Speaker 1: This is a studio both and production. In understanding Hunter's Washington,
Speaker 1: we have to take a few steps back and take
Speaker 1: a look at what we know about Keys's crimes prior
Speaker 1: to his move to Alaska, and how what he's told
Speaker 1: us about those crimes may tie into eastern Washington. So
Speaker 1: for the next few episodes, we'll be spending less time
Speaker 1: in Hunters and more time diving into the at least
Speaker 1: five Washington area victims. Keys told the FBI about the
Speaker 1: male female couple, two separate victims who were buried using
Speaker 1: his boat, and one victim whose body was found but
Speaker 1: whose death was ruled accidental. Through my meetings with Holla,
Speaker 1: Old and new FOIA files and other interviews, we've learned
Speaker 1: a great deal more about these victims. But I want
Speaker 1: to be clear. I believe that there are more than
Speaker 1: just five victims in the Washington state area between two
Speaker 1: thousand and one and two thousand and seven. Just because
Speaker 1: Keys eluded to five Washington State area victims does not
Speaker 1: mean there were merely five Washington State area victims. In fact,
Speaker 1: I believe there's more than likely double that number. This
Speaker 1: is true crime bullshit. The serialized investigation into Israel, Keys
Speaker 1: season seven, Episode nine. Kutineye will begin in the Kuteneie
Speaker 1: National Forest, a federally managed park located in northwestern Montana
Speaker 1: that spans the entirety of the northern Idahope Panhandle along
Speaker 1: the U. S. Canadian border. The forest is approximately two
Speaker 1: point two million acres and it includes the Cooteneye and
Speaker 1: Clark Fork Rivers, three major hydroelectric dams, Lake Kukanoosa, and
Speaker 1: Priest Lake, among more than one hundred others, more than
Speaker 1: ninety miles of hiking trails, and peaks with elevation greater
Speaker 1: than eight thousand feet. The general area has always been
Speaker 1: on our radar. It's a fairly small swath of land
Speaker 1: that spans multiple state lines Washington, Idaho, Montana, and the U. S.
Speaker 1: Canadian border. It would be a very easy area to
Speaker 1: abduct someone from one state and then bury them in another.
Speaker 1: In fact, the quickest route from Washington State to Montana
Speaker 1: is a long route too, through the Cooteneye National Forest,
Speaker 1: which just takes an hour and fifteen minutes its own,
Speaker 1: about a ninety minute drive from Calville, and it connects
Speaker 1: directly to Spokane via US Route two, the US highway
Speaker 1: that connects Everett, Washington, all the way to Smyrna, Maine
Speaker 1: to Keys hotspots. And while this area has always been
Speaker 1: on our radar due to its proximity to Callville and
Speaker 1: multiple state lines, it only recently became a central focus
Speaker 1: of our Washington investigation because we received more Keys maps
Speaker 1: from the FBI. Last week, a listener named Emmett reached
Speaker 1: out to ask if we had received files from a
Speaker 1: specific FOYA we filed earlier this year. We had not.
Speaker 1: Luckily for us, Emmett had seen the riding on the
Speaker 1: wall during the transition of power and cabinet appointments following
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, and he more hastily filed
Speaker 1: this specific FOYA in fear of a shut down or
Speaker 1: slowdowns within the federal government and FBI, which did eventually come.
Speaker 1: And so while we waited for our response, Emmett sent
Speaker 1: along his thirty three pages of maps seized from Keys,
Speaker 1: and we'd only previously seen about half of those maps.
Speaker 1: It's worth noting these were not maps extracted from his computer.
Speaker 1: These are physical maps that were found from multiple properties.
Speaker 1: There were maps of New Hampshire, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: There were maps with keys handwriting on them. There were
Speaker 1: maps he numerated. There were maps with circles and highlights,
Speaker 1: and there were multiple topographic maps of the Kootenaye National Forest.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. I know what you have because I
Speaker 2: know you have the computer.
Speaker 3: Right and I've got maps. I mean, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not I'm never going to bluff you Israel, Okay, I've
Speaker 3: got maps.
Speaker 4: That I know.
Speaker 3: Come up with a bunch of other states. Okay, I've
Speaker 3: got Washington, Texas, Utah, mon, I've got I could list
Speaker 3: them out for it.
Speaker 2: I like, I say, I know what's on that computer.
Speaker 2: I know what you have. I know as time goes by,
Speaker 2: the longer I'm in the system, the longer the investigation
Speaker 2: goes on, You're going to keep finding things. You're going
Speaker 2: to start to connect dots. I'm only going to give
Speaker 2: you the dots that I know you're going to eventually connect,
Speaker 2: basically what's on that computer. And frankly, if I hadn't
Speaker 2: been picked up in Texas, that computer would be in
Speaker 2: the landfill right now because I was going to get
Speaker 2: Kimberly March twenty fourth new computer. So I'm telling you
Speaker 2: that you Yeah, that's all you're a smart guy.
Speaker 3: Get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to talk about those things that
Speaker 2: I know you're eventually going to connect me to unless
Speaker 2: I know that I'm going to get what I want,
Speaker 2: and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I tell me, tell me what you want. I don't
Speaker 3: know what you want.
Speaker 2: Well, it's related to what to that.
Speaker 3: Case, so well, to tell me what you want if
Speaker 3: that case didn't exist and we were going to connect
Speaker 3: the dots on other bodies, tell.
Speaker 4: Me what you would want.
Speaker 2: I want the I want an execution date.
Speaker 5: A bunch of maps, Yeah, anything, you should computer any
Speaker 5: X on them, anywhere, highlight.
Speaker 4: Highlights the.
Speaker 6: Only map you don't have highlight.
Speaker 7: I didn't believe highlight.
Speaker 3: I don't know what about the map that.
Speaker 6: When you hit There was one in the car. I
Speaker 6: think it was highlighted.
Speaker 7: When I was arrested.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but I didn't do the highlight anymore.
Speaker 8: Well, it was the interstate that was highlighted, and it
Speaker 8: don't seem to really be an interstate kind of person.
Speaker 7: Well, that's just.
Speaker 1: As is mentioned in that clip, we know that some
Speaker 1: of these maps were seized from his rental car upon
Speaker 1: his arrest. They're the maps I already received and discussed
Speaker 1: earlier this season, the map with Port Angeles to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles highlighted, the map with Flaming Gorge Reservoir, and Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City to Green River highlighted, along with other cities
Speaker 1: in Washington and Oregon. And we know that some of
Speaker 1: these other maps were found at the Constable House. Again
Speaker 1: they mentioned it in the previous clip, and the copies
Speaker 1: we have appear to be ripped out of an old
Speaker 1: atlas and then secured within an old real estate mailer
Speaker 1: that was sent from Winslow, Maine in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 1: which likely corresponds to the Keyes family looking to move
Speaker 1: to Smyrna Main the following year. It's unclear, however, if
Speaker 1: those are the sole origins of these maps, or if
Speaker 1: there are other maps in this file that were seized
Speaker 1: from other places. What we do know is the Montana
Speaker 1: maps were found in Constable and likely include the Kuteniye maps,
Speaker 1: which were interesting because, in addition to their being multiple
Speaker 1: of them, those maps seem to drill down on a
Speaker 1: single location within the Kuteneye National Park. The Coutenie maps
Speaker 1: seem to drill down to and focus on a stretch
Speaker 1: of U S Route too between Troy, Montana and Elmira, Idaho.
Speaker 1: That stretch crosses the Idaho Montana state line, passes through
Speaker 1: two large valleys, one at the Koutenei National Wildlife Refuge
Speaker 1: and one just north of Lake Pendoa, and then one
Speaker 1: narrow valley along the Yak River. This segment of Route
Speaker 1: two also travels along segments of Deep Creek and the
Speaker 1: Koutene River, But this span that seems to be of
Speaker 1: such great interest to him is just fifty miles. The
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Speaker 1: all out of the ordinary. Let's begin by taking a
Speaker 1: look at when israel Keys could have been in Kootenay
Speaker 1: National Forest and how those times may correspond to what
Speaker 1: we know about is Washington State victims and any potential
Speaker 1: victims we've looked at previously. Now, it's worth pointing out
Speaker 1: that Keys could have traveled to or through this area
Speaker 1: at almost any point between getting his driver's license in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five and leaving the area in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 1: although based on what he's told us and what we
Speaker 1: know about this time in his life, it's unlikely he
Speaker 1: committed any murders in the Washington State area during the
Speaker 1: time frame Following his move to the East Coast and
Speaker 1: then army training in Texas, California, and Panama. Keyes wasn't
Speaker 1: back in Washington until he was stationed at Fort Lewis
Speaker 1: in the summer of nineteen ninety nine. Our records indicate
Speaker 1: that he first traveled to eastern Washington over Thanksgiving weekend
Speaker 1: that year, when he visited Annie in Calville. He rented
Speaker 1: a car and drove out for the holiday weekend, and
Speaker 1: between his departure from Annie's and his return of that
Speaker 1: rental car, Gary Shawn Bryant mysteriously disappeared from Morton, Washington,
Speaker 1: not far from an armed robbery the following day, on
Speaker 1: January fourth of two thousand, just eleven days before going
Speaker 1: to Egypt, Keyes rented a car in Spokane, Washington. It's
Speaker 1: unclear how he got to Spokane or for how long
Speaker 1: he stayed. According to an FBI interview with Annie, Keyes
Speaker 1: visited her again in Callville over the weekend of July
Speaker 1: twenty eighth, two thousand and then again over the weekend
Speaker 1: of October sixth, two thousand and According to a second
Speaker 1: interview with Annie, Keyes returned in August of two thousand
Speaker 1: and one to help her move from Calville, Washington to Holbrook, Idaho.
Speaker 1: Keyes would return to the Calville area that December, when
Speaker 1: Tammy reported that he took her son James to visit
Speaker 1: his father over a weekend that month. And then, of
Speaker 1: course there's that April second, two thousand and five trip
Speaker 1: when Keys drove out to look at the boat and
Speaker 1: visit friends in eastern Washington. He bought the boat the
Speaker 1: following weekend, on or around April ninth, two thousand four,
Speaker 1: and it remains unclear whether that happened in Moses Lake
Speaker 1: or Port Angelus. But that boat trip or those boat trips,
Speaker 1: they're the last time we can place Keys with certainty
Speaker 1: in eastern Washington before his move to Alaska, and it's
Speaker 1: the t trip the FBI and ted Halla are most
Speaker 1: interested in. However, we do have two very interesting tips
Speaker 1: placing Israel Keys in the Kuteneye National Forest. In November
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, I received an email from a
Speaker 1: listener who believed that Keys had followed her in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night a long route too from Spokane, Washington,
Speaker 1: all the way to Priest Lake in Idaho in the
Speaker 1: Kutenaye National Forest. She wrote that the man flashed his
Speaker 1: lights at her and continually sped up behind her, almost
Speaker 1: touching her bumper, before slowing back down over and over again.
Speaker 1: At times, he would wave his arms at her, trying
Speaker 1: to get her to pull over on the side of
Speaker 1: the highway. She would slow down, hoping he was just
Speaker 1: trying to pass her, but he wouldn't. He'd pull up
Speaker 1: right behind her until she sped up again. She had
Speaker 1: just stopped to Philip Gass, so she knew that her
Speaker 1: gas wasn't empty, None of the warning lights were on
Speaker 1: in her car, and she could tell that her tire
Speaker 1: wasn't flat, so she couldn't think of any reason why
Speaker 1: this man would be trying to get her to pull over.
Speaker 1: So frantically for so long the man followed her for
Speaker 1: over an hour before she eventually pulled off the highway
Speaker 1: to go to the cabin where she was meeting friends.
Speaker 1: One of her friends would later tell her that this
Speaker 1: same stretch of highways where there was no cell service.
Speaker 1: She did not describe the driver's car nor his appearance,
Speaker 1: simply stating that she thought it could be keys, and
Speaker 1: she believed that this occurred over Independence or Memorial Day
Speaker 1: weekend in two thousand six, seven or eight. Additionally, another
Speaker 1: listener reported just a year and a half ago that
Speaker 1: he believed he saw Israel keys at Priest Lake over
Speaker 1: the summer of two thousand six. He described a tall,
Speaker 1: white man in his late twenties or early thirties with
Speaker 1: greasy shoulder length wavy air walking alone along one of
Speaker 1: the lakeside trails. He said that the memory only stands
Speaker 1: out because the man made him incredibly uncomfortable, and that
Speaker 1: he was mirroring the witness's movements whenever the witness would
Speaker 1: stop on the trail, so with the man, almost as
Speaker 1: though the man were intentionally trying to keep the same
Speaker 1: distance between himself and the witness. This went on for
Speaker 1: a while until at one point the witness noticed the
Speaker 1: man walk from the trail and into the woods, and
Speaker 1: rather than proceeding forward toward the man, the witness decided
Speaker 1: to turn round and head back. When looking at this
Speaker 1: area and the dates we can and can possibly place
Speaker 1: keys there, six cases immediately come to mind. One Helen
Speaker 1: Suzanne Gracia, two Ellen Beth Sloane, three Nicholas Edward Welchlin,
Speaker 1: four David Eugene Lewis, five Roxanne Mary Toulsen, and six
Speaker 1: Zachary Weston. As you may recall from my previous coverage,
Speaker 1: Helen Gracia disappeared from Anaconda, Montana, on May twenty third
Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight. On the morning of her disappearance,
Speaker 1: she told her family that she was heading out to
Speaker 1: pick up groceries and a prescription for her mother, but
Speaker 1: she never returned home from those errands. At some point
Speaker 1: that afternoon, an eyewitness saw Helen with an unknown male
Speaker 1: companion at the Rock Inn tavern in downtown Anaconda, and
Speaker 1: that was the last known sighting of Helen. Two days later,
Speaker 1: on May twenty fifth, Helen's was discovered parked behind a
Speaker 1: different bar one block away from the Rock in Tavern.
Speaker 1: Helene's purse, along with her groceries on her mother's prescription,
Speaker 1: were found locked inside the car. Keys cannot be accounted
Speaker 1: for between late February until early June of two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, when an old friend ran into him on
Speaker 1: a ferry heading toward the Olympic Peninsula in Washington. We
Speaker 1: do know that Kimberly was working in Rock Springs, Wyoming
Speaker 1: from May nineteenth until June seventh. And while Anaconda, Montana
Speaker 1: is barely a bullip on the map, if you drove
Speaker 1: from Rock Springs to Callville, you drive right through both
Speaker 1: it and the Cooteneye National Forest. Additionally, while it's the
Speaker 1: less credible sighting, the priest Lake car incident took place
Speaker 1: over either Independence or Memorial Day weekend in two thousand six,
Speaker 1: seven or eight, and Helen Gracia disappeared over Memorial Day
Speaker 1: weekend of two thousand eight. Ellen Beth Sloane disappeared from
Speaker 1: her home on South Shore Route and puls in Montana
Speaker 1: on April sixteenth of two thousand five, exactly one week
Speaker 1: after Keys bought the bay Liner boat. Twelve days after
Speaker 1: Ellen was last seen on April twenty eighth, her silver
Speaker 1: two thousand two Toyota Tundra truck was found seventy miles
Speaker 1: away at a shopping center in Missoula, Montana, and it
Speaker 1: appeared that Ellen may have been traveling at the time
Speaker 1: of her disappearance because her truck was packed full of
Speaker 1: luggage and her possessions. When Ellen disappeared, both she and
Speaker 1: her boyfriend were riddled with legal issues. Ellen had recently
Speaker 1: been charged with federal tax evasion, and she had just
Speaker 1: posted bond for her boyfriend, who had been arrested for incest.
Speaker 1: After posting his bond, she moved her boyfriend into her home,
Speaker 1: where within days he had used both Ellen's name and
Speaker 1: her son's name to attain lines of credit and credit
Speaker 1: cards for himself, and ten days after her disappearance, her
Speaker 1: son kicked her boyfriend out of the house and he
Speaker 1: eventually disappeared until twenty nineteen, when he was arrested for
Speaker 1: possession of meth. According to the Charley Project, authorities believe
Speaker 1: that Ellen's boyfriend may know more about her disappearance, However,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been charged in connection to it. And while
Speaker 1: I air on the side of Sloane's boyfriend being involved
Speaker 1: in her disappearance. There are few details in her case
Speaker 1: that stand out to me. Specifically, this is right in
Speaker 1: the window of time that the FBI believed the Hunter's
Speaker 1: farmhouse visit occurred, and we know that Keys had been
Speaker 1: in the general area at least once, if not twice,
Speaker 1: in the weeks before her day disappearance. And now it
Speaker 1: stands out because Ellen Sloane disappeared just ninety minutes south
Speaker 1: of the Cooteneye National Forest. Next up is David Eugene Lewis,
Speaker 1: who disappeared while boating on Priest Lake on July twenty
Speaker 1: third of two thousand and four. There isn't much information
Speaker 1: available online about David's case, but what we do know
Speaker 1: is that on the morning that he disappeared, he told
Speaker 1: friends that he was going boating at Priest Lake, and
Speaker 1: that same morning he left his Sandpoint, Idaho home with
Speaker 1: his unidentified car and boat. Later that day, David's empty
Speaker 1: boat was found on Priest Lake with no sign of David.
Speaker 1: Local law enforcement conducted extensive searches of the lake and
Speaker 1: surrounding area, but with no luck. At the time of
Speaker 1: his disappearance, David was fifty four years old and six
Speaker 1: foot three and two hundred twenty pounds. While David's case
Speaker 1: remains open, he is presumed drowned. Obviously, his case stands
Speaker 1: out because of multiple sightings at Priest Lake in addition
Speaker 1: to Keys specifically referencing one of his victims being presumed drowned,
Speaker 1: but of course that could be connected to any one
Speaker 1: of multiple people we've mentioned on the show before who
Speaker 1: were presumed drowning during some sort of lake incident. Keys
Speaker 1: can't be placed anywhere between May twenty fifth, two thousand
Speaker 1: four and August first, two thousand four, although there is
Speaker 1: one credible and terrifying sighting of him in Bountiful, Utah
Speaker 1: in early summer two thousand four two thousand six. You
Speaker 1: may recall this is where a man was aggressively following
Speaker 1: a woman on the freeway until she finally parked. When
Speaker 1: he noticed that she was pregnant, he got upset, asked
Speaker 1: for directions, said that he was a contractor from out
Speaker 1: of state, and then disappeared. The other three cases I
Speaker 1: mentioned stand out the most because they don't just line
Speaker 1: up with the locations and time frames we've been looking at,
Speaker 1: they also line up with each other or other cases
Speaker 1: we've looked at. Before.
Speaker 2: Oh, one of the Washington things that was.
Speaker 7: Uh, uh doesn't I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's just no, it wasn't.
Speaker 7: It wasn't s strangles.
Speaker 9: Uh I hit somebody in the head.
Speaker 7: So did that?
Speaker 3: Did you mean to kill anim where they died? Is
Speaker 3: there a struggle and you get them and they died
Speaker 3: or what did you.
Speaker 9: Need to kill about?
Speaker 7: I'm trying to kill 'em?
Speaker 3: I just uh tek them out of action.
Speaker 10: I read that in one of those letters you sort the.
Speaker 7: Mail you don't need no comfor.
Speaker 4: That's a lot.
Speaker 10: O d You mentioned that they gave you all.
Speaker 7: I should have asked.
Speaker 4: Him, so give any copies so I know which ones
Speaker 4: you would have.
Speaker 3: We could go over that together and you could fill
Speaker 3: any lags.
Speaker 1: At some point in time, Roxanne Toulsen and Zachary Weston
Speaker 1: disappeared within twenty four hours of one another, and Nicholas
Speaker 1: Edward Welchlan and Celia Darlene Barnes also disappeared within twenty
Speaker 1: four hours of one another. And we'll dig into all
Speaker 1: four of those cases next week on True Crime Bullshit.
Speaker 10: Most of our efforts have been since he passed has
Speaker 10: been to really try to look at missing persons cases.
Speaker 10: That you know, potentially be connected to him, knowing that
Speaker 10: the data, we may not be seeing the data at all,
Speaker 10: because you know, he made it clear that early on
Speaker 10: his victims received little to no media attention. That you know,
Speaker 10: he had this uncanny luck of grabbing people that didn't
Speaker 10: go easily missed. But all he had to really look
Speaker 10: for is what was already out there and hope that
Speaker 10: you know, one or two of those may coincide with
Speaker 10: one of his victims. And what we what I learned,
Speaker 10: you know, is that with missing children, there's really good
Speaker 10: databases and there's good records, but with missing adults that's
Speaker 10: not the case. You know, if you look at people
Speaker 10: that go missing from out of state a lot of time,
Speaker 10: the record of their missing is from their home state,
Speaker 10: not where they went missing. So it became clear that
Speaker 10: it was going to be really hard for us to
Speaker 10: feel like we had a good grasp of all the
Speaker 10: missing people in a particular area because we don't. But
Speaker 10: the data base, especially back then, just weren't that good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, which it brings up I think a point of
Speaker 8: frustration for us is particularly earlier on in his criminal activity,
Speaker 8: he was operating mostly in state parks or you know,
Speaker 8: federal land, places where tourists generally flock to. So you know,
Speaker 8: as we go through NamUs, I've had to remember, like
Speaker 8: I can't just click on Pacific Northwest disappearances because they
Speaker 8: could be anybody.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, later.
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Speaker 9: Posing it back there again.
Speaker 6: By Sell, I shall serve to mald.
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