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a Wednesday, April first edition of Cougar Sports. Say you

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into the April Fools jokes? Do you like April Fools jokes?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Or no?

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Speaker 3: Wire wine out.

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Speaker 4: Let's welcome in Ronald the three Man Weaver, the architect

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of the show today.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Ronnie?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: I am a fan of the April Fools jokes. I'll

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take you pretty far. My wife has attracted me and

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said no more jokes, obviously, because I do take things

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way past what they should be.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm about to tell you is not a joke.

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Fielding on the Morning Show this morning almost lost my life.

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Speaker 5: Kid you not, It's not a joke. Was walking across

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the street and people really need to not be on

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their phones and drive. Ben and I look to the

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left and I'm like, okay, perfect, I have the green

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by the way, like twenty seconds left. Walking across the street,

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lady goes off of the gas pedal, hits the acceleration hard,

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looks up on her phone and I had to jump back,

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and she like saw it and stopped and said I'm

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so sorry, And I said, what are you doing? Like

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in it's raining it's not good and didn't make it worse.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: I know, yeah, this is a little bit of a

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funny one. And I texted to Brett but I'm revealing

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it now. Was eating my lunch, getting Jimmy John's and

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the lady didn't take my order but gives it to me, says,

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here you go, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Have a good day, I.

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Speaker 5: Said, ma'am. Oh, I'm so sorry, sir. I was wow,

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I said, okay. I was like, so, I guess I'm

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just getting hit. I almost lost my life and I'm

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getting called to ma'am. I was like, I don't know

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what's going on today, but happy Apri fools to everybody

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that's not aperfools.

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Speaker 3: That really did happen to me so far?

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Speaker 4: Okay, man, Look, please be careful when you're crossed the road.

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Looke both ways, and if you're driving, please do not

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be texting and driving.

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Speaker 3: Keep your eyes up.

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Speaker 4: One of the reasons I mean, shoot, like, with all

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these distracted drivers, do you want to go to autonomous

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driving vehicles? Do you want to hand it over to

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Elon and Tesla? Right now? With all these distracted drivers,

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would they be better off in full self driving mode

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or on their phones while they drive because there's not

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enough cops out there, and a lot of people don't

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want more cops.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, if you, if you, if you want

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accountability and you want them to be handed out tickets,

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how do you do it without enforcement? This is a

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this is a modern era problem. How do you solve it?

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To to to solve it all? We got bred Hammer

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bred Hammer Time show hammer Time. Uh, delve into the

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the the big Brain ears he's got the biggest brain.

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We've measured it on ESPN for the fancy. But how

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do we solve this problem?

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Speaker 3: I have solved it. I have all the answers before

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I delve into it.

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Speaker 6: I think April Fools might be the dumbest holiday we

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have as a country. Oh Like, I think National Sandwich

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Day makes more sense to me than April Fols.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Sandwich Day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, whatever it is, April Fools is the dumbest holiday

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in the world because it gets people like my good

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friends over at b a TV to just do some

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dumb things. And I want it on the record. I

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talked with Spencer Linton today. He said, look, he said,

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this was not my idea. I tried to push back

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in the morning meeting. I lost that. So that's number one,

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April Fools is stupid. To your second question, it's interesting

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that you bring this up about Tesla and self driving

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and stuff, because I have a buddy in my ward.

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His name's Oscar, and he works for Tesla, and his

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job is he gets sent probably eighty clips a day,

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and his job is to go through and basically train

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the system to say, hey, you made a mistake here

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or hey you did this, but actually human error was

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what caused this accident.

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Speaker 3: What percentage of these.

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Speaker 6: Videos do you think end up are the car are

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human error? I think the majority are human error, he said,

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close to seventy percent of these clips that get sent

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in by people who said, hey, my car messed up.

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Speaker 3: He goes through, he looks at all of the analytics.

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Speaker 6: And data and everything, and it says the human error

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actually caused this problem. So then I asked him, okay, cool,

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I said, when do you think, like the Toyotas of

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the world and the Fords of the world, when are

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they going to have self driving?

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Speaker 3: He said?

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Speaker 6: He said, what happened was like ten years ago they

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all started working on their own self driving, But what

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ended up happening was they realized they were so far

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behind the game that they were never going to catch up.

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So he was like, I think probably what will happen

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is like he's like, I don't know this, but he's like,

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my guess is they're so far behind they'll probably just

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buy it from Tesla whence Tesla has figured it out.

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having this whole thing figured out where you feel it

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is one safe. He's like, again, I'm not an expert.

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Speaker 3: Legally, I can't say this is what it would be good.

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Speaker 6: But he's like, I don't know, probably like five years.

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He's like, we're pretty clear. And when that conversation two

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weeks ago, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, and look, which is good? I want a self

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driving card.

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Speaker 4: I think it's sooner because I have a Tesla. We

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have two of them, and I have an older model too,

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and my FSD is dialed like it's pretty good, like

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it's getting better and better. Like I think it's more

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like like three years. I think it's sooner than five.

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I think it's sooner than five, and it could be

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even sooner than that. But like, I think it's getting closer,

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and I think you're right. I think they're gonna buy.

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I think they're gonna have to buy it. I think

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they're gonna have to buy.

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Speaker 7: The technology makes so much money, man, between Startling, between Tesla,

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between you know, all of these, you know, the these these.

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Speaker 4: Monumental technological achievements that Elon has put together. I'm like,

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I know a lot of people that hate Elon, but

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like bro, the value that he's creating for humanity is

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pretty insane. And I was going to full in on robots.

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You're talking about surgeons, like you know, I don't know

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that one.

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Speaker 3: Operating on the human body. I don't know. I don't know, man.

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Speaker 4: Like, all I'm saying is he's he's going to new frontiers.

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There's no doubt about it. And as far as the

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full self driving element, it's like you know they I

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I've had it where it'll stop a runs out like

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you know, these these cones there and they'll swerve around

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it like I tested at like around in certain places,

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in safe places, and it's pretty crazy to see how

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far it's come, even the last two and a half

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here since I purchased a Tesla.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we have what's it called way MO.

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Speaker 6: They have way They don't have those here, but they

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haven't places like Nashville and other cities. And like it's

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a fully autonomous taxi. It is a tesla that does

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not have a person in it. So like to your point,

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I don't know how far we are off. All I

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know is I need every car to have it because

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I'm so sick of getting on the highway and like

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the thing that sucks with highway driving, and like where

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I'm from in Pennsylvania, it's a one lane highway everywhere,

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so it's like, yeah, I have to sit there for

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of my brain that like I sit there with my

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hand on the wheel and I have to stay in

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the lane.

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Speaker 3: But like I'm just I just get bored.

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Speaker 6: So I would love for a car to be able

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to drive itself so that way I don't have to

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think too much about it.

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Speaker 3: But it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just want to keep Ronald with three man

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Weaver alive, Ronnie. So I think we need to get

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some more full self drivers because they're going to be distracted.

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These people are distracted.

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Speaker 2: Look, Ben, I just put it up in the infinity.

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Speaker 5: But you know, look, guys, get the thing that you

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gotta do, like Uber drivers, put it on your dashboard.

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We got those at Christmas time, Ben, because we're like,

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we don't want to be a part of that driving.

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Speaker 3: So I can put it and it has to hook.

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Speaker 5: And before we before me and my wife take off,

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we always said put the phone up, like we remind

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the person. And it's like, you want directions, Okay, that's fine.

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You can have directions. You don't need to be on

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your phone and look at directions. Put it up, put

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it on the dash so you have it. If you're

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gonna drive a gas car, you don't need to be

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texting and looking your head down and all of that,

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because it's just look, the last thing you want to

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do is be the reason you You took someone's life

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or hurt them.

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Speaker 2: And I don't like it. It been you.

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Speaker 5: You and I know people speed through the neighborhood, so

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I can't even imagine man at a normal stop like

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we almost got hit today. It's like, look, speed exactly

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you do. Every time I pull up to the stop

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A sign before I right, I'm looking. I'm like, this

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is funny, I said, I love the bumps because there

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because you and I both have like mean mugged how

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many dudes in trucks?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I'm like, dude, I got a kid

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Fools Day, Bla, your sports Nation decided to try to

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pull the Did they get anybody on this?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they got a lot of people. They got

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a lot of people.

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Speaker 6: A lot of people who didn't like, wait to watch

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through the whole thing, Like they just watched the first

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thirty seconds and they're like, oh my gosh, hopped off,

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tweeted about it, and then come back and they're like,

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oh I didn't know this was a joke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got a lot of They got they got

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a lot of people because I mean, look, this is

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what I'm saying, Like a lot of people, those that

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listen to our show know that this was not going

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to happen.

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Speaker 3: Aja coming back.

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Speaker 4: We told you, no way, no, how ain't going to happen.

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We've read between the lines, We've discussed the cougar bites.

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He's giggling, he's uh, he's like side eyeing the camera

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when he's talking about, Oh yeah, I don't know if

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I may be coming back.

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Speaker 3: It's up to my mom.

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Speaker 4: It's up to my come on now, come on now. Anyway,

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So Boa Sports Nation having a little fun. Hey, this

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is a good April Fools joke. If you got people,

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if you got a lot of people, it's a good

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April Fools joke. So I got a tip of the

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cap to Boa Sports Nation. Let's tune in. This was uh,

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Spencer Linton and Jerem Jordan fooling Cougarnation.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we've got something coming down the pipe in here

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to Boa Sports Nation.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, just sick.

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Speaker 2: BYU Sports Nation breaking news, Okay.

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Speaker 8: Ajd bons has apparently posted on the social media.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he said.

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Speaker 8: All right, okay, Cougnation, let's run it back.

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Speaker 3: Why what business?

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Speaker 4: Time to work?

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Speaker 8: Sorry?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Ajd Bonsa announces he's coming back for a sophomore season.

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Apparently we thought this was literally impossible days ago.

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Speaker 3: I have I have.

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Speaker 9: Never been more happy to be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Is this something?

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Speaker 3: Is this real? I am stunned?

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Speaker 2: What how much are they paying him?

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Speaker 8: The most he's ever been paid in college?

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Speaker 3: B y U is wow?

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Speaker 9: B y he's gonna have to get very creative with

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the n L nil approach here. I mean, how, I'm

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how do you build a team around AJ and have

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the financial support to.

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Speaker 2: Can you scord Rob right the third?

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Speaker 8: Can you afford Nate Pickens, Dawson Baker, other TVD portal guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean AJ is back? Are you? Are you serious?

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Speaker 8: I don't know why would he do this? He should

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be in the NBA, he should be the number one pick,

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he should be getting that contract.

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Speaker 2: Look, we talked about this.

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Speaker 3: Is he not?

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Speaker 9: Does he not have like that level of defiance to him?

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Speaker 8: You think I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 8: That was Chelsea in his ear, super loud. Whatever you said,

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Chelsea's mom, Chelsea is the real MVP. Thank you you

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always immediately I'm in shuck you always immediately a National

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Championship contender. Again, they have to support him. The donors

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must have come up huge. What are we talking about

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fifteen mil? If they're going to equal that contract, because

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to me, that's what you'd have.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea, but right now I don't even care.

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Speaker 8: I don't even care, Frank, I know we have other

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stuff planning in the program. We've got to throw it

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out the window.

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Speaker 2: This is just got to throw out the window. Come

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to trending time.

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Speaker 6: J D.

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Speaker 8: Bonsa announces on his social DA's returning to Balla.

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Speaker 2: All right, do you want to tell him or should out?

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I think you should?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, your dumps.

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Speaker 2: I know, we gotta least a few of you.

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Speaker 3: No ways coming back.

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Speaker 8: You guys are crazy think he's coming.

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Speaker 2: Back the Nolay?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I mean, look, is it that outlandish to

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a degree?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: How much money would it have taken to bring aj

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back for his sophomore year?

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Speaker 3: Okay? How much?

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Speaker 4: How much money do you think it would have taken

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to to entice him to keep him at the collegiate

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level at BYU? Does anyone know kind of what that

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number would be?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking up Cooper Flags NBA coact. It's thirteen point

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eight three million.

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Speaker 5: That's want to say, fixteen million, So you'd have to

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be the fifteen mill because you've got to go a

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little bit higher, not too much, but it.

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Speaker 3: Have to be fifteen million. That's what it would be.

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Speaker 4: Second year for fourteen point five million, thirty years fifteen

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point two, nineteen point two.

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Speaker 3: Is fourth year. That's a that's a team option.

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Speaker 4: So a total value of sixty two million, that's his Uh,

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his average salar would be like fifteen six, So you

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to be in that thirteen fourteen fifteen range. Now that

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is more than the entire roster this last year. I

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thought the entire roster payroll this year was probably in

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between ten to thirteen million. Uh, just comeing from like

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BYU and BAU donors, not out, not not the the

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other nil kind of corporate deals that they have with

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Red Bull, Nike, et cetera. Is it that far fetched

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in twenty twenty six to come up with fourteen fifteen

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million dollars of a Verney University. We chatted about Mark

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Pope and Kentucky yesterday. Do you know what their payroll was?

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Purportedly he didn't deny it. The report was twenty two

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million for the entire roster.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that. I didn't see when he said that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he said it in during March Madness.

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Speaker 3: Was that the same press conference when he.

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Speaker 6: Was asked about uh Yaxel Lindburg and how much money

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they Kentucky offered him.

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Speaker 4: I think it was in correlation correlation the same press conference. Yeah,

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yeah it was, and he was him and a Han

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and circumvention.

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Speaker 2: But THET think he was denying I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Give you a quote.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't gonna give you a quote type of deal.

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Speaker 2: See, But the Yacht think he was kind of like

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pushing away from that.

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Speaker 5: He didn't push it away from the twenty two million,

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but he just avoided the question.

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Speaker 4: How far fetched is it though? Like, would you be

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surprised if somehow, some way BYU donors came up with

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that amount of money just for the opportunity to win

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a Natty?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: I can't believe what donors are willing to pay now

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because I think about, like if I was making that

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much money.

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Speaker 3: I love BYU.

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Speaker 6: But you heard it from Brett Hammer first, if Brett

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Hammer becomes a billionaire, I'm not giving twenty million dollars

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a year to.

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Speaker 3: Be what what not doing it?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 3: BYU fans can hate me, you can say whatever you.

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Speaker 6: Want me, I'm not that much money. How so iract

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that people are willing to give? Like JT was saying

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that there's like Juco guys who could make like in

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the one hundred.

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Speaker 3: It's like six figures.

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Speaker 6: I'm surprised they're donors anywhere given that much money, which

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clearly shows you that I don't have that perspective because

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I've never sniffed that much money. So to answer your question, like, honestly,

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I could see it happening. I'm not banking on it

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or anything, but like the money that guys are giving out.

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Speaker 3: Now already kind of blows my mind. So like, yeah,

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I could see it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how dare you note you're hundreds of millions. If

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it was to an SEC school, I'd give it set

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the SEC the SEC guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm not donating money to a school. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean, look, obviously you don't value your

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by you educate.

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Speaker 3: You know all. You didn't value me by letting me

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in the first time. So about that, how about you just.

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Speaker 4: Call it even you like back then they didn't want me.

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Now I'm hot, they all on me my money.

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Speaker 3: Huh Yeah, it's like like the girl didn't you want

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me now because I glew up, Oh no, I don't

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want you. Yep, that's right. They didn't want me back

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in twenty seventeen. They didn't want me.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'll be honest, I wouldn't have been like overly

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surprised if like they wanted to give it one more shot,

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just throwing money at this thing just to keep them

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right because like six season ending injuries that like never happens, right, Like,

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so like, okay, if we just stay healthy, we're gonna

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have a good chance to make another run. And let's

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say it was around four point five million, and so

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what AJ was making this last year and you ended

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up spending anywhere from you know, six to eight million

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more with the rest of the roster, you would be

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up there with the Kentuckys, Like that's what I'm saying,

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Like you would be at the Kentucky the Kentucky rate

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right now at twenty two.

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Speaker 3: So it's already been done.

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Speaker 4: Twenty two been allocated to a team that was not

476
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just well, not wanting done. But around to thirty two,

477
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it's been. It's happened.

478
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Speaker 3: Now.

479
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Speaker 4: They fell short a little bit, as did BYU versus

480
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their expectation.

481
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Speaker 3: But you know BYU wasn't healthy.

482
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Speaker 4: Though you know, they didn't have they didn't have the

483
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roster and intact they didn't have the roster in place.

484
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Never seen that many season any injuries.

485
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Speaker 6: So how much do you think aj cares that they

486
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didn't win a Natty, And I'm not saying he doesn't care,

487
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but like, I don't think he's completely dismissive of it.

488
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But I also don't think it's like a game changer

489
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to him. And so I'm just curious, like where in

490
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like the Margins is aj de Bonsa in terms of

491
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I'm bummed we didn't win a Natty.

492
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Speaker 4: How many people do you know in the modern era,

493
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in this new generation of just people that truly hate

494
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losing more than they enjoy winning.

495
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Speaker 3: Do you know anybody? I don't know that many? You

496
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don't know anybody, Ronnie. Do you know anybody that like

497
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is like like.

498
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Speaker 4: Hell band, like they can't lose it anything like that's

499
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like they just they can't lose and if they lose,

500
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they're like in a bit of like an emotional psych

501
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psychotic tirade India.

502
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Speaker 3: And I know, just like in general, can can I

503
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be honest if I look?

504
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Speaker 5: Look And I've only been around him a few times

505
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in interaction with the median outside, but I mean we

506
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had what is it I interviewed? I can't remember who

507
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it was before K but Trayson Boorgay, Jake Retz laft.

508
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Jake Reds laugh seems like the type to like, you know, like, no,

509
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I can't lose that, like and.

510
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Speaker 2: That's because he's super competitive.

511
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Speaker 3: But and that's because I'm telling Jake has some dog.

512
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Speaker 2: Jake seems hell been.

513
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Speaker 5: If you, if you, if you beat him at something

514
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that he's like, no, I'm not letting this super dup.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's ones, there's not that many people.

516
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Speaker 4: There's not that many people, especially the most talented individuals

517
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are not necessarily like like about that, like you know

518
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me like where it's like, really, it's really impacting them emotionally, psychologically,

519
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physically that they didn't win a championship or win a

520
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national championship.

521
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? So I don't.

522
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's that impactful. Like does he want

523
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to win one? Did he set the goal? Of course

524
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he did?

525
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Speaker 3: And does he work hard? Of course he did.

526
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Speaker 4: But I don't think he's like losing sleep over this,

527
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Like he's not losing. He's not taking it personally. He's

528
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not like, oh my gosh, I failed and never again,

529
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never again will this happen. I will never fail. I'm

530
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as soon as I get into the NBA, I'm winning.

531
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I'm winning the championship. I'm taking this team like, it's

532
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just not the same. You have to experience a certain

533
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I don't know, man like there's a certain psychology, whether

534
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,359
it's like Mamba mentality or or Michael Jordan if we're

535
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,079
talking like basketball. These are highly competitive, petty and like

536
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:55,160
detail oriented people that hate losing more than they love winning.

537
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And that's a unique thing. It's a little bit of

538
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nature and nurture. Where I was talking with Lee Kamart

539
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,720
about it actually yesterday, that dog mentality. It's like it's

540
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:06,160
a little bit like there's definitely some nature involved in it,

541
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and there has to be catalysts of adversity in order

542
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to extract the most out of you. To your point, though,

543
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I don't think he's really lose an a sleepover it.

544
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Speaker 6: So that's what makes me think that whatever that financial

545
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number would be for AJSA, I'll come back like it

546
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would have to be pretty high, because I mean, it

547
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would be the equivalent.

548
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Speaker 3: Of unfinished work.

549
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple other things we have to factor

550
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into it also, like just because you have one of

551
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the best teams in America does not guarantee you a

552
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national championship.

553
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Speaker 3: That there's a reason we call it March madness.

554
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Speaker 6: There is such a chaos factor that no matter how

555
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:48,599
good of talent you have, you cannot account for the

556
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chaos and the madness of March. So even if AJ

557
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does decide to say, hey, let's run it back, and

558
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even if they do get some good players in the portal,

559
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,799
there's still not a guarantee that Aj Demonsa could win

560
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,200
a national championship. Yeah, you know what, There is a

561
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,440
guarantee you of though, that he can make thirteen million

562
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,079
dollars next year playing in the NBA. And so to me,

563
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,759
like I understand fans who say, well, why doesn't he

564
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:09,720
want to come back and win it?

565
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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this.

566
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 6: If you had the opportunity to graduate like Summa cum

567
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:19,079
Lada or whatever, top of your class and get some

568
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,759
research grant at BYU, or you could go on and

569
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,160
graduate and get a job out of college that paid

570
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you five hundred thousand dollars, You're not staying in school

571
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for the fun of it.

572
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Speaker 3: That's just, unfortunately how it is.

573
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Speaker 6: We look at it that way because none of us

574
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could ever win a national championship because we're fans of

575
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:37,240
the team. Yeah, but if you look at it from

576
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,519
AJ's perspective and what you would do if you were him.

577
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:41,880
It's like, yeah, it's a bummer that we didn't win it,

578
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,920
but we're happy for Aj.

579
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Speaker 4: At the next level, the one element that we're not

580
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:47,920
taking into account is, Okay, where's he going to be

581
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,519
playing next year? And what are the state and federal

582
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,200
taxes that are associated with that.

583
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,079
Speaker 3: Just because you made fourteen million doesn't mean you made fourteen.

584
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 4: Million, right, half of that's going to Uncle Sam typically, Okay,

585
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:00,599
that's going Uncle Sam. So that's where I said, like,

586
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,400
we've discussed this for it. It doesn't have to be

587
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,079
fourteen million. It can actually be like ten million. But

588
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,960
it's an independent contractor deal with his LLC or his

589
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,640
foundation or whatever it is. Right, whatever it is, you

590
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,039
can get creative with your accounting as an independent contractor

591
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,920
as a business owner. Whereas in the NBA you are

592
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,480
under the NBA logo, the Jerry West logo, and you

593
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,599
are going to pay taxes. Fifty percent of your incomes

594
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:37,400
going to state and federal Okay, that's that's the nature

595
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,599
of it. So that that whittles it down to you know,

596
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,799
seven million. So if you get to eight million, you're like, hey,

597
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,000
we're gonna get creative here.

598
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Speaker 3: What do you know?

599
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Speaker 4: And endorsement deals are not w two, that's an independent

600
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contractor deal. So the question is like, is he is

601
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he more marketable as a Kalie athlete at BYU in

602
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,279
the Big twelve with additional you know, Nike may be

603
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720
saying like, I do you gotta go? You know, bred

604
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,440
Bull may saying, hey, we want you to go in

605
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:14,480
the NBA because they think it's you have more marketability there.

606
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:21,039
Speaker 3: But do you do you more games? Is it more TV? Though?

607
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,240
You know what I mean?

608
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Speaker 4: Is it more TV? Is it more live TV? Because

609
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,839
how many how many games are behind payball? What's the

610
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,880
average viewer if you were amount of these NBA basketball

611
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games as well on the stream and on Nielsen ratings.

612
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Look all I'm saying, if it was just a dollar amount,

613
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,599
you can get pretty creative with business structure. And if

614
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you wanted to make that pitch to try to retain him,

615
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:46,480
I don't know if they really did. I don't know

616
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if they went down that path. I think he was

617
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always kind of you know, going elsewhere, But it had

618
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been really cool to see that. It would have been

619
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I mean, you take out. You'd have to take out

620
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an insurance policy. Yeah, you know, there's no doubt, and

621
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:05,440
you had to really really really like want to. You know,

622
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:07,920
Jim Jimmer could have went to the league after his

623
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junior year. I don't know if he would have been

624
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:12,079
a first round, tenth overall pick. He may have been

625
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a first round, late round or even early second round.

626
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Obviously he made the right decision, came back and led

627
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by Too Sweet sixteen he became the Nasmith Award winner.

628
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But sometimes some individuals have unfinished.

629
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Speaker 3: Business that they want to take care of.

630
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Speaker 4: But you got to make the pitch and there's got

631
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that's playing in the postseason for BYU is the women's team,

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in this Lady Coog's basketball team. They're gonna be taking

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And it doesn't look like they're even favored in this game,

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so it'll be a dog type of game for the

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of victory for Columbia, the Columbia Lions versus the BYU Cougars,

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and Columbia's made their way through the wb I T

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with some solid victories, as has BYU BYU Basketball BA

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Women's Basketball, like most of the games have been. I

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feel like handily you know, finished last game though in

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the semi finals got a little bit dicey with Kansas.

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You could tell the nerves got to this women's basketball team.

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Do you think Ronald the three Man. You think they're

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gonna be comic, cool, collected. Do you think that that

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experience versus Kansas will allow them to be a little

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bit more relaxed heading into this championship game or do

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you feel like they're gonna be a little bit tight

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like they were in the back end of that game

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when the tension was highest.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think they will. I received a little

710
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:33,240
bit of information from a source that that this team

711
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,759
the message after they won was, you know, they they

712
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,039
obviously trust you know them in that situation, and that

713
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,599
you know, to build off of that. And now when

714
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
they put them in those situations when they have the experience,

715
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,400
but they have the ability to build up the confidence

716
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
and to go with the first read that they see.

717
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:50,960
So I believe because they experienced that, because the coaching

718
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,240
staff built them up, you know, telling those things after

719
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,599
the game, I think that BYU is gonna go into

720
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,440
this game be more common, cool and collecting. You know,

721
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,880
it only takes you a game to get the nerves out.

722
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,880
We saw this against in the Stanford game. Olivia Hamler

723
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,799
looked to be a little bit shacking up because of like, Okay,

724
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:07,720
maybe the moment was and all Lee Kamar did was

725
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,559
he said live, brought over, puts his arm around her,

726
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,799
says a few words, and then Olivia just took off

727
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,400
in the second half. So that's what the coaching staff

728
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,400
has done all year and still confidence tell them they

729
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,319
could do it, and then they learn and they execute

730
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,000
the next time. So yeah, Ben, I think BA women's

731
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,599
basketball they go out there and they get the dub

732
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:24,519
and they bring home the title.

733
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:26,359
Speaker 2: And if they do, this is only if they do.

734
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,759
I have a tweet in my draft.

735
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 5: It's kind of like what Jonathan Tavanari said, there's a

736
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,519
good one and a bad one. If they win, I

737
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,440
would tweet at the NCAA tournament, you should have put

738
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,720
in them a tournament. But we'll wait and see because

739
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,799
the girls have to go play yep.

740
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,799
Speaker 4: Still gotta go out there and play ball. We wish

741
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,400
them luck and I feel like they're gonna get a victory.

742
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,000
I think it keeps to the game right now. You

743
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:53,279
gotta limit that ballers shot collar wise from getting buckets.

744
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:56,519
She scores twenty points a game, and she is efficient,

745
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880
she has affected But I think we match up actually

746
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,640
pretty well defense against this team. So I can't wait

747
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160
to see what b Yu can do against Riley Weiss,

748
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,719
the five foot ten junior out of New York and

749
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,880
representing Columbia.

750
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: She is the star of the Columbia Lions.

751
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,559
Speaker 4: And I think maybe Delaney Gibb can match tit for

752
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,960
tat the scoring ability of the Columbia Lions. A couple

753
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,360
other things as we're delving into some of the news

754
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,320
and notes of the day, speaking of aj To Bonsa

755
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,599
right doing some things that no other Cougars, very few

756
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:37,559
Cougars have done in the past. Aj To Bonsa has

757
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,559
been given All American status.

758
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: Right. Shout out to aj and what he's been able.

759
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: To accomplish thus far in his collegiate professional career. He

760
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,719
was named to the twenty twenty six John R. Wooden Award,

761
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,239
presented by Principal All American Team is announced by the

762
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Los Angeles Athletic Club Athletic Club on Tuesday evening. This

763
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,519
is the latest All America honor for Debonsa for the

764
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,679
two thousand, twenty five twenty twenty six season, a unanimous

765
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,199
consensus first team honoree. The six win nine forward earned

766
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,599
first team accolades from the Associate Press, n A, n ABC,

767
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,519
usb WA and the Sporting News to Bonsa is also

768
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,800
one of five finalists for the John R. Wooden Award

769
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,000
that will be presented on Friday, April tenth, at seven

770
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,400
pm Mountain Time on ESPNU at the Los Angeles Athletic Club.

771
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,079
Is a part of the Golden Anniversary Celebration. It will

772
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,079
be broadcast on ESPNU.

773
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,159
Speaker 3: So the John R.

774
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: Wooden Award Men's All America Team includes Darius Acuff, junior

775
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:36,239
Arkansas freshman six with three guard. He was a bucket

776
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,519
this year. Cameron Boozer, Duke, Look at all these freshmen.

777
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:42,920
Cameron Boozer, Duke freshman six win nine Ford, Asia Dea Bonsa,

778
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:49,519
Jeremy Fears junior obviously Michigan State, Kingston Flemings, Houston guard

779
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,199
out of for this Houston Cougar's team, Joshua Jefferson iway

780
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,239
stayed looking at all the big twelve talent here, Yaxually

781
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,159
Endenborg of Michigan six nine four, Branden Smith, Purdue senior

782
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,480
guard six footer, JT. Topping junior out of Texas Tech.

783
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,360
And then Keaton Wagler, Illinois freshman guard. Look at all

784
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,559
those freshman guys. This is one of the best freshman

785
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:16,840
classes in the modern era. Who do you think gets

786
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:18,039
the Wooden Award?

787
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 6: Though, Guys, the question that you have to ask is

788
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,519
how much do they value winning and how much do

789
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,559
they value winning in the tournament. I don't know when

790
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,559
this thing gets voted on. I don't know if it's

791
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,519
like the NBA and the NFL awards where it gets

792
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,400
voted on pre playoffs. I don't think it does get

793
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,280
I think I think your tournament factors into it. So

794
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,440
that's what kind of makes me think that it may

795
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,880
end up being Duke or it could be Axel Lindeborg,

796
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,000
just because both of them have had great tournaments so far.

797
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,039
If you look at the season of a whole, the

798
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:53,159
argument for Aja de Bonsa is pretty obvious. It's it's

799
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:56,000
cut and dry. It's Aja Bonsa led the country in scoring.

800
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:57,880
There was no one who scored more points than he

801
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,679
did on a team that didn't necessarily help him in

802
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,719
his tournament run. And I think it helps even more,

803
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,440
like if you look at highlights factor into it because

804
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,760
you have to have kind of your your your player

805
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,159
of the year moments, and especially that up and underdunk

806
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,559
that he did against Texas that I think battle factor

807
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:19,679
into it, but I wonder if it goes to Boozer

808
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:25,000
just because of Duke, just because of the tournament, just

809
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,960
because of I don't know that Byu has the same

810
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,440
national media cachet that Duke or Michigan does. And you

811
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,760
can hate a big brand, blue blood bias all you want,

812
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,920
but it is a real thing.

813
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that Aj Debonta wins Player of the Year,

814
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:45,960
even though I think he.

815
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 6: Absolutely deserves it, And that's honestly not even the end

816
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,480
of the world, right because go look at the player

817
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,239
of the year in college basketball. The player of the

818
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400
year in college basketball does not always go on to

819
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
be the best NBA player. In fact, more times than not,

820
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,199
they don't. It's kind of like the Heisman. There's a

821
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,639
couple outliers, but every now and then it usually ends

822
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,719
up being the guy who was the best in college

823
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,119
but not necessarily built for the next level.

824
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:12,519
Speaker 3: So if AJ doesn't win it, yeah, it'll be a bummer,

825
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:14,039
but I don't think it'll be the end of the world.

826
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,119
Speaker 6: The other reason ben that I don't know that he'll

827
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:19,000
win it is there was a day that Ron and

828
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,920
I had to do the show that you were out

829
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:23,320
and we found out that Aj Debonta was not a

830
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,800
consensus All American that votes went to other people, and

831
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,440
I wondered if part of that was there were a

832
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,440
couple of people who just didn't feel like BYU was

833
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,199
enough for them and therefore they split votes to others.

834
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,760
We saw that with the Big Twelve Player of the

835
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,599
Year Award as well, like votes got split and therefore

836
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,440
Aj didn't win it. I think he's gonna get a

837
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,679
lot of votes. Is he going to get enough to win?

838
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,880
It is gonna be the question, and for me, I

839
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,639
don't think he is. I think it will go to.

840
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 4: Cambooser, Ronald the three Man Weaver. How you feeling about

841
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,440
the Wooden Award? Where will it go? And what do

842
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,519
you make of the All American Team from the John R.

843
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,440
Wooden Awards Men's All America Team.

844
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, no issue with the All American team, But like

845
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,519
Brett said, this is a war. That's I'm pretty sure

846
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:11,119
if I had to, if you put a you know,

847
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,400
a gun in my head or Martian's pointed the debt

848
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,119
in the Earth, I'm gonna say it's based on winning.

849
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Seems like a lot of it is.

850
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I go back to that that clip

851
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,760
of Chancer Johnson and Jamie Dixon value winning win.

852
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,039
Speaker 2: That was that equivalents MVP. Well, I do get that.

853
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 5: I just I feel like they're sometimes you know, nuances

854
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,679
are the things that just are a part of it.

855
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
And BYU had one of those type of years, like,

856
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,480
are we gonna be surprised if bo is a top

857
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,079
five team next year in the Big twelve? No, And

858
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:41,800
people are gonna say, look, the injuries killed it. You know,

859
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,440
last season a j was a you know, it was anomaly.

860
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,559
But even though it's one of the most disappointing seasons,

861
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:50,840
the facts are still the facts. If they're voting based

862
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,000
off of winning by you didn't win, they don't care

863
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:54,840
the reasons why.

864
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: I think two things can be true.

865
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: They're gonna still say AJ's an All American in this

866
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,199
and acknowledge what he did. But they're also gonna still say, well,

867
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:05,840
he still didn't win. And that's why I do think

868
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,400
what Brett said. If it's not Cambus and then it's

869
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,159
Jaxa Lennenburgh, because Lindborg excuse me, because he's had a

870
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,280
phenomenal tournament. He's played great, he's had a couple of

871
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,800
highlights so if he were to win it, I wouldn't

872
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,360
be surprised, and I think he'll win the award and

873
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,880
lock it up Ben if he said, loses if he

874
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,039
beats Arizona, If they beat Arizona and goes to the

875
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,800
national Championship, I think the award is his. But if

876
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,079
Arizona gets him, then I do think the award will

877
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:30,920
go to cam Boozer.

878
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,159
Speaker 4: By the way, aj Debonza, the Big Twelve Freshman of

879
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,280
the Year, led the nation and scoring at twenty five

880
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,880
point five points per game, is scoring in double figures

881
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,559
in all thirty five games as a Cooker. He said

882
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:45,239
twenty one BA freshman records, season and single game records,

883
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,239
leading BAU to the NCAA Tournament for the third consecutive season.

884
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,400
Had eight hundred and ninety four points and that's the

885
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,639
second most in a single season in program history and

886
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:55,920
the third most by a freshman in the history of

887
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,480
the NCUBLEA Division One men's basketball. He scored twenty or

888
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,159
more points twenty eight times, including eight thirty point performances,

889
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,360
highlighted by that freshman record forty three points in a

890
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,360
win over They're utah Utes at the Marriott Center. Is

891
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,159
that his like defining moment as a BWAYU cougar was

892
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:15,000
the forty three points, the forty burger versus Utah.

893
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: What is the defining moment of the age to bonsa.

894
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,159
Speaker 4: Era, the one and done era where you're like, oh,

895
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,519
he has like for instance, Kielan Marion, who is no

896
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,880
longer a cougar, but once a cougar was cougar. He

897
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,960
returned a kickoff for a touchdown in the Holy War.

898
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,639
Even though he's at Miami and I was going to

899
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:37,920
the NFL, he is still a cougar. Why cuz he

900
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,320
helped the Kugs win at Rice Ecles.

901
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,159
Speaker 3: Okay, at Rice Ecles.

902
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,199
Speaker 4: I think his defining moment was the Utah Game, a

903
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,880
win at the Marriott Center, forty three points.

904
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 3: Boomshaka Laca.

905
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,679
Speaker 4: Even though you only gave us a one year, Okay,

906
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,119
you made it worth it.

907
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:00,079
Speaker 6: I guess this one is gonna be one that we're

908
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,920
gonna have to revisit, I think in six months, because

909
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,519
for me sitting here today, recency bias really plays in

910
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:09,320
and I think more of how he carried b Yu

911
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,079
in the Big twelve tournament, just slightly more than I

912
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,079
than I carry the Utah game even though like that,

913
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:19,199
I have no argument against that. I think the hard

914
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,840
part with AJ is he had so many thirty point

915
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,039
games that, like, it's hard to pick. I love Keilan Marrion,

916
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:28,760
but Killen Marion was not Aj Debonza. For BYU football.

917
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,079
It's easy to remember Killen Marion's because he didn't have

918
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,320
as many moments. So with AJ Debonsa, it's like, man,

919
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,639
it's hard even though obviously that was the most.

920
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,519
Speaker 3: Was with BYU for multiple years. Though ye know right

921
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:43,440
was big time moments did Killen Marion have?

922
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 4: I mean, has a pretty you know, pretty good moments

923
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,199
right as a return that.

924
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: Are equivalent to thirty point games with basketball?

925
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,639
Speaker 4: I think, yo, yeah, one hundred percent like that that

926
00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:01,000
a touchdown. Yes, that's bigger what Kilan Marion did for football,

927
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:02,840
in my opinion, here's a hot take for you, was

928
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,639
bigger than anything that AJ did for by basketball this year.

929
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: And that may be fair. But how many of those

930
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,639
moments did he have?

931
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: I mean he had that that one beautiful moment.

932
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: It was beautiful. I'm not debating whether or not it

933
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,719
was electric crea.

934
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: I mean he had he produced, man, he had did

935
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:19,159
he produced?

936
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: He was very productive.

937
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: He was, but I think it's easier to remember with

938
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:25,519
Keeling and other guys because they didn't have as many

939
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:26,559
moments as AJ did.

940
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,599
Speaker 3: And so that's why I won't debate anyone.

941
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 6: Whatever your favorite AJ moment is, I won't debate it

942
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,559
because you're probably right.

943
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: But for me, it's like, dude, he had so many moments, and.

944
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: I think about the Big Twelve Tournament most recently, the

945
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,760
way he carried a team that we didn't know if

946
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,400
they would win a single game.

947
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:45,039
Speaker 3: So for me, it's Big Twelve Tournament.

948
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 6: But I will absolutely not argue anyone who says it's

949
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,920
the Utah game because that one absolutely deserves the credit

950
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,400
that it got.

951
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:52,599
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, what is.

952
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 4: The defining, immortalizing, indelible moment for aj de Bonsa as

953
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,920
a Cougar in his's won.

954
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,599
Speaker 3: And Done era? You know what I mean?

955
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,199
Speaker 4: Like, I'll be honest, let me throw one out at you,

956
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,800
like controversial take when he went on to First Take

957
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,480
or when he went.

958
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: On to the C Show, He's like, well, I can't play.

959
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: I can't play, dude, b yuh. Like I know it

960
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,519
wasn't on the court, but like that alone, being on

961
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:23,559
national television, like committing to by You Hunt stephen A.

962
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: Smith Show. Stephen A.

963
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: Smith wants nothing to do with b Yu, doesn't want

964
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,400
to talk about him, doesn't want to be associated with him,

965
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,000
wants nothing to do with bringing university. In fact, I

966
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,039
think during the uh the Duke volleyball scandal, I think

967
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:39,440
he went off on some things that were inaccurate and uh,

968
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,639
you know, uh he leaned a certain way in that

969
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,199
regard and so look and he even went off.

970
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: I think I think we posted his quote he said,

971
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,760
I don't know why the hell.

972
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't want anything to do with by so,

973
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:56,800
like honestly, like that's a great answer. I can make

974
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,159
an argument for his immortalizing, defining, indelible moment as a

975
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,400
BYU cougar in though his one and done AJ de

976
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,639
Bonza era it's when you committed to by you on

977
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,400
the stephen A.

978
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: Smith Show.

979
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 6: I don't hate that one at all, right, stephen A Like,

980
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,159
because here's the thing in stephen A knew what sure

981
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,719
Aj was wearing before he took it off, and he

982
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,960
just seemed so disappointed when Aj said he was going

983
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,280
to be He's like like somebody popped the balloon. He's like, wait,

984
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,480
this is what we're doing here. Really, this is not

985
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,239
a bit So I'm with that. Honestly, that could be.

986
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,920
That's top three for me. That is a great pull.

987
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, Roddy, what would you say? What is the defining

988
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:38,960
mortal and mortalizing.

989
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,559
Speaker 2: Son of motherless good? You stole mine?

990
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:45,119
Speaker 5: That's the one that I was like, dang, I was like,

991
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,559
then beat me to it, But no, I agreed. The

992
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,159
reason why I think it's that one because we all

993
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,039
knew that Aj was going to show it on the court.

994
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,039
We all had that feeling like, yeah, okay, as long

995
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:56,280
as he stays healthy. I mean he had a flu

996
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,559
game and DNP not playing and he still looked better.

997
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:00,400
Oh yeah, did that slip? Oh yeah, that's slip out

998
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,880
of my mouth anyway. No, I mean he challenges the greatest.

999
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,719
And when I say greatest, I'm talking about everything Steven

1000
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,239
is accomplishing in his career. I'm not talking about off

1001
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,840
of takes. And then I'm talking about where you get to,

1002
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440
because where you get to does matter, and you do

1003
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,679
have to talk about how you elevate yourself. The greatest,

1004
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:23,039
the most polarizing, you know, I think television personality right

1005
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:26,920
now in sports, he literally sits across from casually. Ben

1006
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719
laid back hands crossed, feed up on his desk. What

1007
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,599
you mean I can't play?

1008
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 8: BO?

1009
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,199
Speaker 3: You a duke?

1010
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 5: And stephen A paused. Steven A rarely pauses. He normally

1011
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:38,199
is ready to borrowbuttle and he had to think.

1012
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 8: Ben.

1013
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: He had to make steven A think for.

1014
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:42,199
Speaker 5: Two seconds and then Steve is it, Well, I mean

1015
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,199
you can play, you can play b you can play.

1016
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,119
Speaker 2: Dude could be at you. That's not what I'm saying.

1017
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, when I saw that from Ajor, I said, dog,

1018
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,000
I was like, you're challenging this dude on his show

1019
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,840
in front.

1020
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,639
Speaker 2: Of everybody there. Millions are watching this. B. Why you fit?

1021
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 5: The numbers probably double for First Take that day, and

1022
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,440
Brett has worked in television knows B why you fans?

1023
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: How many you actually watch First Take?

1024
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 5: Outside of aj Commit and Bruce Brinch, You probably don't

1025
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,840
watch it that much, but you watch that day and

1026
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,760
he said, you know what.

1027
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: Steven A, I'm gonna Mike drop you.

1028
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,639
Speaker 5: He's like, you know what, I got the bigger set

1029
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:15,639
of coconuts today and I'm gonna let you know it's

1030
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,400
not that BYU is where I'm going so yeah, I

1031
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,960
think Aj, before you even touched the court, he already

1032
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000
had the dog mentality. So I think that is because

1033
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,960
I never thought that someone would challenge Schievine yet alone

1034
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:29,039
a seventeen year old eighteen year old in that moment

1035
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:30,519
and feel confident with it too. And the way he

1036
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,559
looked at him like he look, I'm gonna go this way.

1037
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,440
He gave the brother, look the brother look up.

1038
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: What did you say, Bro? What like? What? What? He's like?

1039
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Why can I play duke?

1040
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:39,199
Speaker 1: What? Nah?

1041
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,039
Speaker 5: So yeah, I agree with you, Ben, is that one

1042
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,280
You could go flu game, you could go put back dunk,

1043
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,400
but nothing will be greater than television at eight am

1044
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,199
Mountain time, ten am Eastern or whatever it was when

1045
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,400
AJ checked Stephen A. Smith on his show and then

1046
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,719
checked him again when he was on this podcast at You're.

1047
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:58,199
Speaker 2: Not watching bo? Does he not know who they have?

1048
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,360
Coming out like that?

1049
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 5: To me, that was I think that's the greatest thing

1050
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,360
that I have seen about A is He's not letting

1051
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,039
you get away with that.

1052
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: He he wanted all to smoke.

1053
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: So like, okay, then what other is it?

1054
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 4: The impressive reverse dunk is that you know in the

1055
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480
and the in the big twelve or in the NCAA tournament,

1056
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,199
like they lost that game versus Texas. Is it the

1057
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,840
dunk versus Houston and JG. Toppin you know the JG.

1058
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,599
Topping dunk where he J. T. Topping was jj oh no, no, right,

1059
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,960
it was a manual Sharp that is decision.

1060
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: No, it's Tuggler's Tuggler that man, Yeah, went to the

1061
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,119
rim and dunked on Tugler. Is that Big twelve attorney?

1062
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: Uh, Houston Cougar dunk versus Sharp and Tugler?

1063
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: Right, you could not win that.

1064
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: Game, dude. If they could have won that man?

1065
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean that is what it is, man,

1066
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,000
And we want to get Houston, just want to get

1067
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,800
the Houston Cougars.

1068
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,519
Speaker 3: What what would be for?

1069
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 4: Is it the over the back dunk at the marriage

1070
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,079
center that went viral and plan?

1071
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,039
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1072
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: But who was that against?

1073
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: That was against like Eastern Washington? Was it with the

1074
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:11,639
Eastern Washing?

1075
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:12,119
Speaker 3: I'm not sure?

1076
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Double check faction Christian that's the one.

1077
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: What do we call him? That? Then? Apleing Christian over

1078
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:20,400
the shoulder dunk.

1079
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 5: Certain things I can't say on the air that will

1080
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,440
get us fine, you know, I'm serious.

1081
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,599
Speaker 3: A belieon Christian tea bag dunk.

1082
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I was kind of going that round, but you

1083
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,599
said anybody was.

1084
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,599
Speaker 3: Over the shoulder t bag.

1085
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm just trying to figure this out.

1086
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: Man. This is all that. This is off the cuff, baby,

1087
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,079
this is radio lie.

1088
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,159
Speaker 5: He got got him. That's all I'm gonna say to

1089
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,840
that got him dunk. I guess you could say that

1090
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,440
Asian buzz get eum dunk. That one's up there, Brett.

1091
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,440
Brett likes this one because I know Brett was doing

1092
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:57,599
when he went mealed from the free trow line.

1093
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: That was pretty crazy against Wait wait, wait one was

1094
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,159
it when.

1095
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: He win milled against Utah?

1096
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,159
Speaker 5: He like spins the pressure comes, he spins out of

1097
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:06,719
the double team, he drives to the basket, takes one

1098
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,800
two driveing wind mills from the free throw line, like.

1099
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, when he did the Yeah he did a wind

1100
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,840
mill inside half court.

1101
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was ridiculous. I was like, I was like,

1102
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
you win million inside a half court set, not a

1103
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,679
paint was wide open. But that that that's that one's

1104
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,280
up there to bit.

1105
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: That was versus Utah.

1106
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: I think so. I think that was versus Utah too.

1107
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna put.

1108
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:30,079
Speaker 4: It out there as a question of the days say

1109
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:33,079
what they got to say? Yeah, I mean, like anything

1110
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:35,079
else that we're missing though, Like and this is the thing,

1111
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:36,519
like it was a great year.

1112
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: It was a fantastic year. Like it was awesome.

1113
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 4: Uh, but like I don't know if there's like this conclusive,

1114
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:47,400
like defining moment outside of like the Utah forty three points,

1115
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,880
like the total the total ensemble, Right, did you have

1116
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,000
a did you have a marquee win that he just

1117
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,559
took over the game and like stamp of approved.

1118
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:02,159
Speaker 3: Was it? Though?

1119
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's the mark he win. But did

1120
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,920
he have a marquee game?

1121
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: But he played well in that game? Yeah? And that's

1122
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,559
the thing. It's like he played.

1123
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,119
Speaker 6: Well in literally every game. It's like it's his marquee game.

1124
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,280
But I think you make a good point run, like

1125
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,880
because he played well in every game, then you kind

1126
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,920
of have to take into account.

1127
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,159
Speaker 3: Okay, well who was the opponent, Well, the opponent.

1128
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,039
Speaker 6: Was top five Iowa State, whom to your point run,

1129
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,360
he almost had a triple double in that game. And

1130
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:34,280
I don't know if it works against him that, like

1131
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,800
Iowa State never felt like they were in it. But

1132
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,320
maybe that works for him to say, like they just

1133
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,400
dominated Iowa State so well that you never thought they

1134
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,519
had a shot in that game. I think Iowa State

1135
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:48,920
could be it. I think we don't hold the Iowa

1136
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,599
State game as high because then they went on to

1137
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,239
lose and just pop the balloon right after that.

1138
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:59,119
Speaker 3: Game, So we don't. We can't value that one as

1139
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:00,440
much as we probably should.

1140
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:02,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he didn't play that well in the Texas

1141
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,400
Tech game. Rob Right did because you know Christian Anderson.

1142
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,639
But yeah, it's so tough. I think Brett what he

1143
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:10,079
brings up is a good point. Ben the double loss

1144
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:13,639
after the Iowa State game, like just valid the performances

1145
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:16,159
of everything that occurred, and it shouldn't because to me,

1146
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:18,079
when I look at the Iowa State game, here's another

1147
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:19,599
moment before you had to think of man, he had

1148
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,800
so many moments. He gave Melan a little and one

1149
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,760
fallon took him out of the game. He gave him

1150
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,159
the third foul on Meln and Melan had to jog

1151
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,719
to the bench.

1152
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,559
Speaker 2: You know, he gave m sauce. But I mean look

1153
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,280
and he.

1154
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 5: Locked him up too, Like it wasn't just he scored

1155
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,800
on him and got him out of the game on the

1156
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,679
third foul in the first half. He locked him up,

1157
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:40,960
so but yeah, it got diminished after they lost that

1158
00:52:41,079 --> 00:52:42,199
road road stretch.

1159
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, he has so many moments.

1160
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: Man, it's just yeah, I can't pick, I can't pick.

1161
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,199
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