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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we are get off our show, idiot, The kids

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<v Speaker 2>are crying or turn off.

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<v Speaker 3>The countries are.

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<v Speaker 2>Screwing it up. Gold Play Intermurals, Brother, gold Play Intermurals.

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<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, three o'clock on a Wednesday afternoon. Let's get

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<v Speaker 5>it started, ladies and gentlemen. Let's do it, shall we?

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<v Speaker 5>Coffee and Company fuel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 5>seven ninety. Nick Coffee. That's me the company man. That

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<v Speaker 5>is the one and only mister John Alden. As we

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<v Speaker 5>take you up until six o'clock, take us with you

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<v Speaker 5>wherever you go, whatever you're doing, whatever you have planned,

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<v Speaker 5>or maybe you don't even know what you have planned,

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<v Speaker 5>because you just kind of, you know, let things happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Just know, whatever it is you're doing, you can take

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<v Speaker 5>us with you and you can listen live on the

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<v Speaker 5>iHeartRadio app. Also listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot

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<v Speaker 5>Com and today's going to be a fun show. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to speak it into existence. I'm going to believe

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<v Speaker 5>in the power of positivity. But I will tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that I come to you today for the first time

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty seven days where I arrived here to the

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<v Speaker 5>iHeart Studios at four Street Live in downtown Louisville in

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<v Speaker 5>my twenty nineteen Volkswagen antlys. What a day to have

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<v Speaker 5>that back John's I mean, you'd have thought I just

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<v Speaker 5>told John some like big news and I wanted that reaction.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean again, it wasn't anything he said. It was

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<v Speaker 5>his face, like you're happy I got my car back,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, And that another one of the many signs

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen over the years that lets me know John's

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<v Speaker 5>a good friend, because he's seen in a way more so, like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I kind of stopped talking about the whole

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<v Speaker 5>car situation because it didn't help me, and it probably,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it probably wasn't great for the show, although people,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there wasn't much more I could say, like

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<v Speaker 5>the story kind of you know, it'd run its course.

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<v Speaker 3>You got, you know, speaking in.

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<v Speaker 5>Third person here, like I got railed by AutoZone and

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<v Speaker 5>like that was the story, and you know, whatever happens happens,

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<v Speaker 5>but like there wasn't a whole lot more to add.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything new would just be honestly a bad thing for

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<v Speaker 5>me to even bring up because it would take me

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere mentally I didn't want to be. And honestly, I

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<v Speaker 5>think towards the end you'll probably didn't believe some of

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<v Speaker 5>the things I was saying, not not even a kidding,

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<v Speaker 5>Like the way this whole thing played out, like you

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<v Speaker 5>could make it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very odd how it seemed like anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>would talk about something that would be like the invitation

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<v Speaker 1>for something new to happen after the fact.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, And that's why I stopped talking about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I've had people who, like I know personally,

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<v Speaker 5>like even my family, like how about your car?

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<v Speaker 3>Or wait a second, you still don't have your car?

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<v Speaker 5>And I think, and I need to do better at

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<v Speaker 5>this because it's just peopple who are not nosy or

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<v Speaker 5>being you know, in my business.

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<v Speaker 3>They care about me.

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<v Speaker 5>They're people that I know and love, but they you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I probably respond to them to where they're thinking of themselves. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really really bummed for Nick that he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 5>his car, but I know I'm never gonna ask him

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<v Speaker 5>again because it just turns into where like I just

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he wasn't a good experience. So I went

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<v Speaker 5>to AutoZone, I bought a battery for my car, paid

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<v Speaker 5>over two hundred dollars, and for twenty seven days I

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<v Speaker 5>did not have a vehicle because I didn't have my vehicle,

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<v Speaker 5>I should say, because they damaged it. And that's how

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<v Speaker 5>long the whole process took. So I am happy to

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<v Speaker 5>have it back, but I still have such a terrible

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<v Speaker 5>feeling in my gut that I can't shake, and thinking

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<v Speaker 5>about it still puts me in a bad place mentally,

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<v Speaker 5>and I need somebody to help me get over it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not the end of the world. I

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<v Speaker 5>have problems that are insanely small, tiny, or really not

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<v Speaker 5>even even legitimate problems compared to what other people deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>So I never want to do the poor me thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's human nature for anybody to have

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<v Speaker 5>dealt with what I've dealt with attos, with autos owned

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<v Speaker 5>to feel like this is like I've been screwed, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And it happens right like we get bad breaks in

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<v Speaker 5>life every now and then I still wake up every

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<v Speaker 5>day realizing that I've had way more good breaks go

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<v Speaker 5>my way than the other way around. And even if

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<v Speaker 5>that ever wasn't the case, I wouldn't I would try

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<v Speaker 5>to to live in a way where I think like that,

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<v Speaker 5>just because who wants to feel sorry for themselves?

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<v Speaker 3>Who wants to be a victim?

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<v Speaker 5>That's no way to live, even if you have legitimate

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<v Speaker 5>reasons to feel that way. That's not a fun you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I just and I've always really, you know, I've never

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<v Speaker 5>been one to give advice to anybody, because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I'm worthy of giving advice to many people.

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<v Speaker 5>But the best advice I've ever been given that I

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<v Speaker 5>have always tried to really kind of not making my personality,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know, just live by it, and that is

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<v Speaker 5>don't worry yourself about things you can't control. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>where I've towed the line here, like was this in

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<v Speaker 5>my control? Could I should I have been a little

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<v Speaker 5>more forceful with AutoZone? Should I have? I mean, clearly

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<v Speaker 5>the mistake was trusting them, and now I know, but

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<v Speaker 5>like for them to take my money, break my car

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<v Speaker 5>and then give it back to me twenty seven days later.

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<v Speaker 5>And yes, they did cover what it cost to fix

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<v Speaker 5>what they broke, but like they still got up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>they're still up on me when it comes to my Well,

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<v Speaker 5>they got my money. And also you know I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have that car and they didn't care. I mean they were,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they were paying to get it fixed, but

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<v Speaker 5>not in a timely way, not trying to in any

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<v Speaker 5>way even really apologize for inconveniencing me. Inconveniencing me the

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<v Speaker 5>only time that I ever got any level of like

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<v Speaker 5>I understand, and it really wasn't like I'm sorry. It

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<v Speaker 5>was like you know, when I would when I would say, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>you broke my car, and nobody's caught to me, like

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<v Speaker 5>I have to call five times to get a response.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand, I understand, but like, no real like apology. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe them paying for getting it fixed. It's like they're

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, and that is the acknowledgment. But I went

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday to and I thought I was getting it back yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>But I've just you know, I told myself after last

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<v Speaker 5>week whenever I think was it last week of the

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<v Speaker 5>week before where I had my final meltdown I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was right.

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<v Speaker 3>Before I took off to go to Charlotte. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I just had a meltdown on the air and

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't planned or anything, and it was really embarrassing

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<v Speaker 5>to be honest with you. But hey, I'm an open book,

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<v Speaker 5>which is you know, I guess not what you see

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<v Speaker 5>is what you get because you don't see me. What

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<v Speaker 5>what you hear, what you hear is what you get,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's and it's really me and this is really

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<v Speaker 5>my life, and not to say that it's all that interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>but I do know that you all can find some

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<v Speaker 5>entertainment here and there by you know, things that go

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<v Speaker 5>on with me, not because you know, I'm just that fascinating,

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<v Speaker 5>but because you know, I think sometimes and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>have it any other way. Got a good life, but

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<v Speaker 5>I think sometimes it's it's a Seinfeld episode. But I

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<v Speaker 5>was just convinced that, like I'm not going to believe

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm ever going to get this car back until

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<v Speaker 5>I have it and I'm driving away. And that was today,

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<v Speaker 5>but I had to go to aut I had to

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<v Speaker 5>go to that auto's own story yesterday morning. And I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't told you this John. But I went yesterday morning.

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<v Speaker 5>It was first time I've gone in there since the

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<v Speaker 5>day that you know, they had to tell my vehicle

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<v Speaker 5>away because they broke it. And again it's like walking

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<v Speaker 5>into a funeral home, like you know, I'm I'm like leaving,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, what do you call it? The like the

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<v Speaker 5>kitchen area of funeral homes where like people like go

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<v Speaker 5>to like you know, yea, they get a snack and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just kind of you know, just relax a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit as best you can, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like when I walked in yesterday morning, I was

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<v Speaker 5>leaving like that break room area where people like eat

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<v Speaker 5>and get snacks, and there were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>that had arrived, but they hadn't seen the person who's

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<v Speaker 5>really mourning the death of something like it just it

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<v Speaker 5>felt awkward. Nobody made eye contact with me. Said Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm here to sign something. So that was at like

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<v Speaker 5>nine o'clock yesterday morning, and I had to sign something

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<v Speaker 5>that that stated that they did in fact, like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>signing that they have paid for the damage.

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<v Speaker 3>That they that they coused. So I called the.

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<v Speaker 5>Dealership and I'm like, hey, they're gonna have me sign something.

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<v Speaker 5>I just before I signed anything, which is essentially giving

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<v Speaker 5>them full Hey your car is fixed, now, are you

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<v Speaker 5>sure everything's good? And the dealership they've you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>feel bad claiming they didn't they did anything wrong because

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<v Speaker 5>they've been great. They gave me a vehicle to borrow

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<v Speaker 5>and they didn't have to do that, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he was pretty apologetic, and I didn't wan him to

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<v Speaker 5>feel bad, but he was like, yeah, we just we

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<v Speaker 5>just completely, we completely didn't look at something that we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't think we needed to look at. But yes, what

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<v Speaker 5>happened was due to the overall root of your issues

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<v Speaker 5>that they tried to put your battery on backwards for

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<v Speaker 5>three hours and it really really fried your car from

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<v Speaker 5>from like an electronic standpoint, And he was like, it's

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<v Speaker 5>on us. We didn't look at it, but we know

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<v Speaker 5>they were able to convince auto's own or at least

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<v Speaker 5>proved to them in some way, like you clearly cause

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<v Speaker 5>this you're not going to be able to like because

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<v Speaker 5>you already came and paid for one repair. You can't

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<v Speaker 5>honestly state that like this was something that was done

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<v Speaker 5>after the fact and I never left with it, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I showed up, turned the car on, didn't work. So

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<v Speaker 5>at that point I left, and I was worried about

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<v Speaker 5>the whole dispute thing. And then finally they did agree

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<v Speaker 5>to pay for it. So then I go yesterday to

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<v Speaker 5>sign something and the manager, who I hadn't seen since

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<v Speaker 5>that happened, and I felt bad for because she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>look me in the eye. She was being polite, but

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<v Speaker 5>she was being kind of awkward because I think she

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<v Speaker 5>genuinely felt bad. And I'm a human. I know that

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<v Speaker 5>nobody intended to break my car, and honestly, the repairs

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<v Speaker 5>and like the process to like make it right. She

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't even have say so, like she doesn't control that,

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<v Speaker 5>so I know that. So I kind of feel bad

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<v Speaker 5>for her because I think she feels bad. And she

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<v Speaker 5>tells me, okay, now that we've got this sign, once

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<v Speaker 5>I wrap up with this customer again, it's nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 5>Well that was at nine am show Stars yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 5>pictures of it, like I documented everything. But I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 5>So I called AutoZone during one over breaks yesterday and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, yeah, she was supposed to go take care

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know she forgot.

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<v Speaker 5>she never called me back. But it's six so three

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday I got a phone call as the service department

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<v Speaker 5>was closing that said your car's ready, They've paid for

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<v Speaker 3>So I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never been in the spot before where I am

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<v Speaker 5>happy to have my vehicle back. And at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of the day, I don't really think it wasn't intentional

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<v Speaker 5>mistakes happened. It was clearly out of my control. But

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<v Speaker 5>I just still feel like I was screwed over.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's just because it went on for

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to take a while to just I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>You're feel like I feel like I got a new car,

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<v Speaker 1>It'll probably take a while for you to get used

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, And and I would be it would be easier

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<v Speaker 5>for me to just kind of block it out if

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't for a few different things. One, I made

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<v Speaker 5>the mistake by making it content, which clearly has turned

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<v Speaker 5>into you know, it occasionally being brought up, although it's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of died down because I haven't talked about it

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<v Speaker 5>as much because again, like the story had run its

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<v Speaker 5>course and if I did talk about it, I would

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<v Speaker 5>I'm never getting my car back, and I have no

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<v Speaker 5>real course of action to like be made whole because

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<v Speaker 5>if they wanted to fight this, and that's what scares me, honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>if they wanted to fight this, they could, what would

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<v Speaker 5>on my platform here, but like they don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>They can obviously I'm not a lawyer, but like, how

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<v Speaker 3>could they win? Well, they would just.

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<v Speaker 5>Make me fight it to the point where even if

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<v Speaker 5>I did in the end get a victory to where

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<v Speaker 5>they had to fix it, I would be out with

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<v Speaker 5>like attorney fees and inconvenience and a lot of my time. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 5>like I mean, I'm trying to and I look, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even know if that's what would have played out

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<v Speaker 5>if they did fight it and say they weren't responsible.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm trying to find a positive here. What I'm like, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>at least they paid to fix it, because they could

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<v Speaker 5>have not.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Would be an insane scenario for them to not try

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<v Speaker 5>to fix it. So but my kids, my kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they care about their Dad, at least I think they do.

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<v Speaker 5>I assume they love me. They tell me they do,

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<v Speaker 5>and they act like they do. But they know about

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<v Speaker 5>the whole car situation, so they're asking, like every day, Dad,

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on with the car? When they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>your car back? What's this car you're driving? I drove

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<v Speaker 5>four different iheard vehicles for two weeks, and then since

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<v Speaker 5>then I've been in a loaner from the from the dealership,

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<v Speaker 5>which had been great, and then they got used to

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<v Speaker 5>that one. They just thought it was Dad's new car.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, when I show up today after work

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<v Speaker 5>and I've got my car, you know, hopefully they're excited

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<v Speaker 5>and happy and they have the new car feeling like

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<v Speaker 5>I do. And then I just never think about it again.

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<v Speaker 5>But I drive past that damn auto zone every day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right everywhere I see it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do this regularly, but sometimes I think about

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<v Speaker 1>giving him the finger.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick, do it, Just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love to just drive past or walk past,

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<v Speaker 1>or they'd have no clue who I am or why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 5>That, and and it sucks overall. But yesterday I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be like a moment where it was over for

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<v Speaker 5>me where I didn't think about it anymore. But that

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't happened yet. And when I say a moment, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean like when I was there at the store and

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<v Speaker 5>the two people that were you know, at fault, like

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<v Speaker 5>clearly seeing that they feel bad and that they know,

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<v Speaker 5>like they're not disputing that they did anything wrong. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean people make mistakes, you know, so like I'm trying

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<v Speaker 5>to just look at it as hey, you know, this

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<v Speaker 5>is the worst thing that ever happens to me, then

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be okay, which is true. But it's just been

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, like I've never felt so helpless as

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<v Speaker 5>if like I just got I'm just going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to deal, you know. And you know, at the end,

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<v Speaker 5>I got my car back and that's good, but that

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<v Speaker 5>is what happened. Like I quite literally just had to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, what was.

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<v Speaker 3>I going to do? Call the cops?

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<v Speaker 5>Be at the store every day with the employees who

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<v Speaker 5>have no they have no they have no options to

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<v Speaker 5>like help me or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>They just you know shoot me towards the corporate area.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to go with my boss and his boss,

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<v Speaker 5>and they just turned into a whole mess. But been

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<v Speaker 5>a long time and I was thinking on my way

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<v Speaker 5>in today, maybe like just maybe Louisville football was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of not themselves because I didn't have my car. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not one into superstitions, but like they played those two

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<v Speaker 5>bump teams before my car broke, and then since then,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they had a close call against Georgia Tech,

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<v Speaker 5>they lost to in a row bounce back against Virginia.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, I'm trying to find you know, me

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<v Speaker 5>getting the car back instead of you know, worrying about

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<v Speaker 5>the twenty seven days I was without it, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna think, well, hey, now this is this is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>send Louisville season in the right direction at a really

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<v Speaker 5>high rate of speed. I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna happen or not, but I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 5>find ways to, you know, not be so bitter about it.

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<v Speaker 5>What did Rick Partino used to lie to us and

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<v Speaker 5>say get better, not bitter, as he's clearly been the bitter,

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<v Speaker 5>a little bitch about Louisville forever. And I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 5>now because we now know Luke Hancock put it out

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<v Speaker 5>there yesterday that Rick just lied like he's been invited

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<v Speaker 5>back to Louisville many times, not only by his former players,

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<v Speaker 5>but like when they honored the twenty thirteen national championship

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<v Speaker 5>team during Kenny's first year, they asked Rick to come.

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<v Speaker 5>So like he just line about that stuff and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what he does. But anyways, I'm gonna get better and

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<v Speaker 5>not bitter. We got a loaded show today. Couple guys

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<v Speaker 5>gonna join us. At three point thirty. We will talk

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<v Speaker 5>with C. L. Brown from the Courier Journal. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>big fan of cel. I've followed his work over the

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<v Speaker 5>years and think think the world of him. And I

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<v Speaker 5>was gassing him up on radio Row last week in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 5>and he was just like, Hey, why don't you why

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<v Speaker 5>don't you have me on? And I'm like, why do

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<v Speaker 5>you say something? I'd love to have you on. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I just assumed that, you know, he's he's busy, he's

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<v Speaker 5>got stuff to do, but he's he's cranking out some

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<v Speaker 5>really good columns for the CJ. And he's got his

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<v Speaker 5>podcast over there with the Curer Journals. So we'll have

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<v Speaker 5>him on coming up with three talk about a variety

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<v Speaker 5>of things, including some college hoops as well as Louisville

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<v Speaker 5>football because they've got a big game coming up now,

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<v Speaker 5>speaking of college football, We're going to talk at four

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<v Speaker 5>to ten. He doesn't know, but we're calling him at

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<v Speaker 5>four oh five. Like he said four ten, we're calling

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<v Speaker 5>him at four or five. It' Zach Barnett, a football scoop.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll get his thoughts on really the midway point of

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<v Speaker 5>the college football season, and I'm sure he has some

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<v Speaker 5>thoughts on this Louisville Miami matchup. So we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>Four to ten.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm getting I'm getting more and more excited about

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<v Speaker 5>this matchup. I mean, I still can't tell you that

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<v Speaker 5>I have like total confidence. But it's not because like I'm,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, worried that Louisville's just gonna get hammered because

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<v Speaker 5>they're not they're not good enough. I just I want

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<v Speaker 5>him to really to continue to utilize the talent they

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<v Speaker 5>have and stop making critical mistakes. And in a way,

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<v Speaker 5>this kind of feels like Notre Dame week. And I'll

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<v Speaker 5>explain myself here, because it seems like you've got an

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to take advantage of a big opportunity. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, you've got the opportunity to maximize an

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity here with a good opponent that if you beat them,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of value there. Felt like the Notre

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<v Speaker 5>Dame week, right like, even though that they had lost

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<v Speaker 5>to Northern Illinois a couple of weeks prior, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>beating Notre Dame at Notre Dame, like there was a

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<v Speaker 5>lot on the line. And what made that loss and

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<v Speaker 5>still makes it just to head scratcher, is that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think Notre Dame's that special and you had the

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to get a win with real value and you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>You couldn't make it happen. But you also are looking

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<v Speaker 5>at Miami this week kind of like you were looking

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<v Speaker 5>at Notre Dame, and it's it's an opponent that you

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<v Speaker 5>know could just beat you straight up even if you

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<v Speaker 5>play well, because you know they got dudes like you do.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, there's going to be some clear advantages that

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<v Speaker 5>SMU game, that was an opponent that I just thought,

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<v Speaker 5>not think SMU would be able to do what they

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<v Speaker 5>did in Louisville, and maybe we learned that they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to do that against everybody because they've

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<v Speaker 5>reinvented who they are offensively once they made that switch

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<v Speaker 5>to Jennings at quarterback. But you know, we learned the

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<v Speaker 5>hard way that SMU isn't a team that you get

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<v Speaker 5>right with because you are coming off of a tough

422
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<v Speaker 5>loss to Notre Dame where you feel like you did

423
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<v Speaker 5>a whole lot more to lose that game than they

424
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<v Speaker 5>did to win it. But SMU made you pay. He

425
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<v Speaker 5>still had a chance to win. But SMU was impressive.

426
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<v Speaker 5>And again I'll give them credit. They were just better,

427
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<v Speaker 5>didn't I didn't think anything SMU did was fluky as

428
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<v Speaker 5>far as like they got lucky or anything. Now, Louisville

429
00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.880
<v Speaker 5>still made mistakes, but SMU earned a lot of respect

430
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<v Speaker 5>for me that day, which I'm sure there's still appreciative of.

431
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<v Speaker 5>That's what they came here to Louisville Forest to get

432
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<v Speaker 5>Nick Coffe's respect. But either way, you know, that just

433
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<v Speaker 5>kind of felt like, Okay, we'll get right here. After

434
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<v Speaker 5>that lost to Outer Dame and we learned the hard

435
00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.839
<v Speaker 5>way we got beat and then Virginia, I mean, it

436
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<v Speaker 5>was your worst opponent since Jacksonville State. So it was

437
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<v Speaker 5>a game where you could still probably do what you've

438
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<v Speaker 5>done in the previous two weeks and still hold on

439
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<v Speaker 5>to win. And let me tell you what, that's exactly

440
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<v Speaker 5>what happened. We can claim they made improvements and whatnot,

441
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<v Speaker 5>and they did. I guess the defense wasn't wasn't quite

442
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<v Speaker 5>the mess they'd been in previous weeks with the lack

443
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<v Speaker 5>of communication and just looking disorganized. But like, let's be honest,

444
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<v Speaker 5>Louisville still made a lot of big mistakes in that game,

445
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<v Speaker 5>and they needed a late touchdown against for you know,

446
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<v Speaker 5>against a Virginia team that I'm not sure it is

447
00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.519
<v Speaker 5>very good to win. You're happy they won, but like

448
00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.759
<v Speaker 5>I think, if I'm being honest with you, I think

449
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<v Speaker 5>Louisville has kind of played the same way the last

450
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<v Speaker 5>three weeks, meaning that they make mistakes that they should

451
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<v Speaker 5>be able to avoid, and it's put them in situations

452
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<v Speaker 5>to where they're either going to lose to good teams

453
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<v Speaker 5>in SMU and Notre Dame or at least, you know,

454
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<v Speaker 5>better teams than Virginia. So Miami on Saturday noon kickoff

455
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<v Speaker 5>sold out Atmospheres should be great, and again the opportunities

456
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<v Speaker 5>there and I'm hoping that the Jeff Brahm and his

457
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<v Speaker 5>team can take take full advantage. All Right, some other

458
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<v Speaker 5>things we'll get into today. The Louisville basketball team photo.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm very glad that about an hour ago, maybe

460
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<v Speaker 5>it was longer than that. I didn't see it till

461
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<v Speaker 5>about an hour ago that they did post the official

462
00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:21.480
<v Speaker 5>team photo from yesterday's media day, and it looks a

463
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<v Speaker 5>lot better than what we saw from the photo that

464
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<v Speaker 5>was posted by Matt mcgavick yesterday. I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 5>with this. I'm going to defend Matt mcgavick because Matt

466
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<v Speaker 5>mcgavick did exactly what I think many others did, but

467
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<v Speaker 5>for some reason, his photo that he put in a tweet,

468
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<v Speaker 5>it got a quarter of a million views in roughly

469
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<v Speaker 5>twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was just a guy who's doing his job.

471
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<v Speaker 5>He's using the limited time that they're giving the media

472
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<v Speaker 5>members to do the player interviews at media day, and

473
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<v Speaker 5>they're taking their team photos. So he just gets out

474
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<v Speaker 5>his phone when he snaps a pick, he throws it

475
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<v Speaker 5>up on Twitter and he starts interviewing people. Little does

476
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<v Speaker 5>he know that like it. I don't know if you

477
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<v Speaker 5>could have tried to get a worse picture than what

478
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<v Speaker 5>they than what they got and what he got. And

479
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<v Speaker 5>again it was not intentional in any way. I probably

480
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<v Speaker 5>would have deleted it a little bit quicker than he did.

481
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<v Speaker 5>But you know, the picture that's made its rounds, and

482
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<v Speaker 5>I mean it was Louisville kind of going viral on

483
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<v Speaker 5>Twitter and the college basketball world for having a team

484
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<v Speaker 5>that you know, they all, I mean, I'll just say it,

485
00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:34.880
<v Speaker 5>because they weren't expecting their picture to be taken. It

486
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<v Speaker 5>wasn't the proper lighting and the professional photographer that works

487
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<v Speaker 5>for the university in the athletic department. They were just

488
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<v Speaker 5>you know, sitting there, you know, getting ready to be

489
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<v Speaker 5>prompted on what to do, getting ready to have like

490
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<v Speaker 5>the flash set up and all that. I don't know

491
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<v Speaker 5>how the photography works, but it was just somebody who

492
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<v Speaker 5>pulled out their phone and took a picture without anybody

493
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<v Speaker 5>really looking. And they all look like they're very sleepy

494
00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:58.319
<v Speaker 5>or high, depending on which way you want to look

495
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:01.920
<v Speaker 5>at it. Language not great as if they're posing.

496
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<v Speaker 3>You know, they didn't. They weren't posing.

497
00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.799
<v Speaker 5>They were just kind of you know, standing without anybody

498
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<v Speaker 5>realizing that they're gonna get their picture taken. And I

499
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<v Speaker 5>mean it, I hate that it turned into what it

500
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<v Speaker 5>turned into. I'm happy that the U of L Twitter account,

501
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:20.599
<v Speaker 5>whoever's running that, is having some fun with it, because

502
00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.039
<v Speaker 5>clearly it looks a lot better now.

503
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<v Speaker 3>But it was.

504
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, i'd be honest with you. It didn't make

505
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<v Speaker 5>me feel any different about the team. It didn't make

506
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:30.480
<v Speaker 5>me start to question. Wait a second, I really thought

507
00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 5>Pat Kelsey put together a really good roster here. But

508
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:35.799
<v Speaker 5>these guys, man, they didn't look the part like I

509
00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 5>never and I never got to that place because again,

510
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:39.759
<v Speaker 5>it's just, you know, I knew what it was. It

511
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.359
<v Speaker 5>was somebody pulling out their iPhone snapping a picture when

512
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<v Speaker 5>nobody in the picture was ready for it. But it

513
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<v Speaker 5>couldn't have looked much worse. I mean, ye had guys

514
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<v Speaker 5>with their eyes closed. You had guys looked like they

515
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<v Speaker 5>just woke up from a nap. I mean, it was,

516
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<v Speaker 5>it was. It was not great, and it's one of

517
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<v Speaker 5>the many things that's happened. And I don't I don't

518
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<v Speaker 5>think anybody has any bad intent, And who the hell

519
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<v Speaker 5>am I It's tell people what they should do before

520
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<v Speaker 5>they post.

521
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Something on the internet, right, do what you want.

522
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<v Speaker 5>But there's been at least like three or four things

523
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<v Speaker 5>that's happened the last month or so that I think

524
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:11.920
<v Speaker 5>people are trying. They're coming from a good place, and

525
00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.119
<v Speaker 5>they do care about UVEL Athletics rather it be just

526
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<v Speaker 5>they're a super fan, or maybe they work in media,

527
00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:18.720
<v Speaker 5>but yet they don't hide that they favor Louisville like

528
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<v Speaker 5>I do. But it's backfired and it's made us look bad,

529
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<v Speaker 5>and we've we've kind of been the joke of the

530
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<v Speaker 5>Internet at times. Now part of that, in fact, maybe

531
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<v Speaker 5>not just a part of it, maybe the majority of

532
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<v Speaker 5>that is because we have a fan base that we're

533
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<v Speaker 5>you know, the fan base that that is our rival.

534
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's a billion of them, and they're all

535
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<v Speaker 5>anonymous on the internet under you know, RUPs, Renegade sixty seven,

536
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<v Speaker 5>Big Blue Bozo.

537
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

538
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they like the each they're you know, and

539
00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 5>there's there's every fan base in college sports has fans

540
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<v Speaker 5>that live behind anonymous accounts and just troll people. And

541
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<v Speaker 5>it's that's why I oftentimes refer to Twitter whatever you

542
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.200
<v Speaker 5>want to call it, as like a toxic wasteland. But

543
00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:04.839
<v Speaker 5>what you have to keep in mind is that like

544
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<v Speaker 5>the Kentucky fan base, I'm convinced that there's a billion

545
00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 5>of them. Compared to even other fan bases that we

546
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 5>view as a as a big fan base, like, there's

547
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<v Speaker 5>nowhere near as many of those big blue bozos as

548
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<v Speaker 5>I call them. So you know, I get it. If

549
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<v Speaker 5>there was a Kentucky team photo that looked like that,

550
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean I probably wouldn't have you know, I wouldn't

551
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<v Speaker 5>have gone in on it like others have because I'm

552
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<v Speaker 5>not somebody that like wants to invite someone to take

553
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<v Speaker 5>a shot at my personal appearance, if you know what

554
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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying, Like, I don't really go for personal appearance

555
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<v Speaker 5>because I don't want that thrown back at me because

556
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<v Speaker 5>I'm an easy target when it comes to that, I think.

557
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<v Speaker 5>But anyways, if you haven't seen the new Louisville team

558
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<v Speaker 5>photo that has been put out there, go check it

559
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<v Speaker 5>out because it's a much better look than what was

560
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<v Speaker 5>put out there yesterday. And again it got a quarter

561
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<v Speaker 5>of a million views on Twitter, which again I think

562
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<v Speaker 5>more than anything that speaks to the Kentucky fans just

563
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 5>wanting to share it and be trolls all right quick break,

564
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<v Speaker 5>we'll come back on the other side and welcome him in.

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<v Speaker 5>He is cl Brown of the Courier Journal. And don't

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<v Speaker 5>go anywhere. We're taking you up till six o'clock, so

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<v Speaker 5>keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's here on

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<v Speaker 5>him in. He's cl Brown from the Courier Journal who

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<v Speaker 5>joins us here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>See.

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<v Speaker 3>How are we doing? Brother?

584
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<v Speaker 4>I can't complain Nicholas good Man Man.

585
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<v Speaker 5>I'll start with I want to get to basketball in

586
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 5>a moment when it comes to Louisville football. I mean

587
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 5>this Miami matchup obviously big time game. You got a

588
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 5>top six team coming in. Louisville has not really a

589
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 5>deep history with Miami, but they played them a few times,

590
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 5>been able to take advantage of opportunities to knock this

591
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 5>team off.

592
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 3>What's your feel for this game Louisville.

593
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 5>I think despite being four and two, I think they've

594
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 5>shown they've they've got a pretty good quarterback, they've got

595
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 5>some good skill position players, and really, I don't think

596
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:21.880
<v Speaker 5>a lot of folks look at Louisville and feel as

597
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 5>if they've got, you know, a team that's been underwhelming

598
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to personnel, but they've made a lot

599
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 5>of mistakes that you feel like are.

600
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Avoidable at least. I do.

601
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<v Speaker 5>Just curious, as we're a few days away, what you

602
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 5>think of this matchup here certainly a chance for Louisville

603
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 5>to send their season in a positive direction if they

604
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 5>can pull off the upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish I had a better feel on it,

606
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, to try and make some money off it.

607
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 5>But and that's Louis's fault, right, You don't know how

608
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 5>many mistakes they're gonna make that you feel are avoidable

609
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 5>and all that.

610
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, man, Well, when you take a step

611
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>back from it, Louisville has two one possession losses.

612
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 4>That's it.

613
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Like, It's not like you're looking at these games that

614
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>they were overwhelmed by somebody's talent or lost up front

615
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>in the trenches and got dominated in that respect. Neither

616
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>one of those losses occurred that way. And really both

617
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>of the losses was really because of a bad start.

618
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:18.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they played well in the second half.

619
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<v Speaker 2>They played well after giving up, you know, twenty four

620
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 2>points in the first half of both of those games

621
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to Notre Dame in SMU. So I think Louisville is

622
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 2>in a good position where maybe they are being overlooked

623
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and Miami is certainly coming in vulnerable

624
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>having these last two wins, you know, having.

625
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 4>To have a short of a miracle.

626
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 2>But twenty five point comebacks don't come on trees, right,

627
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 2>So that the one at Cow was crazy, and having

628
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that call overturned the hell Mary at the end of

629
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Virginia's tech game to win that game was also fortunate

630
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<v Speaker 2>for Miami. So on one hand, I'm looking at it

631
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>as is this the game where Miami's luck kind of

632
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 2>runs out, or having a week off, did they come

633
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>back in and this is this might be the toughest

634
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>game on their schedule that they weren't expecting because next

635
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>week they got Florida State and I know that being

636
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>a rivalry for them, and before the season.

637
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 4>That was the game, you know, so.

638
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna certainly be an interesting one on Saturday. Yeah.

639
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 5>I thought Virginia was an opportunity for Louisville to finally

640
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, the opportunity was there. The Notre Dame

641
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 5>loss was one where you feel like, man, we made

642
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 5>so many mistakes, and yet if you maybe take away

643
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 5>two of them, we could say that we didn't play well,

644
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 5>really hurt ourselves, but we wanted Notre Dame and it

645
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 5>would be looked at as a win that had a

646
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 5>lot of value. I mean, SMU, I'll give them a

647
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of credit. They just came in and they were better.

648
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Louisville didn't play great, but SMU really showed

649
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Speaker 5>me something that I didn't know that they had. And

650
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 5>I thought the Virginia game would be a chance for

651
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 5>Louisville to go on the road play clean ball. Maybe

652
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 5>not win by three scores or anything like that. But

653
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 5>just you know, stop shooting yourself in the foot and

654
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 5>that didn't happen. I'm looking at this Saturday's matchup against

655
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.559
<v Speaker 5>Miami is one of two things. One, if you keep

656
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 5>making those mistakes. Miami is a team with the talent

657
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 5>that I think they could really bury you if they're

658
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 5>playing well and you continue to make you know, silly,

659
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 5>you commit silly penalties, you're disorganized defensively. But it's also

660
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 5>a chance where Okay, if there was ever a time

661
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 5>for you to get right, it would be it would

662
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 5>be this moment here. I just you know, I think

663
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.640
<v Speaker 5>for both teams, you know, as you mentioned Miami, they're

664
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 5>probably feeling kind of fortunate that they were.

665
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Able to avoid two losses there. They could have easily

666
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 3>gone the other way.

667
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.119
<v Speaker 5>But I'm kind of, you know, maybe this is just

668
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 5>the pessimist in mecl but I kind of feel like

669
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Miami of old would have lost those games, you know

670
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying. Like I'm actually, even though Cow's not

671
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 5>a great team, I kind of feel like that the

672
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 5>way they came back on the road like that, back

673
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 5>against the wall, kind of made me fear that more

674
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 5>than anything.

675
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, Well, I think the difference

676
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>is cam Ward. Yeah, he's special there, and yeah, brought

677
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 2>the swagger back to the you. And I don't think

678
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>at any point in that game, in that Cow game,

679
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 2>where they thinking we don't have what it takes to

680
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>come back because of that guy.

681
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 4>So but the thing about.

682
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Cam Ward, I will say, and I think this goes

683
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 2>back to this time at Washington State where he probably

684
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>felt like he had to do everything well, he did

685
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>have to do everything to kind of carry that offense

686
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and would maybe force some plays. I still think he

687
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>has that tendency to instead of just going for the

688
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>simple and going for the checkdown and you know, maybe

689
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna get a first down and have to

690
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>punt on that drive, but it's okay, you're gonna live

691
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 2>to fight again. He's still I gotta make this play.

692
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>He still has those tendencies and those flashes. So if

693
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Louisville can catch that cam Ward, that'll make you fill

694
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>out more positive.

695
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.039
<v Speaker 5>Nick cel Brown of the Curry Journal is our guest

696
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 5>joining us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.

697
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Let's shift gears here to basketball.

698
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.440
<v Speaker 5>Louisville coming in at number nine in the preseason eight

699
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 5>in the preseason ACC poll, which not a big surprise

700
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 5>to me. I think there's a lot of teams, really

701
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 5>the majority of this league. I feel like it's a

702
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.480
<v Speaker 5>big question mark, And really, I think you could say

703
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 5>that about a lot of college hoops teams, just with

704
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 5>the new world we're in with the portal and so

705
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 5>many new pieces and really just not knowing how good

706
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 5>anybody's going to be. But I know you wrote about Louisville,

707
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, needing to be one of the programs to

708
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of help restore the reputation of the ACC. We

709
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 5>chatted about this briefly last week, and you know, I

710
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 5>should throw the disclaimer out there more than I do,

711
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 5>because I've talked a lot in recent years about the

712
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 5>ACC as a hoops league just kind of slipping and

713
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 5>not being what it once was many years ago, and

714
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 5>certainly not what it was when Louisville joined it. But

715
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:42.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm aware Louisville has been a big part of that.

716
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 5>They were once really proud program that's been the worst

717
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 5>team in this league the last couple of years, in

718
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 5>two years where most would say the league was down overall.

719
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 5>You know, when when you see like if the ACC

720
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 5>ends up making it taking a step forward this year

721
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.240
<v Speaker 5>where those who cover the league like yourself can say, Okay,

722
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 5>this this thing is heading in the right direction. There

723
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 5>was a little bit of a of a lull there

724
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 5>whenever you lost legendary coaches that decided to move on

725
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 5>and retire.

726
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 3>Who are those teams?

727
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 5>Because I you know, I'll just say it, I would

728
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 5>be shocked if that ends up happening, where the ACC

729
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 5>does end up looking like one of the better leagues

730
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 5>in college hoops. I'm just I don't have a whole

731
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 5>lot of hope or faith that the league ends up

732
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 5>being that great. Now, with that said, that could be,

733
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 5>that could be something that Pat Kelsey could take advantage of.

734
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, and if you're a Louisville fan, I think

735
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 5>you hope that's what ends up happening. But as somebody

736
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 5>who's covered this league for so long, not only here

737
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 5>with the CJ, but during your time with the Raleigh

738
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 5>News Observer, with the Athletic and ESPN, I mean, you

739
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 5>know the ACC's history is a hoops league as well

740
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 5>as anybody.

741
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 3>What do you make of kind of where where the

742
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 3>league is right now?

743
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I still kind of feel like it might be

744
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>in a holding pattern of not getting back to what

745
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 2>we expect. But I do see some some flashes that

746
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's on the right track.

747
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 4>It's it's gonna get back, you know.

748
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I think here in the next couple of years, because

749
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Clempson can be good. Obviously, Duke and Carolina

750
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>are to me in a class by themselves.

751
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:13.840
<v Speaker 4>This year in the league, and then.

752
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the next year is like Wake Forest,

753
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I think should be very good. With the Hunter Salas

754
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>coming back this season. He probably could have stayed in

755
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 2>the draft and been picked last year. Them getting him

756
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 2>back is huge for Wake and Steve Fords has kind

757
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 2>of been knocking on the door of the NCAA Tournament

758
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 2>there since he's since he's gotten there and they just

759
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 2>haven't for whatever scheduling reasons or the lost at the

760
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>wrong time, haven't got in. But I think this is

761
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>the year they do it. I think Wake Clempson. I

762
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>think Pittsburgh is a team that could also, you know.

763
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 4>Help the league overall by being good. And Pittsburgh is

764
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 4>a team too.

765
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe if NC State doesn't run the table and when

766
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the A Tournament, maybe Pittsburgh actually gets into the NCAA Tournament,

767
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>but they probably got bumped out by that miraculous run

768
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 2>from NC State. But I think they're in a position.

769
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Caple has them in a position to kind of take.

770
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 4>That next step too.

771
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 2>But then after that, it's kind of like I mean,

772
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 2>NC State, I think Kevin Keats has.

773
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Something to work with. Obviously, he's got two.

774
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Former UFL players with Brandon Huntley Hatfield and Mike James

775
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>on his roster. They they could, you know, kind of

776
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 2>carry over that momentum from the Final four and be

777
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a and I don't mean be a Final four team,

778
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>but I mean like be a good team, be a

779
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>solid team, be an NCAA tournament team. I really have

780
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 2>questions about Miami. I'm not really sure. I think Virginia,

781
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 2>when you have Tony Bennett, should be the faith of

782
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the ACC.

783
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 4>He should be the coach.

784
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>That does the the pr if you will for the

785
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>league that Mike Cisseski and Roy Williams used to do

786
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>it back in the day.

787
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 5>He was more successful cel when he was competing against

788
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 5>all the legends, like he would win this league regularly.

789
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Whenever you would say that, Okay, we'll never see a

790
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 5>league with this many a league coach as ever.

791
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think what's what's hurt him is the portal.

792
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure what Virginia's nil situation is, but

793
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think he's been as quick to be

794
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 2>able to adapt because Tony teams are best when he

795
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 2>a gets NBA level talent in there and b when

796
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.519
<v Speaker 2>he has some time to develop game, like to supplement

797
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 2>that talent with guys who've been in the program and

798
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>have developed. And the portal just kind of imploded that

799
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 2>structure that he likes for his program. So it's it's

800
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and I look at their rockster and I don't see

801
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 2>it same here.

802
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Them being at number five has to be Bennett still

803
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 5>getting the bump because he's a national title coach and

804
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 5>everybody respects him because them being at five is like

805
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 5>the ultimate Okay, everybody's just guessing here.

806
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but I think and when people hate the

807
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>watching Virginia play, it's when he doesn't have talent, because

808
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that's when they have to muck it up and it

809
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>becomes the very you know, the game kind of plods

810
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 2>along and it's methodical and nobody wants to see it.

811
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>But he still wins that way because he knows how

812
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>to take you to the mud and wrestle, you know.

813
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 2>But and I think this will be that kind of

814
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 2>team this year that has to do that in order

815
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to win, and they'll they'll still win games. But the

816
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 2>league needs for Virginia to be what it's been at

817
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>his best, like from that run from like twenty fifteen

818
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 2>to twenty nineteen where they were competing for the league

819
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>title and won the national title in twenty nineteen. The

820
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>league needs Virginia to.

821
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Get back to that.

822
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 2>So I still think we're a couple of years away

823
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>from saying the ACC is a ventaed league, you know,

824
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 2>vented ACC again.

825
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 4>But I do feel like it's on the way.

826
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And you know, it wouldn't be a shock if

827
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 5>they get a handful of teams in and those teams

828
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 5>find a way to make a run.

829
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 3>That happens.

830
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 5>That's the NSAA tournament. But it used to be a

831
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 5>weekly thing that if you had two games, rather it

832
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 5>be a Monday for Big Monday, or you're playing on

833
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 5>a Wednesday or whatever, and then of course you're doing

834
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.239
<v Speaker 5>the Saturday or the Sunday. More often than not, one

835
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Speaker 5>of those two opportunities for ACC league members would be

836
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 5>an opportunity for you to get a valuable win that

837
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 5>really really helps you when it comes to fighting for

838
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 5>a tournament spot. And that's where it's really stood out

839
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 5>to be more than anything, is that you only end

840
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 5>up having few opportunities and you beat teams in your league,

841
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 5>but it doesn't give you much value. That's, you know,

842
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 5>somebody who has followed Louisville basketball for a long time.

843
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 5>You went from seeing that in the Big East every

844
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 5>year to the ACC for the first I don't know,

845
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 5>four or five years, and then lately it's just kind

846
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 5>of it's kind of dropped off. I do think some

847
00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.519
<v Speaker 5>of it is because of the perception of the league

848
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 5>and the way they've gone about scheduling. Hopefully they can

849
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 5>they can get past that. But one more question I

850
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 5>had for you cl before we let you go. What

851
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 5>years was it that you were the beat writer for

852
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 5>U of L hoops. I know you had many roles

853
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 5>at the CG over the years, but I could be

854
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 5>wrong here, but I feel like when you were the

855
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 5>beat writer for the CJ covering U of L men's basketball,

856
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 5>like that was when the rivalry with Patino and cal

857
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 5>was like at its peak.

858
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Am I wrong? Is my memory off there?

859
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 4>That's correct?

860
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>It was from old nine. Well old nine was that

861
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 2>first basketball season that I covered, So it's from nine

862
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>to thirteen.

863
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 5>As soon, right, as soon as it I mean that

864
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 5>that is quite literally. I think the era will go

865
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 5>back many many years and say the rivalry as far

866
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 5>as the fan base is was was so intense in

867
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 5>that exact window of time because it was cal beying

868
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 5>in Kentucky was still relatively new. Rick was trying to,

869
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, not be outdone by a guy he doesn't

870
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 5>like who took a job that he wishes he never left.

871
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 5>I mean that's the way it had played out. So

872
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 5>when you see Rick back in Lexington in that like,

873
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 5>what's your thoughts on all that? I feel like, given

874
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 5>how you covered Rick and how kind of embedded you

875
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 5>were with the program at the time, and knowing how

876
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Rick was like, there's probably nothing that would surprise you

877
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to stories about Rick Patino or what

878
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Rick Patino was gonna do.

879
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Well. I mean, if John calim Perry was still the

880
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 2>head coach at UK and Patino went back for Big

881
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Blue Madness, that would be a story. But the fact

882
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.639
<v Speaker 2>that it's Mark Pope, you know, that's his guy. Like

883
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>it would to me, I would be shocked if he

884
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't go, you know, like he's he's always shown support

885
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>for his former players, and it's it's been said out

886
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>there and you know I've heard on radio already. If

887
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Stee was the head coach right now, if Luke

888
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Hancock was somewhere as a head coach right now, Patino

889
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>would be supporting those guys in the same way.

890
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, he would be in whatever college they were in.

891
00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 2>He would be in that gear and he would be,

892
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, lending his support, lending his enthusiasm.

893
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 4>However, however he saw fit.

894
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know's it's not a big deal.

895
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I get it because of the rivalry. I get why.

896
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Some fans were kind of charged up about it, but

897
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it really isn't a big deal. He's not going to

898
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.559
<v Speaker 2>be carrying a blue flag during the season while Saint

899
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>John's is laying.

900
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 4>You know, he appeared.

901
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>He still has connections and friends and people that go

902
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 2>back from when he was at UK in the nineties

903
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 2>in Lexington, and it was a good time. I think,

904
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>if anything, there just hasn't been enough time that has

905
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>elapsed from him leaving Louisville in the way that he

906
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 2>did or in the way that got forced upon him.

907
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 2>For there'll be healing for him to come back here.

908
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But obviously, UK, it's been twenty five years, you know,

909
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 2>like it's been long enough.

910
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 5>And more than anything, it's the coach now is a

911
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 5>I who won a title and it was a captain

912
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 5>for him, Like that's the I mean, that's the ultimate

913
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 5>component there that made that whole thing kind of kind

914
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 5>of fall into place. So like, I think both things

915
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 5>can be true, Like it really isn't a big surprise.

916
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Rick did it to make anybody here

917
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 5>at U of l MAD, certainly not as players and fans.

918
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 5>But I also get why if you're a younger fan,

919
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 5>like if you're five to six years younger than me,

920
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 5>your only memory may be Rick coaching Louisville and you've

921
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 5>seen him in blue even though you knew he coached there,

922
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, it probably did put you in a place

923
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 5>you weren't expecting. But yeah, certainly been a big talking

924
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 5>point here in the last few days. But CL really

925
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 5>appreciate you making Tom first. We'll have to do this

926
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 5>again sooner.

927
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I brother no doubt appreciate that, all right.

928
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Take care. That's cl Brown from the Courier Journal. Good stuff.

929
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 5>As always with cl We'll take a quick break, come

930
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 5>back on the other side, wrap up this three o'clock

931
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 5>hour and keep the party rolling along. It's coffee and company.

932
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 5>Feel bout Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

933
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 5>I think for every you know, real life situation, there's

934
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 5>a corny Brad Paisley song for it, and I guess

935
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 5>that's what this is here because I did get my

936
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 5>car back for those who did, and here at the

937
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 5>beginning of the show, because I know you guys have

938
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 5>been losing sleep over it, right, You've been just stressing

939
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 5>stressing out like crazy, worried about is is Nick going

940
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 5>to get his car back? Well, I did get my

941
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 5>car back today, twenty seven days without it because AutoZone

942
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 5>broke it and then did pay to repair it. But

943
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 5>that was also its own process. But yes, I've got

944
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 5>my car back, all right. So this text came in

945
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 5>during our conversation there was Cel Brown. It was really

946
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 5>good to have cl on, and I'm going to hope

947
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 5>to have him on as as a weekly guest because

948
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's great and known him for a long time,

949
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 5>and he's somebody. And I was just telling John this

950
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 5>during the break that whenever I first got a chance

951
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 5>to actually get not necessarily inside access or anything like that,

952
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 5>but I was I was given credential access to where

953
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 5>I could go to games and you know, cover the team.

954
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 5>And at that time, we're talking two thousand and nine,

955
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 5>twenty ten, you know, it wasn't it wasn't that it

956
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 5>was still relatively new, and I remember there were a

957
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 5>lot of people who, you know, felt as if anybody

958
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.480
<v Speaker 5>that didn't work for a newspaper or a radio station

959
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 5>like this one, or a TV station, if you got

960
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 5>access and you were press conferences, I mean, they felt

961
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 5>like a lot of those people felt like you were

962
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 5>beneath him. And now it's a totally different world because

963
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 5>the landscape has changed so much in the last fifteen years.

964
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 3>But cl was always was always.

965
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 5>Kind to me, and you know, you know, would would

966
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 5>would you know, would would kind you know, not necessarily

967
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.000
<v Speaker 5>put me under his wing, but like when others would like,

968
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, be disgusted by my presence, he was always cool.

969
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 3>Him and him and Chip.

970
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Cosby, who has has left the media world, but was

971
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 5>also you know, around at that time, and you know

972
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 5>always you remember those kind of things, so shout out

973
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 5>to CL. But the text that came in said you

974
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 5>mentioned Patino with CL. What was the story he did

975
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 5>that Rick got really upset about I know of one,

976
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 5>and actually was going to ask him about that at

977
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 5>some point, just because you know, Patino has been talked

978
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 5>about here lately and we'd have to get to break.

979
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 3>But there was a story that CL wrote.

980
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 5>There was not even any It wasn't it was I mean,

981
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 5>it was just Rick losing his mind about something that

982
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 5>he didn't need to lose his mind about. But I'm

983
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 5>pretty sure CL talked about all the end. He was

984
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 5>writing about the injury history that UVEL had as far

985
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 5>as basketball, because there were guys that would get hurt

986
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 5>and he and I don't have the column in front

987
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 5>of me. It was many, many, many years ago, but

988
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 5>he had talked to Preston Knowles, who had just left Louisville,

989
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 5>and there was some kind of an insinuation that because

990
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 5>they practiced so hard, that's why guys get hurt, like.

991
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 3>During the season.

992
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 5>And I don't really think that there was a pointed,

993
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 5>you know comment it was just, you know, it was

994
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.360
<v Speaker 5>a storyline that Louisville was having some injury issues and

995
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 5>guys were getting hurt and practice not in games. And Rick,

996
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure he like yelled at him during a

997
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 5>press conference, meaning yelled at cl which would have been

998
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, for me at that time, it would have

999
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 5>been a very scary thing. But you know, he's a

1000
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 5>grown up, and I think Rick came out the next

1001
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 5>press conference and apologized to him. All right, real quick,

1002
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 5>let's talk about Jefferson Animal Hospital. You guys know there

1003
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.599
<v Speaker 5>are big events coming up this weekend on Saturday. Pints

1004
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 5>for pausing people, Bring your pet, bring your people. They're

1005
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 5>going to show you how pet, how pet blood donations work.

1006
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 5>They understand a lot of people out there myself andcluded

1007
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 5>wasn't even aware that that was a thing. Well it is.

1008
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 5>Your pets can donate blood. They may qualify to be

1009
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 5>a pet blood donor if your dog weighs less than

1010
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 5>fifty pounds and your cat weighs less than ten pounds.

1011
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 5>So and every time, every time there's a donation made,

1012
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.599
<v Speaker 5>that can help save up to four to six lives.

1013
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 5>So it's Pines for Pausing People. Ten Am to two

1014
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 5>pm this Saturday. Jefferson Animal Hospital over there on outer Loop.

1015
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 5>You can give them a call at five two nine

1016
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 5>hundred pets or you can visit pet bloodbank dot com

1017
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 5>to get more information. So again it's coming up this Saturday.

1018
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.400
<v Speaker 5>All right, we'll take a break, come back on the

1019
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 5>other side. Get Hour number two started right here on

1020
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 5>Sports Talk seven ninety
