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rights of the Stars out of Cash, joining us for
a Wednesday, April first edition of Cougar Sports. Say you
into the April Fools jokes? Do you like April Fools jokes?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 3: Wire wine out.
Speaker 4: Let's welcome in Ronald the three Man Weaver, the architect
of the show today.
Speaker 3: What's up, Ronnie?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 5: I am a fan of the April Fools jokes. I'll
take you pretty far. My wife has attracted me and
said no more jokes, obviously, because I do take things
way past what they should be.
Speaker 2: But what I'm about to tell you is not a joke.
Fielding on the Morning Show this morning almost lost my life.
Speaker 5: Kid you not, It's not a joke. Was walking across
the street and people really need to not be on
their phones and drive. Ben and I look to the
left and I'm like, okay, perfect, I have the green
by the way, like twenty seconds left. Walking across the street,
lady goes off of the gas pedal, hits the acceleration hard,
looks up on her phone and I had to jump back,
and she like saw it and stopped and said I'm
so sorry, And I said, what are you doing? Like
in it's raining it's not good and didn't make it worse.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I know, yeah, this is a little bit of a
funny one. And I texted to Brett but I'm revealing
it now. Was eating my lunch, getting Jimmy John's and
the lady didn't take my order but gives it to me, says,
here you go, ma'am.
Speaker 2: Have a good day, I.
Speaker 5: Said, ma'am. Oh, I'm so sorry, sir. I was wow,
I said, okay. I was like, so, I guess I'm
just getting hit. I almost lost my life and I'm
getting called to ma'am. I was like, I don't know
what's going on today, but happy Apri fools to everybody
that's not aperfools.
Speaker 3: That really did happen to me so far?
Speaker 4: Okay, man, Look, please be careful when you're crossed the road.
Looke both ways, and if you're driving, please do not
be texting and driving.
Speaker 3: Keep your eyes up.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons I mean, shoot, like, with all
these distracted drivers, do you want to go to autonomous
driving vehicles? Do you want to hand it over to
Elon and Tesla? Right now? With all these distracted drivers,
would they be better off in full self driving mode
or on their phones while they drive because there's not
enough cops out there, and a lot of people don't
want more cops.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, if you, if you, if you want
accountability and you want them to be handed out tickets,
how do you do it without enforcement? This is a
this is a modern era problem. How do you solve it?
To to to solve it all? We got bred Hammer
bred Hammer Time show hammer Time. Uh, delve into the
the the big Brain ears he's got the biggest brain.
We've measured it on ESPN for the fancy. But how
do we solve this problem?
Speaker 3: I have solved it. I have all the answers before
I delve into it.
Speaker 6: I think April Fools might be the dumbest holiday we
have as a country. Oh Like, I think National Sandwich
Day makes more sense to me than April Fols.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Sandwich Day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, whatever it is, April Fools is the dumbest holiday
in the world because it gets people like my good
friends over at b a TV to just do some
dumb things. And I want it on the record. I
talked with Spencer Linton today. He said, look, he said,
this was not my idea. I tried to push back
in the morning meeting. I lost that. So that's number one,
April Fools is stupid. To your second question, it's interesting
that you bring this up about Tesla and self driving
and stuff, because I have a buddy in my ward.
His name's Oscar, and he works for Tesla, and his
job is he gets sent probably eighty clips a day,
and his job is to go through and basically train
the system to say, hey, you made a mistake here
or hey you did this, but actually human error was
what caused this accident.
Speaker 3: What percentage of these.
Speaker 6: Videos do you think end up are the car are
human error? I think the majority are human error, he said,
close to seventy percent of these clips that get sent
in by people who said, hey, my car messed up.
Speaker 3: He goes through, he looks at all of the analytics.
Speaker 6: And data and everything, and it says the human error
actually caused this problem. So then I asked him, okay, cool,
I said, when do you think, like the Toyotas of
the world and the Fords of the world, when are
they going to have self driving?
Speaker 3: He said?
Speaker 6: He said, what happened was like ten years ago they
all started working on their own self driving, But what
ended up happening was they realized they were so far
behind the game that they were never going to catch up.
So he was like, I think probably what will happen
is like he's like, I don't know this, but he's like,
my guess is they're so far behind they'll probably just
buy it from Tesla whence Tesla has figured it out.
My next question was, Okay, how close is Tesla to
having this whole thing figured out where you feel it
is one safe. He's like, again, I'm not an expert.
Speaker 3: Legally, I can't say this is what it would be good.
Speaker 6: But he's like, I don't know, probably like five years.
He's like, we're pretty clear. And when that conversation two
weeks ago, yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and look, which is good? I want a self
driving card.
Speaker 4: I think it's sooner because I have a Tesla. We
have two of them, and I have an older model too,
and my FSD is dialed like it's pretty good, like
it's getting better and better. Like I think it's more
like like three years. I think it's sooner than five.
I think it's sooner than five, and it could be
even sooner than that. But like, I think it's getting closer,
and I think you're right. I think they're gonna buy.
I think they're gonna have to buy it. I think
they're gonna have to buy.
Speaker 7: The technology makes so much money, man, between Startling, between Tesla,
between you know, all of these, you know, the these these.
Speaker 4: Monumental technological achievements that Elon has put together. I'm like,
I know a lot of people that hate Elon, but
like bro, the value that he's creating for humanity is
pretty insane. And I was going to full in on robots.
You're talking about surgeons, like you know, I don't know
that one.
Speaker 3: Operating on the human body. I don't know. I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: Like, all I'm saying is he's he's going to new frontiers.
There's no doubt about it. And as far as the
full self driving element, it's like you know they I
I've had it where it'll stop a runs out like
you know, these these cones there and they'll swerve around
it like I tested at like around in certain places,
in safe places, and it's pretty crazy to see how
far it's come, even the last two and a half
here since I purchased a Tesla.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have what's it called way MO.
Speaker 6: They have way They don't have those here, but they
haven't places like Nashville and other cities. And like it's
a fully autonomous taxi. It is a tesla that does
not have a person in it. So like to your point,
I don't know how far we are off. All I
know is I need every car to have it because
I'm so sick of getting on the highway and like
the thing that sucks with highway driving, and like where
I'm from in Pennsylvania, it's a one lane highway everywhere,
so it's like, yeah, I have to sit there for
a half hour, but like I have to use enough
of my brain that like I sit there with my
hand on the wheel and I have to stay in
the lane.
Speaker 3: But like I'm just I just get bored.
Speaker 6: So I would love for a car to be able
to drive itself so that way I don't have to
think too much about it.
Speaker 3: But it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to keep Ronald with three man
Weaver alive, Ronnie. So I think we need to get
some more full self drivers because they're going to be distracted.
These people are distracted.
Speaker 2: Look, Ben, I just put it up in the infinity.
Speaker 5: But you know, look, guys, get the thing that you
gotta do, like Uber drivers, put it on your dashboard.
We got those at Christmas time, Ben, because we're like,
we don't want to be a part of that driving.
Speaker 3: So I can put it and it has to hook.
Speaker 5: And before we before me and my wife take off,
we always said put the phone up, like we remind
the person. And it's like, you want directions, Okay, that's fine.
You can have directions. You don't need to be on
your phone and look at directions. Put it up, put
it on the dash so you have it. If you're
gonna drive a gas car, you don't need to be
texting and looking your head down and all of that,
because it's just look, the last thing you want to
do is be the reason you You took someone's life
or hurt them.
Speaker 2: And I don't like it. It been you.
Speaker 5: You and I know people speed through the neighborhood, so
I can't even imagine man at a normal stop like
we almost got hit today. It's like, look, speed exactly
you do. Every time I pull up to the stop
A sign before I right, I'm looking. I'm like, this
is funny, I said, I love the bumps because there
because you and I both have like mean mugged how
many dudes in trucks?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I'm like, dude, I got a kid
like man. She out there playing, I'm out there with her.
Speaker 5: But you hit my kid, Dude, Like, it's not just
gonna be you going to jail for hitting and then
I'm gonna lose I'm gonna lose my time because I'm
gonna take you out this world as well.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah, yes, indeed.
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's get back to my favor clear, be safe,
Be safe out there, guys.
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Fools Day, Bla, your sports Nation decided to try to
pull the Did they get anybody on this?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they got a lot of people. They got
a lot of people.
Speaker 6: A lot of people who didn't like, wait to watch
through the whole thing, Like they just watched the first
thirty seconds and they're like, oh my gosh, hopped off,
tweeted about it, and then come back and they're like,
oh I didn't know this was a joke.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got a lot of They got they got
a lot of people because I mean, look, this is
what I'm saying, Like a lot of people, those that
listen to our show know that this was not going
to happen.
Speaker 3: Aja coming back.
Speaker 4: We told you, no way, no, how ain't going to happen.
We've read between the lines, We've discussed the cougar bites.
He's giggling, he's uh, he's like side eyeing the camera
when he's talking about, Oh yeah, I don't know if
I may be coming back.
Speaker 3: It's up to my mom.
Speaker 4: It's up to my come on now, come on now. Anyway,
So Boa Sports Nation having a little fun. Hey, this
is a good April Fools joke. If you got people,
if you got a lot of people, it's a good
April Fools joke. So I got a tip of the
cap to Boa Sports Nation. Let's tune in. This was uh,
Spencer Linton and Jerem Jordan fooling Cougarnation.
Speaker 8: Okay, we've got something coming down the pipe in here
to Boa Sports Nation.
Speaker 3: Hold on, just sick.
Speaker 2: BYU Sports Nation breaking news, Okay.
Speaker 8: Ajd bons has apparently posted on the social media.
Speaker 3: Here's what he said.
Speaker 8: All right, okay, Cougnation, let's run it back.
Speaker 3: Why what business?
Speaker 4: Time to work?
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 8: Ajd Bonsa announces he's coming back for a sophomore season.
Apparently we thought this was literally impossible days ago.
Speaker 3: I have I have.
Speaker 9: Never been more happy to be wrong.
Speaker 2: Is this something?
Speaker 3: Is this real? I am stunned?
Speaker 2: What how much are they paying him?
Speaker 8: The most he's ever been paid in college?
Speaker 3: B y U is wow?
Speaker 9: B y he's gonna have to get very creative with
the n L nil approach here. I mean, how, I'm
how do you build a team around AJ and have
the financial support to.
Speaker 2: Can you scord Rob right the third?
Speaker 8: Can you afford Nate Pickens, Dawson Baker, other TVD portal guys.
Speaker 3: I mean AJ is back? Are you? Are you serious?
Speaker 8: I don't know why would he do this? He should
be in the NBA, he should be the number one pick,
he should be getting that contract.
Speaker 2: Look, we talked about this.
Speaker 3: Is he not?
Speaker 9: Does he not have like that level of defiance to him?
Like he loves to surprise.
Speaker 8: You think I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 8: That was Chelsea in his ear, super loud. Whatever you said,
Chelsea's mom, Chelsea is the real MVP. Thank you you
always immediately I'm in shuck you always immediately a National
Championship contender. Again, they have to support him. The donors
must have come up huge. What are we talking about
fifteen mil? If they're going to equal that contract, because
to me, that's what you'd have.
Speaker 2: You have no idea, but right now I don't even care.
Speaker 8: I don't even care, Frank, I know we have other
stuff planning in the program. We've got to throw it
out the window.
Speaker 2: This is just got to throw out the window. Come
to trending time.
Speaker 6: J D.
Speaker 8: Bonsa announces on his social DA's returning to Balla.
Speaker 2: All right, do you want to tell him or should out?
I think you should?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, your dumps.
Speaker 2: I know, we gotta least a few of you.
Speaker 3: No ways coming back.
Speaker 8: You guys are crazy think he's coming.
Speaker 2: Back the Nolay?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I mean, look, is it that outlandish to
a degree?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: How much money would it have taken to bring aj
back for his sophomore year?
Speaker 3: Okay? How much?
Speaker 4: How much money do you think it would have taken
to to entice him to keep him at the collegiate
level at BYU? Does anyone know kind of what that
number would be?
Speaker 3: I'm looking up Cooper Flags NBA coact. It's thirteen point
eight three million.
Speaker 5: That's want to say, fixteen million, So you'd have to
be the fifteen mill because you've got to go a
little bit higher, not too much, but it.
Speaker 3: Have to be fifteen million. That's what it would be.
Speaker 4: Second year for fourteen point five million, thirty years fifteen
point two, nineteen point two.
Speaker 3: Is fourth year. That's a that's a team option.
Speaker 4: So a total value of sixty two million, that's his Uh,
his average salar would be like fifteen six, So you
to be in that thirteen fourteen fifteen range. Now that
is more than the entire roster this last year. I
thought the entire roster payroll this year was probably in
between ten to thirteen million. Uh, just comeing from like
BYU and BAU donors, not out, not not the the
other nil kind of corporate deals that they have with
Red Bull, Nike, et cetera. Is it that far fetched
in twenty twenty six to come up with fourteen fifteen
million dollars of a Verney University. We chatted about Mark
Pope and Kentucky yesterday. Do you know what their payroll was?
Purportedly he didn't deny it. The report was twenty two
million for the entire roster.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that. I didn't see when he said that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said it in during March Madness.
Speaker 3: Was that the same press conference when he.
Speaker 6: Was asked about uh Yaxel Lindburg and how much money
they Kentucky offered him.
Speaker 4: I think it was in correlation correlation the same press conference. Yeah,
yeah it was, and he was him and a Han
and circumvention.
Speaker 2: But THET think he was denying I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Give you a quote.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't gonna give you a quote type of deal.
Speaker 2: See, But the Yacht think he was kind of like
pushing away from that.
Speaker 5: He didn't push it away from the twenty two million,
but he just avoided the question.
Speaker 4: How far fetched is it though? Like, would you be
surprised if somehow, some way BYU donors came up with
that amount of money just for the opportunity to win
a Natty?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: I can't believe what donors are willing to pay now
because I think about, like if I was making that
much money.
Speaker 3: I love BYU.
Speaker 6: But you heard it from Brett Hammer first, if Brett
Hammer becomes a billionaire, I'm not giving twenty million dollars
a year to.
Speaker 3: Be what what not doing it?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: BYU fans can hate me, you can say whatever you.
Speaker 6: Want me, I'm not that much money. How so iract
that people are willing to give? Like JT was saying
that there's like Juco guys who could make like in
the one hundred.
Speaker 3: It's like six figures.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised they're donors anywhere given that much money, which
clearly shows you that I don't have that perspective because
I've never sniffed that much money. So to answer your question, like, honestly,
I could see it happening. I'm not banking on it
or anything, but like the money that guys are giving out.
Speaker 3: Now already kind of blows my mind. So like, yeah,
I could see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how dare you note you're hundreds of millions. If
it was to an SEC school, I'd give it set
the SEC the SEC guy.
Speaker 3: I'm not donating money to a school. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean, look, obviously you don't value your
by you educate.
Speaker 3: You know all. You didn't value me by letting me
in the first time. So about that, how about you just.
Speaker 4: Call it even you like back then they didn't want me.
Now I'm hot, they all on me my money.
Speaker 3: Huh Yeah, it's like like the girl didn't you want
me now because I glew up, Oh no, I don't
want you. Yep, that's right. They didn't want me back
in twenty seventeen. They didn't want me.
Speaker 4: Look, I'll be honest, I wouldn't have been like overly
surprised if like they wanted to give it one more shot,
just throwing money at this thing just to keep them
right because like six season ending injuries that like never happens, right, Like,
so like, okay, if we just stay healthy, we're gonna
have a good chance to make another run. And let's
say it was around four point five million, and so
what AJ was making this last year and you ended
up spending anywhere from you know, six to eight million
more with the rest of the roster, you would be
up there with the Kentuckys, Like that's what I'm saying,
Like you would be at the Kentucky the Kentucky rate
right now at twenty two.
Speaker 3: So it's already been done.
Speaker 4: Twenty two been allocated to a team that was not
just well, not wanting done. But around to thirty two,
it's been. It's happened.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: They fell short a little bit, as did BYU versus
their expectation.
Speaker 3: But you know BYU wasn't healthy.
Speaker 4: Though you know, they didn't have they didn't have the
roster and intact they didn't have the roster in place.
Never seen that many season any injuries.
Speaker 6: So how much do you think aj cares that they
didn't win a Natty, And I'm not saying he doesn't care,
but like, I don't think he's completely dismissive of it.
But I also don't think it's like a game changer
to him. And so I'm just curious, like where in
like the Margins is aj de Bonsa in terms of
I'm bummed we didn't win a Natty.
Speaker 4: How many people do you know in the modern era,
in this new generation of just people that truly hate
losing more than they enjoy winning.
Speaker 3: Do you know anybody? I don't know that many? You
don't know anybody, Ronnie. Do you know anybody that like
is like like.
Speaker 4: Hell band, like they can't lose it anything like that's
like they just they can't lose and if they lose,
they're like in a bit of like an emotional psych
psychotic tirade India.
Speaker 3: And I know, just like in general, can can I
be honest if I look?
Speaker 5: Look And I've only been around him a few times
in interaction with the median outside, but I mean we
had what is it I interviewed? I can't remember who
it was before K but Trayson Boorgay, Jake Retz laft.
Jake Reds laugh seems like the type to like, you know, like, no,
I can't lose that, like and.
Speaker 2: That's because he's super competitive.
Speaker 3: But and that's because I'm telling Jake has some dog.
Speaker 2: Jake seems hell been.
Speaker 5: If you, if you, if you beat him at something
that he's like, no, I'm not letting this super dup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's ones, there's not that many people.
Speaker 4: There's not that many people, especially the most talented individuals
are not necessarily like like about that, like you know
me like where it's like, really, it's really impacting them emotionally, psychologically,
physically that they didn't win a championship or win a
national championship.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? So I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that impactful. Like does he want
to win one? Did he set the goal? Of course
he did?
Speaker 3: And does he work hard? Of course he did.
Speaker 4: But I don't think he's like losing sleep over this,
Like he's not losing. He's not taking it personally. He's
not like, oh my gosh, I failed and never again,
never again will this happen. I will never fail. I'm
as soon as I get into the NBA, I'm winning.
I'm winning the championship. I'm taking this team like, it's
just not the same. You have to experience a certain
I don't know, man like there's a certain psychology, whether
it's like Mamba mentality or or Michael Jordan if we're
talking like basketball. These are highly competitive, petty and like
detail oriented people that hate losing more than they love winning.
And that's a unique thing. It's a little bit of
nature and nurture. Where I was talking with Lee Kamart
about it actually yesterday, that dog mentality. It's like it's
a little bit like there's definitely some nature involved in it,
and there has to be catalysts of adversity in order
to extract the most out of you. To your point, though,
I don't think he's really lose an a sleepover it.
Speaker 6: So that's what makes me think that whatever that financial
number would be for AJSA, I'll come back like it
would have to be pretty high, because I mean, it
would be the equivalent.
Speaker 3: Of unfinished work.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple other things we have to factor
into it also, like just because you have one of
the best teams in America does not guarantee you a
national championship.
Speaker 3: That there's a reason we call it March madness.
Speaker 6: There is such a chaos factor that no matter how
good of talent you have, you cannot account for the
chaos and the madness of March. So even if AJ
does decide to say, hey, let's run it back, and
even if they do get some good players in the portal,
there's still not a guarantee that Aj Demonsa could win
a national championship. Yeah, you know what, There is a
guarantee you of though, that he can make thirteen million
dollars next year playing in the NBA. And so to me,
like I understand fans who say, well, why doesn't he
want to come back and win it?
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 6: If you had the opportunity to graduate like Summa cum
Lada or whatever, top of your class and get some
research grant at BYU, or you could go on and
graduate and get a job out of college that paid
you five hundred thousand dollars, You're not staying in school
for the fun of it.
Speaker 3: That's just, unfortunately how it is.
Speaker 6: We look at it that way because none of us
could ever win a national championship because we're fans of
the team. Yeah, but if you look at it from
AJ's perspective and what you would do if you were him.
It's like, yeah, it's a bummer that we didn't win it,
but we're happy for Aj.
Speaker 4: At the next level, the one element that we're not
taking into account is, Okay, where's he going to be
playing next year? And what are the state and federal
taxes that are associated with that.
Speaker 3: Just because you made fourteen million doesn't mean you made fourteen.
Speaker 4: Million, right, half of that's going to Uncle Sam typically, Okay,
that's going Uncle Sam. So that's where I said, like,
we've discussed this for it. It doesn't have to be
fourteen million. It can actually be like ten million. But
it's an independent contractor deal with his LLC or his
foundation or whatever it is. Right, whatever it is, you
can get creative with your accounting as an independent contractor
as a business owner. Whereas in the NBA you are
under the NBA logo, the Jerry West logo, and you
are going to pay taxes. Fifty percent of your incomes
going to state and federal Okay, that's that's the nature
of it. So that that whittles it down to you know,
seven million. So if you get to eight million, you're like, hey,
we're gonna get creative here.
Speaker 3: What do you know?
Speaker 4: And endorsement deals are not w two, that's an independent
contractor deal. So the question is like, is he is
he more marketable as a Kalie athlete at BYU in
the Big twelve with additional you know, Nike may be
saying like, I do you gotta go? You know, bred
Bull may saying, hey, we want you to go in
the NBA because they think it's you have more marketability there.
Speaker 3: But do you do you more games? Is it more TV? Though?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Is it more TV? Is it more live TV? Because
how many how many games are behind payball? What's the
average viewer if you were amount of these NBA basketball
games as well on the stream and on Nielsen ratings.
Look all I'm saying, if it was just a dollar amount,
you can get pretty creative with business structure. And if
you wanted to make that pitch to try to retain him,
I don't know if they really did. I don't know
if they went down that path. I think he was
always kind of you know, going elsewhere, But it had
been really cool to see that. It would have been
I mean, you take out. You'd have to take out
an insurance policy. Yeah, you know, there's no doubt, and
you had to really really really like want to. You know,
Jim Jimmer could have went to the league after his
junior year. I don't know if he would have been
a first round, tenth overall pick. He may have been
a first round, late round or even early second round.
Obviously he made the right decision, came back and led
by Too Sweet sixteen he became the Nasmith Award winner.
But sometimes some individuals have unfinished.
Speaker 3: Business that they want to take care of.
Speaker 4: But you got to make the pitch and there's got
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that's playing in the postseason for BYU is the women's team,
and I gotta give a big Cougar order League Camard
in this Lady Coog's basketball team. They're gonna be taking
on Colombia tonight five pm Mountain Time on ESPN two.
And it doesn't look like they're even favored in this game,
so it'll be a dog type of game for the
Lady Coogs. I think sixty and a half percent chance
of victory for Columbia, the Columbia Lions versus the BYU Cougars,
and Columbia's made their way through the wb I T
with some solid victories, as has BYU BYU Basketball BA
Women's Basketball, like most of the games have been. I
feel like handily you know, finished last game though in
the semi finals got a little bit dicey with Kansas.
You could tell the nerves got to this women's basketball team.
Do you think Ronald the three Man. You think they're
gonna be comic, cool, collected. Do you think that that
experience versus Kansas will allow them to be a little
bit more relaxed heading into this championship game or do
you feel like they're gonna be a little bit tight
like they were in the back end of that game
when the tension was highest.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think they will. I received a little
bit of information from a source that that this team
the message after they won was, you know, they they
obviously trust you know them in that situation, and that
you know, to build off of that. And now when
they put them in those situations when they have the experience,
but they have the ability to build up the confidence
and to go with the first read that they see.
So I believe because they experienced that, because the coaching
staff built them up, you know, telling those things after
the game, I think that BYU is gonna go into
this game be more common, cool and collecting. You know,
it only takes you a game to get the nerves out.
We saw this against in the Stanford game. Olivia Hamler
looked to be a little bit shacking up because of like, Okay,
maybe the moment was and all Lee Kamar did was
he said live, brought over, puts his arm around her,
says a few words, and then Olivia just took off
in the second half. So that's what the coaching staff
has done all year and still confidence tell them they
could do it, and then they learn and they execute
the next time. So yeah, Ben, I think BA women's
basketball they go out there and they get the dub
and they bring home the title.
Speaker 2: And if they do, this is only if they do.
I have a tweet in my draft.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like what Jonathan Tavanari said, there's a
good one and a bad one. If they win, I
would tweet at the NCAA tournament, you should have put
in them a tournament. But we'll wait and see because
the girls have to go play yep.
Speaker 4: Still gotta go out there and play ball. We wish
them luck and I feel like they're gonna get a victory.
I think it keeps to the game right now. You
gotta limit that ballers shot collar wise from getting buckets.
She scores twenty points a game, and she is efficient,
she has affected But I think we match up actually
pretty well defense against this team. So I can't wait
to see what b Yu can do against Riley Weiss,
the five foot ten junior out of New York and
representing Columbia.
Speaker 3: She is the star of the Columbia Lions.
Speaker 4: And I think maybe Delaney Gibb can match tit for
tat the scoring ability of the Columbia Lions. A couple
other things as we're delving into some of the news
and notes of the day, speaking of aj To Bonsa
right doing some things that no other Cougars, very few
Cougars have done in the past. Aj To Bonsa has
been given All American status.
Speaker 3: Right. Shout out to aj and what he's been able.
Speaker 4: To accomplish thus far in his collegiate professional career. He
was named to the twenty twenty six John R. Wooden Award,
presented by Principal All American Team is announced by the
Los Angeles Athletic Club Athletic Club on Tuesday evening. This
is the latest All America honor for Debonsa for the
two thousand, twenty five twenty twenty six season, a unanimous
consensus first team honoree. The six win nine forward earned
first team accolades from the Associate Press, n A, n ABC,
usb WA and the Sporting News to Bonsa is also
one of five finalists for the John R. Wooden Award
that will be presented on Friday, April tenth, at seven
pm Mountain Time on ESPNU at the Los Angeles Athletic Club.
Is a part of the Golden Anniversary Celebration. It will
be broadcast on ESPNU.
Speaker 3: So the John R.
Speaker 4: Wooden Award Men's All America Team includes Darius Acuff, junior
Arkansas freshman six with three guard. He was a bucket
this year. Cameron Boozer, Duke, Look at all these freshmen.
Cameron Boozer, Duke freshman six win nine Ford, Asia Dea Bonsa,
Jeremy Fears junior obviously Michigan State, Kingston Flemings, Houston guard
out of for this Houston Cougar's team, Joshua Jefferson iway
stayed looking at all the big twelve talent here, Yaxually
Endenborg of Michigan six nine four, Branden Smith, Purdue senior
guard six footer, JT. Topping junior out of Texas Tech.
And then Keaton Wagler, Illinois freshman guard. Look at all
those freshman guys. This is one of the best freshman
classes in the modern era. Who do you think gets
the Wooden Award?
Speaker 6: Though, Guys, the question that you have to ask is
how much do they value winning and how much do
they value winning in the tournament. I don't know when
this thing gets voted on. I don't know if it's
like the NBA and the NFL awards where it gets
voted on pre playoffs. I don't think it does get
I think I think your tournament factors into it. So
that's what kind of makes me think that it may
end up being Duke or it could be Axel Lindeborg,
just because both of them have had great tournaments so far.
If you look at the season of a whole, the
argument for Aja de Bonsa is pretty obvious. It's it's
cut and dry. It's Aja Bonsa led the country in scoring.
There was no one who scored more points than he
did on a team that didn't necessarily help him in
his tournament run. And I think it helps even more,
like if you look at highlights factor into it because
you have to have kind of your your your player
of the year moments, and especially that up and underdunk
that he did against Texas that I think battle factor
into it, but I wonder if it goes to Boozer
just because of Duke, just because of the tournament, just
because of I don't know that Byu has the same
national media cachet that Duke or Michigan does. And you
can hate a big brand, blue blood bias all you want,
but it is a real thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know that Aj Debonta wins Player of the Year,
even though I think he.
Speaker 6: Absolutely deserves it, And that's honestly not even the end
of the world, right because go look at the player
of the year in college basketball. The player of the
year in college basketball does not always go on to
be the best NBA player. In fact, more times than not,
they don't. It's kind of like the Heisman. There's a
couple outliers, but every now and then it usually ends
up being the guy who was the best in college
but not necessarily built for the next level.
Speaker 3: So if AJ doesn't win it, yeah, it'll be a bummer,
but I don't think it'll be the end of the world.
Speaker 6: The other reason ben that I don't know that he'll
win it is there was a day that Ron and
I had to do the show that you were out
and we found out that Aj Debonta was not a
consensus All American that votes went to other people, and
I wondered if part of that was there were a
couple of people who just didn't feel like BYU was
enough for them and therefore they split votes to others.
We saw that with the Big Twelve Player of the
Year Award as well, like votes got split and therefore
Aj didn't win it. I think he's gonna get a
lot of votes. Is he going to get enough to win?
It is gonna be the question, and for me, I
don't think he is. I think it will go to.
Speaker 4: Cambooser, Ronald the three Man Weaver. How you feeling about
the Wooden Award? Where will it go? And what do
you make of the All American Team from the John R.
Wooden Awards Men's All America Team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no issue with the All American team, But like
Brett said, this is a war. That's I'm pretty sure
if I had to, if you put a you know,
a gun in my head or Martian's pointed the debt
in the Earth, I'm gonna say it's based on winning.
Speaker 2: Seems like a lot of it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I go back to that that clip
of Chancer Johnson and Jamie Dixon value winning win.
Speaker 2: That was that equivalents MVP. Well, I do get that.
Speaker 5: I just I feel like they're sometimes you know, nuances
are the things that just are a part of it.
And BYU had one of those type of years, like,
are we gonna be surprised if bo is a top
five team next year in the Big twelve? No, And
people are gonna say, look, the injuries killed it. You know,
last season a j was a you know, it was anomaly.
But even though it's one of the most disappointing seasons,
the facts are still the facts. If they're voting based
off of winning by you didn't win, they don't care
the reasons why.
Speaker 2: I think two things can be true.
Speaker 5: They're gonna still say AJ's an All American in this
and acknowledge what he did. But they're also gonna still say, well,
he still didn't win. And that's why I do think
what Brett said. If it's not Cambus and then it's
Jaxa Lennenburgh, because Lindborg excuse me, because he's had a
phenomenal tournament. He's played great, he's had a couple of
highlights so if he were to win it, I wouldn't
be surprised, and I think he'll win the award and
lock it up Ben if he said, loses if he
beats Arizona, If they beat Arizona and goes to the
national Championship, I think the award is his. But if
Arizona gets him, then I do think the award will
go to cam Boozer.
Speaker 4: By the way, aj Debonza, the Big Twelve Freshman of
the Year, led the nation and scoring at twenty five
point five points per game, is scoring in double figures
in all thirty five games as a Cooker. He said
twenty one BA freshman records, season and single game records,
leading BAU to the NCAA Tournament for the third consecutive season.
Had eight hundred and ninety four points and that's the
second most in a single season in program history and
the third most by a freshman in the history of
the NCUBLEA Division One men's basketball. He scored twenty or
more points twenty eight times, including eight thirty point performances,
highlighted by that freshman record forty three points in a
win over They're utah Utes at the Marriott Center. Is
that his like defining moment as a BWAYU cougar was
the forty three points, the forty burger versus Utah.
Speaker 3: What is the defining moment of the age to bonsa.
Speaker 4: Era, the one and done era where you're like, oh,
he has like for instance, Kielan Marion, who is no
longer a cougar, but once a cougar was cougar. He
returned a kickoff for a touchdown in the Holy War.
Even though he's at Miami and I was going to
the NFL, he is still a cougar. Why cuz he
helped the Kugs win at Rice Ecles.
Speaker 3: Okay, at Rice Ecles.
Speaker 4: I think his defining moment was the Utah Game, a
win at the Marriott Center, forty three points.
Speaker 3: Boomshaka Laca.
Speaker 4: Even though you only gave us a one year, Okay,
you made it worth it.
Speaker 6: I guess this one is gonna be one that we're
gonna have to revisit, I think in six months, because
for me sitting here today, recency bias really plays in
and I think more of how he carried b Yu
in the Big twelve tournament, just slightly more than I
than I carry the Utah game even though like that,
I have no argument against that. I think the hard
part with AJ is he had so many thirty point
games that, like, it's hard to pick. I love Keilan Marrion,
but Killen Marion was not Aj Debonza. For BYU football.
It's easy to remember Killen Marion's because he didn't have
as many moments. So with AJ Debonsa, it's like, man,
it's hard even though obviously that was the most.
Speaker 3: Was with BYU for multiple years. Though ye know right
was big time moments did Killen Marion have?
Speaker 4: I mean, has a pretty you know, pretty good moments
right as a return that.
Speaker 3: Are equivalent to thirty point games with basketball?
Speaker 4: I think, yo, yeah, one hundred percent like that that
a touchdown. Yes, that's bigger what Kilan Marion did for football,
in my opinion, here's a hot take for you, was
bigger than anything that AJ did for by basketball this year.
Speaker 3: And that may be fair. But how many of those
moments did he have?
Speaker 4: I mean he had that that one beautiful moment.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful. I'm not debating whether or not it
was electric crea.
Speaker 4: I mean he had he produced, man, he had did
he produced?
Speaker 3: He was very productive.
Speaker 6: He was, but I think it's easier to remember with
Keeling and other guys because they didn't have as many
moments as AJ did.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I won't debate anyone.
Speaker 6: Whatever your favorite AJ moment is, I won't debate it
because you're probably right.
Speaker 3: But for me, it's like, dude, he had so many moments, and.
Speaker 6: I think about the Big Twelve Tournament most recently, the
way he carried a team that we didn't know if
they would win a single game.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's Big Twelve Tournament.
Speaker 6: But I will absolutely not argue anyone who says it's
the Utah game because that one absolutely deserves the credit
that it got.
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, what is.
Speaker 4: The defining, immortalizing, indelible moment for aj de Bonsa as
a Cougar in his's won.
Speaker 3: And Done era? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, I'll be honest, let me throw one out at you,
like controversial take when he went on to First Take
or when he went.
Speaker 3: On to the C Show, He's like, well, I can't play.
Speaker 4: I can't play, dude, b yuh. Like I know it
wasn't on the court, but like that alone, being on
national television, like committing to by You Hunt stephen A.
Speaker 3: Smith Show. Stephen A.
Speaker 4: Smith wants nothing to do with b Yu, doesn't want
to talk about him, doesn't want to be associated with him,
wants nothing to do with bringing university. In fact, I
think during the uh the Duke volleyball scandal, I think
he went off on some things that were inaccurate and uh,
you know, uh he leaned a certain way in that
regard and so look and he even went off.
Speaker 3: I think I think we posted his quote he said,
I don't know why the hell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't want anything to do with by so,
like honestly, like that's a great answer. I can make
an argument for his immortalizing, defining, indelible moment as a
BYU cougar in though his one and done AJ de
Bonza era it's when you committed to by you on
the stephen A.
Speaker 3: Smith Show.
Speaker 6: I don't hate that one at all, right, stephen A Like,
because here's the thing in stephen A knew what sure
Aj was wearing before he took it off, and he
just seemed so disappointed when Aj said he was going
to be He's like like somebody popped the balloon. He's like, wait,
this is what we're doing here. Really, this is not
a bit So I'm with that. Honestly, that could be.
That's top three for me. That is a great pull.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Roddy, what would you say? What is the defining
mortal and mortalizing.
Speaker 2: Son of motherless good? You stole mine?
Speaker 5: That's the one that I was like, dang, I was like,
then beat me to it, But no, I agreed. The
reason why I think it's that one because we all
knew that Aj was going to show it on the court.
We all had that feeling like, yeah, okay, as long
as he stays healthy. I mean he had a flu
game and DNP not playing and he still looked better.
Oh yeah, did that slip? Oh yeah, that's slip out
of my mouth anyway. No, I mean he challenges the greatest.
And when I say greatest, I'm talking about everything Steven
is accomplishing in his career. I'm not talking about off
of takes. And then I'm talking about where you get to,
because where you get to does matter, and you do
have to talk about how you elevate yourself. The greatest,
the most polarizing, you know, I think television personality right
now in sports, he literally sits across from casually. Ben
laid back hands crossed, feed up on his desk. What
you mean I can't play?
Speaker 8: BO?
Speaker 3: You a duke?
Speaker 5: And stephen A paused. Steven A rarely pauses. He normally
is ready to borrowbuttle and he had to think.
Speaker 8: Ben.
Speaker 2: He had to make steven A think for.
Speaker 5: Two seconds and then Steve is it, Well, I mean
you can play, you can play b you can play.
Speaker 2: Dude could be at you. That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, when I saw that from Ajor, I said, dog,
I was like, you're challenging this dude on his show
in front.
Speaker 2: Of everybody there. Millions are watching this. B. Why you fit?
Speaker 5: The numbers probably double for First Take that day, and
Brett has worked in television knows B why you fans?
Speaker 2: How many you actually watch First Take?
Speaker 5: Outside of aj Commit and Bruce Brinch, You probably don't
watch it that much, but you watch that day and
he said, you know what.
Speaker 2: Steven A, I'm gonna Mike drop you.
Speaker 5: He's like, you know what, I got the bigger set
of coconuts today and I'm gonna let you know it's
not that BYU is where I'm going so yeah, I
think Aj, before you even touched the court, he already
had the dog mentality. So I think that is because
I never thought that someone would challenge Schievine yet alone
a seventeen year old eighteen year old in that moment
and feel confident with it too. And the way he
looked at him like he look, I'm gonna go this way.
He gave the brother, look the brother look up.
Speaker 3: What did you say, Bro? What like? What? What? He's like?
Speaker 2: Why can I play duke?
Speaker 1: What? Nah?
Speaker 5: So yeah, I agree with you, Ben, is that one
You could go flu game, you could go put back dunk,
but nothing will be greater than television at eight am
Mountain time, ten am Eastern or whatever it was when
AJ checked Stephen A. Smith on his show and then
checked him again when he was on this podcast at You're.
Speaker 2: Not watching bo? Does he not know who they have?
Coming out like that?
Speaker 5: To me, that was I think that's the greatest thing
that I have seen about A is He's not letting
you get away with that.
Speaker 2: He he wanted all to smoke.
Speaker 3: So like, okay, then what other is it?
Speaker 4: The impressive reverse dunk is that you know in the
and the in the big twelve or in the NCAA tournament,
like they lost that game versus Texas. Is it the
dunk versus Houston and JG. Toppin you know the JG.
Topping dunk where he J. T. Topping was jj oh no, no, right,
it was a manual Sharp that is decision.
Speaker 3: No, it's Tuggler's Tuggler that man, Yeah, went to the
rim and dunked on Tugler. Is that Big twelve attorney?
Speaker 4: Uh, Houston Cougar dunk versus Sharp and Tugler?
Speaker 3: Right, you could not win that.
Speaker 2: Game, dude. If they could have won that man?
Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean that is what it is, man,
And we want to get Houston, just want to get
the Houston Cougars.
Speaker 3: What what would be for?
Speaker 4: Is it the over the back dunk at the marriage
center that went viral and plan?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But who was that against?
Speaker 2: That was against like Eastern Washington? Was it with the
Eastern Washing?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure?
Speaker 2: Double check faction Christian that's the one.
Speaker 3: What do we call him? That? Then? Apleing Christian over
the shoulder dunk.
Speaker 5: Certain things I can't say on the air that will
get us fine, you know, I'm serious.
Speaker 3: A belieon Christian tea bag dunk.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was kind of going that round, but you
said anybody was.
Speaker 3: Over the shoulder t bag.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm just trying to figure this out.
Speaker 3: Man. This is all that. This is off the cuff, baby,
this is radio lie.
Speaker 5: He got got him. That's all I'm gonna say to
that got him dunk. I guess you could say that
Asian buzz get eum dunk. That one's up there, Brett.
Brett likes this one because I know Brett was doing
when he went mealed from the free trow line.
Speaker 3: That was pretty crazy against Wait wait, wait one was
it when.
Speaker 2: He win milled against Utah?
Speaker 5: He like spins the pressure comes, he spins out of
the double team, he drives to the basket, takes one
two driveing wind mills from the free throw line, like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when he did the Yeah he did a wind
mill inside half court.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was ridiculous. I was like, I was like,
you win million inside a half court set, not a
paint was wide open. But that that that's that one's
up there to bit.
Speaker 3: That was versus Utah.
Speaker 2: I think so. I think that was versus Utah too.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna put.
Speaker 4: It out there as a question of the days say
what they got to say? Yeah, I mean, like anything
else that we're missing though, Like and this is the thing,
like it was a great year.
Speaker 3: It was a fantastic year. Like it was awesome.
Speaker 4: Uh, but like I don't know if there's like this conclusive,
like defining moment outside of like the Utah forty three points,
like the total the total ensemble, Right, did you have
a did you have a marquee win that he just
took over the game and like stamp of approved.
Speaker 3: Was it? Though?
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's the mark he win. But did
he have a marquee game?
Speaker 3: But he played well in that game? Yeah? And that's
the thing. It's like he played.
Speaker 6: Well in literally every game. It's like it's his marquee game.
But I think you make a good point run, like
because he played well in every game, then you kind
of have to take into account.
Speaker 3: Okay, well who was the opponent, Well, the opponent.
Speaker 6: Was top five Iowa State, whom to your point run,
he almost had a triple double in that game. And
I don't know if it works against him that, like
Iowa State never felt like they were in it. But
maybe that works for him to say, like they just
dominated Iowa State so well that you never thought they
had a shot in that game. I think Iowa State
could be it. I think we don't hold the Iowa
State game as high because then they went on to
lose and just pop the balloon right after that.
Speaker 3: Game, So we don't. We can't value that one as
much as we probably should.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he didn't play that well in the Texas
Tech game. Rob Right did because you know Christian Anderson.
But yeah, it's so tough. I think Brett what he
brings up is a good point. Ben the double loss
after the Iowa State game, like just valid the performances
of everything that occurred, and it shouldn't because to me,
when I look at the Iowa State game, here's another
moment before you had to think of man, he had
so many moments. He gave Melan a little and one
fallon took him out of the game. He gave him
the third foul on Meln and Melan had to jog
to the bench.
Speaker 2: You know, he gave m sauce. But I mean look
and he.
Speaker 5: Locked him up too, Like it wasn't just he scored
on him and got him out of the game on the
third foul in the first half. He locked him up,
so but yeah, it got diminished after they lost that
road road stretch.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he has so many moments.
Speaker 2: Man, it's just yeah, I can't pick, I can't pick.
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