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Speaker 1: This is Eleanor Langthorne from Vices Inc. And you're listening

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to Matt Connerton Unleashed on ninety five point three w

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Speaker 2: When I was a boy, Oh, I think God, now.

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Speaker 3: This one is big boy that I was. When I

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was a kid, I've got my face up and toilets

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with thesam.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't always a stool movement pup, but when I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, what's a jump?

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Speaker 2: I didn't always look can some I used to have

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them go.

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Speaker 5: Filled with us.

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Speaker 2: I remember rode up man times and picks them along.

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Speaker 5: It feels like someone that's humping their tack.

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Speaker 2: Fuck all of my farm.

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Speaker 6: Right, don your ness side go where no scene down?

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Speaker 2: Noboby roll up live? I rhy mess side go where

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no scene down?

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Speaker 5: The bomb me roll up live.

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Speaker 2: When I was in school, didn't make good grades.

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Speaker 3: I was, yes, still big numb fool. When I was

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still young, all I cared about proud was girls but

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stating and like my pmples.

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Speaker 5: I used to be such just a wool before day as.

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Speaker 4: Night, crying on the floor.

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Speaker 2: They used to wear a fans be me of my

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milk money taking. When I was growing up, I remember

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all the bad times and picking Emma long.

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Speaker 3: It feels like someone is shoving the time.

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Speaker 2: My moms of my heart.

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Speaker 5: I ride. Don't your nest side go?

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Speaker 3: When no sat down?

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Speaker 2: N you all alive? Right?

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Speaker 5: Don you maside go win?

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Speaker 2: No se Donna moby.

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Speaker 5: Roll up live.

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Speaker 3: You know when I was a boy, my father used

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to look down at me and say, what the hell

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is even?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 5: Go outside and cut some grass. Why don't you go

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kids a girl? You stupid loser? Why dons I call.

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Speaker 7: When no scene down? No bombie roll up line by?

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Speaker 2: Why dons I go way? No scene down, no bobby

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road up?

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Speaker 5: Life.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to w.

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Speaker 5: M and h N four.

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Speaker 3: The Commander, don't get Supremelda.

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Speaker 4: Maxwell coming, Welcome everybody, Here we go.

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Speaker 7: It is that time again. Matt Connorton unleashed and we

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are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five

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point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. If you

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are listening live on Saturday morning, today is May third,

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two thy twenty five and I am not alone.

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Speaker 6: Jod morning sunshine.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Jenny is here of course at the news table

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President on account of pH and very very nice day

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outside is eighty today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, windows open listening berties.

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Speaker 7: I noticed the sun came out after we arrived. So

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we have an exciting show for you today for a

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couple of reasons. One is, you know, we've got some

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great guests lined up. In just a few minutes, we're

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gonna be talking with our old friend Charles Richardson, host

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of The Charles Richardson Show, and haven't had Charles on

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in a long time, so that'll be a while. That'll

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be fun. And then in the second hour, we have

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the band Able Blood joining us. Able Blood we've had

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on several times. This might be their fourth time.

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Speaker 6: I think they're almost in the five timers club.

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Speaker 7: Almost, yeah, I think this. I think this is going

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to be their fourth time today. But such a great band,

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and we love featuring Abel Blood on the show. And

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then in the third hour today we have Etch in

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the Youngs and they're gonna be coming in and they're

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gonna play live for us in studio. We also have

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a couple of great studio tracks to feature from from

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Etch and the Youngs, but looking forward to that as

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well now. But circling back to as I mentioned, in

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just a couple of minutes, we're gonna be talking to

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our friend Charles Richardson. But we're making radio history today today,

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today is a significant moment in the history of Matt

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Connorton Unleash Why because this morning, your hat is straight,

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my hat is, Uh.

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Speaker 5: I don't I'm not worried.

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Speaker 7: About my happings straight right now. I just don't like

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when my hat's crooked in pictures. When my hat's crowing

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in pictures, it really bothers me. I like a nice, straight,

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perfectly centered hat. But no, we're making radio history on

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the program because for the first time, for the first

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time ever on Matt Connor Toon Unleashed, this we're going

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to be using WhatsApp to speak with a guest. Yes,

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and I'm glad it's someone we know, our friend Charles,

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because and I had known this. I knew this in

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the back of my mind, but I had I'd forgotten.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Skype is gone. There is no more Skype. We have

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traditionally used Skype on the program. Now there are other options,

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of course, for going all the way back to the

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always used Skype, you know, especially it's a It's been

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especially handy for guests who are on other continents who

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you know, it's going to cost them money to call

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us on the phone. So we've we've used Skype, but

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Skype has gone away. So but uh, everyone's using WhatsApp

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these days anyway. So we're going to attempt in just

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a moment. I am going to because you know, WhatsApp

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is really for your phone, but you can use it

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on a desktop computer. So I'm going to attempt in

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just a moment to call Charles. Because Charles is in Florida,

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he's not here with us in studio. Obviously, I'm going

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to attempt to call Charles via WhatsApp on this computer,

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the same computer on which we used to use Skype,

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and hopefully it works. We did test it, you and

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I tested it before the show and it seemed to

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work okay. But we will we will we will test it, yes,

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off air, but we will test this. We will test

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it with Charles.

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Speaker 6: It will either be gloriously great or.

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Speaker 7: It could it could be calamitous. And and if it is,

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if it is calamitous, that means that means we'll have

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out for the future. Right now, and of course, in

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that case too. Charles can always just call on his

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cell phone. But but it's good to have an option

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where people don't have.

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it won't cost him anything to just call on a

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cell phone. But but if we can talk to him

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on a computer, calls probably be bad quality. I'm sure

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there will be. I'm sure there will be, so I

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think we should just go ahead. Hopefully he's ready. I've

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got his full disclosure. I've not used WhatsApp on a desktop,

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so hopefully it works.

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is true when you did Now when we

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tested it, did you try it on the desktop or

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did you try it on your phone.

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Speaker 7: On the desktop? But I have to call Charles because

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what we could not figure out. And I'll look at

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it later and try to figure this out. But when

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you called me using WhatsApp, it showed up on my

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phone but not on the desktop, so I could not

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answer your call on WhatsApp on the desktop. I could

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only do it on my phone. But I'm calling Charles

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from the desktop as I called you from the desktop,

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and that worked, so that should work. Oh, by the way,

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I want to say too, hello to our friend Jay Bellow,

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of course, from the great band Chasing the Devil. We

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We were doing our grocery shopping and.

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Speaker 6: Happening more frequently that we run into people grocery shopping.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, it's fun. Yes, that is that that has

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Speaker 6: We saw him there tissues.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, oh that's right, because I knocked over a

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bunch of tissues because I I I'm a klutz and

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still think leads the world.

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Speaker 6: And what your nose leads the world?

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Speaker 7: My nose leads the world, well your world anyway, Well

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that's true. I use a lot of tissues because of

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my allergies. Yes, I had quite the sneezing fit just

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right before we went on the air, actually, but it

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was But it was wonderful to run into our friend Jay.

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And of course please check out Chasing the Devil. If

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you have not listened to Chasing the Devil, you must

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hear them. We always do a world radio premiere here

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on the program every time they have a new single,

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and so that was really nice to run into Jay.

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And I think right, So again, we're about to make

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radio history for the first time ever. I'm going to

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go ahead. I'm going to initiate the call via WhatsApp

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with our friend Charles Richardson, and hopefully this goes well.

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live on the air, So here we go.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we need a drum roll now.

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Speaker 7: And I, by the way, so I have two options.

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voice because we have no way of bringing the video

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of Charles into the show. So because it is a

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radio show after all, I mean, we are on the

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air of the mind. We are on video, and we

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stream to Facebook and YouTube and everything, but it is Yes,

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radio radio is theater of the mine first and foremost.

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So I'm going to click voice and let's oh wait, first,

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Speaker 6: You might on that computer, the mental telepathy will work

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Speaker 7: Yes, otherwise we won't hear anything, so oh you never know.

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Speaker 6: Well that's because it changed this morning.

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Speaker 7: I'm still using that computer. Yeah, we just realized this

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for Red October. Okay, let's see what happens. Oh oh,

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in my headphone, so I was, so. I assume it's

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Speaker 6: You are a moment early.

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Speaker 7: Oh it it works, Hello, Charles, can you can you

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hear us?

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Speaker 5: I can hear you. It didn't work on my lap

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on my computer. I wanted to use my studio microphone headphones,

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but it's like, not forget it ain't gonna work. That's

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Speaker 6: Interesting.

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Speaker 7: See that is interesting because we had the same I

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gotta figure out. I gotta figure that out because we

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have the same issue when when we tested it before

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the show, when Jenny called me, I could only answer

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it on my phone. I could not answer it on

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the computer. That's interesting. Okay, that's something we're going to

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have to figure out. Well, at least we got to

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talk and you sound great.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I appreciate you. You sound wonderful as well.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. Well, we strive for that here on the program. So,

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of course, Charles Richardson, host of The Charles Richardson Show,

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which has returned. Right, you're on what are you on now?

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Actually you might be changing your schedule, right, Yeah you

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heard huh.

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Speaker 5: So normally it was well, originally when we were starting

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to go on, it was Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I decided

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Friday night usually didn't work for us. Well, now I'm

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having the problem with Monday because Monday just kicks my patuity.

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I have to use that work, I guess.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, socc regulations. In fact, they prefer it that you

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use opportunity. It's the preferred Yes, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: So Monday was was was kicking it really good. And

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and and how interesting it's going on right now? This

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is great. So with all those two factors playing in,

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we're trying to think of another two nights that we

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can do this that won't affect our schedules. And with

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thinking the Tuesday and Thursday rendition of the Charles Richardson Show. Okay,

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has not been made official yet, and I will go

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on record and saying this is not an official announcement.

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Speaker 8: This is a preliminary announcement.

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Speaker 5: It will be ratified by a unanimous vote here in

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the household.

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Speaker 7: I see, are all votes unanimous? Or is it ever contentious?

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Speaker 5: Oh? We don't have any rules here.

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Speaker 7: I understand. I understand is.

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Speaker 5: Mine And even if, even if, even if the vote

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doesn't go my way and I even vote against my

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own stuff, I can rather fight and just make it approve.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, right, I see, Yes, I see.

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Speaker 6: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Charles? I feel like we had a problem with

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this microphone last night during Paul's show. Are you hearing me? Okay?

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Speaker 5: No? Yeah, you're fine. You're coming to it good, Okay.

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Speaker 7: I just I just had to turn the volume way

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up on this Mike, Jenny, are you hearing me?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Not when you turn your head.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds a little. It sounds a little funny,

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doesn't it get rid of the well, I don't think

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I don't think that's the Uh well, that might help

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a little bit. It helps a little bit, yeah, getting

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rid of the filter. But yeah, we we we've been

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having a problem with this microphone and and Peter was

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in early this morning to fix it. But I think

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it's still uh, it's still causing an issue.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Peter, get with it here. Let's go ahead

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and update that mic.

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Speaker 7: Well the dough Yeah, well it's not it's not the mic.

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It's it's the processor apparently. But uh no, he came in,

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he came in early this morning to make sure that

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it was that it was working. But it's it's been

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a little bit. Uh, it's been a little bit funky.

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I might I'm gonna switch to a different mic. Actually,

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why don't why don't you guys can Jenny, why don't

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you and Charles talk for a couple of minutes. I'm

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just gonna switch this really really quickly. I know that Charles,

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you wanted to talk a bit about mental health this morning, right, Well,

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it was one of.

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Speaker 5: The subjects that I would uh, I wouldn't mind talking

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about because I deal with it on a daily basis.

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I mean, it's yeah, it's really it's it's really tough

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to the point where Number one and I don't want

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to get too personal, but the home life isn't exactly

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peaches and cream. Uh, it's it's not as vanilla as

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people would think. Oh, they must love to be so beautifully. No,

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it's not. And it's not just you know me, me

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and the the significant other, my wife. It's uh, it's

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our son who's grown up and is getting more and

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more edgy, more and more obnoxious, really, if you want

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to be honest, So it is tough as a parent

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number one to deal with the with the kid already

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with ADHD and some uh uh and and some behaviors.

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I feel, what was this odd? Or OHDC or something

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like that occ you know me, But it's like a defiance.

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It's defiance is what is uh the diagnosis that he's got.

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And he's defiant to mom but to me, Oh, he

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doesn't dare cross me. I don't know if it's just

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because of my nature, if I'm speaking too deep, I

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speak too deep, he may listen to me more like

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Darth Vader or something like that. I mean, but when

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you're in the household like that, where there is constant arguing.

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And I'm not talking about domestic issues like you know,

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if I'm yelling at the wife or my wife's yelling

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at me. Now, this is just trying to control the situation.

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And it does get out of handle a lot of times.

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And I honestly, I have no room to run. I

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have to get out of the house. I have to

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get out breathed and take a back because I would

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go nuts, I would hurt people, and I'd probably end

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up in jail if I stayed in the house. It's

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just it comes really bad.

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Speaker 7: That does sound very challenging. I'm a I'm on a

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different mic now and it sounds a lot better in

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my headphones. Yeah, yeah, much much better. Yeah, that that

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does sound challenging, Charles. You know, as as I think.

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You know, I don't have any children. Jenny and I

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have two cats, and that's as close to actual fatherhood

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as I've ever wanted to get. Well, there is there is,

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of course, DJ Rackless, who I suppose, I suppose that

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there are some paternal feeling there, but uh, but you know,

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but he's all grown up now too, so.

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Speaker 5: But that's the thing. When they're growing up and out

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of the house, or even if they're in the house

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and growing up, it's like, listen, we don't have to

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stay here. You can leave and hopefully hopefully they'll be

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he'll be obliged to leave if that's the case. Not

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I did. I'm not to say that this is always

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that way. There is times where it's great. There's times

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when we have a lot of fun and we there's

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good times there. But it's just the point of saying

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no to him, which I'm sorry, we're we're gonna say no.

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Speaker 8: There's nothing to it.

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Speaker 5: If there's something that he did not deserve, did not earn,

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or or something that it's too late it's time for bed. No,

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he's gonna throw a fa he's gonna throw a temper tantrum,

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start kicking things and occasionally throwing things. Although that's that's

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become less of a headache, but it's it's still it's

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still challenging to deal with. Listen, dude, it's bedtime. You know,

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it's bedtime. It's been bedtime for like this for seven years.

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Get used to it's done, go to bed. But no,

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but he's he's doing he's doing this, uh that seven

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year tantrum that if it's bedtime. Oh oh, we're not

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doing this. And you know, I don't know how my

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parents did it when I was growing up. Maybe because

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I was just a good child. I was. I was

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a sweet little angel.

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Speaker 7: Well that's the thing, you know, I was. I was

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a perfect angel as well growing up.

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Speaker 5: And uh yeah here Jenny laugh.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I've heard stories he was actually the good kid

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I was.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 7: I was a good kider.

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Speaker 6: Like hearing his mom says something that he did that

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was wrong was like in my world. Really, that's it.

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That's just that's that's it.

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Speaker 7: Huh.

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Speaker 6: You might have said I don't like you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, My my word is if our son says I

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hate this day or I don't like you or something

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like that, Oh it's time out. Can you imagine what

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I would I would have to deal with if I

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told my mother I don't like you, go away leave

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me alone?

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: No, No, it would not be tolerated, and my bottom

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would hurt for a while, maybe even other parts of

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my body. But you know what, nothing was ever like. Oh, well,

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it's illegal to spank your children and it's illegal to

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talk bad to your children. But I'm so over this.

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I mean, yes, I get abusing kids is one thing,

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but discipline is another. I'm fully behind the corporal punishment

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for discipline.

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Speaker 7: I've always and again, I'm not a parent, so I

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always feel a little weird about not having an opinion.

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That's not the right way to put it. But but

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I you know, I don't, I don't, uh, I don't

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make too many judgments about it. I think generally, I

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think it's probably something to avoid actual corporal punishment, because

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I think that, you know, some child psychologists and sociologists

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would argue that you kind of teach you run the

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risk of teaching your child that that the way to

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resolve conflict is through some form of violence. Having said that,

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I also do understand. I've heard parents explain and I

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have my own term for it. I call it the

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hot stove argument, where if your child is repeatedly trying

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to touch a hot stove and you have to tell

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them repeatedly to not do that, and you're not doing

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that to punish them or anything, you know, You're just

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you're doing that because you don't want them to harm themselves,

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because it's going to potentially burn them if they touch

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that hot stove. And they keep trying to do it,

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and so the only way to finally get them to

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stop is maybe a little pat on the bottom or

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a slap on the hand or whatever it is. I

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get that, and that is for their own goods. So

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I think it's my from my perspective again as a

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non parent, so I'm kind of talking out of my

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backside a little bit, but I think it's probably something

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to avoid. But I also I do understand a situation

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may arise where that's your best option because you're trying

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to keep them safe, and maybe that's the only way

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you can you can do it.

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Speaker 8: It's not the only way to us. We go through

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different steps.

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Speaker 5: I mean, my my wife is an ABA therapy, so

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she has all the knowledge in the world. We're dealing

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with kids that have autism and stuff like that with

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the same with the same respect as what my son

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is dealing with. Even though he's not on that spectrum yet,

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he's very close. He was tested, he was tested early,

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so we're probably thinking the test him again. It's been recommended.

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But she has all these techniques. We have, you know,

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rewards charts, we have this and that. But yet to

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your point where we're explaining ourselves over and over again,

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and we're trying to explain Listen, you know it's this

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is not a punishment, this is just time. This is

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it's not in the cards today. Uh. And he goes

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off the chain like that.

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Speaker 8: And and this is not just him saying I don't

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like this. This is him screaming.

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Speaker 5: This is him yelling, throwing, kicking stuff, kicking a dog sometimes.

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I mean, that's that's extreme. But you know our dogs

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are small. I mean they can get her easily. Sure,

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it's a lot of big behavior issues from a little

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kid who's not even like fifty inches tall yet at

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nine years old. So he's a little guy. And I

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know he's probably had some issues with that too. He

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doesn't like being the little guy, and I understand that.

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But I also told him, listen, when you get into football,

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nobody's gonna touch you. You're so fast, you just go ahead,

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just go around them that they're not gonna be able

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to mess with you. You're so tiny, you just go

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underneath their legs. Yeah, it's it's it's cool. So it's

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but when when I say corporle punchs, but I'm not

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talking about taking them out to the back and hanging

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him or anything like that. That's not what I'm talking

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about talking about.

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Speaker 6: That would be murdered.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and well some people can take that to another

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degree that that's saying I'm not talking about that. I'm

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not even talking about taking a spatchelor or wooden spoon

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and spanking. I'm not talking about that is a tap

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to the butt. It just you need to stop. Yeah, Okay,

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we tried the talking, we tried the time out. They

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ain't working.

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Speaker 8: You will get a spanking.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sorry for people and parents that feel that way.

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But when it comes to difficult times, come to difficult decisions,

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and that's a difficult decision. My wife doesn't agree with that,

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and and really bless her. I respect her opinion on that. Yeah,

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I respect her opinion on not spanking, but there's times

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that she's had to because all else has failed.

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Speaker 7: Has has I gotten better as he's gotten older, or

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or has it gotten worse or what's what's kind of

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the situation there? You said he's nine years old, now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so when we got the one, he was two.

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She already had some some issues with the people that

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he was staying with. We're trying to get that out,

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but it's been you know, the memories on him. Are

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you sput this way when when when we first got him,

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I was putting on my belt to go to work

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on my jeans. Dad, you don't hit me?

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Speaker 8: Oh, so we know it was abuse going on, Yeah,

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you know, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Like, no, I'll never do that. No, No, I gotten

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00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,880
hit with the belt before too. It's like, we're not

475
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,839
doing this. There's other ways to handle this. I'm not

476
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,240
doing this. And it's never come to that. It's never

477
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,000
come to the wooden spoon or anything like that. So

478
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:22,640
that's that's at least a good thing. Yeah, But from

479
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:26,160
the time we got into now it's actually it's gotten

480
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,279
a little bit worse because he just has that much

481
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:34,119
energy in him to the point where he can't tone down,

482
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,039
he can't down shift. It's it's, uh, how Jacob Fatu

483
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:45,599
put it now, all gas, no brakes, that's him, that's him. Wow.

484
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 7: No, that's that's challenging. Yeah, that is that is very challenging.

485
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,880
Are you and Alyssa generally on the same page in

486
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,319
terms of how to deal with him? I mean, I

487
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,839
know that with the spanking you've got some disagreement there,

488
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,359
but what what about? What about? More just more broadly,

489
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,440
are you or do you? Have to have a lot

490
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,119
of discussions about how do we handle this?

491
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 5: A lot of its discussions because I don't understand. See,

492
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,519
my way of being brought up was you do not

493
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,279
disrespect your parents one bit, and if you do, there

494
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,720
is consequences, and some of those consequences can be severe.

495
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

496
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 5: Now with that being said, I understand that this is

497
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,519
a new day and age where we have to be

498
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:33,759
we have to adjust to not offend anybody and stuff

499
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:38,519
like that. So so the discussion is I'm grateful to

500
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,799
have a wife that is actually in the field that

501
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,519
she's in, so we do have discussions. She's trying to

502
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:45,920
explain to me why this is going on and that's

503
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160
going on. So in a way, I'm actually being taught

504
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,680
by my wife in regards to this type of behavior management. Well,

505
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200
also the fact my wife does deal with this eight

506
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,319
hours a day and she comes home and she has

507
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:04,599
to do it again. She's already exhausted. So sometimes it

508
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,519
doesn't get followed that much. So the argument doesn't comes.

509
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:10,319
And I wouldn't say argument, I would just say, listen,

510
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,319
you want me to follow the plan? How about you

511
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,599
follow it too, because right now you're telling me to

512
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,799
do one thing and do to do another thing. And

513
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,039
I understand you're frustrated.

514
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,119
Speaker 8: We're all frustrated.

515
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: And I understand you're tired and you just have a

516
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,359
long day and you don't want to deal with it anymore.

517
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,519
But this is our job, right, this is our unpaid job.

518
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,079
We need to go ahead and do this. Yeah, and

519
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:36,799
you're talking about me being on the same page, which

520
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,519
she constantly says, I'm not talking about me being on

521
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:41,359
the same page. You gotta be on the same page too.

522
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,680
It is a constant struggle, man, It's a constant struggle.

523
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,319
And yes, there's times I'm stepping in my car and

524
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,200
I'm thinking I can't do this because if I do,

525
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440
I'm gonna do something that's way wrong. I need to go.

526
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,960
I need to have a drink. And I'm not talking

527
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,119
about club soda.

528
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,079
Speaker 7: I'm talking about Yeah.

529
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: So it's a struggle though.

530
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I've seen you know obviously over the years,

531
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:13,319
I've seen some videos that you've posted where you've talked about, uh,

532
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,720
you know how how challenging it all is. And uh no,

533
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920
I feel for you, man, Like I said, as someone

534
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,359
who's not not a parent. I can only imagine how

535
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,680
challenging that is. And you know, it's one of the reasons.

536
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,440
There's a there's a number of different reasons why I

537
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:29,839
was never interested in having children of my own, and

538
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:31,759
and one of them is how do you deal with

539
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,680
challenges like that?

540
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,319
Speaker 5: You know?

541
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,559
Speaker 7: Another one is I don't know how anybody affords it.

542
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:39,759
There's all kinds of reasons why I am happily childless.

543
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:43,680
But uh, but but no, so I feel for you.

544
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we've wanted to have kids, and I've come

545
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,480
to question my own insanity over the years, like why

546
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,359
did I want this? But I also understand that, listen,

547
00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,200
he does have something developmental issues, he does have some

548
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,440
behavioral issues, And you know, that's kind of the thing nowadays,

549
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,839
like isn't it like now that we're more aware of

550
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,160
these mental challenges, that we're starting to see it and

551
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,880
starting to The one thing I don't get is pilling

552
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:16,680
up my kid.

553
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,079
Speaker 8: Do you realize he's already on six medications.

554
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,039
Speaker 5: He's on the same type of medications, not the same type,

555
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,000
the same number of medications that I am on. And

556
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,839
I have diabetes in the high blood pressure. Yeah, and

557
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,359
I'm on those. I combined the two and basically that

558
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,359
the same the same number of medications is what my

559
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,279
mom used to take.

560
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 8: And that scares the frightened crop.

561
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:41,839
Speaker 5: Out of me.

562
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 7: Really does has has he always? Has? He always been

563
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,279
on that many or is that more of a recent development.

564
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,759
Speaker 5: So he started off on the one where he takes

565
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,680
in the morning and that usually got him through the day.

566
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,680
And this is going through the testing experimental five year old,

567
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,720
six year old stage when he's just started school. Then

568
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:07,000
they said, no, maybe he needs a midday bumper, you know,

569
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,759
so they give him another one there for the midday.

570
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Then we find out he's not going to sleep, so

571
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,960
they have a quantity that's on there and we take

572
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,160
that with melatonin and it kind of, you know, it

573
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200
kind of mellows him out, but not really. He's becoming

574
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,519
immune to it. And there's a couple of other ones

575
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,519
there that I don't really understand. My wife would understand

576
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:31,640
more than that. But it's all been by doctors that

577
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:34,839
have seen him, that know his diagnosis, that knows what

578
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,839
he's going through. And we're telling him that this is working,

579
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,640
this is not working. Stuff like that, I mean, and

580
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:44,759
don't get me wrong. He's not like this twenty four seven.

581
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:48,480
Like right now, he's in his room. He's doing quiet time,

582
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:50,960
which is part of his routine. That's one thing with

583
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640
kids with ADHD is we have to have a routine

584
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:57,000
and make sure he sticks with it. Yeah, so he

585
00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,160
had breakfast right before we got on the show, and

586
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,079
once he's done with his breakfast, he goes in this room.

587
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:05,599
Speaker 8: Now, you can have TV on some type of mild thing.

588
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,200
That's the other thing.

589
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,799
Speaker 5: We got to make sure what he wants watches is

590
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,839
something crazy. I mean, he's already addicted to miles around

591
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,119
Spider Man for definite reasons, but he is addicted to

592
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,720
Spider Man. Loves spider I think he's been Spider Man

593
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,119
three times during Halloween and I'm seven years so almost

594
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,440
half the time he's Spider Man. Wow. So I'm trying

595
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,279
to find out who is Was there any big guy

596
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,720
in the Marvel universe that actually? I mean, I guess

597
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,519
I could be the Hulk. You know my body. I mean,

598
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,960
I'd be the out of shape Hulk. Beat him. Uh.

599
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,240
We're turning into a Marvel family really, And of course

600
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,559
we're Disney fans, so that kind of goes along with it.

601
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:54,519
Speaker 8: But what was I talking about?

602
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: Medication? Yeah, I'm going all over the place. Man, I'm sorry.

603
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:01,599
Speaker 7: That's quite all right, that's quite all right. We haven't

604
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:03,319
talked for a while, so this is uh, this is good.

605
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,119
You're allowed to go all over the place. But so

606
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,960
I'm curious, So what what do you do? And by

607
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,519
the way, so other people who might be in a

608
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,719
situation similar to you, who have kids that are challenging,

609
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,199
might be really interested in this too. What do you

610
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239
do for you You know, we talked about you know

611
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,159
his you know, the different meds and everything, and how

612
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,400
you try to manage him. But but what what do

613
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,719
you do for yourself to give yourself some relief, to

614
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,360
make yourself feel better, to cope with it all? What

615
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,119
are some I mean, do you have some I assume

616
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,800
over the years you've developed and probably ALYSSA too, You've

617
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,559
you've probably both developed some some coping mechanisms to to

618
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,599
kind of help you with this, uh, this challenge of

619
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,760
raising your child. So I'm curious about some of that.

620
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of it is trying to take yourself

621
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,079
out of the situation. So obviously, did come to a

622
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,719
point where you have to deal with the situation, so

623
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920
that you know that that's understandable, that we all know

624
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:59,840
that the dealing of the situation. But once you've dealt

625
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,880
with a situation and it is still ongoing, like when

626
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,440
we put him in time out, we put him in

627
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:11,960
time out into an area where there's doors, there's class closets,

628
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,480
wooden closets, and we hear him against the door. I

629
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,719
want out, I want out, I want out. Like honestly,

630
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,679
if people, if we lived in an apartment complex, we'd

631
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,400
have the cops called twenty four to seven because he

632
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:27,079
wants out. They go, oh my god, he wants out.

633
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:28,039
He's being trappist.

634
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 8: He's not being trapped.

635
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,119
Speaker 5: He's in time out, right, So a lot of times,

636
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,360
you know, the best way is to ignore the situation

637
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,760
because he's trying to get attention. Yeah, and that comes

638
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,719
into other factors too, with going to bed, and again

639
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,719
this brings me back to the point, I don't understand

640
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,519
how my parents did it. Because we actually have a

641
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:53,199
camera in his room so we can monitor what he's doing. Uh,

642
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,599
we're obsessed with the camera, unfortunately, I mean, but that's uh,

643
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:58,719
but that's the way we can kind of see what

644
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,079
he's doing. And he too, on his blanket, he choos

645
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,079
on his pillow case. He goes in and picks his

646
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:05,559
hair and twists his hair. If you took a look

647
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:06,119
a close.

648
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,679
Speaker 8: Look at him, maybe even a far close, a far.

649
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,639
Speaker 5: Look at him, you see that there's like areas of

650
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,800
spots of hair that are missing because he keeps picking

651
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,719
his hair. He cracks him out, He cracks his knuckles,

652
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,400
choose his fingernails. And I know it's an anxiety thing.

653
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,400
You know that I've confirmed with my wife, like yeah, this,

654
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:27,440
this is this is an anxiety thing. So he's just

655
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:32,039
doing it because he's nervous or anxious or just you know,

656
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,159
he doesn't want to be in that situation or he's not,

657
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,679
but he does not. And this is the problem though,

658
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,280
which right to break him out of him? He does

659
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,639
not tell us what's going on, what's wrong, nothing, what's

660
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,280
w and the problem And I think the thing is

661
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,159
too when I get frustrated, I don't want to talk

662
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:50,199
about it, I do the same thing. So I think

663
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,840
I'm fearful that he's actually taken that from me, and

664
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:56,880
that that that stinks, and I'm sorry that I brought

665
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,880
that upon him. But that's my ment. That's my mental

666
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:01,760
languish too, is I just don't want to talk about

667
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,280
because if I talk about, it's going to be any

668
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:03,800
more mad.

669
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 8: And I don't want to yell my wife. I don't

670
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,400
want to yell and scream and.

671
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,199
Speaker 5: Go into it.

672
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,079
Speaker 8: It's like, I know what the problem is. There's nothing

673
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:11,440
you can do.

674
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: I know.

675
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,119
Speaker 5: And my wife, I love her so much, she is

676
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,719
so nice and understanding. She wants to help in any

677
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,159
way possible. I just tell her the truth is this point,

678
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,480
this problem problem X. So whatever the problem is at

679
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:27,079
that time.

680
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 8: There's nothing you can do to help me.

681
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 5: There's nothing you can do. And I appreciate your help,

682
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,880
but there's nothing. And of course she feels emotional with

683
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,719
that because she feels helpless, and it's like, I'm sorry,

684
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,880
there's nothing you didn't do anything wrong. This is something

685
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,519
I have to deal with. And unfortunately, I think that's

686
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,519
what my son picks it up from. But when we

687
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:48,239
go ahead and put him in time out, and we

688
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,760
tried to go ahead and calm him down when he

689
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,920
is told no, or he's told something he doesn't like,

690
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:58,360
let's put it that way. Just over all that we

691
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:01,000
need to go ahead, he's he's going to explode. He's

692
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:02,639
gonna blow up, and he's going to go ahead and

693
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,000
say things and do things, and that obviously isn't what

694
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,920
we are teaching him. We don't want him to do that. Yeah,

695
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,440
So when he goes into his timeout area, he starts

696
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:19,719
banging on the walls and screaming. We immediately either we

697
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,559
leave this, leave the area. We still have a camera

698
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,280
in the living room too, so we can see so

699
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,360
that way we know he's not harming himself, but we

700
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480
leave the area just so he knows that.

701
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 8: Hey, nobody's listening to me.

702
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,519
Speaker 5: And usually that works because usually it's all for attention.

703
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 7: Right, and that makes sense.

704
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, that works. Now we feel like, well, we should

705
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,320
be out there attending to him, but we we're kind

706
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,159
of We kind of are because we do have a

707
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,000
camera that's in the living room that does watch over

708
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,320
the whole house plus his timeout area, so we see

709
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,360
what he's doing and if if there is anything that

710
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,679
is harmful to him. We're not too far away. We

711
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,039
don't in a big house. We're not too far away.

712
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:04,440
So we'll go out there and take care of the

713
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,639
situation if it warn't that. But it doesn't, it hasn't,

714
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,960
thank god. It hasn't gotten to that far yet.

715
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jenny had something.

716
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 6: I'm assuming that he probably has a diagnosis of CPTSD

717
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,880
as well with the abuse.

718
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 5: Oh he doesn't. I don't know if you just have

719
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,360
never been tested for it, but maybe that's something that

720
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,599
we could test him on. But no, he's never been

721
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:29,079
tested for that.

722
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 6: I feel for him a great deal and something I

723
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,599
don't talk about very often as I was raised in

724
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,559
significant abuse and I have CPTSD and it actually causes

725
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:45,639
kiddos to live in fight flight fear every moment of

726
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,480
every day. And it's literally a brain injury that causes

727
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:53,639
the brain to develop differently than it would in a

728
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,840
child who hasn't been abused. So I can only imagine

729
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,039
when he's pent up like that, when he's when that's

730
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,679
coming out all that, where it's coming from. And how

731
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,760
I commend you in that this is a very difficult

732
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,880
thing to try and overcome. And thankfully he's at a

733
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,559
young age that you're doing this. And yes, of course

734
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:19,239
I know he has a therapist. I know you guys

735
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,679
do all of that, And how hard that is as

736
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,119
a parent to look at a child and realize, you know,

737
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,400
this is coming from an honest and genuine place. He

738
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,960
didn't ask for what happened, But now he's stuck in

739
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:36,920
that fight flight fear to try and help him overcome that.

740
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:40,480
I mean, I know it's years. I know that you

741
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:43,119
guys have. It's been a long trip to get to

742
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,440
this point, and it's amazing what you've been able to

743
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,119
accomplish with him and to be able to help him

744
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,519
through those difficult times when you know that switch is

745
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:58,079
not shutting off, it's it's just it's stuck and he

746
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,559
has nowhere to put that energy or or where to

747
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:04,000
where to go with it, and it's just it's it's

748
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,760
coming out and in the ways that it is that

749
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,920
are unfortunately sometimes destructive, but you're able to help minimize

750
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,480
and keep him safe at the same time.

751
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 5: The one the one thing that we always do and

752
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,840
and thank you, Jenny, but the one thing that we

753
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,320
we always try to do, regardless of the situations. We're

754
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,599
always there to say, listen, we're here to help. We

755
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,360
want you to listen. We are ready to listen to

756
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,119
you when you need something, you need help, you tell us.

757
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:35,559
Speaker 8: What's going on.

758
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,599
Speaker 5: It's even come to the point now where we're kind

759
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:41,639
of putting we're kind of putting our foot down when

760
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,920
he is visible, visibly upset, crossing his arms, grunting man,

761
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,599
and we're telling what's wrong, nothing, No, we're we We

762
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,920
used to take that and it's like, well, listen, we're

763
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,719
here to talk if you want to talk, but he

764
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,039
never did. So now it's to the point where, no,

765
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,320
you're going to tell us what's wrong because we need

766
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,000
to know what's wrong so we can help you. You

767
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:14,199
need help, even though you want to be strong and stubborn,

768
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:18,599
but you need help. Daddy needs help, mommy needs help.

769
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:22,280
We all need help. So there's no shame in asking

770
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:30,559
for help, right, Yes, such one. I appreciate that, thank you,

771
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,199
but sometimes that doesn't work. More often than it has,

772
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,920
he has started to come around to understand that I

773
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:45,639
don't know or nothing is not an appropriate answer anymore,

774
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:49,360
because you do know, you do know, and you you

775
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,559
need to tell us what you're feeling. And he needs

776
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,440
to learn how to express his feelings, and we're trying

777
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,000
to teach him that it's okay to have feelings. Dude,

778
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:02,320
I underst saying you're in school and you got peer pressure,

779
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,159
and you got people that just act like animals. We know,

780
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,360
we've heard, we've talked to teachers and you and you

781
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:14,199
have this just this instinct on well, if they're doing

782
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,679
it and they're getting all this attention, I'm gonna do it.

783
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:19,519
He's taking it. But it's also that.

784
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 6: Front, right, it's also that front right where he's that's

785
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,960
his defense mechanism fight fight. Fear is kicking in, and

786
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,800
that defense mechanism comes up and goes, oh, I'm gonna

787
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,679
shield myself. Nobody's gonna hurt me because I'm not letting

788
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,519
him get close enough.

789
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:34,599
Speaker 5: You know.

790
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 6: It's you know, he doesn't know that he's doing that,

791
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,079
but that's his own mind's way of trying to self protect,

792
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440
to try and anticipate that something might hurt me, so

793
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,559
this might go wrong, and you're trying to help him

794
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:51,800
overcome what has become a natural reaction for him, for

795
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,840
his mind or his body, because that's safety, that's protect

796
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,519
self protection.

797
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 5: Right.

798
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 6: It's not the way you want him to go, but

799
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:00,639
you're trying to teach him. And that's why I have

800
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,280
a lot of hope for him, and that he is young,

801
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,719
and you guys have been able to You're been working

802
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,840
these many years, and he has so many more years

803
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,320
to come with having two parents that are really putting

804
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,119
in the work and willing to have that difficult conversation. Right,

805
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,800
That's the hardest thing is to say it's okay to

806
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,719
say you don't feel okay, It's okay to tell me

807
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,280
something's not right, it's okay to tell me a negative thing.

808
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,719
And that's like such a huge thing to give them

809
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,400
permission to share that most vulnerable thing, that that thing

810
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,800
that's making them terrified. Essentially, like, I don't want you

811
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,840
to know this because I believe you're gonna get angry

812
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,920
with me, but you're not. You're you're trying to tell him. Nah, dude,

813
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,440
you can tell me anything, and I'm going to be

814
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,239
right here to hear it. I'm not gonna get mad

815
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,199
at you. I'm gonna help you deal with it. But

816
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,119
that that isn't that the lesson you're working on right

817
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,159
now as he matures to learn that it's okay and

818
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,159
it's safe to come to mom and dad say this

819
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,760
is bothering me, you know right, you know.

820
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,639
Speaker 5: We're here behind closed doors. You don't have to be

821
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000
tough to in front of your friends. Because there was

822
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,960
even he had a test, a big test to graduate

823
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:16,599
third grade.

824
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,599
Speaker 8: Yes, he's a year behind, but that was a choice that.

825
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 5: We made because he wasn't grasping everything was so far behind.

826
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:28,320
But he had a big test to graduate third grade,

827
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,360
and he was I saw Hughes asly nervous. Mom already

828
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,639
had to talk with him while I was getting ready

829
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:36,079
for work. I didn't know that, so I had to

830
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:37,599
talk with him in the car as I was dropping

831
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:40,800
him off to school that I could hear a say, yeah, Mom,

832
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,599
he already told me. He said, all right, well, listen,

833
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,280
anything that's happened around your kid, around school, ignore these

834
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,920
people that are trying to make jokes. Don't focus on

835
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,480
anything but that you answered the question. Don't guess because

836
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:55,679
he has a tendency just to guess and everything.

837
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

838
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: So, but I knew he was nervous, and you know,

839
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,119
he was influenced later that day to say that be

840
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,400
calling somebody the B word, which we don't use in

841
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,840
the house. And uh, it's.

842
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 6: That these kids are exposed to. It's way different than

843
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,039
what we were kids.

844
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: Way yeah, yeah, it's it's it's we're trying to teach

845
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:28,440
him that it's it's okay. And by the way, Mike Gonzalez.

846
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 8: Thank you very much for them for that.

847
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: Uh for acknowledging me with that. Oh yeah, Isaac, Isaac,

848
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,800
wait till after my segment to do some promotion.

849
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 7: We should we should read Uh we haven't heard from

850
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,599
Gonzo in a long time. By the way, I want

851
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,920
to read this comment our our friend dot Gonzo. He says,

852
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,039
courageous topic matter. I appreciate your transparency, Charles, because nobody

853
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,159
has the guts to talk about being a father in

854
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,639
the struggles. It comes with the fear of judgment. But

855
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,400
it's good to hear.

856
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, said miss YouTube absolutely well said I'm a

857
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,320
daddy's girl. I always raised by my dad.

858
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 5: But I'll be honest with you, it's not a fear

859
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:11,880
of judgment or what the public would view me. As

860
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,800
you but you both know this, I really could care

861
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,280
less of any outside criticism. If I'm not breaking the law,

862
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,639
then I don't think you should have to criticize me

863
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,400
or anything like that.

864
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 8: I mean, if you want to judgement judgment, that's fine.

865
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 5: You can take your judgment and bring it to your

866
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,519
own court, because that's all it's going to get any

867
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:38,239
any validation to me, it's not going to have any

868
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,920
effect on my life. You know, I feel what I'm

869
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,960
doing is right. I feel what I'm doing is improvement.

870
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,920
And you know, I'm not perfect, and neither is any

871
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:51,519
parent out there. Every parent thinks that there's a rule

872
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,920
book that you can just go to on any normal situations,

873
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,800
saying acting crazy because he's told no, we need to

874
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:04,000
if ABC and the Okay, Hi, honey, go ahead and

875
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,039
get the juice. No, it's it's there's no rule book

876
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,440
into this. Nobody's perfect. And I'm gonna say the same thing.

877
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,960
As egotistical as I am, I'm not perfect, and I'm

878
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:20,039
trying to learn everything I can to try to be better,

879
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,440
not only for my son, but for myself as well.

880
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Tried to learn to take more because honestly, I don't

881
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,320
want to be this dad that just goes away for

882
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,840
ice cream and never comes back. Yeah, and I'm afraid

883
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,599
that one of these days that I go out for

884
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,559
a drink, I may never come back. And that's my fear.

885
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,559
But I don't want to do that. I don't want

886
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,000
to do that, and I want to have a way

887
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,400
of you know what, maybe I don't go out, but

888
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:50,039
there's a way that I can call myself to make

889
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,559
and do a better decision than just leaving it up

890
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:55,039
to mom.

891
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, well, you know again as as someone who

892
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,760
does not have children, I I uh, you know, I

893
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,320
feel for you and I respect how you're you're able to.

894
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,199
Speaker 5: Uh, we can spy him up that you guys can

895
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,840
watch him over the summer if you while. I mean,

896
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,440
that's fine, that's.

897
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: You know, that's okay.

898
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 7: I think he'd probably uh you know, well actually he

899
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,280
might like New Hampshire in the summer. But no, that's okay.

900
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,360
We don't think my.

901
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 6: Intro back into kiddos is going to be a smaller

902
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,960
sized one eventually, not not not yet, but maybe a

903
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:29,000
nana in my future.

904
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:31,159
Speaker 5: I remember, he's a little bit he's a little bit

905
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:33,800
bigger than your cat. I mean not that much bigger.

906
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,760
So maybe he came like a cat.

907
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 7: He could probably bunk with DJ Reckless, right, you know,

908
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,280
there we go. I remember years ago, we were we

909
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,320
were gonna have easy g move in with us and

910
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,360
bunk with Reckless. Yeah, they were gonna have bunk beds.

911
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,519
It was gonna be a lot of fun. But it

912
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:58,679
never never never happened. Yeah yeah, well, you know, sometimes uh,

913
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,679
sometimes he's don't work out by the way, Charles. So

914
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,639
we only have a little bit of time left before

915
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,199
we get to the top of the hour. But how

916
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,880
are you How are you enjoying Raw on Netflix?

917
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 5: Well, when it actually works, it's fine. I'm loving the

918
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,039
I'm loving the buffering and the delays that issue.

919
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:21,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, you've had trouble with the Well maybe it's your

920
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:22,400
service left.

921
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:27,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, we left though. Even though I have a gig

922
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:31,800
gig bit processor, I still have problems getting Netflix. Oh

923
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,920
no kidding, it could be. It could be the road Coop.

924
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,280
I'll be honest. We don't have the high tech rod

925
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,519
coup or Apple TV or anything like that.

926
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:42,639
Speaker 6: Maybe that's what it is our internet, So now we're

927
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:43,480
not having any.

928
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,079
Speaker 5: Leg there you go. But no, I do. I am

929
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:50,119
liking Raw. I mean, I understand this. It's gonna get Curtis.

930
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,360
All the haters are gonna hate no matter what. But

931
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:54,960
I actually do enjoy the storyline. I'm very sad to

932
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000
see brone strum and leave again. I know there was

933
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,360
no storyline there, but I always like when he comes

934
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,719
into the ring and kicks people's you know, bottoms and

935
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,960
son like I feel such like at let go.

936
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just happened last night. A whole bunch of

937
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,719
NXT people are gone, Oh my god. It happens every

938
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,239
year after WrestleMania. They go through and they release a

939
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,599
bunch of people and you know, make room for new people.

940
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

941
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,559
Speaker 6: No, I'm sad.

942
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 5: It's evolution. It's an evolution. Bron didn't really have a storyline.

943
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He just came in there to kick a couple of

944
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people around and that's now. Yeah, they do, but they

945
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:43,960
had no creative direction for him, and that's the thing.

946
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He hasn't had creative direction since the wyots.

947
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Speaker 7: Yeah. I do feel like they kind of they've kind

948
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,719
of done everything they could with him. He'll probably end

949
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
up in a w and he'll have a fresh go

950
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to paint and.

951
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Speaker 8: You know, and then come back. It's just like crusive.

952
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:05,119
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but did you want I assume you watched WrestleMania.

953
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 5: Of course, I actually was was live with the Josh

954
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:14,039
Zodiac podcast and they streamed. We were streaming it live

955
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,599
as it was going on, obviously not video but audio only. Yeah,

956
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,880
but yeah, yeah, we were calling shots. We predicted night

957
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000
one there was gonna be so much interference, and there

958
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:28,079
end up being zero interference. So it's like we felt

959
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:33,719
like absolute idiots. We did. I did call Paul Haman

960
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,000
his turn. I called it right down the middle. I

961
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:41,320
think the short description I put on my Facebook when

962
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,360
I was predicting, when I was predicting the night one

963
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:48,480
was Paul Hayman is now in between two his he's

964
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:51,480
a best friend, he's a wise man. Who does he

965
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:57,280
you know? Who does he do? Over? Yes? And he

966
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,239
ends up being a.

967
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Speaker 6: I didn't see that. I did not see that coming

968
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:04,480
at I saw it.

969
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:05,159
Speaker 5: I saw it.

970
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: I did not see him a set.

971
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 5: Look at my look at my Facebook and the crime stamp.

972
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,320
I called it right down the middle.

973
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 6: They totally got me on that one. I had no

974
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:22,400
I did not see that coming. And wow.

975
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Speaker 7: Now also, and I'm sure Eric, I know well, I

976
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,119
know Eric has talked to you about coming on Tough

977
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:30,239
Bumps with Us, our new wrestling podcast that Eric and

978
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,840
I are doing. But I'm really curious. The biggest disagreement

979
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,800
that we had on episode one, and we're actually recording

980
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,960
episode two today, but the biggest disagreement we had on

981
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:41,760
episode one was the John Cena versus Cody Rhodes match.

982
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:44,760
I actually liked it, but I feel like everyone and Jenny,

983
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,440
you liked it, right, you didn't have any problem with it.

984
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,960
From what I recall, you liked the match.

985
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 5: I didn't have.

986
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,159
Speaker 6: Any problem with it. It just wasn't as energetic as others.

987
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, the the you know, the general consensus online seems

988
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,360
to be a lot of people hated it. Eric didn't

989
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,400
like it. I'm curious what you thought, Charles.

990
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 6: I didn't.

991
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's here's what I said. And and you have

992
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:10,800
to be objectively a person that knows the wrestling, the wrestlers,

993
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,360
what match you're gonna do. Cody and John Cena are

994
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,719
not top flight people that you're not going to see

995
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,440
him do acrobatic moves all over the place. They are grinders,

996
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,039
they are they are basically Matt junkies. They are gonna

997
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:29,280
They're gonna go ahead and they're gonna grind these things out.

998
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 8: You're not gonna see a bunch of high flying.

999
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 5: So the matches that you see with the Lugidors is

1000
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,280
going to be well more entertaining than anything you're gonna

1001
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,960
see with with John and Cody. Sure, I felt that

1002
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:44,119
this I felt this match delivered on everything that these

1003
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,039
two wrestlers could do. And the Travis Scott, even though

1004
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:51,239
a lot of people were bummed at the Rock didn't

1005
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:51,880
make an appearance.

1006
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 8: I could have told you he ain't gonna be there, and.

1007
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:58,119
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that, But the Travis Scott appearance and

1008
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,920
the way John Cena won was justified. He is a superhel.

1009
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,280
This is a John Ceny heel that should define healism,

1010
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:13,079
if that's even a word. Really, yes, this is a

1011
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,599
this is a John Ceny heel that I think it

1012
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,960
ended the way the character is portrayed, and that's by

1013
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:24,320
doing what he's doing. The Eddie Guerrero lied cheating and

1014
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:28,079
stealing anything he can get his hands on to win

1015
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:29,159
the match, and that's what he did.

1016
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,519
Speaker 7: So it sounds like you're you're in line with what

1017
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:33,920
I said basically, so you enjoyed the match, and it

1018
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,559
sounds like you really enjoy John Cena working as a heel,

1019
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,519
and that to me, that was my argument to Eric.

1020
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:41,559
It was like, yeah, the match was slow. He's forty

1021
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,760
seven years old, but at his work rate was never

1022
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,480
that great to begin with. But we're seeing we're well,

1023
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:50,320
well no, it's it's true, but we're seeing we're seeing

1024
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,760
heel John Cena. And they had to let that breathe.

1025
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:54,920
The match had to be kind of slow to let

1026
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,199
that breathe and let us sort of take that in

1027
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,480
what heel John Cena is like and I'm really enjoying it.

1028
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do like the character.

1029
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,039
Speaker 8: And again, I think a lot of people like the character.

1030
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,519
Speaker 5: That's why he's getting mixed reactions instead of just straight

1031
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,599
up booze. Yeah, regardless of maybe the booth could be

1032
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,320
filtered in because there's so much positivity.

1033
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 7: Going on with the character now, I don't know, because

1034
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,320
we find we finally got what we wanted. Yes, we finally, we.

1035
00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: Finally when when when he kicked Cody right there in

1036
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:30,679
between in the private area, Uh, during that during that

1037
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,880
elimination chamber, Uh, there was such a pop. And I'm

1038
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,920
not talking about bad pop. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah,

1039
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,760
did you get him a booth? Yeah? I mean it

1040
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,559
was just it was great. I mean, and and I

1041
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,599
think that's why I truly believe back in creative and

1042
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,159
again this is just a theory. I truly believe they

1043
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,760
were going to come out with a whole new entrance,

1044
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,440
with a whole new gimmick, with a whole new dress,

1045
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:03,360
and just because that's what people wanted the No.

1046
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:06,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the other thing I liked at WrestleMania.

1047
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:08,760
I liked the minimalism of seeing his entrance with just

1048
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,440
you know, his name in white on a black background.

1049
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:14,079
I thought that was I thought that was perfectly done

1050
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,920
and uh and and really set the tone. I thought

1051
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,039
that was excellent.

1052
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 5: Yep, I'm liking everything they're doing.

1053
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:22,719
Speaker 8: Really.

1054
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 5: I mean, there's not a whole lot that I'm not liking.

1055
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,960
I don't like the Mister America re themed.

1056
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:31,639
Speaker 7: Oh, I like it.

1057
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 5: I like it.

1058
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:34,519
Speaker 7: I think I.

1059
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:38,719
Speaker 5: Love it.

1060
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 6: I like it.

1061
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's fun.

1062
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:44,039
Speaker 6: It's totally fun. And I get my back.

1063
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole mister America thing, it's not No, it's

1064
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:53,519
not it is.

1065
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 6: It's his thank you character repackaged.

1066
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's I think it's fun. I'my. I

1067
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,480
love Charles. Charles. We are right up against the top

1068
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,480
of the hour, so we're gonna have to move on

1069
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:07,880
in a moment. But this has been wonderful. We must

1070
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,199
do this more often. And I'm sure I'm going to

1071
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:11,880
see you on the Tough Bumps podcast too. I know

1072
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,559
you and Eric have been talking about that. But also,

1073
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:17,239
please give your show a plug.

1074
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, so right now it is basically how do we say,

1075
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:26,400
it's whenever we go on, we go on. Usually it's

1076
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,320
Monday and Wednesdays that we have right now. That could change.

1077
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:32,159
But going to my Facebook, it's actually posted there on

1078
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:36,039
the comments Facebook dot com FoST as the Charles Richardson Show.

1079
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:38,840
That's my page. You can subscribe to my YouTube channel

1080
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,920
also titled The Charles Richardson Show, and our affiliate station,

1081
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:48,679
which is my own station for eighties and nineties dance

1082
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,280
music Power one Radio. We're also aired there live and

1083
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,320
that's on the Live three sixty five app as well.

1084
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:57,039
Speaker 7: Outstanding outstanding, well, Charles, always wonderful to speak with you,

1085
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:59,519
my friend. Like I said, we must do this more often.

1086
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:03,440
And my best to everyone there, and I am sure

1087
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,000
we will talk to you soon. And by the way,

1088
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:08,320
thanks for being the guinea pig with us using WhatsApp.

1089
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:10,679
We've made radio history for the first time on Matt

1090
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,719
Connorton Unleashed, we have used WhatsApp for this purpose. Now

1091
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,880
that now that Skype is now that Skype is deceased,

1092
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:21,360
r I P Skype.

1093
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 8: Why do you guys call me a pig?

1094
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:34,159
Speaker 5: I mean I'm already fat enough as it is. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes,

1095
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,679
I love you guys. You take care all.

1096
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:41,679
Speaker 7: Right, you too, Charles take care bye bye, all right,

1097
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,679
very good, very good. Well, we're gonna take a quick break.

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