Speaker 1: But let's talk more youths, talk more college footballer Buddy
Speaker 1: Josh Furlough from KSL on a Monday Josh, Happy Monday, man.
Speaker 2: How are we doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How about yourself?
Speaker 2: Good buddy, appreciate the time.
Speaker 1: So just a macro question, is it possible that we
Speaker 1: have two elite college football teams in our state?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think there is. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: we b what you did to Kansas State, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that's that's really impressive. I still don't know
Speaker 3: if we learned a ton about their offense against a
Speaker 3: really tough team because of all the turnovers, but I
Speaker 3: think were it's safe to say that their defense is
Speaker 3: pretty impressive. And it's fun to be able to have
Speaker 3: a second team in the state that is ranked and
Speaker 3: in doing well. So I'm curious to see the trajectory
Speaker 3: of both these teams and kind of how it all
Speaker 3: shakes out and if it still goes well. I mean
Speaker 3: that that match up between the two teams at right
Speaker 3: Cycle Stadium is going to be pretty electric. So you
Speaker 3: have to like that, you know, as just a fan
Speaker 3: of of goodness, good sports in the state. Right and
Speaker 3: so I think it's it's really a fun opportunity to
Speaker 3: be able to have both teams that are doing really well.
Speaker 1: So, Josh, I'm sure you because I've heard from a
Speaker 1: lot of people both in real life and I try
Speaker 1: not to live on the intranet, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: part of the deal, so you get emails, you get dms.
Speaker 1: Very frustrated with the situation with the lack of information
Speaker 1: about Cam Rising and Utah football. That of course a
Speaker 1: little PTSD from a year ago. And I started out
Speaker 1: the show today with a simple opinion that Intel coach
Speaker 1: Witt is told that he is mandated to report injuries
Speaker 1: like they do in pro football. He's just going to
Speaker 1: keep doing this. His job is to win, it's not
Speaker 1: to tell you or I who's playing quarterback for him.
Speaker 1: I understand the frustration, and I do think because of
Speaker 1: the dynamic that sports are now in bed with gambling
Speaker 1: partners and gambling apps, at some point there will be
Speaker 1: enough noise made by business partners or college football to say, look,
Speaker 1: there are hundreds of million of dollars on the line
Speaker 1: now based off of who is your quarterback. At some
Speaker 1: point they're gonna be mandated to do this. But until
Speaker 1: they are there. I'm not going to say a word,
Speaker 1: so give me your thoughts on the entire dynamic. I
Speaker 1: get the frustration, but I also understand why it is
Speaker 1: the way that it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, as much as Farans want that information,
Speaker 3: and trust me, I want that information as well. Having
Speaker 3: to spend each and every week trying to sit here
Speaker 3: and find the status of the starting QB is not
Speaker 3: that ideal. Even putting in an injury mandate. I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's going to change a time, especially with
Speaker 3: what they want to do. I mean, if you look
Speaker 3: at let's say the NBA or the NFL, Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: gonna have certain metrics to say, Okay, you have to
Speaker 3: you have to tell it by this time, But most
Speaker 3: of those times are still a game time decision. So
Speaker 3: if Kyle wants to make Cam a game time decision,
Speaker 3: there's nothing that changes from this Saturday, right, They're going
Speaker 3: to throw him out there. They're going to see if
Speaker 3: he can go. Maybe they have to make the declaration
Speaker 3: an hour before instead of five minutes before. But it's
Speaker 3: one of those things that's going to be exploited no
Speaker 3: matter what happens, and so it's just kind of the
Speaker 3: nature of things, right. I mean, I think they were.
Speaker 3: They were really optimistic about Cam and being able to
Speaker 3: get out there, not being able to understand fully how
Speaker 3: he was going to hill after stitching get out of
Speaker 3: his hand, and is tough, and that's why you started
Speaker 3: to see Isaac sing Moore reps since the week went on.
Speaker 3: It's just a tough situation because I don't like on
Speaker 3: one hand, like I understand people say it's gains and
Speaker 3: shit by winning him, and to some extent it is,
Speaker 3: but I think they really just wanted to see how
Speaker 3: he would respond in practice or not in practice, but
Speaker 3: in the pregame's warm up, and that's when you make
Speaker 3: your declaration, right, So maybe it forces them to shift
Speaker 3: this into Friday or some other day, But I don't
Speaker 3: know that it's really going to go that far away.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not really going to change anything. Teams
Speaker 3: are still going to have to scheme for both quarterbacks
Speaker 3: or whatever injury may be. It just might give us
Speaker 3: a little bit more clarity, but I don't know that
Speaker 3: it gives us a ton more. So.
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, this is where I'm at with it.
Speaker 2: There's a real chance.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a conspiracy theorist in this space or
Speaker 1: other spaces. I just don't have the energy to waste
Speaker 1: my time doing such things. But if I had to guess,
Speaker 1: he's hurt and they're trying to get him back, and
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, he'll be back. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: remember anecdotally a number of years ago when Carlos Boozer
Speaker 1: was here and Jazz fans were up in arms about
Speaker 1: his inability to stay healthy. I had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Scott Layden, who was Jerry's assistant at the time, and
Speaker 1: I said, what's the deal with Booze?
Speaker 2: He's like, he just hurt. He's hurt, That's all it is.
Speaker 2: He's hurt and we're trying to get him back.
Speaker 1: That's my best guess here with the Cam stuff, any
Speaker 1: inside as to where we're at with the progress and
Speaker 1: potentially who could be under center coming up Saturday against Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the hard part nowadays in college football
Speaker 3: is you know, somebody like Cam was going to get
Speaker 3: a lot of money from Nil, and so when he
Speaker 3: starts missing time, that just kind of causes problems with
Speaker 3: the fan base that they want to see him play
Speaker 3: and for good reason, and so then he starts taking
Speaker 3: a lot of the heat, like, oh, well, he's just
Speaker 3: sitting out because he can get paid either way. The
Speaker 3: reality is is he is hurt. You saw when he
Speaker 3: was warming up, he had a glove on and he
Speaker 3: was growing fine in terms of being able to make
Speaker 3: the throws. There were you know, he got it as
Speaker 3: far as I believe, like forty five maybe close to
Speaker 3: fifty yards being able to throw in the air without
Speaker 3: actually people rushing him. But you can tell that there
Speaker 3: just wasn't, you know, some velocity there, some zip to
Speaker 3: the ball he was he kind of had a different
Speaker 3: mechanics with his arm where he was just trying to
Speaker 3: kind of push through the pain, almost like he was
Speaker 3: trying to get there. It didn't look like it caught
Speaker 3: him discomfort in terms of pain, but he was just
Speaker 3: a step flow. And so like, I think there's a
Speaker 3: world where Cam can play, right, Like, I think he
Speaker 3: can go out there and he can play. But they're
Speaker 3: looking at this and saying, Isaac is in a spot
Speaker 3: where is it ideal to have him against you know,
Speaker 3: a ranked team in an opposing venue. Know, but he's
Speaker 3: going to give us a much better shot than camons.
Speaker 3: I think if this was last year where you had
Speaker 3: somebody like a Bryson Barnes or a Nate Johnson or something,
Speaker 3: maybe you push it a little bit more. Maybe you say, Okay, Cam,
Speaker 3: we're going to put you out there, We're going to
Speaker 3: rely heavily on this run game and make you just
Speaker 3: throw a couple of short passes type thing. But I
Speaker 3: think they have the luxury now saying you know, we've
Speaker 3: got Isaac. He's going to make his mistakes, he's going
Speaker 3: to have his problems, but he's still so much better
Speaker 3: than what we've had, and then our defense is gonna,
Speaker 3: you know, fix everything else up for us. So I
Speaker 3: don't know that this is a situation of Cam saying,
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't have the moxie to play, or
Speaker 3: he's just kind of resting on. No. I mean, this
Speaker 3: is a guy that's a competitor. You see him on
Speaker 3: the field. Literally all the complaints that people have about
Speaker 3: him is he's too much of a competitor. He wants
Speaker 3: to be out there, he wants to get in the
Speaker 3: thick of it. So why can't it flip for him
Speaker 3: when he's sitting out right like, I'm not here to
Speaker 3: defend Cam by any means. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: it's a guy that's hurt, He's trying his best. He
Speaker 3: wants to be on the field as much as anybody.
Speaker 3: It's just a situation where he's just not at one
Speaker 3: hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Some good points in there.
Speaker 1: I do want to follow up because there's always been
Speaker 1: kind of both an unspoken and spoken rule in media
Speaker 1: as it pertains to college athletes, like, look, these are
Speaker 1: i'm sures that don't get paid, and they're essentially employees
Speaker 1: in a sweatshop that's being built on their backs. They
Speaker 1: don't get a piece of it. So it always felt
Speaker 1: a little bit unfair to go at like a nineteen
Speaker 1: year old who ultimately isn't being paid for what he's
Speaker 1: doing and he's just doing it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Obviously scholarship that conversation is a different deal. But to
Speaker 1: your point about the money, like it or not, Josh,
Speaker 1: as you know, it does change the way people are
Speaker 1: going to view your lack of availability. If the reports
Speaker 1: are true, the cameraon rising is making seven figures to
Speaker 1: play quarterback for Utah, and a lot of that money
Speaker 1: is coming from season ticket holders, boosters and alumni. Guess
Speaker 1: what those season ticket holders boosters and alumni.
Speaker 2: They expect you to play. They just do.
Speaker 1: Now again, I want to reiterate my point that I
Speaker 1: believe he's hurt. You know, so that's the deal. But
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the way that the money
Speaker 1: infused And by the way, I'm all for it, always
Speaker 1: have been years ago before this was even a reality.
Speaker 2: I was on this stuff.
Speaker 1: But how would you are ticket the way that money
Speaker 1: being added to the equation for college athletes has changed
Speaker 1: the way that people view their obligation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is this has always been the problem, right,
Speaker 3: not that they're getting paid, but it now gives people
Speaker 3: the willingness to say that, you know, a player is
Speaker 3: just doing it to milk it for the money. There's
Speaker 3: now an embedded excuse for people to do certain things.
Speaker 3: And you know, like, look, I get it, Like I'm
Speaker 3: not over here forking over you know, thousands of dollars
Speaker 3: to be able to see an athlete play, So I
Speaker 3: get it. But at the same time, like, you can't
Speaker 3: tell me anybody at Plams level or any of these
Speaker 3: other players at this level, if they're not that engaged
Speaker 3: in the system, they're not even getting those types of contracts. Anyway,
Speaker 3: there's people that love football or love basketball, whatever their
Speaker 3: sport they play, and they're going to try their hardest
Speaker 3: to be there. There's very few, especially at the collegiate level,
Speaker 3: that are just going to take plays off at that
Speaker 3: level right like they're in there, they're trying. They have
Speaker 3: aspirations for other things. So, you know, Kim always had
Speaker 3: a long shot to get to the NFL. Maybe there's
Speaker 3: a chance he comes in as an am drafted free agent.
Speaker 3: All of these things hurt his ability. Now if he
Speaker 3: doesn't think he's ever going to try out for that
Speaker 3: and he wants to collect a paycheck and do whatever
Speaker 3: he wants to, you know, take it up to the Boosters,
Speaker 3: take whatever, and they can have their words with him.
Speaker 3: But this is a guy that wants to be out there.
Speaker 3: I think it was Chris Camarani wrote his story in
Speaker 3: The Athletics talking about how how hard it is for
Speaker 3: him to be able to not be on the field.
Speaker 3: It's hard on his family to see him not be
Speaker 3: on the field. I don't think cam goes through that
Speaker 3: pain and anguish if he's not trying to get back
Speaker 3: on the field. The problem is the money masks a
Speaker 3: lot of that stuff, and so it's easy for people
Speaker 3: to kind of use that as the front to be
Speaker 3: able to say, hey, this guy is just milking the clock.
Speaker 3: You know, he's just trying to get the money, get
Speaker 3: the paycheck, and then move on. And sure, he's probably
Speaker 3: taken a lot of money from people over the last
Speaker 3: two years from injuries. But at the same time, if
Speaker 3: you're willing to pay a guy who's been injury prone,
Speaker 3: that's on you. I mean, like in the most direct way.
Speaker 3: Like if you're willing to pay players at the collegiate level,
Speaker 3: that's what it's gonna be. So there's still a lot
Speaker 3: that needs to happen at the collegiate level of being
Speaker 3: able to pay athletes. You know, maybe there's a similar
Speaker 3: situation where in the NFL you have a collective bargaining
Speaker 3: agreement and your contract is based on how many playing
Speaker 3: times whatever that may be. You can have that conversation later,
Speaker 3: but as it is right now, if you're gonna pay
Speaker 3: a guy, it doesn't matter if he's on the field
Speaker 3: or not. That's just the nature of it, and like
Speaker 3: to use it as an excuse seems pretty petty.
Speaker 1: So after the Baylor game, after Cam got hurt, and
Speaker 1: the conversation leading up to Utah states I didn't know
Speaker 1: who was going to start, you know, I was pretty
Speaker 1: confident that that was gonna be Isaac.
Speaker 2: I was told they were giving him the reps with
Speaker 2: the ones.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm told he's getting the reps with
Speaker 1: the ones this week, just so you know, at least
Speaker 1: to start the week, and we'll kind of see what
Speaker 1: plays out from here. But I said during that week,
Speaker 1: whether or not it's Isaac on Saturday, I think it's
Speaker 1: probably safe to say that if Utah is gonna win
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, Isaac is gonna have to step up
Speaker 1: for them again.
Speaker 2: At some point, I did not.
Speaker 1: Know it was gonna be instilled, But I still believe
Speaker 1: they're going to need Isaac to step up to meet
Speaker 1: more moments, because how can you be confident even if
Speaker 1: Cam comes back against Arizona then he's just gonna stay healthy.
Speaker 2: We all want him to be healthy. I don't want
Speaker 2: him to be injured.
Speaker 1: But if you've seen enough Josh from Isaac that you're
Speaker 1: confident that this team can win the Big Twelve even
Speaker 1: with this eighteen year old true freshman under.
Speaker 3: Center, I mean, I think it's getting there right. I
Speaker 3: still think your best chance is with Cam. You're going
Speaker 3: to do everything you can to get him on the field.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's really questioning that. But I think
Speaker 3: each week, as each week goes on, if Isaac continues
Speaker 3: to make progress and he continues to do things, I
Speaker 3: don't know that this schedule is super difficult that they
Speaker 3: couldn't do it without him. Obviously, getting into that title
Speaker 3: game and then playing in that title game with Isaac
Speaker 3: would be a tough challenge, but I think he's the
Speaker 3: type of kid that you know, he steps up to it,
Speaker 3: he's not phased by it. So I think there's the
Speaker 3: ability is day. Let's say the issue is you have
Speaker 3: to hit so almost perfectly right, like getting to a championship,
Speaker 3: winning a championship, all things kind of have to work
Speaker 3: in your favor. And that's even with like a healthy
Speaker 3: Cam Rising. You're doing that now with a true freshman.
Speaker 3: And it's not to say that that can't happen or
Speaker 3: that he can't lead a team there, and I think
Speaker 3: the team rallies around him in a way that it
Speaker 3: could work. I just think the ability to be able
Speaker 3: to do that, you know, the margin of error is
Speaker 3: just so much lower there that you want to be
Speaker 3: able to see Cam on the field. So, you know,
Speaker 3: I think you heard that on College Game Day as well.
Speaker 3: Kirkirbstreet talked about if Cam Rising plays Utaw easily beat
Speaker 3: maybe he didn't say easily, but they beat Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: If Isaac played, they don't. I think that's kind of
Speaker 3: where you're getting at with this. You know, where Isaac,
Speaker 3: you may be able to get something. I think people
Speaker 3: are starting to believe in it more, especially against in
Speaker 3: Arizona or in Arizona State, but it's going to be
Speaker 3: so much harder when you're playing Teams are going to
Speaker 3: be more different. You know, the Iowa State their defense
Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit tougher. That BYU game,
Speaker 3: that's going to be tougher. Obviously an emotional game with
Speaker 3: it being against his brother's old school. You know, I
Speaker 3: think it's possible. I just don't know that it's going
Speaker 3: to be as sustainable for Isaac if they can't get
Speaker 3: Cam back. It's just too much to put on somebody.
Speaker 3: Can it happen? Sure? I just don't know that it's
Speaker 3: a lot a likely opportunity.
Speaker 1: So Josh, as you know, because I asked you every
Speaker 1: time you were on the show leading up to the season.
Speaker 1: And this is also predicated on things that were discussed
Speaker 1: publicly from the coaching staff.
Speaker 2: Is there wasn't a Bell cow back. There are four
Speaker 2: or five that they like, Well, maybe there is.
Speaker 1: Have we seen enough to know that now Utah clearly
Speaker 1: has an RB one and Makai's is going to be
Speaker 1: somewhat of a Bell cow Moving forward.
Speaker 3: Yes, with the caveat right, I think they still want
Speaker 3: to keep him at a lower carry limit. He's obviously
Speaker 3: getting those number one reps. I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: question there. They're still putting Mike Mitchell Linn in those
Speaker 3: third down scenarios where they need some short yardage just
Speaker 3: use his muscle to get in there. But I think
Speaker 3: that's a perfect situation for the Mkaia can get in there.
Speaker 3: If he can do his work on first and second
Speaker 3: down and maybe a third down occasionally, that really gives
Speaker 3: you tell what they need in this bellcal back. Right,
Speaker 3: he's proven that he can do it. Oregon, the Oklahoma
Speaker 3: State excuse me is probably one of the toughest defenses
Speaker 3: that they're going to face this year. There's others but
Speaker 3: it's going to be on par with that, and if
Speaker 3: he can do it against a team like that, that
Speaker 3: kind of shows his vision and his ability. I mean
Speaker 3: the fact that he's out there stiff arming guys and
Speaker 3: he's breaking tackles and then doing in his little stutter
Speaker 3: step to make guys miss bilk. He's got the talent
Speaker 3: to do it, it's now just replicating it on a
Speaker 3: week to week basis, and so I think him getting
Speaker 3: that confidence, he's supremely confident in himself. I think that
Speaker 3: bodes well. And if they can continue to get that
Speaker 3: out of him, yeah, one hundred percent, he's that guy.
Speaker 3: But it's still never going to be the you know,
Speaker 3: the Zach Moss or the chaquindin Jackson where he was
Speaker 3: going to get thirty thirty five carries a game. It's
Speaker 3: going to be much more tempered to try to make
Speaker 3: sure that he gets you know, good touches, but it's
Speaker 3: not going to be so much that they wear him
Speaker 3: out by the time the end of the Steven comes
Speaker 3: and then you're stuck with nobody out there. So it's
Speaker 3: definitely moving past that running back by committee. But I
Speaker 3: think it's still going to be one where they watch
Speaker 3: and are careful so that they're not over using him
Speaker 3: because they just the depth from Mackay to the next
Speaker 3: guys at this point is pretty drastic. And some of
Speaker 3: that as Mike Mitchell being injured so he hasn't been
Speaker 3: able to see the field as much. But you've got
Speaker 3: to keep him healthy to keep that run game going.
Speaker 2: No, Karen A.
Speaker 1: Reid, But the defense did what the defense usually does
Speaker 1: when the head coach is who it is, the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator is who it is. They did go, you know,
Speaker 1: prevent to soften it up a little bit at the
Speaker 1: end to make sure they ran out the clock to
Speaker 1: get the win, and it got loose a little bit,
Speaker 1: But for three and a half quarters, Josh, the defense
Speaker 1: was really solid.
Speaker 2: What stod out most to you.
Speaker 3: I did, honestly, the secondary was what I was most impressed.
Speaker 3: Utah put a ton of pressure on them in the
Speaker 3: box and obviously stopped Allie Gordon. All that was great,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to take away from that, but
Speaker 3: I think what I was most impressed by was how
Speaker 3: good those dbs were able to lock up these wide
Speaker 3: receivers that everybody comes in and talks about as being
Speaker 3: some of the best in the conference. You really didn't
Speaker 3: get a ton of yardage from them, and ye had
Speaker 3: you know, each of them had about fifty yards and
Speaker 3: most of that came in that that those last two drives.
Speaker 3: But these dvs did a phenomenal job of being able
Speaker 3: to lock them down. You know, Ala that Gilman, he
Speaker 3: had one of the best coverage grades of the week.
Speaker 3: You know, he did really well being able to protect
Speaker 3: them there, being able to see what needed to go.
Speaker 3: You have Smith Snowden that continues to improve, Elijah Davis,
Speaker 3: Phoebe Davis. You know, he's really come on for Kenan
Speaker 3: Johnson and become a viable starting caliber guy. Him mixed
Speaker 3: with Cam Calhoun. This is a position group that you know,
Speaker 3: we were really worried about coming into this, especially when
Speaker 3: Kennon went down, and I've been really impressed with what
Speaker 3: they've been able to do. It's not perfect by any means.
Speaker 3: I think there's you know, some things that they still
Speaker 3: need to correct and teams can can absolutely find ways
Speaker 3: to ski against that. But to do that against these
Speaker 3: wide receivers that Oklahoma State had shows the potential that
Speaker 3: they have and I think that was probably the most
Speaker 3: impressive asset of the defense despite a lot of things
Speaker 3: going on that allowed this defense team to do really well.
Speaker 1: All right, Arizona rolls into town and they're coming off
Speaker 1: of bye and last time we saw Arizona they just
Speaker 1: were bullied around by k State, who got smoked by byu.
Speaker 1: Utah fourteen point favorite at home against Arizona. Based off
Speaker 1: of the data that we have so far, this feels
Speaker 1: like what should be an easy Utah win at home.
Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on this game coming up Saturday
Speaker 1: night late KIK fifteen on ESPN.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think on paper this easily flips in Utah's favor, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Arizona had a great quarterback and
Speaker 3: wide receiver, but outside of that tandem, they don't really
Speaker 3: have enough pieces to compete on the level that they
Speaker 3: were competing last year. And you know, they have to
Speaker 3: face the Utah team that absolutely remembers that game last year.
Speaker 3: Arizona embarrassed them. They came in, they were scoring late.
Speaker 3: You know, even when I think it was like fifty
Speaker 3: seconds left, they were still running plays that you would
Speaker 3: run in the second quarter. I mean, they were trying
Speaker 3: to score as many points as they possibly could on
Speaker 3: Utah and it was a demoralizing a loss for Utah,
Speaker 3: And so you were going to see a Utah team
Speaker 3: that is pretty focused on this game, right. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know, on paper, it's really easy to say that
Speaker 3: Utah is going to roll in this game. But I
Speaker 3: think there's just a lot of I would even call
Speaker 3: it hard feelings, but I think there's just a memory
Speaker 3: of what happened, that this team is going to do
Speaker 3: whatever they can to be able to kind of showcase
Speaker 3: who they are. And the fact that Arizona doesn't have
Speaker 3: the depth of the talent that they had last year,
Speaker 3: this could be a bloodbath. I mean, this could be
Speaker 3: a situation where Utah absolutely steam rolls them and makes
Speaker 3: them pay and do all that from last year. But
Speaker 3: once again, you know you've got a freshman quarterback that's
Speaker 3: likely going to start. That changes the dynamic, right. I
Speaker 3: think if Cam does this, this is easily like a
Speaker 3: twenty one point victory. That's not to say Isaac can't
Speaker 3: do it, and I have, you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: faith in Isaac to be able to do it, but
Speaker 3: it changes, right. So it's easy to sit here and
Speaker 3: say they're going to blow them out because Arizona doesn't
Speaker 3: have X, Y, and Z. But I think this is
Speaker 3: just the game where Utah's is so much more of
Speaker 3: the talented team and Arizona just doesn't have the dogs
Speaker 3: to be able to fight, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Josh, Before I say you loose, you know, BYU
Speaker 1: pick thirteenth in the preseason media poll, Vegas over Under
Speaker 1: was four point five. They're at four wins. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't argue with the fact that it was impressive. Now,
Speaker 1: it was a unbelievable combination of great fortune and opportunistic skill.
Speaker 1: Over the course of like six and a half minutes,
Speaker 1: they scored thirty one unanswered in the most bizarre of ways. However,
Speaker 1: four and oh top twenty five for the first time
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: As far as.
Speaker 1: Utah and Byu being in there together, what are you
Speaker 1: willing to say about how good b is today based
Speaker 1: off of what you've seen so far?
Speaker 3: First off, I mean, I think that defense is real, right,
Speaker 3: I think what j Hill has done is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, they have a lot of talent,
Speaker 3: and you're seeing that they're starting to buy into his system.
Speaker 3: It's much improved from where they were a year ago.
Speaker 3: Where they were getting pushed around a lot offensively. I
Speaker 3: still don't know that we know who they are. I
Speaker 3: think those turnovers masks, you know, some of the problems
Speaker 3: that they have where that momentum and just everything kind
Speaker 3: of collapsing in on Kansas State. That a masks a
Speaker 3: lot of that, and we still don't know fully what
Speaker 3: this this BYU offense can be. But with that said,
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you can get a win, especially a
Speaker 3: dominant win like that against the ranked team, I mean
Speaker 3: you you have to credit the team, right Like so
Speaker 3: it's easy to sit here and nuance it all and
Speaker 3: say that, oh, by you did this, but it really
Speaker 3: was fortunate. Yeah, all of those things did happen, but
Speaker 3: I think you know, by you really showed out. And
Speaker 3: what they can do, My question really comes down to
Speaker 3: is similar to Utah in the early years of the
Speaker 3: Pac twelve, where you can hang early with some of
Speaker 3: these teams and you're going to be really good and
Speaker 3: you're going to flip some of these games that you
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't. What's that going to look like if the
Speaker 3: season develops. Are they going to be able to maintain
Speaker 3: that depth? Are they going to be able to stay healthy.
Speaker 3: You know, as it goes on, it becomes a much
Speaker 3: more difficult challenge. You saw that with Utah a lot,
Speaker 3: where they could get through September and October relatively fine,
Speaker 3: and they could compete, and then that November hit and
Speaker 3: suddenly they wear a shell of themselves. That's where I
Speaker 3: want to see BYU kind of take it to the
Speaker 3: next level.