1 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:08,679 Speaker 1: What is up, Fellawsichos. I am Dana Valley coming at 2 00:00:08,679 --> 00:00:11,919 you alone because we have a trade. We actually have 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,480 two trades because Thomas Briant and any tilt Indiana Pacers 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,079 from the Miami Death. But that's not super consequentially, the 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,440 Pacers get a big you can do some finishing, might 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,600 help them with rebounding, but that's not a massive trade. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,000 We've have a bigger one Dennis Shooters headed to the 8 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:29,879 Golden State Warriors reported before trade season kicks off on Sunday, 9 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:32,119 December fifteenth, but we now have the full details of 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,479 the trade because I, like a genius, waited until Sunday 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,960 morning to record this in hopes that the pick details 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,399 would trickle out, just to get some more information before 13 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:44,240 we break it down. Just a reminder not to only subscribe, 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,079 but go join our discord. 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So let's 26 00:01:13,359 --> 00:01:17,319 start with the details. D'Anthony Melton, so Brooklyn is receiving 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,519 the Anthony Melton Reese Beekman, who is on a two 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,719 way contract with the Golden State Warriors. They are also 29 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,040 receiving three second round picks in Atlanta's twenty twenty six 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,359 first round pick, in Atlanta's twenty twenty eight second round pick, 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,599 and Golden State's twenty twenty nine second round pick. The 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,680 Warriors in return, are getting Dennis Shruter and Miami's twenty 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,840 twenty five second round pick that is protected through selection 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,879 number thirty seven. And so I think if you're the Nets, 35 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:46,680 you look at this as getting pretty much three seconds 36 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:48,760 for Dennis Shreuter. You could say three and a half, 37 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:51,159 because I do believe that you've upgraded your second round 38 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:54,879 pick stash here considerably off that. You know, Miami's not 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 the greatest team this year, but top thirty seven protection. 40 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,480 So you're not guaranteed to get a selection in you know, 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,840 those first seven picks of the first round, and at 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,200 least with these, I mean, who knows Atlanta's playing well 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,640 right now, but who knows where they are in twenty 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,039 twenty six and twenty twenty eight, And just with the 45 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:12,400 Warriors' core, who knows where they are in twenty twenty nine. 46 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,000 So I like the flyer and then just getting the 47 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:18,400 stash there, I think, what and then for Golden State, 48 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:20,360 by the way, getting the additional second round or something 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,719 that they could just throw in a trade that could 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,080 end up mattering if they decide to make a bigger deal. 51 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:27,039 I think a lot of people look at this deal 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,639 for the Nets and maybe wonder why they didn't hold 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,840 out for more. The reporting from I believe it was 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Mark Stein, was that they were going to get a 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,360 first round pick. They wanted a first round pick. Excuse me, 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,199 Dennis Shuter's on an expiring contract. You don't really see 57 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:44,759 those players go for like non star material players go 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,560 for a first round pick as often anymore, even when 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,680 you're talking about a later first round pick. Now, could 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,639 the Nets have waited and maybe gotten more for Dennis 61 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Shooter potentially. But I think another benefit of this deal 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,919 that we have to know, and by the way, it's 63 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,599 a benefit for both, is that because neither Dennis Shrewder 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,680 nor de Anthony Melton was aggregated in the trade as 65 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:10,400 in traded with other players, they can now be aggregated 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,479 in other deals before the February sixth trade deadline. And 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,840 so for the Nets, just having Melton's expiring salary, if 68 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:18,520 you're looking to take back money in the deal, that's 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,199 a form of compensation that benefits them a ton. It's 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,360 just another movable contract that they can have, and teams 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,080 will view Melton as cap relief. Maybe some teams will 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,800 be interested he's done for the season because of that 73 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,479 ACL injury. Maybe some teams will be interested in carrying 74 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:34,800 his bird rights into free agency. YadA, YadA, YadA. I 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,479 think it's a bigger deal for the Warriors just because 76 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:41,159 you don't want this to be the biggest swing they make. 77 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,159 Dennis Shrewder and we're gonna get into it very soon 78 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:45,639 is not going to solve all of their biggest issues. 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,599 And I don't think is the difference separating the Warriors 80 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:52,960 from the league's title contender. Click and so you want 81 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,800 them to be able to aim bigger, and if he 82 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,479 wasn't able to be aggregated, then all of a sudden, yeah, 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,159 they still have these mid end deals. When Kyle hand 84 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:03,240 saying Gary Payton, the second Kevon Looney, even Moses Moody 85 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,639 on the poison pill can be moved. But if you 86 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:08,159 were going to make a big deal, you might still 87 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,159 almost certainly have to include Andrew Wiggins. But if you 88 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:13,879 were just taking a twelve point eight like or thirteen 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,079 million dollar player off the table has only could only 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,639 be moved as a standalone piece. That makes things a 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,639 little bit more difficult to you, because I think the 92 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,480 goal right now for any Golden State trade, unless they're 93 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:27,879 getting a cast lock wing, you probably want to keep 94 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,279 Andrew Wiggins because of how good he's been this year. 95 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:33,720 And from the nets perspective, I don't there's not much 96 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,680 to talk about with them. This will be mostly about 97 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,160 the Warriors. So let's clear up the nets first. Even 98 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:40,279 if you think they could have gotten more so through 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,199 out the benefits of being able to trade the Anthony 100 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,759 Melton in a in a bigger trade, you needed to 101 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:50,399 get worse. Cam Thomas is injured and your offense is 102 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:52,959 still way too competent. You've already lost ground in the 103 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,800 tanking race that you want to define. They reacquired control 104 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,920 over their next two first round picks, specifically to tank 105 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:03,560 like to be in the running for not just the 106 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,680 number one pick, but to guarantee themselves a top five pick. Basically, 107 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,639 they're not in that territory. And that's again with Cam 108 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,600 Thomas being injured, and so you needed to get rid 109 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,800 of Dennis Shooter, who's been so good this year. And 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,199 if the difference was could we have gotten better seconds 111 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,959 or could we gotten a late first I think it 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,839 actually is more beneficial to them to have just taken 113 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:25,600 this package three I would say, quality second round picks 114 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:29,079 in exchange for Dennis Shooter and a meh second round pick. 115 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,800 Making this trade now kind of ensures that you won't 116 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:34,959 have too much ground to make up later against other teams. 117 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,199 And as it stands, they might have too much ground 118 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:39,079 to make up when you're looking at could they still 119 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:41,439 fall into the bottom four for sure, but they're not 120 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,879 going to be on the Utah Jazz New Orleans level 121 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,680 of tanking or the Wizard's level of tanking at the moment. 122 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,600 So those are three teams that you can already I 123 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:52,399 would say right off that, oh, there's no way Brooklyn's 124 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:54,839 going to catch them in the lost column. And so 125 00:05:55,319 --> 00:05:56,959 if you want to finish, let's just say a bottom 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,800 five record should be the goal with this thing. Should 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 really be bottom four to get the top lottery owns possible. 128 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,720 You've now made this more likely, and you've done it sooner. 129 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:06,040 So I think there's value in that, and it made 130 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:08,920 sense for them to do that, and without knowing what like, yeah, 131 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:10,920 maybe they would have gotten more for Dennis Shooter, but 132 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:13,920 we can one. I think, even when I criticized trades 133 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:17,000 where I don't love the value for them, the fact 134 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,360 that in that moment, if you don't think that they 135 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 were just accepting the best offer, you need some reporting 136 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:23,920 to back that up. When it comes to and I 137 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,199 know people are tired of hearing this, it does feel 138 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:29,759 like the bulls chose first round, chose Josh Gidty over 139 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,040 getting first round equity. I know people are saying, look 140 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,360 at the way Alex Cruiser's shooting now, he can't stay healthy, 141 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:36,279 can't play a ton of minutes. I can tell you 142 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,160 with near certainty that they could have gotten at least 143 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:44,279 one really good first round pick for Alex Caruso, and 144 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:47,800 so they opted. Let's not go into, you know, imputing 145 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,000 the Bulls, We've done enough of that on this podcast lately. 146 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,839 But they opted for Josh Getty over that draft compensation. 147 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:56,120 We'll see how it pans out for them, But for 148 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,439 the most part, you're going to see like these teams 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,639 aren't pivoting away from offers that objectively better Because let's say, 150 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,560 when the Bulls did Trey Cruso, whatever that was on 151 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,360 the table from other teams, it might have just been debatable. 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,360 I'm talking about. You don't see a team just accept 153 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:15,959 what's objectively a worse package. There's no raging morons in 154 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,240 THEMBA to that degree of that I know of, anyway. 155 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,800 So I think this is totally good value for Brooklyn, 156 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:25,360 and that there's even more value to be gleaned because 157 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:27,519 they made this decision early rather than waiting until they 158 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,560 perhaps racked up more victories. Now from the Warriors perspective, here, 159 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,480 things get very interesting for them. They are about three 160 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,680 hundred and thirty thousand away from the first apron. Now 161 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,319 they cannot go over that. That's something to keep in 162 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:44,079 mind in future deals. But they were already dealing with 163 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,959 that because this only made them take on like two 164 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,759 hundred k in salary total, so they were already kind 165 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:53,800 of towing those margins. It's a bigger deal because of 166 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:56,319 what Dennis Shuder is going to do for them on 167 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,800 the basketball court. And the big thing is those non 168 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,920 Stepf minutes. There's the offense needs juice in general, but 169 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:08,720 the non Steaf minutes have been disastrous offensively. Golden State 170 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,879 ranks in the fourth percentile of points scored per possession 171 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:14,199 when Steph is not on the floor as opposed to 172 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:17,120 being I think they're in the ninetieth percentile or the 173 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:19,759 very least in the eighties of the percentiles when he's 174 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,120 on the court during those non Stepf stretches. Some of these. 175 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:25,879 You know, Moses Moody's injured now. I think he's dealing 176 00:08:25,879 --> 00:08:28,439 with the knee thing. But their most used lineups without Steph, 177 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,879 they do tend to include three of pods. Buddy healed, 178 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,080 Moses Moody, and then we've seen some Lindy Waters when 179 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,200 they're all healthy. I mean, as of right now, maybe 180 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,159 you don't see too much fallout. I don't think you 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,559 can afford to. I mean, Buddy Heels minutes will be 182 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,679 up and down at points. But the player I'm sort 183 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,080 of looking at is because he just hasn't progressed enough 184 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,120 as a playmaker. A shot maker would be Brandon Perjemski. 185 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,399 If Dennis Shrewder is really good, we could see Pods 186 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:59,639 minutes in peril, even before Moses Moody is healthy. And 187 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,279 so that's just something to monitor because the Golden State 188 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Wars are probably still pretty invested in Brandon Perjemski, but 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,600 they're also trying to win now and he hasn't necessarily 190 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:11,279 been a driving force of that, certainly on offense. What 191 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,799 this also sort of tells me, but we've seen this 192 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:17,120 before only to see the Warriors not do this. If 193 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,519 you're getting Dennis Shrewder, it would seem to imply to 194 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,840 me that Steve Kerr will run a more traditional half 195 00:09:23,879 --> 00:09:27,960 court offense, especially during those bench units. We have to 196 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,720 see whether that pans out. But like, if you have 197 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:33,320 Dennis Schreuder, you should be running pick and roles, would 198 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,559 be my point, and so you know, tie him. I 199 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:39,120 know the Warriors don't have the conventionally just really good 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,559 rim runner. Maybe that's something that they'll be looking for 201 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,039 on the trademarket further, but just play him with Tray 202 00:09:45,159 --> 00:09:49,240 Jackson Davis, an a bunch and run at least some 203 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:52,120 of those more traditional sets, ones that Dennis Shruter himself 204 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,279 is used to working within. Now, Golden State does plan 205 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,840 to per multiple reports, does plan to start Steph Shrewder together. 206 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:05,559 That's interesting. Dennis Shueter can be a pretty good defender, 207 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,639 and he is shooting thirty nine point six percent on 208 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:12,080 four catch and shoot three point attempts per game. But 209 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,879 we have to see just how that plays out because 210 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:15,559 he is six to one, and so are you making 211 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,600 yourself two eminently targetable on the defensive end or do 212 00:10:19,639 --> 00:10:22,240 you just believe that, hey, when we're gonna have Draymond, 213 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,559 and if or if we're gonna have we are gonna 214 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,919 have Draymond. But if you're gonna have an addition to Draymond, 215 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,960 you have you could futs around and you're going to 216 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,720 have Wiggins and you have Trace Jackson Davis, and just 217 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:33,840 the season that Kavan Mooney is having, if just in 218 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,360 general during the lineups he's playing with Steph, even if 219 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:38,120 he wasn't starting, you would still see those two on 220 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,840 the court together. If you think you just have enough 221 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 defensive talent to make up for it even without Melton, 222 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:45,240 that shouldn't be too big of a deal, and it 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,080 gives you I wouldn't say the Warriors need a number 224 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,399 two option. Dennis Shreuter that we saw in Brooklyn is 225 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:54,399 kind of that, but it will be intriguing to see 226 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,600 how that scales down to a smaller role. I do 227 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:01,080 think though, that he brings a lot to the table 228 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,759 for Golden State. Specifically, if he were on the Warriors 229 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:08,399 right now, he would rank first in unassisted two pointers 230 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:12,559 made and second behind only Steph obviously in unassisted three 231 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,559 pointers made. They need just this is an objective take. 232 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,039 Golden State needs someone with that level of juice, and 233 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,759 it's not John John thinkaminge'z too up and down with it, 234 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:25,399 and he's certainly not going to self generate good three 235 00:11:25,399 --> 00:11:28,559 point looks. And Andrew Wiggins is always over taxed in 236 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,320 that role. That's really not Draymond Green's role. And you 237 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,519 don't have anyone out like that's not a Buddy Heeled thing, 238 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:36,279 it's clearly not a Brandon Perjemski thing. You don't have 239 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,840 anyone else that is going to bring that to you. 240 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,440 And also the Warriors. Now this is in part because 241 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,440 it's it's not a huge aspect of their offense. They 242 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,559 are in the bottom five of drives per game. You 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,440 bring in Shrewder, who's around the top fifteen and drives 244 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,879 per game, that will dip because I'm assuming he'll wind 245 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 up playing fewer minutes in Golden State. But he's at 246 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,519 fifteen point eight drives per thirty six minutes. That rim 247 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,480 pressure matters. He's not the best finisher around the rim, 248 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,039 But the Doves just don't have a lot of non 249 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:06,840 bigs who put a ton of pressure on the rim 250 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,840 while also being on the ball. By the way, we 251 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:11,240 know GP two can get going downhill as a as 252 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,240 a cutter and even after setting screens. But if you're 253 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:16,519 and Steph could get to wherever he wants, I know 254 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,080 his game isn't necessarily pride it on getting all the 255 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,279 way the basket. If you're looking for someone who has 256 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,840 the juice to get all the way to the rim 257 00:12:23,879 --> 00:12:27,080 while while starting off possessions or ending the like, not 258 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,320 needing things set up for him, like being from a 259 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,039 dead stop and operating and attacking set defenses that way, 260 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:34,639 there's really you just you throw Steph in there because 261 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:37,600 he's Steph, and there's Jonathan Kaminga, and that's really it. 262 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:39,960 That's not even Andrew Wiggins's game, and it never really 263 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,559 even has been. He's always been a settler. So having 264 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Dennis Shooter to do that is a big deal. And 265 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:50,279 then there's the playmaking opportunities that should come out of that. 266 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,720 When you look at how much like Dennis Shooter's assisting 267 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,919 players on his drives, it's not sky high. It's around 268 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,919 like eleven point five eleven point six percent. I believe 269 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,840 that's still a rock solid number. It's just not unspectacular. However, 270 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,879 he is passing out of forty five point four percent 271 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:08,919 of his drives. So Golden State is going to let 272 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,960 him drive, he will pass out to players, and so 273 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,240 if he's going to draw defensive attention, he will find 274 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,200 open teammates. Could we see the Golden State Warriors shoot 275 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,159 a higher clip off of his passes and maybe that 276 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:24,240 was repressing his assist rate when he's getting going downhill 277 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,519 a little bit? Sure, But to just have someone who's 278 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,120 a functional, live dribble passer and can also attack set 279 00:13:31,159 --> 00:13:34,559 defenses in that way, you don't have that in one 280 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,320 player right now. Melton didn't give you that when he 281 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:41,600 was healthy. You're not going to get Draymond just even 282 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,720 from a dead stop. That's not Draymond's thing. And kaminga 283 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:45,879 not a good enough passer, even if you believe he's 284 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:47,840 a good like. Yeah, he is good like. He can 285 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,720 put pressure on defenses, get going downhill, and Podjemski doesn't bring. 286 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:54,320 He's not efficient enough of that to the point where 287 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,639 he's going to draw even two to the ball or 288 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,240 send defenses into to havoc. And I will be interesting 289 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,720 how much they allow Dennis Shooter to drive and like 290 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:05,759 the time and space they have to operate where his 291 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:09,559 strengths are versus trying to fit him into their larger ecosystem, which, 292 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,480 to be clear, can look beea utiful when it's really humming. 293 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,320 But you're now integrating someone who that's never he's never 294 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,559 played really a Warriors type style of basketball, and now 295 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,320 we're doing this midstream to where he's not going to 296 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,720 have a ton of time to acclimate himself. And if 297 00:14:23,759 --> 00:14:27,840 he's I think when players come typically when when they're 298 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:29,600 not stars, and even when they are stars, they're going 299 00:14:29,679 --> 00:14:31,840 to look to defer even more. But as of right now, 300 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:34,399 even if that just holds, he's passing out of drives 301 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:36,559 about as often as Jalen Brunson. And now Jalen Brunson 302 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,879 is a feature option. You want him to score. But 303 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:41,399 like Jalen Brunson, working in spacing and just deferring on 304 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,559 forty five, he's at forty five point nine percent is 305 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,639 his past ready out of drives. That's a perfectly acceptable 306 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:49,600 area to be in. Let's just see what it translates 307 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,279 to when you look at the types of shots he's 308 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:55,759 setting up for Golden State. Now, the macro fit here 309 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,120 is super interesting, and so getting into that, you can 310 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:01,639 look at where Denis Shooter has ranked thanks to be 311 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:04,679 Ball Index while in Brooklyn in what I would deem 312 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,320 certain key categories. And so I really am focusing on 313 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,399 the playmaking aspect here because we're gonna assume, yes, he 314 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,879 will play with Steph and that matters for playing the 315 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:14,639 Steph will make that easier on him. You should get 316 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:18,200 like to assists to Steph per game, I would hope. However, 317 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:21,679 I don't know that we appreciated just how much Dennis 318 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:23,840 Shruder was setting up teammates in Brooklyn like he was 319 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:26,919 the guy for like Cam Thomas can be the guy 320 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,759 on the ball, but not as a passer like he 321 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,559 was the guy sort of driving that for them. And 322 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,879 so you look at box creation, which is it was 323 00:15:34,919 --> 00:15:37,039 created by Ben Taylor, and these numbers come from Bee 324 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:40,120 Ball Index. That's basically the number of open shots a 325 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,759 player cars out for his teammates by drawing defensive attention. 326 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,000 So just think two to the ball or just defense 327 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,440 is collapsing on you. Denis Shruoter is in the ninety 328 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,799 seven percentile of that this season. That is going to 329 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,279 be an outlier relative to most of his career. But 330 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,080 he was doing that on a team that's less talented 331 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,840 than Golden State. So as long as he's still getting downhill, 332 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,600 he should be an excellent fit for them. Now you 333 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,120 get into what he's doing on ball, the on ball 334 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:10,320 gravity talk about sucking it opponents ninety fourth percentile for that. 335 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,720 That is great, Like that is something Golden State needs. 336 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:15,480 But if you're going to play him with Steph Curry 337 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:18,600 a ton, even though Steph's not on the ball a bunch, 338 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:20,440 you also have to factor in the Draymond Green of 339 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,600 it all is he's gonna spend time with Jonathan kaminga 340 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:25,840 is He's gonna spend time even with Andrew Wiggins. There 341 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:29,559 should be more off ball reps for Shrouder. You can 342 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,480 look at this in a couple of ways, and the 343 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:35,240 positive would be his off ball gravity is in the 344 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,720 ninety sixth percentile, and so you're gonna look mostly at 345 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,600 set three pointers there. That's good. That defenses respect him enough. 346 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,279 That's a positive indicator. He's also just like half court 347 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,240 shot making efficiency, he's in the seventy seventh percentile. That's 348 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,759 pretty good when you consider he wasn't necessarily getting the 349 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:56,240 easiest shots in Brooklyn because of how integral he was, 350 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,320 how central he was to the offense. And he's even 351 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,679 shooting I think he's like on pull up twos, he's 352 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:04,880 a close to sixty percent on the season. I don't 353 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,079 expect that those numbers to hold, but like that's the 354 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:09,839 he was should He was shouldering a pretty big self 355 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,240 creation burden. That may not it's not gonna change in 356 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,559 a lot of lineups, but it is going to shift 357 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:17,880 some in Golden State. And I think you can get 358 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,960 a little bit concerned when you look at the time 359 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,279 spent off ball. He's in the second percentile of that 360 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:27,799 this year, and he's never been a super high volume 361 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,799 off ball player, like just time spending away from the 362 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:33,640 action there. That's going to be something to monitor because 363 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:36,079 I would in certain lineups, if you're gonna play him 364 00:17:36,079 --> 00:17:37,759 with step and Dre at the same time, I think 365 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:40,440 that would be the most critical. There's gonna have to 366 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,319 be some adaptation there, or maybe you just expect Steph 367 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:45,720 fits around everybody. Draymond Green knows how to play away 368 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,799 from the ball, and if he needs to drive things 369 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:50,359 for them, I just don't. When those two are also 370 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,240 on the floor, you're not expected to see the more 371 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,000 conventional offensive sets that Dennis Shooter might be used to, 372 00:17:57,039 --> 00:17:59,559 and so I'm super fascinated to see how he fits 373 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:02,920 in there. His off ball shot making efficiency the seventy 374 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,599 eight percentile, that is again it's more than acceptable. I'm 375 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,960 saying acceptable and it comes across as a bad thing, 376 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,920 but you have to now scale that ahead. But what 377 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:16,200 I think Golden State has done here is they've made 378 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:22,359 themselves a lot better without giving up any core assets, 379 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,400 and so you have still held your powder to make 380 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,119 another move, and I would advocate we have to see 381 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,279 how this pans out. Maybe Golden State's offense takes off 382 00:18:31,279 --> 00:18:34,200 like Gangbusters here, but you have at least begun to 383 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,160 address one of your biggest issues. And I would just 384 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,359 say the offense during the non Steff minutes, even if 385 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,079 you just want to look at it from that perspective. 386 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,599 If you're asking whether Dennis Shruder can run maybe some 387 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,039 less talented units and get closer to the league average 388 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:50,119 in offense, I would hazard if you're getting this version 389 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,119 of him, the one that we saw in Brooklyn, you 390 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,000 absolutely can, and like that is just a big deal 391 00:18:57,319 --> 00:18:59,680 of itself. The bigger question is going to be I'm 392 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,000 not even too worried about the defense just because of 393 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:06,000 the surrounding personnel Golden State has. Now, if it gets 394 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:08,119 a little wonky, if you're ever looking to play him 395 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,680 with I'll say this, I don't think we're ever gonna 396 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,599 see Steph, Buddy Heald, and Dennis Shruter on the court together, 397 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,799 and if we do, then I'll be very curious about 398 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:18,519 the defense. But I don't think this is someone who 399 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:21,640 comes in and makes the defense so much worse that 400 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,519 you're concerned about them losing that aspect of their identity. 401 00:19:24,519 --> 00:19:26,039 I think they will be. I think they have the 402 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:28,720 defense of depth around them, especially the way that Andrew 403 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:31,839 Wiggins has played this year, for that to pan out 404 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 and they say, look, they're okay playing undersized. All their 405 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,200 bigs are basically undersized, and Gary Payton the second is 406 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:40,119 essentially a big that is just super small. So I 407 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,440 have confidence in that. I have confidence again in him 408 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,839 being able to translate what he did in Brooklyn to 409 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Golden State units where they're using him as the central option. 410 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,119 My question would be what does he just look like 411 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,559 off ball with this team, And then to kind of 412 00:19:54,599 --> 00:19:57,079 circle back to what I'm confident in, my other question 413 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,799 would be how much are they gonna let Dennis Shreuter 414 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240 be Dennis Shruter? And I don't I don't know the 415 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,839 answer to that question. That'll be the thing of watching 416 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,880 most closely. But even if it doesn't work out, I 417 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,839 think you've made yourself. I think they're a more attractive 418 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,079 trade partner now with it, because if you're a team 419 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,599 and one, you always want expiring contracts, So Dan fee 420 00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:19,319 Meltain would have been that, but now you have someone 421 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:21,920 who's actually playing, who's having a career year, and so 422 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,640 if you're just a team. Let's use Miami as an 423 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,680 example where if you're getting rid of Jimmy Butler, if 424 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,799 that ends up being a trade, not saying it will be, 425 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,880 They're not a team that's necessarily oh, we want to rebuild. 426 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,720 And so if you get someone in Dennis Shruter, who 427 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:37,279 when Tyler Hero and Terry Rozier there, how in should 428 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,799 would you be in keeping him Dennis Shruter though he's 429 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:42,400 playing and is someone that teams could be interested in 430 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:45,279 keeping moving forward, even if it's if he winds up 431 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:47,720 on the Blazers or the I mean, the Blazers could 432 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:50,519 actually use a reserve playmaker. I know they have Scoot 433 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,839 and Banton and Sharp, and Simon's is just not enough, 434 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,000 even if he ends up on the Wizards. Maybe it's 435 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,680 someone you say, hey, think about the Wizards kind of 436 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960 did with Jonnas Valentunis, even though I don't. You're not 437 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,359 gonna get a ton for him? Think about No, let's 438 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,319 do this, think about what the Pacers did with Bruce Brown. 439 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,680 If you can sign someone that you're not intent on keeping, 440 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,960 like to just use them as a trade asset and 441 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,480 flip them that way, even if it's more of a 442 00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:14,759 salary anchor. I think Denis Shuoter is he's He's certainly 443 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,559 in that tier of players. So there might be teams 444 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:18,880 that you want to trade for him, like you view 445 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,200 him as a net positive asset, not just because he's expiring, 446 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:23,279 because you want to keep him around for whatever reason. 447 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:26,440 Maybe again, even though you're selling to Golden State in 448 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,960 that deal, perhaps you're looking to still be better or 449 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,880 stay good right now, or be better for next season, 450 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,160 in which case Dennis Shruter is maybe someone who can 451 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,440 help you drive that wagon. And I think for Golden State, 452 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:41,599 I'm not Look, they have the salary filler we named, 453 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:43,799 we went through a bunch of the contracts before. They 454 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:47,680 can still make stuff happen without including Shrewd and maybe 455 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,160 getting him depending on how he pans out, that will 456 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,599 shape the scope of their future trade discussions. But I 457 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,039 think that what they've done here, Okay, yeah, if you're 458 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:58,680 not including Shooter, then you don't have those three seconds 459 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,400 to include. But when you're just looking from an ass like, 460 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,759 let's treat this strictly as an asset perspective, a trade 461 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:09,079 asset argument. Dennis Schreuder to me, is a better trade 462 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,160 asset this season than danfy Melton with a torn acl 463 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200 on an expiring contract and three second round picks, and 464 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,519 so you've now major team better. I mean, you're getting 465 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,119 someone who could play, but it's Dennis Shooter who should help. 466 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,359 I won't say he'll address all your biggest problems. He 467 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,759 will help address some of your biggest areas of concern 468 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:28,039 if he's able to keep up his current level of 469 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,359 performance or anything close to it, while then also increasing 470 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:33,920 your appeal on the trade market. I think this is 471 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,319 a very smart move by the Warriors. I'm still it's 472 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,599 not morbidly curious. I'm just fascinated to see how it 473 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:42,759 plays out offensively and what Dennis Shruder's role looks like 474 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:45,000 here and how well he winds up fitting in. But 475 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,599 I am encouraged that. I don't view this as and 476 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,440 there were reports that they kind of looked at frameworks 477 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,400 that included Cam Johnson hopefully couldn't get to it, so 478 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,440 they want to bust up the core. I think when 479 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,839 you're not getting a star and it's this early, I'm 480 00:22:57,839 --> 00:22:59,359 not going to take that to mean that Golden State 481 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,759 is trying to take a half measure. If this is 482 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:04,519 the only move they make this year, unless following this trade, 483 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,839 they are like the best or second best team in 484 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:10,279 the Western Conference. I would deem that unacceptable. I think 485 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,880 this show's actual aggression because they made the move so early, 486 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,920 and they put themselves in a position to still be 487 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,759 flexible with contracts to move in future trades, so there's 488 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:20,640 still a team to watch the Blockbuster. They would still 489 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,079 be a team to watch for Jimmy Butler. They're probably 490 00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:24,680 not a team to watch for Zach Lavine, even though 491 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,200 they're certainly I feel like this probably takes them out 492 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,640 of anyone who thought they might go the Anthony Simons 493 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,279 or Zach Lavine route. This does kind of I feel 494 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:33,640 like put that to bed in the sense of what 495 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,359 we'd rather just get Denis Shruter without giving up a first, 496 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,079 rather than bringing any of those two guys in or 497 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:41,640 someone like them, where we're giving up first and then 498 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 we already have Dennis Shruter on the roster, So maybe 499 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,559 it takes them out of those runnings that they were 500 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,839 probably never in to begin with. But this also could 501 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,400 increase the scope of what they're searching for on the 502 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,519 trade markets, where if Dennis Shruter is really stabilizing non 503 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:58,240 steph units and looks like a pretty good fit in 504 00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:01,319 the starting five, or very things panning out for you offensively. 505 00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:04,160 Does the priority become all right? We don't feel like 506 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,359 we need a traditional number two option. We want a 507 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 title like that just a couple of years ago. And 508 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:11,839 let's go after a big man, a complimentary big man. 509 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,680 Robert Williams. The third is still healthy. Let's go take 510 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,319 a look at look at him, and we think that's 511 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,319 someone who gives us like you know, you want them 512 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,200 to run more pick and rolls. There go someone who 513 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,279 can set screens, get to the rim, also make plays 514 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:23,920 out of the short role. Him and Denis Shruder would 515 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,200 be a good partnership. I Grant and I had talked 516 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,920 about this, and I'll probably ask Grant a little bit 517 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,680 more about the trade when we do our mailbag, because 518 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,000 you're gonna join our discord and flood us with questions 519 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,200 that we're gonna have to cut some of them. We're 520 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,759 gonna feel really bad, but we normally try to get 521 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,599 to all of them. Still, I think that the war 522 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,160 has already had more optionality than I expected, because I 523 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720 kind of had them doa for the seasons where I 524 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,079 thought they're gonna be super middling and we have evidence 525 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,599 that they're performative and not going to chase a big 526 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:55,599 fish or make the upgrades necessary. I'm still skeptical as 527 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,839 to how aggressive or how earnest, how committed they are 528 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,559 to making that big swing, but the fact that they 529 00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,720 made this type of a swing so early it bodes well. 530 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:06,880 And so this is a team that had a i think, 531 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,960 the flexibility to say, yes, you want them to get 532 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,160 a number two option, but maybe they are good enough 533 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,400 because of what their defense has done largely this year 534 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,240 and because of their depth, that you can go out 535 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:23,119 and address some of your needs with less than stars 536 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:27,039 and ride depth and ride players who might be just 537 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,519 get someone who's more dynamic on offense for you. And 538 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,400 that's what they've done, and they've increased their optionality even further. 539 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,160 I think because of what Dennis Shruder's value will continue 540 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,240 to be on the trademark if he plays well. Those 541 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,319 are my thoughts. Let me know how you're feeling about 542 00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:41,319 this trade. Let me know too, if you're thinking that 543 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,079 this might be a prelude to a very busy NBA 544 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,160 trade season. We normally don't get trades on before December fifteenth. 545 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,319 We have two trades reported but let alone on December 546 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:54,880 fifteenth exactly. So that's kind of cool, and maybe it 547 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,920 runs counter to the prevailing sentiment around the league that 548 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,000 as teams try to still figure out this first Apron 549 00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:06,079 second apron stuff and how limited and complex some of 550 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,039 these rules are, that it's going to really nuke the 551 00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:12,079 trade market for at least a foreseeable future. Does this 552 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,759 disprove that here's crossing our fingers, because look, I know 553 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,200 some people don't love transactions. That's a huge part of 554 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,559 what happens in the NBA. It's a huge part of 555 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:21,960 what gets reported and talked about, and when nothing ever 556 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,319 happens coming off of that, it gets a little boring. 557 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,319 So let's manifest that this is just a sign of 558 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,759 more emergency podcasts, hopefully not solo. This wasn't a one 559 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:34,039 that I'm gonna pull Grant Hues out very early morning 560 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:38,000 West Coast time on a Sunday to do. But until 561 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,039 next time, it as always please remember to subscribe to 562 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,559 us on YouTube and also on Apple and Spotify, and 563 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,680 if you can leave us ratings and reviews there, that'd 564 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,359 be great. Even if you don't use it, it does 565 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,119 help juice us up the charts. 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It does 577 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,880 mean a lot to me, so once again, and it 578 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,119 means a lot to Grant as well. I know that 579 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,200 for a fact. So thanks again for all your support. 580 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,000 Let me know in the comments what you think or 581 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:29,759 our discord go join it if you're listening with us 582 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:31,839 on audio, what you think of this Dantis shooter for 583 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,359 the Warriors trade. And finally, until next time, we get 584 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,599 a shot out to one you know only think Elmo, 585 00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,200 but legendary rank healer