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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, this is Christina and this is another episode

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of a Spooky Tales, a podcast for all things is

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Pooky Hunted Places to Crime in Latin America. But today

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is not a normal episode because I am in the

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middle of packing and then unpacking and wow, I underestimated

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how much work this was, and so there is no

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episode of Speaky Tales. We're taking a little two week break.

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We'll be back in two weeks. But in the meantime,

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I did find a couple of our podcast besties to

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keep you company while I'm gone because of my unfortunate

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mistakes and taking too long to pack and unpack. So

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today I have the Paranorma Putas and their episode on

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La Letusa and ohg listeners, you know, we've had the

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Parama Putas on before and we love them, and you

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know what, it's been too long since we last had

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an episode with them, but here they are for you

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to listen to. I adore them. They are two sisters.

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On their podcast, they have some episodes where family members

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come and talk to them about their paranormal experiences or

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they share their own paranormal experiences, and then they have

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a bunch of episodes recapping that show with Zach Beggins

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that I am drawing. I am forgetting the name of

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Ghost Adventures. They recapit those episodes and it's a lot

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of fun. They recapit those episodes and it's a lot

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of fun. So we'll leave you in their company and

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we'll be back in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: There are shows in this world that we will never

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fully understand understand except Ghost Adventures. We have watched every

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Speaker 4: Watching alongside each other because no one we know really

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gives it. There an gives it. Are watching Zach and

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crew catch groundbreaking proof of the para normal, inspiring us

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to explore our own interest in other worldly phenomena. This

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is our podcast. We are Paranormal Fast.

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Speaker 5: What a good dime?

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Speaker 3: Already such a good dime And we're just.

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Speaker 5: In the intro music Baby Baby, what about? Everybody is

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know those Halloween animatronics that are

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like those are the real good ones. I want to

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voice them. Someone get me a job doing you'd be

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so good. But anyway, sorry, we're not here to talk

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about me voicing spooky pumpkins or anything like that. We're

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here to talk about fucking witches and owls and shit.

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Speaker 5: I was like, fucking witches.

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Speaker 3: I mean not really, but you know, emphasis on witches,

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not the fucking, but the witches. Today we'll be talking

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about the legend of La Tusa. Actually it should be

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more like, oh the baddest which of them? In my opinion, Yeah, man,

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she really is the legend of La La Tusa. I

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feel like is one that stuck with me way more

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than like Larona or what else.

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Speaker 5: That's really kind of what when.

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Speaker 3: I just it's none of it ever affected me as

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much or as deeply as the legend of La La Jus.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I have to agree, And even like the

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whole reason we started this show where it was because

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of the stories we heard growing up, and a majority

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of them were experiences or stories around La La Usa.

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So yeah, to Bethany's point, just really had the biggest impact.

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And I think one of the scariest things even to

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this day, like I see an owl and I freak out.

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But yeah, it left the biggest impression. So I'm excited

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that we're going to spend some time talking about her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, And I love that you brought up

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that owl because you know, I feel like that's a

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great place to start when it comes to the history

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and the origin of the legend. And I just had

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a fall that you know, you see the owl in

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it makes you feel a certain way, like it has

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those connotations, and I can't help but feel that not

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only is it something that you know, we feel because

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we grew up listening to the stories, but it's also

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in our DNA as indigenous or like native, you know,

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indigenous DNA, you know, like we are, you know, from Mexico,

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South America, you know, are our ancestors, and you know

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the legend does begin there. So big sister, would you

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like to give us a little history? Oh heck, yeah,

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man so, according to the myth uh. According to the myth,

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La la Chisa is often described as a massive owl,

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sometimes up to seven feet tall, with glowing eyes and

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a face of an old woman, which is fucking horrefic brawl.

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I mean, old ladies can't stand up straight, so to

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see a seventh in the fucking form of a bird, like,

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Speaker 5: So already very creepy.

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Speaker 6: She is said to appear at night, lurking around homes

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like farmlands ranches. Definitely keep that in mind, especially when

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we hear about the origins of the story. But many

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stories claim that she was once a powerful witch who

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was wronged by villagers, leading her to seek revenge by

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transforming into a terrifying creature, creating right and building the

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stories around La Les.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of want to go a little bit

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further into that, like how she became to be, because

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you know, people say that she was wronged in some way.

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is like a white witch, right, so they thought she

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was like a dark magic kind of witch. And the people,

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you know, like mob Rule, you know, came and persecuted her,

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and she came back as avengeful owl. Some say that

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because she was a Brucha, that she made a deal

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with the devil to have special powers and again making

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her a threat to the community, and they come after

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her and she comes back as an evil ow. My

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personal favorite take on how she came to be is

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that she was wronged by a man or by losing

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her child. So there are versions of the story saying

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that there was a man he like cheated on her.

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He's a drunk, you know, and he accidentally killed her kid,

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you know, in like drunk driving accident or like whatever,

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and she comes back and kids his ass. Ye, you know,

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she's fucking pissed. She comes back as avengeful owl. Another

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version is that she had a son in the community,

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accused him of doing something wrong and persecuted him, and

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then again she's pissed, comes back as an eventful owl.

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So I love those because it's more about women empowerment.

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It's more about this woman who is fucking pissed and

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comes back and seeks her fucking vengeance. And that that's

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why that one's my favorite, instead of it just being

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naturally we hate this woman because she she's a bruha.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I like that a lot too.

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Speaker 3: It makes it more I guess for me, it's still

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creepy and even as we learn more, but I think

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it makes it more like, Okay, maybe she's on the

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lookout or to your point, like if I ever see her,

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shain't after me, like it's not for me necessarily, So yeah,

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and as it is someday, I don't know, we get

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we'll get definitely get into a little bit more of that.

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But realing it back into kind of again the origin.

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You know, we always wonder like who started this? You know,

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how far back can we take it? And the most

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interesting thing about folklore is that it is an oral tradition.

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Speaker 5: You will never know, but we can speculate.

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Speaker 3: And some of the things that people speculate is that

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it predates, you know, it's pre Hispanic culture. It's about

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fifteen sixteenth century legend that has mess American influences and

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cultures including like the Aztecs and the Mayans and the Machikas.

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and omens of doom, as well as Native Americans. You know,

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so in like you know what we call now South America, right,

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we have Native culture, the Apaches, the Navajo also seeing

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the owl as an omen of death or destruction. Natives

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also believe that owls were shape shifters and not even

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birds at all. Some shaman in the cultures also thought

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that owls were messengers and acted as a spiritual consultant

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between shaman and you know, the other realm, and they

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would consult with these owls about other people's sicknesses and

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even punishments.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, And I really like that.

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Speaker 6: I like that idea of being connected, like and you

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mentioned it earlier, right, like it stuck with us so

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much because of our roots and how it's embedded within

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our DNA and how we connect to the owl animal itself.

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And I think that that's really cool. And then it's like,

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well when did this get scary? Because I mean to

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be a messenger between the spirit world and you know,

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you're having these impactful moments or you know, I don't know,

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having spiritual connection and now next.

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Speaker 3: Thing, you know, the owl's evil? Like how did we

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get to that point? You know, what do you think?

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How do you think I'm gonna guess?

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Speaker 5: Colonize a.

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Speaker 3: Wild concep absolutely So around the sixteenth century, Spanish colonizers

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come through colonize Mexico, and of course they bring their

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own culture and their own folklores about witches and shape shifters,

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you know. So the Spanish, you know, supposedly had tales

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of witches or brujas and their bruhas could transform into animals,

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not just birds, but any animal. But apparently they did

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kind of hone in on the bird like like it's like, oh,

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which can be anything, but they prefer birds in particular,

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and they do this to carry out dark magic. And

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so you have these European stories mixing with these indigenous beliefs,

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and you have you know, the creation of what we

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now know as La la Chusa.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think that's great, and I mean and

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even over time, the story of Lichisa becomes so widespread

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and like I mentioned right, keeping in mind the rural rural,

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so rauga.

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Speaker 3: We're out here in the rural, especially in big lands

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with no one around in the big lands. In the

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Speaker 6: No, the community is really right of northern Mexico and

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even South Texas. Like you hear about La Tusa mostly

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within those border towns. And it's because the tilt served

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us both like supernatural warning and a moral lesson. But

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again it comes together with all these cultures blending and

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building on right, the symbolic of the owl, the story

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of a woman who's been, you know, in some way,

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and we're building, and we're building so to have these

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cultures collide and in such in that populated area. Now

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we're getting to the full folklore of La La Chusa.

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So I think that's really cool. Yeah, and it is

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interesting to me. Again, with a lot of these folklore stories,

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these tales that we cover, they're usually cautionary tales, right,

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Speaker 3: And I have more to say about that, but we're

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gonna keep going. But what you know, the thing I

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love about it, and We've said this so many times,

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so I'm sorry for old listeners, but you know, for

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any new listeners. We love talking to people about these

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legends because we still have sightings of her in modern times.

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We have stories on our mother's side, our father's side,

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our best friends, have stories that have been on our show.

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People that we have never met before we did our show,

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that we talked to who were in our neighborhood when

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we grew up, saw these things, heard these things, and

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assumed it was a legusa, you know, So that I

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love that that this is a fifteenth sixteenth century like

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creature or cryptid, whatever you want to say. And we're

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still talking about her in twenty twenty five, and that's

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fucking badass.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, She's still very powerful.

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Speaker 6: It's the whole But because I think so many people believe,

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or so many people share the story, that these legends

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live on, especially within our culture, So I think it's

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really cool. I mean and even us, like I feel

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like we had a recent encounter, not that long ago

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that we can talk about a little later, but it was, yeah,

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very impactful and immediately I'm like, bro, that was fucking Jusa.

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Speaker 5: We got to get out of here.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, still in our fucking thirties, look an

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owl still scared the shit out of us and we

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got to go. But again, just how impactful and how

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powerful and how relatable I think the story is and

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why so many people still.

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Speaker 5: Carry it so close.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and before we get into our personal accounts, I

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would like to talk about what she does, Like, what

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powers does she have? Wire people actually scared of this bird.

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I mean, granted, the imagery of a seven foot tall

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owl with an old woman's face on it, it's pretty creepy.

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That's pretty fucking creepy. But she's a shape shifter. She

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doesn't have to be that. Sometimes she's just an ol,

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Sometimes she's just an old woman. Sometimes she's a young woman.

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So we know one of her powers is shape shifting.

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What else, big Sister, do we know about?

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Speaker 5: Let you.

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Speaker 6: Well, you might already be able to assume based on

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her build.

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Speaker 5: She is above bird like.

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Speaker 6: She is a freakishly strong the bird slash which such

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strength come together and really build for an impact voice.

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Speaker 3: She's beef beef like.

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Speaker 6: No one's getting away from her because she'll just like

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knock you out, pick you up, and go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. She's pretty brute. She is, uh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite tales of her strength is that

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she can pick up a full grown fucking person and

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or a vehicle, Like if you're driving around your fucking

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truck in the row areas and she don't like you,

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she goes scoopy a ass, Yeah, bro, you can run.

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Speaker 6: You can't drive away, you can't run away, Like, yeah,

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there's just no point.

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Speaker 3: Like just give it. If she's in, if you're in

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her sight, she can fucking pick you up if you're

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out and about, you know, And that that is such

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a like also a hilarious like imagery is like this

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massive owl carrying a fucking truck, Like, what do you do?

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Speaker 5: What is that doing over there?

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Speaker 3: That's hilarious alone. Yeah, some Harry Potter shit nowigs taking

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aretas I love it, no, bro, But I like the

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how how she lures you out. So she in the

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rural areas, she's gonna lure you if you're in the area.

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Goshoul gets your attention.

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Speaker 5: We texted to y'all.

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Speaker 6: She it said that she mimics a crying baby, which

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I think for a number of people would be like alarming.

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People would go and investigate hearing a child that could

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potentially be in harm and danger. So I think that

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that's really wild. And I and and again I just

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think not for me, and good thing. I don't really

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like children. I'll call the cops, I think now before

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because you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's terrifying.

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Speaker 3: It's really fucked up because it's praying on your vulnerability

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as a kind and empathetic person. So it's like, oh fuck,

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I'm gonna go save this baby.

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Speaker 5: Bitch your lunch.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 3: Like, So that that's really kind of fucked up, you know.

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In my point of view, my personal favorite was always

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She'll whistle at you and that's because of Dad. You know.

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One of some of the earliest stories he told us

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was like about hearing a whistle and and just like

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he would say, don't whistle back. That's it. Let'son learned.

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Speaker 5: I do not whistle back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's just something that's ingrained, like don't whistle back,

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you know. And every time I hear a whistle, it's like,

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what is it, who is it? Where is it coming from?

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And if you can't find where it's coming from, I'm

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going inside.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think that like, if you can't find

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the source of that whistle, nope, I'm good and I'm

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out of there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it makes me thankful. I never really learned

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how to whistle.

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Speaker 5: That's right, you did it.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm just being protected by my ancestors. They're like, Nope,

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you don't need to learn how to do that.

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Speaker 5: You're good, You're good.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I do remember one time we were

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hanging out outside partying and we heard a whistle and

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we were with a group of friends and me and

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you looked at each other and.

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Speaker 8: We were like.

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Speaker 3: And then like we heard it again, and we just

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like went inside like real quick, like we didn't run,

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but it was.

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Speaker 5: Like a shuffle. We was like get in there, and

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like I didn't tell anybody no.

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Speaker 3: But then we came inside, they were like, why did

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y'all come inside?

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Speaker 5: Y'all were like on a mission.

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Speaker 4: We were like.

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Speaker 3: So shitty.

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Speaker 9: So I guess that's a cue for you guys if

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you're ever hanging out with us and we and bessay,

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just go m I A probably lela usa en raul,

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get out of there, Get the fuck out of there.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, we was with people who may not have

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known the legend, and we weren't trying to like, you know,

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We was just like I know, you know, and I

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know that you know that I I know that, we

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know we need to get inside. Well, I guess that's fair.

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If the crowd were a little different than more of

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us would have just probably looked at each other. More

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of us would have been like, what, No, it's great,

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it's just it's just, uh, it's just that ingrained in us.

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Speaker 5: It's true, it's true.

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Speaker 3: I love it. And then some of the last things

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that we kind of noted about her as like a creature,

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what we know about her is that she is said

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to eat her victims. That's why she's gonna snatch you up.

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You're gonna be lunch. She is said to also pray,

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particularly on drunk men, because again, remember one of the

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origins of the story is that a drunk man did

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her wrong in some way. You know, a lot of

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the time they say he accidentally killed her kid. But

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then that is just so curious to me because some

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say that she prayed on children. So it's like, Okay, well,

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is she praying on the children because she wants to

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take care of a kid because she lost hers? Because

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why else would you take another kid if someone wronged you?

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Or are you taking these kids because they're the kids

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of the ant like the people who wronged you, you know,

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Like I don't know, it's just interesting to me like

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that she's gonna go and pray on kids. So I

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feel like, if you believe in a more malicious version

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of la lech you so that's what she's gonna do.

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She's gonna fucking take the kids, and she's gonna eat people,

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and she's gonna be awful. But I believe in a

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more just Lasa, and my laa Chusa is gonna go

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after people that are doing you know, bad things, drunk

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men cheating on their wives, fucking people committing really awful,

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atrocious things, particularly in the middle of the night, because

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that's when Dad would say. He said something like, what

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was it, Like I was out doing things I should

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have been doing. Yeah, yeah, like he was out late, Yeah,

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fucking around, drinking Partardian being not responsible and just yeah,

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and then a warning, Yeah, you better get your shit together.

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Speaker 5: That's my Letusa, that's my girl.

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Speaker 6: Like I had a thought like, what if she's like

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the Dexter Morgan of uh fucking cryptids, and like, even

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though they're children, maybe she knows they're going to grow

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up to be fucking like Hitlers and ship And well.

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Speaker 3: Girl, she missed, she missed them, She missed a couple,

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she missed a couple. Fuck, I think I think we

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need to summon her tonight. Maybe that's not but I

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was like, well, hey, we don't know. That's seculation exactly

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to the point. It's theory, it's speculation, it's folklore. And

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and again like the story is so old, so many

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people are gonna imprint theirselves onto it, And this is

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me imprinting myself onto it. This is me saying that

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my law Letusa is a fucking bad just bitch, but

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I was so scared of her. Well you know, well again,

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we grew up on a lot of stories. And you know,

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if you have seen have you been so mucky and

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privileged to have san Me and Lee alive? I'm so

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sorry if you have, if you have been so blessed

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in your life, then you may have seen us, you know,

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do this presentation. We have done many talks on La

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Lachusa because she's one of our favorites, and one of

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the things we love to do is share some of

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the experiences from you know, our family and our dad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like dad does have a lot of experiences with

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this burden, even down to like many different things that

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we've already called out, even like how she calls people out.

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That's something that our dad has experienced and that he

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shared with our listeners before. But Tibethany's point, if you're new,

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we want to share that with you now. So here's

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some of our dad's experiences with La Lachusa.

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Speaker 7: According to them, they've been big whistle leg. They whistled

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at you and they try to call you over. And

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I've heard that plenty of times late at night maybe

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stuff I shouldn't be doing. I was out there where

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I shouldn't be and I.

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Speaker 3: Would hear that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean just hearing how you can be

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called right, or how your attention can be grabbed by

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la la chusa. And again our dad experience that is

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so wild. But he has so many moments with this

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cryptid that we got more to share.

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Speaker 3: With you guys. Oh yeah, this one's one of my faves.

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It's about a witch he saw when he was a

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little kid.

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Yeah, this is a good one. You're

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gonna like it.

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Speaker 7: I had some swing sets in the back and I

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remember my brother Bona Facio and me playing on the

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swing sets. For some reason, I looked up and I

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saw bright light. It almost looked like a and it

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landed on our house, on our roof of the house.

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And this bright light just stood there. It didn't explode,

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it didn't do nothing like that. It was just said that.

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And when I looked at it and it solely dissolved,

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I saw a woman come from that. She was a

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big woman, I remember that, and.

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Speaker 3: She looked at us and she laughed, she laughed.

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Speaker 7: I remember running inside telling my mom that there was

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a woman on the roof. My mom just hesitated a

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little bit and she came out. By the time we

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got back out there.

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Speaker 3: She was gone.

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Speaker 7: Later on in life, as I kept on talking about it,

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my mom finally acknowledged what I saw was something called

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a witch or the.

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Speaker 3: Tatum fucking hilarious, A big woman, a big woman woman,

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And I love it, Like, how do you argue that memory?

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Like I think I remember, and I remember this story

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when we were young, being told this story, and for

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the longest time, I thought it happened at our grandma's house,

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but it happened at his grandma's house. And I can't

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remember looking at Grandma's roof and just like imagining a

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woman sitting at the top and scaring myself because the

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story was so impactful and just how he described it,

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Like I mean, I don't argue it because the memory

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and how he tells the story is consistent, right, like

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nothing changes, and I think it's so creepy. On top

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of that, he was with his brothers, yeah you know,

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and they saw it too, or they say they did,

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you know what I mean, And Grandma eventually coming out

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and being like, yeah, there's witches in the world.

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Speaker 5: It's just a witch. Don't worry about Like, what the

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fuck kind of shit is that? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's just like the validation of

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like one, there were witnesses two. My mother is playing

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it off and then eventually tells me, Okay, there are witches.

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So it's just it's hard enough to you know, believe

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or ticket face value a few you know. Yeah, no,

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I like it.

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Speaker 6: But he has more, you guys, if that wasn't enough,

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there was a there's a moment. Our dad lived in

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Round Rock for a little while and he liked to

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hang out in the backyard, and he shared with us

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an experience he had while hanging out in the backyard

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and maybe having let.

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Speaker 5: You sa stop by it, Yeah, just to say it,

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what sun, have a beer or something?

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Speaker 3: Soup, homie, I got that subvess on it.

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Speaker 7: Enjoy Like people say, it's a lot of Tucia is

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a big old white bird. I mean this sung bitch

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was big. I mean I heard his wings flat. I'm

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looking at this room right now. It's a twelve footer,

472
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,599
maybe about a foot one's friend.

473
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 5: He was big.

474
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 7: He was so big, and for some reason I felt

475
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,960
he was staring right at me because I looked that

476
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,920
up and I could swear I saw his eyes. I

477
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,839
looked up and when he hit that tree where it leave.

478
00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 5: It, that damn tree swayed.

479
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,759
Speaker 7: He hit that tree with a force and it just

480
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:17,079
gotta move back and forth. I said, shit, I'm witting inside.

481
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: Dude. Yeah, dude, fuck that like eight foot wingspan. Say what,

482
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,440
bro the tree moved. Yeah, that's a big motherfucker. That

483
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,680
is a big fucker. Yeah, man. And you know, it's

484
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400
so funny because I remember when this happened. I remember

485
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,519
when he told us about it, like the next weekend

486
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,359
or whatever, like it was very close to when it happened,

487
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,640
and he told us and he pointed out like where

488
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,279
the yeah, where it's slanted. Yeah, it's so good. And

489
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,559
to be fair, I never really hung out in that backyard.

490
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,039
And now that I think about it, like we know,

491
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,759
didn't really play that much. Right there in the backyard

492
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,640
was creepy, so already had a vibe.

493
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,559
Speaker 6: You know, I didn't want to be back there anyway.

494
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:06,599
There was a particular area back there that was not good,

495
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,119
like around the shed, yes, yeah, and so.

496
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,039
Speaker 3: It was like the restroom that walk away and then

497
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,440
the shed that corner back there was just fucking creepy

498
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,160
dark in a way that is not due to the

499
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,279
lighter dark energy.

500
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is dark.

501
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: We've never talked about that, Yeah, I don't think so,

502
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,559
you know, I still dream about that place sometimes. Crazy.

503
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 6: It was a wild round rocks haunted as fuck. Yeah,

504
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,599
and it was by like a little creek, and we're

505
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:35,400
gonna have to have like a full bow conversation about it.

506
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,079
But yes, after hearing that, definitely didn't go into that backyard.

507
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

508
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so crazy. It's like I feel like we

509
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,839
had the same epiphany at the same time. That fucking

510
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,880
creek the water round Rock is named round Rock because

511
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,599
of that round rock in the water. Yeah, fucking conductors

512
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,920
all around. It's surrounded by sacred waters, you know, like

513
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:01,359
those waters was sacred. Anyways, we got hits it, yeah,

514
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,720
super anyways. But so yeah, yeah, so good, so good.

515
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:08,279
And that's not even the last from good old pedro

516
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Oh Papa paranormal uh uh. He had another experience. And

517
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
I like this one a lot.

518
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 6: It's fucking terrifying, But he experienced this as a young

519
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,000
kid with his grandpa, and I just think that that's

520
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,960
kind of wild.

521
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,039
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorites as well, and one that

522
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,519
really haunted me as a kid.

523
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 7: But I know it was a long road, it was dark,

524
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,240
no lights, and all of a sudden, there's a big

525
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:37,279
thump on the cab of his pickup truck. It was

526
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,079
a thump and then like a scratch. When that happened,

527
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,759
it's light. When I looked at my grandfather, he showed

528
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,799
a little uh, like, what the hell's going on? But

529
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,960
he really didn't scream out or yell. I don't know

530
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,759
like that. He kept this composure, I guess you would say.

531
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,039
And I kept on looking at him, and we traveled

532
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,440
and he didn't stop to check the lights. I already

533
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,359
that he kept on moving for some reason. He might

534
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,160
like he might have known what the hell might have happened.

535
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,480
Then he kept on moving out of that area. And

536
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,960
then slowly but surely, as we came out of the area,

537
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:15,880
the lights came back on. The sound on the cab

538
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,519
had stopped. But I saw him, and I saw his face.

539
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:23,359
I remember his face. He just stayed s dirty on

540
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,279
the wheel, both hands on the wheel, and he floored

541
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,119
it on the hell he saw the road and from

542
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:36,799
I really don't know it was dark.

543
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking horrific. I couldn't imagine. I don't know what

544
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:51,359
I would do, honestly, Like, I think it's really cool

545
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:55,079
that he says that, you know, his grandpa kept his composure,

546
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,880
you know that he just kept looking forward and just

547
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,319
kept going, you know, because I mean, that's just that's

548
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:04,119
gotta be hard. You know, it's scary, like, what the

549
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:07,000
fuck's going on? Something's on my truck? What are you

550
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,920
talking about?

551
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:08,279
Speaker 7: Dude?

552
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:08,799
Speaker 3: Nah?

553
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,559
Speaker 6: Man, and like that, don't look, don't acknowledge, like just

554
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,680
stare straight and get the fuck out of there.

555
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: And then I'm like, man, that's yeah, that's wild.

556
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,279
Speaker 6: Like he knew, he knew, and he had to keep

557
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,400
cool to keep my dad cool because I would imagine

558
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
being a young kid like I've lost my shit.

559
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:25,319
Speaker 5: I have lost my shit.

560
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,279
Speaker 3: Definitely. Oh goodness.

561
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: Dad's kind of a tough guy. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

562
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,799
oh yeah.

563
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 8: But uh.

564
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,119
Speaker 3: One of my favorites that's not within our family, but

565
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:40,960
you know, with some of our friends, is your close

566
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,839
personal friend with Thesia. And I love her story so

567
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,960
much because I mean it's fucking hilarious and relatable as shit,

568
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,799
but also the way she describes what happens. So I

569
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,920
don't want to ruin anything, So let's let's get to

570
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,599
it and I'll talk about it.

571
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 10: It's it's crazy and it's funny at the same time

572
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,440
because my crazy and shitty and this is this is

573
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,839
like she straight up a big sister man, because like

574
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000
she did me so dirty. But we used to have

575
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,640
a deck in the back of our house, or there's

576
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,000
a deck in the back of the house and everybody

577
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,920
would go out there in the summer, like hang out,

578
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,680
barbecues and stuff. And one night, me and my sister

579
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,359
were outside and we're playing monopoly and there was a tree.

580
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,559
There's a tree that hangs over the side of the deck.

581
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,839
It's a pretty sturdy tree, you know, a kind of

582
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,839
high and we're playing monopoly. We swear to God, a

583
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,960
latusa landed in the tree, this whole freaking tree, like

584
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,759
everything just something lands on it so big that it

585
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,319
comes down and you just hear it hit the side

586
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:42,799
of the deck and it was like whoosh, and you

587
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,279
just hear every limb everything hit and then it went

588
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,319
back up. My sister got up, ran into the and

589
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,720
like ram past the tree and ran into the kitchen

590
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:53,720
and I'm like behind her, right, because I always run

591
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:56,960
slower than everybody else, I'm behind her. She slams the

592
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
screen door at me and will not let me in

593
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,799
high and I'm like, let me inside, let me inside,

594
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:04,039
you know, like there's there about you in the tree,

595
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,720
and she goes, no, go get the monopoly game first,

596
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:09,639
and I'll let you inside.

597
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: And I start crying.

598
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:19,119
Speaker 5: Man, I'm like, let me inside.

599
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I love Letsia.

600
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,199
Speaker 6: She's so colorful, so bright, so funny, and the way

601
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,400
she tells that story about things point is so relatable,

602
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,559
Like we have an older sister.

603
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:31,599
Speaker 5: I'm an older sister.

604
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 6: I know I've done fucked up shit to have ady

605
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,159
sistern uh. So I think it's great to hear the trauma.

606
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,239
But also to the point you made before. It aligns

607
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,039
with some previous experiences with.

608
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: With dads with that tree coming down, like the way

609
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,280
she talks about how the weight or like how heavy

610
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:53,559
big that bird was that that tree just you know,

611
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,400
and then and and dad had told us very similar stuff.

612
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,079
So I love that. I love that so much. The

613
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,320
synchronous cities, the synchronicities are what we live for.

614
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it makes it so good and

615
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,280
there is one more from a group that we've worked

616
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,719
with in the past out of San Antonio.

617
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,039
Speaker 5: We have let's Chat pair of normal.

618
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,519
Speaker 6: Just such a fun group of people to talk to,

619
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,679
and we had some really good conversations about La la

620
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,719
Chusa and one of their experiences.

621
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,679
Speaker 5: So enjoy.

622
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,559
Speaker 11: So truth be told, we actually believe that my boy

623
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:29,639
is being stalked by a latusa.

624
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,079
Speaker 3: Oh shit about that?

625
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,119
Speaker 11: So okay. So one thing to understand is he's three, right,

626
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:38,000
so his vocabulary is really well developed, but not you know,

627
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,840
of course, like an adult. Right. So for the longest time,

628
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,440
he's been actually dreaming of a giant duck. Right, And

629
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,440
I know that may be very misleading, but he's been

630
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,320
dreaming about a damn giant duck that likes to pull

631
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,960
on his leg on his bed, right, And that has

632
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,840
gone on for a good while. And he had always

633
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,079
been telling me about this nightmare, about this damn duck

634
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,119
pulling on his leg, trying to get him on that. Well,

635
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,719
recently about I don't know, like a month ago maybe

636
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,440
or a month and a half ago, he wakes up

637
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,320
and we get ready for school, and he comes up

638
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,719
to me and he said, we need flashlights and I

639
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,320
was like, why do we need flashlight then, and he

640
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320
tells me, well, it's dark outside and I was like, well, yeah,

641
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440
of course it's night time. And then he says, yeah,

642
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,760
so I could see the bird outside and I was

643
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,159
like what, and he told me he was there was

644
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,519
a giant bird outside and I see him, but I

645
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,159
need flashlight right, like a lot of those lines, and

646
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:34,440
I was like okay, and then he stops and he

647
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:37,320
tells me. He says, he told me to come outside,

648
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,039
and it just it blew my mind and I asked him.

649
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:41,880
I was like, son, are you sure you saw.

650
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: A bird or was it a man?

651
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 11: Because you know, parent mode kicks in and I'm trying

652
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:48,719
to figure out what's going on. And he says, no, God,

653
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,440
this big bird. It flap its wings and then they

654
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,280
fly away, and I was like, what the fuck? Like

655
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,199
I let you say it's trying to get my kids.

656
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: Funny. They're so fucking funny. I love it so much.

657
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,000
And it's just so interesting though that I don't know

658
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,039
because because we don't have kids or anything, so it's

659
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:12,440
so I don't want to say fun but like, I

660
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,440
don't know cool, I don't know. It's interesting to hear

661
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,400
a story of someone in modern times, yes, who has

662
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,239
a child who it feels that they are being lured,

663
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,800
you know, like it's so interesting when he was like,

664
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,039
it's a duck, you know, like this kid sees a

665
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,800
duck and it's like, oh, like, oh, I'm getting chills

666
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,559
right now anyways, you know, and it's like he's explaining

667
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:39,159
it as a duck, but it could very well be

668
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:41,599
a white outl or maybe it is a duck. Who

669
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:45,280
fucking knows she's a shape shifter, you know, So I

670
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,480
don't know. That story is just so crazy to me

671
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,599
and wild to me because it is so on point

672
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,719
with everything we've heard about her.

673
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I love it. I love it.

674
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: And yeah.

675
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,679
Speaker 6: So those are really most of the stories that we've

676
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,480
collect did throughout our episodes that we wanted to really

677
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,880
put together for you guys to enhance.

678
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:09,679
Speaker 5: The let you say experience. Yeah, but I mean, is

679
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,280
there ours?

680
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I was just gonna Cybi sister. You know, it's

681
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,840
so great because you know, these these stories, what we

682
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,440
have given you up to this point has been our

683
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,960
public presentation. We have done this a few times. It's

684
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,719
online and you can find this right us doing this

685
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,159
this exact thing. But I'm so excited to do this

686
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,639
here now for the show and record it for the show,

687
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,519
because now we're going to give you our experiences. We're

688
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,519
going to tell you some stories that we have yet

689
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:44,920
to release to the world, and you're fucking welcome.

690
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I love this.

691
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,679
Speaker 6: I'm very excited and one of the ones that I'm

692
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,920
going to share with you guys. And Bethany mentioned this

693
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,199
early on. We grew up hearing stories from both our

694
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,599
dad's side our mom's side, and you got to hear

695
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:58,320
it from our dad. So I'm going to do the

696
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,559
honor of sharing what our mom did. Told us her experience.

697
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 5: Was with La Lachusa.

698
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 6: And so for those of y'all were we grew up Eastside,

699
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,639
so did our parents, and our mom was hanging out

700
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,199
at her aunt's house and as a young girl hanging out.

701
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:16,599
Speaker 3: Over the weekend.

702
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 6: I don't know the exact circumstances, but point is, all

703
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,639
night there was a bird crying out in the front yard, crying, crying, crying,

704
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,360
keeping everybody awake, and it got to the point where

705
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,000
her uncle went outside and told the bird to shut

706
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:35,599
the fuck up or I'm gonna shoot you, and bird

707
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,360
goes silent, no more noise from the bird the rest

708
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,920
of the night. Cut to the next morning. Everyone's awake

709
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480
in the house. There's a knock at the front door,

710
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:48,920
and a young woman is standing there with a very

711
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,599
young child in her hands, and she says to my uncle,

712
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,239
thank you so much for not shooting me last night,

713
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:58,480
and goes away and walks away.

714
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,559
Speaker 5: And that blew our mind.

715
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: Like the story was literally told to us just like that.

716
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:09,800
Not a lot of detail, just very much.

717
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 5: This is what happened.

718
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,119
Speaker 6: He yelled at the bird, said I'm going to shoot

719
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,360
you next morning. Woman at the door saying thank you

720
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000
for not shooting me, making it.

721
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 3: Very clear that she was a bird the night before,

722
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:24,960
just right there, La lechoo.

723
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 6: So write if she is that shape shifter, maybe she

724
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,559
was crying out in pain giving birth, like who what

725
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,599
was happening in that moment, But for her to walk

726
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,320
up with a young child in her hands and say

727
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,039
thank you, that's a big fucking deal. And if this

728
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,480
did in fact take place, now you got to think,

729
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,840
holy shit, l I let you say shape shift back

730
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,639
into human form to go acknowledge and be thankful that

731
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,239
her life was not taken that night by our uncle.

732
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,159
And I just think that that's so mind blowing that

733
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,280
our mom sat in that house and experienced that and

734
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
saw that firsthand just always blew my mind.

735
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that story stuck with me too. I remember I

736
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,920
don't know how old I was, but like I remember

737
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,920
hearing it in just the imagery, like I saw it

738
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:14,159
in my mind like this woman, you know, going up

739
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,800
to the door with the baby, and like I saw it,

740
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,639
like it just really fucking that shit stuck with me. Man,

741
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:24,039
that was a really impactful one. And again, like sometimes

742
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,679
the most impactful things are the most simplistic. Oh you know,

743
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,840
it's not a big story, you know, but it is.

744
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,119
Speaker 5: Just like like mind blowing. Yeah yeah, Keanu wo.

745
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 6: Yeah man, because then you got to sit there and

746
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,880
like try to piece it all together, and it's like

747
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,480
it made such an impact that we heard about it

748
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,440
later in her life, Like it definitely left an impression

749
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,760
and it did it did it to us.

750
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 5: So very very cool story.

751
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,599
Speaker 6: Yes, So another one that I want to share, and

752
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,800
I think it's just really cool again, really sure, but

753
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,840
also impactful. And I don't know if Bethany you'll recall

754
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,880
this one, but our neighbor across the street. Robert share

755
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,679
her first name. He I can remember him saying or

756
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,000
telling the story that one night there was an owl

757
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:10,119
on his shed and the owl was making a lot

758
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:15,639
of noise and wouldn't go away. So Robert thinking, oh, fuck,

759
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:19,039
this is La Lachusa. He started cussing at the bird.

760
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,239
And we'll talk a little bit about that a little

761
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,800
bit later. But he's cussing at the bird. He's telling

762
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,280
it to, you know, get the fuck out of there,

763
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:29,159
and he got really aggressive towards the bird, and then

764
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,480
the owl eventually did fly away and take off.

765
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:34,559
Speaker 5: But I can remember him telling us that story.

766
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 6: I can't remember like standing in the middle of the

767
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,239
street and we're all just kind of hearing the story,

768
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,639
and he's like, oh, yeah, I was cussing at that

769
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,880
damn bird, you know, ha ha ha la Usa, And

770
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:44,800
like I was like what, that's so crazy.

771
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: Again.

772
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 6: It happened so quickly, and it was so like short,

773
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:53,280
but also impactful to me because as as I got

774
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,119
older and learned more, I'm like, holy shit, maybe that was,

775
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,320
in fact another experience with La Lachusa. I mean, it

776
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,519
could have just been a and he could be you know,

777
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:02,599
exaggerating the story.

778
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:04,039
Speaker 3: But I always thought that was really cool.

779
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,559
Speaker 6: So even just right across the street from where we

780
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,239
grew up, uh experience.

781
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,079
Speaker 5: With all that she stuff potentially.

782
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really remember that one fully, but it

783
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,039
sounds familiar, you know what I mean.

784
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 5: I think I was just too young. I don't know

785
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:20,039
that's fair. Why don't you tell us one? You do remember?

786
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,519
Speaker 3: So one night a couple of years ago, me and

787
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,480
Leah were, you know, driving around the old neighborhood. We

788
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,000
were in East Austin, like kind of circling our old haunts. Yeah,

789
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:35,119
you know, like the Banalas areas and stuff, you know.

790
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,239
And we used to go to this swimming pool called

791
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,559
Mets swimming Pool. And if you're an Unsolved Mysteries fan,

792
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:53,239
Mets Elementary was on those old mysteries and our dad

793
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,679
back in the in the day used to live on

794
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,880
in that in that general area. So we kind of

795
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,000
were just cruising. We were cruising through Mets. We were

796
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,760
cruising through the hood. And one of those the Mets

797
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,400
swimming pool that we used to hang at, right, it

798
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,079
was the swim So we used to swim at the

799
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,360
Swamp community pool all the time when we were kids,

800
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:14,039
and so we're getting how we're driving around, we're excited

801
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,039
and we see that the sprinklers or whatever on.

802
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 5: So it's not really sprinklers.

803
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: What a water path. It's a water it's like a

804
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,519
little mini water park, you know. It's like a little

805
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:27,119
there's like a daisy that drips water and like weird

806
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,639
architectural you know, structures that spout waters so kids can

807
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,360
run through it on hot days and stuff. And it

808
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,800
was a hot summer night and this water is on

809
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
and we are so excited and giddy because we're like,

810
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,280
oh fuck, let's go be big kids, like little kids.

811
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,519
Speaker 11: You know.

812
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,159
Speaker 3: It's again what it had to be? What time was it?

813
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:46,719
It was late?

814
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I think it was roughly like around I

815
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,559
mean like late enough, like ten thirty ish eleven ish,

816
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:56,079
made like around that time frame. Yeah, yeah, okay, So

817
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:59,440
we're it's late, you know, creeping up watching hour.

818
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: And when we take off her shoes and we're running

819
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,119
every skittle it diddle it deadline around splitch splashing about

820
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:12,159
and giggling and having a good time, and then we

821
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,280
heard a scream right, yes, yes, it was a woman

822
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:23,480
yelling like a ah, And we like look at each

823
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:26,679
other like just stopped dead in our fucking tracks, And

824
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,280
I think, too, what I want to call out?

825
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,599
Speaker 6: So Bethany told you we're at the met swimming pool.

826
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Roughly a city block away is Lake Austin Town Lake.

827
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,960
So we're by this huge body of water in East Austin.

828
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: In a haunted fucking area.

829
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 6: Splitch splashing and then yeah, we hear hey, hey, and

830
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,039
it kind of sounded to me like it was coming

831
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,519
from the lake area, so kind of like behind us almost,

832
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,920
And I was like, so we stopped dead in our

833
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,440
fucking tracks. We can look at each other, like we

834
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:57,960
mentioned earlier, like we're like, okay, we gotta fucking go,

835
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:02,199
because I didn't see anybody, couldn't see anybody yelling, and

836
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,119
it was like they were but I felt like they

837
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:07,480
were yelling at us, like they could see us, but

838
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:08,800
we could not see them.

839
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: I know, I'm getting chills about it because.

840
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:13,639
Speaker 6: We again just dead in our tracks, like fog Okay,

841
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,440
I'm thinking, fuck, I'm barefoot the cars over there, what

842
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,719
the fuck are we gonna do? And I think like

843
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,960
just in a second, we're like geared up and like

844
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:28,280
bolted out of there. But what Bethany did not see

845
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:31,880
and what I called out, because I Bethany's running before me.

846
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: She's gone, and I'm like, that's great.

847
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,599
Speaker 3: She's my baby sister. I gotta make sure she's protected.

848
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 5: She's gone. I'm like, get into the car.

849
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,599
Speaker 6: I look back, y'all and on top, like the only

850
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,679
light source we had was like a street light. I

851
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,239
look up at the street light and there is a

852
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,039
big white owl sitting on the top of the street

853
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,119
light looking at us, and like, I'm getting chills now,

854
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,079
telling y'all, Bethany did not see this. I get in

855
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,119
the car behind Bethany and I'm.

856
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 5: Like, this, fuck, let use bru it was a fucking owl.

857
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,559
Speaker 3: Out there staring at us from roughly where the screams

858
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:13,199
were coming from. Because I look back and look up

859
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,400
and there there's the fucking owl and like I'm covered

860
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
in goosey too right now, like and we're in the.

861
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,079
Speaker 5: Car, like, oh my god, oh, I.

862
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,119
Speaker 6: Like freaking the fuck out because it like what else

863
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,360
could it have been? Like it didn't make any other sense,

864
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:31,639
like this scream, this bird, that location us being dumbasses

865
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,800
in the middle of the night, partying.

866
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: Doing shit we shouldn't have been doing, like Dad said,

867
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:43,239
and boom la La Choose. Yeah, I yeah, I did

868
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,360
not see the bird. And when she told me that,

869
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:48,320
I was like what the fuck, you know, like, I

870
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,880
was like what, like are you serious? Like what and

871
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:56,079
like like she said, it came from behind us, and

872
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:59,840
I heard it sounded like a fucking woman.

873
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was for sure a woman.

874
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: Woman screaming. And you're right, I didn't even think about

875
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,599
it until you said it right now that we were

876
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,000
like right by the lake, you know, and you know,

877
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,760
yeah we were out late at night. You know, maybe

878
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,599
we shouldn't have been there, but we weren't doing anything

879
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,519
bad in particular. So for me, again, my personal belief

880
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,920
here is that maybe she was warning us to get gone,

881
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,880
you know, maybe something was going to happen. Maybe there

882
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,280
was a bad person over there, like you never know,

883
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,679
we lived, Yeah, we weren't.

884
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 5: Protected, and she protected us. And that's what I would like.

885
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: To believe, you know, because although within our family and

886
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,639
friend circles, like, we do have some stories of her

887
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,800
that are pretty chilling and messed up. But on the

888
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,639
other hand, we have some stories where she is compassionate

889
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,199
and kind and thankful. And here in our experience it

890
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,800
was terrifying because we have this system of beliefs. Yeah,

891
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,599
you know, ingrained in us, and but she didn't attack us.

892
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:10,960
I mean I didn't even see her. Yeah, no, that's true.

893
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:14,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that's you're uh speaking out your views

894
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:15,920
of it. Yeah, I can agree with that, like maybe

895
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,760
some shit was just gonna go down or you know,

896
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400
to your point, somebody negative in the area. We had

897
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,320
to get ourselves out of that because yeah, it got

898
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,519
our attention and it got us the fuck out of there,

899
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,840
and we were not harmed. Like the bird didn't fly

900
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,199
towards us. Bird just sat there, stared at us, and

901
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,639
we got the fuck.

902
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,639
Speaker 3: Out of there. Yeah.

903
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 6: So oh now when you say like that, maybe not,

904
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,400
it still was fucking horrific. I still get chills thinking

905
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:41,840
about it.

906
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: That's nice. I thinks, thanks, I let you so.

907
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 8: Well.

908
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: And I say this because you know, we have done

909
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,960
this presentation a handful of times. I'm constantly like double checking,

910
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,159
like my, my, you know, quote facts. You know, we're

911
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,519
like double checking you know, the information that I get,

912
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:04,400
and so I'm always rereading the same shit or like

913
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,880
you know, and the idea that it is a cautionary

914
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,239
tale makes me feel like, okay, well, I'm not a sinner.

915
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,280
I'm not doing something bad or like, you know, I'm

916
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,719
not a drunk, I'm not a cheat. So maybe she

917
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,480
is on my side, you know, because she was. She

918
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,360
was the one that was wrong. You know, I would

919
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,400
consider myself maybe not a Bruja or courandetto. But I

920
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,480
think we are magic, you know. I think that we

921
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:30,760
have just ancestral magics.

922
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:31,159
Speaker 4: You know.

923
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,039
Speaker 3: I think we're spiritual enough people, and I think she

924
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:37,679
may be our people. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm

925
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:39,400
just talking on my bud. I don't know. I like

926
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:45,920
it all. I like it. You got a smart book.

927
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:51,480
But now that we've told you some stories about her,

928
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,920
how in the world do you protect yourself from her

929
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
if you don't want her around? Like, what do you do?

930
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,599
You know? Like, of course, you know in our little scenario,

931
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,280
it was so quick, you know, we ran, you know,

932
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,239
we were fine. But like, if you feel threatened, if

933
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,079
you feel like she's on a deck, Yes, what do

934
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:13,440
you do?

935
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 11: Man?

936
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:18,679
Speaker 6: You can start with a simple prayer, just say chief,

937
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:23,239
check me out, protect your child, and keep me safe

938
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,519
from the lachusa. But no, really braying it's more powerful,

939
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,840
it said again just kind of because women respect women

940
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,880
it's more powerful to use the prayer to the Virgin

941
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Mary lavin versus gesture everyday kind of prayer. So if

942
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,920
you wanted to set it back up and respect, you

943
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,719
lean into that Virgin Mary prayer.

944
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I love that, you know they

945
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:52,119
say to use the Virgin Mary because again, yeah, it's.

946
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 5: Just like lady, yes, no, man tells me whoa baby?

947
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,119
Mean it?

948
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 3: I got she knows what she's talking about. I'll I'll

949
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,199
see it later on Friday, call me.

950
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 8: Alday mad as fun okay, bothered.

951
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: Another thing on like the spiritual level, and something I

952
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,239
found interesting was you could do preventative.

953
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 7: Care.

954
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: You could tie a rope with seven knots and hang

955
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,159
it on your door, and that is said to keep

956
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:45,840
her away, and and and again. Like with numerology, the

957
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,920
number seven is always coming up as a sacred number,

958
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,360
you know. So I think it's so interesting that it

959
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,880
is particularly it is particularly seven knots they have to put.

960
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:59,039
So let's say you throw that rope out, you know,

961
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:02,599
on your door, and she's flying around and she's like,

962
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,519
oh am, I gonna snatch up today, and she's like

963
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:11,599
I see that rope peace. You know, She's like you

964
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:16,079
acknowledge me, Oh, acknowledge you? Yeah, you know, so they say,

965
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,239
or like the sources that we got this from say that,

966
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,320
like this is supposed to be a sign of like respect,

967
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,519
like I understand that you exist, please stay away from me.

968
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 6: I like it too, because it also made me think

969
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,360
of and I don't know the exact legend of folklore,

970
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,519
but it's like if you leave a broom outside, like

971
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,079
the witch or the cryptid or whatever we're talking about

972
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,719
in that version, it can't come in until it counts

973
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:41,760
all the broom bristles or whatever the case is. And

974
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,480
I thought that too. So even if she does pick

975
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,880
your house, Like, how difficult is it gonna be for

976
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,199
a bird to unravel?

977
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's gonna take some time, you know.

978
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,679
Speaker 6: So I also thought about that too, like you hear

979
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,920
these types of things and they just take different shapes

980
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,559
and forms and different symbols depending on culture, location and

981
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:03,880
all those good things.

982
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 5: Because it did make me.

983
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,119
Speaker 6: Think instantly of oh, and you'll see it now too,

984
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,199
like put your broomstick up over your door and it'll

985
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:11,800
catch all that bad energy or sweep it out and

986
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,320
things like that. So I think that was really cool

987
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,480
and something that popped in mind, and I think for

988
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:20,079
me too another way, what to do when you're faced

989
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:21,760
with the litue. So one of my favorites is to

990
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,079
cuss and just.

991
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: And I kind of mentioned it was Robert's story, like

992
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,000
get the fuck out of here, you fucking bird, Like.

993
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:31,559
Speaker 5: Just really be super disrespectful.

994
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 12: Just really let her have it words that maybe make

995
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,480
you blush, you know, just really lean into it and

996
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:40,679
fucking cuss her the fuck out, and uh, it could

997
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:44,519
be therapeutic and also protect your life, but it could

998
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:45,400
also piss her off.

999
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, might so maybe be mindful.

1000
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it is funny and

1001
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:54,559
interesting because again, like we've heard not just from Robert,

1002
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:57,159
but so many other stories where people were like, just

1003
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:00,239
cuss it out. Some people even say cussing her around

1004
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,559
in Spanish in particular is even more powerful Spanish.

1005
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 6: But yees, so I think I think that's good too,

1006
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,920
like being able to write the Spanish piece. And I've

1007
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,360
even heard like telling her specifically to go back to

1008
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
Hell or saying something.

1009
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:16,559
Speaker 5: Like go to Hell, and like like.

1010
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 6: Damning her to a specific place will also help, you know,

1011
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:23,320
keep keep her back.

1012
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, well, yeah, she probably thinks that's

1013
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,719
fucking rude.

1014
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: Don't deal with it.

1015
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 5: Back from once you came to the files of Hell.

1016
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,039
Speaker 3: I'm such a douy. I fuck up and be like.

1017
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:37,119
Speaker 5: To the files Mountain.

1018
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: Not a place there. But one of my favorites is

1019
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960
is when Leah talks about this one. But I'll set

1020
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,320
her up for it. Oh gosh, salt and chili powder friends.

1021
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so it is said that you can use

1022
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,400
salt and chili powder. And I like to say to

1023
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,000
our Latino listeners out there, we already know we carry

1024
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,119
around our little tiens.

1025
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: So as long as you keep your little thihen's on hand,

1026
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:20,760
you should be able to.

1027
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 5: Ward off us.

1028
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,679
Speaker 3: And then after something like that, go use that thien in.

1029
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 6: You know you're gonna use it for But look at

1030
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,280
that thahen cells should go.

1031
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 3: Through the roof suonsor us.

1032
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 5: I love it.

1033
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,199
Speaker 3: I love it so much because I really do have

1034
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,199
little tiens. We do, we do. But and I love

1035
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,719
it because you know, they say throw it at it,

1036
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,920
but it's like, yeah, if anybody throws salt and chili

1037
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,519
powder out you at you, at anyone, that fucking sucks,

1038
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,920
you know, it's like, ah my eyes ah it burn

1039
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,559
it burns. But I also love the salt aspect because,

1040
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:02,280
as you know, you know, salt is consistently used across

1041
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:08,360
the board as a protection mineral. Yeah, as a protection

1042
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,800
crystal mineral. We see it. We see it an incredible

1043
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:20,559
and important, uh scholarly works such as hocus Pocus and

1044
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:24,800
Supernatural and Supernatural those guys go through salt like no

1045
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,760
one's fucking yes that rock salt.

1046
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,719
Speaker 5: Like damn, they must have like a costco.

1047
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: Membership to stay up on the amount of salt they

1048
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,519
fucking need in that show.

1049
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 5: I love it though, so salty, salty, supernatural, but I

1050
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:42,000
do love that.

1051
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:44,519
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, salt is definitely a protector. People

1052
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:46,679
say to put it on your windowsills, like draw a

1053
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:49,800
line with it across your door, like it's something that

1054
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,199
is going to cleanse out bad spirits and keep you protected.

1055
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,159
So just an extra, you know, reason to carry around

1056
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:01,960
some tang or something, little beer so you never know

1057
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,119
when you're gonna need it. You know you got a

1058
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:08,039
fruit cup, you know you got some kukovesa.

1059
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,599
Speaker 6: Oh you're ready ready, you ready to stay ready? You

1060
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:20,719
don't got to get ready if you stay ready. Man,

1061
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,000
you guys, like we we really enjoy and like to

1062
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:25,440
Bethany's point, we've done this live a couple of times,

1063
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,719
but it was really exciting to come here and share

1064
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,880
with y' all little bit bits that we haven't shared before.

1065
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:33,960
But I mean, you know, that's the history, that's how

1066
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,360
she haunts. Those are some of the stories. Uh, and

1067
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,599
before we you know, cleanse it because you know, we

1068
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:44,320
got to we really want to share. And Bethany is

1069
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,280
going to dive into why we really love talking about

1070
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:47,960
Lalla Tusa.

1071
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,159
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1072
00:58:49,559 --> 00:58:56,719
Speaker 3: So I really sat with this because sometimes I have

1073
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,519
big thoughts and they're hard to get out to write

1074
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:05,760
it down, and after spending so much time with la Letusa,

1075
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:12,199
this is what I feel. This is my personal analysis.

1076
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:17,159
I find it interesting that women are often demonized in

1077
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:21,880
our legends, and even the girl who dances with the devil.

1078
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,119
There were all wronged in some way, typically by a man,

1079
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,239
but sometimes by society itself. Throughout much of history, women

1080
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,679
haven't had access to means of retribution when they're wrong,

1081
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:37,519
so in order to get justice for themselves, they've had

1082
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:41,880
to take it for themselves. Women have to be smart, creative,

1083
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,760
and ruthless. Instead of celebrating this, these stories turn a

1084
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:52,559
wronged woman seeking justice into a terrifying monster, demonizing them,

1085
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:57,880
and in that way reapply the suppression to these women

1086
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:02,719
by turning them into a negative arca type. I think

1087
01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:05,199
that by now you have noticed that I love the Choose.

1088
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:09,760
Loma Choos is a bad fucking bitch. I love her.

1089
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,280
I think she's misunderstood, but even fucking so, regardless of

1090
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,599
like my personal belief about her. If I fucking hear

1091
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:28,400
that whistle, I'm not whistling back, and that's just that. Yes, respect, respect, son, respect,

1092
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:29,280
I love it.

1093
01:00:29,639 --> 01:00:32,039
Speaker 5: I agree. Beautifully done.

1094
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 7: Wow.

1095
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,559
Speaker 3: Wow, even after something is so profound, it's so real,

1096
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,440
I think we still need to cleanse. Let's do a

1097
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:49,840
big sister, omni regair, soum omni regair.

1098
01:00:50,639 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 13: So take a big deep breath and.

1099
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 5: Release that mother's account.

1100
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 8: You are.

1101
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 5: Whoa man?

1102
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: That feels good.

1103
01:01:19,519 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 5: We do get we dog, we're dead.

1104
01:01:21,639 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: In aora, We're all.

1105
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 6: But uh, I'm very excited. I feel good. It was

1106
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:35,679
nice talking about our favorite little witch.

1107
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much everyone for indulging us, especially me,

1108
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,960
big sister, thank you for letting me get my nerd on.

1109
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:46,679
It's always so much fun to talk about the things

1110
01:01:46,679 --> 01:01:49,400
we love. So much, and we really appreciate if you

1111
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,280
hung out with us today, and we hope that you

1112
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,000
come back.

1113
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 5: For more of these fucking.

1114
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 3: But until then, you know what I'm not today, the

1115
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:05,880
goodness because I love me Leia, and we're signing out

1116
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:27,599
for two mositos from these body thos. Thank