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<v Speaker 1>Something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's gonna happen? Help?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, thank you for joining us. It's another

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<v Speaker 1>this is magical mailbag. I wanted to I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>throw in that little tribute to uh my boy Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Moore there. If you guys don't know about Trevor Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>he was she was a silly motherfucker and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he made a lot of videos like that and

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<v Speaker 1>they killed him for it. So, you know, they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand to have a guy like that sort of take

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<v Speaker 1>the place of somebody like Alex Jones because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you see younger dude, and he had a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>longeviany and he didn't really have any sort of allegiance

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<v Speaker 1>to and the things that Alex Jones does. So right

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<v Speaker 1>around the COVID time they popped him, and uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly why he died, and they haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>gone into too much detail about it, but yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Moore. So if you guys don't know, look up

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<v Speaker 1>the whitest kids you know, and Trevor Moore and Kitty history.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the funnier ones. I thought, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys would bite that one. So what do we have

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<v Speaker 1>for symbols tonight? Did you have yours? Ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Yeah, let me just pull up the image real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have the Sata square. I couldn't remember if

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<v Speaker 3>I've done that or not before, so I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I have, I'm sorry, But I do think

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<v Speaker 3>this will be a little bit different. So in the

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<v Speaker 3>first time it did actually get a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>on it than I've seen before. All right, there it is, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>pull it off for you, all right. So, yes, we

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<v Speaker 3>have the Sata square. This was a little interesting. Sanata

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<v Speaker 3>square is an ancient Roman magic square consisting of five

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<v Speaker 3>Latin words sata, a repo, tenant, opera, rotas arranged in

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<v Speaker 3>a five by five grid. Each row in column reads reads,

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<v Speaker 3>reads the same forward and backward, forming a two dimensional palindrome.

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<v Speaker 3>A date backs at least to the early first century

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<v Speaker 3>a d. The oldest known example was found etched on

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<v Speaker 3>a Pompeii column pre a d. Sixty two, which we

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<v Speaker 3>will go back to on this whole thing right here

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<v Speaker 3>at the end sixty two. And by the Middle Ages,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sata square was widespread across Europe Asia, minor in

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<v Speaker 3>North Africa. The five words in the square are Latin satar,

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<v Speaker 3>sour or planter, sower or planter. This is supposedly tenant, holds,

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<v Speaker 3>opera works or efforts, and rotas is wheels, and the repo,

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<v Speaker 3>which does not occur elsewhere in Latin. Most scholars treat

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<v Speaker 3>a repo as a proper name or coined term. A

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<v Speaker 3>Commish English rendering is a repo. The sower holds or

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<v Speaker 3>guides the wheels with skill. It was like a chariot

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<v Speaker 3>ride of him. For example, one authoritative source translated translates

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<v Speaker 3>it roughly as a repo.

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<v Speaker 2>The sower guides the wheel with skill. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Another power phrase is farmer. A repo works his wheels

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<v Speaker 3>with his plow. These differ only a nuance. The square

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<v Speaker 3>essentially depicts a farmer, sower and his plow, because opera

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<v Speaker 3>can imply by or with effort. Some read the phrase

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<v Speaker 3>as aditive light construction, not exactly show what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>In any case, a repo remains okay. It may be

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<v Speaker 3>a proper name, perhaps are a mythical plowman, or a

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<v Speaker 3>cryptic insertion needed to make the palindrome work. In practice,

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<v Speaker 3>translations vary, but all revolve around the sower for sator

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<v Speaker 3>tending to plow or wheels again when and where it

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<v Speaker 3>appears the Roman period, first attested in the Roman Empire.

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<v Speaker 3>The earliest known, supposedly Rotas form, was discovered in Pompey, Italy,

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<v Speaker 3>dated before AD sixty two. Additional examples of the Rotas

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<v Speaker 3>form were later found scratched on walls endure europosts in

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<v Speaker 3>Syria around two hundred eight D. Then the square appears

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<v Speaker 3>in Christian contexts. Sixth century Greek script Satyr is preserved

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<v Speaker 3>on an Egyptian clay amulet Berlin Papyrus collection, and the

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<v Speaker 3>bronze sixth century amulet from Asia Minor in Berlin shows

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<v Speaker 3>the square alongside two fish and the word ic hth

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<v Speaker 3>Us symbol for Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly yes, thank you very much, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that medieval Europe Latin satar inscriptions abound, shot

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<v Speaker 3>showing up in medieval Europe around the eighth to fifteenth century.

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<v Speaker 3>They found carved on church walls, castle facades, and monastery manuscripts.

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<v Speaker 3>For one example, the Carolingian Bible I'm saying that right

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<v Speaker 3>from eighty eight twenty two, and many cathedral facades in

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<v Speaker 3>France and Italy bear the state of square. So now

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<v Speaker 3>so remember the oldest examples from Pompeii Buried a d.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy nine and other early Roman sites, confirming the formula

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<v Speaker 3>was used by the mid first century Jesus sorry, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>by the mid first century. These findings predate any documented

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<v Speaker 3>Christian community there, which has major I guess implications of

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<v Speaker 3>problems for the origin theories. The early twentieth century scholars

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<v Speaker 3>tend to see a Christian origin linking the hidden pattern

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<v Speaker 3>nostri cross, but the Pompey evidence doesn't go along with that.

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<v Speaker 3>As one modern summary notes, the Pompeian square, dated fifty

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<v Speaker 3>to seventy eight D, was produced only around forty years

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<v Speaker 3>after the estimated death of Christ, which would make it

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<v Speaker 3>almost like remarkably early instance for a Christian talisman, suggesting

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<v Speaker 3>instead that the original was not likely explicitly Christian. Various

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<v Speaker 3>origin hypotheses have been proposed. Duncan Fishwek in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 3>four argued that a community of Latin speaking Jews and

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<v Speaker 3>late Roman Republic or early Empire devised the square. In

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<v Speaker 3>his view, they clearly encoded the prayer Our Father Paternostra

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<v Speaker 3>and the intersecting words with ao for alpha omega, making

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<v Speaker 3>a hidden arcaustic of the Lord's prayer. Others have suggested

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<v Speaker 3>pagan or magical origins, For example, that Cambridge Library notes

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<v Speaker 3>that some theories favored Jewish, Mythraic or even ancient Greek

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<v Speaker 3>sources over the Christian one. Likewise, Corinium Museum researchers observed

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<v Speaker 3>that the formula's dating and content are too early for Christianity,

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<v Speaker 3>so it may have started as a hidden sign of

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<v Speaker 3>wordplay long before Christians repurposed it. Connections to Mithraism or

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<v Speaker 3>Roman religion have been floating, noting Satyr could denote a

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<v Speaker 3>sky father like Jupiter. Other scholars emphasize the possibility that

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<v Speaker 3>it was originally just a secular magical puzzle, a clever

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<v Speaker 3>palindrome of letters, and only later took on religious symbolism.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another theory. But and again, real quick what it means.

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<v Speaker 3>Through history, the Stata square gathered many mystical interpretations. In

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<v Speaker 3>medieval and later contexts, It was widely apotropaic, treated as

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<v Speaker 3>a charm or incantation. For instance, medieval spell books and

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<v Speaker 3>church inscriptions use it to ward off evil, sickness or disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>One Library notes that from the sixth century onward, the

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<v Speaker 3>status square has held in an important function as a

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<v Speaker 3>magical charm, used to cure sickness, ever disaster, and protect

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<v Speaker 3>against evil spirits. Traditional folklore examples or legion in eleven

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<v Speaker 3>to the fifteen eleventh to fifteenth century English manuscripts, it

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<v Speaker 3>appears among childbirth and charms. In Germany, it was reputed

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<v Speaker 3>to extinguish fires. Even as late as the nineteenth and

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth centuries, Pennsylvania, Dutch folk medicine inscribed it on their

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<v Speaker 3>bread to feed rabies patients. These users treated the square

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<v Speaker 3>as inherently magical, perhaps due to its unusual symmetry and

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<v Speaker 3>the word Satar sower suggesting fertility and protection. On the

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<v Speaker 3>symbolic side, many have seen cosmological or numerological meaning in

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<v Speaker 3>the Satar's pattern. In the square's patterns, Medieval Christians loved

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<v Speaker 3>the hidden pattern nostri cross the alpha and omega a

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<v Speaker 3>left over a leftover implied God as the beginning in

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the universe. Some modern occultists spin it further,

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<v Speaker 3>reading Satar as a creative sower deity, or linking the

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<v Speaker 3>five words or letters to mystical numbers. Or five womb

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<v Speaker 3>of five elements, but these are a speculative Antiquaratan accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been tied to Mythyraic or Judaic symbolism. For example,

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<v Speaker 3>one interpretation treats the square as a mythematical equation standing

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<v Speaker 3>for the Jewish God. Conversely, other note that the Latin

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<v Speaker 3>sata was used for the chief Roman god Jupiter, making

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<v Speaker 3>the Great a hidden paged homage to the Heavenly Father.

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<v Speaker 3>All such readings numerological sums, Egyptian origins, et cetera. At

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom. Scholars still are kind of confused. But those

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<v Speaker 3>are all the theories.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So there's so much to unpack from this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that pops out the most is the

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<v Speaker 1>end in the middle of the cross. Let me go

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<v Speaker 1>back to that n E. T tenet and so you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that cross right there in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>tenet cross, and it's like holding from both sides, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just one thing, it's many things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sat Or really gives that that feel

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<v Speaker 1>to the heavenly Father, because you know, all over the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible they're sewing and reaping, sewing and reping, sowing and reaping.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like the divine sewer who is skillfully

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<v Speaker 1>holding the wheel, and that could be the wheel of

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<v Speaker 1>the plow or the wheel of time and fate. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got a lot of implications from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was something that I repo I read before

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<v Speaker 3>that they tie it to agriculture just because of like

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<v Speaker 3>the wheel, which I do on this stand. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like, well, the chariot isn't worrying, Like the chariot

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<v Speaker 3>isn't plowing the field, and it has a wheel, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like there's other reasons why something

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<v Speaker 3>could have a wheel and be symbolism. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>you had said, it could be time. That's what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do we know it's not agriculture necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the fun part of this is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many different connections that it makes, or it could

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<v Speaker 1>mean all visual connections. So, yeah, I love the symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one of those things. It's you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>keep bringing it up, but the stylized s that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would draw on their their notebooks in school. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that same thing that it has some sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, it has some sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to make, and it kind of has a

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<v Speaker 1>visual puzzle aspect to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but the Rotas is really what brings it all home,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because it's the sewer is the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel, right. The sewer has the beginning and has

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<v Speaker 1>an end. The wheel has no beginning and no end. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So where implies reaper, but rotas is the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you've got all of these little puzzles in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaningful that is not exactly because again it's Latin, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we sort of lose the whole perspective on the Latin. Yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge problem there too, actually really.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, but it still holds, It still holds meaning

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<v Speaker 1>like people can still find meaning in.

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<v Speaker 3>It at this point it's magical, probably from us thinking

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<v Speaker 3>it is, even if it never was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the reason why it's stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>the Christians is the Tenant cross, you know, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>holding the universe in place, you know, it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>four directions, the cardinal points, and it's all held firm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think Ethan would love this symbol because

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<v Speaker 1>it's got that you know, polarity of duality right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the four corners, it's the four sections, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely got a lot of energetic potential in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I love the Stator Square. It's a classic.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had the let me see share my screen,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So I pulled up the ome Phulus. I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it all the time, but I never get

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<v Speaker 1>too deep into it. So this is the navel stone Omfullus.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what Omefhulus means, is the navel of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting about the navel of the world is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not restricted to just the Greeks. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>restricted to just the Native Americans. Pretty much every culture

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<v Speaker 1>on all these different continents has their own idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the navel of the world. Gaya's navel Minnesota comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the word mini gota, and that means the navel of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Right, So the navel stone, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>central pillar of everything in that culture. Everything comes back

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<v Speaker 1>to that. So this stone particularly is the stone that

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<v Speaker 1>they said was used to imitate Zeus when Chronos was

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<v Speaker 1>eating his children. So Zeus was hidden away and this

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<v Speaker 1>stone was wrapped up in a cloth and given to Kronos,

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<v Speaker 1>he ate this instead of Zeus, right, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the Olympians with it. So this was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the plug for the next generation. And then

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<v Speaker 1>once it came loose, then all the Olympians came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Different ways of thinking came out from Kronos.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of the Olympian gods are like the higher

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<v Speaker 1>order brain functions, and the Titans are more like the

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<v Speaker 1>lower the physical aspect of these gods, right, So Kronos

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<v Speaker 1>represents sort of like the last physical boundary of time

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<v Speaker 1>and for us to see him as the end position

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<v Speaker 1>as they you know, look at the seven planets, Saturn

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<v Speaker 1>is on the end. That's the boundary marker. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>the stylized net was used to retrieve this out of

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<v Speaker 1>Kronos's belly, and the stylized net around it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>bees to me, looks like bees crawling on a beehive,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks beehive shaped, right, And the beehive shape

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<v Speaker 1>priestesses who would attend to Delphi were called Melisa and

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<v Speaker 1>they were the you know, honey bee priestesses, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of giving it away what they think of

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<v Speaker 1>Delphi and this center point. It's like kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>homeful of stone. There's lots of recreations and stuff like this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could see there's sort of a bee aspect

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<v Speaker 1>to these, right, And so the olfullest stone was, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good one. You've got the orphic snake wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>around it here, and this one is just more of

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<v Speaker 1>like a general, you know, concrete pillar. But the idea

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<v Speaker 1>at Delphi was that this stone is what the the

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<v Speaker 1>the gods would breathe through into the pythia, into the

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<v Speaker 1>the Python priestess, who would then uh, you know, regurgitate

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<v Speaker 1>these oracles and then have it translated by the priests.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was something interesting going on here because Zeus

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<v Speaker 1>was said to release two eagles, and those two eagles

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<v Speaker 1>flew all the way across the world, and when they

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<v Speaker 1>crossed over, that place was considered the navel of the

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<v Speaker 1>right at Delphi. So this is indicative that the navel

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, for Americans today, I think our owmfulst

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<v Speaker 1>or our Batalist stone, the thing that represents the middle

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't have a ownfulst or a spiritual center

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<v Speaker 1>in ourselves anymore. We have to keep going on crusades

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<v Speaker 1>and these mission trips to this Israel to see all

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<v Speaker 1>of the spiritual happenings there and revisit and become part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But it's not exactly, you know, our spiritual center,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else's spiritual center. So it's it's kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing because they were thinking about the spiritual center

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel. In fact, they have their own batalist stone

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<v Speaker 1>or their central stone, which they call Jacob's pill up right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Jacob was laying on the ground, he had his

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<v Speaker 1>head on a rock, right, and from this position he

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<v Speaker 1>had this dream of the stairway to heaven, and after

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<v Speaker 1>that he became known as Israel. So that was their

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<v Speaker 1>touchstone point which transformed you know, this this tribe into Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>and that comes through in the story of Jacob's Ladder. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's their Batalist stone, and that's on top of Mount Herman,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also interesting if you know the lore. So

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<v Speaker 1>this this Batalist stone idea is where you get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these mounds, right. The mounds are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the navel of the world and they connect the

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<v Speaker 1>sky with the earth. They represent that sort of central

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<v Speaker 1>pillar idea. You've also got the idea that the North

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<v Speaker 1>center of the world, and that magnetic mountain is the

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<v Speaker 1>closest place where you can get to the sky. And

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<v Speaker 1>what's interesting is we have a radiation belt around the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth and the only way to get through the radiation

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<v Speaker 1>belt is through either the North or South poles because

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<v Speaker 1>the radiation belt is thinner there and you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>make it in and out. So it's it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>there is something to this idea of this centrality, this

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<v Speaker 1>axis point right, and so the axis that everything else

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<v Speaker 1>spins around would be kind of summed up in this

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<v Speaker 1>omful of stone. Right, So that is not symbol what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot more than I haven'tknew before.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually got me thinking about that oracle of the Delpha,

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<v Speaker 3>so they we should go that only times that thing

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<v Speaker 3>comes up in like topics and stuff that I've even

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<v Speaker 3>COVID and I've never really gone into it too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, there's there's hypotheses about how it worked. They

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<v Speaker 1>think that it was vulcan panic gases coming up and

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<v Speaker 1>the omeful of stone is actually hollow in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>so they think that the volcanic gases were going up

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<v Speaker 1>through the middle of this stone and then seeping out

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<v Speaker 1>onto the priestess on the tripod. So she's sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the tripod and supposedly these gases are coming up from

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<v Speaker 1>inside the volcano and she's receiving these visions from breathing

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<v Speaker 1>it in. But that's never really been substantiated, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there was something else going on. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was far more spiritual than it was physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were using a lot of drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was much more you know, hypnosis based

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<v Speaker 1>and meditation based, and you know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>put a lot of stock into the drug use that

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<v Speaker 1>the Greeks were undergoing. But I think it was for

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<v Speaker 1>very special occasions. I don't think they were just drugged

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<v Speaker 1>out all the time. I think it had to be

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<v Speaker 1>ritually administered, you know, because all this stuff was magical, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and overuse magic was considered to be out of harmony

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<v Speaker 1>in Greek society. They actually banned black magic in both

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<v Speaker 1>Greek and Roman society. So you know, they're telling us

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<v Speaker 1>that they're full of demons. These are the cultures that

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<v Speaker 1>banned black magic. So go figure that is interesting. But

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<v Speaker 1>outside the Oracle of Delphi, you'll love this part. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a bag full of beans, and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>beans were painted white, and some of these beans were

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<v Speaker 1>painted black. So if you wanted your oracle red and

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to have to wait in line for

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<v Speaker 1>two to three months, you would stand there and put

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<v Speaker 1>and whether it was white or black, you'd get a

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<v Speaker 1>yes or no answer for your question. So if you

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I came across, I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>Empedocles in somebody else. They were like, weren't they like

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<v Speaker 3>against like eating beans?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a uh not. Paracelsusupposed his name, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who came up with the Pythagoras against beans, because it

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<v Speaker 1>had this strange number to it, right, like he was

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<v Speaker 1>against the number that the beans represented or something. But

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<v Speaker 1>they did have the magic eight ball out in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the oracle if he didn't want to have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait forever.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the original magic abel.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, great bag of beans. I should go up

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<v Speaker 1>to people with a bag of beans and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>have a question in your mind now draw being. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's white, that means yes. If it's black, it means no.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been visited by the oracle.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody says, what's the baptism of the dead. What the

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<v Speaker 2>hell is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, well, they have the baptism of the dead with

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<v Speaker 1>the Mormons. The Mormons do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, you know, that's what I was thinking. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's when ye like Heidi, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>other people have told us, like you fucking sitting there,

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<v Speaker 3>like for all the people, right, like even dead, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they would baptize people like Hitler and you know

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<v Speaker 1>all these other people.

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<v Speaker 3>They got those like golden cattle or something in this

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<v Speaker 3>fucking bath where they're doing it or some shit ritual room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the golden cattle bath is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the baptism in general, but the baptism of the dead

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<v Speaker 1>is purely symbolic. So what they would do is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would go there and you would pray for the dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would have the symbolic baptism for them.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea is you've got to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sanctifying the dead so that they can get out of

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<v Speaker 1>hell and you know, be in the afterlife with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if any other cultures do baptisms

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<v Speaker 1>for the dead, but I find it really interesting. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>next time, we're gonna do Bliphon. It's something that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people know in their subconscious mind but they

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<v Speaker 2>So are you Are you reading anything? And no, because

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to at least mention.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Gmail, all right, got a story for me?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I honestly, I'm gonna tell you the truth. One.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a kind of long and a mess and some

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff in there. Because I was reading it

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit as you were going, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this is legit or not. It's

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<v Speaker 3>getting way too like specific on like iparts, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're fuck it with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just be toeing. Honest, I got to read this

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<v Speaker 2>shit before I start reading it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not as I'm not as risky as you

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<v Speaker 3>where you just fucking open up the mail and read it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>What I wanted to do though, real quick, is to

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<v Speaker 3>remind people over this weekend to twenty fifth I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty fifth, twenty sixth, Yeah, something like that. This

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday and Sunday, Arkansas. Uh, there's a paranormal event in

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<v Speaker 2>Little Rock. Check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the show notes. It's two flows, two days.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be packed. I've looked at some of the

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<v Speaker 3>older years there and it's packed. There'll be hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>people there. There'll be food trucks. They'll be ship outside,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll be shipped inside. Saturday at two o'clock. If you want,

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<v Speaker 3>probably worth the ten bucks just alone, you can watch

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of grown.

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<v Speaker 2>Ups make bigfoot calls, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You can catch some bigfoot howls and screeches or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck they do for bigfoot. You can watch that

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute, and there'll be speakers and I will

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<v Speaker 3>have a booth there.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be doing interviews with people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so check it out if you're in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only ten dollars each day unfortunately, but there will

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<v Speaker 3>be like multiple speakers and I think like more than

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<v Speaker 3>one room at a time, so definitely come check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It is supposedly the biggest paranormal event that's annual every

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<v Speaker 3>year in Arkansas, so I think there's even other podcasts

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<v Speaker 3>going to be there and shit too, so check it

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<v Speaker 3>out if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so I've got a pretty short letter from

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Souto.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to hear it, yeah, do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I've got a part too to the dog

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<v Speaker 1>Man story. If you want to hear that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have ten minutes, so whichever one you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this was pretty short, so I'll get into my story.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Stanley Hotel, ess Park, did the weekend package

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<v Speaker 1>had the pleasure of the corner suite allegedly where the

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<v Speaker 1>maid doesn't like unwed totally had wild sex unwed tab

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<v Speaker 1>nothing realized that Dumb and Dumber was filmed there. I

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<v Speaker 1>pointed at the man on the Moon pic unaware I

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<v Speaker 1>was there. So you remember that scene in Dumb and

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<v Speaker 1>Dumber where he's like, we landed on the moon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like forty years after that's where he was at.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the same hotel. They pointed out it too,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of fun. And then it's a my

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<v Speaker 1>girl had a seance upon arrival. Oh that was part one,

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<v Speaker 1>so there will be more.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, that was short. Yeah, the part came with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be a but you

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<v Speaker 2>could have wrote part two in.

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<v Speaker 1>That, right, And you should have included your address because

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<v Speaker 1>I could have just sent that along to Nick and

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<v Speaker 1>you would have gotten something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, m dmo, So send him another email with

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<v Speaker 3>part two. Put your put your thing in there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's even another thing. I mean, listen, I'd rather you

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<v Speaker 3>send this shit to him. But I mean you can

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<v Speaker 3>even DM me if you have to with your address,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're already gonna send one stickers or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 3>I prefer you to send them to Headless because I

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<v Speaker 3>probably won't check.

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<v Speaker 1>It, right, I got So you guys remember Joe Ferguson's

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<v Speaker 1>story about the dog Man. Yes, yeah, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>part two?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So it's funny you mentioned curses around the

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<v Speaker 1>burial mounds my ex stepmother and some of her friends

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, apparently went to the mounds and got some

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<v Speaker 1>things like a vase, a bowl, and some arrowheads. And

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<v Speaker 1>my aunt's husband was part of the Cato Indians tribe,

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<v Speaker 1>so she brought the bowl for him. When he found

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<v Speaker 1>out where they came from, he told my aunt to

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<v Speaker 1>give it back to my stepmother and tell her to

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<v Speaker 1>take it back. But my aunt never did. She said

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<v Speaker 1>it was left in the house somewhere, maybe in the attic,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would makes sense if there was a curse.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in the same county is a place called Glimmer,

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<v Speaker 1>and Glimmer has a road called Cherokee Trace that is

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<v Speaker 1>where the mounds are at. It was also part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trail of Tears where the Native Americans traveled being

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<v Speaker 1>kicked off their land. That area has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>weird things happen. One thing is that Kelly Wilson case.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a high school girl who left work one

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<v Speaker 1>night and was never seen again. The story takes weird

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<v Speaker 1>turns when some kids that were taken to CPS because

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual abuse by their family members tell authorities that

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<v Speaker 1>then chief of police and their family would do satanic

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<v Speaker 1>rituals and that they killed Kelly Wilson. It was right

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<v Speaker 1>in the midst of the Satanic panic in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and early nineties. So how much was true who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is very interesting. Check the case out and

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<v Speaker 1>you will see a lot of familiar things that we

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<v Speaker 1>hear again and again in the conspiracy community. Also, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a replica of stone Hinge in the Woods that you

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<v Speaker 1>could see the video on YouTube by typing Gilmer texas

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<v Speaker 1>stone Hinge. So that was that was the part too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it is cursed.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take anything from burial mounts. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>it's shiny, if it's pretty, don't take them.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're with someone you don't like, tell them to take.

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<v Speaker 1>It right right, which is pretty nasty, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know if it's going to end up.

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<v Speaker 3>In your car, right, that's right, man. They put it

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<v Speaker 3>in their pocket, this will get it into your car.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't know this, but we're actually living on top

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<v Speaker 1>of an Indian burial ground. It's called America. So definitely

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<v Speaker 1>keep your hat on your shoulders out there people. But

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a another Headless's magical mailbag, and definitely

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<v Speaker 1>visit us next time. I've got a show on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>with Ethan and Ricardo called the trialogues last week was

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<v Speaker 1>lit We were talking about exile. Why is exile not legal?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't we strip people of their citizenship and get

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<v Speaker 1>them the fuck out of the country. Well, the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court says that we're not allowed to do that because

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<v Speaker 1>that's cruel and unusual. But we've got murderers on death

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<v Speaker 1>row that are about to be killed, and you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me exiling them and getting them out of the country

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<v Speaker 1>is a worse fate than killing them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good point there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's strange, but I think there's something to this, like

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want us to be able to exile people

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<v Speaker 1>because if we do, the first thing we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try and do is exile the elites strip them of

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<v Speaker 1>their property. I think that happened a lot back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, so they don't want that to happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is like their insurance policy, no exile,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So definitely check that out. And on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got another Alchemy show coming up. I've got I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go over what I'm getting for supplies. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>can join me if you want to go step by

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<v Speaker 1>step and how to make Spajerics. You may think they're

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<v Speaker 1>called spagricks, but they're called Spajirics. And I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that until I had somebody else pronounce it out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you read all these words in these

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<v Speaker 1>books and you have no idea how they're pronounced. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>People.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying Gyro my whole life when it's Giro,

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in a Gyro. Greek people out there was

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<v Speaker 3>calling it a Gyro. What the's wrong with them?

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, Greeks are very apt to, you know, changing

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<v Speaker 1>their own culture. If other people are doing things to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say that to Long Island Italians, they try to blend in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh real quick too, before you wrap it up and

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<v Speaker 3>just remind people about five to ten minutes, we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>going live on the occul Rejects and you'll be streaming

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<v Speaker 3>it out on here anyway. So yeah, we'll be going

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<v Speaker 3>live with Prometheus Lens covering John Wilkes killer, John Wilkes

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<v Speaker 3>Boots killer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, John Wilkes Booth was the killer. Yeah he

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<v Speaker 2>was the killer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah him and uh yeah him and like some weird

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<v Speaker 3>story where like there's some weird shit about this guy. Uh, technically,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they have actually caught him in his

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<v Speaker 3>bullshit story, Like the story about everything is very shady,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he has other connections that Prometheus is

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about. It should be pretty, pretty fun,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always very conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys joined us to get next time. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. The further you dig, the more conspiracies you see.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see it again next time later
