Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name
Speaker 1: is Tim Duckworth. What's going on, sir?
Speaker 2: I munch and done good. How about you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I mean a big hectic this morning,
Speaker 1: but that's understandable. You've got a new haircut. I know
Speaker 1: people can't see it, but those that join us at
Speaker 1: the WSP in what three weeks time, I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: see this.
Speaker 2: You need If it lost, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh, it should definitely last. I mean, you look like
Speaker 1: an idiot, but I think it looks it looks kind
Speaker 1: of great. You definitely look like you play Ossie rules football. Yeah, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if if you saw
Speaker 1: on social media, but like there's like this new sport.
Speaker 1: Have you seen this where basically two guys line up
Speaker 1: and they just run at each other a million miles
Speaker 1: an hour and basically kill each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's more rugby because whatever.
Speaker 1: Well it's that version of the like the slap.
Speaker 2: Like the slap. Yeah, it looks insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it looks absolutely wild. I mean these
Speaker 1: guys were forced. Yeah, but didn't you just play something.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna line myself up against a three hundred
Speaker 2: pounds samoan and try and knock him to the ground.
Speaker 1: Okay, but like when you go play, when you play
Speaker 1: Aussie Rules, so like, are there big ass people on
Speaker 1: the other side.
Speaker 2: Not as much as like a rugby is. It's more
Speaker 2: about this more speed and agility than anything. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: obviously some big guys, but they're not as effective in
Speaker 2: Aussie Rules. So I just try and run away from
Speaker 2: people and not get tackled. I don't like contact them
Speaker 2: a little bit of a baby, did you guys?
Speaker 1: I saw something on your Instagram some score that was
Speaker 1: absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, we crushed We absolutely destroyed Orange County
Speaker 2: Giants by ninety points, which.
Speaker 1: Is like, oh Orange County, huh, shout out producer Rich Ryan.
Speaker 1: He's to join the squad Orange County.
Speaker 2: Let's go look Orange County. Good bunch, a good bunch
Speaker 2: of blugs down there. So I might go play with
Speaker 2: them in a couple of weeks for the thing it's
Speaker 2: called the Sun Cup.
Speaker 1: If you and where was your team from?
Speaker 2: Basically, well, Vegas doesn't really have much of a team anymore,
Speaker 2: so I basically just an Arizona Hawk.
Speaker 1: Now, I would have bet lots of money on the
Speaker 1: Arizona Hawks versus something Orange County when it comes to
Speaker 1: Ousie Wilson, I mean it will wait. Orange County brings
Speaker 1: the heat and.
Speaker 2: There they've got some good players. But Hawks looking good.
Speaker 2: We're coming for the championship this year.
Speaker 1: All right, Well we're all over the place to start
Speaker 1: this part. Yes, but I mean I'll give you guys,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll peel back the curtain a little bit.
Speaker 1: Eight forty seven rolls around in the morning. It's it's
Speaker 1: Thursday morning, May eighth. I'm driving home, just picking up
Speaker 1: the coffees on the way home from dropping off the
Speaker 1: kids for the wife, and I Tim text me, are
Speaker 1: we still potting at nine? Immediately I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I forgot to finish the rundown of the topics. I
Speaker 1: like half did them, and then I kind of sketched
Speaker 1: them out the other day. I forgot got busy whatever.
Speaker 1: So Tim's like, well, what are we going to talk about?
Speaker 1: I mean, and then in my mind I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: if you're hitting me up thirteen minutes before showtime, you
Speaker 1: obviously have not prepared for the rundown. So it does
Speaker 1: not matter what I put on the rundown because you
Speaker 1: have not prepared. So we're just gonna hit on some
Speaker 1: general topics. We're gonna kind of bounce all over the place. Basically,
Speaker 1: we just want to talk to you guys, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's that's why we're here. You know, the dobasipy
Speaker 1: plus app. They announced kind of some some further solidified details.
Speaker 1: I know we hit on that last episode, but we'll
Speaker 1: you know, we'll hit on it again, and it is
Speaker 1: worth hitting on this multiple times because it is so
Speaker 1: important for the summer. You absolutely do need to have
Speaker 1: this app. So you know, we're going to probably drill
Speaker 1: at home with you guys, you know a few more
Speaker 1: times as we go. There are a couple updated WISIP
Speaker 1: rules that we want to touch on. Probably the most
Speaker 1: fun topic of this podcast, twenty five K fantasy. It
Speaker 1: is coming baby, and we are in the dance once again,
Speaker 1: well hopefully, but I'll talk about that when we get there.
Speaker 1: Our old friend, Poker's old friend, Aliam Siirrovich is in
Speaker 1: the headlines. I definitely want to hit on that. And
Speaker 1: then just a couple of news items as it relates
Speaker 1: to some online poker stuff here in the US that
Speaker 1: I'll quickly touch on as we go. So that's going
Speaker 1: to be the show today, and then I don't know,
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Speaker 1: Google Play. So the WSB plus app is going to
Speaker 1: be mandatory to play poker this summer. You must have
Speaker 1: the was B plus app, You must get an account,
Speaker 1: and then you can register for ANYBASIP event through the app.
Speaker 1: You're also still gonna need the Caesars Rewards cards. So
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're out there now and you're
Speaker 1: planning on playing the Wasp, you can just download the
Speaker 1: app to your phone right now. I know Tim has it,
Speaker 1: I know I have it. You know, plenty of people
Speaker 1: have already done it. You can kind of go through
Speaker 1: the initial process of things, maybe poke around a little bit,
Speaker 1: see what's in there, and then once you get to
Speaker 1: the property in Vegas, if you don't have one already,
Speaker 1: you can pick up a Caesar's Reward card and then
Speaker 1: there's gonna it's gonna prompt you in the app at
Speaker 1: some point when you go to register for a tournament,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to enter that and link it. So
Speaker 1: so that's gonna happen. So so make sure you're prepared,
Speaker 1: don't you know, show up to the counter or whatever
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, do you have the app? And
Speaker 1: you say, oh no, what's that? Don't do that. Don't
Speaker 1: be that guy or gal. This replaces Bravo Poker Live.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing no more kiosks at the series, you know,
Speaker 1: So I guess could just quickly as as a side topic,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, tim but Bravo Poker.
Speaker 1: Bravo released the thing saying like they're gonna update all
Speaker 1: their stuff. Oh and listen, you know I've said it before.
Speaker 1: It's about freaking time, man. That I mean, that is
Speaker 1: like the most archaic thing I've ever seen in my life. Now,
Speaker 1: of course it's it did help at the summer, you know,
Speaker 1: like being able to like just put the ticket in
Speaker 1: and like whatever. I mean. So, yeah, so I'm looking
Speaker 1: at some their the Bravo Poker Live Twitter slash x
Speaker 1: account right now.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Just kind of funny is that this graphic also looks
Speaker 1: very old and archaic. I feel like if you were
Speaker 1: moving to update everything, you would splurge on a graphic designer.
Speaker 1: So the graphic looked up to date as well.
Speaker 2: But they did.
Speaker 1: They did say We're thrilled to share exciting updates coming
Speaker 1: soon too, Bravo Poker Live. Thanks for your feedback. We're
Speaker 1: adding new features upgrading our platform to make your experience
Speaker 1: faster and seamless. Then they put a couple of bullet
Speaker 1: points of what to look forward to new look and
Speaker 1: feel for the Bravo Poker Live app, tournament registration functionality,
Speaker 1: within the Bravo Poker Live app, improved dashboard to manage,
Speaker 1: manage and fund your Bravo tbic account, and then enhanced
Speaker 1: waiting less sign up with mobile checking and push notifications.
Speaker 1: So I'll say that this isn't only because of what
Speaker 1: WSP is doing with WSP plus app. I would also
Speaker 1: say this is because of Poker Atlas right. Poker Atlas
Speaker 1: is definitely out there, so you know, I mean, the
Speaker 1: timing could be somewhat coincidental that this dropped in light
Speaker 1: of all the news coming out about the WSP plus app,
Speaker 1: but I would bet that this has been in the
Speaker 1: works for a little bit, and it's funny. One of
Speaker 1: the first comment rule of first, how is your company
Speaker 1: so absolutely terrible at graphic design?
Speaker 2: Lo o L. I'm reading this comment, when does registration
Speaker 2: open for WSP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they didn't get the message. That's kill Billy g.
Speaker 1: We should just fire him a message and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need the WSP plus app, buddy. But listen,
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is why you know when
Speaker 1: I say things like we need like another online poker
Speaker 1: operator here in Nevada, stuff like that, it's because competition
Speaker 1: is good. Competition forced you to improve, to advance, to update.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we've talked about how the Bravo Poker
Speaker 1: Live app is. I feel like they launched it whenever
Speaker 1: they launched it, and it had never been updated since,
Speaker 1: you know. So finally it's going to get updated. So
Speaker 1: you know, now, of course we'll we'll, we'll poke around
Speaker 1: in it, we'll see how it is when when the
Speaker 1: updates come, you know. But that's at least a good
Speaker 1: thing that they're you know, they got a little kick
Speaker 1: in the butt to actually move things forward. So that's
Speaker 1: a side topic there with all of this. But back
Speaker 1: to the WSP plus app. So it is mandatory, as
Speaker 1: I said, you know, just download that to your smartphone
Speaker 1: device iOS or Android. You can find it in the
Speaker 1: various stores there. It's all going to be linked via
Speaker 1: what they call a GG pass account. Basically you're gonna
Speaker 1: have one like log in across all the different GG
Speaker 1: poker things, at least as it pertains to me here
Speaker 1: in the US, like poker Steak, which is owned by
Speaker 1: GG Poker, I use the same log in there. That's
Speaker 1: poker steak dot com where you can sell action and
Speaker 1: end by action as well. Also on Club GG, same
Speaker 1: log in there. Now for the WSP plus app going
Speaker 1: to be same log in there, I would imagine for
Speaker 1: those of you in the rest of the world, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing for GG Poker online, right, So all that's
Speaker 1: going to kind of be rolled in together. So if
Speaker 1: you have a GG pass account, that's what you'll log
Speaker 1: in with. If not, you'll have to create a new account.
Speaker 1: Then you pick your event, you're gonna have to connect
Speaker 1: your Caesars reward number as I mentioned, and then you
Speaker 1: can purchase your tournament ticket. Just reading through a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff on social media, mostly coming from Kevmath,
Speaker 1: shout out to Kevmath for all the work he does
Speaker 1: and answering the bazillion questions that people are firing his way.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like everything's just going to be
Speaker 1: in the app. You know, like you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go basically get it verified and whatever to put money
Speaker 1: in like one time, get your ID verified in all
Speaker 1: of that, and then once you do that, you can
Speaker 1: just click a bunch of buttons in the app. You know,
Speaker 1: that's where your tournament ticket's going to show up, with
Speaker 1: your table and seat. That's where if you're an alternate.
Speaker 1: It's gonna I would imagine it's probably gonna ping you,
Speaker 1: you know, at some point, but like, hey, your alternate
Speaker 1: one fifty four, Maybe it tells you to go to
Speaker 1: a late REGs table. Maybe it just it's all through
Speaker 1: you know, push notifications. It says, hey, you know, your
Speaker 1: table and seat is ready to go here, So that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. It's also going to be stuff, as
Speaker 1: we talked about in the last episode, where you can
Speaker 1: find the tournament clock, you can find various information on
Speaker 1: the events. So I think it's certainly a welcome addition
Speaker 1: to the DOUBSIP. It's gonna make things much more efficient,
Speaker 1: at least that's how it should operate in theory. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be some kinks to work
Speaker 1: out at the beginning. You know, I know that they've
Speaker 1: had it in the Bahamas for the past two years.
Speaker 1: The Bahamas is not Vegas. Vegas is fifteen x the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting right
Speaker 1: from the jump to see what sort of you know,
Speaker 1: kinks they have to work through. Because that first day
Speaker 1: is day one A of the Mystery Millions, and we
Speaker 1: know that thing gets eighteen twenty thousand people, so that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun one. One interesting thing that I
Speaker 1: saw when I was playing around with the wasp plus
Speaker 1: app is you can buy multiple tickets to an event.
Speaker 1: Now two things here is that one. I think they
Speaker 1: need to fix it because you can buy multiple pents
Speaker 1: for literally at least you can click the button like
Speaker 1: to go up to like I was able to click
Speaker 1: nine for the Dovaspy main event, and then you click
Speaker 1: purchase and it's like, okay, you own ninety thousand dollars. Well,
Speaker 1: we obviously know that that one's a freezeout, so that's
Speaker 1: gonna be one one update they're probably gonna want to
Speaker 1: do in these next couple of weeks so that you
Speaker 1: know freeze outs are freeze outs, other ones or whatever.
Speaker 1: But listen, I do like the fact, and I always
Speaker 1: wondered in the past when I go up to play
Speaker 1: let's say the Colossus, why can't I just buy three tickets? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if I don't use them, okay, then it's on
Speaker 1: me to go refund them. But and then you could
Speaker 1: also have it in a thing where it's like okay,
Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't, go get them refunded
Speaker 1: by X date. Let's say it's December thirty, first, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five at any sort of Caesar's property or whatever. Well,
Speaker 1: then you're just shit out of luck and you lost
Speaker 1: your money. I mean, who cares that? I always thought
Speaker 1: that would be a lot better instead of, you know,
Speaker 1: constantly having to go back to the cage. So this
Speaker 1: it appears like you are able to buy the multiple tickets,
Speaker 1: which would be cool. You know, I would certainly like that.
Speaker 2: Well, the fact that it's anya fine now it kind
Speaker 2: of you know, we don't really need to go line up, right,
Speaker 2: So you don't really need to buy multiple bullets in
Speaker 2: advance because you can buy while busting. True, that is
Speaker 2: very could actually just buy it? Well what else the river?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well what I was thinking is, you know,
Speaker 1: if you buy them in advance, are you like higher
Speaker 1: up on the alternate list? Oh? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it would essentially if I if I were to
Speaker 1: buy tickets today and no one else has bought tickets
Speaker 1: to Mystery millions. Okay, I'm let's say I buy two tickets,
Speaker 1: I go in, I bust now while I'm playing. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like a a like a tournament or sorry,
Speaker 1: a cash game sign up list where you know, I
Speaker 1: put my name, let's I call in, right, I put
Speaker 1: my name in, and my name is at the top, right.
Speaker 1: But if I'm not there, it just rolls it. So
Speaker 1: like if I'm still in the tournament and I don't
Speaker 1: use that ticket, like if I if I did purchase
Speaker 1: that ticket, I'm technically alternate number one. But if I'm
Speaker 1: still in the tournament or I don't like click like
Speaker 1: you know, accept or go play or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: Whatever that mechanism is, it just kind of rolls me,
Speaker 1: and it keeps rolling me. But the fact that I
Speaker 1: did purchase it so early, you know, you would think
Speaker 1: that you would stay kind of towards the top, right
Speaker 1: that that that was my thinking behind it. So I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, Like I still think it's going
Speaker 1: to be extremely efficiently. You're literally you're gonna bust, You're
Speaker 1: gonna click a few buttons on your phone, you're gonna
Speaker 1: fire back in boom. But I was thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: if you did purchase things ahead of time, then you
Speaker 1: you know, you get up to that alternate list a
Speaker 1: little bit higher. So that was that was my thought there.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's one of the things that I'm
Speaker 1: going to be and I'm assuming everyone's going to be
Speaker 1: kind of keeping an eye on you know, how does
Speaker 1: it work?
Speaker 2: I am like, go ahead, No, I have a question.
Speaker 2: I'm hypothetically trying to buy into the Mystery Millions right
Speaker 2: now click register, and then before I purchase my ticket,
Speaker 2: it says, please note that you must register for this
Speaker 2: tournament yourself after purchasing the ticket. What does that actually mean?
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?
Speaker 2: Is there one more step we need to do? Or like, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we keep discussing this. We've talked to people,
Speaker 2: They're going to give us our table and seat. But
Speaker 2: then I don't understand this, like no, that we must
Speaker 2: register the to one of me yourself.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's because you haven't verified like your
Speaker 1: ID and stuff yet, Like you haven't done the one
Speaker 1: time like put your money in, like get your idea verified,
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff ahead of time.
Speaker 2: Like because I've only done two of the three steps
Speaker 2: for verification because the other one third one is on site.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, that maybe that maybe that's a but
Speaker 2: it would be silly, you know that if we barth
Speaker 2: of this app, we buy it, and then we still
Speaker 2: have to go, you know, do one more step check
Speaker 2: in somewhere. Hopefully they can just send us, you know,
Speaker 2: your yellow section table seventeen, seat four. That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another thing I'm curious about, just being like the
Speaker 1: the I guess kind of nerd I am about this
Speaker 1: sort of stuff is I feel like the entire Divisity
Speaker 1: schedule was completed before they knew that Doviasity Plus was
Speaker 1: going to be available to them. And I say that
Speaker 1: because and I'm sure there's people out there who have
Speaker 1: worked with apps, who have worked with websites, whatever it
Speaker 1: may be, that your dev team can tell you everything
Speaker 1: is load tested until it actually gets tested. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember, like years ago going into the World Series
Speaker 1: of Poker when I was running the Poker News team.
Speaker 1: The first one of the first events was that forty
Speaker 1: K anniversary Nolamit hold Them event, and it was like, No,
Speaker 1: our website's ready, our websites' ready because we had just
Speaker 1: done a bunch of new stuff for the website. No,
Speaker 1: the website's ready, the website's ready, the website ready. Boom,
Speaker 1: website crashes Like in the first hour because you can't
Speaker 1: actually predict it like you can try. You can throw
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff at it in this sort of
Speaker 1: you know, staging development world, but you can't ultimately be
Speaker 1: prepared for that day one. And why say that is
Speaker 1: like if you knew that do wasit plus app was
Speaker 1: coming to Vegas and the load that's going to be
Speaker 1: on it, would you actually start the dowicip with the
Speaker 1: Mystery Millions? Wouldn't you kind of be like, We're gonna
Speaker 1: start Day one is going to be the employees event
Speaker 1: and that five k opener, and then day two, day three,
Speaker 1: that's when Mystery Millions starts because at least you get
Speaker 1: a test on the first day of you know, probably
Speaker 1: one to two thousand people instead of five to six
Speaker 1: thousand people possibly, right, So that's you know, that's just
Speaker 1: a little interesting nugget there. Now I'll also say this,
Speaker 1: we gotta bear with the DOUBSIP and GG Poker and everyone.
Speaker 1: This is ultimately going to be a very good thing
Speaker 1: for the series. I fully believe that it's going to
Speaker 1: make things way way way more efficient. It's going to
Speaker 1: make the process way way way better. You know, of course,
Speaker 1: there are going to be some quote unquote growing pains
Speaker 1: with things as as you know, one everyone gets used
Speaker 1: to it. Like, there's probably going to be lines initially
Speaker 1: because you're going to have people that are coming to
Speaker 1: the WSB that need to go and do the whole
Speaker 1: ID verification and funding of the accounts like in person. Yes,
Speaker 1: but then after that it should be extremely streamlined. Right,
Speaker 1: So again, just you know, bear with every everything as
Speaker 1: much as possible because ultimately, you know, as the summer
Speaker 1: goes on, this is only going to improve and it's
Speaker 1: going to get better. It is going to be a
Speaker 1: very very good thing. And then in years to come,
Speaker 1: you know, in future summers, this is going to be
Speaker 1: a big benefit. And it's also something where I would
Speaker 1: imagine other operators take on a similar sort of path.
Speaker 1: You know, I know, Tim, you and I have already
Speaker 1: heard the There are various other operators we won't name names,
Speaker 1: but you know they've been poking around being like, hey,
Speaker 1: we should have this too. So yeah, there's that. I know,
Speaker 1: Poker Stars has the Poker Stars Live app, and outside
Speaker 1: of the US, you know, it works very similar to this.
Speaker 1: In the US. There's of course, all the the issues
Speaker 1: you and I did the whole Resorts World NAPT thing,
Speaker 1: and that was kind of like, well, what's the point
Speaker 1: of the app if I have to go stand in
Speaker 1: seventeen different lines and get eighteen different tickets and you know,
Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff. But again, maybe this is
Speaker 1: like this prompt Resorts World and the NAPT with Poker Stars,
Speaker 1: which is coming back at the you know, in the
Speaker 1: second half of this year to kind of streamline that
Speaker 1: that process. So all in all, I think this is
Speaker 1: a very good thing, and it's going to you know,
Speaker 1: if if this is the only like noticeable change. I
Speaker 1: know people have thought since it was announced that gigipover
Speaker 1: acquired the w SP that you're gonna like walk into
Speaker 1: Paris Horseshoe and it's going to be like a complete
Speaker 1: different thing. If if everything is the same, but this
Speaker 1: is the only change, it's a massive win. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like so I just want to make that clear, and
Speaker 1: it's very cool. And listen again, if you are out there,
Speaker 1: if you're in Vegas, I would try and get this
Speaker 1: this stuff done early. You know, is there like a
Speaker 1: date when you can already can you go down there today?
Speaker 2: No? May fifteenth, I believe is the first thing.
Speaker 1: Well, that gives you essentially two weeks yeah ahead, So
Speaker 1: I would, you know, go down there, like get to
Speaker 1: get this stuff in order, Like you don't want to,
Speaker 1: you don't want to show up May. What is it
Speaker 1: May twenty seven, May twenty eighth, and there's that massive
Speaker 1: line of all the people wanting to play the mystery, Like,
Speaker 1: so go down there and get this stuff done. I
Speaker 1: think you and I will obviously try and do that.
Speaker 2: I uh, I'm just kind of playing around with the app,
Speaker 2: and I went to my much. You know, you can
Speaker 2: make your own story in the app. It's basically kind
Speaker 2: of like a Twitter feed. So I posted something the
Speaker 2: other day. You know, you can kind of post updates
Speaker 2: in the event you are asking questions. I don't know
Speaker 2: who's really going to respond to you, but when you
Speaker 2: click you know, your story or your profile page, there's stats.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously this says for me, this player has
Speaker 2: no data. I'm assuming people that have used this or
Speaker 2: you know, have a GG proger account, we'll have some
Speaker 2: data there. So you know, once I bust the colossus
Speaker 2: in the first level, that's probably going to say zero
Speaker 2: from one. It's got my first story. But then the
Speaker 2: third tab staking you know, it says my staking well
Speaker 2: has a typo there, but staking statics. I'm assuming that's
Speaker 2: supposed to be statistics. But it also has my purchase history.
Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of interesting that you know
Speaker 2: this is going to be kind of public. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what the the general public is going to think
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: Will that all be public?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm assuming you can. Well, let's check.
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can access someone else's story. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess you know, whether it's okay, I'm looking at
Speaker 2: this person. Yep, I clicked on t con two four.
Speaker 2: He has a story that says will Stacks be blinded off?
Speaker 2: He's got a response there from someone kep Math should
Speaker 2: be in this app responding to everybody. But if I
Speaker 2: click staking, it says no staking information.
Speaker 1: Nowhere are you looking? By the way?
Speaker 2: Okay, so are you on the app? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I click on my profile, click.
Speaker 2: On your profile, then click on my story. Got it,
Speaker 2: and then you'll see the three tabs. Now, that person
Speaker 2: I just clicked on maybe he's never bought anything on
Speaker 2: poker Steak or that maybe it is public. But I'm
Speaker 2: just that's that's interesting, whether it's whether it is public's
Speaker 2: pretty cool or if it's just private. I guess we'll
Speaker 2: find out as the kind of series kicks off.
Speaker 1: Also, you would you would think that the the stats
Speaker 1: tab they would just populated with all like past data, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, now that you own the WSB brand, right,
Speaker 1: you should you should just basically import that data, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you have it all there. So like if
Speaker 1: I were to go into let's say, Daniel lagron Is,
Speaker 1: I could see, like, you know, he's got seven bracelets,
Speaker 1: he's won this many millions, you know, this many cash is,
Speaker 1: like all all that sort of stuff. I think you
Speaker 1: would you would put that in there butt you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's one of those like this is version one
Speaker 1: of the app, you know, where you're going to get
Speaker 1: version you know two, whatever, et cetera. It's going to
Speaker 1: go like that. So so yeah, I also wonder if
Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned the story section, you know, and
Speaker 1: it prompts you in here it says, how's the tournament going?
Speaker 1: Is this going to be similar to like the Poker
Speaker 1: News my stack where can you can I enter just
Speaker 1: like just my chip count? And then it feeds into
Speaker 1: let's say the WSP dot com reporting. You know how
Speaker 1: is that going to work? You know, you and I
Speaker 1: have both heard that they're exploring talking to different reporters.
Speaker 1: So is the plan to ultimately take all the reporting
Speaker 1: in house? I mean, how is that going to work?
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's definitely there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: breadcrumbs that are out there.
Speaker 2: I don't think you've got to do your your chip counts,
Speaker 2: but I think it's more they want kind of people
Speaker 2: posting in a way my stack, but like without the
Speaker 2: chip count so posting questions, posting photos, you know, generating
Speaker 2: a bit of kind of content through the app, and
Speaker 2: like you can already see if you kind of you know,
Speaker 2: there's hashtags. There's for different events, as there's an overall
Speaker 2: WSP hashtag. You know, there's people can kind of browse
Speaker 2: the feed. You know, the post I had last week
Speaker 2: has a couple of thumbs up, a couple thumbs down.
Speaker 2: Quite rude. But I think that's kind of the goal.
Speaker 2: Whether we can put in counts, I'm not sure is
Speaker 2: good because I think, you know, we've both experienced firsthand
Speaker 2: the issues of my stack abuse.
Speaker 1: And I think my stack is goaded.
Speaker 2: No, I do too, But like I guess the only
Speaker 2: issue with my stack. Is is the abuse and you know,
Speaker 2: being able to put yourself at a million chips in
Speaker 2: the first level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the abuse has actually been nullified,
Speaker 1: Like it's not really a thing anymore. I mean only
Speaker 1: was a thing for sure, But I think it's gotten
Speaker 1: much better now, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I clicked this little story's button.
Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of people in They're asking questions
Speaker 1: or they're just chatting or whatever the heck. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's essentially like a Twitter feed, but within this app.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna see if I can tag a play
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna make a post right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: I also I can tag, Oh, I can tag players?
Speaker 2: Can I tag you? What's your name on this? Donald?
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. So I go into my profile
Speaker 1: and at the top left, I'm g g six space AJJ.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many hell is that? Okay, mine's Timothy Duckworth.
Speaker 2: So how many ratification steps have you done?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So if I click on that, it says this
Speaker 1: is it says what is this idea? You must be
Speaker 1: a registered WSP player to participate in all wa Spy
Speaker 1: related competitions whatever, Like you know, the idea is the
Speaker 1: wsp player ID automatically generated when signing up for the app.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting is I mean, I feel like they
Speaker 1: should have my stuff on file because if I go
Speaker 1: to my story and then I click my staking, like,
Speaker 1: I have a whole bunch of staking stats from my
Speaker 1: time on poker Steak, like events sold one oh two,
Speaker 1: number of investors six seventy three, current available steaking seven,
Speaker 1: So like, you know, I have a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: in there. So I feel like this should already just
Speaker 1: be tied in. I also don't like, and this is
Speaker 1: also something that I didn't like with poker Steak is
Speaker 1: that when you do sign in with your your GG pass,
Speaker 1: it gives me at least my name that I have
Speaker 1: on the club gg app, which is Daisy Duke, which
Speaker 1: is after my dogs. But like, why why can't it
Speaker 1: be Why shouldn't it be a photo of me and
Speaker 1: my name?
Speaker 2: It is? That's what mine is, minds me and a
Speaker 2: cowboy hat and my.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine, mine's mind's the picture of a dog and
Speaker 1: it's a Daisy Duke.
Speaker 2: Go to profile that you can have display name or nickname.
Speaker 2: Nickname would be Daisy Duke. Real name would be Don Repeats,
Speaker 2: And you can change the photo right there, and I
Speaker 2: changed the photo. I went to my display name because
Speaker 2: I'm assuming when let's say we both play the mistream millions, right,
Speaker 2: mine would say have a photo of me and have
Speaker 2: Timothy Duck with you, alas would have a picture of
Speaker 2: a dog and Daisy Duke. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it should just default to real name.
Speaker 2: I think it should, but maybe there's maybe some legal
Speaker 2: reasons why it's you can get to choose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, legal All right, we've done enough going through
Speaker 1: this app. But I mean you guys should do basically
Speaker 1: what Tim and I just did is play around with it.
Speaker 1: That way, you familiarize yourself with the app. You're ready
Speaker 1: to go for the summer. The more people that you
Speaker 1: know are up to speed with how the app operates
Speaker 1: and all that already have it on their phone, et cetera,
Speaker 1: the faster the entire summer process is going to go
Speaker 1: for everyone. So my recommendation is to get the app,
Speaker 1: play around with it a little bit. Of course, if
Speaker 1: you have any questions. I mean, he gets blown up
Speaker 1: a lot, but probably hit up keV Math on Twitter
Speaker 1: or just you know dump it in the app app,
Speaker 1: as is evidence by the fact that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of questions in the app already. That's another thing,
Speaker 1: by the way, they should they definitely.
Speaker 2: Need a dedicated support.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there needs to be somebody in this
Speaker 1: app NonStop responding to these questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's just like basically every time it
Speaker 1: comes in, you know, a ticket needs to go through
Speaker 1: to whoever or somebody is just constantly in the app
Speaker 1: just you know, firing stuff away obviously. I mean that
Speaker 1: could be Kevi Math, yes, but it also should not
Speaker 1: be Kevi Math because he's doing a business business.
Speaker 2: I've seen I clicked a random story, I've seen him
Speaker 2: responding to someone's question. So he's in the app, but
Speaker 2: he is answering questions. Shout out to Kevi Math for
Speaker 2: double duty Twitter and WSPS.
Speaker 1: He should have an increased salary. I would hope if
Speaker 1: he's doing this and that keeping with the WSP, there
Speaker 1: are a couple of tournament rules that are new slash
Speaker 1: updated for twenty twenty five that we just wanted to
Speaker 1: hit on. The one that's being talked about the most
Speaker 1: is the one that has to do with electronic devices
Speaker 1: and what they're doing. How about this, I'll just read
Speaker 1: the rule, okay, and then we'll discuss. So, once participants
Speaker 1: have reached the final three tables in any tournament, all
Speaker 1: approved electronic devices must be removed. An announcement will be
Speaker 1: made to participants once they have reached the final three
Speaker 1: tables to remove all such electronic devices. Failure to do
Speaker 1: so will result in penalties up to and including disqualification.
Speaker 1: So this could be twenty seven players left, This can
Speaker 1: be twenty four players left, twenty one players left. It
Speaker 1: just depends what the tournament is, and then you're going
Speaker 1: to have to be electronic device less going forward. I
Speaker 1: find this a little bit interesting. I mean, on the surface,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a good thing, but I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: part of me is like, if you're if you're promoting
Speaker 1: people play all these WACIP online events, then what happens
Speaker 1: if somebody also makes the final three tables of a
Speaker 1: tournament while they're doing that? Yes, that is one thing.
Speaker 1: Another thing is like I just feel like, so, for example,
Speaker 1: are we gonna lose Daniel and the grandeou vlogs if
Speaker 1: he makes the final three tables of an event.
Speaker 2: It's him, They're gonna let me.
Speaker 1: But okay, but that's okay. That's a separate issue, is that,
Speaker 1: you know, doing something for something something for somebody else.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, I feel like this issue would
Speaker 1: be better solved if you just had dedicated floor person
Speaker 1: for the final three tables of a tournament, and then
Speaker 1: that person can essentially watch things, you know, like just
Speaker 1: make sure that people aren't on their phones on you know,
Speaker 1: the different solver apps or whatever the it is, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's what that's what this is geared towards, you know,
Speaker 1: getting rid of right. So so yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I still do feel like there is
Speaker 1: a bit of an overreaction from what happened at the
Speaker 1: Spin Event final table last summer with Jonathan Tomayo and
Speaker 1: Dominic Niche with the laptop on the rail sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: fully get it, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's good to they're trying to
Speaker 2: protect everybody, they're trying to protect players, completely get it.
Speaker 2: I think it's fine. We do some of this stuff
Speaker 2: in the studio, but the difference between the studio and
Speaker 2: the World Series of Poker is that it's our environment.
Speaker 2: We control everything, and it's much easier for us to
Speaker 2: execute World Series. We're gonna have three you know, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a tournament plane down at three tables. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be over in say the gold section. There's another table,
Speaker 2: you know, on the main stage. There's three of those.
Speaker 2: You know that who's taking the phones? Where we're putting
Speaker 2: the phones. There's a safety issue here with you know,
Speaker 2: people being able to access other people's devices, or are
Speaker 2: they going to just let the players kind of keep
Speaker 2: them in their pockets.
Speaker 1: Probably just keep them in their pockets. I would guess
Speaker 1: yea put out, it's just whatever.
Speaker 2: So then the other issue is obviously you have you know,
Speaker 2: people vlogging, you know, you have people. I just think
Speaker 2: it's going to be hard to manage. I think the
Speaker 2: motivation behind it is fine. How efficient or how effective
Speaker 2: the rule will be will be kind of a bit
Speaker 2: more up for discussion. Obviously, when we do film feature tables,
Speaker 2: we do take the phones, but that's from a couse
Speaker 2: of medic reason than anything.
Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting, just from a macro standpoint
Speaker 1: that everything in society has trained us to be on
Speaker 1: our phones like mobile first, right, including things like basically
Speaker 1: plus app, you know, doing the poker news my Stack app,
Speaker 1: and doing the live reporting like all that sort of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: you know, playing w CB dot com events on your
Speaker 1: phone on mobile, Like everything is is geared towards we
Speaker 1: are a mobile first society. So what I'm getting at
Speaker 1: is like I think people are just naturally going to
Speaker 1: pull their phones out of their pockets because that's just
Speaker 1: how they're They're like trained, like that's that you know,
Speaker 1: you just pull it out. You don't even realize that
Speaker 1: you just pulled it up, right exactly, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: can't you do things like if this is obviously geared
Speaker 1: towards the whole solver thing and using those sorts of
Speaker 1: programs and whatnot to gain an advantage? I mean, can't
Speaker 1: you just like geo blockgto wizard dot com.
Speaker 2: I'm just going.
Speaker 1: To have an app like you have to go to
Speaker 1: actual gto Wizard dot com Like that's how it works.
Speaker 1: So like, can't you just geoblock that website for in
Speaker 1: the Horseshoe and Paris?
Speaker 2: So yes, But here's the other issue, And I kind
Speaker 2: of had a long discussion with some of that plays
Speaker 2: about it is that, you know, if we're talking about cheating, obviously,
Speaker 2: the first way you cheat is okay. The second way
Speaker 2: you cheat is you're looking at these apps while playing poker. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's easy to outlaw you just no phones, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But then, well, are we taking away Apple watches too?
Speaker 2: The other part is that, okay, we're not taking away
Speaker 2: Apple watches or garment watches or any other smart device.
Speaker 2: You got those metaglasses. Now, how about you know you
Speaker 2: can still receive texts, you know, like people can text
Speaker 2: you charts or text you yes or no answers, So
Speaker 2: you know, you can step away from the table and
Speaker 2: say something like, you know, ace ten cut off seventeen
Speaker 2: bigs seven handed to your friend or your coach, who
Speaker 2: can then go access gtr wizard or whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: however they're looking whatever charts they're looking at, and just
Speaker 2: send you a text back that just says fold twenty
Speaker 2: eight percent. Right? Isn't that technically also cheating? I would
Speaker 2: say yes. So it's like, where do we draw this
Speaker 2: line with how to kind of protect and outlaw certain
Speaker 2: devices or certain things. And it's tough. I think it's
Speaker 2: way too It's way more complicated than people really want
Speaker 2: to think about. You know, they've just kind of slapped
Speaker 2: this rule up and think that covers everything. But I
Speaker 2: don't really think it does. And so for us in
Speaker 2: the studio, I'm kind of and I'm not the only one,
Speaker 2: like Paul, like the IRA people are also just kind
Speaker 2: of hands off because there's too much to this. There's
Speaker 2: too many levels to what players can do or what
Speaker 2: they really want to do if they had to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also just I mean, maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: a complete idiot and I'm naive, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been around enough poker, I've played enough poker that
Speaker 1: I just don't think solvers are actually an issue. Like
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, like, I like, no one is.
Speaker 1: I have I have yet to see someone. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: if somebody is on a solver in the middle of
Speaker 1: a hand at the WSP or at any tournament, Okay,
Speaker 1: I totally get it, but like that's the most obvious
Speaker 1: thing because they have to like have their phone in
Speaker 1: their hand, which is you can't have your phone in
Speaker 1: your hand when you have a lot anyway, Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you have a solver open, or if
Speaker 1: you're you know, talking to your wife about what dinner
Speaker 1: is later tonight, like it doesn't matter, you know, So
Speaker 1: like that is I think that solves that rule. Now,
Speaker 1: if somebody wants to look at a solver like in
Speaker 1: the middle of like after they fold a hand, how
Speaker 1: is that any different than when a golfer shoots a
Speaker 1: t shot and then discusses with his caddy what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do on the next shot, or gets up to
Speaker 1: the green and he spends fifteen minutes, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to look at the lay of the land to see
Speaker 1: how the ball is going to roll, and talking with
Speaker 1: his caddy and all this sort of like how like well,
Speaker 1: like I just I don't I don't really see that.
Speaker 1: I don't see the solver stuff as an issue. Now, Listen,
Speaker 1: there are other ways to get advantages, there are other
Speaker 1: ways to cheat, like that sort of stuff I understand,
Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff, of course needs to be
Speaker 1: addressed and ruled out. But as it pertains to the
Speaker 1: actual solvers, I don't know. I still personally feel like
Speaker 1: all of this and it's not just the WS beast off,
Speaker 1: it's everywhere. It's just a bit of an overreaction to
Speaker 1: the stuff that happened with Tomaiyo and Dominic Niche, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, what does it matter if like you're sitting
Speaker 1: across the table from me and you're looking at what
Speaker 1: to do with your ten big lines? I mean, like
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily maybe I just don't care that much
Speaker 1: about like what people are doing. And if I and
Speaker 1: I've been in a spot, you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, I remember pretty distinctly, I was playing the Colossus.
Speaker 1: This was like maybe the first year it moved a horseshoe,
Speaker 1: and the guy on my direct left was looking at
Speaker 1: a solver and this was obviously before all the solver
Speaker 1: stuff like really became like a hot issue, and he
Speaker 1: kept looking at it between hands. So in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, I have a decent idea of
Speaker 1: how these solvers operate because I look at them and
Speaker 1: try and study them. So I now know how this
Speaker 1: guy's gonna play. Like, so I know that he's got
Speaker 1: eighteen big blinds over there. If he three bet jams
Speaker 1: on me, his range is going to be probably pretty
Speaker 1: confined to X because he's just looking at a solver
Speaker 1: versus like if I'm looking at some guy who you know,
Speaker 1: just got off the horse rode in from Texas, shout
Speaker 1: out to all the cowboys out there, yourself included. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that guy could be shoving with
Speaker 1: you know, King Douce Off because he just looks at
Speaker 1: me and says, this kid doesn't have it, like you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I feel like it kind
Speaker 1: of goes both ways. I don't know. I just I
Speaker 1: feel like one side of the entire community wants to
Speaker 1: make poker like this, this elite mind sport. But then
Speaker 1: the other side of the community is like, no, you
Speaker 1: can't have the things that make it this elite mind sport.
Speaker 1: It needs to just be a peer to peer game.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm just the idiot on an
Speaker 1: island here and I'm just you know, I.
Speaker 2: Think we should want everyone to get better. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it helps the industry. I can
Speaker 2: see the arguments to it not helping the industry, but
Speaker 2: you know, people getting better, I think they're going to
Speaker 2: play more, events will keep growing, prize schools will keep
Speaker 2: going bigger. So I don't think we should be opposed
Speaker 2: to people wanting to improve, just like an athlete wanting
Speaker 2: to get uh, you know, a running coach or wanting
Speaker 2: to get a strength and conditioning coach. This is kind
Speaker 2: of a version of that.
Speaker 1: I also think along those lines that it's the way
Speaker 1: that we've as I'm talking like we as a community
Speaker 1: have gone about this entire issue. It's almost like when
Speaker 1: you see someone looking at a solver in a tournament,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that guy's a cheater. Like, no, he's
Speaker 1: not a cheater, Like he's he's he's Like it's like
Speaker 1: if you said this athlete is is going to do
Speaker 1: the bench press, you know, or he's doing some squats
Speaker 1: because he wants to like get better little lower by strength,
Speaker 1: Like no, in his in his downtime or whatever, He's
Speaker 1: not that's a cheating, Like, it's just he can actively
Speaker 1: working to get better. So like, don't don't classify these
Speaker 1: people as as cheats, which I think it's just very
Speaker 1: easy to to give that sort of characterization and that's
Speaker 1: not that's not how this should be.
Speaker 2: Everyone. The thing is everyone has access to gto wizard.
Speaker 2: They can go you know.
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing quickly? I know and
Speaker 1: it's not just now I'm just you. You said it,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna bring it up. It's we always default
Speaker 1: to gto Wizard. I think everyone does that, but it's
Speaker 1: it's not just gto Wizard. There are I'm always about there,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's not just like.
Speaker 2: So everyone can access off to the.
Speaker 1: First of all, apologies on behalf of the community, the
Speaker 1: gto Wizard, because I feel like they catch the brunt
Speaker 1: of a lot of this stuff because people are just
Speaker 1: like gto Wizard, G Wizard, GT Wizard when we should
Speaker 1: just say like solvers.
Speaker 2: Solvers, Yeah, solvers, chots, whatever it is. Everyone has the
Speaker 2: access to these. They can pay the subscription, pay the membership,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. You just have to put in the
Speaker 2: time yourself to to understand how to use it. Now,
Speaker 2: we've talked about poker and how you spend a lot
Speaker 2: of time trying to get better at poker. Me the
Speaker 2: complete opposite. Don't want to spend my time looking at charts.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to really judge anyone for doing
Speaker 2: that because that's my decision. If I really really cared
Speaker 2: about getting better and wanting to be some high stakes hero,
Speaker 2: I would spend the time looking at charts and understanding
Speaker 2: this stuff, but I don't. But everyone has equal chance.
Speaker 2: It's not like gto Wizard or op to Pipoker or
Speaker 2: run at Once is captive a certain amount of users.
Speaker 2: Anyone can go sign up to these sites. So just
Speaker 2: like anyone go lift a you know, lift a dumbella
Speaker 2: running outside.
Speaker 1: Going back to what we talked about the beginning of
Speaker 1: the episode Ozzie Rules Football, I know you have obviously
Speaker 1: taken a lot of like prioritization with your health and fitness.
Speaker 1: Anyone can do that when they go to play Ozzie
Speaker 1: Rules Football. People shouldn't show up to Ozzie Rules Football
Speaker 1: on Sunday or whatever the heck it is and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: Tim's cheating because he just bought a sauna and he
Speaker 1: has a personal trainer, and he has all this gym
Speaker 1: equipment and whatever. Like you said, everyone has access to
Speaker 1: that if you want to do that, like and just
Speaker 1: because Tim does that and now can outperform you on
Speaker 1: the field, doesn't mean Tim is now cheating. Like I
Speaker 1: just I just find it again a little bit weird
Speaker 1: that you know, we want poker to like grow and whatever,
Speaker 1: yet we just we kind of like we have these
Speaker 1: opposing things working against one another. Again, you know, poker
Speaker 1: is commonly equated to golf. Golf has caddies and you're
Speaker 1: constantly talking with your caddy in between shots and trying
Speaker 1: to figure stuff out and get tips and whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: Like on in regular sports, you have coaches who are
Speaker 1: helping you and talking to you and possibly calling time
Speaker 1: out and you know, being like, hey do this do that?
Speaker 1: Drawing stuff up on a board. Like you know, in football,
Speaker 1: the quarterback gets off the field and goes over and
Speaker 1: he's either looking at a tablet immediately or he's looking
Speaker 1: at printed pieces of paper that show what the defense
Speaker 1: was doing. Like, so, I don't know. I just don't
Speaker 1: think that the solver issue is really that big of
Speaker 1: an issue in live poker, you know, again, in the
Speaker 1: middle of a hand, like if I'm like pulling up
Speaker 1: my phone on the turn saying like, hey, this guy
Speaker 1: just bet twenty five percent, what do I do with
Speaker 1: this hand? I get it. That's completely not allowed. But
Speaker 1: that's also that's not allowed anyway, because you can't have
Speaker 1: your phone out period, like when you're doing that. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now you want to talk about online poker,
Speaker 1: completely different universe, and I think that stuff is much
Speaker 1: more important to be addressed there, Like it's just rampant
Speaker 1: in terms of what everything is happening now live. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just personally don't really see it that
Speaker 1: often in terms of it being a very bad thing.
Speaker 1: And again maybe I'm just a total idiot. And but
Speaker 1: just listen, don't have your phones out with three tables
Speaker 1: left in a tournament at the divsp'. That's the gist
Speaker 1: of this, bringing it back full circle. I also wonder,
Speaker 1: is I don't I didn't see it in the rules
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe I just missed it because I was
Speaker 1: kind of just skimming them. But is is this one
Speaker 1: of those things where you can like get up and
Speaker 1: move to Like if I want to get on the phone,
Speaker 1: can I like walk to somewhere?
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you can like step away from the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm just I know that I know that
Speaker 1: they have a similar rule, if not the exact same
Speaker 1: rule at WIN when you get down to the final
Speaker 1: three tables, like you can have your phone, but you
Speaker 1: can like get up and like go to the aisle
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, and then use your phone. You
Speaker 1: know that sort of thing. So I just find that's
Speaker 1: that interesting or what I'm assuming that would can Can.
Speaker 2: I listen to music?
Speaker 1: I would guess no.
Speaker 2: If but if my phone's away, right, I'm not touching
Speaker 2: my phone, I can still listen to music.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, But I mean that's going to.
Speaker 2: Be an issue because some people like need something in
Speaker 2: the ear and so that's just too bad.
Speaker 1: I actually think that like having headphones in is probably
Speaker 1: an easier way to do something nefarious than having your
Speaker 1: phone out. How do I if you have your iPods in,
Speaker 1: your ear pods in, how do how do I know
Speaker 1: you're actually listening to the music in your pocket or
Speaker 1: you're not just talking to some guy upstairs or on
Speaker 1: the rail, or like how do I know that? Like
Speaker 1: that's different?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like you can just be on mute,
Speaker 2: right or you know, yeah, or someone's talking to me
Speaker 2: or I'm on a FaceTime call. I think the biggest issue,
Speaker 2: and we've seen it a little bit in our studio
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering how to affect the World series is
Speaker 2: these new the new metaglasses that people wear where you
Speaker 2: can scan food and you can I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't think those should be allowed either.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the capabilities aren't, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: not to put anyone on the spot. Dane or Groundo
Speaker 2: has a pair he was using by the studio, but
Speaker 2: more for fun. He was like, how many calories is
Speaker 2: in this bag of nuts? And you know he he
Speaker 2: I think he brought up himself. He can correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong that. You know, these could be an issue,
Speaker 2: but he bought them for obviously, not to cheat them
Speaker 2: to like his life. And you know, I've seen other
Speaker 2: people wear them. I've seen some media people in the
Speaker 2: poker industry have a pair. I think they're kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I don't wear glasses, so it's not something I'm going
Speaker 2: to spend. Who knows how much they cost on. But
Speaker 2: that's I think the more of an issue than anything,
Speaker 2: because you know, you can I think you can bring
Speaker 2: up charts and videos on the screen so only you
Speaker 2: can see it. No one else could tell that. You know,
Speaker 2: you're watching something or looking at a chart or a
Speaker 2: solver or whatever. I think that's something to really watch
Speaker 2: out for and kind of keep your eyes on in
Speaker 2: the punt going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would specifically ban those those types
Speaker 1: of glasses. I don't think that they should be allowed.
Speaker 1: You know. Now I know somebody who has them might
Speaker 1: be like, well, they can just be sunglasses if I
Speaker 1: just turn them off. Well, you know, I'm not chattering those,
Speaker 1: you know any sort of like I mean smart classes
Speaker 1: is that what they're called. I don't even know, but
Speaker 1: those I would for sure just put like a one
Speaker 1: hundred percent ban on those. I would also I do
Speaker 1: like banning you know, headsets and and you know, music
Speaker 1: devices and stuff like that, you know, because again I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what's what's in them. You know what
Speaker 1: if you just make a track that's literally just you
Speaker 1: talking about tournament ranges on reports.
Speaker 2: Oh think of that. Yes, that is actually and.
Speaker 1: That's like you know that could happen. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: like it's like that's just ridiculous. So I would just
Speaker 1: again like you have to like there are certain things
Speaker 1: that yes, I think you're just like this is all
Speaker 1: banned over here, like you can't you can't use this,
Speaker 1: this and this like end of story, see you later.
Speaker 1: Like that's just how it is. And if you're somebody
Speaker 1: who you know, I would even go as far to
Speaker 1: say like okay, like let's say somebody shows up with
Speaker 1: those metaclasses and they are ultimately it's final three tables,
Speaker 1: So they're on a feature table. Let's say, and they say, well,
Speaker 1: I have this eye thing, I need sunglasses and whatever.
Speaker 1: If I'm the operator, I have like like when you
Speaker 1: go to a nice restaurant and you're supposed to wear
Speaker 1: a coat, but you don't have a coat, they go
Speaker 1: pull a coat out of the back and they say,
Speaker 1: put this on. You know, so I would have a
Speaker 1: bunch of glasses, you know. They would they would probably
Speaker 1: be just those cheap sunglasses and they would have they
Speaker 1: would have doubicippy on the side, and I would say, here,
Speaker 1: you can wear these if the light bothers you, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like that sort of thing, like because that's
Speaker 1: what I don't want people to like make that claim. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, medically I have to wear these glasses or
Speaker 1: the light bothers me or whatever, Like, Okay, here's some glasses.
Speaker 1: Have fun. You're not wearing these, Like you're not wearing
Speaker 1: the ones with the camera on the side that's just
Speaker 1: not happening, or the glasses that have the the audio earbuddets.
Speaker 1: You're also not wearing those, you know. So I think
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I'm fine with, like totally banning that,
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, But I think the phone
Speaker 1: thing is like kind of like, I mean, I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: it's maybe this is just me being naive. I just
Speaker 1: don't personally see it, or maybe I just don't necessarily
Speaker 1: care as much about somebody being on a solver. And
Speaker 1: and I also kind of think that that thought is
Speaker 1: shared with a fair amount of the high stakes community.
Speaker 1: Again because in the studio, like, huh, we don't we
Speaker 1: don't say no, you can't look at a solver. All
Speaker 1: these everyone in the studio knows you could possibly look
Speaker 1: at a solver. Now, of course you can't do it
Speaker 1: in the middle of the hand. We totally get it.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, like so I just find that interesting.
Speaker 1: So again, it's one of those things where this rule
Speaker 1: is now on paper. We're gonna have to see how
Speaker 1: it plays out. I'm guessing though it's it's probably pretty
Speaker 1: good overall, both from policing it on the operator side
Speaker 1: and then also from the players side, because so much
Speaker 1: was made of the the Jonathan Tomiow and Dominic Niche
Speaker 1: thing at the WSP Main Event final table. You know, again,
Speaker 1: that was the biggest stage to actually have that happen on.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people are gonna kind
Speaker 1: of just not do it anyway. You know, They're going
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't want to be that guy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get called out, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be decued, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to have a penalty whatever it may be. Now, this
Speaker 1: next rule though, this one' let's go baby. A participant
Speaker 1: who intentionally dodges his or her blinds when moving from
Speaker 1: an existing seat must forfeit both blinds and the big
Speaker 1: bine ante if applicable, and will receive a one round penalty.
Speaker 1: Give these people a seven round penalty for all I care.
Speaker 1: These people are the worst of the worst.
Speaker 2: Wait did the blinds go though? Is it a splash
Speaker 2: pot or put it in the pot?
Speaker 1: Who cares? I mean maybe they just take them off
Speaker 1: the table. I don't know, But who I don't care
Speaker 1: where it goes. That person does not get them. It's
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous when you see these people walking around like
Speaker 1: with their head up, acting confused, and you're like, bro,
Speaker 1: your table is right okay, or your table is here
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting at it sit your ass down and
Speaker 1: let's I.
Speaker 2: Find the funniest one is when someone has like who
Speaker 2: comes up to a full table and they're like, what
Speaker 2: table numbers this? I'm like, buddy, there's no seat here,
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, are they are?
Speaker 1: They are? They come up to that table and they say, hey,
Speaker 1: what table numbers this? And then they they like they
Speaker 1: come up. Let's say the table's four, and the dealers
Speaker 1: like table four, and the guy has like card sixty four,
Speaker 1: and then he goes to the next table. What table's
Speaker 1: number is this? Bro? You have sixty four? We just
Speaker 1: told you it's four. It's probably on the opposite side
Speaker 1: of the room, Like, what what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I guess my first question is, yeah,
Speaker 2: what happens with the blinds that should be in the rule?
Speaker 2: Should are they? Are they removed from the tournament? Or
Speaker 2: they made as a splash pot? If they're a splash pot,
Speaker 2: think about it. You see someone walking around and you're
Speaker 2: on the bottom with aces, right, you're gonna just call
Speaker 2: the floor up and be like, hey, he's at this table.
Speaker 1: I would as soon it be like the next hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then like if you have a good hand
Speaker 2: or you have a bandhand. You probably want to you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's some you can do some finagling with that pot.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know, I know you like to
Speaker 1: get into specifics and details more than I do. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that that this rule is on the
Speaker 1: books and people can look at it and say, no,
Speaker 1: your ass was walking around the tournament area clearly trying
Speaker 1: to miss blinds, like let's go, like, let's let's figure
Speaker 1: this out.
Speaker 2: And I get Look, I get it, I've gotten I
Speaker 2: mean I got loss at nap t trying to find
Speaker 2: my table because it was in it. We're in one
Speaker 2: section of the room, and the one table on the
Speaker 2: other side of like the the you know, the little
Speaker 2: carridors they put in was my table, and bloody you've
Speaker 2: took in. Jeremy Becka's like, are you blind dodging and like, no,
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know where my hell my table is
Speaker 2: and it was on the other side of the room,
Speaker 2: which made no sense. So I get it. It is hot,
Speaker 2: but you don't go to you can tell when someone's
Speaker 2: dodging blinds. You know they're going to every table they're
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can just you can count your face
Speaker 1: and you just like this guy is for sure dodging
Speaker 1: the blinds, like you know, you know what's happening.
Speaker 2: And I mean, like, yeah, it's annoying so many people
Speaker 2: do it. It's at least this is good. This is
Speaker 2: a Maybe one round penalty is not enough. Maybe forfeiting
Speaker 2: both blinds is not enough. Maybe it should be worse.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm I'm for having this rule. I'm
Speaker 1: for actually enforcing it. I think these people are just
Speaker 1: the worst, you know, trying to get this ridiculous advantage.
Speaker 1: Just go to the next damn table, pay the blinds.
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, you know. Like I would also
Speaker 1: add that, you know, even even before this this rule,
Speaker 1: because oftentimes this happens because a table broke. If you're
Speaker 1: caught stalling at a table that's about to break because
Speaker 1: you don't want to pay the blinds, you should also
Speaker 1: get a penalty.
Speaker 2: Look, I've done that. You should It's it's like stolen
Speaker 2: to get to the money. Okay, it's not.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. If it's day one a of the
Speaker 1: Colossus and you're asked a stalling no, you should be
Speaker 1: get out of here.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 1: Not not if it's a four and you're looking at
Speaker 1: a seven thousand dollars prize jump on a four dollars buying. Okay, understandable,
Speaker 1: I get it. That's within the strategy of what's going
Speaker 1: on here.
Speaker 2: There is an installing and it's only really acceptable closing
Speaker 2: in on the money pay jumps, and to a degree,
Speaker 2: if you have like sub ten big blinds or something
Speaker 2: and you're about to get a table breaks.
Speaker 1: I actually have a question. This brings something up. So
Speaker 1: I know some places I would say chief among them
Speaker 1: is the studio. Is that when you get down to
Speaker 1: a certain time on the clock five minutes left right,
Speaker 1: they pause the clock and they draw for hands so
Speaker 1: that people can't stall for the next blind jump. Whatever.
Speaker 1: What if you did that for table breaks? Hey, this
Speaker 1: table's breaking next, you have two more hands to play,
Speaker 1: like and it's just listen, it's two hands to play,
Speaker 1: or it's whatever hands to play. That's just how it is.
Speaker 1: But like we're not letting you be, like you come
Speaker 1: over or it's sometimes they don't announce it, of course
Speaker 1: because they don't want people to stall. But you see
Speaker 1: the guy rocks up with this giant wheelbarrel of racks.
Speaker 1: You know your table's breaking next there's no other tables around,
Speaker 1: you know, so people you know, might play a little
Speaker 1: bit slower whatever. But what if the floor person just
Speaker 1: be hey, three hands, that's what we're doing, don't I.
Speaker 2: Think it should just be random table break? Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you really do? Can you really do random
Speaker 1: table break at the wsh A P like let's say
Speaker 1: losses when.
Speaker 2: There's no under tables. Once you're in the money, you
Speaker 2: can get to a point where you can start doing it.
Speaker 2: Now do I want to do it with sixty tables left? No?
Speaker 2: But you could expand to say ten tables.
Speaker 1: Sure, But that's but that's where I'm saying. Before that,
Speaker 1: could you do you go up to a table and
Speaker 1: you you just high card at the table, Hey one
Speaker 1: through four, pick a number of hands, let's go.
Speaker 2: I mean that number. I don't know if it's that
Speaker 2: vital that like early on in a colossus. I think
Speaker 2: it matters more later.
Speaker 1: In the I mean, listen on the on the the
Speaker 1: prioritization total poll, it's probably very low. But what I'll
Speaker 1: say is that if you're trying to improve everything, this
Speaker 1: is something that you could that could potentially be improved. Sure,
Speaker 1: so you know, you go up to the batch of
Speaker 1: tables that you're about to break, you draw, you say, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: you're playing three more hands, don't stall, like, let's let's go,
Speaker 1: you know, let's make this happen. And I think that
Speaker 1: that could could could work, you know. So those those
Speaker 1: are the rules mainly, but the most important rule, of
Speaker 1: course is what we hit on first basby plus app
Speaker 1: get it, you're gonna need it. Let's go. All right,
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Speaker 1: If I don't sell action, I'm not going to put
Speaker 1: up the whole twenty five K myself. That's just not
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Speaker 1: sell out, we won't be in. And something I've also
Speaker 1: said is that the year that I don't sell to
Speaker 1: get in is the year I'm done doing it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, it's like it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the run is ended. I'm just gonna move on with
Speaker 1: my life. There are two rule changes this year, kind
Speaker 1: of small but notable. So one thing that they're gonna
Speaker 1: do is for anyone who wins a bracelet, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a twenty five point bonus, So it boosts up
Speaker 1: that first place points total a bit more.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a ten k event, first place would
Speaker 1: be one hundred points. With the old rules, first place
Speaker 1: to be one hundred, second place to be ninety, third
Speaker 1: place to be eighty, et cetera. So you know, the
Speaker 1: jump from like second to first, isn't that meaningful. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's good to have the additional ten points, yes, but
Speaker 1: it's not really that much. Now this year it'd be
Speaker 1: ninety to one twenty five, so winning like actually matters
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Speaker 1: that so they had the field size bonus was capped
Speaker 1: at eighty one players, the final eighty one players for
Speaker 1: events that were less than one thousand dollars. This year,
Speaker 1: it's going to be events that are fifteen hundred or less.
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Speaker 1: which had a massive field bonus last year. It'll include
Speaker 1: things I think like the Monster Stack, the Millionaire Maker,
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. I would guess those are also
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Speaker 1: verify I guess if it's if it's fifteen hundred and
Speaker 1: lower or fifteen or lower than fifteen hundred. Just need
Speaker 1: to kind of clarify that. But either way, it's going
Speaker 1: to include a few more events for that field bones
Speaker 1: not that the field bonus won't be big. It's just
Speaker 1: going to be harder to achieve because it'll be a
Speaker 1: fewer spots. It'll be capped at the final eighty one entries.
Speaker 1: So we got that. I know you bought a piece,
Speaker 1: so you're aided, of course. I mean, listen, we won
Speaker 1: the thing two years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better win it this year.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I'm really hoping. You know, last year I
Speaker 1: felt like we had some unfortunate spots, I would say.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, obviously everyone knows we drafted Daniel last year.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows the stuff he goes through because he puts
Speaker 1: it on the vlog every single day. And he got
Speaker 1: just in a lot of spots deep in tournaments, which
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Speaker 1: K when he had Kings versus Taylor von Kreigenberg's Queens,
Speaker 1: and that was for a ton of chips with like
Speaker 1: two tables left or something, maybe even the final time
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly, but yeah, I mean that would
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Speaker 1: bought some action, I don't know, but just you know,
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Speaker 1: Poker Goo will be streaming the draft once again. It
Speaker 1: will be on what is it Tuesday, May twenty seventh.
Speaker 2: Yep, a one o'clock.
Speaker 1: I think one o'clock. It'll be on the poker Go
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's my call. I think that's
Speaker 2: a miss Daniel Groner's decision.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, has he talked to you?
Speaker 2: He hasn't. Maybe I'm out. Wow, I may the replace him?
Speaker 1: Know you should do? Is you should send him a
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Speaker 2: You know, that might actually definitely force me out.
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Speaker 1: Moving on, we got some news coming out of Florida.
Speaker 1: Aliam Sirovich kicked out of the Run Good Poker Series
Speaker 1: Best Bet Jacksonville main event. Now I find this a
Speaker 1: little bit interesting. He was kicked out of the I
Speaker 1: think it was a twelve hundred dollars buy in main
Speaker 1: event after the dinner break on one of the day ones.
Speaker 1: There were eighty players in the field or eighty entries
Speaker 1: in the field total, there were thirty left, and he
Speaker 1: was the chip leader. From what I understand, they went
Speaker 1: on dinner break, they come back and he's gone, and
Speaker 1: then it's confirmed that he was in fact removed from
Speaker 1: the tournament. Now, a couple things. One, why did they
Speaker 1: wait till the dinner break to get rid of him?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you do this? Now, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: like somebody at the registration cage necessarily knows who the
Speaker 1: heck aliam Sirovich is or everything. You know, they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're just working away doing the thing, collecting the money,
Speaker 1: giving you a ticket and moving on. But somebody didn't
Speaker 1: see him in level one be like, uh, hey, like
Speaker 1: you know you can't play. The other thing is that
Speaker 1: he has cash is at best Bet like in November
Speaker 1: and in January, So like, was this a run good decision?
Speaker 1: But again, why wasn't it made earlier? Was this a
Speaker 1: best bet decision? But then why have you been letting
Speaker 1: him play in other events? So I'm just listen, it's
Speaker 1: obviously what aliam Ssirovitch did and the fact that he
Speaker 1: didn't really come clean about all the cheating allegations and whatnot,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't help his cause in any sense. But
Speaker 1: like I just from a venue standpoint, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: just wondering process here, Like, I mean, if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna let him play, then you know, don't let him play,
Speaker 1: But are you just like I don't know because maybe
Speaker 1: the partner said something, but I don't really understand. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you have obviously dealt with this a little
Speaker 1: bit more of commissioner, I mean, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this whole situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the fact that he has cashes, you know,
Speaker 2: within the last few months, shows that he's been allowed
Speaker 2: to play obviously at Best Bet, so it seems like
Speaker 2: it comes more from possibly run Good side of things,
Speaker 2: which is fine, nothing against that. Maybe just hey, do
Speaker 2: it a little earlier then dinner break, you know, while
Speaker 2: he's chip leader. That's my only thought on that. But
Speaker 2: you know, look, who knows. Maybe it's something completely unrelated
Speaker 2: to Run Good you know and Best Bet. Maybe he
Speaker 2: you know, did something on property that day that was
Speaker 2: out of line, so you know, without the information coming
Speaker 2: from Best Bet or run Good directly, I think we're
Speaker 2: just kind of assuming a lot here.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I mean again, I just find it
Speaker 1: interesting that it seems like they've been the property has
Speaker 1: been letting him play and hasn't really had an issue
Speaker 1: with it, because again, he does have cashes, and if
Speaker 1: you have cashes, you're not cashing every single event, so
Speaker 1: you're probably played a bunch of other events too. So
Speaker 1: I just thought it was very interesting how this was
Speaker 1: gone about. I mean, listen, if the guy's basically banned
Speaker 1: from all of poker, I mean, I'm not gonna necessarily complain,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think a lot of players would,
Speaker 1: given everything that has been alleged to go on with him.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, that's the case, and if
Speaker 1: that's your stance, that's your stance. Yes, But I also
Speaker 1: just think that, like, it doesn't seem like that's been
Speaker 1: your stance. So I'm just I'm just kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting to bring up. So yeah, just
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to mention that. And then news just
Speaker 1: dropped today, you know, shortly before we hit the record
Speaker 1: button that Poker Stars is postponing it's Pennsylvania Shared Liquidity.
Speaker 1: So of course we talked about how Pennsylvania joined the
Speaker 1: Multi State Internet Gaming Agreement with Michigan, New Jersey. I
Speaker 1: believe it's el Aware and Nevada. Also maybe West Virginia,
Speaker 1: but West Virginia doesn't have poker right now. Anyway, Poker
Speaker 1: Stars is not going to be linking its platform across
Speaker 1: the states, at least immediately. It said it did cite
Speaker 1: global operational priorities for this, So I don't exactly know
Speaker 1: what that means, but I'm guessing we'll find out what
Speaker 1: that means in the coming months, maybe the coming year,
Speaker 1: maybe even shorter than out the coming weeks. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's interesting. I mean, I think the delay
Speaker 1: is I would say, maybe a little bit surprising, you know,
Speaker 1: just because I view Poker Stars as a leader in
Speaker 1: the online poker category. You know. I know, it's obviously
Speaker 1: things are a little bit different here in the US
Speaker 1: because you only have a few states that are involved,
Speaker 1: so it's not as big as rest of the world. But
Speaker 1: the brand Poker Stars, you know, I thought would be
Speaker 1: kind of first and foremost to doing this sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I do think it's interesting. Now they
Speaker 1: do have New Jersey and Michigan are linked those player pools,
Speaker 1: and Poker Stars does not operate in Nevada at least currently,
Speaker 1: so maybe it's something where they want to wait till
Speaker 1: they get into Nevada to join. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of kind of speculating, but I did find
Speaker 1: that that a little bit interesting, and you know, kind
Speaker 1: of big picture because you have betam JM Poker has
Speaker 1: already done it in linked now betam JM Poker is
Speaker 1: not in Nevada, but you know across New Jersey, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: and Michigan, those pools are linked. And then you have WSOP,
Speaker 1: which is in Nevada and now is linked with Nevada,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. I mean, Poker Stars. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just gonna fall further behind in the US,
Speaker 1: which is not what you want to do, right you
Speaker 1: know if especially like let's say you're in Pennsylvania, you
Speaker 1: know you have an option to obviously, you have an
Speaker 1: option to play on all the sites that you want. Yes,
Speaker 1: I will tell you, as somebody who has played online
Speaker 1: poker quite a bit, it's just easier just to have
Speaker 1: all your funds and everything in one plays and fire
Speaker 1: up one platform. That's just easier. Like yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like the true diehards and the pros will fire up
Speaker 1: multiple sites and whatever. But a lot of people, I
Speaker 1: think just they play where they play. You know, they
Speaker 1: put all their money on the they're five hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: their a thousand bucks on one site and like that's it.
Speaker 1: And if if the biggest and best games are are
Speaker 1: I would say Devasity first because they include Nevada, and
Speaker 1: then second to bet MGM, doesn't Poker Stars kind of
Speaker 1: like fall further down. So I don't know, I found
Speaker 1: the I found the decision to be interesting. That said, again,
Speaker 1: you know, they did say they're not immediately going to
Speaker 1: do it, kind of like it seems like it's like
Speaker 1: a prioritization thing. So that would tell me that there
Speaker 1: are plans for it. Yes, So so we'll see. I
Speaker 1: don't know, do you have any thoughts here?
Speaker 2: I think it's just I just my guess is that, yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously there's a lot more things at the forefront for
Speaker 2: pocus Stars around the world then the merge liquidity here
Speaker 2: in the States. They probably also want to see how,
Speaker 2: you know, how it works for Nevada, how it works
Speaker 2: for you know, a bet MGM if that comes next,
Speaker 2: and see if there are any issues before they kind
Speaker 2: of launch into it. And yeah, I just don't think
Speaker 2: it like like they've said, it's not a priority. Their
Speaker 2: priorities obviously real money gaming outside of America, their tours,
Speaker 2: and then when you come here, it's going to probably
Speaker 2: be resorts World, the return of the napt which you know,
Speaker 2: having this live leading into that is good for boosting
Speaker 2: numbers and satellite qualifiers, et cetera. So maybe not a
Speaker 2: priority now, but hopefully a priority soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I also do think you know, you
Speaker 1: mentioned the NAPT I mean, they did say that that's
Speaker 1: coming back, you know, similar sort of timeframe. I would
Speaker 1: guess November, right, So, I mean I would I would
Speaker 1: have thought that, you know, you want to link the
Speaker 1: player pools because you want to be able to run
Speaker 1: more qualifiers for that event. Now we all know they're
Speaker 1: not in Nevada, yes, but this I would say, Flagship
Speaker 1: North American event is in Nevada, So don't you want
Speaker 1: like bigger qualification pools and satellite qualifiers and all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff like it Just that seems like it
Speaker 1: would make sense. But hey, who knows, there's probably news
Speaker 1: that that is going to come out, So we'll just
Speaker 1: kind of keep an eye on this one and see
Speaker 1: how it goes. But right now, you know, Poker Stars
Speaker 1: has put out a statement saying, you know, it is
Speaker 1: postponing the the joining of the Pennsylvania Shared Liquidity, So
Speaker 1: just just kind of kind of flagging that one. And
Speaker 1: then also as it relates to online poker. You got
Speaker 1: Club WPT Goal, which is a sweepstakes poker model similar
Speaker 1: to that that is offered by Global Poker. They are
Speaker 1: reportedly switching from a web based platform to a downloadable client,
Speaker 1: and they're also going to introduce multi table capabilities, So
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Before it was web based, both on
Speaker 1: desktop or on mobile devices, and you could only play
Speaker 1: one table, right, Yeah, So I find it interesting because
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it's a move to
Speaker 1: become a poker site that's geared more towards poker players,
Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily disagree with. I'm just pointing that
Speaker 1: out how I'm kind of thinking about things. But when
Speaker 1: you start offering things like multi tables, and you know,
Speaker 1: doing that via a downloadable client, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: going to benefit more pro players, more serious players, which
Speaker 1: then makes the site harder, which can ultimately kill off
Speaker 1: your player pool. So it's just an interesting development, is
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm getting at.
Speaker 2: So so we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean I think people kind of thought, okay, like
Speaker 1: you know, Club WPT Gold is probably fairly soft right now,
Speaker 1: and does this mean that it's only going to get harder?
Speaker 1: And then if it gets harder. Does the player pool shrink?
Speaker 1: And if the player pool shrinks but they want to
Speaker 1: keep the same revenue, do they then have to increase rake?
Speaker 1: Like that's just a big picture, Like how does this
Speaker 1: all play out? I mean, I would I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be against being able to play multiple tables on
Speaker 1: Club WBT Gold. Yes, but like you know, is that
Speaker 1: is that ultimately going to be a positive or negative?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I guess we'll wait to
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with everything you said there.
Speaker 2: I think they're still trying to figure out exactly what
Speaker 2: they're trying to do, you know, different types of promotions.
Speaker 2: You know, they have their big promotion coming up during
Speaker 2: the summer. But yeah, like it's it's kind of hard
Speaker 2: to gauge their strategic goal. But yeah, definitely leaning into
Speaker 2: more being poker player friendly than anything, especially with you know,
Speaker 2: having done polk having you know, Ethan Yall involved, Like
Speaker 2: more poker player than none.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, another thing like the Poker Stars news.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, we'll see how this one goes.
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