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Observer reporting a Honduran man accused. Wait whoa wait a minute,

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a Honduran man. Wouldn't he just be a charlotteman? The

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guy who was in the country illegally twice deported. Yes,

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he was from Honduras, But as I understand, you don't

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identify him as a Honduran man. You identify him by

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the place he he is currently residing, which is on

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the streets of the Queen City. So wouldn't he just

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be a Charlotte man. I mean, that's the standard with

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like the Maryland man a Branko Garcia, remember that guy,

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human trafficker MS thirteen member allegedly right, he was a

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Maryland man, a Maryland dad. So Why are we calling

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this guy a Honduran man. I'm just asking questions. A

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Honduran man accused of stabbing another man on Charlotte's light

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rail on Friday had previously been officially banned from using

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the train. That's according to the prosecutor in court yesterday.

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He had been officially banned. And we had a caller

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at the end of the last hour, Jeff who raised

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a really important question here, which is how did that happen?

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Who did he interact with to get himself banned? Was

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that a cat's thing? Was that one of these private

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security guards that put him on the ban list? Was

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there any interaction with cmpd if so? Would not we

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have discovered that this guy had been deported twice before

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and was a convicted felon violent crime record. Shouldn't he

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have been taken into custody at that point? No, no, no,

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because that's a federal thing. We don't do that kind

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of federal law enforcement. You see, we are different. We

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are better than the Orange Hitler's shock troops. We're not

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customs in border patrol. We are not ice. We are

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your friendly neighborhood law enforcement, building bridges with the illegal

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alien community. Right, So we're not to be engaged in

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any of this stuff. So when you had the interaction,

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shouldn't you have alerted somebody to the fact that this

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guy is twice deported middle illegal alien riding the trains

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causing problems. But no, I guess he just gets put

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on the official ban list and that's it. And you

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know he's obviously gonna honor that ban, what with him,

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you know, crossing into the country three times illegally, so

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you know he does recognize boundaries as he crosses them. Now,

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I did get a message here from Anthony on the

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text line, who says a ban from CATS with no

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security is like having a sign that says weapons are

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only allowed by law enforcement, Like a possible criminal is

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really going to care or abide by it. Yeah, I

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mean that's the that's the concealed carry angle on this story,

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because CATS does not allow conceal carry permit holders to

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carry concealed on the trains. Here's a message from Eric.

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When somebody is banned from a property, the police department

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makes a note of it on an official trespass log

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that they keep in the dispatch computer and it's taed

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to that individual person. So if any officer encounters them later,

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the fact they have been trespassed is tied to their

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name in the system. It's the same process for a

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government property like cats or a private property like when

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they ban somebody from target or something when they get

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caught shoplifting, then the police can automatically charge you with

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trespassing if you are found on the property. Again, Okay,

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so that's good to note. So there's a there's a database,

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criminal database that CMPD has access to, but it doesn't

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tell me how that how this guy Oscars Solarzano, how

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he ended up getting into that database as an officially

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banned and individual who put them in there? I'm assuming

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it was CATS personnel. But see, this is the problem

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when you attempt to nullify immigration law, which is what

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our local politicians have been doing, our local city council,

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county commissioners, sheriff. They keep making all of these statements.

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And I've documented this before with the Welcoming America nonprofit,

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the NGO that funds a bunch of these checklists that

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cities have to comply with in order to be certified

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as a welcoming city. And Charlotte checked enough boxes to

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win this certification. And one of the things that Welcoming

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America requires is this kind of nullification approach that you're

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not going to work with immigration officials, right, and that

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you're going to make public statements to that effect, and

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you're going to make public statements against anybody that's critics

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anything like this. That's how you That's one of the things.

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One of the boxes on the Welcoming America checklist. I

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went over this last week or two weeks ago. So

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during Oscar Solarzano's first appearance, a Mecklenburg prosecutor said that

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the thirty three year old drank a beat box wine cooler. Okay,

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I am already drawing a whole bunch of conclusions here,

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but I okay, I've never heard of beat box wine coolers.

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I have heard of wine coolers, and let's just say

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there is a certain stigma attached to the wine cooler

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imbibing if you're a dude. Okay, Anyway, he was chugging

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down the beat box wine coolers before yelling at and

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stabbing his victim with an extremely large fixed knife blade

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aboard Charlotte Area Transit System's blue line. The non fatal stabbing,

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I mean barely non fatal. The guy who he stabbed,

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Kenyon Dobe, He's still in the hospital. He's got tubes

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draining blood out of his lungs. He did post on

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to social media though, thanking people for the support. He's

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also got to go fund me to try to raise

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money to pay for his medical bills. He's trying to

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raise twenty five thousand dollars. He posted up on to

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go fund me. I'm the second victim of the Blue

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Line stabbing. Luckily I survived, but my body has taken

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plenty of damage. I have a tube running from my

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chest to a machine pumping blood out of my lungs.

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Please pray and help me with a better recovery. He's

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raised somewhere around sixty five hundred dollars. As of the

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last time I checked the GoFundMe, he's at about sixty

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five hundred of twenty five thousand. You know who should

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probably make a donation here? How about our local elected

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officials and not from the taxpayer funds. I'm not saying that.

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I'm saying all of you people who have been in

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charge of policy, all you people that have been, you know,

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trying to obstruct immigration enforcement. Maybe you guys could throw

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some cash towards this dude. Call it a form of penance,

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personal attrition, a contrition, you know, not attrition, but contrition.

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Maybe just a small indication that, you know what, I

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recognize that there is a nexus here between my rhetoric

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and my policies, and my support or opposition to various

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policies that may have put you in the danger that

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you faced aboard the light rail line when this maniac

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was screaming at elderly people, and the twenty four year

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old Kenyon Dobe stepped in to do what I think

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most people would want a young, healthy, strong dude to

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do when there's some maniac threatening the elderly on a train.

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last night, Yeah, big pr campaign to make people feel

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safe when they're writing. Randy says, that's great news for

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the stabbed individual on the train. There's a billboard coming

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near you that you can look at, so you won't

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worry about any of this happening. Again, it's about the

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perception of safety. Seven oh four number says, what if

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they put up a sign that said safe space on

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every single car of the light rail and then everything

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would be fine, seems easy. That's right, there's no room

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for violence on this train, and then that'll do it,

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you know. I think the concern also, and people suggest

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allowing concealed carry permit holders to conceal carry, the fear

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there is that then criminals will also conceal carry. If

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you allow law abiding citizens to conceal carry, that means

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that criminals will start bringing guns onto the trains and

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maybe nins because they wouldn't do so otherwise. I think

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that's the logical concern. As I mentioned, the Mecklenberg County

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Sheriff Gary not my fault McFadden held a news conference

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yesterday where he once again reiterated his complaints about Arena's law.

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Here's the headline from the Charlotte Observer. After another train stabbing,

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Mecklenburg sheriff says Arena's law won't help. He says, it's

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just going to put more strain on his jail staff. Now,

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I went over some of this dumbassary in the first hour,

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but I did watch the news conference and I did

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pull some audio clips, so I'm going to share some

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of the dumassery with you. So he held the news

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conference years that we started.

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Speaker 1: This is a tragedy in our city, but it is

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one of the tragedies that has been highlighted all over

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the US. But it's hard to have those conversations with

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the other parents who've lost their children just to the

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same violence that Arena lost her life.

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Speaker 2: What the hell are you talking about that this is

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harder to talk with other parents of victims because of

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Arena's murder. Arena Zarotzka's murder. I get a sense I

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know where he's going with this, Like he's trying to

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say that this story is getting a disproportionate amount of

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coverage for reasons. I'm not really sure which reasons, but

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let's let him finish.

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Speaker 1: And we believe that the only reason that this caught

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national attention is because it was caught on video and

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it was displayed across the United States, and our local

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politicians at that time saw it was a political agenda

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or they could highlight her as a refugee and not

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an immigrant, and this is why they created IRENA's Law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still not clear on what the hell he's

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trying to say there now. To be sure, the story

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went viral when the video of the murder was released,

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and it was released because media outlets like the Charlotte

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Observer went to court to try to get them to

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release the video and they were forced to release it.

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It's public information. And then once that video clip was

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released and people saw the interaction that this girl had

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no interaction with her attacker. She got on the train,

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she sat down, and the guy just stands up and

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murders her for no reason. It was horrific, it was shocking,

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and yes, publication of the video did give the story

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the reach that it got, and the shocking nature of

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it coupled with a very important part here, coupled with

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the catch and release turnstile court system. That's what gave

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the story more power to prompt a change in the law.

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It didn't have anything to do with her being an

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immigrant from Ukraine, a refugee and not an immigrant. See

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again the conflation. She was a legal immigrant. She was

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here legally she was, and yes, that was part of

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the story. Was the fact that she fled a literal

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war zone, literally fled a war only to be murdered

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in a city that does a catch and release turnstile

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form of quote justice. That's what made all the more egregious.

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But note he's conflating refugee and immigrant, not illegal, right,

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he doesn't say illegal immigrant, because that's what this story

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is now about. This story, coming three and a half

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months after Arena Zarutzka's murder, this story now features an

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illegal alien with a long criminal history who was deported

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two previous times and who committed this act on the

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same train in the same city. Also a mere what

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two weeks after Customs and Border Patrol did its big

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operation in Charlotte, prompting leftists to act like children throwing

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a tantrum. And by the way, I think I mentioned

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this yesterday, but do you think that maybe alerting all

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of the criminal illegal aliens that CBP was operating and

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where they were operating and taking pictures and videos of

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them during their operations, do you think that maybe this alien,

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maybe he was aware of where ICE was operating or

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CBP was operating, and maybe he steered clear of those areas,

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like maybe y'all helped him avoid arrest and deportation. Let's

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talk about that accountability, shall we. Here's a great idea.

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Donna says, Oh my lord, I cannot believe what this

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jerk McFadden just said. A political move, that's where he

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goes with this. Many of us have been outraged over

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the murders of innocent people, regardless of their nationality, race,

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or gender. This guy McFadden is completely out of touch

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with the way normal, caring, concerned people think. Yeah, yeah,

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some of us have been talking about the catch and

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release turnstile court system that Mecklenburg County has been running

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for decades. We've been talking about this for decades. I

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covered it when I was a reporter twenty five years ago,

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So this is this is not new. The passage of

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Arena's law took effect on December first. At the press

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conference yesterday at the Sheriff's office, Major Robert Abbey, who

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oversees the arrest processing center, said he expects to see

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an increase in delays in the processing center. He said,

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the overcrowding then is going to make it more dangerous

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for people that are brought in and they're told to

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wait there. They have to wait for processing. So that's

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going to be more dangerous because you've got people in

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there that have beefs with each other or whatever. You

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got a bunch of criminals going to criminal each other,

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you know. But also for staff as well.

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Speaker 3: We've actually noticed the increase since September after the event.

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Looking at the trend lines of how many people will

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we call booked is when they come through the entire

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process and they actually get dressed in and taken upstairs

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to the detention center. That's called being booked. A lot

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of them before would get released by the magistrate. We

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expect the mattresses not to release a lot of people

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due to the law changes. Right, We're not gonna this

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was before the law change. But six since the incident

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of September, we've noticed about compared to last year, about

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a ten percent increase every single month since September of

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more people actually being booked and sent upstairs. So we're

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already seeing that that trend increasing since September and the

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law has only been in place for about a week.

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Speaker 2: Well, now let's apply some logic to this situation, shall we.

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I know, I know, but it's I kind of like

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to do this, all right, So after the incident, he

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keeps calling it the incident, it is the murder of

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Arena Zarutzka. After that murder and then the you know,

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international coverage that the story got, he said they started

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seeing an uptick in the number of people being held.

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Why he attributes it to the magistrates because the magistrates

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now are worried. They're worried that because he and he

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says in that clip, he says, where they would have

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just turned people loose immediately, now they weren't doing that

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so much. So that was even before Arena's law went

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into effect. They started seeing the impact the public pressure,

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the outrage influenced the way magistrates were ruling. So logic

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would dictate then that this was in their discretion and

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now they're taking a bit of a harder line on crime. Right.

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But it raises the obvious question that I think this

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is David Hodges. I couldn't I couldn't tell, but I

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think it sounds like him from WBTV who asks the

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obvious question. Since the mental health aspect of the law

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hasn't taken effect, it won't take effect until next year,

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and my usual of essentially what would cause somebody to

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stay booked as opposed to where they were before.

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Speaker 1: Is what's causing the biggest jail inflo infuts of people

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simply magistrates afraid of releasing.

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Speaker 2: The wrong people. Is it magistrates afraid of releasing the

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wrong people? That's the obvious question. Is that what you're

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seeing the increase due to? That's what Robert Abbey just said.

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Major Abby just said.

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Speaker 1: And someone just tell me if that's the case, I

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don't think that we can Well, I'm going to say,

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I don't think we can just put it on the mat.

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And we're not going to just put it on the mats.

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It's a system. It's a system. It's a system that

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they are here. We have people in crisis. We don't

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understand that. We have people been waiting to go to

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trial for a number of reasons. Mental health is a

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part of it. Poverty is a part of it. People

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don't have the resources to actually bond their loved ones

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out and places don't have to go. People are released

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from Mecenburg. People are released from prison every week and

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brought Tomcinburgh County. A couple of days ago, I met

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a gentleman on the sidewalk and he needed a place

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to go being out of prison after one year, we

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set him to our resource center that give him all

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the things that we could possibly give. But he is

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still homeless inside of Macinburg County. Is he going to

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commit a crime that likelihood? Yes? Why? Poverty, food, nutrition,

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and housing, so he may do things just to feel comfortable,

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and he will come inside our detention center and then

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again it becomes a poverty issue where nobody can bond

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him out and he remains here. Those are the things

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that data may not show all the time.

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Speaker 2: What the hell are you talking about? The question was

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about whether or not the increase in the arrest processing

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center that you have seen that Major Abby just said

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was increasing like ten percent each month since the murder

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of Arena Zarutzka. And the question is is that because

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magistrates are now taking a harder line, are they afraid

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of releasing a violent criminal and having something like this

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happen again. And the obvious answer is, of course yes,

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obviously yes, magistrates are worried that if they release the

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people as they have been doing, they're going to end

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up being tied to a case of another violent crime.

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And McFadden then steps in, well, we don't want to

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throw it all on the magistrates. It has to do

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with poverty. And then he starts waxing about this story

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about a prisoner who got released and now he's homeless whatever,

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like that's got nothing to do with the increase of

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ten percent at arrest processing. But it's a window into

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his mindset. He's talking about poverty, that's the cause of incarceration.

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It's poverty, when in fact, it's crime that drives up poverty.

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Mecklinburg County Sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden, because nothing

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is ever his fault. He's held a news conference yesterday

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to further trash Arena's Law, named after Arena Zarutska, the

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Ukrainian refugee murdered on the Charlotte light rail line about

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almost four months ago. Another stabbing occurred Friday, but McFadden

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last week went before the County Commissioners. We played that audio.

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He was talking about all the unfunded mandates and all

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of this, and we've been pointing out there is actually

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another jail that's mothball in Mecklinburg County, and he's complaining

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that he doesn't have the bedspace, he doesn't have enough

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jail space for all of the people now that they're

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going to have to hold for a longer period of time.

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Yet they're you know, these are decisions that the Mecklenburg

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Border County Commissioners, completely Democrat controlled, and the Democrat sheriff.

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These are decisions they made to close the jail North,

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to scrap the plans for the jail annex construction. Right,

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these are their choices. It's also the choice of Mecklenburg

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voters that keep putting not my fault McFadden back into office.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Voters will have an opportunity to vote him out this

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coming election twenty twenty six. Don't know if they will.

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I will attempt to vote in the Democrat primary again

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to specifically vote against him, because the people who have

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left his employee over the last seven years or eight

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years almost they have described somebody who is completely unfit

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to run that office. And every time I play these

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audio clips that I've been doing it now for five years,

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it just reinforces that he's unfit for the office. Constantly deflecting,

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blaming other people, other systems, politicians, everybody is to blame

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for whatever failures that exist at the Sheriff's office. The

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lack of bedspace is a direct result of intentional decisions

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that were made by McFadden and county officials. That's who

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is to blame. Okay, Now, the guy who stabbed this

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fella on the light rail on Friday does not appear

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to have ever been in the Mecklamerg jail, so there's

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no finger McFadden's fingerprints are not on this case. But

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and he scheduled this news conference, I'm sure before the

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guy was stabbed, and he did a and so I

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think the purpose was to show local media through the

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arrest processing center. But this is obviously a media campaign

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that McFadden is waging in order to cry poor so

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he can try to get funding out of the state

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to beef up his staffing and to commit more resources

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to Mecklinburg County Jail, even though Mecklinberg County Commissioners have

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not funded it even to the point of government facilities

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or parks and rec budgets. It's a lower priority for

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Mecklinberg County commissioners and it has been for probably close

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to twenty years. McFadden went on to say at this

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press conference that the longer people stay in the jail,

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the more inmates and families will be in crisis.

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Speaker 1: People are going to stay longer. And when people stay longer,

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they become agitated, and we become agitated, their families become agitated,

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and then they call us with more demands, and then

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that call has to be received by one of my

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staff in the middle of another crisis. And so you

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have to think about this. This is a facility that

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have sixteen hundred people who have been in a crisis,

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and they're probably going to remain in that crisis because

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they are here and their family into a crisis. Holidays

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bring crisis.

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Speaker 2: Also, note the way he thinks of his residence at

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the jail. It's not their fault. They're in crisis. That's

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why they murdered that person allegedly. Right, this is a mindset.

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This hooks into the suicidal empathy. Right, I feel so

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much for you, And people wonder sometimes, like when I

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say suicidal empathy, what am I talking about? It's a term.

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I think it was coined by Gad Sad. That's his name.

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He's a he's from Lebanon. He's a what is it

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something hmmmm, anthropological psychologist or something like that. And he

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equates it to for example, when you have a when

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a culture elevates a certain principle or characteristic above all others.

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And the example he used was honor in specifically the

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Japanese culture. Right, and if you did something that brought

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dishonor or shame to your cell or your family, then

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you would kill yourself, right, people would commit hari kari.

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And that's what happens when you elevate a certain principle

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or trait above all others in a society that you

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are literally willing to die for that trait, for that principle.

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And the same then would apply here to empathy. And

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when you elevate empathy to such a high level, then

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you are willing to die commit suicide for that trait.

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And he argues that's what we're seeing at a societal

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level in the West. And I would submit this is

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another example of it what McFadden is articulating. I'llbe it

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very poorly, but that's the same thing. It's that these

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people aren't really to blame. They were in crisis, so

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we need to feel bad for them, even if it

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means we get stabbed on the train. All right, that'll

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do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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I could not do the show without your support and

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the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast,

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so if you'd like, please support them and tell them

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you heard it here. You can also become a patron

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at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again,

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.