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<v Speaker 1>And welcome, ladies and gentlemen to one more episode of Ascend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have my wonderful, marvelous, amazing co host, Seafood

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<v Speaker 1>car Romaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, thank you for that amazing introduction, normally the other

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<v Speaker 2>way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's why I wanted to open today, guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to give you guys a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>different swing today. Okay, so today we're talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>is our.

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<v Speaker 2>Top creating an intentional life and career. And we have

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<v Speaker 2>a very good friend. He's amazing, super positive, smart young guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I met him many years ago and I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so impressed with how he carries himself in the life

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<v Speaker 2>that he's created for himself. His name is Giovanni Ramerez

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<v Speaker 2>and Giovanni, welcome to Ascend.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you for having me on. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're excited to have you here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely excited too, guys, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm loving the white, by the way, love it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, light colors are just they just bring energy.

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<v Speaker 1>In yes, positivity right, and speaking about good energy, the

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<v Speaker 1>minute you walked in the room, there was this good energy.

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<v Speaker 4>I love your vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very positive. Tell us a little bit about you

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<v Speaker 1>as a person who is Giovanni.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, thank you for asking that, and again a

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure to be here with you both. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>would say there is a book that changed my life,

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<v Speaker 3>and that book is The Celestine Prophecy. In that book,

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<v Speaker 3>my father brought it home, he was reading it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just found it, and I was thirteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>And this book created the person that you see before you,

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<v Speaker 3>a person that understands that we're all energy, that there

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<v Speaker 3>are power struggles that we need to uplift each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's one of the ways that you could build

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<v Speaker 3>a really beautiful life. So I think The Celestine Prophecy

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<v Speaker 3>really captures the kind of person that I am today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great book. Actually, I still have a copy

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, I need to reread it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were introduced to this early on? How old

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<v Speaker 1>were you?

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<v Speaker 3>I was around thirteen years old? Wow, yes, And I

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<v Speaker 3>just found I found it, I think laying on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor if I remember correctly, and I just got curious.

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<v Speaker 3>And he does not always kill the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So were you your parents very philosophical or spiritual? Like

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<v Speaker 2>how are you? How is how is it that your

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<v Speaker 2>dad was reading it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, A good question. My father actually, he was

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<v Speaker 3>an avid reader and he would take us to the

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<v Speaker 3>library every single week. We would get books, and my

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<v Speaker 3>sister and I would you would find us reading upside

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<v Speaker 3>down in our couch, if you remember, like you would

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<v Speaker 3>build a fort and we would read upside down in

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<v Speaker 3>our couch. And I read countless of books growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>which is I think, if you want to build wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>and children, have them read stories, fiction or nonfiction. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that really was a key component of coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't say my parents were as wise. My

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<v Speaker 3>mom was definitely more spiritual. But my father has the

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<v Speaker 3>wisdom to take me to the library every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>They say readers are.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaders, that's right, literally, and we have a leader here

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<v Speaker 1>with us. That's amazing. So when you talk about personal

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<v Speaker 1>development and growth, your careers all about that, right, How

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<v Speaker 1>did you get introduced to that world, the coaching, the positivity,

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<v Speaker 1>the personal development and everything you bring to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? So innately people just wanted to follow me initially,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be friends groups, some way, somehow I would

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<v Speaker 3>become the hey, what does GEO think? And I, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this, Well, I think he's right, And then

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<v Speaker 3>they would follow me, right, But I think if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go back, is when I started breakdancing. I

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<v Speaker 3>was a breakdancer and I had my own dance crew.

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<v Speaker 3>But I started breakdancing when I saw a nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 3>movie and I said, that looks cool. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>were the resurgence of hip hop old school like in

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<v Speaker 3>the mid nineties late nineties, and I said, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>one around to teach me that. I'm going to teach

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<v Speaker 3>it to myself. And then I found like minded people eventually,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I built an a crew and we used

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<v Speaker 3>to practice at my house and I built the studio

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where my leadership skills really began. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was a better manager of the crew than a dancer,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can still throw down.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that, and also a breakdancer. Yes, yes, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really awesome. Is that where you met Eddie?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So we have a CFO and I we have

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<v Speaker 3>a common friend named Eddie who is very, very successful

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<v Speaker 3>and amazing dancer, and it's one of the key components

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<v Speaker 3>of why I am in this podcast here today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So can you tell us about your experience with

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<v Speaker 2>multi level marketing and how that led to greater success

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<v Speaker 2>for you. What you learned from that is there a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people look at multi level marketing and don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize there's some powerful teachings and powerful tools to really

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<v Speaker 2>help people grow and be intentional with their life and career. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, multi level marketing, you know, there's it has a

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<v Speaker 3>long history, but I think it really teaches you how

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<v Speaker 3>to be an entrepreneur, and it really does teach you

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<v Speaker 3>how to be a leader, right because here you are

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<v Speaker 3>you're incentivized people, not by force, but by the way

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<v Speaker 3>you're communicating to them by reminding them of the bigger picture.

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<v Speaker 3>And So, whether you stick in multi level or not,

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<v Speaker 3>I decided to take my career in a different path.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those leadership skills really stick with you and

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<v Speaker 3>you become a much better person and a person that

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<v Speaker 3>can communicate effectively as well, because you're doing selling, team

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<v Speaker 3>management and also organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, what I love about multi level marketing is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you have to help somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>In order to help yourself. That's right, very true.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's success becomes your own success. So you're invested in

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to see other people succeed, and that's how it

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<v Speaker 1>should be right. Yeah, that's the beauty of it. The

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<v Speaker 1>more you succeed, I succeed with you, so I want you.

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<v Speaker 3>To that's very true. Yeah, it's a win win. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it's called the I call it the

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<v Speaker 3>latter effect, right where you pull one person up, they

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<v Speaker 3>may go higher than you and they help pull you

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<v Speaker 3>up to the next day step.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely, So what inspired you to write The Perfect Interview?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So The Perfect Interview is the culmination of over

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years of career coaching entry level and mid level professionals.

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<v Speaker 3>And I called it your perfect interview because it's really

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<v Speaker 3>about you the person. You don't have to be the

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<v Speaker 3>perfect interviewer, but if you have a picture of you

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<v Speaker 3>being a better person, a better communicator, a better way

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<v Speaker 3>to show up for yourself, then it's your perfect interview.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very purposely named for yours, not the perfect Interview.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of that, because I've been interviewing, I've had

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<v Speaker 3>a career in finance and different operations, different roles in

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<v Speaker 3>operations and retail and finance companies. Overall, what I have

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<v Speaker 3>found is that you want to if you do have

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<v Speaker 3>like the perfect interview, you will interview yourself. You will

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<v Speaker 3>get into a job that you yourself don't even want, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the role might not be for you. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>start working on this role and you're like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not for me. That's because you probably did a

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<v Speaker 3>perfect interview, not focusing on like is this really for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I just answering to get the question right? Or

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<v Speaker 3>am I answering this truthfully? Because so that the employer

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<v Speaker 3>can also identify, Hey, this is probably not for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a big, big component.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a big difference, like people when they hire

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody that just you know, does a good job

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they are specifically good in.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, It's important.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're saying is there's a difference between you doing

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<v Speaker 4>Want to hear, yes, versus you actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling them what your strengths are and where you would

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<v Speaker 1>fit in better exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. And there's a good way to interview when

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<v Speaker 3>you if you walk into the interview empowered, right, just

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that yes, this is a situation where you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the power. They're asking all the questions by far

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<v Speaker 3>and large, but you need to walk in there saying

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<v Speaker 3>I need to really know if this is where I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to put the biggest chunk of my time, the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest chunk of my day. So walking in there with

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<v Speaker 3>that confidence that you're also interviewing them, you're also observing them,

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<v Speaker 3>You're also watching their mannerisms that will give you a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of confidence and assertiveness that that also will transcend

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<v Speaker 3>across the desk and hopefully with that handshake.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's powerful, awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was your observation, Like, how did you get

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<v Speaker 2>into career coaching? What was your observation? I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what people need this? Yeah, there's something missing here

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<v Speaker 2>and I have the solution. Yeah, tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful, thank you for asking that. I fell in love

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<v Speaker 3>with this. I started just you might laugh at this.

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<v Speaker 3>I started with my ex girlfriends, So my girlfriends back then,

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<v Speaker 3>girlfriends back then, and it's like, oh, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>get a new job, So like, okay, yeah, let me

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<v Speaker 3>write your resume right, and they would go and get

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<v Speaker 3>a new job, or like I feel unconfident, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to negotiate my salary with my boss. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I would give them techniques and they would go

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<v Speaker 3>and get success. And then I have this interview that

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<v Speaker 3>I need to prepare for and I had not realizing

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<v Speaker 3>that I had a certain skill set. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and two, when the tech bubble collapsed like the pre

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<v Speaker 3>the recession right that we had in two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 3>I went out after college and went on five interviews

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<v Speaker 3>and got five different job offers when all my friends

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<v Speaker 3>were struggling to get work, and I just took it

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<v Speaker 3>for granted. About a few many years later, I interviewed

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<v Speaker 3>for a very large hedge fund and I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to get in the door and I said, holy smokes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing something pretty good here. I need to study it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I reflected on what I was doing in the

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<v Speaker 3>interview process and I went and if you read a few,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, professional development career books, and I said, holy smokes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing exactly what they're doing saying naturally, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going further. There's an extra layer that I've uncovered. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I said, SEAFO, people need this.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to inquire.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what were you doing right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like you know, just as a as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people come to me and they're talking to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's so many people who've lost their jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>they're sending resume in they're not hearing anything. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>on interviews, they're not getting the job. What's the secret, sauce?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I want to drop some value today. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So with a resume, I think of it as going fishing. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>If you're going fishing, how do you catch the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>some good bait, they're gonna take it and there. And

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<v Speaker 3>nowadays recruiters they're seeing hundreds of resumes, right, hundreds, Which

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the things I say to people when

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<v Speaker 3>is just to stop. They're going through that stash. Imagine

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<v Speaker 3>you're the guys just going paper by paper and they

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<v Speaker 3>A little that's all you need, enough, just enough to say,

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<v Speaker 2>What are some things they need to have in there? Though? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now I've got their attention. But you know, attention

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<v Speaker 2>is what thirty seconds? It's very true, right, So now

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<v Speaker 2>what what else has to be in there?

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<v Speaker 3>totally do. I want who is ever listening to go

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<v Speaker 3>out and do this. And the one main component is

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<v Speaker 3>that or three components as individuals list their responsibilities, but

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<v Speaker 3>not these three items, their highlights, their achievements, and their recognition,

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<v Speaker 3>which is hard for us to do. We're so hard

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<v Speaker 3>on ourselves right that when we're writing a resume, we

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<v Speaker 3>forget how amazing, how special. We forget all the amazing

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<v Speaker 3>things we've done, right, which is why you want to

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<v Speaker 3>work with a coach or with someone else and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>for companies if you have, if it's your first job,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about your high school achievements, where your volunteer volunteership,

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<v Speaker 3>and you put those up there and then list your

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<v Speaker 3>now you reel them in with the achievements, highlights and recognition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we can we do this? Can we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like? Can you we want to walk one of

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, actually speak for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so that I want people, because I want our

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<v Speaker 2>watching somebody go through the process, you go, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. That's what he means, right, Like yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>a world lesson versus a word lesson.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Okay, yeah, yeah, so let's you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to go really, you know, just kind of touch

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<v Speaker 2>me if you were if I were writing a resume? Right? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I need some pizzazz up top. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>a logo, yep, So so I put my little logo there. Yes, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>Now what.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, beautiful, So need so that we don't spend too

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<v Speaker 3>much time on it, I'm going to make it really quick.

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<v Speaker 3>So seafood m hm, what name one responsibility that you have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, managing the martial arts.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know you're you're there, You're the instructor, instructor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the owner of the academy. I oversee training the

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<v Speaker 2>instructors and operations, managing paying the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bills, beautiful, okay, responsibilities right, marketing operation, and you would

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<v Speaker 3>say that every single martial arts owner would have those

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<v Speaker 3>same responsibilities, right, yes, okay. So now let's jump to

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<v Speaker 3>the top to our achievements, Highlights and recognition section. So,

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<v Speaker 3>how many of your students have been recognized for excellence

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<v Speaker 3>in the field of martial arts?

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<v Speaker 4>Long list?

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<v Speaker 2>Long list?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you say it's over two hundred or fifty or

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<v Speaker 2>At least two hundred, okay, at least two hundred. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go to NASA. I have students who are in

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<v Speaker 2>elite athletes and sports exactly. I have students that are

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<v Speaker 2>working for government agency. Yes, so that's the bullet So

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<v Speaker 2>and I have students all over the world. Yeah, successfully,

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<v Speaker 2>have coached over two hundred elite athletes have gone on

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<v Speaker 2>to have successful careers due to their march the instructional

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<v Speaker 2>practice of a sea for ruling, and that's that alone

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<v Speaker 2>will get you that next contract an opportunity exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know we could go super.

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<v Speaker 2>What about skills, don't I have to talk about my

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<v Speaker 2>skill as a manager is a.

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<v Speaker 3>So that gets me to another section. So the resume.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a theory behind the resume. The resume should

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<v Speaker 3>do all the selling, and that's what we forget. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people write a resume as telling. You're just

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<v Speaker 3>telling your resume is the selling point. Should do all

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<v Speaker 3>the selling so that when you walk in, they're already sold.

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<v Speaker 3>They just want to figure out if you're a real

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<v Speaker 3>person person sorry, and if you're a culture fit and

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<v Speaker 3>that's you know, obviously we'll talk about interviewing, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to give them a little bit of hint

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<v Speaker 3>of your personality, what I do is I have my

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<v Speaker 3>clients take a personality test figure out their strengths and weaknesses,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's that's going to tie in with the interviewing.

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<v Speaker 3>Really cool and then what you're gonna do if you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna set expectations, right, So what is satisfaction when whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you expect shows up at the door, right? Or if

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<v Speaker 3>it's even better, right, that's ultimately even better satisfaction, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it exceeds right. So if you have your true core

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<v Speaker 3>strengths or personality traits, they're going to expect a certain person, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And they already bought you because you have this amazing resume.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, you walk in the door and the person

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<v Speaker 3>that they pictured is the person that walks in. You're

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<v Speaker 3>already two four or five steps ahead of all the

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<v Speaker 3>other candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>I guaran you really look the part. You're acting the part, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are the party. You are the exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they visualized you as a certain person and you

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<v Speaker 3>walked in and they said, this is the guy we

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a question a lot of people I've

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<v Speaker 1>read in many places about resumes. It it should be

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<v Speaker 1>one page. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>That's no longer true. Unfortunately, after the two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>eight two thousand and nine collapse, people just started having

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<v Speaker 3>jobs and then you know, left that job because that

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<v Speaker 3>went bankrupt, or this job clothes, and then with COVID,

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<v Speaker 3>we already know how the world really shuffled. So I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, if you're coming out of college, you want

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<v Speaker 3>a one page resume. If you have about two or

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<v Speaker 3>three years career, you can have a two page resume.

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<v Speaker 3>Own resume is longer than that, or really for the

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<v Speaker 3>higher up when you have like really big projects that

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<v Speaker 3>you've worked on. So I would say two pages if

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<v Speaker 3>you've been in the workforce and one page for entry level.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting. Would you recommend for people to add

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<v Speaker 1>a picture on it and things like that?

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<v Speaker 3>So if you are international, it's almost a given that

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<v Speaker 3>you have to add a picture. That's what I found, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're applying for somewhere in the Philippines or Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have a picture as part of the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>In America, we don't yet have that, and thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want anyone really judging you from the

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<v Speaker 3>way you look, because that's not really where your skill

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<v Speaker 3>set is. If you're preparing like a CV or a

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<v Speaker 3>media one sheet, which is a little bit different where

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be a speaker or for for maybe

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<v Speaker 3>being on entertainment or media, then you might want to

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what about LinkedIn? I mean a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>discover talent on LinkedIn, they searched that. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how many people hit my profile up on a

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, LinkedIn is a great platform, particularly if you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>for more sophisticated jobs. Yeah, so I would say LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 3>is a really good source, particularly if you have a

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<v Speaker 3>four year degree. If you don't have a four year degree,

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<v Speaker 3>you might want to go to Indeed, which aggregates all

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<v Speaker 3>the jobs in the workforce. So indeed, if you're a professional,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely chopping down your career, and if you are don't

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. You're probably going to ask the same question

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask. But I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that's actually very true, seafoo, And the reason being

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<v Speaker 3>is that the marketplace has changed and they've been fighting

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<v Speaker 3>over employees. Right. You know, with a good economy, you're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out you're just trying to get someone

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<v Speaker 3>the economy cools a little bit, then we're right back

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<v Speaker 3>into fighting this very narrow funnel. Right, So it is

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<v Speaker 3>dependent on the economy. So we have hired individuals with

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<v Speaker 3>no degrees in our company. A caveat to this rule

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<v Speaker 3>or this advice that I'm that I'm saying is if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to break barriers or break rules, go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're you can create your own opportunities. So

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<v Speaker 3>thin that if you're fresh on a high school, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>shoot your shot at the CEO. You never know what's

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<v Speaker 1>I like, what the what is the worst? They can say?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>No, right, and we all know no, is it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, is there such thing as overqualified?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? There is? Unfortunately there is. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 3>great risk. So let's let's talk on the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of the grass. Right, the corporation has a great risk

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<v Speaker 3>of spending a lot of time training you when you

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<v Speaker 3>yourself say this job is beneath me, or my skill

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<v Speaker 3>sets are greater than this, right, And so there is

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<v Speaker 3>such a thing as being overqualified. But if you are

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<v Speaker 3>overqualified and you do want to take take a let's

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<v Speaker 3>say you want to cool down your career. Right, Let's

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<v Speaker 3>say you you want to be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>part time, or you want a job that's less intense,

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<v Speaker 3>and you do want to take a step down or

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<v Speaker 3>position or two down. You are able to qualify into those,

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<v Speaker 3>but you just have to reassure or the employer that

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<v Speaker 3>this is very purposeful and that you're just not doing

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<v Speaker 3>it to get a new paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And is there a way that that could be done,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not having to share as many positions.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe so right now, there is so much data on

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<v Speaker 3>individuals that you can find out a little bit too much.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can tell you that because I do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of background searches for my job, and the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of data that I can get on an individual is

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<v Speaker 3>quite scary. So withholding positions might come to bite you

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<v Speaker 3>if they get a service that has a complete history

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<v Speaker 3>of where you've gotten a W two or a ten

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine from ten ninety nine's are hard to figure out,

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<v Speaker 3>but W two's are a little bit easier, So just

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<v Speaker 3>be careful if you're strategically trying to withhold a certain position. However,

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<v Speaker 3>if you just got a new job and you've been

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<v Speaker 3>there for two or three weeks and you're like, I'm out,

435
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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this place, and you go find another employer.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, withhold that job that you had now

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<v Speaker 3>and just make pretendant never existed.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very interesting, interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now I have a big question social media and

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<v Speaker 1>job searching.

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<v Speaker 3>Turn it off. Please turn it off. Employers are very judgy,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as they should be. You're hiring a person.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to understand where their mindset is, mindset is

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<v Speaker 3>in and you know, not social media. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of history there, right. You hear about people becoming

446
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<v Speaker 3>successful and then someone digs up a tweet and then

447
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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden the CEO is, you know, reprimanded

448
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<v Speaker 3>in the corner. And so if you're searching job searching,

449
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<v Speaker 3>turn off your social media. Hype up that LinkedIn like

450
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<v Speaker 3>go in there, make it all pretty entrepreneurs stuff or

451
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<v Speaker 3>spirational stuff, career minded stuff, smart articles. Turn that up

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<v Speaker 3>and turn all your social media off unless it's very cured.

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<v Speaker 3>If you if you really have been strategic about the

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<v Speaker 3>type of person you're promoting out there, then you can

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<v Speaker 3>keep it all on. But by far largs. Turn it

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<v Speaker 3>off as soon as you get the job. They're already

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<v Speaker 3>investing in, turn it all out back in. Just don't

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<v Speaker 3>go friending your boss so quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, that's a that's a good question question.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, where do you draw the line?

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<v Speaker 1>Because one thing that I have seen, to be quite honest,

462
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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of era, is that there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>blurred line between personal and professional, right, Yeah, your life

464
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<v Speaker 1>out there. It used to be before that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how somebody's house looked. You just knew, right, yes,

466
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<v Speaker 1>but now you know everything. You know they're insides of

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<v Speaker 1>their house, their kids, their personal life. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a little, I don't know, weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is a little weird. Be very strategic about

470
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<v Speaker 3>who you add as a friend from work. The bigger

471
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<v Speaker 3>the company, the more bureaucracy, the more politics, and so

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<v Speaker 3>just be very strategic and uh and just careful mindful

473
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<v Speaker 3>is really the way to be and foster great relationships

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<v Speaker 3>and uh and buffer arts. Don't be too judgmental on

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<v Speaker 3>each other. You can also be misjudging your colleague because

476
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<v Speaker 3>they posted X, right, and so at the end of

477
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<v Speaker 3>the day, just if it's going to cause you concern,

478
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<v Speaker 3>don't do it. And I think that's a good rule

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<v Speaker 3>to follow.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's move to the interview. We've gotten in

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<v Speaker 2>the door. I handed them a great resume. My LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 2>is tight, my social media is off. I walk in

484
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<v Speaker 2>the door, I sit in my chair. What do I do? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So, see, if you mentioned earlier about like attention spans, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very very people are facal. They're even more facal now.

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<v Speaker 3>They used to be like the attention span with like

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<v Speaker 3>I think sixteen between twenty and sixteen, sixteen and twenty seconds,

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<v Speaker 3>and now it's less than that because social media and

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<v Speaker 3>the way it works. Yeah, so, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>correct on that. And so brevity is the key. I

492
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<v Speaker 3>guarantee you this. Who's ever listening? Brevity is the key.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty second answers, thirty second answers, no more than forty five.

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<v Speaker 3>The only question I allow my clients to go further

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<v Speaker 3>than that is the tell me about yourself, because they're

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<v Speaker 3>not yet tired of you yet. And even that question,

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<v Speaker 3>I say, you better stay within a minute, okay, if

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<v Speaker 3>you can. If Coca Cola can make us cry, because

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<v Speaker 3>the polar Bear picked up the Coca Cola in the

500
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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl commercial. Commercials can make us feel and make

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<v Speaker 3>us get excited about a product or an event. If

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<v Speaker 3>they can do that within thirty seconds, then so can you.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you have to role play storytelling with them?

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<v Speaker 2>With your clients, like how to tell a good story?

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<v Speaker 2>Like somebody asks you, like, so tell us about yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Like yes, okay, I'm going to drop the best value

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<v Speaker 3>on this one. Okay, because this is where everybody I

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe, I just witness.

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<v Speaker 2>Also stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I love it so good question, and

511
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<v Speaker 3>so everybody sticks their foot in their mouth and tell

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<v Speaker 3>me about yourself. I've made this mistake before. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you say, oh, do you want personal or do you

514
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<v Speaker 3>want professional? Duh, it's professional. You're in a professional setting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're going to talk about your professional life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's can't be no more than a minute. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>yet tired of you. Okay, they're gonna get tired of

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<v Speaker 3>you eventually, but it can't be no more than a

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<v Speaker 3>minute thirty to forty five seconds. So here's the magic formula.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to write this down, it's thirty percent education.

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<v Speaker 3>So your answer should have thirty percent, education, thirty percent professional,

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<v Speaker 3>So your career experience thirty percent, your personality traits or strengths,

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<v Speaker 3>or your attributes. And the last piece is just let

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<v Speaker 3>them know that you're excited or that you've been looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to this, and that's how you can end off

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<v Speaker 3>that question. So my education, Yeah, I'm happy to be here,

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<v Speaker 3>my education and blah blah blah blah blah. And with that,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been able to do my career and I've been

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<v Speaker 3>able to do one two three x yz. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>my professional attributes are one two three x y Z.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm super excited. I love this position. It

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<v Speaker 3>really spoke to me the responsibility to match what I've

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<v Speaker 3>done before. I can't wait to answer all your questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Magic formula thirty thirty thirty ten percent.

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<v Speaker 4>You're hied awesome, Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>How much do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Is this is part of your own formula, that

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<v Speaker 2>you've created, something that you've found work And is this

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<v Speaker 2>what makes your book different from other books out there

540
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<v Speaker 2>on interviewing and jobs?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say so yes, this was totally created by

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<v Speaker 3>me just because I saw so many clients struggling where

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<v Speaker 3>how do we how do you know I don't want

544
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<v Speaker 3>to say this term, but basically they would over they

545
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<v Speaker 3>would just talk way too much. And then what happens

546
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<v Speaker 3>to the interviewer especially that's the first question, they're going

547
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<v Speaker 3>to tune you out. If they tuned you out on

548
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<v Speaker 3>the first question, you're in trouble. You know, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a big hill to climb after that. So, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the formula that I came up with to help

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<v Speaker 3>my clients understand where to cut things off.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the misconceptions that you often see

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<v Speaker 1>and the mistakes that you see that people make.

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<v Speaker 3>Often, Yeah, the mistakes, So there's quite a few we

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<v Speaker 3>spoke about over talking. The next component is what Seafood mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like proper wory telling. And so storytelling is

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<v Speaker 3>for what we call behavioral questions. So behavioral questions require

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<v Speaker 3>an example of how you've been in the past, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know where investments they put that you know,

560
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<v Speaker 3>past results don't aren't future expectations. With interviews, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your answers are hope what they're saying that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>reflect their future performance, right, so the inverse of investing,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak, and so proper storytelling is key, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why. There's an algorithm that exists out there that

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<v Speaker 3>I had to learn that I was doing naturally, that

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<v Speaker 3>I used to help people tell a proper story. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I add an extra layer, which I call the

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<v Speaker 3>Giovanni factor.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to inquire in your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome guys love it, and so okay. The the algorithm,

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<v Speaker 3>the structure is called Star. The star gives you a

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<v Speaker 3>great method to tell a story. So the way you

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<v Speaker 3>answer the question is with starting with the situation, then

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<v Speaker 3>you go to the target right. Star is an acronym

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<v Speaker 3>situation target action results. That star situation target action results.

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<v Speaker 3>You can tell a really nice story in there, starting

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<v Speaker 3>from how things were and then the results is how

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<v Speaker 3>they were after right. You can use that to tell

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<v Speaker 3>a negative a positive answer, like you've improved something or

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<v Speaker 3>you've learned a lesson. Right, here's where I was before

581
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<v Speaker 3>I made this mistake, and here's where I am after right.

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<v Speaker 3>So that gives someone a really concise way of structure

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<v Speaker 3>and their answers. Later on, you can kind of play

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<v Speaker 3>around with like target and action where you put the steps,

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<v Speaker 3>but that gives them at least a framework. But what

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<v Speaker 3>I realized is the star structure missed a component in storytelling,

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<v Speaker 3>which is emotional engagement. Right. So let's take a little

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<v Speaker 3>like I was practicing in the car, and let's say

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<v Speaker 3>he went to the park. Right, He went to the park.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a simple statement. So he loved going to the park.

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<v Speaker 3>He loved going to the park.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you start to visualize someone that's really, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>excited about going to the park. He loved going to

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<v Speaker 3>the park and found it refreshing.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing the person's going to the park,

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<v Speaker 3>but now you get a picture of someone that is loving,

599
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<v Speaker 3>maybe even kind and soft, and he finds the park refreshing. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you pepper your storytelling with these emotional key components,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're gonna do is you're gonna get emotional engagement.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's working because I see some smiles.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can't see the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think so with this structure and layering

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<v Speaker 3>this emotional component, you really start to connect with the audience, right,

607
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 3>they start to connect with you. Right. So the theory

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<v Speaker 3>behind my interview coaching is that once you engage them emotionally,

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<v Speaker 3>it stops being an interview and it becomes a relationship. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe you're not the best qualified, maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the best resume, maybe you don't have the best background,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you're out of high school. And really this is

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<v Speaker 3>a position for an associates or bachelor's degree. Right, But

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<v Speaker 3>you've connected. They can walk away and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I really like him. Let's give him or her a chance, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really where you want to walk away from. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>want to walk away with.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So now I've gotten opportunity. I've made it through

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<v Speaker 2>the front door, and they call me back for a

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<v Speaker 2>second interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, how exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I need more skills, right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, just go ahead and do the same thing

624
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<v Speaker 3>you did before. Exactly, Just do the same thing you

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<v Speaker 3>did before. If it worked, If it worked the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll get them the second time, and yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 3>third and the fourth, and so and again. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>answering this for your perfect interview. If you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>the job, it's very likely that they identified that this

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<v Speaker 3>probably wasn't for you. If you're an extrovert in the

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<v Speaker 3>primary component of this job is introverted work, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be miserable there, and vice versa. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you get to the fourth interview and you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>directly to the CEO, there might be a candidate that's

635
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<v Speaker 3>a better fit for that role, So don't let it

636
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<v Speaker 3>speak volumes about you. They probably did you a favor

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<v Speaker 3>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you then recommend for you to maybe step up

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<v Speaker 1>and say, if you have any other positions that may

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<v Speaker 1>be more suitable for me, to just yep me in

641
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<v Speaker 1>mind or.

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<v Speaker 4>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that because that's called creating opportunities, right, which

644
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<v Speaker 3>is s talked about earlier.

645
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<v Speaker 4>So show's leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you know one thing I say, if you got

647
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<v Speaker 3>if you got denied the job, but you made it

648
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>to the future rounds, but you really like that job.

649
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<v Speaker 3>Touch base three months later, you know, maybe a new

650
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 3>position opened up. They're not going to go back to

651
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<v Speaker 3>their old resumes. Just that's just because the employees don't

652
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>work like that. And you might have been the second

653
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<v Speaker 3>one that they considered. Maybe this next person is failing

654
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 3>and they're like that other guy probably would have been better,

655
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 3>and you could create an opportunity like that as well. Yeah,

656
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 3>don't be afraid to go back to old employers or

657
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 3>well old employers, maybe you don't want to go back to,

658
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 3>But don't be afraid to go back to someone that

659
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 3>you've interviewed for if you really like that job, it'll show,

660
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 3>it'll show a lot of effort.

661
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<v Speaker 1>That you actually want that position, and it does speak

662
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<v Speaker 1>volumes about you, right, very reaching out again, Yes, very

663
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<v Speaker 1>very so.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I've noticed about your process is

665
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<v Speaker 2>that it instills the level of confidence in people. Can

666
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<v Speaker 2>you tell us about some of the people you've coached.

667
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<v Speaker 2>I don't. You don't need to mention names, yes, but

668
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<v Speaker 2>how your process is really instilled that confidence and they

669
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<v Speaker 2>were successful at it because of it.

670
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, recently, at the height of being very busy

671
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 3>at work and really saying I'm not going to take

672
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<v Speaker 3>any clients personally, I was referred a gentleman by a

673
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 3>good friend named Rob. And what he failed to mention

674
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 3>is this gentleman stuttered. And so when I get on

675
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 3>the phone with a young man and he tells me

676
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<v Speaker 3>he's been unemployed for something like six to nine months

677
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 3>and he used to work for I think like grub

678
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<v Speaker 3>Hub or something doing operations. But he stutters, and I

679
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 3>hear it, and I'm like, oh, this is going to

680
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<v Speaker 3>be a challenge. I've never had a person that has

681
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<v Speaker 3>a speech impairment or disability. So, my good heart, I

682
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 3>can't say no even the I'm like overworking myself already,

683
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 3>and I worked for the I said to myself, GEO,

684
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<v Speaker 3>you've been wanting to write a book for a very

685
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<v Speaker 3>long time, and if you can get this job, this

686
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 3>gentleman a job within four weeks, you deserve to write

687
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 3>your book. You need to write that book, GEO, Like,

688
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 3>stop getting so busy all the time, and so yes.

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<v Speaker 3>On the third week, this gentleman had at least two

690
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 3>job offers and he ended up taking one. And I

691
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 3>was so ecstatic. I remember I was in my office

692
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 3>and I stood up and yelled in not a nice word,

693
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<v Speaker 3>but a nice word when you're excited. Yeah, And and

694
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<v Speaker 3>my colleagues were like, what are you talking about?

695
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<v Speaker 1>You?

696
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, this guy got a job, and I

697
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 3>need to write my book. And that became your perfect interview.

698
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<v Speaker 4>Awful story.

699
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<v Speaker 3>That's one example. Yes, and I've had like criminals that

700
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>had criminal history and I've been able to get them

701
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 3>back into the workforce, and moms that were stay at

702
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 3>home moms didn't know how to market themselves, and we

703
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 3>turned the mom job into a full blown resume, not

704
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 3>because it is because it is. It is that plus

705
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 3>and so so yeah, yeah, there's many, many ways to

706
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<v Speaker 3>be creative and really get yourself, you know, get the

707
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<v Speaker 3>foot in the door. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've been through a lot in life. You've faced

709
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 2>many obstacles and many challenges, and obviously you're helping other

710
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<v Speaker 2>people overcome obstacles and challenges as well. How does your

711
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<v Speaker 2>experiences inform you today with overcoming obstacles and how does

712
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>that inform your coaching to help others overcome obstacles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so a very good question. So I've I've been

714
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 3>blessed to work at over ten companies and I've been

715
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<v Speaker 3>seeing that gave me the ability to see a lot

716
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<v Speaker 3>of job in corporate cultures and just to see management mistakes,

717
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to see hiring mistakes, to make my own mistakes, to

718
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.639
<v Speaker 3>forget to figure out how to ask for the raise,

719
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>to not knowing how to ask for equity when it's

720
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<v Speaker 3>a startup. So I've made the mistakes, I've seen the mistakes.

721
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<v Speaker 3>So ten years of just being in the game of

722
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<v Speaker 3>life and mostly in this career world and ten different companies,

723
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.039
<v Speaker 3>I've been able to see a lot and so I

724
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 3>leveraged that and then outside of that, I just I

725
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 3>have had some experiences that have been difficult, and so

726
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I really pair that up with having a big heart.

727
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<v Speaker 3>And I think if you're with a client, and I

728
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<v Speaker 3>would say I do a bit of transformational coaching, is

729
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 3>you want to leave them in a place where you

730
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<v Speaker 3>fill their cup and if it depletes, just it may deplete.

731
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Our cups deplete over time and we need to refresh

732
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<v Speaker 3>and recharge. But if it depletes just a little bit

733
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<v Speaker 3>but they still are are able to keep it quite full,

734
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<v Speaker 3>then you've done your job and that person will likely

735
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<v Speaker 3>go on to have a pretty confident, successful career. And

736
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<v Speaker 3>also if you're in a successful career, it really impacts

737
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<v Speaker 3>your personal life in a great way. You know, sometimes

738
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 3>we overwork, which is a little bit different, But I

739
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 3>have had people where they're like, I'm miserable in my

740
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 3>relationship and we fix the career and it was the

741
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 3>career them not being happy or satisfied in their career

742
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 3>and bleeds into a nice, romantic and very loving relationship.

743
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've seen that during COVID.

744
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>There is a lot of couples and marriages that you

745
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>actually got divorced because of the pressure of financial strain, right, Yes,

746
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what brings when you don't have a job, when

747
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 1>you're not employed.

748
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very true.

749
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's a heavy burden to sometimes kind of

750
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<v Speaker 1>spill over.

751
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's some weird statistic like, you know, five hundred

752
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.159
<v Speaker 3>dollars more a month will prevent most divorces. I don't

753
00:41:58.199 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 3>know if you've.

754
00:41:58.559 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Ever heard that, No, I have it.

755
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a stat like that. But you know, we

756
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 3>all know that the more we make, the more we spend.

757
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 3>So maybe that's that's not all right, but it sounds nice.

758
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 3>It's probably very true though. You go five hundred, you

759
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>want to go buy a nice bag, go ahead, you know.

760
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>How about in asking for a raise or better yet,

761
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:26.400
<v Speaker 1>let's say you're in an interview and you are negotiating, Yes,

762
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that negotiating. How much should you kind

763
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of push and ask and how much should you be

764
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:34.599
<v Speaker 1>a little more kind of laid back and lenient.

765
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's so it's a nice push and pull, then

766
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 3>very push and pull. Do your research like anything. Now

767
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 3>we have great resources that we never had before glassdoor

768
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 3>dot com. It's a great place to go and see

769
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 3>what other people write. About companies, they give them reviews,

770
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 3>they disclose the salary so you can figure out what

771
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:03.639
<v Speaker 3>the top end for that particular role. Government contracts are

772
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 3>a little bit different. They're they're very transparent and you

773
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.400
<v Speaker 3>know what you're gonna get paid for a certain class

774
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.360
<v Speaker 3>of employee. But you know, in the corporate world there

775
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 3>you know use the tools. Glass Stoor is the main

776
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 3>one that I would go in research, and there's other

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<v Speaker 3>little like blog spots where you can get more information.

778
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<v Speaker 3>And so I would say, do your research, figure out

779
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 3>your bandwidth, figure out what you want, and then shoot

780
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 3>just outside of that and they might meet you right

781
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 3>there at the top.

782
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<v Speaker 1>So not don't go overboard, don't ask for way too much,

783
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>but don't ask for way too literally like a nice

784
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<v Speaker 1>middle Yes.

785
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 3>If you've done your research, you know where it's at,

786
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 3>where that is. Yeah, And a lot of times if

787
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 3>you don't do your research, what ends up happening is

788
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you undersell yourself, right, And then what happens is you

789
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 3>get upset when your colleague, when you find out your

790
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 3>colleagues making twenty five thousand dollars more, you're like, how

791
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 3>come I'm getting paid X? I'm sorry, That's what you negotiated,

792
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, so it's up to you now in the

793
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<v Speaker 3>next review to set yourself up. Keep your successes in

794
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 3>an Excel sheet or in a word document. Anytime you

795
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 3>have a customer that says, yeah, you did an amazing job,

796
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 3>or your boss says, hey, that's awesome. That's ten percent

797
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 3>more efficient, you keep that list. So when you are

798
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<v Speaker 3>up for that review every year, you're going to go

799
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 3>in there armed with all the amazing stuff you've done.

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<v Speaker 3>They might say, we want to give you X given

801
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<v Speaker 3>the one, two, three items that I've done, is there

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00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to probably increase that four K more ten

803
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<v Speaker 3>k more? Phrase it as is there an opportunity? Ask

804
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 3>it as a question. Don't take power away from your boss,

805
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 3>you know which power dynamics. There is a lot about

806
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<v Speaker 3>of what I work on with my clients as well

807
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 3>as not taking away the power from other people as

808
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<v Speaker 3>they're communicating with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially you know when they're in a position to

810
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<v Speaker 1>kind of hire you. Yes, So how do you go

811
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<v Speaker 1>in and understand what what your leverage is? I know

812
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 1>you said to do your homework right, but some employees

813
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<v Speaker 1>or employees or businesses, they don't. They don't disclose that

814
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.039
<v Speaker 1>they don't tell you, you know, we're open for negotiating. It's

815
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<v Speaker 1>not like a contract when like they say we're open

816
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<v Speaker 1>for negotiation.

817
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So other than that website, let's say we don't

819
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<v Speaker 1>find that information on that website.

820
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<v Speaker 4>How do you kind of gauge that?

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome? Like right now, I'm gonna say everyone needs a

822
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<v Speaker 3>chat GPT account Like chat GBT Ask Jack GBT, I

823
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 3>swear Chad GPT will say if you you can say,

824
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<v Speaker 3>if I want to become a nurse in in in

825
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 3>the Northeast and I want to work for XYZ Hospital System,

826
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<v Speaker 3>what is the salary range for that? Typical precision and

827
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<v Speaker 3>chat GBT will give you a certain bandwidth, it'll have

828
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<v Speaker 3>a caveat. You should do your own research, but you

829
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<v Speaker 3>can push the model to give you a certain answer.

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<v Speaker 3>So use that as a tool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Another great tool for people is BLS dot gov. Oh

832
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<v Speaker 2>can you know about it? Right?

833
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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

834
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<v Speaker 2>Because you type in a career right and it'll spit

835
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<v Speaker 2>out a report and you'll see variations of the same career,

836
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>what they're paying, what the average media and income is,

837
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<v Speaker 2>what kind of degree you need, et cetera, et cetera,

838
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<v Speaker 2>it's really a phenomenal tool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, speaking of technology, right, AI and all these things.

840
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<v Speaker 1>We know that a lot of work requires for you

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<v Speaker 1>to write. Yes, right, some positions require you to write,

842
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<v Speaker 1>and some positions are not really happy that people are

843
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<v Speaker 1>using artificial intelligence. I mean, eventually we're going to have

844
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to kind of give in, right, But I've personally seen

845
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 1>some people not be so happy. So how do we

846
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of go around that? Using chat GPT as a tool,

847
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 1>but maybe putting also your own personality in there, Like

848
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 1>do you need a balance?

849
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes, A lot of times just the models are

850
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 3>so they speak in a way that's still very robotic

851
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 3>or too eloquent. Right you use a certain Yeah, you

852
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 3>use a certain word, and they're like, you would never

853
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 3>use that word. I've never once heard you say this.

854
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

855
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I would say start with your own writing

856
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 3>and then ask chat GBT to to improve it. You know,

857
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 3>grammar syntax, and and it actually even though you ask

858
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 3>it to do grammar, it'll help you reformulate it into

859
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 3>a much better or flowing passage. If you ask it

860
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.199
<v Speaker 3>to write it on its own, it's gonna do this

861
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 3>eloquent thing. And then you have to pay play the

862
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 3>game of can you write it like a fourth grader?

863
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 3>You write it like a fifth grader, you know, And

864
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 3>so I would say start with your own writing first,

865
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and also just to basically keep your mind sharp. If

866
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 3>you continue to offload these thinking processes to the machine,

867
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 3>what ends up happening is that you yourself become obsolete skills

868
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 3>and you're dropping critical thinking skills. In the one skill

869
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 3>that gets us to the next level is critical thinking.

870
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Critical thinking is what gets you, you know, to from

871
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 3>fifty to one hundred thousand, two hundred and fifty. And

872
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 3>the biggest critical thinkers are the CEOs.

873
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's a great Can I play off that

874
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>last question and ask you some things? So we're talking

875
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 2>about AI, how do you see the job market changing

876
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and what skills will we need?

877
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 3>So right now, that's actually still a dark dark spot

878
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 3>for me. We're in a we're entering the age of

879
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 3>artificial intelligence and robotics at the exact same time. And

880
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 3>there are robots now that are they can cook. You know,

881
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>we're about maybe three or four years away from all

882
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 3>driving truck drivers. One of the biggest employee employments in

883
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 3>the country our drivers. So there's a big shift I'm

884
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 3>not exactly sure where we're going to go, but I

885
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 3>would say learn to leverage AI as soon as possible.

886
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, open that chat GPT account, play around with it.

887
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>It can write you a business plan if you do

888
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 3>get laid off. But so not exactly sure, but I

889
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 3>do know we're entering very heavily into the the age

890
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.920
<v Speaker 3>of robotics and AI both at once. It's and the

891
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 3>most surprising thing for me is that we all anticipated

892
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 3>like the robot to clean the street, or the robot

893
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 3>that will that will do the cooking, right, it actually

894
00:49:52.760 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 3>started replacing some of the more thinking jobs coding, marketing artists,

895
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 3>right for branding, like the things that don't require the

896
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.800
<v Speaker 3>highest critical thinking. But just in that space that was

897
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 3>a gigantic surprise for me and a game changer.

898
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>There actually hasn't been an industry that has not been

899
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 1>interrupted by artificial intelligence. That's scary, very very right, from

900
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:25.280
<v Speaker 1>content to like every industry that you can possibly imagine.

901
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 4>Right, So that.

902
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Gets us thinking, how do we to your point that

903
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to get into schools and things like that,

904
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 1>how do we begin to prepare our younger generation for

905
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the new world that awaits them, right for the new

906
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:44.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of employee that they will be. It is going

907
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to involve some kind of artificial intelligence.

908
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is kind of where I'm

909
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 3>at the other end of the spectrum where if you

910
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.519
<v Speaker 3>look at some of the greatest thinkers of our lifetime,

911
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 3>they actually had a lot of free time to just

912
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 3>be just think. I would say to prepare your children

913
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.679
<v Speaker 3>for the future. Take away the technology in the early years.

914
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 3>Let them be free thinkers, let them tinker, let us

915
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 3>let them do crafts. You know, you ever get stuck

916
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.559
<v Speaker 3>in that doom scrolling and then you and then you're

917
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 3>like it's hard to detach, and then you detach and

918
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 3>then you're sitting there and your brain is numb. It's numb,

919
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, what did I just do with the

920
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 3>last twenty thirty minutes? So take it away early. That's

921
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 3>going to give them the critical thinking skills. You obviously

922
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:44.679
<v Speaker 3>encourage them to read and maybe even like get one

923
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 3>of those puzzle construction subscriptions. Yeah, there's the ones that

924
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 3>teach first principles engineering and where they build, and maybe

925
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.039
<v Speaker 3>get a subscription there, because that's really what's going to

926
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 3>drive the future of them critically thinking. Then we can

927
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 3>introduce the tools. Tools are pretty much self explanatory at

928
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 3>that point.

929
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I one hundred percent agree with you. It is very

930
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 1>important for us to balance. I mean, they do need

931
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to learn how to use it because it's their world, right.

932
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Their generation is all techniques. Yes, However, the balancing act

933
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is so important because you are right when you are

934
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 1>scrolling and scrolling and you end up like waking up.

935
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Finally it's like, why did I waste an hour or two? Yeah?

936
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 3>And you feel your name honestly, like sit there and

937
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 3>think like my brain is numb, like I've watched this

938
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 3>and information has gone out, and now what ends up

939
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 3>happening is your brain is trying to tie in a

940
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:50.800
<v Speaker 3>dancing dog, a dancing girl, some guy getting ran over,

941
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:56.440
<v Speaker 3>and then a motivational speakers and another person by my

942
00:52:56.639 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Amazon selling course, and your brain's like, what am I

943
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 3>versus reading? Yeah, versus reading a long form article where

944
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 3>it's objectively analyzing something and it's forcing your brain to

945
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.119
<v Speaker 3>walk through the story and analyze it. And those are

946
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:16.639
<v Speaker 3>the skill sets of the future, you know.

947
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 5>Don't get me started here, for there are some great books,

948
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 5>old school personal development books that during the summer I

949
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 5>make my son read and write book reports for me.

950
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Nice like, but I make them do it anyway because

951
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I know the value.

952
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 4>Love you.

953
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>You learned sales this summer.

954
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's amazing. Yeah, sales, what a skill.

955
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a great skill.

956
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:42.679
<v Speaker 4>That was my next question.

957
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the skills that you see that

958
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 1>employees employers are looking for these days? What is something

959
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 1>that you see that is like, that's.

960
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 4>It right there.

961
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great question.

962
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you mentioned critical thinking.

963
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's a lack of people that want

964
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:07.519
<v Speaker 3>to do a little bit extra. So our generation really

965
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do more. Right, you would raise your hand

966
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 3>and do I want to do that? And so I would,

967
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I would say initiative. You know, there's you know, everyone's

968
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 3>at the conference room table, it's the weekly meeting, and

969
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:26.760
<v Speaker 3>it's there's this little problem and no one's raising their hand, right,

970
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 3>raise your hand. Take the project on, go out and

971
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 3>crush it or fail at it. If you fail at it,

972
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.599
<v Speaker 3>say this is why I failed. Here's what I learned.

973
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.719
<v Speaker 3>If you crush it, you have that for your next review.

974
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 3>No matter what, you move the needle and it's going

975
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 3>to show that you took initiative. Initiative is the key component,

976
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, and and learning how to sell an idea

977
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.440
<v Speaker 3>to right, because we could have a great idea and

978
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:57.400
<v Speaker 3>then you're going to go and present that to the

979
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 3>to the board, to your boss. One thing I do

980
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.880
<v Speaker 3>is I go and sell my idea to one person

981
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 3>at a time and everyone's on board, and then I

982
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 3>get them all together and then I'm like, hey, so

983
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 3>here's the game plan. Everyone's yeah, we're pretty much on board.

984
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.519
<v Speaker 3>And and you know, it gets done. And I get

985
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 3>into battles at work, and but it's they appreciate it.

986
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:25.079
<v Speaker 3>They appreciate that I'm highlighting some problem and yeah, it

987
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 3>may be it may cause a little bit of you know,

988
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:33.280
<v Speaker 3>communication problems and how do we figure this out? And

989
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe something, maybe we break something in the process, but

990
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 3>at the end, we usually make things better. And I

991
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:42.760
<v Speaker 3>think and employers really love that, you know. And I

992
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.599
<v Speaker 3>learned that working at one of the biggest hedge ones

993
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 3>in the world.

994
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So, so question for you, when can we expect your

995
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>book to be out so we can actually hold it

996
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 2>in our hand and read it.

997
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, people, you're putting me on the spot. Okay,

998
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 3>deadline for me is Jan sixteen, However, I am working

999
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 3>at a very insane piece right now at work, and

1000
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 3>we're buying. I work in an investment company and we're

1001
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:14.920
<v Speaker 3>buying the most assets we've ever done in one quarter,

1002
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and so it may delay stuff because there's still a

1003
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 3>lot of chapters that need to get fine tuned. But

1004
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Jan fifteen is the target date. Target date, yes, yes,

1005
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:29.159
<v Speaker 3>and the firm date will be ooh, we see. I

1006
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 3>told you he's disciplined and tough on me. I would say,

1007
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.199
<v Speaker 3>uh no, later by than now. Fab fifteen for sure.

1008
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awesome, Well, we can't wait.

1009
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm curious why sixteen fifteen sounds it's fifteen, but it

1010
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.559
<v Speaker 3>just sounds nice, you know, I don't know, fifteen rolls

1011
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:46.519
<v Speaker 3>off the tongue in the tea.

1012
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fifteen five and fifteen rull right, yeah, yeah.

1013
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Because if I say, like the thirtieth, then if I'm

1014
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 3>late one day, then I'm late the whole month. But

1015
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 3>if I'm fifteenth and I'm still a few days, they

1016
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:00.239
<v Speaker 3>I still got it within that months.

1017
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll be looking for it on the fifteenth.

1018
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

1019
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:05.159
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you.

1020
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.360
<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, how do people get in touch with you?

1021
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Sure, so you can actually find me. I do

1022
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Instagram posts at the World of Geo th h E

1023
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 3>w O r L d G I O, and I

1024
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 3>am on Facebook a little bit. I will start doing

1025
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:24.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot more content as we are promoting a few

1026
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 3>sponsored events and getting for a few ready for a

1027
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.960
<v Speaker 3>few speaking roles, and and just really living the purpose

1028
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 3>of trying to help people get to that next stage,

1029
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.199
<v Speaker 3>especially for I think all of us. I would even

1030
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:43.199
<v Speaker 3>throw myself under in this state where it's like, we

1031
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going to happen with the age of

1032
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 3>AI and robotics, So we need we need to stay tuned,

1033
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:50.880
<v Speaker 3>we need to stay alert, and we need to pivot

1034
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:55.639
<v Speaker 3>transform develop as things change, because they're changing very rapidly

1035
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:57.320
<v Speaker 3>right now, very rapidly.

1036
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Very very much.

1037
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well, Thank you so much. Thank you for coming,

1038
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 1>for sharing your wisdom, your knowledge or understanding right for

1039
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>also your good vibes and energy, and thank you so

1040
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>much too, but thank you for the work that you

1041
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 1>do because you're helping a lot of people. You know,

1042
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 1>as you help somebody get a job, you help them

1043
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 1>stable their life, you help them stable their you know,

1044
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>financial situation, which we already spoke about the effects of

1045
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the love life all that. So you're really helping them

1046
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>in their their life.

1047
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 4>As a whole.

1048
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah. Holistically, we spend the most time at work.

1049
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 3>If we can get that component right, it bleeds into

1050
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 3>so many areas of our life.

1051
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 4>That is true.

1052
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.760
<v Speaker 1>We spend so many hours of our day at work.

1053
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And with that, remember don't just live because every

1054
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<v Speaker 4>moment counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Gial for joining us today. You guys, we

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<v Speaker 1>hope to have you back and more projects.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Book all right, you just mentioned the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's a trilogy. It's a trilogy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see you guys next week, same time, same channel.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye,
