WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:05.480 All right, listen up, Caves, I got your assignments riga 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.919 six four three wheeler one four eight not eight oh four, 3 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:13.439 and only you. You need to join host HP and 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.440 Father Alone as they examine one of the greatest sitcoms 5 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.679 in television history, Taxi in Night Mister Walters, a taxi 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:24.760 podcast BANDA zero like your boxing. 7 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:32.799 Record, Frank, mister Walters, We're in. 8 00:00:33.039 --> 00:01:41.280 Way, Welcome back to midnight Viewing. I'm your host, Father Alone. 9 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:44.439 We discussed two particular authors a lot on this show, 10 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:47.480 Harlan Ellison and Stephen King. They've appeared on two or 11 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.760 three anthology series that we've covered. In one case, Ellison 12 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:54.200 adapted King that was Grandma from the Twilight Zone eighty five, 13 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:57.079 and both have made appearances on Tales from the Dark Side. 14 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.319 In fact, later in the series, King will pen his 15 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:03.560 first for the show. The following quote is by Stephen 16 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:06.560 King from the forward to Harlan Ellison's short story collection 17 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.240 Stalking the Nightmare. I'm paraphrasing a bit. King starts with 18 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.360 one of his mother's favorite aphorisms, milk always takes the 19 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.520 flavor of what's next to it in the ice box. 20 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.240 Not a very useful saying. You might think. But I 21 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:21.800 suspect it's not only the reason I'm writing this introduction, 22 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:24.439 but the reason I'm writing it's the way I'm writing it. 23 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:27.479 Does it sound like Harlan Ellison? It does. That's because 24 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.039 I just finished the admirable book which follows. For the 25 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.319 last four days I've been, so to speak, sitting next 26 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.080 to Harlan in the ice box. I'm not copying his style, 27 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.560 nothing as low as that. I have rather taken a 28 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.759 brief impression of his style. If you start your period 29 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:42.960 of hard writing as a teenager, you find yourself writing 30 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:45.719 like whoever you're reading that week your milk, and you 31 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.000 taste like whatever was next to you in the refrigerator 32 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.919 that week. That bit of wisdom came to mind when 33 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.280 thinking about tonight's show for two very good reasons. One, 34 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.000 we're going to be talking wal to wall Stephen King tonight, 35 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.319 and two, what's true about authors or any creative types 36 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.280 might be true of podcasters as well. When this show started, 37 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:07.280 it was released sporadically monthly and then maybe twice a month. 38 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.599 It is now twice weekly. That's a newish development, but 39 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:14.000 a monumental one for me. And now the blame the 40 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.360 horrible shame can be laid at the feet of Tonight's guest. 41 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.879 A Year in Horror is the best horror movie podcast 42 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.280 out there. I do several horror podcasts. I listen to 43 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.800 all the horror podcasts. A Year in Horror is the 44 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:30.240 platonic ideal. The main show is exactly as promised, a 45 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:33.039 thorough investigation into every piece of horror cinema released in 46 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:36.479 a given year, but he also does standalone shows highlighting 47 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.360 every horror project that piques an interest and pulls in 48 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.000 guests from every field, though usually from the world of music, 49 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.479 because he himself is a music man first. He gave 50 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.199 his life to that industry before switching gears and careers 51 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.360 and finding his way back to the one true path horror. 52 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.360 For a podcast to work, it has to be either 53 00:03:55.439 --> 00:04:00.479 informative or entertaining. Is both. He is both. His enthusiasm 54 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.879 and delight for the genre is so palpable, so infectious, 55 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.360 I myself couldn't help but become refocused on the greatest 56 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.599 fiction genre ever created. So if the analogy hasn't been 57 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:14.159 made fucking transparent already, I'm the milk, sitting in the 58 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.439 ice box and soaking up the flavor of mister Paul Waller. 59 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.120 Welcome to Midnight Viewing. 60 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:19.360 Paul. 61 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:26.639 Holy Smokes. That was impressive. Wow, okay, you have the 62 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:31.519 best podcasting voice. I'm so jezoused. I love it. 63 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.240 Thank you, I appreciate that. But those sentiments are all 64 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:39.279 true and all real, and I'm delighted that you've come 65 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.240 to talk with us tonight. In fact, I'm delighted to 66 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.879 be talking about what we're talking about, because I don't 67 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.680 think I've done a podcast where we've discussed the greatest 68 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:52.199 anthology film of all time. This podcast, in general, is 69 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.279 dedicated to anthologies. The granddaddy of them all for me 70 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.040 is Creepshow from nineteen eighty two, directed by George Andrew 71 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.480 Romero and by mister Stephen King. 72 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:12.720 Coming soon, joting tales of horror. 73 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:22.000 Creep show from the author of Carrie the Shining and 74 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:26.480 Coo Joe and the creator of Night of the Living 75 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:34.720 Dead and Dawn of the Dead. You'll scream ghastly gholes, cringe. 76 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:38.959 At weird kids, and shiver at the. 77 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.199 Doings of evil doctors. 78 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:50.639 This design to besxtremely painfulness surveial. 79 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:53.959 Creep show. 80 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:59.879 Will I grab you, grow on you and give you 81 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.959 the creeps. 82 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.839 No, this is going to be an entirely new experience. 83 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.360 Creep Show the most fun you'll ever have being scared. 84 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:33.120 Paul, what is your history with creep Show? 85 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:40.639 It's so long, it's so like every vein in my 86 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.839 body has some Creep Show blood flowing through it. It's 87 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.199 just been with me since, Like my initial stack of 88 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:52.759 vhs is that I bought and I would watch it 89 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.040 again and again and again, as you do as a child. 90 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.800 I can tell you that there was a Nightmare on 91 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.000 Elm Street, there was hell Raiser there, it was creep Show. 92 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.360 And these were ones that would just be like you're 93 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.480 getting from school, what you're going to do, I'm too 94 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.800 far away from my friends, my parents are working. I'm 95 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.399 just going to stick one of these on and it 96 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:16.120 would be like that for not weeks, not months, but years. 97 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:18.680 So yeah, it's just one of those films that I 98 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:20.879 don't need to watch again. It's like that, you know, 99 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.120 people say I Enter Sandman or something. It's like that, 100 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.560 you don't need to watch it again. It's just always there. 101 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.199 Always in the back of your mind. Yes, you know, 102 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.040 I find it funny. I listened to a lot of 103 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:35.199 podcast Poland, but what I find is people guess will 104 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:36.959 come on and they'll say, this is my favorite movie 105 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.439 of all time. I've seen it, like I don't know 106 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.399 ten or fifteen times, and I'm like, you what that what? 107 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.879 I watch movies on a little baby, I'm the interest 108 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.120 what we used to comfort food. It becomes a soundtrack 109 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.800 to my life, just the background like flurry. 110 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.079 It's weird. I like, since I've started doing the podcast, 111 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.560 there have been certain films that you have to rewatch 112 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.920 because for whatever reason, they may not stick with you 113 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.240 even if you watched it a few months back. You'll 114 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.759 need to give it a cursory rewatch and then you 115 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.040 look onto let a box and go, wow, I've watched 116 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.959 that three times in one year, and things like that 117 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.680 that happen. But when you purposefully sit down to watch 118 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.199 something that's completely different, there's a few, and it tends 119 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.600 to be ones that are on YouTube as well. So 120 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.399 if it's late at night, it's like approaching midnight or something, 121 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.759 and there is like this found footage thing. I think 122 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.039 it was the very first found footage movie. It's called 123 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.320 the McPherson Tape or something like that. And even though 124 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.480 I've got the bells and whistles, blu ray. I also 125 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:42.840 know that it's there on YouTube, and I can just 126 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.360 click a button and fall asleep to my fifty minute, amazing, 127 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.919 amazing film and it doesn't matter if I wake up 128 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.440 or just fall asleep, and that's it. I've had the 129 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:52.960 best time. 130 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:55.919 Do you know two things about that are great? Like, 131 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.480 that's the best use of the technology possible, that the 132 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:02.159 utter convenience do to comfort yourself to sleep with the 133 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:05.039 in the loving embrace of horror. 134 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:06.679 But also. 135 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.559 I find myself if I happen upon something I love 136 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.240 on television or streaming somewhere or something, and I own 137 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:20.960 the better version of it, the act of convenience. Considering 138 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.720 how you and I are of similar vintage, I'm guessing 139 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:27.639 I'm a seventy three kid, nineteen seventy three. So there 140 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.799 was a time in our lives where like those videotapes 141 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:36.360 were gold, they were a lifeline because entertainment for us 142 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.679 was as I would say, it's curated, but it really 143 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.200 wasn't curated. It was a bunch of programmers at whatever 144 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.120 television stations you had available to you throwing on whatever 145 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:47.679 they fucking could get on the air. Like at any 146 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.480 given time, so the fact that you can, I could 147 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:56.919 say into my television remote, now play the thing, John 148 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.840 Carpenter's the thing, and it will come on. Oh my god, 149 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.799 what a difference these kids today. 150 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.440 Man. But the awesome thing about that is when you 151 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.399 do that, like you'll know you'd be watching the thing, 152 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.279 and you'll know that as soon as he's poured the 153 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.440 whiskey over the computer, that's where it would cut to 154 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:20.279 ad breaks, you know. So you like because we've just 155 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.919 watched it so many times when I recorded VHS as 156 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:28.080 a kid. It's weird, but that's us, like, and I 157 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.919 don't I'm never ashamed of it. Like when I talk 158 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:34.080 to people at work, you know, I'll go in like 159 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.799 once a week and to make sure they know that 160 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:40.519 I'm alive still, and I'll be like yeah, because it's 161 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.039 very embarrassing if you're in a band that's had any 162 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.960 success at all that your work colleagues we go, oh, 163 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.480 it's the rock star. It's like, well, I can sell 164 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.879 out a venue that holds one hundred and fifty people 165 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.039 in London once a year. You know, I'm not a 166 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:53.600 rock star. 167 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.320 But you know what, like they would can't do a Paul, 168 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.559 They can't do that, so you are a fucking rock star. 169 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.000 Okay, yeah, I'm sure I have. But anyway, it's so 170 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.799 it's excruciating to be there. So what I've started to 171 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.639 do is, because I'm doing this, I will show off. 172 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:11.720 I'll be like, oh, yeah, I get to go to 173 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.279 this film festival or I went to that premiere or 174 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:16.879 something like that. And it's the same thing again, but 175 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:21.879 with movies. But movies are a whole different thing. It's 176 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:24.840 so important to so many people because it's the one 177 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.480 bit of the rights of growing up that we've all 178 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.799 found our favorite movies. You know, It's not something that 179 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.559 you can avoid even if you like grow up and 180 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:36.440 say I don't really like movies. I don't go to cinema, 181 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.279 I don't watch films or anything, you know, Star Wars. 182 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.200 You know, if you're of our age, you know you 183 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.679 know these films, and it's such an essential part of 184 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:48.039 our life. And I never feel ashamed of like presenting 185 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.279 that at my job with my friends anyone that's not 186 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.440 interested in it. I'm obsessed with horror movies. I am obsessed. 187 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.320 I love it. I don't ever want it to end. 188 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.399 And I was when I started this podcast. I was 189 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.799 worried about burnout because I did start by watching three 190 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:07.000 or four a day, and I've sort of winged it 191 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.120 down over the years to two. But still even at 192 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.279 this rate, I'm not going to finish my podcast until 193 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:16.279 I think it's twenty twenty seven, So you know, no, 194 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.919 I've still got years to go with being this hard, 195 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:21.159 isn't it? And I'm embracing it. I can't wait. 196 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.879 I don't you know what. I think that's a modest estimate. 197 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.679 I think you'll actually go beyond it because the level 198 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:30.320 of horror movies or the number of horror movies of 199 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.919 recent you know, it's streaming and all this shit, and 200 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:35.919 people are making their own things and throwing them up 201 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:37.919 on YouTube. You're going to be employed for quite a 202 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.919 while with this year and herror. You'll just be up 203 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:41.840 to date. That's all the year and heart. It'll be 204 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.080 a once a year thing at the end, you know, 205 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:44.879 like a wrap up. 206 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.320 It'll be such a such a relief to do one 207 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.039 of these things a year, Like I honestly, as soon 208 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:55.080 as I finished this, I'm going down to edit for 209 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.320 a couple of hours. And I'm sure you know, I 210 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.799 mean you just said two, you do two a week. 211 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.840 That's that's what that's hard work. 212 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.360 Yeah, it's a lot like and I thought, you know 213 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:08.600 what's funny is the father them alone weekly round Up, 214 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.919 which is just me bullshitting with my dog for twenty 215 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.600 or twenty or so minutes, seems to be the hardest 216 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:17.399 of all of them. Like just picking material, like week 217 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.559 after we anyway, we're not here talk about me. We're 218 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.120 tiring to talk about you. And actually when is your 219 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:25.679 first It was it on VHS? Your first viewing of 220 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:26.240 Creep Show? 221 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.759 It definitely was, Yeah, this is one that wasn't on TV, 222 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.480 and if it was, I definitely missed it. My friends 223 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.960 would talk about it at school in the sort of 224 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:39.720 like have you seen creep Show two? And I was like, right, okay, 225 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:42.159 so we know, we know now roughly when it was 226 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.440 because I hadn't seen it before Creep Show two came out, 227 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.440 because I remember all them posters and it made me 228 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.240 get Creep Show one. But yeah, so with Creep Show 229 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.120 it was a VHS. It was a I think it 230 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.080 was a nice Price one which over here was like 231 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.399 four pounds ninety nine, So yeah, it wasn't like yeah, 232 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.879 so for my I would get ten pounds a week 233 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:04.960 growing up when I was like sixteen seventeen, and that's 234 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:08.559 what that's what I bought. Like, oh man, I just 235 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:13.200 remember being so utterly impressed with Creep Show, and I 236 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.639 don't I was never a comic book fan, so it 237 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.080 wasn't that angle that I fell in love with. I 238 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:21.919 was already an avid Stephen King reader, so I think 239 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.039 it must have been that aspect of it and that 240 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.639 hook that he's in one of these, So yeah, let's investigate. 241 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:28.840 But yeah, I didn't stop. 242 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.039 My experience with Creep Show was in nineteen eighty two. 243 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.840 I was nine years old in an Elmy's department store 244 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.159 with my mother and she deposited me at the little 245 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.399 book section so she could go shopping, and sitting there 246 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:48.159 was the Creepshow comic adaptation, which for some reason was 247 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.559 released months before the film. And if I'm sure you've 248 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.759 seen it every if you haven't read it, everyone go 249 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.960 get it. Artwork by Bernie Wrights, and it is fucking gorgeous. 250 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.720 So I sat and read it cover to cover, read 251 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:03.639 it again, read it again, and on the back it 252 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.879 said now a major motion picture. And I was distraught 253 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:11.480 because I thought I had missed it somehow and but 254 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:14.759 a cousin of mine, my older cousin, Susan, who I 255 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.360 was nine, she was maybe seventeen or eighteen, maybe even older. 256 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:20.159 She had gotten me into Stephen King and horror movies 257 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.919 in general. And she assured me this movie has not 258 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.360 come out yet, but when it does, she would take me. 259 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:29.440 And she did. And so I was there opening weekend 260 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:33.240 for Creep Show at the Revere Showcase Cinemas and they 261 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.200 had in the lobby they had a standy built for it, 262 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.639 and it was a cardboard version of the crate and 263 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:44.360 the sign said what's inside of the Creepshow Crate? In fact, 264 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.840 I got a drinking cup at the fucking concession stand 265 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:53.559 that had the creep on it. I'd sad, yeah, man like. 266 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:58.480 And I became so obsessed with this movie. I bought 267 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.960 every poster you could get of this movie. So we're 268 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:04.399 talking about the one sheet. We're talking about the Jack 269 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:08.879 Cayman designed comic book cover. I'm talking the British Squad. 270 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:11.279 You've seen that one with the with the creep like 271 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.399 pointing at the at the tombstone, right, That's yeah, that's 272 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:17.679 that's Bernie Wrightson is drawing from the comic book just 273 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:20.240 sort of superimposed on that which I love that one that. 274 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:23.080 Have you seen the French subway poster. It's the size 275 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.200 of a wall. It's it's the Joe King character of 276 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.039 the little boy with the voodoo doll sitting on an 277 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:30.559 open creepshow comic with the creep of his hands splayed 278 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:32.919 out somewhere in the credits because it's the French poster, 279 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:35.240 they advertise that there's going to be a creep show 280 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.240 disco on a certain date. I always wondered what went 281 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:43.440 on at the creepshow disco, so you can tell them. 282 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.440 I've got some creep show bona fides. And it is 283 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:49.919 one of those movies where, like you said, do I 284 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:51.480 need to see Star Wars ever again? 285 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:52.240 Not at all. 286 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.759 It plays in my head. I can close my eyes 287 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:56.559 and see it if I really want to. But more 288 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.559 than any other movie, it's creep show for me, and 289 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.039 I I'm seeing that it is for you too. 290 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.799 Yeah, it's so there's not many movies that will work 291 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.960 that way with me or songs that I'm quite happy 292 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.759 if I never see it again. And I've said before 293 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.559 on my show that I'm not going to watch it again, 294 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.839 although I did for this damn it. But I'm not 295 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.039 gonna watch it again until I can get a really 296 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.400 good bells and Whistles four K with all the extras 297 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.799 because I've never gone in on any of the extras 298 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.200 like that, so I don't know all the stuff about it, 299 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:35.799 and it's one of those prized things that I'm just waiting. 300 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:38.480 I'm just gonna wait until it happens. I don't want 301 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:40.720 to push it. I know there's loads of stuff on YouTube, 302 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.440 and every time like that, something will pop up in 303 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:47.160 my feed because it reads your mind and it's like, 304 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:50.119 I don't click on it. Paul, wait, So I'm gonna wait. 305 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:52.240 But yeah, it's going to come one day. 306 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:54.680 Well, once you get those bells and Whistles, you're gonna 307 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.039 be very very happy. If you haven't seen Just Desserts, 308 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.680 the documentary that they have about Creep Show, you no, no, no, 309 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.839 oh my god, Paul Waller, Okay, yeah, that's that's something 310 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:07.559 I'm gonna share my screen right now. We're gonna watch it. 311 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:12.400 No no, no, but okay, look, so you're obviously obsessed with 312 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.440 the movie as I am, so let's put that to 313 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:14.759 a test. 314 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:14.960 Shell. 315 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.599 But you want to take a quiz, oh ship no, 316 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.200 go for it, go for it. Here we go, baby, 317 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.640 I'm gonna ask you for the last I'm gonna the 318 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:27.240 next line. Okay, for example, here we go. 319 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.039 You call, so you fixed it up? 320 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.000 Give me that again? Give me that again? Could you 321 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.440 hear it? I could just hear it. 322 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.319 Yeah, yeah, turn the volume up a bit. 323 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.359 You call my urb bits, so you fixed it on? 324 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:51.160 Nope, ash trade back sick. 325 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:54.440 Yeah, I can't do so bad. 326 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:59.279 We've only got four you're doing well, You've got the chance. Ready. 327 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.400 Okay, we kept. 328 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.960 Right on going, and we didn't complain the cause we 329 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:06.640 were doing what we wanted to do. 330 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.160 And you understand that, well, I don't. 331 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.480 Even know where that's from, Yes you do. I'll play 332 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.279 it again for you. But we kept right on going, 333 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.960 and we didn't complain the cause we were doing what 334 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:20.000 we wanted to do. 335 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.079 And you understand that. 336 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:28.839 It's on the television while mister Jordi Verel is lingering outside. 337 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:34.480 Oh my god, no, this is this is dep cuts. 338 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.839 Well that's how we that's how we were all here. Okay, 339 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:39.839 we're doing them in order of the of the story. 340 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:47.440 So here we go. You know, on a friend Harry's 341 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:53.119 wild about Harry Richard, get it out of here, just 342 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.599 gonting revenge, Harry. 343 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:57.240 Let me play this seat. 344 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.440 No, God damn it, no, all the relatives of his 345 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.200 you ate baked and stuffed at mom Maison, Richard Vickers. 346 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:13.519 He's gonna wicked, wicked, wicked mind. Okay, finally I'm gonna Paul. 347 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.039 I have total fucking faith in you, man, and this one, 348 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:19.000 this one counts for triple the points, so you could 349 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:20.480 possibly win you ready. 350 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.200 I'm sorry, over to Anderson Hall and help me out. 351 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.240 But as you so often say, what would I do 352 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.400 without you? No? 353 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:38.640 Forget, forget, get out of here? What indeed, Henry, what indeed? 354 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:44.240 Clearly I should have watched this more often in recent years. 355 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:47.839 Yeah, man, you know this is one of those movies 356 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:50.240 I can recite from the beginning to end, like every 357 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:53.519 line of the movie, much much to the annoyance of 358 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.200 my many partners over the years. Could you please let 359 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:58.319 me watch the movie? No. 360 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.599 Two minutes was the most stressful two minutes I've had. 361 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.039 That was more stressful than playing in front of five 362 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:13.759 thousand people at festival last November. I was like, that 363 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.960 was nothing compared to that. I mean, Jez Louise, I 364 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:17.799 hate myself. 365 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.440 Oh stop, you did fine. I mean you did terrible, 366 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:24.319 but you don't care. I don't like you any less. 367 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.559 Well, no, I have got to gain something back. You 368 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.160 now have the right to not like me at all. 369 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.720 I'm not sure that that's a possibility. All right, creep Show, 370 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.240 creep Share. Let's talk about the actors of creep Share. 371 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.400 Who stands out to you in this cast? 372 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.079 I mean, I've done a I've done a top five 373 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:53.279 because I didn't want to alienate my favorites and I 374 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:58.200 really wanted to make sure someone got to mention that 375 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:01.960 rarely does and if they do, it's just because of nepotism. 376 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:05.000 So Joe Hill, my number five, is Billy in the 377 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.960 wrap around, like so so very important to making this 378 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:13.519 whole thing work and so believable. And as a kid, 379 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.359 even though I saw it as a team, he was 380 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.799 the one that I was like, yeah, I get that, 381 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.599 I've been in that situation, and I really felt for him. 382 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.319 That's what we're talking about. The wrap around sequence for 383 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:28.039 the movie, which is the young child Joe Hill being 384 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:31.480 scolded by his father to the point of slapping that 385 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.920 wiseacre of a child and then throwing away his comic 386 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.640 book which evidently was a common refrain in the nineteen 387 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.119 fifties with the ec comics. I think a king is 388 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.400 playing into that there in the Centerville, USA, which if 389 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.039 you read the screenplay, that town is named Centreville. You 390 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.319 know it's funny, you know. You and I talked on 391 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:53.400 your show about checking things out virtually via computer with 392 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:58.799 Google Maps and such. But certain things require a pilgrimage. 393 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:02.559 Every pilgrim has his. For me, it's Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So 394 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.720 I went down because of Down of the Dead. Clearly, 395 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:09.960 I made a beeline for the Monroeville Mall, but just 396 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.440 on the outskirts, if you just go looking a little bit, 397 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:16.039 you'll find Carnegie Mellon University, which is Horlick's university here 398 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.279 in Creep Show. So I've been to Amberson Hall. But 399 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.519 more importantly, I visited Billy's house on Creep Show. And 400 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.880 get this, it was the middle of the night and 401 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:28.119