Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, this is Christina and this is another episode
of a Spooky Tales, a podcast for all things is
Pooky Hunted Places to Crime in Latin America. But today
is not a normal episode because I am in the
middle of packing and then unpacking and wow, I underestimated
how much work this was, and so there is no
episode of Speaky Tales. We're taking a little two week break.
We'll be back in two weeks. But in the meantime,
I did find a couple of our podcast besties to
keep you company while I'm gone because of my unfortunate
mistakes and taking too long to pack and unpack. So
today I have the Paranorma Putas and their episode on
La Letusa and ohg listeners, you know, we've had the
Parama Putas on before and we love them, and you
know what, it's been too long since we last had
an episode with them, but here they are for you
to listen to. I adore them. They are two sisters.
On their podcast, they have some episodes where family members
come and talk to them about their paranormal experiences or
they share their own paranormal experiences, and then they have
a bunch of episodes recapping that show with Zach Beggins
that I am drawing. I am forgetting the name of
Ghost Adventures. They recapit those episodes and it's a lot
of fun. They recapit those episodes and it's a lot
of fun. So we'll leave you in their company and
we'll be back in a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 5: What a good dime?
Speaker 3: Already such a good dime And we're just.
Speaker 5: In the intro music Baby Baby, what about? Everybody is
Marle and we're the p.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know those Halloween animatronics that are
like those are the real good ones. I want to
voice them. Someone get me a job doing you'd be
so good. But anyway, sorry, we're not here to talk
about me voicing spooky pumpkins or anything like that. We're
here to talk about fucking witches and owls and shit.
Speaker 5: I was like, fucking witches.
Speaker 3: I mean not really, but you know, emphasis on witches,
not the fucking, but the witches. Today we'll be talking
about the legend of La Tusa. Actually it should be
more like, oh the baddest which of them? In my opinion, Yeah, man,
she really is the legend of La La Tusa. I
feel like is one that stuck with me way more
than like Larona or what else.
Speaker 5: That's really kind of what when.
Speaker 3: I just it's none of it ever affected me as
much or as deeply as the legend of La La Jus.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I have to agree, And even like the
whole reason we started this show where it was because
of the stories we heard growing up, and a majority
of them were experiences or stories around La La Usa.
So yeah, to Bethany's point, just really had the biggest impact.
And I think one of the scariest things even to
this day, like I see an owl and I freak out.
But yeah, it left the biggest impression. So I'm excited
that we're going to spend some time talking about her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, And I love that you brought up
that owl because you know, I feel like that's a
great place to start when it comes to the history
and the origin of the legend. And I just had
a fall that you know, you see the owl in
it makes you feel a certain way, like it has
those connotations, and I can't help but feel that not
only is it something that you know, we feel because
we grew up listening to the stories, but it's also
in our DNA as indigenous or like native, you know,
indigenous DNA, you know, like we are, you know, from Mexico,
South America, you know, are our ancestors, and you know
the legend does begin there. So big sister, would you
like to give us a little history? Oh heck, yeah,
man so, according to the myth uh. According to the myth,
La la Chisa is often described as a massive owl,
sometimes up to seven feet tall, with glowing eyes and
a face of an old woman, which is fucking horrefic brawl.
I mean, old ladies can't stand up straight, so to
see a seventh in the fucking form of a bird, like,
get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 5: So already very creepy.
Speaker 6: She is said to appear at night, lurking around homes
and in Dark Rule, especially around dark rural area so
like farmlands ranches. Definitely keep that in mind, especially when
we hear about the origins of the story. But many
stories claim that she was once a powerful witch who
was wronged by villagers, leading her to seek revenge by
transforming into a terrifying creature, creating right and building the
stories around La Les.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of want to go a little bit
further into that, like how she became to be, because
you know, people say that she was wronged in some way.
So there are legend sayings she was a Bruja, which
a lot of people and you know, the culture say
Bruha is kind of a bad witch. You know, Coudndea
is like a white witch, right, so they thought she
was like a dark magic kind of witch. And the people,
you know, like mob Rule, you know, came and persecuted her,
and she came back as avengeful owl. Some say that
because she was a Brucha, that she made a deal
with the devil to have special powers and again making
her a threat to the community, and they come after
her and she comes back as an evil ow. My
personal favorite take on how she came to be is
that she was wronged by a man or by losing
her child. So there are versions of the story saying
that there was a man he like cheated on her.
He's a drunk, you know, and he accidentally killed her kid,
you know, in like drunk driving accident or like whatever,
and she comes back and kids his ass. Ye, you know,
she's fucking pissed. She comes back as avengeful owl. Another
version is that she had a son in the community,
accused him of doing something wrong and persecuted him, and
then again she's pissed, comes back as an eventful owl.
So I love those because it's more about women empowerment.
It's more about this woman who is fucking pissed and
comes back and seeks her fucking vengeance. And that that's
why that one's my favorite, instead of it just being
naturally we hate this woman because she she's a bruha.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I like that a lot too.
Speaker 3: It makes it more I guess for me, it's still
creepy and even as we learn more, but I think
it makes it more like, Okay, maybe she's on the
lookout or to your point, like if I ever see her,
shain't after me, like it's not for me necessarily, So yeah,
and as it is someday, I don't know, we get
we'll get definitely get into a little bit more of that.
But realing it back into kind of again the origin.
You know, we always wonder like who started this? You know,
how far back can we take it? And the most
interesting thing about folklore is that it is an oral tradition.
Speaker 5: You will never know, but we can speculate.
Speaker 3: And some of the things that people speculate is that
it predates, you know, it's pre Hispanic culture. It's about
fifteen sixteenth century legend that has mess American influences and
cultures including like the Aztecs and the Mayans and the Machikas.
You know, they associated the owls with death and witchcraft
and omens of doom, as well as Native Americans. You know,
so in like you know what we call now South America, right,
we have Native culture, the Apaches, the Navajo also seeing
the owl as an omen of death or destruction. Natives
also believe that owls were shape shifters and not even
birds at all. Some shaman in the cultures also thought
that owls were messengers and acted as a spiritual consultant
between shaman and you know, the other realm, and they
would consult with these owls about other people's sicknesses and
even punishments.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, And I really like that.
Speaker 6: I like that idea of being connected, like and you
mentioned it earlier, right, like it stuck with us so
much because of our roots and how it's embedded within
our DNA and how we connect to the owl animal itself.
And I think that that's really cool. And then it's like,
well when did this get scary? Because I mean to
be a messenger between the spirit world and you know,
you're having these impactful moments or you know, I don't know,
having spiritual connection and now next.
Speaker 3: Thing, you know, the owl's evil? Like how did we
get to that point? You know, what do you think?
How do you think I'm gonna guess?
Speaker 5: Colonize a.
Speaker 3: Wild concep absolutely So around the sixteenth century, Spanish colonizers
come through colonize Mexico, and of course they bring their
own culture and their own folklores about witches and shape shifters,
you know. So the Spanish, you know, supposedly had tales
of witches or brujas and their bruhas could transform into animals,
not just birds, but any animal. But apparently they did
kind of hone in on the bird like like it's like, oh,
which can be anything, but they prefer birds in particular,
and they do this to carry out dark magic. And
so you have these European stories mixing with these indigenous beliefs,
and you have you know, the creation of what we
now know as La la Chusa.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think that's great, and I mean and
even over time, the story of Lichisa becomes so widespread
and like I mentioned right, keeping in mind the rural rural,
so rauga.
Speaker 3: It's a hard word, okay, ru r the rural.
Speaker 5: I feel like the people who live in rural areas r.
Speaker 3: We're out here in the rural, especially in big lands
with no one around in the big lands. In the
big lands.
Speaker 6: No, the community is really right of northern Mexico and
even South Texas. Like you hear about La Tusa mostly
within those border towns. And it's because the tilt served
us both like supernatural warning and a moral lesson. But
again it comes together with all these cultures blending and
building on right, the symbolic of the owl, the story
of a woman who's been, you know, in some way,
and we're building, and we're building so to have these
cultures collide and in such in that populated area. Now
we're getting to the full folklore of La La Chusa.
So I think that's really cool. Yeah, and it is
interesting to me. Again, with a lot of these folklore stories,
these tales that we cover, they're usually cautionary tales, right,
And that is just interesting to me.
Speaker 3: And I have more to say about that, but we're
gonna keep going. But what you know, the thing I
love about it, and We've said this so many times,
so I'm sorry for old listeners, but you know, for
any new listeners. We love talking to people about these
legends because we still have sightings of her in modern times.
We have stories on our mother's side, our father's side,
our best friends, have stories that have been on our show.
People that we have never met before we did our show,
that we talked to who were in our neighborhood when
we grew up, saw these things, heard these things, and
assumed it was a legusa, you know, So that I
love that that this is a fifteenth sixteenth century like
creature or cryptid, whatever you want to say. And we're
still talking about her in twenty twenty five, and that's
fucking badass.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, She's still very powerful.
Speaker 6: It's the whole But because I think so many people believe,
or so many people share the story, that these legends
live on, especially within our culture, So I think it's
really cool. I mean and even us, like I feel
like we had a recent encounter, not that long ago
that we can talk about a little later, but it was, yeah,
very impactful and immediately I'm like, bro, that was fucking Jusa.
Speaker 5: We got to get out of here.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, still in our fucking thirties, look an
owl still scared the shit out of us and we
got to go. But again, just how impactful and how
powerful and how relatable I think the story is and
why so many people still.
Speaker 5: Carry it so close.
Speaker 3: Yes, and before we get into our personal accounts, I
would like to talk about what she does, Like, what
powers does she have? Wire people actually scared of this bird.
I mean, granted, the imagery of a seven foot tall
owl with an old woman's face on it, it's pretty creepy.
That's pretty fucking creepy. But she's a shape shifter. She
doesn't have to be that. Sometimes she's just an ol,
Sometimes she's just an old woman. Sometimes she's a young woman.
So we know one of her powers is shape shifting.
What else, big Sister, do we know about?
Speaker 5: Let you.
Speaker 6: Well, you might already be able to assume based on
her build.
Speaker 5: She is above bird like.
Speaker 6: She is a freakishly strong the bird slash which such
strength come together and really build for an impact voice.
Speaker 3: She's beef beef like.
Speaker 6: No one's getting away from her because she'll just like
knock you out, pick you up, and go.
Speaker 5: Yeah. She's pretty brute. She is, uh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite tales of her strength is that
she can pick up a full grown fucking person and
or a vehicle, Like if you're driving around your fucking
truck in the row areas and she don't like you,
she goes scoopy a ass, Yeah, bro, you can run.
Speaker 6: You can't drive away, you can't run away, Like, yeah,
there's just no point.
Speaker 3: Like just give it. If she's in, if you're in
her sight, she can fucking pick you up if you're
out and about, you know, And that that is such
a like also a hilarious like imagery is like this
massive owl carrying a fucking truck, Like, what do you do?
Speaker 5: What is that doing over there?
Speaker 3: That's hilarious alone. Yeah, some Harry Potter shit nowigs taking
aretas I love it, no, bro, But I like the
how how she lures you out. So she in the
rural areas, she's gonna lure you if you're in the area.
Goshoul gets your attention.
Speaker 5: We texted to y'all.
Speaker 6: She it said that she mimics a crying baby, which
I think for a number of people would be like alarming.
People would go and investigate hearing a child that could
potentially be in harm and danger. So I think that
that's really wild. And I and and again I just
think not for me, and good thing. I don't really
like children. I'll call the cops, I think now before
because you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's terrifying.
Speaker 3: It's really fucked up because it's praying on your vulnerability
as a kind and empathetic person. So it's like, oh fuck,
I'm gonna go save this baby.
Speaker 5: Bitch your lunch.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 3: Like, So that that's really kind of fucked up, you know.
In my point of view, my personal favorite was always
She'll whistle at you and that's because of Dad. You know.
One of some of the earliest stories he told us
was like about hearing a whistle and and just like
he would say, don't whistle back. That's it. Let'son learned.
Speaker 5: I do not whistle back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's just something that's ingrained, like don't whistle back,
you know. And every time I hear a whistle, it's like,
what is it, who is it? Where is it coming from?
And if you can't find where it's coming from, I'm
going inside.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think that like, if you can't find
the source of that whistle, nope, I'm good and I'm
out of there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it makes me thankful. I never really learned
how to whistle.
Speaker 5: That's right, you did it.
Speaker 3: I think I'm just being protected by my ancestors. They're like, Nope,
you don't need to learn how to do that.
Speaker 5: You're good, You're good.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I do remember one time we were
hanging out outside partying and we heard a whistle and
we were with a group of friends and me and
you looked at each other and.
Speaker 8: We were like.
Speaker 3: And then like we heard it again, and we just
like went inside like real quick, like we didn't run,
but it was.
Speaker 5: Like a shuffle. We was like get in there, and
like I didn't tell anybody no.
Speaker 3: But then we came inside, they were like, why did
y'all come inside?
Speaker 5: Y'all were like on a mission.
Speaker 4: We were like.
Speaker 3: So shitty.
Speaker 9: So I guess that's a cue for you guys if
you're ever hanging out with us and we and bessay,
just go m I A probably lela usa en raul,
get out of there, Get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, we was with people who may not have
known the legend, and we weren't trying to like, you know,
We was just like I know, you know, and I
know that you know that I I know that, we
know we need to get inside. Well, I guess that's fair.
If the crowd were a little different than more of
us would have just probably looked at each other. More
of us would have been like, what, No, it's great,
it's just it's just, uh, it's just that ingrained in us.
Speaker 5: It's true, it's true.
Speaker 3: I love it. And then some of the last things
that we kind of noted about her as like a creature,
what we know about her is that she is said
to eat her victims. That's why she's gonna snatch you up.
You're gonna be lunch. She is said to also pray,
particularly on drunk men, because again, remember one of the
origins of the story is that a drunk man did
her wrong in some way. You know, a lot of
the time they say he accidentally killed her kid. But
then that is just so curious to me because some
say that she prayed on children. So it's like, Okay, well,
is she praying on the children because she wants to
take care of a kid because she lost hers? Because
why else would you take another kid if someone wronged you?
Or are you taking these kids because they're the kids
of the ant like the people who wronged you, you know,
Like I don't know, it's just interesting to me like
that she's gonna go and pray on kids. So I
feel like, if you believe in a more malicious version
of la lech you so that's what she's gonna do.
She's gonna fucking take the kids, and she's gonna eat people,
and she's gonna be awful. But I believe in a
more just Lasa, and my laa Chusa is gonna go
after people that are doing you know, bad things, drunk
men cheating on their wives, fucking people committing really awful,
atrocious things, particularly in the middle of the night, because
that's when Dad would say. He said something like, what
was it, Like I was out doing things I should
have been doing. Yeah, yeah, like he was out late, Yeah,
fucking around, drinking Partardian being not responsible and just yeah,
and then a warning, Yeah, you better get your shit together.
Speaker 5: That's my Letusa, that's my girl.
Speaker 6: Like I had a thought like, what if she's like
the Dexter Morgan of uh fucking cryptids, and like, even
though they're children, maybe she knows they're going to grow
up to be fucking like Hitlers and ship And well.
Speaker 3: Girl, she missed, she missed them, She missed a couple,
she missed a couple. Fuck, I think I think we
need to summon her tonight. Maybe that's not but I
was like, well, hey, we don't know. That's seculation exactly
to the point. It's theory, it's speculation, it's folklore. And
and again like the story is so old, so many
people are gonna imprint theirselves onto it, And this is
me imprinting myself onto it. This is me saying that
my law Letusa is a fucking bad just bitch, but
I was so scared of her. Well you know, well again,
we grew up on a lot of stories. And you know,
if you have seen have you been so mucky and
privileged to have san Me and Lee alive? I'm so
sorry if you have, if you have been so blessed
in your life, then you may have seen us, you know,
do this presentation. We have done many talks on La
Lachusa because she's one of our favorites, and one of
the things we love to do is share some of
the experiences from you know, our family and our dad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like dad does have a lot of experiences with
this burden, even down to like many different things that
we've already called out, even like how she calls people out.
That's something that our dad has experienced and that he
shared with our listeners before. But Tibethany's point, if you're new,
we want to share that with you now. So here's
some of our dad's experiences with La Lachusa.
Speaker 7: According to them, they've been big whistle leg. They whistled
at you and they try to call you over. And
I've heard that plenty of times late at night maybe
stuff I shouldn't be doing. I was out there where
I shouldn't be and I.
Speaker 3: Would hear that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean just hearing how you can be
called right, or how your attention can be grabbed by
la la chusa. And again our dad experience that is
so wild. But he has so many moments with this
cryptid that we got more to share.
Speaker 3: With you guys. Oh yeah, this one's one of my faves.
It's about a witch he saw when he was a
little kid.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Yeah, this is a good one. You're
gonna like it.
Speaker 7: I had some swing sets in the back and I
remember my brother Bona Facio and me playing on the
swing sets. For some reason, I looked up and I
saw bright light. It almost looked like a and it
landed on our house, on our roof of the house.
And this bright light just stood there. It didn't explode,
it didn't do nothing like that. It was just said that.
And when I looked at it and it solely dissolved,
I saw a woman come from that. She was a
big woman, I remember that, and.
Speaker 3: She looked at us and she laughed, she laughed.
Speaker 7: I remember running inside telling my mom that there was
a woman on the roof. My mom just hesitated a
little bit and she came out. By the time we
got back out there.
Speaker 3: She was gone.
Speaker 7: Later on in life, as I kept on talking about it,
my mom finally acknowledged what I saw was something called
a witch or the.
Speaker 3: Tatum fucking hilarious, A big woman, a big woman woman,
And I love it, Like, how do you argue that memory?
Like I think I remember, and I remember this story
when we were young, being told this story, and for
the longest time, I thought it happened at our grandma's house,
but it happened at his grandma's house. And I can't
remember looking at Grandma's roof and just like imagining a
woman sitting at the top and scaring myself because the
story was so impactful and just how he described it,
Like I mean, I don't argue it because the memory
and how he tells the story is consistent, right, like
nothing changes, and I think it's so creepy. On top
of that, he was with his brothers, yeah you know,
and they saw it too, or they say they did,
you know what I mean, And Grandma eventually coming out
and being like, yeah, there's witches in the world.
Speaker 5: It's just a witch. Don't worry about Like, what the
fuck kind of shit is that? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's just like the validation of
like one, there were witnesses two. My mother is playing
it off and then eventually tells me, Okay, there are witches.
So it's just it's hard enough to you know, believe
or ticket face value a few you know. Yeah, no,
I like it.
Speaker 6: But he has more, you guys, if that wasn't enough,
there was a there's a moment. Our dad lived in
Round Rock for a little while and he liked to
hang out in the backyard, and he shared with us
an experience he had while hanging out in the backyard
and maybe having let.
Speaker 5: You sa stop by it, Yeah, just to say it,
what sun, have a beer or something?
Speaker 3: Soup, homie, I got that subvess on it.
Speaker 7: Enjoy Like people say, it's a lot of Tucia is
a big old white bird. I mean this sung bitch
was big. I mean I heard his wings flat. I'm
looking at this room right now. It's a twelve footer,
maybe about a foot one's friend.
Speaker 5: He was big.
Speaker 7: He was so big, and for some reason I felt
he was staring right at me because I looked that
up and I could swear I saw his eyes. I
looked up and when he hit that tree where it leave.
Speaker 5: It, that damn tree swayed.
Speaker 7: He hit that tree with a force and it just
gotta move back and forth. I said, shit, I'm witting inside.
Speaker 3: Dude. Yeah, dude, fuck that like eight foot wingspan. Say what,
bro the tree moved. Yeah, that's a big motherfucker. That
is a big fucker. Yeah, man. And you know, it's
so funny because I remember when this happened. I remember
when he told us about it, like the next weekend
or whatever, like it was very close to when it happened,
and he told us and he pointed out like where
the yeah, where it's slanted. Yeah, it's so good. And
to be fair, I never really hung out in that backyard.
And now that I think about it, like we know,
didn't really play that much. Right there in the backyard
was creepy, so already had a vibe.
Speaker 6: You know, I didn't want to be back there anyway.
There was a particular area back there that was not good,
like around the shed, yes, yeah, and so.
Speaker 3: It was like the restroom that walk away and then
the shed that corner back there was just fucking creepy
dark in a way that is not due to the
lighter dark energy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is dark.
Speaker 3: We've never talked about that, Yeah, I don't think so,
you know, I still dream about that place sometimes. Crazy.
Speaker 6: It was a wild round rocks haunted as fuck. Yeah,
and it was by like a little creek, and we're
gonna have to have like a full bow conversation about it.
But yes, after hearing that, definitely didn't go into that backyard.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so crazy. It's like I feel like we
had the same epiphany at the same time. That fucking
creek the water round Rock is named round Rock because
of that round rock in the water. Yeah, fucking conductors
all around. It's surrounded by sacred waters, you know, like
those waters was sacred. Anyways, we got hits it, yeah,
super anyways. But so yeah, yeah, so good, so good.
And that's not even the last from good old pedro
Oh Papa paranormal uh uh. He had another experience. And
I like this one a lot.
Speaker 6: It's fucking terrifying, But he experienced this as a young
kid with his grandpa, and I just think that that's
kind of wild.
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorites as well, and one that
really haunted me as a kid.
Speaker 7: But I know it was a long road, it was dark,
no lights, and all of a sudden, there's a big
thump on the cab of his pickup truck. It was
a thump and then like a scratch. When that happened,
it's light. When I looked at my grandfather, he showed
a little uh, like, what the hell's going on? But
he really didn't scream out or yell. I don't know
like that. He kept this composure, I guess you would say.
And I kept on looking at him, and we traveled
and he didn't stop to check the lights. I already
that he kept on moving for some reason. He might
like he might have known what the hell might have happened.
Then he kept on moving out of that area. And
then slowly but surely, as we came out of the area,
the lights came back on. The sound on the cab
had stopped. But I saw him, and I saw his face.
I remember his face. He just stayed s dirty on
the wheel, both hands on the wheel, and he floored
it on the hell he saw the road and from
I really don't know it was dark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking horrific. I couldn't imagine. I don't know what
I would do, honestly, Like, I think it's really cool
that he says that, you know, his grandpa kept his composure,
you know that he just kept looking forward and just
kept going, you know, because I mean, that's just that's
gotta be hard. You know, it's scary, like, what the
fuck's going on? Something's on my truck? What are you
talking about?
Speaker 7: Dude?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 6: Man, and like that, don't look, don't acknowledge, like just
stare straight and get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 5: And then I'm like, man, that's yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 6: Like he knew, he knew, and he had to keep
cool to keep my dad cool because I would imagine
being a young kid like I've lost my shit.
Speaker 5: I have lost my shit.
Speaker 3: Definitely. Oh goodness.
Speaker 5: Dad's kind of a tough guy. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
oh yeah.
Speaker 8: But uh.
Speaker 3: One of my favorites that's not within our family, but
you know, with some of our friends, is your close
personal friend with Thesia. And I love her story so
much because I mean it's fucking hilarious and relatable as shit,
but also the way she describes what happens. So I
don't want to ruin anything, So let's let's get to
it and I'll talk about it.
Speaker 10: It's it's crazy and it's funny at the same time
because my crazy and shitty and this is this is
like she straight up a big sister man, because like
she did me so dirty. But we used to have
a deck in the back of our house, or there's
a deck in the back of the house and everybody
would go out there in the summer, like hang out,
barbecues and stuff. And one night, me and my sister
were outside and we're playing monopoly and there was a tree.
There's a tree that hangs over the side of the deck.
It's a pretty sturdy tree, you know, a kind of
high and we're playing monopoly. We swear to God, a
latusa landed in the tree, this whole freaking tree, like
everything just something lands on it so big that it
comes down and you just hear it hit the side
of the deck and it was like whoosh, and you
just hear every limb everything hit and then it went
back up. My sister got up, ran into the and
like ram past the tree and ran into the kitchen
and I'm like behind her, right, because I always run
slower than everybody else, I'm behind her. She slams the
screen door at me and will not let me in
high and I'm like, let me inside, let me inside,
you know, like there's there about you in the tree,
and she goes, no, go get the monopoly game first,
and I'll let you inside.
Speaker 3: And I start crying.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm like, let me inside.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I love Letsia.
Speaker 6: She's so colorful, so bright, so funny, and the way
she tells that story about things point is so relatable,
Like we have an older sister.
Speaker 5: I'm an older sister.
Speaker 6: I know I've done fucked up shit to have ady
sistern uh. So I think it's great to hear the trauma.
But also to the point you made before. It aligns
with some previous experiences with.
Speaker 3: With dads with that tree coming down, like the way
she talks about how the weight or like how heavy
big that bird was that that tree just you know,
and then and and dad had told us very similar stuff.
So I love that. I love that so much. The
synchronous cities, the synchronicities are what we live for.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it makes it so good and
there is one more from a group that we've worked
with in the past out of San Antonio.
Speaker 5: We have let's Chat pair of normal.
Speaker 6: Just such a fun group of people to talk to,
and we had some really good conversations about La la
Chusa and one of their experiences.
Speaker 5: So enjoy.
Speaker 11: So truth be told, we actually believe that my boy
is being stalked by a latusa.
Speaker 3: Oh shit about that?
Speaker 11: So okay. So one thing to understand is he's three, right,
so his vocabulary is really well developed, but not you know,
of course, like an adult. Right. So for the longest time,
he's been actually dreaming of a giant duck. Right, And
I know that may be very misleading, but he's been
dreaming about a damn giant duck that likes to pull
on his leg on his bed, right, And that has
gone on for a good while. And he had always
been telling me about this nightmare, about this damn duck
pulling on his leg, trying to get him on that. Well,
recently about I don't know, like a month ago maybe
or a month and a half ago, he wakes up
and we get ready for school, and he comes up
to me and he said, we need flashlights and I
was like, why do we need flashlight then, and he
tells me, well, it's dark outside and I was like, well, yeah,
of course it's night time. And then he says, yeah,
so I could see the bird outside and I was
like what, and he told me he was there was
a giant bird outside and I see him, but I
need flashlight right, like a lot of those lines, and
I was like okay, and then he stops and he
tells me. He says, he told me to come outside,
and it just it blew my mind and I asked him.
I was like, son, are you sure you saw.
Speaker 3: A bird or was it a man?
Speaker 11: Because you know, parent mode kicks in and I'm trying
to figure out what's going on. And he says, no, God,
this big bird. It flap its wings and then they
fly away, and I was like, what the fuck? Like
I let you say it's trying to get my kids.
Speaker 3: Funny. They're so fucking funny. I love it so much.
And it's just so interesting though that I don't know
because because we don't have kids or anything, so it's
so I don't want to say fun but like, I
don't know cool, I don't know. It's interesting to hear
a story of someone in modern times, yes, who has
a child who it feels that they are being lured,
you know, like it's so interesting when he was like,
it's a duck, you know, like this kid sees a
duck and it's like, oh, like, oh, I'm getting chills
right now anyways, you know, and it's like he's explaining
it as a duck, but it could very well be
a white outl or maybe it is a duck. Who
fucking knows she's a shape shifter, you know, So I
don't know. That story is just so crazy to me
and wild to me because it is so on point
with everything we've heard about her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: And yeah.
Speaker 6: So those are really most of the stories that we've
collect did throughout our episodes that we wanted to really
put together for you guys to enhance.
Speaker 5: The let you say experience. Yeah, but I mean, is
there ours?
Speaker 3: Yes, I was just gonna Cybi sister. You know, it's
so great because you know, these these stories, what we
have given you up to this point has been our
public presentation. We have done this a few times. It's
online and you can find this right us doing this
this exact thing. But I'm so excited to do this
here now for the show and record it for the show,
because now we're going to give you our experiences. We're
going to tell you some stories that we have yet
to release to the world, and you're fucking welcome.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I love this.
Speaker 6: I'm very excited and one of the ones that I'm
going to share with you guys. And Bethany mentioned this
early on. We grew up hearing stories from both our
dad's side our mom's side, and you got to hear
it from our dad. So I'm going to do the
honor of sharing what our mom did. Told us her experience.
Speaker 5: Was with La Lachusa.
Speaker 6: And so for those of y'all were we grew up Eastside,
so did our parents, and our mom was hanging out
at her aunt's house and as a young girl hanging out.
Speaker 3: Over the weekend.
Speaker 6: I don't know the exact circumstances, but point is, all
night there was a bird crying out in the front yard, crying, crying, crying,
keeping everybody awake, and it got to the point where
her uncle went outside and told the bird to shut
the fuck up or I'm gonna shoot you, and bird
goes silent, no more noise from the bird the rest
of the night. Cut to the next morning. Everyone's awake
in the house. There's a knock at the front door,
and a young woman is standing there with a very
young child in her hands, and she says to my uncle,
thank you so much for not shooting me last night,
and goes away and walks away.
Speaker 5: And that blew our mind.
Speaker 6: Like the story was literally told to us just like that.
Not a lot of detail, just very much.
Speaker 5: This is what happened.
Speaker 6: He yelled at the bird, said I'm going to shoot
you next morning. Woman at the door saying thank you
for not shooting me, making it.
Speaker 3: Very clear that she was a bird the night before,
just right there, La lechoo.
Speaker 6: So write if she is that shape shifter, maybe she
was crying out in pain giving birth, like who what
was happening in that moment, But for her to walk
up with a young child in her hands and say
thank you, that's a big fucking deal. And if this
did in fact take place, now you got to think,
holy shit, l I let you say shape shift back
into human form to go acknowledge and be thankful that
her life was not taken that night by our uncle.
And I just think that that's so mind blowing that
our mom sat in that house and experienced that and
saw that firsthand just always blew my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that story stuck with me too. I remember I
don't know how old I was, but like I remember
hearing it in just the imagery, like I saw it
in my mind like this woman, you know, going up
to the door with the baby, and like I saw it,
like it just really fucking that shit stuck with me. Man,
that was a really impactful one. And again, like sometimes
the most impactful things are the most simplistic. Oh you know,
it's not a big story, you know, but it is.
Speaker 5: Just like like mind blowing. Yeah yeah, Keanu wo.
Speaker 6: Yeah man, because then you got to sit there and
like try to piece it all together, and it's like
it made such an impact that we heard about it
later in her life, Like it definitely left an impression
and it did it did it to us.
Speaker 5: So very very cool story.
Speaker 6: Yes, So another one that I want to share, and
I think it's just really cool again, really sure, but
also impactful. And I don't know if Bethany you'll recall
this one, but our neighbor across the street. Robert share
her first name. He I can remember him saying or
telling the story that one night there was an owl
on his shed and the owl was making a lot
of noise and wouldn't go away. So Robert thinking, oh, fuck,
this is La Lachusa. He started cussing at the bird.
And we'll talk a little bit about that a little
bit later. But he's cussing at the bird. He's telling
it to, you know, get the fuck out of there,
and he got really aggressive towards the bird, and then
the owl eventually did fly away and take off.
Speaker 5: But I can remember him telling us that story.
Speaker 6: I can't remember like standing in the middle of the
street and we're all just kind of hearing the story,
and he's like, oh, yeah, I was cussing at that
damn bird, you know, ha ha ha la Usa, And
like I was like what, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 6: It happened so quickly, and it was so like short,
but also impactful to me because as as I got
older and learned more, I'm like, holy shit, maybe that was,
in fact another experience with La Lachusa. I mean, it
could have just been a and he could be you know,
exaggerating the story.
Speaker 3: But I always thought that was really cool.
Speaker 6: So even just right across the street from where we
grew up, uh experience.
Speaker 5: With all that she stuff potentially.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really remember that one fully, but it
sounds familiar, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I think I was just too young. I don't know
that's fair. Why don't you tell us one? You do remember?
Speaker 3: So one night a couple of years ago, me and
Leah were, you know, driving around the old neighborhood. We
were in East Austin, like kind of circling our old haunts. Yeah,
you know, like the Banalas areas and stuff, you know.
And we used to go to this swimming pool called
Mets swimming Pool. And if you're an Unsolved Mysteries fan,
Mets Elementary was on those old mysteries and our dad
back in the in the day used to live on
in that in that general area. So we kind of
were just cruising. We were cruising through Mets. We were
cruising through the hood. And one of those the Mets
swimming pool that we used to hang at, right, it
was the swim So we used to swim at the
Swamp community pool all the time when we were kids,
and so we're getting how we're driving around, we're excited
and we see that the sprinklers or whatever on.
Speaker 5: So it's not really sprinklers.
Speaker 3: What a water path. It's a water it's like a
little mini water park, you know. It's like a little
there's like a daisy that drips water and like weird
architectural you know, structures that spout waters so kids can
run through it on hot days and stuff. And it
was a hot summer night and this water is on
and we are so excited and giddy because we're like,
oh fuck, let's go be big kids, like little kids.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 3: It's again what it had to be? What time was it?
It was late?
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I think it was roughly like around I
mean like late enough, like ten thirty ish eleven ish,
made like around that time frame. Yeah, yeah, okay, So
we're it's late, you know, creeping up watching hour.
Speaker 3: And when we take off her shoes and we're running
every skittle it diddle it deadline around splitch splashing about
and giggling and having a good time, and then we
heard a scream right, yes, yes, it was a woman
yelling like a ah, And we like look at each
other like just stopped dead in our fucking tracks, And
I think, too, what I want to call out?
Speaker 6: So Bethany told you we're at the met swimming pool.
Roughly a city block away is Lake Austin Town Lake.
So we're by this huge body of water in East Austin.
Speaker 5: In a haunted fucking area.
Speaker 6: Splitch splashing and then yeah, we hear hey, hey, and
it kind of sounded to me like it was coming
from the lake area, so kind of like behind us almost,
And I was like, so we stopped dead in our
fucking tracks. We can look at each other, like we
mentioned earlier, like we're like, okay, we gotta fucking go,
because I didn't see anybody, couldn't see anybody yelling, and
it was like they were but I felt like they
were yelling at us, like they could see us, but
we could not see them.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm getting chills about it because.
Speaker 6: We again just dead in our tracks, like fog Okay,
I'm thinking, fuck, I'm barefoot the cars over there, what
the fuck are we gonna do? And I think like
just in a second, we're like geared up and like
bolted out of there. But what Bethany did not see
and what I called out, because I Bethany's running before me.
Speaker 5: She's gone, and I'm like, that's great.
Speaker 3: She's my baby sister. I gotta make sure she's protected.
Speaker 5: She's gone. I'm like, get into the car.
Speaker 6: I look back, y'all and on top, like the only
light source we had was like a street light. I
look up at the street light and there is a
big white owl sitting on the top of the street
light looking at us, and like, I'm getting chills now,
telling y'all, Bethany did not see this. I get in
the car behind Bethany and I'm.
Speaker 5: Like, this, fuck, let use bru it was a fucking owl.
Speaker 3: Out there staring at us from roughly where the screams
were coming from. Because I look back and look up
and there there's the fucking owl and like I'm covered
in goosey too right now, like and we're in the.
Speaker 5: Car, like, oh my god, oh, I.
Speaker 6: Like freaking the fuck out because it like what else
could it have been? Like it didn't make any other sense,
like this scream, this bird, that location us being dumbasses
in the middle of the night, partying.
Speaker 3: Doing shit we shouldn't have been doing, like Dad said,
and boom la La Choose. Yeah, I yeah, I did
not see the bird. And when she told me that,
I was like what the fuck, you know, like, I
was like what, like are you serious? Like what and
like like she said, it came from behind us, and
I heard it sounded like a fucking woman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was for sure a woman.
Speaker 3: Woman screaming. And you're right, I didn't even think about
it until you said it right now that we were
like right by the lake, you know, and you know,
yeah we were out late at night. You know, maybe
we shouldn't have been there, but we weren't doing anything
bad in particular. So for me, again, my personal belief
here is that maybe she was warning us to get gone,
you know, maybe something was going to happen. Maybe there
was a bad person over there, like you never know,
we lived, Yeah, we weren't.
Speaker 5: Protected, and she protected us. And that's what I would like.
Speaker 3: To believe, you know, because although within our family and
friend circles, like, we do have some stories of her
that are pretty chilling and messed up. But on the
other hand, we have some stories where she is compassionate
and kind and thankful. And here in our experience it
was terrifying because we have this system of beliefs. Yeah,
you know, ingrained in us, and but she didn't attack us.
I mean I didn't even see her. Yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that's you're uh speaking out your views
of it. Yeah, I can agree with that, like maybe
some shit was just gonna go down or you know,
to your point, somebody negative in the area. We had
to get ourselves out of that because yeah, it got
our attention and it got us the fuck out of there,
and we were not harmed. Like the bird didn't fly
towards us. Bird just sat there, stared at us, and
we got the fuck.
Speaker 3: Out of there. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So oh now when you say like that, maybe not,
it still was fucking horrific. I still get chills thinking
about it.
Speaker 3: That's nice. I thinks, thanks, I let you so.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 3: And I say this because you know, we have done
this presentation a handful of times. I'm constantly like double checking,
like my, my, you know, quote facts. You know, we're
like double checking you know, the information that I get,
and so I'm always rereading the same shit or like
you know, and the idea that it is a cautionary
tale makes me feel like, okay, well, I'm not a sinner.
I'm not doing something bad or like, you know, I'm
not a drunk, I'm not a cheat. So maybe she
is on my side, you know, because she was. She
was the one that was wrong. You know, I would
consider myself maybe not a Bruja or courandetto. But I
think we are magic, you know. I think that we
have just ancestral magics.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I think we're spiritual enough people, and I think she
may be our people. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm
just talking on my bud. I don't know. I like
it all. I like it. You got a smart book.
But now that we've told you some stories about her,
how in the world do you protect yourself from her
if you don't want her around? Like, what do you do?
You know? Like, of course, you know in our little scenario,
it was so quick, you know, we ran, you know,
we were fine. But like, if you feel threatened, if
you feel like she's on a deck, Yes, what do
you do?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 6: You can start with a simple prayer, just say chief,
check me out, protect your child, and keep me safe
from the lachusa. But no, really braying it's more powerful,
it said again just kind of because women respect women
it's more powerful to use the prayer to the Virgin
Mary lavin versus gesture everyday kind of prayer. So if
you wanted to set it back up and respect, you
lean into that Virgin Mary prayer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I love that, you know they
say to use the Virgin Mary because again, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: Just like lady, yes, no, man tells me whoa baby?
Mean it?
Speaker 3: I got she knows what she's talking about. I'll I'll
see it later on Friday, call me.
Speaker 8: Alday mad as fun okay, bothered.
Speaker 3: Another thing on like the spiritual level, and something I
found interesting was you could do preventative.
Speaker 7: Care.
Speaker 3: You could tie a rope with seven knots and hang
it on your door, and that is said to keep
her away, and and and again. Like with numerology, the
number seven is always coming up as a sacred number,
you know. So I think it's so interesting that it
is particularly it is particularly seven knots they have to put.
So let's say you throw that rope out, you know,
on your door, and she's flying around and she's like,
oh am, I gonna snatch up today, and she's like
I see that rope peace. You know, She's like you
acknowledge me, Oh, acknowledge you? Yeah, you know, so they say,
or like the sources that we got this from say that,
like this is supposed to be a sign of like respect,
like I understand that you exist, please stay away from me.
Speaker 6: I like it too, because it also made me think
of and I don't know the exact legend of folklore,
but it's like if you leave a broom outside, like
the witch or the cryptid or whatever we're talking about
in that version, it can't come in until it counts
all the broom bristles or whatever the case is. And
I thought that too. So even if she does pick
your house, Like, how difficult is it gonna be for
a bird to unravel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's gonna take some time, you know.
Speaker 6: So I also thought about that too, like you hear
these types of things and they just take different shapes
and forms and different symbols depending on culture, location and
all those good things.
Speaker 5: Because it did make me.
Speaker 6: Think instantly of oh, and you'll see it now too,
like put your broomstick up over your door and it'll
catch all that bad energy or sweep it out and
things like that. So I think that was really cool
and something that popped in mind, and I think for
me too another way, what to do when you're faced
with the litue. So one of my favorites is to
cuss and just.
Speaker 3: And I kind of mentioned it was Robert's story, like
get the fuck out of here, you fucking bird, Like.
Speaker 5: Just really be super disrespectful.
Speaker 12: Just really let her have it words that maybe make
you blush, you know, just really lean into it and
fucking cuss her the fuck out, and uh, it could
be therapeutic and also protect your life, but it could
also piss her off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, might so maybe be mindful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it is funny and
interesting because again, like we've heard not just from Robert,
but so many other stories where people were like, just
cuss it out. Some people even say cussing her around
in Spanish in particular is even more powerful Spanish.
Speaker 6: But yees, so I think I think that's good too,
like being able to write the Spanish piece. And I've
even heard like telling her specifically to go back to
Hell or saying something.
Speaker 5: Like go to Hell, and like like.
Speaker 6: Damning her to a specific place will also help, you know,
keep keep her back.
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, well, yeah, she probably thinks that's
fucking rude.
Speaker 3: Don't deal with it.
Speaker 5: Back from once you came to the files of Hell.
Speaker 3: I'm such a douy. I fuck up and be like.
Speaker 5: To the files Mountain.
Speaker 3: Not a place there. But one of my favorites is
is when Leah talks about this one. But I'll set
her up for it. Oh gosh, salt and chili powder friends.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so it is said that you can use
salt and chili powder. And I like to say to
our Latino listeners out there, we already know we carry
around our little tiens.
Speaker 3: So as long as you keep your little thihen's on hand,
you should be able to.
Speaker 5: Ward off us.
Speaker 3: And then after something like that, go use that thien in.
Speaker 6: You know you're gonna use it for But look at
that thahen cells should go.
Speaker 3: Through the roof suonsor us.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it so much because I really do have
little tiens. We do, we do. But and I love
it because you know, they say throw it at it,
but it's like, yeah, if anybody throws salt and chili
powder out you at you, at anyone, that fucking sucks,
you know, it's like, ah my eyes ah it burn
it burns. But I also love the salt aspect because,
as you know, you know, salt is consistently used across
the board as a protection mineral. Yeah, as a protection
crystal mineral. We see it. We see it an incredible
and important, uh scholarly works such as hocus Pocus and
Supernatural and Supernatural those guys go through salt like no
one's fucking yes that rock salt.
Speaker 5: Like damn, they must have like a costco.
Speaker 3: Membership to stay up on the amount of salt they
fucking need in that show.
Speaker 5: I love it though, so salty, salty, supernatural, but I
do love that.
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, salt is definitely a protector. People
say to put it on your windowsills, like draw a
line with it across your door, like it's something that
is going to cleanse out bad spirits and keep you protected.
So just an extra, you know, reason to carry around
some tang or something, little beer so you never know
when you're gonna need it. You know you got a
fruit cup, you know you got some kukovesa.
Speaker 6: Oh you're ready ready, you ready to stay ready? You
don't got to get ready if you stay ready. Man,
you guys, like we we really enjoy and like to
Bethany's point, we've done this live a couple of times,
but it was really exciting to come here and share
with y' all little bit bits that we haven't shared before.
But I mean, you know, that's the history, that's how
she haunts. Those are some of the stories. Uh, and
before we you know, cleanse it because you know, we
got to we really want to share. And Bethany is
going to dive into why we really love talking about
Lalla Tusa.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I really sat with this because sometimes I have
big thoughts and they're hard to get out to write
it down, and after spending so much time with la Letusa,
this is what I feel. This is my personal analysis.
I find it interesting that women are often demonized in
our legends, and even the girl who dances with the devil.
There were all wronged in some way, typically by a man,
but sometimes by society itself. Throughout much of history, women
haven't had access to means of retribution when they're wrong,
so in order to get justice for themselves, they've had
to take it for themselves. Women have to be smart, creative,
and ruthless. Instead of celebrating this, these stories turn a
wronged woman seeking justice into a terrifying monster, demonizing them,
and in that way reapply the suppression to these women
by turning them into a negative arca type. I think
that by now you have noticed that I love the Choose.
Loma Choos is a bad fucking bitch. I love her.
I think she's misunderstood, but even fucking so, regardless of
like my personal belief about her. If I fucking hear
that whistle, I'm not whistling back, and that's just that. Yes, respect, respect, son, respect,
I love it.
Speaker 5: I agree. Beautifully done.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, even after something is so profound, it's so real,
I think we still need to cleanse. Let's do a
big sister, omni regair, soum omni regair.
Speaker 13: So take a big deep breath and.
Speaker 5: Release that mother's account.
Speaker 8: You are.
Speaker 5: Whoa man?
Speaker 3: That feels good.
Speaker 5: We do get we dog, we're dead.
Speaker 3: In aora, We're all.
Speaker 6: But uh, I'm very excited. I feel good. It was
nice talking about our favorite little witch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much everyone for indulging us, especially me,
big sister, thank you for letting me get my nerd on.
It's always so much fun to talk about the things
we love. So much, and we really appreciate if you
hung out with us today, and we hope that you
come back.
Speaker 5: For more of these fucking.
Speaker 3: But until then, you know what I'm not today, the
goodness because I love me Leia, and we're signing out
for two mositos from these body thos. Thank