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Speaker 1: All Star Toyota Presents Off the Bench. We have Jacob

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.

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Speaker 1: The plays get broken down. Ben Science gets denied.

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Speaker 2: I gotta come off the bench.

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Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes

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Benz Baton Rouge Studio starts now.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back again.

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Speaker 4: Now number two OTB one oh four five ESPN Ben Route.

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It is now time for the OTB Top twenty five

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and we are getting to number nine. A quick recap

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at twenty five, it's Boise State at twenty four, Memphis

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at twenty three, Baylor at twenty two, Georgia Tech at

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twenty one, Tennessee at twenty, Iowa State at nineteen, Texas

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A and M at eighteen, Indiana at seventeen, Ole Miss

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fifteen or sixteen, Florida fifteen, Texas Tech fourteen, SMU thirteen,

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Arizona State twelve at Alabama eleven, Miami at number ten.

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It was Illinois and at number nine a Landra at lumber.

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Speaker 3: Nine, Villa Reale.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it, guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 5: No, what Texas I'm putting Texas at Yeah, alright, do

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what you get. I'm not ready to crown them number one,

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not ready to put them in the top five yet.

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I just feel like they have so much to prove.

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storyline for Texas in general coming into the season. Obviously,

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Arch Manning, we've talked about it at nauseum about how

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he has so much to prove, all of this pressure

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on him because everybody's crowning him the Heisman winner in

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the preseason before we've seen anything from him. But they

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lose twelve of their starters, a lot of their defenses returning,

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but well, the defense also finished ranked third last season.

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They only have one returner on their O line, so

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that's a little and Steve Sarkisian himself also said that

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that's probably his biggest concern two weeks out into the

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two weeks out from the season. But they lose two

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very productive wide receivers, but they keep Wisner, who was

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very very productive for the offense, rushed for over one

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thousand yards last season. Like I said, they lose Isaiah

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Bond and Matthew Golden, but they return Ryan Wingo who

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had some playing time last season, and DeAndre Moore junior.

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They both had like four over four hundred receiving yards.

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And then they get Khalie Lockett, who is a true freshman,

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five star recruit who's poised to make an impact on

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this team. And they do have a pretty favorable schedule. So,

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but does anybody here in this room think that they'll

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win the opener?

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Speaker 2: I do not. I think they lose to host it.

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Speaker 3: I think they lose.

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Speaker 4: I think they lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they lose by double.

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Speaker 3: Digits, but they'll lose.

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Speaker 6: I'm actually with you on that one.

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Speaker 4: Horns down the Texas really good Defensively, They're great, They're

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no doubt about it. They got the best player in

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the country and Jem Smith I think is really good defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Like I said, they're returning defense, yes, exactly. And

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those are where all my questions are. I think that's

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where majority of people's questions are is on the offense.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it is they're ranked number

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one on everything that's actually fair, arc is going number

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one in the draft next year? Are there questions for me?

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Speaker 3: There are?

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Speaker 2: Their polls don't matter.

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Speaker 5: Their polls don't matter. The only one that matter is

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the OTV poll. They do get a couple of defensive

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linemen in the portal. They had like a very quiet

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portal haul of only five players that they signed. But

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one of the also another big loss for Texas is

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Gunner Helms and he was a like you talk about

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safety blanket. He was quin you were safety blanket. But

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they go into the portal and they signed Jack Injuries

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from cal and then another wide receiver from Stanford who

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had five hundred and twenty five receiving yards last season,

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some returners that are wide receivers, but they don't have

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Matthew Golden and Isaiah Bond Gunner Helms and uh yeah,

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I'm gonna put them at ten or nine, sorry nine.

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Speaker 2: When we get all the way to one, can we like,

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as a stage, can we make a press release with

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our top twenty five and see of people picking up

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We should see how far somebody can pick this up.

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Like radio station North Dakota talking about these.

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Speaker 5: Idiots, I think we should Texas Texas audio stations.

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Speaker 6: And we not put like baton rouge on it and

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just be like just put it out and people are like.

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Speaker 2: Ye love it.

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Speaker 4: Texas schedule we all know that's where I was at

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Ohio State Landra, what does it look like after you

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played the buck Eyes on the road.

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Speaker 5: So you host San Jose State and then you host

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U T L Paso, You host Sam Houston, so again

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a favorable schedule, but then you go to Florida and

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if DJ Lagway in Florida is as good as everybody

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saying they are, then they might have some troubles there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're the home team this year. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: At Kentucky at Mississippi States.

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Speaker 2: Those are wins.

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Speaker 5: Then they host Vanderbilt at Georgia which is gonna be tough,

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host Arkansas, and then they also in the season hosting

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Texas A and M, which might also maybe be.

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Speaker 4: A tricky one.

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Speaker 3: So well stretch for them to end the season. Now

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two of those games are at home.

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Speaker 4: Look, those schedules certainly not one of the more difficult

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ones in the in the Southeastern Conference, it was not,

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and now it's just flipped and just where they play

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the game is different.

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Speaker 2: So buddy, they're gonna get them, fear Mater, You.

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Speaker 4: Do have look you've got a Georgia problem, and so

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you're playing at Georgia on November the fifteenth, and then

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you have two rival games against Arkansas and Texas A

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Speaker 3: Again, both those games are at home.

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Speaker 4: But with this schedule, like, I think that's maybe why

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a lot of people like Texas as well. It's the schedule,

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ye Like when you look at THEIRS compared to Oklahoma's,

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or THEIRS compared to Florida, or There's compared to even LSU,

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doesn't compare right right now outside now, look, I give

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you a lot of credit for going to play Ohio

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State on the road, but I'm talking about just the

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conference portion of this.

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Speaker 3: You you know, you go against a fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: Rank Florida team and a nineteenth rank Texas A and

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M team, So your your schedule really comes down to

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at Ohio State and at Georgia for me, which is

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two brutal games, don't get me wrong. But outside of that,

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everything else feels like you can manage it.

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Speaker 6: I think even if they lose game one to Ohio State,

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probably still picking Texas to go ten and two. I mean,

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it's going to be tough in Florida. I think Texas

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is a better team. They could lose the Oklahoma game,

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but you get past Florida and Oklahoma, you're likely not

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losing a game until you get.

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Speaker 2: To ten and two, losing the playoffs. That's a good

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recipe for number nine in the country at the end

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of the year.

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Speaker 3: Very fair summer.

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Speaker 6: I like, I love their defense. Their offense concerns are a

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little bit not because of Arch. I think Archer is

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going to be good. We do have to see it,

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you know, before we can and annoyed him the king

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of college football. But they lose their top three receivers

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here ago. Now Sark did a great job, brought in

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two different five stars, Khalik Lockett, but also Jamie French,

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who LSU wanted very badly. You get wise in their back.

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Speaker 2: But Jayden Blue, he got.

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Speaker 6: You a lot of tough yards last year. He plays

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for the Dallas Cowboys. Now he's gone as well. Like

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as good as that defense is going to be. The offense,

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I think it's gonna be good. But out of the gate,

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you gotta play a good defense like Ohio stage. I

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think they're gonna sputter a little bit out of the game.

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Speaker 2: What's the line four and a half four at so

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interesting comment in the chat right now, somebody said Texas

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would be favored over a house state if it was

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at Texas. That's true, I don't think so. I think

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probably favored. I don't think they'd win, but I think probably.

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You think they'd be the betting favorite probably right now.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just look at them on paper, They're not

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that dissimilar, ye, And I mean, what they're three If

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they're a three and a half point.

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Speaker 3: Favorite alive, the lines down to two, okay.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, something would be even money. Any more.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts on the Texas Longhorns.

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Speaker 4: I think obviously they are going to go as arch

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keep them in every single game that they play this year.

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I think it's gonna be one of the best defenses

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in the country. Can their playmakers make plays. They get

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some running backs back from injury, that's going to be big.

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They returned the only thousand yard rusher in the SEC.

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That's also going to help any young quarterback. You know,

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the receiver position is going to be critical, the offensive

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line is going to be critical, but it's going to

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go as arch Manning goes. I think we can all

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agree there, yeah, agreed, Yeah, Marcision, pretty.

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Speaker 3: Good play, caller, it's pretty good play.

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Speaker 2: But you gotta you gotta worry about the longevity the

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team's gonna have. They are not real hydrated. Oh, I

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think we kick him out of the top ten because

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of that, making me horns down.

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Speaker 4: All right, the Texas Longhorn, I'm with you, the number

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nine team and the OTB Top twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Uh, tomorrow will be number eight.

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Speaker 4: And then on the final day if you're trying to

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do some quick math there you're wondering, Wait a minute,

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you don't have enough days. Actually number two and number

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one will be on the Friday before the opening weekend

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of college football. We go there, you go, number nine,

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the Texas Longhorns. All right, we will take a break,

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too much credit there, no, no, no, all right, I

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got doctor your name, so yes.

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Speaker 4: So you know we obviously I'm gonna talk some injuries

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here with doctor Etheridge, and like more than just like

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get into okay, this guy and this injury, what's the timetable?

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Like just the injury itself is typically what we kind

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of get into there. So obviously there's you know, some

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Saints offensive linemen there down there's some Saints tight ends

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that are down right now. But okay, so turf toe

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is one of the things that is keeping a Saints

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offensive lineman out right now. And we were kind of

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joking because I had the same thought as you had

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growing up. When Dion Sanders had turf toe. I remember

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hearing that as you know, gosh, ten year old whatever,

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it was like turf toe. Man, if I said, if

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I told my dad, I can't go out there because

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I got turf toe, you know what you would say

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to me? What is turf toe? And like how long

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is that recovery? And when you go out there, is

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it a situation where you can try to get back

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too soon and you know, just continue to hurt it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny because like you said, it's it's one

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of those things that just does sound like a big deal.

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Speaker 3: It's a toe injury. We don't think a whole lot

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about that.

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Speaker 8: But when you're talking about a turf toe, it's specifically

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a big toe injury, so the great toe of the

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big toe. And sometimes they'll lump a few different diagnoses

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in that category. But technically, when we talk about a

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turf toe, it's an injury to what's called the plant

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or plate, so that's on the bottom of the toe,

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so it's the area right at the base of the

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big toe. And what happens is that toe gets hyper extended.

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So if your foot's kind of bent and you come

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down the front of that toe and that hyper extended position,

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especially if you have like all your weight come down

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on or somebody falls on the back of your foot

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or falls on your body, you can sprain or even tear.

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Speaker 3: That ligament is kind of capsule under the toe.

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Speaker 8: And so then every time you try to push off,

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And as much as we don't think of toe as

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being that important, especially that big toe, if you think

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about how much with a sport you're up on your toes,

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you're pushing off everything you do.

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Speaker 3: That's explosive.

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Speaker 8: So even as alignment, when you're getting out of your stands,

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when you're having this kickstep and come back and land

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on that toe in that bent position, every time you're

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hitting that tear, every time you're hitting that injury. So

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while it doesn't sound like it's that big of a deal,

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I mean it can be excruciating it and functionally very difficult.

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Speaker 3: Is it something that you can continue to like make worse?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It is it a pain situation?

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Speaker 4: Can you continue to just look every time you go

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out there, it just you kind of hate reset.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, like a lot of injuries about severity.

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Speaker 8: So turf toe, if you have a mile kind of

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a Grade one that's more of a spring that kind

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of stretch it, you kind of irritated it. Those are

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the injuries you can kind of play with with those guys.

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You know, sometimes put it like a carbon fiber insole

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on the shoe that gives a little more rigidity to

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the shoe, so there's a little bit less bend to

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that toe. You can do the typically you know, therapy,

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anti inflammatory is all the normal stuff that we do

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in that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can usually play through that.

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Speaker 8: Now when you start getting in the grade two, that's

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a partial tear, that's the one that you know, we

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might boot that guy for you know, anywhere from four

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to six weeks, kind of keeping them kind of you know,

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to let that heal. But those will heal and then

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you can have a full tear. So if you if

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you push these guys back too early, yeah you could

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tear it. Full tear is usually going to be surgery.

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So that's you know, potentially season ending if that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Can we come up with like a just a more

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better name for it, because what you're explaining here, it's like, yeah,

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that's like a torn tendon like in the bottom of

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at my big toe, right, Like, let's just come up

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with a little bit better name, more severe you say,

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like like a torn achilles or a torn a cl

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Everyone's like, whoa you say turf toe.

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Speaker 3: It does make it sound really bad.

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Speaker 8: And you know, and I guess you know, you can

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always use fancier words, you know, a sprain of the

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plate at the first, you know, metata turf if you

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want to get it, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I take it back, that's right, but with a planner though.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever had like plantar fasciaties.

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Speaker 4: I've I've had that, and they're like, it's better to

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actually have that fully tear, then maybe just have something

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partial that it's gonna continue to just you know.

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Speaker 3: Aggravate you. Like I actually heard mine Pope.

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Speaker 8: Like plantar fashion those they just feel better when they tear.

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You know, it's it's it's chronically inflamed and irritated plantar fascia.

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You know, compare the toe because it's not quite as

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structurally significant that big toe being able to flex and

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push off of it. You know, if you have a

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complete disruption there, functionally, you're gonna be limited.

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Speaker 2: Man, I want to talk to out. We brought him up. Al,

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you got a friend of the show here and he

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will clap. So, first preseason game, couple of couple of

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plays into god, you know, an experience that so excited

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to get back to New Orleans. So kind of heartbreaking

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the scene and like go down with an injury so

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fast in the first like preseason game. So he has

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a Liz Frank injury and in his right foot. Can

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you kind of explain what that is, Like, what like

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from a medical standpoint, what a Liz Frank is and

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like what is actually tearing or breaking in the foot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Liz Frank.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of fun because at least a little more

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mysterious name there. It's not quite it's a fun name

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and a lame as a turf toe sounding it was.

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But so so this is an injury more in the midfoot.

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So another foot injury. These these are unfortunately not that

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uncommon in sports. Typically this is going to be a

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little bigger injury. I mean there's all again degrees of severity.

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Is this just a mile this Frank sprain versus a

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complete disruption. But you have this area right at the

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base of your what are called your metatarsals. So the

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meta tarsals are the long bones in the foot. They're

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the they're the bones that kind of go from the

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midfoot to the toe. So we all have more on

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that basically lines up with each toast. You have five

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meta tarsal bones, and at the base of that second

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meta tarsal where it articulates with the rest of the foot,

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these smaller tarsal bones, you can have a disruption of

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a ligament there and potentially break the base of that

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second meta tarsal. So, Liz Frank, injury is really some

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combination of one of those two things.

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Speaker 3: There's a ligament and a.

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Speaker 8: Bone, sometimes both, sometimes one, and just like we're talking

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about with the turf toe, if it's a mild sprain,

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you know, that might be something that we can kind

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of boot up for a little bit, we can sort

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of work with it. But once you get a true

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disruption of the ligament or if you have the fracture injury,

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that joint becomes unstable, and an unstable joint in a

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foot that's carrying all your weight, especially a big guy

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like will, Yeah, that's not a good injury.

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Speaker 3: So that's usually gonna be surgery.

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Speaker 8: You're usingly have to go restabilize, put a screw in,

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put some kind of a tight wire, depending on where

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the injury is, and then let that heal.

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Speaker 4: Man, you start talking about all the different injuries just

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in the foot alone, I know, right, and like how

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many different things can go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to ask you a four list, right?

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Is it a surgical situation? So you're talking, yeah, it

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could be, depending on severity, plate screws, things like that.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I'm not sure with Will's situation.

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Speaker 8: I haven't heard the official, but you know, if you

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hear he's out for the season, you know my assumption

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is more than likely he's getting that fixed.

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Speaker 4: All right. So ACL is something that you know, we

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talk about probably more than any injury in sports. It's

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the ACL and it's the how long is it going

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to take to get back?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: Obviously, if we're having this conversation twenty years ago, like

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we're not even really having it, it's like, nope, done

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out Sea, doesn't matter. It's going to be like a

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full calendar year, like twelve months, and we're talking maybe

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even longer than that. But now we're seeing guys come

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back I think much quicker from that injury. The Saint's

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got a couple tight ends that are dealing with that

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that you know, they happen at the end of last year.

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Is it possible for them to have that in December

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January and then assume that they can help you out

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in September?

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Speaker 3: You know, September is hard.

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Speaker 8: We've had guys probably kind of in that eight ish

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month range, probably on the short end to make it back.

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That's where we are now, and like you said, that's

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it's much faster than what it used to be, but

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unfortunately that's probably the shortest you're gonna see. And for

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for somebody to get back at that eight month it

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really needs to be a perfect case scenario, just an

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ACL injury, because sometimes you damage the ACL, you can

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have moniscus and cartilage injuries with it and everything that

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goes into that slows the recovery a little bit. And

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then you just got to really just have really good fortune.

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We're very lucky, you know, with our athletes that we

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have so many resources, uh what we have today even

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compared to a few years ago. Let alone when when

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when you all played or when I played, even it

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wasn't that long ago that the advances we have.

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Speaker 2: You know, except I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: It's it's it's it's it's the rehab, it's the nutrition,

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it's knowledge, it's it's better surgical techniques. There's a lot

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of things that go into it. But unfortunately you're still

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looking at several months. You know that the graft has

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to heal in so when you when it's an ACL injury,

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you basically make a new ACL. It's not you don't

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go in and fix the old one. So that that

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new ACL, basically we have to see it mature. We

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have see the bone around it grow in. We have

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to see all that. Then you've got to get your

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muscle strength back. You know, you got to be fairly

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symmetric toye side. You got to have good balance, appropriate recession,

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and basically teach the body to use this new knee

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right as technically it's not the same knee it was,

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So you have to kind of learn all that again.

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So that whole process takes takes months, and if you

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rush it, you're probably gonna retear it and come back

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just weaker and not as as functionally well. But again,

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reinjury is a big concern.

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Speaker 2: How has the over the years, how often does that

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surgery for an aco because I would say from season

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ending it's like the most prevalent one for a season

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ending type interlay. What has all changed because I know,

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like there's been periods of time where it's like cadaver.

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There has been you take hamstring, muscle, like you take

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different things. So what is that grafting process now, Like,

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what are the specifics why it is so much better

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and faster now than it was you know, probably five

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to ten, you know, certainly twenty years ago.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so some of it, like like you said, there

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are different graphs. Most of the times we're using something

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from your own body. So you can use cadaver tendons

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and ligaments, but you know the problem with those is

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sometimes the little bit weaker, there's a little bit more

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risk that those may tear again in the future.

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Speaker 3: So we find that if we're able to use your

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own bodies tissue, we're able to do better.

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Speaker 8: Usually that's coming from either your hamstring, the pateeller ten

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or the quad ten and those the big three that

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were typically using.

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Speaker 3: You'll talk to different guys.

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Speaker 8: That's always a debate in our circles which one's better,

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you know, And there's some reasons why each one probably

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has favorability over the other.

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Speaker 3: You know, one might be a little more.

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00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 8: Durable, one might get you back a little quicker, you know,

475
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,759
And we can sit here and have a whole scientific

476
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:29,839
discussion on which is better. That could last days and

477
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,720
probably not determine it to everybody's satisfaction. But the reality

478
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,039
of it is, what we found is that using your

479
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:39,359
own tissue typically goes better. And then those techniques for

480
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,240
how we get that, you know, going in and harvesting,

481
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,200
because if we're taking a portion of your Beteller tendon, well,

482
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,799
not only does that ACL have to heal, but that

483
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,960
Pteller tendon has to heal. You might have p Teller

484
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,039
tendon I has problems down the road and things like that,

485
00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:50,839
So we got to be really careful with how we're

486
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,519
harvesting it. But I think a lot of it is

487
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,240
we've learned the perfect amount to take, the perfect place

488
00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:56,720
to put it, you know, where do you put the

489
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,680
tunnel on the bone. There's so many different variables that

490
00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:01,000
go into it, and I think when once we've kind

491
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,640
of researched it and gone back and been critical of

492
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,240
our own work, we've been able to get to a

493
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:07,480
pretty good point, but it's still a hard surgery.

494
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: Now, Doctor Arthurage, obviously we we you know, we can't

495
00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:14,000
talk LSU injuries and that's the team that you work

496
00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:16,680
with there, and we're not going to get into any injury.

497
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,079
Speaker 3: I'll just ask you one question I think you can answer.

498
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 4: Have you ever had to explain what tendonitis was to

499
00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:24,960
more people over a short period of time?

500
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's for some strangeries and have been an interesting

501
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,559
topic lately.

502
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, tendonitis.

503
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 8: And it's funny because you know my clinic, I tell

504
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,000
patients tendonitis is one of the you know.

505
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,759
Speaker 3: Quote unquote weird problems, you know.

506
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 8: Because you doesn't again kind of a turf tow It

507
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,400
doesn't sound that bad. It sounds like this kind of

508
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,160
mild little thing. But tendonitis, just like the turf toe injury,

509
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,000
there's a lot of different severity. It's it's a hard

510
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,279
injury sometimes to treat because the tendons don't have a

511
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,440
good blood supply. You know, I tell patient all the time,

512
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,799
if you ever look at a piece of steak, you

513
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:53,559
have this red piece of meat, but a portion of

514
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:55,880
it starts to turn white. Well that's the tendon because

515
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,920
of poor blood supplies. So that lack of blood supply

516
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,559
can make these injuries hard to heal. So so yeah,

517
00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:02,440
it's a it's a weird problem that that that has

518
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,680
a lot of variability. And and yeah, we've definitely been

519
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:06,400
been talking about a tendingapathy lately.

520
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

521
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I know we're not talking about anybody specific,

522
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,480
but y'all did a really good job of replacing Nuss's

523
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,000
leg when it fell offs ago. Yeah, a good job.

524
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,960
That surgery is quick, he was on the field, so

525
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:16,599
good job.

526
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and proud to be a part.

527
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 8: Of that year for sure.

528
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,279
Speaker 2: Really good job, good stitching. Uh No, So I've just

529
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:27,079
been curious over the last couple of years. I felt

530
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:29,759
like I went the first let's just say thirty five

531
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,200
years of my life maybe saw one athlete tearing achilles tendon. U.

532
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,279
It seems like there's ten a year now, Like what

533
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,000
is what? Why is there? Is it just something that

534
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,880
wasn't diagnosed in the past. It's better diagnosis of it

535
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,200
was it called something different back in the day. But

536
00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:49,359
why is there so many achilles injuries right now in sports?

537
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,039
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.

538
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 8: There does seem to be more you know, I don't

539
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,359
know for sure if there is or if it's just

540
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,599
something we're more aware of. That's always one of the questions,

541
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,000
and there is a lot of speculation.

542
00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:57,519
Speaker 4: You know.

543
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 8: Part of it is surface. You know, we always talk

544
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,200
about grass versus turf. Could that play into it? You know,

545
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,640
I'm not saying it does or doesn't, but it's something

546
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,799
that comes up a lot in our discussions. And then

547
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:09,079
and then I think part of it too. You have

548
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,759
you have guys that are bigger and faster and stronger.

549
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,559
I mean, I swear every year I see these guys

550
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,160
coming in and maybe it's just because I'm getting older

551
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,319
and smaller, but they look bigger and faster and stronger

552
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,640
every year. And and the thing is, you know, it's

553
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,559
all about physics. You put so much load on any structure,

554
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,839
eventually you're going to reach that peak. So if we're

555
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,720
talking about bigger and faster and more explosion, uh, you know,

556
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:30,839
sports have become more year round. If we look at

557
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,720
sports right now, they're training more and more. And while

558
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,279
that might make them bigger, faster, stronger, it's more wear

559
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:36,000
and tear as well.

560
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:37,759
Speaker 3: So I think it's probably all those things.

561
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if Kirk Cousins fits that mold though, yeah,

562
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,079
or Aaron Rodgers for that matter. Well was turf though,

563
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,839
So it was turf. It's interesting. It's wilds I mean,

564
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,400
have to we talked the Achilles. It's just it's so

565
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:55,319
crazy how they do to such a prevalent injury right

566
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,799
now everywhere. And I don't understand.

567
00:25:58,559 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 4: I don't.

568
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't ever remember hearing it when we were playing.

569
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,079
Speaker 4: Teammates.

570
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,559
Speaker 8: I don't remember a lot, you know. And again it's

571
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,000
it's it's maybe again. Maybe that's just the memory thing

572
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:11,599
not working as well. But uh, I'm with you on that.

573
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: All right, Doc, before we let you go. If you

574
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,279
don't know, Doc played football at Florida State. Florida State

575
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,119
didn't have a great year last year. They had two victories,

576
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,799
one against an FBS team opening up with Alabama. I mean, what, hey,

577
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:27,720
what a great way to get back on track. It

578
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:28,880
would be a great way. You know.

579
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,319
Speaker 8: I want to say I have confidence in my seminoles,

580
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,119
but in that one, you know, I'm just hoping for

581
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,680
a close, close game and hoping they do well.

582
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,839
Speaker 2: And it was. It was a rough year.

583
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,039
Speaker 4: It is a dope and they did. They upgraded dok

584
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,519
and they've got new facilities. Found No, Jimbo was was

585
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,559
screaming for That's really the reason he left and went

586
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:44,359
to Texas A and M.

587
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, the facilities needed an upgrade, and I'm glad to

588
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,000
see they're doing it.

589
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: I'll tell you it's it's a beautiful stadium.

590
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 8: If y'all never been, it's, in my opinion, I'm very biased,

591
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920
one of the prettiest stadiums.

592
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, I hope they have a good year.

593
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 8: Last year was rough, you know, a tailor two different

594
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,599
years the past couple but hopefully this will be closer

595
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,319
to two years ago.

596
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: College football's better in Florida State is at least sure, right, for.

597
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: Sure, Auburn tried to take away y'alls nineteen ninety three

598
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:11,000
national championship yesterday though, all right, good year by them. Yeah,

599
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,680
flor stay one at that year. But it sounds like

600
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,400
maybe Auburn thinks they did as well. Doctor Dwreds, We

601
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,319
appreciate it, man, It's always a pleasure.

602
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: My pleasure, thanks, doc. All Right, Well, they rate.

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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. It's off the

630
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:51,359
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

631
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 9: Min it's not my time.

632
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: It's not my time to.

633
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Know why there.

634
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: Now you're now your I don't.

635
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 9: Never, I'll never, says comes.

636
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: As Daniel Bassom says he on the body for chat.

637
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,559
Finally some bush tush. Finally, I'm just case that Bush push.

638
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,319
Speaker 5: I didn't even think about the Bush thing earlier.

639
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, be messed what we're talking about.

640
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: We're talking about the Reggie Bush Bush push push push.

641
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:43,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

642
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,759
Speaker 4: Then turned into because we're child.

643
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Because we're children with immature brains. You're welcome.

644
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,559
Speaker 4: Is what it is, is what it is.

645
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,039
Speaker 2: But we did bring some intelligence to this studio. It's

646
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:06,359
gone now God high intelligence. Shit, Thank doctor Ethartes. We

647
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,079
appreciate where you are going to try, depending on schedules

648
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,759
prevailing for him to make that a more common segment,

649
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,279
maybe a weekly segment, because we just find it fascinating

650
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,880
to we all hear the injuries, we talk about them.

651
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,480
We hear players all over the NFL with you know

652
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,319
there's something new that pops up every single year with

653
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,839
something happening. So we're gonna be able to get an

654
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:31,160
inside look from a doctor's perspective on an orthopedic and

655
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200
somebody that works with athletes on just taking a deep

656
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,880
dive and educating us all on the specifics of that

657
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,599
and the specifics for the treatment, the surgeries and what

658
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,440
they're actually doing. So it's really cool, really cool stuff

659
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,759
that he is he's willing to do that.

660
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: I like, I have heard turf toe, Like I've talked

661
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,400
about turf toe for a long time.

662
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,559
Speaker 3: That is the first time I actually know what turfoe is.

663
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was kind of just like a hangnail.

664
00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: I thought it was more like a big toe't sprain,

665
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,480
Yeah you know what I mean, till hurts, till hurts, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

666
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,799
you get ingro Ton there, But something on the turf No,

667
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,039
So I've got a different perspective on that. And uh,

668
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:14,319
hopefully we're gonna have doctor Ethrids join us on Wednesdays

669
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,319
and so any injury throughout the NFL any with obviously

670
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,680
the New Orleans Saints. Now again he knows LSU team doctor,

671
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:23,759
so we're not going to dive into LSU, but you know,

672
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,480
just injuries in general, like if you see them pop up,

673
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,559
we can talk through them, talk rehab process.

674
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

675
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:32,759
Speaker 4: Doctor Athridge was such a great asset for us. If

676
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:36,119
you remember when everybody was having tightrope surgery, remember two

677
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,880
talking about Loa had that in twenty nineteen. It was like,

678
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,759
wait a minute, what is this?

679
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,279
Speaker 2: And so like every year it's something new, like there's

680
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:47,720
some sort of injury or surgical technique that is the

681
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,079
hot technique, the tightrope man.

682
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:52,839
Speaker 4: I forgot about that one job because it was like

683
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200
nobody was like, we hadn't talked about it. Yeah, it

684
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
was something it was like high ankle's brain right, It

685
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:00,640
wasn't like a severe thing, but they did a pretty

686
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,400
severe surgery for a get fairly common injury. Yeah, that's

687
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,000
something's gonna keep you out, you know, maybe a couple

688
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,839
of months, maybe a month, maybe six weeks maybe yeah,

689
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,039
maybe four to six weeks and it got you back

690
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,759
in two to three Yeah. Yeah, So I.

691
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: Mean, is a juice worth a squeeze? I guess at

692
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,000
that point would be the question.

693
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: But you know, if it's your quarterback and you've got

694
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,839
national championship aspirations.

695
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I guess it is.

696
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: M two I got. I will do anything like old.

697
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:32,319
Speaker 3: Old Bud Kilmer.

698
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: You know he will.

699
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: He will do anything to throw a couple of passes

700
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,319
on Sunday. God bless him.

701
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: Toughness to a fault, which I appreciate.

702
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: I love it.

703
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: I love the fact.

704
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: But no, man, Coach Kilmer's got that needle.

705
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:54,279
Speaker 4: Keet that thing away from my knee before God.

706
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: That needle comes anywhere, nigger his knee, rip your arms

707
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,640
off and bait you over the handle them.

708
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: Why in the hell did you sound just like James Vanderbeek.

709
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,119
Aren't they have you seen this movie?

710
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,359
Speaker 2: Because I don't want your life? Oh that that was

711
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,599
actually scary. Oh that was actually Billy Bob who said that,

712
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,400
right p I.

713
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: Know, but you sounded just like James Vanderbeek.

714
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:27,759
Speaker 2: It's called the Oop, do you? Is it?

715
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: Mississippi Valley.

716
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,319
Speaker 2: The Valley scores forty points a game with the offense.

717
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do the Valley that they do. I wonder

718
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,599
if the Saints can get back either one of those

719
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,359
tight ends during the season. And when that's gonna be

720
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:47,319
I mean a cl It's not twelve months anymore, but

721
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,480
also like can you come back in nine? I don't

722
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,359
really know that information. It's a it's a position where

723
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,920
they needed some help.

724
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: Doctor said, it's tough, Like yeah, and I think it's

725
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,359
probably person my person, dude, and I I'd like to

726
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,720
get in like next time he's on about you know,

727
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,319
the what they're doing for recovery too, So like the

728
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,559
grafting and the techniques are a lot better. Certainly gets

729
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:09,920
you there a lot faster and it's not a career

730
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:14,360
ending injury situation anymore. But like the techniques because there's

731
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,239
stem cells technology, like there used to be PRP but

732
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,400
now it's more stem cells, Like how is that all?

733
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,199
And it depends on how your body accepts them, and

734
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,800
like it's just individualized so much. And and then the

735
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,559
physical therapy it's like how you know, how accomplished are

736
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,440
your pets and how quickly can they their program? But

737
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,239
it's it's you know, one guy, they might both be

738
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,400
in great shape, they might be doing the same things,

739
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,400
but one guy's body just responds to those stem cells

740
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,440
or p RP or whatever. It is a little bit

741
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,480
more like what you know, I don't even talking medical stuff,

742
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:49,760
but you get it.

743
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: Doing a great job.

744
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: You get it. I have stems, thank you, white blood cells.

745
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: What he's talking about, and I do, Yeah.

746
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,039
Speaker 2: I just people don't think I do, so they're going

747
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,079
to discredit it. I had stem cells multiple times. They

748
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,639
actually stem cells gave me ten and nightis right here

749
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,360
my elbow. He talked about how the tendons don't get

750
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,079
a lot of blood flow, right, because I learned a

751
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:12,039
lot about that. Yeah, it gave me probably two to

752
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,880
three years extra stem cells and driving inland.

753
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: I when I first when we first started doing this here,

754
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,719
I guess twenty eighteen. I think it was the first

755
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,320
year we started doing hanging with us for that sur

756
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,119
Night sounds right. I don't know if you remember, but yeah,

757
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,960
we had we had a stem cell sponsor for a

758
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,920
little bit, and they did it on my knee like

759
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,400
full on, like took it from my love handles, did

760
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,280
the hole, spinning it up, put it in my knee,

761
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,119
And there was a like a big portion of my

762
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,000
life where I couldn't drive past like thirty minutes if

763
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:48,199
I s cruise control, cool, but I couldn't have my

764
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,280
foot on the pedal like on a road trip. Like

765
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,400
my knee had a Baker sist it would swell up

766
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,000
where it would just it would go to sleep and

767
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:56,840
you'd have to like hit it and I try to

768
00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:59,519
move it around, get some blood flowing. And man, I

769
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:05,119
had that procedure. No more trouble, it's no swelling. They

770
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:09,079
took it themselves. They got they extracted that from fat. Yeah, well,

771
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,000
I love handles. I mean I think it's you know,

772
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:11,800
well there's.

773
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 5: Different ways batteries and lose love handles at the same time.

774
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: Well, no, you don't lose them. Yeah, it's not like.

775
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah that much.

776
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sounds perfect. Yeah, they get it.

777
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:24,519
Speaker 4: And I mean, dude, I was in the office for

778
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:26,400
a morning. I mean I was there for like four hours.

779
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:30,159
And when I say, like I couldn't do anything without

780
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,440
my knee just like swelling and getting to a point

781
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,880
where it's like it felt like it was gonna pop.

782
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: And so you know, it is like its just like

783
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,320
you can't bend it.

784
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: It's so I'm a full believer in getting no for sure,

785
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,679
that does.

786
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,079
Speaker 2: I got my tenant I in training camp in Seattle,

787
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,639
and it was like debilitating path like I took a

788
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,000
you know, liver killing amount of anti inflammatories like to

789
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,840
practice and to be able to play right. So like

790
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,280
at the end of the year, I go to a

791
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,719
medical facility, a famous medical facility. I get like I do.

792
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400
I do the PT there, we do p r P,

793
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,519
and I don't throw for two months. I pick a

794
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,599
ball up and at that time, I like just getting

795
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:10,400
traded to Oakland. At the time I pick a ball up,

796
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,639
I throw it. It hurt the exact same amount. So

797
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,800
I leave. I come back to bat Ruge. I start

798
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,320
getting dry needling. I get introduced to stem cells, and

799
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,320
I got stem cells for the first time, like in

800
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,559
August in I'm middle of the training camp in Oakland,

801
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:26,119
and and it doesn't work at first, Like they have

802
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:27,440
to like they have to take over, they have to

803
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,920
be accepted, and they have to start doing making doing

804
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,199
their doing their magic. And so this stem cell came

805
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880
from the crown of my hip. So they extracted bone

806
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,760
mara out of the hip, spune around, got the stem cells,

807
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,639
and they mix it with your your your red blood cells,

808
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:44,079
your PRP. They put it back like right on the spot.

809
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:46,679
It was. It was a wild procedure too, because like

810
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
I hear the they're drilling into my hip, I'm you know,

811
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,119
I'm the lake for all this like you're seeing like

812
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,719
the they're doing it by ultrasound too, so they can

813
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,639
see where the needle's going in. I see like my

814
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:58,639
older nerve and I'm like, it's like so close to it.

815
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:00,000
I'm like, please don't hit up, Please don't hit up.

816
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,559
That would be awful.

817
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be real bad if you didn't have any

818
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,760
feeling in your fingertails.

819
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,639
Speaker 2: So they're like, Okay, this is gonna take you know,

820
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,079
eight to eight to twelve months to ever like to feel,

821
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,159
or eight to twelve weeks or something like that to

822
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,440
start feeling effect. Maybe six to ten something like that. Well,

823
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:21,360
I didn't feel any relief. But two months later I'd

824
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
been released from Oakland Yea, gone to Buffalo and I

825
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,679
got back to Green Bay that time period, my two

826
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,159
weeks in Buffalo is started feeling better then I got

827
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,320
to when I got to Green Bay, hardly any pain

828
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:35,440
at all. Yeah, all pretty much gone, and then there's

829
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,559
a little bit there lingering. Went back and got another

830
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:40,880
round of it in the off season. I've never felt again.

831
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,920
Wow it. I would not if I didn't find that,

832
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,320
Like if I would have said, all right, the PRP

833
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
doesn't work. My treatment doesn't work. I'm at like this

834
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,360
big institution famous for being able to heal people and

835
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,760
treat people. It didn't do anything. Yeah, like what do

836
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,840
I do? I can't keep taking these anti flams like

837
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,360
I am.

838
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not healthy yeaing them like their tic TACs.

839
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:01,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

840
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: So they did, and then I played two or three

841
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,039
three more years. So were we year was up twenty

842
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,679
twelves when I got the ten and nightis originally no

843
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,480
it's still like played it was, but it like I

844
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,440
went to Oakland, huge effect on me, well because I just.

845
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 6: Remember when Peyton was having the stem cell therapy on

846
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,599
his neck.

847
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,199
Speaker 4: You had to go overseas that aint that was the

848
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,039
same time period.

849
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it said Peyton had it in eleven so

850
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,239
like but I remember they said it wasn't like super

851
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,119
readily available.

852
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: I mean the libraries that I was doing for this company,

853
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,519
like it was in the library, like you used to

854
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,760
have to go to like Germany for this, and then

855
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,639
you could do it in ban Aruge in twenty eighteen.

856
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,559
Speaker 2: So when I would when I got them, I flew

857
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,280
to Denver to get mine because there was in Colorado

858
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,119
you could do it from bone marrow, which is the

859
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:49,960
most effective one, at least at the time it was

860
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:54,079
or known to be. And what I heard, I don't

861
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,960
know if this is true. Never never asked questions, but

862
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,800
it was like this is These people are one of

863
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,639
the reasons why Peyton also kind of went to like

864
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:04,440
he had these that kind of treatment available to.

865
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: Him for his real quick before we take a break,

866
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:12,559
I think we have a new tagline for this show,

867
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,239
and it's thanks to our guy Scott Dyce inside to

868
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,480
buy you four chat. Okay, welcome to OTB where we

869
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,599
are made up of stem cells CTE and toward all.

870
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, and it was indocent

871
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:27,639
for me.

872
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: It was toward off for me. So you're on the

873
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,519
right track.

874
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,119
Speaker 4: You want to put that wear straight into the IV

875
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,960
before the game?

876
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead? Yeah, main vein that.

877
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: All right?

878
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: On that note, I can't beat that one more OTB

879
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,559
when we come.

880
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: Back off the bench.

881
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Sure, what's up, dude?

882
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 4: Dot org two two five nine two five eighty five

883
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,800
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884
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,000
holiday game day does not matter, if you have an emergency,

885
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,480
they will always be there, not only in central but

886
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:09,880
the greater baton Rouge Area two two five nine five

887
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,159
eighty five fifty two again is that phone number.

888
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:14,079
Speaker 3: Go to the website today. See what they can do

889
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:15,159
for you in the remodel game.

890
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: See if you can go tankless with that tankless water

891
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,440
heater Central Plumbing dot Org.

892
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, tankless means like that hot water never runs out

893
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,199
you never You can turn your faucet on and it's

894
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,519
not great for the environment, but like you can just

895
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:28,199
let it run for hours, it'd be hot the whole time.

896
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,760
Uh So, commercial residents, I'll tell you they did it

897
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,599
for us. They help our house twenty four to seven

898
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:37,800
emergency service, but they also completely outfitted our our manufacturer

899
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,880
facility over my eyes, so like they can do it

900
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,000
all big, small, no matter what it is. And again

901
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,199
emphasize twenty four to seven emergency service. Give them a

902
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,880
call or go see them. Central Plumbing Dot Org.

903
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven. Schamps Purple and Gold to the core.

904
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,880
This is off the bench with Hester and Flynn, Matt

905
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920
and Rouge's go to for all things Louisiana sports.

906
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:28,559
Speaker 7: Prush your hip back from your rise, but take you

907
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,480
down and let the river blow.

908
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,559
Speaker 5: Sometimes.

909
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,599
Speaker 4: All right, Welcome back Gano TV one of four five

910
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,320
ESPN Betters.

911
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,679
Speaker 3: Hey, where's our box? Oh uh, what'd you do with that?

912
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: Why'd you think Dr Radwis was gonna steal it? Some

913
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,719
pretty big cards in there. We got our the cards

914
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,639
that we've been talking about for a long time, some

915
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,719
of the month ago, the old big boys.

916
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: It's about a month ago. We sent off five cards.

917
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,039
It was our biggest cards that we had raw and

918
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:09,920
we sent them off to p. S A.

919
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,559
Speaker 3: And even it takes a month.

920
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,559
Speaker 2: Extra paid the extra for the expert that it took

921
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:18,840
a month. It's right here, big deal. We'll got that

922
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,360
beat right there. See this little cardboard box. So we

923
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,280
are going to actually open them. We're gonna do it

924
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,800
on the show. We're gonna give a little teas. We're

925
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,360
gonna make a video. What do you want to do?

926
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,280
M So we're gonna see what we got graded right here,

927
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:33,719
big boys.

928
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 4: We got two minutes. Can you do it in two minutes?

929
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:38,519
Speaker 2: The people need to know. We need to spend lots

930
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:44,119
of time on it. On our sports cards. Oh those

931
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:48,800
are sent to Dragon Yeah yeah, Dragon Flying domestic shipping.

932
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,159
Speaker 4: I've got to know like what the carrier like when

933
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:54,000
he's printing that off.

934
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,679
Speaker 2: He's like dragon. Uh his parents hate FedEx. Guy was like, hey,

935
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,400
you gotta get you for drag. Yeah, buddy, it's me.

936
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:04,119
Speaker 3: That's a self given nickname.

937
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: There, mister deliverer person of it.

938
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: Not on a birth certificate. Yours truly gave it to

939
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:12,760
yours truly. Yeah.

940
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,199
Speaker 4: The card grading stuff is it's fascinating to me just

941
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,360
with how much more value it can bring your card

942
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,840
or you know, honestly, if you get a bad grade,

943
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,360
like you can kind of keep it the same even

944
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,639
though you went through this entire process and sometimes like

945
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,679
even like keep it right at the raw number.

946
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a very interesting market because it is

947
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,880
not it's kind of like judging like a gymnastics me.

948
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,679
It's kind of like there's parameters you stay within, there's

949
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,199
things you look for, but at the end of the day,

950
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:43,440
it's kind of kind of somebody's opinion and there's a

951
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,920
big swing in value based on that final opinion. Right. Again,

952
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:50,159
there's parameters they work and know they're centering. There's edges

953
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:54,440
and corners. They're like things that are obvious but to

954
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:58,880
the naked eye, to these eyes, they should all be tense.

955
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,519
Speaker 3: They should all be billy about.

956
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: Oh, we wouldn't be sending them in if we didn't

957
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,159
think they were beautiful and perfect.

958
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is wild the amount, like certainly of bigger cards.

959
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,440
The bigger you get, the more it matters, like the

960
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,679
difference between a PSA nine and a PSA ten and

961
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,760
the value of that card, even though it's just.

962
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: One number away.

963
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,679
Speaker 4: It might be one little centering issues. Maybe it's just

964
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,360
like this one little small thing and what it does

965
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:23,960
to the value.

966
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: So we're all gonna find out if we hit the

967
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,440
big boy value. Oh, we just wasted our time and money,

968
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,880
which a lot of the card game.

969
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,119
Speaker 3: Is, and emotions and emotions and our emotions.

970
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,639
Speaker 4: We've got, would you rather Wednesday when we come back,

971
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,679
We've still got a deer Olandra, So go ahead and

972
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:46,639
get those deer Alandra. Dear Delandra questions in the bayue

973
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:48,800
four chat as well before you when we jump back

974
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,960
on OTV, off the bench and make the deer Delandra

975
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:56,039
good for the nine to fifteen segment, right, don't have

976
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,079
step into the dear Delandra. All right, give us some

977
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,280
good stuff because she's gonna have great music to go

978
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,119
with it. All right, it is always a good time

979
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,960
to go for dose. But what a great time it is.

980
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:12,599
Tailgating season is here. We have games this weekend. You

981
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,760
have an LSU game, not this Saturday, but next you

982
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,800
have a home game coming very soon. So when you

983
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,719
put up the tent, you put up the TV. You

984
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,440
have the ice chest ready to go. You need to

985
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,239
pack it with the best in the business and that

986
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,320
is dose Sechis. It is always, as we said, a

987
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,800
great time to go for dose.

988
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: And we tell you it's always a great time to

989
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,880
go to do sequis dot com as well. Put in

990
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,119
your info right there. But look, we live as Southweses

991
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:40,119
that everybody likes to have it cold pop. Everyone likes

992
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:43,920
to relax socially, hang out with your buddies, tailgate whatever

993
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,480
it is weekend, make sure you go for dose a cold,

994
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:50,079
delicious Mexican lager, whatever it is, get that green bottle

995
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,440
pop atop delete some Beerstreek response with