Speaker 1: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Pony
Express Radio. I am Paul Fahrenheit, standing in for our
fearless leader Red Hawk, who is out this week after
a very long work week. I am joined this evening
by a bunch of very good friends of mine who
have decided to be guests with us this evening. So
first and foremost we have mister Pete Canonez. Welcome back, Pete.
Speaker 2: Glad to be back, Glad to be.
Speaker 1: Back, outstanding, thank you. We are also joined by mister Frost.
How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 2: Doing all right?
Speaker 3: Could be better, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely correct. And finally we are also joined
by a good friend of mine mister Cook. How are
you doing, sir, Doing good? Glad to be on excellent,
Thank you very much. So, gentlemen, it's it's I don't
want to say it's been a slower news week because
it's there's no such thing as a slow news week,
and Trump too, but it has been a bit less,
you know, eventful than the last couple of weeks. However,
there have been some you know, key issues this week,
and the first one that I wanted to speak to
and I wanted to bring up is the evergreen issue
of immigration. Immigration has you know, we all know this.
It's been the biggest issue of the administration. It's been
the biggest issue of this club, of this organization, of
our movement in general. Is just the fact that you
don't have a country if you don't have borders, and
if you have a whole bunch of foreign nationals of
all sorts of varieties, particularly those who get emptied from
prisons and are in gangs get sent here. This has
been the biggest issue. And this week, this week there
was a fight over a particular individual that I guess
it sort of people came to people's attention when some
reporter asked Trump while bukel A who's president of Velsavagro,
was visiting the White House. And so this started this
huge fight over this guy whose name I don't even recall.
I know it's something Hispanic and getting him readmitted to
the United States despite the fact that he was a
illegal alien, a foreigner, a foreign alien. He was in
a gang, he was in MS thirteen if I remember correctly,
and he was convicted of several crimes within the United States,
not just not even just like you know, his personal crimes.
So I want to hear what you gentlemen have to
say about this, this whole issue. I know we're going
to probably watch the interview with President Bukelly, but before
we get that started, to you gentlemen have any initial
thoughts about this.
Speaker 2: I don't care what the court say, you doesn't belong here.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be of the simple position, weren't they
trying to throw him out in twenty nineteen and then
he tried seeking asylum. No, you were here seven years
and you didn't do anything and they caught you.
Speaker 2: You go back.
Speaker 4: To add to that, the reason he was trying to
claim asylum was because he was afraid of this gang
called the Eighteenth Street Gang I believe is the name
of it. That gang was destroyed by President Bakula back
in like twenty twenty one. So the reason that he
quote unquote feared for his life no longer exists. His
home is perfectly safe and habitable for him.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely no, this this this dude was utterly bad news.
He was you know I I I just just from
the little bits I've glanced about him, he's almost the
blotonic ideal of the kind of guy we were trying
to get rid of. And I know that the a
great many Democrats try to make a fight over and
a whole bunch of senators were like flying to El
Salvador to try to get him back or something like that.
But I want us to what I would.
Speaker 5: Like, Kelly should have bu Kelly should have you know,
when the senators showed up there, you have him a
tour of Seacott and left it locked him inside. I
think that where they.
Speaker 2: Belong he'd be.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be doing Trump a favor. But I
I don't know if Trump could could withstand that on
the international stage. If if you have a third world
country jailing us senators, I don't know, if you know,
it doesn't matter what there is, But yeah, I would
that would something great, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: It would be aiding and a betting, uh, a prison
break that is true.
Speaker 1: That is true, aiding in a betting, you know. And
and this is the thing, I don't know if it
I don't. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not familiar with
the law. But I believe that there's some kind of
law that prevents UH, that prevents senators or congressmen or
something from going overseas and and and doing this sort
of thing to foreign governments. Do you, Danny, do any
of you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the one they tried to hit Salcy with.
I can't remember what the hell, what the hell it
was mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's the Logan Act. That sounds familiar.
Speaker 4: I don't know if the Logan Act would necessarily apply
in this sort of a scenario, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just know that there's like these
these these activists private.
Speaker 5: It disallows private diplomacy with foreign governments. Basically, a US
citizen cannot engage in communications with foreign governments without authorization
from our government. So I guess the loophole would be,
since they are a part of the government, are they
actually violating the Logan Act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose that's right. Still, I believe it's in principle.
The fact that you have senators just going to foreign
countries to advocate on behalf of foreign nationals. It's it
really you know, I know it's kind of trite to
talk about the state that the Congress has reached, but
it really does get hit home to us every single day.
But I would like if we can. I would like,
if we can, for us to watch this video of
this reporter getting absolutely obliterated. I know not all of
you have watched it. We're going to have all four
minutes of it. We're going to probably pause and make
comments within it, just so it's not four minutes of
underruptive footage. But to be honest with you, this, when
I sat down and watched this, this four minutes flew
by in the flash. It was, it was, it was amazing.
So yeah, I really, I really think we should we
should watch.
Speaker 2: This damn it. Doug administration statement deported the man who
was mistakenly deported to El Salvador.
Speaker 6: Well, let me ask, ma'am, would you as to answer that.
Speaker 7: Question, Sir President, First and foremost, he was illegally in
our country. He had been illegally in our country. And
in twenty nineteen, two courts, an immigration court and an
appellate immigration court ruled that he was a member of
MS thirteen and he was illegally in our country right now.
It was a paperwork. It was additional paperwork had needed
to be die. That's up to El Salvador if they
want to return him, that's not up to us. The
Supreme Court rule President that if as El Salvador wants
to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs. If
they wanted to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning
provide a plane.
Speaker 6: And if you are doing a great job, than we
And you just also respond to that question because you
know it's asked by CNN, and they always ask it
with a slant because they're totally slanting because they don't
know what's happening. That's why nobody's watching them. But would
you answer that question also.
Speaker 2: Yes, gladly.
Speaker 8: So as Pam mentioned, there's the illegal alien from El Salvador.
So with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.
So it's very arrogant, even for American media to suggest
that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle
their own citizens as a starting point, as two immigration
courts found that he was member of MS thirteen. When
President Trump declared MS thirteen to be a foreign terrorist organization,
that meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law,
which I'm sure you know you're very familiar with, the
iona that he was no longer eligible for any form
of immigration relief in the United States, so he had
a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under
our law he's not even allowed to be present in
the United States and had to be returned because of
the foreign terrorist design nation. This issue was then by
a district court judge completely inverted, and a district court
judge tried to tell the administration that they had to
kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.
That issue was raised with the Supreme Court, and the
Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and
its main components were reversed nine zero, unanimously stating clearly
that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be
compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of l
Salvador from Alsat, who again is a member of MS thirteen,
which is I'm sure you understand rapes little girls, murders women,
murder's children, is engaged in the most barbaric activities in
the world. And I can promise you if he was
your neighbor, you wouldn't move right away.
Speaker 1: The closet real quick, posit real quick. So I just
I just want a moment of appreciation for Steven Miller
and for everything he does. Thank you very much, mister Miller.
Mister Miller esquire.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I guess he's a lawyer. But the fact that the
Supreme Court overturned that District Court order nine zero, even
Amy Coney Barrett joined it, even though whoever the the
the black woman that they have on it, I don't
remember her name, even she joined in that in that decision?
Is it? This is so cut and dry that even
activist judges on the Supreme Court couldn't be seen basically
going against this ruling. So I think, gentlemen, I think
there's a very serious problem with the district courts in
this country.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean how constitutional are they? That's a
question I have. I haven't dug deep into that. Yeah,
I would like to say Steven Miller has done a
great job with immigration. He he's been about immigration his
whole life, even when he was in high school. Don't
go to his Twitter feed and search to Ward Israel.
But but yeah, these can't these courts just be demolished.
I assume they were. They're just a product of the
New Deal regime.
Speaker 2: So they were created by the Congress.
Speaker 4: They can be abolished by the Congress.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. I Mean one thing I was when I
was taken a pre I was taking some pre law
classes in college, and one of the things that kind
of struck me when we were learning Supreme Court President
initially was just how John Marshall, basically from the bench
just decided that the Supreme Court was now a third
branch of government, co equal with the other two. And
you know, in the longest Supreme Court ruling ever, basically
added a whole clause to the Constitution in Marbury versus Madison,
which is the precedent upon which all other Supreme Court
precedent is based. So just like if you want to
talk about the courts basically having way more power than
they should, that goes all the way back to I
think the first Supreme Court decision that was ever made period.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, we can keep playing it in.
Speaker 6: The Supreme Court sive, was it nine to nothing?
Speaker 8: Yes, it's a nine hero favor in our favor against
the district Court ruling saying that no district court has
the power to compel the foreign policy function of the States.
As PAM said, the ruling solely stated that if this
individual at El Salvador. Sole discretion was set back to
our country that we could deport him a second time. Well,
no version of this legally ends up with him ever
living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador,
that is, the president of El Salvador. Your questions about
per the court can only be directed to him.
Speaker 7: I asked President President on this, do you plan to
return him?
Speaker 9: Well and sposo guys suggested that US smuggle and terrorists
today United States?
Speaker 6: How can I return him today?
Speaker 9: LUs just like I smuggle him into the.
Speaker 10: United States or whether the course.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 9: It's like, let mean the questions for busters, how can.
Speaker 6: I smuggle the terrorists today, United States?
Speaker 9: I don't have the power to return him to the
United States. Yeah, but I'm not releasing I mean, we're
not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country. You
just turned the murder capital of the world into the
safest country of the West. He want us to go
back into the releasing criminals so they can go back
to being the murdered capital of the world.
Speaker 6: And that's not going well. They'd love to have a
criminal you know, Rea schedule. I mean I mean there's
as they would love it. Yeah, they sick. These are
shick people. Marcould give something to say.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean Stephen Island. I don't understand what the
confusion is. This individual is a citizen of Alsavagory, United
the Gap and was returned to his country. That's where
you deport people back to their country of origin. Except
for Venezuela that wasn't refusing to take people back at
places like that.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, mister President.
Speaker 11: No, the foreign policy of the United States is conducted
by the President of the United States, not by a court.
Speaker 1: And no court in the.
Speaker 11: United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy
of the United States.
Speaker 1: It's that simpse. So pause that real quickly.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: There was another Supreme Court case that was decided in
the in the nineteen thirties. I believe it was called
Curtis Right the United States. It was about the Curtis
Right Airplane company selling airplane machine guns to I think
it was Paraguay during the Choco War, which is a
much forgotten conflict. But the the I think that's the
end anyway. But the decision in that Supreme Court case
Curtis Right the United States was Basically, the reason that
this was brought up was that Curtis Right sold these
machine guns to Paraguay in violation of an embargo that
was placed on Paraguay, I think by the executive branch.
And so the decision of that Supreme Court case through
because it hit on a very sophisticated point of law. Basically,
the decision of the United States is what's called the
sole organ doctrine, right, the sole organ doctrine. What this
basically means is that the foreign policy of the United
States must be conducted through the executive branch. You know,
things like treaties, things like official binding resolutions, you know,
all this other stuff that goes through Congress. However, immediate
foreign policy and immediate foreign relations of any kind must
be conducted through the president. And so what these courts
are functionally doing is they're in violation of that doctrine
in the sense that they are imposing upon the executive branch,
upon the presidency in particular, a you know, constraints as
to how he is supposed to act in foreign policy.
So this this I think that's you know, this is
the reason I wanted to play this whole video is
simply because I want to demonstrate, you know, I think
we all know this, but I just you know, I
want it to be made absolutely clear that the United
States is currently functioning so far in violation of its
own law and statute and non enforcement of its own
law and statute that it's it's it's just it's disgusting.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and that's one of the reasons why,
you know, a president who can go in there and
start be the executive that the even just the law allows,
is going to look like a dictator, because I mean,
we have listen to what that reporter asked. That reporter
asked President Bukelly if he would release the terrorist into
his own country as somebody who was in Al Salvador
a month ago and considers it to be safer than
any blue city or big city in this country. What's
he supposed to say to those people? What's he supposed
to say to a CNN reporter. I mean, these people
want these people want to punish the average person. They
want the person on the street to be scared and
they get to go to their high rise or they
get to go to their gated community. These people are
the enemy. We are surrounded by the enemy. The enemy
controls the narrative. In many cases, we need an executive
who governs in a way that they understand that. And yeah,
I'm hoping one comes along one day or somebody wakes up.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with that. I mean, if if even
Noel Salvador is a small place and it's a much
smaller area to exercise influence over, if you can take
a place that's that bad and you know, almost overnight,
make it literally the leading country in the Western Hemisphere
for safety.
Speaker 5: You can fix Chicago, you can fix You can fix Chicago,
you can fix La, you can fix San Francisco, you
can fix New York, you can fix Boston. You can
fix all of these cities. You can fix Miami. You
can fix all of them. Because it can be done
with the exception of maybe New York. I mean, which
one of them has El Salvador is x point six
million people? Which one of them has six point six
million people in New York? Maybe Orange, Canon, maybe La.
It could be It could be done. Eric Prince could
do it in a weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I completely agree. And it's it's literally
just a lack of will. Ever since the nineteen seventies,
people have just been unable to conceive of cities as
anything other than where we just let people be criminals
for whatever reason, because we just let them be criminals. There,
that's the criminal storage place. No, I completely agree, I
completely agree. Do either of you gentlemen, have anything, mister
Frost or mister Cook?
Speaker 3: All right, just fundamentally, it's one of those things. I
feel like there needs to be a better way of
tightening up states documentation like how how was it? How
was an illegal able to get married here? And have
that beyond documentation like that, yea more certificate. In addition
to that, I don't want to say tax filing, but
the IRS has really been dropping the ball on that
because Ice could have been handling that for how many
decades at this point of oh wait, your filing taxes illegal?
Off you go, and one of those things like it's
the documentation of we don't know where they are is
certainly a lie because they've been getting tax returns.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's I think the most insulting thing about
all of this is that, I mean, these people have
been issued Social Security numbers, These people have, as you say,
gotten marriage certificates, have gotten tax returns, have have done
all these other things, and they've just been treated almost
the exact same, sometimes a little bit better than American
citizens who are required to do all of the same things.
And the American citizens are liable for the consequences of
not complying with these legal documents. But because these people
are not legal, these people are illegal. They could simply vanish,
you know, or they can improperly do things. And that's
the least. That is, of course, the least of the
problems that they bring here. But it's the insult to
the injury is the fact that you know this this
this guy had a meriage certificate. He wasn't even he
wasn't even a legal resident alien.
Speaker 4: It's I don't know, not only that, I'd like to
just comment on something that Miller said in the video
This This Gang MS thirteen For the general viewers and
those of you who may not know, look up some of
the crimes that they've that those gang bangers have committed
in the States.
Speaker 2: It's wives or girlfriends.
Speaker 4: It's ghastly, Like anybody who was a member of this gang.
It's not like you're you know, dropping off a car
or whatever, like you're doing some really really mess up stuff,
and I don't want you. I don't want you within
a thousand miles of the southern border of this country,
let alone living in it, getting married in at Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6: It's spelled deportation.
Speaker 1: It's so true. It's so true. No, mister Cook, I
grew up in I grew up in Northern Virginia, as
most everyone in the audience knows, and MS thirteen had
probably one of the largest presences in the United States
in northern Virginia, particularly in Louden and Fairfax Counties, and
in Arlington and Alexandria and all that. And I would
hear they weren't in the particular area I was in,
at least not heavy, but I would hear all kinds
of things.
Speaker 2: Growing up.
Speaker 1: There were like kids who would be getting gunned down
at bus stops and some of the richest counties of
the United States. You know, girls would just disappear and
then would be found in pieces, or you know, people
would be like like, it's a mafia movies. Some people
would were found, you know, hung up in a on
a hook in an abandoned building somewhere in some industrial area.
It's it's it's you know, and that's the least of
you know, I remember was and the fear you know
that they that they had, particularly amongst you know, I'm
not here to they're there. I'm not gonna. I don't
know if I should tell this story, but there was
there was an incident where I was working with some
Salvadorians and I made a joke and they they almost
said like like, look, don't do that or you'll get killed.
They will kill you, you know, if you if they find
out that you're you know, making jokes about them. So
I'm frankly very glad that this whole group of people
is gone, that they've been eliminated and exterminated by UK.
And I hope Trump finishes the job of of of
flushing out the remnants.
Speaker 4: Yes, the the treatment they should they get is the
fire and the sword. That's that's my take, precise the
processed stuff they're crying about.
Speaker 2: The hell with that?
Speaker 1: No, no, And speaking of fire and swords, they cost money.
So thank the Good Lord that I think ICE is
getting a huge budget increase. Yeah, right here.
Speaker 5: You have to use that right, you have to use it,
and you have to have the will to use it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Pete, I have to say about this when
you're done.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think.
Speaker 5: We we know that if this doesn't happen, there, I mean,
we're we're in for Even if it does happen, we
may be in for civil war. But we can talk
about we can actually talk about that later.
Speaker 1: No, we absolutely can, because we've got something we're going
to talk about with that. But no, absolutely, I think
one of the issues too, and correct me if I'm wrong,
but one of the one of the the things I've
been hearing a lot of our guys kind of complain
about is like, oh, where are the mass deportations? Why
aren't they happening? Why aren't they happening? And I understand
in some respect why they're saying that. I, of course,
you know, don't respect the fact that they're doubting the
plan that said this is a revolutionary administration in the
sense that they are ripping out an entire infrastructure, an
entire bureaucracy that is purpose built to ensure something like
this does not happen, and they're completely rebuilding it from
the ground up, and they're doing a pretty good friggin'
job of it. Considering it's only been what three months,
four months? You know this is not we're not year
three of the Trump administration. We're doing this. We're on
like month three or month four, and they've already I
don't mean to keep singing Trump's praises, but I'm going
to keep singing Trump's praises. Like a lot of the
issues and the difficulties they've run into is simply man
power shortages. They don't have enough ICE agents to do
all of the deportations they want to do. So seeing
something like this, I think is is very heartening. But
mister Cook, you had something.
Speaker 4: Yes, so this this budget increase, So for the for
your elucidation on the House side, and I think on
the Senate side too. ICE in border security falls under
the jurisdiction of the Homeland Security Committee, and a couple
of my friends who work on that committee had been
saying that they were really trying to push for this
ever since Trump was sworn in, because ICE has had
a lot of budget issues in the past. It had
a lot of manpower issues, especially under Biden. Morale was
very low. You had agents wanting to get transferred to
the northern border, where at least they could like perform
some basic resemblance of their enforcement duties, and a lot
of the to give the Republicans.
Speaker 2: In Congress create it.
Speaker 4: The guys that are on the Homeland Security Committee really
really pushed hard for this increase and spend a lot
of time behind the scenes getting assurances from a lot
of the rank and file members that they.
Speaker 2: Would support this.
Speaker 4: So I do think it's important to give credit where
credit is due here and also kind of reassure people
that although Congress does kind of suck for the most part,
there are good people in it that are trying to
help the president realize one of his most important goals.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would know better than me on that.
I'm very grateful to those Congressmen on the Homeland Security Committee.
Then if they were able to get this passed. This
you know, look, wars are won by logistics, and logistics
is money, you know, So if you if you don't
have the money to deport the people that need to
be deported, then I mean, you're not going to deport them. Frankly,
the will is here. This is the thing. The will
to deport in the administration is here. They just need
everything else.
Speaker 3: Let's just hope Eric Prince get some money to help
the deportations out of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be something. All right, gentlemen, I think
we're all good on this.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 1: So before mister Pete we discussed the coming Civil War.
Let's take a break from the news real quick and
talk about the last Civil War, particularly the meetup that
we had in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, this the weekend before last.
I was here, mister Frost was here, mister Cook was here,
and gentlemen, we wanted to have you on to just discuss,
discuss the event, to tell everyone in the audience you
know what you thought about it.
Speaker 3: I would say this someone closer to the planning aspect,
with the Delaware Crossing Society taking point on that this
was a smashing success. It for a while looked like
we weren't going to eclipse our Valley Forge event that
we had thrown together in November, and then at the
last minute just blew up with people signing up. I mean,
we had someone show up from the Florida Dogs chapter,
like Florida out of the blue. That's impressive. I would
say the weather couldn't get any better than that. Like
missing in the beginning, dry the rest of the time,
wasn't too muddy on the reenactment of Pickett's charge and
just crossing at that section of the field. We had
probably the best tour guide we ever could for the money.
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: The tour guide was very, very well versed in the
history and the lore of the battle, and it was
a great or to a modern Cicero if you will.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's awesome, gentlemen. So what was the what
was the shape of the tour, how did it how
did it start out? What were the what was the
kind of the assembly of the gentlemen present there?
Speaker 3: The composition? Who was there? I'd say we had it
was more Northerner, We'll give them that we had. We
had a contingent show up for from the Ivy League Society.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How many chapters were there?
Speaker 3: We had six official chapters, two proto tap chapters showed up.
Speaker 1: Six chapters of the OGC showed up to this event. Yes,
And what was what was the total attendance? It was
forty seven when all of a sudden done so, So
forty seven guys from six chapters and of course two
uh nascent chapters that haven't incorporated yet. Showed up to
this event. Wow, and were they well behaved? Were they
were they you know, was there any problems or or
was it there just a general feeling of of of
of of brotherhood throughout the event.
Speaker 3: I would say, I'll use this example there the first
march that you would led through Gettysburg. Water was kind
of the last logistic everyone thought about and nobody really
had it. Everybody brought water, everybody was cognizant about their trash, snacks,
everything water. Nothing was left it.
Speaker 1: It was perfect.
Speaker 3: Everyone controlled themselves, there was no craziness. Got a little
slow at certain points, but someone had to pull up
the rear. Yeah, outstanding, mister Cook.
Speaker 1: I know that you're a very studied historian of the
War between the States, and I wanted I wanted your
I wanted your opinion as to how well the the
what is it the historical aspect and the and the
and the recreation of the battle went during the tour.
Speaker 4: Oh, you you do me great honor a study historian
putting that on my on my resume. But I think that, uh,
the it was very very well done. There was, you know,
much deserved respect paid to the men of the North
and the South. That fought at Gettysburg. The way that
the tour was conducted was done I think very very well.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I really liked the way that we finished off with
a pickets charge that was That was definitely my favorite part.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'm sure many other people who were there probably have
the same same feelings about it, And yeah, I I
would rate it a smashing success overall. And for those
among us who probably didn't know some of the specifics
about the battle, I think it's very safe to say
they came away with a better knowledge, better understanding, and
a very very deep appreciation of what happened on those
fields in July in eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 3: If i'm ad, one thing that was interesting to some
of the members from the DCS chapter that really hit home,
especially with the image that is shown that was from
a little round top. A bunch of us had done paintball.
It was kind of an unofficial thing. It was just
you know, guys getting together, going up doing paintball, and
we got our rear ends kicked. The enemy pushed us back.
We were trying to break through, but just couldn't. We
have shoes on, it's not hot, we have water, We're
well equipped and we just can't break through. Those guys
charged up that rocky hill barefoot in ninety degree heat,
full sun, getting.
Speaker 1: Shot at.
Speaker 2: With a heavy ass musket.
Speaker 3: I don't think many of us could do it.
Speaker 1: It was. It was truly a different type of man
that that participated.
Speaker 2: In that.
Speaker 1: Would either of you, gentlemen, go on this sort of
event again? Would you recommend other people, whether they're members
of the OGC or interested in joining or just you know, adjacent,
But if the event be opened to this wasn't open
to the public. But if the event, you know, would
something like this was open to the public or some
would you recommend people come to this? Would you come
to something like this again?
Speaker 3: As as I recommended on the not City of the Union,
City of the Union address. Find your local chapters sign up.
It was the ticket. You just showed up for the
tour itself. It was free. There was no money involved.
You just had to be a member.
Speaker 2: Stuff like this.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the lowest bar. You just have to
get in there and help these chapters grow network. There
are multiple benefits to it, but these type of tours
make it worth it. So find your local chapter sign
up or find the group of guys who are trying
to set up and hey, I had no little to
no involvement in the political sphere at all online, and
then somehow in this chapter Secretary of the DCS in
matter of months, like you can just do.
Speaker 1: Things absolutely, mister cookie, have anything else?
Speaker 4: I think for us pretty much summed up how I
felt very well. I will add a corollary, though, I
highly encourage local OGC chapter to find some historical sites
closer to town and have your own sort of you know,
guided tours, walk throughs, whatever. If you've got a Revolutionary
war battlefield or a Civil war battlefield near you, doing
something like this is one. It's a great way to
build brotherhood and brotherly love too, if you organize like
you know, trash pickups. I did notice some trash on
the battlefield that I tried to pick up when I could,
but I only had, you know, two hands in a
couple pockets. Cleaning up these kinds of historical sites is
definitely something that's well worth the club's time in my opinion,
and it also has the potential to build relationships among
people in these chapters and also with the national parks,
the local residents and the general public at large. So
I think that these kinds of events are an excellent,
excellent vector for our energies. And I really am looking
forward to the next one outstanding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, honestly, I just kind of on
your point because you brought up something I was thinking about.
I was in the Virginia Chat today of the you know,
Vetas Dominion, first first ever chapter of the OGC. I
have to always say that they were talking about possibly adopted.
I don't know if other states have this, but in Virginia,
you can adopt a road. There's a sign that they'll
put up and it'll have your organizations or your name
on it if you do trash pickups on that road,
and it's it's a nice community building thing. And they
were talking about doing that, and so it doesn't have
to necessarily just be a historic side, although you know,
we very much care about historic preservation within the OGC,
but even something like picking up trash on a local road,
making it look nicer, making it look like people care
about that. This is the type of stuff that the
OGC is here for, is you know, those ten thousand
little things that make a civilization well inhabited and well
lived in so that you know, that's just something you know,
you don't have to just limit it to historical battlefields.
You can step off the battlefield too and step back
into the present and and and take that same inspiration,
that same uh, that same energy and bring it into
your day to day lives. And that's how you make
real change. So yeah, that's just something I wanted to
I wanted to to sort of add to that, Pete.
I know you weren't there, but just from from someone
who wasn't there, how, how did how did this whole
event sound? How did how does this all sound like?
Speaker 7: It?
Speaker 1: Does it sound like something that the O G c
uh those you see we were proud to have its
name attached to.
Speaker 5: Definitely, definitely and you know, all over all over the
South where I am, you know, I'm I'm not far
from pretty much everywhere I drive in my area there's
a monument too to the war, and you know, there's
this is something we should all of the uh, all
of the chapters, especially the ones you know south of
the Mason Dixson should be it should be doing. You know,
it's it's a cheap get together and it's a good
time for camaraderie outstanding.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's in Lee County, Alabama. I've
seen this marker when I was when I was in college.
Down there, there is a marker where the fifteenth Alabama,
who were the Southerners who charged up the flank of
Little Roundtop twentieth Maine. If you've seen the movie Gettysburg,
you know what I'm talking about. There's a marker in
Lee County, Alabama, I believe where they where they mustered
up in eighteen sixty one when the war began. The
South is full of those of those little things if
you just look.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too much on a on
a talk about this, but it was like the male
populations of entire southern towns and sometimes even entire southern
counties that marched off to fight in eighteen sixty one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I know, this isn't this isn't war between
the states. But I mean, I live like thirty five
minutes from Horseshoe Bend. Anyone who knows they're there Andrew
Jacks or should know, should and.
Speaker 1: That that that actually reminds me, you know, for those
of you who may be a bit further west, or
you may be in an area where there aren't like
civil war battlefields or anything like that. I guarantee you
there's something near you. There's something out west. You have
all kinds of Indian forts, you know, I mean all
the ones I think of now are are army basis.
So I don't know if you should, if you should
have an event there, but but there are there are
a bunch of Indian forts out there. There's uh, you know,
there's there's geological formations, there's there's you know, state parks,
national parks. It doesn't have to just be a battlefield.
It could be something that's a that's that's a creation
of God's hands that you have in your state, that's unique.
There anything anything that's near you. I guarantee you there's something.
Unless you're in Kansas, you know, if you're if you're
in if you're I know, the Witchitaho g C. I'm
just you know, you could do something at Dodge City.
I think I think that's uh, I think that's that Actually, No, Kansas,
Kansas has some stuff. You know. Dodge City is a
good example. You can have like a Cowboy WIA or
event there. I know we've got a Wichita guys here.
I'm not I'm not picking on you Kansas, but yeah, no,
there's always there has to be something near you, something
near you, and all you have to do is just
go and find it. And you could you two, your chapter,
your group of guys can have an event that is
as special as what this Gettysburg event was. All right,
does anyone have any any final thoughts on this before
we move on?
Speaker 4: Next time, we'll reenact pickats charge and we'll win by god.
Speaker 1: If like if if if Picket and Pedigrew and and
all the others couldn't do it, and I don't know,
I don't think we can. All right, Before we move
on to the next topic, I think we're gonna hit
these super chats real quick. So first one from TK
for five dollars Wichita OGC repers. I was just picking
on Kansas. Wichita OGC represent eat it solid snack, salute, salute. Well,
thank you very much, mister TK, and I hope that
the Home Range Society there in Kansas is doing well.
Cj L for two dollars, Thank you very much, he says.
All solutions, all our solutions, excuse me, are fed posts well,
I mean not quite. You know, a lot of our
solutions are are boring sounding and are limited to a
court of law, but you know, outside of that, I
agree a great, a great many of our solutions are
fed posts air maic discourse For five dollars, he says.
The deportations will continue until morale approves by guys. I hope, so,
thank you very much, sir. Don Browning for twenty dollars
sends a woman with a ponytail. Well, thank you very much.
Don Browning always here high powered for twenty dollars, says
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There are potentially hundreds of thousands that could hit the
market because of this. That's actually that's that's actually a
pretty great FYI in my judgment, any of you in
the market for a house, if that FAHA stuff ends
on September thirty first, you might be able to pick
something up for the cheap. I hope that doesn't cause
a follow on market bubble, but oh well, Hunger for
five US dollars, he says. Stephen Miller is my favorite
Bagel Town resident, and bukel A is my favorite Palestine,
you know, on that hunger. I saw something on the
time line today where some leftist was talking about Claudia
Steinbaumer whomever, like getting the Mexican military to go to
El Salvator for a special military operation. And then someone
quote tweeted and said, I don't know if a Jew
making a jew making war on a Palestinian is a
good look. So I thought that was very funny.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No matter where you go, that particular conflict just
seems to spring up everywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, if I remember correctly, El Salvador doesn't even border Mexico.
There's like Guatemala between the two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1: Know a great deal about a Guatemala because I did
a research project on JORGEO Biico Castagneda, who is the
the dictator there in the in World War Two. He
was He was an interesting fella. They called him the
Napoleon of America, which was extremely flattering. Three nine three
for five US dollars. Thank you very much, sir, He says.
Stephen Miller knows Barabas was the wrong choice and is
making up for it. Happy Easter, everyone, Yeah, indeed, Happy Easter.
You know, today's Mandy Thursday, so tomorrow will be good Friday.
I hope everyone had a very good Holy Week, and
I hope everyone will have a very good Easter this weekend.
Machiavelli sucks. Being white is great for four dollars and
ninety nine cents. He says, they are jokes. Bring it.
I think this was in relation to the to the video. Yeah, no, absolutely,
I think I think he's talking about the media. No,
they absolutely are. They utterly suck. And if if I'm wrong,
correct me later. Melon for five dollars, he says.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Melon was also at the at the Gettysburg event. He
says there were boomers following us around to hear our
tour guide speak and just join in the energy of
the thing. Oh, that's that's something if you know, if
if yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well I was gonna say, I remember hearing some people
rumble of oh, don't interrupt them their professional tour, so
that that was funny to hear.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 3: A bunch of dudes getting together.
Speaker 2: We have a couple of flags. That's all we need.
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, like if it looks the part, I guess.
Speaker 3: And Mellan was the first member of the DCS the
Delaware Crossing Society, so he.
Speaker 1: Will always have a special place in a heart. Yeah,
Melan's done a lot of great work. Back when we
were doing the relief work in North Carolina, I met
him at the Gettysburg event. I was very happy to
meet him. Seasider for ten dollars sends a salute. Man, Seasider,
you've been slacking. You've been slacking. We're very grateful for
your for your consistent support. But you've been slacking.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You're you're losing your place now. As a matter of fact,
people are now sending in super chats to let us
know that you have lost your place. So I don't know, Man,
Hunger for fifty US dollars, I think that deserves some gold.
This is gold, mister bone.
Speaker 2: All my life, I've been in love with its color.
Speaker 1: I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock. So,
for those of you who don't know, that clip is
from a movie called Kelly's Heroes, which is my favorite
World War two movie. It's a great movie. It's a
clean Eastwood movie. It's like it was kind of like
some it was like the nineteen seventies version of the Expendables.
Where you just have all the top actors of the
day just come together for a unserious action film. It's it,
but it's a great movie. I love it dearly. But
Hunger for fifty US dollars, he says on behalf of
the Delaware Crossing Society and the planning committee, I want
to personally thank every one who attended the Gettysburg tour.
You can never undersell these things. The camaraderie was fantastic,
the dinner was white pilling, and the experience was very visceral.
I highly encourage everyone not to miss out on the
next one. Well, thank you, Hunger. We didn't even yeah,
we didn't even talk about the dinner that we had afterwards.
That I think that was like that. That was the
icing on the cake. The whole environment of the of
the tavern we were in it was. It was wonderful,
all right. Yeah, thank you very much, Hunger. And then
finally Paladin YYZ for twenty dollars. He says that White
House meeting was scripted like a bad reader's digest riddle.
How many attorneys does it take to buy a plane ticket?
Oh my goodness, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Think SNL could write a funnier skit if they tried.
Speaker 1: No, No, that was that was the funniest thing about it.
It was is an SNL skit. It's like, I think,
what you know, I'm I'm a historian by education, and
I think what and all that history is really is
is the amassing of facts in order to create narratives.
And I think the narrative that will be created, or
at least one of the narratives that will be created
around Trump, is the fact that you know, he turned
his revolution was that he was able to turn politics
into entertainment, which made things like SNL and stuff obsolete
because you don't need SNL when the actual politics is
the show. And that's actually not new. American politics have
been a carnival for a very long time. It just
it just changes the type of entertainment. And yeah, no,
that that that was an SNL skit where you know,
it's like, you know, Trump's like, hey, Age, answer that now,
Stephen Miller, answer that now, President bucell A, who's sitting
next to me. How about you answer that now, Little
Marco yapping dog, how about you answer that? You know, uh,
it's it's it's you couldn't you couldn't write better comedy,
all right. And then finally before we get move on
to our next topic, mister Thomas Wayne Riley for five dollars.
He says, this is a fantastic idea. Thankfully New Mexico
has battlefield as well and plenty of old frontier forts.
If you're in New Mexico, email the OGC immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Mexico had, in all honesty, one of I think
the most horrifying parts of the Civil War with General
Sibley's ill fated expedition into New Mexico. Yeah, that that
you read about what happened with the the Texans who
had to march back through the New Mexico desert like
the harshest part of it after the Confederates were defeated.
It it's it's it's horrifying, all right. That finishes up
our super chats for now. Thank you all for your
patronage as per usual, and we will now move on
into our next topic.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So recently, as I think, as of the fourteenth four Chan,
which many credit as the originating platform of of of
this this whole culture we all inhabit, this sort of
online political sphere, four Chan was taken down by hackers,
and you are looking at what I think, whether or
not it's actually the last post on four chan, I
think is less relevant. This is in popular memory as
to what will be the last the last post on
four chan, and it's and it's just making fun of
the stupid Minecraft movie. Yeah, I think, what is it?
I know it was a bunch of hackers that took
it down, and there was a bunch of metadata that
was released, and the website was, you know, in utter shambles,
and very few people still use it, but it had
its place, and it very much spawned a lot of
the you know, even our our our linguistic signifiers, you know,
you know, little turns of phrase and memes and things
like that. It has inspired our everyday speech. And so
I guess, I guess we wanted to talk about four
chan and and sort of the role it had in
spawning this online scene and kind of in kind of
what its vanishment it's being taken down sort of signifies.
Speaker 5: It's the data that came out showing that the overwhelming
majority of the posts that were on there came from
Israeli IPS is interesting considering. I mean, I assume good
amount of those are from or from VPNs. But also, yeah,
I think we're pretty we know what Unit eighty two
hundred and what the j i DF was was up to,
especially in the in the early in the early tens,
in the early twenty tens. But yeah, I mean this
is I've never I've never posted on there, but go
on the boards and read as a stone cold lurker.
And I mean everybody talks about everybody talks about Pole.
But there were places you could find recipes, there were
places you could find exercises.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, I mean, yeah, rest in peace.
Speaker 5: I guess I want to see more more meta information
come out so we can know exactly what was going
on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed the golden era of Pole. I was
mostly on LITT actually because I fancied myself an intellectual
when I was in college. But LITT, you know, really
did contribute to you know, someone like me who had
never read in my life actually going and finding great
books to read, and it set me on a path
of enriching my inner life.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a weird take here. I mean, I'm
elder gen Z, so I kind of missed out on
the golden age of pole Dash four Chan, before everything
kind of went chaotic in like twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.
That's when it started really changing, at least from what
I had seen. I think our spear as a whole
kind of outgrew it to a degree like this. I
don't want to say plug ourselves. The LGC is one
of the fruit it bore before dying or meeting in person.
We're doing things beyond just talking online, which is frankly
an even better outcome than just if it had kept
going and kept sustaining itself as an entity.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's the correct take
from this is that, you know, the four chan is
kind of the very you know, for all the things
you could describe it, it was certainly crass, crude, immature,
all those words could be used to describe it, for
good or for ill. And I think the take that
we've outgrown it is the right one to take. Mister Cook,
do you have anything.
Speaker 2: On four Chan?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Not really. I'm kind of like Frosted.
Speaker 4: I was an elder gen Z, so I was never
on like four chan or read it. I was too
busy doing other things in college. I didn't really even
get politically active until almost near graduation. So I I
saw this news today and I kind of just like, oh, well,
that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess that really speaks to the place
that four chan had fallen to, is it's like, no one,
I don't what is it. I did not go on it.
I have not been on it for years, and it
just because there's nothing of value there anymore.
Speaker 2: I also assume that.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of like weird fed you know, honey
pots and honey traps and just you know, glow eaved
up and baked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of porn, really unappetizing stuff. But you know,
we wanted to mention this, I suppose, not just because
four chan falling is a big deal. I guess culturally,
even though four chan is moral, It's like, I guess
it's kind of like the collapse of the Roman Empire.
When Odoaker took it over, it was already it was
already rather gone, but you know, it finally did fall.
But something I think it signifies, and it shows a
wider symbolism of is just I've noticed a seed change
recently in the online sphere, in our online political sphere,
it seems you know, a lot of post I'm not
going to name names, but like that, a lot of
posters who used to be great have been kind of
immolating themselves on the timeline, making themselves look like fools,
you know, just you know, not even necessarily selling out,
although you could say there's an element of that, more
so just kind of becoming their own memes and the
quality of the timeline, to say nothing of Elon's innovations,
of the fact that only thirty percent of India is
on the Internet, all these other things. I really think
that there's a change a major we talk about vibe ships.
I think there's a vibe shift happening in our sort
of online political sphere as well. And this is something
that signifies it. Do you, gentlemen, see what I see?
Speaker 7: To you?
Speaker 1: Degree disagree?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I notice that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a changing of the guard. Really, to be honest,
some people have lost their nish or it's been so
long since the thing that gave them their rise to
prominence is kind of run out.
Speaker 5: And what you know what Zach Frisby here in the
comments said is you know much of Twitter is now
four chan basically, you know, people are there are some
people who are getting banned. But I mean it's not
like it used to be.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I suppose that is true.
Speaker 1: Around twenty sixteen timeframe. That's when, you know, like the
really the golden era of posters is when that started.
And yeah, I know, all the all the people. That
was when all the all the people of all the
various forums, you know, whether it was the sallow form
or others, just decided to step out of their little
niche heidi holes and come into the light on this
great public agoram that is that is that was Twitter.
And now it seems like people are starting to go
back into the other way. They're starting to you know,
they realize that the you know, the the the public
square is getting full of grifters and and and and
really just slop and all these other things. And they
realized that the only thing of substance and value will
now be found back in similar niche hidy holes, just
of a different sort, whether it's group chats or other things.
Speaker 4: I will also say, like, if you aggressively, you know,
curate your timeline on Twitter against like slop and grifters.
Grifters aren't that hard to spot in my opinion, for
the most part, Like, once you've kind of seen it
happen a couple of times, I've that's what I've been
doing in my timeline's not not not too bad?
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah I understand that. But the thing is the
fact that you have to you know, you have the
muted words and the blocked accounts and stuff like that, that
you have to put in so much effort to curtail
your timeline. At that point, people are just going to
go like they're just not even gonna bother putting in
that effort. Most people are just going to delete the
app and go somewhere else where. It's uh, if there
is somewhere else, I don't think Gab's going to replace it.
Speaker 4: Do you think all the four chan people will move
to like like Reddit or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know there was a time when Reddit
used to be like four Chan, you know, when it
was almost as bad, and then the left took it over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'll what was I gonna say about? Yeah,
I think Twitter is I don't know, Yeah, scratch that thought.
Speaker 4: I apologize Kora or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, But you know, with the with the with
the sort of seed change that's happened and I really
what I think it is. I think it's because posting existed.
It was created in twenty fifteen to get Trump into
the White House, and it did. And then when Trump
was removed from the White House, it was given a
new lease on life to keep the fire alive until
Trump came back and then get him in the White
House a second time. And now that we have gotten
him in the White House a second time, I think
people are kind of you know, it's it's like, you know,
when a great crusade comes to an end, you've achieved
your goal, and it's like, okay, well now what and
lots of people are kind of left pondering. It's like, well,
you know, what's my whole raison detri for posting in
the first place. Most of what I complained about has
been either either is being addressed or you know, is
not relevant to anymore. And you know, when you have
that kind of lose of momentum, loss of momentum rather
especially when you you know, you get the big man
who fixes that's unfortunately, that's just how right wingers think
is they think in terms of get get it, get
the big man in who fixes things. And you know
that can work, and with Trump it seems to be.
But the problem is when you lose that raisondetra, you know,
it's like it's like you want to go back to grilling,
you want to go back to normal life, to normal hobbies,
to not being politically involved in it. And unfortunately I don't.
I think that's the wrong response. I think that's a
horrible response. I think even doubly so because this week
a leftist wrote something about all of us that I
think was the is very telling as to where they
are right now mentally off of their defeat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, the question, one of the
questions about this whole thing with four chun is who
did it and what was the purpose of it? You know,
was it? Was it a left kind of movement who's
fighting back against you know, Trump being elected. And remember
they they may not be saying this, but I mean
the last president of the United States said it. You know,
anyone who would even think to not only support Trump
but not call Trump a fascist is their enemy. They
consider you to be the enemy. It's a very Zionist
kind of idea where you're you can't just be oh,
you know, well, I'm kind of neutral on Israel. No,
you have to actually be you know, you have to
be pro pro Zionist, or you're considered their enemy. Well,
these leftists whatever you want to call them, communists, socialists,
insane progressives. You know, they are not going away, you know.
And we have some that are, you know, actually openly
and publicly saying okay, well, these people who support Trump
or you know, support his policies, don't even have to
support Trump. When do we start killing them?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And and here's here's what I want to say to
people too. This is a message to everyone who saw that,
and everyone who had the their immediate reaction was, oh,
this is a theater kid. Oh this is if it
came to it, you'd never know. These the theater kids
were the ones killing priests in Spain. These are the
people who do this. Okay, you don't the homosexuals. They're
the ones who do it. Okay, They're the ones that
get radicalized. They're the ones that have nothing to lose
because as they have nothing in the there's no legacy
for them. If you don't take this seriously, you're I mean,
as far as I'm concerned, you're not part of you're
not part of anything I'm building, because these are the
exact people who start this kind of thing. And these
are the exact people who pull the trigger on old
ladies and pull the trigger on priests and nuns and
dig up nuns and disin turn nuns and mock their bodies.
And as you know I mentioned earlier, and you know,
Paul and I did an episode a couple of years ago,
there is violence coming in this country. I don't think
it's going to be cover the whole nation, but there's
going to be pockets of it and large pockets of it.
And if you don't believe that, if you're looking around it,
you don't believe that. Yeah, I don't. I don't really
want to have any I don't know that I can
even you know, call you, you know, comrade or friend.
Speaker 3: I think it just comes down to the fundamental thing
of never underestimate your enemy, as simple as that they
might they might be a pushover theater kid if they
actually fight someone that's going to fight back, But until
that happens, they are the most dangerous threat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, for me, the something that I've been
really frustrated with the last few years is a lot
of people I know will use though, oh he's a
weak little theater kid, or oh they're like, you know,
not gonna fight us because of their soy lattes are
going to write out then they'll like surrender or whatever
the hell. The weird boomer cope is, Like, there's plenty
of other examples of you know, leftists basically saying we
want to kill you and we're looking for the perfect
opportunity to do it. And there's beeny examples where they've
actually like engaged in this behavior. And it's kind of
one of those things where it's, look, they're telling you
what they want, they're telling you who they are. You're
sitting here like sticking your head in the sand saying.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's like that's how you end up
as a as part of the casualty figure of shit
hitting the fan.
Speaker 1: Like do you do you morons think that just because
these you know that their anti Second Amendment stuff, thinks
that they want to take guns away from them, No,
they want to take your guns away. They don't. They
want they want to use guns to kill you, all right,
Like these these weak theater kids can pull triggers and
can be taught to shoot just as well as anything else. Right,
you know, and in my five years of service in
the National Guard, I have seen that you can teach
just about anyone to shoot very quickly.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It can be done in an afternoon. If you have
the AMMO for it, it can be done in an afternoon.
It doesn't take a lot of AMMO.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You can teach anyone to shoot, You can teach anyone
to drive a tank, You can teach anyone to pilot
a drone. Like what what is missing?
Speaker 2: Will? Right?
Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, I look at this
article and I look at this this individual, right, you know,
it looks like a complete winner based on based on
his profile. But you look at them and and and
you know, like, if you haven't been listening to the
stuff Pete has been doing on the Spanish Civil War,
you need to be. If you haven't been reading Mystery
Groves articles on the Russian Civil War and what led
up to it and the social milieu that was in
Russia at the time and before the time, you need
to do that, right. I know a lot of people
meme on Mystery Grove. I get it. But they you know,
read his freakin' sub stack. Read the articles he writes,
especially about the Russian Civil War and the Russian Revolution. Right,
it is it is extremely similar to today. The apathy, the
the you know, mistrust, the media, manipulation, the ssence of
certain groups of people. Right, These are the people who
you know they were the commissars. You know there were
there were There were black American commissars in the Bolshevik Army.
There were Chinese commissars in the Bolshevik Army, there were
women commissars in the Bolshevik Army. Read about what Nestor
Macknow and the Black Army did in the Ukraine. If
you want to turn your stomach inside out, right, these
these are the people like mister Decker here, right, These
are the people who currently inhabit a country with you
and have a moral imperative within themselves to kill you
and to to rape your children, to do all of
these other horrible things to you. They believe that is
their moral imperative. And if you believe it cannot happen here,
If you believe that war can never touch this kind
of it's touched it before. If you believe that civil
unrest that these people can't go out and and you know,
God forbid organize, God forbid take over existing power structures
that are friendly to them, because you know, we have
no power structures in the United States. We have no
bureaucracies in the United States that are loyal to these people.
Oh no, none at all, none of them who we
don't have people who carry guns who would happily turn them,
you know, whether it's out of apathy or out of
genuine belief on us or other people like that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Oh no, the military is going to deffect will it?
Will it? Look at this? Look at this on the screen.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Look, you have to understand just because we've gotten Trump
in the White House, and just because we've got a
friendly administration. You know, the in Russia there was there
was I forget the name of the guy who elected
the reactionary prime minister who had this knee jerk reaction.
I think it was ten years before the Russian Revolution.
Through a bunch of special courts, he was able to
very competently stop this revolution immediately. I don't think you
all realize how the future that we were spared from
by Trump having that last minute head turned in Butler,
I don't. I don't think that's registered to people yet.
You know, things just kind of go on as they
have been. You know, you go to work every day,
you get your paycheck every week, there's food in the
grocery stores, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And you
think that that's never going to end, and you think
that nothing's going to be required of you, that you
aren't going to have people come and threaten you, and
that you know, you don't have to be building things
to prepare for that, you know, building networks to prepare
for that, and you know, indexing with people to prepare
for that. You know, I'm not saying that I don't.
I'm not. I'm not saying it's it's it's going to be,
you know, the apocalypse. But what I am saying is that,
you know, if you believe, if you believe that you know,
things are just going to be hunky dory, and that
the leftists you know, are you know, the the these
these people who have castrated themselves chemically and have no future,
or who are homosexuals of any variety, or who are
you know, die hard communists and believe you know hook
line and sinker in in everything that the Communists have
been putting into this country. You know, that's that's you know,
you could you could blame that on some other groups too,
since you know, they move their world headquarters to New
York City in the eighteen nineties. And and you know,
if you don't believe that all that isn't going to
come to a culmination, isn't going to come to a fulfillment,
then you're not. In reality, things are coming. The OGC
and other organizations exist to prepare, but things are, and
you must prepare.
Speaker 3: If I may be, but we'll probably see, is just
more Chazz's If everyone still can't remember May of twenty twenty,
as we're coming up on five years of that, it's
they might have been poorly organized, they might not have
been armed the best, but they still shot at anybody
that threatened them.
Speaker 5: They how many people died be as a jazz It
was a color people over two weeks. There was a
color revolution in this country, and people don't want to
accept that.
Speaker 4: I will respectfully not not necessarily disagree, But like the
left does have organized groups like Antifa and Chazz and
all that. But you know, especially in like I know
in the sen like Georgia there's like armed black militia
groups like that. I think it's the not fucking around
coalition is what they call themselves. Like you know, and
a shit hits the fan scenario, like if like the
gloves really came off, those people would definitely go crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, I've seen a most professional
documentary grade thirty to forty minute long videos on YouTube
where they've interviewed the Socialist Rifle Association of Philadelphia, Socialist
Rifle Association of Maryland chapters. They're you know, you may
laugh that they're shooting in the desert and they can't
hit anything to save their lives at twenty feet, but.
Speaker 2: They're training.
Speaker 3: That should be the scary thing.
Speaker 5: Also, people will you know, people on our side will
be like, well, you know, they won't come face to face,
they won't do anything to you face. There's no what's
your defense from an ambush? What's your defense from you
go into this door and someone walking up behind you
and putting a bullet in you? What's your defense except
to always always be watching your six And that's a
hard way to fucking live. But I mean, if this
kind of it. If they keep whipping up this kind
of fervor going forward, then you you may have to
live with eyes in the back of your head if
you're somebody who you know is public and somebody who's
you know, his name is out there, and also you know,
you you just have to accept the fact that you're
a partisan in this fight, and some partisans don't make it.
Speaker 2: One thing that also we'll go ahead.
Speaker 4: One thing that also worries me is that law enforcement,
at especially at the federal level, doesn't really seem to
take these groups as seriously.
Speaker 2: As they do.
Speaker 4: You know, a bunch of idiots who just want to
like go shoot guns in the wood and talk about.
Speaker 2: Like based stuff.
Speaker 4: And what I'm starting to worry about is, you know,
what's out there that we like don't know about just
because no one's really looking.
Speaker 2: For it, if you know what I mean, Like I
don't know.
Speaker 4: I I see these kinds of people, these kinds of
groups as a as a very serious threat and their
capacity for the kind of damage they could do in
a shit hit the fan scenario should not be underestimated.
Speaker 1: And in case you think that's a scenario like that
isn't likely. Trump's world economy reorganization with the tariffs, I think,
you know, maybe maybe maybe maybe he's not gonna maybe
he's not going to fully commit to that. But that's
an indication as to how fragile our current supply chain
based existence is. You know, even if they're interrupted, even
if they're if they're slightly stalled, you know, what is
it like the civilization's three meals away from from collapse?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You know, even if you have a temporary disruption of
food going to places, you start you start seeing violence.
And I think we'd be lucky if it was just
a bunch of chazz Is, because you know, like, but
but why was Jazz not Why was Chaz allowed to
continue existing and was given all sorts of social media coverage?
Why was the National Guard? You know it was? Why
did Trump not send the National Guard to eliminate it?
Because I think Trump was was was Trump still president
at that time? I was in basic training when Chazz
he was Yeah, so I missed all that because I
was at basic training. Funnily enough, but uh, but but
but you know who who? Why was the National Guard
not sent in to basically get rid of this?
Speaker 7: This?
Speaker 1: Uh theoretically, this this this this revolution against state power,
this setting up of an alternative state power, because it
wasn't an alternative state power at all, Like Pete said,
it was a color revolution chas was was purposely set
up or was allowed to continue existing. You know, whether
it was purposely set up or not, it was allowed
to continue existing, and it was given all kinds of
media coverage all over the country. It's a demoralization technique.
It's meant to demoralize. It's meant to show, oh, there's
you know, there's nothing that we can do, there's chaos
and anarchy in the cities, et cetera, et cetera. I
don't think they have that kind of power anymore because,
by the grace of God, Trump is in the White House.
But the fight is far from over. Everyone. You know,
since election day, everyone's been like, oh, well, why what
happened to the left? Where's the left? You know, what's
going on with the left? Et cetera, et cetera. I've
said things like the left is in shambles, and in
a lot of cases it is. But you know, like
any army that shattered, that has its it's it's morale
broken and loses a major battle, they can regroup, they
can reorganize them, they can hit you again. And people think.
Speaker 5: People think because usa People think because us ai D,
you know, has been we don't know what usa IDA
is doing. It was turned over to the Secretary Estate.
We have no idea. But that doesn't matter. George Soros
doesn't need usai D. Bill Gates doesn't need us A
i D. Billionaires you've never heard of, don't need usa
i D. All they need to do is find a
way and I know of certain ways that you can
move money around that's just untraceable and not just not
just cryptocurrency. So people are sleeping on the fact that
there are groups out there that are planning something. And
you know, it's hard for us to believe because I
mean most of most of us are sleeping soundly at night,
not worrying about anything. Sure, we might have a gun
next to the bed, but you know that's that's for Yeah,
that's for the intruder.
Speaker 2: What about the mob?
Speaker 5: And then you know, somebody in the comments is going
to be like, well, that's why I have that's why
I have thirty round magazines. Okay, Well, you know, and
you shoot the first one, and they and and the
rest of them scatter until they don't. They didn't do
that in Spain, so be prepared.
Speaker 1: So on that. It's very important to study the Spanish
Civil War and the Russian Civil Wars as examples of
you know, because they're so close together. And I know
they're in different countries, different cultures, different sizes, different people,
but the circumstance which led to them were so similar
and the outcomes were so different. It's important to study both,
you know, like that was at Kent State. That was
the by the way, Kent State was the National Guard's
finest moment. Everyone just so you know, what, what are
the chances that they ended up? I mean except for
that one poor r OTC guy that got killed. He
was he was just you know, he was just walking.
But for the rest, I mean, man, anyway.
Speaker 5: Did I can I can J post every live stream
and that's probably what's going to get this demon of.
Speaker 1: Test or whatever. But but but specifically speaking to Spain,
right to what you talked about was Spain. What differentiated
Spain from Russia is that the military was number one.
Like the the communists I think in the proceeding in
the preceding years were more or less sidelined from the
Spanish military and they were not allowed to penetrate at
least the high levels of high command and number two
under Emilia Moola. There was a very decisive coup and
grabbing of ground that was done by a variety of
bolt and a lot of generals who just kind of
acted on their own initiative in a unified front. This
did not occur in Russia. In Russia, the response by
the military was very disjointed. There were all kinds of infiltrators,
but it was so well done for the for the
for the Spanish that they were able to airlift the
entirety of Franco's elite Moroccan army from the Spanish Africa
provinces into into mainland Spain, which proved to be the
the x factor for on the ground confrontation. And the
reason that I believe that the Spanish, the Spanish nationalists,
the side of of of truth and the side of
of Sanit were by the grace of God allowed to
be victorious in the Spanish Civil War was because of
the competency and the professionalism and the unity of force
within the military, which leads us to our final topic.
This evening which is recently. One of my favorite things
that Trump has done since starting was appointing Pete Hegseth
as Secretary of Defense. I think it was one of
his most I know, he was a Fox and Friends guy,
I get it. But if you look at his combat
record and you look at what he's done, you know,
he was leading a platoon in Iraq.
Speaker 2: Or was it.
Speaker 1: Afghant, It was one of the two, but he was.
He was an infantry platoon leader. He still serves or
I think up until being appointed Secretary of Defense he
still served in the National Guard. You know, he has
been known for his extremely radical views within the Department
of Defense community, and I think that's why Trump picked him,
you know, just simply because he was a well known
military man with radical views, and he's done a lot
of great things. For example, he raised recently raised combat
standards and we talked about this in another Pony Express dream,
but he raised combat standards for combat units of physical
fitness standards to the male level. Universally, females now must
comply with the male PT test, which is a soft
ban on women in combat because they just simply it's
standards they can't meet. So what you're seeing is is
you know, on the lower levels, in the front line units,
you're seeing a massive increase in quality. I heard he
recently cuts something like ninety thousand officers out of the
US military, like he's ending their contracts and things like that.
This is excellent, this is great. But what our story
that we're specifically talking about is I believe that there
was some leaks that came from the Pentagon as to
what they were doing, from from very high up general
staff officials that were discovered, and I believe some generals
have been fired because of that.
Speaker 2: Well, the.
Speaker 5: We knew there was leaks, we knew that they had
to be they had to be found, we knew that
they were embedded deep and I mean, at least we
know of some of them. But I mean the when
you take into consideration the deep state and that these
people who work at the Pentagon, and you know, they
no matter who's president they worked, they're the same at
the State Department. Say, you know, the entrenched deep state,
we have to assume that there's it's it's still leaking
like a SIEV there. So you know, there's a lot
more work to do if it can be fixed at all. Now,
and I'm you know, I'm of the opinion that it
can't be fixed, and we're you, I know where we're headed.
And I think that's what what the OGC is all about,
is getting ready for that, and that's why we concentrate
on local chapters.
Speaker 1: Sure, no, yeah, I recently listened to a to a
biography of Colonel John Boyd, who is a very well
known military theorist and military strategist. He was a fighter
pilot who flew in Korea and in Vietnam, and later
on he created a I think he created one of
I think the more revolutionary works of military theory and
his patterns of conflict brief. You know, everyone you might
know him for Oodul Loups, but you know, colonel Boyd,
most of his career was spent in the Pentagon as
soon as he as soon as he finished up his
days as a fighter pilot, trainer and stuff like that.
But most of his days were spent in the Pentagon,
and it was mostly spent fighting the post war bureaucracy,
particularly in the Air Force, but in other branches as well.
That has a massed itself in this building, right, So
this building, you know how Aaron says, the purpose of
a system is what it does. The purpose of the
Pentagon is to buy weapons, because that's all it does.
It buys weapons. It doesn't matter what the weapons are,
it doesn't matter how well they work, it doesn't matter
how strategic strategically viable they are. It just buys weapons,
and that is its only raison detra And the problem
with it is you have the high command from the
Marine Corps, the Army, the Navy, Coast Guard, the Air Force,
all in that one building, and they're all closer to
each other. And you know there's inner service rivalry and stuff,
but they're all closer to each other than everyone else.
And they're all closer to these defense contractors, and and
you know they have congressmen uh backing them, backing one branch,
backing another branch, et cetera, et cetera. If you listen
to this book about John Boyd, there's a movie I
think called The Pentagon Wars. That's a that's indicative of
this about the I'm pretty sure it's about the I
haven't seen it, but I know it's about this. I
think it's about the creation of the Bradley. But when
you look into the creation of of these of these
multi in some cases multi trillion dollar defense projects that
like all lead to nothing. And you see the graft
and the corruption and the lies and and and the
you know, this is what this building exists for. It's
what it does. It has spawned up the richest it's
like four of the richest counties in the United States,
just for people who exist to serve the economy that
emanates from this building. And uh I I I highly
recommend that book It's called Boyd by Robert Quorum, and
the movie The Pentagon Wars. I haven't seen it, but
if I know it's about that book. Whoever, if you ever,
if you go watch it and you know me, you
can send me a message about it.
Speaker 2: Was it by chance?
Speaker 5: Was did a mister field House tell you to tell
you about Boyd?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I suppose, I suppose you could say you could say
something like that. But but anyway, like this is this
is also like this is the world I grew up in.
Is the economy that this building emanates. And military reform,
the United States military. I know I've been talking for
a while, but you know, I'm probably gonna have anything
you gentlemen have to say but the United States military,
it's still the most powerful military on earth, don't get
me wrong, but it is in a very bad place,
a very bad place, and it starts at the top.
So one of my favorite things that hag Seth has
been saying that he's doing, and even like with these
lead I think even he's he's starting to do, is
he's firing these generals. He's getting rid of them, right
because you know, you know this, Peete. The reason that
the Spanish Army was able to react so strongly to
what happened in nineteen thirty six was because of the
unity of the high command, or at least enough unity
amongst the high command to react for us absolutely, and
if something like this happens in the United States, I
hope to God that we have at least enough of
a high command because you know, like, like I'm not
saying I don't I don't want to start speculating, but
I would like to have something similar if something similar
was attempted here. And I genuinely believe in hope what
mister heg Seth has been doing. Secretary of heg Seth,
I hope that he is able to do everything that
he wants to do because the military, you know, it's
not that the military is incompetent, it's that it's politicized.
It's that is politicized to serve certain bureaucratic interests, would
serve certain ideological interests. And I don't know if he's
going to get all of it. I hope he gets
all of it. That is the biggest issue that I'm
afraid of.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's I think we've talked about that before.
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 5: The the double edged sort of trying to get our
guys in the military, where yeah, we have people who
are loyal to America, but also you know when you
look at the when we look at the high command
and the generals and the wokeness and the oh I
need to examine my privilege, and you know, when you
understand that a general actually has like a fiefdom all
to himself, you know, the culture has to change. It's
just like it's just like society. I mean, the military
is just a society, and the culture has to change. So, yeah,
if it comes down to what we think it's going
to come down to, and the military's there, you know,
going back to the nationalists in Spain, Yeah, the military
high command and the generals. I mean, there were generals
who sided with the nationalists, who just sided with the
nationalists because they felt that they had to and their
inner loyalties were to the other side. That's how strong,
that's how what a's tie, how tied together they were.
But you know, in a situation like this where we're
at right now, and especially after eighty years of this poison,
just this, you know, this absolute occupation that we've been under,
if it started tomorrow, who the hell knows what would happen.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I I hope to god it doesn't start tomorrow, but
I don't think it will. I think we have I
think we have at least some time. Yeah, there you go,
there you go. You know, these are as you see,
these are these are you know, these are white guys.
There's a black guy there you have, but these are
white guys. These are you know, fighting age men. Look
what they're holding.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in the Air Force. Okay, the Air Force
kind of sucks, but you know that's a multi multi
million dollar killing machine behind them, you know, And just
you think that just because they have these political beliefs,
they all of the sudden, you know, stopped knowing how
to kill people. Don't be foolish, mister, mister Frost that
we've been We've been talking for a while to either
of you have any any judgments on this on the
state of the military and what mister Hegseeth is doing well.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say this, the Democrats really misjudged the
situation because Obama did a very good job of I
don't want to say purging the Officer Court, but he
did a good job of clearing house of our guys
between two thousand and nine and twenty sixteen. And Republicans
some must like, we don't want to play the Left games,
like if they've given us the precedent, we got to
use it.
Speaker 2: We just have to.
Speaker 3: And Trump didn't go after the Officer Court, and he
wondered why orders weren't followed of pulling troops out of
Syria because the people that were there had the vested
interest and were committed to the cause, and we're willing
to do the I'm not going to compare keeping US
troops in Syria to the Spanish airlift.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 3: Completely disregarding the head of state, as you said, the
sole body of it is done through the executive trip
placements are also done through the executive to a degree,
and that was under his purview because we don't have
an we didn't have a sign declaration of war against Seriously,
they had no reason to be there. They're willing to
They've already shown that they're willing to play by their rules.
Throw them all out.
Speaker 1: What was it? How the heck?
Speaker 3: Remember the guy who graduated West Point that the shit the.
Speaker 1: Dude who was in he was apparently a ranger with
the CIB and everything.
Speaker 3: It's insane when you think about it, that the left
got that far. The only issue was is that they
didn't They didn't count that the Republicans would do anything
crazy like run Donald Trump because frankly, if you look
at the rest of the field from twenty sixteen, anybody
else would have lost.
Speaker 1: Allow me to insert something real quick, right, the Republicans
didn't run Donald Trump. Donald Trump ran the Republicans. And
that's something I want ever single one of you two internalize.
There is no organization other than Trump right now. There
This is a this is a mystery Grove point, but
I'm going to happily repeat it. There is no organization
other than Trump right now. Without Trump there's nothing. Trump
goes away, our whole counter offensive goes away, our whole
ability to apply pressure to these people, to take away
their funding, to put them in prison. Right that it
goes away, do you what you think You think you
think Marco Rubio is going to is going to be
loyal to mag Ideas after Trump is gone? You think
you think you know, I maybe you could say something
about Vance. I don't want to. I want to withhold
judgment on Dvance. But you think you know Tulsi Gabbard
is gonna is gonna stay the way she is. You
think that this, this whole coalition that's been forged together
by literally the force of will of one man, you
think that's going to continue. No, No, it's not. The
og see IS is a great organization, but it's still
more or less in infancy. There's only so much we
can do join it right now to help us. But
there's only so much we can do right now. These
people have had decades, decades, almost a century to organize
with explicit legal support, with legal funding. They have whole
packs that exist. Look right here, Yeah, they have whole
packs that Yeah, this guy wasn't just some just some
guy either he was like, you see right there, that
thing at the top, that's a cibu he. I believe
that before he went to West Point he was a ranger.
I read up on his story. I think he was
in seventy fifth Rangeer Regiment, which is an extremely elite unit.
He's not just some guy, you know, He's not just
some some some college kid. This is a dude who
had been in for a while, you know, and and
in elite units. Mind you you think you think that
I have. I know I have anecdotal things of friends
of mine who have been in Green Beret units and
stuff like that, and they know they know people exactly
like this guy. You know why, because extremists tend to
be attracted to extreme things, and we do not have
a monopoly on the extremist camp. And these people can
learn how to be physically active and fit. So but
but you know, to bring this back to my point,
bleeding Camp, I'm going to bring up an American example.
Take Bleeding Kansas. Bleeding Kansas, which was a fight over
over the statehood of Kansas and whether Kansas was going
to be a free state or a slave state. Right
due to something called popular sovereignty, Kansas was mostly populated
by settlers from Missouri, which was a slave state, southern
leaning slave state. But the Northern abolitionists did not want
another slave state to be allowed. So what they started
doing was they organized, They started funding people to move
to Kansas, to set up towns, and then when the
Missourians kind of knew what they were doing, they went
and started attacking them, started burning their towns, et cetera,
et cetera, and it got violent, and the Missourians were,
you know, better trained. Individually, they were better. They were cavalrymen,
they had horses, they knew the terrain. But it didn't
matter because the abolitionists coming from the north, had organization,
had money, had funding, had you know, legal support in case,
you know, they had had friends in Washington, and so
they were able. They won. Kansas was a free state.
And this is this is the same atmosphere we and
we are the Missourians. We are not we are not
the Northerners moving and we are the Missourians or at
least like them. Individual we're pretty good, you know, individually,
we're pretty we're pretty skilled, but we don't have organization
and we don't have even you know, we have the OGC,
and that's something, but you know, compared to what they have,
they have decades, they have all kinds of money that
you can't even dream of. They've got people within the
Armed Services, within the intelligence. Yeah, John Brown right there, Yeah, exactly.
John Brown was birthed, was birthed from bleeding Kansas, right,
And what did that lead to? You see it right
there on the screen. You know that this is the thing.
I know, I've been on my soapbox for a while,
and I probably should bring this home in here because
you know, we're getting close to two hours and we've
got some super chats to read, and I'm gonna let
any of you gentlemen add anything on after this before
we go to super chats. But I'll bring it home here.
Without Trump, without all of Trump's marshals, we have nothing.
The leftists, they have been hurt. This is the first
big defeat they've gotten in a very long time. But
they have reserves of menpower of money, of capability of TEFTT.
They've got it too. And we need to wake up
and realize that you can't just go back to grilling.
You can't just go back to your video games or whatever. Else,
you need to understand that the CounterPunch is coming, the
bigger CounterPunch. Trump in twenty twenty. Yeah, that was unprecedented.
But you ain't seen nothing yet. I think that you know,
I wrote some articles a few years ago, and I'm
not going to tell you what they were about, but
I wrote some articles a few years ago that I
felt then and I'm starting and I went away for
a few years, but I'm starting to see again now
is I don't think we're just going to get out
of it that easy. So pray to God that we
can use this time that has been given us to prepare,
to get ready, and pray that Trump and his officials
can do whatever it is that they can do to
rip out as much and to set up as much
as possible. But be ready because things will be required
of you.
Speaker 4: It would honestly shock and terrify you the complete and
total lack of imagination and courage and understanding of what
time it is that permeates the place that I work
and the people that I work for and work with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's it's, there's there's what is it amongst
the young guys, there's hope, but they don't have control.
Speaker 12: So so mister Fosco ahead, Oh, I was gonna say,
I mean, and again, my entire lifetime has been one
giant I'm gonna say, black pill effectively up until recently.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if anyone remembers the Bundy Ranch
stand off back in twenty fourteen where it almost got
real close to another Lexington and Concord level event that
was just government v people, not just leftist partisans. So
it's we've had we've had close calls, We've gotten lucky.
This this amount of time has been a gift. Let's
not waste any more of it.
Speaker 1: No, wars don't happen because they're rational. Wars happened because
people believe they can and they want them to. All right, Pete,
you got anything or should we go to super chats?
Speaker 2: Let's go to super chests? All right?
Speaker 1: So imagine my lack of shekel. Well, I uh, I
guess I have to because you're giving us money for
fifteen dollars, he says.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Rip four Chan really gonna miss the Schizo posts from
government contractors in Antarctica about twenty five foot tall spider
demons wiping out the entire Special Forces security detail in
football stadium sized usos in the Caribbean, vaporizing incoming Navy aircraft.
I think he uh, yeah, yeah, I four Chan man,
it was a special place. Mellon. For five dollars, he says,
four Chan strikes me as something that was set up
as a weapon or honeypot by evil people, but held
the seeds of their destruction. Many such cases with the
works of our opposition and the opponents of God generally
so true. No, yeah, Fourtune was a major vector of
us I think, Pete, you mentioned this fortune was a
major vector of intelligence operations from a certain group of people.
Speaker 2: One. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was also a great vector of learning truth. But
you know, el th Empler Cringey for five bucks, says
on Easter Sunday, we get the end of month three
of this forty five months remain. You have to keep
this in your mind if things go bad. Yep, this
is true. We've got forty five months left. Elfempler again,
for five bucks, he asks, Pete, have you read or
streamed about Antonio Gromsky's prison notebooks? Very good insight into
the goals of the enemy.
Speaker 2: I have not, but I know the perfect person I
can do that.
Speaker 1: With yeah, I think, mister Pete, I think that's that's
something that you should look into because the tactics have
not much and the strategy has not much changed.
Speaker 5: Well, the right keeps falling for it, and well the
right won't fight, they won't use the same tactics to
fight their enemy.
Speaker 1: You know, and we could we can make all kinds
of discussions about that as to like whether that's a
constitutional difference between the type of people that make up
the left and the type of people that make up
the right. What the right does, and like Trump is
a great example does. What the right does is they
wait for some kind of you know, great man to
come along, and you know, every so often they are rewarded,
and that's when they make their stand, is when they
have the great man right. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work
for them. General Wrangel in Russia was that great man.
Unfortunately he was too little, too late. But in Spain
when General Mola and then I think general who's General mol?
Do you know General Molis in command because it was
both him and the and there was.
Speaker 4: Marshall Sanjuzo, right or however you say his last name?
Speaker 2: Yes, So, yeah, both.
Speaker 1: Mola and San Gejo died and Franco who's third in command?
You know, that's the thing, right, this is the thing.
This is another great thing. As to the Spanish army,
the chain of command was clear, It was very clear.
There was no difficulty in who the succession was. This
was not the case in the Russian army. Kolchak took
over in a coup, but there were like five or
six generals claiming overall command and well, and it was
even when Vrangel was given overall command at that point
it was it was too late. So this is this
is this is a flaw amongst the right is that
is that we wait for great men to come along
to kind of fix everything at once, and it you know,
the the left is just simply more consistent over a
longer period of time. You know, we can do great
feats in a very short period of time, and typically
that's when we win. The reason, I think the reason
the national the reason nationalist one was just because of
the lightning operations in the first few weeks of the war.
You know, they were able to grab so much so
quickly that the the and the socialists just they just
didn't have the the edge to beat the professional trade
military forces. But it still took a while because they
have the bodies. So this is the thing is, it's
like it's like the right winds through speed and through
excellent coordination. But we're a glass cannon. We are a
glass cannon. If you don't get it right the first time,
immediately you know it. It like the Confederacy, you know,
the Confederacy could be described with three words initially very successful.
And that could be the whole of the right described
in three words, initially very successful. And that's something we
all need to keep in mind. If you got a
lot out, oh go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, if I may interject the Spanish,
I'm no real expert on the Spanish Civil War, but
I've read a little bit. The Spanish left was very
similar to the Russian right in the Russian Civil War. That, yes,
were they. I'd say that frankly, they were the ones
initially successful because they were controlling the political scene and
the political violence at least five years before the conflict began.
They but they were very weak. They couldn't agree, they
couldn't come to a who was in charge, same with
the Russians. The White Russians in the Civil War, when
pressure was applied, they crumbled. Granted, with enough guns and
tanks from the Soviets, anything can be propped up for
a few more years. But that fundamentally was a difference
because they were in fighting while trying to fight the
Spanish right you know, Orwell wrote about it that was
the big issue. The Russian White Army also experienced the
same issue. It's it's equal parts the you know, coronation,
but also just fundamentally the tucking away of egos, and
that is I'm gonna say a universal thread that we
on the right sometimes we all dream of being the
great man. But sometimes you just have to put the
ego away and accept that you are at a certain level.
And sometimes you get presented with, oh, hey, your promotion
because two guys ahead of you just died.
Speaker 1: But I think that's very insightful, specifically that one sentence
you said, they're everyone on the right dreams that they
can be the great man. I think that is something
that that very much does work against us, and you
are right, it is, you know, the putting away of
egos is a it's something I think that very much
is that I think does the OGC does very well,
but how many organizations are like us. They're almost none.
And that that made scare you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the right in Spain you had, you had the military,
you had the following gay and you had the the Carlists,
and they basically they were the reason they won.
Speaker 2: First of all God.
Speaker 5: Second of all, they put they put aside their their
differences and they they all were different people. And the
the left was just a split between communists, anarchists, left libertarians,
the you know, the Republicans which were on the left,
and they couldn't they couldn't come together. They they would
like if if if they weren't a battle together and
a left libertarian fell.
Speaker 2: The anarchists would laugh.
Speaker 5: So yeah, So, and that the right in this country
right now is, if I would say, the real the
real right, it is just as fractured as the left
was in Spain.
Speaker 1: And and you know, at the very least, the left
is currently in civil war between it's h it's it's
more moderate faction and it's a more progressive faction. I think,
I don't think that's something that's gone gone away yet,
but the radical faction is absolutely making moves, and the
radical factions maintaining a sort of unity. Particularly I think
with the with the with the story we didn't cover
about the horrible thing that happened in Texas, with those
two high school students. They've they've they have, Yeah, exactly,
They're they're doubling down. They're not They're not giving up
their ludicrous ideology. And I think that is a unifying
factor for them. Wrong as it is, and it's something
that we need to look at and we need to,
you know, join the o GC. If if you're somehow,
if you're one of the three hundred and ninety nine
people still watching this and you're somehow not in the
OGC yet, figure out how to do it right. It
like and it just it's like it. I don't know
of anyone else right now. I'm sure there are people
out there. I know the John Birch Society is doing
very well. But we need to have this glut of organizations,
these redundancies the way that the left does, and we
need to do it in a way that's above board
and that has sticking power. So you got a lot
out out of your super chat, Gridgie. There's always one,
all right. Moving on Solid Snake nineteen sixty four for
ten US dollars, he says, evening, gents, late again, But
I have a good excuse. This week I was celebrating
Holy Thursday, Mass tonight and remembrance of the Last Supper
and the institution of the Eucharist. On Saturday, I'll be
finally confirmed the Lord. Have a great Easter to all.
Salute the OGC Well, thank you Solid Snake nineteen sixty four.
Congratulations on being confirmed. I hope you uh, I hope
it was edifying for you.
Speaker 2: Congratulations brother.
Speaker 1: All right Balerro three nine three for five US dollars,
Rest in eternal peace. Austin Metcalf. Indeed, Aaron McIntyre had
a great stream on the difference between biblical and therapeutic forgiveness.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, that's something I think that needs
to be spread, that needs to very much be talked
about in great details. That forgiveness means nothing if you
just if you just if you just give it to
them after nothing Forgiveness must follow repentance. Celebration and grift
are not repentance. May justice prevail. I completely agree. I
completely agree. I know we didn't. We didn't want to.
We didn't want to cover this story for obvious reasons,
because you know, I don't think the good people who
watch this need to see, need to have need to
be reminded that horrible things like this happened in this country. Yeah, exactly, absolutely,
they don't need to be reminded that horrible things like
this happened in this country. But no, I believe God
will judge this family. I very much believe God will
judge this family for what they've done.
Speaker 2: And already he already has look at him.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I hope he saves the rest of us.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, Well, I believe I believe
that you know, things like this will stop one day
very soon, and then finally last last super or not
last super chat, Kosher don Bacon for ten bucks says salute, gentlemen,
I just learned to Internet tonight. Well to congratulations. We're
very glad that you that you've found your way here.
Thank you very much for your patrons, sir. And then
the last super chat that we have this evening, unless
you unless someone sends in a quick buzzer beater, uh
when we go when we go to final thoughts and
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It really that is really what keeps the club running.
Your super chats are also very great, so thank you
all very much. Gentlemen. Actually, starting with mister pet, you
have any final thoughts anything we've talked about this evening.
Speaker 5: No, just stay of vigilant. This, I mean, relaxing at
this point is a huge mistake. Yeah, I mean gets
together with people of like mind, be ready to come
to each other's aid no matter no matter what it is,
and that's the way collectivize or die.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, mister Frost, do you have any final thoughts on
anything we've talked about?
Speaker 3: This evening just just a wrap up of general ideas
from this stream. Is just we're on the precipice of
either greatness or absolute catastrophe. We cannot rest on our laurels.
We cannot wait. Then, you know, the Civil War was
able to drag on for two bloody more years after
Gettysburg because Mead didn't instantly move to defeat the Confederates
that were in slight to surray before they fled back
to Virginia. We can't afford to let that happen.
Speaker 1: H No, we cannot. And finally, mister Cook, thank you
very much for coming on this evening. Do you have
any final thoughts for anything?
Speaker 2: No, not really.
Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty good discussion tonight, and I
wholeheartedly agree with the points everyone raised before me.
Speaker 1: Outstanding. All right, finally on to shilling Pete. What you got.
Speaker 2: Peek show Pete subsack dot com. That's it.
Speaker 5: Just release an episode. This, just release an episode with Thomas.
We're starting a series. It could go for a year
on continental philosophy. We did this is just just release
the introduction episode. And we didn't even get into facidities
and pericles and the Peloponnesian War. It's just just an
introduction and that was an hour.
Speaker 2: A lot more to.
Speaker 1: Come Outstanding, mister Frost, do you have anything to show?
Speaker 3: The only thing I can show is if you're in
eastern PA.
Speaker 2: Somehow.
Speaker 3: If anyone is still in Delaware West, you know, eastern
part of Maryland, or in New Jersey and you're looking
to join, go to the website. There's our email reach out. Also,
if you're on the western half of the state of PA,
we have the Pittsburgh chapter that just spun up. They've
been added to the website, I believe, and you know,
keep an eye out. If you were in central PA.
It's not there yet, but they were at the event,
so keep an eye out for if that chapter finally
crosses the finish line and you can join up there.
There's no real excuse, there's no dues yet, so it
doesn't cost you anything.
Speaker 1: It's got a not.
Speaker 3: It's got to show a little discipline, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Outstanding. And then finally, mister Cook, do you have anything
to show?
Speaker 2: I've just got two things. My personal substack.
Speaker 4: I will be releasing some pretty in depth articles about
the eighteen sixty four Overland campaign, so doing reading up
on the Battle of the Wilderness to start that endeavor.
And then a friend of mine and I have started
a substack called the Capitol Caller where we'll be trying
to bring OGC guys in the right in general, the
inside scoop of what's going on underneath the underneath the
dome doom from within the dome, you can say, so, yeah,
please give those a follow.
Speaker 2: And that's all I got to say.
Speaker 1: Outstanding. Yeah, And I very much enjoyed the article that
you wrote for the OGC very recently, They Shall not
Grow Old. I thought it was wonderful.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, gentlemen, thank you very much for joining
me this evening. Thank you all who are listening for
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Next week Red Hawk will be back in his normal,
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and I hope you all have a very good evening.
Speaker 2: God bless you.