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Speaker 1: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Pony

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Express Radio. I am Paul Fahrenheit, standing in for our

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fearless leader Red Hawk, who is out this week after

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a very long work week. I am joined this evening

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by a bunch of very good friends of mine who

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have decided to be guests with us this evening. So

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first and foremost we have mister Pete Canonez. Welcome back, Pete.

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Speaker 2: Glad to be back, Glad to be.

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Speaker 1: Back, outstanding, thank you. We are also joined by mister Frost.

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How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 2: Doing all right?

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Speaker 3: Could be better, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely correct. And finally we are also joined

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by a good friend of mine mister Cook. How are

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you doing, sir, Doing good? Glad to be on excellent,

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Thank you very much. So, gentlemen, it's it's I don't

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want to say it's been a slower news week because

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it's there's no such thing as a slow news week,

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and Trump too, but it has been a bit less,

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you know, eventful than the last couple of weeks. However,

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there have been some you know, key issues this week,

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and the first one that I wanted to speak to

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and I wanted to bring up is the evergreen issue

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of immigration. Immigration has you know, we all know this.

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It's been the biggest issue of the administration. It's been

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the biggest issue of this club, of this organization, of

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our movement in general. Is just the fact that you

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don't have a country if you don't have borders, and

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if you have a whole bunch of foreign nationals of

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all sorts of varieties, particularly those who get emptied from

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prisons and are in gangs get sent here. This has

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been the biggest issue. And this week, this week there

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was a fight over a particular individual that I guess

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it sort of people came to people's attention when some

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reporter asked Trump while bukel A who's president of Velsavagro,

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was visiting the White House. And so this started this

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huge fight over this guy whose name I don't even recall.

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I know it's something Hispanic and getting him readmitted to

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the United States despite the fact that he was a

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illegal alien, a foreigner, a foreign alien. He was in

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a gang, he was in MS thirteen if I remember correctly,

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and he was convicted of several crimes within the United States,

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not just not even just like you know, his personal crimes.

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So I want to hear what you gentlemen have to

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say about this, this whole issue. I know we're going

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to probably watch the interview with President Bukelly, but before

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we get that started, to you gentlemen have any initial

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thoughts about this.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what the court say, you doesn't belong here.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be of the simple position, weren't they

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trying to throw him out in twenty nineteen and then

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he tried seeking asylum. No, you were here seven years

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and you didn't do anything and they caught you.

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Speaker 2: You go back.

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Speaker 4: To add to that, the reason he was trying to

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claim asylum was because he was afraid of this gang

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called the Eighteenth Street Gang I believe is the name

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of it. That gang was destroyed by President Bakula back

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in like twenty twenty one. So the reason that he

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quote unquote feared for his life no longer exists. His

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home is perfectly safe and habitable for him.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely no, this this this dude was utterly bad news.

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He was you know I I I just just from

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the little bits I've glanced about him, he's almost the

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blotonic ideal of the kind of guy we were trying

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to get rid of. And I know that the a

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great many Democrats try to make a fight over and

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a whole bunch of senators were like flying to El

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Salvador to try to get him back or something like that.

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But I want us to what I would.

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Speaker 5: Like, Kelly should have bu Kelly should have you know,

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when the senators showed up there, you have him a

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tour of Seacott and left it locked him inside. I

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think that where they.

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Speaker 2: Belong he'd be.

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be doing Trump a favor. But I

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I don't know if Trump could could withstand that on

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the international stage. If if you have a third world

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country jailing us senators, I don't know, if you know,

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it doesn't matter what there is, But yeah, I would

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that would something great, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 3: It would be aiding and a betting, uh, a prison

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break that is true.

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Speaker 1: That is true, aiding in a betting, you know. And

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and this is the thing, I don't know if it

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the law. But I believe that there's some kind of

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law that prevents UH, that prevents senators or congressmen or

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something from going overseas and and and doing this sort

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of thing to foreign governments. Do you, Danny, do any

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of you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the one they tried to hit Salcy with.

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I can't remember what the hell, what the hell it

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was mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's the Logan Act. That sounds familiar.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the Logan Act would necessarily apply

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in this sort of a scenario, but I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just know that there's like these

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these these activists private.

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Speaker 5: It disallows private diplomacy with foreign governments. Basically, a US

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citizen cannot engage in communications with foreign governments without authorization

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from our government. So I guess the loophole would be,

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since they are a part of the government, are they

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actually violating the Logan Act.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose that's right. Still, I believe it's in principle.

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The fact that you have senators just going to foreign

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countries to advocate on behalf of foreign nationals. It's it

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really you know, I know it's kind of trite to

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talk about the state that the Congress has reached, but

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it really does get hit home to us every single day.

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But I would like if we can. I would like,

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if we can, for us to watch this video of

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this reporter getting absolutely obliterated. I know not all of

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you have watched it. We're going to have all four

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minutes of it. We're going to probably pause and make

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comments within it, just so it's not four minutes of

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underruptive footage. But to be honest with you, this, when

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I sat down and watched this, this four minutes flew

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by in the flash. It was, it was, it was amazing.

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should watch.

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Speaker 2: This damn it. Doug administration statement deported the man who

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was mistakenly deported to El Salvador.

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Speaker 6: Well, let me ask, ma'am, would you as to answer that.

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Speaker 7: Question, Sir President, First and foremost, he was illegally in

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our country. He had been illegally in our country. And

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in twenty nineteen, two courts, an immigration court and an

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appellate immigration court ruled that he was a member of

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MS thirteen and he was illegally in our country right now.

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It was a paperwork. It was additional paperwork had needed

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to be die. That's up to El Salvador if they

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want to return him, that's not up to us. The

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Supreme Court rule President that if as El Salvador wants

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to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs. If

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they wanted to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning

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provide a plane.

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Speaker 6: And if you are doing a great job, than we

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And you just also respond to that question because you

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know it's asked by CNN, and they always ask it

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with a slant because they're totally slanting because they don't

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know what's happening. That's why nobody's watching them. But would

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you answer that question also.

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Speaker 2: Yes, gladly.

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Speaker 8: So as Pam mentioned, there's the illegal alien from El Salvador.

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So with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.

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So it's very arrogant, even for American media to suggest

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that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle

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their own citizens as a starting point, as two immigration

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courts found that he was member of MS thirteen. When

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President Trump declared MS thirteen to be a foreign terrorist organization,

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that meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law,

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which I'm sure you know you're very familiar with, the

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iona that he was no longer eligible for any form

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of immigration relief in the United States, so he had

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a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under

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our law he's not even allowed to be present in

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the United States and had to be returned because of

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the foreign terrorist design nation. This issue was then by

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a district court judge completely inverted, and a district court

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judge tried to tell the administration that they had to

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kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.

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That issue was raised with the Supreme Court, and the

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Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and

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its main components were reversed nine zero, unanimously stating clearly

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that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be

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compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of l

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Salvador from Alsat, who again is a member of MS thirteen,

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which is I'm sure you understand rapes little girls, murders women,

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murder's children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities in

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the world. And I can promise you if he was

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your neighbor, you wouldn't move right away.

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Speaker 1: The closet real quick, posit real quick. So I just

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I just want a moment of appreciation for Steven Miller

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and for everything he does. Thank you very much, mister Miller.

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Mister Miller esquire.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's a lawyer. But the fact that the

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Supreme Court overturned that District Court order nine zero, even

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Amy Coney Barrett joined it, even though whoever the the

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the black woman that they have on it, I don't

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remember her name, even she joined in that in that decision?

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Is it? This is so cut and dry that even

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activist judges on the Supreme Court couldn't be seen basically

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going against this ruling. So I think, gentlemen, I think

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there's a very serious problem with the district courts in

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean how constitutional are they? That's a

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question I have. I haven't dug deep into that. Yeah,

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I would like to say Steven Miller has done a

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great job with immigration. He he's been about immigration his

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whole life, even when he was in high school. Don't

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go to his Twitter feed and search to Ward Israel.

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But but yeah, these can't these courts just be demolished.

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I assume they were. They're just a product of the

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New Deal regime.

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Speaker 2: So they were created by the Congress.

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Speaker 4: They can be abolished by the Congress.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely true. I Mean one thing I was when I

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was taken a pre I was taking some pre law

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classes in college, and one of the things that kind

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of struck me when we were learning Supreme Court President

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initially was just how John Marshall, basically from the bench

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just decided that the Supreme Court was now a third

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branch of government, co equal with the other two. And

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you know, in the longest Supreme Court ruling ever, basically

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added a whole clause to the Constitution in Marbury versus Madison,

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which is the precedent upon which all other Supreme Court

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precedent is based. So just like if you want to

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talk about the courts basically having way more power than

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they should, that goes all the way back to I

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think the first Supreme Court decision that was ever made period.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, we can keep playing it in.

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Speaker 6: The Supreme Court sive, was it nine to nothing?

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's a nine hero favor in our favor against

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the district Court ruling saying that no district court has

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the power to compel the foreign policy function of the States.

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As PAM said, the ruling solely stated that if this

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individual at El Salvador. Sole discretion was set back to

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our country that we could deport him a second time. Well,

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no version of this legally ends up with him ever

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living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador,

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that is, the president of El Salvador. Your questions about

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per the court can only be directed to him.

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Speaker 7: I asked President President on this, do you plan to

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return him?

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Speaker 9: Well and sposo guys suggested that US smuggle and terrorists

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today United States?

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Speaker 6: How can I return him today?

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Speaker 9: LUs just like I smuggle him into the.

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Speaker 10: United States or whether the course.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to do it.

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Speaker 9: It's like, let mean the questions for busters, how can.

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Speaker 6: I smuggle the terrorists today, United States?

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Speaker 9: I don't have the power to return him to the

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United States. Yeah, but I'm not releasing I mean, we're

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not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country. You

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just turned the murder capital of the world into the

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safest country of the West. He want us to go

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back into the releasing criminals so they can go back

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to being the murdered capital of the world.

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Speaker 6: And that's not going well. They'd love to have a

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criminal you know, Rea schedule. I mean I mean there's

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as they would love it. Yeah, they sick. These are

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shick people. Marcould give something to say.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean Stephen Island. I don't understand what the

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confusion is. This individual is a citizen of Alsavagory, United

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the Gap and was returned to his country. That's where

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you deport people back to their country of origin. Except

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for Venezuela that wasn't refusing to take people back at

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places like that.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this, mister President.

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Speaker 11: No, the foreign policy of the United States is conducted

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by the President of the United States, not by a court.

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Speaker 1: And no court in the.

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Speaker 11: United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy

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of the United States.

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Speaker 1: It's that simpse. So pause that real quickly.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: There was another Supreme Court case that was decided in

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the in the nineteen thirties. I believe it was called

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Curtis Right the United States. It was about the Curtis

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Right Airplane company selling airplane machine guns to I think

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it was Paraguay during the Choco War, which is a

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much forgotten conflict. But the the I think that's the

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end anyway. But the decision in that Supreme Court case

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Curtis Right the United States was Basically, the reason that

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this was brought up was that Curtis Right sold these

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machine guns to Paraguay in violation of an embargo that

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was placed on Paraguay, I think by the executive branch.

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And so the decision of that Supreme Court case through

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because it hit on a very sophisticated point of law. Basically,

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the decision of the United States is what's called the

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sole organ doctrine, right, the sole organ doctrine. What this

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basically means is that the foreign policy of the United

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States must be conducted through the executive branch. You know,

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things like treaties, things like official binding resolutions, you know,

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all this other stuff that goes through Congress. However, immediate

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foreign policy and immediate foreign relations of any kind must

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be conducted through the president. And so what these courts

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are functionally doing is they're in violation of that doctrine

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in the sense that they are imposing upon the executive branch,

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upon the presidency in particular, a you know, constraints as

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to how he is supposed to act in foreign policy.

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the reason I wanted to play this whole video is

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simply because I want to demonstrate, you know, I think

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we all know this, but I just you know, I

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want it to be made absolutely clear that the United

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States is currently functioning so far in violation of its

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own law and statute and non enforcement of its own

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law and statute that it's it's it's just it's disgusting.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and that's one of the reasons why,

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you know, a president who can go in there and

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start be the executive that the even just the law allows,

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is going to look like a dictator, because I mean,

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we have listen to what that reporter asked. That reporter

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asked President Bukelly if he would release the terrorist into

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his own country as somebody who was in Al Salvador

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a month ago and considers it to be safer than

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any blue city or big city in this country. What's

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he supposed to say to those people? What's he supposed

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to say to a CNN reporter. I mean, these people

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want these people want to punish the average person. They

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want the person on the street to be scared and

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they get to go to their high rise or they

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get to go to their gated community. These people are

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the enemy. We are surrounded by the enemy. The enemy

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controls the narrative. In many cases, we need an executive

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who governs in a way that they understand that. And yeah,

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I'm hoping one comes along one day or somebody wakes up.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with that. I mean, if if even

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Noel Salvador is a small place and it's a much

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smaller area to exercise influence over, if you can take

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a place that's that bad and you know, almost overnight,

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make it literally the leading country in the Western Hemisphere

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for safety.

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Speaker 5: You can fix Chicago, you can fix You can fix Chicago,

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you can fix La, you can fix San Francisco, you

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can fix New York, you can fix Boston. You can

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fix all of these cities. You can fix Miami. You

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can fix all of them. Because it can be done

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with the exception of maybe New York. I mean, which

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one of them has El Salvador is x point six

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million people? Which one of them has six point six

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million people in New York? Maybe Orange, Canon, maybe La.

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It could be It could be done. Eric Prince could

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do it in a weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I completely agree. And it's it's literally

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just a lack of will. Ever since the nineteen seventies,

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people have just been unable to conceive of cities as

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anything other than where we just let people be criminals

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for whatever reason, because we just let them be criminals. There,

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that's the criminal storage place. No, I completely agree, I

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completely agree. Do either of you gentlemen, have anything, mister

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Frost or mister Cook?

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Speaker 3: All right, just fundamentally, it's one of those things. I

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feel like there needs to be a better way of

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tightening up states documentation like how how was it? How

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was an illegal able to get married here? And have

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that beyond documentation like that, yea more certificate. In addition

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to that, I don't want to say tax filing, but

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the IRS has really been dropping the ball on that

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because Ice could have been handling that for how many

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decades at this point of oh wait, your filing taxes illegal?

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Off you go, and one of those things like it's

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the documentation of we don't know where they are is

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certainly a lie because they've been getting tax returns.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's I think the most insulting thing about

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all of this is that, I mean, these people have

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been issued Social Security numbers, These people have, as you say,

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gotten marriage certificates, have gotten tax returns, have have done

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all these other things, and they've just been treated almost

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the exact same, sometimes a little bit better than American

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citizens who are required to do all of the same things.

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And the American citizens are liable for the consequences of

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not complying with these legal documents. But because these people

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are not legal, these people are illegal. They could simply vanish,

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you know, or they can improperly do things. And that's

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the least. That is, of course, the least of the

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problems that they bring here. But it's the insult to

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the injury is the fact that you know this this

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this guy had a meriage certificate. He wasn't even he

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wasn't even a legal resident alien.

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Speaker 4: It's I don't know, not only that, I'd like to

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just comment on something that Miller said in the video

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This This Gang MS thirteen For the general viewers and

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those of you who may not know, look up some of

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the crimes that they've that those gang bangers have committed

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in the States.

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Speaker 2: It's wives or girlfriends.

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Speaker 4: It's ghastly, Like anybody who was a member of this gang.

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It's not like you're you know, dropping off a car

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or whatever, like you're doing some really really mess up stuff,

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and I don't want you. I don't want you within

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a thousand miles of the southern border of this country,

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let alone living in it, getting married in at Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: It's spelled deportation.

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Speaker 1: It's so true. It's so true. No, mister Cook, I

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grew up in I grew up in Northern Virginia, as

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most everyone in the audience knows, and MS thirteen had

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probably one of the largest presences in the United States

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in northern Virginia, particularly in Louden and Fairfax Counties, and

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in Arlington and Alexandria and all that. And I would

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hear they weren't in the particular area I was in,

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at least not heavy, but I would hear all kinds

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of things.

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Speaker 2: Growing up.

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Speaker 1: There were like kids who would be getting gunned down

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at bus stops and some of the richest counties of

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the United States. You know, girls would just disappear and

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then would be found in pieces, or you know, people

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would be like like, it's a mafia movies. Some people

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would were found, you know, hung up in a on

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a hook in an abandoned building somewhere in some industrial area.

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It's it's it's you know, and that's the least of

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you know, I remember was and the fear you know

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that they that they had, particularly amongst you know, I'm

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not here to they're there. I'm not gonna. I don't

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know if I should tell this story, but there was

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there was an incident where I was working with some

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Salvadorians and I made a joke and they they almost

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said like like, look, don't do that or you'll get killed.

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They will kill you, you know, if you if they find

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out that you're you know, making jokes about them. So

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I'm frankly very glad that this whole group of people

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is gone, that they've been eliminated and exterminated by UK.

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And I hope Trump finishes the job of of of

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flushing out the remnants.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the the treatment they should they get is the

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fire and the sword. That's that's my take, precise the

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processed stuff they're crying about.

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Speaker 2: The hell with that?

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Speaker 1: No, no, And speaking of fire and swords, they cost money.

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So thank the Good Lord that I think ICE is

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getting a huge budget increase. Yeah, right here.

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Speaker 5: You have to use that right, you have to use it,

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and you have to have the will to use it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Pete, I have to say about this when

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you're done.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I think.

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Speaker 5: We we know that if this doesn't happen, there, I mean,

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we're we're in for Even if it does happen, we

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may be in for civil war. But we can talk

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about we can actually talk about that later.

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Speaker 1: No, we absolutely can, because we've got something we're going

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to talk about with that. But no, absolutely, I think

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one of the issues too, and correct me if I'm wrong,

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but one of the one of the the things I've

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been hearing a lot of our guys kind of complain

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about is like, oh, where are the mass deportations? Why

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aren't they happening? Why aren't they happening? And I understand

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in some respect why they're saying that. I, of course,

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you know, don't respect the fact that they're doubting the

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plan that said this is a revolutionary administration in the

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sense that they are ripping out an entire infrastructure, an

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entire bureaucracy that is purpose built to ensure something like

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this does not happen, and they're completely rebuilding it from

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the ground up, and they're doing a pretty good friggin'

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job of it. Considering it's only been what three months,

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four months? You know this is not we're not year

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three of the Trump administration. We're doing this. We're on

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like month three or month four, and they've already I

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don't mean to keep singing Trump's praises, but I'm going

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to keep singing Trump's praises. Like a lot of the

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issues and the difficulties they've run into is simply man

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power shortages. They don't have enough ICE agents to do

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all of the deportations they want to do. So seeing

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something like this, I think is is very heartening. But

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mister Cook, you had something.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so this this budget increase, So for the for

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your elucidation on the House side, and I think on

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the Senate side too. ICE in border security falls under

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the jurisdiction of the Homeland Security Committee, and a couple

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of my friends who work on that committee had been

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saying that they were really trying to push for this

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ever since Trump was sworn in, because ICE has had

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a lot of budget issues in the past. It had

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a lot of manpower issues, especially under Biden. Morale was

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very low. You had agents wanting to get transferred to

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the northern border, where at least they could like perform

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some basic resemblance of their enforcement duties, and a lot

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of the to give the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: In Congress create it.

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Speaker 4: The guys that are on the Homeland Security Committee really

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really pushed hard for this increase and spend a lot

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of time behind the scenes getting assurances from a lot

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of the rank and file members that they.

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Speaker 2: Would support this.

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Speaker 4: So I do think it's important to give credit where

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credit is due here and also kind of reassure people

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that although Congress does kind of suck for the most part,

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there are good people in it that are trying to

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help the president realize one of his most important goals.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you would know better than me on that.

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I'm very grateful to those Congressmen on the Homeland Security Committee.

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Then if they were able to get this passed. This

480
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:45,240
you know, look, wars are won by logistics, and logistics

481
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,559
is money, you know, So if you if you don't

482
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:52,119
have the money to deport the people that need to

483
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,640
be deported, then I mean, you're not going to deport them. Frankly,

484
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,119
the will is here. This is the thing. The will

485
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,960
to deport in the administration is here. They just need

486
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,720
everything else.

487
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: Let's just hope Eric Prince get some money to help

488
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:13,799
the deportations out of this.

489
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be something. All right, gentlemen, I think

490
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,240
we're all good on this.

491
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: Excellent.

492
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,519
Speaker 1: So before mister Pete we discussed the coming Civil War.

493
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:33,680
Let's take a break from the news real quick and

494
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,799
talk about the last Civil War, particularly the meetup that

495
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:43,440
we had in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, this the weekend before last.

496
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,440
I was here, mister Frost was here, mister Cook was here,

497
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,240
and gentlemen, we wanted to have you on to just discuss,

498
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,920
discuss the event, to tell everyone in the audience you

499
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,119
know what you thought about it.

500
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:02,319
Speaker 3: I would say this someone closer to the planning aspect,

501
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,799
with the Delaware Crossing Society taking point on that this

502
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,279
was a smashing success. It for a while looked like

503
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,839
we weren't going to eclipse our Valley Forge event that

504
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,759
we had thrown together in November, and then at the

505
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,720
last minute just blew up with people signing up. I mean,

506
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,319
we had someone show up from the Florida Dogs chapter,

507
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:30,559
like Florida out of the blue. That's impressive. I would

508
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,559
say the weather couldn't get any better than that. Like

509
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240
missing in the beginning, dry the rest of the time,

510
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,759
wasn't too muddy on the reenactment of Pickett's charge and

511
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,400
just crossing at that section of the field. We had

512
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,119
probably the best tour guide we ever could for the money.

513
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

514
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,759
Speaker 4: The tour guide was very, very well versed in the

515
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,400
history and the lore of the battle, and it was

516
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,039
a great or to a modern Cicero if you will.

517
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,119
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's awesome, gentlemen. So what was the what

518
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,640
was the shape of the tour, how did it how

519
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,599
did it start out? What were the what was the

520
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,200
kind of the assembly of the gentlemen present there?

521
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: The composition? Who was there? I'd say we had it

522
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,319
was more Northerner, We'll give them that we had. We

523
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,319
had a contingent show up for from the Ivy League Society.

524
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

525
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: How many chapters were there?

526
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: We had six official chapters, two proto tap chapters showed up.

527
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: Six chapters of the OGC showed up to this event. Yes,

528
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,720
And what was what was the total attendance? It was

529
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:52,680
forty seven when all of a sudden done so, So

530
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:57,279
forty seven guys from six chapters and of course two

531
00:30:57,359 --> 00:30:59,960
uh nascent chapters that haven't incorporated yet. Showed up to

532
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:07,079
this event. Wow, and were they well behaved? Were they

533
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,519
were they you know, was there any problems or or

534
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,160
was it there just a general feeling of of of

535
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,720
of of brotherhood throughout the event.

536
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: I would say, I'll use this example there the first

537
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:24,160
march that you would led through Gettysburg. Water was kind

538
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,079
of the last logistic everyone thought about and nobody really

539
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:35,160
had it. Everybody brought water, everybody was cognizant about their trash, snacks,

540
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:40,240
everything water. Nothing was left it.

541
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,319
Speaker 1: It was perfect.

542
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: Everyone controlled themselves, there was no craziness. Got a little

543
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,839
slow at certain points, but someone had to pull up

544
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,160
the rear. Yeah, outstanding, mister Cook.

545
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: I know that you're a very studied historian of the

546
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:00,920
War between the States, and I wanted I wanted your

547
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,720
I wanted your opinion as to how well the the

548
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,759
what is it the historical aspect and the and the

549
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,319
and the recreation of the battle went during the tour.

550
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: Oh, you you do me great honor a study historian

551
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:19,200
putting that on my on my resume. But I think that, uh,

552
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,400
the it was very very well done. There was, you know,

553
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,799
much deserved respect paid to the men of the North

554
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,400
and the South. That fought at Gettysburg. The way that

555
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,799
the tour was conducted was done I think very very well.

556
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:39,759
Speaker 2: I was.

557
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:42,359
Speaker 4: I really liked the way that we finished off with

558
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,599
a pickets charge that was That was definitely my favorite part.

559
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,039
Speaker 7: Uh.

560
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,799
Speaker 4: I'm sure many other people who were there probably have

561
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,039
the same same feelings about it, And yeah, I I

562
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:59,920
would rate it a smashing success overall. And for those

563
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,680
among us who probably didn't know some of the specifics

564
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,680
about the battle, I think it's very safe to say

565
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,079
they came away with a better knowledge, better understanding, and

566
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:11,319
a very very deep appreciation of what happened on those

567
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:13,079
fields in July in eighteen sixty three.

568
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,799
Speaker 3: If i'm ad, one thing that was interesting to some

569
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,960
of the members from the DCS chapter that really hit home,

570
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:26,119
especially with the image that is shown that was from

571
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:29,279
a little round top. A bunch of us had done paintball.

572
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:30,799
It was kind of an unofficial thing. It was just

573
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,079
you know, guys getting together, going up doing paintball, and

574
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,960
we got our rear ends kicked. The enemy pushed us back.

575
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,039
We were trying to break through, but just couldn't. We

576
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:45,640
have shoes on, it's not hot, we have water, We're

577
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,519
well equipped and we just can't break through. Those guys

578
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:55,480
charged up that rocky hill barefoot in ninety degree heat,

579
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:57,880
full sun, getting.

580
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:58,319
Speaker 1: Shot at.

581
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: With a heavy ass musket.

582
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: I don't think many of us could do it.

583
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,519
Speaker 1: It was. It was truly a different type of man

584
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,480
that that participated.

585
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,079
Speaker 2: In that.

586
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,559
Speaker 1: Would either of you, gentlemen, go on this sort of

587
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:23,119
event again? Would you recommend other people, whether they're members

588
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:27,639
of the OGC or interested in joining or just you know, adjacent,

589
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,119
But if the event be opened to this wasn't open

590
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,400
to the public. But if the event, you know, would

591
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,599
something like this was open to the public or some

592
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,880
would you recommend people come to this? Would you come

593
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,880
to something like this again?

594
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: As as I recommended on the not City of the Union,

595
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,360
City of the Union address. Find your local chapters sign up.

596
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,039
It was the ticket. You just showed up for the

597
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,320
tour itself. It was free. There was no money involved.

598
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,159
You just had to be a member.

599
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Stuff like this.

600
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: It's kind of the lowest bar. You just have to

601
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,400
get in there and help these chapters grow network. There

602
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,760
are multiple benefits to it, but these type of tours

603
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,519
make it worth it. So find your local chapter sign

604
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,199
up or find the group of guys who are trying

605
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,119
to set up and hey, I had no little to

606
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:33,559
no involvement in the political sphere at all online, and

607
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,360
then somehow in this chapter Secretary of the DCS in

608
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:40,719
matter of months, like you can just do.

609
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Things absolutely, mister cookie, have anything else?

610
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: I think for us pretty much summed up how I

611
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,039
felt very well. I will add a corollary, though, I

612
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:01,880
highly encourage local OGC chapter to find some historical sites

613
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,639
closer to town and have your own sort of you know,

614
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:10,159
guided tours, walk throughs, whatever. If you've got a Revolutionary

615
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:15,400
war battlefield or a Civil war battlefield near you, doing

616
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,079
something like this is one. It's a great way to

617
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:21,559
build brotherhood and brotherly love too, if you organize like

618
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,639
you know, trash pickups. I did notice some trash on

619
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,760
the battlefield that I tried to pick up when I could,

620
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,400
but I only had, you know, two hands in a

621
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,840
couple pockets. Cleaning up these kinds of historical sites is

622
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,519
definitely something that's well worth the club's time in my opinion,

623
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,800
and it also has the potential to build relationships among

624
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:48,039
people in these chapters and also with the national parks,

625
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:52,760
the local residents and the general public at large. So

626
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,840
I think that these kinds of events are an excellent,

627
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:02,400
excellent vector for our energies. And I really am looking

628
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,719
forward to the next one outstanding.

629
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:08,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, honestly, I just kind of on

630
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,039
your point because you brought up something I was thinking about.

631
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,920
I was in the Virginia Chat today of the you know,

632
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,079
Vetas Dominion, first first ever chapter of the OGC. I

633
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,000
have to always say that they were talking about possibly adopted.

634
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:24,960
I don't know if other states have this, but in Virginia,

635
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,239
you can adopt a road. There's a sign that they'll

636
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,840
put up and it'll have your organizations or your name

637
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,199
on it if you do trash pickups on that road,

638
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,199
and it's it's a nice community building thing. And they

639
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,840
were talking about doing that, and so it doesn't have

640
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880
to necessarily just be a historic side, although you know,

641
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,880
we very much care about historic preservation within the OGC,

642
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,960
but even something like picking up trash on a local road,

643
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,679
making it look nicer, making it look like people care

644
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,119
about that. This is the type of stuff that the

645
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,480
OGC is here for, is you know, those ten thousand

646
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:58,360
little things that make a civilization well inhabited and well

647
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,519
lived in so that you know, that's just something you know,

648
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,239
you don't have to just limit it to historical battlefields.

649
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,199
You can step off the battlefield too and step back

650
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:11,960
into the present and and and take that same inspiration,

651
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,960
that same uh, that same energy and bring it into

652
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,519
your day to day lives. And that's how you make

653
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,920
real change. So yeah, that's just something I wanted to

654
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,440
I wanted to to sort of add to that, Pete.

655
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,599
I know you weren't there, but just from from someone

656
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,159
who wasn't there, how, how did how did this whole

657
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,320
event sound? How did how does this all sound like?

658
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 7: It?

659
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,119
Speaker 1: Does it sound like something that the O G c

660
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,280
uh those you see we were proud to have its

661
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,960
name attached to.

662
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,119
Speaker 5: Definitely, definitely and you know, all over all over the

663
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:43,400
South where I am, you know, I'm I'm not far

664
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,480
from pretty much everywhere I drive in my area there's

665
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:52,599
a monument too to the war, and you know, there's

666
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:57,440
this is something we should all of the uh, all

667
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,360
of the chapters, especially the ones you know south of

668
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,400
the Mason Dixson should be it should be doing. You know,

669
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:07,480
it's it's a cheap get together and it's a good

670
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,960
time for camaraderie outstanding.

671
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 4: I think I think it's in Lee County, Alabama. I've

672
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000
seen this marker when I was when I was in college.

673
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:21,079
Down there, there is a marker where the fifteenth Alabama,

674
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:25,119
who were the Southerners who charged up the flank of

675
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,639
Little Roundtop twentieth Maine. If you've seen the movie Gettysburg,

676
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:32,239
you know what I'm talking about. There's a marker in

677
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,320
Lee County, Alabama, I believe where they where they mustered

678
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,800
up in eighteen sixty one when the war began. The

679
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,320
South is full of those of those little things if

680
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,079
you just look.

681
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, it was.

682
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: It was.

683
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too much on a on

684
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
a talk about this, but it was like the male

685
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:54,480
populations of entire southern towns and sometimes even entire southern

686
00:39:54,519 --> 00:40:00,719
counties that marched off to fight in eighteen sixty one.

687
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I know, this isn't this isn't war between

688
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,679
the states. But I mean, I live like thirty five

689
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,960
minutes from Horseshoe Bend. Anyone who knows they're there Andrew

690
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,079
Jacks or should know, should and.

691
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,159
Speaker 1: That that that actually reminds me, you know, for those

692
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,239
of you who may be a bit further west, or

693
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,000
you may be in an area where there aren't like

694
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:24,039
civil war battlefields or anything like that. I guarantee you

695
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,400
there's something near you. There's something out west. You have

696
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,639
all kinds of Indian forts, you know, I mean all

697
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,679
the ones I think of now are are army basis.

698
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,280
So I don't know if you should, if you should

699
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,159
have an event there, but but there are there are

700
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:40,039
a bunch of Indian forts out there. There's uh, you know,

701
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:44,000
there's there's geological formations, there's there's you know, state parks,

702
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,039
national parks. It doesn't have to just be a battlefield.

703
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,239
It could be something that's a that's that's a creation

704
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,719
of God's hands that you have in your state, that's unique.

705
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,599
There anything anything that's near you. I guarantee you there's something.

706
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Unless you're in Kansas, you know, if you're if you're

707
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,599
in if you're I know, the Witchitaho g C. I'm

708
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,800
just you know, you could do something at Dodge City.

709
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,000
I think I think that's uh, I think that's that Actually, No, Kansas,

710
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,280
Kansas has some stuff. You know. Dodge City is a

711
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,159
good example. You can have like a Cowboy WIA or

712
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,920
event there. I know we've got a Wichita guys here.

713
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,920
I'm not I'm not picking on you Kansas, but yeah, no,

714
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,960
there's always there has to be something near you, something

715
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,559
near you, and all you have to do is just

716
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:33,719
go and find it. And you could you two, your chapter,

717
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,840
your group of guys can have an event that is

718
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:45,239
as special as what this Gettysburg event was. All right,

719
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,920
does anyone have any any final thoughts on this before

720
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,360
we move on?

721
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 4: Next time, we'll reenact pickats charge and we'll win by god.

722
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: If like if if if Picket and Pedigrew and and

723
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,320
all the others couldn't do it, and I don't know,

724
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,840
I don't think we can. All right, Before we move

725
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,679
on to the next topic, I think we're gonna hit

726
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:17,320
these super chats real quick. So first one from TK

727
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,960
for five dollars Wichita OGC repers. I was just picking

728
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:25,760
on Kansas. Wichita OGC represent eat it solid snack, salute, salute. Well,

729
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,639
thank you very much, mister TK, and I hope that

730
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,800
the Home Range Society there in Kansas is doing well.

731
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,400
Cj L for two dollars, Thank you very much, he says.

732
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,199
All solutions, all our solutions, excuse me, are fed posts well,

733
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,079
I mean not quite. You know, a lot of our

734
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:45,920
solutions are are boring sounding and are limited to a

735
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:48,559
court of law, but you know, outside of that, I

736
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,079
agree a great, a great many of our solutions are

737
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:56,119
fed posts air maic discourse For five dollars, he says.

738
00:42:56,159 --> 00:43:00,679
The deportations will continue until morale approves by guys. I hope, so,

739
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:05,599
thank you very much, sir. Don Browning for twenty dollars

740
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,079
sends a woman with a ponytail. Well, thank you very much.

741
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:16,719
Don Browning always here high powered for twenty dollars, says

742
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:22,239
Fyi COVID FHA home loss mitigation ends September thirty first.

743
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,519
There are potentially hundreds of thousands that could hit the

744
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:29,320
market because of this. That's actually that's that's actually a

745
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960
pretty great FYI in my judgment, any of you in

746
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,039
the market for a house, if that FAHA stuff ends

747
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,559
on September thirty first, you might be able to pick

748
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:43,360
something up for the cheap. I hope that doesn't cause

749
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,039
a follow on market bubble, but oh well, Hunger for

750
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,239
five US dollars, he says. Stephen Miller is my favorite

751
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Bagel Town resident, and bukel A is my favorite Palestine,

752
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,760
you know, on that hunger. I saw something on the

753
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,920
time line today where some leftist was talking about Claudia

754
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,599
Steinbaumer whomever, like getting the Mexican military to go to

755
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:11,719
El Salvator for a special military operation. And then someone

756
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,639
quote tweeted and said, I don't know if a Jew

757
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:18,239
making a jew making war on a Palestinian is a

758
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000
good look. So I thought that was very funny.

759
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,159
Speaker 2: Wow.

760
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, No matter where you go, that particular conflict just

761
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,320
seems to spring up everywhere.

762
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:32,119
Speaker 1: Well, if I remember correctly, El Salvador doesn't even border Mexico.

763
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:33,840
There's like Guatemala between the two.

764
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, And I.

765
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,519
Speaker 1: Know a great deal about a Guatemala because I did

766
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:47,039
a research project on JORGEO Biico Castagneda, who is the

767
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:50,079
the dictator there in the in World War Two. He

768
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,639
was He was an interesting fella. They called him the

769
00:44:53,719 --> 00:45:00,760
Napoleon of America, which was extremely flattering. Three nine three

770
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,159
for five US dollars. Thank you very much, sir, He says.

771
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:06,079
Stephen Miller knows Barabas was the wrong choice and is

772
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:10,000
making up for it. Happy Easter, everyone, Yeah, indeed, Happy Easter.

773
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:13,119
You know, today's Mandy Thursday, so tomorrow will be good Friday.

774
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:14,960
I hope everyone had a very good Holy Week, and

775
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,679
I hope everyone will have a very good Easter this weekend.

776
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,840
Machiavelli sucks. Being white is great for four dollars and

777
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,840
ninety nine cents. He says, they are jokes. Bring it.

778
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:34,360
I think this was in relation to the to the video. Yeah, no, absolutely,

779
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,360
I think I think he's talking about the media. No,

780
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:42,639
they absolutely are. They utterly suck. And if if I'm wrong,

781
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:46,719
correct me later. Melon for five dollars, he says.

782
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,199
Speaker 2: There.

783
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,559
Speaker 1: Melon was also at the at the Gettysburg event. He

784
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,840
says there were boomers following us around to hear our

785
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,199
tour guide speak and just join in the energy of

786
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,199
the thing. Oh, that's that's something if you know, if

787
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,960
if yeah, go ahead.

788
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:05,559
Speaker 3: Well I was gonna say, I remember hearing some people

789
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,320
rumble of oh, don't interrupt them their professional tour, so

790
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,559
that that was funny to hear.

791
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:14,079
Speaker 2: It's like.

792
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:17,119
Speaker 3: A bunch of dudes getting together.

793
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,199
Speaker 2: We have a couple of flags. That's all we need.

794
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,119
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, like if it looks the part, I guess.

795
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: And Mellan was the first member of the DCS the

796
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,679
Delaware Crossing Society, so he.

797
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Will always have a special place in a heart. Yeah,

798
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,360
Melan's done a lot of great work. Back when we

799
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,239
were doing the relief work in North Carolina, I met

800
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,360
him at the Gettysburg event. I was very happy to

801
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:49,159
meet him. Seasider for ten dollars sends a salute. Man, Seasider,

802
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,239
you've been slacking. You've been slacking. We're very grateful for

803
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,599
your for your consistent support. But you've been slacking.

804
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: Man.

805
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: You're you're losing your place now. As a matter of fact,

806
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,599
people are now sending in super chats to let us

807
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:06,039
know that you have lost your place. So I don't know, Man,

808
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,239
Hunger for fifty US dollars, I think that deserves some gold.

809
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,920
This is gold, mister bone.

810
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: All my life, I've been in love with its color.

811
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:26,119
Speaker 1: I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock. So,

812
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:27,800
for those of you who don't know, that clip is

813
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,119
from a movie called Kelly's Heroes, which is my favorite

814
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,039
World War two movie. It's a great movie. It's a

815
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,760
clean Eastwood movie. It's like it was kind of like

816
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,199
some it was like the nineteen seventies version of the Expendables.

817
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,599
Where you just have all the top actors of the

818
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:48,239
day just come together for a unserious action film. It's it,

819
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,599
but it's a great movie. I love it dearly. But

820
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,880
Hunger for fifty US dollars, he says on behalf of

821
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,800
the Delaware Crossing Society and the planning committee, I want

822
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,719
to personally thank every one who attended the Gettysburg tour.

823
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,960
You can never undersell these things. The camaraderie was fantastic,

824
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,480
the dinner was white pilling, and the experience was very visceral.

825
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,800
I highly encourage everyone not to miss out on the

826
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,599
next one. Well, thank you, Hunger. We didn't even yeah,

827
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,880
we didn't even talk about the dinner that we had afterwards.

828
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:18,159
That I think that was like that. That was the

829
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,400
icing on the cake. The whole environment of the of

830
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,559
the tavern we were in it was. It was wonderful,

831
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,559
all right. Yeah, thank you very much, Hunger. And then

832
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:39,159
finally Paladin YYZ for twenty dollars. He says that White

833
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:42,280
House meeting was scripted like a bad reader's digest riddle.

834
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,800
How many attorneys does it take to buy a plane ticket?

835
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:52,840
Oh my goodness, Yeah, I don't.

836
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:55,199
Speaker 3: Think SNL could write a funnier skit if they tried.

837
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: No, No, that was that was the funniest thing about it.

838
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:03,719
It was is an SNL skit. It's like, I think,

839
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,840
what you know, I'm I'm a historian by education, and

840
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,239
I think what and all that history is really is

841
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,679
is the amassing of facts in order to create narratives.

842
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,159
And I think the narrative that will be created, or

843
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,039
at least one of the narratives that will be created

844
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,840
around Trump, is the fact that you know, he turned

845
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,599
his revolution was that he was able to turn politics

846
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:26,800
into entertainment, which made things like SNL and stuff obsolete

847
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,239
because you don't need SNL when the actual politics is

848
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,920
the show. And that's actually not new. American politics have

849
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000
been a carnival for a very long time. It just

850
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,800
it just changes the type of entertainment. And yeah, no,

851
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,119
that that that was an SNL skit where you know,

852
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:47,639
it's like, you know, Trump's like, hey, Age, answer that now,

853
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:52,440
Stephen Miller, answer that now, President bucell A, who's sitting

854
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,800
next to me. How about you answer that now, Little

855
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,079
Marco yapping dog, how about you answer that? You know, uh,

856
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:03,159
it's it's it's you couldn't you couldn't write better comedy,

857
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:10,920
all right. And then finally before we get move on

858
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,639
to our next topic, mister Thomas Wayne Riley for five dollars.

859
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:17,599
He says, this is a fantastic idea. Thankfully New Mexico

860
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:20,239
has battlefield as well and plenty of old frontier forts.

861
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:24,159
If you're in New Mexico, email the OGC immediately.

862
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: No, Mexico had, in all honesty, one of I think

864
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,760
the most horrifying parts of the Civil War with General

865
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Sibley's ill fated expedition into New Mexico. Yeah, that that

866
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,199
you read about what happened with the the Texans who

867
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:43,760
had to march back through the New Mexico desert like

868
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,519
the harshest part of it after the Confederates were defeated.

869
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:53,760
It it's it's it's horrifying, all right. That finishes up

870
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,159
our super chats for now. Thank you all for your

871
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:58,679
patronage as per usual, and we will now move on

872
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,199
into our next topic.

873
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,079
Speaker 2: Right.

874
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:15,519
Speaker 1: So recently, as I think, as of the fourteenth four Chan,

875
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:28,000
which many credit as the originating platform of of of

876
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,559
this this whole culture we all inhabit, this sort of

877
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,800
online political sphere, four Chan was taken down by hackers,

878
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,960
and you are looking at what I think, whether or

879
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,159
not it's actually the last post on four chan, I

880
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:44,920
think is less relevant. This is in popular memory as

881
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,159
to what will be the last the last post on

882
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,360
four chan, and it's and it's just making fun of

883
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:58,599
the stupid Minecraft movie. Yeah, I think, what is it?

884
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:01,360
I know it was a bunch of hackers that took

885
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,039
it down, and there was a bunch of metadata that

886
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:06,639
was released, and the website was, you know, in utter shambles,

887
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:09,800
and very few people still use it, but it had

888
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,960
its place, and it very much spawned a lot of

889
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,679
the you know, even our our our linguistic signifiers, you know,

890
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,000
you know, little turns of phrase and memes and things

891
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:24,440
like that. It has inspired our everyday speech. And so

892
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,519
I guess, I guess we wanted to talk about four

893
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:30,559
chan and and sort of the role it had in

894
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,360
spawning this online scene and kind of in kind of

895
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,400
what its vanishment it's being taken down sort of signifies.

896
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:50,519
Speaker 5: It's the data that came out showing that the overwhelming

897
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:53,719
majority of the posts that were on there came from

898
00:52:54,599 --> 00:53:00,199
Israeli IPS is interesting considering. I mean, I assume good

899
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:05,280
amount of those are from or from VPNs. But also, yeah,

900
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,559
I think we're pretty we know what Unit eighty two

901
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:13,199
hundred and what the j i DF was was up to,

902
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:18,800
especially in the in the early in the early tens,

903
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,320
in the early twenty tens. But yeah, I mean this

904
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:28,719
is I've never I've never posted on there, but go

905
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,639
on the boards and read as a stone cold lurker.

906
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,440
And I mean everybody talks about everybody talks about Pole.

907
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,760
But there were places you could find recipes, there were

908
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,519
places you could find exercises.

909
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: It was yeah, I mean, yeah, rest in peace.

910
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: I guess I want to see more more meta information

911
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:54,559
come out so we can know exactly what was going

912
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:55,039
on there.

913
00:53:59,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

914
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed the golden era of Pole. I was

915
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,079
mostly on LITT actually because I fancied myself an intellectual

916
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,960
when I was in college. But LITT, you know, really

917
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,960
did contribute to you know, someone like me who had

918
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,119
never read in my life actually going and finding great

919
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,920
books to read, and it set me on a path

920
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:28,559
of enriching my inner life.

921
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a weird take here. I mean, I'm

922
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,840
elder gen Z, so I kind of missed out on

923
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:43,239
the golden age of pole Dash four Chan, before everything

924
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,559
kind of went chaotic in like twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.

925
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,760
That's when it started really changing, at least from what

926
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:56,719
I had seen. I think our spear as a whole

927
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,079
kind of outgrew it to a degree like this. I

928
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,000
don't want to say plug ourselves. The LGC is one

929
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:08,760
of the fruit it bore before dying or meeting in person.

930
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:15,360
We're doing things beyond just talking online, which is frankly

931
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:18,280
an even better outcome than just if it had kept

932
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,239
going and kept sustaining itself as an entity.

933
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,159
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's the correct take

934
00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:29,800
from this is that, you know, the four chan is

935
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,559
kind of the very you know, for all the things

936
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,199
you could describe it, it was certainly crass, crude, immature,

937
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,079
all those words could be used to describe it, for

938
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,039
good or for ill. And I think the take that

939
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:48,760
we've outgrown it is the right one to take. Mister Cook,

940
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,760
do you have anything.

941
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: On four Chan?

942
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 3: Uh?

943
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: Not really. I'm kind of like Frosted.

944
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,079
Speaker 4: I was an elder gen Z, so I was never

945
00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:01,159
on like four chan or read it. I was too

946
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,480
busy doing other things in college. I didn't really even

947
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,920
get politically active until almost near graduation. So I I

948
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,320
saw this news today and I kind of just like, oh, well,

949
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:12,559
that happened.

950
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess that really speaks to the place

951
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,039
that four chan had fallen to, is it's like, no one,

952
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,440
I don't what is it. I did not go on it.

953
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:25,239
I have not been on it for years, and it

954
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,159
just because there's nothing of value there anymore.

955
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:29,119
Speaker 2: I also assume that.

956
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 4: There's a lot of like weird fed you know, honey

957
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,400
pots and honey traps and just you know, glow eaved

958
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,719
up and baked up.

959
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of porn, really unappetizing stuff. But you know,

960
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:52,159
we wanted to mention this, I suppose, not just because

961
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,800
four chan falling is a big deal. I guess culturally,

962
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,159
even though four chan is moral, It's like, I guess

963
00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:02,159
it's kind of like the collapse of the Roman Empire.

964
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:05,000
When Odoaker took it over, it was already it was

965
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:09,079
already rather gone, but you know, it finally did fall.

966
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,559
But something I think it signifies, and it shows a

967
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:20,119
wider symbolism of is just I've noticed a seed change

968
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:24,199
recently in the online sphere, in our online political sphere,

969
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:25,639
it seems you know, a lot of post I'm not

970
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:27,199
going to name names, but like that, a lot of

971
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:29,480
posters who used to be great have been kind of

972
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:33,599
immolating themselves on the timeline, making themselves look like fools,

973
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:36,840
you know, just you know, not even necessarily selling out,

974
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440
although you could say there's an element of that, more

975
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,159
so just kind of becoming their own memes and the

976
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,719
quality of the timeline, to say nothing of Elon's innovations,

977
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,039
of the fact that only thirty percent of India is

978
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:58,840
on the Internet, all these other things. I really think

979
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,559
that there's a change a major we talk about vibe ships.

980
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:05,119
I think there's a vibe shift happening in our sort

981
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:08,800
of online political sphere as well. And this is something

982
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,119
that signifies it. Do you, gentlemen, see what I see?

983
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 7: To you?

984
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: Degree disagree?

985
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I notice that.

986
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a changing of the guard. Really, to be honest,

987
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:26,119
some people have lost their nish or it's been so

988
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,400
long since the thing that gave them their rise to

989
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,159
prominence is kind of run out.

990
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,519
Speaker 5: And what you know what Zach Frisby here in the

991
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:40,840
comments said is you know much of Twitter is now

992
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,199
four chan basically, you know, people are there are some

993
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:46,519
people who are getting banned. But I mean it's not

994
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:47,360
like it used to be.

995
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I suppose that is true.

996
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,559
Speaker 1: Around twenty sixteen timeframe. That's when, you know, like the

997
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,519
really the golden era of posters is when that started.

998
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,039
And yeah, I know, all the all the people. That

999
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:05,480
was when all the all the people of all the

1000
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:08,800
various forums, you know, whether it was the sallow form

1001
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,559
or others, just decided to step out of their little

1002
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,039
niche heidi holes and come into the light on this

1003
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:18,719
great public agoram that is that is that was Twitter.

1004
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,119
And now it seems like people are starting to go

1005
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:22,760
back into the other way. They're starting to you know,

1006
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,360
they realize that the you know, the the the public

1007
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,360
square is getting full of grifters and and and and

1008
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,320
really just slop and all these other things. And they

1009
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,559
realized that the only thing of substance and value will

1010
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,599
now be found back in similar niche hidy holes, just

1011
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:40,679
of a different sort, whether it's group chats or other things.

1012
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,119
Speaker 4: I will also say, like, if you aggressively, you know,

1013
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:48,800
curate your timeline on Twitter against like slop and grifters.

1014
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,639
Grifters aren't that hard to spot in my opinion, for

1015
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:54,119
the most part, Like, once you've kind of seen it

1016
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,039
happen a couple of times, I've that's what I've been

1017
00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:00,559
doing in my timeline's not not not too bad?

1018
01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:05,599
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah I understand that. But the thing is the

1019
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:08,480
fact that you have to you know, you have the

1020
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:10,800
muted words and the blocked accounts and stuff like that, that

1021
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,239
you have to put in so much effort to curtail

1022
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,679
your timeline. At that point, people are just going to

1023
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,760
go like they're just not even gonna bother putting in

1024
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,480
that effort. Most people are just going to delete the

1025
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:23,119
app and go somewhere else where. It's uh, if there

1026
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:26,679
is somewhere else, I don't think Gab's going to replace it.

1027
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: Do you think all the four chan people will move

1028
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,719
to like like Reddit or something.

1029
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you know there was a time when Reddit

1030
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,360
used to be like four Chan, you know, when it

1031
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,239
was almost as bad, and then the left took it over.

1032
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'll what was I gonna say about? Yeah,

1033
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:58,519
I think Twitter is I don't know, Yeah, scratch that thought.

1034
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:04,159
Speaker 4: I apologize Kora or something like that.

1035
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:09,159
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, But you know, with the with the with

1036
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:11,760
the sort of seed change that's happened and I really

1037
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:19,320
what I think it is. I think it's because posting existed.

1038
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:23,119
It was created in twenty fifteen to get Trump into

1039
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,679
the White House, and it did. And then when Trump

1040
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,599
was removed from the White House, it was given a

1041
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:34,239
new lease on life to keep the fire alive until

1042
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,400
Trump came back and then get him in the White

1043
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,440
House a second time. And now that we have gotten

1044
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:41,400
him in the White House a second time, I think

1045
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,599
people are kind of you know, it's it's like, you know,

1046
01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:45,960
when a great crusade comes to an end, you've achieved

1047
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,599
your goal, and it's like, okay, well now what and

1048
01:01:48,679 --> 01:01:51,280
lots of people are kind of left pondering. It's like, well,

1049
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,440
you know, what's my whole raison detri for posting in

1050
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,360
the first place. Most of what I complained about has

1051
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,039
been either either is being addressed or you know, is

1052
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,440
not relevant to anymore. And you know, when you have

1053
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,480
that kind of lose of momentum, loss of momentum rather

1054
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,840
especially when you you know, you get the big man

1055
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,440
who fixes that's unfortunately, that's just how right wingers think

1056
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,280
is they think in terms of get get it, get

1057
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,880
the big man in who fixes things. And you know

1058
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,599
that can work, and with Trump it seems to be.

1059
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:27,159
But the problem is when you lose that raisondetra, you know,

1060
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:30,159
it's like it's like you want to go back to grilling,

1061
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:32,800
you want to go back to normal life, to normal hobbies,

1062
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,679
to not being politically involved in it. And unfortunately I don't.

1063
01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:39,440
I think that's the wrong response. I think that's a

1064
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,320
horrible response. I think even doubly so because this week

1065
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,039
a leftist wrote something about all of us that I

1066
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:49,719
think was the is very telling as to where they

1067
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,400
are right now mentally off of their defeat.

1068
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1069
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,679
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, the question, one of the

1070
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,519
questions about this whole thing with four chun is who

1071
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:06,119
did it and what was the purpose of it? You know,

1072
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,639
was it? Was it a left kind of movement who's

1073
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:15,119
fighting back against you know, Trump being elected. And remember

1074
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:18,159
they they may not be saying this, but I mean

1075
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:20,800
the last president of the United States said it. You know,

1076
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:25,320
anyone who would even think to not only support Trump

1077
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:30,440
but not call Trump a fascist is their enemy. They

1078
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,039
consider you to be the enemy. It's a very Zionist

1079
01:03:33,159 --> 01:03:36,519
kind of idea where you're you can't just be oh,

1080
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:40,199
you know, well, I'm kind of neutral on Israel. No,

1081
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,840
you have to actually be you know, you have to

1082
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,000
be pro pro Zionist, or you're considered their enemy. Well,

1083
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:53,199
these leftists whatever you want to call them, communists, socialists,

1084
01:03:53,840 --> 01:04:01,840
insane progressives. You know, they are not going away, you know.

1085
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,960
And we have some that are, you know, actually openly

1086
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,719
and publicly saying okay, well, these people who support Trump

1087
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,440
or you know, support his policies, don't even have to

1088
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,679
support Trump. When do we start killing them?

1089
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah?

1090
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1091
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 5: And and here's here's what I want to say to

1092
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:28,039
people too. This is a message to everyone who saw that,

1093
01:04:29,159 --> 01:04:33,880
and everyone who had the their immediate reaction was, oh,

1094
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,960
this is a theater kid. Oh this is if it

1095
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:40,719
came to it, you'd never know. These the theater kids

1096
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:47,119
were the ones killing priests in Spain. These are the

1097
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:54,039
people who do this. Okay, you don't the homosexuals. They're

1098
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:56,920
the ones who do it. Okay, They're the ones that

1099
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,719
get radicalized. They're the ones that have nothing to lose

1100
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,480
because as they have nothing in the there's no legacy

1101
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:08,079
for them. If you don't take this seriously, you're I mean,

1102
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:10,440
as far as I'm concerned, you're not part of you're

1103
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,920
not part of anything I'm building, because these are the

1104
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:18,880
exact people who start this kind of thing. And these

1105
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,880
are the exact people who pull the trigger on old

1106
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,639
ladies and pull the trigger on priests and nuns and

1107
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:29,000
dig up nuns and disin turn nuns and mock their bodies.

1108
01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:34,559
And as you know I mentioned earlier, and you know,

1109
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:37,320
Paul and I did an episode a couple of years ago,

1110
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:42,079
there is violence coming in this country. I don't think

1111
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,159
it's going to be cover the whole nation, but there's

1112
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:47,639
going to be pockets of it and large pockets of it.

1113
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,760
And if you don't believe that, if you're looking around it,

1114
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,360
you don't believe that. Yeah, I don't. I don't really

1115
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,280
want to have any I don't know that I can

1116
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:02,360
even you know, call you, you know, comrade or friend.

1117
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,679
Speaker 3: I think it just comes down to the fundamental thing

1118
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:11,159
of never underestimate your enemy, as simple as that they

1119
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:14,000
might they might be a pushover theater kid if they

1120
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:19,440
actually fight someone that's going to fight back, But until

1121
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,960
that happens, they are the most dangerous threat.

1122
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1123
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like, for me, the something that I've been

1124
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,679
really frustrated with the last few years is a lot

1125
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:32,800
of people I know will use though, oh he's a

1126
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,159
weak little theater kid, or oh they're like, you know,

1127
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,599
not gonna fight us because of their soy lattes are

1128
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:39,679
going to write out then they'll like surrender or whatever

1129
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,639
the hell. The weird boomer cope is, Like, there's plenty

1130
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:47,559
of other examples of you know, leftists basically saying we

1131
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,480
want to kill you and we're looking for the perfect

1132
01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:52,719
opportunity to do it. And there's beeny examples where they've

1133
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,480
actually like engaged in this behavior. And it's kind of

1134
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,159
one of those things where it's, look, they're telling you

1135
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,199
what they want, they're telling you who they are. You're

1136
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:03,159
sitting here like sticking your head in the sand saying.

1137
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no.

1138
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,679
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's like that's how you end up

1139
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:09,760
as a as part of the casualty figure of shit

1140
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:10,440
hitting the fan.

1141
01:07:10,719 --> 01:07:16,079
Speaker 1: Like do you do you morons think that just because

1142
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:20,079
these you know that their anti Second Amendment stuff, thinks

1143
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:21,719
that they want to take guns away from them, No,

1144
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,199
they want to take your guns away. They don't. They

1145
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:29,280
want they want to use guns to kill you, all right,

1146
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,239
Like these these weak theater kids can pull triggers and

1147
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:34,679
can be taught to shoot just as well as anything else. Right,

1148
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:38,159
you know, and in my five years of service in

1149
01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:41,440
the National Guard, I have seen that you can teach

1150
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,199
just about anyone to shoot very quickly.

1151
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: It is.

1152
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: It can be done in an afternoon. If you have

1153
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:50,039
the AMMO for it, it can be done in an afternoon.

1154
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:51,159
It doesn't take a lot of AMMO.

1155
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: Right.

1156
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: You can teach anyone to shoot, You can teach anyone

1157
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,519
to drive a tank, You can teach anyone to pilot

1158
01:07:57,519 --> 01:07:59,840
a drone. Like what what is missing?

1159
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:01,159
Speaker 2: Will? Right?

1160
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:03,599
Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, I look at this

1161
01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:07,679
article and I look at this this individual, right, you know,

1162
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:10,920
it looks like a complete winner based on based on

1163
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,480
his profile. But you look at them and and and

1164
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:19,159
you know, like, if you haven't been listening to the

1165
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:21,520
stuff Pete has been doing on the Spanish Civil War,

1166
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,720
you need to be. If you haven't been reading Mystery

1167
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,680
Groves articles on the Russian Civil War and what led

1168
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,279
up to it and the social milieu that was in

1169
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,680
Russia at the time and before the time, you need

1170
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,159
to do that, right. I know a lot of people

1171
01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:42,439
meme on Mystery Grove. I get it. But they you know,

1172
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,000
read his freakin' sub stack. Read the articles he writes,

1173
01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:49,720
especially about the Russian Civil War and the Russian Revolution. Right,

1174
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,760
it is it is extremely similar to today. The apathy, the

1175
01:08:54,760 --> 01:09:00,399
the you know, mistrust, the media, manipulation, the ssence of

1176
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:05,039
certain groups of people. Right, These are the people who

1177
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:08,479
you know they were the commissars. You know there were

1178
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,359
there were There were black American commissars in the Bolshevik Army.

1179
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,600
There were Chinese commissars in the Bolshevik Army, there were

1180
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,439
women commissars in the Bolshevik Army. Read about what Nestor

1181
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,359
Macknow and the Black Army did in the Ukraine. If

1182
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,680
you want to turn your stomach inside out, right, these

1183
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,680
these are the people like mister Decker here, right, These

1184
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,520
are the people who currently inhabit a country with you

1185
01:09:37,119 --> 01:09:43,199
and have a moral imperative within themselves to kill you

1186
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,239
and to to rape your children, to do all of

1187
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:49,800
these other horrible things to you. They believe that is

1188
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:54,600
their moral imperative. And if you believe it cannot happen here,

1189
01:09:55,199 --> 01:10:00,760
If you believe that war can never touch this kind

1190
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,279
of it's touched it before. If you believe that civil

1191
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,680
unrest that these people can't go out and and you know,

1192
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,079
God forbid organize, God forbid take over existing power structures

1193
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:16,079
that are friendly to them, because you know, we have

1194
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:18,079
no power structures in the United States. We have no

1195
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:20,920
bureaucracies in the United States that are loyal to these people.

1196
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,359
Oh no, none at all, none of them who we

1197
01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:26,119
don't have people who carry guns who would happily turn them,

1198
01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:28,159
you know, whether it's out of apathy or out of

1199
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:31,319
genuine belief on us or other people like that.

1200
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:32,359
Speaker 2: You know.

1201
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, the military is going to deffect will it?

1202
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,279
Will it? Look at this? Look at this on the screen.

1203
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1204
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: Look, you have to understand just because we've gotten Trump

1205
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,640
in the White House, and just because we've got a

1206
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,319
friendly administration. You know, the in Russia there was there

1207
01:10:56,399 --> 01:10:59,079
was I forget the name of the guy who elected

1208
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:02,119
the reactionary prime minister who had this knee jerk reaction.

1209
01:11:02,199 --> 01:11:04,520
I think it was ten years before the Russian Revolution.

1210
01:11:05,399 --> 01:11:07,359
Through a bunch of special courts, he was able to

1211
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:14,039
very competently stop this revolution immediately. I don't think you

1212
01:11:14,079 --> 01:11:19,920
all realize how the future that we were spared from

1213
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,479
by Trump having that last minute head turned in Butler,

1214
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,159
I don't. I don't think that's registered to people yet.

1215
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,479
You know, things just kind of go on as they

1216
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,000
have been. You know, you go to work every day,

1217
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:34,199
you get your paycheck every week, there's food in the

1218
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:36,279
grocery stores, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And you

1219
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:39,319
think that that's never going to end, and you think

1220
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:41,199
that nothing's going to be required of you, that you

1221
01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:44,560
aren't going to have people come and threaten you, and

1222
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,359
that you know, you don't have to be building things

1223
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:50,119
to prepare for that, you know, building networks to prepare

1224
01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:52,199
for that, and you know, indexing with people to prepare

1225
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:56,199
for that. You know, I'm not saying that I don't.

1226
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:58,279
I'm not. I'm not saying it's it's it's going to be,

1227
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,399
you know, the apocalypse. But what I am saying is that,

1228
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:07,479
you know, if you believe, if you believe that you know,

1229
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,840
things are just going to be hunky dory, and that

1230
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,079
the leftists you know, are you know, the the these

1231
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,199
these people who have castrated themselves chemically and have no future,

1232
01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:22,399
or who are homosexuals of any variety, or who are

1233
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,439
you know, die hard communists and believe you know hook

1234
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,239
line and sinker in in everything that the Communists have

1235
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:33,159
been putting into this country. You know, that's that's you know,

1236
01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:35,119
you could you could blame that on some other groups too,

1237
01:12:35,399 --> 01:12:37,600
since you know, they move their world headquarters to New

1238
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,239
York City in the eighteen nineties. And and you know,

1239
01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:43,640
if you don't believe that all that isn't going to

1240
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,319
come to a culmination, isn't going to come to a fulfillment,

1241
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:56,600
then you're not. In reality, things are coming. The OGC

1242
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,640
and other organizations exist to prepare, but things are, and

1243
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:01,560
you must prepare.

1244
01:13:03,039 --> 01:13:07,159
Speaker 3: If I may be, but we'll probably see, is just

1245
01:13:07,319 --> 01:13:13,159
more Chazz's If everyone still can't remember May of twenty twenty,

1246
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,840
as we're coming up on five years of that, it's

1247
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,319
they might have been poorly organized, they might not have

1248
01:13:22,319 --> 01:13:25,479
been armed the best, but they still shot at anybody

1249
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,600
that threatened them.

1250
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,159
Speaker 5: They how many people died be as a jazz It

1251
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,399
was a color people over two weeks. There was a

1252
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,359
color revolution in this country, and people don't want to

1253
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:37,079
accept that.

1254
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:44,399
Speaker 4: I will respectfully not not necessarily disagree, But like the

1255
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:49,079
left does have organized groups like Antifa and Chazz and

1256
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:52,359
all that. But you know, especially in like I know

1257
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,720
in the sen like Georgia there's like armed black militia

1258
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,800
groups like that. I think it's the not fucking around

1259
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,000
coalition is what they call themselves. Like you know, and

1260
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,479
a shit hits the fan scenario, like if like the

1261
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:09,640
gloves really came off, those people would definitely go crazy.

1262
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,079
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, I've seen a most professional

1263
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:20,000
documentary grade thirty to forty minute long videos on YouTube

1264
01:14:20,279 --> 01:14:24,039
where they've interviewed the Socialist Rifle Association of Philadelphia, Socialist

1265
01:14:24,119 --> 01:14:31,640
Rifle Association of Maryland chapters. They're you know, you may

1266
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,640
laugh that they're shooting in the desert and they can't

1267
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,039
hit anything to save their lives at twenty feet, but.

1268
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,359
Speaker 2: They're training.

1269
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 3: That should be the scary thing.

1270
01:14:45,039 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 5: Also, people will you know, people on our side will

1271
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,479
be like, well, you know, they won't come face to face,

1272
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:56,359
they won't do anything to you face. There's no what's

1273
01:14:56,359 --> 01:14:59,359
your defense from an ambush? What's your defense from you

1274
01:14:59,399 --> 01:15:01,520
go into this door and someone walking up behind you

1275
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,039
and putting a bullet in you? What's your defense except

1276
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:08,600
to always always be watching your six And that's a

1277
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,600
hard way to fucking live. But I mean, if this

1278
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,039
kind of it. If they keep whipping up this kind

1279
01:15:18,079 --> 01:15:23,159
of fervor going forward, then you you may have to

1280
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:24,920
live with eyes in the back of your head if

1281
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,960
you're somebody who you know is public and somebody who's

1282
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,239
you know, his name is out there, and also you know,

1283
01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:36,199
you you just have to accept the fact that you're

1284
01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:41,319
a partisan in this fight, and some partisans don't make it.

1285
01:15:43,399 --> 01:15:45,119
Speaker 2: One thing that also we'll go ahead.

1286
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,079
Speaker 4: One thing that also worries me is that law enforcement,

1287
01:15:49,359 --> 01:15:52,960
at especially at the federal level, doesn't really seem to

1288
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,199
take these groups as seriously.

1289
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:55,359
Speaker 2: As they do.

1290
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 4: You know, a bunch of idiots who just want to

1291
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,920
like go shoot guns in the wood and talk about.

1292
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: Like based stuff.

1293
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 4: And what I'm starting to worry about is, you know,

1294
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,159
what's out there that we like don't know about just

1295
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:11,920
because no one's really looking.

1296
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: For it, if you know what I mean, Like I

1297
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,039
don't know.

1298
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,039
Speaker 4: I I see these kinds of people, these kinds of

1299
01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:24,479
groups as a as a very serious threat and their

1300
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,520
capacity for the kind of damage they could do in

1301
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,800
a shit hit the fan scenario should not be underestimated.

1302
01:16:34,359 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: And in case you think that's a scenario like that

1303
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:44,039
isn't likely. Trump's world economy reorganization with the tariffs, I think,

1304
01:16:46,039 --> 01:16:49,680
you know, maybe maybe maybe maybe he's not gonna maybe

1305
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,239
he's not going to fully commit to that. But that's

1306
01:16:51,239 --> 01:16:56,399
an indication as to how fragile our current supply chain

1307
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:04,279
based existence is. You know, even if they're interrupted, even

1308
01:17:04,279 --> 01:17:07,640
if they're if they're slightly stalled, you know, what is

1309
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,760
it like the civilization's three meals away from from collapse?

1310
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1311
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, even if you have a temporary disruption of

1312
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:20,359
food going to places, you start you start seeing violence.

1313
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,119
And I think we'd be lucky if it was just

1314
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:26,880
a bunch of chazz Is, because you know, like, but

1315
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,239
but why was Jazz not Why was Chaz allowed to

1316
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:35,159
continue existing and was given all sorts of social media coverage?

1317
01:17:35,319 --> 01:17:39,880
Why was the National Guard? You know it was? Why

1318
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,600
did Trump not send the National Guard to eliminate it?

1319
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,640
Because I think Trump was was was Trump still president

1320
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,840
at that time? I was in basic training when Chazz

1321
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,520
he was Yeah, so I missed all that because I

1322
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:56,199
was at basic training. Funnily enough, but uh, but but

1323
01:17:56,199 --> 01:18:02,720
but you know who who? Why was the National Guard

1324
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,760
not sent in to basically get rid of this?

1325
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 7: This?

1326
01:18:06,359 --> 01:18:12,239
Speaker 1: Uh theoretically, this this this this revolution against state power,

1327
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,680
this setting up of an alternative state power, because it

1328
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,039
wasn't an alternative state power at all, Like Pete said,

1329
01:18:19,039 --> 01:18:21,880
it was a color revolution chas was was purposely set

1330
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,720
up or was allowed to continue existing. You know, whether

1331
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,479
it was purposely set up or not, it was allowed

1332
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,640
to continue existing, and it was given all kinds of

1333
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,720
media coverage all over the country. It's a demoralization technique.

1334
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:38,880
It's meant to demoralize. It's meant to show, oh, there's

1335
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,199
you know, there's nothing that we can do, there's chaos

1336
01:18:41,239 --> 01:18:44,560
and anarchy in the cities, et cetera, et cetera. I

1337
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,560
don't think they have that kind of power anymore because,

1338
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,600
by the grace of God, Trump is in the White House.

1339
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:53,720
But the fight is far from over. Everyone. You know,

1340
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,279
since election day, everyone's been like, oh, well, why what

1341
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,680
happened to the left? Where's the left? You know, what's

1342
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,840
going on with the left? Et cetera, et cetera. I've

1343
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,319
said things like the left is in shambles, and in

1344
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:07,159
a lot of cases it is. But you know, like

1345
01:19:07,239 --> 01:19:10,920
any army that shattered, that has its it's it's morale

1346
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,720
broken and loses a major battle, they can regroup, they

1347
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:18,880
can reorganize them, they can hit you again. And people think.

1348
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:22,079
Speaker 5: People think because usa People think because us ai D,

1349
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,399
you know, has been we don't know what usa IDA

1350
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,840
is doing. It was turned over to the Secretary Estate.

1351
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,239
We have no idea. But that doesn't matter. George Soros

1352
01:19:31,279 --> 01:19:34,920
doesn't need usai D. Bill Gates doesn't need us A

1353
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,800
i D. Billionaires you've never heard of, don't need usa

1354
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,760
i D. All they need to do is find a

1355
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,279
way and I know of certain ways that you can

1356
01:19:44,279 --> 01:19:49,399
move money around that's just untraceable and not just not

1357
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:55,119
just cryptocurrency. So people are sleeping on the fact that

1358
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:01,039
there are groups out there that are planning something. And

1359
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,800
you know, it's hard for us to believe because I

1360
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:09,880
mean most of most of us are sleeping soundly at night,

1361
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,000
not worrying about anything. Sure, we might have a gun

1362
01:20:12,039 --> 01:20:16,039
next to the bed, but you know that's that's for Yeah,

1363
01:20:16,119 --> 01:20:17,199
that's for the intruder.

1364
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: What about the mob?

1365
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 5: And then you know, somebody in the comments is going

1366
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,399
to be like, well, that's why I have that's why

1367
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:27,600
I have thirty round magazines. Okay, Well, you know, and

1368
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,159
you shoot the first one, and they and and the

1369
01:20:30,199 --> 01:20:35,119
rest of them scatter until they don't. They didn't do

1370
01:20:35,239 --> 01:20:39,920
that in Spain, so be prepared.

1371
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:48,319
Speaker 1: So on that. It's very important to study the Spanish

1372
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:51,439
Civil War and the Russian Civil Wars as examples of

1373
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:55,279
you know, because they're so close together. And I know

1374
01:20:55,279 --> 01:20:58,840
they're in different countries, different cultures, different sizes, different people,

1375
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,840
but the circumstance which led to them were so similar

1376
01:21:02,279 --> 01:21:06,560
and the outcomes were so different. It's important to study both,

1377
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:14,319
you know, like that was at Kent State. That was

1378
01:21:14,319 --> 01:21:16,560
the by the way, Kent State was the National Guard's

1379
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,439
finest moment. Everyone just so you know, what, what are

1380
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,199
the chances that they ended up? I mean except for

1381
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,319
that one poor r OTC guy that got killed. He

1382
01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:28,119
was he was just you know, he was just walking.

1383
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,239
But for the rest, I mean, man, anyway.

1384
01:21:34,119 --> 01:21:37,159
Speaker 5: Did I can I can J post every live stream

1385
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:39,319
and that's probably what's going to get this demon of.

1386
01:21:39,319 --> 01:21:48,119
Speaker 1: Test or whatever. But but but specifically speaking to Spain,

1387
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,600
right to what you talked about was Spain. What differentiated

1388
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:58,079
Spain from Russia is that the military was number one.

1389
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:00,760
Like the the communists I think in the proceeding in

1390
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,119
the preceding years were more or less sidelined from the

1391
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:05,720
Spanish military and they were not allowed to penetrate at

1392
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,159
least the high levels of high command and number two

1393
01:22:10,119 --> 01:22:15,760
under Emilia Moola. There was a very decisive coup and

1394
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,520
grabbing of ground that was done by a variety of

1395
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,119
bolt and a lot of generals who just kind of

1396
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:24,239
acted on their own initiative in a unified front. This

1397
01:22:24,319 --> 01:22:27,199
did not occur in Russia. In Russia, the response by

1398
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:31,520
the military was very disjointed. There were all kinds of infiltrators,

1399
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:34,079
but it was so well done for the for the

1400
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:37,359
for the Spanish that they were able to airlift the

1401
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:42,840
entirety of Franco's elite Moroccan army from the Spanish Africa

1402
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,000
provinces into into mainland Spain, which proved to be the

1403
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:52,840
the x factor for on the ground confrontation. And the

1404
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,479
reason that I believe that the Spanish, the Spanish nationalists,

1405
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,359
the side of of of truth and the side of

1406
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:03,520
of Sanit were by the grace of God allowed to

1407
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,760
be victorious in the Spanish Civil War was because of

1408
01:23:07,079 --> 01:23:11,439
the competency and the professionalism and the unity of force

1409
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,520
within the military, which leads us to our final topic.

1410
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:19,239
This evening which is recently. One of my favorite things

1411
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,119
that Trump has done since starting was appointing Pete Hegseth

1412
01:23:24,319 --> 01:23:26,399
as Secretary of Defense. I think it was one of

1413
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,399
his most I know, he was a Fox and Friends guy,

1414
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,880
I get it. But if you look at his combat

1415
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,800
record and you look at what he's done, you know,

1416
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,800
he was leading a platoon in Iraq.

1417
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:38,119
Speaker 2: Or was it.

1418
01:23:38,039 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: Afghant, It was one of the two, but he was.

1419
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,279
He was an infantry platoon leader. He still serves or

1420
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,640
I think up until being appointed Secretary of Defense he

1421
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:50,520
still served in the National Guard. You know, he has

1422
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,840
been known for his extremely radical views within the Department

1423
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,359
of Defense community, and I think that's why Trump picked him,

1424
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,000
you know, just simply because he was a well known

1425
01:24:00,039 --> 01:24:04,960
military man with radical views, and he's done a lot

1426
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,279
of great things. For example, he raised recently raised combat

1427
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:12,159
standards and we talked about this in another Pony Express dream,

1428
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:15,439
but he raised combat standards for combat units of physical

1429
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,840
fitness standards to the male level. Universally, females now must

1430
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,359
comply with the male PT test, which is a soft

1431
01:24:21,399 --> 01:24:23,960
ban on women in combat because they just simply it's

1432
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,439
standards they can't meet. So what you're seeing is is

1433
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,520
you know, on the lower levels, in the front line units,

1434
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,000
you're seeing a massive increase in quality. I heard he

1435
01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:37,359
recently cuts something like ninety thousand officers out of the

1436
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,159
US military, like he's ending their contracts and things like that.

1437
01:24:40,199 --> 01:24:42,880
This is excellent, this is great. But what our story

1438
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,079
that we're specifically talking about is I believe that there

1439
01:24:45,159 --> 01:24:49,199
was some leaks that came from the Pentagon as to

1440
01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:52,560
what they were doing, from from very high up general

1441
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,600
staff officials that were discovered, and I believe some generals

1442
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,239
have been fired because of that.

1443
01:25:05,399 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 2: Well, the.

1444
01:25:09,039 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 5: We knew there was leaks, we knew that they had

1445
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,960
to be they had to be found, we knew that

1446
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,920
they were embedded deep and I mean, at least we

1447
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,079
know of some of them. But I mean the when

1448
01:25:23,079 --> 01:25:26,640
you take into consideration the deep state and that these

1449
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,359
people who work at the Pentagon, and you know, they

1450
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,079
no matter who's president they worked, they're the same at

1451
01:25:32,079 --> 01:25:35,159
the State Department. Say, you know, the entrenched deep state,

1452
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:41,000
we have to assume that there's it's it's still leaking

1453
01:25:41,079 --> 01:25:45,560
like a SIEV there. So you know, there's a lot

1454
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,720
more work to do if it can be fixed at all. Now,

1455
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,000
and I'm you know, I'm of the opinion that it

1456
01:25:51,079 --> 01:25:54,479
can't be fixed, and we're you, I know where we're headed.

1457
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,399
And I think that's what what the OGC is all about,

1458
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,479
is getting ready for that, and that's why we concentrate

1459
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,239
on local chapters.

1460
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:09,319
Speaker 1: Sure, no, yeah, I recently listened to a to a

1461
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:13,199
biography of Colonel John Boyd, who is a very well

1462
01:26:13,239 --> 01:26:16,279
known military theorist and military strategist. He was a fighter

1463
01:26:16,319 --> 01:26:21,079
pilot who flew in Korea and in Vietnam, and later

1464
01:26:21,159 --> 01:26:24,840
on he created a I think he created one of

1465
01:26:25,079 --> 01:26:29,359
I think the more revolutionary works of military theory and

1466
01:26:29,399 --> 01:26:33,520
his patterns of conflict brief. You know, everyone you might

1467
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,640
know him for Oodul Loups, but you know, colonel Boyd,

1468
01:26:39,119 --> 01:26:42,279
most of his career was spent in the Pentagon as

1469
01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:44,119
soon as he as soon as he finished up his

1470
01:26:45,319 --> 01:26:47,560
days as a fighter pilot, trainer and stuff like that.

1471
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,159
But most of his days were spent in the Pentagon,

1472
01:26:51,399 --> 01:26:56,960
and it was mostly spent fighting the post war bureaucracy,

1473
01:26:57,039 --> 01:26:59,520
particularly in the Air Force, but in other branches as well.

1474
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:07,399
That has a massed itself in this building, right, So

1475
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,600
this building, you know how Aaron says, the purpose of

1476
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,479
a system is what it does. The purpose of the

1477
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,920
Pentagon is to buy weapons, because that's all it does.

1478
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:22,720
It buys weapons. It doesn't matter what the weapons are,

1479
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,640
it doesn't matter how well they work, it doesn't matter

1480
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:30,359
how strategic strategically viable they are. It just buys weapons,

1481
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,199
and that is its only raison detra And the problem

1482
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:37,720
with it is you have the high command from the

1483
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,039
Marine Corps, the Army, the Navy, Coast Guard, the Air Force,

1484
01:27:42,119 --> 01:27:47,039
all in that one building, and they're all closer to

1485
01:27:47,079 --> 01:27:49,479
each other. And you know there's inner service rivalry and stuff,

1486
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,199
but they're all closer to each other than everyone else.

1487
01:27:52,199 --> 01:27:54,880
And they're all closer to these defense contractors, and and

1488
01:27:55,319 --> 01:28:01,159
you know they have congressmen uh backing them, backing one branch,

1489
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:03,640
backing another branch, et cetera, et cetera. If you listen

1490
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,039
to this book about John Boyd, there's a movie I

1491
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:09,119
think called The Pentagon Wars. That's a that's indicative of

1492
01:28:09,159 --> 01:28:12,760
this about the I'm pretty sure it's about the I

1493
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,279
haven't seen it, but I know it's about this. I

1494
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:17,199
think it's about the creation of the Bradley. But when

1495
01:28:17,239 --> 01:28:19,399
you look into the creation of of these of these

1496
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:25,720
multi in some cases multi trillion dollar defense projects that

1497
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,119
like all lead to nothing. And you see the graft

1498
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,760
and the corruption and the lies and and and the

1499
01:28:34,279 --> 01:28:39,920
you know, this is what this building exists for. It's

1500
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,000
what it does. It has spawned up the richest it's

1501
01:28:43,039 --> 01:28:45,439
like four of the richest counties in the United States,

1502
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,840
just for people who exist to serve the economy that

1503
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:58,239
emanates from this building. And uh I I I highly

1504
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:00,600
recommend that book It's called Boyd by Robert Quorum, and

1505
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,960
the movie The Pentagon Wars. I haven't seen it, but

1506
01:29:03,039 --> 01:29:06,920
if I know it's about that book. Whoever, if you ever,

1507
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,880
if you go watch it and you know me, you

1508
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,199
can send me a message about it.

1509
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,359
Speaker 2: Was it by chance?

1510
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 5: Was did a mister field House tell you to tell

1511
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:18,399
you about Boyd?

1512
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1513
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I suppose, I suppose you could say you could say

1514
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:29,840
something like that. But but anyway, like this is this

1515
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,760
is also like this is the world I grew up in.

1516
01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:36,640
Is the economy that this building emanates. And military reform,

1517
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,279
the United States military. I know I've been talking for

1518
01:29:39,319 --> 01:29:41,680
a while, but you know, I'm probably gonna have anything

1519
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,359
you gentlemen have to say but the United States military,

1520
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,199
it's still the most powerful military on earth, don't get

1521
01:29:48,199 --> 01:29:52,359
me wrong, but it is in a very bad place,

1522
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,680
a very bad place, and it starts at the top.

1523
01:29:55,279 --> 01:29:57,720
So one of my favorite things that hag Seth has

1524
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,720
been saying that he's doing, and even like with these

1525
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,359
lead I think even he's he's starting to do, is

1526
01:30:02,359 --> 01:30:06,359
he's firing these generals. He's getting rid of them, right

1527
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,079
because you know, you know this, Peete. The reason that

1528
01:30:09,119 --> 01:30:12,359
the Spanish Army was able to react so strongly to

1529
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,720
what happened in nineteen thirty six was because of the

1530
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,920
unity of the high command, or at least enough unity

1531
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:23,199
amongst the high command to react for us absolutely, and

1532
01:30:23,319 --> 01:30:27,039
if something like this happens in the United States, I

1533
01:30:27,079 --> 01:30:31,720
hope to God that we have at least enough of

1534
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,600
a high command because you know, like, like I'm not

1535
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,760
saying I don't I don't want to start speculating, but

1536
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,159
I would like to have something similar if something similar

1537
01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:47,840
was attempted here. And I genuinely believe in hope what

1538
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,680
mister heg Seth has been doing. Secretary of heg Seth,

1539
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:53,800
I hope that he is able to do everything that

1540
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,159
he wants to do because the military, you know, it's

1541
01:30:57,199 --> 01:30:59,960
not that the military is incompetent, it's that it's politicized.

1542
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,920
It's that is politicized to serve certain bureaucratic interests, would

1543
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,279
serve certain ideological interests. And I don't know if he's

1544
01:31:07,319 --> 01:31:10,319
going to get all of it. I hope he gets

1545
01:31:10,359 --> 01:31:13,640
all of it. That is the biggest issue that I'm

1546
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:14,159
afraid of.

1547
01:31:20,039 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's I think we've talked about that before.

1548
01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Is that.

1549
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:30,279
Speaker 5: The the double edged sort of trying to get our

1550
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:35,479
guys in the military, where yeah, we have people who

1551
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:42,399
are loyal to America, but also you know when you

1552
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,359
look at the when we look at the high command

1553
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:49,760
and the generals and the wokeness and the oh I

1554
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,039
need to examine my privilege, and you know, when you

1555
01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:57,880
understand that a general actually has like a fiefdom all

1556
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:03,039
to himself, you know, the culture has to change. It's

1557
01:32:03,119 --> 01:32:05,720
just like it's just like society. I mean, the military

1558
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,920
is just a society, and the culture has to change. So, yeah,

1559
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,680
if it comes down to what we think it's going

1560
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,920
to come down to, and the military's there, you know,

1561
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:21,199
going back to the nationalists in Spain, Yeah, the military

1562
01:32:21,319 --> 01:32:24,079
high command and the generals. I mean, there were generals

1563
01:32:24,119 --> 01:32:27,640
who sided with the nationalists, who just sided with the

1564
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,720
nationalists because they felt that they had to and their

1565
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,920
inner loyalties were to the other side. That's how strong,

1566
01:32:36,399 --> 01:32:41,359
that's how what a's tie, how tied together they were.

1567
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,720
But you know, in a situation like this where we're

1568
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:50,359
at right now, and especially after eighty years of this poison,

1569
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:55,159
just this, you know, this absolute occupation that we've been under,

1570
01:32:56,119 --> 01:32:58,800
if it started tomorrow, who the hell knows what would happen.

1571
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: No.

1572
01:33:02,119 --> 01:33:05,119
Speaker 1: I I hope to god it doesn't start tomorrow, but

1573
01:33:05,159 --> 01:33:08,119
I don't think it will. I think we have I

1574
01:33:08,119 --> 01:33:10,840
think we have at least some time. Yeah, there you go,

1575
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,199
there you go. You know, these are as you see,

1576
01:33:15,239 --> 01:33:16,760
these are these are you know, these are white guys.

1577
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,000
There's a black guy there you have, but these are

1578
01:33:18,039 --> 01:33:20,800
white guys. These are you know, fighting age men. Look

1579
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:21,399
what they're holding.

1580
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1581
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in the Air Force. Okay, the Air Force

1582
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:29,600
kind of sucks, but you know that's a multi multi

1583
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:34,640
million dollar killing machine behind them, you know, And just

1584
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,000
you think that just because they have these political beliefs,

1585
01:33:37,039 --> 01:33:39,319
they all of the sudden, you know, stopped knowing how

1586
01:33:39,319 --> 01:33:45,640
to kill people. Don't be foolish, mister, mister Frost that

1587
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,039
we've been We've been talking for a while to either

1588
01:33:47,079 --> 01:33:49,800
of you have any any judgments on this on the

1589
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,680
state of the military and what mister Hegseeth is doing well.

1590
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:59,359
Speaker 3: I was gonna say this, the Democrats really misjudged the

1591
01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:03,479
situation because Obama did a very good job of I

1592
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,720
don't want to say purging the Officer Court, but he

1593
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,439
did a good job of clearing house of our guys

1594
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:16,279
between two thousand and nine and twenty sixteen. And Republicans

1595
01:34:16,279 --> 01:34:19,079
some must like, we don't want to play the Left games,

1596
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:22,039
like if they've given us the precedent, we got to

1597
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:22,439
use it.

1598
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:24,279
Speaker 2: We just have to.

1599
01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: And Trump didn't go after the Officer Court, and he

1600
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:33,199
wondered why orders weren't followed of pulling troops out of

1601
01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:37,960
Syria because the people that were there had the vested

1602
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,239
interest and were committed to the cause, and we're willing

1603
01:34:40,279 --> 01:34:44,399
to do the I'm not going to compare keeping US

1604
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,119
troops in Syria to the Spanish airlift.

1605
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 4: But.

1606
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 3: Completely disregarding the head of state, as you said, the

1607
01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:54,119
sole body of it is done through the executive trip

1608
01:34:54,199 --> 01:34:56,880
placements are also done through the executive to a degree,

1609
01:34:57,199 --> 01:34:59,279
and that was under his purview because we don't have

1610
01:34:59,319 --> 01:35:02,319
an we didn't have a sign declaration of war against Seriously,

1611
01:35:02,359 --> 01:35:07,000
they had no reason to be there. They're willing to

1612
01:35:07,359 --> 01:35:12,199
They've already shown that they're willing to play by their rules.

1613
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:13,680
Throw them all out.

1614
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,279
Speaker 1: What was it? How the heck?

1615
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 3: Remember the guy who graduated West Point that the shit the.

1616
01:35:24,359 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: Dude who was in he was apparently a ranger with

1617
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:29,159
the CIB and everything.

1618
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,039
Speaker 3: It's insane when you think about it, that the left

1619
01:35:35,159 --> 01:35:37,359
got that far. The only issue was is that they

1620
01:35:37,399 --> 01:35:40,840
didn't They didn't count that the Republicans would do anything

1621
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,359
crazy like run Donald Trump because frankly, if you look

1622
01:35:43,359 --> 01:35:48,039
at the rest of the field from twenty sixteen, anybody

1623
01:35:48,039 --> 01:35:48,840
else would have lost.

1624
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,119
Speaker 1: Allow me to insert something real quick, right, the Republicans

1625
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:59,079
didn't run Donald Trump. Donald Trump ran the Republicans. And

1626
01:35:59,119 --> 01:36:01,920
that's something I want ever single one of you two internalize.

1627
01:36:02,319 --> 01:36:06,239
There is no organization other than Trump right now. There

1628
01:36:06,279 --> 01:36:07,960
This is a this is a mystery Grove point, but

1629
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,600
I'm going to happily repeat it. There is no organization

1630
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,840
other than Trump right now. Without Trump there's nothing. Trump

1631
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,760
goes away, our whole counter offensive goes away, our whole

1632
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,840
ability to apply pressure to these people, to take away

1633
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,720
their funding, to put them in prison. Right that it

1634
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,079
goes away, do you what you think You think you

1635
01:36:31,119 --> 01:36:33,439
think Marco Rubio is going to is going to be

1636
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,840
loyal to mag Ideas after Trump is gone? You think

1637
01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:38,680
you think you know, I maybe you could say something

1638
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,039
about Vance. I don't want to. I want to withhold

1639
01:36:41,079 --> 01:36:43,920
judgment on Dvance. But you think you know Tulsi Gabbard

1640
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:47,399
is gonna is gonna stay the way she is. You

1641
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,000
think that this, this whole coalition that's been forged together

1642
01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:53,239
by literally the force of will of one man, you

1643
01:36:53,279 --> 01:36:59,560
think that's going to continue. No, No, it's not. The

1644
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,920
og see IS is a great organization, but it's still

1645
01:37:03,039 --> 01:37:06,279
more or less in infancy. There's only so much we

1646
01:37:06,319 --> 01:37:09,279
can do join it right now to help us. But

1647
01:37:09,319 --> 01:37:11,600
there's only so much we can do right now. These

1648
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:17,079
people have had decades, decades, almost a century to organize

1649
01:37:17,399 --> 01:37:23,920
with explicit legal support, with legal funding. They have whole

1650
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:28,560
packs that exist. Look right here, Yeah, they have whole

1651
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,840
packs that Yeah, this guy wasn't just some just some

1652
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,880
guy either he was like, you see right there, that

1653
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,479
thing at the top, that's a cibu he. I believe

1654
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,560
that before he went to West Point he was a ranger.

1655
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:39,960
I read up on his story. I think he was

1656
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,880
in seventy fifth Rangeer Regiment, which is an extremely elite unit.

1657
01:37:43,319 --> 01:37:46,960
He's not just some guy, you know, He's not just

1658
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,880
some some some college kid. This is a dude who

1659
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:55,239
had been in for a while, you know, and and

1660
01:37:55,399 --> 01:37:58,439
in elite units. Mind you you think you think that

1661
01:37:59,239 --> 01:38:03,600
I have. I know I have anecdotal things of friends

1662
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,319
of mine who have been in Green Beret units and

1663
01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:08,039
stuff like that, and they know they know people exactly

1664
01:38:08,119 --> 01:38:11,600
like this guy. You know why, because extremists tend to

1665
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,199
be attracted to extreme things, and we do not have

1666
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:20,760
a monopoly on the extremist camp. And these people can

1667
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,600
learn how to be physically active and fit. So but

1668
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,640
but you know, to bring this back to my point,

1669
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,760
bleeding Camp, I'm going to bring up an American example.

1670
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:36,039
Take Bleeding Kansas. Bleeding Kansas, which was a fight over

1671
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,720
over the statehood of Kansas and whether Kansas was going

1672
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,239
to be a free state or a slave state. Right

1673
01:38:43,319 --> 01:38:48,199
due to something called popular sovereignty, Kansas was mostly populated

1674
01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:51,079
by settlers from Missouri, which was a slave state, southern

1675
01:38:51,159 --> 01:38:57,600
leaning slave state. But the Northern abolitionists did not want

1676
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,960
another slave state to be allowed. So what they started

1677
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:04,760
doing was they organized, They started funding people to move

1678
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,279
to Kansas, to set up towns, and then when the

1679
01:39:10,319 --> 01:39:13,279
Missourians kind of knew what they were doing, they went

1680
01:39:13,319 --> 01:39:15,960
and started attacking them, started burning their towns, et cetera,

1681
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:23,479
et cetera, and it got violent, and the Missourians were,

1682
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:27,159
you know, better trained. Individually, they were better. They were cavalrymen,

1683
01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:29,239
they had horses, they knew the terrain. But it didn't

1684
01:39:29,279 --> 01:39:32,479
matter because the abolitionists coming from the north, had organization,

1685
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:38,800
had money, had funding, had you know, legal support in case,

1686
01:39:39,039 --> 01:39:42,880
you know, they had had friends in Washington, and so

1687
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,600
they were able. They won. Kansas was a free state.

1688
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:52,239
And this is this is the same atmosphere we and

1689
01:39:52,359 --> 01:39:55,359
we are the Missourians. We are not we are not

1690
01:39:56,359 --> 01:39:58,640
the Northerners moving and we are the Missourians or at

1691
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,399
least like them. Individual we're pretty good, you know, individually,

1692
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,720
we're pretty we're pretty skilled, but we don't have organization

1693
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,800
and we don't have even you know, we have the OGC,

1694
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:12,000
and that's something, but you know, compared to what they have,

1695
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:17,079
they have decades, they have all kinds of money that

1696
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:20,000
you can't even dream of. They've got people within the

1697
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:24,800
Armed Services, within the intelligence. Yeah, John Brown right there, Yeah, exactly.

1698
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:29,840
John Brown was birthed, was birthed from bleeding Kansas, right,

1699
01:40:30,399 --> 01:40:32,680
And what did that lead to? You see it right

1700
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:36,560
there on the screen. You know that this is the thing.

1701
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,159
I know, I've been on my soapbox for a while,

1702
01:40:40,119 --> 01:40:41,800
and I probably should bring this home in here because

1703
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,520
you know, we're getting close to two hours and we've

1704
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,960
got some super chats to read, and I'm gonna let

1705
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,439
any of you gentlemen add anything on after this before

1706
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:53,119
we go to super chats. But I'll bring it home here.

1707
01:40:54,800 --> 01:41:01,880
Without Trump, without all of Trump's marshals, we have nothing.

1708
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,800
The leftists, they have been hurt. This is the first

1709
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,520
big defeat they've gotten in a very long time. But

1710
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:16,239
they have reserves of menpower of money, of capability of TEFTT.

1711
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,199
They've got it too. And we need to wake up

1712
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,399
and realize that you can't just go back to grilling.

1713
01:41:26,079 --> 01:41:29,880
You can't just go back to your video games or whatever. Else,

1714
01:41:31,399 --> 01:41:35,920
you need to understand that the CounterPunch is coming, the

1715
01:41:36,079 --> 01:41:39,960
bigger CounterPunch. Trump in twenty twenty. Yeah, that was unprecedented.

1716
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:46,359
But you ain't seen nothing yet. I think that you know,

1717
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,079
I wrote some articles a few years ago, and I'm

1718
01:41:50,079 --> 01:41:52,000
not going to tell you what they were about, but

1719
01:41:52,039 --> 01:41:57,359
I wrote some articles a few years ago that I

1720
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,640
felt then and I'm starting and I went away for

1721
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,039
a few years, but I'm starting to see again now

1722
01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:06,560
is I don't think we're just going to get out

1723
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,800
of it that easy. So pray to God that we

1724
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,920
can use this time that has been given us to prepare,

1725
01:42:14,399 --> 01:42:18,119
to get ready, and pray that Trump and his officials

1726
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:20,800
can do whatever it is that they can do to

1727
01:42:21,039 --> 01:42:23,079
rip out as much and to set up as much

1728
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:29,000
as possible. But be ready because things will be required

1729
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:29,239
of you.

1730
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,039
Speaker 4: It would honestly shock and terrify you the complete and

1731
01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:41,039
total lack of imagination and courage and understanding of what

1732
01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:44,520
time it is that permeates the place that I work

1733
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,359
and the people that I work for and work with.

1734
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's it's, there's there's what is it amongst

1735
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,159
the young guys, there's hope, but they don't have control.

1736
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:06,239
Speaker 12: So so mister Fosco ahead, Oh, I was gonna say,

1737
01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:12,520
I mean, and again, my entire lifetime has been one

1738
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:17,960
giant I'm gonna say, black pill effectively up until recently.

1739
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,520
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if anyone remembers the Bundy Ranch

1740
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,279
stand off back in twenty fourteen where it almost got

1741
01:43:26,319 --> 01:43:32,399
real close to another Lexington and Concord level event that

1742
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:40,359
was just government v people, not just leftist partisans. So

1743
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:45,920
it's we've had we've had close calls, We've gotten lucky.

1744
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:50,000
This this amount of time has been a gift. Let's

1745
01:43:50,039 --> 01:43:51,119
not waste any more of it.

1746
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,279
Speaker 1: No, wars don't happen because they're rational. Wars happened because

1747
01:43:56,279 --> 01:44:03,159
people believe they can and they want them to. All right, Pete,

1748
01:44:03,159 --> 01:44:05,079
you got anything or should we go to super chats?

1749
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to super chests? All right?

1750
01:44:10,199 --> 01:44:13,560
Speaker 1: So imagine my lack of shekel. Well, I uh, I

1751
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,800
guess I have to because you're giving us money for

1752
01:44:16,039 --> 01:44:18,920
fifteen dollars, he says.

1753
01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

1754
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:23,239
Speaker 1: Rip four Chan really gonna miss the Schizo posts from

1755
01:44:23,239 --> 01:44:26,760
government contractors in Antarctica about twenty five foot tall spider

1756
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,840
demons wiping out the entire Special Forces security detail in

1757
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:35,880
football stadium sized usos in the Caribbean, vaporizing incoming Navy aircraft.

1758
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:40,159
I think he uh, yeah, yeah, I four Chan man,

1759
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:48,560
it was a special place. Mellon. For five dollars, he says,

1760
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,439
four Chan strikes me as something that was set up

1761
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,760
as a weapon or honeypot by evil people, but held

1762
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,039
the seeds of their destruction. Many such cases with the

1763
01:44:58,039 --> 01:45:00,760
works of our opposition and the opponents of God generally

1764
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,079
so true. No, yeah, Fourtune was a major vector of

1765
01:45:04,199 --> 01:45:05,920
us I think, Pete, you mentioned this fortune was a

1766
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,960
major vector of intelligence operations from a certain group of people.

1767
01:45:12,319 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 2: One. Yeah.

1768
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,239
Speaker 1: It was also a great vector of learning truth. But

1769
01:45:19,279 --> 01:45:25,239
you know, el th Empler Cringey for five bucks, says

1770
01:45:25,359 --> 01:45:27,880
on Easter Sunday, we get the end of month three

1771
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,119
of this forty five months remain. You have to keep

1772
01:45:31,159 --> 01:45:33,920
this in your mind if things go bad. Yep, this

1773
01:45:34,039 --> 01:45:44,800
is true. We've got forty five months left. Elfempler again,

1774
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,239
for five bucks, he asks, Pete, have you read or

1775
01:45:48,319 --> 01:45:51,960
streamed about Antonio Gromsky's prison notebooks? Very good insight into

1776
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:52,840
the goals of the enemy.

1777
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 2: I have not, but I know the perfect person I

1778
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:57,640
can do that.

1779
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: With yeah, I think, mister Pete, I think that's that's

1780
01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:03,600
something that you should look into because the tactics have

1781
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,800
not much and the strategy has not much changed.

1782
01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 5: Well, the right keeps falling for it, and well the

1783
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,920
right won't fight, they won't use the same tactics to

1784
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,039
fight their enemy.

1785
01:46:17,079 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, and we could we can make all kinds

1786
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,359
of discussions about that as to like whether that's a

1787
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,239
constitutional difference between the type of people that make up

1788
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:25,840
the left and the type of people that make up

1789
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,720
the right. What the right does, and like Trump is

1790
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,239
a great example does. What the right does is they

1791
01:46:32,319 --> 01:46:36,720
wait for some kind of you know, great man to

1792
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,039
come along, and you know, every so often they are rewarded,

1793
01:46:40,359 --> 01:46:42,279
and that's when they make their stand, is when they

1794
01:46:42,279 --> 01:46:46,079
have the great man right. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work

1795
01:46:46,079 --> 01:46:51,159
for them. General Wrangel in Russia was that great man.

1796
01:46:51,279 --> 01:46:55,199
Unfortunately he was too little, too late. But in Spain

1797
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,000
when General Mola and then I think general who's General mol?

1798
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:02,239
Do you know General Molis in command because it was

1799
01:47:02,279 --> 01:47:04,159
both him and the and there was.

1800
01:47:04,079 --> 01:47:06,520
Speaker 4: Marshall Sanjuzo, right or however you say his last name?

1801
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,319
Speaker 2: Yes, So, yeah, both.

1802
01:47:09,159 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Mola and San Gejo died and Franco who's third in command?

1803
01:47:13,039 --> 01:47:15,239
You know, that's the thing, right, this is the thing.

1804
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,920
This is another great thing. As to the Spanish army,

1805
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:21,720
the chain of command was clear, It was very clear.

1806
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,399
There was no difficulty in who the succession was. This

1807
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,119
was not the case in the Russian army. Kolchak took

1808
01:47:27,159 --> 01:47:29,760
over in a coup, but there were like five or

1809
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,319
six generals claiming overall command and well, and it was

1810
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,000
even when Vrangel was given overall command at that point

1811
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,239
it was it was too late. So this is this

1812
01:47:38,319 --> 01:47:40,640
is this is a flaw amongst the right is that

1813
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,319
is that we wait for great men to come along

1814
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:48,640
to kind of fix everything at once, and it you know,

1815
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,239
the the left is just simply more consistent over a

1816
01:47:51,239 --> 01:47:53,960
longer period of time. You know, we can do great

1817
01:47:54,039 --> 01:47:57,159
feats in a very short period of time, and typically

1818
01:47:57,239 --> 01:47:59,520
that's when we win. The reason, I think the reason

1819
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,359
the national the reason nationalist one was just because of

1820
01:48:02,399 --> 01:48:04,840
the lightning operations in the first few weeks of the war.

1821
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:07,279
You know, they were able to grab so much so

1822
01:48:07,399 --> 01:48:11,760
quickly that the the and the socialists just they just

1823
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:16,880
didn't have the the edge to beat the professional trade

1824
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:20,520
military forces. But it still took a while because they

1825
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,119
have the bodies. So this is the thing is, it's

1826
01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:26,359
like it's like the right winds through speed and through

1827
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:30,800
excellent coordination. But we're a glass cannon. We are a

1828
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,000
glass cannon. If you don't get it right the first time,

1829
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:40,479
immediately you know it. It like the Confederacy, you know,

1830
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,840
the Confederacy could be described with three words initially very successful.

1831
01:48:46,279 --> 01:48:49,319
And that could be the whole of the right described

1832
01:48:49,359 --> 01:48:52,680
in three words, initially very successful. And that's something we

1833
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,359
all need to keep in mind. If you got a

1834
01:48:55,399 --> 01:48:57,359
lot out, oh go ahead, go ahead.

1835
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, if I may interject the Spanish,

1836
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,039
I'm no real expert on the Spanish Civil War, but

1837
01:49:03,079 --> 01:49:07,760
I've read a little bit. The Spanish left was very

1838
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:13,239
similar to the Russian right in the Russian Civil War. That, yes,

1839
01:49:14,039 --> 01:49:16,960
were they. I'd say that frankly, they were the ones

1840
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,399
initially successful because they were controlling the political scene and

1841
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,680
the political violence at least five years before the conflict began.

1842
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:33,319
They but they were very weak. They couldn't agree, they

1843
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,760
couldn't come to a who was in charge, same with

1844
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:39,239
the Russians. The White Russians in the Civil War, when

1845
01:49:39,279 --> 01:49:45,920
pressure was applied, they crumbled. Granted, with enough guns and

1846
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,920
tanks from the Soviets, anything can be propped up for

1847
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:51,039
a few more years. But that fundamentally was a difference

1848
01:49:51,079 --> 01:49:56,239
because they were in fighting while trying to fight the

1849
01:49:56,239 --> 01:50:02,880
Spanish right you know, Orwell wrote about it that was

1850
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,319
the big issue. The Russian White Army also experienced the

1851
01:50:06,319 --> 01:50:11,199
same issue. It's it's equal parts the you know, coronation,

1852
01:50:11,319 --> 01:50:14,239
but also just fundamentally the tucking away of egos, and

1853
01:50:14,359 --> 01:50:20,079
that is I'm gonna say a universal thread that we

1854
01:50:20,199 --> 01:50:23,960
on the right sometimes we all dream of being the

1855
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,720
great man. But sometimes you just have to put the

1856
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,800
ego away and accept that you are at a certain level.

1857
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,159
And sometimes you get presented with, oh, hey, your promotion

1858
01:50:32,279 --> 01:50:34,079
because two guys ahead of you just died.

1859
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:43,359
Speaker 1: But I think that's very insightful, specifically that one sentence

1860
01:50:43,359 --> 01:50:45,359
you said, they're everyone on the right dreams that they

1861
01:50:45,399 --> 01:50:47,880
can be the great man. I think that is something

1862
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:52,159
that that very much does work against us, and you

1863
01:50:52,199 --> 01:50:54,199
are right, it is, you know, the putting away of

1864
01:50:54,279 --> 01:50:57,680
egos is a it's something I think that very much

1865
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,560
is that I think does the OGC does very well,

1866
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,680
but how many organizations are like us. They're almost none.

1867
01:51:05,079 --> 01:51:06,399
And that that made scare you.

1868
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:10,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, the right in Spain you had, you had the military,

1869
01:51:10,279 --> 01:51:14,920
you had the following gay and you had the the Carlists,

1870
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,880
and they basically they were the reason they won.

1871
01:51:19,399 --> 01:51:21,119
Speaker 2: First of all God.

1872
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:25,600
Speaker 5: Second of all, they put they put aside their their

1873
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:31,359
differences and they they all were different people. And the

1874
01:51:31,359 --> 01:51:36,840
the left was just a split between communists, anarchists, left libertarians,

1875
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the you know, the Republicans which were on the left,

1876
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and they couldn't they couldn't come together. They they would

1877
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:48,359
like if if if they weren't a battle together and

1878
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,279
a left libertarian fell.

1879
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: The anarchists would laugh.

1880
01:51:53,279 --> 01:51:58,079
Speaker 5: So yeah, So, and that the right in this country

1881
01:51:58,159 --> 01:52:02,960
right now is, if I would say, the real the

1882
01:52:03,079 --> 01:52:06,720
real right, it is just as fractured as the left

1883
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:07,359
was in Spain.

1884
01:52:10,079 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 1: And and you know, at the very least, the left

1885
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:16,199
is currently in civil war between it's h it's it's

1886
01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:19,399
more moderate faction and it's a more progressive faction. I think,

1887
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,880
I don't think that's something that's gone gone away yet,

1888
01:52:23,039 --> 01:52:27,840
but the radical faction is absolutely making moves, and the

1889
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:34,479
radical factions maintaining a sort of unity. Particularly I think

1890
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,199
with the with the with the story we didn't cover

1891
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:39,720
about the horrible thing that happened in Texas, with those

1892
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:44,960
two high school students. They've they've they have, Yeah, exactly,

1893
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,479
They're they're doubling down. They're not They're not giving up

1894
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,800
their ludicrous ideology. And I think that is a unifying

1895
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,880
factor for them. Wrong as it is, and it's something

1896
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,800
that we need to look at and we need to,

1897
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,880
you know, join the o GC. If if you're somehow,

1898
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,840
if you're one of the three hundred and ninety nine

1899
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,479
people still watching this and you're somehow not in the

1900
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:10,159
OGC yet, figure out how to do it right. It

1901
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:16,119
like and it just it's like it. I don't know

1902
01:53:16,159 --> 01:53:18,159
of anyone else right now. I'm sure there are people

1903
01:53:18,159 --> 01:53:20,560
out there. I know the John Birch Society is doing

1904
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:25,920
very well. But we need to have this glut of organizations,

1905
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,439
these redundancies the way that the left does, and we

1906
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:32,199
need to do it in a way that's above board

1907
01:53:32,239 --> 01:53:36,159
and that has sticking power. So you got a lot

1908
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:42,000
out out of your super chat, Gridgie. There's always one,

1909
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:46,159
all right. Moving on Solid Snake nineteen sixty four for

1910
01:53:46,239 --> 01:53:49,439
ten US dollars, he says, evening, gents, late again, But

1911
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,239
I have a good excuse. This week I was celebrating

1912
01:53:52,279 --> 01:53:55,199
Holy Thursday, Mass tonight and remembrance of the Last Supper

1913
01:53:55,239 --> 01:53:58,119
and the institution of the Eucharist. On Saturday, I'll be

1914
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:01,760
finally confirmed the Lord. Have a great Easter to all.

1915
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,800
Salute the OGC Well, thank you Solid Snake nineteen sixty four.

1916
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,760
Congratulations on being confirmed. I hope you uh, I hope

1917
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:10,880
it was edifying for you.

1918
01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:13,399
Speaker 2: Congratulations brother.

1919
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:19,119
Speaker 1: All right Balerro three nine three for five US dollars,

1920
01:54:19,319 --> 01:54:25,479
Rest in eternal peace. Austin Metcalf. Indeed, Aaron McIntyre had

1921
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:28,520
a great stream on the difference between biblical and therapeutic forgiveness.

1922
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1923
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, that's something I think that needs

1924
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:36,840
to be spread, that needs to very much be talked

1925
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,840
about in great details. That forgiveness means nothing if you

1926
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,560
just if you just if you just give it to

1927
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:47,960
them after nothing Forgiveness must follow repentance. Celebration and grift

1928
01:54:48,039 --> 01:54:52,560
are not repentance. May justice prevail. I completely agree. I

1929
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,479
completely agree. I know we didn't. We didn't want to.

1930
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,960
We didn't want to cover this story for obvious reasons,

1931
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,720
because you know, I don't think the good people who

1932
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,760
watch this need to see, need to have need to

1933
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:09,239
be reminded that horrible things like this happened in this country. Yeah, exactly, absolutely,

1934
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,479
they don't need to be reminded that horrible things like

1935
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:17,920
this happened in this country. But no, I believe God

1936
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,800
will judge this family. I very much believe God will

1937
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,359
judge this family for what they've done.

1938
01:55:24,119 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 2: And already he already has look at him.

1939
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, I hope he saves the rest of us.

1940
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:46,119
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, Well, I believe I believe

1941
01:55:46,199 --> 01:55:52,159
that you know, things like this will stop one day

1942
01:55:53,039 --> 01:55:58,439
very soon, and then finally last last super or not

1943
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:03,600
last super chat, Kosher don Bacon for ten bucks says salute, gentlemen,

1944
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:08,079
I just learned to Internet tonight. Well to congratulations. We're

1945
01:56:08,159 --> 01:56:10,279
very glad that you that you've found your way here.

1946
01:56:15,359 --> 01:56:17,560
Thank you very much for your patrons, sir. And then

1947
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,159
the last super chat that we have this evening, unless

1948
01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:23,079
you unless someone sends in a quick buzzer beater, uh

1949
01:56:23,439 --> 01:56:25,760
when we go when we go to final thoughts and

1950
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:30,239
shilling is from Inquisition Railroad for five dollars with no text,

1951
01:56:30,399 --> 01:56:32,960
just a five dollars gift. Thank you, mister Inquisition Railroad,

1952
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:35,239
and thank you all of you who have super chatted it.

1953
01:56:35,399 --> 01:56:37,960
You know, these small amounts of money really do go

1954
01:56:38,039 --> 01:56:43,359
a long way in keeping the club running and you know,

1955
01:56:43,479 --> 01:56:45,479
allowing us to do those things that we need to

1956
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:49,800
do to keep this brotherhood alive, grow this brotherhood and

1957
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,800
prepare for what's coming for the future. So God bless

1958
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,279
you also, and as a matter of fact, thank you

1959
01:56:54,279 --> 01:56:56,319
to all of you and the audience who have substack

1960
01:56:56,359 --> 01:56:59,920
subscriptions with us as well. We're very grateful for that.

1961
01:57:00,359 --> 01:57:04,640
It really that is really what keeps the club running.

1962
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,319
Your super chats are also very great, so thank you

1963
01:57:08,399 --> 01:57:12,920
all very much. Gentlemen. Actually, starting with mister pet, you

1964
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,119
have any final thoughts anything we've talked about this evening.

1965
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 5: No, just stay of vigilant. This, I mean, relaxing at

1966
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:29,640
this point is a huge mistake. Yeah, I mean gets

1967
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:34,279
together with people of like mind, be ready to come

1968
01:57:34,359 --> 01:57:37,680
to each other's aid no matter no matter what it is,

1969
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:45,359
and that's the way collectivize or die.

1970
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:49,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely, mister Frost, do you have any final thoughts on

1971
01:57:49,079 --> 01:57:49,920
anything we've talked about?

1972
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 3: This evening just just a wrap up of general ideas

1973
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:57,319
from this stream. Is just we're on the precipice of

1974
01:57:57,319 --> 01:58:02,560
either greatness or absolute catastrophe. We cannot rest on our laurels.

1975
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,520
We cannot wait. Then, you know, the Civil War was

1976
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:09,680
able to drag on for two bloody more years after

1977
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:14,720
Gettysburg because Mead didn't instantly move to defeat the Confederates

1978
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,680
that were in slight to surray before they fled back

1979
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:24,319
to Virginia. We can't afford to let that happen.

1980
01:58:25,159 --> 01:58:31,479
Speaker 1: H No, we cannot. And finally, mister Cook, thank you

1981
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,079
very much for coming on this evening. Do you have

1982
01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:34,399
any final thoughts for anything?

1983
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 2: No, not really.

1984
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty good discussion tonight, and I

1985
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:44,560
wholeheartedly agree with the points everyone raised before me.

1986
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Outstanding. All right, finally on to shilling Pete. What you got.

1987
01:58:51,279 --> 01:58:54,119
Speaker 2: Peek show Pete subsack dot com. That's it.

1988
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:59,319
Speaker 5: Just release an episode. This, just release an episode with Thomas.

1989
01:58:59,439 --> 01:59:03,239
We're starting a series. It could go for a year

1990
01:59:04,119 --> 01:59:09,920
on continental philosophy. We did this is just just release

1991
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:17,119
the introduction episode. And we didn't even get into facidities

1992
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:22,640
and pericles and the Peloponnesian War. It's just just an

1993
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:24,600
introduction and that was an hour.

1994
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Speaker 2: A lot more to.

1995
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Come Outstanding, mister Frost, do you have anything to show?

1996
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 3: The only thing I can show is if you're in

1997
01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:35,760
eastern PA.

1998
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Speaker 2: Somehow.

1999
01:59:37,359 --> 01:59:41,119
Speaker 3: If anyone is still in Delaware West, you know, eastern

2000
01:59:41,159 --> 01:59:44,000
part of Maryland, or in New Jersey and you're looking

2001
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:49,199
to join, go to the website. There's our email reach out. Also,

2002
01:59:49,239 --> 01:59:51,000
if you're on the western half of the state of PA,

2003
01:59:51,119 --> 01:59:54,680
we have the Pittsburgh chapter that just spun up. They've

2004
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:59,399
been added to the website, I believe, and you know,

2005
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,640
keep an eye out. If you were in central PA.

2006
02:00:02,119 --> 02:00:04,600
It's not there yet, but they were at the event,

2007
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:10,119
so keep an eye out for if that chapter finally

2008
02:00:10,159 --> 02:00:12,199
crosses the finish line and you can join up there.

2009
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There's no real excuse, there's no dues yet, so it

2010
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:17,840
doesn't cost you anything.

2011
02:00:18,239 --> 02:00:20,279
Speaker 1: It's got a not.

2012
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Speaker 3: It's got to show a little discipline, and that's it.

2013
02:00:25,439 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 1: Outstanding. And then finally, mister Cook, do you have anything

2014
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:29,039
to show?

2015
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 2: I've just got two things. My personal substack.

2016
02:00:34,279 --> 02:00:38,399
Speaker 4: I will be releasing some pretty in depth articles about

2017
02:00:38,439 --> 02:00:42,760
the eighteen sixty four Overland campaign, so doing reading up

2018
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,840
on the Battle of the Wilderness to start that endeavor.

2019
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,760
And then a friend of mine and I have started

2020
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:52,079
a substack called the Capitol Caller where we'll be trying

2021
02:00:52,079 --> 02:00:57,079
to bring OGC guys in the right in general, the

2022
02:00:57,119 --> 02:01:01,039
inside scoop of what's going on underneath the underneath the

2023
02:01:01,079 --> 02:01:05,079
dome doom from within the dome, you can say, so, yeah,

2024
02:01:05,119 --> 02:01:06,920
please give those a follow.

2025
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:08,359
Speaker 2: And that's all I got to say.

2026
02:01:09,199 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 1: Outstanding. Yeah, And I very much enjoyed the article that

2027
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,600
you wrote for the OGC very recently, They Shall not

2028
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:19,359
Grow Old. I thought it was wonderful.

2029
02:01:20,239 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2030
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, gentlemen, thank you very much for joining

2031
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,000
me this evening. Thank you all who are listening for

2032
02:01:28,079 --> 02:01:29,960
joining us this evening. Thank you to all the super

2033
02:01:30,079 --> 02:01:34,479
chatters and the general supporters. This has been Pony Express Radio.

2034
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,479
Next week Red Hawk will be back in his normal,

2035
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,920
regularly scheduled programming. But I hope I've done a good

2036
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,840
job in his absence. Thank you all for showing up,

2037
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:45,520
and I hope you all have a very good evening.

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Speaker 2: God bless you.