Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: As we discussed, once we get to the actual college
Speaker 2: basketball season, which is a long way away considering the
Speaker 2: most recent season just ended a little bit over a
Speaker 2: week ago, like, once we get there, we won't talk
Speaker 2: about these silly way too early, ridiculously early. I mean,
Speaker 2: are they even considered off season rankings? Again, we talked
Speaker 2: about them right after the National Championship game, because again,
Speaker 2: we love college basketball more than any this market for sure,
Speaker 2: So if there is somebody that's going to make at
Speaker 2: least something of it, it would be us. But I
Speaker 2: talked about it because I feel like it just will
Speaker 2: really remind you, and it's nice to be reminded at
Speaker 2: all times that, man, we were dead for a little while,
Speaker 2: but man we got some real momentum right now with
Speaker 2: Pat Kelcey. So again I'm always going to feel the
Speaker 2: need to throw the disclaimer on there that like, this
Speaker 2: doesn't prove anything, it doesn't mean anything, and we won't
Speaker 2: even probably remember where Louisville or Kentucky are ranked in
Speaker 2: these college basketball rankings for the next season. Whenever we're
Speaker 2: sitting here in mid April. But Louisville there's been a
Speaker 2: little bit of an adjustment. I think they were at
Speaker 2: number three initially in Jeff Borzello's top twenty five rankings
Speaker 2: for ESPN. They've now moved to four. And it's not
Speaker 2: because of any you know, it's not because of anything
Speaker 2: that's changed with Louisville. It's just because other teams have
Speaker 2: made some additions. And I don't even know who it was,
Speaker 2: but one team has jumped ahead of Louislle. I can't
Speaker 2: think of which one was it was, actually, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was Texas Tech. They got back JT.
Speaker 2: Toppin, which was a big deal, and then there was
Speaker 2: another player they added via transfer that I guess bumped
Speaker 2: them ahead of Louisville. So yeah, in fact, Texas Tech
Speaker 2: went from twenty two to number three, so they did
Speaker 2: some real work in the portal and elsewhere. Actually, let's
Speaker 2: just run through this really quickly. I know again, these
Speaker 2: aren't These are probably going to change from now until
Speaker 2: I don't know next week, because obviously there's still players
Speaker 2: going in the portal that will end up with good
Speaker 2: teams and certainly give them a better outlook for next year,
Speaker 2: so these will probably these will probably change weekly, but
Speaker 2: right now, Houston is still sitting at number one in
Speaker 2: ESPN's rankings. They bring back a lot from this past season,
Speaker 2: and obviously they brought in some good transfers as well.
Speaker 2: Papa Isaacs at Creighton. That's their big addition. So Houston
Speaker 2: number one, purduees at number two, and it's really I mean,
Speaker 2: purduees bringing back the same team and adding a transfer
Speaker 2: from South Dakota State. And yeah, they were good last year,
Speaker 2: they made the Sweet sixteen, But I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like when Purdue is not really doing anything to get
Speaker 2: better as far as additions, and everybody else is making,
Speaker 2: you know, making moves to seemingly get.
Speaker 3: Better from a year ago.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not saying Purdue is trash, but
Speaker 2: when everybody else is making moves to get better and
Speaker 2: they're bringing back really the same team that you know
Speaker 2: wasn't elite, I don't know, putting them number two seems
Speaker 2: a little off to me, But then again, Matt Painter's
Speaker 2: just different.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Whenever we looked at all the Sweet sixteen matchups, Purdue
Speaker 2: was the only team that had their five starters in
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen that every single starter started.
Speaker 3: Their career at Purdue and was still there.
Speaker 2: So as mentioned, Texas Tech number three, Louisville number four,
Speaker 2: Yukon number five BYU. They've jumped up to number six
Speaker 2: here because not only do they have some momentum coming
Speaker 2: off of last year, they also have the number one
Speaker 2: player in America AJ deband Stup. And then they also
Speaker 2: bring in rob Wright, Robert Wright, the third I should say,
Speaker 2: from Baylor, who is one of their better players last year,
Speaker 2: which we need to get to Baylor coming up in
Speaker 2: a moment.
Speaker 3: Promise we will.
Speaker 2: But Michigan's at number seven, Cali Perry and Arkansas at
Speaker 2: number eight, Kentucky at number nine, and then Duke at
Speaker 2: number at number ten, So there you have it, and
Speaker 2: then Auburn's at number eleven. But with Baker Mazara now
Speaker 2: in the portal, may maybe they drop off. And if
Speaker 2: you know, if for some reason these signs that people
Speaker 2: are you know, or I guess the dots that people
Speaker 2: are trying to connect as far as the timing here
Speaker 2: with Baker Mazara going to the portal, with that, if
Speaker 2: he did end up popping for Louisville, which I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he will again. That's all that is is. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's probably even not even fair to call it speculation,
Speaker 2: because I think even speculating on it is a real
Speaker 2: force at this point. And for those who missed it
Speaker 2: in the first hour and maybe aren't paying attention to it.
Speaker 2: Chad Baker Mazzara the twenty six year old, and I'm
Speaker 2: not exaggerating at this time. He's twenty six years old.
Speaker 2: He is coming back to college somehow for another year
Speaker 2: of eligibility. He had signed some kind of agreement with
Speaker 2: Auburn as far as nil, but then a week later
Speaker 2: he's decided to enter the portal. And he was in
Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic last week with Caseon Pryor vacationing. And
Speaker 2: those two guys were teammates at their junior college level.
Speaker 2: So the the speculation here is essentially, well, he was
Speaker 2: all in an Auburn and then he goes on vacation
Speaker 2: with his former juco teammate who seemingly is coming back
Speaker 2: to Louisville. Louisville doesn't look to be in great shape
Speaker 2: really at all for Nate a Mint.
Speaker 3: Maybe this guy takes that spot. No clue if that's
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 2: But if it does, that'll probably bump up Louisville, no joke,
Speaker 2: to probably number I mean, I think it would probably
Speaker 2: put him ahead of Texas Tech, and it should put
Speaker 2: him ahead of Purdue. I mean again, and I'm not
Speaker 2: saying I think Louisville will be the second best team
Speaker 2: in the country if that's the case. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: if we're going off of how Jeff Borzelo at ESPN
Speaker 2: has these rankings put together, now, I would just say
Speaker 2: that would be a huge addition and Louisville would bump up.
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Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned.
Speaker 2: The regret that I would imagine Scott Drew has to have.
Speaker 2: I talked about that towards the end of the three
Speaker 2: o'clock hour, and I just really, you know, everybody's different.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was in looking back the times that
Speaker 2: Scott Drew did turn down other jobs to stay at Baylor,
Speaker 2: like that alone is telling and you kind of feel
Speaker 2: like last year when he turned down both Kentucky and Louisville.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's ultimately like him saying I'm content with
Speaker 2: staying at Baylor forever because that was the time to strike.
Speaker 2: I also, I don't think he was ever off for
Speaker 2: the job, but he wanted Indiana at one point. I mean,
Speaker 2: Jeff Goodman said as much, and Indiana apparently was a
Speaker 2: job that Goodman at some point thought that Drew would take.
Speaker 2: But he ended up getting two big opportunities to leave Baylor.
Speaker 2: And I thought timing was good for him last year
Speaker 2: because he'd won a champion national Titland twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: and the likelihood of doing that again at Baylor is
Speaker 2: almost impossible. And you also have to keep in mind
Speaker 2: he did that in a year where college basketball, like
Speaker 2: everything in the world was weird because we were trying
Speaker 2: to get back to normal life when a pandemic hit.
Speaker 2: So he turned down both those jobs, stayed at Baylor,
Speaker 2: and he had a really I mean, I remember gassing
Speaker 2: up this Baylor roster because they brought back some good
Speaker 2: players and then they brought in Nord Shadowmere, who of
Speaker 2: course was a Final four player at Miami previously, Jeremy
Speaker 2: Roach from Duke, not to mention VJ. Edgecombe the best
Speaker 2: freshman in the country outside of Cooper Flag Rob Wright.
Speaker 2: The third Langston Love is transferred in from I'm sorry
Speaker 2: Langston Love. I think was a was a returning player.
Speaker 2: So again I thought baylorud be really good this year.
Speaker 2: They barely got in the tournament as an eight or
Speaker 2: nine seed. The only win they had we're talking about
Speaker 2: was a buzzer beater when they beat Rick Patino in
Speaker 2: Saint John's in November. And I think when it comes
Speaker 2: to like, they weren't terrible, but when it comes to
Speaker 2: teams that just from a personnel standpoint, should have been
Speaker 2: a lot better. To me, I don't think there's a
Speaker 2: team that would be higher on that list than Baylor.
Speaker 2: So I don't bring this up to say that his season.
Speaker 2: That was a dud, losing the duke in the second round,
Speaker 2: like that's the reason he has regret. But as it
Speaker 2: stands right now on April seventeenth, Scott Drew is in
Speaker 2: the same position that Pat Kelcey and Mark Pope were
Speaker 2: in last year, where he does not have a single
Speaker 2: player on his team, not a one. And yeah, that
Speaker 2: at times can be a good mon I don't think
Speaker 2: I think that's ever a good thing. Sometimes there's an
Speaker 2: obvious explanation like Louisville, Kentucky situation last year, but you
Speaker 2: got to go buy all new players and Baylor, I
Speaker 2: mean that's always why everybody thought he'd leave Baylor, because yes, Baylor,
Speaker 2: they got some Texas Oil money, but like it's Waco, Texas,
Speaker 2: Like they don't have a resources. They just built a
Speaker 2: brand new arena and I think it seats like seven
Speaker 2: thousand people. So the likelihood of Baylor having the kind
Speaker 2: of resources needed to bounce back with a completely new
Speaker 2: team and be competitive at the top of the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: I think it's insanely, insanely unrealistic. So to know that
Speaker 2: like next year they're probably going to have like a
Speaker 2: rebuilding year.
Speaker 3: If that's even a thing anymore.
Speaker 2: Like I just had a hard time thinking that Scott
Speaker 2: Drew will not look back and think like, man, I
Speaker 2: made a mistake. Timing was there and I didn't take advantage,
Speaker 2: and he would have been a better fit, I think,
Speaker 2: at Kentucky than Louisville.
Speaker 3: And I never really thought Louisville one.
Speaker 2: I don't think he would have taken the Louisville job,
Speaker 2: And I think what happened is just my opinion on it.
Speaker 3: I think Louisville wanted it to.
Speaker 2: Be seen as in the early stages of the process
Speaker 2: that they were going to swing big and see what happens.
Speaker 2: They never actually offered him the job, and maybe because
Speaker 2: they knew right away he would never come here, and
Speaker 2: they knew what it would cost, or they knew what
Speaker 2: it would cost to get him, and if you paid
Speaker 2: him what he would need as far as a base
Speaker 2: salary to come from Baylor, Like he had no buyout,
Speaker 2: which is wild, but he was going to need a big,
Speaker 2: big paycheck in order to come to Louisville or Kentucky
Speaker 2: for that matter, at Baylor where he just won a
Speaker 2: national championship, and really it's his program. So I think
Speaker 2: UFL was smart and realized we can get somebody for
Speaker 2: a fraction of what it would cost to get him,
Speaker 2: and money that we have around, we can let that
Speaker 2: new coach wherever we hire. It was Pat Kelsey. He
Speaker 2: can use that money and go go get players. And
Speaker 2: he did and it worked. But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't think he's a phony, like I think he is
Speaker 2: a man of faith, and I don't think that he
Speaker 2: does that just to look like a good guy. I
Speaker 2: think that's genuinely who he is. I think he's been
Speaker 2: in this industry long enough to where if he was
Speaker 2: a phony, and you know, he just talked about God
Speaker 2: and his faith and his family just to sound like
Speaker 2: he was a nice guy, I think people would know that.
Speaker 2: But it does appear that his family was a big
Speaker 2: factor and they didn't want to leave Waco. That's where
Speaker 2: his kids grew up. Again, he's a made man there,
Speaker 2: but he lost to everybody. And I just don't like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they'll they can like maybe in a few years they're
Speaker 2: really good again. But Baylor and really Scott drew as
Speaker 2: a coach, like not many can say they have a
Speaker 2: national title right now. But Scott, who's done this long
Speaker 2: time to where way more seasons of him being a
Speaker 2: head coach at Baylor are forgettable or you know, frankly
Speaker 2: not good than seasons like he had in twenty and nineteen,
Speaker 2: twenty and twenty one. And trust me, it wasn't as
Speaker 2: if Louisville could get Scott Drew. I would have said, no,
Speaker 2: don't do it. But I remember, like, yeah, he's a
Speaker 2: good coach. And men, if you can go hire a
Speaker 2: sitting coach that's got a title on his res you'd
Speaker 2: be foolish not to do it. But some of these coaches, man,
Speaker 2: they tell you who they are, that with you know,
Speaker 2: eighteen years, and then they do something successful and it's
Speaker 2: worth praise, like it happened, Like it's not like it
Speaker 2: doesn't count, but it's an outlier in a major way.
Speaker 3: And I know it.
Speaker 2: He inherited a Baylor was a mess and it was
Speaker 2: viewed as the biggest rebuild ever because of I mean
Speaker 2: quite literally, they had a player kill another player and
Speaker 2: like a coach try to cover it up like that
Speaker 2: really happened. By the way, really good documentary on that
Speaker 2: whole thing on Showtime, if you guys ever want to
Speaker 2: check it out.
Speaker 3: It is I think everybody knows.
Speaker 2: The story, but the documentary shares like every little detail
Speaker 2: about the investigation and the unanswered questions that still remain,
Speaker 2: and like the fact that Dave Bliss didn't end up
Speaker 2: in pre I mean, it's it's wild. But anyways, Scott Drew,
Speaker 2: let's just take out his first you know, his first
Speaker 2: five six years. Clearly they were rebuilding in a major
Speaker 2: way when that really was a thing. You didn't have
Speaker 2: the poorly, he didn't have nil, so you had to
Speaker 2: Really it was gonna take some time. But he went
Speaker 2: to the tournament for the first time in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight and then NIT. Then he made the Elite
Speaker 2: eight in twenty ten, no postseason in twenty eleven, another
Speaker 2: Elite eight in twenty twelve, NIT in thirteen, Sweet sixteen,
Speaker 2: and fourteen Round of sixty four. Two straight years Sweet
Speaker 2: sixteen and twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. N twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: he won one game in the tournament in went twenty
Speaker 2: and fourteen overall, and then they were really really good,
Speaker 2: Like they might no joke, they might have gone back
Speaker 2: to back had had the tournament taken place in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: They were twenty six and four. It was them dating,
Speaker 2: and it was a weird year and it's a forgetable
Speaker 2: year because all of a sudden it just ended, and
Speaker 2: all of our tension was on, like are we all
Speaker 2: going to die? What's this coronavirus? But there were teams
Speaker 2: that might have actually like we might have had our
Speaker 2: first random title winner because Dayton was loaded with Obi
Speaker 2: toppin San Diego State was really good too, if you
Speaker 2: remember Florida State Leonard Hamilton, that was his best team
Speaker 2: among the many good teams he had, and like they
Speaker 2: never it just ended. So that was when it really
Speaker 2: got on a run. But since I mean since winning
Speaker 2: a national championship, he's not made it past the round
Speaker 2: of thirty two, which again that doesn't mean he sucks,
Speaker 2: but for Kentucky and Louisville to really fully pursue him,
Speaker 2: I think more than anything that speak clearly Kentucky was
Speaker 2: looking for an experienced coach. Initially they wanted both Hurley
Speaker 2: and obviously Scott Drew. And when it comes to like
Speaker 2: guys that have that on their resume, they've done it
Speaker 2: a long time, They've they've made at least one or
Speaker 2: two big runs in the tournament. Like the dudes who
Speaker 2: really made a mark on the sport for decades, not
Speaker 2: many of them are still doing this. Like Scott Drew
Speaker 2: was the guy that you'd think, well, he just won
Speaker 2: a title a few years ago, why would he ever leave? Well,
Speaker 2: he's a Baylor, That's why. And I would say to
Speaker 2: Scott Drew, now, dude, that's why you leave Baylor whenever
Speaker 2: the opportunity to go to a place like Louis Wi,
Speaker 2: Kentucky comes up, because you're a Baylor and like the
Speaker 2: likelihood of you sustaining the level of success you had
Speaker 2: was just not realistic. And maybe he's content with that.
Speaker 2: But now he's got to start completely over because VJ.
Speaker 2: Edgecomb's going to the NBA, Omir, Jeremy Roach, Jay Nunn,
Speaker 2: all those guys are out of eligibility finally, and then
Speaker 2: they've got four guys that are in the portal currently,
Speaker 2: Rob Wright, who was another big time freshman with VJ. Edgecomb,
Speaker 2: he's left. He's gone to BYU. He's going to make
Speaker 2: over a million. And then Langston Love transferred to Georgetown
Speaker 2: to play Fred Cooley. So, I mean, I know rosters
Speaker 2: are turning over like crazy this day and age, but
Speaker 2: I do think if you really consider Baylor and their situation,
Speaker 2: their head coach, this is a to me, it's if
Speaker 2: I was a Baylor fan, this would be an all like,
Speaker 2: this wouldn't be okay, everybody's gone, We're good now, we'll
Speaker 2: just start over. Like I think, it's an alarming sign
Speaker 2: that you know, and really, more than anything, it's just
Speaker 2: proof that like Baylor was not sustainable, and that's not
Speaker 2: Scott Drew's fold necessarily, but like Baylor being you know,
Speaker 2: a top tier program in this new world, it can
Speaker 2: happen every now and then, but like not consistently. All right,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be in place to try to combat
Speaker 2: the fake injuries that are clearly happening as a strategic move,
Speaker 2: I think this is the best thing you can do
Speaker 2: as far as really holding people accountable. And you know,
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Speaker 3: So we'll get to that.
Speaker 2: Also, I think there's a little bit of a hypocrisy
Speaker 2: here with Mark Stoops as far as a roster edition
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Speaker 2: That's right, Coffee and Company rolling along here on a
Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon. I mean, I wasn't going to bring this up,
Speaker 2: but because I had to hesitate there to tell you
Speaker 2: what day it is, which I'm sure you knew that
Speaker 2: it is Thursday, but I did not because I had
Speaker 2: the ultimate like punch to the gut as far as morale,
Speaker 2: because for some I don't know how I did it,
Speaker 2: but somehow I woke up this morning. It was like
Speaker 2: three forty five, and uh, I didn't wake up to
Speaker 2: start the day. I wake up, woke up because I
Speaker 2: had to use the restroom, and I go back to bed,
Speaker 2: get my phone out, lay back in bed, and for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, I just thought it was Friday.
Speaker 3: I got up.
Speaker 2: Oh no, So I got up, got the kids dressed
Speaker 2: for school in daycare, I hit the road and come
Speaker 2: back to the crib. Got some stuff I need to
Speaker 2: do before I head out and venture into the office.
Speaker 2: And it was probably about eleven fifteen on Interstate sixty
Speaker 2: five when it hit me it's Thursday, not Friday, Son.
Speaker 5: Of a bitch.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean, just to be robbed of that
Speaker 2: of that feeling because Friday's Friday is a vibe.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, there's nothing on.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on now, Friday.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I just feel bad for your Yeah, I look.
Speaker 2: He again, you know I'm not I'm bringing it up
Speaker 2: for sympathy, But again, what do they say? Uh? God
Speaker 2: gives his toughest battles to his toughest soldiers, right, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like a lot of people wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to handle that like I am.
Speaker 3: But I mean I.
Speaker 5: Could just see that extra pep in your step. You're
Speaker 5: getting the kids ready, you're ready to start the day,
Speaker 5: you have your daily Thornton's trip, You're driving on.
Speaker 2: In oh I stopped at Thornton's left, I walked out
Speaker 2: of Thornton's. I bet everybody saw me and said, look
Speaker 2: at that smirk. That guy thinks it's Friday. That guy
Speaker 2: thinks it's Friday. Do we have to tell him?
Speaker 5: Well, as long as you didn't tell anyone that you
Speaker 5: ran into have a good weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was deflating, is what it was.
Speaker 2: But you know, I keep trucking along. You know, nothing
Speaker 2: could keep me down because Thursday's kind of the new Friday, right.
Speaker 4: I mean absolutely, it's pre Friday's right day.
Speaker 5: I've been loving in my short years as being in
Speaker 5: thirties that I love when it's weekend time and like
Speaker 5: I'm at a store or I'm just passing by somebody
Speaker 5: or just having a brief interaction telling them to have
Speaker 5: a good weekend, because like it's the start of the weekend,
Speaker 5: you know, like it's Friday. The vibes are high. You
Speaker 5: probably just made someone's day by saying it. So like everybody, everybody,
Speaker 5: as bad as humanity can be all the time, we
Speaker 5: are all united on a Friday.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I know there are some people who their
Speaker 2: schedule is weird and it's just whatever they got to
Speaker 2: do to make ends meet. Right, Maybe their job makes
Speaker 2: it to where the days that they're off or not
Speaker 2: a Friday, Saturday. Maybe it's like a Monday, Tuesday or whatever.
Speaker 2: I know, there's some folks that have worked at ups
Speaker 2: for a long time. A couple of my friends that me,
Speaker 2: they they did you have that schedule? No, do you
Speaker 2: know what schedule I'm talking about? To where like Monday
Speaker 2: was part of their weekend. Yeah, like Sunday through Thursday
Speaker 2: or No, I never had a work so I was.
Speaker 2: I was fortunate to be Monday through So you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you make the most of it. But I
Speaker 2: think you'd be lying to me if you told me like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I prefer it this way. No, you don't, because when
Speaker 2: everybody's collectively off, it's it's you know, it's your downtime,
Speaker 2: it's it's yeah. And look, the song is a hit,
Speaker 2: and it's a cliche for sure. By now, But it's
Speaker 2: also absolutely freaking true. Everybody's working for the weekend. That's right,
Speaker 2: that's what you're building up for, you know. So I
Speaker 2: thought it was Friday.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: But you know what that means, like the joy because again,
Speaker 2: Friday is the best day of the week, which I've
Speaker 2: always found that kind of like, I can't fight it.
Speaker 3: Friday is my favorite day.
Speaker 2: But it's also a work day, but it kind of
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it, you know what I mean, like Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes I have to do like sometimes we
Speaker 2: work games and stuff, but again I'm very lucky to
Speaker 2: wear what I do truly doesn't.
Speaker 3: Feel like a job like work.
Speaker 2: But overall, the fact that Friday is still a regular
Speaker 2: work day for just about everybody, and yet it feels
Speaker 2: as good as any is any day of the weekend,
Speaker 2: I mean, at least for me, and I know I'm
Speaker 2: not alone. Like that just speaks to how special Friday is.
Speaker 2: So what's going to be great tomorrow is that at
Speaker 2: least for you know, five six hours, I was, I was,
Speaker 2: I was, I was in delusional thinking it was Friday.
Speaker 3: But then tomorrow it's really gonna be Friday, and it's
Speaker 3: gonna be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to have to fill in two days
Speaker 4: in a row. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: And we get out of here early because the bats
Speaker 2: come on at So I mean, it's all it's all
Speaker 2: working out.
Speaker 3: It's all working out for us, all right.
Speaker 2: So the faking a cramp or faking an injury in
Speaker 2: college football, I feel like it's been a thing for
Speaker 2: like ever, I really do, And it became such an
Speaker 2: obvious thing that like, I don't think many people were
Speaker 2: that bent out of shape about it because it just
Speaker 2: became part of the sport that you know, hey, if
Speaker 2: you want to slow a team down, fall down. And overall,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: There's a level of like, that's really that that's low class.
Speaker 3: How could you fake? How could you act like you're
Speaker 3: hurt when you're not.
Speaker 2: That's because in a way, it is kind of like
Speaker 2: an awful thing to do, especially if you know you've
Speaker 2: got people out there running to help you that are worried,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, you're just doing it.
Speaker 3: Because your coach told you to fall.
Speaker 2: And there have been some examples of like there's no
Speaker 2: way anybody could ever like you can't prove it, But
Speaker 2: there have been some real visual evidence that shows like
Speaker 2: you're not like you clearly looked over to the sideline
Speaker 2: your you know, linebacker coach told you to, you know,
Speaker 2: act like you were dying, and sure enough they showed
Speaker 2: the replay. After looking at your coach on the sideline,
Speaker 2: you would have thought there was a sniper in the
Speaker 2: nosebleed section that just took you out because you're falling,
Speaker 2: I mean, because you fell down. So it became a real,
Speaker 2: you know issue where people were just bitching about it,
Speaker 2: and maybe I'm sure still people still were and are,
Speaker 2: but I just think it literally became part of college
Speaker 2: football and that's not a good thing. So thankfully they
Speaker 2: are doing something to hold you accountable if you, you know,
Speaker 2: take advantage of literally knowing that if you were a
Speaker 2: hurt player out here playing a physical game, yeah we're
Speaker 2: going to stop the game because we're worried about your health.
Speaker 3: I mean, the more I think.
Speaker 2: About it, it just became so acceptable. But it is
Speaker 2: really a blame thing to do in all aspects. I know,
Speaker 2: I maybe sound like a you know, an old man,
Speaker 2: get off my lawn kind of stuff, but anyways, here's
Speaker 2: here's what's here is the new rule to combat these
Speaker 2: fake injuries that the NSABA announced. If medical personnel are
Speaker 2: forced to enter the field of play to evaluate an
Speaker 2: injured player after the ball is spotted by the officiating crew,
Speaker 2: the player's team will be charged to time out. If
Speaker 2: that team doesn't have any remaining timeouts, a five yard
Speaker 2: delay of game penalty is going to be assessed. I
Speaker 2: think this holds you accountable. And let's be real, in
Speaker 2: certain situations, depending upon where you are in the game,
Speaker 2: maybe you realize we're really vulnerable right now. We will
Speaker 2: we will, we'll burn a time out because we'll we
Speaker 2: got to stop them, meaning they're they're going. Because it
Speaker 2: really comes down to just trying to slow a team down.
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is. That that that became, and
Speaker 2: really it becomes such it becomes such a component to
Speaker 2: college football gamesmanship and competitiveness that if you're a head
Speaker 2: coach not utilizing that to slow a team down, you're
Speaker 2: kind of not doing your job. So this this won't
Speaker 2: eliminate it all together. There still will be it occasionally.
Speaker 2: I think a coach that will say, we'll live with
Speaker 2: the five yard delay a game because we just we
Speaker 2: we got to slow them down.
Speaker 3: So I think this is good news.
Speaker 2: And I really think this is not like because because
Speaker 2: the NCAA is kind of in a tough spot that
Speaker 2: they mean, you don't know for sure if anybody's faking.
Speaker 2: You have a good idea, but like you really don't know,
Speaker 2: and it'd be terrible to, like, you know, implement something
Speaker 2: like Nope, get up, we know you're faking it, and
Speaker 2: then like they try to walk off and you realize, no,
Speaker 2: they're really hurt.
Speaker 3: You got to get them out of their an ambulance.
Speaker 3: So I think it's a good move. I really do.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to sports, that sticking with college
Speaker 2: FOOTBA here, when it comes to sports that I really
Speaker 2: love college basketball, clearly, NFL, college football, really in no
Speaker 2: particular order. I mean, I have more of a passion
Speaker 2: for college basketball, and it's something I really nerd out
Speaker 2: on more than anything else.
Speaker 3: But I love all three of those.
Speaker 2: And when I think of sports and everything that comes
Speaker 2: with it that I enjoy, it's those three NFL, college football,
Speaker 2: college basketball, and then the occasional NBA, I guess or
Speaker 2: maybe in a different life, so with that college football
Speaker 2: it had the way it is such a such a
Speaker 2: thing within the culture in certain areas of America, specifically
Speaker 2: the South, like it's it's a special like college football
Speaker 2: has given us some stories that are so wild but
Speaker 2: great that like no other sport could give us, and
Speaker 2: I think this is one of them. So obviously the
Speaker 2: biggest news in the last week in college football has
Speaker 2: been Nico say it Austin.
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 5: Nico Yama, Lama Yama, Nico Yama Layava.
Speaker 4: Yama, Layava.
Speaker 3: Yes, I got it here. That is a yah, okay yah.
Speaker 2: So his whole holdout that of course led to uh,
Speaker 2: led to him basically being booted. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if and by the way, how I do love
Speaker 2: I mean, the the insane spend zone here like there's
Speaker 2: no way, like let me let me back up, I'm
Speaker 2: spending my wheels here, not making any sense because I
Speaker 2: didn't really, I mean, I'm speechless because it just the
Speaker 2: gall from the Nico family to act like this wasn't
Speaker 2: about money is insulting to society that you would think
Speaker 2: anybody would believe your nonsense. So there's no way that
Speaker 2: Nico's dad thinks that anybody believes their side of This
Speaker 2: is the actual situation and the way it went down
Speaker 2: I mean, they want you to think that it wasn't
Speaker 2: about the money. It was the offense, or it was
Speaker 2: the personnel, but definitely not the money. Definitely one of
Speaker 2: those two had nothing to do with money. Like I
Speaker 2: think that makes them look as bad as anything. Like
Speaker 2: just say it was about money and you, I mean,
Speaker 2: you didn't even have to come out and say you
Speaker 2: played your hand wrong in man, you screwed your son,
Speaker 2: but like to double down as if it wasn't about money,
Speaker 2: while last week trying to make you know, trying to
Speaker 2: ruin the career of a young reporter who actually was
Speaker 2: right and stuck to their guns. And I don't know
Speaker 2: much about Pete Nako's he's at on three Sports, and
Speaker 2: I think he's like twelve years old.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I doubt he's that young, But like, have
Speaker 2: you ever seen this guy Austin, Look up, Look up
Speaker 2: Pete Nakos. He's on three sports is and he does
Speaker 2: good works. He's the on three Sports transfer portal guy
Speaker 2: for both college basketball and college football.
Speaker 3: But he's a young young man.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think he looks like he's like
Speaker 2: if you told me he was thirteen, I would believe it.
Speaker 3: Let me know when you find him.
Speaker 2: But anyways, he reported on it stuck to his guns
Speaker 2: and I do a great move by who is it?
Speaker 3: Shannon?
Speaker 2: I can't think of the guy's name, and it's really
Speaker 2: not important, but I just like when you know, people
Speaker 2: take advantage of good opportunities when it comes to a
Speaker 2: PR bump. And Shannon Terry is the owner of on
Speaker 2: three Sports and he did a public like, you know,
Speaker 2: gave a contract extension and a raise to young Pete
Speaker 2: Nacos and you know.
Speaker 3: They had video footage of it.
Speaker 2: And it's because look, this guy got called out by
Speaker 2: Nico's dad that he was lying, and he was calling
Speaker 2: him names like being really childish and just vile. I
Speaker 2: mean with some of the things he called. This young
Speaker 2: reporter looks very young. I told you he's thirteen.
Speaker 5: You believe you, right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, So he looks
Speaker 5: like someone's taken their son to take your kids' school day.
Speaker 2: And to be fair to this guy, I mean here
Speaker 2: I am like talking about how you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I can't believe he's even old enough to have this job.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he gets, you know, taken less serious than
Speaker 2: others because of his age. That was me when I'm
Speaker 2: not that way now, but when I first started, I
Speaker 2: mean I remember people telling me like, yeah, like I
Speaker 2: like sports radio, but you're twenty six, how can we relate?
Speaker 2: I'm fifty five. I don't want to listen to you.
Speaker 2: And I get it, you know what I mean Like that,
Speaker 2: So shout out to that guy, and shout out to
Speaker 2: on three for recognizing that he broke the biggest story
Speaker 2: that we've had in the off season of college football
Speaker 2: so far, and by the way, the first ever time
Speaker 2: this has happened where a guy held out for more
Speaker 2: money as a college football player in the school after
Speaker 2: making the college football Playoff with said quarterback, they were
Speaker 2: forced to cut ties. So anyways, back to Nico. Clearly,
Speaker 2: Tennessee has a humongous fan based big following to see
Speaker 2: being good is always the reminder that they're massive. They
Speaker 2: have a huge fan base, they care so much. They
Speaker 2: just haven't quite been as good. I mean, they haven't
Speaker 2: been good in a long time in football until Josh
Speaker 2: Heibel got there, and in basketball they've never even made
Speaker 2: a Final four. But like when they're good, they have
Speaker 2: sold out stadiums, like they have a huge fan base
Speaker 2: that cares. In fact, they won the national championship in
Speaker 2: baseball last year College World Series, and that was a
Speaker 2: reminder of how much Knoxville I mean, and really just
Speaker 2: the state of Tennessee. Like they're an army, a big army.
Speaker 2: So this is the story that I just think. It's
Speaker 2: one of the examples of what I cut college football.
Speaker 2: It's just different and it's special. There was apparently a
Speaker 2: let make sure I get this this gentleman's title correct,
Speaker 2: because what a guy. So according to w VLT, a
Speaker 2: CBS affiliate in Knoxville, there's a pastor named Josh Sullivan
Speaker 2: from East Tennessee who was rescued from a kidnapping in
Speaker 2: South Africa during a shootout on Tuesday night.
Speaker 3: Scary situation, right.
Speaker 2: One of the first reports heard from South Africa after
Speaker 2: he was rescued that he was still very upset over
Speaker 2: the Nico situation. A pastor from Tennessee kidnapped in South
Speaker 2: Africa during a shootout and when rescued, instead of you know,
Speaker 2: reflection about life, he's still thinking about Nico holding out
Speaker 2: for money and leaving, which I didn't realize that Nico was.
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you have a quarterback and you're good.
Speaker 2: Fans are gonna love him, but he's apparently a fan favorite,
Speaker 2: like not only because he was good, but like he
Speaker 2: seemed to really like appreciate Knoxville. Think about like the
Speaker 2: way Louisville players this year. You could tell they were
Speaker 2: able to pick up on the fact that they were
Speaker 2: bringing us back to life and they fed off that. Well,
Speaker 2: this guy was was beloved and then you know, Dad
Speaker 2: wanted more money and Night's gone. But is that not
Speaker 2: like a testament to like it's just different. Man, Like
Speaker 2: I make fun of the sec at times for this saying,
Speaker 2: but it's also true. It means more to them because
Speaker 2: it's their life. Literally, I mean, it's this guy almost
Speaker 2: lost his life and instead of just realizing, hey, I
Speaker 2: got a lot to be thankful for, like you know,
Speaker 2: my family, my faith, my church that I'm a pastor
Speaker 2: of guys just thinking about Nico, man, just thinking about
Speaker 2: Nico and how he got away.
Speaker 4: It's a movement. I mean, isn't that.
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Speaker 2: There you go, So little time left here before we
Speaker 2: get to five o'clock. So one of the things I
Speaker 2: wanted to and we are a little bit a little
Speaker 2: bit of a shorter show today because of the Bats game,
Speaker 2: and again, congrats to the Bats. They got they got
Speaker 2: the dub, and obviously you know they needed it, they'd
Speaker 2: lost the first two. So we got some good energy today.
Speaker 2: Nothing better than starting a show when you're delayed because
Speaker 2: of a game and you know that the team won.
Speaker 2: It feels like we're winners too. We're taking We're gonna
Speaker 2: steal some of that success from the from the Bats
Speaker 2: today and I hope that they don't mind. But I
Speaker 2: cannot be the only one that saw early here today.
Speaker 2: I guess more so this morning before noon, about eight
Speaker 2: different national outlets all posting a picture of someone with
Speaker 2: breaking news, and the picture of the person was somebody
Speaker 2: who looks to be, you know, very old, elderly, And
Speaker 2: I'm happy that this wasn't what I thought it was.
Speaker 2: But before reading exactly what the news was, I thought
Speaker 2: they were telling us that Lee Corso was dead. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think, can we say that without like it? I'm
Speaker 2: not making a joke, but like when you see somebody
Speaker 2: of that age that you know, I mean, like that's
Speaker 2: not insensitive, is it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I mean I mean because I understood the context, because
Speaker 5: I saw it come in during lifetime. But even though
Speaker 5: had knowing that, while I was still scrolling, I was
Speaker 5: still seeing the same pictures that you were speaking of,
Speaker 5: and I'm and I just had to keep looking at it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a minute, that does say retired.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and that's what did it.
Speaker 2: I just whenever I go to the for you section
Speaker 2: of Twitter, and I haven't been on Twitter in a
Speaker 2: couple of hours, the algorithm does no sort of like
Speaker 2: I majority of what I follow and try to keep
Speaker 2: up with and engage, I didn't really engage with the content,
Speaker 2: I don't think because if I don't know, I guess
Speaker 2: if you like it, like you hit that heart, that's
Speaker 2: considered engagement. And I guess because I like a lot
Speaker 2: of those things, and then I reference my likes within
Speaker 2: Twitter to really prepare for the show. I guess That's
Speaker 2: why when I go to the for you, I typically
Speaker 2: get things that are in fact for me that I'm
Speaker 2: interested in. But I'm just thinking, oh, like, it wasn't
Speaker 2: as if I thought for a minute he was dead,
Speaker 2: but like, it's the first five tweets I see that
Speaker 2: all came in from like on three sports, CBS, ESPN,
Speaker 2: I mean all the big the big brands breaking this
Speaker 2: news and then it was and I'll give them credit
Speaker 2: because they helped me quickly, you know, eliminate the sadness
Speaker 2: that would have set in because the ON three graphic
Speaker 2: shows the Brutus the Buckeye hugging Corso, and then in
Speaker 2: the graphic they have a green tent at the bottom
Speaker 2: that says retired. It it is said dead, you know, which
Speaker 2: they probably wouldn't have done that, but if you've seen
Speaker 2: some of the like ON three is kind of the
Speaker 2: lame of the of the well. I shouldn't say lame,
Speaker 2: but like because there's some guys I know that work
Speaker 2: there and they do good job, but like I don't know,
Speaker 2: they are probably not yet viewed to have the same
Speaker 2: level of like like the.
Speaker 4: Immate Younger Brothers. They're aw wrong perfect.
Speaker 2: They're aw perfect wrestling because they clearly have good resources
Speaker 2: and they have some good people, but like they try
Speaker 2: to they have they have a database of nil evaluator.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't care what numbers you're crunching or
Speaker 2: what formerly you have. That's a waste of everybody's time.
Speaker 2: There's no way you were able to determine every athlete's
Speaker 2: worth in nil, like you don't know that because I
Speaker 2: could just go ahead and say, well, I got five
Speaker 2: hundred thousand I'm gonna give to this player. You're wrong,
Speaker 2: Like it's just to me, it's a desperation as far
Speaker 2: as a force to try to like know that we have,
Speaker 2: like anybody trying to claim that they have the ability
Speaker 2: to determine certain things like that. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: it's it's almost insulting. But again, no offense to them.
Speaker 2: It's just they're trying to make their mark, right. They're
Speaker 2: not twenty four seven Sports, they're not ESPN, and you
Speaker 2: know they're they're the new guy. And as we talked
Speaker 2: about earlier, they've got the guy who looks like he's thirteen,
Speaker 2: but he's doing good work, so shout out to him.
Speaker 2: So anyways, of course, always going to retire after thirty
Speaker 2: eight seasons, and obviously he is the first person I
Speaker 2: really think of when I think of game Day, and
Speaker 2: I really really love that he's going out like on
Speaker 2: his own, and he had the perfect role I think
Speaker 2: for the last however many years he's been, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of just doing that because like Dick fi tell
Speaker 2: you know, he's clearly had really rough struggles with with
Speaker 2: help and cancer, and you know, it's just been a
Speaker 2: really consistent battle for him for for a long time.
Speaker 2: And I just think it would be such an obvious
Speaker 2: move for Dick Vytell to not be broadcasting games to
Speaker 2: where it would take a lot out of his is
Speaker 2: probably take a lot out of him over overall, but
Speaker 2: like he should be game day he should be the
Speaker 2: game day guy. Because this is gonna sound like I'm
Speaker 2: insulting Dicky V and I'm not. He he's like the
Speaker 2: mascot of college basketball. He's the cheerleader of college basketball.
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds like I'm be littling him,
Speaker 2: but I'm not like he when people who don't maybe
Speaker 2: not as much now because you know, he was away
Speaker 2: for years and he's so much older now, But when
Speaker 2: you weren't into college basketball in the nineties of the
Speaker 2: two thousands like we are around here, when you think
Speaker 2: of college basketball, one of the first people that comes
Speaker 2: to mind for you might have been Dick by Tell
Speaker 2: because he.
Speaker 3: Yo about the baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like that's just you know, it was,
Speaker 2: and it's annoying to some people, but like he helped
Speaker 2: spread the you know, spread college basketball around the people.
Speaker 2: So I just think hearing him on a game makes
Speaker 2: me sad actually, because it's such a force. Now again,
Speaker 2: he's done enough for the sport and for ESPN that
Speaker 2: if that's what he wants to do and they want
Speaker 2: to honor that, good on them, because not a lot
Speaker 2: of people get that courtesy. But anyways, shout out to
Speaker 2: Lee Corso. We're going to retire after this year. And
Speaker 2: I oftentimes forget he coached Louisville. It was long before
Speaker 2: you know, I was alive.
Speaker 3: But did you know that Austin Lee Corso was Louisvill's
Speaker 3: coach at one point?
Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like coach Tom Jackson, I think at
Speaker 2: that time, Humble.
Speaker 4: Bragg, I feel like I've known that for a long time.
Speaker 2: I think that you as somebody who didn't grow up
Speaker 2: in Louisville, but obviously you've always been a Louisville fan,
Speaker 2: like that would be something that really, like, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're telling people in Arizona about Louisville, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Lee Corso used to coaches like that's worth bringing.
Speaker 4: Up, right, Absolutely, I had that in the chamber.
Speaker 3: He was good too, by the way.
Speaker 2: He went twenty eight and eleven overall from nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: nine to nineteen seventy two. So when you think about
Speaker 2: Louisville football, maybe not being on the matt nationally, but
Speaker 2: at least, you know, getting some sustainable success in in
Speaker 2: the late sixties early seventies in the Missouri Valley Conference.
Speaker 2: The man Lee Corso was a part of that.
Speaker 5: Wasn't during Durham during Lamar's Heisman year when we had
Speaker 5: that game against Florida State, and I remember that being
Speaker 5: a big thing was seeing, ah, who's what what what
Speaker 5: mascot had? Is Lee Corso gonna put on? Because he
Speaker 5: had the ties of Florida State. Oh yeah, So I
Speaker 5: remember that being like, dude, he he.
Speaker 3: Was sitting up there. I'm not kidding you. I have goosebumps.
Speaker 3: He was sitting up.
Speaker 2: There and Layla Ali was up there as the celebrity guest,
Speaker 2: and you were right. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people thinking he was going to go Florida State because
Speaker 2: of his affiliation there in some capacity.
Speaker 3: I think he went to school there.
Speaker 2: But he put the cardinal bird head on and like
Speaker 2: they ran on the field, they kicked that thing off
Speaker 2: and we all know what happened that was such a
Speaker 2: such a day, such a such a special.
Speaker 5: That literally happened in the span of like a couple
Speaker 5: of minutes. Once once you put that mascot head on,
Speaker 5: then there was kick off.
Speaker 2: And I didn't I didn't predict that they would win
Speaker 2: the way that they did, but everything about the lead
Speaker 2: up to that, and then in the moment once they
Speaker 2: started kicking their ass, I think we all were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we knew this was gonna have you you know what
Speaker 2: I means. Easy to say that when it's happening. But
Speaker 2: like the Lamar and the Heisman that year, it was
Speaker 2: the perfect storm because he he ended the season the
Speaker 2: year before, putting up numbers that nobody else had in
Speaker 2: the Music City Bowl against against Texas A and M,
Speaker 2: and they were good, Yeah exactly, and that was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this guy's crazy. Well then they play on a Thursday
Speaker 2: night to open up his sophomore season. He has eight touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Then they go on the road to Syracuse and I
Speaker 2: was fortunate to be there. That's where he had that
Speaker 2: That's where and again this was a benefit. It was
Speaker 2: a Friday night, no competition as far as what other
Speaker 2: games you're going to watch, and he lit up Syracuse
Speaker 2: and did what he's now done ever since. But like
Speaker 2: I remember, there was like Robert Griffin, third, Mike Vick,
Speaker 2: like it was appointment viewing. Everybody, get to your TV
Speaker 2: and watch what this guy's doing. It's insane. And then
Speaker 2: that was the lead up. You got Florida State coming
Speaker 2: to town the next week. He won the Heisman then,
Speaker 2: and there was never gonna be anybody in that they
Speaker 2: could do enough to take it from him, because in
Speaker 2: the end, you know, they didn't finish the season strong.
Speaker 2: But whenever you saw the voting, like he won that
Speaker 2: by a landslide, and it was you know, Clemson wanted
Speaker 2: it to be Deshon and they just wanted it because
Speaker 2: Clemson actually had a better season. Lamar was clearly way
Speaker 2: better than Deshon and still is. It's proven out to
Speaker 2: be the case. So all right, we were up against it.
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