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We all forgot to drive the land of winter. We
forgot for when they're not like several accidents on Sunday morning,
flipped cars five ninety. I don't venture out as far
as that venture with my aunts. Yeah, but everyone was
a mess. Everywhere was a mess.
Speaker 3: How do you too off the road? A state plow
off the road shut by Ridge Road this morning? What
the hell is that it was? I think he was
trying to do the turnaround and I think he didn't
cut and cut it too far so they were trying
to winch him out.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, how do you get that guy out? Like
you know, that's a huge tow truck to try to
get out of there? Uh so, what have you ever
been contacted like scheduling events and things right, and then
you you want to cancel them for the weather at
any point in your hospitality career, have you or the
place you worked ever been contacted by law enforcement going
could you cancel your event tonight? We're trying to keep
people off the roads? Okay, all right? I always wondered
if that.
Speaker 4: Was like they wanted to do that. They just put
a state of em.
Speaker 2: Well they put a yeah, yeah, right, but I didn't
know if they okay, because uh, you had you did
cancel the event?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately we had, you know, a big band coming
Saturday night, but people weren't coming out, you know, Yeah,
when do you make that call? Like, how do you
make that call? We waited till Saturday morning to make
the call. But the problem was they had no idea
what the weather was going to be like. And they said,
you know, it was going to turn in the rain
and it was going to freeze by eight nine o'clock.
It was eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: Ice is the great equalizer. Yeah right, it's the great
equal I don't give a shit of you a four
wheel drive or whatever. It's a great equalize.
Speaker 3: And it just it just started Saturday too.
Speaker 2: It just it. They said it, We're gonna start at eleven,
eleven o'clock. I the nose, it just started. Yeah, it
was dump and down. Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes and
then you see the people who like to go out
there and test their Tokyo drift skills, you know what
I mean, they get out there little shit because I
think there were cars that rolled over.
Speaker 4: There was there was a couple of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that like flipped over, So you cancel it, right,
And then was the weather. I don't remember what it
was like Saturday night.
Speaker 4: It didn't get too bad until about eleven o'clock. Like
he said, Okay, during the day he had snow, but
it was clearable.
Speaker 2: So how much pushback do you get from people?
Speaker 4: Uh, we didn't really get any push back because a
lot of other places did as well. Bunsy's canceled, yeah yeah, yeah.
Then you see Pineapple Jacks. They kept it on and
they had twenty five people there.
Speaker 2: So you know, what are you sorry? Sorry? I you're painting?
Speaker 4: Pay isn't This man in particular is fifteen hundred dollars,
So that's a big risk. You know, if everybody shows up,
you're fifteen hundre dollars, they don't care, you know, that's
the problem. So yeah, I think I get more of
a pushback from the league guy of the band than anything,
because he really just wanted to go on with the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Does the banking any sort of payoff at all for
being canceled?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well you, I mean it's enough they got like, you know,
sign or something for the show being canceled on day
of the show or something like that.
Speaker 4: No, it's not like they could have got another show anyways.
Speaker 2: Right, shows, right, So what are you gonna What are
you gonna do? But because I'm going to when I
see these cars that flip over on their roof, they're
on five ninety, I see the pictures.
Speaker 3: Those are the ones that are in the left hand
lane three inches four or five inches of snow, just
driving like an asshole.
Speaker 2: Well, I go, you've got to have for the it's
all physics, right, you hit something, you got to have
some momentum going for that to flip you.
Speaker 4: Well, you must have had where they spun and they
probably over corrected.
Speaker 2: Oh you got it. But even in the spin, like,
you gotta hit a pretty good sp although I don't know, man,
because it was a razor so not over the summer,
Jordan flipped it. I think we landed upright. I still
have dust in my bag from that because I had
this bag in there. That code for something my bag.
It's a drug Turbuh No, I still got it. But
like you had to like be moving at a good clip.
So when you're right well, you're going to a spin
upside down?
Speaker 4: How the hell does that happen?
Speaker 2: Did you hear it? Did you see this thing? I
gotta think it was coming from Minnesota. I think there
were eighty eight people on it. No one died. Four
people are in What they're saying critically, I mean, it's
not like no one got dumb injured. Right, Yeah, poor
critical folks, be careful taking her overhead luggage down may
have shifted.
Speaker 4: It's on the floor.
Speaker 3: Jesus, you are the luggage.
Speaker 2: You're playing dodgeball with that ship as it's I I
can't imagine what somebody.
Speaker 4: Has got to be a video somew this.
Speaker 2: This is the audio from video that I found, the
only video I could find, and it's a close up
of the plane upside down. It's clearly a passenger. The
guy sounds breathless and out of control. But check it.
Speaker 5: Out, playing crash outside down everybody, Okay, we're all getting off.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Please stay seated until the plane comes through a complete stop.
That that's the thing is, Like you wonder on approach
how many people take their seatbelts off before it hits
the ground? Sure, right, because you know it's coming. And well,
I don't know. I haven't been on a plane probably
in about nine months or so. But anytime you land, man,
everybody's up grabbing their shit as fast as they fucking can.
And I'm always I'm always in steerage class in the back,
you know, like that's what I have. But aren't you
going away next week?
Speaker 3: Saturday?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday.
Speaker 4: Natalie doesn't fly well as this, so she's right.
Speaker 2: This is well, twenty twenty five is turning out to
be the year to drive from what I see six
plane esence here. Well, we had one eighty eight people
died down in the DC area, right, and then this
plane had did it have eighty eight or sixty eighty passengers?
Its Delta flight four forty eight nineteen from Minneapolis, catastrophic
crash landing. And they're saying that where I thought the
crash landing caused the wing, I thought for sure it
had to be ice. They said that they got about
nine inches of snow in Toronto, and Cruise had to
stay up all nights only in the Monday to keep
them runways clear. So I don't know if then.
Speaker 3: I thought they said win too was a factor.
Speaker 2: But maybe that's that makes way more sense.
Speaker 3: You'll see videos every once in a while, you'll see
videos of planes coming in and Rochester. They're just trying
to correct it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you shipping your pants.
Speaker 4: It's just like they had to be just caught with
the wind.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, spot because then it said that they had been.
Speaker 4: Had it flipped it So you got to the whole wingspan.
You gotta somehow avoid that whole wing. There's no way
they did that on the ground.
Speaker 2: No. Oh, so you think that happened You had.
Speaker 4: To flip before the ground, right, Well.
Speaker 2: No, the wing is bent or dented, but he's right,
but it's not the whole wing. It's not off. It's
not off.
Speaker 4: So it had it happen before you hit the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was eighty passengers, no fatalities. Fifteen individuals sustained injuries,
three two adults and hires again reported in critical condition.
This is Canada, though I don't know how they got
them there too. The crash occurred at two forty five
following a significant winter storm. That uh yeah, and then
you see. I mean, man, they were on top of
this immediately. I don't know how you got everybody out.
Will they say?
Speaker 3: Air traffic controllers too, are one of the top suicide Yes,
the suicide positions.
Speaker 2: They've been that way for years.
Speaker 4: When they're blaming all these crashes, saying there was cuts
made and they had to get rid of a lot
of traffic control guys, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They They've been short for air traffic for years.
Speaker 2: Sam was dating a girl in college that her mom
was an air traffic controller down I think in Long Island,
and she said, it's it's you get paid very, very
very well, but it's just the most stressful thing you
could ever imagine. You've got to deal with all these
different planes and all these how about the private plane
grew up? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Plane crashes?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Hang on a second though, because here's the
thing that I'm thinking, Like this recent crash, we could
go what measures should airlines and airports do for safety,
especially in the winter, and blah blah. You can't necessarily
account for wind and the wind can pick up at
any moment. I mean here today was living on fucking Mars.
You go outside and it looks like the dunes in
a desert because they're all wind blown. And you hit
certain roads and you go by the airport where it's
wide open, and even a snow fence isn't gonna help there.
You need a fucking wall, right, you're talking about it,
But do you.
Speaker 4: Understand what I say?
Speaker 2: Like, you can't control the wind, So I'm not this
is to me an act of God is what I
think you'd have to put it down as. But can
you get back on a on a plane?
Speaker 3: What's here?
Speaker 2: You're going?
Speaker 4: I can't bother me at all to fly? Like I
think it's the if this half his way of doing it.
I'm like say, like gonna be like, what the hell
is going on? Like okay, okay, there's so much going
on right now, something's not right.
Speaker 3: Well, we had that guy on from Sully's plane. Yeah,
he said, the one guy was on the freaking ferry
on hold with us, are trying to get on a flight, get.
Speaker 2: In a new flights? Can I get to And he's
like he wanted to get the hell home. Yeah, But
I'm and I'm with that guy because I go one
of the chances too, I would be very nervous, but
I'm like, I gotta get over this because it's you know,
my job requires it, or my life just to get
anywhere cool.
Speaker 3: How are two plans going to go to the river
in one day?
Speaker 2: That's what I say. And this is like, I mean,
how many flights took off and landed in North America
we'll just say Mexico, United States, and Canada over the
that day. How many? How many landed successfully at that airport.
Speaker 4: I met a pilot when we were in Austin and
he was telling us and I forgot how many hundreds
of thousands of flights per day, And he's like, you
never hear of many going down. So it's the safest
travel you can be in. It is because I do
it every day in my life, and I don't think
twice about it, right, you know, because Natalie is like,
I can't stand flying. I'm not in control, right, And
he's like, it's not safe for them driving in a
car with these idiots driving around.
Speaker 2: You, So, oh well, that's that's true. I mean, what Jesus,
you know, I was thinking about drink, which Natalie won't
let you do in the car.
Speaker 4: Right, she's already said like she's she's taking some pills
and she's gonna get drink in the airport. Good, we're
leaving it like noon and she's gonna start drinking like
nine am in the airport. She's like, I'm doing whatever
I have to do.
Speaker 3: Tell her that new rules. Now I'll get a drink
in the car.
Speaker 4: YEA take his annex And you're I think that's what she's.
Speaker 2: Something, but that I think is a healthy use of
that medicine. Like right, you're gonna go. It kind of
knocks you out, you're relaxed. I it would be scary
as ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah what what?
Speaker 2: What? You ever sit next to somebody and they're like
spilling into your seat and then all of a sudden
you're upside Now who landed on?
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 2: Who's I would love to see video inside the plane
because somebody has to have that from inside the plane,
even when they had already come to a stop and landed.
It's got it right.
Speaker 3: I's currently looking to buy that right now.
Speaker 4: Oh look what Trump did?
Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with him him? How how
de I? Well?
Speaker 4: Anything more about this plane that crashed in Philadelphia. It
just went away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why does it not? Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know.
Speaker 4: That's a weird more information.
Speaker 2: That's a weird one. Black box nothing. There's gotta be
something that was a strange one. Yeah, yeah, I forgot
about the Philadelphia and the DC one. Yeah. Well the
DC one just seemed to be like terrible timing. And
I don't know if the military do they have their
own air traffic control that there. I would assume not,
but I would assume yeah, I would think so too.
I don't know. I can remember like being in I mean,
you ever been in a bad car accident due to roads? Yeah?
I remember, years years ago, thirty, I had a girlfriend.
She was the girl that my mother found the letter
from her. She wrote me like a Harlequin novel about
how she wanted my throbbing not to be the confused
with the letters we've gotten here for but on yellow
paper too, and written like she just wrote this filthy
dirty and it was kind of funny. I must have
left it in my room and my mother found it.
Oh man, And my father told me my mother found it.
My mother never ever said anything to me about it.
My father told me the letter and I was like
oh shit. I mean it was like, I would love
filthy as you could get filthy. We were nineteen and
she was she was, Yeah, she was a dirty girl.
Speaker 3: I would love to hear how your father graded that essay,
as I don't know if he got to see it.
Speaker 2: Well, he must have, right, they must have.
Speaker 3: They probably question got asked, what kind of grading would
you've given that?
Speaker 2: I want? How was it? How was the my father
read it? Got turned on. Tried to help my mother.
She don't get the.
Speaker 4: Funk off the stories like your mom, right.
Speaker 2: But I remember coming back from her house because she
lived down in Austining, New York, which is in Westchester County,
and I was more north. So weather's getting shitty. I
decide to leave. I'm going up the Taconic State Parkway.
I hit ice. There's already cars off that had spun off,
and I'm like, oh shit, and I go, I'm gonna
hit one of these cars, and I hit it and
then all these cars are off to the side. I
get out and then you're running into the woods, the
raiders or the woods there so no so I there's
a cop involved in this. And for years while I
was at Fisher, I would get calls from the police
doing an investigation to see if that guy was drunk
or was he helpful? Because I think somebody said he
was drinking and that's why he went off the road.
I go, the ice is a great equal at nineteen,
I go, that's a great equalizer. I don't know if
he was drinking at all. He did seem to keep
everybody safe and off the road, and then I my
car could still drive. I got in the car and
drove home.
Speaker 3: Cop tossed them months and have a good night time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But other than that, I mean, right, it's usually
you don't hear about this on a on a plane.
I mean they land in Alaska and everywhere.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's a freak thing. It is a lot of
things though. In the last two months. You know how
many plane crashes? Is that three or four across the
world too?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, oh no, it's actually, let's see, there was
the one.
Speaker 3: Four or five? Yeah, yeah, because there was nothing domestic
here since Tyler was born. Buffalo was the last domestic one.
Speaker 2: Do we consider Canada? Well left Minneapolis, so I guess.
Speaker 3: You have to say, okay, I'm saying crashing I know, right,
Toronto soon will be fifty first. So soon do.
Speaker 2: We want it so cold? Keep it? Can we have
it just for a few months?
Speaker 3: Can we just keep all the cool stuff they have,
like the ketchup chips and the codeine.
Speaker 2: Do you see stuff like this and try to keep
it away from your girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Oh, there's no keeping it. Somehow it goes right to
her phone. I swear to God it must because she
watches reels on that she gets she's something that went
today before anybody else knew about it in Toronto. Really,
she's like, that's it. I'm driving to Florida to get
on a cruise ship. I'm like, well, i'll see you there.
I'm flying. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: We're talking about flying weldy summer and Brady's paranoid about
flying because.
Speaker 2: He's because you see this stuff just in general. He's
just paranoid about it.
Speaker 3: And the one DC one went down, I said the CARRYO,
don't even mention, don't don't even say a word about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'll never see the news. Right. I really
don't think there's anything up with flying. I think it's
just just coincidence bad, you know, whatever happened the tragedy
with the Blackhawk helicopter in the airline. I don't know
how you, I don't know what that was.
Speaker 4: Are they not doing proper radiance on these planes?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, so Jamison is in Alabama. He was supposed to
leave Friday at three point fifteen. Flight wasn't coming in
because of repairs. Right, it was delayed And they didn't
say weather, they said repairs. It was in for repairs.
And then they had it coming in at like five,
which would still give him plenty of time to hit
his next connection, and then all of a sudden, it
was like six thirty five, the flight was gonna take
off and it wouldn't get to his connection in time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but repairs and repairs in a plane can be
anything from the fucking wing fell off to the toilet
won't fly well. My father, the door won't close.
Speaker 2: My dad hated flying. My my his brother was a
pilot for Delta air Lines. We were flying out to
ski in Park City when I was in sixth grade,
and I can remember looking out the window and they
just went out with duc savee and wrapped like whatever
it was. It was just you could see the guy
up on the ladder and he's doing the and my
father's going Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ like but trying to
stay calm, and he's leaning over my mother.
Speaker 3: I can't do a lot of It's I think heat tape,
you know just what it was.
Speaker 2: I looks like it look like duct tape in my mind,
but I would think.
Speaker 4: Now, it's a Frontier Airlines plane, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my my college roommate like basically retired and then
took a job as a flight attendant for Frontier out
of Tampa, and he goes anywhere you went, and he doesn't.
I there was even the front You know what's funny,
Frontier had something where they slid off the runway back
around November because I called him to see if he's
like XAM in Colorado on fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but sliding off the runway is a lot different
than falling out of the sky. Yeah, sliding out the
runway happens all the time.
Speaker 2: I think the wind thing, I didn't just think of that.
Speaker 3: It's just ice and snow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just happens. Well, ship, you landed, you got there,
you're safe, you were on time.
Speaker 3: It's just like sliding off the road in a car.
Speaker 4: So you can't get to the gate, you know, a
little late.
Speaker 2: How long do you take to get your luggage out
of there? It's got to take a while, yeah, because
now it's up here where it would be down there,
and you got I don't know what they do, like what.
I'd love to see the whole process.
Speaker 4: How many people will not fly again because of that?
Speaker 2: I guarantee. I'm wondering. And then I even wonder for pilots.
Is there some kind of psychological thing you got to
go through to get back in there? I would think
so I would too. No, I don't know. It's pretty weird,
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Speaker 4: Rock crunch wrap? The rock crunch wrap whicht's right there.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the meat hot yea, what do you think
it was? So I go, I'm only gonna eat half. Yeah, okay,
I ate half the other half and I know and
I've already bit into It's so God, it is so good.
Everything over there great. The portion sizes are huge. The
trivia is back on Sunday.
Speaker 4: The brunch right, even even with the weather yesterday was
pretty bad. Yeah music, Yeah, you were there for a
little bit. Yeah, trivia was busy yesterday, so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's uh, it's it. And then is
there more music coming up?
Speaker 4: You got bands Friday and Saturday night?
Speaker 2: Both? Are you doing that more on Friday and Saturday nights?
Speaker 4: Now we do anyway?
Speaker 2: February?
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it used to be a slow time of
year so we could do it. Hasn't really worked out
that way this year, which is a good thing, but right,
you know, because we lose the dining room, so we
end up using the party room as a dining room.
Speaker 2: Who's playing Friday? I didn't mean to put you on
the spot. Radio radio Star?
Speaker 4: Okay, they're a newer band, but it was Tina from
Me and the Boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh she's got a new band. Yeah, so man, I.
Speaker 4: Gotta tell you that that radio star I think it's called.
Speaker 2: Does she age? And I, without sounding creepy, I don't
know that I've ever met somebody, honestly, who looks like
they've done nothing to themselves. I couldn't tell her anything.
Speaker 4: She looks the same. I've known her now twelve years
and she has not changed away.
Speaker 2: I don't think she no never and always happy and
upbeat and I know she's doing things with Elvio at
the uh Rock Academy and uh man, that energy that
she brings. Those kids are lucky.
Speaker 4: I don't know how Chris does it. I don't know
he puts up with her. I tell her, I don't
know how you do it, Chris.
Speaker 2: So that's Friday night, what time eight o'clock, eight o'clock,
and then another one on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: Another band at Saturday night eight o'clock as well?
Speaker 2: Nice, and then the weekend. Yeah, that's great bt B,
wood Fire, Peach and Grill. When do you leave Saturday morning? Oh? Yeah,
I can't wait. Where are you going? I know the
weather is I don't remember winter like this in a
couple of years.
Speaker 4: It's been cold last yes, not snow like this. Ahead,
what's the where are you going? We're flying to Miami
and then we go to Jamaica. Coccae came to Bascom suck.
It's gonna be terrible, really terrible. Five six days Jamaica.
Speaker 2: That's the worst. That's awful. That's good. I hope you
have a great time and you'll be missed next week.
Speaker 3: Bill's going to miss the You and the Sandwich.
Speaker 2: Uh well, take a moment. I know you watched the
The man Hunt, oh J Simpson, The American man Hunt. Yeah,
there's a couple of things in there, and I couldn't
find the audio enough and I meant to go through Netflix,
but I have some pieces of it, and I think
it's worth talking about because I would say I didn't
think I needed another OJ docu series, and this one
was fantastics. I've seen the best one I've seen as well. Yeah,
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I always wish I had more guts to even attempt
to try out. When I was younger, for Saturday and Life.
It was always my favorite show. Like I loved I
loved watching that. I loved seeing there was some funny
shit that came out of there that really, when you
think about it, everybody talks about the best cast being
the first cast or whatever they had on there. Okay,
but the Chris Farley ears were fantastic. Spade was on there.
I thought they were really good.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be in like one of those
like troops like the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a Second City or something like that, and
then through an improv comedy that would be fun. It
would be a lot of fun. It would be a
ton of fun because you got to be on your
toes and it's yes and and can you make it funny?
And I thought the music stuff was fantastic. And then
we're just talking in here. I think post Malone played
with Nirvana. I saw a post on social media about that,
and then I think, if you have was it peacock? Yeah,
if you have peacock, anything you can go back and watch.
I think so Friday Night concert, but that looked like
it was just a blast. But even the OJ Simpson
case got uh Norm McDonald fired because he kept going
making all these jokes, and I think the head of
NBC came down and they go, if you don't stop,
because he was a friend of OJ's, if you don't stop,
I'm gonna I think something's gonna happen. And he wound
up getting fired. But I did not think and I
don't know how anybody else did you see this?
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 2: You should take some time. I know like it. It
feels like it's tired. We've been over it a million times,
all this shit with OJ. He's dead. Now let's move on.
But it's hard to watch this one because Danny said
he watched the first episode. Was there four or six? Yeah? Four?
And uh, Danny goes, I'm not sure if I'm going
to continue to watch because it's it's gives you a
lot of a detail and stuff. But I didn't think
I needed another one, and I went this one. OJ's
American man Hunt OJ Simpson the Netflix docum series which
I think they partnered with the guy who did the
thirty for thirty from ESPN. That makes sense because I
I have audio, but I think it's from the ESPN
one and what you'll hear and you'll remember it better,
uh probably than I did from because I think I
haven't watched it. There's been a lot of shit in
my head after that. But the that the agent is
the one who that what the agent says in this
docuseriies and I hadn't heard it and I didn't see
the I guess the one that was done for ESPN
Rotten Tomatoes gives this thing one hundred percent, like you
never get one hundred percent, and it's I mean, look,
we all know the verdict, we all knew this stuff
that went on. We write this stuff, but it doesn't
introduce any groundbreaking new evidence at all. But goddamn, you
can't walk away from this.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because they got Chris Darden on there and
he's talking about the mistakes in Yes, and every investigator
is on there, including the one, you know, the racist one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. It's it's so good. I mean,
thirty years after the Trial of the Century and here's
a little piece because this guy was one of the
original investigators who went there and listened to what he
says would Simpson has his blood also on the right
handed clubs found out rocking Am, along with the blood
of both the victims. Yeah, so they have the left
handed glove they find at his place, the right handed
glove they find, or vice versa, and it has both
their blood on it. They had so much compell This
was a slam dunk case and I think that it
was the timing or whatever. And god damn you. I mean,
this cost people job and at the same time made
people into heroes. Right. He had the best defense I
had ever ever seen in my life when you go
back through it, because I mean, it was like the
final fake out from OJ. I thought for sure when
he died he would say something, there would be like
a dramatic deathbed con confession. There was nothing. This dude
just went to the grave holding this one. Sure, I
don't know all of it. They give you all the
legal maneuverings and it just the botched evidence, as you said,
the police misconduct and how they did it. But this
is the one. This is the part where I got
chills watching this. His agent is Mike Gilbert, and Mike
Gilbert I thought. In the docuseries says I asked OJ,
did you do it? And in the ESPN one he
says something slightly different, And that's the only audio I
could find here.
Speaker 8: It is, I went to Rockingham and we're drinking rolling
rock beer outside and he was.
Speaker 2: Smoking road.
Speaker 8: He was looking around the backyard.
Speaker 3: Reliving all the different events that had happened there.
Speaker 8: And I just asked him what happened June twelfth, And
he asked me what I thought happened.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that in the document now, I said,
I I have always thought you probably didn't.
Speaker 8: I said, I know what you told AC. You know
that you went there, but you just went to see
what was going on, but you didn't take a knife.
Speaker 2: He shook his head and he said yeah.
Speaker 8: And he said that if she went open the door
of the knife should still be alive.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 2: And in this one they go further. They talk about
the ESPN one Marcus Allen and how he was fifteen
years younger than OJ. OJ saw him as himself in competition.
She I guess was starting to date Marcus Allen and
he was enraged and he says in the ESPN one, Gilbert,
because I think then the docum series, he goes, I
dropped him as his agent after that I couldn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was friends with both of him and
the call right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he said, but in this ESPN one he said,
you know, I always believed that. I believe that. I
believe he went there and she answered the door with
the knife, and he goes, And then I went, no,
he went there to kill her. He had the intention
so like it was his life. I have no idea
I can tell you, Like, they don't give you anything
new in this, but God is so well done. And
you saw key players careers crumbled. You had that Barry
Sheck who puts all this, I doubt into everybody's fucking head,
and you go, Mark Furman, Mark Furman, I didn't know this,
did you. There were some things that I learned in
this one that he sued the city of la saying,
you made me racist, basically, and I'm suing you for this.
And then it was all the racist language. And then
he decided to help somebody who was writing a screenplay,
and so they had tape recordings of him and all
the racist language and they basically could say, yeah, he
was looking to frame somebody. Yeah, it's crazy, he's fucking insane.
Speaker 4: He definitely had the dream team. Yeah, and they knew
the bumbling DA's. They knew exactly how they could get
into their skin and twist things to upset them and
get them off their game. Right, it's perfect game. It's
like it's like being a head coach of a football team.
You get in somebody's head, it's over.
Speaker 2: Well that's what it was. But then the thing is like,
after this, OJ goes and he was like in Florida,
he was doing cocaine and just drugs and partying, and
I think there was domestic I think police were called
to his house in Florida. I've never looked us up.
I'm just thinking of it now. I'm pretty sure over
a domestic situation with a woman. And he may have
been the one that called because I think he was going, fuck, man,
I'm not gonna kid.
Speaker 4: I got away with it.
Speaker 2: I got away, he got away with it.
Speaker 4: I feel like he partied it up knowing he got
a second life.
Speaker 2: This guy said, Uh, the agent in this piece, Mike
Gilbert in the ESPN piece, does say the one thing
that bothered me the most was the fact that he
left his two kids sleeping upstairs in Nicole's house, that
they could have come down and found their mother, and
they yeah like that, And then you go, that's fucked up.
Speaker 4: What else was he gonna do?
Speaker 2: Uh, absolutely not killer, absolutely nothing, or go back and say, hey,
I've been trying to call my ex. I don't know,
Maybe that's too much.
Speaker 4: I have no idea the amount of evidence that didn't
get turned in.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, how about the person who saw him throw
the bag away at the airport? Never interviewed?
Speaker 4: That guy, wasn't there bloody socks, The bloody socks.
Speaker 2: Were never never introduced turned on. I don't know. I
don't know. All they did was all this doubt and
they were able to keep everything out.
Speaker 4: And so he needs a little bit of doubt.
Speaker 2: Fuck it. Well, look, no one has ever said he
was innocent. They just said they he was not guilty, right,
which I guess there is a difference. But he got
to go on trying to live his life was shit
after that. Yeah, No, he couldn't get a job. No
one wanted touch him because I don't think anybody believed
that he didn't do it.
Speaker 4: He didn't need a job though, you know, he just
got that money. They would have taken it, so.
Speaker 2: Right, well that was the thing. Yeah, he lost the
civil trial, right, but you go, and what was the
other guy, like the other kid that ted of what's
his name right at the friend? Yeah, uh yeah, Ron Goldman.
What are the chances? Because I thought she was having
an affair with him, I figured for sure, And this
makes it really sound like that's not the case at all.
She was just a regular there and you know, attractive,
typical l a. But god damn they saw I saw
some photo of her sisters on the Today Show after
this docuseries, and one of them looks like the plastic surgery.
I mean it's like it's like Michael Jackson. The nose
is gone. She looked sick. Terrible, Yeah, really bad, really
really bad. But it's a great docuseries of you. I
want to watch it. I didn't think for sure i'd
need another one, but there it is. There probably be
more American Man Hunt O. J. Simpson. I don't know
that you need another one.
Speaker 3: If they keep if they keep putting up numbers there,
it's like a sequel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this one was pretty deep into the things
you've never heard before.
Speaker 2: Right, well, the things that I wasn't what's that?
Speaker 4: This was all those key players? Yeah, what ys that
are still alive talking in it? Yep, DA's there are
still alive talking at the cops that are still alive talking.
You got everything from everybody on this one. Yeah, it
can't be be.
Speaker 2: How bad it was done, how badly they botched this. Yeah,
and Furman even, I mean, what happened? What did he do? Now?
Speaker 4: Like I was curious about that, And I don't know
if I caught what he does now. He's retired, isn't
he I would assume he must have because this was
thirty years ago and he wasn't young men, he's got
to be in his seventies.
Speaker 2: Furman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say he was like thirty five forty.
Then he's got to go.
Speaker 2: Okay, and it's thirty years ago. Thirty five forty would
put you in Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's a forensic and crime expert for Fox News. He
also writes books about cases and has appeared in other
media outlets.
Speaker 2: Does it tell you how old he is? Uh?
Speaker 3: It does not, but I can find out. Yeah, I'm
just curious because that that dude looked good. It was
really five nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, so do the math. Yeah, so yes, seventy three,
wouldn't that be fifty two? Yeah? Wow? Okay.
Speaker 4: And you know they bumbled it with the investigation too, liked,
didn't the FBI step in or something and take over
or a different department took over and they were pissed
off about it. Yeah, And the original guy said, if
we would have just been left on this case, without
a doubt, we would.
Speaker 2: Have been able to do it right, put it away,
And it was all I don't know, it's amazing. And
the timing of it was perfect for him to do
this because in a way, and we've heard durors say
it over the years, Yeah, we were just tired of
seeing black men be railroaded. Right, this wasn't that case.
So no, this is not that case. But he was
loved and all the people outside and they're jumping up
in that it's like all these frat boys and stuff.
Oh jay, here he comes, like it was. It was
fucking crazy. You go, oh my god. At the time,
it was you know, I remember people along the highway
with the signs. I remember that on TV and it
was the slow chase and I didn't realize he was
threatening to commit suicide.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and then said if he had a gun though,
I mean they said he said he had one. I
don't know if he really did.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he did either, but that was
interesting because they had all the snipers. Yeah, and they go,
if he gets out with a gun, kill him on
the don't even hesitate. If he gets out with a
gun in his hand, you are to shoot him immediately.
And they pull in and his son ran out. And
that was the other kid that they kept saying, like
was involved in this or something. Wasn't there a while?
Speaker 4: Like I thought for the longest time that he did it. Yeah,
OJ was covering for him, knowing he get a better
chance of getting off, but not after seeing this, like
any doubt I had that he did or didn't do
it is gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that was what I was wondering. And then
they say he's running out and he's yelling at them,
like he was yelling at OJ. And then OJ got
out of.
Speaker 4: The I think it was because he was thinking about
killing himself.
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe it could be.
Speaker 4: And that also kept the snipers from shooting because they're like,
don't shoot, you know, you'll take out the kid.
Speaker 3: Toune right, you'll take out the kid.
Speaker 2: And that was the other thing that somebody else has
moved into because they they were.
Speaker 4: All that was actually probably a smart move by that kid.
He may have done it on purpose.
Speaker 2: I wonder, because here's the bad part is, you know,
we talk about manipulation in the in the news, and
you can have we can see I think everybody now
plays like CNN versus Fox to get what's the real story.
Here's what they're saying, here's maybe somewhere in the mill.
But I go, is that the ultimate example the O. J.
Simpson trial of how media and a narrative control can
change everything, because they were able to control the narrative
on this and make you know, Furman racist? Could he
deny being a racist? Absolutely not. They had him on tape,
they couldn't. So you can then infer that he's out
to you know, you can see why he would want
to plant the evidence and all that shit, and I go, man,
it overrid all the facts, overriding everything. I don't know,
given the circumstances, I do wonder if an acquittal would
have been inevitable just because of the timing of all
the race stuff that was going on in La. My god, damn,
this is so well done. And Barry Sheck, who was
a New York guy, it just went I mean, at
them on the denn It took this forensics guy who's
just this quiet, nerdy science dude, right he was. He
couldn't answer these having questions. It's like, holy fuck, you
gotta you gotta gotta see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me find that time real quick.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, what do you mean when you're
sitting around in a hotel and a hockey thing, don't
drink go watch the OJ thing.
Speaker 3: That sounds horrible. Yeah, that's what those are.
Speaker 4: They're long episodes too, They're like forty five to fifty
minutes long.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone I think over an hour.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. And yeah the last one I
think was like an hour and fifteen hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It did feel like it was going.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was waiting to go okay, well, and it was
one of these ones where I didn't want to turn
it off. But even though I knew the outcome, I
knew the outcome, but how they came to it was amazing.
Like that was really really, really well done. Are you
gonna when you go on vacation, will you be swimming
uh with sharks or anything?
Speaker 4: They're swimming with dolphins, swimming no sharks, okay, with sharks?
Speaker 3: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: I just thought there was one where they could they
put you in a cage and they could drop you
into like shark infest.
Speaker 4: I think there's some that are safely they remove all
their teeth or whatever. Oh, there's a way of doing it.
Speaker 2: But there is a woman who is in Turks and
Caicos and she's just a couple of yards off the
off the shore of the beach, and she's got her
probably her phone underwater camera. She sees a bull shark,
so she goes down to get a picture, and the
bull shark wasn't taken selfies that day and just bit
both her hands. She had to have fifty five year
old Canadian woman had to have both hands amputated, one
mid arm and one at the other because of the
fucking shark.
Speaker 4: There's no way I'm trying to take a picture of
a damn shark.
Speaker 2: And I can't tell. I saw some video in or
day of a guy in one of those paddle boards. Yeah,
and it was down in Florida and it's the Coastguard
flying a helicopter and they're like, sir, we needed to
very quickly and easily get out of the water. Get
your bored up. There's four great whites swimming right around you.
I hat of shit my pants, yeah, and falling off
the fucking thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, God, damn dude, no thanks.
Speaker 2: Well, like I never thought of I never worried about
sharks and things, so I was like, Eh, that's very rare,
it happens. But I think there's a place in Florida.
I don't know what university down there keeps track of
shark attacks, and I think there were eighty eight worldwide
last year, but they're saying twenty four of them were
provoked by humans. Because you're going around fucking with the shark, right,
you're in their spot exactly, you know, sey cheese.
Speaker 3: But it's crazy that they got the stuff that they
can track them too. They'll see them, yeah, the summers
will see them up near Nova Scotia, and then like
in December, they're down in Florida.
Speaker 2: Two American tours in the Bahamas also had a running
with a shark I don't know what happened there, experts
say yet eighty eight shark attacks last year, twenty four
of them were provoked, because it's kind of if you
provoke an animal and get bitten, you kind of had
it coming. I agreed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Did you see the bananas in Boston?
Speaker 2: No, there was a box of bananas that came in
and there's like some lethal snake. Was it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Shit, like just in the star Fuck it a
bet at your restaurant had burnt the sun of a
bitch down to trust me. Sorry, Matt, your restaurant's gone.
Speaker 4: I've been okay with that.
Speaker 2: God damn. Oh Jesus, I don't know that this lady.
Then I'm going the rest of your life. What do
you do? You can't even wipe your ass, pick your nose,
answer your phone. You can't do anything.
Speaker 3: Double timmy arm?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's it. I guess you can get the
fake hands or whatever. What that's not this? Yeah? I
guess she was snorkeling. Decided to get up close with
this six foot shark. Nope, no way for the gram, baby,
doing it for the Gram.
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goldfish in it.
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Speaker 4: You got two sons and a daughter.
Speaker 3: Kevin's got three tree.
Speaker 2: That you know of? Is it? I don't know. Do
we even raise boys wrong? Now? Like I don't mean
us as maybe necessary parents, but as society. I see
little boys getting in trouble all the time for a
ship that I just don't think is their fault. And
I know that's w just that they can't sit still
and they got a lot of energy and so they're
disruptive somewhat or they're moving around and so they keep
getting told you got to quiet down, you got quiet down,
And they're somewhat distracting. So they're seeing deemed disrespect phone.
They get in school, they're in trouble and they're off
and I go, wait a second, why are we doing that? Why?
Why why aren't you Yeah, but why aren't you just
like take that kid sort of sit on the kid
a little bit, Go hey man, we got to get
this done, and you can't. It's not fair to the others.
It's like have a common funation.
Speaker 3: It's easier to take one versus twenty.
Speaker 2: Because I'm watching I go, God, damn, you know you
talk about you like I saw that thing? Are there
any high value men around? And somebody writs, so, are
women's standards too high? I have no idea. Everybody's You
can't do anything, you can't say anything, you can't make
a mistake. If you make a mistake, you're deemed a
fucking awful human being because you said, you know what
I mean, you make an off color remark or you
do whatever, and I go, I don't get it. And
then and then I'm watching I'm laughing because as I'm talking,
I didn't even laugh.
Speaker 3: Because that's half the conversations in the studio when the
MIC's off.
Speaker 2: Okay, But I'm here's why I'm laughing. I'm laughing because
the other day I was just thinking, and as I was,
I was eating this delicious food from bTB. I go,
this is so good, I could eat another one. I go,
Could you imagine if I were at the gym, Because
I've been trying to get to the gym a little
bit more, and my biggest fear there is that I'm
going to fart like with no control, like you know
what I'm saying, Like it's gonna be one of those loud,
echoey ones. You're not going to be able to make
it look like it's the guy next year. You can't
play this off. It is absolutely you. And I go,
as I'm laughing, I go, Jamison ripped the fart the
other day and I go, oh my god. He goes, yeah,
you should have heard one I did at her house.
I go, what He's like, Oh yeah, she thought it
was really funny. I go, I don't get it, so
so for him, I go, Okay, there's a guy just
is gonna be himself no matter who.
Speaker 3: Farts are always funny every time I come across the
real something funny with a farty. We were watching sometime.
I don't know how I got in mind, but it
was like this woman doing horse jumping and just had
the horse jumped it farted. I was exerting the energy,
so it's putting. Brady's sitting there and he just laughing
a little ten year old ass because it's far as
are funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, farts are funny. I get that. But what I'm
talking about, I guess, is more than the word toxic
in relationships and things like, almost to the point where
you can't sort of be a normal human being for
fear of because you don't know. And I almost wonder
if it's worse. You got to learn to conform to society.
I get it.
Speaker 3: Well, there's always that when you start dating a girl,
you can't fart in front of her for at least
what four or five months? I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: I had to check once that I broke up with
because she she was a little bit drunk and she
got up. No, she got up on the back of
a couch and over my head, hung her ass and farted.
Speaker 3: That sounds a keeper for you.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 3: She played fart bobs away your head.
Speaker 2: I think I stayed for a while, but then you know, honey,
that was hot. Do it again? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it the note?
Speaker 2: That was the chick that wrote the note?
Speaker 3: One time? She was when I hung my fucking ass
over your head?
Speaker 2: She was she would that. That was the one that
was when my mother. That was my mother who called
me the promiscuous one. And I always wondered why, Oh,
it's because of the letter. She called me the promiscuous one.
Speaker 3: Imagine have you seen this girl all on Facebook?
Speaker 2: Somebody did send me her thing. Yeah, she looked exactly
the same.
Speaker 3: We should call her.
Speaker 2: No, it's okay, I'd rather not, it'd be great. No,
I don't know. I don't remember how that ended up.
Who cares.
Speaker 4: She sh her pants and you got rid of her.
Speaker 2: That's why. No, because she came to Fisher with me,
you got to a like formal at Fisher. Uh. That
was another awkward hole freaking door. That was another awkward situation.
There was a like I came to Fisher and I
I went out exploring the campus with some other guys
and had been drinking in the dorm and I see
this girl and she's over crying and her friends are
consoling her or whatever. And we go down and there
used to be this fountain that you could do, so
I was doing like Pete Townsend slides to pretend I'm
playing guitar and falling into the water. And for whatever reason,
she kind of liked me. I think I made out
with her. And then I find out that she has
a boyfriend and her boyfriend's grandfather owns a ton of
property in Canandaigua. And we're at Padam's and I didn't
know this. I had no idea, and he comes up
and starts saying stuff to me and then pulls a
ceiling tile out and breaks it over his head, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the extremely hard to break, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, but he breaks it over his head. There's dust
and shit everywhere, and I burst out fucking laughing. I
burst out laughing, and his good boyfriend and his friend
still like his boyfriend. His buddies were like, great, you
gotta get out of it. So I just went to
the other end of the I don't know it, but
he was a big He was a big guy. Uh.
And then I go to the formal. I bring the
girl that wrote the letter who hung her head ass
over my head and farted, and I'm sitting there, I'm
in a white shirt, and that chick comes along and somehow,
in a room with no ripples in the carpet, no
tile missing, no anything, trips falls a cranberry and vodka
goes all down right over my shoulder perfectly and down
the front. Oh man, yeah, all over it. And I
just remember my day going dry yourself off she's hand. Yeah,
it was like the perfect You couldn't have timed this
beast chances that, oh she fucking did it on purpose?
Speaker 3: That share do you think this girl would cop to
the note or to the fart.
Speaker 2: Uh, I have no later, I don't know. She was
the one of the There were a couple of reasons
that I got shipped off to my uncle's in Park City,
which was like a real punishment because I lived in
the house, but for two weeks. I fucking that's the
greatest time ever. But there were two reasons. One I
had the really glossy, high end porn, filthy, dirty, fucking,
most disgusting thing I could have found in the world
at the time, in the early nineties, and my father
said to me, if I ever find porn in here again,
you've got a younger brother or sister. You can't live
under my roof. And then they found it again, and
so that was strike one, and it was to get
me away from her.
Speaker 3: Was it new porn or was it existing porn of
you had had that they just found it again. No,
it was new.
Speaker 2: I almost had like an addiction. I could go. I
would get off work at six o'clock in the morning
and I would go sometimes right to the porn thing,
the dirty bookstore. I was right down the road and
nobody was in there. They were open twenty four hours
and no one was in there at like six, between
six and seven. So I didn't feel like I was
being judged by anybody other than the person behind the counter.
I don't know what the fuck they care. And I
would go in there and.
Speaker 4: I would like, we're talking to Mark right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, I swear, I swear. There's a lot of similarities,
like and uh yeah. So that's that was part of
the reason. And it was that girl that my parents
were trying to get me away from, and then she
came up when I came back, and I remember my
mother doing the passive aggressive mother move to try to
like because they really were not big fans of this girl,
my mother, especially after that letter.
Speaker 3: We definitely got her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely got to get this girl on the show.
And then you got to call Marge afterwards day. So
I just talked to on the podcast. So she so
in front of or I remember this distinctly. I can
see it. We're out on the deck. It's summer, it was.
She came up for my birthday and I had just
come back because I had to go to Fisher. I
was going back to Fisher for my last year, and
she came up and she was there for my birthday.
And my mother goes, he loved it so much out there,
he's thinking of moving to the Rockies or whatever. Right,
And I remember walking down the hall and she wanted
me to come with her, that we were going to
go to the Jersey Shore for a couple of days.
And I'm like, I knew my parents did not want
me going at all. And I remember I went, I
was going to the bathroom, and somehow she appears in
the hallway and she goes, I know you got them.
I go, what you're talking about? She reaches down and
grass my balls and goes, I know you have some balls.
Tell your mother you're going with us? Yeah, and guess
what I did. Can we just call Margin, just haveing
you say the name and just see what Marge says.
I think it'd be fantastic.
Speaker 3: Call Marge right now and just say that name and
just see what Marge does. Really, I think it'd be fun.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Plus, let me say, my phone's
not connected. But they did not like her at all,
like at all at all. But I mean, I understand why.
I don't think i'd want to know. Would you want
to know?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, see, I wouldn't want to know I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: But tell her not to be snooping her own.
Speaker 2: Well, they weren't in my room because I had no
They didn't smell anything fishy. I think around that time
I had a lot of parties when they weren't home,
so many parties that kids came over once when they
knew my parents were gone for a while. But I
decided not throw any parties. And they came in and
drank all the beer and then found my bb gun
and built a pyramid out of the empty beer cans
and put him on the wood burning stove and shot them. Yeah,
and like my parents, they didn't know any of that.
But I had to replace the beer and I had
a neighbor drop it off on the front step. My
parents came home early and found it, and so there
was all this shit. So there was this series of
stuff and then they had found my weed. I used
to keep it in the Mickey Mouse piggy bank that
I had since I was like real, real little kid,
and I was behind the door when he opened the
door and it was inside there. Well, they found it.
They found it. They went through everything, go, we know
he's got it. They found it, and I think, like
they left it out. So my mother saw that. She
saw the letter, and I remember there's this big dramatic
moment in my room where they're confronting me, and uh, yeah,
it was. It was awful. It was awful. It was
an awful time.
Speaker 3: We need to ask March about this girl.
Speaker 2: They hated her. They hated her. Yeah, this girl was
everything he didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stop starting to start calling, all right, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I'll call and see what she says.
Speaker 3: Is either margor Kevin Williams one of the two we
got to call.
Speaker 2: No March. Well, uh, Kevin Williams is we already know
what The weather's gonna be bad. It's bad. It's like
living on fucking Mars here right now. See, this is
the time where you hate living here. It is because
unless you even if you ski, I don't give a ship.
Today you're you're up on those mountains with that wind
at suck.
Speaker 4: I don't care how much you love snow and winter
and cold. You're not loving today.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Well, we were Bob and I were drink and then
the driver. Last night.
Speaker 2: We have a neighbor who's you know, she's got one
of those mechanical wheelchairs. And he's looking down the street
and he sees somebody. He's like, who's down there shoveling
the husband and the wife. I go, it's the husband.
She's not plowing. I think I saw somebody with a
video of somebody in an electric wheelchair out pushing, yeah,
pushing like from side to side. And then some neighbor
went over and Kevin, you threw me all off here,
because now I don't I really don't want to bring
this up to my mother because.
Speaker 3: Now we definitely have to.
Speaker 2: She fucking they did not like this young lady at all,
like at all at all.
Speaker 3: Don't have the drive him home. I don't think gets
pissed off.
Speaker 2: Hello, sweet, I'm well mom. We are on the podcast.
Oh and I was talking about someone from my past
and I so, I was telling you stories and then
they said somebody said, I dare you to call your
mother and say this person's name. I just want to
hear your mother's reaction. Hi'm on, marge, Hello, just to
the just to the person's name.
Speaker 10: Now to the person.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I now that I think about it, I'm
afraid to say, who do you think I'm talking about?
Because she could come up with the number on and
it think she.
Speaker 4: Might even be better.
Speaker 10: I'm thinking of the girlfriend, right, the girlfriend. Yeah, what
girlfriend I'm going to forget for me?
Speaker 2: The shower buddy? Yeah, oh holy ship, she got it.
Speaker 4: Oh it's the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 10: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a letter that
you found. Yep, and you never said anything to me
about it. No, Dad, yes, he told me, he goes.
Your mother found the letter.
Speaker 3: She also found something up Mickey's butt.
Speaker 2: No, she didn't. Those were the kids. Those are the
kids who came in the house. They found it. Oh,
they left it out and I didn't see it. Yes,
but okay, wow, you did you knew exactly what I
was talking about.
Speaker 10: I knew exactly. She stands that in my mind. Just
did not make me happy.
Speaker 4: You called that one hundred percent. Yeah that's great.
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild? It's wild? Wow?
Speaker 4: The years.
Speaker 10: Nothing wrong with this old girl's memory. I blocked the name.
I completely give me the name Alison. Alison.
Speaker 4: Yes, how many mothers and fathers would say that about me?
Speaker 10: I think the part that was the worst it was
I knew it was the shower off my bed.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I heard this story. No,
I don't even know what was. I don't even know
what you're referring to. But yes, you can tell the
story now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't tell the story.
I don't remember. I just remember the letter being like
a joke, like written like a Harlequin novel, but like
a really filthy one, like a fifty shades of freaking
awful for your mother to find. No, but I uh,
it was not a shower off your It was not
the shower in your in your house.
Speaker 10: Oh okay.
Speaker 3: We also want to know how mister Moran would have
graded this letter as an English teacher.
Speaker 2: You know he read it too, I know he did.
You're laughing uncomfortably, but I love it. Yeah, these are
these are things like you know now that we're both
in our right, they would even say for me later
in life. We're both in the later years. We need
to say all the ship. I gotta know, I could
write a book. Well, I know Dad was a little
more open about certain things. You get him started. There
are some people from my past that he brings up
to this day. And it's been thirty I'm sure, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, And we didn't need names.
Speaker 3: But yes, but we appreciate it. You got full ones.
I can find them on Facebook.
Speaker 2: No, that's okay, that's okay. Yes, but there was no ship.
I know the shower.
Speaker 3: No, that shower was small, Yes it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you needed a bigger shower. Now, had you had
the house you built after the house burned down, that
shower would have been fantastic.
Speaker 10: That tower was wonderful.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to know anything, but that was yes, okay,
so you got it. You know exactly who I was
talking about.
Speaker 3: So you were the trouble makers, the older one. Does
your mom have any stories that your brother and sister
don't know that she knows.
Speaker 2: About Katie and Kevin. Yeah, no, because they might have done.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 2: I think they tell tell everything, don't they.
Speaker 10: Yeah, there were a few.
Speaker 2: I have a You have a few that they that
they don't know.
Speaker 10: About that they don't know.
Speaker 2: I know, Oh nice, I do remember the My favorite
one was my sister was cooking something pot and they
had some really bad pots and whatever happened, the pot
like sort of melted, the handle melted. The ship was
so scrubbed and arder. My sister and brother didn't know
what to do because it was smoldering and like you know, fire,
So they took it outside and buried it. Here's the
weird part, Matt. My mother never noticed the pot was missing.
Speaker 10: Never noticed the pot was missing. Can you imagine the
outstanding cooks of the year never even noticed.
Speaker 2: They get in a fight and my brother says, and
my mother can overhear this, And my brother goes, yeah, well,
I'll tell mom about the pot, and my mother flips out,
thinking it's weed.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yo, yeah, I can't who running out. When I
found out it was a buried pot up from the yard,
I was a happy camper.
Speaker 2: I can't believe. I can't believe that you the aliceon
woman just popped right in. I believe it. No, I
didn't at all. Oh yeah, I know the girlfriend.
Speaker 3: What that foul raading mouthed?
Speaker 4: Har No?
Speaker 2: Was it her who was at dinner at the table
once and said pass a roll and you threw it
and it hit her in the head. Yeah, I'm pretty
sure you remember doing that, Pass me a roll. My
mother picks up a roll, throws it and hits her
in the side of the head.
Speaker 3: Did Mom get into cocktails for two that night? Too?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh god? The cocktails. All right, well, thank you. There,
you got it. We're on the same wave length, mom,
we are, though, that's a little scary, a little scary.
But yeah. Her name was actually, I won't say her lasting,
but uh, lovely, lovely human being. No, she was a
nice She was nice.
Speaker 10: She probably was if you had met her in your
twenties or something. Yeah, we were out of my house.
Speaker 3: We got to get somebody stories your mom has, your
brother's sister, don't know, just to just to get these.
Speaker 2: I can't do that, all right, really, thank you, Marge,
you have a line finally, No, I said, thank you.
Speaker 10: Oh, you were welcome, You were welcome, all right, I
love you. Yeah, and I really enjoyed watching that show.
Lest man, I'm glad you acute me.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I thought the music was the best part
of it. Honestly, yeah, I really did.
Speaker 10: I thought I liked it all like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, some of there were some funny things, but there
were some things that I did laugh out loud at,
but most of it was Eddie Murphy was kind of funny.
One said, all right, well, I appreciate it, and thank
you for confirming that you did indeed hate Allison.
Speaker 10: It just is like the corruptions was the stuff she
and my son were involved.
Speaker 3: The corruption of your son. Okay, I know I had.
Speaker 10: A correct that they were usually involved in.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, bye bye bye, corrupting her son.
Speaker 2: Oh the shower, yeah, we used to, we had. I
don't think we ever showered at my house. I know
we had showered. I was nineteen so at her house
and she had she lived in a townhouse and she
had the whole basement where it was a walkout basement.
She had a bedroom or own bathroom, and like a
living room down there that it was hers. It was
like her own little studio apartment kind of. And uh.
I remember once like her mother was drunk all the time,
and her father, her stepfather, was there, and so we
were down there alone, probably far too often, and no
one was checking on you to see whatever was happening.
And then somebody was coming downstairs once and I remember scrambling,
and I think I had a hide outside for a
minute because I didn't have pants, and so I'm just waiting. Yeah,
all right, Well that didn't go the way that had
had none. None of this was in my thoughts for
the show tonight. That's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta make it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you go, that's really great. All right, Well we'll
take a break. Allison, I almost said her last name. Uh,
we'll take a break. Come back. We got a little
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There we go. I always call that. I don't know
if I shouldnt even who was mentioning this, but I
called her hell Man. I used to go like her
name was Alison I'm forever reason, I always going, hey, Alman,
what's going on? Like al Man became her nickname for me.
So I can't remember that, dudes, huh because you're in
the dudes. No, no, I just and then it was
it was, But I remember things going on. I can
remember a road trip once and guys speeding up too
to see what was happening at Yeah, you're nineteen. See
here's the weird part. You can go back for yourself
and go, I was nineteen whatever, write it off right
heat in the moment, a lot of hormones, all this stuff.
I got guys a little older than that. Now. I
don't want to know these stories about whatever they did
or didn't do or are doing. I don't. I want
nothing to know.
Speaker 3: We got to get this girl on the show just
specifically to find out, Hey, if she's married. If she's not,
she's anywhere near town. You guys gotta go out just
so just so you can call your mom be like, hey, I'm.
Speaker 4: Going take a little selfie.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'd send it to your mom, just.
Speaker 3: Her holding a yellow legal pad.
Speaker 4: Then you could get a dinner roll, hold it to
her head and take a picture.
Speaker 2: I swear to god, that was my That was like
my mother. She threw it. She thought she was being funny,
and I think it was my Maybe it was me
that asked for and I was on the other side
of her, and it just beamed it right in the
side of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could have been you asking for her.
But she definitely didn't miss that throat.
Speaker 2: Oh no, my mother absolutely did. But she was you know,
she was fun Jesus.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It was a good ride.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of drama with that too, though, But
you were nineteen and she lived with a bunch of
girls and they were on a college campus, went to
Marris College. So yeah, there's all kinds of stuff. I
think I met her through the radio because I was
on the radio.
Speaker 3: I got this guy's home alone tonight. Just I can't
imagine what he's going to do to himself tonight.
Speaker 2: Glory No, No, but I remember, so Matt. I worked.
I had I when I went to the community college
because my father father told me i'd drink my way
out of regular college, and I only got one shot
on his dime and he was paying well. Great, So
I went to the community college and I didn't want
to be home, so I would either I would stay
on campus do my homework. And then I had a
job at a deli. It was like a mini Wegman's,
but way back it was called Adams Ferroker Farms. They
had a high end coffee section already could get chocolate
covered coffee beans, different kinds of coffee they were grinding
for you. Daryl Hall used to come in because he
didn't live far away, and I worked in the deli there,
and I was also doing like midnight to six from
Saturday Friday night into Saturday and Saturday night into Sunday.
Those were the first FM on airshifts I could get.
I was nineteen. Well, Saturday night, these girls start calling
up and they're talking to you and stuff, and then
you know, of course they're all drunk at a party
and hey can you play this song? And hey, how
old are you? And we're talking and I tell him
and then I said where I worked, and they all
came in and I and that's how I met her.
And then after that it was I think we went
out for like two or three years.
Speaker 4: I met a guy yesterday who worked in radio with
you somewhere up there in I wish I didn't remember
his name.
Speaker 2: I bet I know it is. It was it Mike No, Ninny.
Speaker 4: No, No, Jered Gerald Gerard.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Oh if you see him, but this that was I
was like, whoa, yeah, so that's how I met her.
She was calling number nine. But man, my mother, fuck it,
that was so funny. I did not want to do
that that way. I know, I did not want to
do it, but then I just go after fuck it.
If it's making me this uncomfortable, it's got to be good, exactly.
Speaker 3: I know what buttons to push on.
Speaker 2: I always think, like it's on my first rodeo I
found I'm really afraid to do something. I'll always unless
it's well, even if I have a danger dying, but
I'll go, well, fuck it, I'll learn how to do it.
You know what I mean. If it's you know something.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you to call this girl. We're gonna
we're gonna find Yeah, we're gonna find her in call her.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she I'm wondering if she'd even
want to talk to me. I don't remember how it ended.
I think it drifted and then I came back to
Fisher and I started thirty years ago. I was in
if somebody's got that hostile, I mean, other than she
tried to murder, you can't be that bad. I thought,
there's enough, hey for the pot if he murdered another girl. Though,
if we call my dad and he won't come on
the podcast, so that's okay, So I'm off the hook
of that one. But if we called him. He hated
this other girl. And I was in my twenties and
she came on a trip to Europe with us, and
holy shit that he fucking he couldn't stand her.
Speaker 4: That's a long time to be with somebody you don't like. Yeah,
another country.
Speaker 2: Getting drunk and falling down, and I mean he was
like then she had a Beavis and butt Head keychain.
We're on one of those boats where you're punting up
the river, like the guy stands in the front. You're going,
we're going down to the bridge. Yeah, and she hits
the Beavis and butt Head laugh and it echoes. My
father was like out of his fucking mind. He did
all he wanted to do. Is I was hoping she
fell out and drowned. It's awful. Yeah. I had a
string of winners.
Speaker 3: There Tomorrow we'll play the game with your dad and see.
Speaker 2: If he won't all right, give me the Uh see
how badly I lose this one.
Speaker 4: I think you're safe.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: By the way, the bTB Hot sauce, the meat sauce
is delicious for.
Speaker 4: Sale just just about anywhere you can think of.
Speaker 2: No really inside okay.
Speaker 4: Any little farm markets, yeah, any little stores.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and that BTV.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you have to do to get into those
other places? Can I ask that question? It's it's a
big process.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I have a guy who actually does it for me
as a friend of mine. He gets a commission for it,
but he goes there and and just talks to people
and he gets them in. And then we do a
lot of free tastings. Yeah, you know, like Saturday, we're
just out at night Black Foods and you know, for
four hours you get out free tastings. And they sold
almost three cases of meat sauce. Wow. Yeah, it's good.
The tastings work.
Speaker 2: The meat sauce is phenomenal. Like I'm taking this one home.
The only thing left crackers and meat sauce. Yeah. Maybe
the meat sauce is very good. I'm sorry. I didn't
mean to go.
Speaker 4: On add nothing to do with that. She's that's her recipe.
Speaker 2: That's all, Connie, Connie, all right, go ahead. I'm waiting
to hear that tune.
Speaker 4: Jesus, oh, I know the song?
Speaker 2: How much have like a TV theme songs?
Speaker 3: I know everybody knows the song, which you don't know
the song?
Speaker 11: Everybody knows my name. But something about it still feels
strange looking in the mirror, trying to steady yourself and
seeing somebody else and everything is not the same. It
feels like all their lives have changed. Maybe when to
molder it or all calmed down. It's killing me.
Speaker 2: Now what if you had it all? But nobody?
Speaker 3: Remember seeing that one live Dunelive on Saturday Live. It
was really cool. This was not further away.
Speaker 2: I planned.
Speaker 3: My yes, Barnburger all going on here? Zero zero?
Speaker 2: You have no idea. I'm blacking my page over purpose.
Speaker 6: I used to.
Speaker 9: Just try it on ki I for you, God, no
chancing the one?
Speaker 3: You gets this one?
Speaker 2: How dareus this one?
Speaker 3: Just this one strictly in there for the theme?
Speaker 6: Did ev it?
Speaker 2: I wrote down something I couldn't even tell you I
wrote down you might get the artist.
Speaker 1: You make me come on the last one, you make
me conte.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wasn't sure what I had A letter like
that one still to what s.
Speaker 7: Watch everything goes, but.
Speaker 3: There's some coming. You guys will get at the end.
Speaker 4: I think I'm tanking the night.
Speaker 2: Oh me too. That's the worst one ever even look.
Speaker 7: Again, She sits back and ignored money.
Speaker 6: Dude, are she's gotten me?
Speaker 2: Thanks for paytention to the game.
Speaker 3: Glad I wrote it.
Speaker 9: She's only it's such a bedful dream scene.
Speaker 4: This is some Cloorman shy mine.
Speaker 2: Is some chloroform who wrote that? Jim Norton.
Speaker 4: And ever done to us?
Speaker 2: You know this one?
Speaker 4: This one, this is bad. I don't know, but not
this time.
Speaker 2: This will be an education for us. Sure well, I
won't remember any.
Speaker 4: Of the time.
Speaker 3: I'm not making it rotch enough. You won't remember it
thirty years later.
Speaker 2: This is it. It was dirty, He'd have it. That
girl was dirty. She was dirty Like this what I
want to feel.
Speaker 3: I feel bad for your ceiling tonight.
Speaker 2: I almost died. I'm too old. They won't hit that far.
Speaker 3: Dust b Na like there's a new pope.
Speaker 2: She was dirty. I almost died once I thought I'm
not for sure.
Speaker 4: I sounds like you need no spin around the block.
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't do it. No, but no for
your mom. I think I think known do it from March.
I'm off on my theme already, only.
Speaker 3: It's not Duck's dad, but uh.
Speaker 12: Fall.
Speaker 2: I think I had to tap out with that girl
one time. Oh no, because she was reverse reverse. It
was like a set of my race kind of situation
and she started again. No I'm smart. I was like, like,
all of a sudden, it was like all her weight
was right, and I was like what I couldn't read.
Speaker 3: What a way to go? Though?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they say it's a great way, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Suffocating sounds horrible no matter how you're suffocating.
Speaker 12: That At that point, I got kids, got this one right?
Speaker 3: Please tell me you got this one?
Speaker 4: I know the son.
Speaker 2: You're gonna cut off.
Speaker 3: This might be a first ever or not the game
very well to be. This could be a flyer on
the on the on the theme and that'll win. Yep,
you called it and cutting it off, that's it. Back
to the top.
Speaker 2: So this has some eight early nineties pot of his
eighties eighties eighties pop. Okay, I'm trying to just going.
Is this it's a dude singing.
Speaker 3: It's boy meets girl waiting for a star to fall?
Speaker 2: Oh what didn't know?
Speaker 4: I still don't have a clue.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a TV fucking theme song which the sax
comes there. I said, this was Justin Bieber. This is
Justin Bieber.
Speaker 3: Did you get a name on the song?
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 3: The name of the song is Lonely Justin Bieber and
Benny Blanco.
Speaker 11: Everybody knows my name.
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, think this.
Speaker 4: Is not It's not kissed the Girl.
Speaker 3: It is I kissed it.
Speaker 4: Nice job, man, God, I thought, playing the same that song.
Speaker 3: Curious, See what you wrote down on this one, I wrote,
it is not Durant Ship.
Speaker 2: I wrote nothing.
Speaker 3: It is Morrissey hairdresser on fire.
Speaker 2: So far. I have a point too. I you make
me come, Yeah, I know. I this is lit miserable.
I always like you. There are a couple of songs
by the Litter. Really liked this one.
Speaker 3: This is the favorite one my one of my favorite bands.
This is Flickerstick Chloroform, the one you loved.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. She sits back I've never heard
a flickerstick.
Speaker 3: They were on a they won a reality show on
Beach one back in the day, and they had a
decent run for a while. Do you do who this is?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Not this time Bernaud ladies break your heart? Did you know?
Speaker 2: All? Right? This one?
Speaker 9: We know?
Speaker 2: Man? Elvis, it's Elvis only can't help falling in love,
fall in love with you?
Speaker 3: Well give them, Give them two on that one, because.
Speaker 2: They had a whole three. I have two points, just one.
You just you just crunched it. Oh, I know this one.
I think Matt did win. By the way, this is
you two. It is where the sheets have no stains,
I mean, where the streets have no name.
Speaker 3: It is I have been found fucking what I'm looking at?
I got three?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I got to Oh I got two
out of last one and one earlier.
Speaker 2: How did I not get this one?
Speaker 3: I loved this album on the theme for Tonight.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be SNL artist, But I
Elvis threw to blew that out of the water. Elvis
was not Elvis ever. No, he died in seventy six.
Speaker 3: Fifty years It could have been on the first album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was on at seventy three. I don't know.
I just I was.
Speaker 3: I was legitimately asked seventy five.
Speaker 2: I don't think so it would have been bad bloated
el Yeah, I don't think he was.
Speaker 3: I don't know, have to look it up.
Speaker 2: But I figured everybody else are there was, so that
was my guess. It is not I mean guess it
all rough sex for letter writers, one night stands.
Speaker 3: Oh good, you know what, I'm gonna give it to him.
God damn. This is Bill Moran looking for love and
all the wrong place meets girl lonely. I kissed a
girl hair dresser, Matt chloroform, the one you love, break
your heart, look at Matt, can't help falling. And I
still haven't found That's it.
Speaker 4: That's all right, matter somebody in the worst one of
the night.
Speaker 2: I'm putting this comment up. Uh, fuck Kevin, do you
know any of these before he did this game? Fuck Kevin,
I knew every single one of them. Elvis died in
seventy seven. I'm sorry. Uh, I still haven't found what
I'm looking for? Me all right? Then? He get us
all over? Are you already packed to go on vacation?
Speaker 4: Is she and yes she is.
Speaker 2: Yes, why is that?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I usually I am and I'm not.
I gonna get down it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why what it seems like I would be
last minute, dude, you would be last minute with a
garbage bag. But potentially, But like if I had.
Speaker 4: Summer, I'm not nothing. I'm wearing now.
Speaker 2: No, right, it's all ship. You know that you're not
gonna need in the next couple of days. So why
but she's already packed. She seemed you're I I don't
know her well. I met her a few times. She
seems like she is on top of every like in
a good way, not a bad way. I don't mean
that way, but like she just has her ship together.
Speaker 3: If you wait till like Tuesday or Wednesday, will she
pack your ship for you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: She probably would if I asked her to, but I don't
want to. I'm okay packing my ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if she would just take take there?
Speaker 4: So I need some bathing suits, you know, I'm sure
some good.
Speaker 2: No. I always waited till the too long and people
packed for me, and I looked it up. Elvis was
never on Saturday night last Okay, I figured that well, no,
it was. It was worth of a shock because it
would have been really funny if he was right, especially
if he was on with Belushi and Belushi did it
an Elvis because he always did fat guy stuff. That
would have been really really funny. I don't know anyway, Well,
have a great, uh, great trip. I'm jealous. Bring the
fucking sun back with you. Try man man Jamaica. Have
you been to Jamaica?
Speaker 4: I never have because not one place I've been to.
Where are the Caribbean Cayman Islands?
Speaker 2: Have you done a cruise before?
Speaker 4: I've done two cruises.
Speaker 2: Do you like them?
Speaker 4: I like the inclusive better. Yeah, I don't like the
cruise ship drops you off at a port that you know.
It's basically a tourist trap, is what it is.
Speaker 3: So I don't like.
Speaker 4: Being on somebody else's time schedule. I like to be
able to do the things I want to do. You know,
don't tell me what time I have to be on
the boat and stuff. But it's something different. It'll be good.
But taking the kids so.
Speaker 2: To be oh, oh this is a whole family.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, everybody get their own room. So he's not
going to explore Jamaica.
Speaker 4: There's three different rooms, so that the boys have a room,
and then her daughter and her friend are going in.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, alright, that's good. Good good space it out,
space it out. Everybody, well, very good. Enjoy getting out
of the cold weather. And uh what we see in
two weeks?
Speaker 4: Yep, two weeks?
Speaker 2: All right, very good. Stop stop stop the Toronto thing
that looks scary as hell?
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you just like to hear what it sounded like?
Like it?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 2: I gotta think people are never ever ever going to
forget that sound, whatever that was.
Speaker 3: I feel like your mother never ever forgot that letter exactly.
Speaker 2: That was the plane crash of her life. For Matt Race,
get to betb wood fire pieces and grill the mall
at Grease Range. For Kevin giving me bad ideas. To
my mom for playing along and remembering, Oh the girlfriend,
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow, California.
Speaker 7: Baby, things are gotten worth.
Speaker 3: It's a land up opportunity for me. Is just the
perfect gather