Speaker 1: And we are so back and it's back to nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five. Boss, it's the very first Saturday Night's main event.
Speaker 2: I mean, can you get any better? Honestly, Like, you
Speaker 2: can feel from the moment that this this this, this
Speaker 2: show opens up. You can just feel the excitement. You
Speaker 2: can feel the craze of the fans. It's it's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like they have no expectations, like everything's gravy.
Speaker 1: They're not coming in like unless these boxes are checked
Speaker 1: on board, right, They're like, this is fucking awesome.
Speaker 2: They're not. They're not looking for a certain wrestler's move set.
Speaker 2: They're not hoping to see, uh, you know, a flippy
Speaker 2: floppy bitch.
Speaker 1: They don't book the things. They don't book the thing
Speaker 1: in their head ahead of time, and then blame the
Speaker 1: promotion for not doing exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: What they What they instead do is they get disappointed
Speaker 2: if their guy doesn't win. And wait a minute, actually,
Speaker 2: hold on a second, all baby faces go over? Holy
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just realizing that there is not a
Speaker 2: heel that goes over on this show. There's not even
Speaker 2: a heat angle where a heel lays out a baby face. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is all Wow, I wonder how much
Speaker 1: Wild Dick Eversoll's view. You know, it's like what's fun
Speaker 1: about wrestling is kind of like keeping it lighthearted.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you gotta have a happy ending.
Speaker 2: You know, if we're talking about every every single match
Speaker 2: being its own story, which it is, you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's its own chapter in the greater scheme of things,
Speaker 2: you know, and Saturday Night's main event itself is just
Speaker 2: one chapter in the greater, greater scheme of things. You know,
Speaker 2: this is just one whole story, you know, over and
Speaker 2: over again, round and round we go. And you know,
Speaker 2: people love a happy ending thing events, especially what do
Speaker 2: you what do you mean? Hence they want to go home?
Speaker 2: You want to leave the fans smiling, don't you don't
Speaker 2: you want to put smiles on faces? Write that one down?
Speaker 2: What do you mean smiles? And who's who's smiling? Who's faces?
Speaker 2: Whose smiles are we putting on these faces? Our baby faces? What? Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know about half our baby faces? What what?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Oh you are baby faces? I don't I don't know, baby,
Speaker 2: I don't understand. What on heat?
Speaker 1: Well that's years away.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's going to get hot. It's May,
Speaker 2: it's going to get hot. It's me mis forever solve
Speaker 2: all the things.
Speaker 1: That you can say about working with WWF, what would
Speaker 1: you urge just to think about on the eve of
Speaker 1: the first NBC telecast?
Speaker 2: Do you have something it's getting hot? Hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: It's May. It's going to get hot. It's going to
Speaker 2: get hot. That's it.
Speaker 1: It's going to get hot, and some like it hot.
Speaker 1: From what I understand, I don't know about, but I
Speaker 1: know about happy beginnings. They sound a little bit like.
Speaker 4: Canning Ping Tanning, can Tank Senning Kang Tranning, can kang
Speaker 4: kang kangang be cank.
Speaker 2: Tank kank gang kang kang. Woah, woah woah.
Speaker 1: Who it sounds to me I could be mistaken that
Speaker 1: there's a new driving force in late night NBC.
Speaker 2: Late Night Entertainment. Yeah, you got it right for that matter.
Speaker 1: And this all goes down after sal BelOMO beats Johnny Rods,
Speaker 1: Les Thornton beats Rick McGraw less is more indeed, John
Speaker 1: stud beats Tony Garria, Josey Luis Evena defeats Charlie Fulton,
Speaker 1: and Moondok spot pins Steve Lombardi also pinning Steve Lombardi
Speaker 1: in this evening, Pat Patterson, But enough, but enough about
Speaker 1: the Marriotte. After the show, oh ship, So we opened
Speaker 1: immediately with Yeah, Cindy Lauper and Wendy Richter, here we go.
Speaker 5: So this is what you gotta do.
Speaker 6: You gotta make sure Wendy that Moor does not grip
Speaker 6: your head.
Speaker 7: Because that she always to walk.
Speaker 8: Everything.
Speaker 9: That's right.
Speaker 2: Now, keep your trunks strong.
Speaker 10: We never become from stomach.
Speaker 2: Well did she say keep your trunks strong? Is that
Speaker 2: what she said?
Speaker 1: She said her her trunk strong. Yeah, like her her
Speaker 1: her core. Oh oh okay, all right, it's all it's
Speaker 1: all hilarious to like the NBC intelligensia, you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: of course commenting on you know, wrestlers actually having strengths,
Speaker 1: and it's all.
Speaker 2: Because well, I mean, we all know they don't. They
Speaker 2: don't have any strengths. It's all fake. So we can't
Speaker 2: have So that leaves the creative window wide open. Of
Speaker 2: course you know we can. We can. We can make
Speaker 2: as much ship up as we want, you know, because
Speaker 2: they can't do anything. They're really very limited as individuals.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, we can make them see them
Speaker 2: bigger than they are.
Speaker 1: And look, I understand that Tindy Lapper Show showed up
Speaker 1: to NASA Coliseum having lost her voice. No problem, we
Speaker 1: can just get Edith Bunker on the phone.
Speaker 2: Always keep the trunk store, and.
Speaker 6: This time we're gonna go and there we're gonna win,
Speaker 6: and we're gonna get.
Speaker 11: That you use the bed.
Speaker 2: And destroy.
Speaker 11: That's that.
Speaker 12: I'm hulking and I won't be alone tonight when I
Speaker 12: defend my World Championship title against Cowboy Bob Barton because.
Speaker 2: By the way, uh, we need more Hull Hogan shirts
Speaker 2: with Saturday's main event logo. Absolutely nothing fucking winner thrilled
Speaker 2: than to see him wearing that. I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: same thing when he ninety two when he had the
Speaker 2: new logo on his red and yellow I fucking loved it,
Speaker 2: all right, happy made me happy. Here we go, mister
Speaker 2: b it's gonna be in mid Huh.
Speaker 1: Just saying they should. Uh, they're probably gonna run away
Speaker 1: from it now. But if he's involved, as originally a
Speaker 1: planned with this next Saturday Night's main event, they should
Speaker 1: release a T shirt at the venue of like the
Speaker 1: hul Cogan SNM E shirt.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they totally should, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure they'll shy away from it now. It's so funny,
Speaker 1: you know, when I saw Hogan come out on Netflix,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we should do the first Saturday Night's main
Speaker 1: event for the next one, because they were not only
Speaker 1: hitting he's not only back, but they're hitting us with
Speaker 1: commercials about how he's going to be integrated into the
Speaker 1: second special. They shied away from him, of course in
Speaker 1: the December one, and now it's like, there's no fucking
Speaker 1: chance of that, not at all.
Speaker 2: On It's it's really I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm at a loss. Anyway, here we go. Hold on,
Speaker 2: that's light Hulk, baby, I know that fool Riddy Rodney
Speaker 2: pipe book step.
Speaker 11: His nose in a ring.
Speaker 2: You're gonna ask to me, how pity that food?
Speaker 11: You know, Hot Pitty, that's fool too. So kip back
Speaker 11: and relax first Saturday Night.
Speaker 1: You know, I do like the the the Later theme
Speaker 1: as well, right, because that's what that is on Peacock.
Speaker 1: It's what the s N me E theme would become.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't know when they started doing that
Speaker 2: for real, but I like it. I like it a
Speaker 2: lot mean King Kang King can King Kan w got it?
Speaker 2: Kang Kang can King.
Speaker 13: Kang whennye wheny ween Manna.
Speaker 2: I know which of the two makes me feel like
Speaker 2: I'm playing WrestleMania for the.
Speaker 11: Ne e S's fucking right?
Speaker 2: Oh god?
Speaker 1: So, I mean that's the sizzle reel to kick things off.
Speaker 1: So we've got the bad principle between Cindy Lauper and
Speaker 1: Wendy Richter that stands for annihilated, beaten, annihilated and destroyed
Speaker 1: if you were wondering at home, which I was. And
Speaker 1: and Hogan pumps his fist at mister T at the
Speaker 1: end to that promo you just heard, and smiles at him,
Speaker 1: and we get the freeze frame, and it appears they
Speaker 1: have dubbed in Hogan chants and crowd noise right at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this because already, yeah, you can kind
Speaker 1: of see in the background of these guys talking. I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they did shoot Hogan and mister T
Speaker 1: in the same position that me and Jean stood to
Speaker 1: interview wrestlers right near the ramp, but this kind of
Speaker 1: looked like green screeny to me. Probably not, now that
Speaker 1: we know they only had a twenty four hour turnaround.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that they couldn't do that. That
Speaker 2: seems like a lot to do, especially back then. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to be able to get that done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably why I assigned the chance to like
Speaker 1: a pre recorded thing, because it looked like a green
Speaker 1: screen production. But now that wouldn't have been possible. And
Speaker 1: as the show envelops and you see the position they're
Speaker 1: standing in for the interviews throughout the duration, it's clear
Speaker 1: that they're standing there. So in the background you can
Speaker 1: see wrestlers like walking back up the aisle. Must have
Speaker 1: been one of the Gabbroni's I just talked about. Almost definitely,
Speaker 1: I would imagine, yeah, yeah, I couldn't really make out
Speaker 1: who it was. But so they frame them up that
Speaker 1: way and you can see kind of the lower bowl
Speaker 1: of an arena behind them, and we hit the music.
Speaker 1: You just played freeze frame of Hogan uh slamming piper
Speaker 1: with a red box around it. You know, they do
Speaker 1: that graphic with the red box around the action clips yep.
Speaker 1: And does that logo ever glow in all of its
Speaker 1: fucking neon glory?
Speaker 2: Beautiful? It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Does it survive as the logo today because it didn't
Speaker 1: used to be better.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing, you know, it really is unbelievable that,
Speaker 2: you know, when you think about all the logos that
Speaker 2: they've had, that's the one, Yeah, that one in WrestleMania. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, but even WrestleMania, they've changed a little bit.
Speaker 2: They have, you know, like this the Saturday's even even
Speaker 2: in in in two thousand and eight, the the Saturday's
Speaker 2: main event logo looked pretty much the same, true, like
Speaker 2: the you know, the the WrestleMania one. Yes, it has
Speaker 2: it's mostly the same, but it still has had, you know, differences,
Speaker 2: and you know, they make it look more like a
Speaker 2: you know, like a like a big sign presentation thing,
Speaker 2: and you know with different with their stupid little uh
Speaker 2: uh what do you call it, like logos and stuff
Speaker 2: to you know, well, it's more of the Vince era,
Speaker 2: I guess, Yeah, the logos different. You know, we're not gonna,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna say what number it is. We're just
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna we're gonna in, you know, in we'll
Speaker 2: make a suggestion as to what it is.
Speaker 1: He's big on suggesting, not saying. He would suggest, but
Speaker 1: he would not say, of course I.
Speaker 2: Would suggest, I will not say, but I will suggest.
Speaker 1: Thanks to this broadcast and the credits that role at
Speaker 1: the end, we do know that logos designs for w
Speaker 1: w F at the time or courtesy of Brian Penry
Speaker 1: who's an illustrator and a graphic artist, that they used
Speaker 1: for not only this but the WrestleMania logo as well
Speaker 1: as I believe he also did the metallic w w
Speaker 1: F logo that we all deepen our hearts want to
Speaker 1: go back to. So definitely Brian Penry making a significant contribution.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: We end with that freeze frame that's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: the classic. They even brought it back when they were
Speaker 1: doing sicel reels for the Return of Snemy last year,
Speaker 1: where it ends with Hogan doing the double bicep and
Speaker 1: a freeze frame with a logo next to him. Yep,
Speaker 1: so we get that here, and then we open up
Speaker 1: on the Nassau Coliseum and interesting, they have a white
Speaker 1: backdrop on some of these Saturday Night made event banners,
Speaker 1: not black.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it is very It almost kind of kills
Speaker 2: the look of the logo because you can't see all
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, that's a curious choice. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's the this, Uh, which one of the I forget.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking at the logo right now, but some
Speaker 2: of the letters are white and so or like lighter
Speaker 2: and so they don't show up.
Speaker 1: It's very bizarre, and white just tends to look dirty,
Speaker 1: even if you don't want it to white enough.
Speaker 2: And environment like this. Yeah, it's not a good it's
Speaker 2: not a good look.
Speaker 1: So Vince, Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Nasau County Coliseum,
Speaker 1: where thousands of friendzied fans have gathered for the greatest
Speaker 1: spectacle in wrestling Saturday night.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry he called Is that the greatest
Speaker 2: spectacle in wrestling six weeks after WrestleMania has already think
Speaker 2: of the past? Absolutely? Fuck it? Yeah done, it's over.
Speaker 2: Fuck it. He sucks now.
Speaker 1: They feel like big boys. Yep, so FINKX in the ring,
Speaker 1: they zoom out, they jump to Uh, they could do
Speaker 1: kind of like a jump cut. Some of that sloppiness
Speaker 1: you were talking about. Yeah, I don't like it on
Speaker 1: display right away, Vince. With an introduction, they cut some
Speaker 1: signs in the audience talk about the two biggest names
Speaker 1: and wrestling entertainment. I swear that is said, wrestling entertainment.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Connection Lopper and uh, of course Cindy Lauper and uh,
Speaker 1: Wendy Richter, Vince and Ventura Ventor is all in pink
Speaker 1: with the ring behind them. Jesse is pumped up and excited,
Speaker 1: so he's doing his best to add.
Speaker 2: Some flair in Vietnam.
Speaker 1: He's a well, I guess that's a version of excited.
Speaker 1: The humors are excited because you may die. But he
Speaker 1: says he's excited because it's there's a National Pact six
Speaker 1: man tag team bout. And you know, Jesse loves to
Speaker 1: call him bouts.
Speaker 2: He loves a good bout. And then he started and
Speaker 2: then you can tell you forget. He also likes about
Speaker 2: of pneumonia as well.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can tell he forgets what he's supposed to
Speaker 1: say next, and he goes as well as and he
Speaker 1: looks at Vince, and Vince goes the junkyard dog, and
Speaker 1: then Or recovers with his version of yeah, I meant
Speaker 1: to say that, So he jumped cut to the iron
Speaker 1: cheek as the voice over Vince McMahon.
Speaker 2: So bad, so bad, honestly, and I actually spent about
Speaker 2: an hour trying to figure out if that was a
Speaker 2: natural cut that they did for the actual live thing
Speaker 2: or if it was a WWE thing because it was
Speaker 2: so awkward, Like, don't mean like ww network thing. I
Speaker 2: don't think it. I think it is a legit cut
Speaker 2: in their editing, like for the show. But it was
Speaker 2: so awkward that I thought for sure it must have
Speaker 2: been something having to do with the network cut, something
Speaker 2: out in between Vince and Jesse.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that, because it's not smooth when
Speaker 1: Peacock makes those cuts, or they make those cuts, at
Speaker 1: least they'll do a fade or they'll do something, they'll
Speaker 1: do it dissolve. They actually take the time to try
Speaker 1: to hide it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here, it's just like God, it's like a coliseum collection,
Speaker 1: a colsum video kind of one all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: But what's kind of sad is that it's NBC doing
Speaker 2: the editing according to what you said did and you'd
Speaker 2: think they'd have a little more respect for their own,
Speaker 2: you know, craft, And.
Speaker 1: I'm sure with more time to turn it around, they
Speaker 1: would have put those finer touches on it. But here
Speaker 1: we are, as Vince invites us to Cyndi Lauper's mother's
Speaker 1: mother's Day party coming up on this episode of Saturday
Speaker 1: Nights Made Event. The arena looks so full, it looks
Speaker 1: so robust.
Speaker 2: It does. It's just it's so it's so amazing. What
Speaker 2: a simple you know, just lighting, lighting the crowd what
Speaker 2: it does, and not with red, blue and stupid colors,
Speaker 2: but just plain bright natural lights.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And here's iron Chic on the march to the
Speaker 1: Iranian flag kind of bobbing up above the heads of
Speaker 1: the fans who, just like they recreated in December, are
Speaker 1: at a very narrow aisleway and are able to reach
Speaker 1: out and slap the wrestlers as they make their way
Speaker 1: to the ring.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, as soon as someone actually grabs Cidy
Speaker 2: Laupper like something like a prop or something of Cidey lappers,
Speaker 2: and she like stops and like has to rip it
Speaker 2: back from her from the fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she spins around and gets her forceful. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: creates some memories when everybody's slapping Hulkogan and he's making
Speaker 1: that power walk to the ring. But yeah, it isn't
Speaker 1: to everybody's benefit, ye, but it does make for this
Speaker 1: school visual where all you can see is the Flag
Speaker 1: making its way down the ring. Is Fink makes the introductions,
Speaker 1: and here comes, of course Iron Cheek's partner Nikolai Volkov,
Speaker 1: coming off winning the tag team championships at the very
Speaker 1: first wrestler Mania. Here's mean Gene Okerlan now with the
Speaker 1: US Express and a Ricky the Dragon Steamboat the USA
Speaker 1: Jackets with Captain Captain.
Speaker 2: But we have a Baron Swyndham, Miken's Rotundo and Rickens Steamboat,
Speaker 2: Say Mikens, Mikeens.
Speaker 1: Mikeens, Mikens Tyson also coming up. But of course louill Bano,
Speaker 1: freshly turned babyface managers we've talked about, including whom did
Speaker 1: the Colseum Collection tribute tape to Loue al Bano. Just
Speaker 1: as the Rock and Wrestling Connection kicks off, he of
Speaker 1: course starts as a babyface, opposing Cyndi Lauper because she
Speaker 1: didn't show him the proper respect.
Speaker 2: For of course Britain s as a heel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, starts as a heel, thank you bringing her all
Speaker 1: these great heights and he deserves all the credit. And
Speaker 1: you know it goes from there, but by now he
Speaker 1: has seen the light. We've talked before about how he
Speaker 1: started to get involved with charities, and it became sort
Speaker 1: of awkward for him to be the stomp and heel
Speaker 1: manager when he was trying to use his celebrity for
Speaker 1: some good causes. So he decided to try the babyface route,
Speaker 1: and so by the time most of the rock and
Speaker 1: wrestling eras sets in as far as nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: goes Louill Bano as a decidedly babyface manager. He's only
Speaker 1: got about a year left with the company before they
Speaker 1: failed to see eyed I for much longer, so enjoy
Speaker 1: it well at lasts. I guess you could say here
Speaker 1: he's supporting the USA Express, the US Express and Ricky
Speaker 1: the Dragon, Steamboat Redboat tie on, Vince McMahon and gene
Speaker 1: Oakerland in case.
Speaker 2: You were wondering, Yep, that's why it should be.
Speaker 1: He's an important cout treument. Barry says, I get the
Speaker 1: best team ever I can ever get, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: get it taken care of tonight. Tonight will be the night.
Speaker 1: It's just too bad it's not a title match, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he's trying to forecast if
Speaker 1: they want those belts back, but you can imagine they would.
Speaker 1: Gane asks Lou about Freddy Blassie, who of course is
Speaker 1: the manager of Iron Sheep.
Speaker 2: Well, why why they do a tag? Why do they
Speaker 2: do a six man tag match? Then that was stupid,
Speaker 2: He's kind of Actually, yeah, you had no say in this.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have said no. You couldn't have said no
Speaker 1: to the six man tag and insisted on a tagged.
Speaker 2: Bout right get your title shot, idiot.
Speaker 1: So Bano says, if Freddy Blasi interferes anyway whatsoever, I'll
Speaker 1: cream him, bust him open. The Captain's here, baby, and
Speaker 1: this time you're gonna pay. Lou looks around with a
Speaker 1: fucking rubber band hanging off his face.
Speaker 2: I just cannot stand that. I don't understand why I
Speaker 2: can't get past him. I can't never understood why. And
Speaker 2: it really makes me angry.
Speaker 1: Why you're angry though, because it just it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: And he thinks it's charisma. He thinks you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, right?
Speaker 2: Like you know what did he do? Staple it there?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What the fuck? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 14: Man?
Speaker 2: Like be a man and fucking grow up? Look like
Speaker 2: a complete moron. I mean, seriously, seriously, you already look
Speaker 2: like a fucking bowling ball.
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone else gets a word in? Once
Speaker 1: Captain Luke gets started, he run NBC no less. I
Speaker 1: mean this guy would I'm sorry, what what was that? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, my my, my go doctor doctor Puffick and
Speaker 1: he was telling me about accompanies to the ring by
Speaker 1: his personal physician, Rodney East gave them me. I mean's tremendous.
Speaker 1: I gotta give a little man of that, the Papuffnick stuff.
Speaker 1: All that ship is fucking wild, a little a man.
Speaker 2: This is the fact that he goes off on it,
Speaker 2: and you know, he just doesn't fucking shut up. He insists.
Speaker 1: He he so insists on being in front of the
Speaker 1: camera that again there he has taking a lie detector
Speaker 1: test about whether wrestling's fake.
Speaker 2: So we can get back on TV.
Speaker 1: Goes on World News tonight back in the day just
Speaker 1: to call wrestling reel and get laughed at. He just,
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a camera he wants in front of.
Speaker 1: This guy insists on being sixty percent of his family's
Speaker 1: wedding videos, let alone Saturday Night's made event. So no
Speaker 1: one's going to stop him. So so he back go
Speaker 1: back to the ring and Freddie blasts and then walking
Speaker 1: around like a pensioner, walking around looking like a guy
Speaker 1: that got a gold watch from Ford after fifty years
Speaker 1: of service.
Speaker 2: He so fucking does. I mean he looks Yeah, he
Speaker 2: looks like you know your great uncle who retired down
Speaker 2: in the south in Florida and you know just fucking
Speaker 2: you know, loves like this. This guy. All he did
Speaker 2: his entire life was look forward to retirement, right, That's
Speaker 2: what he looks like. That kind of guy who like
Speaker 2: there was nothing else that he wanted to do more
Speaker 2: than just retire and not have to do anything. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, he's a trip man. He's from another generation.
Speaker 2: Just to see him.
Speaker 1: Wow, Remember when people walked around looking like that, old
Speaker 1: guys in particular, I.
Speaker 2: Mean especially like, I mean, how old was he at
Speaker 2: that point? Like what was he? I don't know, I
Speaker 2: gotta because like, you know, you think about what he uh,
Speaker 2: what people were, how old people were? I mean he
Speaker 2: would have been it was eighty five, he would have
Speaker 2: been sixty seven, right, Like he would have been he
Speaker 2: was sixty seven years old. Like, my dad's older than
Speaker 2: him and doesn't walk around like that. Say that again,
Speaker 2: my dad's older than him and doesn't walk around like that.
Speaker 1: It's amazing Freddie blast He's a guy who definitely got
Speaker 1: girls because he had a certain.
Speaker 2: Kind of car. Oh for sure, for sure, and he
Speaker 2: was fine with that.
Speaker 1: Thinks his Volkov's request that you all rise and respect
Speaker 1: his singing of the Russian national anthem.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this ring and all on seeing our
Speaker 1: a bunch of l j ns walking around.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I know I see a
Speaker 2: bunch of stiff rubber action figures. Here we go, let's
Speaker 2: let's pay respect to the Russian anthem.
Speaker 11: Suitor ask.
Speaker 2: Russia here it is.
Speaker 5: Ha.
Speaker 2: You know what I love to is that she tries
Speaker 2: like he tempts, so you get Volkov salutes, but she
Speaker 2: also attempts a salute but he can't bend his arm.
Speaker 2: Oh I actually salute. My god, I never noticed this.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with I mean, I guess he's good problems,
Speaker 2: but you can't.
Speaker 1: Last He's out there waving his arms like challenging people
Speaker 1: to get in the ring and fight tremendous stuff like
Speaker 1: Freddy Blassie. Freddie Blassi was the first divorced guy you knew.
Speaker 2: Yes as a keep. Well, not only the first divorced
Speaker 2: guy you knew, but the first divorced guy who got
Speaker 2: divorced multiple times.
Speaker 1: That's yes, perfect, yes, yes, Freddy. Anyone who grew up
Speaker 1: with Freddy. Anyone who knows Freddy like he And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he is, he's not. Actually he's been married
Speaker 1: to the same Japanese woman his whole life. But uh,
Speaker 1: just he's the he's the picture of the person that tries.
Speaker 2: He's not. He's not married anymore though.
Speaker 1: No, I guess we could say that's that's that's off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like when someone says, uh, a woman killed her
Speaker 1: boyfriend yesterday. It's like, I think they were pretty much
Speaker 1: done as a couple once she took the knife out.
Speaker 1: But it's just about where it ended. We can say
Speaker 1: X I think safely but if not ax but so
Speaker 1: flash and right. You know we did you singing Steve
Speaker 1: Riegel's entrance music at on stage at Philly last year.
Speaker 1: Maybe next time we're on stage, you should just do
Speaker 1: the Nikolai felcup.
Speaker 2: Hald heard heard of her. I mean he doesn't even
Speaker 2: tell you saying words. No, I think he said Tollstoy
Speaker 2: in there, Dostoyevsky. I mean it just sounds like guttural
Speaker 2: you know, uh reactions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's say nothing of the main event. So and
Speaker 1: their opponents, And we have the fake dubbed over music.
Speaker 1: But it's supposed to be Born in the USA by Springsteen.
Speaker 1: Is Barry Wyndham leads the walk for the three man squad,
Speaker 1: and my god, did Peacock find the most pathetic generic
Speaker 1: I Love America song to dub over their entrance.
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like they fucking wrote it.
Speaker 1: I know, like they whipped up in ten seconds. It says, oh,
Speaker 1: born free in the USA. Yeah, I'm proud to be
Speaker 1: American maid a pledge allegiance to the Red, White and Blue,
Speaker 1: and then it ends mercifully Captain lew on the march
Speaker 1: Steele and they're waving his arms around George and the
Speaker 1: animal Steel. Of course, the most unorthodox wrestler in the
Speaker 1: world today, according to one Vince McMahon, in case you
Speaker 1: needed to guess who said the word unorthodox. As for
Speaker 1: George Steele and Louis Bano, who were about to rejoin after,
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny we look back on George Steele
Speaker 1: wrestling Pedro Morales in seventy three last time we were
Speaker 1: with you. That's just as Louillbano was becoming the New
Speaker 1: York manager of the big heavyweight monsters, going after the
Speaker 1: world title, starting with Crush Overdue, as we talked about
Speaker 1: back when we did his Colisseum tape. And so now
Speaker 1: all these years later and they make very quick reference
Speaker 1: to it, and we'll touch on it that there was
Speaker 1: a history between Steele and Albano as manager in protege,
Speaker 1: and here they get back together. They also come up
Speaker 1: with an LJN tupac right around this time of.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I mean the thing too, is
Speaker 2: I've always wondered, I I you know, I knew. I
Speaker 2: never knew when and where and why George Steele turned
Speaker 2: baby face right.
Speaker 1: But why he was beloved for eating the turn buckles
Speaker 1: instead of fear right.
Speaker 2: Because like I've always known him for being a heel,
Speaker 2: and I just know that by WrestleMania two, right, he's
Speaker 2: a babyface. This is it right here, and it's amazing.
Speaker 2: I was not expecting that at all.
Speaker 1: So we got our graphics. Those have yet to be reconstituted.
Speaker 1: They still have those nineteen eighty five fonts like the
Speaker 1: WRESTLMINGI one broadcast did interesting. The Satura night's main event
Speaker 1: logo had that white backdrops I talked about. Vince says,
Speaker 1: Lou has been cranked up as never before, and there's
Speaker 1: I have no doubt about that. Okay, let's say he's
Speaker 1: closer to white planes in more ways than one. Jesse says,
Speaker 1: forty Blast, he's got the rough guys on his side,
Speaker 1: Yes he does, and Albano has the more scientific, youthful
Speaker 1: wrestlers on his side.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's interesting, you know, because because Vince does
Speaker 2: ask Jesse how he thinks the match will play out,
Speaker 2: and he goes, you know, like this.
Speaker 12: Well, it should be a real interesting matchup, Vince. You know,
Speaker 12: Freddie Blast he's got the rough guys on his side,
Speaker 12: Captain New Albano possibly a little bit more scientific wrestling
Speaker 12: on his side, and a little bit more youth on
Speaker 12: the side of Captain Lewis Albano.
Speaker 2: So, like he just said, but that doesn't really answer
Speaker 2: the question at all. He said, Jesse, how's this going
Speaker 2: to play out? And he just fucking lists stats. You're right,
Speaker 2: lists attribute They used the tail of the tape. Ah
Speaker 2: used to Yeah, he used to be very good at that,
Speaker 2: not answering the question. He was asked, Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: why they won't let me in the debates. Is that why?
Speaker 2: That's why?
Speaker 1: So George Steele and Nikolai Volkoff and the Iron Cheek
Speaker 1: versus very window, micro Tundan, Rickey steamboat. Vince points out
Speaker 1: that Albano at one time managed Steel is mentioned and
Speaker 1: manage him very well. As a matter of fact, naturally
Speaker 1: there in Cheek starts occasions and here at George Steel's
Speaker 1: like huh and gets on the apron. He has no
Speaker 1: idea whether he's legal or not. He doesn't know who
Speaker 1: his partners are, he doesn't know who his opponents are.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what this whole thing is. And Vince
Speaker 1: says that the name of the game is teamwork. Despite
Speaker 1: a good deed, each individual is functioning as a cohesive
Speaker 1: unit despite who.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how good.
Speaker 1: Oh No, matter how good each individual wrestler is, that's
Speaker 1: not the question here Boston. The question is how do
Speaker 1: they function as a cohesive unit?
Speaker 2: Of course, that's that's that is tag team wrestling. How
Speaker 2: do you function as a unit? Not as in are
Speaker 2: their tag team specialists in that ring. Uh well, I mean,
Speaker 2: isn't isn't Irwin the greatest technical wrestler of all time?
Speaker 2: According to I mean, how many times has that fucking
Speaker 2: said in the early nineties that that I R s
Speaker 2: is the fucking this, this master technical wrestler. He's a
Speaker 2: fucking idiot who wears a shirt and a tie, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, making Syracuse proud by wrestling time, right, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean even says that, you know, he Evince calls him
Speaker 2: a Syracuse great, and you know, I decided I looked
Speaker 2: him up. I looked up his reputation a little bit
Speaker 2: with Syracuse and and yes, if you look on the
Speaker 2: Wikipedia for Syracuse, and I think specifically the sports A section,
Speaker 2: it does say that he is a one of the
Speaker 2: notable alumni on the Wikipedia page. But if you look
Speaker 2: at any of the the the actual university's awards and
Speaker 2: like Hall of Fames and whatnot, he's nowhere. He's nowhere.
Speaker 2: He's not he's not a great. He's just a fucking clown.
Speaker 2: Just did it. Yeah, he just was there, and you know,
Speaker 2: he happened to get on TV afterwards. That's why he's
Speaker 2: notable because he went on TV. He's fucking fake.
Speaker 1: You want to take clickbait piece of the case for
Speaker 1: Mike Rotunda as the greatest technical wrestler of all times.
Speaker 1: Exciting need that I'll read that case being made. So
Speaker 1: Berry Windom and Iron Cheek lock it up to the
Speaker 1: ropes they go. Iron sheet comes up swing and it's blocked,
Speaker 1: and Barry Wyndham with the red cowboy boots on by
Speaker 1: the way, hauling off with some white hands. Headlock, push off,
Speaker 1: tackle down goes Iron Cheek up and over underneath the
Speaker 1: leap frog and hip toss by Barry Wyndham, and they
Speaker 1: all rejoice that he's taking the chic man off his feet.
Speaker 1: Mike Rotundo hits cheek now from the ring apron and
Speaker 1: Iron Cheek stumbles into a body slam by Barry Wyndham.
Speaker 1: Great tag team cohesion by the US Express.
Speaker 2: That's right. Good job with the Barons and Micans.
Speaker 1: Love how you've suddenly made them sound like Amish people.
Speaker 1: Jebediah anywhere close by Rickins as well, Uncle Zebecaiah. Maybe
Speaker 1: the ring has a very hollow, echoey sound. It does,
Speaker 1: it does, it really does. It's not what I'm used to.
Speaker 1: I don't know where to place it. But maybe they
Speaker 1: micd it differently for this network television show.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Tag to Microtundo, who comes off the top of an elbow,
Speaker 1: to the arm of Iron Chek, and a quick tag
Speaker 1: to Ricky Steamboat, who climbs still with the trunks. By
Speaker 1: the way, he is yet to adopt the long pants,
Speaker 1: which would be his signature looking w w F.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't even fucking notice that.
Speaker 1: That is wild first he wore trunks, including a WrestleMania
Speaker 1: one of course. Yeah, and he fires to the arm
Speaker 1: and drops iron she with a big chop. The steamer.
Speaker 1: Vince calls him several times.
Speaker 2: Someone is hungry, someone wants to get up to Maine
Speaker 2: and and uh uh and and go to a shack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, shouldn't this be shouldn't this be in Baltimore?
Speaker 1: If we're gonna talk this much about No, that's crabs,
Speaker 1: not clams.
Speaker 2: That crab was like, yeah, Steamers, you gotta go up
Speaker 2: to Maine, to Maine, go to a go to ah fuck,
Speaker 2: I can't think of the name of it. Clinton. It's
Speaker 2: in well yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's a specific place
Speaker 2: uh in uh in in uh uh Kittery. The kitty
Speaker 2: I have the all the shops and all the shops.
Speaker 2: There's a place is that there's like a shack type
Speaker 2: establishment right there. Or you go to or you go
Speaker 2: to Browns and Seabrook if you want go to Brown's.
Speaker 2: There you go. That's we're gonna get your fucking clowns
Speaker 2: or Browns or seals the main. Oh god, get your full.
Speaker 15: We got an orders here an steamers for Charlie.
Speaker 2: Honor of steamers for Charlie.
Speaker 15: Yea, it's like you go go order the goddamn steamers.
Speaker 15: This goddamn Charlie.
Speaker 1: Thirteen ricky steamboat action figures. So u Vince says, at
Speaker 1: this juncture as well, if you're if you're looking for
Speaker 1: the words he.
Speaker 2: Uses, oh, better than at this junction, At this juncture
Speaker 2: with the blow bow tie on with dick he ever
Speaker 2: saw in the house. This you can see you, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, Vince, you I want to say juncture every
Speaker 2: now and agains. Yeah, I was, you know, I was
Speaker 2: singing that. I was singing that exact same thing. I
Speaker 2: should say junk at this juncture. It just sounds high end,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, Vince, Vince, I'll tell you what you
Speaker 2: say that you sound real New York. I do I do, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: you sound you sound real NBC. Ah, all right, juncture,
Speaker 2: what if I say something. I kind of love how
Speaker 2: Vincent right, what if I had that? Notwithstanding is that?
Speaker 2: Oh that's very NBC beautiful. Absolutely love that.
Speaker 1: Don't let to tell him twice. I love how Vince's
Speaker 1: face is still kind of fat. Yeah, he's kind of
Speaker 1: still have baby. He's a little bit of baby face
Speaker 1: to him, you know. And he's such a fucking demon,
Speaker 1: you know, such trouble in those eyes. He's such a
Speaker 1: oh yes, stir, Oh my god, so ricky seeing about
Speaker 1: cranks in the arm over and over again and keeping
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Think about it, think about it. He's doing all this
Speaker 2: stuff and at the same time he is considering the
Speaker 2: downfall of everybody around.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it's a necessary precondition to him achieving what he
Speaker 1: seeks to achieve. M So, a steamboat cranks the arm,
Speaker 1: they keep iron cheek in their corner, and an attempted
Speaker 1: an Irish whip could be an elbow. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was to the pectoral area of iron cheek.
Speaker 1: Vince says he's not quite sure what it was. As
Speaker 1: Mikerotunda with a body slam and elbow drop for two.
Speaker 1: Rotunda shifts to the front face lock as Vince says,
Speaker 1: you'll normally see George Steele and individual efforts, and.
Speaker 2: So normally is the George Steele in a more individualistic
Speaker 2: nature providing himself with a with a more of a
Speaker 2: of a of a you know, one on one situation
Speaker 2: which is more appealing to him and to his to
Speaker 2: his essence. And so I gotta tell you, phrasing it
Speaker 2: that way is so much better than just saying he's
Speaker 2: usually wrestles singles, So much better, so much more NBC.
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. I've always said I have
Speaker 2: a much more NBC ideology, right, oh sure, sure, absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, okay, I have a much more NBC ideology. Man's.
Speaker 1: Vince goeshead and says, this is only the second time
Speaker 1: George Steele has ever teamed up. Somehow I doubt that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe he has the records. Handy
Speaker 1: from a Howard Finkel tag to Ricky steamboat and Iron
Speaker 1: Chek is held open for some chops from the steamer
Speaker 1: arm ringer push off whip. Iron Cheek steps into the
Speaker 1: abdominal stretch of does Ricky Steamboat put the ABS stretch
Speaker 1: on or does Iron Chic Now I think yeah Chic
Speaker 1: does oh Chic.
Speaker 2: You know it's hard. They don't really do a lot
Speaker 2: of the heels. Don't really have a lot of offense
Speaker 2: in these in specifically this match.
Speaker 1: No, it's really like an offensive showcase for the baby Faces.
Speaker 1: Nobody puts the abstretch on to try to slow down Steamboat.
Speaker 1: Steamboa Hiptos is out of the hold, and then you
Speaker 1: get George Steele entering and takes a pretty awful hiplock
Speaker 1: from Rae Steamboat as well as does as does the
Speaker 1: third man on that side, Nikolai Volkov. The crowd going off,
Speaker 1: though as it devolves into a pure six brawl, still
Speaker 1: feels like a bit of artificial crowd noise here. I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure the people are going nuts, but it
Speaker 1: just the sound doesn't exactly match what you see these
Speaker 1: bodies doing, which is always always a very disorienting experience
Speaker 1: when you're watching wrestling and here a crowd go crazy.
Speaker 1: You don't see them going crazy. The floor, by the way,
Speaker 1: has yet to have mats. We have exposed concrete.
Speaker 3: oOoOO.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's troublesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely still a little bit of that sharper,
Speaker 1: dirtier edge that has yet to be sanitized by the
Speaker 1: good folks at once a Month's productions. The lightning is bright, though,
Speaker 1: I have to say that is decidedly different than the
Speaker 1: fucking cavernous dungeon that WrestleMania one took place.
Speaker 2: In where it's like you're fucking it's where it was
Speaker 2: like you're watching The Godfather forgot, so you can't see
Speaker 2: anybody's eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true commercial break here and they come back in
Speaker 1: the USA, chance breaking out That sounds like it's organically
Speaker 1: coming through the crowd. We have George Steele clutching his
Speaker 1: head at ringside for some reason, I guess covering well.
Speaker 2: They said he's upset with the noise. They don't the
Speaker 2: crowd noise is bothering him. What's that The crowd noise
Speaker 2: is bothering in? I see that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like he's actually he got hit in
Speaker 1: the back of the head or something. As Ricky Steamboat
Speaker 1: and Iron Cheek mix it up, Irish Whip and Ricky
Speaker 1: Steamboat power slams Iron Cheek rather nicely as Jesse Ventura says, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a power body slamb. Jesse also would add a
Speaker 1: little extra, one extra word that is necessary every now
Speaker 1: and then, power body lamb, power slam Jess, it's a
Speaker 1: power slam.
Speaker 2: Well, he's using the body in a different way, much
Speaker 2: like I use the body Moniker in a different way
Speaker 2: than most people do.
Speaker 1: Also using body in a different way on this night,
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon seeing here was an announcer. Steamboat goes up
Speaker 1: top with a great missile dropkick. But when he climbs
Speaker 1: a and he gets the cross body block, that only
Speaker 1: gets two though, is Nikolai Volkov makes the save and
Speaker 1: Barry Wyndham hops in and starts swinging the crowd is
Speaker 1: with that Nicolai Volcloth and Ricky Steamboat catches him with
Speaker 1: the karate style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 16: Listen, look at the karate's and Ricky Steamboat very successful.
Speaker 2: That's fart. Does steam would even know a single martial art?
Speaker 2: Is he a martial artist? No, he just kind of
Speaker 2: looks like Bruce Lee, right. They went with it as
Speaker 2: we talked about when we did his Colisseum tape. So
Speaker 2: he doesn't know a single fucking martial art. Yet he
Speaker 2: is a he's this martial artist absolutely from Hawaii.
Speaker 1: So Steamboat jumps in the air, pumps his fist as
Speaker 1: Barry Windham covers for two at taged micro tunda double whip,
Speaker 1: double back elbow drops. I think Iron Cheek as a
Speaker 1: Michael tundertis a high leg drop. Okay, brother, he really
Speaker 1: straight up does a leg drop and Iron Cheek kicks out.
Speaker 2: It too very much a concern. What's going on? Brother?
Speaker 2: I haven't even gone, so who's are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Push here? Broke Dick to me a brother, Brother, I
Speaker 2: got a question about why did you saw out there? Dude?
Speaker 2: I'm not going brother, I don't know who's booking this match.
Speaker 2: I know you're new to what we do. Brother, I
Speaker 2: understand who's trying to fuck with me? Brother? I don't understand. Brother.
Speaker 2: Did you see that dude kicking on a leg drop? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So what what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 17: So?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: I smarting this guy up? Hello? Who are you working for? Brother? Exactly?
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Dude? Where are you from? Whoa?
Speaker 13: Who?
Speaker 17: What?
Speaker 2: Terry?
Speaker 14: Work for?
Speaker 17: Me?
Speaker 2: Coming out like this? I mean, brother, what you know?
Speaker 2: You you're kind of like in your like, why are
Speaker 2: you coming from me? Brother, It would be.
Speaker 1: One thing, brother, if I felt like you honestly didn't
Speaker 1: know the significance of the leg drop, you know that,
Speaker 1: I could I could accept that. But when I hear
Speaker 1: you say what I hear you pass it off the
Speaker 1: tone of your voice, like, what's the big deal? I
Speaker 1: kind of I have to wonder if you really do
Speaker 1: know it's a big deal and you're trying to.
Speaker 2: Fuck with me? Brother? Brother? Are you trying to fuck
Speaker 2: whole amania? Brother? Are you trying to fuck a mania? Brother?
Speaker 2: Can someone? Can somebody please get this guy away from me?
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. Can
Speaker 2: someone please get this man away? He's fucking crazy. What
Speaker 2: are you? Who are you talking to right now? You
Speaker 2: talking about my back? Can someone please get this man
Speaker 2: away from me? You're talking about Hulk Hogan that way
Speaker 2: at the first Saturday Night's main event. Someone please get
Speaker 2: this guy away from me. I'm trying to produce a
Speaker 2: goddamn TV show and this guy is talking to me
Speaker 2: about about about legs. You didn't know what a leg
Speaker 2: drop is? Like? Can I can? I does someone? I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: can you explain that does someone have like a fake
Speaker 2: leg they dropped or something like a gum drop like that.
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 2: What are you? What are you talking about? What are
Speaker 2: you talking about? Dude? Hey, look, I'm I'm not yelling
Speaker 2: at you, all right, I'm not raising my voice. I'm
Speaker 2: simply trying to get to the bottom of this because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to produce. I tell you security, Please, can
Speaker 2: we take this guy out of here? I don't even
Speaker 2: know who he is?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Who I know?
Speaker 12: Why I am?
Speaker 16: Dude?
Speaker 2: Well, you know why I am?
Speaker 12: Brother?
Speaker 2: Please, I don't understand. All right? What are you doing here?
Speaker 2: Really fucking me?
Speaker 18: Right now?
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm really starting to get freaked out. And I
Speaker 2: did Did I drop acid and forget about it or something?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking Bob Morton. Brother, I don't know who that is?
Speaker 1: Okay, now it's all clear. And then Hogan wakes up
Speaker 1: from the from the nightmare that's that's Hogan's nightmare of
Speaker 1: the night before sn Dick Eversol is not going to
Speaker 1: know who he is. And then somebody else is going
Speaker 1: to manipulate Dick into thinking he's Hult Gogan and walking
Speaker 1: out there and rustle.
Speaker 2: Hey, we got that Barry Wyndham guy. He's blonde. He's taller.
Speaker 2: Let's have him be Helkgan.
Speaker 19: Wait, well, Baron's hogan dude, Green, Baron's hogan brother, parent's media,
Speaker 19: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Barren's bolea with double B brother?
Speaker 1: What Brian Blair coming in, dude? So yeah, that's all
Speaker 1: a long way of saying. Mikero Tunda hits a big
Speaker 1: leg drop in this match, but yes he's kicked out
Speaker 1: at too, and then George Steele grabs the hair to
Speaker 1: break up the cover and that's blatant, Vince declare is blatant.
Speaker 1: Uh Nikolai Volkoff blindsidesman tries to slam micro Tom, but
Speaker 1: Mike with the go behind does the O'Connor roll for
Speaker 1: a count of two. Nicolai Olakoff swings and missus and
Speaker 1: Mikerotunda with the backside for two, as Vince shouts, hill
Speaker 1: get him for sure this time, which you know what
Speaker 1: that means, he will not exactly Michel Tunda with a
Speaker 1: sunset flip and they end up in the row. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: for some reason, Nikolai Volkoff just can't not fall into
Speaker 1: the ropes when he gets sunset flipped.
Speaker 2: He's such a buffoon, you know, he's just he's just
Speaker 2: a he's just like a lethargic oaf absolutely nickolay Olf
Speaker 2: cough of cough headlock and attag to Berry Wyndham, and
Speaker 2: he stays on volkov headlocking to push off.
Speaker 1: Berry Wyndham ducks and leaps and with sunset flip and
Speaker 1: again they end up entangled in the ropes with no
Speaker 1: chance of a two count uh tag to George Steele
Speaker 1: and here comes here he comes having a fucking seizure.
Speaker 2: You know how that goes?
Speaker 1: Ye lock up and Darry Wyndham starts swinging on him,
Speaker 1: and George Steele answers with cuffing right hands, and then
Speaker 1: Volkoff and Iron Sheeke drop off the apron, not wanting
Speaker 1: to tag and help George Steele. They want to get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of there. As the flash bulbs start
Speaker 1: going off, Berry Wyndham sneaks up from behind on the
Speaker 1: befuddled and helpless and abandoned George the animal steel with
Speaker 1: an O'Connor roll of his own. That gets the one,
Speaker 1: the two, and the three. Okay, and ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: this is the answer to the trivia question the very
Speaker 1: first Saturday Night's main event, What was the first matchup
Speaker 1: that it was indeed what we just recapped for you
Speaker 1: as Barry Wyndham, Mike Rointundo and sorry, just trying to
Speaker 1: pull up the match time here and when you steamboat
Speaker 1: full caught fire and cheek and George Steele six minutes
Speaker 1: thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: To kick off. I still don't really understand why the
Speaker 2: Heels didn't want to tag in, Like why did they
Speaker 2: abandon George Steel? Again, he didn't hit anybody, right, he
Speaker 2: didn't make a mistake. No, he just tried to tag
Speaker 2: out and they bailed on him for some stupid reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he tried to fucking help basically, right exactly, they
Speaker 1: would kind of air drop, heal and face turns out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Back then, sometimes it wouldn't really have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of forethought to it. It was just, oh,
Speaker 1: we need this guy to be a baby face now,
Speaker 1: so let's shoot an angle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are a million But you could still
Speaker 2: just have him hit somebody, yeah, and that would explain it.
Speaker 2: But the fact that they made no reason why they
Speaker 2: didn't want the tag it's very weird.
Speaker 1: They fought with him for so long. It's not like
Speaker 1: they if they wanted to abandon him. They should have
Speaker 1: just abandoned him at the opening bell, right, It's like
Speaker 1: fodd a Button took a bunch of damage and then
Speaker 1: left to maybe I guess the idea is they were
Speaker 1: sick of taking damage and didn't think steel was gonna
Speaker 1: save him. Maybe send him into battle and we're not
Speaker 1: gonna fucking deal with this anymore. But whatever the case,
Speaker 1: and this all leads to, uh, we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: And so all these people start rejoicing. Kids in WrestleMania
Speaker 1: T shirts and dads in flannel. Okay, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for the picture. Oh yeah, dad's in flannel kids and
Speaker 1: WrestleMania T shirts with the fucking the Trucker hats, you know,
Speaker 1: with hul Cogan yellow and red all over him. And
Speaker 1: George Steele makes his way.
Speaker 2: And Dad's in flannel with their arms crossed for the
Speaker 2: most part. The fuck out of air blease Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: And then kind of getting pumped up Whenhulk comes out.
Speaker 2: Is this the Hulk? Is this the Hulk?
Speaker 20: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go Hulk. Oh so we can go home after this, right,
Speaker 2: it's over, right, there's fucking more fuck me.
Speaker 1: For some reason, his fucking mild and nine eighty five
Speaker 1: reads the newsletters and he's like, yeah, they're going home,
Speaker 1: all right, Dad, They're going home or not. There's two
Speaker 1: more matches to go. So George Steele makes his way
Speaker 1: to the corner, rips it open and here's the yellow
Speaker 1: popcorn everywhere, and Jesse doesn't get why he's doing this
Speaker 1: and another do we Iron Cheek and Nikolai Volkov.
Speaker 2: Then not only do they.
Speaker 1: Abandon George Steel boss, they then attack him. Of course,
Speaker 1: why not, Like, are they mad at him for losing
Speaker 1: the match? They left him there? Maybe if they helped
Speaker 1: him and he's still lost, then you almost understand the
Speaker 1: frustration of a beat down exactly.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand. I guess it makes no sense, just.
Speaker 1: The kind of cruelty that can be inflicted on people
Speaker 1: that are born with the condition of George and the
Speaker 1: animal Steel, I suppose is what they're going for. So
Speaker 1: they attack him from behind and this is the face turn.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Steel starts swinging and they bail on
Speaker 1: the crowds getting into it that George Steele actually can
Speaker 1: both of them off. Louell Bano then gets in the
Speaker 1: ring and this is a moment, you know, because they
Speaker 1: had history together and he gets in there, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to calm George Steele like a lion tamer of sorts.
Speaker 1: As Vince McMahon says on the broadcast that Louill Bano is,
Speaker 1: in fact George Steele's form manager brings that up again,
Speaker 1: George Steele looking at the heels like a barking dog.
Speaker 1: You can see that there's no announcer sitted ringside. There's
Speaker 1: just empty chairs where the announcers typically are, which is
Speaker 1: fine because you know in reality they were positioned up
Speaker 1: towards the isleway watching monitors. And then George Steel goes
Speaker 1: to the corner, reacting like a I don't know, like
Speaker 1: an abandoned dog. As Louislbano pats him and caresses him.
Speaker 1: Vince continues calling George Steele the most unpredictable wrestler there is,
Speaker 1: as Iron Cheek and Nikolai Volkoff and Freddy Blassie all
Speaker 1: make their way to Jean's position near the entranceway and
Speaker 1: Jean gets a quick interview. He says, you have obviously
Speaker 1: shunned Orge Steel.
Speaker 2: I got this for you here, all right, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: we're back here.
Speaker 14: I have gonna cry sort all of this out mass confusion,
Speaker 14: just limited Iron Cheek, Nikolai Volkoff obviously sunned, you, obviously
Speaker 14: sunned George, the Animal Steel, whatever the world is going on?
Speaker 2: Crazy the fruitcake. This guy didn't tag when he was
Speaker 2: upposed to. Wait, he is out there the whole thing.
Speaker 14: Oh wait a minute, hold on, couple blue while Paddle
Speaker 14: touched the Animal Steel cut.
Speaker 11: Out by the way, turn my place. I am sorry,
Speaker 11: you out all right, thank you.
Speaker 16: I'm sure that's not the last we'll hear about this
Speaker 16: shocking turn of event.
Speaker 2: Shooking nice ad there.
Speaker 14: I like that.
Speaker 1: And of course you have lou stumbling around the frame
Speaker 1: as Iron Chic and Nikolai Volkoff are standing there screaming
Speaker 1: at the camera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like that. They that. That's also part of
Speaker 2: the problem about having these interviews where they're having them
Speaker 2: is that everybody walks by like, you know, you're causing
Speaker 2: trouble by just standing there. Absolutely you know this, and
Speaker 2: and they don't really follow through with much of the
Speaker 2: conflict in in that part of the arena, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do like the general idea, kind of like a
Speaker 1: sports inspiration of interviewing people right after they do something.
Speaker 1: Newsworthy on the field of play, so to speak. But
Speaker 1: I never understood why they don't just have them in
Speaker 1: the locker room like right, or just have them when
Speaker 1: they come through the curtain, you know, come off step
Speaker 1: to the side. Whenever they do post match interviews, they
Speaker 1: always seem to want to do them right in the
Speaker 1: environment where these guys were just fighting for their lives
Speaker 1: and the guy they were trying to kill is feet
Speaker 1: from them and could attack them again. Just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like good practice. But yeah, here it's especially awkward because
Speaker 1: the baby faces just walk right by where the heels
Speaker 1: are standing and a brawl does not erupt for some reason.
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of that's kind of testy. But this,
Speaker 1: of course leads to George Steele on Tuesday Night Titans
Speaker 1: being brought to a speech therapist for one of their
Speaker 1: infamous skits where Louil Albana was trying to you know,
Speaker 1: basically give George Steele not only speech therapy but a
Speaker 1: bit of if I remember correctly, and didn't they show
Speaker 1: this in one of the Colisseum videos, he gets like
Speaker 1: shock treatment to see if he can stret talking straight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something like that. I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like that'slike most unusual things or whatever, right, which is weird.
Speaker 1: Because he used to actually form sentences as a heel
Speaker 1: when Albano managed him in the seventies on promos. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was a guy that was mute, That
Speaker 1: wasn't really part of his character. He didn't make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense when he opened his mouth, but he
Speaker 1: would say things. It wasn't like George Steele was, you know,
Speaker 1: someone that would just bake grunts and groans. But this
Speaker 1: iteration Rock and Wrestling era George Steele was. We turned
Speaker 1: to his book quickly George Steele to talk about this
Speaker 1: turned out to be a pivotal year for him, a
Speaker 1: pivotal moment for him. As you know, really, when you
Speaker 1: consider the amount of eyeballs looking in on WWF at
Speaker 1: this time period, this is the George Steele they remember.
Speaker 1: This is the George Steele that you know, resonates and
Speaker 1: reverberates even more so than the one that was selling
Speaker 1: out the garden with Bruno. He writes in his book,
Speaker 1: I would soon really be flying high in the WWF
Speaker 1: and it had to do with one of the most
Speaker 1: remarkable transformations. This side of Doctor Frankenstein's Monster. That was
Speaker 1: the moment I went into the ring as one of
Speaker 1: the wildest, most hated heels in the history of professional
Speaker 1: wrestling and emerged from it as a warm and fuzzy
Speaker 1: teddy bear. It was a six man tag team match.
Speaker 1: My team was made up of the hated George, the
Speaker 1: Animal Steel, the villified Iron Cheek, and the despised Nikolai Volkoff.
Speaker 1: Our opponents were the Red, White, and Blue American team
Speaker 1: of Ricky the Dragon, Steamboat Berry Wyndham at Mike Rotundo.
Speaker 1: I wound up getting pinned by Wyndham and during the match,
Speaker 1: the Iron Cheek and Volkoff refused to be tagged by me.
Speaker 1: After the bout, I fought off an attacked by the
Speaker 1: Iron Cheek and Volkoff. Shaken, I had to be consoled
Speaker 1: by Captain Lou Albano. A few moments later, I was
Speaker 1: led from the ring by a sympathetic Captain Lou Geneokrilin
Speaker 1: was conducting an interview near the entrance way with Chikin Volkoff,
Speaker 1: and I decided to throw a few punches at Volkoff
Speaker 1: before going backstage. It was all on Saturday Night's made event.
Speaker 1: The crowd went wild. All of a sudden, I went
Speaker 1: from heel to hero, from bad guy to babyface. It
Speaker 1: was as if I had punched out a mugger trying
Speaker 1: to take Uncle Sam's wallet. It truly was a magical moment.
Speaker 1: And that was when I decided to retire from teaching
Speaker 1: and coaching and become a full time wrestler. I was
Speaker 1: forty eight years old. What it was forty eight.
Speaker 2: When this happened.
Speaker 1: You imagine retiring from your teaching job that you kept
Speaker 1: through your fucking thirties, and people trying to stab you
Speaker 1: at the garden and stuff and all the that didn't
Speaker 1: cause you to consider going full time, But now you're
Speaker 1: going to go full time at this age. He has
Speaker 1: a very unique career trajectory this guy experienced. From then on,
Speaker 1: he writes, George, the animal Steel could do no wrong.
Speaker 1: My conduct in the ring did not change much. I
Speaker 1: would still beat up my opponents. I would rip at
Speaker 1: their arms and tie them up in my autographed flying
Speaker 1: hammer lock. But I'd show my green tongue and eat turnbuckles.
Speaker 1: But instead of being repulsed, the fans ate it up.
Speaker 1: I would still chase referees and announcers. I would throw chairs.
Speaker 1: The fans loved it, a lesson their boss. And what
Speaker 1: makes a great babyface? Yeah, god knows. I don't fucking
Speaker 1: know not to say he's a great babyface. But you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't change what he does. He just starts doing
Speaker 1: it to motherfuckers we hate. Yeah, and now he's our
Speaker 1: bad guy, a real head scratcher, because he says nothing
Speaker 1: in his book about the idea that there was an
Speaker 1: element of improvisation to this baby face turn on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night's main event. But when he spoke to Danny Burke
Speaker 1: Holder at CBS Sports, who wrote an oral history piece
Speaker 1: on WWFN nineteen eighty five. It interviewed George Steele, along
Speaker 1: with many others who were in and around the scene
Speaker 1: at the time. George Steele offers a version of events
Speaker 1: where he didn't even know that he was set to
Speaker 1: turn face on this show until Luel Bano came out.
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: That's what he says. And I have no idea why
Speaker 1: he would say this if it wasn't true, and b
Speaker 1: why he wouldn't say it in his own fucking book
Speaker 1: considering if that was the case, That's the most interesting
Speaker 1: part of the whole story by a mile. But here's
Speaker 1: what he said. When they beat me. The reaction from
Speaker 1: the crowd was unbelievable and out of nowhere, Vince was
Speaker 1: watching what was going on, and he sent Captain Lou
Speaker 1: who had been my manager for many years, back to
Speaker 1: the ring. When he came out, I had no idea
Speaker 1: what to do. I'm looking at him like I'm going
Speaker 1: to fight, and he's kind of wanting to slow me down. Finally,
Speaker 1: just out of nowhere, I dropped on one knee and
Speaker 1: I put my head in his fat belly. He started
Speaker 1: heading my head like I was an animal. The place
Speaker 1: went absolutely crazy nuts. He is the animal, So I
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would be unusual. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know why what he's going for there. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: maybe he's trying to k fab a bit and kind
Speaker 1: of you know, like the character didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: That seems very weird to me, very weird. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: absolutely no way they booked the finish the way they
Speaker 1: did with George Steele being abandoned, unless there was a
Speaker 1: prescribed plan to turn a babyface after the fact, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I find that hard to believe that
Speaker 1: they would do that finish, which perfectly sets up the
Speaker 1: steel babyface turn if they didn't plan on consummating it
Speaker 1: right then and there.
Speaker 2: But who knows.
Speaker 1: Back to the broadcast, Finn says, let's go to ringside
Speaker 1: for what we call Piper's Pit with two of Rustling's
Speaker 1: baddest dudes, and the ring Matt has been replaced with
Speaker 1: a tartan rug and we've got we've got Scottish vibes here, boss, don't.
Speaker 2: We we do? Indeed here, I got this, this, this
Speaker 2: whole segment for you here because it's just it's it's
Speaker 2: pretty wild. I sit down, sit.
Speaker 9: Down, sit down, sit down, sit down, sit down, sit down.
Speaker 9: I want to talk to your man to man. I
Speaker 9: want to talk to your man to man about WrestleMania.
Speaker 9: I want to talk to your man to man about WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: And the house. He does, he like repeats himself so
Speaker 2: many times, it's very odd. Yeah yeah, and he said.
Speaker 2: Then he says the same phrase over and over again.
Speaker 17: Let me tell you something, Ace getting that corner dunce.
Speaker 2: Oo sick burn dunce done. He's like, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? Make my day?
Speaker 11: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait about Bobby. Bobby boy, what damn it?
Speaker 2: Bobby going to the corner. That's would you mind going
Speaker 2: in the corner? Mister Orton? Okay, he's a little afraid.
Speaker 13: He's a little afraid.
Speaker 2: Are you a happy person now? Huh huh.
Speaker 13: I'm not sit down, sit down, ladies first, Okay, okay,
Speaker 13: I'm sitting.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting. Listen.
Speaker 9: I want you to understand, said, I understand what you're
Speaker 9: going through, and I have I feel sorry for you
Speaker 9: in a way because after all, after all, I don't
Speaker 9: know what it's like myself, but you.
Speaker 11: Are a loser.
Speaker 2: It's tide, sid I'm a loser. Huh.
Speaker 9: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Whoamy?
Speaker 2: Was he the rock?
Speaker 1: That's what happened. When he goes out without a script.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna lose himself in the middle of this.
Speaker 2: He really does. Like he sounds like a fucking just
Speaker 2: a complete lunatic out there. You want to talk.
Speaker 21: You wanted to sit down, sit down, sit down, said,
Speaker 21: I'm sitting, Okay, I want to sitting down. Sit down, man,
Speaker 21: sit down? Do you want to talk about WrestleMania?
Speaker 2: Sit down? Sit down.
Speaker 9: Let's face facts, man, I ain't no loser in WrestleMania.
Speaker 9: It wasn't my shoulders that were pined to the ground.
Speaker 9: It was your shoulders. You're sitting here being a big shot.
Speaker 9: It was your shoulders that were penned to the ground.
Speaker 2: Brother, not me. Well, let me tell you something right now, Piper.
Speaker 2: Where were you at when it was all over and
Speaker 2: done with?
Speaker 7: Huh?
Speaker 2: Where were you at? I was doing my job?
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, he was doing your job, hot tailor that
Speaker 17: back to the dressing room, and you left me there.
Speaker 21: Molonely baloney, No, no, I was fighting to you. I
Speaker 21: was fighting hog. I was fighting everybody, everybody that wants
Speaker 21: to fight.
Speaker 17: You know.
Speaker 9: You know what's who was doing. You know what's happened
Speaker 9: to you? Man, I'll tell you what happened to you.
Speaker 9: You lost your guts, man, that's what I think. Hey,
Speaker 9: I picked you for a partner. I cook you under
Speaker 9: my wing. You lost your guts, brother, and you tell
Speaker 9: me you didn't.
Speaker 17: Let me tell you something, Piper. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 17: what you've been doing. You've been drinking too much of
Speaker 17: your own bathwater. It's what you've been doing.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. What what does that mean. I've never heard
Speaker 2: that phrase before drinking your own bathwater? I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't really understand what he means. What does that? What
Speaker 2: does that do if you drink your own bathwater?
Speaker 16: What?
Speaker 2: I don't understand. But I mean maybe it's like a
Speaker 2: version of believing your own shit. I mean, but just
Speaker 2: say believe, you know, drinking your own kool aid or whatever, like,
Speaker 2: don't listen, listen you want to like, why would I
Speaker 2: want to drink my dirty water?
Speaker 14: You know?
Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. Like it's like that's there's
Speaker 2: nothing pleasurable about that. It seems like I'm looking it
Speaker 2: up here. It seems to be a phrase that kind
Speaker 2: of implies that someone is excessively self congratulatory, like they're
Speaker 2: so full of their own shit that like they drink
Speaker 2: their own bath water because they think they're so amazing
Speaker 2: that even their bath water is drinkable, you know, like
Speaker 2: they can't even contaminate their own bath because they're so
Speaker 2: fucking awesome. Okay, all right, I guess I guess you
Speaker 2: want me to tell you. You want me to tell
Speaker 2: you on the square?
Speaker 17: Man, you want me to tell you something.
Speaker 2: On the square? I think you're nothing but a piece
Speaker 2: of garbage. Man, No, no, you're hey.
Speaker 9: You want to fight, I slap you just as fast
Speaker 9: as you slap me. Let me tell you something, man,
Speaker 9: you're nothing about.
Speaker 21: A piece of garbage. Not only did you embarrass me?
Speaker 21: Did you embarrass ace? You embarrass your own family. You
Speaker 21: keep my family out of that. You'll start a dumb
Speaker 21: sign it up? What Wait, if that's the way you're
Speaker 21: gonna be, If that's the way you're gonna be by
Speaker 21: the I'm gonna take my ball and I'm leaving to
Speaker 21: heck with you.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 22: Oh no, oh no, oh no, but paper look at pass.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, he's coming.
Speaker 11: To the purper.
Speaker 2: Shut him up for the pow timer huts him up.
Speaker 11: Hold a minute, persees from behind of the cast. Papa,
Speaker 11: he's just waiting. Oh my god, he look.
Speaker 2: Away.
Speaker 22: Wait, mister, tell you what por not?
Speaker 8: Silly?
Speaker 2: Papa? Cast You can say that again. Yeah, I'd say
Speaker 2: most people get NOx silly from the cast. I do
Speaker 2: something like that was coming at some point. Uh.
Speaker 1: You should know that Paula or Dwarf is worried. The
Speaker 1: brightest white daisy dukes you've ever seen on a man.
Speaker 1: I know these tall athletic socks pulled way up in
Speaker 1: white sneakers.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, what a weird what a weird
Speaker 2: look for men in the eighties, I know, fucking short short,
Speaker 2: the booty shorts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially, you know, the winner for most nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five dressed goes to him, and second is mister T
Speaker 1: with the tight blue pants with the three Adidas white
Speaker 1: stripes up the side.
Speaker 3: It's the lapt fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that
Speaker 3: knows the boys need their candy. It's the lampsed Fan.
Speaker 3: He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno,
Speaker 3: MJP Sorrow, just.
Speaker 2: Just wild.
Speaker 1: Piper has his director's chair in the middle of the
Speaker 1: ring too, by the way, for this production. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's it's big time finger pointing over what happened
Speaker 1: at WrestleMania leading to the face turn there of Paula
Speaker 1: Worndorf and put on a platform, you know, the biggest
Speaker 1: one they could muster at the time here in NBC,
Speaker 1: no doubt, to create a bankable number two baby face
Speaker 1: in Mister Wonderful and he does an okay job. It's
Speaker 1: kind of meandering and kind of weird, but it happens,
Speaker 1: and and you heard the whole thing there courtesy of
Speaker 1: the boss.
Speaker 2: So that's good. Yeah, let's see, so.
Speaker 1: Paull and Dorff spills out to the concrete because Paul
Speaker 1: and Droff starts pulling Piper around by the hair and
Speaker 1: going for the pile driver. But you know what happens,
Speaker 1: Ace bob Orton claps his hands together and close lines
Speaker 1: Pollow and Dwarf. Of course it doesn't just close line
Speaker 1: and he claps first, so that sense a Pollow Dwarfs
Speaker 1: spilling to the concrete. You hear a loud noise at
Speaker 1: this juncture, almost like a beer pong ball hitting something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's audio bleeding in from somewhere else. Mister T now
Speaker 1: runs out with his weightlifting thing, tending to Pollow and
Speaker 1: Dwarf his weightlifting a outfit no Hogan, though Hogan does
Speaker 1: not come out to help mister Pollow Dwarf at all.
Speaker 1: Only mister T and Vince says that Polo and Dwarf
Speaker 1: has Piper up in that special pile driver. Special pile
Speaker 1: driver isn't that what they called it when George Steele
Speaker 1: did it? Everyone standing and uniform security and brown flooding
Speaker 1: Ringside apparently just came off the shift at UPS.
Speaker 2: Yes, and did you see it?
Speaker 1: I saw it, Mel Phillips Ringside occasionally laboring, and hey,
Speaker 1: I gotta say Tom Cole was from around Long Island.
Speaker 1: You do have to you do have to take a
Speaker 1: moment to consider that there may have been a fuck
Speaker 1: room keys exchange just the ring was being set up.
Speaker 2: Huh not okay? Not okay, is correct.
Speaker 1: So this is also when Tony Chimmel would be part
Speaker 1: of the ring crew when they'd come to New Jersey,
Speaker 1: New York e last time. Yeah, do you remember one
Speaker 1: of the Colosseum videos We spotted him ringside before he
Speaker 1: was a ring announcer, just kid, I do, I do
Speaker 1: vaguely he was friends with friends with Tom Cole. He
Speaker 1: was friends with somebody who WWF would turn two to
Speaker 1: set up rings and get those kind of logistical things
Speaker 1: down when they'd come to the Tri State area, and
Speaker 1: that was really his entre. That's how he first got
Speaker 1: into a w F building as a kid helping set
Speaker 1: up the ring, not as a ring announcer. So what
Speaker 1: mean genius with Hulk who's got the White American Band?
Speaker 2: And we go from there he goes in. Uh Jean says, uh,
Speaker 2: says this here all right, I thank you very much.
Speaker 14: Vince McMath Hulk Hogan, Hulk Hogan, you have just seen
Speaker 14: what has happened and rowdy rot Piper's pit.
Speaker 19: Well, you know something, mean Jean, that's all went down
Speaker 19: in Piper's pit. Brother, this is just typical in the
Speaker 19: kind of dudes we need to get out of the
Speaker 19: wwe I'm just so happy, man. You know, it's Mother's
Speaker 19: Day coming up real soon because I got a special surprise.
Speaker 19: This is gonna be a special for my mother.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 12: Brother.
Speaker 2: What what mother? Mother? Mother? Brother what? That's what he says.
Speaker 2: I who's who's brother? What's going on?
Speaker 19: And I can't think of anybody else I'd rather get
Speaker 19: in the ring than cowboy Bob Orton, the dude with
Speaker 19: the bust it up arm.
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna see how bad it is tonight,
Speaker 2: mean Jean.
Speaker 11: All right.
Speaker 14: On the subject of Paul Orndorf, I'm very curious to
Speaker 14: get your reaction to his big trains.
Speaker 2: Over the past few weeks.
Speaker 19: Well, you know it's funny, mean Jean, the dude who
Speaker 19: was going around for so long busting people up. Man,
Speaker 19: and all of a sudden he felt what it was
Speaker 19: like inside to have some people behind him.
Speaker 14: What ah.
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Who wrote this? Dude? Dick ever saw wrote it? Terry?
Speaker 2: Who's behind bro? What do you mean behind me?
Speaker 11: Dude?
Speaker 14: Yo?
Speaker 2: Yo? Cut brother, Dick comm here, dude, command no, no,
Speaker 2: but why no? We're alive, hug what we were live for?
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Dude? We're We're on tape. Who's something the air until tomorrow?
Speaker 12: Brother?
Speaker 2: I know it's not Saturday night? Dude? Wait a minute?
Speaker 2: Is this? Are we sure on Saturday night? Dude? Wait
Speaker 2: a minute? Is it Friday nights? Made a man?
Speaker 17: Is it?
Speaker 2: Wait? What?
Speaker 1: And then like he looks at the camera. He looked
Speaker 1: at the camera frozen, like, am I actually live to
Speaker 1: the whole country right now? Leap your brother right, leap
Speaker 1: frog here and all these whole comaniacs out here, brother,
Speaker 1: they get behind me? The behind me dude again again,
Speaker 1: he says it again, but get behind the dude. I
Speaker 1: see a total change of hearder than dude.
Speaker 22: Man.
Speaker 2: I wish him the best and I just hope he
Speaker 2: keeps it up. If you dig it, I can dig it?
Speaker 14: Howboy pop work in the cast, Dolly arm A title
Speaker 14: offense for you.
Speaker 12: I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Well, what he's gonna do, White Holster. Holster runs wild
Speaker 2: on you. Daddy, he said, Daddy, Daddy, should you say mommy?
Speaker 2: It's mother father's He says, daddy. I thought it was
Speaker 2: more of a ruth than a pall night. I know, right.
Speaker 1: I guess we're tipping our cap to the pipe fitter
Speaker 1: as well as the home the home maker.
Speaker 2: I guess here, Terry.
Speaker 1: You know, that's one thing Hulk always had in common
Speaker 1: with his mother. His mother was a homemaker, and Terry
Speaker 1: was a housemaker. Just look at the fucking crowd here.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the house.
Speaker 2: It was a house builder. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: So yeah, great promo there, just very typical of the era.
Speaker 1: And and it's all there and his eyes shift off
Speaker 1: frame just very quickly. As he's wrapping up the promof
Speaker 1: he watch Hulk's eyes.
Speaker 2: He's talking about a lot of people coming behind a
Speaker 2: lot of people coming from behind in that he was
Speaker 2: very nervous. He's realizing mid stream that this thing could
Speaker 2: be a setup, and his eyes start getting active. Johnny
Speaker 2: Weaver eyes going on there.
Speaker 1: I just have to picture, you know, the bright light
Speaker 1: on Hogan as he's cutting this back, cutting that out there,
Speaker 1: and Dick ever saw right behind the camera with his
Speaker 1: arms folded, you know, with like a clipboard in his hand,
Speaker 1: like producing so to speak.
Speaker 2: Yes, the head set on and like just shaking his head.
Speaker 2: What are you shaking his head for?
Speaker 20: What?
Speaker 2: At the hinds of the high sign? Brother, we are,
Speaker 2: we are, we are, we live? What's going on? Bro?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 15: I do?
Speaker 1: I am kind of falling in love with this idea
Speaker 1: that like Hulk gets the bug in his ear that
Speaker 1: this is actually live and no one tells him, and
Speaker 1: like all the TVs in the arena have been like
Speaker 1: purposely gimmicked to not show the thing. If he tries
Speaker 1: to check for himself, that's pretty fine. It's Friday night's
Speaker 1: main event, brother, or.
Speaker 2: Just someone told him someone woke up. It's like he
Speaker 2: doesn't realize that that that, you know, he thinks somebody
Speaker 2: someone woke him up on Saturday. They skipped the.
Speaker 1: Day, gets the building hit Dick, come on and brother, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll look said about to night. It's a big night, Dick.
Speaker 1: Are you can you guarantee me one hundred percent looking
Speaker 1: in the eyes and tell me this isn't going to
Speaker 1: be live ten on on NBC.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's gonna be an essence Live the tape
Speaker 2: not the answer I was looking for. Brother, tap You're
Speaker 2: going to make me ask you what that means? Dude? Wow, listen,
Speaker 2: I mean live the tapew You know it's pretty self explanatory.
Speaker 2: You're not going to say anything else. I mean, do
Speaker 2: I need to? I mean everyone else understands. Why don't you, Terry.
Speaker 1: I know you're new to the real TV business here,
Speaker 1: but you really ought to know what live to tape means?
Speaker 2: By now what do you what do you mean real TV?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 15: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be like? Are filming now? Because I'm
Speaker 2: taping up right now? Is this live to tape? I
Speaker 2: mean I got taped?
Speaker 3: Is this like?
Speaker 2: Are you feeling me taping my wrist? Brother? What are you?
Speaker 2: What's your purpose? Do there are there cameras in here? Dude? Wait?
Speaker 2: Are you filming me? Now? Brother?
Speaker 17: What is that?
Speaker 2: That's a trash can? Terry? No, but what's inside? Okay,
Speaker 2: forget what's inside the trash can? Forget it? So why
Speaker 2: why do you tell me to forget it?
Speaker 17: Brother?
Speaker 2: Are we doing this again.
Speaker 1: We live, Dick, tell me the truth, brother, this is
Speaker 1: not going to be the start of a fruitful, mutually
Speaker 1: beneficial relationship if we can't trust trust each other.
Speaker 2: Dude, Listen, listen, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be blunt
Speaker 2: with you, Terry. The relationship is in between you and me,
Speaker 2: between me and Vince McMahon. Brother. WHOA. So you're saying
Speaker 2: this is live, dude? You so I'm live right now.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're broadcasting me right now, dude, to millions
Speaker 2: of people around the world.
Speaker 1: And you know what happens at this point, boss. We
Speaker 1: get the full frontal final scene with the big zoom
Speaker 1: out and we realize it's all a stage, and sitting
Speaker 1: in the director's chair is Ed Harris himself.
Speaker 2: Don't walk through that door, Terry, No worry about that, brother.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I'll walk through it, but I'll test it
Speaker 1: for heat, just like Joe peshe.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So we pitched to the ring after that promo and
Speaker 1: Piper and bob Orton are still in there. The rug
Speaker 1: has been taken out from the Piper's pit set. The
Speaker 1: Challenger ace cowboy bob Orton is introduced and they hit
Speaker 1: real American on the peacock version, of course, I of
Speaker 1: the Tiger in the moment, and there's some fist bumps.
Speaker 2: And Bob Orton as usual being played by Gene Hackman.
Speaker 2: Say it again, I said, Bob Orton as usual being
Speaker 2: played by Gene Hackman.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely doesn't take long to cast that role. Pun
Speaker 1: intended by the way, so Hogan makes the walk steps out.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the whole Cogan from a print
Speaker 1: ad for Colisseum home video, is it not?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah, this is it. This is the whole
Speaker 2: Cogan of the period of the era.
Speaker 1: Holding his hands up, slapping hands, pumping his finger up
Speaker 1: on the way down the aisle. That's again very tight,
Speaker 1: and it's being slapped by all these whole Camaniacs, hands everywhere,
Speaker 1: trying to touch the hulkster and they play Eye of
Speaker 1: the Tiger. And if that's how God intended it to sound,
Speaker 1: we feel obliged to share it with you. This is
Speaker 1: how it should sound, and this is how it did
Speaker 1: sound on the night.
Speaker 11: Eight elbow. Oh come, this is a poet.
Speaker 2: Let it meets come up.
Speaker 17: No real fee pounds.
Speaker 11: Oh world looks like federation.
Speaker 22: Tell me, wait to tell me Hoo Hooker's pay d
Speaker 22: me le track hook Hoger makes your head trip for
Speaker 22: the time the world last week. But Ala said, chuck
Speaker 22: it up three hundred two pounds. I know what trouble
Speaker 22: that pot on the bank.
Speaker 11: Truck?
Speaker 14: What like run.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, boss, but I'm staying tune
Speaker 1: past that commercial break.
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, you know you hear people going that
Speaker 2: crazy for somebody you can't help, but want to.
Speaker 1: Watch fade in Vince. It's electric three hundred two pounds
Speaker 1: Hogan on the apron with the pointing and you know
Speaker 1: how it goes, tosses the headband and starts bouncing around.
Speaker 1: Someone has the headband that Hulk Hogan wore to the
Speaker 1: ring on the first Saturday Nights made event think about that. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's a keepsake. Yep, Hogan Hot. Watch them like they
Speaker 1: just threw it away.
Speaker 2: Oh totally, you know, Oh it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Hull Cogan through this to me and they just like
Speaker 1: throws it on a coffee table and eventually it gets
Speaker 1: brushed off by like, you know, a plate of food,
Speaker 1: and then it gets under the couch and no one
Speaker 1: sees it until they move out, and then they throw
Speaker 1: it in the fire. Ah, they go the extra bio.
Speaker 1: There's too much clutter in here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna start throwing shit in the fire. Fucking guts.
Speaker 1: It's a normal guy, of course, that's the guy who
Speaker 1: caught the fucking headband. Mister, we gotta throw things in
Speaker 1: the fire of all the.
Speaker 2: People, Well, my house is too clutter. We just throw
Speaker 2: shit in the fire.
Speaker 1: Just landed in the hand of somebody had an apartment
Speaker 1: and didn't have a fucking fireplace. Do we have to
Speaker 1: get a pyromaniac to catch the damn thing?
Speaker 2: Listen, everyone in the house, you take twelve things and
Speaker 2: we're gonna put in the fire. I don't care what
Speaker 2: it is. We're getting rid of shit. It's like the houses.
Speaker 1: The fucking headband is in in the air in Nasau
Speaker 1: Coliseum and this guy jumps and fights valiantly to break
Speaker 1: it from the clutches of the guy next to him.
Speaker 2: What the fuck, man, he goes, I got a light
Speaker 2: of fire with it. This is where my fireplace data,
Speaker 2: that's my fireplace. What do you mean the mantle?
Speaker 7: What a burnet?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna burn This fucking basic guy really doesn't like
Speaker 2: Hulk Cogan. Huh.
Speaker 20: It's like that.
Speaker 2: I don't even think that guy even knows whul Cogan is.
Speaker 2: And I have to listen to him. I mean, why
Speaker 2: are you here? Don't ask me questions. I I'm here
Speaker 2: because I deserve to be the.
Speaker 1: Guy, the guy who goes to live arena events, wrestling.
Speaker 1: He goes to everything for the express purpose of catching
Speaker 1: something that he can take home and throw in the.
Speaker 2: Fireplace, because ify bringing it home, he cluttered his house
Speaker 2: too much. You better throw better burn it right away.
Speaker 2: They call him fire Boy or fire Lloyd, maybe fire Lloyd.
Speaker 1: So Hogan hopping around, beating his chest, building up the anticipation,
Speaker 1: cups his ear to a series of flash bulbs, and
Speaker 1: there was a bit of did.
Speaker 2: You notice did you notice that the one of the
Speaker 2: hard camera I think that the close up hard care splatter,
Speaker 2: the little fucking red splotches, like like blood.
Speaker 1: It's like one little red dot that they've got on
Speaker 1: the lens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it looks like like that that blood splotch,
Speaker 2: that that that animated blood splotch in in Earthquake, You remember,
Speaker 2: I remember that at all. But it's like this obnoxious
Speaker 2: blood that just goes into the screen. That's so fake
Speaker 2: an earthquake.
Speaker 1: The only the only concealed blood I remember from Earthquake
Speaker 1: was when he said on the snake. But it's noticeable
Speaker 1: because the blood splatter is right where Hogan's hand is
Speaker 1: when he cups the ear.
Speaker 2: Right exactly can miss it. So they it's very like,
Speaker 2: I'm curious. I mean, it must have been some kind
Speaker 2: of a lens issue, because, like you know, there's no
Speaker 2: way blood fucking made its way to one of the
Speaker 2: hard cameras. It's too far away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd be willing to bet it's just some
Speaker 1: colored distortion or something.
Speaker 2: Boss.
Speaker 1: I'd vote you to consider this because it strikes me
Speaker 1: that this is the heart of the whole thing. I've
Speaker 1: telled this story before. The only time I remember as
Speaker 1: a kid staying up for Saturday Night's made event, I
Speaker 1: dozed off on the living room floor before probably an
Speaker 1: hour before it even was to start, and I woke
Speaker 1: up in like this this haze because wrestling was on
Speaker 1: the TV, but I'd already been out for an hour
Speaker 1: or two, and I was Yeah, I remember seeing like
Speaker 1: an event center set with Rick Martel there. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was, but it was it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking going to bed like it's on. It's on
Speaker 1: this late, this is insane. But I do invite you
Speaker 1: to consider being the whole camaniac you had become. Just
Speaker 1: rewinded a bit. Consider yourself. You know, eight years older
Speaker 1: than you are, and here you are Peak Hall Camania
Speaker 1: on May eleventh, nineteen eighty five, and you've convinced your
Speaker 1: parents to be able to stay up and you're parked
Speaker 1: in front of the television set. How agonizing is this
Speaker 1: commercial break? Oh, between Hull Cogan's entrance and his match.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's It's the worst. It's the absolute fucking worst.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I don't know what time that February
Speaker 2: ninety two, Saturday's main event came on. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: what time that came on. All I know is that
Speaker 2: there was no fucking way I was missing it. And
Speaker 2: I remember being that excited for hul Cogan then being
Speaker 2: a fan of Hull Cogan in eighty five. At this point,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can imagine my heart would have been
Speaker 2: racing the entire time, and I would have just been
Speaker 2: like I probably actually, honestly, I would have ignored that
Speaker 2: that commercial break and I would just been like come on,
Speaker 2: come on, Yeah, you wouldn even watch the TV. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd be I'd be pacing around the pacing around the
Speaker 2: room like I would do at the end of every
Speaker 2: Royal Rumble match. Oh when I was young. What a
Speaker 2: moment that is? Huh, always fucking like pacing around like
Speaker 2: just what's you know even even any any of them?
Speaker 2: Any of them. I'm my heart is racing for a
Speaker 2: baby Face win at a Royal Rumbles down a four.
Speaker 1: It's down a four, yep. So when we do come
Speaker 1: back to and Hogan ripping each other's shirts off, that's
Speaker 1: kind of weird. And Vince certainly excited at the visual
Speaker 1: Hulk and Tea conferencing a bit. And here it is
Speaker 1: for the WWF Championship Hulk Hogan to defend against Cowboy
Speaker 1: Bob Orton at Saturday Nights made of Van Orton with
Speaker 1: the stirrups still on before meeting Hogan in the center,
Speaker 1: and Jesse sees nothing controversial about that arm cast on.
Speaker 2: Bob certainly not again like I mentioned before, like the
Speaker 2: fact that he's medically clear to compete despite having a
Speaker 2: broken limb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your issue is with the commission, not Bob.
Speaker 2: Orton. Yes, not Bob Borton itself. My issue is with
Speaker 2: the commission who allowed him to wrestle, right the.
Speaker 1: New York State Boxing Commission did apparently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they need to be you know there, I
Speaker 2: think an investigation needs to be uh needs to happen.
Speaker 1: So after they come to the center for the quick
Speaker 1: face off, Hulk turns around to retreat to his corner,
Speaker 1: and you better believe that that creates the you know
Speaker 1: what describe with his stirrups on and or whatever you
Speaker 1: call those fucking numb and the chaps he has on.
Speaker 2: The commission reminds me of the Central Park Rangers. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know there are antics at the side of the
Speaker 2: garment a Garfunckle Ah. Same thing with the fucking commission
Speaker 2: here in bob Orton tremendous. So it's Bob bob Orton
Speaker 2: tries to pearl Harbor job Hulk Hogan. Hulk cuts him
Speaker 2: off and dodges off and has a throat throat thrust
Speaker 2: and a big right hand, and bob Orton starts retreating
Speaker 2: and then Hulk goes right out after him back in
Speaker 2: the ring and bob Orton comes off the ropes over
Speaker 2: the top and Hulk Hogan with a back body drop,
Speaker 2: and you better believe Vince calls it like that. Oh
Speaker 2: he does back body drop.
Speaker 1: And then he catches Bob Orton with a couple of
Speaker 1: body slams and Jesse just goes into panic mode gets
Speaker 1: get out of that ring.
Speaker 2: Bob just great. Now did anyone did anybody think that
Speaker 2: Bob Orton had a chance in hell it winning the title?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't, as we talked about, they didn't
Speaker 1: spend any time even trying to get you consider the possibility.
Speaker 1: You barely even knew the match was going to happen,
Speaker 1: let alone. You know, you know how they can do
Speaker 1: little things to make you think that they're actually setting
Speaker 1: him up to win in the TV ahead of the show.
Speaker 1: They didn't do anything like that. You didn't hear from
Speaker 1: him nothing. So no, I really don't think so. Well,
Speaker 1: there probably was one Bob Arton fans like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, please, probably little little Randy, Yeah right, yeah, Little
Speaker 2: Randy wanted it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then a third body slam by Hulk and
Speaker 1: they're on fire. Orton bails, Piper consoles him, Jesse praises
Speaker 1: Orton for bailings as excellent move regrouping with Roddy start over.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's what you gotta do sometimes. Sometimes you got
Speaker 2: to work that brain. Let the gears start going, and
Speaker 2: then you go outside, take a breather, take a breather,
Speaker 2: take some time to regroup, and then you come back
Speaker 2: in and you lay him out.
Speaker 1: Jesse's however, you have to do right. Jesse's the youth
Speaker 1: basketball coach who screams reset every fourteen seconds. He does
Speaker 1: loves to see a reset, and Bob Orton gives it
Speaker 1: to him here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just like Vince McMahon in two thousand and
Speaker 2: two on Raw, always resetting. That's good. We're gonna give
Speaker 2: you more of what you want, less of what you know.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you less of what you want, more
Speaker 2: of what you think you want, and a lot more
Speaker 2: of what I need, what I need. Give you a
Speaker 2: lot less of what you want and a lot more porn.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you less of what you want and
Speaker 2: a lot more live sex on television.
Speaker 1: Everybody's all talking about you know if Vince, because word
Speaker 1: is out that Vince wants to more than anything clear
Speaker 1: up this legal issue he has so that he can
Speaker 1: you know, start a new company in the entertainment space.
Speaker 1: It's gotten out that him and Kevin Dunn are still
Speaker 1: in regular communication about standing up a business, not necessarily
Speaker 1: in pro wrestling, but something entertainment related. Have we not
Speaker 1: spent an time considering the possibility that, after this pattern
Speaker 1: of allegations, that Vince McMahon might start a porn company?
Speaker 2: I mean that or listen, I'm I'm I'm not convinced
Speaker 2: that that Trump will make a fucking executive order demanding
Speaker 2: that Vince McMahon be in charge of t KO. President's
Speaker 2: going to decide who runs this company? Thank you, I
Speaker 2: have not, I have not put it past you know
Speaker 2: that that to me, that is a very likely thing.
Speaker 1: Or maybe to Trump the whole thing upon the pun brother.
Speaker 1: Trump is issues at declaration that there will now be
Speaker 1: a federal government run and created wrestling company, the official
Speaker 1: pro wrestling Organization of the United States Government, Wrestling, USA
Speaker 1: Wrestling or something.
Speaker 2: The American Wrestling Association.
Speaker 1: Hey do than awf right? And then just like he
Speaker 1: turns it over to Vince and it's just back to
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. It's like these, yeah, all American baby
Speaker 1: faces beaten up on foreign menaces, you know, slightly updated
Speaker 1: the foreign menaces are, uh you know, it would.
Speaker 2: Well, it would be what Mexicans and Canadians.
Speaker 1: Venezuelans and Ranny and still the stuffing for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do the Russian heel thing anymore for
Speaker 1: some reason.
Speaker 2: No, actually Russian baby face. Honestly, that's what would have
Speaker 2: to be. Cranian heel. Yeah, oh absolutely, saying absolutely Cuba heel.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And it's just like, oh, well, actually,
Speaker 2: you know what it would be. It would actually be.
Speaker 2: It'd be it'd be actually, forget international, it would be
Speaker 2: domestic enemies liberal conservative like liberals would be the heels. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would be total heels, all right, and a stable
Speaker 2: of woke like yeah exactly, you know, exactly trying to legislate.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Anyway, so hey, I think I think
Speaker 2: that would be I think I think in Trump's mind
Speaker 2: that would be like the greatest accomplishment he ever made.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a ring calcorated like Great American Bash eighty
Speaker 1: nine with like the bunting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it's on the White House lawn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly where they do the Easter egg
Speaker 2: roll or or or like right in front of the Capitol,
Speaker 2: and it becomes like a where they have inauguration, like
Speaker 2: where they have that, that's where they have these matches.
Speaker 1: It becomes like a maga thing to go to these
Speaker 1: matches and then cheer like it's nineteen eighty five again,
Speaker 1: just make me They can see it working.
Speaker 2: Working is the wrong work. Yeah, I can see it
Speaker 2: being like a thing like you know, and what they
Speaker 2: what they would do is they'd have, you know, to
Speaker 2: make it seem like a bigger crowd. They would have
Speaker 2: everyone on one side and they just never shoot behind them. Sure,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, the whole.
Speaker 1: Point is not even a draw crowd. It's too no
Speaker 1: recollect what what America was like?
Speaker 2: What it was great? You know, right exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So then Barry Orton slithers back into the ring. He's
Speaker 1: now pantless, Bob, Bob, Bob said, Barry, Oh, Barry Orton,
Speaker 1: that's definitely, that's definitely because I mentioned no Phillips before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I can think about it as you know, guys getting
Speaker 1: jerked off against their will on the highway, you know,
Speaker 1: on the way to the next town. So Barry, if
Speaker 1: you didn't if you didn't want it, then why did
Speaker 1: you come all over the back seat? I got evidence
Speaker 1: to the contrary, mister.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mister, I really I really don't think that
Speaker 2: this is appropriate for the workplace. Oh my god, taking
Speaker 2: into the business.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you in pat batters in his capable
Speaker 1: hands barely and we'll see what happens. Now, that's so
Speaker 1: is so unfair to him, right, of course, that's just
Speaker 1: there's no there's no fire to that smoke. So yes,
Speaker 1: Bob Orton, thank you. Slither's back in nursing his lower back,
Speaker 1: and Vince says he hurt us back, did he?
Speaker 2: Yes? So, Jesse says, Bob Doctor's been to fucking check
Speaker 2: this guy out, honestly, because he's like broken all over.
Speaker 1: Falling apart, he said, hooked on painkillers, as we found out,
Speaker 1: and now he's started mixing with alcohol because they're not
Speaker 1: working anymore. Jesse says that Bob Orton is a wily veteran,
Speaker 1: and he also has the super plex.
Speaker 2: Super because he's lists fucking Orton's tools. This match is
Speaker 2: fire from over.
Speaker 12: Hokan may have gotten the start, but Bob Orton is
Speaker 12: a wily veteran and he also has the super plaques.
Speaker 1: Thanks Vince, so ortons the gut and whips him in
Speaker 1: the corner. Hogan side steps and bob Orton eats the
Speaker 1: ring post paper. Piper is face palming at ringsided Orton
Speaker 1: coming up short at every uh, at every juncture. And
Speaker 1: then hul Cogan twists the bad arm of bob Orton
Speaker 1: and starts elbowing the cast. The cast at arm, mister
Speaker 1: t urging on hul coganin's he goes to work. Vince screams,
Speaker 1: the cast being tested, say that again, always always, That's right,
Speaker 1: We're always passing. Is't that interesting?
Speaker 5: M m?
Speaker 2: Hogan?
Speaker 1: Now biting and that is all Jesse needs. So I
Speaker 1: kind of I was a little wrong in saying Jesse
Speaker 1: had yet to find the blame the babyface for untoward
Speaker 1: conduct side of his personality. He definitely brings it here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets it and goes off. He goes right there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's great.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the champions biting Vince McMahon and Vince goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not too sure about that. He goes, what because
Speaker 1: Vince has nothing to say?
Speaker 2: Oh, and I know nothing. There is nothing better. There
Speaker 2: is nothing better than when Vince McMahon gets caught and
Speaker 2: does not know what to say or how to respond,
Speaker 2: and you know, and so he just kind of has
Speaker 2: to just say something and it drives people crazy.
Speaker 1: It's amazing and increasingly as the year's turn, you can
Speaker 1: tell Jesse just absolutely delights in putting Vince in that
Speaker 1: position for sure, in particular absolutely and how great was
Speaker 1: it when they did Saturday Night's Made event in December
Speaker 1: and he left Michael Cole and Pat McAfee speechless when
Speaker 1: he saw Rhodes was the one who used the chair.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I mean, Jesse's saying that didn't
Speaker 1: make it to any of the highlight clip packages they
Speaker 1: put together after the fact, we're capp what happened they
Speaker 1: left that out.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of disappointed in them for not taking
Speaker 2: advantage of everything that he was saying. Absolutely like they
Speaker 2: they like, I mean, I'm sure that they were horrified
Speaker 2: as to the fact that he's not following the script,
Speaker 2: if you will, But like his was the best stuff
Speaker 2: on there. It's the only thing I enjoyed. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, that was A commentary can add so much,
Speaker 1: and it's supposed to add to the companies just insist
Speaker 1: on making it as anadyne as possible, you know, they
Speaker 1: insist on making it just like the directors of marketing
Speaker 1: are sitting in those chairs instead of you know, former
Speaker 1: pros who have seen it all and know the bullshit
Speaker 1: when they see it, and we'll call it out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or just guys who can just
Speaker 1: like Jesse just he created this whole, these these character arcs.
Speaker 1: He created these character sketches for these heels that really
Speaker 1: gave you something to latch onto if you wanted to
Speaker 1: believe that these guys became heels for a reason, that
Speaker 1: they assessed the landscape and said, you know what, it
Speaker 1: doesn't pay to be a good guy. And here's the
Speaker 1: I'm better off breaking the rules exactly exactly. So, yes,
Speaker 1: we have we have the champion biting for a moment.
Speaker 1: Hogan goes out to the apron and wrenches the arm
Speaker 1: down across the top rope of Orton.
Speaker 2: And then are they bringing Jesse back for the next one?
Speaker 2: That's the word.
Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, he expects to be on all the Saturday
Speaker 1: nights made events. Maybe they'll use it differently, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the plan. Indeed, over to the post.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, God, good for him for fucking still
Speaker 2: having it, you know, like you know, you get that
Speaker 2: you still got it chant. He deserved that more than
Speaker 2: anybody else that I've seen, except for Ricky Steamboat maybe
Speaker 2: in two thousand and whatever. Nine. Yes, honest to God,
Speaker 2: the fact that he went in out there and just
Speaker 2: was didn't even skip a beat. It's like he'd always
Speaker 2: been there.
Speaker 1: Remarkable. Yeah, remarkable too that his stick still works today.
Speaker 1: You know, it still like insists upon itself because it
Speaker 1: just makes and that's why it used to be better too.
Speaker 1: It just makes the viewing experience so much engaging. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he always had it. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: when he went to WCW that it wasn't a poor
Speaker 1: facsimile of it. The thing Jesse was good at, too,
Speaker 1: is he was good at not trying, but being able
Speaker 1: to mask the fact that he wasn't trying as like ignorants,
Speaker 1: you know, like oh I don't know these guys, or
Speaker 1: I don't know what was happening, or you know, he knew,
Speaker 1: he knew how to make a wrestling broadcast much more
Speaker 1: interesting if he wanted to. He just didn't always want
Speaker 1: to because he was always throwing these hissy fits about
Speaker 1: his contract and Barry Bloom and all this shit. So
Speaker 1: especially in WCW where he wrote his own check until
Speaker 1: Hogan showed up and he knew that was coming and
Speaker 1: he better believe he's fucking gone when the Holkster came
Speaker 1: from WSW. So it's all fascinating to see that play out.
Speaker 2: But man, is this great?
Speaker 1: So Hogan, after the apron again wrenches Bob Orton's arm
Speaker 1: down on the rope and then over to the ring post.
Speaker 1: No blue ring steps yet, Boss, just a wooden step ladder.
Speaker 2: That's so weird. I don't like it. Well, of course not.
Speaker 2: I mean the the the blue ring steps are.
Speaker 1: Iconic, hugely important to steal ones. But we do have
Speaker 1: red white blue ropes of course in navy turnbuckle pads.
Speaker 1: Jesse says this is the most vicious he's ever seen.
Speaker 1: Hulk in the ring as they go back in and
Speaker 1: Orton whips and hits basically a Besichu knee to the
Speaker 1: face of Holggan where he got that from, But he
Speaker 1: takes Hogan off his feet with it. Orton of stomping
Speaker 1: away in the Hulkster a headlocks small shots being tucked
Speaker 1: in by the cowboy. Hogan falls on the middle strand
Speaker 1: of ropes. Jesse says, on the middle strand of rope. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm calling him strands.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, Orton with hey, I like the strands,
Speaker 2: big fan of strands. Not a detriment, not at all.
Speaker 1: Orton with the big atomic drop that gets to and
Speaker 1: then Hogan with a big kickout that brings Orton to
Speaker 1: his feet. But it's not hul Cup time quite yet,
Speaker 1: as the Holster is still dazed. Short elbow drop in
Speaker 1: a fist drop by bob Orton gets too and then
Speaker 1: Jesse says, punish him for three to four minutes then
Speaker 1: and go for the cover.
Speaker 2: That's what he needs to do. I like that, Vince.
Speaker 2: Vince says that bob Orton shows no mercy, and I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, I'm it's really impressive that bob Orton
Speaker 2: is proud of his video game for and that he's
Speaker 2: had ahead of his time. Yes, exactly, I got his
Speaker 2: hands on it.
Speaker 1: So then bob Orton lifts the leg for a knee drop,
Speaker 1: but he comes up short a bit in terms of loading,
Speaker 1: so then he just drops his foot again and goes
Speaker 1: for it one more time and lands it. Only fucking
Speaker 1: Bob Orton Junior in nineteen eighty five could set up
Speaker 1: a knee drop on a downed opponent and then have
Speaker 1: to take take it again because he's gonna come up short.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I see this, I see Randy Orton's
Speaker 1: knee drop coming from Bob you know, oh, totally doing
Speaker 1: it here, totally in this generation. So then Bob Orton
Speaker 1: drives Hogan's face into the canvas. The crowd's starting to
Speaker 1: stomp and get full to bring Hogan back from the
Speaker 1: brink as they were wont to do. Uh, mister t
Speaker 1: is scrambling around ringside trying to get an eye level
Speaker 1: with the Hulk. Hogan is Ortan is dropping blows on
Speaker 1: the champion. Hogan Chance starts as he's on his knees, hoofing.
Speaker 1: Say he's dropping blow on the champions, well bows, but
Speaker 1: probably some blow too. Yeah, And then Hulk starts to
Speaker 1: seize and there it is. He comes up and he's
Speaker 1: hoofing and he starts throwing, and Jesse Ventur is so
Speaker 1: wonderful he goes bail out cowboy because he knows when
Speaker 1: Hulks starts rileying like this, he can't front like even
Speaker 1: he knows, the biggest Hulk coagain hater in the universe
Speaker 1: knows that you stand no chance when Hulk starts getting
Speaker 1: into this position.
Speaker 2: So there's an.
Speaker 1: Irish whip and a running I don't know, boss, would
Speaker 1: you call it an axie boomba?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says it kind of is. Yeah, that is a.
Speaker 1: Huge elbow drop out of the corner by the hulkster Ouch.
Speaker 1: Jesse says, as it lands, he he deployed that one
Speaker 1: pretty well on this broadcast.
Speaker 2: The ouch Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll give him that.
Speaker 1: He would say that judiciously. But at key moments, a
Speaker 1: cover gets to as Vince mcmand declares Bob Orton a
Speaker 1: tremendous challenger. So that's about the most praise he probably
Speaker 1: ever got from Vin Man. Hul Covin with the headbutt
Speaker 1: corner to corner, whip goes to the corner, Mountain begins
Speaker 1: running down punches, but Bob Orton counters with the Manhattan drop.
Speaker 1: Jesse says, here we go, I got that for you.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 16: Hi's maneuver A legal maneuver on the part of cowboy
Speaker 16: Bob Barton legal and beautiful maneuver, my cowboy, Bob Barton.
Speaker 12: Bob Orton's a technician. Bob Orton can wrestle. He is rough,
Speaker 12: but he can wrestle, and he's sold the champion that
Speaker 12: right there.
Speaker 2: Jesus, just an atomic drop, jess Fuck Jesus Christ and
Speaker 2: Bob Orton can wrestle. He's a technician. He knows how
Speaker 2: to get in there. He knows how to use the
Speaker 2: tools of the trade.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I sure hope he can wrestle. He's going
Speaker 1: for the world title on fucking that network TV.
Speaker 2: But whatever, He's also got a career as a wrestler.
Speaker 2: Would hope he can wrestle.
Speaker 1: Right his dad was a wrestler, Like, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? So Bob Orton hooks the sup Plex, but
Speaker 1: instead of dropping hold through the canvas, he deposits him
Speaker 1: on the top buckling.
Speaker 2: You know what that means?
Speaker 1: It's super plex and Vince says, if he got some
Speaker 1: no doubt, we'll have a new champion. Jessus, this could
Speaker 1: be it. The crowd rises, but it's not because of
Speaker 1: the super Plex.
Speaker 2: What if? What if? What if? What if Bob Orton
Speaker 2: hit the Superplex and pin Hogan clean and won the change.
Speaker 1: No, it'd be like it would be like a I
Speaker 1: having Cole Off beating Bruno. Just be like you could
Speaker 1: hear a pin drop people like fucking really just took
Speaker 1: the belt. It's gonna be like when John Cena beats
Speaker 1: Cody for the belt at WrestleMania. Oh you picture like
Speaker 1: Cody like lining up the crossroads and he goes for
Speaker 1: it and seeing it like pops out into the fu
Speaker 1: and like scrambles for a quick quick one, two three.
Speaker 1: Everyone's supposed to rejoice that he did it seventeen times,
Speaker 1: and then Cody never gets that momentum back.
Speaker 2: Listen, it's about time. Is it time?
Speaker 1: What's it time for? Lets people know? What are you sensing?
Speaker 2: No, listen, I'm I'm surprised they let Cody have the
Speaker 2: belt as long as they have. I hope that he doesn't.
Speaker 2: I hope they I hope they give seen of the
Speaker 2: world title instead, you know, like I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: There are some things in this in the wrestling world
Speaker 2: that I feel just need to be cherished and not
Speaker 2: broken for the sake of breaking, and the streak was
Speaker 2: one of those things. Honestly, the WrestleMania three attendance was
Speaker 2: one of those things and flares even though it's fictional,
Speaker 2: sixteen sixteen world titles like there's no need to have
Speaker 2: it beaten, there's no need to do that all. There
Speaker 2: is no need to beat the Undertaker at Wrestlemannie. There
Speaker 2: was no need fur there to be more fans at
Speaker 2: fucking Texas than in Detroit.
Speaker 1: App No need, absolutely, and we're headed to needlessness again.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: While the crowd rises at this moment is not because
Speaker 1: the superplex is coming. If you watch carefully, something's happening
Speaker 1: in the Nassau Coliseum at this moment. There's a fight
Speaker 1: in the front row. There's some huge distraction because all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everyone is looking away from the ring,
Speaker 1: and you see security even start to rush over at ringside.
Speaker 1: You can't see what it is because it's kind of
Speaker 1: happening beneath the hard camera, but there's something happening and
Speaker 1: everyone's distracted at this critical moment. Hogan fights off Bob
Speaker 1: Orton's superplex, incidentally, and Orton goes flying backwards off the
Speaker 1: ropes to the canvas. No one looking at the ring.
Speaker 1: There's no pop really to speak of for Hogan avoiding
Speaker 1: the big finisher of the Cowboy. But then Hogan comes
Speaker 1: off the middle rope with a nailbow to the top
Speaker 1: of the head, hits the rope and drops the leg
Speaker 1: and before he can get the three count rowdy Roddy
Speaker 1: Piper hits the ring, slugs the Hulkster from behind. He
Speaker 1: actually doesn't hit the ring, he hits him from the
Speaker 1: floor between the ropes, and in six minutes and fifty
Speaker 1: four seconds, hul Cogan declared the winner over Bob Orton
Speaker 1: via his qualification here and the very first world title
Speaker 1: match for a first hul Cogan match on Saturday Night's
Speaker 1: main event.
Speaker 2: The ref sees it, I mean the very first Hull
Speaker 2: Cogan match on network television asolutely. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of fursts going on here, ref declares the DQ. Piper
Speaker 2: stomping away, mister T comes and tackling him, going off
Speaker 2: on the gut with right hands and lefts Orton comes
Speaker 2: from behind and sledges mister T. Hogan comes up waving
Speaker 2: them all on and Piper rips off his shirt. They're
Speaker 2: about to double team Hogan in the corner as mister
Speaker 2: T just fucking kind of stands there and then who
Speaker 2: makes the save none another Then are newly minted number
Speaker 2: two baby face, mister wonderful Paul Orndorf slips in and
Speaker 2: the people explode. The people want Paul Orndorf here. Let's
Speaker 2: be clear about that, boss. I mean that that is
Speaker 2: a huge thing. The people want Paul Orndorf like they
Speaker 2: want they want him to be alongside Hulkogan two they do.
Speaker 2: He's got he's got a stone cold thing going here
Speaker 2: in that. Yeah, you know, he's just a hard nosed,
Speaker 2: bad ass, ass kicking heel who we hated when he
Speaker 2: had Hulk and others in the crosshairs and when he
Speaker 2: was doing it on behalf of the Heenan family and
Speaker 2: acting arrogantly. But the second somebody who is a heel
Speaker 2: not because they beg off and sneak around and act
Speaker 2: like chicken shits, but as a heel because they're so
Speaker 2: bad ass that they can just flaunt every rule and
Speaker 2: every convention and just smash baby faces into mush. Suddenly,
Speaker 2: if he's going to do this on the side of
Speaker 2: good for Hulk Hogan, it's it's glorious, that's what you mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's glorious. It's the exact mold that pretty much
Speaker 1: every babyface with tenure and wrestling history has has fit into.
Speaker 1: And here we see kind of a tantalizingly short glimpse
Speaker 1: of what that could have been, because, as we outlined
Speaker 1: in Part one, very quickly they pivot back to Orndorf
Speaker 1: as a heel, turning on Hogan and going after him
Speaker 1: for the championship, leading to that cage match on a
Speaker 1: future Saturday it's made event against the Hulkster, but for now,
Speaker 1: Worndorf slips in, they explode, Orndorff gives a look to Hogan,
Speaker 1: Jesse goes off about it being three against two, and
Speaker 1: they hold back. Orndorff is the heels, scram out of
Speaker 1: the ring and they they have a moment where you know,
Speaker 1: they're dapping each other up, mister T Hulk Cogan, mister Wonderful,
Speaker 1: to leave no question that there is a new alliance
Speaker 1: formed here among these three. And they cut this out
Speaker 1: of the peacock version. But when they go to a
Speaker 1: break and come back, there's kind of an extended in
Speaker 1: ring celebration with mister T no kidding, and they do
Speaker 1: the whole posing routine. You know, that's why they cut
Speaker 1: it off, I have no idea. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know why they cut this off. The whole segment kind
Speaker 1: of gets cut, and it includes a playing of the
Speaker 1: Cyndi Lauperguni's music video, which of course they do not
Speaker 1: have rights to. And I think probably, if I'm thinking
Speaker 1: it through, a big part of the reason they probably
Speaker 1: cut it is while Orndorf, mister t and Hogan are
Speaker 1: in the ring doing the posing routine I have the
Speaker 1: tiger is playing the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why couldn't I mean, only I didn't have
Speaker 2: a problem putting real American and using the commentary during
Speaker 2: that when he's coming in the ring. Read what difference
Speaker 2: does it make?
Speaker 1: It is a curious deletion. It's almost kind of lazy,
Speaker 1: you know. But there is also a Lapera and Lou
Speaker 1: Albano interview in here as well that didn't make the
Speaker 1: Peacock version, But we've got it for you. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: don't fret. Yes, that's just what the folks sitting down
Speaker 1: to Saturday Nights made event in eighty five would have
Speaker 1: seen when all was right with the world.
Speaker 16: Wonderful Hogan, mister d plus the Women's World Championship PY drink.
Speaker 1: So this is on Peacock going into the break coarse
Speaker 1: about this music.
Speaker 2: So here it is.
Speaker 11: A show tony audience.
Speaker 22: Oh my goodness, look that you talking about beefcake.
Speaker 2: Baby beefcack wasn't there? Oh my god, that's why they
Speaker 2: cut it, Fince says, talk about beefcake. Oh no, this
Speaker 2: is classic Finns like Loyals. Yeah, we're threesome. That's why
Speaker 2: they right.
Speaker 4: Them all time.
Speaker 2: That's why they cut it to And you got three
Speaker 2: eagle Madiacs out there.
Speaker 14: Oh look at that.
Speaker 16: Right now, let's come back to me and Jeane in
Speaker 16: the dressing room with Sydney Lapper and Lewis Alpao.
Speaker 14: All right, thank you very much, Vince. Ladies title coming up.
Speaker 14: One championship down, another to go that, ladies said, gentlemen,
Speaker 14: the first network telecast in nearly three decades a professional
Speaker 14: wrestling right here, Cindy Lapper, you're a champion, of course,
Speaker 14: to defend here momentarily against the fabulous Mulla.
Speaker 10: We're gonna be talking that she's not gonna win, mean Jean,
Speaker 10: she's gonna wine, got no chance, Mulla.
Speaker 6: Woa is that?
Speaker 15: This is it?
Speaker 2: This is the last one.
Speaker 10: I'm very pleased to say that under my guidance, Wendy,
Speaker 10: we once again have and keep the title.
Speaker 14: All right, Captain Lewis al Battle, You've got to be
Speaker 14: very proud. Cindy Lapper, a friend, then a nemesis, and
Speaker 14: now friends again.
Speaker 15: The termination of this little one hundred and two pounds
Speaker 15: eighty minutes unreal?
Speaker 2: What determination? What will to win? Whoo?
Speaker 11: So fine oohoo.
Speaker 7: Don't get too excited, remember.
Speaker 14: It makes you a duel a swell hey, hold on
Speaker 14: just a second yet, No, Thanks to you Cindy Lapper
Speaker 14: and MTV, you have got a brand new video from
Speaker 14: the Goodies called good Enough.
Speaker 2: We're excited about that. Yes, I am too.
Speaker 11: I'm very excited.
Speaker 6: It's the first rock in wrestling CONNECTIONUS.
Speaker 11: I heard video video.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well matter first, But everyone right, lou lout.
Speaker 21: A all got all the US's got, Nikolai Bone Coffee,
Speaker 21: got the Iron Cheek, you got that, Freddy Blast him
Speaker 21: and Freddy Blade, You've got cut it all together.
Speaker 11: You got it and Katrine, Katrine.
Speaker 14: And Roddy Piper is nderstand sending your brand new fidel
Speaker 14: called the Goodies.
Speaker 22: Good night, Pyper dehydrated baby.
Speaker 23: One last I saw Cindy, things were going from bad
Speaker 23: to worse. Why her mom and pop gash shop was
Speaker 23: being forced to close. No more veggie burgers, no more
Speaker 23: free cookies with casts, no more nothing. Them cheating brothers
Speaker 23: were about to force them out with the fiction papers.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna smell.
Speaker 2: There's your mom.
Speaker 23: But before Cindy, Now, don't miss part two, coming soon
Speaker 23: to a.
Speaker 2: KIV near you. The greatest video of the all time.
Speaker 14: I've never seen nothing like a jamantastic Cindy laper. I've
Speaker 14: got a thank you kinna mite.
Speaker 10: I know there nothing Ronnie.
Speaker 2: One second.
Speaker 21: I would like to say, yes, that was the greatest
Speaker 21: video I ever seen till you started the thing, the.
Speaker 14: Whole damn thing in it.
Speaker 8: That's why I oh, yeah, Spielberg, as it sounds like
Speaker 8: it you're making me, Askedberg.
Speaker 2: I wasn't were you need we not the way the
Speaker 2: way we.
Speaker 11: Right out of the previous fool.
Speaker 2: Less welcome back.
Speaker 1: That's what you're missing right there. I cut the Nadia out, obviously,
Speaker 1: but they pulled the whole thing. So on, Peacock, you
Speaker 1: come back with the graphic of for Richter and Mullah
Speaker 1: and it's a controversy is brewing on this one. As
Speaker 1: we cut to Gene Oklahom with the fabulous Muller backstage
Speaker 1: or ordinary the entrance way here, I got that interview
Speaker 1: for you right here.
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what, Facebook, Matt, I am going to
Speaker 14: try as much as I possibly can. I have with me,
Speaker 14: challenger and long time chap you longer than any other
Speaker 14: in history, the fabulous bull of moments away when the
Speaker 14: erector in the possibility of your regaining that title belt.
Speaker 22: That's right.
Speaker 5: I'm going in there with the intentions of regaining it again,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to keep it forever this time.
Speaker 2: But now I want to tell you something.
Speaker 5: I'm sick and tired of all the interference with Cindy
Speaker 5: Lauper and that bunch of g geeks that's standing outside
Speaker 5: the ring and up and down the hall and holland
Speaker 5: do this and do that, and putting bags over my
Speaker 5: head and hitting me in the headway, purses and everything.
Speaker 5: You let me finish, Gene.
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 5: So I went to the higher ups at WWF and
Speaker 5: I convinced them that I was right to have Cindy
Speaker 5: Loper bard from the ring. When I am in the
Speaker 5: ring participating in my match. She is not allowed in
Speaker 5: the ring, and if she comes out there tonight, I
Speaker 5: will give this paper to the referee and have her
Speaker 5: sent back ejected from the ring.
Speaker 14: If you know what I mean, Well, I get the
Speaker 14: jungle idea of that lily. In all due respect, I'm
Speaker 14: going to have to see to believe twenty eight years
Speaker 14: is chat good chance of your ray gaty that coveted
Speaker 14: title belt when you meet Wendy Richter.
Speaker 2: It's but it's from no, yeah, indeed, there it is.
Speaker 1: So we turn quickly here as we hear from Lillian
Speaker 1: Ellison there with her dollar signed glasses and earrings, she's
Speaker 1: a sight to behold.
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty five, Oh, I'll say.
Speaker 1: Kind of what was happening around the rock and wrestling
Speaker 1: connection and the role she played kind of reluctantly as
Speaker 1: we learn, I was heartbroken for a while losing my championship,
Speaker 1: she writes. Of course, I knew everybody was right when
Speaker 1: they said I had an amazing run that twenty eight
Speaker 1: years of being a champion is unheard of, but it's
Speaker 1: still hurt. I guess that's because, unlike a lot of
Speaker 1: the girls who were coming into wrestling, I never looked
Speaker 1: at wrestling as a stepping stone anything else. A lot
Speaker 1: of them, especially since the rock and Wrestling connection looked
Speaker 1: at getting in the ring like it was a way
Speaker 1: to become a star.
Speaker 17: Me.
Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that. I always was
Speaker 1: a competitor, and I always wanted just a kick button
Speaker 1: squared circle. By the way, that's what did Wendy and
Speaker 1: I think she got all caught up in being a
Speaker 1: celebrity and forgot that being a wrestler is.
Speaker 2: What she was us. Yes, that's cool, that's fucking good.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing about it. Let's not forget
Speaker 2: you know, like, you know, I can see that Wendy
Speaker 2: Richard looks like somebody who who I imagine that she
Speaker 2: she started out like Mullah, like, wanting to be a wrestler.
Speaker 2: Under Lama brought her in right there you go. And
Speaker 2: but then you know, she gets this little taste of
Speaker 2: the limelight with Cindy Lauper, and you know, she thinks
Speaker 2: she and Sidey Lapper are real friends. Yeah, and she
Speaker 2: wants she wants us to keep going because it's a shoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, oh, Nope, you're just a wrestler. For example,
Speaker 1: Cindy had a bunch of us wrestlers appear in her
Speaker 1: videos and Wendy just loved it. Me, I hated it
Speaker 1: because it wasn't what I do. They flew me out
Speaker 1: of California to shoot Cindy's goonies are good enough.
Speaker 2: Idiot, I like I like that. I like that. She
Speaker 2: hated it, hated like it's not like she said, you know,
Speaker 2: it was a neat experience, but it just wasn't for me. No,
Speaker 2: she hated it because it wasn't wrestling, right. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: she's such a fucking she's something else whatever.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Of course, she loves wrestling more than anything else because
Speaker 1: she's making money on every girl she trains. So she's
Speaker 1: making like so much more per sort of hour in
Speaker 1: than everybody else. I don't know how much more, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's not hard to find many stories of
Speaker 1: Mulla playing fast and loose with her percentage, okay, of
Speaker 1: these women.
Speaker 2: So she does she learn her craft under rngag kind
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Kind of seems like she learned her craft more and
Speaker 1: her fucking John DuPont in some ways. But right, And
Speaker 1: she also appeared in her time after time and she
Speaker 1: bop videos.
Speaker 2: She bop is Oh I didn't know that, I know
Speaker 2: she did more. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She Bop is the song, by the way, that Wendy
Speaker 1: Richter comes out to on this Saturday Night's main event,
Speaker 1: but it's dubbed over with that kind of generic girls
Speaker 1: just want to have fun song that they created for
Speaker 1: Sydney Lapper moments. Wendy was the waitress blowing a bubble
Speaker 1: and singing the first verse in the Shebop video. Mulla writes,
Speaker 1: I joined a bunch of other wrestlers for the Goonies video.
Speaker 1: This is the one that played here during snm E.
Speaker 1: Roddy Piper there and she and I played the band
Speaker 1: of pirates who chased Cindy underground. Playing The Gooney Kids
Speaker 1: were a group of Hollywood child actors who would later
Speaker 1: go on to become stars themselves. There were sewn Aston,
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman, Josh Brolin, and Martha Plimpton.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Oh yeah, oh, it's got a
Speaker 2: great cast of like of child actors who would become,
Speaker 2: you know, big stars. The wrestlers were painting the ass
Speaker 2: Cindy lappertole the press and and uh Greg Valentine is
Speaker 2: mama for Telly.
Speaker 1: Yes right, yeah, one of his biggest opportunities. It was
Speaker 1: just so aggravating. She writes, You've got to get up
Speaker 1: at four in the morning because they had to send
Speaker 1: a limousine for you to five take to the studio
Speaker 1: at five. There they have what they call breakfast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: write stale coffee and a Danish if you're lucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mulla likes her her chicken fried steak and her biscuits
Speaker 1: and all that bullshit.
Speaker 2: You know her. I mean, listen, you know, if she
Speaker 2: was smart, she would have said. You know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: that there were people who would have been, yeah, anything
Speaker 2: you need, anything you need miss Muli, as you know,
Speaker 2: say I want to fucking chicken fried steak, go have
Speaker 2: him get it. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Then they retouch your makeup because you've been sweating. And
Speaker 1: then you wait some more. After dinner, the quote unquote
Speaker 1: they tell you we've got to wait till later on tonight.
Speaker 1: By eleven, it's gotten too late, and they tell you
Speaker 1: the shoot the first thing they do in the next morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wrestlers aren't built for this man. They want to show up,
Speaker 1: put their work in, get their white envelope and fucking
Speaker 1: bounce exactly.
Speaker 2: They don't, they don't. They Honestly, they don't know how
Speaker 2: to do a full day's work.
Speaker 1: After losing my championship, she writes, I started concentrating really
Speaker 1: hard on making history, about winning it back. This is
Speaker 1: in eighty five, and I was very mindful of the
Speaker 1: example set by Muhammad Ali back in the seventies when
Speaker 1: he came back to when the boxing title for a
Speaker 1: record third time. If he could make history, why I
Speaker 1: couldn't I but I knew it wouldn't be easy because
Speaker 1: yours is different. There's a difference between you and Ahamad Ali.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's right, Well, there's that.
Speaker 2: And then also because pretend you know you can't actually
Speaker 2: just fucking win it, someone has to tell you're gonna win.
Speaker 2: That was never Uh, someone has to make the decision.
Speaker 2: Didn't stop her in the past, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks to her relationship with Cindy, Wendy was a crowd favorite.
Speaker 2: I was used to having the fans go against me,
Speaker 2: but Wendy was so popular now I couldn't count on
Speaker 2: the rest to do their jobs. I realized that the
Speaker 2: first step in my comeback trail and fall flat out
Speaker 2: stopping Wendy. She was running around the country, ducking, giving
Speaker 2: me a rematch, so I started focusing on the next
Speaker 2: big thing, managing a challenger. Wait is this I don't
Speaker 2: understand what this is? Yeah, not got off.
Speaker 1: Both and then she's going into WrestleMania and talking about
Speaker 1: all that. And then there's a chapter so long champ.
Speaker 1: I think she touches on. I think she touches on. Uh,
Speaker 1: Saturday Night's main event. Here Wendy was the champ again. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got it. In the beginning, she writes, Wendy had
Speaker 1: seemed to want to be a wrestler, just not just
Speaker 1: not being the limelight. Once she got that championship, that's
Speaker 1: when her behavior started to change. Oh, Wendy's in the
Speaker 1: back seat. Okay, pretty soon I smelled smoke. I started
Speaker 1: watering Wendy there and she started giggling the back seat.
Speaker 1: They lit up cigarettes when Amula and Nikola I didn't.
Speaker 2: Why are fucking why is? Why is? When you're riding
Speaker 2: with she can cough.
Speaker 1: That's a sight to see, and that is a sight
Speaker 1: to see. One day, iron Cheek said to Wendy, and
Speaker 1: they worked each other up to one day. Iron Cheek
Speaker 1: said to Wendy, you were supposed to get fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for WrestleMania. That's what I got. So Wendy came
Speaker 1: complaining to me, we got cheated out of our money.
Speaker 1: And that's when she starts acting like a premium dome.
Speaker 1: She definitely thought she was definitely thought she was underpaid
Speaker 1: for for WrestleMania. She probably was, but whatever. Then they
Speaker 1: do the Spider thing with the the double heel turned
Speaker 1: the Spider Lady double heels her oh, the double cross.
Speaker 1: So I guess she doesn't talk about this match, she
Speaker 1: doesn't talk about Saturday's main event. But that just gives
Speaker 1: you an idea of the the thick tensions. There's no
Speaker 1: way someone who had a little fiefdom for as many
Speaker 1: fucking decades as Mula did was gonna let Wendy Richter
Speaker 1: stay around very long. She's gonna just she's not going
Speaker 1: to rest until everyone of the business thinks she's a
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a head case, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that the funny thing is that, you know,
Speaker 1: she's saying she's she's making it about Wendy Richter, but
Speaker 1: it really could have been anybody. It could have been
Speaker 1: anybody who was in her shoes.
Speaker 2: Bingo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're not going to pick something veteran that
Speaker 1: earned her, you know, that paid her dues to play
Speaker 1: this young pop star champion, you know, give me a.
Speaker 2: Break, right, so they could do. But it's just so funny,
Speaker 2: like because because you know, it could have been her
Speaker 2: fucking protege Lalani Kai for all you know, Like it
Speaker 2: just happened to be Wendy Richter, right, anybody.
Speaker 1: I saw passing reference. I could be wrong about this
Speaker 1: that they were supposed to be. I don't remember where
Speaker 1: I saw this now that at one point the Saturday
Speaker 1: Night's Made event matter was supposed to be Wendy Richter
Speaker 1: versus mad Maxine, who was another woman they brought it
Speaker 1: around this time. It was kind of like being groomed
Speaker 1: as a challenger, but that for some reason that fell
Speaker 1: through and so Mula had to wrestle again. Like that
Speaker 1: wasn't really the plan.
Speaker 2: I wonder if has something to do with that.
Speaker 1: Probably probably, So Mulla suddenly on the walk down to
Speaker 1: the ring, there's a very abrupt jump from her doing
Speaker 1: the promo to being in the ring. But oh well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there she is, and Vince says, she walks as confidently
Speaker 1: as she did a quarter of a century ago to
Speaker 1: the Ring here tonight. And the old story, of course,
Speaker 1: is that Vince Senior told Vince Junior expressly to always
Speaker 1: take care of fabulous Mulla, and he did do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know sure what kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of bodies Mulla buried or knew where they
Speaker 1: were married.
Speaker 2: But well, what kind of body is you're gonna give me?
Speaker 2: What ladies are you gonna find for me?
Speaker 1: I mean, is by all accounts, Vince McMahon was a
Speaker 1: paragon of virtue et cetera, et cetera. But it wouldn't
Speaker 1: take a lot of convincing to get me to believe that.
Speaker 1: You know, he had full access to the Mulla compound.
Speaker 2: Put it that way.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, full access, and so did his lieutenants. Okay,
Speaker 1: apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Speaker 2: Listen. You know, like you think you look about when
Speaker 2: he grew up, and you watch shows like mad Men,
Speaker 2: yes and stuff like that, and you see, you know,
Speaker 2: like it was just like it's it's awful, but it
Speaker 2: was like a rite of passage.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Any woman who had whoever's that kind of power that
Speaker 1: she had, it was, you know, allowed to be the
Speaker 1: kind of whip cracker that she was. There was an
Speaker 1: element of that, there was an element of essentially she's facilitating,
Speaker 1: you know, guys in expensive suits just absolutely having like
Speaker 1: trembling orgasms, you know, in some way or another. So
Speaker 1: we cut to Cindy with Jeane.
Speaker 2: Here we go, it's here from the chair. There's no way,
Speaker 2: Gene that she's gonna ban me.
Speaker 6: You know why, because I am Wendy Rich's manager and
Speaker 6: a manager just lying girl.
Speaker 10: My girl is gonna win, and I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 2: And see then seeing that that that I played.
Speaker 6: Jordi, you just tell me what happened at wrestling. May left,
Speaker 6: What happened wrestling, May left, wrestling, May left wrestling, May
Speaker 6: left Wrestling.
Speaker 11: May left.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's not like she was the biggest part of
Speaker 1: the show or anything. It's not like she was Wrestling
Speaker 1: Mania at every press conference. Asked about it a million times,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, wrestling, May.
Speaker 10: Left, and she was choking me and then the two
Speaker 10: of them her milani Ki team jobs on Wendy. You
Speaker 10: tell me we are the double team tried to get
Speaker 10: the nail.
Speaker 2: Okay, now we do.
Speaker 14: You let me just very quickly point out Mulla made
Speaker 14: no bones about the fact that she contends you have
Speaker 14: interfered in previous title defenses for this lady.
Speaker 11: Listen, Mula always interferes.
Speaker 6: Mulla interfered when she choked me and then she double
Speaker 6: teams Wendy with.
Speaker 10: Lani Kai and that's how they got the built because that's.
Speaker 11: The only got proof to the Mulla interfered. We got proof.
Speaker 14: I thank you fans, it's upcoming. Let's go back to
Speaker 14: the ringside riffling raffling.
Speaker 2: Man, they really let What did Richter say A lot?
Speaker 2: Don't they?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, she sucks. We got proof too. We got proof too.
Speaker 2: Would you like I got a monkey in my pocke?
Speaker 2: Would you like fries with the water burger? No, I
Speaker 2: said that. I'm perfose. You imagine if you had access
Speaker 2: right now? Oh, what do you get?
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Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 2: I just get you know, because it's because I don't
Speaker 2: get it that often. I just get their main whatever,
Speaker 2: the main one is, honestly, because because I don't I'm not.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not something that's up here. I I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want my what Burger
Speaker 2: experience to be ruined. So if I if that's the
Speaker 2: only time I'm going to have it in a trip
Speaker 2: down to wherever it's available, I can only get the
Speaker 2: regular one, because that's what I need to feel, that
Speaker 2: layers that you're biting through, you know. Yeah, absolutely, yes,
Speaker 2: Oh it's glorious. So, uh what a burger?
Speaker 1: Dave Wolf is standing there too, God help us. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely the guy I think you would be a fan of.
Speaker 2: Oh, just like you know a guy. You know, he's
Speaker 2: a guy who grew his hair out because he thinks
Speaker 2: it looks cool, not because it's like something that he
Speaker 2: actually was like you know what, I I'm kind of
Speaker 2: feeling this. It's like, wait a minute, this is what's cool,
Speaker 2: this is what rock stars. This is what I'm going
Speaker 2: to do so I look cool, right, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not it was not an organic choice. It was it
Speaker 2: was a strategized choice for him to do that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting I'm not suggesting he did anything
Speaker 1: on tooward, but for some reason, whenever I see him
Speaker 1: in frame with Cindy Lauper, and I think they were
Speaker 1: boyfriend and girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I think they were. Yeah, they were dating, Yeah, did
Speaker 2: they did.
Speaker 1: He was also a manager essentially, and a big wrestling
Speaker 1: fan and a big He was really the catalyst for this.
Speaker 1: He was the one who like understood wrestling well enough
Speaker 1: to figure how Cindy Lapper could fit in. Cindey Lapper
Speaker 1: while she was friendly with Loue Albano, having had that
Speaker 1: chance encounter with him on the plane to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: As we've talked about before, it's like she was a
Speaker 1: huge wrestling fan, but it's Dave Wolf who could see
Speaker 1: how she could fit in as a manager and and
Speaker 1: what wrestling was to forward, you know, certain feuds and
Speaker 1: things as a corner woman. Anyway, when I see Dave
Speaker 1: Wolf with Cindey Lauper, I always see the guy that
Speaker 1: slaps jen A across the face and Forrest Gump, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that kind of guy, like for
Speaker 1: some reason, like why is this guy.
Speaker 2: In control of all these people? You know, why is
Speaker 2: this the guy? Somehow? Somehow this is the guy. This
Speaker 2: is this is the this is the boss, right for
Speaker 2: some reason, like some someone. This guy looketed himself to
Speaker 2: be bossed, and everyone else said, oh, okay, this makes sense.
Speaker 1: Because nobody else has any ability to be the boss themselves,
Speaker 1: so they just let him be it. I should have
Speaker 1: known it was gonna be nothing but a bullshit hassle. Yes, tremendous,
Speaker 1: so uh Laper says, yeah, Mulla always into fias.
Speaker 2: We heard all that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Fink announces this one is for the World Rusting
Speaker 1: Federation Ladies Championship.
Speaker 2: That's right, not the women's yet they're not women's there
Speaker 2: they have to be ladies. Women had you to evolve
Speaker 2: and ww that's true exactly. With her hand behind her hair,
Speaker 2: you know she used to do that. She picture it
Speaker 2: right now, I know, I know, because she's like trying
Speaker 2: to be like a pin up model and it's just
Speaker 2: like so annoying. She's so grotesque she is, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, she's just vile.
Speaker 20: You know.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about Mula. The funny thing about Mula
Speaker 2: is that she looked the same until the day she died.
Speaker 2: Like she looked the same from eighty five until like
Speaker 2: even a WrestleMania twenty She looked the fucking thing a generation.
Speaker 1: Where man, when what her old tough broad turned forty,
Speaker 1: she looked like, you know, she looked like she was
Speaker 1: forty when she was twenty eight, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly like you always her liked unless she was really
Speaker 1: a young woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what she looked like
Speaker 2: when she was young, but like she's just like I
Speaker 2: I want, I want to stay as far away from
Speaker 2: her as possible, right exactly, I just I I I
Speaker 2: don't feel safe watching her on television. Just the smell
Speaker 2: of what she has to put on her hair, her
Speaker 2: hair to keep it like that, to keep it that stiff.
Speaker 2: And then she like walks around with her fucking yeah
Speaker 2: like she's this fucking, like I said, a pinup model,
Speaker 2: and she's got her grandma tits all over the place,
Speaker 2: like just in a bowl of hard candies in her
Speaker 2: oh oh yeah, oh my god. You know, you know,
Speaker 2: damn Well, whenever she's like whenever she's like scouting a
Speaker 2: new a new prospect, she's like just crunching on that
Speaker 2: hard candy gross, like the strawberry ones that everyone used
Speaker 2: to have, but no one knew where they came from,
Speaker 2: I know, and no one like it's like you only
Speaker 2: ate it because there was nothing else in the fucking bowl.
Speaker 2: Like you just had these stupid strawberry candies and for
Speaker 2: some reason, this is what grandparents thought kids wanted to eat.
Speaker 1: She had those lozenges that look like red like robotuscin pills.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. She's just like crunching on it as she's
Speaker 2: like looking at this person, this woman, like she's like
Speaker 2: just eyeing her up and down, figuring out what she
Speaker 2: can do with her, and just go so good, Oh
Speaker 2: my god. Oh so.
Speaker 1: The music they picked for her, it wasn't actually the
Speaker 1: Wind the Cidney Lauper thing. It almost sounds like a
Speaker 1: mysterious Ways by You tube or something. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're going for, but Laper comes storming out.
Speaker 2: And basically they're going for anything that can replace the
Speaker 2: fucking music on the actual tape.
Speaker 1: And Cydney Lapper is holding onto her hat for dear
Speaker 1: life as she makes her way down the sileway and
Speaker 1: people are reaching the grab.
Speaker 2: And then someone does grab it, and like she has
Speaker 2: to fight for it. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: She finally takes the hat off because she almost loses
Speaker 1: the damn thing. But the hat is under siege from
Speaker 1: the moment she gets in there. Loopper, Yeah, Blopper's in
Speaker 1: there trying to pretend she's gonna hold the ropes open
Speaker 1: for City Lapper, but she just doesn't for us, Wendy Richter,
Speaker 1: but she just doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then we have I mean she could I
Speaker 2: don't mean she could could do that. No, probably she's
Speaker 2: gravy how to do it? Right? I know, it's like
Speaker 2: something you like go to do when you're like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: Oh no, you know what, I'm not going to do this. Sorry.
Speaker 1: The referee has been handed a proclamation on yellow parchment paper.
Speaker 2: As the think, well it basically think is handed a
Speaker 2: fucking medieval scroll.
Speaker 18: It looks like, ladies and gentlemen, May I have your
Speaker 18: attention please, as in my hand, I have a very
Speaker 18: important announcement.
Speaker 2: Why are you shouting? Right? Stop shouting? We're right. You
Speaker 2: have a microphone for fuck's sake.
Speaker 18: Hereby acknowledged that the World Wrestling Parish has decreed that,
Speaker 18: due to flagrant and repeated interference from outside the ring, Miss.
Speaker 2: Has been banned.
Speaker 18: From the floor during the Ring Championship match.
Speaker 2: Miss Lapper will have to.
Speaker 11: Leave the floor area immediately.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Oh fucking finkle.
Speaker 1: They stand by the stipulation and and it works. It
Speaker 1: makes for a really really dramatic finish in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways.
Speaker 2: So does Yeah, it does get She sits back like
Speaker 2: she's in the you know, like she's in what they
Speaker 2: call video village when you're making them, when you when
Speaker 2: you're on set for something, you know, they have a
Speaker 2: separate area where they've got all the video monitors up
Speaker 2: so that people who, you know, producers and whatever can
Speaker 2: watch what's going on without having to be in on set,
Speaker 2: you know themselves. Village. Yeah, they call it video village.
Speaker 2: At least they used to. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: still do it anymore, but I'm that's why I always
Speaker 2: heard the term.
Speaker 1: So Cindi Lauper stumps her way up to video village.
Speaker 1: Miss Lapper will have to leave the floor immediately. They say,
Speaker 1: Mulla's arms up and fucking victory and the granny tits
Speaker 1: are there and everything. Opper skulks off, and Vince says,
Speaker 1: she's a professional, and I'm sure she'll abide by the
Speaker 1: World Rustling Federation ruling they go to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean, think about think about
Speaker 2: all the men that Mulla dominated, all right, Like she
Speaker 2: just destroyed them. Yeah, really all right, like like like honestly,
Speaker 2: it's like it's like her pussy was a fucking lion,
Speaker 2: all right in leopard prints. Start sure, just fucking devouring
Speaker 2: men with that thing, right, that's fucking mula. I mean,
Speaker 2: she didn't not know how to make sure she was satisfied.
Speaker 2: Oh listen, And it didn't matter if the if the guy,
Speaker 2: if the gentleman was satisfied. Do you right, that's just it,
Speaker 2: you know, when she's satisfied, she's done. Get the fuck
Speaker 2: away from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he finished, she'd say, you're pathetic, she'd say to.
Speaker 2: Him, exactly, Oh my god, exactly she yeah, if he
Speaker 2: especially if he finished before she did, she would just
Speaker 2: kick him out of the fucking apartment, her house. And
Speaker 2: she just fucking finished herself off. Get the fuck out
Speaker 2: of it. Why doesn't why don't people talk, bitch, Why
Speaker 2: don't people talk about this? I know exactly, like a
Speaker 2: huge part of the story, right, I mean, listen, she
Speaker 2: was a dominant She was a dominant woman. She was abusive, obviously,
Speaker 2: but she was a dominant woman and she was not
Speaker 2: gonna she was not gonna stand by and let some
Speaker 2: fucking ass clown finish when she doesn't.
Speaker 1: I think you know that has revolutionary and inspirationals. Her
Speaker 1: story was I think you know what a The bravest
Speaker 1: thing she ever did was by a sibyon and righties.
Speaker 7: A picture her face, oh no, with with another fucking
Speaker 7: glass of sweet tea on the bedside table.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that three lillion? This afternoon she's got
Speaker 2: she's holy on and it's like fucking splattering everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she starts her day, her butt ass naked, naked. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: And listen, she lets it fucking she puts it all right,
Speaker 2: she cranks it up to fucking ten, all right, and
Speaker 2: she's gonna go for a half hour, no question, gonna
Speaker 2: go for it, all right. I thought he's gonna say
Speaker 2: she's gonna go for it. He's gonna go for it,
Speaker 2: and she's gonna hang in there for a half hour.
Speaker 2: When she's done, that fucking stiff ass dry hair is sopping.
Speaker 2: Oh god, what she just mat it down? Yeah, funny,
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny, isn't it. She's on and he's like,
Speaker 2: so I understand I bought mullah, so do I don't
Speaker 2: understand something. You body a sibyan. Is that tru right
Speaker 2: word gets out that she bought it even before she
Speaker 2: gets the thing to the house. I heard you order
Speaker 2: on the Amazon. Is that correct? Yes, Vance Dad is correct.
Speaker 2: I see, I see. This is very exciting. I just
Speaker 2: want to let you know that it's very, very exciting.
Speaker 2: I would like to be involved with us, like she
Speaker 2: started a company. She's taking investors. I would like to
Speaker 2: put in twenty percent in your sy that's funny, Advance,
Speaker 2: because I don't want to put into it. Because here's
Speaker 2: the thing too. I only picture her from the from
Speaker 2: the back. Baby, it's from the back, and like can
Speaker 2: you see her face or anything. It's just a fucking
Speaker 2: like you know, lift ah, this is fucking vibrating, a
Speaker 2: fucking glass in her hand, sweet tea, going all over
Speaker 2: the place, almost fucking almost causing like an electrical fire.
Speaker 2: For Fox's sakes. That so reminds me remember tom and
Speaker 2: you know, the Mayor Bosch and my Obama.
Speaker 1: I always had this thing like he's gonna get it,
Speaker 1: He's gonna get into shape, you know, because cardiologist says, Tommy,
Speaker 1: you know, you really need to stop eating food you
Speaker 1: enjoy you're a man of a certain age, it's time
Speaker 1: to no longer eat food you like.
Speaker 2: And so he's and he's trying to take totato like
Speaker 2: meals of came. That's all.
Speaker 1: It is, like a meat potatoes guy pasta glen gonna
Speaker 1: go to go into the grave eating, you know, skipping
Speaker 1: breakfast and having sound coffin with potato in his mouth.
Speaker 2: Well, that has nothing to do with the rest of them.
Speaker 1: So, but I always had this thing of like, oh god,
Speaker 1: Tommy's got to get in shape, and so like one
Speaker 1: of his deputies, buy is like a stare like a
Speaker 1: StairMaster up an elliptical, the running machine.
Speaker 2: What do you call those things?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, ellipticals when you step up right with
Speaker 1: the fucking is like the is like the yeah, and
Speaker 1: the cross country skiing type thing like a peloton one
Speaker 1: of those, right, but that's an exercise bike. Fucking what
Speaker 1: are those things?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 16: This is this is it.
Speaker 2: This is this is the end of life right here,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: This is this is me googling exercise running machine, treadmill.
Speaker 2: Fucking hell, I'll tell you man, that's it. You hit
Speaker 2: forty and that's what happens. Oh my, it just goes,
Speaker 2: it all goes, it all goes. All right, it's gone,
Speaker 2: so he has it's never coming back.
Speaker 1: He has the doctor's appointment on the Friday and they
Speaker 1: show all this Triglisser rides or whatever. So Monday he's
Speaker 1: got to get a fucking he's got to have a
Speaker 1: new routine, yeah, that he sticks to for you know,
Speaker 1: a week and a half.
Speaker 2: He six with for a week and a half and
Speaker 2: then he picks it up again a week before he
Speaker 2: has to go to the doctor again. And the doctor
Speaker 2: is more than happy to be manipulated in that way.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: That's all the doctor really knows how to do is
Speaker 1: tell you to diet.
Speaker 2: That's the only fucking thing. Yeah, and you should die.
Speaker 1: I tell you what would help an awful lot is
Speaker 1: if he lost weight. You know, Doc, it's kind of
Speaker 1: funny that's the only solution you have because you know
Speaker 1: it's the only thing that's not going to happen.
Speaker 18: So so.
Speaker 2: I kind of think I could do your job, doc, honestly, Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: I think I could get paid a lot of money
Speaker 2: by just doing what you do.
Speaker 1: You send the blood off for the levels and then
Speaker 1: you just tell me to lose weight and then I
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 2: All right, great.
Speaker 1: So so they get the treadmill, but they put it
Speaker 1: in his office at City Hall because he's still so
Speaker 1: busy that he's got there. He's so locked down in
Speaker 1: his routine of you know, showering at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, putting this suit on the dry cleaning is
Speaker 1: you know, onlock as far as like the cycle and everything.
Speaker 1: And he always has a suit and tis he's the
Speaker 1: mayor for christ sakes, he's yeah, of course, he's always
Speaker 1: He's been the mayor for so long. He's he's just
Speaker 1: he's stuck in his ways, you know how Like Trump
Speaker 1: still goes everywhere in a suit, Vince still goes everywhere
Speaker 1: in a full suit. Like anyone needs to see this
Speaker 1: kind of suit, you know, but it's like anyone's impressed,
Speaker 1: right exactly like this is it's like nineteen eighty two
Speaker 1: or something, and the only people he took seriously are
Speaker 1: men in suits. And so here he comes and the
Speaker 1: treadmill is now in his office and he's still got
Speaker 1: to have his morning dunks of course. So my vision
Speaker 1: is of Tom Andino in shirt sleeves with the tie
Speaker 1: flipped over his shoulder, running on the treadmill in his
Speaker 1: office with a medium regular in his hand. And it
Speaker 1: is and he's sipping it while he runs because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have time. He always has coffee during these hours,
Speaker 1: between these.
Speaker 2: Minutes, you know. And it's not even it's like a
Speaker 2: light jaw exactly, of course it is. And this coffee
Speaker 2: he's got a box of he's got a box of munchkins.
Speaker 2: And then fuck, well he didn't telling you whate about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this coffee is going everywhere. This is a discess. You
Speaker 2: cannot sip hot coffee and jog on a fucking trail.
Speaker 2: You cannot, And well you can, but you can't expect
Speaker 2: to come out close. All right, Listen, it's all it's done,
Speaker 2: like you have to. You better have a fucking he
Speaker 2: better have like a whole closet, a whole wardrobe of shirts,
Speaker 2: you know, to be ready to go right after fucking exercises.
Speaker 2: Just picture of your body is shaking like it does
Speaker 2: when you're doing the But I'll tell you, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, you know what's gonna happen. You know what
Speaker 2: you know what's kind of in right now is too
Speaker 2: are these these desk treadmills, you know these, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can while you're where you work. Yeah, you put up
Speaker 2: your fucking you have this elevated desk. My wife's one
Speaker 2: of the one of the people my wife used to
Speaker 2: work for. She used to do this all the time,
Speaker 2: all all zoom calls. She would be on the fucking
Speaker 2: treadmill with her desk up, and she'd be doing this ship.
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be a mask. It just makes
Speaker 2: me feel there's gonna be a mayor. Yes, okay, that
Speaker 2: does that. That's how he fucking does business. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be on the treadmill for fucking eight hours making deals
Speaker 2: and making policy. Ah okay, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it's wonderful. I mean just picture, you know, your
Speaker 1: bodygulf on the treadmill like you're jogging, and then picture
Speaker 1: you're trembling, sixty two year old hand trying to bring
Speaker 1: a styrofoam coffee cup to your lips. Oh fuck, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: fuck you hear this little small attempt to sip.
Speaker 2: Yes, why are you doing this at the same time?
Speaker 2: Because he's good, because you know, when you're trembling like that,
Speaker 2: you can't fucking aim. You know, you get no aims.
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine. He's getting he's finally taking control
Speaker 2: of his health exactly. Listen, he's taking the initiative. You know,
Speaker 2: he's being proactive.
Speaker 1: He's spilling his coffee all over himself for his grandkid's sake.
Speaker 2: And for the betterment of his life. Okay, he's bathing
Speaker 2: himself in fucking dunks to make because his life needs
Speaker 2: to be better.
Speaker 1: You really need to reduce the stress on your heart.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really getting to the point that we're
Speaker 1: concerned now in the same vein. Can you exercise like
Speaker 1: an Olympic rower on set heart?
Speaker 2: Please? Wait a minute. He's gonna have like a fucking
Speaker 2: like some kind of a neck tray, you know, around
Speaker 2: his neck. He's rowing and so he's got shot because
Speaker 2: he had jowls for days. A neck tray. How tremendous
Speaker 2: of a notion as that. Let alone and lift your
Speaker 2: head up and it just goes into your mouth. I
Speaker 2: love that. It sounds like something that like people would
Speaker 2: have started buying during COVID lockdown. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: to avoid to avoid any kind of hand you know tax,
Speaker 2: you know, could you're please put my coffee on my neck?
Speaker 2: Try place. God, you're putting my coffee on my neck right,
Speaker 2: look at the crispy pad tie on that thing. Just
Speaker 2: don't touch me, all right, just put on my neck
Speaker 2: tray place, thank you.
Speaker 1: They get door dash instructions. Is that he's dropping at
Speaker 1: the door. You like, place it on the guy's neck tray.
Speaker 1: And the neck tray like has like a forty inch
Speaker 1: arm that goes out and bi pleated the door step
Speaker 1: and retreats recoil that.
Speaker 2: Put it on my neck tray. Of course, all the
Speaker 2: people who buy the neck tray are like the most cranky,
Speaker 2: fucking senior citizens you'll ever meet, you know, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: they're so cantangerous, they're so distrustful of others that they
Speaker 2: need this fucking ray. That's good stuff. Anyway, what was
Speaker 2: talking about? What was the episode of Mulam Sibion fucking
Speaker 2: bit fucking getting hammering herself, taking it, getting it done
Speaker 2: just I mean, she gets off the thing and collapses
Speaker 2: like a bit like a baby dough that has yet
Speaker 2: to get just think about, like, you know, her her
Speaker 2: legs are fucking yellow.
Speaker 1: After that, she goes dog just like she's like fucking
Speaker 1: Daniel Stern. After it gets electrocuted in part two at
Speaker 1: the end, though, disgusting.
Speaker 2: That I wasn't ready for that at all? How did
Speaker 2: you have that one ready? Just something to put it
Speaker 2: in another snop? It's Saturday Nights mad, and of that
Speaker 2: guy going.
Speaker 5: To be.
Speaker 2: Wrestling fans doing my smooth smooth.
Speaker 7: Such I was after us, I was after rears.
Speaker 16: Down.
Speaker 2: You're getting that ass, Larry? How you doing is that
Speaker 2: you still? I'm stilling you. I know how you do it?
Speaker 2: You go, oh, have a symbian noise in there? Do
Speaker 2: you wish Google good luck? Ever? Looking at her the
Speaker 2: same again? Look at Lula ever again? So what is
Speaker 2: Wendy Rick? This guy? Olk said that?
Speaker 1: He said, the same guy that just wrestled Bob Orton
Speaker 1: and revolutionized Saturday Night Live, Saturday Night's.
Speaker 2: That's him. Same guy, Yeah, same guy web.
Speaker 1: So, when Wendy Rictor was asked by Danny Burke Holder
Speaker 1: for that aforementioned oral history piece about this night, she goes,
Speaker 1: I had Mola stabbing me in the back the whole
Speaker 1: time I was there. They had me wrestle her over
Speaker 1: and over again for like a year. Everywhere the matches
Speaker 1: were not good, and I was getting her all the time,
Speaker 1: so my memories are more like nightmares. When I did
Speaker 1: leave from there, it was time I had to go, amazing,
Speaker 1: say as she came out to she bought by Cindy Lauper,
Speaker 1: though not on the peacock version. And it's Wendy Richter
Speaker 1: versus the Fabulous Mula for the WWF Ladies Championship here
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night's main event. Mulla quickly rakes the eyes
Speaker 1: as Wendy Richer pursues her, and Wendy Richer drops to
Speaker 1: the canvas. Fabulous Mulla keeps sneaking in rakes from the
Speaker 1: front headlock position and some hair poles as well. Mulla
Speaker 1: then adjusts her breasts and Vince says, oh what you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh well, I say, Jesse's a little jaman of the
Speaker 2: chest area of the of the female anatomy pectoralis majors.
Speaker 2: Those are major pectoralysis, Jess the pectoralities of the female embodiment.
Speaker 1: Jesse's not quite short what she's doing? So Fabulous Mulla
Speaker 1: puts Wendy Richtor on the top rope and yanks, are
Speaker 1: you saying she's touching your titch? McMahon right, come right
Speaker 1: out and say it. What's your problem. Are you a bitch?
Speaker 2: Right? Are you a chauvinist? Do you not believe in
Speaker 2: female equality?
Speaker 17: Right?
Speaker 1: You're not showing it right now? Why does she have
Speaker 1: to worry about her chest being visible when men don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about the same thing. They come out here.
Speaker 2: I take my tits out all the time. How come
Speaker 2: Mula can't take hers out if she wants to, just
Speaker 2: because she has mammary glands, just because she feeds babies
Speaker 2: off of those.
Speaker 7: Hah hah huh.
Speaker 1: I have heard nothing to say, Jess. So fabulous Muller
Speaker 1: puts Winter writ on the top rope and yanks back
Speaker 1: on her, and then.
Speaker 2: They're very good. You're making fun of Mulla's enchiladas.
Speaker 7: I see.
Speaker 2: Torvendous.
Speaker 1: So when director gets tossed tough, the ropes over to
Speaker 1: the table area and they all kind of go for cover.
Speaker 1: Dave Wolf comes over as Fabulous Mulla does the bicep
Speaker 1: flex and they show Cindy getting up at her perch
Speaker 1: there at the end of the aisleway, and Vince for
Speaker 1: some reason.
Speaker 2: Says hello there.
Speaker 1: When they show Sidney Laupper, Fabulous Mulla keeping kicking Wendy
Speaker 1: Rictor to stop her from re entering the ring and
Speaker 1: then wait, wolf is allowed to be at fucking ringside? Yes,
Speaker 1: Fabus Mulla shouts, day, you know, well that's what she wanted.
Speaker 1: Fabulous Mulla sodded proclamation that said Cindy Lapper in particular
Speaker 1: was banned from ring. Sign so she was the one
Speaker 1: that hit her over the head with a loaded purse
Speaker 1: in the garden. So a fabous Mulla shouts down to
Speaker 1: Lapper from the ring down the aisleway, and Wendy Richter
Speaker 1: then takes that opportunity to hit her with a drop
Speaker 1: kick from behind and that sends Fabulous Mulla up and
Speaker 1: over the top ropes down onto the concrete when director
Speaker 1: goes out with a big right hand and Jesse says,
Speaker 1: big mistake from fabulous Mulla there taking a rye off
Speaker 1: the ball as Wendy Ricchtor loads Mulla back end of
Speaker 1: the ring, cut off of an iriship in a backdrop
Speaker 1: by Mulla as Vince calls her the Mullah one count.
Speaker 1: Vince says, not much of a cover there as Fabulus
Speaker 1: Mulla's pounding and scratching and head butting on her knees.
Speaker 1: Wendy Rictor then comes up and hits her. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she's something to the foot called a kick
Speaker 1: to the chest by Vince. I don't know exactly what
Speaker 1: she did. She kind of just nudged over her foot.
Speaker 1: Then fabulous Mulla to her knees on the ropes and
Speaker 1: grabs the top rope by Wendy Richtor. But Wendy Richter
Speaker 1: can lift her and dump her. That'll hurt, Vince says.
Speaker 1: Whatever she does, she does it again, and Mulla's back
Speaker 1: is to the canvas cover like gets a one count.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a mess.
Speaker 2: It's not great. No, no, it's it's it's awful. It's
Speaker 2: not even not great, it's just dreadful.
Speaker 1: Mulla kicking out at one is always hilarious. Uh, back up,
Speaker 1: Mulla jabs the gut, throws a chop of course, goes
Speaker 1: across the top rope and yanks her backwards again. She
Speaker 1: just kind of puts her throat on the top rope
Speaker 1: and pulls back on the rope. So many shady people
Speaker 1: at ringside, man, so many guys in the front row
Speaker 1: with like sunglasses on inside. I don't want to know, yep,
Speaker 1: I don't want to know.
Speaker 2: Come on, they're just they're loving what they're what they're
Speaker 2: feeling inside as from.
Speaker 1: What as for our match and time to go home?
Speaker 1: Fabulous Mulder picks her up, goes for a slam, but
Speaker 1: Wendy Richter answers with an inside cradle for the quick one, two,
Speaker 1: three and a big pop. In just four minutes straight,
Speaker 1: Wendy Richard defeats the Fabulous Mula here on NBC. These
Speaker 1: matches are six minutes, six minutes, four minutes, and we're
Speaker 1: having the time of our lives.
Speaker 2: I know. That's that's the thing these are. You know
Speaker 2: what's amazing is these matches are so fast. They're like
Speaker 2: Attitude Era fast, but they feel more complete than Attitude
Speaker 2: Era matches do.
Speaker 1: The Terry Funk match feels like a thirty minute classic.
Speaker 1: It's like eight minutes. Yep, absolutely because you just put
Speaker 1: the best stuff, you know. These these wrestlers were against
Speaker 1: each other all over the loop and all these untelevised
Speaker 1: house shows, working out what works and what doesn't, and
Speaker 1: when it comes time for a big spotlight show like
Speaker 1: a pay per view or a Saturday Night's Made event,
Speaker 1: they know what to edit out. We compared the Terry
Speaker 1: Funk matches on the Loop versus the one on NBC,
Speaker 1: and he just keeps the best stuff and he cranks
Speaker 1: up the dial on some things and makes it even
Speaker 1: more wild and crazy and impressive. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm there, you know, I'm there for the best version
Speaker 1: of what these two can do instead of of course,
Speaker 1: the first time they've ever worked together is on live
Speaker 1: television trying to figure it out, or at least the
Speaker 1: first time in a while that they've worked each other.
Speaker 1: Cindy Lauper then jumps up and comes racing to the ring.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a cool visual because right after Wendy wins,
Speaker 1: of course, now it's fair game for Cinndy Lappert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now she can go because she's not going to
Speaker 2: interfere in the match.
Speaker 1: Then she bounces up and races down the aisle and
Speaker 1: the camera follows her. There's just tremendous a jubilation. She's
Speaker 1: still fighting, by the way, This is where she fights
Speaker 1: to keep someone from grabbing her jacket from her hands,
Speaker 1: which is in her hand when she runs to the ring. Now,
Speaker 1: but Laper gets in the ring and embraces Richter and
Speaker 1: they bounce around, hugging and high fiving and Dave Wolf's
Speaker 1: in there as well, and I believe there's a famous
Speaker 1: shot in hear of them dancing in a circle.
Speaker 2: They would win. They do like a dosey dough type, so.
Speaker 1: Much jubilation, and then Richro flashes the belt in Mulla's face.
Speaker 1: It had a powder blue leather strap at the time,
Speaker 1: by the way, and Lapper tries to lift Richter in celebration,
Speaker 1: but you can't really do it and embrace for Dave
Speaker 1: Wolf and Vince said it's going to be difficult to
Speaker 1: equal this match for excitement, but if anyone can, it's
Speaker 1: the junkyard Dog to say, of course, nothing of his opponent.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, I think he's the most exciting part of
Speaker 2: the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Oh you wait, take a break. We come back and
Speaker 1: the lights are giving us those great spark those great
Speaker 1: like lines.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, the star yep yep, starburst effect.
Speaker 2: They are the starburst flares flares.
Speaker 1: Right, Gene is with Jyd and a woman in purple.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 14: You know everybody likes to do something special for their
Speaker 14: mother on Mother's Day. I had chunk yard Dog. You've
Speaker 14: gone hogwild. You brought your mom all the way up
Speaker 14: to New York for Mother's Day?
Speaker 11: What about it?
Speaker 2: You know, my mother never been in New York before,
Speaker 2: and I thought this was a very special time to
Speaker 2: bring it up for Mother's Daylight. Wish all the mother
Speaker 2: out there in all TV land. I have her mother, lady,
Speaker 2: and also my mother.
Speaker 14: All right, Bertha, you've got to be proud of a
Speaker 14: song that is soul, generous and so gibby, real.
Speaker 11: Real proud and real proud. I hope he'd be able
Speaker 11: to come hover to soon.
Speaker 14: All right, I thank you very much. Happy Mother's Day
Speaker 14: to you, and let's go up to the ring at
Speaker 14: Howard Finkel for the end production.
Speaker 2: So she's not that proud if she wants him to
Speaker 2: come home. No, not really actually probably disappointing that you know,
Speaker 2: he's not fucking you know, working for his daddy or
Speaker 2: something instead of instead of doing all this fake shit.
Speaker 1: Well's ironic that she wants him to come home when,
Speaker 1: according to Jyd's biography, she left home and left him
Speaker 1: abandoned as a child. Wow, no shit, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is Bertha, but Jyd's grandmother raised him because
Speaker 1: his father and mother were both out of the kitchen.
Speaker 1: This is from the King of New Orleans, How the
Speaker 1: Junkyard Dog became Fresh or Westn's first black superhero by
Speaker 1: Greg Klein. His mother, too, would disappear at times. Sylvester
Speaker 1: and his sister Christine were mostly raised by their grandmother
Speaker 1: r Z Lee Ritter, alongside their cousins Vera and Carl
Speaker 1: Ray Ritder. Sylvester also had a half brother, Calvin Coltson,
Speaker 1: who grew up elsewhere. Very few of Sylvester's friends and
Speaker 1: neighbors remember seeing or even hearing about his father, John
Speaker 1: wall and Bertha Ritter was gone long enough that her
Speaker 1: children and the people around them referred to r Z
Speaker 1: as their mother. The grandmother was referred to as Wow,
Speaker 1: and there was some speculation of this actually isn't j
Speaker 1: why D's mother, but it's but is in fact his grandmother.
Speaker 1: But there's no way this woman is old enough to
Speaker 1: be his grandmother, so this probably is. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure mom was all of a sudden, very very keenly
Speaker 1: interested in the boy as so.
Speaker 2: Oh the moment, the moment he was making money. I'm
Speaker 2: sure I'm sure she was like, I love you so much.
Speaker 2: I always believe fucking go exactly if it was. I
Speaker 2: always knew you do something, you.
Speaker 1: Know, if it wasn't for me, Little little things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, remembering like three vignettes.
Speaker 2: Always you don't I always. I always believed in you.
Speaker 2: That's what I did. I taught you how to be
Speaker 2: self reliant.
Speaker 1: And she's dressed in her Sunday best God.
Speaker 2: Bless her, Oh my god, sh fucking purple and everything.
Speaker 2: Hey boss, who's his opponent? The dog out chest out.
Speaker 20: On the other hand, Pete dirty, Generally speaking, you're much
Speaker 20: more predictable. I mean, we can look at that.
Speaker 21: I am not homicidal, suicidal or psychotic.
Speaker 20: McMahon, I don't. I don't recall anyone stating that you
Speaker 20: were misty. I just meant you are more predictable in
Speaker 20: terms of.
Speaker 11: I am unpredictable.
Speaker 15: I'm just as unpredictable as Johnny Ross and Charlie Fulton
Speaker 15: right here.
Speaker 17: I'm the do just by the way too. You.
Speaker 2: I work hard for that title, and I wanted the
Speaker 2: Duke that.
Speaker 11: Dot that's the baby. I came all the way from
Speaker 11: the Duke them.
Speaker 2: To get to head Duke Darty.
Speaker 20: Get a hold of yourself.
Speaker 11: I got a hold of myself.
Speaker 21: I am not suicidal, homizophrenic.
Speaker 2: Is he genocidal?
Speaker 11: I'm good as saying as he is.
Speaker 2: And a guy on a end, thank you t s
Speaker 2: A Titans. That's fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: He Dougherty said in a series of panels that Vince
Speaker 1: had one episode where he brought in not jobbers, not
Speaker 1: enhancement talent. He called them unsung heroes and folly at
Speaker 1: a time, the jabbronis of the era, like Jose Luis Vera,
Speaker 1: Steve Lombardi, Charlie Fulton. Uh and yes, in fact, the
Speaker 1: Duke of Dorchester, Pete Doherty sat with Vince on the
Speaker 1: set and Doherty was the only one with like a
Speaker 1: personality basically, and he he came in guns a blazing
Speaker 1: like a total maniac. Let's get to know Pete Doherty
Speaker 1: a little bit better, please, great article on the Globe
Speaker 1: about him and what he meant. H as kind of
Speaker 1: like a Boston original in the w w F Rings.
Speaker 1: I just emailed it to you and.
Speaker 2: I forgot who. I know it's in the Boston Globe,
Speaker 2: but I forgot who wrote the piece. Who's the author?
Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm opening up right now. I'll let you
Speaker 2: know in a moment. It is get the fuck out
Speaker 2: of here. By some unknown clown named Jack and who
Speaker 2: went to visit Pete Doherty at the Dukedom in East Falmouth, Massachusetts. Okay,
Speaker 2: my god, it had lunch with the man at the
Speaker 2: British Beer Company down the street. Holy, it was so
Speaker 2: much fun to get to interview Pete Doherty and spend
Speaker 2: some time with him. And this is what came. Local
Speaker 2: boy made bad too much delight. Boston wrestler knew how
Speaker 2: to lose. That's fucking fantastic. Pete Doherty didn't win much,
Speaker 2: but Boston loved him just the same. Nearly two decades
Speaker 2: after he first stepped into the wrestling ring, Doherty the
Speaker 2: Duke daw Shasta, was doing an on camera interview in
Speaker 2: a Boston garden locker room in the late nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2: The interviewer asked, what will you ever do if you win?
Speaker 2: He didn't think I'd have a comeback, Doherty remembered, I said, Hey,
Speaker 2: if I ever win a match, I'm gonna retire guy
Speaker 2: rules period. Oh my god, the challenge will be over.
Speaker 2: All I gotta do is win one and I'm done.
Speaker 2: Look at that that fucking picture by the way up
Speaker 2: top of this fucking it's like it looks like an animal.
Speaker 2: He has those two on the bottom row man when
Speaker 2: he oh, it really does. Dougherty first appeared before wrestling
Speaker 2: crowds and green tights, playing the friendly irishman, but he
Speaker 2: always felt he'd be better as a bad guy or
Speaker 2: quote heal and he soon dropped the the Celtic garb
Speaker 2: in favor of black tights, a biker vest, and shoulder
Speaker 2: length bleached blonde hair. Rounding out his image was a
Speaker 2: mostly toothless bottom gum line. He told fans he lost
Speaker 2: the teeth in the ring, though it was actually in
Speaker 2: an auto accident. Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 20: He told me that.
Speaker 2: It looked like two fangs. He already said I would
Speaker 2: never wear the denires in the ring. I would grab
Speaker 2: an em and act like I was biting it. Doherty
Speaker 2: carved his niche and wrestling by losing preliminary matches in
Speaker 2: an exciting manner, which generated enthusiasm for his up and
Speaker 2: coming opponent, who's fighting appeared more spectacular because of the
Speaker 2: amplified way Doherty would react when he was hit. Jack
Speaker 2: explains wrestling six paragraphs down, like in case you weren't
Speaker 2: aware wrestling is predetermined and fake. I didn't put that
Speaker 2: in there, and I should have, though you should have.
Speaker 2: Dan Muradi mad Arati Muradi was there when the Duke
Speaker 2: did finally win one, though he did not in fact
Speaker 2: retire on the spot. It was August nineteen ninety in
Speaker 2: Boston Garden and Doherty was wrestling a Samoan named Coup
Speaker 2: who ran and crashed into the corner of the ring.
Speaker 2: After Dougherty dodged him, the Duke rolled them up, recalled
Speaker 2: Murate of Melrose. MURATEI, a lifelong Boston Garden devotee, plans
Speaker 2: to gather Doherty and eight other grapplers from Garden matches
Speaker 2: past past at Suffolk Down Saturday for wrestle Fest. The
Speaker 2: video game didn't play. The video game only long, and
Speaker 2: even Doherty won't have to worry about absorbing any piled drivers.
Speaker 2: It will be a night of questions and answers, autographs,
Speaker 2: and mingling themed around forty years of raucous wrestling on
Speaker 2: Niland Street. Similar conventions have drawn good crowds in southern
Speaker 2: cities where wrestling was popular. You're not gonna see a show.
Speaker 2: You know you're not gonna see a show. A performance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get to meet the guys, these guys, Murati said.
Speaker 2: Murati promises appearances by wrestlers spanning all eras of garden grappling,
Speaker 2: from the look at you. You fucking did it, by
Speaker 2: the way, right there, garden grappling, fucking sun of the
Speaker 2: best who went to that fucking alliteration from the sixties,
Speaker 2: Walter Killer, Kowalski and Ox Baker from the seventies, the
Speaker 2: Iron Chic and Polish Power Ivan Putski from the eighties,
Speaker 2: the genius Lammi, powfo Mounth of the South to Jimmy Hart,
Speaker 2: Greg the Hammer, Valentine and Roade Warrior Animal, and from
Speaker 2: the nineties World Wrestling Entertainments Mick Foley and Dustin Rhodes
Speaker 2: who was formerly known as gold Dust. And there's Doherty
Speaker 2: sixty one, whose quirky stardom kept him off the Marquee
Speaker 2: but in front of Boston spectators in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2: Doherty's career is rooted in the traditions for which Murradi
Speaker 2: and the thousands more who turned out for monthly Garden
Speaker 2: Wrestling are nostalgic. He was raised in a Dorchester triple
Speaker 2: decker on South Monroe Terrace, where he was captivated by
Speaker 2: wrestling on television. After graduating from Hyde Park High School
Speaker 2: and serving three years in the Army, he worked out
Speaker 2: as a cable puller at General Dynamics in Quincy. What's that?
Speaker 2: What is General Dynamics? I a big industrial company? I
Speaker 2: got cham He got into wrestling after he met grapplers
Speaker 2: working out at a combat Zone gym and sought training
Speaker 2: in the ways of the ring. He hooked up with
Speaker 2: Vince McMahon Senior's world Wide Wrestling Entertainment outfit and had
Speaker 2: his first match in a Sauga's skating rink in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy one. Funny enough, there was no ring. Actually it
Speaker 2: wasn't even actually a show. It just happened to He
Speaker 2: just fucking had an impromptu match while everyone else was skating.
Speaker 2: Everyone else is at the Kowloon. Right after, he wrestled
Speaker 2: short stants in Georgia, Florida, Canada, and Kuwait in the
Speaker 2: early seventies, Doherty resolved to stay rooted in Boston. He
Speaker 2: also wanted the pension that came with full time work
Speaker 2: at General Dynamics, so wrestled in locations only within driving
Speaker 2: distance from Boston. By his own account, he'd often put
Speaker 2: in a day of wiring at General Dynamics from seven
Speaker 2: am to three pm, then push one hundred miles per
Speaker 2: hour in his nineteen seventy one LP convertible on the
Speaker 2: mass Pike at night en route to wrestling bookings as
Speaker 2: far as far away as Philadelphia and Baltimore. He often
Speaker 2: arrived late, and once was tardy at a wrestling event
Speaker 2: in all but in New York, where he was greeted
Speaker 2: sarcastically by wrestling great chief j Strongbow. Strongbow says me,
Speaker 2: in front of all the boys, Look here, Look who's here,
Speaker 2: the freaking Duke of DoD Chester, Doherty said. So it
Speaker 2: stuck weekly bookings and smaller local venues. Doherty estimates he
Speaker 2: wrestled in nearly every high school in Massachusetts, and monthly
Speaker 2: events at Boston Garden meant less milad for Doherty and
Speaker 2: a chance to raz hometown crowds infamous for their passionate
Speaker 2: love for good guys and equally passionate hatred for bad
Speaker 2: guys like Doherty, which was often expressed by bottle throwing,
Speaker 2: spitting and swinging you Now, Boston Gotten was the toughest
Speaker 2: place in the world of wrestle. Dougherty said, go to
Speaker 2: the ring. Coming from the ring, you had taken a
Speaker 2: wife on your hands. Yep f. That's pretty much what
Speaker 2: every uh I feel like whenever he uh Massachusetts native
Speaker 2: says about their life. At some point, Oh, I had
Speaker 2: to take my life in my own hands. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you that I was walking, you know, I was driving
Speaker 2: and DrAk and going to the movie in my own hands.
Speaker 2: He coded, he coded, he was in the back of
Speaker 2: that ambulance and he coded all they coded on I'll
Speaker 2: tell you you know, there's no joke. We all EMTs. Now,
Speaker 2: what the fuck does that mean? I know every other
Speaker 2: person you meet in the state works at some fucking hospital. Doctors, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I think I think that's that's kind of the prerequit
Speaker 2: to be a Massachusetts resident. You have to have worked
Speaker 2: in a medical office at some point. Yeah, at least
Speaker 2: been a nurse.
Speaker 1: If you're a woman from Massachusetts who hasn't worn scrubs,
Speaker 1: then there's something going on you.
Speaker 2: You're not really you were not born in Massachusetts, basically,
Speaker 2: is what it is.
Speaker 17: Like.
Speaker 2: I can't so it was so funny, like when when
Speaker 2: we graduated college and I saw and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: back in the day when I'd actually be on Facebook
Speaker 2: and I'd look around and I'd be like, like, looking
Speaker 2: at all these people that I knew from high school,
Speaker 2: and everyone's a fucking nurse. Everyone's a fucking nurse. Like
Speaker 2: that looked like it. I just want to I just
Speaker 2: want to. I see a over.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I just saw the ice coffee line at
Speaker 1: rush hour. There is not a nursing shortage in this town.
Speaker 2: Oh ship.
Speaker 17: Uh.
Speaker 2: The fans who ran into Dougherty at the at the
Speaker 2: ir Pub Eerie e Eerie Pub, you can spell that better.
Speaker 2: Was it your fault? Did you have a type I
Speaker 2: r E. Yeah, you'll have to let the Keltic you
Speaker 2: have to let the Celtic folks know. Then. At the
Speaker 2: Eerie Pub, though, would ask about his well being after
Speaker 2: a tough match, though many of them wished death upon
Speaker 2: him the night before. The good will stem from Dorry's
Speaker 2: ability to make opponents look good, a quality highly valued
Speaker 2: in a business where perception trumps all. He was a
Speaker 2: good man. He was good in the ring, said wrestling
Speaker 2: great Walter Killer Kowalski of Stonehm. That's right. I forgot I.
Speaker 1: Forgot I talked to Killer Kowalski for this article until
Speaker 1: I read this, and that's when I asked him. I said,
Speaker 1: why is it called the Boston Crab Killer?
Speaker 2: And he did not know?
Speaker 1: And I was so let down because I thought there
Speaker 1: was one person who would know. It would be a
Speaker 1: guy who was probably around when it was minted as such,
Speaker 1: and he was from Boston, so he probably would have
Speaker 1: had some interest in why it was called that. Nope,
Speaker 1: no clue, Nope, nothing, not a five clue.
Speaker 2: Yep. I mean what I think is hilarious, and I'm
Speaker 2: you know, this is just I love that that you
Speaker 2: do an article on fucking Pete Doherty. You talk to
Speaker 2: Killer Kowalski about Pete Doherty and don't do an article
Speaker 2: on killing.
Speaker 16: Is that true?
Speaker 1: That's the best part thing about Killer is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: He'd had fucking four hundred thousand articles written about him.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, who tossed a stone? Who tossed
Speaker 2: Dougherty around during his storied career, Hey go in the
Speaker 2: ring and the other guy beat him. I always won.
Speaker 2: The audience is disdained for the Duke soon warmed into
Speaker 2: a familiarity that turned the Duke of Dorchester into a
Speaker 2: fan favorite in Boston. Even though he behaved despicably in
Speaker 2: the ring, he has a cult following about him in
Speaker 2: this area, Muradi said today. The summary East Falmouth, home
Speaker 2: Dougherty moved to in the late eighties. He calls it
Speaker 2: the Dukedom. Yes, do dumb remember his hands up? That's
Speaker 2: fucking amazing, contains few mementos of his days in the ring,
Speaker 2: two framed pictures, programs, and a copy of No Holds Barred,
Speaker 2: a film produced like how did he fucking get Like?
Speaker 2: It's hilarious that he got into these primes situations? I no,
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I mean he's on. He technically
Speaker 2: made events. The first fucking Saturday's made event. He's in
Speaker 2: No Holds bar There right, a film produced by Vince
Speaker 2: muc Man nineteen eighty nine, featuring a brief Dougherty cameo
Speaker 2: sitting set in the basement. After two decades of kicking
Speaker 2: opponents in the groin behind the referees back, Doherty is
Speaker 2: leving the good life at home with his wife and
Speaker 2: one of two daughters, though his back and knees still
Speaker 2: bother him occasionally. He had, after all, taken much abuse
Speaker 2: over the years, and as he lay on the mat
Speaker 2: after countless beatings in the garden, he studied the Celtics
Speaker 2: championship banners which hung from the rafters. That bouncing a
Speaker 2: ball all around the cart and we're bouncing our bodies
Speaker 2: all around the run, right, It sounds like something like
Speaker 2: a fucking relative would say, Oh, yeah, they're doing all this,
Speaker 2: But I'm doing this fucking pieces of shit, and those
Speaker 2: guys were making we're making we're making megabucks, and we
Speaker 2: were making peanuts even though we were selling out the
Speaker 2: same building. He said, But we really had a hell
Speaker 2: of a time. That's fucking amazing good times at Pete Doherty.
Speaker 2: I was glad to see. I'm I don't remember. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was. I was in LA at the time.
Speaker 1: They had created a monster because they let me do
Speaker 1: that profile on John Cena. I remember, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can pitch all this stuff and
Speaker 1: they'll go for it.
Speaker 2: I just I was, I I'm I don't. I feel
Speaker 2: like you would have told me about this too. I
Speaker 2: don't remember. I don't remember this one at all.
Speaker 1: It was part of I did like a larger piece
Speaker 1: on the history of wrestling in Boston to go inside
Speaker 1: with with that, and then when I went down to
Speaker 1: see Pete, I was like, this is this kind of
Speaker 1: stands on its own.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they had a section that was always hungry for
Speaker 1: longer stories called.
Speaker 2: City Weekly, so I was like, fuck, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: That was the one where I put rival promoters in
Speaker 1: the same article without knowing it, and they were like,
Speaker 1: if I knew you were talking to that fucking asshole,
Speaker 1: I never would have. I was like, this is so
Speaker 1: is so New England, but right now, you know, it
Speaker 1: was like instead of like the massive coverage, you know,
Speaker 1: their their eye is on the fact that you know
Speaker 1: some guy.
Speaker 2: That they're If I known you were going to do that,
Speaker 2: I would have never let you out of you cockshack.
Speaker 2: I love it. Piece of Shift. The Duke.
Speaker 1: The Duke, that was fun. That really was fun. Going
Speaker 1: to hang with him for an afternoon. I wonder by
Speaker 1: some him. Later he came to a Ring of Honor
Speaker 1: show they did in Dorchester and I remember he got
Speaker 1: in the ring and he screened that.
Speaker 2: Best people in the world off from God and they
Speaker 2: all screamed, It's like, oh God, only one human being
Speaker 2: in the history of mankind has said that, with all
Speaker 2: due respect, right, no one's ever said that, just great,
Speaker 2: not even not even normal residents of Dorchester said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all they all live south without Georgester. Now anyway,
Speaker 1: some strange reason in the seventies they all moved away.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: He rips off his jacket and does the does the
Speaker 1: the dog. He's here to do business, grab them cakes,
Speaker 1: at least according to Peacock. Again, it's another one bites
Speaker 1: the dust on the original and he comes out holding
Speaker 1: his mom's hand in the spirit of Mother's Day.
Speaker 2: And yep, oh well, hey, I do have I do
Speaker 2: have finx announcement by the way of the of of
Speaker 2: Pte Doherty.
Speaker 18: In the ring at this time from Dorchester, Massachusetts, weighing
Speaker 18: two one hundred forty five pounds.
Speaker 17: The Duke of Dorchester, Pete Doherty.
Speaker 2: It's so tremendous, it's so great. There he is.
Speaker 1: And were you cringing like I was that one of
Speaker 1: these fans was gonna grab Bertha inappropriately on her way
Speaker 1: to the ring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, she's like all over the place.
Speaker 1: There is a moment where Jyd snaps his head around,
Speaker 1: like what's your problem?
Speaker 2: Man? Gets right in someone's face. Yeah, because they grabbed.
Speaker 1: They didn't grab her in appropriately, but they grabbed him
Speaker 1: and like stopped their progress. Wild wild stuff, wild scenes,
Speaker 1: as they say now, and you better believe Mel Phillips
Speaker 1: is lingering.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, around ring side, he's hungry.
Speaker 1: JD Predator seats his mom at ringside and slugs Doherty
Speaker 1: from the apron and drops him with the head button.
Speaker 1: Run away final match here on the first Saturday Nights
Speaker 1: Made event and the ring JD slugs Dorty comes up
Speaker 1: swinging at nothing in particular, does the Duke of Dorchester
Speaker 1: Irish whipping a big wind up in a lariat by
Speaker 1: the dog drops Doherty and he does you know the
Speaker 1: our our ror mouth thing he used to do. Yep,
Speaker 1: the dog is one of a kind. Vince Mcmandaclayer is
Speaker 1: of course, you know, we know eighty five, eighty four,
Speaker 1: eighty five In particular, they had designs and making JYD
Speaker 1: the number two baby face under Hogan. We talked about
Speaker 1: this when he did the whole Comania VHS tape for
Speaker 1: the Cossseum Home video collection and how JOYD is so
Speaker 1: prominently featured but the drug issues were just too much
Speaker 1: and he just became unreliable and it didn't really work out.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, in some ways this show
Speaker 1: is symbolic of that because Paul o Oren Dwarf is
Speaker 1: obviously coming up the rear as the number two baby
Speaker 1: face now right right now, the dog spot. You can
Speaker 1: never say that without it's either him or Patterson that
Speaker 1: comes up. The self Professor Duke of Dorchester.
Speaker 2: H here we go. This this, this is, this is
Speaker 2: abstually tremendous. Okay, this is one of the greatest fucking
Speaker 2: things I ever heard, and the visual really adds to it.
Speaker 16: Just listen, he self Professt Duke called Dorchester Pete Darty.
Speaker 16: I think problems when they get dared, big problems. Cardy
Speaker 16: messing up you teeth. He's gonna mess some hair as well.
Speaker 16: And the dog watch the Grand Pete Garty around his
Speaker 16: old gurry unique style.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's working seven to three at the fucking shipyard.
Speaker 2: On top of it, you know, he did fucking like
Speaker 2: can you imagine how fast he drove to fucking Long
Speaker 2: Island in the Camaro whatever Friday, I mean Friday fucking night.
Speaker 2: He's got rush.
Speaker 1: He's got to make a Saturday night show at the
Speaker 1: Spectrum in Philly.
Speaker 2: Exactly, God, exactly, not to mention a Sunday morning show
Speaker 2: in Lowell. All right, he rolled in Philly like four
Speaker 2: am on Saturday, like like this fucking guy, all right,
Speaker 2: he gets toss from the ring j Whitey grabs his
Speaker 2: hair and his mouth. The Duke's mouth extends maybe five inches, yes,
Speaker 2: all right, and all you see is this black from
Speaker 2: his hollow mouth, and then you see the fucking little fangs,
Speaker 2: his little fucking snaggle teeth on the bottom, and it's
Speaker 2: just like it's one of them. And then you hear
Speaker 2: this high pitched screech at like honestly, honestly, like you
Speaker 2: know what I see where Daniel Stern got his inspiration from.
Speaker 2: All right, it's sucking Duke of dog Chester and it
Speaker 2: is just one of the greatest. Like I just I
Speaker 2: rewound that maybe three times because it was so amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you isolated that I forgot about him squealing.
Speaker 1: Like ah, the screaming was just so tremendous, like what
Speaker 1: Mick Foley would do his mankind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Interesting and this is all happening right in front of
Speaker 1: Mama dog By the way, yes there observing it like
Speaker 1: it's Sunday.
Speaker 2: Which I would imagine that he probably cranked it up
Speaker 2: a few notches just just because she was They happened
Speaker 2: to be in front of her, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1: And Dorty even cocks his fist like he's gonna hit
Speaker 1: the mom and Jyd stops that and loads him back
Speaker 1: into the ring. Doughty pounces though on the dog as
Speaker 1: they re enter, and Vincess he's no slouch at all,
Speaker 1: but he has no effect on the on the dog.
Speaker 2: Here what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And Junkyard dog pounces right back in floors some with
Speaker 1: a right hand and a snapmare by the JYD and
Speaker 1: he goes vintage with those head butts down on all
Speaker 1: fours that he used to do. Yep, that draws an
Speaker 1: ouch from Ventor as well as Vince says. It's he's
Speaker 1: like a big bull mask if in there is the Jyd.
Speaker 1: Dorty hits the floor, refling in the count. Dorerty climbs up,
Speaker 1: gets cut off, tossed off the top rope ric flair
Speaker 1: style with a gorilla presslamb. Dorty came here to bump.
Speaker 1: They did listen listen, right, Doty Doerty knows what he
Speaker 1: has to do. Doherty here, Doherty is here to show
Speaker 1: the Long Island faithful exactly what it means to be
Speaker 1: a heel jobber in this business.
Speaker 2: All right. He is there to show you, all right,
Speaker 2: he's Pete Doherty is there to make stars. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Jesse says that one came from ten feet up, by
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Which again you do that math that they're they're not
Speaker 2: wrestlers are taller than the turn buckles, okay, yep, which
Speaker 2: means that the turn buckles are like five feet. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean maybe his head is ten feet, but he
Speaker 2: didn't have a ten foot fall. Okay, not even close
Speaker 2: the five falls as far as Jyd's arms can reach
Speaker 2: and right, ten feet exactly. Yeah. I always they always
Speaker 2: do that. They always make it seem like if you
Speaker 2: actually think about how tall everything is, you know, it
Speaker 2: makes no sense what they say, Like they always talk
Speaker 2: about like in the other like they talk about the
Speaker 2: like the ring post being like fifteen twenty feet high
Speaker 2: from the from the floor, and it's like, no, it's
Speaker 2: not possible. Like again, they're taller, they're taller than the
Speaker 2: apron buy a significant amount, Like the apron's got to
Speaker 2: be like four and a half feet and then you know,
Speaker 2: then you add five feet on top of that with
Speaker 2: the turn buckles. That's nine and a half feet. That's
Speaker 2: not fifteen feet. It's not twenty feet, right, no, right,
Speaker 2: And like this is twenty foot high steel cage. Like
Speaker 2: do you the wrestlers are more than half the height
Speaker 2: of the cage. Like the only twenty foot cage is
Speaker 2: the hell on hisself. That's twenty foot cage. You know.
Speaker 2: But like when they have the blue cage out there
Speaker 2: and they talk about a fifteen foot high steel cage, No,
Speaker 2: it's not like these guys are six feet and you know,
Speaker 2: six seven feet and like they're they're more than halfway
Speaker 2: up the fucking gage. Oh good stuff. Wrestling math Man
Speaker 2: is a bizarre thing.
Speaker 1: Well, the nation is getting introduced to wrestling math on
Speaker 1: this night, I would think, and.
Speaker 2: Some yeah fuks here okay, great.
Speaker 1: Now has a headful of Dougherty's hair and hitting those
Speaker 1: head butts rubbery legs, and Pete Doherty called out, it's
Speaker 1: so funny. Pete Doherty is the guy with the rubber
Speaker 1: legs on this show and he didn't have an lj N.
Speaker 1: They should have made one for him though.
Speaker 2: He should have just for shit. I mean, that would
Speaker 2: be a great collector's I'm sure.
Speaker 1: One of these novelty wrestling feeder companies that have sprouted
Speaker 1: up in the past decade have done one of him,
Speaker 1: because he he was one of those like deep cut
Speaker 1: guys that if you knew, you knew, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, Jyd with the atomic drop, and they
Speaker 1: talk about how much of an embarrassment it would be
Speaker 1: if the junk junkyard Dog lost this match on Mother's Day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's only that it's Mother's Day. It's that it would
Speaker 1: be to the Duke of Dorchester.
Speaker 2: That would be the biggest. So they cut to Mom.
Speaker 1: She's smiling but kind of apprehensive, I think, still about
Speaker 1: being there. They talk about earlier how she's never you know,
Speaker 1: left Louisiana, never been in New York before, or whatever
Speaker 1: the case. She doesn't really want to be there, let's
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 2: Oh no, she listens to the last thing. The only
Speaker 2: reason she's there is because she heard Vince McMann will
Speaker 2: give her a paycheck. She heard there's gonna be cake
Speaker 2: all over the room at the Yes, Matt too page check.
Speaker 1: J y d then lifts up Pete Doherty with a
Speaker 1: bit of a delay.
Speaker 2: You can tell that vinsic man, I'm not doing this
Speaker 2: for free. She trusts all them up at the end.
Speaker 2: I'm not going out there, mister McMahon. You know you
Speaker 2: said to me, I'm on TV, I'm gonna work for money.
Speaker 2: Your mother sure does love you, Sylvester.
Speaker 14: Oh she is.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what she is. A character, she said
Speaker 2: here on the w characters are welcome. According to Dick Everson.
Speaker 1: When he brought in Bertha Fay in the mid nineties,
Speaker 1: you gotta think, oh, for sure, he's always had a
Speaker 1: thing about you know, THEA characters. You know, like, yes,
Speaker 1: black moms like he He remember he had a Bobby Lashley,
Speaker 1: No was Shelton Benjamin. He hired an actress that looked
Speaker 1: just like this. He could be his mama. He just
Speaker 1: thought there was the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Because because he's racist and comes down you know, so
Speaker 2: uh yeah, so he did. And the thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: he's racist and doesn't understand that he is. That's the
Speaker 2: thing about Vindric Mann is that he doesn't understand that
Speaker 2: he actually is racist. That's funny.
Speaker 1: What's coming into relief is like Paul like, I don't
Speaker 1: know all these a lot of black wrestlers have going
Speaker 1: to a w and have kind of intimated like it's
Speaker 1: not a great place to be African American in these days,
Speaker 1: which I thought was fascinating in which one. That's one
Speaker 1: thing about Vince, like really as as much as he
Speaker 1: could perpetuate stereotypes, yeah.
Speaker 2: He did, he did. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: he did lean into some stuff for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole time, there was always a spot at
Speaker 1: the table and it's and it's it's it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: like a token spot. That that was a problem with wrestling.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, we have one black star
Speaker 1: and that's it. That's enough.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 2: That was always so right.
Speaker 1: That was my junk yard. Dog was a fucking millionaire.
Speaker 1: Was because the promoters had that mentality. Although he was
Speaker 1: exceptionally talented and had exceptional charism, I should say it
Speaker 1: was good on the stick. He was the man for
Speaker 1: the job, no question. But but that was the mentality
Speaker 1: we really just need one, uh at that time, and
Speaker 1: but now Vince was all you know, Vince was always
Speaker 1: on the hunt for black Stars and and and took
Speaker 1: a particular interest in in pushing them put Kobe Kingston over,
Speaker 1: although yuh, the lawsuit tells us perhaps for different reasons
Speaker 1: than we would have liked to have thought. Yes, yep,
Speaker 1: but in fact that that's an interesting one. So j
Speaker 1: Wyde lifts in the delay in a big power slam
Speaker 1: that gets the one, two, three, and uh. In three
Speaker 1: minutes and fifteen seconds. The junk Yard Dog defeats Pete
Speaker 1: Doherty here at Saturday Night's main event. No react and whatsoever.
Speaker 1: They cut to one fan who's standing with his hand raised.
Speaker 1: Something went wrong clearly here because you see Jyd looking
Speaker 1: down on Doherty like he's not done with the match,
Speaker 1: and he's very slow to get up from his knees
Speaker 1: after the successful three count, and you can tell he's
Speaker 1: thinking about what to do. I think I think he
Speaker 1: expected Doherty to kick out, honestly, or that there was
Speaker 1: more of the match to do. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: it was, but it's very strange.
Speaker 2: Asked him.
Speaker 1: I know I should have asked him. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: really have this fresh in my mind, that I didn't
Speaker 1: have a streaming service to look it up, but I
Speaker 1: would have I would have definitely asked him about this,
Speaker 1: realizing when you look at the whole sweep of his career,
Speaker 1: this was the most exposure he had had, was this, ma.
Speaker 2: I don'lt imagine. This's got to be the biggest thing
Speaker 2: he ever did.
Speaker 1: He had a big match on that final night at
Speaker 1: the Garden show they did in ninety five before they
Speaker 1: closed down the old Garden. They played it up a
Speaker 1: lot because he was the local guy.
Speaker 2: So that might be it. But as far as I, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's STI alive, that's crazy. I thought he would have
Speaker 2: been gone by now. To me, he felt he was
Speaker 2: eighty when I went to visit. He looked eighty in
Speaker 2: this fucking match. I know, you know he's not even eighty.
Speaker 2: He's seventy nine. It's wild. He'll be eighty in a
Speaker 2: couple of days, actually be eighty, and he'll be eighty
Speaker 2: in uh five days. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it says design. He was called one of
Speaker 2: his names the designated hit Man. I never heard of
Speaker 2: that one. Brett the Desert it hit man Hard.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this is right around the time that they
Speaker 1: first started calling Brett the Hitman. I saw an episode
Speaker 1: of Primetime where Jesse says Brett Hart as a new
Speaker 1: nickname because this is where.
Speaker 2: Like Annville is a hit man. Yeah, that's what they said.
Speaker 1: But this is where Anvil came in for like two
Speaker 1: weeks before Brett Hart did and and did some you know,
Speaker 1: powered squash matches at the garden and stuff before Brett
Speaker 1: came in, right after e Vince bought out ste And
Speaker 1: you know, Anvil was temporarily and he was with Jimmy Hart.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was temporarily with Heen and I
Speaker 1: think he may have been. But they presented Anvil as
Speaker 1: like this new powerhouse singles heel, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Brett shows up and their tag team. It's only it's
Speaker 1: in a matter of weeks between WrestleMania one and this
Speaker 1: show that it all goes down. And it's so funny
Speaker 1: to hear them talk about Brett like this newcomer, you
Speaker 1: know that they're curious about. But yeah, so the mom
Speaker 1: comes in the ring and they dance.
Speaker 2: Because I'm sy, I'm just looking up some some quick
Speaker 2: stuff on on on the duke. Here does Brett talk
Speaker 2: about him in his book that hen look it up
Speaker 2: because he beats him in a King of the Ring
Speaker 2: in ninety one. Open. Yeah he uh, Dougherty, I guess replaced.
Speaker 2: Uh he replaced the tornado not surprisingly? Oh really? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not the book interesting. I never knew that he
Speaker 2: writes about everything else. He doesn't run up. He fucking
Speaker 2: doty idiot, fucking breads.
Speaker 1: Supposed to kick out another book coming out focused on
Speaker 1: match by match recollections.
Speaker 2: All right, he'll be in that one. Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: We'll have some more talk about pat roach. My god,
Speaker 2: is j Y d heaving after this match? He is,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, bathing so heavily like that. Listen, listen
Speaker 2: he is. He is sucking wind like a kid sucks
Speaker 2: down a fucking milkshake.
Speaker 1: And the mom gets up on the apron and has
Speaker 1: a hard time getting under the middle rope that they manage,
Speaker 1: and they do the dance. They boogy a little bit,
Speaker 1: so listen he if yeah, he barely boogies. All right,
Speaker 1: I told you he is so fucking ghasted, and.
Speaker 2: It's just so Vince can say, I wonder if the
Speaker 2: dogs had to get down. Oh yeah, look at this.
Speaker 2: He loves that, and he says, oh yeah, mama, yeah,
Speaker 2: and she hardly does anything. Mama gets down. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: love mama getting down.
Speaker 1: And Vince reminds you me that we're going to give
Speaker 1: you a Mother's Day surprise with Cindy Lauper to close.
Speaker 2: Out this show. And then everybody wants go to break to.
Speaker 1: Come back, and there's a party scene. It looks like
Speaker 1: the same facility they rented out for Butcher Overshawn's wedding.
Speaker 2: That they tracked. I imagine that it probably is the
Speaker 2: fact that they were welcome back is a fucking miracle.
Speaker 2: I bet it's there. I bet it's like a fucking
Speaker 2: set or something in there in there in any Titan Towers. No, no,
Speaker 2: this is no.
Speaker 1: They didn't have anything at Titan Towers. Then, besides the
Speaker 1: control room, they taped TNT and ownings mills may okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: now this was the this was something they rented. I
Speaker 1: remember Steele saying they rented a place to do that,
Speaker 1: and that everyone got so drunk that they they swore
Speaker 1: by the time it was over and the cake was everywhere,
Speaker 1: and that woman was remember the Samonans grabbed that woman
Speaker 1: by the hair, and we're like, oh, yeah, for she
Speaker 1: had a fucking panic attack because she really thought that
Speaker 1: they were going to like assault her. And everyone's slipping
Speaker 1: and sliding that there's no way they're going to air
Speaker 1: this because no one never done this for pro wrestling before.
Speaker 1: This was like heels and faces in the same banquet hall.
Speaker 2: It was so stupid. I were Aaron at Pale, that's
Speaker 2: great stuff. And so this is just so weird.
Speaker 1: And this is another page out of that book. Trying
Speaker 1: to bring that to NBC Primetime or NBC Network Television. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Bertha.
Speaker 2: She's there. They interview her quickly. She says she's real proud,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And you know what I love too
Speaker 2: about this fucking scene is that everybody, first of all,
Speaker 2: you get this number one, you've got this, you get heels, Yep,
Speaker 2: you do invited like like like Sydney Lauper invited her enemies.
Speaker 2: Yes she did to this thing, okay, and and and
Speaker 2: but they're all in a line, like they're all in
Speaker 2: like a receiving line so they can face the camera right,
Speaker 2: and it's so awkward and so phony stand there like that.
Speaker 2: But the best part is seeing the iron cheek and
Speaker 2: Nikolai Volkov just standing around holding disposable cups in their hand.
Speaker 2: My god, like just imagine, like again, you're just like
Speaker 2: at a at a at a at a function, at
Speaker 2: like a party, and like they're just standing around, like
Speaker 2: you know, just talking and drinking from their fucking you know,
Speaker 2: plastic cups in full ring wear too, and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: you know, he's still wearing his fucking Russian hat and
Speaker 2: everything amazing, just hilarious.
Speaker 1: She says, gene me and him sick and tone of
Speaker 1: Cyndi Lauper and that's fat Lue Albano and a band
Speaker 1: was like, hey, there's a chance to get in the frame.
Speaker 2: Hey, and she has invited.
Speaker 1: They invited him too late to get his mom out there,
Speaker 1: and Volkov's crying about how his mother's in Moscow and
Speaker 1: she can't be here. And Vlassie is with this young
Speaker 1: blonde woman and he calls her his mother, Laura.
Speaker 2: Laura. Yeah, that's right. It's like maybe I think, like
Speaker 2: forty years younger than him. Totally.
Speaker 1: She's some model. I'm sure they hired to bring in
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, I'd love to know anybody
Speaker 1: that can identify her or be fascinating because I'm always
Speaker 1: obsessed with like these these short little casting decisions they
Speaker 1: make for these skits back then these people end up
Speaker 1: in the world of wrestling for like twenty five seconds,
Speaker 1: I know, and they're like they're they're they're in so
Speaker 1: many ways like massively important, right, you know, because like
Speaker 1: you just like, why.
Speaker 2: Are they there? Why them? How did that happen? What
Speaker 2: exactly what went on to to have this person be
Speaker 2: there in that moment? I need all that information.
Speaker 1: So Jeane's about to, uh, you know, try to investigate
Speaker 1: whether this is really Freddy Blassie's mother, and Freddy BLASTSI
Speaker 1: puts a stop to that. Albano has a speech, not
Speaker 1: a surprise, Let's says something about how Blassi that's definitely
Speaker 1: not his girlfriend, et cetera. They were chasing this is
Speaker 1: what Blassie has a poem. Okay, they were just remember Albano,
Speaker 1: when Lassie were chasing each other around minutes ago, an
Speaker 1: hour ago, they were trying to kill each other. Albano
Speaker 1: You're somebody special, can't you see? Because without your mother's
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be Oh, he says before May the Good
Speaker 1: Lord Jesus bless you all, and you Katrina most of all.
Speaker 1: Katrine rather is Katrine Dominique is Cidney Lauper's mother's name,
Speaker 1: and she's there. Lapper is not her real last name,
Speaker 1: it's a stage name. So there is Ruth Hogan's back,
Speaker 1: the same Ruth ho she celebrated in the locker room
Speaker 1: of the Garden when Hogan pincheeked when the Belt in
Speaker 1: January eighty four. His father was there as well. Yep,
Speaker 1: we covered that when we did that show to kick
Speaker 1: off last year. And Ruth is back in our lives,
Speaker 1: and Hogan says, this is a very special day with
Speaker 1: a special lady in a special victory. I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of good friends here and we're all happy, except
Speaker 1: for Volkoff and Blassy.
Speaker 2: Those are enemies, man.
Speaker 1: So at least Hulk is doing something to acknowledge right
Speaker 1: the awkwardness of being in the same room with Heels.
Speaker 1: It's particularly the one he pinned for the championship the
Speaker 1: year before, So there's a gene now with Cindy hope
Speaker 1: everyone's having a good time. She's having a wonderful time,
Speaker 1: is uh Sidney Lauper's mom. And I'm so pleased about
Speaker 1: this special occasion because Katrine says, because now mother's all
Speaker 1: over the world will be so recognized for the job
Speaker 1: they'd done with their children, or what the fuck that's
Speaker 1: supposed to mean.
Speaker 2: I mean they weren't before. I understand. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: Mother's Day, Wesday's been a holiday long before Saturday's main event.
Speaker 1: I'm looking into this mother's eyes and we've got our
Speaker 1: We've got a carne on her hands. She's a carney.
Speaker 1: You can tell she's more than ready for this. Poor
Speaker 1: Wendy with no mom, has to wish her mom a
Speaker 1: happy Mother's.
Speaker 2: Day via screen. It's like, no, no, listen, we have
Speaker 2: enough moms here.
Speaker 1: Did tell CBS that oral history article quote. I was
Speaker 1: hurt that my mother wasn't invited, But that's kind of
Speaker 1: how it was with the women's wrestling. You gotta work
Speaker 1: twice as hard to get half the recognition and pay.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Jean says, this is your day, and Mulla walks in
Speaker 1: with a fucking Zeus costume on for some reason. I
Speaker 1: mean literally the costume Tony Lister wore, Tiny Lister ward.
Speaker 2: I bet I bet they, I bet they they won't.
Speaker 2: We got this Mua use him to Zeus, Huh, what
Speaker 2: do you think, Zeus?
Speaker 1: She wants to know how can you have a party
Speaker 1: without inviting Mulah? I want to know how can you
Speaker 1: have a party and invite Mula. There's a big ass
Speaker 1: cake there, so we know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I want to know, how can you invite Mula to
Speaker 2: a party?
Speaker 1: She starts coming in and renting a raven and Jean
Speaker 1: at one point literally says to her face our cameras,
Speaker 1: if you would she's done. She's not even paying an
Speaker 1: attention to the fact that everyone's clearly been instructed to
Speaker 1: face forward.
Speaker 2: As you pointed out, all she's thinking about is fucking
Speaker 2: Wendy Richteres all right, and fucking doing anything. You can
Speaker 2: do anything she can to fucking take him, take him,
Speaker 2: take her down.
Speaker 1: Take he out of the knees. So she's face to
Speaker 1: face with Cindy Lapper is a fabulous Mula. I have
Speaker 1: a daughter, and I raised her right. I didn't raise
Speaker 1: her like she raised you talking to Lapper's mother, and
Speaker 1: you're about the lousiest looking dream yes, stream she calls
Speaker 1: Katrina the lousiest looking thing I've ever seen. You look
Speaker 1: worse than you look in the video. Cindy gets in
Speaker 1: her face. Don't you talk to my mother like that?
Speaker 1: Points to her clothes and what is this supposed to be?
Speaker 1: The way bull is dressed up? She's going on about
Speaker 1: this thing here with a multicolored hair. We call them
Speaker 1: a scare crow, making fun of Cidy Lapper's multicolored hair
Speaker 1: where I come from? And these look worse? And Lapper says,
Speaker 1: did they rescue you with the UFO on the way today?
Speaker 1: Because she is dressed like in a spacesuit? Yah Ellis says,
Speaker 1: you don't even know what that is? A UFO, and
Speaker 1: then Bullis says, you don't even know either. You don't
Speaker 1: even know that they You didn't know that they'd scoop
Speaker 1: you up and take you away with the other scarecrows
Speaker 1: or whatever you are. So Molla's really just reaching here
Speaker 1: for grasping its straws talking about scarecrows?
Speaker 2: Is that what you call her?
Speaker 1: Mulla says, yes, mother, No, Cindy says, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what you call fashion. That's what my hair is. That
Speaker 1: is what you call fashion.
Speaker 2: Oh cool.
Speaker 1: Then Mulla goes to the mom and you, how do
Speaker 1: you call yourself a mother? You want to see my
Speaker 1: stretch marks, Mullah, I'll show you that. Say that, Oh God,
Speaker 1: I want to see my stretch marks. You want to
Speaker 1: see my stretch marks?
Speaker 11: Mullah?
Speaker 2: You don't think I'm a ma bahuh? Well, are you
Speaker 2: a fucking cunt? Right?
Speaker 1: Then she says Katrine. She looks more like Latrine to me.
Speaker 1: So that's the piperline reprised. And they're shouting and shouting,
Speaker 1: and Mom gets in and shoves Mulla and into the cake.
Speaker 1: And fortunately, on first take, Mulla completely misses this huge
Speaker 1: sheet cake that's on the table and they have to
Speaker 1: like hit the ground and pretend they have the cake
Speaker 1: in their face and come up smearing it all over
Speaker 1: their face. And Jeane is supposed to fall into the cake,
Speaker 1: and he comes up with a pretty good cover. He's
Speaker 1: got a missus doubt fire cream pie face, and Mulla's like,
Speaker 1: look what you've done to us now? And then there's
Speaker 1: this hilarious jump cut because they decide to retake Mulla
Speaker 1: taking cake to the head, so they have they have fucking.
Speaker 2: Who does it? Is it Cindy? Yeah, Cindy picks up
Speaker 2: a piece of cake.
Speaker 1: And just wax mul over the head with it. The
Speaker 1: worst jump cut you've ever seen. It's so stupid, it's
Speaker 1: so campy, and they so pretend that it's by design.
Speaker 1: And and Jeane says, he goes, I don't mind telling you,
Speaker 1: He says, I don't mind telling you during all this craziness.
Speaker 1: He says, I don't mind telling you. As uh Mulla's
Speaker 1: recovering from the cake shot.
Speaker 2: Enough is enough.
Speaker 1: I'm going ahead to the dry cleaners, he says. Then
Speaker 1: Mula stands up, throws cake across the room and totally
Speaker 1: loses her balance and falls down at the knee, lands.
Speaker 2: On her ass a goofball.
Speaker 1: She got a red face and she looks off off
Speaker 1: to the camera like, oh shit, like I really fucking
Speaker 1: hurt myself there as Jeane goes on and on and
Speaker 1: we fade to black.
Speaker 2: Oh and that's that.
Speaker 1: George Steele told Danny brook Holder to me, the biggest
Speaker 1: change professional wrestling came and this is when we became
Speaker 1: total entertainment without a doubt. And it was a cartoon
Speaker 1: over the top, but you were John's wedding on TNT.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards they had the reception. Vince went out
Speaker 1: and got a lot of booze, so everybody was pretty
Speaker 1: well stoned. They were drinking a lot when we did
Speaker 1: that reception. We had that big fight afterwards and tore
Speaker 1: up the place. That was a rented place.
Speaker 2: It was not a set.
Speaker 1: The owners went nuts when we started throwing pies and everything.
Speaker 1: I went up to Vince and I put my head
Speaker 1: on his shoulder and said, son, you're not going to
Speaker 1: show this on TV, are you? He says, I sure am.
Speaker 1: I said, you're going to kill the business. He said,
Speaker 1: we'll see. They showed that three times on the USA
Speaker 1: network and wrestling went from number seven and number one
Speaker 1: on USA.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Back to the arena, Vince and Jesse wrapping things up.
Speaker 1: Highlight for you, Jess, I got this here for this
Speaker 1: closing bit.
Speaker 16: Here for him, Jesse Ventura, the highlight of the evening
Speaker 16: is thus far for you.
Speaker 12: The highlight for me was when Cowboy Bob Morton and
Speaker 12: Piper's Pit annihilated mister Blunderful Paul Order.
Speaker 2: That was my highlight tonight.
Speaker 20: What about haul Poginson sectional victory.
Speaker 2: I thought it was tight.
Speaker 12: I thought it was slanted. I thought the champion broke
Speaker 12: every rule that was to break.
Speaker 16: Vince McMahon, all right, well on the last you have
Speaker 16: the views of Jesse the body Ventura, and we'll be
Speaker 16: back right after.
Speaker 2: That commercial break.
Speaker 16: That's capacity crowd filing out of the Nassau County Coliseum.
Speaker 16: We certainly hope that you had an extraordinary time.
Speaker 18: We certainly did so.
Speaker 16: So long from the NADAF County Coliseum on Saturday nights
Speaker 16: made events.
Speaker 2: There. You have it, everybody, you can go to bed now.
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