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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks.

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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 2: Innes Sea Hockey Live. It's once again time. In fact,

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it is the last time. I believe. This is our

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thirty second team preview. Victor, we're getting over the finish line.

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You appear to not be a sweating exhausted. I haven't

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seen you collapse yet. You seem to still be hydrated.

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How you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I am a hologram of myself because I'm so exhausted,

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so I'm glad it looks like I'm okay. But yeah,

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this has been a marathon. It's a labor of love.

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We love doing it, but it is a lot going

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through all thirty two teams, and we are happy to

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be done, and we'll be doing some catch up stuff after.

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No worries. I know that some teams, some players moved

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around teams and it's all good. We'll get to that.

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But yeah, it's awesome to put a bow on this.

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And none, no, no, than your team Jesse Washington Capitals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing Yeah, I'm doing good Man. And did

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I mention he's ep ring sides Victor Nuno. I don't

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know if I did, and I should because you have

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written about I don't know if you've written about a

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ton of capitals, but like a lot of the guys

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we talked about, you've written good articles on people how

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to subscribe and go read those things. But yeah, man,

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I'm good, I'm good. I'm it's feeling good to be

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through this series. But you know what it never stops

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for is Victor, because we just want to start the conversation.

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We want others to continue it. We want people to

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go back and forth on it, and they can do

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that in our discord, which you can get a invite

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to if you just hit us up. It's free. We're

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not really gay keepers. We won't ask you trivia questions.

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There'll be no major impediments to your being able to join,

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other than your a bill to either reach us on

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compose an electronic mail to Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail

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dot com. Those are the only two ways. I don't

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know if you could find us, if you can catch

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Victor on the street. Have you ever seen Victor? If

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you don't know what Victor looks like, picture Albert Pooholtz.

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That is exactly what Victor looks like. If you know

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the baseball player Albert Pooholds, if you see Albert Pooholtz

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on the street, odds are Albert Pooholtz is very famous.

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You're probably not going to see him, but you might

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be looking at Victor Nuno Victor. Is that the way

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that I should introduce you? And what else is going

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I don't know that I would agree

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with that, but I'm happy to look like or resemble

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in any way Albert Pooholds. I don't. I'm sure that

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I cannot hit a baseball like he can or anywhere

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close to that, but I'm happy for that comparison. No,

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Speaker 2: You jarned right there is and right after this we're

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going to come back and we're going to talk about

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the Washington Capitals. Victor. It's time for the Washington Capitals.

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And unlike all the other thirty one team previews, this

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was just going to be you and me, not because

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of any special expertise, but frankly because I'm exhausted and

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I like talking about the Capitals anyway, you know what,

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I just want to say this. I know I don't

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hide the fact that the Washington Capitals of the team

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I follow most closely. I love watching Locker and jb it,

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but I think I can maintain a certain impartiality slash

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critical opinion toward the Washington Capitals. And it starts with

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the team preview statement. I don't know what to do

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with the Washington Capital season last year. I looked it up.

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I actually subscribed to a month of Statthead to be

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able to dwell and wallow in some of these stats.

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A negative thirty seven goal differential last year victory for

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the Capitals. On the season, they had six goals or

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more in eleven contests. There has been no team with

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a negative thirty goal differential to make the playoffs since

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nineteen ninety five until last year, and the Caps were

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thirty seven underwater. That's just dogg on insane. And we

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all know the NHL lets everybody in the playoffs. All

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you have to do is really show up and win

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a couple games and you're in the playoffs. It was

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unreasonable that the Capitals made it in Nobody makes it

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in with that type of stat I joked in the

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playoffs that it was pretty impressive also for the Hershey

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Bears to make both the NHL Playoffs and win the

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Calder Cup in the same year, because it felt like

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there were some JV guys coming in. As the playoffs

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went along, the Capitals were reaching into that depth. It

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was one of those years where you felt following the

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team like, would it have been better just to have

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missed the playoffs and maybe get a chance at celebrating

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the demodof what one of those other elite picks, maybe

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just get lucky instead of being meet for the Rangers

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in the first round. I don't know, but it definitely

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is a turning of the calendar for the Capitals. They

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are not They are not tanking, There's no doubt about that.

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but some of the guys who are going away who

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definitely were long in the tooth or it's it's those days,

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Nick Bastrom, I think it's officially unofficially done. Tg Oshi,

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I know we're going to talk about later. I don't

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think he's ever gonna put on a sweater for the

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Caps again, except except in ceremonies on the theoretical starting

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goalie of the last couple of years. Starcy Kemper has gone.

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Longtime defenseman Nick Jensen has gone. Max Pacioretti has not resigned.

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I don't know that Max Pacioretti, I think is running

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on fumes. I don't think he's coming back to the Caps.

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And then even during the season, if Ganny kuznets Off,

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Anthony Mantha, Joel Edmondson all departed, most of the elite

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team that won the Stanley Cup has now basically moved

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on there aside from a couple of the stalwarts we're

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going to talk about, but a lot of the guys

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who've played a ton of minutes are gone. I think

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in one sentence, Victor, I'm going to try to do

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this in one sentence, Apps takes step back all that's

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going to be my one sentence preview of what the

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Caps are going to be. What do you think if

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you had to someone up this is a pop quiz.

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I wrote it up here though, how would you sum

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up the Capitals the seasons? Last season?

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Speaker 1: To come Caps help OV get record. That's it. That's

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what they did last year. That's what they're doing. This year.

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little bit of potential improvement. Some of them obviously, or

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some good players that aren't coming back as you mentioned,

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or might not be coming back, but they brought in

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some interesting players that could work out well. We've seen

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PLD have some good play, some relevance. We've seen Mangiapani

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score a fair number of goals, and Strom has been

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a revelation for them, so he could continue. Connor McMichael

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arguably took a step forward, a big step forward. There's

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some interest there. Hendrix Lapierre looks like the player. So

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they don't have the best prospect pool, but they have

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some guys that have come along. Actually, when I was

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talking with Shane molloy at the draft, he was telling

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me how the capital is E mean, I think so.

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But they are one of the best teams at drafting

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in terms of getting NHL games out of players, So

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they're actually really good from that standpoint. Maybe they're not

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the most exciting players or the most fantasy relevant players,

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but they are good at drafting and getting guys to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Victor. We every year we ranked

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this system like thirtieth or something like that, and yet

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multiple calder Cups, a whole lot of games, and they

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have been drafting for upside the last couple of years.

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We're going to talk about some of those guys, and

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some of those guys are making the NHL and they

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have some amazing prospects to keep your eye on prospect

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When we talk about in the dig I'm like, Wow,

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this is one of the better keep your eye on

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prospects I feel like we talk about in this series.

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But yeah, absolutely, Victor. But I don't know some old

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random guy who were going to start talking about. In

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terms of the players on this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time that Alexovechkin has been

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the best player on the team, and he arguably is

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not now, but we're still going to start with him

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for old time sake. And his zero point three to

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nine goals per game last season twenty three, three, twenty

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four were his worst since the twenty ten to eleven season,

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that is a long time ago, twelve seasons ago. And

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he scored thirty two goals and seventy nine games play

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last season. That's a really good season for a lot

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of people, but it was his down season. Despite that,

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down season, The soon to be thirty nine year old

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is just forty one goals away from Gretzky's all time record.

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You have to imagine the Caps are going to do

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everything they can to help him break it. Forty one

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doesn't seem that long, considering he's done well over that

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many times. So Jesse, do you think he's going to

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get forty one this season? And what else is he

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going to be able to do along with that? Is

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he going to get past the sixty seven point pace

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that he had last season, which was also the lowest

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mark that he has had in terms of a point

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pace in his entire career.

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Speaker 2: Pic sure you remember in Kobe's last season, Kobe Bryant

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went for seventy points near the end of his career,

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and he was basically a sink on the Lakers at

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that point, but he made there. At Ovechkin's got a

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little more juice left, I think than Kobe did then.

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But I think it is going to be one of

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those things where they are going to do everything to

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get Obi the puck, to get him to get that record.

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And I was saying last year or the year before,

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I didn't know if he would get to the record.

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Now I actually think he will and I think he

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may well get it this year. The only question really

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is health because Ovechkin so s thirty over the years.

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Actually actually he only missed three games, but it felt

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like there were some injury things he was dealing with

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more than Ovechkin normally does. So yeah, we'll see, but

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I think I'm in favor of he might just cross

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that record this year. And you talk about selling out games,

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that is going to be that is going to be amazing,

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is going to keep people glued if we get there,

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people glued into hockey in April watching Capitals games. Let's

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talk about the guy who actually led the team in

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scoring last year. In the last twenty years, there have

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been four players that led the team in scoring, and

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they're exactly the ones you would think they did. And

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I'm talking about individual season scoring. Ovechkin, Backstrom obvious who's

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nets off and John Carlson probably the next two guesses

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you would have had in terms of guys that had

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done that, all heroes of that twenty eighteen Cup team.

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The change into the guard in some ways indicated by

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the fact that Dylan Strom broke into that group. So

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he is the leading scorer on the team sixty seven

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points with twenty seven goals forty assists. Obviously, that was

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his career high by just a couple over the prior year.

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He's simply been a great addition to this offense. He's

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just flourished with the Capitals, just as the experienced center

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depth was melting way. He fit in like a glove.

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Eleven of Ovi's goals last year came on Strom assists

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about a third of them. That was certainly part of

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the process there. The bash with Strom is minimal. If

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you're looking from a fantasy perspective, that is a serious flaw.

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sixty seven guy who played all eighty two games, and

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he only takes two shots a game. That's not as

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valuable as you would hope for. And if you hadn't,

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if you still somehow have it in your mind that

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the Capitals have an above average power play, they don't.

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It is a little bit better last year, but we're

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still talking a little bit in the bottom half of

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a power play right now. I don't know. He is

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actually the best face off guy of the returning players,

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a way above fifty percent on face off. If you're

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playing in that type of a league, that's good. And

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only five million for a power play one line, one

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centerman who's going to be able to play with Olvatchkin

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in the salary league is nice. But Victor, I don't know.

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I have been pleased with strong A certainly limitations to

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his game. I don't see that role changing last year.

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I really don't see the production changing a ton. What

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do you think of this guy on the Caps.

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Speaker 1: I think he's definitely arguably their best player, as you mentioned,

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and he has gotten much better defensively. That has never

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been his strong suit. He's never been a defensive star

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war but I think he has been and has needed

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to be been able to carry the mail at both ends,

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and that has happened, and I think has really helped

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his point numbers because he's better than average now defensively

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and arguably quite good, and so he's able to get

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a little bit more ice time, and I think that's

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that's always key. We talk about that for players. He

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had the most averageized time he's ever had last season,

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so that trickles into a little bit more points. I

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am a little bit worried too about the assists. As

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you mentioned, OVI obviously is turnding down, but there's I

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think there's going to be more excitement this season than

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ever to get him that record. Only being forty one

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away last season seemed like a slog and it seemed

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like there was a really like there was obviously still

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a lot of help to try to and encouragement to

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try to get there, but it wasn't gonna happen. Last season.

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We knew that that was too far away. But this season,

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I think with all the fanfare and likelihood that it

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could happen, I think there'll be more help there. So

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I'm a little bit worried about the assist but I

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think he can get there, and I think that he's

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had consistently sixty seven, sixty six, sixty seven points. The

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shooting percentage was a little bit hot last season, and

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so that makes you a little bit worried, but the

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other indicators I think are pretty much in line. He

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wasn't cooking hot on PDO or power play IPP or

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any of the other things that we look at. So

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I think he can be around seventy points again, and

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especially because I do think there's a little bit more

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help around him. Even though we don't know exactly how

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things are going to go for PLD. But there's a

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little bit more scoring help too, with guys like Manjia Pani,

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who they didn't really have a whole lot of that

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in the past. I think that there's a little bit

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more surrounding talent which should help him stay in that

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seventy point range. It seemed like he was an island

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not there before. So I'm pretty optimistic on stro actually,

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and I think that he could. He'd be definitely someone

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to be of interest, and I think it's a little

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less confusing this year too, with Backstrom pretty clearly out

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of the way. I think last couple of seasons there

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was still like some hope and some lack of clarity

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on who was exactly the guy. And I think it's

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pretty clearly him at this point, So that's good. Let's

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talk about the guy we've referenced a couple of times now,

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Pierre Luke Dubois. We talked about him in the LA

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episode and his dreadful forty point season we talked about

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with We talked about how he seems really disinterested at

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the time, and a lot of that lack of production

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was on him, but some of it was on the Kings,

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and obviously the Capitals trade for him and they trade

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their starting goalie, so it was pretty big piece they

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take on a big cap hit. There's certainly there you

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would imagine have to be a pretty significant role for

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him with that kind of cap hit, and the Caps,

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unlike the Kings, don't really have a couple of two

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or three really strong centers to put in front of him.

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It's basically just Strom. I can't imagine he's not playing

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second line minutes, so his minutes should go up back

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to the eighteen point range, I would imagine. But how

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do you think this season's going to go for PLD?

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Do you think he can get past that sixty point

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pace and get all that bash that we've grown to

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know and love.

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Speaker 2: What the heck with PLD? Talk about having a complete

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wild card coming on your team. Pierre Luteois could be excellence,

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he could be he could be disappointment. There's a reason

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there was even a reason that there was talk about

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Pod getting bought out or something by the Kings before

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this all happened. But luckily one team traded their cap

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anchor for another team's cap anchor. Will hope for the best.

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I did read one thing that I found fascinating on

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the Great NB website, and that was that apparently Pierre

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Lukedabla loves playing with Russians, back to the time that

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he played with our Timmy Pineren on Columbus. He loves

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the style of game that some of those Russian guys had.

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So why don't we get him out there with Ovi

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and Morosnatchenko and just see what happens. What the heck,

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I don't know if they can play those areas of wings,

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but that's what it takes to unlock Peeld. Let's try everything,

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because when this guy's activated, he is a great fantasy

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player and he can be very useful for fantasy. If

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you ask me to predict, I would say the chances

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are better that he will be a disappointment, then he

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will be a thrill ride for the Capitals. But hope

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springs eternal. Next up, Victor, we're going to talk about

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Tommy Wilson. It has been three years and six months

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since Tom Wilson's last suspension. I think it should be

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like one of those signs how many days it's been

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since the last accident in a workplace. Three years and

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six months since Tom Wilson's life suspension. So I just

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assume everybody is happy with him now and loves him,

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including Victor. But here's the deal with Tom Wilson. His

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odometer rolled over to thirty last spring, A seven year

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extension is kicking in this year, and with this physical

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game that he plays, the mileage is there. I'm worried

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about a six point five million dollars hit, even though

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not unreasonable for a guy who's been talked about potentially

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as a future captain for this team. When Ovechkin finally goes,

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he remains somewhat productive, but there has been declined in

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his stats. If you haven't noticed, his hitting rate, which

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has been the centerpiece of Tom Wilson's game, has actually

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declined over the years. He threw two hundred and twenty

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eight last year, so you might not realize it, but

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the rate per minute, if you look at the rate

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per minute of hits that he's had throughout his career

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the last four years are dead at the bottom, and

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his mid twenty ten spree of violence featured about twice

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the raid of hits that he's getting out there now.

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He's just playing more minutes He put up career highs

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in blocks and shots last year, which was interesting that

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maybe that's becoming part of his game, But his scoring

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has slumped under half a point per game for the

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first time since the twenty seventeen eighteen Cup year. Victor,

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why is Tom Wilson your favorite hockey player? And will

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you be joining me in picking him for this year's

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Lady Bing Trophy?

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Speaker 1: Those are both gaslighting questions, so I'm just going to

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move past them. But no, I think that he is.

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His value obviously always came from the really strong priffs,

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but what made him more even more interesting was that

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he could get over a fifty point pace. But he

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didn't do that last season, and it seems like that

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might be in the past because those the team around him,

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the context around him, as we've been alluding to, has

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taken a real nose dive, and so I'm not really

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sure how many points there are to go around. He

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has still been getting what you would want in terms

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of the best deployment on the team. He is still

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playing with OVI most of the time. He is playing

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with their chop line center fair amount, which is Dylan Strom.

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So you would imagine there's still the good opportunity in

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terms of what he can muster out of that. He's

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never had the most power play time, but he actually

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has had the second He had the second most amount

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of power play time last season and didn't do a

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ton with it. And power play points actually boosted his

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point pace up to thirty nine point pace, which is

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pretty sad. If he didn't have those, if he had

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more of the average power play points that he had previously,

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he would have been more like a thirty four point pace.

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It would have been even more disappointing. So that's I

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think this idea that Wilson is someone who can get

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pretty decent amount of points with all those priffs is

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probably we need to change our perspective because I don't

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see him getting back to those levels. I think he's

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going to continue to have pretty good prifs, as you mentioned,

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a little trend down and it hits per sixty, but

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the overall value of his is going to change a

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little bit. There's still be worth it, still be a

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valuable piece someone that you can especially in categories leagues

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where you can rely on him to stuff those categories,

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and really good walks for forward as well that actually

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went up quite a bit, still valuable, but not exactly

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the same. So I think we have to change our

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perspective a little bit on Wilson. All right, Jesse, I'm

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going to give you a little bit of a points

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pick him here, So Andrew Manjiapani, the new guy coming

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into town, and Sunny Milano who's been there for a

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while now. And Manjiapani's point five to three points per

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game would have been third on the Capitols. That's that

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would be pretty nice. He had forty three and forty

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four point pace in his last two seasons in Calgary.

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Previously he had a fifty five point pace, so that

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was all pretty exciting if you could get back to

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that number, but who knows about that. He did have

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the thirty five goals in twenty twenty one twenty two,

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which was pretty pretty outstanding. Milano, for his part, He's

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average of forty point pace the last three seasons with Anaheim,

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where he had quite a bit more time on ice,

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and the last two with the Capitals, where he had

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a little bit less. So, Jesse, who are you taking here?

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I think I'm.

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Speaker 2: Taking manchia Pani. That's a very interesting guy to be

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arriving on your team, and even though his contract expiring

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this year, it's actually three times that of Milano, so

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one would expect he probably will get some more opportunities

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there of a similar age. So I think the bread

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Eater is my man here, just to see if he

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can recapture some of the glory that he had in

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better years in Calgary. Certainly, his context in Calgary last

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year was anything but ideal, as Calgary had a bit

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of a down year. So let's see what happens with him.

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I have expectations within reason, but I'd be very pleased

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with a fifty point season out of Monte Pani if

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I could get him. It's something like that value one

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more of these Pickham's Victor. We've got Alexi Protas, We've

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got Hendrik Slapierre. Protas has far more NHL games now

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one hundred and sixty nine versus fifty seven for la Pierre.

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He's a year older than Hendrix, not quite as long

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as you would think. It feels like Protass has been

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around a bit longer. Lapier's scoring rate is far better,

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and he's got yet more championship experience with Hershey. Crucially,

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Lapierre's projection as at least a centerman possibly. I feel

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like there's a greater likelihood that Lapierre has a significant

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role on the third line or even potentially the second line,

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then that Protas could get up to those areas. I

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see him more with his physicality down on that fourth line.

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So for fantasy purposes, not so great and neither are

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big on Bash. So Protash is a guy more on

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my distant watch list, while Lapierre, I think, is a

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guy who's getting ready to break in and be a

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significant member of these capitals, probably one of the better

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hopes for the future that they developed in and really

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was a high upside swing. What do you think, Victor

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Protash or Lapierre.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to go Lapierre for me. I think

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that there are a couple of reasons for that. One

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of the fun fun facts here is that the capital's

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actually drafted Alexa Protest his little brother Bill yet Protest.

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That was pretty fun. He's also huge, just like Alexa,

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he's six foot four. They're both Bella Russian. One thing

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that might be a little bit more interesting about the

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brother is that he's actually really young for this draft year,

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and he produced in the USHL. So keep an eye

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on that as he develops, and being in part of

476
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:40,599
the same organization and have a big brother to help

477
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,599
you through some of that, navigate through some of that

478
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,200
could be really good for him. But in terms of Alexey,

479
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,160
I agree with you. I think he's more just that

480
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:51,440
he's a really good, solid bottom six forward who can

481
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,920
protect the puck and throw some hits that kind of stuff.

482
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,400
But I'm not sure that he's ever going to be

483
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,240
a big score to this state. His career point pace

484
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,559
is twenty six and that's what I expect of him,

485
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:06,079
maybe chip in five to maybe ten on a good

486
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,200
year goals and the assists are probably just overdouble that,

487
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,200
so maybe he can get twenty twenty five assists, So

488
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,240
pretty low point totals, I would say there for alex Say,

489
00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:17,880
that's not really going to be his bread and butter.

490
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,920
And when you look at his underlyings, he's pretty average

491
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,880
defensively and actual goals outweigh his expected scoring. So that's

492
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:29,480
never what you want to see in terms of someone

493
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:33,559
maybe deserving a little bit more. On the other hand, Lapierre,

494
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:38,319
he now he's someone who actually has the opposite and

495
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,720
so he had quite a bit more expected goals and

496
00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,480
he converted on last season, and it was his first

497
00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:47,400
full season fifty one. He didn't play all the games,

498
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960
with fifty one games thirty five point pace, so he

499
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,880
actually and he actually deserved a little bit more scoring

500
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,920
than that. Potentially there's more upside there. His defensive game

501
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,000
is a little bit worse, so getting the amount of

502
00:25:58,039 --> 00:25:59,599
time on ice is going to be the issue. But

503
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:02,799
I think there's more upside with Lapierre, and I think

504
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,359
that it's not clear whether he'll get there, but I

505
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,119
think he has a little bit more potential. So he's

506
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,519
the one that I would take there. Let's go to

507
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,880
Conor McMichael, the last guy that we're going to talk about,

508
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,119
and yeah, he finally had the big breakout season that

509
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,680
we were hoping for in terms of the number of

510
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,079
games played. He played eighty games and that was a lot.

511
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,400
His thirty four point pace may not seem that inspiring,

512
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,720
but he his ice time grew tremendously. He had just

513
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:33,000
on her hair, sixteen minutes fifteen fifty nine average time

514
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:36,240
on ice. His defensive impacts were not great, but maybe

515
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,079
that was partially the team effect around him. He also

516
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,279
converted on a more goals than expected, so maybe there's

517
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,400
some regression there. But Jesse, what do you think about McMichael.

518
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,400
Is he going to stay under that forty point pace

519
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:48,039
or do you think he can climb over that maybe

520
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:49,440
all the way up to around fifty.

521
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,559
Speaker 2: I think fifty is within range. He's continued to mature.

522
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,680
He seems to be appropriate for this level. If you're

523
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,880
expecting to start out of this guy, I think you're

524
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,720
making a bit of a mistake. But especially he's been

525
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,000
able to play some on the wing. That's probably what

526
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:08,440
he's going to need to be able to do. And

527
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,960
there's certainly openings in the Caps top six, so I

528
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,599
think that's very much within range for him, but not

529
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:20,160
necessarily a star upside here. And I think you had

530
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,359
next Victor updates on Max Patcher ready Tjoshi. I really

531
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,839
don't see one of them coming to pass TJ battling

532
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:33,720
with back problems. The team has only a little bit

533
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:38,440
of cap and it, frankly, I think it unfortunately. Some

534
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:40,759
of the moves that they made makes me think that

535
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:44,119
they're expecting TJ to be on the LTIR so that

536
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,440
they have the flexibility to do some of the things

537
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,519
this year. But out of respect to him and he

538
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,400
is an expiring contract year. This year they will see

539
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,839
what he is able to do. Yeah, and Max Patcheria,

540
00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:58,680
I think is none. Do you have more optimism that

541
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:01,000
one of these two guys is going to be rocking

542
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:01,759
the Red this year?

543
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,519
Speaker 1: I'm not really I don't. I haven't followed it as closely.

544
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,400
I think that TJ is the kind of guy who

545
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,480
is gonna want to play no matter what, even when

546
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,720
his body isn't cooperating. So I think he's gonna try

547
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,000
do everything he can to, but I'm not sure that

548
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,079
it's going to work. And Patriretti, on the other hand,

549
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,440
I don't know. That's been more of a mystery and

550
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,440
I'm not really sure what's going to happen there. But

551
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960
he also seems like he hasn't been anywhere near himself

552
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,839
the last several seasons, so I'm not sure that there's

553
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,799
any reason for optimism there. But I think it's the

554
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,599
kind of thing where maybe I think Patriretti is someone

555
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,640
that I'd be more interested in stashing and seeing if

556
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,559
there's any hope later, because he's someone who if he's

557
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,519
out there, he's probably going to be in a shooters

558
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,319
role and could get some power play time and score

559
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,240
some goals. So that's but I'm not really optimistic on

560
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,039
either of them, and that would probably just be like

561
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,039
a really like late play that you might do just

562
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:54,440
to stash someone and see what happens. I'm not banking

563
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
on any games played for either of these two.

564
00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Over to the blue line, and we start with the

565
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,079
good news. John Carlson just keeps quietly plugging along. Fifty

566
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,799
two points last year in eighty two games, and that

567
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,240
might seem paltry by last year's defenseman standards or before

568
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:13,039
some defensemen were getting over a point per game. Carlson's

569
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:16,519
definitely out of that conversation now. But Carlson actually played

570
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,440
the most regular season minutes of his career last year

571
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,759
twenty one to twenty three runner up year was eighty nine. Wait,

572
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,839
let me do math. That would be one minutes less

573
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,400
minutes fewer than he had last year. Pretty amazing. In

574
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:35,839
twenty one to twenty three minutes last year topp to

575
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,759
NHL skaters, So that's pretty impressive for the thirty four

576
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680
year old. He took two shots, two and a half blocks,

577
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,839
and a hit per game. He's down to two years

578
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,920
on that big contract. Bash obviously, excellent. One has to

579
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,880
think he's eventually a candidate for a heartbreaking trade. It

580
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,359
depended on how the Capitals have to retool, or maybe

581
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160
the Capitals keep him around and get him on a

582
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:04,079
more gently declining contract. But one wonders if the hard

583
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,920
reset comes in after the resolution comes what either, Well,

584
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,680
Vechkin sets the record or it's pretty clear he's not

585
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,039
going to set the record. Whether Carlson could move out

586
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:15,759
as they moved on a lot of guys who have

587
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:18,920
been long term parts of the team. Victor, I know

588
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,839
the point total is down, one would think that there's

589
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,759
a good chance it could flex back up. And with

590
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,480
that bash, is Victor Carlson a very back end d

591
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:30,440
one for you in a twelve team league.

592
00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know who Victor Carlson is, but he might

593
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,000
be related to John or something. I'm not sure.

594
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,039
Speaker 2: He is the cross of Albert Pooholtz and John Carlson.

595
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,279
Speaker 1: Wow, he sounds like a great athlete. Yeah, John Carlson,

596
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,200
I think that you have to still be happy with him,

597
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440
and there's obviously some concern that he's going to get

598
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,440
some time eaten into his role from a guy we're

599
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,839
going to talk about a couple of guys we're going

600
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,079
to talk about in a little bit, so that's a

601
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,559
little bit of the concern. But he still is mister

602
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,200
Stout back there. He has obviously the reputation and he's

603
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,920
been doing it for a long time. So I think

604
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,119
that you'd be pretty happy with him as a one

605
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,519
D in the twelfth team league. I don't know that

606
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,759
i'd be super happy with that. I would much rather him.

607
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,680
I would much rather have someone else as my top D.

608
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,759
But I do think that he could be very serviceable,

609
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,519
and if he was, I think you just would have

610
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,319
to have another, some stronger second or third defenseman on

611
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,000
your team. But I would be really happy with him

612
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000
as the second defenseman. That would proride a lot of value.

613
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:33,960
He still has some pretty decent upside all of the

614
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,640
scoring and the bash continues to be pretty solid as well,

615
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,359
and they're still going to have a dangerous power play

616
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,079
that he's going to be a part of, at least

617
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,519
to some extent. So I think you'd still have to

618
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,839
be pretty happy. But as you said, those days of

619
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,319
like super high upside are not there. But I think

620
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:53,680
fifty sixty points is still well within reach for him.

621
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160
I'm also interested to see how some of his even

622
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
strength deployment changes. He was playing and has been playing

623
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:03,000
ridiculous minutes and he's going to be thirty five this season.

624
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:06,039
He played the most average time on ice he ever

625
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:09,359
has this past season, almost twenty six minutes. That's I

626
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,160
think he needs a little bit less of an even

627
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,000
strength role, and I think they have the personnel to

628
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,680
allow that to happen a little bit better this season.

629
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960
We'll have to see about that that I hope will

630
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
help him be a little bit more effective on the

631
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,400
power plan and have a little bit more of a

632
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,640
run there. Okay, I alluded to some of the other

633
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,880
defensemen that they have here, and we're not necessarily going

634
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,240
to talk about all of them, but Ferivari, TVR Matt

635
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,920
Roy I think is going to be an exceptional piece

636
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,799
that helps the overall decor not necessarily someone that I

637
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,039
think is that we think is super fantasy relevance. So

638
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:44,440
we're not going to talk about them, but I think

639
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,519
that should help everyone else have a little bit lighter

640
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:50,119
load to lift. But Jacob Chickeran is someone that we're

641
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,759
going to talk about, and he's someone who obviously has

642
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,559
had some pretty interesting seasons back when he was in Arizona,

643
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,640
we were all just hoping that he would go somewhere

644
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,880
else and have a little bit more relevance, and it

645
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,759
didn't necessarily happen that way. He did have a big

646
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:10,319
uptick that partial season with Arizona Ottawa, but in Ottawa

647
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,400
it didn't seem to quite go as well for him,

648
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,319
and obviously there's a crowd to blue line for power

649
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:18,000
play time, but he still had his strong peripherals and

650
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:21,000
he still had a pretty okay scoring forty one point

651
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,440
pace what he had there. I think the question is

652
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,880
can he get back up to being closer to a

653
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,920
fifty point pace even though he's not necessarily having the

654
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,480
most power play timinized, he still had a decent number

655
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,119
of minutes. It just wasn't necessarily with the top unit,

656
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:36,279
and I'm not sure that's going to happen here. But

657
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:40,680
he does have some really strong value in those peripheral leagues.

658
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,799
So I think that the issue there here is that

659
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:45,119
there's a high floor. It's just a matter of how

660
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,359
high the ceiling is. Jesse, how high do you think

661
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,960
the ceiling is for Jacob Chickern And do you agree

662
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,720
that the floor is still pretty high.

663
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,799
Speaker 2: I guess the floor is high given the bash there.

664
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,519
I act feel like Chickeran is a guy who had

665
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,519
one career year. He was the flavor of the month.

666
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:02,559
He was young, he was on a team where it

667
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:06,680
seems he would be available in Arizona, and then he

668
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,440
was the bell of the ball. And I don't know

669
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,800
that he's going to achieve that level now. If he's

670
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,119
out there with John Carlson this year, that could be

671
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,920
a very good thing, and he could have that high

672
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,239
floor thing. But I'm really not looking for sealing out

673
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,159
of Jacob Chickerin, and I wonder whether the Capitals will

674
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,000
be able to keep him around after this year. I

675
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:29,400
guess part of it will depend also on whether John

676
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,079
Carlson remains a Capital at that point, and Matt Roy

677
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,800
is going to be around for a while, and another

678
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,880
guy he's being paid more than is Rasmus Sandan. Actually,

679
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:45,199
Rasmus was the second most quote important defenseman on the

680
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,840
team by usage and actually got a lot of minutes

681
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,480
with Carlson last year. That's according to the Hockey Viz

682
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,440
determinations of these things. He certainly played plenty of minutes

683
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,079
in the times he was able to get out there.

684
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:01,119
He's not a scoring threat though. What we're missing with

685
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,079
Sandying he doesn't get the power play time, but he's

686
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,000
settled into that long term role with the team. I

687
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:10,280
think he's going to remain My thought was Sandyin he's

688
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,199
going to remain a top four defenseman with minimal scoring

689
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,760
and not necessarily much for Bash. He'll get some things,

690
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,360
but not probably to the level of some of the

691
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,159
other guys in this team, so he's probably not going

692
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,360
to be a target. Maybe he'll be the new Dimitri

693
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:27,760
Orloff with fewer points. Dimitri was never a guy I

694
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,280
was that excited about trying to get in fantasy. I

695
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,360
don't know my too low on rast with Sandein Victor.

696
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,199
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have been hoping to

697
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,320
get him out of Toronto and get him a bigger

698
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,360
role and see what he can do with more time

699
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,840
on ice. But as we also say, that bigger role

700
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,639
and more time on ice doesn't always equal more production

701
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,840
and better better stats, and I think this is a

702
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,639
really good example of that. I often thought saw him

703
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,239
in a limited role in Toronto and kept saying, well,

704
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,880
let's he could do so much more with more opportunity.

705
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,920
He didn't necessarily have more power play opportunity, but he

706
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,039
did have a lot more even straight time on ice

707
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,239
the last two seasons, and he had previously. I mean,

708
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,199
he was averaging the first couple of seasons in Toronto

709
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,639
closer to fifteen minutes, and then he went up past

710
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,320
nineteen and even twenty last season, and the impacts were

711
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,800
pretty poor. Actually, his defensive impacts were twelve percentile, offensively

712
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,480
thirty fourth percentile, and he's supposed to be an offensive defenseman.

713
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:26,480
And of course the team was bad, as you quoted

714
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,559
at the beginning, so there wasn't a whole lot to

715
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,360
work with. But so maybe there is still more here

716
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,639
with Rasmus standing. But I think that I agree with you.

717
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:35,519
I think that he can be like a thirty to

718
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:38,639
forty point guy, and I think that he can run

719
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:42,480
a power play. There's some prospects that are going to

720
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,159
come along that we'll talk about in the dig that

721
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,039
are probably labeled the powerplay quarterback of the future. But

722
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719
there's going to be an interim I think between Carlson

723
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,559
and Cole Hudson. So I think that he's going to

724
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,320
potentially get some interim time there and maybe he can

725
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,880
do something with that, if he's even still on the

726
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,960
team at that point. But I don't I agree with you,

727
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,800
and my hopes have been dashed a little bit in

728
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,400
terms of what I think sandy In can be. I

729
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,599
think he is a serviceable middle to bottom pairing guy,

730
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,239
but beyond that, I don't think that there's big upside here.

731
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,840
His priffs have come a long way, actually, because initially

732
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,639
in Toronto his priffs weren't super strong. They've gotten a

733
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,280
bit better. He's closer to replacement, a little bit above

734
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,119
replacement level. Now. At least there's that. At least there's

735
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:26,119
something too hold on too while you're hoping for more points. Jesse,

736
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,400
all right, let's move over to the goalies now. And

737
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,559
the Capitals were ranked twenty second and expected goals against

738
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,800
per sixty and it conceded the twentieth ranked actual goals

739
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,239
per game. Charlie ling Grin was a big reason for that,

740
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:44,400
and we will talk about him certainly. And then they

741
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,440
brought in Logan Thompson to be part of this tour,

742
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,440
this duo. I was there at the draft when Logan

743
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,199
Thompson was signing autographs for the Vegas Golden Knight fans,

744
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,119
when he was traded. That was pretty hilarious. What I

745
00:37:58,159 --> 00:37:59,880
love what the Caps are doing is that they have

746
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,480
under two million dollars for both of these goalies. That

747
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,079
is the way to do it, in my opinion. They're

748
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:07,559
not paying either of these guys very much, and I

749
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:11,199
think they're both pretty serviceable. You see their numbers in

750
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:17,519
the past. They're both able to pretty close not necessarily

751
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:20,840
outperform their expected goals, but be in that neighborhood in

752
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,679
terms of their delta Fenwick and so there's there are

753
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:26,239
two guys that certainly can play. I think it's going

754
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,119
to be interesting to see what's going to happen with

755
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,719
Charlie Linger. And he's someone who I have been interested

756
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,679
in for a long time now getting a little bit

757
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,519
more of a role, and he finally did this last

758
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,599
season and played fifty games and was actually pretty good.

759
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,519
So I think that he is someone who seems like

760
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:47,880
he can handle the starter role. And Thompson we have

761
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,239
seen take the reins for a fair amount of time

762
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,559
and be someone who at least can play really well

763
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:56,719
behind a pretty good team. I'm not sure how that's

764
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,840
going to work playing for a team that's defensively quite

765
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,480
at worst in Vegas. But Jesse, how do you see

766
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,559
the starts here rolling out between these two? And do

767
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:09,039
you think that Lingering is still the starter slash one A.

768
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lingerin is still the starter slash one A.

769
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:18,519
I think Logan Thompson is an amazing contract to pull

770
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,880
in and a guy with experience. It seems like some

771
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,440
of these guys it's I don't know what to think

772
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,159
of guys coming out of Vegas in that system, because

773
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,760
guys have just thrived to a level. Aiden Hill was

774
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,559
not Aiden Hill before he went there, and I don't

775
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:35,840
know what Logan Thompson's going to look like coming out

776
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,719
of there. Charlie Lingern certainly gave up some stinkers last

777
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,920
year and had some rough games, as was covered earlier,

778
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,000
But I do feel like he is the guy I

779
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:50,280
am more likely to have faith in being able to

780
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,519
settle into this net if he can get the defense

781
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,679
in front of him, and they've beated up that defense,

782
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,480
so let's hope for the best in terms of that.

783
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,239
But yeah, I like Charlie ling grin more. I think

784
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,760
you're victor.

785
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. I do think he's going to

786
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,679
stick around to be the starter, But quite frankly, I

787
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,199
think this is a tandem that could generate some interest.

788
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,639
You know, they're both pretty decent guys, and I can

789
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,920
see that one of them, you know, getting a little

790
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,159
bit more of a role if Thompson goes on a

791
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,679
roll and Lingren has had some stretches where he hasn't

792
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,199
been so good. So I think I certainly have some

793
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,639
interest in Thompson as a tandem or as a pair

794
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,480
and the second guy if in a deep enough league,

795
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,639
I think that could be interesting.

796
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I think that's all we've got today

797
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,639
for the Washington Capitals. We're going to take a break,

798
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:41,039
come back with some goalie talk.

799
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,679
Speaker 3: Will since that's good fires Oh my goodness, long with

800
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,519
a quick gram.

801
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: Now it's your Wingley goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Kat's instincts.

802
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: Time once again for Kat's instincts with Cats, Silverman and

803
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:12,800
Ngold mag talking Capitals goalies. And we're gonna start with

804
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,039
Klay Stevenson six foot, four hundred, ninety four pounds. He

805
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,159
was a star for Dartmouth. Stevenson was and then signed

806
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:23,519
as a free agent, was not drafted by anyone last season.

807
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:26,320
He was mostly in the ECHL this season, the previous

808
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,639
season he was in EHL. This past season he was

809
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,119
in the AHL for the Hershey Bears, and I would

810
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:34,280
say it went pretty well. His EHL numbers were also

811
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,960
good nine sixteen save percentage of two point five four GAA.

812
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,480
This season in the AHL nine to twenty two save

813
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,480
percentage two point h six. It's pretty awesome when you

814
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,079
go up a level of difficulty and improve your stats.

815
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,400
That's always great to see. Looking at some of his

816
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:51,599
he is looking at hockey prospecting, some of his numbers

817
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,239
have trended down. I think that's partly because he spent

818
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,000
a lot of time in the BCHL, which has a

819
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,880
really low equivalency, and then now he's bumped up and

820
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,679
actually his most freezent and seasons don't really count in

821
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,440
this model because he's too old. He's down twenty five,

822
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,159
so he's graduated beyond that. But he has some comps

823
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:10,000
like a Scot. There's a Scott Wedgwood in there who's

824
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,840
an average NHLer and we've seen him have some success

825
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,559
in the NHL. So, Kat, what do your instincts tell

826
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:15,719
us about Klee Stephenson.

827
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 4: I thought he was a lot of fun to watch

828
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,199
in college he looked like a goaltender who spent a

829
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,559
lot of time marinating in the younger leagues, which unfortunately

830
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360
means that he does have that lower equivalent seed, just

831
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,599
in the sense that he is twenty five and he

832
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
was playing some games against kids who were like twenty

833
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,239
and twenty one. So even if he put up the

834
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,280
exact same stats as them, obviously they look like a

835
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,000
better prospect than he does, just because of age and

836
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,880
overall possibility moving forwards. But I don't think that's necessarily

837
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,719
a bad thing for some goaltenders, just getting that extra

838
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,920
little bit of chance to really fine tune their technique.

839
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,079
Because he looks like a mature he makes good decisions,

840
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,880
he looks confident out there. He looks like he's playing

841
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,840
among his peers, doesn't look like he is learning from them,

842
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,360
looks like he's enjoying the same the game at the

843
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,920
same level as them. Yeah, I don't know where he

844
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:21,960
falls in terms of NHL readiness, and I do think

845
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,440
that the capitals are gon limbo right now. But he's

846
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,880
one who could potentially be like a Scott went with

847
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,760
someone who makes it to the NHL plays some games

848
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,639
for them. I don't know if he's necessarily their next

849
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,800
as in a winner, but I do think that he

850
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,320
is going to be just fine, and I think he'll

851
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,679
be someone that they could potentially call up next year

852
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:46,239
if they need to.

853
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like they might. Also they have I

854
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:55,000
really like Charlie Lndren. I think he's earned his stripes.

855
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:57,519
He certainly hasn't done it for a long time, and

856
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:01,519
they have him and Logan Thompson, who also has had

857
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,039
had some run but not the longest track record, so

858
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,199
to me, they have two question marks ahead of him

859
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,480
in the NHL, So it's possible that he gets a

860
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,760
call up. Maybe it's him, maybe it's the next guy

861
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,199
we're going to talk about. Mitchell Thompson is the next guy,

862
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,280
and he is at six foot one hundred and eighty

863
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,800
seven pound goalie to twenty eighteen to fourth round pick.

864
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,159
He was great at Harvard before turning pro and last

865
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,840
year he was in the AHL as well with the

866
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,280
Hershey Bears, and he looked pretty good. He had nine

867
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,880
to fifteen save percentage and two games, but mostly he

868
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,559
was with the ECCHL South Carolina Stingrays fun name, and

869
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,280
he was eight ninety nine save percentage two point five

870
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,920
to six GA, so doesn't look too exciting in that model,

871
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,159
and his hockey prospect team looks really low. I think

872
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:50,239
part of that's because some of his early seasons were

873
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,920
in THEAHL and the NAHL, so some low equivalency leagues,

874
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:57,760
and he's down to eighty percent chance of being an NHLer.

875
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,719
But that doesn't include his professional hockey time. The only

876
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,079
comp that I could found that was reasonable is Dan Ellis,

877
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,559
who was like replacement level starter. That's pretty low. Anyways, Kat,

878
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,039
what do you instincts tell us about Gibson. That's a

879
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:10,440
tough one.

880
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,159
Speaker 4: That's like you said, they have a lot of question

881
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:16,760
marks in the capital system, so I think they could

882
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,039
be a team that literally anyone could make it to

883
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,800
get an NHL start this year. Nothing about his game

884
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,320
necessarily looks like He looks like a guy who has

885
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,639
been playing hockey for a long time, has really been

886
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:33,920
grinding it out. Has decent technique, has good movement, seems

887
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:39,480
like he's pretty unshakable, but he's been grinding it out.

888
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,800
He's twenty five already. I think if we were going

889
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,639
to see him really wow, we probably would have seen

890
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:50,559
it by now. I think I think Dan Ellis maybe

891
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,239
another Scott Wedgwood. That's a pair of goalies that are

892
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:57,559
good experience, good locker room guys between Stevenson and Gibson,

893
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,719
but not necessarily that's not ours I ask GARB to

894
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,320
have in their system. Maybe they need one. There's one

895
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,440
for sale, I've heard.

896
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,039
Speaker 1: Yes, there is. Yeah, an interesting system and we'll see

897
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:12,159
what happens. Thanks so much, Cavig Gama Shaanstincs on the

898
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:21,679
Washington Capital's goalies, Dig.

899
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: The Dynasty, Dig Victor. The Washington Capitals are system number

900
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,679
twenty eight on the ranks. I think that was pre draft. Boy,

901
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,480
it feels like we've got some hotter prospects than that

902
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:41,519
number would indicate, probably guys who will be coming onto

903
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:44,000
this into the future. But it starts with your no brainer.

904
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:44,519
Who is it?

905
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:48,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, the no brainer is going to be Cole Hudson

906
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,719
twenty twenty four, forty third, forty third overall pick. I

907
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,519
was there at the draft when he was speaking at

908
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:57,039
the table. It was really fun. Someone asked him if

909
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:59,760
he had bragging rights on his brother being drafted a

910
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,639
little bit earlier, and I think he very appropriately was like,

911
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:04,480
I got a lot to prove until I get to

912
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,639
the point where I can say I got anything on Lane,

913
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,840
but he is a really exciting young defenseman, just like

914
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,800
his brother is. And he's a little bit taller than

915
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,559
he than his brother was when he was drafted. Lane

916
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:20,960
was still five nine when drafted in Cole five ten already,

917
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,559
so that's nice that he's already grown a little bit

918
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:27,079
left handed d he turned eighteen on the first day

919
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,960
of the draft. He wasn't drafted till Tay two, unfortunately,

920
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,920
but he's very young for this draft cycle. I think

921
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,199
that's always important to note. And so he was seventeen

922
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,119
all season, and he potentially still has a little bit

923
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:43,760
more to grow in terms of his obviously his all

924
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,400
around game, but also his height. So he's already reached

925
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,639
the height of where his brother is now. And looking

926
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:54,719
at some of the metrics like Mitch Brown's tracking data,

927
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:59,920
Cole Hudson elite offensively for the USHL ninety fifth percent

928
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,239
transition eighty two percentile. You got the defense a little

929
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,159
bit lacking at forty fifth percentile, but he's excellent for

930
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,639
expected goals, expected primary assists. His entries and exits are

931
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,199
pretty outstanding. He's got some really great game score and

932
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,920
impact overall in the game, and as I noted a

933
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,840
couple times previously in the draft episodes, I think he

934
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,920
did more with less at the usn TDP I think

935
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,679
he had less talent around him than Lane did and

936
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,960
he was still able to put up significant number of points.

937
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,960
You love to see that. And he was awesome at

938
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,400
the UA teen World Junior Championships for USA, even though

939
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,519
they had lost in that heartbreaker to Canada, but he

940
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,679
was everything four points and nine assists for thirteen points

941
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:46,880
in seven games. He's an offensive dynamo. His FHL player card,

942
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,679
based on his USHL performance, you can see that he

943
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,159
actually hits a lot. You might think Cole Hudson, Oh,

944
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:54,920
he's just an offensive guy, is not really going to

945
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,800
throw the body. But ninetieth percentile for hits Cole Hudson,

946
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,800
that probably surprises a lot of people. Reason to take

947
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,480
a look at these FHL player cards. His shots are

948
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,199
eighty percentile. His block's a little bit lower at just

949
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:09,000
thirty percentile, but that might have been because they often

950
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,440
had the puck and they were a good possession teams,

951
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,039
so that might have helped him. His goals and assists

952
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,760
also ninetieth percentile. He actually is only thirtieth percentile for

953
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,039
pims because if you like pims, he actually takes a

954
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,880
fair number of them. That's something that you might like

955
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,840
if you're in that kind of league. So overall, the

956
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,679
bash is pretty decent for Cole, maybe better than you

957
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:29,519
would think. But let's hear a little bit more about

958
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,719
some of the nuances of Cole Hudson's game. From Urfahl Scout.

959
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:37,639
Speaker 2: Leed scout Jeremy Bee pipes in on Cole Hudson skating

960
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,440
smooth skater from the back end, makes use of that

961
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:43,639
speed and edgework to join the rush and recover Defensively,

962
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,159
passing and handling, Hudson is a great puck handler and

963
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,719
passer consistently can beat defenders in transition a dish to

964
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,559
open teammates shooting. Hudson's shots very good for defenseman. He

965
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,079
should score plenty of goals IQ IQ and panic meter

966
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,480
with the puck could use some work. He has a

967
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,960
habit of giving away the puck by holding on too

968
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,079
long and sometimes making ill advised passes. On the offensive zone,

969
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,199
He'll be exciting, but on the breakout he may give

970
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,000
you some heart attacks defense. Cole Hudson's defensive game is developing,

971
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,000
but there's glimpses of a lot of good things. He

972
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,639
isn't afraid to engage physically and has the edgework to

973
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,519
keep up with opponents. He can get caught puck watching

974
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:28,199
at times and get muscled off the puck, but those

975
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,440
are teachable skills. Jeremy says. The best asset is the

976
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:34,920
passing and stick handling. The biggest concern the decision making

977
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,719
is going to frustrate coaches and fans. He needs to

978
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,119
clean that up before being considered a lock for NHL time.

979
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,559
The top tier outcome here sixty point power play one defenseman,

980
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:50,920
nice role. That's because he has the offensive skill set

981
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,480
and enough defense to get by. He just needs to

982
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,719
clean up the mental game a bit more. The median outcome,

983
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,800
Jeremy says, third pairing limited minutes deep with offensive power

984
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,159
play to upside. If he doesn't hit, he's going to

985
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,320
be a frustrating defenseman that teams can't quite trust at

986
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,599
even strength and that will cap his minutes. Stylistic comparable

987
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Jeremy's going with zach Warensky and the final thoughts He's

988
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,679
got no competition in Washington long term, so look for

989
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,519
him to get some looks soon. Victor. Our friend Mason Black,

990
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:28,440
the NHL ranking put out the poll col Hudson versus

991
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:33,480
competition Anton Silajev. So I have who I drafted in

992
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:36,239
the in one of our rookie drafts when I was

993
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,559
completely on tilt this week and regret it, and I

994
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:43,239
think the people would agree. Cole Hudson is the higher pick,

995
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,840
the higher prospect, sixty four to thirty six. He comes

996
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,280
in and over Salaiev is that I would bet you

997
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,440
a nickel. That's what you're gonna say. You agree with.

998
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:58,599
Speaker 1: Yep. Of course, sometimes the NHL ranking Mason gives us

999
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:03,320
a toss up softball, and this is absolutely it for me.

1000
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,159
I would take Cole Hubson Hudson easily, hero ran time.

1001
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Salaiev is the more for sure thing to play in

1002
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,239
the NHL. He got the size, he's got, the skating

1003
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,440
he's been playing professionally. If you want the absolute for

1004
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,760
sure thing to play in the league, I guess the

1005
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,880
only contingency is since he's rushing, maybe he or there's

1006
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,320
some sort of injury. Obviously, anything can happen, but I

1007
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,599
think it's extremely likely he plays in the league. I

1008
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:31,760
just don't think he's someone who's gonna score very much

1009
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,480
at all. Hudson, on the other hand, all the offensive

1010
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,840
upside in the world, but he's a little bit smaller.

1011
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,599
Some of the risk that he brings with him in

1012
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:43,960
terms of his offensive game is what you would worry about.

1013
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,119
But I would easily take Hudson. By the way, I

1014
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:49,079
was looking at our average draft position, because that's something

1015
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,960
that we're tracking, and you can have that as part

1016
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,000
of your draft. You can be informed and see where

1017
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,800
these guys are coming. Salaiev comes in at fourteen. Cole

1018
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,480
Hudson twenty second. If you were drafting around eighteen nineteen,

1019
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:03,360
thinking I wonder if Hudson will be available, odds are

1020
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,519
according to our data, he would be maybe you could

1021
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:09,400
wait a little bit. That's always good information to know. Anyways,

1022
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,760
I would definitely take Hudson. Looking at the p n

1023
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,400
H lead between the two, it's actually similar, surprisingly sixty

1024
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:19,719
for Cudson sixty fifty eight for Salaiev. That's why we're

1025
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,519
talking about them together. But I think that there's, as

1026
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,360
I mentioned, just way more upside for Hudson. Looking at

1027
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,000
the hockey prospecting between these two, you can see this

1028
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:31,559
massive discrepancy. Hudson has sixty nine percent chance of being

1029
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:35,840
a star, Salaia fifteen percent. And actually the NHLer probability

1030
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,599
is higher for Hudson too, which I didn't didn't expect

1031
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:43,079
based on Byron's hockey prospecting eighty fifth percentile eighty fifty

1032
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,599
five percent for Cole Hudson and just fifty one percent

1033
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:48,239
for Salai. Of of course, I wanted to throw up

1034
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,239
the comparison of Cole to Lane Hudson because why not?

1035
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:56,599
And he so far Cole has a higher star potential

1036
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:58,639
than Lane did. In his draft season, Dre Lane was

1037
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:00,760
just fifty three percent chance of being a star, whereas

1038
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,280
Cole is already at sixty nine. In fact, this season,

1039
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:07,400
this draft season for Cole looks more like Lane's Draft

1040
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,800
plus one season, where he shot up to seventy three

1041
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,239
percent chance of being a star. His NHL equivalency was

1042
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,360
pretty similar to Cole's draft season. So that's pretty interesting

1043
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:20,599
in terms of what we're going to see moving forward

1044
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:23,840
from the young man. And Cole is off to Boston

1045
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,159
University this season just like Lane did, so we'll see

1046
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:31,880
how his transition to the NCAA is. Obviously, that was

1047
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,960
a huge pop off for Lane, so we'll see if

1048
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,320
he can increase that a little bit. Looking at the

1049
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,559
j freshcard, Cole Hudson twelve percent chance of being a star,

1050
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:43,519
which is pretty good for this model, eighty five percent

1051
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,000
chance of being in NHLer, So a lot of the

1052
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,159
models see him as being a pretty sure bet to

1053
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,800
be a great producer. Cole Hudson are no brainer.

1054
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: Yes sir, And next up, mister Champagne. The need to

1055
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,880
know prospect too, is it?

1056
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: Yes? Andrew Christall is our need to know and yeah

1057
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,360
he's twenty twenty three. Fortieth overall pick was Andrew Kristall

1058
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,039
five ten, one hundred and seventy four pounds left shot

1059
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,480
left wing. Is we as. He had a Bonker's Draft

1060
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:17,920
plus one season where he went from ninety five points

1061
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,039
in fifty four games to one hundred and eleven points

1062
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:22,960
and sixty two games played, plus another fifteen points in

1063
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,639
eleven playoff games. Obviously the points scoring is massive there.

1064
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,719
He plays for the Colonna Rockets in the WHL and

1065
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,440
it was a pretty banana season. He is a February

1066
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:37,360
nineteen birthday, so he will be in the WHL all

1067
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,400
of this next season as well, unless he gets a

1068
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,760
little bit of a try out with the Caps, I

1069
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,599
don't think he's anywhere close to being NHL already quite frankly,

1070
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:47,119
though he did sign his ELC, I think the Caps

1071
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,239
know what they have with him. Looking at his tracking data,

1072
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,679
he continues to struggle defensively. His defensive impacts are pretty

1073
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:58,719
atrocious eighteenth percentile as a draft plus one guy who

1074
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,760
went pretty high in the NHL raft, that's a pretty

1075
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,800
low number. His offense, though, ninety nine percentile. We know

1076
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,599
that his transitional game also very good, so things like

1077
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,679
his off puck assist, his body positioning, his defensive play,

1078
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,320
these are all things that really the mids tracks that

1079
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,880
really seem to struggle for Andrew Crystal, and I think

1080
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,519
it's going to be one of the things that limits

1081
00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:22,000
him moving forward. We'll have to see. Looking at his

1082
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:25,239
FHL player card, goals and assists per sixty are out

1083
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,559
of this off the charts one hundred percentile, ninety percentile

1084
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,719
for shots, but everything else is pretty low. His hits

1085
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,320
and blocks are basically hardly even register they're below ten percent,

1086
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,920
and the bash is not going to be there for Crystal.

1087
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,639
It's going to be points only. Maybe with some shots,

1088
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,559
so that's going to be a bit of the concern

1089
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,639
too in terms of holding him in fantasy. The floor

1090
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,880
isn't necessarily going to be there. He does take a

1091
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,599
fair number of penalties as though, if you like that

1092
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:52,639
sort of thing. But let's hear a little bit more

1093
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:54,360
about Crystal from our VERHL scout.

1094
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: Just Jeremy has this to say about Andrew Christaal skating

1095
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:02,400
not a but he's good in his feet above average

1096
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,760
as a skater, passing and handling. While Christal is more

1097
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,840
known for his shot, this is Jeremy's favorite aspect of

1098
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,119
the game. He has great finesse with the puck, good

1099
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:15,480
one touch passing. Jeremy thinks he'll succeed as either a

1100
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:19,880
finisher or a playmaker. Shooting the shot is the biggest asset.

1101
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,519
He's got a lethal snapshot wrist shot that's a danger

1102
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:27,400
for anyone from anywhere in the offensive zone. IQ the

1103
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,400
offensive poison vision are great. He also anticipates plays well

1104
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,760
in the defensive zone, although that sometimes leads to him

1105
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,920
being out of position for checking. Christal could do to

1106
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,599
improve on his foe checking. He applies light pressure, often

1107
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:44,639
slows up and reaches with a stick instead of pushing

1108
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:48,480
plays to the boards. Hopefully Christall ends up on a

1109
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,800
better line with better four checkers defense. Crystal's defense is fine,

1110
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,000
although he definitely cheats toward the offensive zone at times.

1111
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,559
Best asset most would say a shot, but again, Jeremy

1112
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:03,800
actually likes the handle an in passing better and thinks

1113
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,280
he'll end up more the setup guy than the finisher

1114
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,639
on power plays for example. Biggest concern not quite a

1115
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:12,199
complete game yet. If he doesn't round that out, he's

1116
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:14,440
not going to get twenty minutes a night that will

1117
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:18,480
unlock everything else. Pop tier outcome seventy five to eighty

1118
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:24,239
point play driving winger. If his offense crystallizes, Oh, Jeremy,

1119
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,079
he can be more. He can be one of the

1120
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:29,960
more dynamic players from this draft class. The median outcome

1121
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,559
third line player, power play one scoring depth guy. Jeremy

1122
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:36,800
does worry his game may not translate one hundred percent

1123
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,719
to the NHL. If that happens, he may just be

1124
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,400
a middle six guy stylistic comparable. This will indicate something

1125
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:46,559
Jeff Skinner and overall being in a weak Washington system

1126
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:51,159
should help Christall develop more quickly. Our friend Mason Black

1127
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:53,440
the NHL rank King. He put out the poll Andrew

1128
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,519
Christall versus Calum Ritchie and Christall in a landslide over

1129
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:03,159
the avl Oh look at that, sixty eight point five

1130
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:07,519
to thirty one point five Victor. That's what the numbers

1131
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:09,880
seem to say. Is that what you say for these two?

1132
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: I think that I would take Richie quite frankly, So

1133
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,840
I'm going to go against the grain here. Well, yeah, yeah,

1134
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,159
I'm going to stand up. I guess I'm gonna fall

1135
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:21,719
down with the avalanche. I'm not really sure what the

1136
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,280
right way to say that is. But we've talked about

1137
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,639
Christall and all the potential issues with his game, his

1138
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,719
lack of two way effort, the lack of ability to

1139
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,239
do that. And he's a he's a pretty unidimensional player,

1140
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,960
and so he needs a very specific role to be

1141
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,559
successful in the NHL. And maybe the Caps will be

1142
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:40,719
able to give that to him, maybe they won't. Maybe

1143
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,000
they'll be happy with that, maybe they won't. I think

1144
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,840
that there's just a lot of questions there. The upside

1145
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:51,400
is unquestioned. He's a brilliant playmaker, He's an offensive dynamo.

1146
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,480
But is all that going to translate? Isn't he going

1147
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:55,280
to be able to flex that at the NHL level.

1148
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,079
I'm still skeptical about that. Ritchie, on the other hand,

1149
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:01,800
we talked with Megan Anger about how he's going to

1150
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,679
be knocking on the door as early as this season

1151
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:06,719
to play in the NHL, that he's really come a

1152
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:09,599
long way and that they really like him, and so

1153
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,119
he might even I don't think he'll make it, but

1154
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,519
he might compete for a spot in camp this season,

1155
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,559
which will be pretty fun, and at the very least

1156
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:18,519
maybe he'll get some games. At the end of this season.

1157
01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:23,199
He will turn twenty in January, so next season, not

1158
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,079
this upcoming one, but the one after, he should be

1159
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,440
in the AHL. And he's just a more well rounded player,

1160
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:32,880
So I think that there's a lot more potential for

1161
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:36,760
it to completely work out for Callum Ritchie. You look

1162
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,159
at his tracking data and his defensive metrics are eighty

1163
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:42,320
second percentile and his offense is just as good statistically

1164
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,360
in terms of percentile as Andrew Christal. So you have

1165
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,400
a similarly offensively gifted player with a completely different picture

1166
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:55,440
two way transition and defensively for Calum Richie. So I

1167
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,880
would definitely take him, and I would take a little

1168
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,239
bit more security for the vault latility of the upside

1169
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:04,719
of Andrew Kristal. Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two,

1170
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,639
Crystal has it by a fair amount fifty four percent

1171
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,800
chance of being a star to Richie, who trend it

1172
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,559
down just a little bit in terms of twenty four

1173
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:15,639
to twelve percent chance of being a star, even though

1174
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:18,159
his P and H his NHL went up from twenty

1175
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:20,079
five to thirty nine, just because of the way that

1176
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:23,719
Byron tracks this and the NHLer probability is still higher

1177
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:26,559
for Christal. Looking at some other comps for Crystal, a

1178
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:29,039
lot of them are pretty good. Brian Little is one.

1179
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:32,000
He's got some Leon dry Sidle in there. I don't

1180
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:36,519
think that there's very little likelihood that Christal ends up

1181
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:39,280
being likely and dry Sidle, but you never know. I

1182
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,480
guess there's a world where his offense completely translates, and

1183
01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:45,119
that's why a lot of people are picking him. I

1184
01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:50,079
would say there were certainly some detractors of dry Sitle,

1185
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:52,800
saying that he is his foot speed and his defensive

1186
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,840
game were not great, and that maintains to be true.

1187
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,920
But he's just so offensively gifted. I'm just not sure

1188
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,880
that the offense translates for Kristal. We'll see the J

1189
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Fresh card thirty six percentile for Christal eighty percent chance

1190
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,280
of being in NHLR. So even the J Fresh card

1191
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,519
pretty optimistic on him. He's the twentieth ranked prospect in

1192
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:11,840
that data set, Jesse.

1193
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and the keep your eye on prospect victor

1194
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:16,840
who is it.

1195
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: We'll keep your eye on is going to be Ryan Leonard,

1196
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,039
And as you mentioned at the top, this is a

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01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,199
pretty great keep your eye on prospect. A lot of

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01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:26,880
the systems don't have one quite this good. But he

1199
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,039
was a twenty twenty third eighth overall pick, six foot

1200
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,840
ninety pounds right shot center, sixty points and forty one

1201
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,639
games at BC of the NCAA six points and seven

1202
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,599
games at end route to the gold medal for the

1203
01:02:38,679 --> 01:02:41,119
USA at the U twenty World Junior Championship. He had

1204
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,800
one assist in the Men's World Championship for USA in

1205
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,320
six games. He will be back at BC with Gay

1206
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,880
Pro and not Will Smith, but they are getting the

1207
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,960
infusion of James Hagen's into their lineup. In fact, most

1208
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,639
likely going to play between Leonard m Pro is going

1209
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,840
to be James Hagen, so I don't know that Higgins

1210
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,039
is quite where Will Smith was last year, but his

1211
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,480
upside might even be higher than will Smith, so that

1212
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:08,159
he's got one going to trade out one elite center

1213
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:11,119
for another, So that should be pretty good for Leonard,

1214
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:13,000
and I think we'll be interesting to see him play

1215
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:15,400
not with Smith, although he'll still be playing with Pro.

1216
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:17,880
We've been wanting to see those three split up for

1217
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,920
a while now, and it's still not entirely happening, but

1218
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:23,719
a little bit. Looking at the tracking data from Mitch Brown,

1219
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,559
Leonard offense ninety nine percentile, transition ninety nine percentile, defense

1220
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:32,639
fifty five percentile, and that's always what was triesing to

1221
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:34,639
me because he seems to be billed as more of

1222
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:39,000
the defensively responsible one of that trio, and he's still

1223
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,679
just about average, so that's interesting. And at the World

1224
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,800
Juniors Leonard was twenty ninth percentile for defense. I think

1225
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,599
that line was asked to go out and score, though,

1226
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:49,840
so I'm not sure that was even on his mind

1227
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,159
as much. Looking at the FHL player card for Leonard,

1228
01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:55,880
you can see that he hits a ton one hundred

1229
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,400
percentile essentially, and the shots are also really high. The

1230
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,239
blocks see at percentile, so he just looks like a

1231
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,400
bash gem, which gives him that super high floor something

1232
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,199
we always like to see. That's something we can expect.

1233
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,239
Let's hear a little bit more what we can expect

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01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,719
about Ryan Leonard from our FHL scout Jesse.

1235
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,679
Speaker 2: Leed scout Jeremy says skating Leonard doesn't have the best

1236
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:18,920
first step, but he's sneaky fast when he gets going.

1237
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,800
Passing and handling silky hands for Leonard. He routinely made

1238
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:27,800
NCAA defenders look silly one on one shooting. Leonard's shot

1239
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,639
is fine, but he's not going to be scoring most

1240
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:32,199
of his goals from distance. He'll be better at getting

1241
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:36,000
in close and slamming home rebounds. IQ. His hockey IQ

1242
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:38,280
is one of the best that Jeremy's seen from his

1243
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,920
draft class. He anticipates plays and seems to always be involved. Defensively,

1244
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:47,519
cuts off lanes, creates pressure for checking. Leonard is an

1245
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:51,079
aggressive for checker who can both create turnovers and wear

1246
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:56,119
down defenders. He seems to have unlimited motor defense. Leonard's

1247
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:59,519
defense is well polished for his his age. He's quick

1248
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:02,400
to move from the ashes to the point when covering

1249
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,760
and willing to take the body and block shots. He

1250
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,920
could even be an asset on the penalty kill if

1251
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,599
asked too. So the best asset was the IQ. The

1252
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:15,880
biggest concern Jeremy didn't really have a biggest concern if

1253
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,760
he had a nitpick. He wonders if five eleven, one

1254
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,360
hundred ninety pounds can hold up to many years of

1255
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,559
this play style, but Jeremy doesn't like projecting injury risks,

1256
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:28,840
so he's not going to go there. Biggest role potential,

1257
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,000
top tier ninety plus point do it all player. That's

1258
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:36,480
because the sky's the limit with this guy's potential. Jeremy

1259
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,880
thinks he could be a fifty to sixty point NHLer

1260
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,719
as soon as next season, and if he gets an

1261
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,280
elite center, he could do some real scoring damage for

1262
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,159
the next decade. Fiftieth percentile median would be sixty five

1263
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:52,840
to seventy point complementary power forward. Jeremy doesn't really see

1264
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,639
the Leonard missing the top six under any circumstances. At

1265
01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:58,079
the low end, maybe he's the second line energy guy

1266
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:02,639
like the Toronto era Zachman, and Jeremy thinks most outcomes

1267
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:05,760
for him put him top six power play one, probably

1268
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,480
top three on his team in points. Brad Marshaan without

1269
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:13,280
the antics, is the stylistic comparable or the good Travis

1270
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,880
connect the seasons and overall, Jeremy is a big fan

1271
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,039
thinks he's one of the most NHL ready prospects out there.

1272
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,719
The NHL Rankking Pole says that Ryan Leonard's terrible and

1273
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,239
everybody should trade him to me in their fantasy leagues. No, actually,

1274
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,840
I'm sorry, I misread that it's actually Ryan Leonard versus

1275
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,119
Uri Coolich of the Buffalo Sabers. Ryan Leonard absolute route

1276
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:40,840
seventy nine percent to twenty one percent. Victor, are you

1277
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:44,360
that strongly Leonard over Kolich Or do you want to

1278
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,519
swim against the grain again.

1279
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: Look, I've been doing that a lot lately, swimming against

1280
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,079
the grain. Yeah, this one's definitely harder for me. I

1281
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:55,519
love Ury Kulick as a lot of people will probably

1282
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:59,119
know his I think he's in line for a huge

1283
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:03,519
season here with the Sabers sometime soon. I'm not sure

1284
01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:06,000
I think it should be this season. I don't know

1285
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:08,800
what else he has to prove at the AHL level.

1286
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,719
He's been incredible the last two seasons as a teenager.

1287
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,400
He just turned twenty in April, so he had eighteen

1288
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
to nineteen year old seasons basically as a teenager in

1289
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,599
the AHL, and he was awesome, one of the best

1290
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:26,159
AHL teenagers ever in terms of productions. I think Kolik

1291
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,280
is amazing. I think that he's he may not have

1292
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,599
the Bash that Leonard has, but I'm a little skeptical

1293
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,039
of how much the scoring is going to translate for Leonard.

1294
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:36,880
I think he ends up being more of like a

1295
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,199
two way, checking, power forward type, whereas Cool Look, I

1296
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,039
think has always been more of the offense energy guy,

1297
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,960
so it's definitely closer for me. I would have a

1298
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,199
really hard time with this one if I was picking

1299
01:07:50,239 --> 01:07:53,760
between these two, and obviously the system that they're in

1300
01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:56,840
matters a little bit. I do think that there will

1301
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,719
be a more defined role for Leonard than there is

1302
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:03,400
for There's so many guys in Buffalo that you wonder

1303
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:06,559
how that top six is going to flesh out. It

1304
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:09,159
looks like it's more like a top nine, and so

1305
01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:11,239
there'll be a lot of competition for those top roles,

1306
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,119
whereas I think it'll be a little bit more clear

1307
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,360
for Leonard. So I guess I would take Leonard, but

1308
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,720
it would be really close and difficult for me to

1309
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,960
make that decision. The pin Achillie for Leonard is eighty

1310
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,680
six and it's seventy three for Kulick. The trend for

1311
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,760
Leonard is just like skyrocketing upward towards ninety ish points,

1312
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,720
which is pretty eighty five points, which is pretty fantastic.

1313
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:36,319
Kulick has been in that seventy ish points the last

1314
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:39,920
couple of seasons, which is pretty great. There's some really

1315
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,520
good comps for Leonard and the Pinacilli model, like Dylan

1316
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,640
Lark and Ryan Getzlov, and for Kulick it's a little

1317
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,439
bit lower guys like Fiola and Vanik, so that's pretty

1318
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,000
interesting looking at the hockey prospecting between the two. It's

1319
01:08:52,039 --> 01:08:54,479
always been a bit lower for Koulick just because his

1320
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,119
low equivalency and his D minus one season because there

1321
01:08:57,159 --> 01:08:59,439
wasn't really much of an equivalency there and then. But

1322
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,800
he's really off the charts since coming over to North America.

1323
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:05,319
He's still only had six percent chance of being a

1324
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:09,000
star though, whereas Leonard has basically maintained his star potential

1325
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:12,079
at fifty three the last two seasons, so that's super high.

1326
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:14,880
And the NHL R probability and seventy six percent for

1327
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,600
Leonard compared to forty eight for Kolick. Looking at the

1328
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,680
comps for Ryan Leonard, there's just a lot of pretty

1329
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,319
good ones. Jonathan Drewan is one that's more average, but

1330
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,000
Elias Peterson is in there, so that's pretty cool. There's

1331
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,039
some other ones like the Sadines twins. I don't know

1332
01:09:31,079 --> 01:09:33,840
that he has that kind of upside frankly, but he

1333
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:37,159
does have some comparisons to those, so you love to

1334
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:40,720
see those types of upside in the comparisons, even if

1335
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,600
it's potentially not all that likely. But yeah, Leonard. One

1336
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,239
thing I can never get out of my mind when

1337
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:51,119
watching Ryan Leonard is thinking about his brother John Leonard,

1338
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:53,880
who played for the Sharks and just seemed to have

1339
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,840
a really hard time to translating his skill. So I

1340
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,920
don't know that's going to be the case for Ryan Leonard,

1341
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,359
but it always sticks in the back of my mind.

1342
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,199
Looking at the Jfresh card for Ryan Leonard, twenty three

1343
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,279
percent chance of being a start of eighty six percent

1344
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:09,560
chance of being NHL or so, twenty fifth ranked prospect

1345
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,479
in that system overall, pretty optimistic for this prospect Pool

1346
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,840
in Washington, Jesse. And if you're a patroon, you can

1347
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,319
listen to my top ten prospect recaps, which I'm going

1348
01:10:20,359 --> 01:10:25,000
through now that we're closing up these team previews. And

1349
01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:26,680
if you're interesting to do some skyting with us, shoot

1350
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,920
me a DM on Twitter, Discord, or email us.

1351
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:42,159
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1366
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1367
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