Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started five o'clock here on
Speaker 2: a Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with us. Coffee
Speaker 2: and Company fuel bet Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: You could take us with you wherever you go. Listen
Speaker 2: live on the Aheart Radio app. Listen live at seven
Speaker 2: ninety Louisville dot Com busy show. So far today that
Speaker 2: it's gone by. It's going by really fast, which I
Speaker 2: think that's a good thing. It's five o'clock. I guess
Speaker 2: a lot of you guys are off work now, so hey,
Speaker 2: that's a good thing. We've got you covered on Saturday
Speaker 2: for Louisville and Clemson with our game day coverage. The
Speaker 2: Louisville Football pregame Show, presented by Pillow Windows and Doors
Speaker 2: of Central Kentucky and Jefferson Animal Hospital, will start right
Speaker 2: about six thirty. Kickoff is at seven thirty, so six
Speaker 2: thirty we'll get the pregame show started, and then after
Speaker 2: the game it'll be another late night and we'll we'll
Speaker 2: be reacting to what I hope is a first time thing,
Speaker 2: meaning Louisville beating Clemson. It's never happened before, and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if it be if it would be accurate
Speaker 2: to say that, you know, this is the perfect time
Speaker 2: to get it done, but you know, got to start somewhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, no better time than the next time you
Speaker 2: get to play on which of course is coming up
Speaker 2: on Saturday. So look, I don't want to act like
Speaker 2: they're you know, they're benefiting from like a crazy easy schedule,
Speaker 2: because I don't really believe that. I mean, they are
Speaker 2: playing really, really good football and you know their their
Speaker 2: game against Georgia ended up being a beat down. But
Speaker 2: I'm glad Brahms said this earlier this week, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't change the score. I mean, they lost to Georgia
Speaker 2: thirty four to three. That's a beat down by any standards.
Speaker 2: And Clemson, you know, they used to be able to
Speaker 2: compete with anybody. In losing thirty four to three, I mean,
Speaker 2: they've taken a step back, like they're not what they
Speaker 2: once were, but they're still good and that game was
Speaker 2: actually pretty close until late third quarter. Like I remember
Speaker 2: that it never got talked about because it was an
Speaker 2: opportunity for everybody to rag on Dabbo because he's an
Speaker 2: easy punching bag, and I mean I rag on him too.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that he won't use the portal,
Speaker 2: I mean, especially knowing that it could, you know, make
Speaker 2: his team better, is just insane. It's one of the
Speaker 2: most stubborn things I've ever seen play out in sports.
Speaker 2: So again, you're not even you. You don't get credit
Speaker 2: because the game wasn't as ugly until the very end,
Speaker 2: but that is sort of part of the story. So
Speaker 2: they have you know, they got blown out by Georgia,
Speaker 2: although they were competitive for a while. They're playing much
Speaker 2: better ball right now, and you know, they deserve to
Speaker 2: be double digit favorites like they are on Saturday. However,
Speaker 2: with that said, it's not like this is a counter
Speaker 2: like this is not hey, they're not good because of this,
Speaker 2: because I think they are a really good team and
Speaker 2: they're playing really good football. But this is just something
Speaker 2: that needs to be added for context here. They have
Speaker 2: not played a good schedule really at all. Outside of Georgia.
Speaker 2: They played Apps State, they played n C State, Stanford,
Speaker 2: Florida State, Wake Forest, Virginia, I mean, all lowsy teams
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. And another thing to keep
Speaker 2: in mind is like Virginia, who Louisville beat, is the
Speaker 2: only team that has a winning record that Clemson's played.
Speaker 2: And actually, let me take that back, because now that
Speaker 2: Virginia got beat by North Carolina, I'm pretty sure they
Speaker 2: got beat pretty bad. Clemson doesn't have a win against
Speaker 2: the team with a winning record. You know, to do
Speaker 2: with that, which you will, But Clemson dominating as far
Speaker 2: as the scoreboard, and you know, still having like their
Speaker 2: brand's clearly taken a hit, right, but they were so
Speaker 2: on top that the hit hasn't really made it to
Speaker 2: where people just look at like you don't look at
Speaker 2: Clemson still and think, well, you know, we should win
Speaker 2: that game. And I'm you know, from Louisville's perspective, that's
Speaker 2: an obvious thing, considering the fact that you know, Louisvill's
Speaker 2: never beat him. But I don't care who you are,
Speaker 2: Clemson's on the schedule, you probably feel better about the
Speaker 2: game now than you did when they had Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: and Trevor Lawrence and even even the dude that was
Speaker 2: there in between. Always forget about him. Transferred from Kelly
Speaker 2: Bryant who took over after Deshaun Watson. And then, of course,
Speaker 2: if you remember he ended up transferring, did he transfer
Speaker 2: elsewhere after he left? I think he went to Missouri,
Speaker 2: But did he transfer to Clemson. I guess that wouldn't
Speaker 2: make sense because you know, Dabo doesn't utilize the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: So either way, like that era of Clemson, you clearly
Speaker 2: are looking at him differently than than you are now.
Speaker 2: But there's still a program that anybody in the country
Speaker 2: would would realize they need to play well if they
Speaker 2: want to beat them. And I guess you could say
Speaker 2: that about a lot of teams, but maybe I'll be
Speaker 2: proven wrong, but I actually think that you've got them
Speaker 2: in a pretty good time. I mean, playing teams that
Speaker 2: don't have winning records and playing teams that give you
Speaker 2: a weak strength of schedule when it comes to rankings.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're bad. It doesn't have anything to
Speaker 2: really do with how good you are, but it does
Speaker 2: sort of add a level of I guess, perception to
Speaker 2: how you're viewed that maybe I'm getting a little carried
Speaker 2: away with. But like Clemson, I think, you know, they're
Speaker 2: probably as good as Miami, or maybe not quite as
Speaker 2: good offensively, although okay, club Nick's playing really well. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would love to see Clemson and SMU play, and
Speaker 2: Clemson in Miami play, but they're not on the schedules
Speaker 2: this year. They will play Pitt. That's actually the game
Speaker 2: two weeks after this one, so that should be another
Speaker 2: challenge for Clemson. If this pit team is as legitiate
Speaker 2: they've looked. I mean, they dominated Syracuse, which I don't
Speaker 2: know if that said more about cuser about Pitt the
Speaker 2: other night. But again, I'm not trying to tell you that, hey,
Speaker 2: this team's ripe to get taken down. Clemson's overrated. They're
Speaker 2: not that good, but they're as beatable now as maybe
Speaker 2: they've ever been. When Loulves played them. I take that back.
Speaker 2: I guess the last time you played them was Sadderfield's
Speaker 2: last year, and you you were right there and you
Speaker 2: you know, they still had Dju and he's stunk, and
Speaker 2: you had him at home. It was that goal line
Speaker 2: that you couldn't convert and that really kind of was
Speaker 2: the game. So maybe that was the best time to
Speaker 2: get him if you were going to get them. But
Speaker 2: I don't think that that team's that much different than
Speaker 2: this Clemson team. And I know it sounds like I'm
Speaker 2: dogging them, but like I think they've probably been. Like
Speaker 2: last year, their record was what, let's look it up.
Speaker 2: Last year, if you remember, they went to that bowl
Speaker 2: game against Kentucky and ended up beating them. I think
Speaker 2: was it overtime. Either way, it was a close. It
Speaker 2: was actually a really fun game to watch. It was
Speaker 2: a shootout. They beat Kentucky. He wasn't an overtime. It's
Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty five. So last year Clemson finished nine
Speaker 2: and four overall. And if I'd have told you Clemson
Speaker 2: finished seven and five overall, I think you would have
Speaker 2: believed me because they are so far from what they
Speaker 2: once were that the perception is that they're awful and
Speaker 2: they really never have been, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like last year they lost to Duke, they lost to
Speaker 2: Florida State, they lost to Miami, they lost to NC State.
Speaker 2: Those were their losses. Last year, they beat Notre Dame
Speaker 2: ranked win, they beat Carolina at the end of November
Speaker 2: when they were a ranked team. They beat a South
Speaker 2: Carolina team that you know, I guess wasn't very good
Speaker 2: now that I think about it. But there other way
Speaker 2: you know, I mean right now, it is it's not
Speaker 2: possible to say that, you know, if they're better this
Speaker 2: year than they were a year ago. I think because
Speaker 2: they've been playing so well since getting blown out by
Speaker 2: g Orgia, that there's this belief that here we go,
Speaker 2: this Clemson team. Man, everybody doubted Dabbo, but he's got
Speaker 2: it roll and they look like the best team in
Speaker 2: the ACC in the eyes of some like I get
Speaker 2: why people are saying that, but if you do consider
Speaker 2: who they've played, it's just tough to know that for sure.
Speaker 2: So again, right now, if you look at the current
Speaker 2: ACC standings, let's see here Louisville as after their win
Speaker 2: against they moved to three and two in the league
Speaker 2: after beating Boston College on Friday, Clemson five and O
Speaker 2: Miami five and O SMU four and O Pittsburgh three
Speaker 2: and oh Virginia Tech has one loss, and then you've
Speaker 2: got two loss Louisville, and then everybody else has at
Speaker 2: least three losses. But when it comes to overall wins
Speaker 2: and loss records, Clemson has no wins against anybody with
Speaker 2: a winning record. Now Louisville, they've got one win against
Speaker 2: the team with a winning record. That's Georgia Tech. Virginia's
Speaker 2: four and four. Boston College is four and four. So
Speaker 2: there's a part of me that you know, is trying
Speaker 2: to fight off some confidence in this game because I
Speaker 2: don't want to be let down, John. But I think
Speaker 2: you can tell you can tell I'm feeling pretty good
Speaker 2: about this game, more so than may maybe some would
Speaker 2: have expected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't blame you. I mean, you mentioned
Speaker 3: it already that Clemson is not the Clemson of the
Speaker 3: mid twenty tens. Whenever they were going to the College
Speaker 3: Football Playoff, it seemed like every year or so. And
Speaker 3: this is a lot more beatable of a team. And
Speaker 3: if Louisville really does take the momentum that they got
Speaker 3: from the Boston College win, I mean, there's no reason
Speaker 3: that they can at least be competitive in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, that would still suck, but that would
Speaker 2: also be something that we'd have to and you all
Speaker 2: and everybody can do it on their own, meaning you
Speaker 2: decide how you feel. That's how fans should be fans.
Speaker 2: But if they lose and it's a really good game
Speaker 2: and it feels like they just came up short because
Speaker 2: Clemson at home is a really tough place to win.
Speaker 2: I'm still to be upset disappointed, but like I would
Speaker 2: probably be able to say that, Yeah, like if they
Speaker 2: if they get through a full game in Death Valley
Speaker 2: without the types of things we've seen at least once,
Speaker 2: but more often four or five times in many of
Speaker 2: the games throughout the season, that'll that'll be. I think
Speaker 2: you can claim that they did, in fact get better
Speaker 2: after the Boston College comeback. Now again that point, results
Speaker 2: are gonna matter, Like you can't slip up, like if
Speaker 2: you end up cleaning things up and you stop, you know,
Speaker 2: with the silly turnovers, snapping the ball over the punter's head,
Speaker 2: having too many men on the field, having guys run
Speaker 2: wide open out of a timeout, Like if you eliminate
Speaker 2: those kind of things, and yet you still lose to Clemson,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and maybe even Kentucky at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you just weren't very good. So I guess so desperately
Speaker 2: I want to be able to say this Louisville team
Speaker 2: did get better, clean some things up, and they finished strong,
Speaker 2: and I'm excited they've got an opportunity to to to
Speaker 2: really I mean again, I think a win against Clemson
Speaker 2: would not make anybody forget about the earlier losses, but
Speaker 2: like it would, it would give us some good vibes
Speaker 2: that we haven't had in a long long time. I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be honest. Last year you went ten and two
Speaker 2: in the regular season, Like what win made you feel good?
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, And that was a great win. You beat them,
Speaker 2: it was at home, it was a top ten matchup,
Speaker 2: but like you'd already beat Notre Dame before, And I
Speaker 2: feel like not to say that the expectation was there,
Speaker 2: that everybody assumed Louisville was gonna win and that they
Speaker 2: you know, they couldn't lose. But I just think beating
Speaker 2: Clemson at Clemson, especially knowing like how frustrating it was
Speaker 2: to see them miss out on three potential wins all
Speaker 2: really because mostly them, and in them not being ready
Speaker 2: to play or you know whatever you will have however
Speaker 2: you want to phrase it. I get in troublesometimes because
Speaker 2: when you say not ready to play, it triggers people.
Speaker 2: But like, either way, for whatever reason, not ready to
Speaker 2: play or maybe just not being focused or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: they've had some mistakes that just seem to be very
Speaker 2: avoidable and that's made it so frustrating. Again, the result
Speaker 2: itself is not a killer. Losing to the teams you've
Speaker 2: lost to is not something that you got to panic
Speaker 2: and you know, freak out because maybe you're awful, Like,
Speaker 2: it's not that. But the things you did within those
Speaker 2: games is what made it so frustrating. And again, I
Speaker 2: know I'm reiterating what I said yesterday on the show,
Speaker 2: but why not beating Boston College at their place is
Speaker 2: again what you're supposed to do. In fact, you didn't
Speaker 2: even cover. But similar to the other games, it's how
Speaker 2: it looked and what transpired that really kind of set
Speaker 2: the tone for fans. Nobody's mad you lost to Notre
Speaker 2: Dame at their place as far as the overall result,
Speaker 2: but it's that you did a lot of stupid stuff
Speaker 2: that kept you from being able to get a win
Speaker 2: that would have really had a value. Same thing against
Speaker 2: SMU Miami. Not as much, but still yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can't commit a special team's penalty that puts you
Speaker 2: on your own five yard line, three yard line, whatever
Speaker 2: it was, and then fumble it on the first play
Speaker 2: and they scoop it and score. Those are things you
Speaker 2: never want to do. You know, but against Miami, a
Speaker 2: team that you know you don't want to give free
Speaker 2: points to because they can really light it up offensively. Like,
Speaker 2: it's those things that made it so frustrating. So to
Speaker 2: see this team, you know, come from twenty points behind
Speaker 2: on the road, and not only I talked about this
Speaker 2: earlier in the show if you guys missed it, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't just that they battled back to really dominate
Speaker 2: that game after getting down twenty to nothing. It was
Speaker 2: how they were doing it. In the body language they
Speaker 2: had out there. It's almost like they were bouncing around
Speaker 2: kind of carrying themselves a little bit differently to where
Speaker 2: they were carrying themselves with confidence that I actually believe
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, because they've not been I mean,
Speaker 2: even that game, like the scores that Boston College had early,
Speaker 2: like I don't really feel like they were earned. I
Speaker 2: mean it was littlevill just either one you know, a
Speaker 2: chunk play that put them in a great position to
Speaker 2: score to where you're defense, you know, gave up one
Speaker 2: big play and then that lead to them that led
Speaker 2: to them having an easy opportunity score. So they really
Speaker 2: dominated the rest of the way. And again I know
Speaker 2: the opponent isn't something to be super you know, impressed
Speaker 2: with it's it's Boston College. But I'm really hopeful that
Speaker 2: they they can springboard off of that. Again, it sounds
Speaker 2: so weird to say hopefully they were really really capitalized
Speaker 2: on that win against Boston College when again that's who
Speaker 2: you're supposed to beat, and it was ugly early on,
Speaker 2: but the way in which they had to do it,
Speaker 2: I mean, at least I hope it showed them something
Speaker 2: about themselves that they can they can carry over to
Speaker 2: this big game against Clemson. I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is crazy. The win probability in that game. I'm glad
Speaker 2: somebody sent this in Hey kickoff, ESPN's win probability was
Speaker 2: seventy to thirty in favor of Louisville when they got
Speaker 2: down twenty to nothing. It was ninety percent win probability
Speaker 2: for Boston College, ten percent for Louisville, eighteen percent for
Speaker 2: Louisville whenever it got to twenty seven, seventeen, thirty four
Speaker 2: percent when it got to twenty seven to twenty four,
Speaker 2: and then seventy four percent when they were up thirty
Speaker 2: one to twenty seven. So I mean, when you got
Speaker 2: down twenty to nothing. I mean I would say nine
Speaker 2: out of ten of those situations lead to the team
Speaker 2: that was down twenty to nothing not only not winning,
Speaker 2: but not even competing. So yes, maybe I am really
Speaker 2: building this up for something more than it was. And
Speaker 2: if so, I get it. Like, if you think that's
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, I guess you could say I may
Speaker 2: be guilty, but we got to start somewhere. Like, I
Speaker 2: know this team is better than what we've seen at
Speaker 2: times this year, and maybe it's even a stretch to
Speaker 2: say that because I think even in games we watch
Speaker 2: them make these boneheaded mistakes, they still find a way
Speaker 2: to put themselves in the game with a chance to win,
Speaker 2: and it's what it could have should have because again,
Speaker 2: you win or you lose, that those are the two results.
Speaker 2: But again, frustrating is still the word that I think
Speaker 2: fits best to describe this season because it feels like
Speaker 2: we're lying when we say, yeah, this team's really good,
Speaker 2: because again, the record doesn't indicate that. But if you
Speaker 2: watch them, yeah they make mistakes, and look, if that's
Speaker 2: what you do consistently, you got to look in the mirror.
Speaker 2: That's part of your identity. But like if you could
Speaker 2: just easily clean it up. You go from being a
Speaker 2: team that you know is sloppy, that hurts themselves, that
Speaker 2: could lose to anybody with their mistakes, or it's a
Speaker 2: team that, like, damn, they might mess around and beat anybody. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, because again, the good
Speaker 2: teams they played at this point, they haven't beat them,
Speaker 2: you know, and they're gonna have another chance to do
Speaker 2: that on Saturday. And to say they're due to break
Speaker 2: through and actually beat one of these good teams they
Speaker 2: play is an understatement. All right, let's take our first break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. A lot more
Speaker 2: to get into. There's a new position within college sports
Speaker 2: that is probably gonna be one of the most important
Speaker 2: positions within a program college football, college basketball. It's the
Speaker 2: nil director position, and nobody would doubt the importance of it.
Speaker 2: But man, it sounds like a thankless job. It better
Speaker 2: pay big bucks. But you're starting to see those kind
Speaker 2: of positions posted, and there was a good read as
Speaker 2: far as what type of people are qualifying for those jobs,
Speaker 2: right like what profession careers are they coming from? To
Speaker 2: kind of service The Nile director also Tony Bennett, he
Speaker 2: quit and starting to kind of play out to where
Speaker 2: he knew he had a bad team, and he bailed,
Speaker 2: And now you got guys leaving Virginia in mid October
Speaker 2: with I don't know how they'd end up anywhere else,
Speaker 2: but I'm curious if, like Virginia really sucks this year. Well,
Speaker 2: people still say, ah, let's give Tony Bennett the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt, because he's such a handsome, charming guy,
Speaker 2: and he'd never he'd never do anything that isn't what's
Speaker 2: best for Virginia. He'd never, he'd never be selfish and quit,
Speaker 2: you know, a week before the season starts. But I
Speaker 2: think that's kind of what he did. So anyways, we'll
Speaker 2: take a break, come back on the other side, and
Speaker 2: maybe talk a little more about a potential upset for
Speaker 2: Mark Hope tonight. I can't say that and make you
Speaker 2: feel like I believe it, because I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: But man, if you're get to schedule a Division two
Speaker 2: team for an exhibition game, don't schedule the defending national champions, man,
Speaker 2: I mean, or do and give us something to root
Speaker 2: for on the rival side, But come on, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's asking for it all right, don't go anywhere,
Speaker 2: keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: You got about thirty minutes left here on a Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you hanging out with us again in his Coffee
Speaker 2: and Company, and we are fueled by Thornton's here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. If you want to join us
Speaker 2: on the show, you can. In fact, let let's welcome in, well,
Speaker 2: not welcome in, but let's read some text on the
Speaker 2: text line. It's the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text
Speaker 2: line BABU two six five to three zero seven ninety
Speaker 2: members get more at Ellen and Federal Credit Union. You
Speaker 2: can learn more and open your account today at LNFCU
Speaker 2: dot com. So this is a long text that I
Speaker 2: really didn't have time to read until we went to break,
Speaker 2: but I'll try to summarize it. And I think what
Speaker 2: this person is saying is a good point that the
Speaker 2: real issue with NIL will be in everybody's face essentially
Speaker 2: years years down the line. And you can correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm not saying what I think you're saying, but
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure what you mean is that by the
Speaker 2: time that it's the new norm and everybody knows that
Speaker 2: if you play college athletics at a big time school,
Speaker 2: it is it is a high paying job for you.
Speaker 2: It's going to eliminate the hunger of people that you
Speaker 2: know are using the opportunity. I mean, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: some of these guys, I'm sure really are genuine about
Speaker 2: the educational component and they do realize they're getting a
Speaker 2: chance to get a free college education that could really
Speaker 2: put them in a great place for life after sports.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if they don't embrace it and you know,
Speaker 2: really value it in real time, they'll learn later in
Speaker 2: life that if they got a college degree and they graduated,
Speaker 2: then then you know, probably something they really aren't going
Speaker 2: to be thankful for until down the line. Because a
Speaker 2: lot of high level athletes, especially those that enter college
Speaker 2: and those that are early on in their college career,
Speaker 2: they're thinking pro sports. Now again, that's not reality. How
Speaker 2: hard it is to be to be like a full
Speaker 2: time NFL an NBA player for many many years. Like
Speaker 2: the percentage chances of that being the job and how
Speaker 2: it works out for for these I mean, there's not many.
Speaker 2: It's hard to do. How you can go overseas and
Speaker 2: play and that kind of stuff in basketball and football's
Speaker 2: a little bit different. But even if they are getting
Speaker 2: a stipend and they're getting maybe even like a rev
Speaker 2: share and nil didn't exist to where you can get
Speaker 2: it now, and it really isn't tied to you know,
Speaker 2: to playing. It's just you know, it's being dressed up
Speaker 2: as something different. I think if in fact, it's just
Speaker 2: a gig and you know your you know your gig
Speaker 2: and your pay is not based upon performance and it's
Speaker 2: not really based upon results. Are people still gonna like
Speaker 2: give Are we still going to see these college athletes
Speaker 2: really putting in the kind of work you used to see, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, like if you know your and this sounds awful,
Speaker 2: but I'm just gonna be honest with you, like just
Speaker 2: thinking out loud. If you know you've got an NIL
Speaker 2: check that's coming regardless of what happens, and it's you know,
Speaker 2: not a million dollars, but you know it's it's a
Speaker 2: good chunk of change, more money than you'd make annually
Speaker 2: in most any job you would get right out of college.
Speaker 2: And you know you're not a pro, like you just know,
Speaker 2: like there's no scenario you're going to play professionally in
Speaker 2: the NBA or the NFL. And if you're a basketball player,
Speaker 2: you know you don't have any any aspirations to play
Speaker 2: professionally overseas, maybe because you know what you're gonna do
Speaker 2: after basketball, you could mail it in and like what changes,
Speaker 2: Like you know what what's the like, what's what's really
Speaker 2: going to impact your livelihood negatively if you don't try
Speaker 2: your hardest and your team isn't very good because again,
Speaker 2: it's a job. Like I think players should be allowed
Speaker 2: to get paid. I don't know the perfect scenario that
Speaker 2: makes it to where there is still a level of
Speaker 2: like not amateurism because that's just gone, but like where
Speaker 2: there is a hunger. And I don't want to act
Speaker 2: like the guys now that are getting paid, like none
Speaker 2: of them try and none of them care, because I
Speaker 2: just don't believe that's the case. But like I could
Speaker 2: see how down the line when college athletics at this
Speaker 2: level is more so viewed as a job than anything else.
Speaker 2: You know, are you gonna be I mean, you get
Speaker 2: you guy guys walking away from the job because they're
Speaker 2: gonna go get another job next year, and that you know,
Speaker 2: that's pro sports, Like in the NFL, the NBA, Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball, NHL, like professional sports as a whole, Like
Speaker 2: it's these guys' jobs. And you know, I think, what
Speaker 2: the people who love college sports and don't really get
Speaker 2: into pro sports and there, I mean, I'm sure there
Speaker 2: are plenty of them. I don't know how many of
Speaker 2: those people are out there, but clearly they're there. There
Speaker 2: are there are enough everything that they prefer college sports
Speaker 2: for and don't like the pro sports. Like it's now
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of the same thing to where again
Speaker 2: it's a job now, and that is sad, like because
Speaker 2: that's going to turn a lot of people off, and
Speaker 2: it's just going to be right in your face directly
Speaker 2: that this is all transactional and that is a sad
Speaker 2: thing for college sports. And I've now kind of removed
Speaker 2: myself from paraphrasing what that text said, but like, if
Speaker 2: that's where you were going, like I get it, you know,
Speaker 2: but it's not changing. It's just not Like Jeff Walls
Speaker 2: said it best, And this was on a press conference
Speaker 2: they did before Louis Alive with both with both Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey and Jeff Walls. If you know, like you transferred
Speaker 2: to this school across the country for one more year
Speaker 2: of eligibility and you know the team's doing all right,
Speaker 2: but not a legit contender to like make a final
Speaker 2: four one. And again this is not Walls, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to get to his quote in a second. But
Speaker 2: like if you've already been paid, he said, would you
Speaker 2: come back to work? If you know you've already got
Speaker 2: your last check? Would you come back to work? Like
Speaker 2: you're not breaking the law, Like maybe, but it's just not.
Speaker 2: It's not practical in any other walk of life to
Speaker 2: where you can have a job and still put in
Speaker 2: two more weeks or two more months and you've already
Speaker 2: been paid in full, Like that's not normal. But in NIL,
Speaker 2: because of how they have to do it, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there are some players that get paid everything upfront. I
Speaker 2: would think, as we learned throughout the early years of
Speaker 2: the NIL era that like you shouldn't do that, and
Speaker 2: I would imagine now most or not, but let's just
Speaker 2: say they are.
Speaker 3: Even if you.
Speaker 2: Show up to work, are you really like you're kind
Speaker 2: of mailing it in right, Like you're probably having fun,
Speaker 2: but like when adversity hits or your team hits a
Speaker 2: couple of losses, you're falling back on. Well, hey, at
Speaker 2: least I'm still getting paid, you know, I'll still do this,
Speaker 2: but like you know, I don't really care because it's
Speaker 2: a job now, like nobody does their job. They shouldn't
Speaker 2: say nobody because that's not true. Let me back up.
Speaker 2: There are certain jobs that people do it because they
Speaker 2: love it or they would get different job. That is
Speaker 2: much like again, like I think there are thankless jobs
Speaker 2: right now that are super important and more and more
Speaker 2: people aren't doing them anymore, and it's scary, Like teachers,
Speaker 2: Like being a teacher is really important. We need great teachers,
Speaker 2: but a lot of them don't do it, an I mean,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have walked away from that profession
Speaker 2: or there's just not as many that are getting into
Speaker 2: it now because it's not a high paying job compared
Speaker 2: to some other career fields and you gotta put up
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. So those who do it love it,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure there's other careers like that as well,
Speaker 2: But it's also because of money, Like you wouldn't do
Speaker 2: it for free, right, even if you do it and
Speaker 2: you love it, and you know, it's not as high
Speaker 2: paying of a gig that you could probably get elsewhere,
Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna do if you're not getting paid,
Speaker 2: So like just money being involved in the way it
Speaker 2: is now because of nil will have it already has
Speaker 2: had a huge change to what college sports used to
Speaker 2: be in what a lot of people loved about college
Speaker 2: sports specifically, and that's sad. I think the product is
Speaker 2: still at a pretty good place. I mean the transactions
Speaker 2: that take place again, like Colin Lacy opting out like
Speaker 2: that sucks for Louisville, but that could be a big
Speaker 2: deal for another team that gets him if he leaves.
Speaker 2: And when I tune in on Saturdays and watch college football,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the product's ever been in a better place.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that needs to be said more
Speaker 2: than it is. And maybe you disagree, but like people
Speaker 2: are watching college football at a really high level, and
Speaker 2: I think the action again, the entertainment value that's there
Speaker 2: is really really good. So I think people are still
Speaker 2: gonna watch it. It's just, you know, it's a process
Speaker 2: as we transition from what used to be so different.
Speaker 2: But if you are somebody that has learned throughout the
Speaker 2: last few years that like what you really loved about
Speaker 2: college sports, what made it something you were really passionate about.
Speaker 2: It's no more and it's and you know, it's changed
Speaker 2: how you view I get it.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I understand, but either adapt or you know, I guess
Speaker 2: find something else to be passionate about. I mean, because
Speaker 2: it's not changing.
Speaker 3: Let me say this real quick. From my perspective, Indiana
Speaker 3: football does not have the season they're having without an
Speaker 3: eye on the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Kinny Paine might still be our coach. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: to be honest, he might because in that world he
Speaker 2: would get more time, you know, because.
Speaker 3: There's more excuses for that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: So you know, And and I used to say, well,
Speaker 2: are you bothered by knowing that a guy out there
Speaker 2: playing tight end for you is driving a better car
Speaker 2: than you, Like you need to reevaluate some things on
Speaker 2: your end if that's what you're bothered by. I used
Speaker 2: to have that mindset and I still kind of do. Like,
Speaker 2: if that's what bothers you, then you know that's just
Speaker 2: jealousies what that is. But if if it's more so
Speaker 2: because of the component of it being a job and
Speaker 2: money involved in that clearly mattering like that that is,
Speaker 2: I mean that that does make it to where like
Speaker 2: you don't get. I mean, I think these guys still do.
Speaker 2: A lot of these student athletes do. I just think
Speaker 2: it's easier to pull yourself away from getting lost in Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it everything, man, this is my team,
Speaker 2: this is my college career, this is my family. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna leave it all on the field. I would never
Speaker 2: not play because I'll do anything for my team. There
Speaker 2: are still many athletes out there that they're still programmed
Speaker 2: and wired to just that's their mindset. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna lay it all out there because that's all I know.
Speaker 2: But in ten years time, will that still be the
Speaker 2: case or will it be everybody programmed mentally to just
Speaker 2: know that this is a job and that's the scary
Speaker 2: part of it. And I don't know how you fix that.
Speaker 2: Because again, the schools being on the hook for paying
Speaker 2: the players, that will even things out a little bit.
Speaker 2: But it's still gonna be at times the wild wild
Speaker 2: West when it comes to the nil world. And players
Speaker 2: have power and ability now that they'd never have had before.
Speaker 2: And I don't I mean, I've seen no signs of
Speaker 2: them losing any privileges. In fact, it seems like anytime
Speaker 2: there's some big debate about what kids can and can't do,
Speaker 2: they get more ability to like do whatever they want. So,
Speaker 2: you know, the reason I wanted to talk about that
Speaker 2: text because it was one that really got me thinking
Speaker 2: about it in a way that I hadn't really given
Speaker 2: much thought to before, which is that when this just
Speaker 2: has when we get to you know, ten fifteen years
Speaker 2: into this, I still think people are going to be
Speaker 2: watching college sports, but like maybe we won't be calling
Speaker 2: at college sports anymore, Like maybe you know, and what
Speaker 2: made you like years of team I'm trying to find
Speaker 2: examples of, like, for example, Louisville's championship team, Like the
Speaker 2: way that twenty thirteen championship team all came together and
Speaker 2: the way that played out in that three four year run,
Speaker 2: the build up to that season where you knew, hey,
Speaker 2: if we're going to win a title, it's this year.
Speaker 2: That probably doesn't exist anymore. And that's you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's sad, but that's just that's just the way of it.
Speaker 2: Like you're not going to feel a connection to guys
Speaker 2: like Russ Smith and Peyton Steve anymore. I mean you can, right,
Speaker 2: but like they're only here for a year it's or
Speaker 2: two years even like it's you know, and they can
Speaker 2: accomplish something super special. But what made you know some
Speaker 2: of the more memorable teams for you as a UFL
Speaker 2: fan or UK fan is probably because they were here
Speaker 2: a long time and you know it was a ride, right.
Speaker 2: You watched some of these guys grow year by year
Speaker 2: and then the ultimate payoff was there when they want
Speaker 2: championships as seniors. But now when seniors win championships at schools,
Speaker 2: I'd be willing to bet they didn't start at that school.
Speaker 2: And that's just that's the new world that we're in.
Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk about Jefferson Animal Hospital. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've heard of them. They've been around for a long time, folks.
Speaker 2: Forty four years, that's how long they've been open helping
Speaker 2: you when it comes to keeping your pets healthy in
Speaker 2: case in case of an emergency, they're there for you. Christmas.
Speaker 2: It could be Christmas night, you could have something scary happen.
Speaker 2: Don't worry.
Speaker 3: They're open.
Speaker 2: They're there. They're gonna have a doctor on site to
Speaker 2: take care of you. But it didn't have to be
Speaker 2: an emergency. It could be you just wanting to get
Speaker 2: your pet in front of somebody different, maybe a change
Speaker 2: of pace, or maybe you haven't taken your your pet
Speaker 2: to get a check up in a long time, and
Speaker 2: you know you need to. In fact, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: if you haven't done that, you should. You need to.
Speaker 2: You need to make sure that these pets are healthy,
Speaker 2: and Jefferson Animal Hospital can help you with exactly that.
Speaker 2: So give them a call five O two nine underd Pets,
Speaker 2: or you can visit them online at Jefferson Vetts dot com.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back on the other side for
Speaker 2: a longer segment than we're used to here to wrap
Speaker 2: things up. That's by design, because I do want to
Speaker 2: talk a little more about, you know, this ANIL director position,
Speaker 2: but I won't. We've already talked a lot about ANIL.
Speaker 2: But I also want to get to this Kentucky exhibition
Speaker 2: game because a couple of people have sent in some
Speaker 2: like facts about this Minnesota state team, and I'm not
Speaker 2: taking the bait, guys. I'm not taking the bait for
Speaker 2: you to get me excited about this team, like pulling
Speaker 2: off an upset against Kentucky. But man, if they did,
Speaker 2: I might do a postgame show tonight for that one.
Speaker 2: But again, you guys getting my hopes up and it's
Speaker 2: just not realistic. I need to pump the brakes. They
Speaker 2: are the Division two national champions, which I don't know
Speaker 2: why anybody would schedule them as an exhibition opponent, but
Speaker 2: Mark Pope did and we'll see what happens tonight. Don't
Speaker 2: go anywhere, keep it locked right here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety. I'm not sure how many professional athletes or
Speaker 2: even former professional athletes could post a cryptic tweet or
Speaker 2: Instagram story and have millions of people trying to dissect
Speaker 2: the hidden message, but Tom Brady's certainly one of those,
Speaker 2: and apparently within the show he I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think he waited for the show to go on the air,
Speaker 2: but he's posted I guess an Instagram story and everybody's
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what he means. In fact, well done.
Speaker 2: Here with the Barstool Sports dot Com, they said cryptic
Speaker 2: Tom Brady Instagram post takes over takes over Internet by
Speaker 2: a landslide. So I don't know if you guys saw
Speaker 2: the news yesterday, but his ex wife, Jaselle Bunchin she
Speaker 2: is pregnant with the man that she cheated on Tom
Speaker 2: Brady with like, I'll be honest with you, whenever I
Speaker 2: watched the Tom Brady roast, I didn't know that like
Speaker 2: that was the thing. Like I think I heard somebody
Speaker 2: reference it, but I you know, I don't keep up
Speaker 2: with celebrity relationships stuff as far as what's going on.
Speaker 2: But there's a reason why when they were roasting tom Brady,
Speaker 2: you know, again the funniest people on the planet signing
Speaker 2: up to roast him, where they have no filter. They're
Speaker 2: just thinking about being funny. They're not really thinking about
Speaker 2: taking it light. It's called a roast. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a reason why they made many references to a jiu
Speaker 2: jitsu instructure, you know, sleeping with his wife. So anyways,
Speaker 2: that became news yesterday she was spotted, you know, showing
Speaker 2: that she was pregnant, and Tom Brady posted a picture
Speaker 2: of Look it's a sunset, I know that, and then
Speaker 2: there's some type of like bush or shrubs or something.
Speaker 2: But the there's three hearts and it says can the
Speaker 2: child within my heart rise above, which is actually a
Speaker 2: line from the Landslide song. But I mean he's got
Speaker 2: to be sad, right, I mean that people don't like
Speaker 2: people throw stuff on the Internet and sometimes like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know what people took it that way. Most
Speaker 2: people who post stuff know what they're doing. Like Tom
Speaker 2: Brady is a lot of things. He ain't dumb, Like
Speaker 2: he knew that everybody would feel sad for him. And
Speaker 2: by the way, there's a song attached to that Instagram
Speaker 2: story and it is The Chicks the Landslide. So but
Speaker 2: that's not a coincidence, right, Like that's got to be
Speaker 2: some type of a post that has something to do
Speaker 2: with him being emotional because you know, he got divorced
Speaker 2: and now she's with the dude she was allegedly cheating
Speaker 2: on him with. I mean, there's no denying that. Like
Speaker 2: they're an item now because they're you know, they're having
Speaker 2: a kid and whatnot. But yeah, just like like Lebron
Speaker 2: does this kind of stuff, right, Like not like with
Speaker 2: the relationship stuff. But like, you know, the reason I
Speaker 2: bring it up is not because I give a damn
Speaker 2: about Tom Brady or what's going on with his ex wife.
Speaker 2: But you know, when I I go through social media, Twitter,
Speaker 2: mostly during the show because usually I don't, you know,
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time surfing the web while I'm
Speaker 2: on the air. But like, this wasn't something that was
Speaker 2: on the radar, and now it's like all anybody's talking about.
Speaker 2: What did Tom Brady mean?
Speaker 1: Is he sad?
Speaker 2: Does this mean that he's Is this actually a reference
Speaker 2: to him coming out of retirement or something?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: You know, it's probably just him being sad and sending
Speaker 2: a subliminal message about it on social media, which most
Speaker 2: of the world does from time to time.
Speaker 3: Right, Like, see him making a reference to all of
Speaker 3: this this week and during whatever games he ends up
Speaker 3: covering for the NFL. Maybe that's obvious.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't feel bad for him, But I
Speaker 2: mean the situation itself like is sad, So I guess
Speaker 2: it I am, But like Tom Brady's one of the
Speaker 2: people on the planet that like there's not much that
Speaker 2: could happen to where I wouldn't or where I would
Speaker 2: feel bad for him, because he's got everything right, Like
Speaker 2: the guy is, he's got it all.
Speaker 3: He's not as unlikable as a Lebron James, though I
Speaker 3: feel like maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, Uh, And Lebron is just Bron at
Speaker 2: Lebron has no self awareness. That's where and That's That's
Speaker 2: what I think really hurts him. Like he's not a criminal,
Speaker 2: he's not controversial. He is he is at times, I think,
Speaker 2: really just trying to talk. You know. I think he
Speaker 2: does the political stuff from time to time just for attention.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think he does it because he you know,
Speaker 2: is super passionate or cares. But you know what, do
Speaker 2: I know? Brady really was unlikable because he was so
Speaker 2: good and he was part of a dynasty and there
Speaker 2: was allegations of like they cheated and broke rules and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and you know, but.
Speaker 3: Like Mahomes now is way more unlikable than Brady ever
Speaker 3: was as a human being, you think, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think Patrick Mahomes embraces being the villain where Tom
Speaker 3: Brady likes to look like the good guy even though
Speaker 3: people just like him.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know what you mean, because Mahomes is
Speaker 2: certainly a villain in regards to Like, if you're not
Speaker 2: a Chiefs fan, you want to see Mahomes lose and
Speaker 2: you feel like he gets all the calls by the reps.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, like Patrick Mahomes's image is like
Speaker 2: squeaky clean, you know what I mean? Like I mean,
Speaker 2: and honestly, Brady's is other than like if he did
Speaker 2: in fact, he put to flate Gate in motion, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like if he's the one who
Speaker 2: you know sped up, you know that whole thing, and
Speaker 2: you know, and he cries to the reps a lot,
Speaker 2: but like's if that's the worst thing about you as
Speaker 2: far as your image, then you know, you're just one
Speaker 2: of many athletes. I think crying to the reps in
Speaker 2: it working is what really makes people hate you. But
Speaker 2: I think Steph Curry and Mahomes are in the same
Speaker 2: ballpark as far as guys that are clearly really really
Speaker 2: good and you don't like him, but there's not It's
Speaker 2: not like Raymond Green is not the star that Curry
Speaker 2: or Mahomes or Lebron or Brady is, but like he's
Speaker 2: the perfect villain in sports, right, Like he's a dirty player, yes,
Speaker 2: and like doesn't hide it with you know, And Curry's
Speaker 2: not as successful as Mahomes in my opinion, so therefore,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And maybe I'll feel differently after Mahomes is older and yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe not the the guy that he is.
Speaker 2: Right now, I want to be able to look at
Speaker 2: a villain in sports and say, yeah, I know why
Speaker 2: I don't like him on the field or the corp.
Speaker 2: But I also want to know that he's a bad guy.
Speaker 2: And sometimes as I've grown and realized, you know, these
Speaker 2: are human beings that sometimes that's a force for me
Speaker 2: because they're really not bad guys. But anyways, we're at
Speaker 2: a time. Go h Minnesota State