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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into some talk about you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>person to another. Uh, the dc is slate. So on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they did this, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, we got to start talking because people

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<v Speaker 1>are getting Nancy like myself because we did a newscast

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<v Speaker 1>me and too, I did weekly geeks. So it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>that we did talking about like some issues we had

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<v Speaker 1>with the DCU stuff going on. And then Monday they

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<v Speaker 1>did this precedent where they announced a few things, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was more of like, uh, you know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know what? And I will say this, actually

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<v Speaker 1>is it called or quarreled?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of my concern professor at Quirrel's quarrel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say this calmed some of my concerns

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<v Speaker 1>because I respect that pretty much. What they went out

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that they got a six year plan

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<v Speaker 1>from Superman to now. There's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go some points and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to say, we'll move on. But they have very

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<v Speaker 1>much stress that when we hear about movies, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>movies that they talked about this precedent where they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh and the t Titans and even Saffron was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Narwaga's writing that, and James like, well, we've never

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<v Speaker 1>announced that. He's liked, no, I'm pretty sure we have.

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<v Speaker 1>And James like, no, that's just Scoopers. That got that

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<v Speaker 1>we've never publicly said. So he let it. He let

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<v Speaker 1>like a writer go accidentally. But I appreciate that they

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<v Speaker 1>said that. That stuff that like we talk of all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, like, oh, they're doing this, we do this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That anything we hear from DC in the future, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like in development. It doesn't mean it's a sure thing

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<v Speaker 1>James gonna stick in to, Like we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>plan and write a script and if the script is great,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go through. That's why Clay Face and Sergeant Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>which weren't on the original slate, are going through. Where

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<v Speaker 1>like he was honest and said, like, oh, stuff like authority.

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<v Speaker 1>We've made a bunch of changes and it just doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't want to rush it. What was a

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<v Speaker 1>Booster Gold because he said there's been a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>bumpy projects, but he said Booster Gold. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>showrunner and they just dropped out and said we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it. So that's where that went. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Waller Show, we're making lots of script issues. What

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<v Speaker 1>else was there? There was another there's another one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really appreciate that they were very candid and

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<v Speaker 1>honest about this. So I a lot of the worries

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<v Speaker 1>I had, have a lot of fires been put in

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<v Speaker 1>the water. But the one thing I will say, some

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<v Speaker 1>mean old point by point here. Those were some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they were talking about, these projects that

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<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, this is why we're just we're not

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to stick to Hey, we've announced this

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to do it because we put it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I think I do like that, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about like MCU's finally doing that with like war machines.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, yeah, you know what, this isn't a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not do this. We're before maybe they they would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, we have to do this, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I saw some worries. They said that they

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<v Speaker 1>plan on having seven projects a year. Originally it was

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<v Speaker 1>two movies, two shows, but now they're going with two

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<v Speaker 1>live action movies, uh, one animated movie, two live action series,

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<v Speaker 1>a live and then I think it's like a live

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<v Speaker 1>action animated or sorry, an animated show. Either way, seven projects, right,

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<v Speaker 1>very messy. I saw this mic in the discord if

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<v Speaker 1>they James got the fall of the DCU red, I thum, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what yet, but if it's all in

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<v Speaker 1>the DCU, they Gun and Company and Saffron should know better,

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<v Speaker 1>like look at MCU like like there's already too many projects.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, Kirka, how do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven projects a year? I'll say this again because I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's word vomit. But two live action movies, one

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<v Speaker 1>animated movie, two live action series, an animated series, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know there's something else that's seven. I've

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<v Speaker 1>sucked it up again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be at least two animated series.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Yes, because those are a bit cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>to make. But seven projects of a year is their plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did say that they do plan in six

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<v Speaker 1>years to culminate in like an Avengers type of movie.

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<v Speaker 1>My last point two, I guess before I threw the

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<v Speaker 1>use that he said they very much want to try

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<v Speaker 1>to not make it the homework issue. So it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like they want to be like MCU Phase one, where

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you had Cap, Ironman, Thor and Hulk, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't super connected, right, little connections. Yeah, sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>they want the DCU to be that going forward. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, why is clay Face happening right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Just because they think it's a good idea and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it. They don't want a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta watch this to do this, So I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot there, but yeah, I mean seven projects a year

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<v Speaker 3>just for DCU, I feel like that's a lot. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as a podcast or someone that talks about

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<v Speaker 3>these things, that's awesome. More coverage, more discussions, I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It just seems like such a high number though to

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<v Speaker 3>like just out of the gate, like just that's our

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<v Speaker 3>goal and that's what we're gonna be sticking to. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like over two years, that like makes a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more sense. But yeah, I guess they're just up in

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<v Speaker 3>the ante and it's uh, I I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna feel natural, and like, like even for a

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<v Speaker 3>dc fan, I feel like it's gonna be tough to

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<v Speaker 3>like follow all of that. Like seven projects a year,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially if it is an animated show and then

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<v Speaker 3>like a live action, like it seems like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be covering like a wide range, even though it is

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<v Speaker 3>all under the DC banner. So to get that, although

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<v Speaker 3>they don't want to make it like homework, it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of is, you know, like if you really want to

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<v Speaker 3>get all of the lead up, like you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>doing that. So if, like you said, a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years down the road, they're like, it's all gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>aligning to this, it's just hard for me to really

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<v Speaker 3>see it looking natural and clean and uh without things

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<v Speaker 3>being canceled and issues, because even just getting a project

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<v Speaker 3>out has issues, right, Like it's like many things we

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<v Speaker 3>just talked about, the whole Disney thing or sorry not Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I guess Lucasfilm and Star Wars and how

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<v Speaker 3>many things were promised and many things were not seen

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<v Speaker 3>by us or by any anyone. So yeah, no, that's

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<v Speaker 3>just my initial thoughts. But as a glutton for content,

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah, fuck yeah, seven seven projects, let's go, And

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's smart for them to clarify that. They said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless we announce this in production, don't take it as yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like to kind of like we talked about with Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd always say like, hey, we're doing a ray movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And what would always bug me is they would announce

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<v Speaker 1>it and they're still meaning they don't even have the

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<v Speaker 1>script done. It's like this, That's that's what bugs me.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I like that. They even said with Flannagan that

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<v Speaker 1>he pitched them on Clayface. They said, no, he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a script. I'm assuming he wrote a script during the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say he did. But it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, and then he turned it into script.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, you had some downtime put it

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, this is a great script, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And then they announced, hey, this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>going into production in the fall, like it's happening. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all these other like we talk on these rumors and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but again that's not stuff they like. Me and Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>talked about last week that Daniel Craig dropped it as

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Rock, like he said, they've never officially ever they

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing gun Saffron DC relay them saying hey Sergeant

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<v Speaker 1>Rock is coming. It's just stuff that because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>way we the world works now, right that all these scoopers,

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<v Speaker 1>they they get charts and they get casting, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like stuff that you don't even want to out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're Star Wars. That's what bugs me. It's like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>officially announce the Ray movie till it's like we're good

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<v Speaker 1>to go, are locked and loaded, which they've done with

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<v Speaker 1>many right.

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<v Speaker 2>So mm hmm yeah, I mean I have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna I don't have my own hashtag like

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<v Speaker 2>Travis told you, but I feel like I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>the Dylan told you here because I feel like since

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was announced, I was like, this is far

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<v Speaker 2>too you know, bold and brave to use the the

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<v Speaker 2>Batman naming scheme to come out here at the Gate

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<v Speaker 2>without anything in production at all and announce all these things. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's gonna be connectivity between the animated shows, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do the voice actors, and they're gonna come

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<v Speaker 2>into live action. It's gonna be seamless and perfect and

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<v Speaker 2>all these things are gonna happen. I was like, no chance,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's just not it's not gonna be as easy

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<v Speaker 2>as they envision it, which clearly has been the case

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<v Speaker 2>if they can't get you know, writers to stay in

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<v Speaker 2>the room long enough to write some of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think now, especially like up in the Ante

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, just seems like even even crazier. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I I like, we still haven't even gotten

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<v Speaker 2>Superman yet, you know, Like I guess it's kicked off

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<v Speaker 2>now with Creature Commandos. But and then you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>of this is built on the foundation of like WB's

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly shaky foundation, which at any moment could just slip

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<v Speaker 2>out from nt of them and cast all this stuff anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>which feels like six year plan really, Like, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to think about the future, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, you think that's gonna last that long. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see. And it's like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>outside their control to some extent too, unless their movies

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<v Speaker 2>are all just huge billion dollar movies and all these

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<v Speaker 2>shows make a shit ton of money. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how shows make money, really, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the economics of all that. It's hard to follow sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know. This is uh not really

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<v Speaker 2>surprising to me. I guess I've always liked the transparency

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<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, I think it could lead

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<v Speaker 2>to some bad blood with people who are really excited

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<v Speaker 2>about these things. You know, the world's number one booster

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<v Speaker 2>gold fan. Holy shit, I'm finally getting a movie. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe they announced that and then it just gets

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out for really no like this that's not really

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<v Speaker 2>good reason, Like, oh, the writer kind of just said

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<v Speaker 2>give up on it. Like that sounds like you we're

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<v Speaker 2>not pretty much effort in that project, of like it

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<v Speaker 2>was that easy for it to fall apart. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't buy it. I don't think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go off as smoothly as they expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I appreciate them being honest, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to say seven projects, right they because like

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're planning is so I think they're plan

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<v Speaker 1>the MCU would do something like Clayflace, like you won't

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be get fifteen DCU projects in time between

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they could just be lying and just bullshit us,

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<v Speaker 1>but they said, like, hey, that's not our plan to

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<v Speaker 1>make him the Batman. We're doing our own thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>the DCU. They can do whatever they want. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>Reeves finishes stuff, But they said they have no plans.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what is interesting before I throw the Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>me makes very little sense that he's like, has very

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<v Speaker 1>Batman Superman moving like a team up and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. But I'm happy that Pattison is not uh

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that. And uh yeah, they announced like a

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<v Speaker 1>Green Lantern animated show. They announced a Starfire animated show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they did confirm here. But uh, tay, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think James Gunn just he just is like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I did Creature Commandos, I directed Superman, I'll direct Batman

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna direct all of it. I think with

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<v Speaker 1>uh not not he didn't do Supergirl Supergirls. Halfway through

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<v Speaker 1>said that script's going well, like he said, the production's

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<v Speaker 1>going well, that's gonna be ready for next year. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the ones that he will be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>Creature Commando's was just like like whatever, he just did

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<v Speaker 1>think I think anybody that is in that Just League movie,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where he could step in, where it is Superman, Batman.

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<v Speaker 1>and no video games. James Gunn did say expect something

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<v Speaker 1>in the next couple of years. I think Warner Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>Games is just a mess right now. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't really have anything to do with that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know because he does. He doesn't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, just wait on that Warner Brothers Games.

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<v Speaker 4>The fucking release a new roadmap for Kill the Justice League.

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<v Speaker 1>Game or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting to ten projects a year. Everyone had some

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<v Speaker 2>games in there, good.

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<v Speaker 1>To go, Yeah, but here continue Hi, So I can

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<v Speaker 1>answer your question. He'll do that with the important projects.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think if he feels it's not working out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think his transparency and his blundness just address that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this is how it is with these projects, and that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>That's wonderful. I think other companies could look at that

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<v Speaker 1>Love to know. I would love to just sit by

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<v Speaker 4>And here we are, you know, and have James Gunn

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<v Speaker 1>Like like, honestly, that's not their biggest thing. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to ask those though this particulars, but they don't. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're Gunn. That is something he is doing a bit differently.

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<v Speaker 4>So mm hmm. The plethora though of projects that are

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<v Speaker 4>I'm totally okay with you know, two a year, Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>A year totally works for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, holy smokes, I don't need like on and on

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<v Speaker 4>and a movie. That's totally fine. But to I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>some of these projects bomb. I don't think Superman's gonna bomb,

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<v Speaker 4>But what happens if Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>If Superman if that bombs or disappoints, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually just over. I think it's just they go back,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think this is all I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>think Superman is gonna bomb, but I think that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But like to answer your question, that's why you make

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<v Speaker 1>clay Face for forty million dollars, right, Like that helps

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<v Speaker 1>you instead of fight? That's right? Oh well this is

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million, like Joker too, right like that? What could

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<v Speaker 1>happen there? So if you make clay Face for forty million, easy,

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Rod forty sixty million, Like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone wants to starge a rock movie, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Green Lanterns is a TV show on HBO Max, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Superman two happens, does undo it or pass it off?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he definitely does it. But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>do agree with the rumors because he says he's writing something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not announced. He just says it's connected to Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think he is, because that's every thing too

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<v Speaker 1>with the Batman. He said, well, you might see the

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<v Speaker 1>Batman before Raven Bold. I guess you could have him

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna laugh if it makes a billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and because the whole thing about BVS not making a

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<v Speaker 4>What was the company he said about Batman, you'd see

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<v Speaker 1>He said, there's a chance you'll see him before Braybell,

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<v Speaker 4>Said that before after Creature Commandos.

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<v Speaker 1>He said this like it on Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh just okay, now you're gonna say like Creature Commandos

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<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, he's in there. But I think people said

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<v Speaker 1>like would because he said they're not gonna, which was

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<v Speaker 1>Brad of the He said he would not reveal the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious who is writing Brave in the Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe Legit, like or Pierre Saffer and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna write my first movie and that's gonna be Batman.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I think some report asked about Clay Face

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, like there's a chance you'd see Batman before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just because they have no idea when

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<v Speaker 1>for the Batman and Matt's, you know, take taking his time,

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<v Speaker 1>he's cooking. But I think that's the problem. They have

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<v Speaker 1>Right and cast Glen Powell.

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