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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Tim Duckworth. What's going on, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>I munch and done good. How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing all right. I mean a big hectic this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's understandable. You've got a new haircut. I know

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<v Speaker 1>people can't see it, but those that join us at

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<v Speaker 1>the WSP in what three weeks time, I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see this.

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<v Speaker 2>You need If it lost, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it should definitely last. I mean, you look like

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot, but I think it looks it looks kind

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<v Speaker 1>of great. You definitely look like you play Ossie rules football. Yeah, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't know if if you saw

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, but like there's like this new sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen this where basically two guys line up

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<v Speaker 1>and they just run at each other a million miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and basically kill each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's more rugby because whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's that version of the like the slap.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the slap. Yeah, it looks insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it looks absolutely wild. I mean these

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<v Speaker 1>guys were forced. Yeah, but didn't you just play something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna line myself up against a three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>pounds samoan and try and knock him to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but like when you go play, when you play

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<v Speaker 1>Aussie Rules, so like, are there big ass people on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as much as like a rugby is. It's more

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<v Speaker 2>about this more speed and agility than anything. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously some big guys, but they're not as effective in

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<v Speaker 2>Aussie Rules. So I just try and run away from

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<v Speaker 2>people and not get tackled. I don't like contact them

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a baby, did you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something on your Instagram some score that was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, Yeah, we crushed We absolutely destroyed Orange County

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<v Speaker 2>Giants by ninety points, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, oh Orange County, huh, shout out producer Rich Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>He's to join the squad Orange County.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go look Orange County. Good bunch, a good bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of blugs down there. So I might go play with

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<v Speaker 2>them in a couple of weeks for the thing it's

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<v Speaker 2>called the Sun Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>If you and where was your team from?

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, well, Vegas doesn't really have much of a team anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>so I basically just an Arizona Hawk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I would have bet lots of money on the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Hawks versus something Orange County when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>Ousie Wilson, I mean it will wait. Orange County brings

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<v Speaker 1>the heat and.

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<v Speaker 2>There they've got some good players. But Hawks looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming for the championship this year.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well we're all over the place to start

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<v Speaker 1>this part. Yes, but I mean I'll give you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll peel back the curtain a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight forty seven rolls around in the morning. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning, May eighth. I'm driving home, just picking up

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<v Speaker 1>the coffees on the way home from dropping off the

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<v Speaker 1>kids for the wife, and I Tim text me, are

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<v Speaker 1>we still potting at nine? Immediately I'm like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to finish the rundown of the topics. I

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<v Speaker 1>like half did them, and then I kind of sketched

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<v Speaker 1>them out the other day. I forgot got busy whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tim's like, well, what are we going to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then in my mind I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're hitting me up thirteen minutes before showtime, you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously have not prepared for the rundown. So it does

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<v Speaker 1>not matter what I put on the rundown because you

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<v Speaker 1>have not prepared. So we're just gonna hit on some

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<v Speaker 1>general topics. We're gonna kind of bounce all over the place. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to talk to you guys, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's why we're here. You know, the dobasipy

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<v Speaker 1>plus app. They announced kind of some some further solidified details.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we hit on that last episode, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll hit on it again, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>worth hitting on this multiple times because it is so

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<v Speaker 1>important for the summer. You absolutely do need to have

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<v Speaker 1>this app. So you know, we're going to probably drill

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<v Speaker 1>at home with you guys, you know a few more

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<v Speaker 1>times as we go. There are a couple updated WISIP

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<v Speaker 1>rules that we want to touch on. Probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>fun topic of this podcast, twenty five K fantasy. It

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<v Speaker 1>is coming baby, and we are in the dance once again,

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<v Speaker 1>well hopefully, but I'll talk about that when we get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Our old friend, Poker's old friend, Aliam Siirrovich is in

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines. I definitely want to hit on that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then just a couple of news items as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to some online poker stuff here in the US that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll quickly touch on as we go. So that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the show today, and then I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll talk about some other stuff as always though,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least as we're doing right now. Code words

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<v Speaker 1>will be dropped at some point in this episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you need to listen through. You need to find

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<v Speaker 1>those code words, and then you need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Glean promotion link will be in the description. You

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<v Speaker 1>can enter those code words. You get those raffle tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>YadA ya YadA. Hopefully you're playing in the PGT Million

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I play there pretty regularly. I know

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<v Speaker 1>poker Go president more Eskandani plays their regular and he

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<v Speaker 1>always tells me at least once a week he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a free to play poker game, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like legit poker. These guys really know how to play.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing kind of tricky stuff, you know. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like these other poker apps or games where people

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<v Speaker 1>are just flying all in and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's pretty legit. So when I do say

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<v Speaker 1>you can hone your skills, I mean you can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>like hone your skills, Like you can get in there

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<v Speaker 1>and you can actually try, and you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>of course find it in the app store or on

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<v Speaker 1>Google Play. So the WSB plus app is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be mandatory to play poker this summer. You must have

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<v Speaker 1>the was B plus app, You must get an account,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can register for ANYBASIP event through the app.

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<v Speaker 1>You're also still gonna need the Caesars Rewards cards. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, if you're out there now and you're

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<v Speaker 1>planning on playing the Wasp, you can just download the

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<v Speaker 1>app to your phone right now. I know Tim has it,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have it. You know, plenty of people

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<v Speaker 1>have already done it. You can kind of go through

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<v Speaker 1>the initial process of things, maybe poke around a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>see what's in there, and then once you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the property in Vegas, if you don't have one already,

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<v Speaker 1>you can pick up a Caesar's Reward card and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna it's gonna prompt you in the app at

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<v Speaker 1>some point when you go to register for a tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to enter that and link it. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that's gonna happen. So so make sure you're prepared,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, show up to the counter or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, hey, do you have the app? And

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<v Speaker 1>you say, oh no, what's that? Don't do that. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>be that guy or gal. This replaces Bravo Poker Live.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm guessing no more kiosks at the series, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess could just quickly as as a side topic,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw this, tim but Bravo Poker.

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo released the thing saying like they're gonna update all

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<v Speaker 1>their stuff. Oh and listen, you know I've said it before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about freaking time, man. That I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 1>like the most archaic thing I've ever seen in my life. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's it did help at the summer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like being able to like just put the ticket in

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<v Speaker 1>and like whatever. I mean. So, yeah, so I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at some their the Bravo Poker Live Twitter slash x

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<v Speaker 1>account right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of funny is that this graphic also looks

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<v Speaker 1>very old and archaic. I feel like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>moving to update everything, you would splurge on a graphic designer.

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<v Speaker 1>So the graphic looked up to date as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They did say We're thrilled to share exciting updates coming

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<v Speaker 1>soon too, Bravo Poker Live. Thanks for your feedback. We're

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<v Speaker 1>adding new features upgrading our platform to make your experience

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<v Speaker 1>faster and seamless. Then they put a couple of bullet

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<v Speaker 1>points of what to look forward to new look and

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<v Speaker 1>feel for the Bravo Poker Live app, tournament registration functionality,

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<v Speaker 1>within the Bravo Poker Live app, improved dashboard to manage,

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<v Speaker 1>manage and fund your Bravo tbic account, and then enhanced

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<v Speaker 1>waiting less sign up with mobile checking and push notifications.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll say that this isn't only because of what

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<v Speaker 1>WSP is doing with WSP plus app. I would also

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<v Speaker 1>say this is because of Poker Atlas right. Poker Atlas

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely out there, so you know, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>timing could be somewhat coincidental that this dropped in light

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<v Speaker 1>of all the news coming out about the WSP plus app,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would bet that this has been in the

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<v Speaker 1>works for a little bit, and it's funny. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the first comment rule of first, how is your company

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<v Speaker 1>so absolutely terrible at graphic design?

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<v Speaker 2>Lo o L. I'm reading this comment, when does registration

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<v Speaker 2>open for WSP.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they didn't get the message. That's kill Billy g.

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<v Speaker 1>We should just fire him a message and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna need the WSP plus app, buddy. But listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, this is why you know when

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<v Speaker 1>I say things like we need like another online poker

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<v Speaker 1>operator here in Nevada, stuff like that, it's because competition

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<v Speaker 1>is good. Competition forced you to improve, to advance, to update.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we've talked about how the Bravo Poker

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<v Speaker 1>Live app is. I feel like they launched it whenever

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<v Speaker 1>they launched it, and it had never been updated since,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So finally it's going to get updated. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now, of course we'll we'll, we'll poke around

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<v Speaker 1>in it, we'll see how it is when when the

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<v Speaker 1>updates come, you know. But that's at least a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they're you know, they got a little kick

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<v Speaker 1>in the butt to actually move things forward. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a side topic there with all of this. But back

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<v Speaker 1>to the WSP plus app. So it is mandatory, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, just download that to your smartphone

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<v Speaker 1>device iOS or Android. You can find it in the

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<v Speaker 1>various stores there. It's all going to be linked via

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<v Speaker 1>what they call a GG pass account. Basically you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>poker things, at least as it pertains to me here

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<v Speaker 1>GG Poker, I use the same log in there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>poker steak dot com where you can sell action and

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<v Speaker 1>end by action as well. Also on Club GG, same

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<v Speaker 1>log in there. Now for the WSP plus app going

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<v Speaker 1>to be same log in there, I would imagine for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you in the rest of the world, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing for GG Poker online, right, So all that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to kind of be rolled in together. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a GG pass account, that's what you'll log

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<v Speaker 1>in with. If not, you'll have to create a new account.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you pick your event, you're gonna have to connect

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<v Speaker 1>your Caesars reward number as I mentioned, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can purchase your tournament ticket. Just reading through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff on social media, mostly coming from Kevmath,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Kevmath for all the work he does

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<v Speaker 1>and answering the bazillion questions that people are firing his way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it sounds like everything's just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in like one time, get your ID verified in all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and then once you do that, you can

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<v Speaker 1>that's where your tournament ticket's going to show up, with

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna I would imagine it's probably gonna ping you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at some point, but like, hey, your alternate

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<v Speaker 1>one fifty four, Maybe it tells you to go to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, push notifications. It says, hey, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>table and seat is ready to go here, So that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff. It's also going to be stuff, as

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<v Speaker 1>find the tournament clock, you can find various information on

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<v Speaker 1>the events. So I think it's certainly a welcome addition

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<v Speaker 1>to the DOUBSIP. It's gonna make things much more efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>at least that's how it should operate in theory. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's going to be some kinks to work

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<v Speaker 1>out at the beginning. You know, I know that they've

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<v Speaker 1>had it in the Bahamas for the past two years.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bahamas is not Vegas. Vegas is fifteen x the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting right

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<v Speaker 1>from the jump to see what sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kinks they have to work through. Because that first day

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<v Speaker 1>is day one A of the Mystery Millions, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know that thing gets eighteen twenty thousand people, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a fun one. One interesting thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw when I was playing around with the wasp plus

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<v Speaker 1>app is you can buy multiple tickets to an event.

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<v Speaker 1>Now two things here is that one. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>need to fix it because you can buy multiple pents

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<v Speaker 1>for literally at least you can click the button like

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<v Speaker 1>to go up to like I was able to click

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<v Speaker 1>nine for the Dovaspy main event, and then you click

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<v Speaker 1>purchase and it's like, okay, you own ninety thousand dollars. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we obviously know that that one's a freezeout, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be one one update they're probably gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>know freeze outs are freeze outs, other ones or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I do like the fact, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>wondered in the past when I go up to play

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the Colossus, why can't I just buy three tickets? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I don't use them, okay, then it's on

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<v Speaker 1>me to go refund them. But and then you could

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<v Speaker 1>also have it in a thing where it's like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't if you don't, go get them refunded

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<v Speaker 1>by X date. Let's say it's December thirty, first, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five at any sort of Caesar's property or whatever. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're just shit out of luck and you lost

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<v Speaker 1>your money. I mean, who cares that? I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a lot better instead of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>constantly having to go back to the cage. So this

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<v Speaker 1>it appears like you are able to buy the multiple tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be cool. You know, I would certainly like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the fact that it's anya fine now it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, we don't really need to go line up, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't really need to buy multiple bullets in

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<v Speaker 2>advance because you can buy while busting. True, that is

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<v Speaker 2>very could actually just buy it? Well what else the river?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well what I was thinking is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you buy them in advance, are you like higher

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<v Speaker 1>up on the alternate list? Oh? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it would essentially if I if I were to

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<v Speaker 1>buy tickets today and no one else has bought tickets

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<v Speaker 1>to Mystery millions. Okay, I'm let's say I buy two tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>I go in, I bust now while I'm playing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like a a like a tournament or sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>a cash game sign up list where you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>put my name, let's I call in, right, I put

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<v Speaker 1>my name in, and my name is at the top, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm not there, it just rolls it. So

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<v Speaker 1>like if I'm still in the tournament and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>use that ticket, like if I if I did purchase

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<v Speaker 1>that ticket, I'm technically alternate number one. But if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still in the tournament or I don't like click like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, accept or go play or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever that mechanism is, it just kind of rolls me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it keeps rolling me. But the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>did purchase it so early, you know, you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that you would stay kind of towards the top, right

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<v Speaker 1>that that that was my thinking behind it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with you, Like I still think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be extremely efficiently. You're literally you're gonna bust, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna click a few buttons on your phone, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fire back in boom. But I was thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you did purchase things ahead of time, then you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you get up to that alternate list a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit higher. So that was that was my thought there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's one of the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be and I'm assuming everyone's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keeping an eye on you know, how does

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<v Speaker 1>it work?

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<v Speaker 2>I am like, go ahead, No, I have a question.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hypothetically trying to buy into the Mystery Millions right

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<v Speaker 2>now click register, and then before I purchase my ticket,

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<v Speaker 2>it says, please note that you must register for this

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<v Speaker 2>tournament yourself after purchasing the ticket. What does that actually mean?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there one more step we need to do? Or like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we keep discussing this. We've talked to people,

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to give us our table and seat. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I don't understand this, like no, that we must

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<v Speaker 2>register the to one of me yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's because you haven't verified like your

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<v Speaker 1>ID and stuff yet, Like you haven't done the one

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<v Speaker 1>time like put your money in, like get your idea verified,

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like because I've only done two of the three steps

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<v Speaker 2>for verification because the other one third one is on site.

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<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, that maybe that maybe that's a but

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<v Speaker 2>it would be silly, you know that if we barth

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<v Speaker 2>of this app, we buy it, and then we still

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<v Speaker 2>have to go, you know, do one more step check

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<v Speaker 2>in somewhere. Hopefully they can just send us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your yellow section table seventeen, seat four. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Another thing I'm curious about, just being like the

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<v Speaker 1>the I guess kind of nerd I am about this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff is I feel like the entire Divisity

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<v Speaker 1>schedule was completed before they knew that Doviasity Plus was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be available to them. And I say that

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<v Speaker 1>because and I'm sure there's people out there who have

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<v Speaker 1>worked with apps, who have worked with websites, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be, that your dev team can tell you everything

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<v Speaker 1>is load tested until it actually gets tested. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like years ago going into the World Series

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<v Speaker 1>of Poker when I was running the Poker News team.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one of the first events was that forty

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<v Speaker 1>K anniversary Nolamit hold Them event, and it was like, No,

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<v Speaker 1>our website's ready, our websites' ready because we had just

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<v Speaker 1>done a bunch of new stuff for the website. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the website's ready, the website's ready, the website ready. Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>website crashes Like in the first hour because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>actually predict it like you can try. You can throw

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff at it in this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, staging development world, but you can't ultimately be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for that day one. And why say that is

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<v Speaker 1>like if you knew that do wasit plus app was

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Vegas and the load that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on it, would you actually start the dowicip with the

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<v Speaker 1>Mystery Millions? Wouldn't you kind of be like, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start Day one is going to be the employees event

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<v Speaker 1>and that five k opener, and then day two, day three,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Mystery Millions starts because at least you get

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<v Speaker 1>a test on the first day of you know, probably

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<v Speaker 1>one to two thousand people instead of five to six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people possibly, right, So that's you know, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a little interesting nugget there. Now I'll also say this,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta bear with the DOUBSIP and GG Poker and everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ultimately going to be a very good thing

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<v Speaker 1>for the series. I fully believe that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make things way way way more efficient. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make the process way way way better. You know, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there are going to be some quote unquote growing pains

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<v Speaker 1>with things as as you know, one everyone gets used

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Like, there's probably going to be lines initially

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<v Speaker 1>because you're going to have people that are coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the WSB that need to go and do the whole

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<v Speaker 1>ID verification and funding of the accounts like in person. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but then after that it should be extremely streamlined. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So again, just you know, bear with every everything as

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<v Speaker 1>much as possible because ultimately, you know, as the summer

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<v Speaker 1>goes on, this is only going to improve and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get better. It is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very very good thing. And then in years to come,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in future summers, this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a big benefit. And it's also something where I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine other operators take on a similar sort of path.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know, Tim, you and I have already

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<v Speaker 1>heard the There are various other operators we won't name names,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know they've been poking around being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we should have this too. So yeah, there's that. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Stars has the Poker Stars Live app, and outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the US, you know, it works very similar to this.

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<v Speaker 1>In the US. There's of course, all the the issues

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<v Speaker 1>you and I did the whole Resorts World NAPT thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of like, well, what's the point

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<v Speaker 1>of the app if I have to go stand in

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen different lines and get eighteen different tickets and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all this sort of stuff. But again, maybe this is

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<v Speaker 1>like this prompt Resorts World and the NAPT with Poker Stars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is coming back at the you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of this year to kind of streamline that

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<v Speaker 1>that process. So all in all, I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very good thing, and it's going to you know,

416
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<v Speaker 1>if if this is the only like noticeable change. I

417
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<v Speaker 1>know people have thought since it was announced that gigipover

418
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<v Speaker 1>acquired the w SP that you're gonna like walk into

419
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<v Speaker 1>Paris Horseshoe and it's going to be like a complete

420
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<v Speaker 1>different thing. If if everything is the same, but this

421
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<v Speaker 1>is the only change, it's a massive win. Okay. Yeah,

422
00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Like so I just want to make that clear, and

423
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<v Speaker 1>it's very cool. And listen again, if you are out there,

424
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<v Speaker 1>if you're in Vegas, I would try and get this

425
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<v Speaker 1>this stuff done early. You know, is there like a

426
00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:22.359
<v Speaker 1>date when you can already can you go down there today?

427
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<v Speaker 2>No? May fifteenth, I believe is the first thing.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Well, that gives you essentially two weeks yeah ahead, So

429
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<v Speaker 1>I would, you know, go down there, like get to

430
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<v Speaker 1>get this stuff in order, Like you don't want to,

431
00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:33.559
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to show up May. What is it

432
00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.599
<v Speaker 1>May twenty seven, May twenty eighth, and there's that massive

433
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<v Speaker 1>line of all the people wanting to play the mystery, Like,

434
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<v Speaker 1>so go down there and get this stuff done. I

435
00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:41.799
<v Speaker 1>think you and I will obviously try and do that.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I uh, I'm just kind of playing around with the app,

437
00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.599
<v Speaker 2>and I went to my much. You know, you can

438
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<v Speaker 2>make your own story in the app. It's basically kind

439
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<v Speaker 2>of like a Twitter feed. So I posted something the

440
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<v Speaker 2>other day. You know, you can kind of post updates

441
00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>in the event you are asking questions. I don't know

442
00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.599
<v Speaker 2>who's really going to respond to you, but when you

443
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<v Speaker 2>click you know, your story or your profile page, there's stats.

444
00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously this says for me, this player has

445
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<v Speaker 2>no data. I'm assuming people that have used this or

446
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:11.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, have a GG proger account, we'll have some

447
00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.039
<v Speaker 2>data there. So you know, once I bust the colossus

448
00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:17.039
<v Speaker 2>in the first level, that's probably going to say zero

449
00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:20.000
<v Speaker 2>from one. It's got my first story. But then the

450
00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:26.279
<v Speaker 2>third tab staking you know, it says my staking well

451
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.400
<v Speaker 2>has a typo there, but staking statics. I'm assuming that's

452
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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be statistics. But it also has my purchase history.

453
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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's kind of interesting that you know

454
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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be kind of public. I'm not

455
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<v Speaker 2>sure what the the general public is going to think

456
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<v Speaker 2>of that.

457
00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Will that all be public?

458
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm assuming you can. Well, let's check.

459
00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's see if we can access someone else's story. Well,

460
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I guess you know, whether it's okay, I'm looking at

461
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.039
<v Speaker 2>this person. Yep, I clicked on t con two four.

462
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<v Speaker 2>He has a story that says will Stacks be blinded off?

463
00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:08.680
<v Speaker 2>He's got a response there from someone kep Math should

464
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<v Speaker 2>be in this app responding to everybody. But if I

465
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<v Speaker 2>click staking, it says no staking information.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Nowhere are you looking? By the way?

467
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so are you on the app? Yeah?

468
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<v Speaker 1>I click on my profile, click.

469
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<v Speaker 2>On your profile, then click on my story. Got it,

470
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and then you'll see the three tabs. Now, that person

471
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I just clicked on maybe he's never bought anything on

472
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>poker Steak or that maybe it is public. But I'm

473
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.119
<v Speaker 2>just that's that's interesting, whether it's whether it is public's

474
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool or if it's just private. I guess we'll

475
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:38.960
<v Speaker 2>find out as the kind of series kicks off.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Also, you would you would think that the the stats

477
00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>tab they would just populated with all like past data, right,

478
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, now that you own the WSB brand, right,

479
00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you should you should just basically import that data, yeah,

480
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you have it all there. So like if

481
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<v Speaker 1>I were to go into let's say, Daniel lagron Is,

482
00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I could see, like, you know, he's got seven bracelets,

483
00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>he's won this many millions, you know, this many cash is,

484
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like all all that sort of stuff. I think you

485
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:06.799
<v Speaker 1>would you would put that in there butt you know,

486
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's one of those like this is version one

487
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.559
<v Speaker 1>of the app, you know, where you're going to get

488
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>version you know two, whatever, et cetera. It's going to

489
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>go like that. So so yeah, I also wonder if

490
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you mentioned the story section, you know, and

491
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:20.599
<v Speaker 1>it prompts you in here it says, how's the tournament going?

492
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Is this going to be similar to like the Poker

493
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.839
<v Speaker 1>News my stack where can you can I enter just

494
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>like just my chip count? And then it feeds into

495
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>let's say the WSP dot com reporting. You know how

496
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>is that going to work? You know, you and I

497
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 1>have both heard that they're exploring talking to different reporters.

498
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.119
<v Speaker 1>So is the plan to ultimately take all the reporting

499
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 1>in house? I mean, how is that going to work?

500
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's definitely there's a lot of like

501
00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>breadcrumbs that are out there.

502
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you've got to do your your chip counts,

503
00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.440
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's more they want kind of people

504
00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:03.559
<v Speaker 2>posting in a way my stack, but like without the

505
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 2>chip count so posting questions, posting photos, you know, generating

506
00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a bit of kind of content through the app, and

507
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 2>like you can already see if you kind of you know,

508
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 2>there's hashtags. There's for different events, as there's an overall

509
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>WSP hashtag. You know, there's people can kind of browse

510
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the feed. You know, the post I had last week

511
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 2>has a couple of thumbs up, a couple thumbs down.

512
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Quite rude. But I think that's kind of the goal.

513
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Whether we can put in counts, I'm not sure is

514
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>good because I think, you know, we've both experienced firsthand

515
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.759
<v Speaker 2>the issues of my stack abuse.

516
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think my stack is goaded.

517
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I do too, But like I guess the only

518
00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>issue with my stack. Is is the abuse and you know,

519
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 2>being able to put yourself at a million chips in

520
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 2>the first level.

521
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think the abuse has actually been nullified,

522
00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not really a thing anymore. I mean only

523
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was a thing for sure, But I think it's gotten

524
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>much better now, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.

525
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:09.279
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean I clicked this little story's button.

526
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole bunch of people in They're asking questions

527
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 1>or they're just chatting or whatever the heck. I mean,

528
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 1>it's essentially like a Twitter feed, but within this app.

529
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna see if I can tag a play

530
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna make a post right now. I mean,

531
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I also I can tag, Oh, I can tag players?

532
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Can I tag you? What's your name on this? Donald?

533
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. So I go into my profile

534
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:35.559
<v Speaker 1>and at the top left, I'm g g six space AJJ.

535
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, how many hell is that? Okay, mine's Timothy Duckworth.

536
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>So how many ratification steps have you done?

537
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So if I click on that, it says this

538
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is it says what is this idea? You must be

539
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a registered WSP player to participate in all wa Spy

540
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>related competitions whatever, Like you know, the idea is the

541
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>wsp player ID automatically generated when signing up for the app.

542
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But what's interesting is I mean, I feel like they

543
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.799
<v Speaker 1>should have my stuff on file because if I go

544
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to my story and then I click my staking, like,

545
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a whole bunch of staking stats from my

546
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>time on poker Steak, like events sold one oh two,

547
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 1>number of investors six seventy three, current available steaking seven,

548
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, I have a bunch of stuff

549
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 1>in there. So I feel like this should already just

550
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be tied in. I also don't like, and this is

551
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 1>also something that I didn't like with poker Steak is

552
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that when you do sign in with your your GG pass,

553
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 1>it gives me at least my name that I have

554
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>on the club gg app, which is Daisy Duke, which

555
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>is after my dogs. But like, why why can't it

556
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 1>be Why shouldn't it be a photo of me and

557
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 1>my name?

558
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>It is? That's what mine is, minds me and a

559
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>cowboy hat and my.

560
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mine, mine's mind's the picture of a dog and

561
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a Daisy Duke.

562
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Go to profile that you can have display name or nickname.

563
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Nickname would be Daisy Duke. Real name would be Don Repeats,

564
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 2>And you can change the photo right there, and I

565
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>changed the photo. I went to my display name because

566
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming when let's say we both play the mistream millions, right,

567
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 2>mine would say have a photo of me and have

568
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Timothy Duck with you, alas would have a picture of

569
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>a dog and Daisy Duke. Yeah, I don't know.

570
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it should just default to real name.

571
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it should, but maybe there's maybe some legal

572
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>reasons why it's you can get to choose.

573
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whatever, legal All right, we've done enough going through

574
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>this app. But I mean you guys should do basically

575
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>what Tim and I just did is play around with it.

576
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>That way, you familiarize yourself with the app. You're ready

577
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to go for the summer. The more people that you

578
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>know are up to speed with how the app operates

579
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and all that already have it on their phone, et cetera,

580
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the faster the entire summer process is going to go

581
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. So my recommendation is to get the app,

582
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>play around with it a little bit. Of course, if

583
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you have any questions. I mean, he gets blown up

584
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but probably hit up keV Math on Twitter

585
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>or just you know dump it in the app app,

586
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 1>as is evidence by the fact that there are a

587
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions in the app already. That's another thing,

588
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>by the way, they should they definitely.

589
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Need a dedicated support.

590
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there needs to be somebody in this

591
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>app NonStop responding to these questions.

592
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

593
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, it's just like basically every time it

594
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>comes in, you know, a ticket needs to go through

595
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to whoever or somebody is just constantly in the app

596
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just you know, firing stuff away obviously. I mean that

597
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 1>could be Kevi Math, yes, but it also should not

598
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 1>be Kevi Math because he's doing a business business.

599
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I've seen I clicked a random story, I've seen him

600
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>responding to someone's question. So he's in the app, but

601
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>he is answering questions. Shout out to Kevi Math for

602
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>double duty Twitter and WSPS.

603
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>He should have an increased salary. I would hope if

604
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he's doing this and that keeping with the WSP, there

605
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of tournament rules that are new slash

606
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>updated for twenty twenty five that we just wanted to

607
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>hit on. The one that's being talked about the most

608
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 1>is the one that has to do with electronic devices

609
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 1>and what they're doing. How about this, I'll just read

610
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 1>the rule, okay, and then we'll discuss. So, once participants

611
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 1>have reached the final three tables in any tournament, all

612
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>approved electronic devices must be removed. An announcement will be

613
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>made to participants once they have reached the final three

614
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 1>tables to remove all such electronic devices. Failure to do

615
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>so will result in penalties up to and including disqualification.

616
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 1>So this could be twenty seven players left, This can

617
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>be twenty four players left, twenty one players left. It

618
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>just depends what the tournament is, and then you're going

619
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:49.039
<v Speaker 1>to have to be electronic device less going forward. I

620
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 1>find this a little bit interesting. I mean, on the surface,

621
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a good thing, but I don't know. Like

622
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>part of me is like, if you're if you're promoting

623
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 1>people play all these WACIP online events, then what happens

624
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>if somebody also makes the final three tables of a

625
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>tournament while they're doing that? Yes, that is one thing.

626
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Another thing is like I just feel like, so, for example,

627
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna lose Daniel and the grandeou vlogs if

628
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he makes the final three tables of an event.

629
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>It's him, They're gonna let me.

630
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>But okay, but that's okay. That's a separate issue, is that,

631
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, doing something for something something for somebody else.

632
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, I feel like this issue would

633
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>be better solved if you just had dedicated floor person

634
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>for the final three tables of a tournament, and then

635
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 1>that person can essentially watch things, you know, like just

636
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 1>make sure that people aren't on their phones on you know,

637
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 1>the different solver apps or whatever the it is, you know,

638
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.279
<v Speaker 1>because that's what that's what this is geared towards, you know,

639
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 1>getting rid of right. So so yeah, I don't know.

640
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I still do feel like there is

641
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 1>a bit of an overreaction from what happened at the

642
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Spin Event final table last summer with Jonathan Tomayo and

643
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Dominic Niche with the laptop on the rail sort of stuff.

644
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 1>And I just I don't know, I don't I don't

645
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>fully get it, you know.

646
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's good to they're trying to

647
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>protect everybody, they're trying to protect players, completely get it.

648
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fine. We do some of this stuff

649
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>in the studio, but the difference between the studio and

650
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the World Series of Poker is that it's our environment.

651
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>We control everything, and it's much easier for us to

652
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>execute World Series. We're gonna have three you know, we're

653
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a tournament plane down at three tables. It's

654
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna be over in say the gold section. There's another table,

655
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the main stage. There's three of those.

656
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>You know that who's taking the phones? Where we're putting

657
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 2>the phones. There's a safety issue here with you know,

658
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>people being able to access other people's devices, or are

659
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 2>they going to just let the players kind of keep

660
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>them in their pockets.

661
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Probably just keep them in their pockets. I would guess

662
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>yea put out, it's just whatever.

663
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So then the other issue is obviously you have you know,

664
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>people vlogging, you know, you have people. I just think

665
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be hard to manage. I think the

666
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>motivation behind it is fine. How efficient or how effective

667
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the rule will be will be kind of a bit

668
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>more up for discussion. Obviously, when we do film feature tables,

669
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>we do take the phones, but that's from a couse

670
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>of medic reason than anything.

671
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I also think it's interesting, just from a macro standpoint

672
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 1>that everything in society has trained us to be on

673
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 1>our phones like mobile first, right, including things like basically

674
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 1>plus app, you know, doing the poker news my Stack app,

675
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and doing the live reporting like all that sort of stuff, right,

676
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, playing w CB dot com events on your

677
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>phone on mobile, Like everything is is geared towards we

678
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 1>are a mobile first society. So what I'm getting at

679
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>is like I think people are just naturally going to

680
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>pull their phones out of their pockets because that's just

681
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>how they're They're like trained, like that's that you know,

682
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 1>you just pull it out. You don't even realize that

683
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 1>you just pulled it up, right exactly, Like I mean,

684
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>can't you do things like if this is obviously geared

685
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 1>towards the whole solver thing and using those sorts of

686
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>programs and whatnot to gain an advantage? I mean, can't

687
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 1>you just like geo blockgto wizard dot com.

688
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going.

689
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 1>To have an app like you have to go to

690
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 1>actual gto Wizard dot com Like that's how it works.

691
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 1>So like, can't you just geoblock that website for in

692
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 1>the Horseshoe and Paris?

693
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So yes, But here's the other issue, And I kind

694
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>of had a long discussion with some of that plays

695
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 2>about it is that, you know, if we're talking about cheating, obviously,

696
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the first way you cheat is okay. The second way

697
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you cheat is you're looking at these apps while playing poker. Okay,

698
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>so that's easy to outlaw you just no phones, et cetera.

699
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>But then, well, are we taking away Apple watches too?

700
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>The other part is that, okay, we're not taking away

701
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Apple watches or garment watches or any other smart device.

702
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 2>You got those metaglasses. Now, how about you know you

703
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 2>can still receive texts, you know, like people can text

704
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 2>you charts or text you yes or no answers, So

705
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can step away from the table and

706
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 2>say something like, you know, ace ten cut off seventeen

707
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>bigs seven handed to your friend or your coach, who

708
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>can then go access gtr wizard or whatever. You know,

709
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>however they're looking whatever charts they're looking at, and just

710
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>send you a text back that just says fold twenty

711
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>eight percent. Right? Isn't that technically also cheating? I would

712
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>say yes. So it's like, where do we draw this

713
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 2>line with how to kind of protect and outlaw certain

714
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 2>devices or certain things. And it's tough. I think it's

715
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>way too It's way more complicated than people really want

716
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to think about. You know, they've just kind of slapped

717
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>this rule up and think that covers everything. But I

718
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>don't really think it does. And so for us in

719
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the studio, I'm kind of and I'm not the only one,

720
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.559
<v Speaker 2>like Paul, like the IRA people are also just kind

721
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 2>of hands off because there's too much to this. There's

722
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 2>too many levels to what players can do or what

723
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 2>they really want to do if they had to.

724
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I also just I mean, maybe I'm just

725
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a complete idiot and I'm naive, but I feel like

726
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I've been around enough poker, I've played enough poker that

727
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think solvers are actually an issue. Like

728
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't, like, I like, no one is.

729
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I have I have yet to see someone. I mean, listen,

730
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 1>if somebody is on a solver in the middle of

731
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>a hand at the WSP or at any tournament, Okay,

732
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I totally get it, but like that's the most obvious

733
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>thing because they have to like have their phone in

734
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 1>their hand, which is you can't have your phone in

735
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 1>your hand when you have a lot anyway, Like it

736
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you have a solver open, or if

737
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, talking to your wife about what dinner

738
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>is later tonight, like it doesn't matter, you know, So

739
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like that is I think that solves that rule. Now,

740
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>if somebody wants to look at a solver like in

741
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 1>the middle of like after they fold a hand, how

742
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>is that any different than when a golfer shoots a

743
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>t shot and then discusses with his caddy what he's

744
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna do on the next shot, or gets up to

745
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the green and he spends fifteen minutes, you know, trying

746
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 1>to look at the lay of the land to see

747
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>how the ball is going to roll, and talking with

748
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>his caddy and all this sort of like how like well,

749
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 1>like I just I don't I don't really see that.

750
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't see the solver stuff as an issue. Now, Listen,

751
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 1>there are other ways to get advantages, there are other

752
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 1>ways to cheat, like that sort of stuff I understand,

753
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and that sort of stuff, of course needs to be

754
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>addressed and ruled out. But as it pertains to the

755
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>actual solvers, I don't know. I still personally feel like

756
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 1>all of this and it's not just the WS beast off,

757
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it's everywhere. It's just a bit of an overreaction to

758
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that happened with Tomaiyo and Dominic Niche, Like,

759
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does it matter if like you're sitting

760
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>across the table from me and you're looking at what

761
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to do with your ten big lines? I mean, like

762
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily maybe I just don't care that much

763
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 1>about like what people are doing. And if I and

764
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been in a spot, you know, a couple of

765
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 1>years ago, I remember pretty distinctly, I was playing the Colossus.

766
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 1>This was like maybe the first year it moved a horseshoe,

767
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and the guy on my direct left was looking at

768
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a solver and this was obviously before all the solver

769
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 1>stuff like really became like a hot issue, and he

770
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 1>kept looking at it between hands. So in my mind,

771
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, Okay, I have a decent idea of

772
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 1>how these solvers operate because I look at them and

773
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 1>try and study them. So I now know how this

774
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna play. Like, so I know that he's got

775
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>eighteen big blinds over there. If he three bet jams

776
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>on me, his range is going to be probably pretty

777
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>confined to X because he's just looking at a solver

778
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>versus like if I'm looking at some guy who you know,

779
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>just got off the horse rode in from Texas, shout

780
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 1>out to all the cowboys out there, yourself included. Like

781
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, that guy could be shoving with

782
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, King Douce Off because he just looks at

783
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>me and says, this kid doesn't have it, like you know.

784
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, you know, I feel like it kind

785
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 1>of goes both ways. I don't know. I just I

786
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like one side of the entire community wants to

787
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 1>make poker like this, this elite mind sport. But then

788
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the community is like, no, you

789
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>can't have the things that make it this elite mind sport.

790
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 1>It needs to just be a peer to peer game.

791
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe I'm just the idiot on an

792
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>island here and I'm just you know, I.

793
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Think we should want everyone to get better. I think,

794
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it helps the industry. I can

795
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>see the arguments to it not helping the industry, but

796
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, people getting better, I think they're going to

797
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 2>play more, events will keep growing, prize schools will keep

798
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.280
<v Speaker 2>going bigger. So I don't think we should be opposed

799
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to people wanting to improve, just like an athlete wanting

800
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 2>to get uh, you know, a running coach or wanting

801
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to get a strength and conditioning coach. This is kind

802
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 2>of a version of that.

803
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I also think along those lines that it's the way

804
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that we've as I'm talking like we as a community

805
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 1>have gone about this entire issue. It's almost like when

806
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you see someone looking at a solver in a tournament,

807
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, that guy's a cheater. Like, no, he's

808
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 1>not a cheater, Like he's he's he's Like it's like

809
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>if you said this athlete is is going to do

810
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the bench press, you know, or he's doing some squats

811
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 1>because he wants to like get better little lower by strength,

812
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Like no, in his in his downtime or whatever, He's

813
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 1>not that's a cheating, Like, it's just he can actively

814
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>working to get better. So like, don't don't classify these

815
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.599
<v Speaker 1>people as as cheats, which I think it's just very

816
00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>easy to to give that sort of characterization and that's

817
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>not that's not how this should be.

818
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Everyone. The thing is everyone has access to gto wizard.

819
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>They can go you know.

820
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say one thing quickly? I know and

821
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:14.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not just now I'm just you. You said it,

822
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna bring it up. It's we always default

823
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 1>to gto Wizard. I think everyone does that, but it's

824
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not just gto Wizard. There are I'm always about there,

825
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's it's not just like.

826
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>So everyone can access off to the.

827
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 1>First of all, apologies on behalf of the community, the

828
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.639
<v Speaker 1>gto Wizard, because I feel like they catch the brunt

829
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of this stuff because people are just

830
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>like gto Wizard, G Wizard, GT Wizard when we should

831
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>just say like solvers.

832
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Solvers, Yeah, solvers, chots, whatever it is. Everyone has the

833
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 2>access to these. They can pay the subscription, pay the membership,

834
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. You just have to put in the

835
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 2>time yourself to to understand how to use it. Now,

836
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about poker and how you spend a lot

837
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 2>of time trying to get better at poker. Me the

838
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>complete opposite. Don't want to spend my time looking at charts.

839
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to really judge anyone for doing

840
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that because that's my decision. If I really really cared

841
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 2>about getting better and wanting to be some high stakes hero,

842
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I would spend the time looking at charts and understanding

843
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, but I don't. But everyone has equal chance.

844
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>It's not like gto Wizard or op to Pipoker or

845
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>run at Once is captive a certain amount of users.

846
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Anyone can go sign up to these sites. So just

847
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>like anyone go lift a you know, lift a dumbella

848
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 2>running outside.

849
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Going back to what we talked about the beginning of

850
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the episode Ozzie Rules Football, I know you have obviously

851
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 1>taken a lot of like prioritization with your health and fitness.

852
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Anyone can do that when they go to play Ozzie

853
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Rules Football. People shouldn't show up to Ozzie Rules Football

854
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday or whatever the heck it is and be like, oh,

855
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Tim's cheating because he just bought a sauna and he

856
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>has a personal trainer, and he has all this gym

857
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>equipment and whatever. Like you said, everyone has access to

858
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 1>that if you want to do that, like and just

859
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 1>because Tim does that and now can outperform you on

860
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the field, doesn't mean Tim is now cheating. Like I

861
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just I just find it again a little bit weird

862
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know, we want poker to like grow and whatever,

863
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>yet we just we kind of like we have these

864
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>opposing things working against one another. Again, you know, poker

865
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>is commonly equated to golf. Golf has caddies and you're

866
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>constantly talking with your caddy in between shots and trying

867
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to figure stuff out and get tips and whatever. You know,

868
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Like on in regular sports, you have coaches who are

869
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.360
<v Speaker 1>helping you and talking to you and possibly calling time

870
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>out and you know, being like, hey do this do that?

871
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Drawing stuff up on a board. Like you know, in football,

872
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback gets off the field and goes over and

873
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 1>he's either looking at a tablet immediately or he's looking

874
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>at printed pieces of paper that show what the defense

875
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 1>was doing. Like, so, I don't know. I just don't

876
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.559
<v Speaker 1>think that the solver issue is really that big of

877
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 1>an issue in live poker, you know, again, in the

878
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 1>middle of a hand, like if I'm like pulling up

879
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>my phone on the turn saying like, hey, this guy

880
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just bet twenty five percent, what do I do with

881
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this hand? I get it. That's completely not allowed. But

882
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that's also that's not allowed anyway, because you can't have

883
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 1>your phone out period, like when you're doing that. So

884
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Now you want to talk about online poker,

885
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 1>completely different universe, and I think that stuff is much

886
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 1>more important to be addressed there, Like it's just rampant

887
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 1>in terms of what everything is happening now live. I

888
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just personally don't really see it that

889
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>often in terms of it being a very bad thing.

890
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And again maybe I'm just a total idiot. And but

891
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>just listen, don't have your phones out with three tables

892
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 1>left in a tournament at the divsp'. That's the gist

893
00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of this, bringing it back full circle. I also wonder,

894
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>is I don't I didn't see it in the rules

895
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>or maybe maybe I just missed it because I was

896
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of just skimming them. But is is this one

897
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of those things where you can like get up and

898
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 1>move to Like if I want to get on the phone,

899
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>can I like walk to somewhere?

900
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming you can like step away from the table.

901
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I'm just I know that I know that

902
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they have a similar rule, if not the exact same

903
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 1>rule at WIN when you get down to the final

904
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>three tables, like you can have your phone, but you

905
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 1>can like get up and like go to the aisle

906
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you know, and then use your phone. You

907
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>know that sort of thing. So I just find that's

908
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that interesting or what I'm assuming that would can Can.

909
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I listen to music?

910
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I would guess no.

911
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 2>If but if my phone's away, right, I'm not touching

912
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 2>my phone, I can still listen to music.

913
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, But I mean that's going to.

914
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Be an issue because some people like need something in

915
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the ear and so that's just too bad.

916
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 1>I actually think that like having headphones in is probably

917
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 1>an easier way to do something nefarious than having your

918
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 1>phone out. How do I if you have your iPods in,

919
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 1>your ear pods in, how do how do I know

920
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.119
<v Speaker 1>you're actually listening to the music in your pocket or

921
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not just talking to some guy upstairs or on

922
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 1>the rail, or like how do I know that? Like

923
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that's different?

924
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, like you can just be on mute,

925
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.480
<v Speaker 2>right or you know, yeah, or someone's talking to me

926
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.719
<v Speaker 2>or I'm on a FaceTime call. I think the biggest issue,

927
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and we've seen it a little bit in our studio

928
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm wondering how to affect the World series is

929
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 2>these new the new metaglasses that people wear where you

930
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:39.920
<v Speaker 2>can scan food and you can I don't know what.

931
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think those should be allowed either.

932
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the capabilities aren't, you know, you know,

933
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 2>not to put anyone on the spot. Dane or Groundo

934
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>has a pair he was using by the studio, but

935
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>more for fun. He was like, how many calories is

936
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in this bag of nuts? And you know he he

937
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he brought up himself. He can correct me

938
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong that. You know, these could be an issue,

939
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 2>but he bought them for obviously, not to cheat them

940
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 2>to like his life. And you know, I've seen other

941
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>people wear them. I've seen some media people in the

942
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 2>poker industry have a pair. I think they're kind of cool.

943
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't wear glasses, so it's not something I'm going

944
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 2>to spend. Who knows how much they cost on. But

945
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that's I think the more of an issue than anything,

946
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you can I think you can bring

947
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.159
<v Speaker 2>up charts and videos on the screen so only you

948
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>can see it. No one else could tell that. You know,

949
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>you're watching something or looking at a chart or a

950
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>solver or whatever. I think that's something to really watch

951
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 2>out for and kind of keep your eyes on in

952
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the punt going forward.

953
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I would specifically ban those those types

954
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>of glasses. I don't think that they should be allowed.

955
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 1>You know. Now I know somebody who has them might

956
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 1>be like, well, they can just be sunglasses if I

957
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>just turn them off. Well, you know, I'm not chattering those,

958
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you know any sort of like I mean smart classes

959
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>is that what they're called. I don't even know, but

960
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>those I would for sure just put like a one

961
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent ban on those. I would also I do

962
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like banning you know, headsets and and you know, music

963
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.320
<v Speaker 1>devices and stuff like that, you know, because again I

964
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily know what's what's in them. You know what

965
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>if you just make a track that's literally just you

966
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about tournament ranges on reports.

967
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh think of that. Yes, that is actually and.

968
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 1>That's like you know that could happen. Yeah, So it's

969
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's like that's just ridiculous. So I would just

970
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>again like you have to like there are certain things

971
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 1>that yes, I think you're just like this is all

972
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>banned over here, like you can't you can't use this,

973
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>this and this like end of story, see you later.

974
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Like that's just how it is. And if you're somebody

975
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 1>who you know, I would even go as far to

976
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>say like okay, like let's say somebody shows up with

977
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 1>those metaclasses and they are ultimately it's final three tables,

978
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.559
<v Speaker 1>So they're on a feature table. Let's say, and they say, well,

979
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I have this eye thing, I need sunglasses and whatever.

980
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 1>If I'm the operator, I have like like when you

981
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 1>go to a nice restaurant and you're supposed to wear

982
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 1>a coat, but you don't have a coat, they go

983
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 1>pull a coat out of the back and they say,

984
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 1>put this on. You know, so I would have a

985
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 1>bunch of glasses, you know. They would they would probably

986
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>be just those cheap sunglasses and they would have they

987
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>would have doubicippy on the side, and I would say, here,

988
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you can wear these if the light bothers you, like,

989
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, like that sort of thing, like because that's

990
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>what I don't want people to like make that claim. Well,

991
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, medically I have to wear these glasses or

992
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the light bothers me or whatever, Like, Okay, here's some glasses.

993
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Have fun. You're not wearing these, Like you're not wearing

994
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the ones with the camera on the side that's just

995
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>not happening, or the glasses that have the the audio earbuddets.

996
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 1>You're also not wearing those, you know. So I think

997
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.519
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. I'm fine with, like totally banning that,

998
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I get it, you know, But I think the phone

999
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>thing is like kind of like, I mean, I don't know. Again,

1000
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it's maybe this is just me being naive. I just

1001
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.679
<v Speaker 1>don't personally see it, or maybe I just don't necessarily

1002
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>care as much about somebody being on a solver. And

1003
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and I also kind of think that that thought is

1004
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 1>shared with a fair amount of the high stakes community.

1005
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Again because in the studio, like, huh, we don't we

1006
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 1>don't say no, you can't look at a solver. All

1007
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 1>these everyone in the studio knows you could possibly look

1008
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 1>at a solver. Now, of course you can't do it

1009
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the hand. We totally get it.

1010
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 1>But like, you know, like so I just find that interesting.

1011
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 1>So again, it's one of those things where this rule

1012
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is now on paper. We're gonna have to see how

1013
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:46.039
<v Speaker 1>it plays out. I'm guessing though it's it's probably pretty

1014
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>good overall, both from policing it on the operator side

1015
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and then also from the players side, because so much

1016
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>was made of the the Jonathan Tomiow and Dominic Niche

1017
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 1>thing at the WSP Main Event final table. You know, again,

1018
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that was the biggest stage to actually have that happen on.

1019
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think a lot of people are gonna kind

1020
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 1>of just not do it anyway. You know, They're going

1021
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>to be like, I don't want to be that guy.

1022
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get called out, you know, I

1023
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be decued, you know, I don't want

1024
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to have a penalty whatever it may be. Now, this

1025
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>next rule though, this one' let's go baby. A participant

1026
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>who intentionally dodges his or her blinds when moving from

1027
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 1>an existing seat must forfeit both blinds and the big

1028
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>bine ante if applicable, and will receive a one round penalty.

1029
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Give these people a seven round penalty for all I care.

1030
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>These people are the worst of the worst.

1031
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Wait did the blinds go though? Is it a splash

1032
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>pot or put it in the pot?

1033
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Who cares? I mean maybe they just take them off

1034
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the table. I don't know, But who I don't care

1035
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>where it goes. That person does not get them. It's

1036
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it's ridiculous when you see these people walking around like

1037
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>with their head up, acting confused, and you're like, bro,

1038
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>your table is right okay, or your table is here

1039
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sitting at it sit your ass down and

1040
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 1>let's I.

1041
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Find the funniest one is when someone has like who

1042
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.320
<v Speaker 2>comes up to a full table and they're like, what

1043
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 2>table numbers this? I'm like, buddy, there's no seat here,

1044
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 2>just like, yeah, are they are?

1045
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.679
<v Speaker 1>They are? They come up to that table and they say, hey,

1046
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>what table numbers this? And then they they like they

1047
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.719
<v Speaker 1>come up. Let's say the table's four, and the dealers

1048
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.599
<v Speaker 1>like table four, and the guy has like card sixty four,

1049
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and then he goes to the next table. What table's

1050
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>number is this? Bro? You have sixty four? We just

1051
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.599
<v Speaker 1>told you it's four. It's probably on the opposite side

1052
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 1>of the room, Like, what what are we doing here?

1053
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I guess my first question is, yeah,

1054
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 2>what happens with the blinds that should be in the rule?

1055
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Should are they? Are they removed from the tournament? Or

1056
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>they made as a splash pot? If they're a splash pot,

1057
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>think about it. You see someone walking around and you're

1058
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>on the bottom with aces, right, you're gonna just call

1059
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 2>the floor up and be like, hey, he's at this table.

1060
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I would as soon it be like the next hand.

1061
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So then like if you have a good hand

1062
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 2>or you have a bandhand. You probably want to you know,

1063
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 2>there's there's some you can do some finagling with that pot.

1064
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I know, I know you like to

1065
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>get into specifics and details more than I do. I'm

1066
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just happy that that this rule is on the

1067
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.119
<v Speaker 1>books and people can look at it and say, no,

1068
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 1>your ass was walking around the tournament area clearly trying

1069
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 1>to miss blinds, like let's go, like, let's let's figure

1070
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this out.

1071
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>And I get Look, I get it, I've gotten I

1072
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>mean I got loss at nap t trying to find

1073
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 2>my table because it was in it. We're in one

1074
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 2>section of the room, and the one table on the

1075
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 2>other side of like the the you know, the little

1076
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>carridors they put in was my table, and bloody you've

1077
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.119
<v Speaker 2>took in. Jeremy Becka's like, are you blind dodging and like, no,

1078
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't know where my hell my table is

1079
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was on the other side of the room,

1080
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>which made no sense. So I get it. It is hot,

1081
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>but you don't go to you can tell when someone's

1082
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 2>dodging blinds. You know they're going to every table they're

1083
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:49.320
<v Speaker 2>going to.

1084
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you can just you can count your face

1085
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and you just like this guy is for sure dodging

1086
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 1>the blinds, like you know, you know what's happening.

1087
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, like, yeah, it's annoying so many people

1088
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>do it. It's at least this is good. This is

1089
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 2>a Maybe one round penalty is not enough. Maybe forfeiting

1090
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 2>both blinds is not enough. Maybe it should be worse.

1091
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I'm I'm for having this rule. I'm

1092
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 1>for actually enforcing it. I think these people are just

1093
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the worst, you know, trying to get this ridiculous advantage.

1094
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Just go to the next damn table, pay the blinds.

1095
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it happens, you know. Like I would also

1096
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 1>add that, you know, even even before this this rule,

1097
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:35.519
<v Speaker 1>because oftentimes this happens because a table broke. If you're

1098
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 1>caught stalling at a table that's about to break because

1099
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to pay the blinds, you should also

1100
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 1>get a penalty.

1101
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Look, I've done that. You should It's it's like stolen

1102
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 2>to get to the money. Okay, it's not.

1103
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. If it's day one a of the

1104
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Colossus and you're asked a stalling no, you should be

1105
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:52.280
<v Speaker 1>get out of here.

1106
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Ok.

1107
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Not not if it's a four and you're looking at

1108
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:59.519
<v Speaker 1>a seven thousand dollars prize jump on a four dollars buying. Okay, understandable,

1109
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I get it. That's within the strategy of what's going

1110
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 1>on here.

1111
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:08.480
<v Speaker 2>There is an installing and it's only really acceptable closing

1112
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 2>in on the money pay jumps, and to a degree,

1113
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.480
<v Speaker 2>if you have like sub ten big blinds or something

1114
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and you're about to get a table breaks.

1115
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I actually have a question. This brings something up. So

1116
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I know some places I would say chief among them

1117
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.079
<v Speaker 1>is the studio. Is that when you get down to

1118
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a certain time on the clock five minutes left right,

1119
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>they pause the clock and they draw for hands so

1120
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 1>that people can't stall for the next blind jump. Whatever.

1121
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.119
<v Speaker 1>What if you did that for table breaks? Hey, this

1122
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 1>table's breaking next, you have two more hands to play,

1123
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 1>like and it's just listen, it's two hands to play,

1124
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 1>or it's whatever hands to play. That's just how it is.

1125
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>But like we're not letting you be, like you come

1126
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>over or it's sometimes they don't announce it, of course

1127
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 1>because they don't want people to stall. But you see

1128
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the guy rocks up with this giant wheelbarrel of racks.

1129
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 1>You know your table's breaking next there's no other tables around,

1130
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, so people you know, might play a little

1131
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 1>bit slower whatever. But what if the floor person just

1132
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.199
<v Speaker 1>be hey, three hands, that's what we're doing, don't I.

1133
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Think it should just be random table break? Well?

1134
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you really do? Can you really do random

1135
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.280
<v Speaker 1>table break at the wsh A P like let's say

1136
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 1>losses when.

1137
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 2>There's no under tables. Once you're in the money, you

1138
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 2>can get to a point where you can start doing it.

1139
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Now do I want to do it with sixty tables left? No?

1140
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:29.719
<v Speaker 2>But you could expand to say ten tables.

1141
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Sure, But that's but that's where I'm saying. Before that,

1142
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 1>could you do you go up to a table and

1143
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.159
<v Speaker 1>you you just high card at the table, Hey one

1144
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 1>through four, pick a number of hands, let's go.

1145
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean that number. I don't know if it's that

1146
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:45.480
<v Speaker 2>vital that like early on in a colossus. I think

1147
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 2>it matters more later.

1148
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.519
<v Speaker 1>In the I mean, listen on the on the the

1149
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:53.920
<v Speaker 1>prioritization total poll, it's probably very low. But what I'll

1150
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.519
<v Speaker 1>say is that if you're trying to improve everything, this

1151
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>is something that you could that could potentially be improved. Sure,

1152
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:01.920
<v Speaker 1>so you know, you go up to the batch of

1153
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.239
<v Speaker 1>tables that you're about to break, you draw, you say, okay, guys,

1154
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you're playing three more hands, don't stall, like, let's let's go,

1155
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's make this happen. And I think that

1156
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that could could could work, you know. So those those

1157
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>are the rules mainly, but the most important rule, of

1158
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 1>course is what we hit on first basby plus app

1159
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>get it, you're gonna need it. Let's go. All right,

1160
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:33.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty five K fantasy is back, baby, and at least

1161
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I am hopefully in it once again. And I say

1162
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.880
<v Speaker 1>hopefully because I have to sell action. I don't play.

1163
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>If I don't sell action, I'm not going to put

1164
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 1>up the whole twenty five K myself. That's just not

1165
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>how this works. We do have a listing posted on

1166
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 1>poker Steak. It's Team dp m D because I will

1167
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>be drafting with friend of the pod Mickey Doft. We've

1168
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 1>already been deep into our research for a couple of

1169
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>weeks now. I'm just kind of trying to do a

1170
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit every single day, so that stuff is happening.

1171
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 1>If you want a piece of the team, no markup,

1172
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of course, never any markup. You can head on over

1173
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to poker steak dot com. You can find the listing there. Again,

1174
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's Team DPMD shares are as low as twenty five dollars.

1175
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I mean, if I listen, if I know

1176
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:25.199
<v Speaker 1>you personally and we've talked in the past, feel free

1177
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to DM me and we can do something on the side.

1178
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>But of course it's a bit easier if we can

1179
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 1>just do everything through poker Steak as much as possible.

1180
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>So would love for everyone to be able to get

1181
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>into the mix and sweat along. Again, if we don't

1182
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 1>sell out, we won't be in. And something I've also

1183
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 1>said is that the year that I don't sell to

1184
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>get in is the year I'm done doing it. I mean,

1185
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I just think, you know, it's like it's like, Okay,

1186
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the run is ended. I'm just gonna move on with

1187
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>my life. There are two rule changes this year, kind

1188
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of small but notable. So one thing that they're gonna

1189
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 1>do is for anyone who wins a bracelet, you're gonna

1190
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>get a twenty five point bonus, So it boosts up

1191
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that first place points total a bit more.

1192
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:13.159
<v Speaker 2>So.

1193
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's a ten k event, first place would

1194
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 1>be one hundred points. With the old rules, first place

1195
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to be one hundred, second place to be ninety, third

1196
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>place to be eighty, et cetera. So you know, the

1197
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.599
<v Speaker 1>jump from like second to first, isn't that meaningful. I mean,

1198
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.039
<v Speaker 1>it's good to have the additional ten points, yes, but

1199
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not really that much. Now this year it'd be

1200
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 1>ninety to one twenty five, so winning like actually matters

1201
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 1>much more, so that's good. The other rule change is

1202
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that so they had the field size bonus was capped

1203
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 1>at eighty one players, the final eighty one players for

1204
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>events that were less than one thousand dollars. This year,

1205
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be events that are fifteen hundred or less.

1206
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>So that includes things like the Mystery Millions, you know,

1207
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.719
<v Speaker 1>which had a massive field bonus last year. It'll include

1208
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>things I think like the Monster Stack, the Millionaire Maker,

1209
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. I would guess those are also

1210
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.320
<v Speaker 1>included in there. Just need to I just need to

1211
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 1>verify I guess if it's if it's fifteen hundred and

1212
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:17.159
<v Speaker 1>lower or fifteen or lower than fifteen hundred. Just need

1213
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to kind of clarify that. But either way, it's going

1214
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to include a few more events for that field bones

1215
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:24.719
<v Speaker 1>not that the field bonus won't be big. It's just

1216
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be harder to achieve because it'll be a

1217
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 1>fewer spots. It'll be capped at the final eighty one entries.

1218
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 1>So we got that. I know you bought a piece,

1219
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>so you're aided, of course. I mean, listen, we won

1220
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing two years ago.

1221
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you better win it this year.

1222
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping. I'm really hoping. You know, last year I

1223
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>felt like we had some unfortunate spots, I would say.

1224
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, obviously everyone knows we drafted Daniel last year.

1225
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows the stuff he goes through because he puts

1226
01:00:57.719 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 1>it on the vlog every single day. And he got

1227
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 1>just in a lot of spots deep in tournaments, which

1228
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.119
<v Speaker 1>you know sucked. And then the other one was, you know,

1229
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Sean Winter. I thought got afft a lot deep in tournaments.

1230
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, most notably was the two hundred and fifty

1231
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.960
<v Speaker 1>K when he had Kings versus Taylor von Kreigenberg's Queens,

1232
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:21.639
<v Speaker 1>and that was for a ton of chips with like

1233
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>two tables left or something, maybe even the final time

1234
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly, but yeah, I mean that would

1235
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 1>have been absolutely massive, massive, massive for us, but you know,

1236
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.519
<v Speaker 1>such as life. But you know there are fewer things

1237
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I find as fun as fantasy poker all somewhere along.

1238
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to join along again, you can

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<v Speaker 1>head on over to poker steak dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find our listing, or you can look at my Twitter page.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been posting about it with the listening there again,

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<v Speaker 1>if I know you personally, if we've you know, done

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<v Speaker 1>some deals or whatever in the past, or maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>bought some action, I don't know, but just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can hit me up with a DM and we

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<v Speaker 1>can do things that way. But it should be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Goo will be streaming the draft once again. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be on what is it Tuesday, May twenty seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, a one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one o'clock. It'll be on the poker Go

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel in addition to poker Go, so you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can check that out. Are you back as auctioneer?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's my call. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a miss Daniel Groner's decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, has he talked to you?

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't. Maybe I'm out. Wow, I may the replace him?

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<v Speaker 1>Know you should do? Is you should send him a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of your haircut and you'll be back there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that might actually definitely force me out.

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<v Speaker 1>So that I think you're in. So so yeah, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five k fantasy. Let's go. Hopefully we get back in there.

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<v Speaker 1>We sell the action that we need to if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to sweat again, poker steak dot com action as

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<v Speaker 1>low as twenty five buckeroos. So let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try and win it again this year. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, we got some news coming out of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Aliam Sirovich kicked out of the Run Good Poker Series

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<v Speaker 1>Best Bet Jacksonville main event. Now I find this a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit interesting. He was kicked out of the I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a twelve hundred dollars buy in main

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<v Speaker 1>event after the dinner break on one of the day ones.

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<v Speaker 1>There were eighty players in the field or eighty entries

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<v Speaker 1>in the field total, there were thirty left, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was the chip leader. From what I understand, they went

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<v Speaker 1>on dinner break, they come back and he's gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's confirmed that he was in fact removed from

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament. Now, a couple things. One, why did they

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<v Speaker 1>wait till the dinner break to get rid of him?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you do this? Now, I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody at the registration cage necessarily knows who the

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<v Speaker 1>heck aliam Sirovich is or everything. You know, they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just working away doing the thing, collecting the money,

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<v Speaker 1>giving you a ticket and moving on. But somebody didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see him in level one be like, uh, hey, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can't play. The other thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>he has cash is at best Bet like in November

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<v Speaker 1>and in January, So like, was this a run good decision?

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<v Speaker 1>But again, why wasn't it made earlier? Was this a

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<v Speaker 1>best bet decision? But then why have you been letting

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<v Speaker 1>him play in other events? So I'm just listen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously what aliam Ssirovitch did and the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really come clean about all the cheating allegations and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't help his cause in any sense. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I just from a venue standpoint, I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering process here, Like, I mean, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let him play, then you know, don't let him play,

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<v Speaker 1>But are you just like I don't know because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the partner said something, but I don't really understand. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you have obviously dealt with this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of commissioner, I mean, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this whole situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, the fact that he has cashes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>within the last few months, shows that he's been allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to play obviously at Best Bet, so it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>it comes more from possibly run Good side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine, nothing against that. Maybe just hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>it a little earlier then dinner break, you know, while

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<v Speaker 2>he's chip leader. That's my only thought on that. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look, who knows. Maybe it's something completely unrelated

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<v Speaker 2>to Run Good you know and Best Bet. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>you know, did something on property that day that was

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<v Speaker 2>out of line, so you know, without the information coming

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<v Speaker 2>from Best Bet or run Good directly, I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of assuming a lot here.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, I mean again, I just find it

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that it seems like they've been the property has

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<v Speaker 1>been letting him play and hasn't really had an issue

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<v Speaker 1>with it, because again, he does have cashes, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you have cashes, you're not cashing every single event, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably played a bunch of other events too. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was very interesting how this was

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<v Speaker 1>gone about. I mean, listen, if the guy's basically banned

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<v Speaker 1>from all of poker, I mean, I'm not gonna necessarily complain,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think a lot of players would,

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<v Speaker 1>given everything that has been alleged to go on with him.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that's the case, that's the case, and if

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<v Speaker 1>that's your stance, that's your stance. Yes, But I also

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<v Speaker 1>just think that, like, it doesn't seem like that's been

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<v Speaker 1>your stance. So I'm just I'm just kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of interesting to bring up. So yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wanted to mention that. And then news just

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<v Speaker 1>dropped today, you know, shortly before we hit the record

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<v Speaker 1>button that Poker Stars is postponing it's Pennsylvania Shared Liquidity.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course we talked about how Pennsylvania joined the

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<v Speaker 1>Multi State Internet Gaming Agreement with Michigan, New Jersey. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's el Aware and Nevada. Also maybe West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>but West Virginia doesn't have poker right now. Anyway, Poker

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<v Speaker 1>Stars is not going to be linking its platform across

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<v Speaker 1>the states, at least immediately. It said it did cite

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<v Speaker 1>global operational priorities for this, So I don't exactly know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means, but I'm guessing we'll find out what

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<v Speaker 1>that means in the coming months, maybe the coming year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even shorter than out the coming weeks. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's that's interesting. I mean, I think the delay

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<v Speaker 1>is I would say, maybe a little bit surprising, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I view Poker Stars as a leader in

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<v Speaker 1>the online poker category. You know. I know, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>things are a little bit different here in the US

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<v Speaker 1>because you only have a few states that are involved,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not as big as rest of the world. But

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<v Speaker 1>the brand Poker Stars, you know, I thought would be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of first and foremost to doing this sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, I do think it's interesting. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>do have New Jersey and Michigan are linked those player pools,

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<v Speaker 1>and Poker Stars does not operate in Nevada at least currently,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe it's something where they want to wait till

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<v Speaker 1>they get into Nevada to join. I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of kind of speculating, but I did find

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<v Speaker 1>that that a little bit interesting, and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of big picture because you have betam JM Poker has

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<v Speaker 1>already done it in linked now betam JM Poker is

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<v Speaker 1>not in Nevada, but you know across New Jersey, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>and Michigan, those pools are linked. And then you have WSOP,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in Nevada and now is linked with Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. I mean, Poker Stars. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's just gonna fall further behind in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not what you want to do, right you

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<v Speaker 1>know if especially like let's say you're in Pennsylvania, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have an option to obviously, you have an

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<v Speaker 1>option to play on all the sites that you want. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you, as somebody who has played online

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<v Speaker 1>poker quite a bit, it's just easier just to have

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<v Speaker 1>all your funds and everything in one plays and fire

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<v Speaker 1>up one platform. That's just easier. Like yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the true diehards and the pros will fire up

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<v Speaker 1>multiple sites and whatever. But a lot of people, I

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<v Speaker 1>think just they play where they play. You know, they

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01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.359
<v Speaker 1>put all their money on the they're five hundred bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>their a thousand bucks on one site and like that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if the biggest and best games are are

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Devasity first because they include Nevada, and

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<v Speaker 1>then second to bet MGM, doesn't Poker Stars kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like fall further down. So I don't know, I found

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<v Speaker 1>the I found the decision to be interesting. That said, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they did say they're not immediately going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, kind of like it seems like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a prioritization thing. So that would tell me that there

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<v Speaker 1>are plans for it. Yes, So so we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, do you have any thoughts here?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just I just my guess is that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there's a lot more things at the forefront for

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<v Speaker 2>pocus Stars around the world then the merge liquidity here

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<v Speaker 2>in the States. They probably also want to see how,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how it works for Nevada, how it works

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, a bet MGM if that comes next,

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<v Speaker 2>and see if there are any issues before they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of launch into it. And yeah, I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it like like they've said, it's not a priority. Their

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<v Speaker 2>priorities obviously real money gaming outside of America, their tours,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you come here, it's going to probably

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<v Speaker 2>be resorts World, the return of the napt which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having this live leading into that is good for boosting

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and satellite qualifiers, et cetera. So maybe not a

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<v Speaker 2>priority now, but hopefully a priority soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean I also do think you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the NAPT I mean, they did say that that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, you know, similar sort of timeframe. I would

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<v Speaker 1>guess November, right, So, I mean I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought that, you know, you want to link the

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<v Speaker 1>player pools because you want to be able to run

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<v Speaker 1>more qualifiers for that event. Now we all know they're

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<v Speaker 1>not in Nevada, yes, but this I would say, Flagship

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<v Speaker 1>North American event is in Nevada, So don't you want

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<v Speaker 1>like bigger qualification pools and satellite qualifiers and all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff like it Just that seems like it

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<v Speaker 1>would make sense. But hey, who knows, there's probably news

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<v Speaker 1>that that is going to come out, So we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keep an eye on this one and see

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes. But right now, you know, Poker Stars

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<v Speaker 1>has put out a statement saying, you know, it is

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<v Speaker 1>postponing the the joining of the Pennsylvania Shared Liquidity, So

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<v Speaker 1>just just kind of kind of flagging that one. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also as it relates to online poker. You got

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<v Speaker 1>Club WPT Goal, which is a sweepstakes poker model similar

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<v Speaker 1>to that that is offered by Global Poker. They are

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly switching from a web based platform to a downloadable client,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're also going to introduce multi table capabilities, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is interesting. Before it was web based, both on

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<v Speaker 1>desktop or on mobile devices, and you could only play

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<v Speaker 1>one table, right, Yeah, So I find it interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like it's a move to

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<v Speaker 1>become a poker site that's geared more towards poker players,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't necessarily disagree with. I'm just pointing that

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<v Speaker 1>out how I'm kind of thinking about things. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you start offering things like multi tables, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing that via a downloadable client, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to benefit more pro players, more serious players, which

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<v Speaker 1>then makes the site harder, which can ultimately kill off

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<v Speaker 1>your player pool. So it's just an interesting development, is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I'm getting at.

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<v Speaker 2>So so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think people kind of thought, okay, like

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01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:29.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, Club WPT Gold is probably fairly soft right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and does this mean that it's only going to get harder?

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<v Speaker 1>And then if it gets harder. Does the player pool shrink?

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<v Speaker 1>And if the player pool shrinks but they want to

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01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:39.159
<v Speaker 1>keep the same revenue, do they then have to increase rake?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's just a big picture, Like how does this

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<v Speaker 1>all play out? I mean, I would I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be against being able to play multiple tables on

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01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Club WBT Gold. Yes, but like you know, is that

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01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:55.119
<v Speaker 1>is that ultimately going to be a positive or negative?

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01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:57.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know. I guess we'll wait to

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01:13:57.399 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 1>see how it plays out. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of agree with everything you said there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're still trying to figure out exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do, you know, different types of promotions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they have their big promotion coming up during

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<v Speaker 2>the summer. But yeah, like it's it's kind of hard

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<v Speaker 2>to gauge their strategic goal. But yeah, definitely leaning into

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<v Speaker 2>more being poker player friendly than anything, especially with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having done polk having you know, Ethan Yall involved, Like

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01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:33.600
<v Speaker 2>more poker player than none.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know, another thing like the Poker Stars news.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, we'll see how this one goes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we have anything else to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>except for the code word, and the code word is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as we tie it all into this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>what sir, you tell me you're the code word guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fitting that it should be W S

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<v Speaker 2>O p APP one word, seven letters, W S O

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01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:08.159
<v Speaker 2>P A p P. Put that in gain additional tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the running to be the Popago podcast

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01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 2>representative in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. All that information

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01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:22.560
<v Speaker 2>PGT dot com, slash dream c you can see all

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01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.159
<v Speaker 2>the promotions that we're running as along with a link

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01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:27.520
<v Speaker 2>to go straight to the podcast one and it's also

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully in the description of this podcast wherever you're listening Spotify, Apple,

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01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Google Podcasts. I don't even know where else we can

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01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.960
<v Speaker 2>listen to podcasts, don't know, but all of us everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that's going to do it for us.

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01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.800
<v Speaker 1>And considering I have to jump on another call that

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<v Speaker 1>i'm late for, we're going to get out of here

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<v Speaker 1>nice and fast. So my name is Donna Peters, his

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<v Speaker 1>name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>next time. So yeah, ja
