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Speaker 2: seven ninety Louisville dot com. The U of L Football
Speaker 2: luncheon was earlier today and haven't heard a whole lot
Speaker 2: of feedback as to what as to how it went.
Speaker 2: I assume it went well. There's clearly excitement once again
Speaker 2: for Louisville football, and there's a lot of ways you
Speaker 2: can you can determine that, right, but maybe no better
Speaker 2: way to do that than people spending money. And right
Speaker 2: now season ticket sales are in a really good spot.
Speaker 2: Josh Hurd did say at the sellout crowd for the
Speaker 2: Louisville fotball kickoff luncheon, So a packed crowd there and
Speaker 2: they have currently well I don't know if currently, but
Speaker 2: he says that they will top forty thousand in season
Speaker 2: ticket sales, which hey, look, I mean not a big
Speaker 2: surprise considering broms here and you're coming off a ten
Speaker 2: win season. I mean, the vibes are good. But if
Speaker 2: you keep it up, like if you start, here's where
Speaker 2: things can get really special. When you start having sustained success.
Speaker 2: And with basketball, I mean, it's just going to be
Speaker 2: I mean, any little success is going to feel a
Speaker 2: lot better than it typically would just because of the
Speaker 2: recent disaster that was going on. But you know, when
Speaker 2: it comes to nil money that is that is being
Speaker 2: put up by fans, you're gonna always need corporate help
Speaker 2: and all that and big donors and whatnot. But once
Speaker 2: you start having like consist in success where Louisville football knows, hey,
Speaker 2: we're in good shape. Right when we have a year
Speaker 2: where we're really special, maybe a playoff contender may have
Speaker 2: a year where you know, we're kind of going through
Speaker 2: some growing pains whatever it may be, but like if
Speaker 2: you know, hey, we're never going to drop below eight
Speaker 2: and maybe every now and then we get ten again. Like,
Speaker 2: and that's tough to have that be your standard, that
Speaker 2: be what you have sustained, but it's also not unrealistic.
Speaker 2: And if you can do that, man, like, that's whenever
Speaker 2: you start to see things where you have things with
Speaker 2: U of l Athletics just in a you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say back to where it was and
Speaker 2: the you know, the the era that was the Year
Speaker 2: of the Cardinal, but you got to have sustained success
Speaker 2: in the major sports and Jeff Bram I think is
Speaker 2: going to do that. He's already off to a great start.
Speaker 2: And you know, Pat Kelsey, the only time will tell,
Speaker 2: but man, that guy has done everything needed to inject
Speaker 2: enthusiasm excitement within the fan base. And you can tell.
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's little. I don't want to make
Speaker 2: it out like it's some huge thing, but to see
Speaker 2: him helping everybody move in yesterday over on campus, not
Speaker 2: just as players, but you know, just walking aro around,
Speaker 2: meeting students, introducing himself. You know, he understands that a
Speaker 2: big part of this is, Hey, let's let's wake this
Speaker 2: fan base up and let him know we're here. We're
Speaker 2: gonna win games, and Louisville basketball is going to be
Speaker 2: back to where blocks so good stuff. All right, speaking
Speaker 2: to good stuff, it's the one and only doctor Eric
Speaker 2: Michilroy joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: How are we doing, Eric man, I'm doing great, Nick,
Speaker 3: How are.
Speaker 2: You doing doing well? It's Friday, It's our last weekend
Speaker 2: without college football, and that makes me very happy. We're
Speaker 2: we're getting closer. I know it is. It's crazy. He's
Speaker 2: getting closer and closer. And you know, we over the
Speaker 2: years have talked a lot about the mental component to
Speaker 2: recovering from injuries. And we've talked about Tyler Shuck, the
Speaker 2: Louisville quarterback who's transferred in from Texas Tech and Oregon,
Speaker 2: and he's unfortunately had injuries throughout his entire career. And
Speaker 2: some of them have been, you know, seemingly just you know,
Speaker 2: bad luck. Some have been maybe you know, I you know,
Speaker 2: you never know, right, However, if you're somebody like him
Speaker 2: who's played college football for five years, this will be
Speaker 2: a six year He's older, he's more mature, He's gone
Speaker 2: through the we have process many times more times than
Speaker 2: anybody would want to. Yet right now, if he was
Speaker 2: to check the pulse of what's being said about him,
Speaker 2: not only within the Louisville fan base, but nationally, it's, well,
Speaker 2: Louisville's got Tyler Schuck, but can he stay healthy? How
Speaker 2: do you in your how do you in your in
Speaker 2: your profession, in your industry? You know, if he came
Speaker 2: to you and said, man, like, I'm just overthinking this
Speaker 2: injury stuff because everywhere I look it's all anybody's talking about.
Speaker 2: And understandably so it is something that is attached to him,
Speaker 2: But like, how do athletes best sort of navigate that?
Speaker 2: Because I think at times we forget these people are
Speaker 2: human beings.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question, Nick, And I think
Speaker 4: that what is lost in the whole rehab and recovery
Speaker 4: process is the importance of a team of providers that
Speaker 4: are there to help with whatever attribute or whatever attribute,
Speaker 4: whatever issue.
Speaker 3: That is going on with the athletes.
Speaker 4: So a lot of times what we see is these
Speaker 4: athletes are doing great, but they don't feel like it,
Speaker 4: are there. They a lot of fear and anxiety are
Speaker 4: out about return to play.
Speaker 3: They look good in practice, they feel good in practice.
Speaker 4: Or move even great, you know, but then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, you're getting closer to competition, and you know,
Speaker 4: those those bad negative thoughts coming back into their head.
Speaker 4: Am I able cannot perform at the level I once was?
Speaker 4: All those all those things start to run through their head.
Speaker 4: And that's where the sports psychologists come in. So they're
Speaker 4: not just there to help, you know, focus them on
Speaker 4: positive thought.
Speaker 3: And mindfulness and stuff.
Speaker 4: They're there and you know, on the injury returning from
Speaker 4: play injury too, they're they're help there to help address
Speaker 4: their their issues, those negative thoughts that they may have,
Speaker 4: those those thoughts of oh, nobody believe in me like
Speaker 4: that is their role, and they are a vital I
Speaker 4: mean vital role in the recovery and the return to
Speaker 4: sport and the return to play process for any athlete
Speaker 4: of any sport, and for somebody like him, that that's
Speaker 4: who he's talking to, and that's who he should be
Speaker 4: talking to because they're gonna help mitigate those fears. You know,
Speaker 4: he already has the natural fears of what's happened to
Speaker 4: him in the past, and you know, and that is normal.
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, oh I cannot perform
Speaker 4: like I need to.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a whole other variable. And then you
Speaker 3: know the.
Speaker 4: Outside thoughts of you know, can this guy or are
Speaker 4: we gonna you know, if he goes down and doesn't
Speaker 4: get up very fast?
Speaker 3: Oh no, is it over? You know those kind of things.
Speaker 3: So I think that you know, he's gonna be on
Speaker 3: a regular having a regular conversation.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he already has with a sports psych who
Speaker 4: can help him manage not only the fear and anxiety
Speaker 4: of returning to play, but also the ability to play
Speaker 4: it at a high level.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe this is me just looking at it
Speaker 2: from an extremely glass half full rather than glass half empty,
Speaker 2: But I do feel like the repetition is big in
Speaker 2: every in everything, and I think, knowing he's gone through
Speaker 2: it before, maybe I guess it. You know, he could
Speaker 2: either look at it as like wow, I keep going
Speaker 2: through the process feeling great and I keep getting injured.
Speaker 2: That's probably the negative way to look at it, and
Speaker 2: in fact it is, But there's another side of like, hey,
Speaker 2: I've gone through this before, I've come back, like I
Speaker 2: know the grind that it takes. Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I guess it just depends on who you are as
Speaker 2: a person. But I think, you know, nobody wants to
Speaker 2: get injured ever, and when you have multiple injuries, I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's crushing to you as an athlete and everybody
Speaker 2: and everybody involved in your recovery. But there's also like
Speaker 2: not as much maybe fear because hey, he's gone through
Speaker 2: this process before, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that. I mean obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, everybody handles it differ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just comes down I guess your mindset individually, right,
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 3: Think the fear is normal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think he's always going to be concerned, right,
Speaker 4: He's got you know, he wants to play well, he
Speaker 4: wants to perform.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to ruin another football season. You know,
Speaker 3: he understands this is it Like he gets it. He
Speaker 3: should get it, like you know, he should go through
Speaker 3: those things in his head.
Speaker 4: You have to accept the risk, and I think that
Speaker 4: it's part of the healing process. In order for you
Speaker 4: to get over you have to accept that it's possible.
Speaker 4: But you've got to make sure that you're in the
Speaker 4: mindset you've done everything you possibly can to be at
Speaker 4: the level you need to be, and believe in yourself
Speaker 4: and the people around you that they are getting you
Speaker 4: where you need to be and that that is harder
Speaker 4: than it is to say, you know, but I do
Speaker 4: think that that's where having a team of providers there
Speaker 4: for him that enable him to work through those challenges
Speaker 4: and and you're right, having been there before helps him
Speaker 4: through that process.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's still.
Speaker 4: You know, you hear athletes say this all the time, right,
Speaker 4: I just needed to get out there and take my
Speaker 4: first hit, right like, you know that that's still there,
Speaker 4: like and still you until you get out there and
Speaker 4: you start playing and performing, you know, you're really not
Speaker 4: gonna know and they they need to do it.
Speaker 3: It's like you gotta you gotta take that leap, uh.
Speaker 4: And then once they get into it, then it's then
Speaker 4: they're usually much better. Not that they don't have moments,
Speaker 4: but that initial fear anxiety, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's once you once you dive in, you're in right,
Speaker 2: and you could maybe have a moment where your your
Speaker 2: mind plays a trick on you for a moment, but overall,
Speaker 2: once you're me because again, football football specifically, it's such
Speaker 2: a contact sport to where you know, more often than not,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be getting some contact on just about every
Speaker 2: you know, depending on the position you play like, it's
Speaker 2: not uncommon. Therefore, you know, once you're out there, I
Speaker 2: think it does kind of removes itself from your brain
Speaker 2: because you know, it's just such a constant thing within
Speaker 2: that within that battlefield.
Speaker 4: So speak and nick for and if you think about it,
Speaker 4: remember you hear me say this all the time on here.
Speaker 3: It's so position specific.
Speaker 4: Sure, you know, your quarterbacks are the most protected player
Speaker 4: in practice, rightfully, so, right but when you got one
Speaker 4: coming back from an injury and they're protected so much
Speaker 4: in practice, that first hit sometimes is coming in a game.
Speaker 3: You know, a lineman, a linebacker, a running back.
Speaker 4: They're gonna you're gonna get them involved in contact before
Speaker 4: they play a quarterback, not necessarily, so you know, for
Speaker 4: a quarterback it is a challenge because they don't really
Speaker 4: you know, they're protected and again it's the right thing
Speaker 4: to do, but at the same time, they may have
Speaker 4: that anxiety going you know, a little bit higher going
Speaker 4: into the game just because they're you know, probably one
Speaker 4: of the most if not the most exposed players on
Speaker 4: the field. At the same time, you know, they're obviously
Speaker 4: one of the most the most important, and.
Speaker 3: So it's it's that first time a lot of times
Speaker 3: is in competition.
Speaker 2: Doctor Eric McElroy Proria Physical Therapy is our guest joining
Speaker 2: us here on Sports Talk seven ninety so. Kentucky football
Speaker 2: unfortunately had a pretty big injury, but it's not a
Speaker 2: season ending thing. But a running back, Chip Trainum, who
Speaker 2: transferred in from Ohio State. He's expected to take over
Speaker 2: Ray Davis's role and has had a pretty good career
Speaker 2: at both Arizona State and Ohio State and was expected
Speaker 2: to be again their lead guy as far as a ballcarrier,
Speaker 2: but he suffered this past weekend a broken hand, and
Speaker 2: the report is that he's going to be out three
Speaker 2: to four weeks and could potentially miss their first two games.
Speaker 2: What is it? And I guess it just depends on
Speaker 2: maybe what kind of break where it is, But what'll
Speaker 2: be the rehab process? I mean?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 2: I mean, how can you know you can do things
Speaker 2: to keep yourself in shape while not getting hit because
Speaker 2: you know it's just your hand, but you know, just
Speaker 2: I know you're guessing a little bit here. What would
Speaker 2: you think the next three to four weeks are gonna
Speaker 2: be like for him? I guess it depends on if
Speaker 2: they're surgery needed. But I feel like overall, like you know,
Speaker 2: you could put a big club on that hand and
Speaker 2: it probably probably just comes down to like pain tolerance
Speaker 2: for him, right yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean the first thing is just making sure the
Speaker 3: bones are healing well.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then it's you know, you know.
Speaker 4: Pain mitigation, inflammation, uh, moving the fluid if they're swelling,
Speaker 4: maintaining mobility, maintaining grip strength. You know, your your body
Speaker 4: kind of goes into shock muscles kind of. You know,
Speaker 4: they're not weak because you're not using them, they're weak
Speaker 4: because of the trauma. You know, they're they shut down.
Speaker 4: It's just biology, primitive nature of things. And so you
Speaker 4: know your job is to it's you're you're in crunch time.
Speaker 4: So you know there's a lot of things that you
Speaker 4: may do that you skip or uh, you won't get
Speaker 4: to because the whole goal is to get him back
Speaker 4: to playing. And so you know, you're that's what you're doing.
Speaker 4: You're you're what do what do we need to do
Speaker 4: damage control to make sure that he can perform. And
Speaker 4: then on the I kind of as you mentioned with
Speaker 4: the club, if you will every every position a little different,
Speaker 4: I can get away with that as in some positions
Speaker 4: but not in others. So it's what what tools cannot
Speaker 4: bring to the table that enable him to perform but
Speaker 4: protect him at the same time. And that's where the
Speaker 4: creativity of spointing and things like that come in. That
Speaker 4: you know, if if this was the off season, you
Speaker 4: would never really be honest, have to worry about.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, in season, you don't have time
Speaker 3: to to mess around, so you got to fear those
Speaker 3: things out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wild how the injuries in the in
Speaker 2: the running back position have just piled up in the SEC.
Speaker 2: I think I read that train him is the Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the fourth. He's the fourth SEC starting running back
Speaker 2: to suffer an injury in fall camp. Texas has a
Speaker 2: running back that went down, Rubin Owens from a and
Speaker 2: m out for the season with a leg injury. Montreal
Speaker 2: Johnson of Florida. He's uh, he's apparently potentially going to
Speaker 2: miss the season. So tough, lucky. Anytime you have a
Speaker 2: news coming out of fall camp from a practice, it's
Speaker 2: usually something injury related. That's never good. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's just part. It's part. It's part of the sport,
Speaker 2: it really is. And it's inevitable that, you know, more
Speaker 2: more up than not, somebody's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got to have depth. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: we can.
Speaker 4: Brag about this team and that team, but if you
Speaker 4: don't have depth, it doesn't matter. And that and that
Speaker 4: and the power five, especially the the gaps are smaller
Speaker 4: and smaller, especially with the transfer portal, and if you
Speaker 4: if you don't have anybody behind them, you know, it's
Speaker 4: going to impact your season.
Speaker 3: And hopefully fan bases understand that.
Speaker 2: That's why they say you got to be ready, right
Speaker 2: next guy's always got to be ready.
Speaker 3: You got to be ready.
Speaker 2: You never know, all right, So I've got a I
Speaker 2: got a hypothetical question for you, just just curious. I
Speaker 2: know it seems like each time there is a a
Speaker 2: tor meniscus torn ACL type of injury, and I know
Speaker 2: they're not exactly the same, but any an injury where
Speaker 2: it requires an athlete to go under surgery, I feel
Speaker 2: like over the years, the recovery time for those has
Speaker 2: has sped up, maybe not at a rapid pace, but
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, twenty years ago, the timeline
Speaker 2: for somebody coming off of an ACL or something like
Speaker 2: that is much different now than it was then. But
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, the former Michigan quarterback, he's gonna he's expected
Speaker 2: to miss. In fact, they're reporting he will miss the
Speaker 2: entire twenty twenty four season after undergoing surgery to repair
Speaker 2: his torn meniscus. So given the timing right it's you know,
Speaker 2: mid mid August, Like, is there not that they would
Speaker 2: They probably won't need to, he's a rookie, but like,
Speaker 2: could we see a scenario maybe, like where if he's
Speaker 2: really on track and for some reason like they need him, Like,
Speaker 2: is there a is there a timeline there to where
Speaker 2: he could actually play for them at any point in
Speaker 2: the regular season?
Speaker 3: I think so. I was kind of surprised that.
Speaker 2: They went ahead and Shelton for the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a situational thing. Now.
Speaker 4: Look, I totally understand the mindset of the surgeon. You know,
Speaker 4: you want to maintain normal biology the best you can.
Speaker 4: He's young, you know, quarterbacks nowadays can play a long time.
Speaker 4: You know, I think that it didn't look like he
Speaker 4: was going to walk in as the starter. H So,
Speaker 4: you know, I think there's a lot that came into
Speaker 4: the decision, and I'm sure McCarthy was just as involved
Speaker 4: in that decision as anybody. And and I also think that,
Speaker 4: you know, I think they're gonna leave the door open
Speaker 4: to hey, if you know, we're gonna continue. I guarantee
Speaker 4: they're going to continue as if he's going to be
Speaker 4: able to return, because that's kind of the mindset you need.
Speaker 4: And then that way, if something comes up and he
Speaker 4: needs to be available, you know, he can be available.
Speaker 4: So I think that that's probably the way they will
Speaker 4: address it. But at the same time, if he doesn't
Speaker 4: have to be available, and we've protected his normal biology
Speaker 4: and you know, the reality of it is, he'll probably
Speaker 4: for sure be able to start being involved in practice
Speaker 4: and stuff. So he's learning the playbook, he's he's you know,
Speaker 4: working with receivers and and all those kind of things,
Speaker 4: so he's doing the things he at some point he
Speaker 4: may already be able to, but it may open up
Speaker 4: a roster spot for him to get another backup in
Speaker 4: so they're not having to you know, utilize him. You know,
Speaker 4: they can put him on the IR for now and
Speaker 4: uh and bring in somebody else and that'll protect him
Speaker 4: a little bit and protect him a little longer, all right.
Speaker 2: Last question for you, What is your favorite, if anything,
Speaker 2: about the Kentucky State Fair.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, Uh, you know, I'm not a huge fair guy,
Speaker 4: to be honest, I think the Fair is awesome for
Speaker 4: those who like to go, But uh, I don't know
Speaker 4: if I have one. I mean, I kind of if
Speaker 4: when we do go out there, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: I try to eat healthy, but I don't mind eating
Speaker 4: some of the weird.
Speaker 3: Junk just to check it check at the box.
Speaker 2: That's why a lot of people go.
Speaker 3: I feel like the donut burger.
Speaker 4: You don't know, it's actually I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 4: But some people can't stand him. But I like that sweet, savory,
Speaker 4: savory type thing.
Speaker 2: So well, you're the second guest in yesterday It was
Speaker 2: Kent Spencer from wjs S eleven. He I asked him
Speaker 2: a similar question. He mentioned that donut burger. I am
Speaker 2: gonna try it. I'm going to the Fair tomorrow. I've
Speaker 2: never had it. It just doesn't you know, to me,
Speaker 2: it just seems like he'd be so rich. But then again,
Speaker 2: it's been one of the more popular items at the
Speaker 2: Fair for a long time, so it must be pretty good.
Speaker 2: I people keep get.
Speaker 4: Pretty good, but I don't get it with anything, but
Speaker 4: I haven't had one in a long time.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't do like the blood is tomato.
Speaker 3: I think it ruins it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would be I like my I like
Speaker 2: my my Burger's playing anyway, But yeah, lettuce and tomato
Speaker 2: with the donut. Just dam out on that dress it man,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I'm glad I know now, and
Speaker 2: because I can tell them, Hey, just give me the burger,
Speaker 2: the cheese, and put the meat.
Speaker 3: Man, that's donut meat. That's all I need.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, uh, I'm going to give it a shot. Hopefully,
Speaker 2: uh hopefully it's uh you know, I mean I just
Speaker 2: feel like after a few bites of that, like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna feel like something going on with my arteries. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You will, Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm telling myself. Hey, I've done pretty
Speaker 2: good this week with with you know, watching what I've
Speaker 2: eat eating eating healthy. But you know, maybe maybe my
Speaker 2: wife and I'll split one. She's had it before, she
Speaker 2: said she liked it, so it'll probably be the best
Speaker 2: way to uh wait to go about it. But Eric
Speaker 2: is always I appreciate you making time for us. Enjoy
Speaker 2: your weekend again, our last weekend without college football. It's
Speaker 2: almost here.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, man, you have a going to take care.
Speaker 2: That's doctor Eric McElroy, pro re ephysical therapy. Always appreciate
Speaker 2: his time. Good stuff there, no doubt. All right, we'll
Speaker 2: come back here on the other side. The keep the
Speaker 2: party rolling along. We can call it a party. Right,
Speaker 2: it's Friday. We're having fun.
Speaker 6: It's always a party on Friday.
Speaker 2: It's right, that's right. Good stuff. All right, don't go anywhere,
Speaker 2: and I mean it, don't move, give it a lock
Speaker 2: right here on Sports Talk seven ninety lmfao, right correct.
Speaker 6: They had a very weird run back in the early
Speaker 6: twenty tens.
Speaker 2: I feel like, man, when they when was it this
Speaker 2: song that you know?
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is what really catapulted me. Yeah, a few
Speaker 6: other weird songs like I'm in Miami Bitch that came
Speaker 6: out in the early two thousands, but this is what
Speaker 6: really kind of billed them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, gosh, it's so long ago too. And
Speaker 2: are they still like around?
Speaker 6: I don't think they are. I think both of the
Speaker 6: duo that is lmfao. I think they do their own
Speaker 6: things separately.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, man, I remember this was like the Jersey
Speaker 2: Shore Show era, and I remember, like, I just remember
Speaker 2: not knowing what these dudes looked like. And then I
Speaker 2: saw them hanging out with like Snookie and Paulie D
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, but yeah, they're like.
Speaker 6: I believe be wrong. I believe they were like in
Speaker 6: their early forties whenever they kind of made it big.
Speaker 6: I could be wrong about that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know, but yeah, I mean, like the so
Speaker 2: red Foo is one of the names.
Speaker 6: And sky Blue is the other one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I mean he's forty eight, now yeah,
Speaker 2: it checks out, so skyt and sky Blue is he's younger,
Speaker 2: he's thirty seven. But yeah, lmfao, shout out to them.
Speaker 2: I don't believe they're still active in the music scene.
Speaker 2: But man, when they were big, for a minute, they
Speaker 2: were big, it didn't last long, all right. I've got
Speaker 2: my fantasy football draft this weekend, John and I have
Speaker 2: not put any thought into like what I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: with my team. We actually have a keeper league, so
Speaker 2: like there's guys I can keep if I want. I
Speaker 2: don't remember who's on my team, and it is sa
Speaker 2: like fantasy football I'm sure it's still huge with a
Speaker 2: lot of people, and daily fantasy is is you know,
Speaker 2: still technically fantasy, but like, man the sport, I feel
Speaker 2: like the sports betting craze that has just you know
Speaker 2: exploded in recent years to where in most states across
Speaker 2: the country you can now bet on games from your
Speaker 2: house on your phone. I just think it's made it
Speaker 2: to where fantasy football is not as big of a
Speaker 2: priority for people, and that's kind of sad, Like I
Speaker 2: think there are so many in my league that it's
Speaker 2: not a priority as far as, like you know, they
Speaker 2: want to win. They're gonna set their roster, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna like just completely abandon their team and quit, but
Speaker 2: their Sunday is much more for what they're doing betting wise.
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm that's me. I'm I'm one of those
Speaker 2: same people, Like I could care less what happens in
Speaker 2: my fantasy league. To be honest with you, I mean,
Speaker 2: I hate to say that, like I want to win,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay the fee, or'm gonna pay the league
Speaker 2: to do and like I'm gonna try, but like I'm not
Speaker 2: losing a whole lot of sleep if team gets beat
Speaker 2: I'll be much more upset if my team ends up.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll be if my team that I bet
Speaker 2: on loses, because you know that's that's that's an act.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a direct result, right, I bet on
Speaker 2: it if I went and I win or lose. In
Speaker 2: fantasy football, there's not as much of a weekly like
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you win each week or lose
Speaker 2: each week. But you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But the draft, like these are my closest friends honestly
Speaker 2: for like as long as I can remember. Like people
Speaker 2: I grew up with, people that I have known since
Speaker 2: I was in like you know, elementary school. Now some
Speaker 2: of these people I'm still close with and talk to
Speaker 2: him just about every day. And there's some people that
Speaker 2: you know, moved away. I got a buddy, Chris, who
Speaker 2: now lives up in Ohio. He's coming back to h
Speaker 2: to be a part of the draft. Good buddy, Brad.
Speaker 2: He made the uh made the move not that long ago.
Speaker 2: I think he now lives Yeah, he lives in Lexing,
Speaker 2: which is crazy because he's one of the biggest level
Speaker 2: fans I know. And then there's some others that we
Speaker 2: just don't see as often. But like we're all gonna
Speaker 2: be together, and it's it has to be of everybody
Speaker 2: in this league. There's ten of us. I would, I
Speaker 2: mean this an you day where we get together, we draft,
Speaker 2: we pound beers, we eat like you know, animals, pizza
Speaker 2: wings that I mentioned beer, like we just you know,
Speaker 2: we have a day and it's the only day every
Speaker 2: year we're all ten of those individuals who all of them,
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all close. It's not like, oh we
Speaker 2: added a buddy that you don't know he's in the
Speaker 2: league this year. Like we've all known each other for
Speaker 2: no joke, probably over twenty years. So I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. But you know, it's a little it's not
Speaker 2: and it just makes me sad that like we're the
Speaker 2: draft is really the only reason we do it anymore.
Speaker 2: But hey, I'll stay in this league until I die
Speaker 2: if it means every year I get one day with
Speaker 2: my closest friends for you know, for life, to where
Speaker 2: we just you know, kids aren't there, our wives aren't there,
Speaker 2: and we love our wives and kids. But like it's
Speaker 2: it's a day for the fellas and that's needed. So
Speaker 2: I've got the six pick snake draft, so not liking
Speaker 2: my chances this year, I feel like I regret deciding
Speaker 2: to take the uh that middle because I I think
Speaker 2: there's a benefit to doing, like to being the tenth pick,
Speaker 2: to where you get double picks each time, because if
Speaker 2: you I feel like with the six pick and a
Speaker 2: snake draft, my best bet is to just build a
Speaker 2: good team of like solid guys, but like I'm not getting,
Speaker 2: you know, an elite guy. And I've consistently been probably
Speaker 2: the worst, if not one of the words I mean,
Speaker 2: I probably actually no, no, no, to think about it, I
Speaker 2: have some self awareness. I'm the worst guy in our league.
Speaker 2: I have been for the last couple of years. There
Speaker 2: was one year many years ago, and that's what's crazy
Speaker 2: is how long we've been doing this. There was a
Speaker 2: year that I finished like second or third, and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking there wasn't that long ago. That was ten years ago,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I bring all this up not because I think
Speaker 2: any of you give a flying rats ass about my
Speaker 2: fantasy football team, but a really good write up here
Speaker 2: from USA Today's for the Wind blog where they give
Speaker 2: you these these are things that have gone viral on
Speaker 2: the internet. TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, where there's non creative ideas
Speaker 2: for determining the fantasy football draft order. So this group here,
Speaker 2: it looks as if they did like a full on combine,
Speaker 2: you know, like you see in the NFL where you're
Speaker 2: doing like you know you're doing. Let's see here, you've
Speaker 2: got like well, actually no, it's not like something in
Speaker 2: the NFL like they do like a free throw shooting contest.
Speaker 2: Actually no, I'm sorry. It's like you're timed right a
Speaker 2: free throw and then you throw a football through a
Speaker 2: through a tire. Then you run and you make a putt.
Speaker 2: Here they have a pretty bad ass set up here.
Speaker 2: They got like a little putting green near their pool,
Speaker 2: so you putt and then after you put it in,
Speaker 2: let's see what else they do here. It's actually pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: After you put you then run to cornhole and I
Speaker 2: guess you have to make one in. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: see where this ends. How long does this last? You know,
Speaker 2: this is terrible live radio, But I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: now seeing the actual video of it for the first time.
Speaker 2: So again, a bunch of stuff like that, Right, make
Speaker 2: a basket, make a free throw, throw a football through
Speaker 2: a tire, make a putt knock one in corn hole,
Speaker 2: jump in the water and they're in ground pull. These
Speaker 2: guys got it set up pretty fricking sweet. And then
Speaker 2: you swim to the end, you know, swim one, you
Speaker 2: know one one. I don't know if it's a lab,
Speaker 2: but you swim, you know, from one end of the
Speaker 2: pool to the other. And then you get clocked to
Speaker 2: see how long you take. And again, fastest gets first pick,
Speaker 2: last you know, last place finish ends up getting the
Speaker 2: last pick. That's pretty cool, right, Like that's creative. This
Speaker 2: let's see here, this is these are dudes that just
Speaker 2: decided to straight up do a forty yard dash to
Speaker 2: determine like everybody's time. Let's say they got ten guys
Speaker 2: in the league fastest in the forty yard dash wins.
Speaker 2: I mean that's not really like who would agree if
Speaker 2: you know you're out of shape and you've got dudes
Speaker 2: in your league that aren't like, why would you agree
Speaker 2: to let that be how the draft goes? Right? I
Speaker 2: mean that that could be a little unfair. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: that to me seems uh, that to me seems seems
Speaker 2: kind of silly. This is cool. So Bruce Buffer, one
Speaker 2: of the Buffer brothers, you know the guys who are
Speaker 2: you know, known for being the ring announcers for boxing
Speaker 2: and UFC and just you know, the amount of money
Speaker 2: these guys get to just come and announce, you know,
Speaker 2: introduce people is pretty crazy. But apparently, uh he had
Speaker 2: it set up. Bruce Buffer did on his cameo page
Speaker 2: where you you know, he'll take requests to film a
Speaker 2: special video for your fantasy football leagues. And I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if this video that I'm about to play it
Speaker 2: is of that, but he does include that he will
Speaker 2: he'll pick the order randomly and announce it like so,
Speaker 2: you're the suspense is there. You're on the edge of
Speaker 2: your seat waiting for Bruce Buffer to deliver where you
Speaker 2: ended up coming in in the draft.
Speaker 7: Hello of you in the Boston Hoggin Fantasy Footbally. Congratulations
Speaker 7: to the chief for claiming the sp Trophy. Last here,
Speaker 7: your draft order picks first through ten are Joe Buck yourself.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn that down because I don't know if
Speaker 2: some of these team names he's about to unveil are
Speaker 2: appropriate for for radio airwaves. But very close Joe Buck yourself.
Speaker 2: I like that that's not a bad fantasy football team name.
Speaker 2: What else do we have any other good ones here?
Speaker 3: Are we?
Speaker 2: We? We always talk about the uh, the punishments that
Speaker 2: that are given out, those are those are pretty creative.
Speaker 2: But this is again just as far as like how
Speaker 2: you determine the order of the draft.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: This has turned the last place punishment as a way
Speaker 2: to determine the draft order. So their fantasy football last
Speaker 2: place last place punishment is a is a beer mile
Speaker 2: four quarter mile laps, one beer before each lap. Everyone
Speaker 2: else bets on finishing time. Draft order is determined by
Speaker 2: closest bets. That's pretty creative. Let's see any any any
Speaker 2: any others out there? And apparently there is is a
Speaker 2: website called draft orders dot com that will will let
Speaker 2: you get creative as far as how you want to
Speaker 2: do it. But yeah, fantasy football, I think it's slowly
Speaker 2: but surely not dying. But like it's just to the
Speaker 2: common football fan. I feel like it's just now that
Speaker 2: people can bet on sports, there's just not as much
Speaker 2: of fantasy football being a priority. But man again, I'll
Speaker 2: do it forever if it keeps me able to have
Speaker 2: that one day a year where the fellas we have
Speaker 2: a day to ourselves. Funny story that actually maybe you
Speaker 2: guys won't think it's funny, but it's real and it
Speaker 2: happened years ago one of my and this is how
Speaker 2: long we've been. This is how long we've been in
Speaker 2: this league together. Two of my friends that I grew
Speaker 2: up with were married. Now they're not, but they were married,
Speaker 2: you know, in the early stages of this league. And
Speaker 2: my buddy's wife and she's you know, I've known her
Speaker 2: probably longer than I've known him. But she truly thought
Speaker 2: fantasy football meant that we get together and do like cosplay,
Speaker 2: like we dress up like as as as fantasy football,
Speaker 2: I mean like she truly thought that it wasn't like
Speaker 2: a thing to be funny. Like when he would get
Speaker 2: together to do the draft, she thought like, like, I
Speaker 2: think he showed up on a Sunday from church, so
Speaker 2: he had his church clothes on, and she was like,
Speaker 2: how are you going to do your fantasy football in
Speaker 2: your church clothes? Honey? And like it was, I mean
Speaker 2: it was. It was crazy. Also, we had our draft
Speaker 2: one time at BEEFO. Brady's and we rented out like
Speaker 2: one of the party rooms, because they do that. Like
Speaker 2: that's it's actually probably a pretty profitable thing. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's super profitab but it's probably a good
Speaker 2: way to get people in the doors there, right, a
Speaker 2: big group of ten to twelve people, twenty people maybe
Speaker 2: for a draft. That's good for business. So they'll put they'll,
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to do your draft there,
Speaker 2: they'll give you sheets and all that, and they'll they'll
Speaker 2: welcome you to come in because you know, they want
Speaker 2: that's a big bill for a party of ten to
Speaker 2: twelve or maybe even more than that. But anyhow, we
Speaker 2: had a guy that you know, just showed up, sat
Speaker 2: down in our room, and like he was in there
Speaker 2: for I don't know, five ten minutes something like that
Speaker 2: before he realized he was in the wrong draft. And
Speaker 2: we're like, might know that guy, Like we had a
Speaker 2: new player is just like, you know, what do we
Speaker 2: what do we know? What do we? What are we
Speaker 2: doing here? But anyways, real quick, I got to play
Speaker 2: this before we go to break because I remember the
Speaker 2: fan you know, the fantasy football thing where like again
Speaker 2: I just mentioned my buddy's wife, thought like we dressed
Speaker 2: up as football players and acted like we you know,
Speaker 2: a fantasy we were fantasy football players. Quite literally never
Speaker 2: reminded me of the time Ted, the legendary caller from
Speaker 2: the Afternoon Underdogs, called in when John Bowle was guest hosting,
Speaker 2: and man, that was I mean, this is you know,
Speaker 2: this is, in my opinion, one of the best moments
Speaker 2: in sports radio history. Here in Louisville, John Bowl and
Speaker 2: Ted talking fantasy football, among other things.
Speaker 3: He said, how you doing seven ninety wkr D.
Speaker 6: We've been getting a poll today, getting a survey. But
Speaker 6: do you want to weigh in on this fantasy football thing?
Speaker 8: Well, I love Paul and I love fantasy so bring it,
Speaker 8: bring it to me. And I have to say, John,
Speaker 8: your hair is magnificent. I'll watch you every morning. And
Speaker 8: it's no Chris McGill. He is definitely the most underrated,
Speaker 8: underrated entertainer in the land with the best hair. Nobody
Speaker 8: brings up Chris. But I'm all asked away.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know that this is miners or not.
Speaker 6: He's on the air somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, why don't you Okay, why don't you tell
Speaker 1: me fantasy football or no?
Speaker 6: Do do you play it?
Speaker 8: Do you like it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why why do you still play it?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm to be honest, with you. I almost got
Speaker 8: our league this year because it does get Oh sometimes
Speaker 8: you have to just you know, throw something in there different.
Speaker 8: This year, we're going to dress up as some of
Speaker 8: the players this year when we are.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I missed Ed. I love that.
Speaker 6: I've heard that a couple of times. But that's good.
Speaker 2: Ted would call in and flirt with Tony and it
Speaker 2: it was, it was, I mean, it just made me.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember as a listener before I worked
Speaker 2: in radio, certainly before I worked here, and you know
Speaker 2: he Ted's a legend.
Speaker 5: Dan Towny, I am really scared that Kentucky is gonna
Speaker 5: go forty and oh and I just wish you would
Speaker 5: hold me close to your zone and rub my feathered
Speaker 5: hair with your slimmering bipets and tell me everything is
Speaker 5: gonna be okay because Walmart is gonna be unhearable.
Speaker 2: Shut out to Ted if you're listening, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not fishing for, you know, to be your next
Speaker 2: Tony because I could never live up to it, because
Speaker 2: you know, Tony's got those European thighs.
Speaker 5: John Daveed unless I have a comment on Kyle wheelchair, I.
Speaker 8: Mean his his lower body is not what needs lad
Speaker 8: I mean is his arms.
Speaker 5: They look like Popeye's wife arms, but his lower body.
Speaker 5: It kind of reminds me a lot of like how
Speaker 5: you have been, Tony, because you're you have very European thighs.
Speaker 2: Very European thighs on Tony Vinetti. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. People want more Ted and I get it.
Speaker 2: Ted was great. I mean, I say, like he's dead.
Speaker 2: He's not dead. I hope he's not dead, but he
Speaker 2: hasn't called in a long time. But that was good stuff.
Speaker 2: I could listen to it all day. But we will
Speaker 2: move on. We're going to talk some serious college football
Speaker 2: coming up here in about fifteen minutes. We're going to
Speaker 2: be joined by the one, the only, mister Zack Barnett
Speaker 2: of Football Scoop gonna get his thoughts on a variety
Speaker 2: of things as we get closer and closer. As I've
Speaker 2: been saying throughout the entire show today, this is our
Speaker 2: last weekend without college football, and that makes me very
Speaker 2: very excited. All right, So again I've talked about it
Speaker 2: here and there that I find myself having to kind
Speaker 2: of put myself in check when it comes to like
Speaker 2: being a whole because I don't think Louisville's being disrespected.
Speaker 2: I don't think that Louisville is, you know, being overlooked
Speaker 2: in a major way. I mean, they're not out, they're
Speaker 2: not ranked, and they're right outside. They're technically you know,
Speaker 2: they're the first place team of the unranked teams. Right
Speaker 2: because they're the first team, they have the most votes
Speaker 2: for teams that are that are not ranked, and that's
Speaker 2: honestly a little bit fair. However, there's at least one
Speaker 2: person who covers college football Pro Football Focuses, Max Chadwick.
Speaker 2: He believes Louisville is the biggest snub from the from
Speaker 2: the A people, which hey, you know, you know, as mentioned,
Speaker 2: you know who cares. But one of the things that
Speaker 2: does kind of have me triggered a little bit to
Speaker 2: kind of feel like, okay, no, wait a second, maybe
Speaker 2: they are being disrespected is when I see other ACC
Speaker 2: teams ranked ahead of them n C State, I at
Speaker 2: least get because Dave Dorian, I mean, he's he's a
Speaker 2: good coach and they do bring back, you know, a
Speaker 2: pretty good crew from a team last year that won
Speaker 2: eight sorry nine games that were nine and four, six
Speaker 2: and two in the league. Louisville was one of the
Speaker 2: only two teams that beat them, and they got better
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They got Grayson McCall, the guy who played
Speaker 2: at Coastal Carolina for quite some time. And what's wild
Speaker 2: is that n C State, if you remember, they won
Speaker 2: with bad quarterback play, Like they actually had a good
Speaker 2: year last year despite bad quarterbacks, right, I mean they
Speaker 2: The quarterback they put out there when Louisvill played him
Speaker 2: was awful. And then do you guys remember this, I'd
Speaker 2: forgot all about this. They had a quarterback who was
Speaker 2: thrown in there because of an injury, and he started MJ. Morris.
Speaker 2: He ended up being thrown out there as a young
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was a freshman, but he'd
Speaker 2: never never played before. But he started four games for
Speaker 2: NC State last year and they were winning. He looked
Speaker 2: like the future, but he decided to just transfer mid season.
Speaker 2: You met that story at all, John guy, young quarterback
Speaker 2: comes out, Do you remember that, and he just decided, Ya,
Speaker 2: thanks for letting me utilize the reps here and really
Speaker 2: show that I'm good, But now I'm out. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a little just.
Speaker 6: Like Shady's the right word but it felt like he
Speaker 6: was just taking advantage of him, and it was.
Speaker 2: A I mean, it was a reminder of hey, this
Speaker 2: is a different ballgame. Now they guys can do this,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So like you just have
Speaker 2: to be you know, commitments and loyalty, all that stuff
Speaker 2: south the window. So you know, they had a good
Speaker 2: year despite all that going on, and yet they got
Speaker 2: better at quarterback because again Grayson McCall, I mean from
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina. He's a three time sun Belt Player of
Speaker 2: the Year. So I don't think they're gonna be great. Well,
Speaker 2: we don't have to play them this year, but I
Speaker 2: can at least understan why they're getting some love. But Miami,
Speaker 2: Like how long can Miami keep this going on? How
Speaker 2: long can Miami continue to show every year that their
Speaker 2: ceiling is not high? I mean, Miami, you know they
Speaker 2: they had a great run long long ago, but like,
Speaker 2: how often have we heard about the U is the
Speaker 2: U back And I don't know if that's ever gonna happen,
Speaker 2: Like Miami, Like, how many years have we I mean,
Speaker 2: Miami's had many years where they were six wins, seven wins,
Speaker 2: sometimes they weren't even less than that. And they've never
Speaker 2: not had talent, right, Like, talent's never been a problem
Speaker 2: for Miami ever. And that's the same thing as being
Speaker 2: said this year. And yet they're coming off of a
Speaker 2: seven and six season, three and five in the ACC,
Speaker 2: a league that nobody respects, right, I mean, let's be real,
Speaker 2: the ACC doesn't get dead and get a whole lot
Speaker 2: of respect. Miami went three and five in that league
Speaker 2: last year, and yet they're once again a preseason top
Speaker 2: twenty team, Like people continue to believe in Miami when
Speaker 2: Miami has consistently shown you that, like the you being back,
Speaker 2: meaning like you know, in regards to national championship contenders,
Speaker 2: that's not real life, guys, it's just not. I mean,
Speaker 2: when Jimmy Johnson was there in the eighties, they were rolling. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Schnellenberger did a phenomenal job there, and then they were
Speaker 2: unbelievable and the early two thousands with Larry Koker. But
Speaker 2: like you know, Randy Shannon on Miami's ceiling is not
Speaker 2: like not elite. Mark Rick was there in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: In fact, Mark Rick was there for three years and
Speaker 2: they were good under Mark Rick nine and four and
Speaker 2: then they were really good in the second season when
Speaker 2: they went ten and three, and that's when it felt like, okay,
Speaker 2: the U might be might be back because Mark Rick's
Speaker 2: a good coach. But then of course she had to
Speaker 2: step down because of health issues. That following season they underachieved,
Speaker 2: went seven and six and four and four. That was
Speaker 2: when actually the turnover chain debuted for Miami. That was
Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun. But like under Many
Speaker 2: Diaz six and seven, eight and three, seven and five,
Speaker 2: Crystal Ball five and seven, seven and six, like they
Speaker 2: may be a good team, good enough team to you know,
Speaker 2: make a Bowl game again, have a winning record in
Speaker 2: the league, But like people who still put them in
Speaker 2: the top twenty every year and look at them as
Speaker 2: a potential, Oh, they could be back this year based
Speaker 2: off what I mean, the formula's kind of been the
Speaker 2: same for them for decades now, and their ceiling is yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe borderline ranked team. And yet and I don't know,
Speaker 2: think Kim Ward he's got a chance to be a
Speaker 2: special quarterback for them. He can throw it all over
Speaker 2: the field. He's got a crazy resume as far as stats.
Speaker 2: But like they're getting the benefit of the doubt when
Speaker 2: they've proven not to be worthy of it, Whereas I
Speaker 2: feel like Louisville is coming off a ten win season
Speaker 2: and a good coach and another great haul on the
Speaker 2: transfer portal, and people still just assume Miami is going
Speaker 2: to be better. When Miami lost to Louisville last year
Speaker 2: at home, fires me up. John, all right, we'll talk
Speaker 2: some more football coming up here. On the other side,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined by Zack Barnett of football Scoop.
Speaker 2: Five o'clock hour on a Friday. Let's have some fun, folks,