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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. What's going on, sir?

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Speaker 2: I munch and done good. How about you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I mean a big hectic this morning,

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but that's understandable. You've got a new haircut. I know

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people can't see it, but those that join us at

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the WSP in what three weeks time, I'm sure we'll

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see this.

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Speaker 2: You need If it lost, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it should definitely last. I mean, you look like

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an idiot, but I think it looks it looks kind

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of great. You definitely look like you play Ossie rules football. Yeah, which,

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by the way, I don't know if if you saw

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on social media, but like there's like this new sport.

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Have you seen this where basically two guys line up

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and they just run at each other a million miles

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an hour and basically kill each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's more rugby because whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well it's that version of the like the slap.

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Speaker 2: Like the slap. Yeah, it looks insane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it looks absolutely wild. I mean these

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guys were forced. Yeah, but didn't you just play something.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna line myself up against a three hundred

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pounds samoan and try and knock him to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but like when you go play, when you play

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Aussie Rules, so like, are there big ass people on

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the other side.

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Speaker 2: Not as much as like a rugby is. It's more

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about this more speed and agility than anything. Yeah, there's

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obviously some big guys, but they're not as effective in

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Aussie Rules. So I just try and run away from

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people and not get tackled. I don't like contact them

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a little bit of a baby, did you guys?

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Speaker 1: I saw something on your Instagram some score that was

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absolutely outrageous.

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Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, we crushed We absolutely destroyed Orange County

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Giants by ninety points, which.

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Speaker 1: Is like, oh Orange County, huh, shout out producer Rich Ryan.

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He's to join the squad Orange County.

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Speaker 2: Let's go look Orange County. Good bunch, a good bunch

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of blugs down there. So I might go play with

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them in a couple of weeks for the thing it's

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called the Sun Cup.

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Speaker 1: If you and where was your team from?

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Speaker 2: Basically, well, Vegas doesn't really have much of a team anymore,

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so I basically just an Arizona Hawk.

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Speaker 1: Now, I would have bet lots of money on the

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Arizona Hawks versus something Orange County when it comes to

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Ousie Wilson, I mean it will wait. Orange County brings

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the heat and.

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Speaker 2: There they've got some good players. But Hawks looking good.

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We're coming for the championship this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we're all over the place to start

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this part. Yes, but I mean I'll give you guys,

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you know, we'll peel back the curtain a little bit.

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Eight forty seven rolls around in the morning. It's it's

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Thursday morning, May eighth. I'm driving home, just picking up

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the coffees on the way home from dropping off the

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kids for the wife, and I Tim text me, are

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we still potting at nine? Immediately I'm like, oh shit,

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I forgot to finish the rundown of the topics. I

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like half did them, and then I kind of sketched

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them out the other day. I forgot got busy whatever.

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So Tim's like, well, what are we going to talk about?

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I mean, and then in my mind I'm like, well,

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if you're hitting me up thirteen minutes before showtime, you

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obviously have not prepared for the rundown. So it does

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not matter what I put on the rundown because you

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have not prepared. So we're just gonna hit on some

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general topics. We're gonna kind of bounce all over the place. Basically,

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we just want to talk to you guys, you know.

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So that's that's why we're here. You know, the dobasipy

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plus app. They announced kind of some some further solidified details.

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I know we hit on that last episode, but we'll

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you know, we'll hit on it again, and it is

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worth hitting on this multiple times because it is so

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important for the summer. You absolutely do need to have

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this app. So you know, we're going to probably drill

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at home with you guys, you know a few more

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times as we go. There are a couple updated WISIP

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rules that we want to touch on. Probably the most

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fun topic of this podcast, twenty five K fantasy. It

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is coming baby, and we are in the dance once again,

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well hopefully, but I'll talk about that when we get there.

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Our old friend, Poker's old friend, Aliam Siirrovich is in

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the headlines. I definitely want to hit on that. And

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then just a couple of news items as it relates

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to some online poker stuff here in the US that

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I'll quickly touch on as we go. So that's going

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to be the show today, and then I don't know,

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maybe we'll talk about some other stuff as always though,

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or at least as we're doing right now. Code words

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will be dropped at some point in this episode. Okay,

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so you need to listen through. You need to find

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those code words, and then you need to go to

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the Glean promotion link will be in the description. You

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can enter those code words. You get those raffle tickets.

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always tells me at least once a week he's like,

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is like legit poker. These guys really know how to play.

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They're doing kind of tricky stuff, you know. It's not

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just like these other poker apps or games where people

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are just flying all in and all that sort of stuff.

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Like it's it's pretty legit. So when I do say

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you can hone your skills, I mean you can definitely

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like hone your skills, Like you can get in there

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and you can actually try, and you can do it

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for of course, very cheap, because the cheapest barrier to

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Just head on over to play PokerGO dot com or

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of course find it in the app store or on

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Google Play. So the WSB plus app is going to

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be mandatory to play poker this summer. You must have

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the was B plus app, You must get an account,

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and then you can register for ANYBASIP event through the app.

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You're also still gonna need the Caesars Rewards cards. So

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I would say, if you're out there now and you're

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planning on playing the Wasp, you can just download the

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app to your phone right now. I know Tim has it,

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I know I have it. You know, plenty of people

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have already done it. You can kind of go through

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the initial process of things, maybe poke around a little bit,

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see what's in there, and then once you get to

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the property in Vegas, if you don't have one already,

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you can pick up a Caesar's Reward card and then

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there's gonna it's gonna prompt you in the app at

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some point when you go to register for a tournament,

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you're gonna have to enter that and link it. So

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so that's gonna happen. So so make sure you're prepared,

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don't you know, show up to the counter or whatever

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and they say, hey, do you have the app? And

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you say, oh no, what's that? Don't do that. Don't

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be that guy or gal. This replaces Bravo Poker Live.

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So I'm guessing no more kiosks at the series, you know,

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So I guess could just quickly as as a side topic,

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I don't know if you saw this, tim but Bravo Poker.

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Bravo released the thing saying like they're gonna update all

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their stuff. Oh and listen, you know I've said it before.

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It's about freaking time, man. That I mean, that is

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like the most archaic thing I've ever seen in my life. Now,

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of course it's it did help at the summer, you know,

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like being able to like just put the ticket in

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and like whatever. I mean. So, yeah, so I'm looking

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at some their the Bravo Poker Live Twitter slash x

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account right now.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of funny is that this graphic also looks

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very old and archaic. I feel like if you were

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moving to update everything, you would splurge on a graphic designer.

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So the graphic looked up to date as well.

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Speaker 2: But they did.

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Speaker 1: They did say We're thrilled to share exciting updates coming

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soon too, Bravo Poker Live. Thanks for your feedback. We're

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adding new features upgrading our platform to make your experience

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faster and seamless. Then they put a couple of bullet

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points of what to look forward to new look and

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feel for the Bravo Poker Live app, tournament registration functionality,

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within the Bravo Poker Live app, improved dashboard to manage,

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manage and fund your Bravo tbic account, and then enhanced

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waiting less sign up with mobile checking and push notifications.

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So I'll say that this isn't only because of what

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WSP is doing with WSP plus app. I would also

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is definitely out there, so you know, I mean, the

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but I would bet that this has been in the

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works for a little bit, and it's funny. One of

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the first comment rule of first, how is your company

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so absolutely terrible at graphic design?

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Speaker 2: Lo o L. I'm reading this comment, when does registration

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open for WSP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they didn't get the message. That's kill Billy g.

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We should just fire him a message and say, hey,

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you're gonna need the WSP plus app, buddy. But listen,

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this is you know, this is why you know when

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I say things like we need like another online poker

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operator here in Nevada, stuff like that, it's because competition

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is good. Competition forced you to improve, to advance, to update.

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Live app is. I feel like they launched it whenever

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in it, we'll see how it is when when the

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thing that they're you know, they got a little kick

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in the butt to actually move things forward. So that's

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a side topic there with all of this. But back

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to the WSP plus app. So it is mandatory, as

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device iOS or Android. You can find it in the

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various stores there. It's all going to be linked via

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what they call a GG pass account. Basically you're gonna

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have one like log in across all the different GG

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poker things, at least as it pertains to me here

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in the US, like poker Steak, which is owned by

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GG Poker, I use the same log in there. That's

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poker steak dot com where you can sell action and

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end by action as well. Also on Club GG, same

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log in there. Now for the WSP plus app going

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to be same log in there, I would imagine for

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those of you in the rest of the world, it's the

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same thing for GG Poker online, right, So all that's

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going to kind of be rolled in together. So if

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in with. If not, you'll have to create a new account.

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Then you pick your event, you're gonna have to connect

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your Caesars reward number as I mentioned, and then you

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can purchase your tournament ticket. Just reading through a lot

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of the stuff on social media, mostly coming from Kevmath,

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shout out to Kevmath for all the work he does

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and answering the bazillion questions that people are firing his way.

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You know, it sounds like everything's just going to be

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in the app. You know, like you're gonna have to

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go basically get it verified and whatever to put money

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in like one time, get your ID verified in all

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of that, and then once you do that, you can

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just click a bunch of buttons in the app. You know,

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that's where your tournament ticket's going to show up, with

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your table and seat. That's where if you're an alternate.

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It's gonna I would imagine it's probably gonna ping you,

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you know, at some point, but like, hey, your alternate

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one fifty four, Maybe it tells you to go to

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a late REGs table. Maybe it just it's all through

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you know, push notifications. It says, hey, you know, your

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table and seat is ready to go here, So that

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sort of stuff. It's also going to be stuff, as

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we talked about in the last episode, where you can

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find the tournament clock, you can find various information on

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the events. So I think it's certainly a welcome addition

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to the DOUBSIP. It's gonna make things much more efficient,

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at least that's how it should operate in theory. Now,

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I'm sure there's going to be some kinks to work

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out at the beginning. You know, I know that they've

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had it in the Bahamas for the past two years.

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The Bahamas is not Vegas. Vegas is fifteen x the Bahamas.

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So it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting right

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from the jump to see what sort of you know,

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kinks they have to work through. Because that first day

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is day one A of the Mystery Millions, and we

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know that thing gets eighteen twenty thousand people, so that's

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gonna be a fun one. One interesting thing that I

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saw when I was playing around with the wasp plus

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app is you can buy multiple tickets to an event.

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Now two things here is that one. I think they

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need to fix it because you can buy multiple pents

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for literally at least you can click the button like

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to go up to like I was able to click

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nine for the Dovaspy main event, and then you click

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purchase and it's like, okay, you own ninety thousand dollars. Well,

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we obviously know that that one's a freezeout, so that's

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gonna be one one update they're probably gonna want to

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do in these next couple of weeks so that you

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know freeze outs are freeze outs, other ones or whatever.

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But listen, I do like the fact, and I always

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wondered in the past when I go up to play

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let's say the Colossus, why can't I just buy three tickets? Yeah,

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and if I don't use them, okay, then it's on

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me to go refund them. But and then you could

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also have it in a thing where it's like okay,

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if you don't if you don't, go get them refunded

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by X date. Let's say it's December thirty, first, twenty

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twenty five at any sort of Caesar's property or whatever. Well,

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then you're just shit out of luck and you lost

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your money. I mean, who cares that? I always thought

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that would be a lot better instead of, you know,

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constantly having to go back to the cage. So this

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it appears like you are able to buy the multiple tickets,

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which would be cool. You know, I would certainly like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that it's anya fine now it kind

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of you know, we don't really need to go line up, right,

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So you don't really need to buy multiple bullets in

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advance because you can buy while busting. True, that is

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very could actually just buy it? Well what else the river?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well what I was thinking is, you know,

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if you buy them in advance, are you like higher

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up on the alternate list? Oh? You know what I mean?

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Like it would essentially if I if I were to

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buy tickets today and no one else has bought tickets

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to Mystery millions. Okay, I'm let's say I buy two tickets,

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I go in, I bust now while I'm playing. It's

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like it's like a a like a tournament or sorry,

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a cash game sign up list where you know, I

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put my name, let's I call in, right, I put

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my name in, and my name is at the top, right.

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But if I'm not there, it just rolls it. So

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like if I'm still in the tournament and I don't

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use that ticket, like if I if I did purchase

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that ticket, I'm technically alternate number one. But if I'm

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still in the tournament or I don't like click like

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you know, accept or go play or whatever it may be.

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Whatever that mechanism is, it just kind of rolls me,

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and it keeps rolling me. But the fact that I

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did purchase it so early, you know, you would think

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that you would stay kind of towards the top, right

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that that that was my thinking behind it. So I

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don't disagree with you, Like I still think it's going

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to be extremely efficiently. You're literally you're gonna bust, You're

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gonna click a few buttons on your phone, you're gonna

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fire back in boom. But I was thinking, you know,

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if you did purchase things ahead of time, then you

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you know, you get up to that alternate list a

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little bit higher. So that was that was my thought there.

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But you know, that's one of the things that I'm

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going to be and I'm assuming everyone's going to be

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kind of keeping an eye on you know, how does

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it work?

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Speaker 2: I am like, go ahead, No, I have a question.

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I'm hypothetically trying to buy into the Mystery Millions right

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now click register, and then before I purchase my ticket,

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it says, please note that you must register for this

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tournament yourself after purchasing the ticket. What does that actually mean?

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Speaker 1: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 2: Is there one more step we need to do? Or like, like,

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you know, we keep discussing this. We've talked to people,

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They're going to give us our table and seat. But

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then I don't understand this, like no, that we must

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register the to one of me yourself.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that's because you haven't verified like your

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ID and stuff yet, Like you haven't done the one

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time like put your money in, like get your idea verified,

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all that sort of stuff ahead of time.

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Speaker 2: Like because I've only done two of the three steps

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for verification because the other one third one is on site.

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So but yeah, that maybe that maybe that's a but

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it would be silly, you know that if we barth

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of this app, we buy it, and then we still

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have to go, you know, do one more step check

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in somewhere. Hopefully they can just send us, you know,

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your yellow section table seventeen, seat four. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Another thing I'm curious about, just being like the

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the I guess kind of nerd I am about this

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sort of stuff is I feel like the entire Divisity

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schedule was completed before they knew that Doviasity Plus was

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going to be available to them. And I say that

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because and I'm sure there's people out there who have

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worked with apps, who have worked with websites, whatever it

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may be, that your dev team can tell you everything

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is load tested until it actually gets tested. Like I mean,

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I remember, like years ago going into the World Series

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of Poker when I was running the Poker News team.

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The first one of the first events was that forty

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K anniversary Nolamit hold Them event, and it was like, No,

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our website's ready, our websites' ready because we had just

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done a bunch of new stuff for the website. No,

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the website's ready, the website's ready, the website ready. Boom,

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website crashes Like in the first hour because you can't

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actually predict it like you can try. You can throw

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a bunch of stuff at it in this sort of

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you know, staging development world, but you can't ultimately be

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prepared for that day one. And why say that is

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like if you knew that do wasit plus app was

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coming to Vegas and the load that's going to be

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on it, would you actually start the dowicip with the

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Mystery Millions? Wouldn't you kind of be like, We're gonna

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start Day one is going to be the employees event

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and that five k opener, and then day two, day three,

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that's when Mystery Millions starts because at least you get

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a test on the first day of you know, probably

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one to two thousand people instead of five to six

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thousand people possibly, right, So that's you know, that's just

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a little interesting nugget there. Now I'll also say this,

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we gotta bear with the DOUBSIP and GG Poker and everyone.

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This is ultimately going to be a very good thing

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for the series. I fully believe that it's going to

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make things way way way more efficient. It's going to

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make the process way way way better. You know, of course,

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there are going to be some quote unquote growing pains

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with things as as you know, one everyone gets used

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to it. Like, there's probably going to be lines initially

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because you're going to have people that are coming to

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the WSB that need to go and do the whole

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ID verification and funding of the accounts like in person. Yes,

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but then after that it should be extremely streamlined. Right,

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So again, just you know, bear with every everything as

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much as possible because ultimately, you know, as the summer

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goes on, this is only going to improve and it's

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going to get better. It is going to be a

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very very good thing. And then in years to come,

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you know, in future summers, this is going to be

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a big benefit. And it's also something where I would

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imagine other operators take on a similar sort of path.

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You know, I know, Tim, you and I have already

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heard the There are various other operators we won't name names,

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but you know they've been poking around being like, hey,

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we should have this too. So yeah, there's that. I know,

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Poker Stars has the Poker Stars Live app, and outside

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of the US, you know, it works very similar to this.

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In the US. There's of course, all the the issues

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you and I did the whole Resorts World NAPT thing,

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and that was kind of like, well, what's the point

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of the app if I have to go stand in

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seventeen different lines and get eighteen different tickets and you know,

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all this sort of stuff. But again, maybe this is

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like this prompt Resorts World and the NAPT with Poker Stars,

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which is coming back at the you know, in the

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second half of this year to kind of streamline that

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that process. So all in all, I think this is

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a very good thing, and it's going to you know,

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if if this is the only like noticeable change. I

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know people have thought since it was announced that gigipover

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acquired the w SP that you're gonna like walk into

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Paris Horseshoe and it's going to be like a complete

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different thing. If if everything is the same, but this

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is the only change, it's a massive win. Okay. Yeah,

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Like so I just want to make that clear, and

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it's very cool. And listen again, if you are out there,

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if you're in Vegas, I would try and get this

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this stuff done early. You know, is there like a

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date when you can already can you go down there today?

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Speaker 2: No? May fifteenth, I believe is the first thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, that gives you essentially two weeks yeah ahead, So

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I would, you know, go down there, like get to

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get this stuff in order, Like you don't want to,

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you don't want to show up May. What is it

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May twenty seven, May twenty eighth, and there's that massive

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line of all the people wanting to play the mystery, Like,

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so go down there and get this stuff done. I

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think you and I will obviously try and do that.

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Speaker 2: I uh, I'm just kind of playing around with the app,

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and I went to my much. You know, you can

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make your own story in the app. It's basically kind

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of like a Twitter feed. So I posted something the

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other day. You know, you can kind of post updates

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in the event you are asking questions. I don't know

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who's really going to respond to you, but when you

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click you know, your story or your profile page, there's stats.

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You know, obviously this says for me, this player has

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no data. I'm assuming people that have used this or

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you know, have a GG proger account, we'll have some

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data there. So you know, once I bust the colossus

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in the first level, that's probably going to say zero

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from one. It's got my first story. But then the

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third tab staking you know, it says my staking well

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has a typo there, but staking statics. I'm assuming that's

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supposed to be statistics. But it also has my purchase history.

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And I think that's kind of interesting that you know

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this is going to be kind of public. I'm not

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sure what the the general public is going to think

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of that.

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Speaker 1: Will that all be public?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm assuming you can. Well, let's check.

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Let's see if we can access someone else's story. Well,

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I guess you know, whether it's okay, I'm looking at

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this person. Yep, I clicked on t con two four.

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He has a story that says will Stacks be blinded off?

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He's got a response there from someone kep Math should

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be in this app responding to everybody. But if I

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click staking, it says no staking information.

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Speaker 1: Nowhere are you looking? By the way?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so are you on the app? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I click on my profile, click.

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Speaker 2: On your profile, then click on my story. Got it,

470
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and then you'll see the three tabs. Now, that person

471
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:26,640
I just clicked on maybe he's never bought anything on

472
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,720
poker Steak or that maybe it is public. But I'm

473
00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:33,119
just that's that's interesting, whether it's whether it is public's

474
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,640
pretty cool or if it's just private. I guess we'll

475
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,960
find out as the kind of series kicks off.

476
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Also, you would you would think that the the stats

477
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,480
tab they would just populated with all like past data, right,

478
00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:50,039
I mean, now that you own the WSB brand, right,

479
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,440
you should you should just basically import that data, yeah,

480
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,400
and then you have it all there. So like if

481
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,359
I were to go into let's say, Daniel lagron Is,

482
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,559
I could see, like, you know, he's got seven bracelets,

483
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,359
he's won this many millions, you know, this many cash is,

484
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,920
like all all that sort of stuff. I think you

485
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,799
would you would put that in there butt you know,

486
00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:09,119
maybe that's one of those like this is version one

487
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,559
of the app, you know, where you're going to get

488
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,880
version you know two, whatever, et cetera. It's going to

489
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,920
go like that. So so yeah, I also wonder if

490
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,440
I mean, you mentioned the story section, you know, and

491
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,599
it prompts you in here it says, how's the tournament going?

492
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,680
Is this going to be similar to like the Poker

493
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,839
News my stack where can you can I enter just

494
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240
like just my chip count? And then it feeds into

495
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,200
let's say the WSP dot com reporting. You know how

496
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,359
is that going to work? You know, you and I

497
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,279
have both heard that they're exploring talking to different reporters.

498
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,119
So is the plan to ultimately take all the reporting

499
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,880
in house? I mean, how is that going to work?

500
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,920
You know, it's it's definitely there's a lot of like

501
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,720
breadcrumbs that are out there.

502
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:57,039
Speaker 2: I don't think you've got to do your your chip counts,

503
00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,440
but I think it's more they want kind of people

504
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,559
posting in a way my stack, but like without the

505
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,680
chip count so posting questions, posting photos, you know, generating

506
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,160
a bit of kind of content through the app, and

507
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,279
like you can already see if you kind of you know,

508
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,319
there's hashtags. There's for different events, as there's an overall

509
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,640
WSP hashtag. You know, there's people can kind of browse

510
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,440
the feed. You know, the post I had last week

511
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,400
has a couple of thumbs up, a couple thumbs down.

512
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,400
Quite rude. But I think that's kind of the goal.

513
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,599
Whether we can put in counts, I'm not sure is

514
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,240
good because I think, you know, we've both experienced firsthand

515
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:40,759
the issues of my stack abuse.

516
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: And I think my stack is goaded.

517
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: No, I do too, But like I guess the only

518
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:49,160
issue with my stack. Is is the abuse and you know,

519
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,400
being able to put yourself at a million chips in

520
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,039
the first level.

521
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the abuse has actually been nullified,

522
00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:00,279
Like it's not really a thing anymore. I mean only

523
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,000
was a thing for sure, But I think it's gotten

524
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,200
much better now, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.

525
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:09,279
But yeah, I mean I clicked this little story's button.

526
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,319
There's a whole bunch of people in They're asking questions

527
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,839
or they're just chatting or whatever the heck. I mean,

528
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,839
it's essentially like a Twitter feed, but within this app.

529
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna see if I can tag a play

530
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,880
I'm gonna I'm gonna make a post right now. I mean,

531
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,160
I also I can tag, Oh, I can tag players?

532
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,480
Can I tag you? What's your name on this? Donald?

533
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. So I go into my profile

534
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,559
and at the top left, I'm g g six space AJJ.

535
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,279
Speaker 2: Okay, how many hell is that? Okay, mine's Timothy Duckworth.

536
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:40,920
So how many ratification steps have you done?

537
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,079
Speaker 1: Yeah? So if I click on that, it says this

538
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,000
is it says what is this idea? You must be

539
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,400
a registered WSP player to participate in all wa Spy

540
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,480
related competitions whatever, Like you know, the idea is the

541
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880
wsp player ID automatically generated when signing up for the app.

542
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,480
But what's interesting is I mean, I feel like they

543
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,799
should have my stuff on file because if I go

544
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,920
to my story and then I click my staking, like,

545
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,640
I have a whole bunch of staking stats from my

546
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:11,200
time on poker Steak, like events sold one oh two,

547
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,039
number of investors six seventy three, current available steaking seven,

548
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,039
So like, you know, I have a bunch of stuff

549
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:19,759
in there. So I feel like this should already just

550
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,480
be tied in. I also don't like, and this is

551
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,079
also something that I didn't like with poker Steak is

552
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,319
that when you do sign in with your your GG pass,

553
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,519
it gives me at least my name that I have

554
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,920
on the club gg app, which is Daisy Duke, which

555
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,720
is after my dogs. But like, why why can't it

556
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,279
be Why shouldn't it be a photo of me and

557
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:42,079
my name?

558
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: It is? That's what mine is, minds me and a

559
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,000
cowboy hat and my.

560
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine, mine's mind's the picture of a dog and

561
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,960
it's a Daisy Duke.

562
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,319
Speaker 2: Go to profile that you can have display name or nickname.

563
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,759
Nickname would be Daisy Duke. Real name would be Don Repeats,

564
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:00,839
And you can change the photo right there, and I

565
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440
changed the photo. I went to my display name because

566
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,400
I'm assuming when let's say we both play the mistream millions, right,

567
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:10,279
mine would say have a photo of me and have

568
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,640
Timothy Duck with you, alas would have a picture of

569
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,200
a dog and Daisy Duke. Yeah, I don't know.

570
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I think it should just default to real name.

571
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: I think it should, but maybe there's maybe some legal

572
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,920
reasons why it's you can get to choose.

573
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, legal All right, we've done enough going through

574
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,480
this app. But I mean you guys should do basically

575
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,400
what Tim and I just did is play around with it.

576
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,920
That way, you familiarize yourself with the app. You're ready

577
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,759
to go for the summer. The more people that you

578
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:42,000
know are up to speed with how the app operates

579
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,279
and all that already have it on their phone, et cetera,

580
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:47,160
the faster the entire summer process is going to go

581
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,319
for everyone. So my recommendation is to get the app,

582
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:52,920
play around with it a little bit. Of course, if

583
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000
you have any questions. I mean, he gets blown up

584
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,160
a lot, but probably hit up keV Math on Twitter

585
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:00,200
or just you know dump it in the app app,

586
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,559
as is evidence by the fact that there are a

587
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,759
lot of questions in the app already. That's another thing,

588
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,640
by the way, they should they definitely.

589
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:09,119
Speaker 2: Need a dedicated support.

590
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there needs to be somebody in this

591
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:14,160
app NonStop responding to these questions.

592
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

593
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's just like basically every time it

594
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,720
comes in, you know, a ticket needs to go through

595
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200
to whoever or somebody is just constantly in the app

596
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:27,200
just you know, firing stuff away obviously. I mean that

597
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,119
could be Kevi Math, yes, but it also should not

598
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,079
be Kevi Math because he's doing a business business.

599
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: I've seen I clicked a random story, I've seen him

600
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,559
responding to someone's question. So he's in the app, but

601
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:38,640
he is answering questions. Shout out to Kevi Math for

602
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,160
double duty Twitter and WSPS.

603
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: He should have an increased salary. I would hope if

604
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,400
he's doing this and that keeping with the WSP, there

605
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,000
are a couple of tournament rules that are new slash

606
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,160
updated for twenty twenty five that we just wanted to

607
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,720
hit on. The one that's being talked about the most

608
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,359
is the one that has to do with electronic devices

609
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:08,599
and what they're doing. How about this, I'll just read

610
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:12,759
the rule, okay, and then we'll discuss. So, once participants

611
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:16,799
have reached the final three tables in any tournament, all

612
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:21,160
approved electronic devices must be removed. An announcement will be

613
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,359
made to participants once they have reached the final three

614
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:28,079
tables to remove all such electronic devices. Failure to do

615
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:32,319
so will result in penalties up to and including disqualification.

616
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:36,519
So this could be twenty seven players left, This can

617
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:39,000
be twenty four players left, twenty one players left. It

618
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:42,920
just depends what the tournament is, and then you're going

619
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,039
to have to be electronic device less going forward. I

620
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:54,319
find this a little bit interesting. I mean, on the surface,

621
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:01,000
maybe it's a good thing, but I don't know. Like

622
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,200
part of me is like, if you're if you're promoting

623
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:11,119
people play all these WACIP online events, then what happens

624
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,960
if somebody also makes the final three tables of a

625
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,720
tournament while they're doing that? Yes, that is one thing.

626
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Another thing is like I just feel like, so, for example,

627
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,359
are we gonna lose Daniel and the grandeou vlogs if

628
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,880
he makes the final three tables of an event.

629
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,119
Speaker 2: It's him, They're gonna let me.

630
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: But okay, but that's okay. That's a separate issue, is that,

631
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,759
you know, doing something for something something for somebody else.

632
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:38,839
I just feel like, I feel like this issue would

633
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:45,400
be better solved if you just had dedicated floor person

634
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,720
for the final three tables of a tournament, and then

635
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:54,359
that person can essentially watch things, you know, like just

636
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,359
make sure that people aren't on their phones on you know,

637
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:00,599
the different solver apps or whatever the it is, you know,

638
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,279
because that's what that's what this is geared towards, you know,

639
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:08,039
getting rid of right. So so yeah, I don't know.

640
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,079
I feel like I still do feel like there is

641
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:13,559
a bit of an overreaction from what happened at the

642
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,640
Spin Event final table last summer with Jonathan Tomayo and

643
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,799
Dominic Niche with the laptop on the rail sort of stuff.

644
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,559
And I just I don't know, I don't I don't

645
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,960
fully get it, you know.

646
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's good to they're trying to

647
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,920
protect everybody, they're trying to protect players, completely get it.

648
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,880
I think it's fine. We do some of this stuff

649
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,359
in the studio, but the difference between the studio and

650
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,160
the World Series of Poker is that it's our environment.

651
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,400
We control everything, and it's much easier for us to

652
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:50,680
execute World Series. We're gonna have three you know, we're

653
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,319
gonna have a tournament plane down at three tables. It's

654
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,839
gonna be over in say the gold section. There's another table,

655
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,279
you know, on the main stage. There's three of those.

656
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,880
You know that who's taking the phones? Where we're putting

657
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,839
the phones. There's a safety issue here with you know,

658
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,160
people being able to access other people's devices, or are

659
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,599
they going to just let the players kind of keep

660
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,440
them in their pockets.

661
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,759
Speaker 1: Probably just keep them in their pockets. I would guess

662
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,000
yea put out, it's just whatever.

663
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: So then the other issue is obviously you have you know,

664
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:22,640
people vlogging, you know, you have people. I just think

665
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,039
it's going to be hard to manage. I think the

666
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:29,000
motivation behind it is fine. How efficient or how effective

667
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,400
the rule will be will be kind of a bit

668
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,000
more up for discussion. Obviously, when we do film feature tables,

669
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,480
we do take the phones, but that's from a couse

670
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,640
of medic reason than anything.

671
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting, just from a macro standpoint

672
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:50,319
that everything in society has trained us to be on

673
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:55,039
our phones like mobile first, right, including things like basically

674
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,119
plus app, you know, doing the poker news my Stack app,

675
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,200
and doing the live reporting like all that sort of stuff, right,

676
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:05,119
you know, playing w CB dot com events on your

677
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,719
phone on mobile, Like everything is is geared towards we

678
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,199
are a mobile first society. So what I'm getting at

679
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,840
is like I think people are just naturally going to

680
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,440
pull their phones out of their pockets because that's just

681
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,320
how they're They're like trained, like that's that you know,

682
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,039
you just pull it out. You don't even realize that

683
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,599
you just pulled it up, right exactly, Like I mean,

684
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,320
can't you do things like if this is obviously geared

685
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,039
towards the whole solver thing and using those sorts of

686
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,639
programs and whatnot to gain an advantage? I mean, can't

687
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:41,119
you just like geo blockgto wizard dot com.

688
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm just going.

689
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,199
Speaker 1: To have an app like you have to go to

690
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,519
actual gto Wizard dot com Like that's how it works.

691
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,199
So like, can't you just geoblock that website for in

692
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,199
the Horseshoe and Paris?

693
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: So yes, But here's the other issue, And I kind

694
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,800
of had a long discussion with some of that plays

695
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,400
about it is that, you know, if we're talking about cheating, obviously,

696
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,800
the first way you cheat is okay. The second way

697
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,960
you cheat is you're looking at these apps while playing poker. Okay,

698
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,119
so that's easy to outlaw you just no phones, et cetera.

699
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:14,440
But then, well, are we taking away Apple watches too?

700
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,719
The other part is that, okay, we're not taking away

701
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,800
Apple watches or garment watches or any other smart device.

702
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,159
You got those metaglasses. Now, how about you know you

703
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:28,599
can still receive texts, you know, like people can text

704
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:32,119
you charts or text you yes or no answers, So

705
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:34,239
you know, you can step away from the table and

706
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,199
say something like, you know, ace ten cut off seventeen

707
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,320
bigs seven handed to your friend or your coach, who

708
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,360
can then go access gtr wizard or whatever. You know,

709
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,840
however they're looking whatever charts they're looking at, and just

710
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920
send you a text back that just says fold twenty

711
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,840
eight percent. Right? Isn't that technically also cheating? I would

712
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,239
say yes. So it's like, where do we draw this

713
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,559
line with how to kind of protect and outlaw certain

714
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,360
devices or certain things. And it's tough. I think it's

715
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,199
way too It's way more complicated than people really want

716
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,400
to think about. You know, they've just kind of slapped

717
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,079
this rule up and think that covers everything. But I

718
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,719
don't really think it does. And so for us in

719
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480
the studio, I'm kind of and I'm not the only one,

720
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,559
like Paul, like the IRA people are also just kind

721
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,199
of hands off because there's too much to this. There's

722
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:28,679
too many levels to what players can do or what

723
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,599
they really want to do if they had to.

724
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I also just I mean, maybe I'm just

725
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,880
a complete idiot and I'm naive, but I feel like

726
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,360
I've been around enough poker, I've played enough poker that

727
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,360
I just don't think solvers are actually an issue. Like

728
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,519
I mean, I don't, like, I like, no one is.

729
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,320
I have I have yet to see someone. I mean, listen,

730
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,079
if somebody is on a solver in the middle of

731
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,920
a hand at the WSP or at any tournament, Okay,

732
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,119
I totally get it, but like that's the most obvious

733
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,400
thing because they have to like have their phone in

734
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,119
their hand, which is you can't have your phone in

735
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,119
your hand when you have a lot anyway, Like it

736
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,599
doesn't matter if you have a solver open, or if

737
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,000
you're you know, talking to your wife about what dinner

738
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,400
is later tonight, like it doesn't matter, you know, So

739
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000
like that is I think that solves that rule. Now,

740
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,800
if somebody wants to look at a solver like in

741
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,199
the middle of like after they fold a hand, how

742
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,480
is that any different than when a golfer shoots a

743
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,800
t shot and then discusses with his caddy what he's

744
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,239
gonna do on the next shot, or gets up to

745
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,280
the green and he spends fifteen minutes, you know, trying

746
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,119
to look at the lay of the land to see

747
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:36,719
how the ball is going to roll, and talking with

748
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920
his caddy and all this sort of like how like well,

749
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,679
like I just I don't I don't really see that.

750
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,880
I don't see the solver stuff as an issue. Now, Listen,

751
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,599
there are other ways to get advantages, there are other

752
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,079
ways to cheat, like that sort of stuff I understand,

753
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,960
and that sort of stuff, of course needs to be

754
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,800
addressed and ruled out. But as it pertains to the

755
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440
actual solvers, I don't know. I still personally feel like

756
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,519
all of this and it's not just the WS beast off,

757
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,800
it's everywhere. It's just a bit of an overreaction to

758
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,719
the stuff that happened with Tomaiyo and Dominic Niche, Like,

759
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,880
I mean, what does it matter if like you're sitting

760
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,000
across the table from me and you're looking at what

761
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:18,280
to do with your ten big lines? I mean, like

762
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:22,119
I don't necessarily maybe I just don't care that much

763
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,599
about like what people are doing. And if I and

764
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,480
I've been in a spot, you know, a couple of

765
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:29,679
years ago, I remember pretty distinctly, I was playing the Colossus.

766
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,199
This was like maybe the first year it moved a horseshoe,

767
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:35,920
and the guy on my direct left was looking at

768
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,239
a solver and this was obviously before all the solver

769
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,599
stuff like really became like a hot issue, and he

770
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,079
kept looking at it between hands. So in my mind,

771
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,679
I'm just like, Okay, I have a decent idea of

772
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,199
how these solvers operate because I look at them and

773
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,079
try and study them. So I now know how this

774
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,159
guy's gonna play. Like, so I know that he's got

775
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,800
eighteen big blinds over there. If he three bet jams

776
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,760
on me, his range is going to be probably pretty

777
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,880
confined to X because he's just looking at a solver

778
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,719
versus like if I'm looking at some guy who you know,

779
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,840
just got off the horse rode in from Texas, shout

780
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,159
out to all the cowboys out there, yourself included. Like

781
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,599
you know, I mean, that guy could be shoving with

782
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,480
you know, King Douce Off because he just looks at

783
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,719
me and says, this kid doesn't have it, like you know.

784
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,440
So it's like, you know, I feel like it kind

785
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,760
of goes both ways. I don't know. I just I

786
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,320
feel like one side of the entire community wants to

787
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,559
make poker like this, this elite mind sport. But then

788
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,199
the other side of the community is like, no, you

789
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840
can't have the things that make it this elite mind sport.

790
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:44,039
It needs to just be a peer to peer game.

791
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,519
I don't know. Maybe I'm just the idiot on an

792
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,719
island here and I'm just you know, I.

793
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Think we should want everyone to get better. I think,

794
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,039
you know, I think it helps the industry. I can

795
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,239
see the arguments to it not helping the industry, but

796
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,719
you know, people getting better, I think they're going to

797
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,159
play more, events will keep growing, prize schools will keep

798
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,280
going bigger. So I don't think we should be opposed

799
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,440
to people wanting to improve, just like an athlete wanting

800
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,519
to get uh, you know, a running coach or wanting

801
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,960
to get a strength and conditioning coach. This is kind

802
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,760
of a version of that.

803
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: I also think along those lines that it's the way

804
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,719
that we've as I'm talking like we as a community

805
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,119
have gone about this entire issue. It's almost like when

806
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:32,000
you see someone looking at a solver in a tournament,

807
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,199
you're like, oh, that guy's a cheater. Like, no, he's

808
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,639
not a cheater, Like he's he's he's Like it's like

809
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,159
if you said this athlete is is going to do

810
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,960
the bench press, you know, or he's doing some squats

811
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,519
because he wants to like get better little lower by strength,

812
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,199
Like no, in his in his downtime or whatever, He's

813
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,760
not that's a cheating, Like, it's just he can actively

814
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,960
working to get better. So like, don't don't classify these

815
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,599
people as as cheats, which I think it's just very

816
00:40:56,599 --> 00:41:00,920
easy to to give that sort of characterization and that's

817
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,920
not that's not how this should be.

818
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: Everyone. The thing is everyone has access to gto wizard.

819
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,360
They can go you know.

820
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:12,519
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing quickly? I know and

821
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,679
it's not just now I'm just you. You said it,

822
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,639
so I'm gonna bring it up. It's we always default

823
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,199
to gto Wizard. I think everyone does that, but it's

824
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,840
it's not just gto Wizard. There are I'm always about there,

825
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:27,320
so you know, it's it's not just like.

826
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: So everyone can access off to the.

827
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,159
Speaker 1: First of all, apologies on behalf of the community, the

828
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,639
gto Wizard, because I feel like they catch the brunt

829
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,480
of a lot of this stuff because people are just

830
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,800
like gto Wizard, G Wizard, GT Wizard when we should

831
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,280
just say like solvers.

832
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: Solvers, Yeah, solvers, chots, whatever it is. Everyone has the

833
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,519
access to these. They can pay the subscription, pay the membership,

834
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:51,360
whatever it is. You just have to put in the

835
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,639
time yourself to to understand how to use it. Now,

836
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,480
we've talked about poker and how you spend a lot

837
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:00,320
of time trying to get better at poker. Me the

838
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,360
complete opposite. Don't want to spend my time looking at charts.

839
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,599
And I'm not going to really judge anyone for doing

840
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,880
that because that's my decision. If I really really cared

841
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,199
about getting better and wanting to be some high stakes hero,

842
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:19,079
I would spend the time looking at charts and understanding

843
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,400
this stuff, but I don't. But everyone has equal chance.

844
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,760
It's not like gto Wizard or op to Pipoker or

845
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:28,960
run at Once is captive a certain amount of users.

846
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,840
Anyone can go sign up to these sites. So just

847
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,559
like anyone go lift a you know, lift a dumbella

848
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,519
running outside.

849
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: Going back to what we talked about the beginning of

850
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,960
the episode Ozzie Rules Football, I know you have obviously

851
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,079
taken a lot of like prioritization with your health and fitness.

852
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:50,599
Anyone can do that when they go to play Ozzie

853
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,519
Rules Football. People shouldn't show up to Ozzie Rules Football

854
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:55,960
on Sunday or whatever the heck it is and be like, oh,

855
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,920
Tim's cheating because he just bought a sauna and he

856
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
has a personal trainer, and he has all this gym

857
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,840
equipment and whatever. Like you said, everyone has access to

858
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,679
that if you want to do that, like and just

859
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,679
because Tim does that and now can outperform you on

860
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,360
the field, doesn't mean Tim is now cheating. Like I

861
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,960
just I just find it again a little bit weird

862
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,880
that you know, we want poker to like grow and whatever,

863
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,239
yet we just we kind of like we have these

864
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,320
opposing things working against one another. Again, you know, poker

865
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,480
is commonly equated to golf. Golf has caddies and you're

866
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,239
constantly talking with your caddy in between shots and trying

867
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880
to figure stuff out and get tips and whatever. You know,

868
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,639
Like on in regular sports, you have coaches who are

869
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,360
helping you and talking to you and possibly calling time

870
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480
out and you know, being like, hey do this do that?

871
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:50,159
Drawing stuff up on a board. Like you know, in football,

872
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,920
the quarterback gets off the field and goes over and

873
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,679
he's either looking at a tablet immediately or he's looking

874
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,880
at printed pieces of paper that show what the defense

875
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,519
was doing. Like, so, I don't know. I just don't

876
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,559
think that the solver issue is really that big of

877
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:09,559
an issue in live poker, you know, again, in the

878
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,079
middle of a hand, like if I'm like pulling up

879
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,880
my phone on the turn saying like, hey, this guy

880
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,000
just bet twenty five percent, what do I do with

881
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,400
this hand? I get it. That's completely not allowed. But

882
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,719
that's also that's not allowed anyway, because you can't have

883
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,159
your phone out period, like when you're doing that. So

884
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:28,639
I don't know. Now you want to talk about online poker,

885
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,800
completely different universe, and I think that stuff is much

886
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,119
more important to be addressed there, Like it's just rampant

887
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,199
in terms of what everything is happening now live. I

888
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,639
don't know, I just personally don't really see it that

889
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,840
often in terms of it being a very bad thing.

890
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,800
And again maybe I'm just a total idiot. And but

891
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,119
just listen, don't have your phones out with three tables

892
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:56,559
left in a tournament at the divsp'. That's the gist

893
00:44:56,559 --> 00:45:01,519
of this, bringing it back full circle. I also wonder,

894
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,400
is I don't I didn't see it in the rules

895
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,920
or maybe maybe I just missed it because I was

896
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,599
kind of just skimming them. But is is this one

897
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:09,280
of those things where you can like get up and

898
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,760
move to Like if I want to get on the phone,

899
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,440
can I like walk to somewhere?

900
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,599
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you can like step away from the table.

901
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm just I know that I know that

902
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,400
they have a similar rule, if not the exact same

903
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,199
rule at WIN when you get down to the final

904
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,400
three tables, like you can have your phone, but you

905
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,639
can like get up and like go to the aisle

906
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,960
or whatever, you know, and then use your phone. You

907
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,440
know that sort of thing. So I just find that's

908
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,840
that interesting or what I'm assuming that would can Can.

909
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,639
Speaker 2: I listen to music?

910
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I would guess no.

911
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: If but if my phone's away, right, I'm not touching

912
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,760
my phone, I can still listen to music.

913
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, But I mean that's going to.

914
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: Be an issue because some people like need something in

915
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,320
the ear and so that's just too bad.

916
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:57,519
Speaker 1: I actually think that like having headphones in is probably

917
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,599
an easier way to do something nefarious than having your

918
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:05,679
phone out. How do I if you have your iPods in,

919
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,159
your ear pods in, how do how do I know

920
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,119
you're actually listening to the music in your pocket or

921
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:14,000
you're not just talking to some guy upstairs or on

922
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,119
the rail, or like how do I know that? Like

923
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:16,800
that's different?

924
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like you can just be on mute,

925
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:23,480
right or you know, yeah, or someone's talking to me

926
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:27,719
or I'm on a FaceTime call. I think the biggest issue,

927
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,039
and we've seen it a little bit in our studio

928
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,000
and I'm wondering how to affect the World series is

929
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:36,760
these new the new metaglasses that people wear where you

930
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,920
can scan food and you can I don't know what.

931
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't think those should be allowed either.

932
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what the capabilities aren't, you know, you know,

933
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:45,800
not to put anyone on the spot. Dane or Groundo

934
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:47,880
has a pair he was using by the studio, but

935
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,199
more for fun. He was like, how many calories is

936
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,920
in this bag of nuts? And you know he he

937
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:56,079
I think he brought up himself. He can correct me

938
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,599
if I'm wrong that. You know, these could be an issue,

939
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,039
but he bought them for obviously, not to cheat them

940
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,679
to like his life. And you know, I've seen other

941
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:07,800
people wear them. I've seen some media people in the

942
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,599
poker industry have a pair. I think they're kind of cool.

943
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:12,360
I don't wear glasses, so it's not something I'm going

944
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,079
to spend. Who knows how much they cost on. But

945
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,480
that's I think the more of an issue than anything,

946
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:21,159
because you know, you can I think you can bring

947
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,159
up charts and videos on the screen so only you

948
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:27,719
can see it. No one else could tell that. You know,

949
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,440
you're watching something or looking at a chart or a

950
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:33,719
solver or whatever. I think that's something to really watch

951
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:39,079
out for and kind of keep your eyes on in

952
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:40,800
the punt going forward.

953
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would specifically ban those those types

954
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,880
of glasses. I don't think that they should be allowed.

955
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,559
You know. Now I know somebody who has them might

956
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,280
be like, well, they can just be sunglasses if I

957
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,360
just turn them off. Well, you know, I'm not chattering those,

958
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,880
you know any sort of like I mean smart classes

959
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,760
is that what they're called. I don't even know, but

960
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,840
those I would for sure just put like a one

961
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,480
hundred percent ban on those. I would also I do

962
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:13,480
like banning you know, headsets and and you know, music

963
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,320
devices and stuff like that, you know, because again I

964
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,320
don't necessarily know what's what's in them. You know what

965
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,840
if you just make a track that's literally just you

966
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,480
talking about tournament ranges on reports.

967
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,639
Speaker 2: Oh think of that. Yes, that is actually and.

968
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,039
Speaker 1: That's like you know that could happen. Yeah, So it's

969
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,480
like it's like that's just ridiculous. So I would just

970
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,800
again like you have to like there are certain things

971
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,199
that yes, I think you're just like this is all

972
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,199
banned over here, like you can't you can't use this,

973
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:42,000
this and this like end of story, see you later.

974
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,400
Like that's just how it is. And if you're somebody

975
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,679
who you know, I would even go as far to

976
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,360
say like okay, like let's say somebody shows up with

977
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:55,280
those metaclasses and they are ultimately it's final three tables,

978
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,559
So they're on a feature table. Let's say, and they say, well,

979
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,639
I have this eye thing, I need sunglasses and whatever.

980
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,039
If I'm the operator, I have like like when you

981
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,639
go to a nice restaurant and you're supposed to wear

982
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:09,519
a coat, but you don't have a coat, they go

983
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:11,119
pull a coat out of the back and they say,

984
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:13,599
put this on. You know, so I would have a

985
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,400
bunch of glasses, you know. They would they would probably

986
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,000
be just those cheap sunglasses and they would have they

987
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,480
would have doubicippy on the side, and I would say, here,

988
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:24,440
you can wear these if the light bothers you, like,

989
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:26,880
you know, like that sort of thing, like because that's

990
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,280
what I don't want people to like make that claim. Well,

991
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,119
you know, medically I have to wear these glasses or

992
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:34,840
the light bothers me or whatever, Like, Okay, here's some glasses.

993
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,800
Have fun. You're not wearing these, Like you're not wearing

994
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,840
the ones with the camera on the side that's just

995
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,440
not happening, or the glasses that have the the audio earbuddets.

996
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,559
You're also not wearing those, you know. So I think

997
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:50,519
all that stuff. I'm fine with, like totally banning that,

998
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:54,159
I get it, you know, But I think the phone

999
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:56,840
thing is like kind of like, I mean, I don't know. Again,

1000
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,400
it's maybe this is just me being naive. I just

1001
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,679
don't personally see it, or maybe I just don't necessarily

1002
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,719
care as much about somebody being on a solver. And

1003
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:13,480
and I also kind of think that that thought is

1004
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:18,599
shared with a fair amount of the high stakes community.

1005
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:22,159
Again because in the studio, like, huh, we don't we

1006
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,920
don't say no, you can't look at a solver. All

1007
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,159
these everyone in the studio knows you could possibly look

1008
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:29,599
at a solver. Now, of course you can't do it

1009
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:31,320
in the middle of the hand. We totally get it.

1010
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,199
But like, you know, like so I just find that interesting.

1011
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,599
So again, it's one of those things where this rule

1012
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:41,760
is now on paper. We're gonna have to see how

1013
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,039
it plays out. I'm guessing though it's it's probably pretty

1014
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,719
good overall, both from policing it on the operator side

1015
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,760
and then also from the players side, because so much

1016
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,239
was made of the the Jonathan Tomiow and Dominic Niche

1017
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,119
thing at the WSP Main Event final table. You know, again,

1018
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,000
that was the biggest stage to actually have that happen on.

1019
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,400
So I think a lot of people are gonna kind

1020
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,119
of just not do it anyway. You know, They're going

1021
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:08,880
to be like, I don't want to be that guy.

1022
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,559
I don't want to get called out, you know, I

1023
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:13,599
don't want to be decued, you know, I don't want

1024
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:16,000
to have a penalty whatever it may be. Now, this

1025
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:21,480
next rule though, this one' let's go baby. A participant

1026
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,920
who intentionally dodges his or her blinds when moving from

1027
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,559
an existing seat must forfeit both blinds and the big

1028
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:32,480
bine ante if applicable, and will receive a one round penalty.

1029
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:35,599
Give these people a seven round penalty for all I care.

1030
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,320
These people are the worst of the worst.

1031
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: Wait did the blinds go though? Is it a splash

1032
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:43,000
pot or put it in the pot?

1033
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:46,159
Speaker 1: Who cares? I mean maybe they just take them off

1034
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:48,440
the table. I don't know, But who I don't care

1035
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:51,400
where it goes. That person does not get them. It's

1036
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,960
it's ridiculous when you see these people walking around like

1037
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:58,239
with their head up, acting confused, and you're like, bro,

1038
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,440
your table is right okay, or your table is here

1039
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,239
and I'm sitting at it sit your ass down and

1040
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:04,679
let's I.

1041
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: Find the funniest one is when someone has like who

1042
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,320
comes up to a full table and they're like, what

1043
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,679
table numbers this? I'm like, buddy, there's no seat here,

1044
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,760
just like, yeah, are they are?

1045
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,679
Speaker 1: They are? They come up to that table and they say, hey,

1046
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:19,440
what table numbers this? And then they they like they

1047
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,719
come up. Let's say the table's four, and the dealers

1048
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,599
like table four, and the guy has like card sixty four,

1049
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,440
and then he goes to the next table. What table's

1050
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,440
number is this? Bro? You have sixty four? We just

1051
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,599
told you it's four. It's probably on the opposite side

1052
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:33,519
of the room, Like, what what are we doing here?

1053
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I guess my first question is, yeah,

1054
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,000
what happens with the blinds that should be in the rule?

1055
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:42,199
Should are they? Are they removed from the tournament? Or

1056
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,079
they made as a splash pot? If they're a splash pot,

1057
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,280
think about it. You see someone walking around and you're

1058
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,960
on the bottom with aces, right, you're gonna just call

1059
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,280
the floor up and be like, hey, he's at this table.

1060
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,119
Speaker 1: I would as soon it be like the next hand.

1061
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then like if you have a good hand

1062
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,280
or you have a bandhand. You probably want to you know,

1063
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,639
there's there's some you can do some finagling with that pot.

1064
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know, I know you like to

1065
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,360
get into specifics and details more than I do. I'm

1066
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,360
I'm just happy that that this rule is on the

1067
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,119
books and people can look at it and say, no,

1068
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,559
your ass was walking around the tournament area clearly trying

1069
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:21,599
to miss blinds, like let's go, like, let's let's figure

1070
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:21,960
this out.

1071
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: And I get Look, I get it, I've gotten I

1072
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,880
mean I got loss at nap t trying to find

1073
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,119
my table because it was in it. We're in one

1074
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:29,800
section of the room, and the one table on the

1075
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,199
other side of like the the you know, the little

1076
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:34,920
carridors they put in was my table, and bloody you've

1077
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,119
took in. Jeremy Becka's like, are you blind dodging and like, no,

1078
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:39,280
I honestly don't know where my hell my table is

1079
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,800
and it was on the other side of the room,

1080
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,360
which made no sense. So I get it. It is hot,

1081
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,840
but you don't go to you can tell when someone's

1082
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,039
dodging blinds. You know they're going to every table they're

1083
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:49,320
going to.

1084
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can just you can count your face

1085
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:54,920
and you just like this guy is for sure dodging

1086
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,599
the blinds, like you know, you know what's happening.

1087
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: And I mean, like, yeah, it's annoying so many people

1088
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,719
do it. It's at least this is good. This is

1089
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,960
a Maybe one round penalty is not enough. Maybe forfeiting

1090
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,800
both blinds is not enough. Maybe it should be worse.

1091
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,599
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm I'm for having this rule. I'm

1092
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:17,440
for actually enforcing it. I think these people are just

1093
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,159
the worst, you know, trying to get this ridiculous advantage.

1094
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,800
Just go to the next damn table, pay the blinds.

1095
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,440
I mean, it happens, you know. Like I would also

1096
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:30,800
add that, you know, even even before this this rule,

1097
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,519
because oftentimes this happens because a table broke. If you're

1098
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:37,960
caught stalling at a table that's about to break because

1099
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,360
you don't want to pay the blinds, you should also

1100
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,639
get a penalty.

1101
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: Look, I've done that. You should It's it's like stolen

1102
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:46,800
to get to the money. Okay, it's not.

1103
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: No, it's not. If it's day one a of the

1104
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,679
Colossus and you're asked a stalling no, you should be

1105
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:52,280
get out of here.

1106
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:52,519
Speaker 2: Ok.

1107
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Not not if it's a four and you're looking at

1108
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,519
a seven thousand dollars prize jump on a four dollars buying. Okay, understandable,

1109
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,840
I get it. That's within the strategy of what's going

1110
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:02,199
on here.

1111
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: There is an installing and it's only really acceptable closing

1112
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:12,400
in on the money pay jumps, and to a degree,

1113
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
if you have like sub ten big blinds or something

1114
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,199
and you're about to get a table breaks.

1115
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: I actually have a question. This brings something up. So

1116
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:23,079
I know some places I would say chief among them

1117
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:25,079
is the studio. Is that when you get down to

1118
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,920
a certain time on the clock five minutes left right,

1119
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,320
they pause the clock and they draw for hands so

1120
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,880
that people can't stall for the next blind jump. Whatever.

1121
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,119
What if you did that for table breaks? Hey, this

1122
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:40,840
table's breaking next, you have two more hands to play,

1123
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,119
like and it's just listen, it's two hands to play,

1124
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,639
or it's whatever hands to play. That's just how it is.

1125
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:49,400
But like we're not letting you be, like you come

1126
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,920
over or it's sometimes they don't announce it, of course

1127
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,639
because they don't want people to stall. But you see

1128
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:56,920
the guy rocks up with this giant wheelbarrel of racks.

1129
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,760
You know your table's breaking next there's no other tables around,

1130
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,079
you know, so people you know, might play a little

1131
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:04,079
bit slower whatever. But what if the floor person just

1132
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,199
be hey, three hands, that's what we're doing, don't I.

1133
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: Think it should just be random table break? Well?

1134
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you really do? Can you really do random

1135
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:14,280
table break at the wsh A P like let's say

1136
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,679
losses when.

1137
00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: There's no under tables. Once you're in the money, you

1138
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:21,719
can get to a point where you can start doing it.

1139
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,599
Now do I want to do it with sixty tables left? No?

1140
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:29,719
But you could expand to say ten tables.

1141
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:32,119
Speaker 1: Sure, But that's but that's where I'm saying. Before that,

1142
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,440
could you do you go up to a table and

1143
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,159
you you just high card at the table, Hey one

1144
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:38,320
through four, pick a number of hands, let's go.

1145
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean that number. I don't know if it's that

1146
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:45,480
vital that like early on in a colossus. I think

1147
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,840
it matters more later.

1148
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,519
Speaker 1: In the I mean, listen on the on the the

1149
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:53,920
prioritization total poll, it's probably very low. But what I'll

1150
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,519
say is that if you're trying to improve everything, this

1151
00:56:56,639 --> 00:56:59,400
is something that you could that could potentially be improved. Sure,

1152
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,920
so you know, you go up to the batch of

1153
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,239
tables that you're about to break, you draw, you say, okay, guys,

1154
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,880
you're playing three more hands, don't stall, like, let's let's go,

1155
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,519
you know, let's make this happen. And I think that

1156
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:16,239
that could could could work, you know. So those those

1157
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:19,920
are the rules mainly, but the most important rule, of

1158
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,199
course is what we hit on first basby plus app

1159
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:25,400
get it, you're gonna need it. Let's go. All right,

1160
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:33,440
twenty five K fantasy is back, baby, and at least

1161
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,199
I am hopefully in it once again. And I say

1162
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:39,880
hopefully because I have to sell action. I don't play.

1163
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,400
If I don't sell action, I'm not going to put

1164
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,239
up the whole twenty five K myself. That's just not

1165
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:46,840
how this works. We do have a listing posted on

1166
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:51,760
poker Steak. It's Team dp m D because I will

1167
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,880
be drafting with friend of the pod Mickey Doft. We've

1168
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,440
already been deep into our research for a couple of

1169
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,480
weeks now. I'm just kind of trying to do a

1170
00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:04,840
little bit every single day, so that stuff is happening.

1171
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:08,400
If you want a piece of the team, no markup,

1172
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,440
of course, never any markup. You can head on over

1173
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:14,480
to poker steak dot com. You can find the listing there. Again,

1174
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:20,760
it's Team DPMD shares are as low as twenty five dollars.

1175
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,000
And then I mean, if I listen, if I know

1176
00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:25,199
you personally and we've talked in the past, feel free

1177
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:27,000
to DM me and we can do something on the side.

1178
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:30,440
But of course it's a bit easier if we can

1179
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,360
just do everything through poker Steak as much as possible.

1180
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,920
So would love for everyone to be able to get

1181
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,960
into the mix and sweat along. Again, if we don't

1182
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,880
sell out, we won't be in. And something I've also

1183
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,119
said is that the year that I don't sell to

1184
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:48,440
get in is the year I'm done doing it. I mean,

1185
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,400
I just think, you know, it's like it's like, Okay,

1186
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,280
the run is ended. I'm just gonna move on with

1187
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,440
my life. There are two rule changes this year, kind

1188
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,840
of small but notable. So one thing that they're gonna

1189
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:04,800
do is for anyone who wins a bracelet, you're gonna

1190
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,960
get a twenty five point bonus, So it boosts up

1191
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:13,000
that first place points total a bit more.

1192
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:13,159
Speaker 2: So.

1193
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a ten k event, first place would

1194
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,119
be one hundred points. With the old rules, first place

1195
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:20,800
to be one hundred, second place to be ninety, third

1196
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,400
place to be eighty, et cetera. So you know, the

1197
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,599
jump from like second to first, isn't that meaningful. I mean,

1198
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,039
it's good to have the additional ten points, yes, but

1199
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:32,440
it's not really that much. Now this year it'd be

1200
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:36,159
ninety to one twenty five, so winning like actually matters

1201
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,039
much more, so that's good. The other rule change is

1202
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:45,360
that so they had the field size bonus was capped

1203
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,400
at eighty one players, the final eighty one players for

1204
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,840
events that were less than one thousand dollars. This year,

1205
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,679
it's going to be events that are fifteen hundred or less.

1206
00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:59,000
So that includes things like the Mystery Millions, you know,

1207
00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:02,719
which had a massive field bonus last year. It'll include

1208
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:05,400
things I think like the Monster Stack, the Millionaire Maker,

1209
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,000
that sort of stuff. I would guess those are also

1210
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,320
included in there. Just need to I just need to

1211
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,760
verify I guess if it's if it's fifteen hundred and

1212
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:17,159
lower or fifteen or lower than fifteen hundred. Just need

1213
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:20,800
to kind of clarify that. But either way, it's going

1214
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,840
to include a few more events for that field bones

1215
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,719
not that the field bonus won't be big. It's just

1216
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,280
going to be harder to achieve because it'll be a

1217
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,199
fewer spots. It'll be capped at the final eighty one entries.

1218
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,079
So we got that. I know you bought a piece,

1219
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,760
so you're aided, of course. I mean, listen, we won

1220
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,800
the thing two years ago.

1221
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better win it this year.

1222
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I'm really hoping. You know, last year I

1223
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:49,360
felt like we had some unfortunate spots, I would say.

1224
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,880
I mean, listen, obviously everyone knows we drafted Daniel last year.

1225
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,679
Everyone knows the stuff he goes through because he puts

1226
01:00:57,719 --> 01:00:59,519
it on the vlog every single day. And he got

1227
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:03,800
just in a lot of spots deep in tournaments, which

1228
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,119
you know sucked. And then the other one was, you know,

1229
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:11,079
Sean Winter. I thought got afft a lot deep in tournaments.

1230
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:13,480
You know, most notably was the two hundred and fifty

1231
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:17,960
K when he had Kings versus Taylor von Kreigenberg's Queens,

1232
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:21,639
and that was for a ton of chips with like

1233
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:24,360
two tables left or something, maybe even the final time

1234
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,000
I can't remember exactly, but yeah, I mean that would

1235
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,280
have been absolutely massive, massive, massive for us, but you know,

1236
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,519
such as life. But you know there are fewer things

1237
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,920
I find as fun as fantasy poker all somewhere along.

1238
01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:40,920
So if you want to join along again, you can

1239
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,719
head on over to poker steak dot com. You can

1240
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:48,239
find our listing, or you can look at my Twitter page.

1241
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,519
I've been posting about it with the listening there again,

1242
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,599
if I know you personally, if we've you know, done

1243
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:57,719
some deals or whatever in the past, or maybe you've

1244
01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:00,199
bought some action, I don't know, but just you know,

1245
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:02,280
you can hit me up with a DM and we

1246
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,360
can do things that way. But it should be fun.

1247
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:09,519
Poker Goo will be streaming the draft once again. It

1248
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:13,000
will be on what is it Tuesday, May twenty seventh.

1249
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:14,199
Speaker 2: Yep, a one o'clock.

1250
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:17,039
Speaker 1: I think one o'clock. It'll be on the poker Go

1251
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,719
YouTube channel in addition to poker Go, so you guys

1252
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,760
can check that out. Are you back as auctioneer?

1253
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's my call. I think that's

1254
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,719
a miss Daniel Groner's decision.

1255
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,079
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, has he talked to you?

1256
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:32,039
Speaker 2: He hasn't. Maybe I'm out. Wow, I may the replace him?

1257
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: Know you should do? Is you should send him a

1258
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,519
photo of your haircut and you'll be back there.

1259
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:42,599
Speaker 2: You know, that might actually definitely force me out.

1260
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,639
Speaker 1: So that I think you're in. So so yeah, twenty

1261
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:46,320
five k fantasy. Let's go. Hopefully we get back in there.

1262
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,519
We sell the action that we need to if you

1263
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:51,719
want to sweat again, poker steak dot com action as

1264
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,000
low as twenty five buckeroos. So let's have some fun.

1265
01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:01,360
Let's try and win it again this year. All right,

1266
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Moving on, we got some news coming out of Florida.

1267
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,199
Aliam Sirovich kicked out of the Run Good Poker Series

1268
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:14,079
Best Bet Jacksonville main event. Now I find this a

1269
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:18,039
little bit interesting. He was kicked out of the I

1270
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:19,719
think it was a twelve hundred dollars buy in main

1271
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,880
event after the dinner break on one of the day ones.

1272
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,159
There were eighty players in the field or eighty entries

1273
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:30,559
in the field total, there were thirty left, and he

1274
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:34,679
was the chip leader. From what I understand, they went

1275
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:37,679
on dinner break, they come back and he's gone, and

1276
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:42,000
then it's confirmed that he was in fact removed from

1277
01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:46,440
the tournament. Now, a couple things. One, why did they

1278
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:49,360
wait till the dinner break to get rid of him?

1279
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,519
Why didn't you do this? Now, I'm not saying that

1280
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,199
like somebody at the registration cage necessarily knows who the

1281
01:03:55,199 --> 01:03:58,440
heck aliam Sirovich is or everything. You know, they're you know,

1282
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,000
they're just working away doing the thing, collecting the money,

1283
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,239
giving you a ticket and moving on. But somebody didn't

1284
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:08,480
see him in level one be like, uh, hey, like

1285
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:11,039
you know you can't play. The other thing is that

1286
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:14,639
he has cash is at best Bet like in November

1287
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:20,400
and in January, So like, was this a run good decision?

1288
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,000
But again, why wasn't it made earlier? Was this a

1289
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,280
best bet decision? But then why have you been letting

1290
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,880
him play in other events? So I'm just listen, it's

1291
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,039
obviously what aliam Ssirovitch did and the fact that he

1292
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:37,519
didn't really come clean about all the cheating allegations and whatnot,

1293
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:40,039
like it doesn't help his cause in any sense. But

1294
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,960
like I just from a venue standpoint, I'm kind of

1295
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,440
just wondering process here, Like, I mean, if you're not

1296
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,000
gonna let him play, then you know, don't let him play,

1297
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:55,840
But are you just like I don't know because maybe

1298
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,199
the partner said something, but I don't really understand. I

1299
01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,280
don't know, you have obviously dealt with this a little

1300
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,599
bit more of commissioner, I mean, what are your thoughts

1301
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:03,840
on this whole situation.

1302
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,159
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the fact that he has cashes, you know,

1303
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:09,760
within the last few months, shows that he's been allowed

1304
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,679
to play obviously at Best Bet, so it seems like

1305
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:16,920
it comes more from possibly run Good side of things,

1306
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,719
which is fine, nothing against that. Maybe just hey, do

1307
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:27,559
it a little earlier then dinner break, you know, while

1308
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,719
he's chip leader. That's my only thought on that. But

1309
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,920
you know, look, who knows. Maybe it's something completely unrelated

1310
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,840
to Run Good you know and Best Bet. Maybe he

1311
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:40,440
you know, did something on property that day that was

1312
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,119
out of line, so you know, without the information coming

1313
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:45,760
from Best Bet or run Good directly, I think we're

1314
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,159
just kind of assuming a lot here.

1315
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:52,599
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I mean again, I just find it

1316
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:56,159
interesting that it seems like they've been the property has

1317
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:58,280
been letting him play and hasn't really had an issue

1318
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,320
with it, because again, he does have cashes, and if

1319
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,519
you have cashes, you're not cashing every single event, so

1320
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:06,639
you're probably played a bunch of other events too. So

1321
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,079
I just thought it was very interesting how this was

1322
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,119
gone about. I mean, listen, if the guy's basically banned

1323
01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:17,559
from all of poker, I mean, I'm not gonna necessarily complain,

1324
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,280
you know, I don't think a lot of players would,

1325
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,760
given everything that has been alleged to go on with him.

1326
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,719
So if that's the case, that's the case, and if

1327
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,159
that's your stance, that's your stance. Yes, But I also

1328
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:31,000
just think that, like, it doesn't seem like that's been

1329
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:33,920
your stance. So I'm just I'm just kind of like, oh,

1330
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:38,440
that's kind of interesting to bring up. So yeah, just

1331
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:41,760
kind of wanted to mention that. And then news just

1332
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,920
dropped today, you know, shortly before we hit the record

1333
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,679
button that Poker Stars is postponing it's Pennsylvania Shared Liquidity.

1334
01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:53,079
So of course we talked about how Pennsylvania joined the

1335
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:58,679
Multi State Internet Gaming Agreement with Michigan, New Jersey. I

1336
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:04,320
believe it's el Aware and Nevada. Also maybe West Virginia,

1337
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,360
but West Virginia doesn't have poker right now. Anyway, Poker

1338
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:15,840
Stars is not going to be linking its platform across

1339
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,880
the states, at least immediately. It said it did cite

1340
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:26,280
global operational priorities for this, So I don't exactly know

1341
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,599
what that means, but I'm guessing we'll find out what

1342
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:34,199
that means in the coming months, maybe the coming year,

1343
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,239
maybe even shorter than out the coming weeks. So yeah,

1344
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,760
so that's that's interesting. I mean, I think the delay

1345
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,119
is I would say, maybe a little bit surprising, you know,

1346
01:07:46,239 --> 01:07:50,920
just because I view Poker Stars as a leader in

1347
01:07:51,079 --> 01:07:55,519
the online poker category. You know. I know, it's obviously

1348
01:07:55,559 --> 01:07:58,000
things are a little bit different here in the US

1349
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:00,519
because you only have a few states that are involved,

1350
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,719
so it's not as big as rest of the world. But

1351
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,199
the brand Poker Stars, you know, I thought would be

1352
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,800
kind of first and foremost to doing this sort of thing.

1353
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,000
So so yeah, I do think it's interesting. Now they

1354
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,840
do have New Jersey and Michigan are linked those player pools,

1355
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,640
and Poker Stars does not operate in Nevada at least currently,

1356
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,239
so maybe it's something where they want to wait till

1357
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:29,640
they get into Nevada to join. I don't know, I'm

1358
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,880
just kind of kind of speculating, but I did find

1359
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,600
that that a little bit interesting, and you know, kind

1360
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,119
of big picture because you have betam JM Poker has

1361
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:42,319
already done it in linked now betam JM Poker is

1362
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:46,479
not in Nevada, but you know across New Jersey, Pennsylvania,

1363
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,199
and Michigan, those pools are linked. And then you have WSOP,

1364
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,640
which is in Nevada and now is linked with Nevada,

1365
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,640
New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. I mean, Poker Stars. I

1366
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,680
feel like it's just gonna fall further behind in the US,

1367
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,359
which is not what you want to do, right you

1368
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:08,800
know if especially like let's say you're in Pennsylvania, you

1369
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,760
know you have an option to obviously, you have an

1370
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,840
option to play on all the sites that you want. Yes,

1371
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:17,920
I will tell you, as somebody who has played online

1372
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,159
poker quite a bit, it's just easier just to have

1373
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:22,319
all your funds and everything in one plays and fire

1374
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:25,279
up one platform. That's just easier. Like yeah, you know,

1375
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,680
like the true diehards and the pros will fire up

1376
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:30,079
multiple sites and whatever. But a lot of people, I

1377
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:33,119
think just they play where they play. You know, they

1378
01:09:33,119 --> 01:09:35,359
put all their money on the they're five hundred bucks,

1379
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:37,399
their a thousand bucks on one site and like that's it.

1380
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,319
And if if the biggest and best games are are

1381
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,159
I would say Devasity first because they include Nevada, and

1382
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,840
then second to bet MGM, doesn't Poker Stars kind of

1383
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,399
like fall further down. So I don't know, I found

1384
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:54,119
the I found the decision to be interesting. That said, again,

1385
01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:56,880
you know, they did say they're not immediately going to

1386
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,159
do it, kind of like it seems like it's like

1387
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:02,439
a prioritization thing. So that would tell me that there

1388
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,199
are plans for it. Yes, So so we'll see. I

1389
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:07,640
don't know, do you have any thoughts here?

1390
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: I think it's just I just my guess is that, yeah,

1391
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,760
obviously there's a lot more things at the forefront for

1392
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,520
pocus Stars around the world then the merge liquidity here

1393
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,960
in the States. They probably also want to see how,

1394
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,119
you know, how it works for Nevada, how it works

1395
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:27,760
for you know, a bet MGM if that comes next,

1396
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,880
and see if there are any issues before they kind

1397
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,600
of launch into it. And yeah, I just don't think

1398
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,439
it like like they've said, it's not a priority. Their

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priorities obviously real money gaming outside of America, their tours,

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and then when you come here, it's going to probably

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be resorts World, the return of the napt which you know,

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having this live leading into that is good for boosting

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01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:57,119
numbers and satellite qualifiers, et cetera. So maybe not a

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priority now, but hopefully a priority soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I also do think you know, you

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mentioned the NAPT I mean, they did say that that's

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coming back, you know, similar sort of timeframe. I would

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guess November, right, So, I mean I would I would

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have thought that, you know, you want to link the

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player pools because you want to be able to run

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more qualifiers for that event. Now we all know they're

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not in Nevada, yes, but this I would say, Flagship

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01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:27,199
North American event is in Nevada, So don't you want

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like bigger qualification pools and satellite qualifiers and all that

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sort of stuff like it Just that seems like it

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would make sense. But hey, who knows, there's probably news

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that that is going to come out, So we'll just

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kind of keep an eye on this one and see

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how it goes. But right now, you know, Poker Stars

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has put out a statement saying, you know, it is

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01:11:47,279 --> 01:11:51,399
postponing the the joining of the Pennsylvania Shared Liquidity, So

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just just kind of kind of flagging that one. And

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then also as it relates to online poker. You got

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Club WPT Goal, which is a sweepstakes poker model similar

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to that that is offered by Global Poker. They are

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reportedly switching from a web based platform to a downloadable client,

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and they're also going to introduce multi table capabilities, So

1428
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this is interesting. Before it was web based, both on

1429
01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:29,039
desktop or on mobile devices, and you could only play

1430
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:34,319
one table, right, Yeah, So I find it interesting because

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I don't know, I feel like it's a move to

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become a poker site that's geared more towards poker players,

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which I don't necessarily disagree with. I'm just pointing that

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out how I'm kind of thinking about things. But when

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you start offering things like multi tables, and you know,

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doing that via a downloadable client, I feel like that's

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going to benefit more pro players, more serious players, which

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then makes the site harder, which can ultimately kill off

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your player pool. So it's just an interesting development, is

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kind of what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 2: So so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think people kind of thought, okay, like

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you know, Club WPT Gold is probably fairly soft right now,

1444
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:31,279
and does this mean that it's only going to get harder?

1445
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,640
And then if it gets harder. Does the player pool shrink?

1446
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,479
And if the player pool shrinks but they want to

1447
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,159
keep the same revenue, do they then have to increase rake?

1448
01:13:39,319 --> 01:13:41,880
Like that's just a big picture, Like how does this

1449
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,680
all play out? I mean, I would I'm not going

1450
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,600
to be against being able to play multiple tables on

1451
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,079
Club WBT Gold. Yes, but like you know, is that

1452
01:13:52,399 --> 01:13:55,119
is that ultimately going to be a positive or negative?

1453
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:57,319
You know, I don't know. I guess we'll wait to

1454
01:13:57,399 --> 01:13:59,239
see how it plays out. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with everything you said there.

1456
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,199
I think they're still trying to figure out exactly what

1457
01:14:05,239 --> 01:14:07,880
they're trying to do, you know, different types of promotions.

1458
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,039
You know, they have their big promotion coming up during

1459
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:15,239
the summer. But yeah, like it's it's kind of hard

1460
01:14:15,279 --> 01:14:20,680
to gauge their strategic goal. But yeah, definitely leaning into

1461
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:26,840
more being poker player friendly than anything, especially with you know,

1462
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,279
having done polk having you know, Ethan Yall involved, Like

1463
01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:33,600
more poker player than none.

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, another thing like the Poker Stars news.

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01:14:37,119 --> 01:14:40,479
You know, Well, we'll see how this one goes.

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have anything else to talk about

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except for the code word, and the code word is

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going to be as we tie it all into this episode,

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what sir, you tell me you're the code word guy.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fitting that it should be W S

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O p APP one word, seven letters, W S O

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01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,159
P A p P. Put that in gain additional tickets

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01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,359
to be in the running to be the Popago podcast

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01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,640
representative in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. All that information

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01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,560
PGT dot com, slash dream c you can see all

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,159
the promotions that we're running as along with a link

1478
01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:27,520
to go straight to the podcast one and it's also

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hopefully in the description of this podcast wherever you're listening Spotify, Apple,

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01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,640
Google Podcasts. I don't even know where else we can

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,960
listen to podcasts, don't know, but all of us everywhere.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's going to do it for us.

1483
01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:45,800
And considering I have to jump on another call that

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,640
i'm late for, we're going to get out of here

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,960
nice and fast. So my name is Donna Peters, his

1486
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:52,760
name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you guys

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01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,720
next time. So yeah, ja