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Speaker 3: be here, the Hemny County Prosecutor. But joining us now
Speaker 3: is is Sarah Herringer and she's the widow of Patrick
Speaker 3: who was murdered on her about June the fourth. And Sarah,
Speaker 3: first of all, how you doing.
Speaker 4: I am. I'm highly functional on hanging in there.
Speaker 3: And you have your your bunny with you.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: I've got my therapy dog Ted and he's sleeping right
Speaker 4: now at my feet. So let's go back in time.
Speaker 3: When did you meet Patrick?
Speaker 4: I met Patrick when I first saw him on the streets.
Speaker 4: I met him in Colorado Springs, which is where I'm
Speaker 4: initially from. And he was stationed in the military there,
Speaker 4: and it was about twenty eleven and I saw him,
Speaker 4: and I pointed out to a friend and I said,
Speaker 4: I'm going to marry that man.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, yes, and you were you were how old?
Speaker 3: About twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4: I was about twenty five yep.
Speaker 3: And you saw Patrick and said, yeah, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: What was it about him?
Speaker 6: He?
Speaker 4: I mean, anyone who knew him would say, he just
Speaker 4: has this force that draws you in. He's very stands
Speaker 4: out in a crowd, has a presence about him. And
Speaker 4: I just saw him and it was truly love at
Speaker 4: first sight. And I know that's really cheesy, but it's
Speaker 4: one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it happens.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as his military service, what can you
Speaker 3: tell me about Pat's sacrifice for the nation?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's two Bronze Star award also combat I had.
Speaker 4: You know, he didn't really talk a whole lot about
Speaker 4: all of the accolades and awards that he had because
Speaker 4: he knew that other people's sacrifice was greater than his.
Speaker 4: He was deployed twice. He came home alive, many of
Speaker 4: his friends did not. And in the past week, you know,
Speaker 4: going through this process, I had reached out to one
Speaker 4: of his buddies, and was like, just, you know, out
Speaker 4: of curiosity, what has he been awarded with? And he
Speaker 4: sent me about ten different things that he had and
Speaker 4: was very successful. He was an army captain and really
Speaker 4: loved serving and when it was time to move on,
Speaker 4: he wanted to be a business owner and serve a
Speaker 4: community and just take it from government into private.
Speaker 3: What took you from Colorado Springs to Cincinnati?
Speaker 4: He's a Cincinnati boy and I did not know this,
Speaker 4: but if you're from here, you come back and you
Speaker 4: bring someone with you. That's how people are, like Colorado,
Speaker 4: why are you here? And honestly, I have family from
Speaker 4: the Midwest. They're more so Dayton, Ohio. I had never
Speaker 4: been to Cincinnati, though, and when I first started dating him,
Speaker 4: we came back and I was like, Cincinnati's got some
Speaker 4: things going on. I like that. And when he separated
Speaker 4: from the military, we took a brief stint in New
Speaker 4: York City. He was a consultant for Ernst and Young.
Speaker 4: I was doing a global events coordination for Goldman Sachs.
Speaker 4: I was a project manager back in the day with
Speaker 4: our corporate world, and he really it wasn't fulfilling and
Speaker 4: he wanted to open a business. He wanted to open
Speaker 4: a gym because health and fitness, mental health, physical health
Speaker 4: was very is very important to us, and he knew
Speaker 4: that it was going to be an investment in the
Speaker 4: community and he wanted to do that back at home,
Speaker 4: and so we moved here in the end of twenty
Speaker 4: fourteen and in twenty fifteen we opened up which is
Speaker 4: now Findly Movement and we've had that business for the
Speaker 4: last ten years, just changing lives and giving people a
Speaker 4: place where they can come every single day and whatever
Speaker 4: it is for them work on their health, to have
Speaker 4: a safe space.
Speaker 3: Did OTR except you and Patrick?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely. I mean the community support has been huge
Speaker 4: and we've really we've enjoyed our time being there up
Speaker 4: until till as of late.
Speaker 3: And you knew the neighbors, they knew you, ye place
Speaker 3: to go. You had three or four hundred clients come there.
Speaker 3: And I don't do a lot of it. Maybe I
Speaker 3: should work out, I play golf, but nonetheless, a lot
Speaker 3: of people to Patrick go to gyms and work out.
Speaker 3: And yes, so the goal was to operate a business
Speaker 3: in the community, be part of the community. Yes, to
Speaker 3: be a positive force for good and let's face it,
Speaker 3: a part that needs some help. OTR has got a
Speaker 3: bad repe You may not recall about in the year
Speaker 3: two thousand and two thousand and one, it looked like Beirut.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I set the city on fire, right right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I walked up Vine Street with Charlie Lucan several times.
Speaker 3: It looked like bea route storefronts by building for a dollar.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that community changed because people like you and Patrick.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it was very important to us that we lived
Speaker 4: and worked in the community that we wanted to serve.
Speaker 4: We didn't want to be driving in from someplace else.
Speaker 4: We wanted to really have powerful impact and change in
Speaker 4: the area that we were in.
Speaker 3: At that night, the prosecutors asked you not to talk
Speaker 3: particularly about the circumstances, true, because there may be a
Speaker 3: testimony by you in court and you don't want different
Speaker 3: versions of the same set of facts. I'm sure you
Speaker 3: have locked in your mind what happened, but many school
Speaker 3: things might be remembered differently. But did you know Mordecai Black,
Speaker 3: have any interaction ever see him on the street before,
Speaker 3: any connection with him whatsoever.
Speaker 4: No, not at all, and to my understanding, not Patrick either.
Speaker 4: He was very friendly with everyone, was never you know,
Speaker 4: suspicious or didn't. Was very much so lived in the community.
Speaker 4: We knew people on the street corners, We talked to them,
Speaker 4: knew their names, interacted with them. And that is a
Speaker 4: question that I have been asked, and I nothing out
Speaker 4: of the blue, no connection whatsoever with this man.
Speaker 3: When the event took place. Of course, us on there
Speaker 3: the next day, and there was reports that a white
Speaker 3: woman I assume you was put in handcuffs by the police, Yes,
Speaker 3: And what impact did that have?
Speaker 4: Well, I when I look back now, and you know,
Speaker 4: I do think context is everything, and if the system
Speaker 4: was set up differently, yes, I think victims should probably
Speaker 4: be taken to a psych word in that situation, and
Speaker 4: that's really probably what should have happened to me. I do, though,
Speaker 4: appreciate the policing that happened because Patrick is the victim.
Speaker 4: And when they entered the scene more Kai Black had
Speaker 4: already fled. There was no one there but my sister
Speaker 4: and I, and they immediately were working for Patrick and
Speaker 4: advocating for him, and in my state of shock, was
Speaker 4: not very easy to get along with. I had seen
Speaker 4: too many movies and thought I would be riding with
Speaker 4: him in the ambulance and that was not the case.
Speaker 4: And so in hindsight, you know, no, I obviously it's
Speaker 4: part of that where I wish that had never happened.
Speaker 4: And I don't hold anything against them though, because I
Speaker 4: know that what they were doing was making sure that
Speaker 4: from the very beginning that they were taking this seriously
Speaker 4: and doing their job and doing what they needed to do.
Speaker 3: So do you that this was a real horror movie
Speaker 3: and it was happening to you?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: How long were you in handcuffs.
Speaker 4: For a while? And you know, again they they did
Speaker 4: their due diligence with questioning and I was released later
Speaker 4: that afternoon.
Speaker 3: Uh, and so you were locked up several hours?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 4: Uh, I don't exactly know. You know, I'm not I'm
Speaker 4: not on the inside in that. And I but again
Speaker 4: likely because I was the number one suspect in a
Speaker 4: lot of these situations, you can it's not uncommon to
Speaker 4: have spouse or next of kin be the person who
Speaker 4: has done something like this. And uh, I also, you know,
Speaker 4: refused to speak to them until my lawyer arrived, and
Speaker 4: that that took a little bit.
Speaker 3: And you told me off there. Of course, you can't
Speaker 3: talk about the particulars, but you did you did want
Speaker 3: to say that Patrick uh died defending you.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I was attacked myself and he he protected me,
Speaker 4: and that's that's how he he died. And one of
Speaker 4: the things that really stands out from that night, I
Speaker 4: mean many many details, but the last words that he
Speaker 4: kept saying was stay fighting, stay fighting. The man had
Speaker 4: Mordecai Black had left, and all the way to the
Speaker 4: very last moment, he made sure that I was protected
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 3: Was safe and Patrick died.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: Have you come to grips with that yet?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. It's there are very strange moments
Speaker 4: in the day where nothing, it doesn't feel real again,
Speaker 4: highly functioning and able to do a lot, I feel
Speaker 4: that overnight, you know, my entire world has shattered and
Speaker 4: split and have entirely different priorities and focuses that I
Speaker 4: had before that. I am taking care of myself doing
Speaker 4: everything that you know again me. I'm also a full
Speaker 4: list to health practitioner and health and life coach and
Speaker 4: anything that I advice that I would give anyone in
Speaker 4: this situation on grief and trauma and self regulation and
Speaker 4: how to move through that or all of the steps
Speaker 4: that I'm taking, but no, it's moment by moment and
Speaker 4: day by day because I can't think of six months,
Speaker 4: a year, et cetera down the road without him. That's
Speaker 4: far too overwhelming for me right now.
Speaker 3: And Sarah, you know, Patrick would want you to continue.
Speaker 3: He would want you to live your life, yes, and
Speaker 3: to love and to enjoy your friends and family. He'd
Speaker 3: want you to continue the.
Speaker 4: Business, absolutely, and he made sure of that, you know.
Speaker 4: And that's you know, when I look through all of
Speaker 4: this and there's so many you can kill yourself with
Speaker 4: asking why why this? Why us? Why now? Why him?
Speaker 4: And I don't have those answers, but I know that
Speaker 4: he may sure that I was still here.
Speaker 3: Some have said this is a Kyle Plush moment. That
Speaker 3: was the boy at Seven Hills. It was upside down
Speaker 3: in the backseat of a van and he was calling
Speaker 3: nine to one one and kind of blew off a
Speaker 3: little bit, and then the system changed. What is your
Speaker 3: mission now with the sitting with the state.
Speaker 4: My mission now is to get Cincinnati to a place
Speaker 4: where their residents are safe, because they're not. And that
Speaker 4: is that is an illusion that I was living under.
Speaker 4: And of course when the veil's very thin, and when
Speaker 4: it doesn't affect you, it's pretty easy to fall for
Speaker 4: optics or to take things at face value, or you know,
Speaker 4: even I just felt so safe with him because of
Speaker 4: the type of man of who my husband is. Just
Speaker 4: a very physical specimen. He's very intimidating looking. He's trained
Speaker 4: in hand to hand combat obviously, you know, army military veteran,
Speaker 4: and knowing what I know now, and that is something
Speaker 4: that I absolutely cannot stay silent about. The city needs
Speaker 4: to be cleaned up. There's been ten murders in the
Speaker 4: last fourteen days, and how is anyone safe? How is
Speaker 4: that acceptable? And there is also an underserved population and
Speaker 4: demographic who doesn't have the resources, who doesn't have the community,
Speaker 4: who doesn't have the support. My community is full of
Speaker 4: highly highly skilled individuals that their help is what I
Speaker 4: will need in order to affect change. I can't do
Speaker 4: this alone, and there are so many people who don't
Speaker 4: have access to that, and so I do feel very
Speaker 4: strongly this is our community, this is who we wanted
Speaker 4: to serve. Patrick is a protector and that is what
Speaker 4: I'm on a mission to do. You're leaving, No, I'm
Speaker 4: not leaving I'm staying.
Speaker 3: You met with the mayor, you met with the prosecutor.
Speaker 3: Let's talk first about the mayor. Now, I have a
Speaker 3: social posting you made about the mayor. Have to have
Speaker 3: pure of aal. What did you say to him and
Speaker 3: what did he say to you?
Speaker 4: Very sorry, but I don't think condolences do enough in
Speaker 4: this kind of situation. Anyone else can be sorry, people
Speaker 4: who knew him, people who loved him, people who love us.
Speaker 4: That's an acceptable response, but from the leadership who's been
Speaker 4: elected to protect us and keep us safe, grief and
Speaker 4: the after effect is not okay. And he did not know,
Speaker 4: for instance, that the state was not in communication with
Speaker 4: local law enforcement, and that's your job to know those things.
Speaker 4: So that's, you know, negligence as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 4: You don't get to have an escape when it comes
Speaker 4: to that, or an excuse or an out. And you know,
Speaker 4: he did offer support, saying that he would do anything
Speaker 4: to change legislation, and I hope that that is something
Speaker 4: that we can count on him for, because again, he
Speaker 4: is in a politician in a place of that kind
Speaker 4: of leadership, and I am not and I will need resources. However,
Speaker 4: the actions that he takes moving forward. That is what
Speaker 4: we need to see. Results are going to be the
Speaker 4: thing that speaks right now, not words, and there needs
Speaker 4: to be you know, short of a reckoning, but really
Speaker 4: quite that when it comes to cleaning up the streets
Speaker 4: of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: So Mordecai Black was led out after about ten years.
Speaker 3: I think your lawyer Todd McMurtry who's here, said that
Speaker 3: Mordecai Black was locked up like nineteen in the last
Speaker 3: twenty years, correct, So this was an extremely dangerous person. Yes,
Speaker 3: and the adult parle authority had ordered him wear an
Speaker 3: ankle monitor. He cut it off in February and of
Speaker 3: course nobody knew locally that was going there's no communication
Speaker 3: between the APA No Pearl Authority and local police none.
Speaker 4: Well, the parole authority said, we put a warrant in
Speaker 4: the system, the system, so if he had pulled it up,
Speaker 4: then you would have seen that. And then we find
Speaker 4: out that on May fifteenth he is the suspect. He's
Speaker 4: identified as the person who does a break in and
Speaker 4: attempted robbery and these people knew who he was, to
Speaker 4: my understanding, and again no alarm was sounded, nothing was
Speaker 4: could have then pulled it up and looked. So the
Speaker 4: system is broken, and it's failing on multiple levels. I
Speaker 4: don't think you can just point to one thing, but
Speaker 4: there has to be a total reform from start to
Speaker 4: finish on how these type of things are communicated, who's notified,
Speaker 4: and what actions are taken in order to apprehend someone
Speaker 4: like him.
Speaker 3: The system was noticed in May cut off, something's going
Speaker 3: to go. System was notified burglary. That's the guy who
Speaker 3: did it. They took a report. Police took a report
Speaker 3: and said, okay, yep, that's the guy. No one at
Speaker 3: that point said, is that the guy who cut off
Speaker 3: his bracelet? No connection was made there. So this is
Speaker 3: a guy that's a career criminal who's going to kill somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe he has already. Other than Patrick, We're not sure.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. And the whole system said, well,
Speaker 3: we're not going to bother with it until something like
Speaker 3: this happens. Correct and so and then you also had
Speaker 3: comments about your meeting with the prosecutor Connie Pilich. He's
Speaker 3: going to be here in about forty five minutes, and
Speaker 3: how did that go.
Speaker 4: They they're very supportive. They you know, they want to
Speaker 4: see justice done, and the team that is on this
Speaker 4: is exceptional. I do have concerns about the kind of
Speaker 4: message they're signaling with sentencing. Though this man expects life
Speaker 4: in prison. He's been he's spent his life in prison,
Speaker 4: and every single time he's gotten out, he has immediately
Speaker 4: gone and done something more and more aggressive. He's always
Speaker 4: escalated every time he's been released. And for one, you're
Speaker 4: not sending a message to violent criminals when you feed them,
Speaker 4: house them, give them a TV, a peer support group,
Speaker 4: a gym for the rest of their life. When they
Speaker 4: expect that that's their life, that's all they know. There
Speaker 4: has to be an accountability and something that is far
Speaker 4: more severe in order to start deterring these people. And
Speaker 4: so many people who you know, they yes, we want
Speaker 4: to see communities rehabilitated. However, most of us can't even
Speaker 4: imagine thinking the way these kind of people think, and
Speaker 4: so it sounds like a vengeance move or something that's
Speaker 4: highly aggressive or or coming from a place of my
Speaker 4: anger and grief. But really what it is is it's
Speaker 4: sending a message to people who think, like Mordecai Black,
Speaker 4: you probably shouldn't be doing that because there's going to
Speaker 4: be a true consequence for if you do and when
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 3: In this case, the prosecutors not seeking the death penalty.
Speaker 3: In another case, with Rodney Hinton, who's purposely killed Larry Henderson,
Speaker 3: the police officer, she is seeking the death penalty. Have
Speaker 3: you communicated with her your displeasure with that idea? Yes,
Speaker 3: is the reaction.
Speaker 4: I there hasn't really been much of a statement. One
Speaker 4: of the things that we have heard from the office,
Speaker 4: not necessarily Connie herself, is that when you seek the
Speaker 4: death penalty, there are a lot of processes of appeals
Speaker 4: and it could be a you know, an average and
Speaker 4: this is again something I learned when you're looking at
Speaker 4: a murder trial, those can take on average two years,
Speaker 4: maybe even more. In the thought of well through the
Speaker 4: appeal process, it could take fifteen years or so. And
Speaker 4: for me it's like, well, nothing is going to bring
Speaker 4: Patrick's life back, nothing is going to fix that, nothing
Speaker 4: is going to rectify that. However, if he is in
Speaker 4: this process knowing at the end of it because he
Speaker 4: will be found guilty, I do know that the prosecutors
Speaker 4: are exceptional. Who is on this case at least deaders
Speaker 4: is incredible and it's worth that to me in order
Speaker 4: to have the kind of change, because we can't fix anything.
Speaker 4: The only thing that we can do moving forward is
Speaker 4: how do we change how do we make sure this
Speaker 4: doesn't happen to someone else.
Speaker 3: As far as the so called politics of the small
Speaker 3: p you had a posting about the mayor showing up
Speaker 3: at a particular kind of a rally, but not on
Speaker 3: behalf of many of the victims. Every time I hear
Speaker 3: something from a politician, it's like crimes down, crimes down,
Speaker 3: Pat myself on the back. Life is good. That's not
Speaker 3: the case.
Speaker 4: No, And I, a independent data analyst, has looked over
Speaker 4: all of the public information and was the one who
Speaker 4: sent those graphs out and crime is up, it is
Speaker 4: not down. And so when you have and that's the
Speaker 4: thing that I even said, like anyone who's taken a
Speaker 4: statistics class, so you always know, you beat the numbers
Speaker 4: to death till you get the story that you want.
Speaker 4: That's what they're good at doing, and that needs to
Speaker 4: be exposed. People need to know what kind of people
Speaker 4: are currently in office and what they're willing to do,
Speaker 4: and they're willing to risk your life in order to
Speaker 4: have optics.
Speaker 3: Yes, there was video of Black walking around before the
Speaker 3: murder with a knife in his hands, up and down OTR.
Speaker 3: I would assume looking for a victim, and you just
Speaker 3: your family just happened to be in his way. I mean,
Speaker 3: to have one police officer on duty at three o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning between the Ohio River and North Otr.
Speaker 3: It's kind of ridiculous, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It's absolutely ridiculous. And you know the chief of police
Speaker 4: said when we met with her, Terry and Aftab at
Speaker 4: the same time, the mayor at the same time. She
Speaker 4: said she went off of data, and that's what they
Speaker 4: pride themselves on. Data shows that it's enough. And I
Speaker 4: would have to say, why don't you look at just
Speaker 4: the blood bath that's happened in your city in the
Speaker 4: last two weeks, and you tell me that your data
Speaker 4: tells you that this city is safe enough. Criminals do
Speaker 4: not fear the current police force that are out on
Speaker 4: the streets. They're there's no deterrent whatsoever. And that is
Speaker 4: not more brutally obvious to anyone other than me. Right now,
Speaker 4: I would say.
Speaker 3: Can you hang around for a couple of minutes?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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Speaker 3: In the studio with me. Now is the widow of
Speaker 3: Patrick Herringer, which is Sarah. I never thought you'd ever
Speaker 3: hear the word widow, would you?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 4: It's a title I'm still getting used to.
Speaker 3: How does it hit you?
Speaker 4: Ah hard? I would rather it be wife.
Speaker 3: As far as the future, we talked a little bit
Speaker 3: off the air and your lawyers here about what they
Speaker 3: can do, and that's uncertain in the future. But as
Speaker 3: far as the police, I have a note here TECH
Speaker 3: sent to me from an officer who said, how many
Speaker 3: officers are on duty? How many on that day? The
Speaker 3: answer is, I think one or less. And at one
Speaker 3: point is your goal to have one thing happening in
Speaker 3: the city. Now is that they're offering these opportunities for
Speaker 3: suburban cops anywhere in Ohio who come to Cincinnati, and
Speaker 3: it won't take a year, year and a half. It's
Speaker 3: going to take six months. They also have another class
Speaker 3: going through that may take a year, year and a half.
Speaker 3: Could that be a positive situation to have a lot
Speaker 3: more police a lot more absolutely?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lateral class of having officers come in who
Speaker 4: are just relocating to Cincinnati, you do. You need a
Speaker 4: much stronger police presence. And I think in addition to that,
Speaker 4: they should be proactively going out and who has current
Speaker 4: arrest warrants that are out there, that are just out
Speaker 4: on the streets. That's another thing that they could also
Speaker 4: be proactively doing. But yeah, I would love to see
Speaker 4: more police presence. And that's another entire group of people
Speaker 4: to consider as well. How is it safe for them?
Speaker 4: How right? And if you are that officer, how confident
Speaker 4: do you feel in apprehending or going out and looking
Speaker 4: for suspects or even patrolling when you know that you're
Speaker 4: minutes away from backup in anyone coming to your aid
Speaker 4: as well, they're at risk.
Speaker 3: Veterans have told me in the ten twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: they had a Lineup's okay, if not much going on,
Speaker 3: take a handful of Warrens. We're looking for these six guys.
Speaker 3: If you have extra time, go find these guys that
Speaker 3: doesn't happen anymore. In fact, there's speed bumps on Madison Road.
Speaker 3: You used to have law enforcement with speed. Now they
Speaker 3: don't do that. They want a passive stand down, don't
Speaker 3: cause problems police as opposed to being active to go
Speaker 3: unfind people. And perfect example is Mordecai Black. You should
Speaker 3: have been located and there was no no one looking
Speaker 3: for him, even after you're identified in a burglary a
Speaker 3: few weeks before as the definite person, nobody went to
Speaker 3: see them. Is that police problem or is that a
Speaker 3: politician problem?
Speaker 4: I think that's a politician problem. I think you know,
Speaker 4: the police, they need to feel supported in order to
Speaker 4: do their jobs. And I met with the police union
Speaker 4: last week and they don't feel that. They are afraid
Speaker 4: of being used for a pawn in political gain. And
Speaker 4: optics is even down to having armored vehicles because they
Speaker 4: think that the citizens of Cincinnati are too fragile to
Speaker 4: handle a quote unquote militant optics when it comes from police.
Speaker 4: But the best kind of policing is proactive. If you
Speaker 4: can have a presence and you are out there serving
Speaker 4: the community, which is that's what they are, they're public servants,
Speaker 4: then you have people who are second guessing what kind
Speaker 4: of actions do I take? You're not really what is
Speaker 4: it to have someone if you're really good at cleaning
Speaker 4: up messes? You know, if we can prevent those things
Speaker 4: with more of a presence, I think that is the
Speaker 4: benefit will serve Cincinnati and the citizens of it nicely.
Speaker 3: That is the sense now in Cincinnati. And we talked
Speaker 3: to cops Kenkover, Dan Hill's men and the men and
Speaker 3: women in blue. They're going to tell you, look, we're
Speaker 3: not going to put ourselves at risk because we're not
Speaker 3: going to be backed up. We're going to be sued.
Speaker 3: Qualified immunity may be taken away soon by the state
Speaker 3: of Ohio, which means if you're a cop, unless you
Speaker 3: intentionally commit an act. How many negligent act acts to
Speaker 3: it does a cop commit? I'd say all the time.
Speaker 3: Cops make mistakes. So if you're sued constantly for a
Speaker 3: negligent act, that means you're not going to be proactive.
Speaker 3: And they need one hundred and fifty more cops and
Speaker 3: need it now and need a mentality that we're going
Speaker 3: to be We're going to be aggressive to the few
Speaker 3: number of people committing disproportion crimes in this city.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and that I think that is it. You know,
Speaker 4: they have ninety police retiring every year. When you have
Speaker 4: a class a full class at sixty. They haven't had that,
Speaker 4: and so we do need a stronger police presence and
Speaker 4: force for sure.
Speaker 3: All right, Todd mc mcmurtryes here. So the attorney, well,
Speaker 3: what are you looking at in the future because it's
Speaker 3: very early, it's only been about twelve days since this occurred.
Speaker 3: But as an attorney, a great note to what are
Speaker 3: you who you're looking at in a civil sense of anyone? Well, Bill,
Speaker 3: as you.
Speaker 8: Know, suing a city of Cincinnati or suing the Department
Speaker 8: of Corrections for their mistakes, which are you know, many
Speaker 8: is a challenge. We've been focused, you know, here in
Speaker 8: the early stages and working with the least leaders and
Speaker 8: Chris Slips and the Prosecutor's office to get them everything
Speaker 8: that they need. So now I'll turn my attention to
Speaker 8: what the civil liability might be. But you know, we're
Speaker 8: going to turn over the stones and find out what
Speaker 8: we can to look for any parties that are responsible
Speaker 8: for this. Because I knew Patrick, I've known Sarah, my wife,
Speaker 8: and I are good friends.
Speaker 3: With him.
Speaker 8: He was a wonderful person and he really deserves all
Speaker 8: the justice he can get, be it civil or criminal.
Speaker 3: That's down the road. You don't know. That'll take anywhere
Speaker 3: from three to five years from this point.
Speaker 8: Well, I think it's going to take me, you know,
Speaker 8: a couple of months to do the research and get
Speaker 8: all the data together to see if there is any
Speaker 8: avenue for civil liability.
Speaker 3: You know, can they be soon? You know?
Speaker 8: Is it a court of claims case? Is it a
Speaker 8: case that's brought in the common pleas? You know, those
Speaker 8: are the things I've got to kind of piece through.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're committed to all your cases, but this
Speaker 3: one to you a special it is.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's very personal that they're friends of ours.
Speaker 8: You know, I played golf with Patrick. The guy could
Speaker 8: drive a ball three hundred yards. It was insane.
Speaker 3: It was a flat belly. Yeah, flat belly's gonna hit
Speaker 3: the ball. Yeah. He was a bad fellow there with
Speaker 3: a golf stick.
Speaker 8: So yeah, personal friends, and we've my wife and Iron
Speaker 8: invested in this whole thing very personally.
Speaker 3: Well, you in court this morning, Sarah, when Mordecai black
Speaker 3: Spawn was increased by Judge Winkler.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I wasn't the only one there. I had
Speaker 4: about fifty to sixty of our community members were also
Speaker 4: there this standing room, only they were not all of
Speaker 4: us fit inside of the courtroom. And that really when
Speaker 4: we are looking at moving forward and what it's going
Speaker 4: to to take, having that community from Finley Movement, but
Speaker 4: also just the city itself showing up and supporting in
Speaker 4: this cause because it's for them.
Speaker 3: You know, you know what the politicians are after, which
Speaker 3: is kind of you to go away?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, quiet down, Yes, know your role, shut your mouth. Yes,
Speaker 3: we're going to run for reelection. Happy days, you're here again.
Speaker 3: Look at all the good stuff we've done. How would
Speaker 3: you respond to that?
Speaker 4: Well, I have nothing to lose anymore. The worst thing
Speaker 4: that I could ever imagine for my life has already happened.
Speaker 4: And one of those things is a very odd sensation
Speaker 4: on the backside of it is I'm not afraid anymore,
Speaker 4: and they can't take anything from me, and I don't
Speaker 4: want anything other than justice and for whatever kind of
Speaker 4: reform that needs to happen to make sure this doesn't
Speaker 4: happen again.
Speaker 3: Are you satisfied with the one action take and the
Speaker 3: adult Pearl authority is now going to notify the last
Speaker 3: known address. Of course, many of these individuals locked up
Speaker 3: for ten years, they don't have a home address. I
Speaker 3: don't know what to do, but in this case, certainly
Speaker 3: after the burglary, there should have been red sirens going off.
Speaker 3: This is the guy that cut it off, cut off
Speaker 3: his bracelet. He's been out nineteen years of his life
Speaker 3: has been in prison. Hey doesn't care, and he's walking
Speaker 3: around OTR with a butcher knife. We're going to go
Speaker 3: find this guy. And what do the cops tell you,
Speaker 3: Like Ken Kober when you say, why weren't you looking
Speaker 3: for him?
Speaker 4: It truly is. They are not bodies that communicate. And
Speaker 4: so the first thing is being able to get the
Speaker 4: state level, the parole board speaking with local authorities. To me,
Speaker 4: that is a huge I mean, the citizens of Cincinnati
Speaker 4: are exposed by that law first and foremost. That needs
Speaker 4: to be taken care of. When someone who's a violent
Speaker 4: ultra violent criminal has gone a wall, local law enforcement
Speaker 4: needs to know about that. They need to be notified.
Speaker 4: Others then there if you happen to find the slip
Speaker 4: of paper in the system, then you're notified. They need
Speaker 4: to be directly contacted and also have the resources to
Speaker 4: go and apprehend someone like.
Speaker 3: That, and they don't have. The cops will tell you
Speaker 3: they do not feel they have backup, whether it's city
Speaker 3: hall or fellow men and women in blue, they don't
Speaker 3: have backup, correct And they told you that, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: Why don't they have backup? Why? What's the reason?
Speaker 4: Well, anymore, policing is not the honorable career that it
Speaker 4: used to be, and they are not even supported by
Speaker 4: the community they serve as much anymore. And you know
Speaker 4: you that is where you slip into some political sides.
Speaker 4: I think a little bit more, but I don't think
Speaker 4: public safety should ever be a come down to a
Speaker 4: Democrat Republican. We need police and any type of problem
Speaker 4: that you have when it discusses, you know, safe policing,
Speaker 4: it's better to be talking about those problems then obviously
Speaker 4: the issues that a community is going to have without police,
Speaker 4: And so the cops need to be the police need
Speaker 4: to be supported, they need to have funds, they need
Speaker 4: to have bodies, they need to have people in leadership
Speaker 4: within the police themselves who are also not controlled by politicians,
Speaker 4: who are supporting the people. And of course you want
Speaker 4: to take every type of action they have. You want
Speaker 4: to make sure that they are doing it well. But
Speaker 4: that happens most of the time. They're not really in
Speaker 4: a place though. To my understanding, what I have been
Speaker 4: told is that they do not feel supported to take
Speaker 4: proactive measures. And that's also something that really needs to change.
Speaker 3: And I think the decision by Connie Pilate not to
Speaker 3: indict that police officer was a positive. And there was
Speaker 3: two seconds that transpired from the time the officer said
Speaker 3: he's got a gun, gun, gun, until the officer had
Speaker 3: to decide to shoot and not shoot. He had a gun,
Speaker 3: he did have a gun. It takes split second to
Speaker 3: go this way. And if that had gone the other way.
Speaker 3: If you listen to the finand Wruckers or the civil
Speaker 3: attorneys of this world saying you want to grand jury
Speaker 3: indict the police, what would that do to law enforcement?
Speaker 3: If comps are indicted in that case? Exactly, They're going
Speaker 3: to say it more. I'm not doing this anymore. I'm done, right.
Speaker 3: They're people and their husbands and mothers and fathers.
Speaker 4: They want to go home, yes, yes, and they again
Speaker 4: they need to be safe. These are real humans and
Speaker 4: they they're people, yes, their keep people, yes, and they've
Speaker 4: signed up to service and they put their life on
Speaker 4: the line because they are the ones who are there
Speaker 4: to uh be able to apprehend criminals and people who
Speaker 4: want to who live to enact violence on the community.
Speaker 4: And those are things that you know, you and I
Speaker 4: don't have that mindset. We don't have that. We can't
Speaker 4: get into the mind of Mordecai Black or people like that.
Speaker 4: But those people do exist and that is the reality.
Speaker 4: So to pretend like it's not and to also be
Speaker 4: have a current judicial system that is leaning more towards
Speaker 4: the criminals and taking and empathizing more with them versus
Speaker 4: the people who they are elected by to protect is
Speaker 4: something that needs to be revealed and exposed.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: A shot spotter says there's about twenty thousand shots fired
Speaker 3: in the city of Cincinnati this year. Imagine twenty thousand
Speaker 3: bullets flying around the city.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to go somewhere, they got to go.
Speaker 3: And they only hit about five hundred people, which is amazing,
Speaker 3: But that's a problem. There's twenty thousand shots fired and
Speaker 3: we're talking about seven or eight zip codes, not talking
Speaker 3: of Salor Park out to Mount Washington. We're talking about
Speaker 3: the city corps is twenty thousand shots fired. Those who
Speaker 3: lived there understand.
Speaker 4: That, yes, absolutely, that was even something a concern that
Speaker 4: we had had. We had noticed an uptick in shots
Speaker 4: and had even had a couple of incidences where the
Speaker 4: police were called for like a breaking and entering or
Speaker 4: not not a home but a robbery of someone who
Speaker 4: is working on our house in their car. And so
Speaker 4: it's you know, the people who live down there again,
Speaker 4: their voices are not being heard. They're also fed up.
Speaker 4: They don't want to live in that They want to
Speaker 4: be able to live in a safe community. They are
Speaker 4: business owners, They're people who are dedicated to the city
Speaker 4: of Cincinnati, and the leadership of this city needs to
Speaker 4: do right by them, and they need to do better.
Speaker 3: I'm sure Sarah, her husband looking from down to you,
Speaker 3: would be very proud of you right now. He'd be Patrick,
Speaker 3: It would be so proud.
Speaker 4: Channeling him every step of the way.
Speaker 3: I thank you for coming in. Coming up in about
Speaker 3: ten or fifteen minutes is Connie Pillach, and I will
Speaker 3: ask her about My first question will be relative to
Speaker 3: the death penalty in one case and not the other,
Speaker 3: plus other matters. But Sarah, congratulations on the life you're
Speaker 3: now leading.
Speaker 4: Good luck to you, Thank you, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: By Billy Cunningham. The great American joining us now is
Speaker 3: Connie Pelich, the Helmby County Prosecutor and Connie Pellach. Welcome
Speaker 3: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And before we talk
Speaker 3: about Hinton, which you know is another big story. In
Speaker 3: my interview with Sarah, we talked. She talked about how
Speaker 3: one murder case is treated differently than the other, how
Speaker 3: her husband's murder Patrick was treated differently than than the
Speaker 3: murder of a police officer. Can you articulate as to
Speaker 3: why your office calls the death penalty to be issued
Speaker 3: in one case and not the other.
Speaker 6: Well, thanks so much for having me again, Bill, I
Speaker 6: really appreciate you including me and letting me talk about
Speaker 6: the stuff that's going on in our office. I think
Speaker 6: I put all the information about the reason for the
Speaker 6: death penalty and the deputy who was slain case, and
Speaker 6: there's of course very specific provisions of law that allow
Speaker 6: for that. But for the for miss henting, Miss Henninger's
Speaker 6: call a case of her husband, I just got to
Speaker 6: left that play out in the courts, all.
Speaker 3: Right, as far as as far as that is it
Speaker 3: a policy decision or This is something I've read some
Speaker 3: common during social media that many times the system values
Speaker 3: the life of a police officer as we should above
Speaker 3: the life of may I use the term civilian, And
Speaker 3: when a police officer is murdered, you're murdering not just
Speaker 3: a person but the representative of us and that's a
Speaker 3: very serious matter. Did that play into it that some
Speaker 3: social media might say, you know, she'll go after a
Speaker 3: cop killer more than she'll go after just a murder.
Speaker 3: Is that part of it?
Speaker 6: No, No, there's no policy like that. These are done
Speaker 6: by a case by case basis and also in accordance
Speaker 6: with the law and what the law allows or requires
Speaker 6: me to do.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's move on to the Hinting matter. You had
Speaker 3: an extensive news conference yesterday and as far as Rodney
Speaker 3: Hinton Junior and of course his murder, and then also
Speaker 3: you had the non indictment of the police officer who
Speaker 3: killed Ryan Hinton. What were the two or three key
Speaker 3: facts in your mind, Connie Pillage is about why you
Speaker 3: did not indict the police officer. Can you tell the
Speaker 3: American people three good reasons you decided not to do it?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? And you know, and of course it was a
Speaker 6: very extensive press conference yesterday. But look, we looked at,
Speaker 6: first of all, what the law requires, and the United
Speaker 6: States Supreme Courts gives us very specific guidance that have
Speaker 6: been refined over the last bunch of decades how we
Speaker 6: make these decisions. And one of the big things was
Speaker 6: that we have to review this evidence in the eyes
Speaker 6: of what one would call a reasonable officer at the scene,
Speaker 6: in his shoes, through his eyes, and with the knowledge
Speaker 6: that would have been known at the time. The second
Speaker 6: thing is when we looked through the body camped footage,
Speaker 6: we saw the scene, we saw the things that transpired.
Speaker 6: We heard one the officers alert everybody there that there
Speaker 6: was a gun. And the third thing were the statements
Speaker 6: of the witnesses. The Cincinnati Police interviewed the witnesses that
Speaker 6: were there, and they interviewed some of the passengers of
Speaker 6: the vehicle. They were also witnesses too. So those are
Speaker 6: three things combined that led me to make that decision.
Speaker 3: Connie Pellach, prosecutor, you made the statement yesterday that the
Speaker 3: officer officer A, and it's going to be said his
Speaker 3: name's going to be revealed soon by civil lawsuits by
Speaker 3: Fanon Rucker, But nonetheless I'll call him officer A perceived
Speaker 3: the gun was pointed at him when he fired the shots.
Speaker 3: The video, I think is unclear one way or another.
Speaker 3: I've watched it probably ten times. You probably have watched
Speaker 3: it one hundred times. Do you clearly see the gun
Speaker 3: of Ryan Hinton pointed out the police officer.
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing we have to look at is
Speaker 6: what the law requires me to study, and that is
Speaker 6: that we have to put our review into the position
Speaker 6: of a reasonable officer at the scene and standing in
Speaker 6: the officer's shoes, running around the side of that dumpster
Speaker 6: which is five feet wide, and seeing the young man
Speaker 6: running at him. The officer stated that he saw the
Speaker 6: weapon and he had about a half a second to
Speaker 6: make a decision. He was he believed it was the
Speaker 6: officer a believed the gun was in Rodney Hinton's hand
Speaker 6: and that it was pointing at him in what we
Speaker 6: call a bladed stance, and that was certainly he was
Speaker 6: put on the alert by one of the other officers
Speaker 6: who yelled, hey, this guy's got a gun. He's got
Speaker 6: a gun. And we also had that corroborated by one
Speaker 6: of the witnesses in the vehicle. And so when you
Speaker 6: have these kinds of events within literally four seconds, you
Speaker 6: can look at a body worn camera that has a
Speaker 6: wide angle lens and therefore distorts the spatial details of
Speaker 6: the scene. But you also have to understand there's more
Speaker 6: than body worn camera. There's there's what the officer believes
Speaker 6: he saw what the other officer yelled about there being
Speaker 6: a gun. When these all things have to be taken
Speaker 6: in total. You can't just look at one simple thing,
Speaker 6: and that's what the Supreme Court tells us. You cannot
Speaker 6: look at one item. You've got to look at all
Speaker 6: the circumstances.
Speaker 3: And in the officer's mind, he believed, having heard he's
Speaker 3: got a gun. Gun, gun, gun, and he did not
Speaker 3: pull out his service weapon until after a fellow officer
Speaker 3: said he had a gun. Is that correct?
Speaker 6: Oh, yes, that's correct, and we have we have video
Speaker 6: evidence of that.
Speaker 3: As far as the actual shots themselves, I had on
Speaker 3: Michael Wright, who's with the Cochrane Law firm. He's a lawyer,
Speaker 3: along with an On Rucker. Each of them have said
Speaker 3: that some young man, a teenager, should not be shot
Speaker 3: for stealing a car. And I'm thinking, well, that's a
Speaker 3: nice argument in a closing statement, but that's not factually accurate.
Speaker 3: But how would you respond to some who say, like
Speaker 3: an On Rucker and Michael Wright, that this particular of
Speaker 3: Ryan Hinton was killed because he was stealing a car?
Speaker 3: Is that factually accurate?
Speaker 6: Well, that's no, it's not. But the whole situation's tragic. Bill.
Speaker 6: You know that some kid going down this path and
Speaker 6: getting having a gun and it's all as the police
Speaker 6: chief said, when you mess around with stolen guns, a
Speaker 6: tragedy happens, and that's what happened here.
Speaker 3: How relevant were the photos? I thought the photos you
Speaker 3: displayed yesterday were just It doesn't mean he's guilty or
Speaker 3: not guilty, but to have at that point, I think
Speaker 3: he was seventeen years old. He turned eighteen a few
Speaker 3: days before he was killed, that he had in possession
Speaker 3: the actual gun found at the scene. Isn't that a
Speaker 3: rather important fact that we knew he had possession of
Speaker 3: the gun, He had possession of the gun a few
Speaker 3: days before, and the same gun was found at the scene.
Speaker 6: Well, we did include that in the press conference, just
Speaker 6: to show that this was his gun, because that's what
Speaker 6: we found at the scene.
Speaker 3: One other question has arisen from the other side, and
Speaker 3: that is the day after the shooting, Chief of Police
Speaker 3: Teresa Thiji, held a news conference and said that in
Speaker 3: this case, the officer shot mister Hinton Ryan Hinton in
Speaker 3: the chest and the bullet came out the back as
Speaker 3: if they were facing each other. Number One did you
Speaker 3: hear what she said at the news conference? And number
Speaker 3: two is that factually inaccurate.
Speaker 6: I wasn't at the news conference, but I am aware
Speaker 6: of the coroner's report that showed the bullet entered in
Speaker 6: the side of the left side of his chest and
Speaker 6: exited the front of the chest. That's right, that's what
Speaker 6: we have. Those are the facts we rely on in
Speaker 6: this review.
Speaker 3: Have you discussed this to the chief of Police state
Speaker 3: you to say, hey, wait a minute, twenty four hours
Speaker 3: after this event kind of quiet things down, do we
Speaker 3: know what the facts are? Have you said that to her?
Speaker 6: No? No, But I do think she's bound by the
Speaker 6: collaborative agreement to have some sort of press conference within
Speaker 6: around twenty four hours of any critical incident like that.
Speaker 6: And I mean the chief is, as far as I
Speaker 6: can tell, is trying to do the best you can.
Speaker 6: And I can't tell her what to say, not her lawyer.
Speaker 3: Yeah. As far as the other three individuals involved in
Speaker 3: this action, who as Jarell Austin and Anthony Bullocks and
Speaker 3: sincere Gregsby, did you give consideration to the activities that
Speaker 3: they engaged in, and that by that, I mean, did
Speaker 3: they kind of identify the gun as being used by
Speaker 3: Ryan Hinton in the car. Did they say that was
Speaker 3: Ryan Hinton's gun or is that someone else's gun?
Speaker 6: I can't tell you what witness said that, but somebody
Speaker 6: did see did describe Ryan's gun to us.
Speaker 3: As far as the grand jury presentation, as you know
Speaker 3: that you don't have to present the case to the
Speaker 3: grand jury. In fact, you can not present it. There's
Speaker 3: one prosecutor locally in Butler County, Mike Moser, who does
Speaker 3: present every police shooting to a grand jury. Other prosecutors
Speaker 3: in Claremont, Warren, and I know in Boone, Kenton, and
Speaker 3: Campbell they do not present the case. Well, what is
Speaker 3: the fact that determines whether or not County Pillage will
Speaker 3: present or not present a police shooting to the grand
Speaker 3: jury in Hamley County.
Speaker 6: Well after after our review, if I can't make a
Speaker 6: determined determination, then I will have to present it to
Speaker 6: grand jury. But in the four police involved shootings that
Speaker 6: we've had since I became prosecutor on January sixth, I
Speaker 6: was able to determine. I felt comfortable that I was
Speaker 6: doing the right thing in accordance with the laws, and
Speaker 6: was able to make a decision.
Speaker 3: You're not required by law to give it to the
Speaker 3: grand jury. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 6: That's fair to say.
Speaker 3: There was also an interview conducted in which Fannon Rucker
Speaker 3: said that, among other things, we don't know the officer's
Speaker 3: background who killed Ryan Hinton. We know his jacket with
Speaker 3: a citizens complain authority with internal investigations is not empty,
Speaker 3: so he's kind of besmirching the character of officer. A.
Speaker 3: Did you take into account the history of the police
Speaker 3: officer when you decided not to cause his indictment.
Speaker 6: No, I didn't think any of that was reround events.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: As far as uh further investigation is this Uh, the
Speaker 3: matter is taken six weeks to get to get to
Speaker 3: this point. As far as you're concern, is this matter
Speaker 3: concluded relative to these officers? No other charges will be
Speaker 3: fought against any officers involved in this shooting of Ryan Hinton?
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: All right? Uh? Well, thank you.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: And one thing that's gonna happen is I think sometimes
Speaker 3: the federal authorities may get involved in some of these
Speaker 3: police shootings. It's quite unlikely in this case for all
Speaker 3: kinds of reasons. But so far you've had four police shootings,
Speaker 3: which is quite unusual and in your first five months
Speaker 3: in office. Uh, that's part of this part of the deal.
Speaker 3: Is there any connection? I watched the news conference. One
Speaker 3: of the reporters asked, you, are these four events somehow
Speaker 3: connected one to the other, which I thought was kind
Speaker 3: of a stupid question, by the way, because they're completely unconnected.
Speaker 3: But Uh, if the message is sent by some that
Speaker 3: this prosecute is gonna lean on the side of police
Speaker 3: when it comes to police shootings, I think that's incorrect.
Speaker 3: Every case stands on his own completely. I mean, every
Speaker 3: every factual situation is completely different. But for those who say,
Speaker 3: our new new prosecutors got four of these, everyone's been absolved,
Speaker 3: nuns percented to the grand jury, what's your response to that?
Speaker 6: Well, look, I take these cases extremely seriously. Of the
Speaker 6: four officer involved shootings we've had, I personally responded to
Speaker 6: three of them and was able to look at the
Speaker 6: scene myself, And they're all different. They were caused by
Speaker 6: different people and under different circumstances, and I think my
Speaker 6: job is to look at what happened, apply the law,
Speaker 6: as the State of Ohio and the United States and
Speaker 6: the Supreme Court telled me to do, and that's what happened.
Speaker 6: I can't tell you what will happen the next time
Speaker 6: we have a critical incident like that, because I don't
Speaker 6: know the fact of that yet.
Speaker 3: No, every case is determined by facts, application of the law,
Speaker 3: and none of the cases are connected to each other.
Speaker 3: In fact, they're completely unconnected. Did you consult with other
Speaker 3: prosecutors in the region about whether to proceed to indictment
Speaker 3: or not? Or was this strictly your decision? Did you
Speaker 3: talk with with any of the other prosecutors in the county?
Speaker 3: Are well?
Speaker 6: I am. I am a member of the Ohio Prosecuting
Speaker 6: Attorneys Association, and all the members these are all the
Speaker 6: elected prosecutors in the state. I've served on four committees,
Speaker 6: so I have definitely been getting to know my colleagues
Speaker 6: across the state and learn the things that they've gone through.
Speaker 6: But what was most important to me here was my
Speaker 6: senior leadership team, who worked very closely. They worked really
Speaker 6: hard to put that put that presentation together. I when
Speaker 6: you saw all these photos, well those were one one
Speaker 6: hundredth of a second stops still shots of the video.
Speaker 6: It worked very hard to put that together for me
Speaker 6: so I could explain everything, and so we could make
Speaker 6: a determination here. I based my decision on the scrutiny
Speaker 6: they gave and their recommendation to me, then my own
Speaker 6: review of what they presented to me.
Speaker 3: And a prosecutor, as you know, must only present cases
Speaker 3: of the grand jury if they believe a crime has
Speaker 3: been committed and they can get a conviction a trial.
Speaker 3: And I assume the fact you did not convene a
Speaker 3: grand jury to present the case, any case that based
Speaker 3: upon six weeks of hundreds of hours of work, split
Speaker 3: second videos down to pictures, forensic evidence. I think the
Speaker 3: County Corner has given you all the toxicology or whatever
Speaker 3: that By the way, did the toxicology show anything that
Speaker 3: Ryan hitting anything in his body or not?
Speaker 6: You know, Bill, I don't remember, but it wouldn't make
Speaker 6: a difference in this case.
Speaker 3: It could have been high as a kite. It's not
Speaker 3: relevant to him being shot. All right, Well, thank you,
Speaker 3: Connie Pillage. Once again, see what happens on the next
Speaker 3: Well I've had you on each time he's been a
Speaker 3: police shooting. I kind of hope there's no more police shootings.
Speaker 3: I kind of hope they're in but you never know.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you so much for getting with me.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you happing me on.
Speaker 3: Connie Pillage, thank you very much. Thank you. All right,
Speaker 3: let's continue with more. There's the perspective of County Pillage,
Speaker 3: and I want to support her decision in this case
Speaker 3: one thousand percent because I understand there's money to be
Speaker 3: made by some lawyers who are acting as if they're
Speaker 3: aggrieved and they're going to go to the city of
Speaker 3: Cincinnati to seek money. And I'm referring specifically to Fanon
Speaker 3: Rucker and Michael Wright of the Cochran Law firm, and
Speaker 3: who knows what the city's going to do down the road.
Speaker 3: If in this case the city pays money, it's a
Speaker 3: slap in the face of the police force because in
Speaker 3: this case, if this is not a justified shooting, then
Speaker 3: there can be none in Hambleton County. And I want
Speaker 3: to compliment Connie Pillage in this case and the other
Speaker 3: three for making the right decisions. So let's continue with more.
Speaker 3: And whether they can get money out of the city,
Speaker 3: that's likely. I'm willing to bet you hot fut Sunday
Speaker 3: right now than the next one to three years they
Speaker 3: pay the estate of Ryan Hitting some money. That's what
Speaker 3: the city tends to do. But in this case it
Speaker 3: was completely a justified police shooting. Let's continue with more
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Speaker 2: You believe that you ask to meeting closer to striking
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Speaker 3: You can say that right? You don't seriously think I'm
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Speaker 12: Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
Speaker 3: And what time exactly, Sarah, sir.
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Speaker 12: we can be there and watch. I mean, you don't
Speaker 12: know that I'm going to even do it. You don't know.
Speaker 3: I may do it, I may not do it. I mean,
Speaker 3: nobody knows what I'm going to do.
Speaker 5: I can tell you this that.
Speaker 12: A Ram's got a lot of trouble and they want
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Speaker 3: What int you nego?
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Speaker 3: Hurlinger is there for you to watch and listen to.
Speaker 3: And it's heart rendering to listen to a widow. Never
Speaker 3: thought a woman, a young attractive woman like that would
Speaker 3: be called a widow? Correct, because of the failure of
Speaker 3: the system for Mordecai Black And she said it, Well,
Speaker 3: the cops in this town, in fact, the cops almost
Speaker 3: everywhere except Butler County, in Boone County and Warren County
Speaker 3: are incentivized not to be police. They don't want them
Speaker 3: to be proactive police, pulling up warrants and they're arresting people.
Speaker 3: They don't want that. I don't know how the citizens
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati, gonn elect the same council every two years,
Speaker 3: anticipating a different result. It's unbelievable, Andy Mack, please continue.
Speaker 3: Who's on council? I don't know. I know Mayor Parabal,
Speaker 3: Scottie Johnson. That's about the only one I know. He
Speaker 3: makes sense now and then. But the other I had
Speaker 3: no idea. The other other ones got like hyphens in
Speaker 3: their name. I have no idea. Where's the mayor? Can't
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Speaker 3: segment Life is serious? TJ. Friedo's two out two run
Speaker 3: double Willie in the six rally? Does Red legs over
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Speaker 3: thought they were gonna lose. Reds are that one three
Speaker 3: in a row last and nine of their last twelve
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Speaker 3: the last ten games. Who's got the best record in baseball?
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Speaker 3: after the game. Now, what about Graham Ashcraft's growing We
Speaker 3: got an update on everybody is groin Uh, Graham Ashcraft
Speaker 3: is on the I l with a right groin string.
Speaker 3: I may have a groin string. How do you do that?
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like catching? Maybe you know Hunter Green had
Speaker 3: one and then Graham assavirus. Maybe it is. You know,
Speaker 3: my mother's maiden name was Graham, so are we am
Speaker 3: I related to Graham Ashcraft? Might be Mike Groin feels
Speaker 3: great to go on ancestry dot com. You know, a
Speaker 3: loose groin is a happy groin. The Reds lost Alfieader
Speaker 3: Jacob heard of east A, Seattle on a waiver claim
Speaker 3: Austin Hayes and his foot is getting better over the
Speaker 3: last few days at bone bruise off a foul ball
Speaker 3: and a left foot contusion on May the thirtieth, so
Speaker 3: a ball hit his foot. He's been out from now
Speaker 3: for two and a half three weeks. Noel V Marte,
Speaker 3: Ted McKay, what's wrong with him? He's getting an MMR
Speaker 3: on his left oblique injury today. It happened on May
Speaker 3: the seventh. It's just now working on his oblique. If clear,
Speaker 3: he will head to Arizona for rehab on Friday. It'll
Speaker 3: probably be the batter for a Hunter Green out there
Speaker 3: as And also before we go any further, Willy, I
Speaker 3: can't believe you forgot this. I wonder if he's he
Speaker 3: has bugs attracted to him, so those old are his buddies.
Speaker 3: Those are his true friends. NHL. Sam Reinhardt four goals
Speaker 3: last night, the half brother of of uh of Scott
Speaker 3: Scott Reinhart. Florida downs Edmonton five to one. The Panthers
Speaker 3: are back to back Stanley Cup champs. Got a couple
Speaker 3: of Canadians. I want to benji each right now. It
Speaker 3: becomes a second player in NHL history with four goals
Speaker 3: to clinch a Cup. The first person to do it.
Speaker 7: Babe Die, Babe, Die, Babe Die.
Speaker 3: The Toronto Saint Patrick's in nineteen twenty two. You related
Speaker 3: to Babe Secarious. Maybe so Pete Die, the guy that
Speaker 3: Pte died, Babe Golf. A Florida team now has won
Speaker 3: the four of the last six Stanley Cups. Two in
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, two in Florida. That's not possible. A Canadian
Speaker 3: team has not won a Cup in thirty four years.
Speaker 3: You think they know how to play hockey. We've taken
Speaker 3: their national pastime and made it America's game. So you're
Speaker 3: saying a National Hockey League Canadian franchise thirty four years
Speaker 3: has not won the Stanley Cup. That's impossible. I will
Speaker 3: I guess. Nineteen ninety one, wait a minute, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Corey Perry, player for the Edmonton Oilers, has lost five
Speaker 3: straight Stanley Cup Finals. He's participated in how many different teams?
Speaker 3: Then Dallas and twenty twenty lost, Montreal and twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one lost, Tampa Bay in twenty twenty two lost, and
Speaker 3: Edmonton last year and this ye lost lost. Ya. Don't
Speaker 3: take him if he wants to go to your team,
Speaker 3: don't take him. Let's see. Also Game six tomorrow night
Speaker 3: at Indianapolis of the NBA Finals, is it over Thunder
Speaker 3: up there? Three games to two. It's a must win
Speaker 3: for the pacer Men, otherwise they're going to go home
Speaker 3: with the Edmonton Oilers. And Rose Lavelle coming back coming
Speaker 3: back to playing her hometown will he the mounta Notre
Speaker 3: Dame grad will be in uniform when they play three
Speaker 3: friendlies this summer, including the end of the month June
Speaker 3: twenty ninth against Ireland and t QL Stadium. She's been
Speaker 3: out about six months with an ankle injury that required surgery,
Speaker 3: got to pitch for the Red and she is she
Speaker 3: is going to return to the Queen City with the
Speaker 3: United States women's national team and my wife, Ryan Mountain
Speaker 3: Notre Dame High School while she was there and taught
Speaker 3: her how to play soccer. Oh there you go, right there.
Speaker 3: Penny also taught mel Thomas how to play basketball at
Speaker 3: Mountain Notre Dame. How about that. Wow, there's a great
Speaker 3: player right there, mel Thomas did she did you? She
Speaker 3: beat you? That was some other woman. That was Stacy Land.
Speaker 3: That's right. Stacy Land beat me. That's right. Women beat me,
Speaker 3: but men do not. Just ask Byron Larkin and Bobby
Speaker 3: Brandon ask him all they all got at Moehler at halftime.
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Speaker 3: No all right. Segment baseball tonight. We think, of course
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Speaker 3: tomorrow is a business special. Correct on June teenth? Juneteenth,
Speaker 3: I'm taking off you taking off? No, I will not
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Speaker 3: tim be here at Kenwo Country Club playing golf. Does
Speaker 3: that make sense. I'll be celebrating, that's all right. Scott Rodgers,
Speaker 3: he's got to celebrate sometime. I'm Steve Tino, Scottie Rodgers.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go play golf. That the coach, that's him. Well,
Speaker 3: I taught Scotti Rodgers how to shoot at Indian Hill,
Speaker 3: where he played in high school. I taught him how
Speaker 3: to coach a mountain. Notre Dame. You mean JJ Dieters
Speaker 3: isn't going to be on your team this time. I
Speaker 3: talked to his brother, the Buzzard about this. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he refuses to play JJ spawn deaters and me anymore.
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Speaker 3: It's on the bench. Somewhere. Oh, they in session. Yes,
Speaker 3: he's in session on Tuesday and Wednesday. He's got life.
Speaker 3: They got a rough schedule up there at the Supreme Court. Huh, Well,
Speaker 3: they work hard behind the scenes. You know that. Well,
Speaker 3: that's true. You know that, that's true. You're right. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. I'm down here with an indictment.
Speaker 3: The Reds are the best team in baseball over the
Speaker 3: last eleven games. But you've been winning. And the Yankees,
Speaker 3: who are coming here next week, they've been shut out
Speaker 3: three straight games, and that's a crisis. They can't PLoP.
Speaker 3: Big Apple, can't play. No, maybe they'll keep that streak
Speaker 3: going in. The Reds will smoke them when they come
Speaker 3: here starting Monday. The more players get hurt, the more
Speaker 3: the Reds win. Correct, Hunter Green's growing, Graham Ashcraft growing.
Speaker 3: Somebody's toe. That's Austin Hayes. His toe hurts, Austin Elmore, Hayes.
Speaker 3: What about Marte? What's wrong with him? Martes had a
Speaker 3: left left oblique injury since May seventh. Of course, Tyler
Speaker 3: Stevenson comes has come back. Who else, Well, Rett Lauder's
Speaker 3: nowhere to be found. That's going to be a long time,
Speaker 3: and McLean's starting to hit the ball, and McLean's starting
Speaker 3: to hit, So it just takes a little time of time. Right,
Speaker 3: I'm a good show. I think the Reds are a
Speaker 3: game and a half out of a wild card, right, correct, dude,
Speaker 3: do you think you'd be saying that, say that they
Speaker 3: all star breaking about a month? Well, if that's the case,
Speaker 3: then they better buy than sell. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 3: Naples next week for a week, and it's gonna be
Speaker 3: cooler in Naples than here, really, so I want to
Speaker 3: go where the life time that happened Never it's like
Speaker 3: eighty eight degrees in Naples ninety four. Were going down
Speaker 3: there for cool for meetings, of course, meetings. Can't say
Speaker 3: who you're gonna meet a man. I got David. You're
Speaker 3: gonna go to David Beckham. He's gonna come over from Miami,
Speaker 3: David Beckham. Then you're gonna have Beckham. You're gonna go
Speaker 3: to some guy's place that starts with a dam, don't
Speaker 3: you correct? Can't say yeah, I can't say right, but
Speaker 3: I'm saying we're gonna have little meetings about Iran and everything.
Speaker 3: The media doesn't report on this is Hannity going to
Speaker 3: be down there can't say. But the countryes around Iran
Speaker 3: that are majority Muslim, you're gonna be with him? Want
Speaker 3: America to do this? Well, the Muslim country stand with
Speaker 3: Israel against Iran? Is that well reported? Was that the
Speaker 3: first time was the last time that happened. They've been
Speaker 3: hating on each other for what since time began since
Speaker 3: they built the pyramids in Egypt? Before that Tuesday that
Speaker 3: I saw the movie The Ten Commandments right with Ben
Speaker 3: hur I know we had him in the studio years ago.
Speaker 3: Remember Charlie was here. Yeah, I said, where's the staff?
Speaker 3: He said, is in his bedroom home in the closet.
Speaker 3: I said, I like to get that. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: you're not going to get that. Like the Godfather came here,
Speaker 3: the soul Brother number one, James Brown, and you're not
Speaker 3: going to get the cape? I feel good? Where's the cape?
Speaker 3: But Bootsie Collins has the casks. He's the man. You
Speaker 3: think he's got the cape? Yes, I think boots he
Speaker 3: can do whatever boots he wants to do. Get him
Speaker 3: on in McCall see what he's doing. I'm afraid to
Speaker 3: call anybody anymore. But Uh, let's do this. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: have coming up next Dean Reguez, who claims that right
Speaker 3: now you are moving eight hundred and six miles an
Speaker 3: hour right now? Can you sense that? You think you're
Speaker 3: moving that fast? That's faster than an indy carg Yeah,
Speaker 3: four times faster. Do you sense you're moving eight hundred
Speaker 3: miles an hour? They did that at the Indianapolis five hundred.
Speaker 3: It would be over within five minutes. And if you
Speaker 3: lut lets and if you stop that, you would go
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Speaker 3: sixty six thousand miles an hour around the Sun, as
Speaker 3: you're moving eight hundred and six miles an hour, and
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Speaker 3: toward O'Ryan, are you interested in any of this? Do
Speaker 3: you believe you're moving eight hundred and six miles an
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Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham, the great American of course, Dean Rigas is
Speaker 3: an astrologist, astronomy expert of great note. He knows all
Speaker 3: about the stars and the heavens and things of that.
Speaker 3: Character of this stuff is fascinating. Astronomy is one of
Speaker 3: my sidelines also with geomorphology dominating much of what I
Speaker 3: think about at night is geomorphology, the interaction of water
Speaker 3: plus earth conditions. And he Dean Regas is an expert
Speaker 3: when it comes to astronomy and things like that. And
Speaker 3: Dean Regas, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Speaker 3: I saw somewhere you're writing a book on O'Brian. Where
Speaker 3: is O'rian. Why should I care about Orion?
Speaker 5: Oh man? Orian is my favorite constellation and one of
Speaker 5: those that's one of the most easily recognizable constellations in
Speaker 5: the sky. So I wrote a book about it called
Speaker 5: All About Orian. It is a kid's book, but kind
Speaker 5: of sneaky for adults too, So there's lots of stuff
Speaker 5: that all ages can learn about. And this book's a
Speaker 5: little bit different because it's actually a tactile book, meaning
Speaker 5: that has upraised bumps on it, so you can actually
Speaker 5: feel the outlines of the constellations. And I did this
Speaker 5: in the conjunction with a local place here called Clovernook
Speaker 5: Center for the Blind and visually Impaired. They do a
Speaker 5: lot of braille books, and this is one of their
Speaker 5: first books that they made and produced specifically for that audience.
Speaker 5: It's a really cool book.
Speaker 3: Explain what Orian is because is it in the Milky Way?
Speaker 3: Are we moving toward O Rhyan or against Ryan? Is
Speaker 3: are there earth like planets? What is is it a constellation?
Speaker 3: What is Orion?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So ran out there in the sky. He recognized him
Speaker 5: for the three stars that aro for his belt. This
Speaker 5: time of year, you kind of see him in the
Speaker 5: morning sky, not in the evening sky in the winter time,
Speaker 5: that's where he really shines the most. And so it's
Speaker 5: just this conglomeration of stars that are you know, imaginations
Speaker 5: can maybe kind of see the outline of a guy
Speaker 5: wearing a snazzy belt, but they're all the stars that
Speaker 5: you see in him are in the Milky Way galaxy,
Speaker 5: and they're all at different distances from us, different brightnesses.
Speaker 5: So all those belt stars, they just look like they're
Speaker 5: lined up, but they're really different distances. But I think
Speaker 5: for me, you know, there's a few really amazing stars,
Speaker 5: and you got to start with Beetlejuice. That's the star
Speaker 5: that's marking Orion's left shoulder, So that one's really cool.
Speaker 3: As far as going to Orian, will that ever happened?
Speaker 3: I know Elon Musk is now out of the White
Speaker 3: House and he wants maybe to go to Mars, and
Speaker 3: I think you told me before you might want to
Speaker 3: go with him to Mars. He says, make Mars great again?
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, can we ever visit Oryan? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean Ryan is so far away. These stars are
Speaker 5: incredible distances. So if we're talking like Mars, so if
Speaker 5: we want to go to Mars at its closest point
Speaker 5: to the Earth is about thirty five million miles away.
Speaker 5: Travel time is about seven months or so to get
Speaker 5: from Earth to Mars. And that's under the best conditions.
Speaker 5: Going to a star like Beetlejuice, it's so far away,
Speaker 5: astronomer is going to only estimate its distance at about
Speaker 5: six hundred and forty late years. And if we wanted
Speaker 5: to go there, boy, it would take you a long time.
Speaker 5: But right now about travel time to go one light
Speaker 5: year is about ten to fifteen thousand years to go
Speaker 5: one light year, So getting six hundred and forty of those, yeah,
Speaker 5: good luck with that.
Speaker 3: So if I took spacecraft the fastest one we got
Speaker 3: right now, and said take me to Oriyon, and I
Speaker 3: took off at the speed of light, which is how fast.
Speaker 5: Speed of light one hundred and eighty six thousand miles
Speaker 5: per second per.
Speaker 3: Second, So that's moving. That's like going around the middle
Speaker 3: of the Earth about seven or eight times in a second.
Speaker 3: So that's moving. If I'm moving at got read to speed.
Speaker 3: I have lots of gas, I have battery power, I
Speaker 3: got everything, I got the batteries, I got it all,
Speaker 3: and I'm going one hundred and eighty six thousand miles
Speaker 3: a second, and that's moving. How many years it would
Speaker 3: take me to get there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, each each star is a little bit different distance.
Speaker 5: So you pass the Moon and about a sitting and
Speaker 5: a quarter, so you get past the Moon pretty fast.
Speaker 5: You get to Mars in ten minutes or so, and
Speaker 5: then after that, let's see Pluto, maybe about four hours.
Speaker 5: You get the Fluto in four hours. So that's all
Speaker 5: very reasonable amount of time still moving. But then if
Speaker 5: you want to go to let's say, you know, Beetle
Speaker 5: Juice will take you six hundred and forty years. Some
Speaker 5: of the Belt stars are Ryan, it would take you
Speaker 5: over a thousand years just to get there, even at
Speaker 5: that speed.
Speaker 3: So if I if I live for a thousand more
Speaker 3: years and I'm going one hundred eighty six thousand miles
Speaker 3: a second, I can get there and six hundred and
Speaker 3: forty years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no problem, Right, that's you know you're you're gonna
Speaker 5: live for a long time. You know you could do that.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you the question, Uh, why are you
Speaker 3: studying this if it's unlikely anybody's ever gonna step foot
Speaker 3: on Oryan unless I'm really moving, I can't imagine going
Speaker 3: around the center of the Earth about eight times in
Speaker 3: a second. Now that's moving and I've got to move
Speaker 3: with that speed for six hundred and forty years. What
Speaker 3: is this interesting? Regez Oh?
Speaker 5: For me, it's the there is that thing about the
Speaker 5: vastness of the universe. It really attracts me. There's something
Speaker 5: about that that that that not only we can see
Speaker 5: these things that are so far away, these stars that
Speaker 5: are incredible distances away that they're shining in our night sky,
Speaker 5: there's also the history to it that people been looking
Speaker 5: at these same stars and marveling at them and what
Speaker 5: they are, and for kind of the first time in
Speaker 5: human history, we actually understand what it is we're seeing
Speaker 5: up there. So, you know, when we think of our
Speaker 5: ancestors looking up and seeing a big guy wearing a
Speaker 5: snazzy belt of oriyon uh, now we know what those
Speaker 5: stars are and what they're like. So it sends my imagination.
Speaker 5: I know, I can never go out and visit them
Speaker 5: and circle around them. But that's that's why I kind
Speaker 5: of like writing these books about this, because it takes
Speaker 5: my imagination.
Speaker 3: There are there earth like planets anywhere on Harian that
Speaker 3: I could visit on vacation. Is there an earth like
Speaker 3: facility there?
Speaker 5: You know, that's an interesting question because they've done a
Speaker 5: lot of you know, astronomers have been looking for these
Speaker 5: exoplanets planets that are circling around other stars, and most
Speaker 5: of the surveys are in another part of the sky.
Speaker 5: They don't really involve Oryan very much. And I don't
Speaker 5: know whether that is if it's part of the angles
Speaker 5: of things like that. But all the big stars we
Speaker 5: know of around Ryan, I haven't heard of any of
Speaker 5: them have exoplanets. But what we're finding is that about
Speaker 5: one in five stars in the Milky Way have at
Speaker 5: least one planet around them. So that's a more than
Speaker 5: five stars. Of all the stars, and we're talking maybe
Speaker 5: three hundred billion stars in our galaxy, one in five
Speaker 5: of those have planets, so that's sixty billion planets right there.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of choices for planets.
Speaker 3: So if I have some free time, about six hundred
Speaker 3: and forty years to get there and come back, so
Speaker 3: we're talking almost about one thousand, three hundred years. If
Speaker 3: I can travel one thousand, three hundred years at a
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty six thousand miles per second going
Speaker 3: there and coming back, I'd be back in time for
Speaker 3: what the Middle Ages? I don't know. If I come
Speaker 3: back to Earth, what if nobody's here, Well, what if
Speaker 3: everyone's died a thousand, one thousand years third tier, I'd
Speaker 3: be alone.
Speaker 5: Oh, now we're getting into some deep stuff. But you know,
Speaker 5: if you're going to travel six hundred forty years to
Speaker 5: get somewhere, I think I'd probably hang out there for
Speaker 5: a while. But let's say you go and you turn around,
Speaker 5: you come back. H This is where you get into
Speaker 5: some weird time dilation because when you're moving that fast,
Speaker 5: time for you slows down, while time for everybody else's
Speaker 5: goes more normal. So if you wanted to, oh, this
Speaker 5: is going to be deep, Bill, I don't know.
Speaker 3: This is this is tough.
Speaker 5: If you go actually go faster than the speed of light.
Speaker 5: So if you could go faster than one hundred eighty
Speaker 5: six thousand miles per second, you would actually go out
Speaker 5: and come back to the past. So you would you
Speaker 5: would travel backwards in time because you're going faster than
Speaker 5: time too, and so yeah, you could come back. If
Speaker 5: you could go double the speed of light, then you'd
Speaker 5: come back. Yeah, six hundred years in the past.
Speaker 3: Oh, that would be cool. So you're saying it'd be
Speaker 3: like thirteen or fourteen hundred, I'd be in the Middle Ages.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not sure I could live in
Speaker 3: the Middle Ages. I saw this special in the History Channel.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure any of us could make it.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: Lastly, Oh, no, you would be you would be like king.
Speaker 5: You would like information, you'd rule them all.
Speaker 3: Bill. They think I was crazy. They think I was nuts,
Speaker 3: because most people do. Anyway. Anyway, let's assume I'm sitting
Speaker 3: here in Kenwood. My body is in a studio with
Speaker 3: Tony Bender. As I sit here in this studio, how
Speaker 3: fast am I moving right now? And I don't know it?
Speaker 5: Oh, you you're moving in a lot of different ways
Speaker 5: and a lot of different speeds. So as the earth
Speaker 5: rotates once every day there in Kenwood, there, you're traveling
Speaker 5: about eight hundred and four miles an hour, as you're saying,
Speaker 5: once a day, and you face the sun it's daytime.
Speaker 5: Face away from the sun it's nighttime. So you make
Speaker 5: that spin every day, and then you're going around the
Speaker 5: Sun at about sixty six thousand miles an hour. So
Speaker 5: that's you're moving that way to make that big spin
Speaker 5: around the big circle around the Sun, and then the
Speaker 5: Sun and all the planets are going around the Milky
Speaker 5: Way at hundreds of thousand miles an hour, so you
Speaker 5: got a lot of motions going on.
Speaker 3: I don't feel it. So I'm moving right now eight
Speaker 3: hundred and four miles an hour in Kenwood. But the
Speaker 3: Earth of which I'm apart is going sixty six thousand
Speaker 3: miles an hour around the Sun. But our yep, but
Speaker 3: our galaxy is moving one hundred thousand miles an hour.
Speaker 3: I can't figure this out. Am I moving or not?
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm.
Speaker 5: Moving, I know, And even Tony's moving too, which you
Speaker 5: can't believe that. I mean, you know, everybody's moving in
Speaker 5: this kind of thing, and that's what's kind of It's
Speaker 5: all relative too, so you know, even when you're sitting still,
Speaker 5: you're doing something.
Speaker 3: I can't believe. I'm going eight hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 3: That's like three or four times faster than Indianapolis five hundred.
Speaker 3: But you're certain that everyone listening now is moving eight
Speaker 3: hundred and four miles an hour right now.
Speaker 5: If they're in the if they're in the Cincinnati area,
Speaker 5: that's about what they are. If you're up north for
Speaker 5: towards the North Pole, you're not moving. You have a
Speaker 5: smaller circle that you're spinning every day, and then the
Speaker 5: equator is where you're spinning the fastest. So you're going
Speaker 5: a little over one thousand miles an hour on the equator. So,
Speaker 5: uh yeah, it all depends on your latitude. That's what
Speaker 5: the influence is that it's basically like you're a You're
Speaker 5: in a giant car driving down the smoothest highway ever,
Speaker 5: and you can't feel it because everything's going with you
Speaker 5: at that same speed.
Speaker 3: No one believes they're going eight hundred miles an hour. Tony,
Speaker 3: do you think you're going? He said, I'm not moving
Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, I mean, no one believes.
Speaker 5: That might be the exception. It's possible, Tony is the exception.
Speaker 5: He does create his own like kind of black hole there,
Speaker 5: I think, So it's possible he's outside of time and space.
Speaker 5: But for the rest of us, we're moving.
Speaker 3: So if I'm not moving eight hundred and four miles
Speaker 3: an hour, I'm gonna hit the wall in a hurry.
Speaker 3: If I stop and jump like going an elevator that's
Speaker 3: falling from from the ninetieth floor and I'm going down.
Speaker 3: Some people think just before you hit bottom, if you
Speaker 3: jump up, you'll be hey. So if I'm not moving
Speaker 3: eight hundred and four miles an hour, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: in a hurry hard left. Correct.
Speaker 5: You got it. That's some of the doomsday scenarios that
Speaker 5: you hear. Some of the wilder ones are you know,
Speaker 5: back in twenty twelve where people are thinking the end
Speaker 5: of the world was gonna happen, and you know, one
Speaker 5: of the theories was the Earth would flip over or
Speaker 5: stop spinning and all that kind of stuff. And if
Speaker 5: that did happen, So if something stopped the Earth from spinning,
Speaker 5: we would all start flying one direction. Boy, let me
Speaker 5: think about this. Your stuff spin, we'd fly out to
Speaker 5: the left. I guess yeah, it would be uh, it
Speaker 5: would be pretty bad. Everything would just just totally keep
Speaker 5: going in that direction. But that would the amount of
Speaker 5: force and energy to be able to do that. The
Speaker 5: Earth's rotational force is tremendous, and so even if we
Speaker 5: were struck by a large object, that is still something
Speaker 5: that's not not really going to affect it.
Speaker 3: And in the universe to arms, the Earth is like
Speaker 3: a little blue marble, not even close to the size
Speaker 3: of like Jupiter, not even or Saturn. We're just a
Speaker 3: small little marble in space. I'm waiting for you close.
Speaker 5: That's the other thing. People do ask you that if
Speaker 5: it makes me depressed, you know how small things are,
Speaker 5: Like our sun up in the sky is you know,
Speaker 5: over a million times larger than the Earth altogether, and
Speaker 5: the Earth's a pretty darn big place. But it does
Speaker 5: put things in perspective. I don't get depressed about it.
Speaker 5: I just am like, this is incredible that we're able
Speaker 5: to observe this and document this and note this, and
Speaker 5: so that's that gets me excited thinking about everything that's
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 3: All right, Dean, you're telling me I'm going eight hundred
Speaker 3: and four miles an hour the sun, the Earth's moving
Speaker 3: sixty six thousand miles an hour, Our galaxy is moving
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand miles an hour. And Dean Reguez, I
Speaker 3: know it's objectively provable, but no one believes it. Now, well,
Speaker 3: what is your book coming? No one believes what we're saying.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think people believe it.
Speaker 5: Oh, I hope I hope.
Speaker 3: Anyway, when's your book coming out of Ryan? When can
Speaker 3: Tony Bender get it? He wants the book?
Speaker 5: Yeah, all about Oryan. It is available now. You can
Speaker 5: go get it at clovernookprint dot org or on my
Speaker 5: website Astrodean dot com. It's a great book. It's for
Speaker 5: folks that they do a large print version and a
Speaker 5: tactile version and then they have an all Braille version
Speaker 5: also good. So it's good for people that have visual
Speaker 5: impairments and people can see and read together. It's a
Speaker 5: great book.
Speaker 3: Astro Dean dot com. All the information, Dean Regus. No
Speaker 3: one believes what you're saying. But once again, thank you
Speaker 3: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and Dino. Keep
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm trying to make sure you all are keep
Speaker 5: looking up.
Speaker 3: Keep your feet on the ground and reach for the stars.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dean. Bill Cunningham. Do you think you're going
Speaker 3: eight hundred and four miles an hour right now? That's
Speaker 3: I agree with you. No, Bill Cunningham News right now. WW.
Speaker 3: I know it's a small item, but the US Supreme
Speaker 3: Courts deal has delivered a crushing blow to transgender rights
Speaker 3: in a sixth to three decision, the Supreme Court ruled
Speaker 3: that parents and states can determine whether or not children
Speaker 3: deserve protection from irreversible medical experiments masquerading as healthcare. Twenty
Speaker 3: five states protect children, many do not. In the opinion
Speaker 3: relates the idea that in Europe, which is twenty years
Speaker 3: ahead of us, that most European countries have stopped doing
Speaker 3: this because there's no discernible long term benefit of changing
Speaker 3: your gender, and so we'll see what happens down the road.
Speaker 3: But twenty five states have had the courage to stand
Speaker 3: up and tell the transgender lobby na ba banah, putting
Speaker 3: kids welfare first, who might need psychiatric or psychological help
Speaker 3: because they identify different than what they are. I would
Speaker 3: hope as a human being, the segment does not show
Speaker 3: up at some doctor's office identifying as a blind man
Speaker 3: requesting the doctor to take out his eyeballs. He identifies
Speaker 3: as blind, therefore take out my eyes. I hope we'll
Speaker 3: get to that position. God made two genders, male and female,
Speaker 3: and that's it. We'll see what happens. Supreme Court is ruled,
Speaker 3: so let it be written, So let it be done.
Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham, with you every day. You're home of the
Speaker 3: Reds News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: I got you started in this business.
Speaker 7: I can take you where I WILLI.
Speaker 3: Hello by it and I'm I'm broadcasting Rock. Many things happening.
Speaker 3: We have a report out of a people dot com
Speaker 3: that Jordan Hudson opens up about Miss Maine USA loss
Speaker 3: if she's sixty minutes too, yes, and how she leaned
Speaker 3: on Bill Belichick for support when she was beaten for.
Speaker 5: It's nothing about the past, nothing about the futures.
Speaker 3: Right now we're pars cincinnat Rock. Your reactions, she's moving on.
Speaker 7: Do you have about six weeks for him to step
Speaker 7: down or get fired or quit for you and me?
Speaker 7: Hot Fodge Sunday September one? Is that game that's the
Speaker 7: first to you? Yes, they played in Chapel Hill. Correct, Yes,
Speaker 7: Marty's all upset about this. He thought they had Bill
Speaker 7: Belichick to coach for the future. Now you're betting that
Speaker 7: he will not coach one game. No, you were betting
Speaker 7: he won't coach one game. That was me See how
Speaker 7: he does that course, just the Jedi mind trick over.
Speaker 3: On Tuesday yesterday, Hudson posted at lengthy emotional Instagram post
Speaker 3: paying tribute to Melissa Spanini, who won the competition over her.
Speaker 3: In fact, spen Spannini allowed her Jordan, to have the
Speaker 3: crown on her head and took a picture this should
Speaker 3: be yours. Now she's leaning upon Bill Belichick for emotional support.
Speaker 3: I bet she lost the crown.
Speaker 7: She's seen if Bill can pull some strings with Badgine officials.
Speaker 3: Yes, she was wrong. I thought she was third in
Speaker 3: that Well, there was two women in front of her,
Speaker 3: but she went right to the top. Allegedly there was
Speaker 3: Belichick's influence caused her not to win.
Speaker 7: Didn't a biological mail finish ahead of her? Right behind her?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 3: I dare you to say that because the US Supreme
Speaker 3: Court chess ruled that transgender rights are done six to three?
Speaker 3: How about that? It's good, that's good. But I dare
Speaker 3: you to say that you can't say that. Okay, But
Speaker 3: Jordan Hudson throws shade at Bill Belichick's ex girlfriend Linda Holliday.
Speaker 3: They were together as a little cat fight going on.
Speaker 3: What do you think? Put him in a ring?
Speaker 7: Just quieted down? Just you know what, honey, Just when
Speaker 7: your support behind closed door.
Speaker 3: Get preparation and let's keep the greater going. Mind you,
Speaker 3: he's got to get he's got to get the car.
Speaker 3: Heels ready to go here. He can't be messing around
Speaker 3: with this. Secondly, Austin made me a bet about two
Speaker 3: and a half weeks ago the Reds will not win
Speaker 3: six games in June. Oops, who's got the best record
Speaker 3: in baseball the last ten games? Who's the only team
Speaker 3: in baseball not to lose an entire series to any teams?
Speaker 3: You never doubted him, never, no doubt one time? Yeah,
Speaker 3: now what how many games are that? Out of first place?
Speaker 3: Out of the wildcard game and a half? Your reaction wrong?
Speaker 3: I never doubt him one time. Never never doubted La
Speaker 3: da Cruz, Yes, you did.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Marty says he belongs in centerfield. What do you say?
Speaker 3: I've said that from him beginning. He's got the most
Speaker 3: errors this league, in the National League from the shortstop position.
Speaker 3: I know, as of three weeks ago, he did number
Speaker 3: forty four. Last here who had the most errors him?
Speaker 3: Eric Davis, number forty four. No, Eric Davis had zero ERA.
Speaker 3: I'm not puting Eric Davis a shortstop with his stride
Speaker 3: in his arm, he belongs in centerfield, right, and just mentally.
Speaker 7: It's just it's a little easier mentally to go run
Speaker 7: around the shag balls in the center field than it
Speaker 7: is the complicated aspects of.
Speaker 3: Problem with Scott Borass. That's the problem because.
Speaker 7: He thinks he get paid more if he's a short stop.
Speaker 7: I don't think you don't think you do it all.
Speaker 7: But he wants nothing matters, and it's all about how
Speaker 7: do you hit. I don't care what position you play.
Speaker 7: Do you hit the ball out of the ballpark. That's
Speaker 7: when the kids love. Dela Cruz. Correct, you get a
Speaker 7: bobblehead tonight, it'll be packed on it. I got one
Speaker 7: of those bobble heads. I gave it to the middle
Speaker 7: rock whose birthday was what Ronday? He was all fired up?
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 7: By the way, I tell you what his birthday present was.
Speaker 7: He got a gecko. He wanted a gecko like a
Speaker 7: real lizard type guy, by the way, and he named
Speaker 7: it Jamar Chase. Pretty good, Jamar Chase boyman. When the
Speaker 7: gecko gets out, one of the dogs eats him.
Speaker 3: Panic. Kelly won't be able to deal with it.
Speaker 7: She wanted to go to the pet store today and
Speaker 7: get fifty crickets like a bag of fifty crickets and
Speaker 7: I had to like take these things out and they
Speaker 7: are jumping all over hell, and you know she's losing
Speaker 7: her mind. I had to get him in the tank.
Speaker 7: But the is what's going on at the Boyman householder,
Speaker 7: don't get a bowl of constrictor go get rabbits. No,
Speaker 7: see that's a good thing. Unlike the bow was that
Speaker 7: start off is you know, one foot two foot snakes
Speaker 7: and eventually get to like ten I think a gecko
Speaker 7: stays about you know, about three four inches. When he
Speaker 7: gets out, there'll be complete chaos. We already had the turtles.
Speaker 7: Remember the turtle got out twice.
Speaker 3: Now what do you do? Is he dead? Yet?
Speaker 7: He luckily he was slow. That gecko is not slow.
Speaker 7: I think bing bing bing bing all over the place.
Speaker 3: Turtles don't move that. No, no, feed up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Is a turtle still there?
Speaker 7: No, we found him and we have you know, he
Speaker 7: was kept in the house about a week. No, we
Speaker 7: let him go back out in the wild. It was
Speaker 7: just a tempting.
Speaker 3: You're a smart guy. You're from San x right. Sure.
Speaker 3: I just had on Dino Regus, who says, as you
Speaker 3: sit there, you are traveling at eight hundred and four
Speaker 3: miles an hour right now? Cents that No, not at all.
Speaker 3: And he also says.
Speaker 7: You're out of space. You're sharing like eighteen thousand miles
Speaker 7: per hour.
Speaker 3: He says the Earth is moving around the Sun at
Speaker 3: sixty six thousand miles an hour. Do you sense that? No?
Speaker 3: And our galaxy is moving toward Oryon at one hundred
Speaker 3: and ten thousand miles an hour. Do you believe that?
Speaker 3: Where's Oryon? What is that in the sky? That's a
Speaker 3: stupid question. Have you seen Oryon movies? They got movies
Speaker 3: that I know Oryon makes movies, but I know somewhere
Speaker 3: but just you right now? And is that another galaxy? Yes,
Speaker 3: and that's moving away from us. He's talking about the
Speaker 3: constellation Oryon's belt. You know that. And this sun, our
Speaker 3: sun is one million times larger than the Earth, and
Speaker 3: our sun is one million times smaller than other suns.
Speaker 3: Can can you fashion? You can't wrap your head around
Speaker 3: that so much? What are the where are the other suns?
Speaker 3: There's a billion billion suns last time we had Dinon.
Speaker 7: Obviously, you know, to travel far distances to Earth like planets,
Speaker 7: you need to approach the speed of sound. Even then
Speaker 7: it's going to take thousands of years. So the key
Speaker 7: he said was find a way to go faster, excuse me, than.
Speaker 3: The speed of light.
Speaker 7: And eight or six that we can't come closer to
Speaker 7: the speed of light, but we need to go faster
Speaker 7: if we ever want to get to like an earth flake.
Speaker 3: How do you go one hundred that's going around the
Speaker 3: center of the earth about eight times in a second.
Speaker 3: That's moving in it, it's moving, And to get to
Speaker 3: Orion will take six hundred and fifty years. Six hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty years to get there. Then you got to
Speaker 3: come back. That'll take six hundred thirteen. You pull off
Speaker 3: for gas on your way there. Yeah, is it electric?
Speaker 3: Is it an electric spaceship? You could do that kind
Speaker 3: of deal with the sun shining on it with batteries.
Speaker 3: But that's moving. That's that's I don't believe. Do you
Speaker 3: believe any of this?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Please continue, I don't believe it. Believe the stooge reporters
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Speaker 3: According to Yahoo Finance, here in is Rock, Bill Belichick's
Speaker 3: twenty four year old girlfriend now is in control of
Speaker 3: eight million dollars in rental property Empire of Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: She's now like weeks old news, but she's spying.
Speaker 7: She's selling stuff. She's renting. She's gonna rent those things out,
Speaker 7: but she's selling it. If she rented all three of
Speaker 7: them out, I think they said that the income she
Speaker 7: could earn is eleven thousand something a month.
Speaker 3: One is five nine hundred dollars a month. But she's
Speaker 3: getting ten percent of the cut. Why don't you go
Speaker 3: down there and rent one of them places and then
Speaker 3: have her on the show. You're gonna have her on
Speaker 3: July first, I mean September. You're doing that game interview,
Speaker 3: doing the game? Aren't you takes Sarah a lease with
Speaker 3: you to do it?
Speaker 7: I'd be something, Yeah, say what does she tell you?
Speaker 7: Was she whispering your ear?
Speaker 3: Nothing? That's one right there? Her birthday yesterday? Correct, That's
Speaker 3: what I'm told. He was eighty four years old or something.
Speaker 3: He segments. If you had to choose between Sarah Elise
Speaker 3: and wild Man Walker, this your choice. I would send
Speaker 3: my get in a rocket and go to Orion and
Speaker 3: see you guys in six hundred years. Resin twins tonight
Speaker 3: seven hundred WW has covered six to ten sports talk,
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Speaker 3: Show after the game. The Reds have won three in
Speaker 3: a row, neither their last eleven. As I've said, a
Speaker 3: game and a half out of the playoffs game and
Speaker 3: a half. How about the wild game that was last night?
Speaker 3: I lost? Didn't you think they were gonna lose anyway?
Speaker 3: I know? Hit him for four inches, right right?
Speaker 7: I mean, but then abit he gives up a ground
Speaker 7: ball should have been the third out, and Cronossion airmails
Speaker 7: it and then all of a sudden they get what
Speaker 7: four runs out of it, and then the ball goes
Speaker 7: off of Friel's gloves, it goes over the wall.
Speaker 3: Then they came back and won it. Unbelievable. And everybody's hurt.
Speaker 3: Everybody's hurt on the team. Who's who's hurt? Now, let's
Speaker 3: see Rock. I'm glad you asked that question. We got
Speaker 3: the list. Uh, let's see your good friend at Graham
Speaker 3: Asscraft on the I l with a right growing strain,
Speaker 3: your growing strain. Yes, once a week, Uh do you pitch?
Speaker 7: I recommend you get that thing massage to take the
Speaker 7: get go out for a walk.
Speaker 3: I get that's between me and the four walls of
Speaker 3: my house. Austin Hayes at his foot, feeling better over
Speaker 3: the last few days. He had took a foul ball
Speaker 3: off his left foot with a bone bruise on May
Speaker 3: the thirtieth.
Speaker 7: So that's just a pain, tollers and there's no structure,
Speaker 7: just knowing something and you take the pain.
Speaker 3: Let's go twel v. Marte getting an MRI I on
Speaker 3: that left obleak. Today, Martin is clear he was hurt
Speaker 3: on May the seventh. If it's clear, he heads to
Speaker 3: Arizona for rehab on Friday, six weeks joining mister Hunter
Speaker 3: Green Karen Reid murder retrial. The jury has reached a verdict. Well,
Speaker 3: she'll kill her boyfriend cop yay or nay rock. What's
Speaker 3: the verdict gonna be? I don't know, seg I say
Speaker 3: guilty is charged. She ran over her boyfriend as a
Speaker 3: police couple of times, didn't know he was there, thought
Speaker 3: it was a speed bump out right, Yeah, she yes,
Speaker 3: that's what she says speed bumbs usually move pumped up.
Speaker 3: Pumped up. Yeah. The Athletic reports in soccer, FC Cincinnati
Speaker 3: is hopeful to bring home Bayern Munich legend Thomas Mueller
Speaker 3: to join the Orange and Blue. This guy has a
Speaker 3: legend in soccer and Germany's won thirteen bends Laga titles
Speaker 3: what are you talking about it? And FIFA World and
Speaker 3: a FIFA World Cup with Germany in twenty fourteen. What's
Speaker 3: his name? Haak haa no is name is Tomas Moeller.
Speaker 3: If he decides to jump to the m LS, Jeff
Speaker 3: Birding has made that man at a contract offers a
Speaker 3: woman now is fey Wore? Is the US men's national's
Speaker 3: getting him? But we gotta worry about winning They get
Speaker 3: that dude. What about Cua, He's not playing anymore. I
Speaker 3: don't think Harry Kane was here this last week. Ronaldo,
Speaker 3: he was here in Munich, he was he was mess
Speaker 3: He's an inner Miami and Pope is in Well. I
Speaker 3: think about he's from France, but I don't know where
Speaker 3: he's playing. What about Ronaldo the guy you got your haircut?
Speaker 3: You walk into that place and say give me the
Speaker 3: Ronaldo right?
Speaker 7: No, Ronaldo walks into the haircut place and says, give me,
Speaker 7: give me the willy Ronaldo.
Speaker 3: Is that possible? Yeah? And the barber goes, who, thank you, sheriff.
Speaker 3: Who Ronaldo? Who sounds like a rock? That's that guy
Speaker 3: that sells suits in Maderra. Yes, okay, that's Ronaldo. Romald,
Speaker 3: that's Romaldo. He's good man. I love Romaldo. He's ninety
Speaker 3: years old and outfits JD. Vance. I get my suits
Speaker 3: from that place too, good Man. He's a great man.
Speaker 3: Charge are getting to advertise. That's what I'm looking for?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right? What's on the Big Show today? After three?
Speaker 3: Right on the game. We have a doctor Bill Hennessy on.
Speaker 3: We always love having him on.
Speaker 7: He's going to talk about the tariffs and what that
Speaker 7: means for medicine and the price of some prescription drugs.
Speaker 7: We have at four o'clock elade inbar who's a robotics expert.
Speaker 7: You're going to talk about robotics replacing labor shortages.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's all. That's good. The Trumpster put up one
Speaker 3: hundred foot tall American flag now in the White House.
Speaker 3: Democrats have been triggered by that. They are triggered. That's
Speaker 3: Blayton patriotism, and they don't like that, don't want that again.
Speaker 7: They need they need to rework their position on things
Speaker 7: men competing women's sports.
Speaker 3: Now you want to get on the other side of
Speaker 3: transgender Supreme Court just ruled exporting criminal or legal aliens.
Speaker 3: They'll never learn.
Speaker 7: And displaying the American flag. They're against that. Perhaps another position.
Speaker 7: It's a problem that they need to be on the
Speaker 7: other side of it.
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. I'm gonna leave next week to
Speaker 3: go to a much cooler place, Naples, Florida. A high
Speaker 3: down there. It's eighty eight. You know what's going to
Speaker 3: be here, ninety four. I got to go cool down. Okay.
Speaker 3: Got a lot of meetings, a lot of meetings with
Speaker 3: certain individuals about the Iranian difficulties and some guy who
Speaker 3: lives someplace. It starts with an M. I can't say.
Speaker 7: Let's say I'm gonna see kimber to go for a wire.
Speaker 7: Don't say I think she's in Greece trevening Trump. That's
Speaker 7: another issue. I don't know what this meant to beat
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods. He's occupied with Lt.
Speaker 3: Gray. He's got a driver of his own right there. Yes,
Speaker 3: he does and use the shortstick anymore. Never has from
Speaker 3: what I've heard ever. All right, thank you, Rock, thank you, Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: get me out of the Stude Report, please, if you
Speaker 3: don't mind on my on my blog page. We got
Speaker 3: certain issues with the widow of Patrick Erlinger. Interviewed her
Speaker 3: for about an hour and that's going to be up there,
Speaker 3: so checked that out later. Will yet those red hot rids.
Speaker 3: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 3: If I go down, you go down with me? In context,
Speaker 3: I was looking at the segment if I go down,
Speaker 3: you go down with me? You take him down with you? Yes,
Speaker 3: what you're saying, Yes, I go down, you go down
Speaker 3: along with Sarah Elise. The three of us will be
Speaker 3: together in a boat somewhere now. I'll be heading toward Oryan.
Speaker 3: You'll be jumping in Orion or Iran, either one. Either one.
Speaker 3: You know the difference Iran or Oriyan. What are the differences?
Speaker 3: I don't. One's a little bit close sitting the other
Speaker 3: a little bit. Thank you, Thank you. Let's continue with
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