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Speaker 2: Mister Caplis is not here. I think he's going to
Speaker 2: the CU game. That'll be okay. You know, Dan and
Speaker 2: I are alike in a lot of ways, and we're
Speaker 2: really opposite in a lot of ways. We both think
Speaker 2: his wife is spectacular. True, we have the same values
Speaker 2: on a lot of governmental issues. True, we both love
Speaker 2: our kids. True. But I think he actually has pride
Speaker 2: from graduating from CEU.
Speaker 3: Oh big time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just nutbags. I mean, that's that makes no sense.
Speaker 2: See you is a factory of socialism. It pumps out
Speaker 2: out people who are socialists. It is tax money going
Speaker 2: to socialism. I understand people have a great time in college,
Speaker 2: and and by the way, people's great time in college
Speaker 2: didn't really happen. I think for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: college is an angst ridden, anxiety filled weird thing. But
Speaker 2: in the rearview mirror it gets very very rosy. So no,
Speaker 2: no pride, no SeeU pride here. And yet John, you
Speaker 2: still live in Boulder, don't you? Yes? How, yes, I do.
Speaker 2: How people's Republic of Boulder, how partly because it really
Speaker 2: pisses people off. I mean I Bolder, and I mean
Speaker 2: this sincerely. Bolder is the most intolerant, hateful town in
Speaker 2: the state.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: It's full of elitists who claim they support diversity intolerance.
Speaker 2: But really that's only if you're a liberal or progressive,
Speaker 2: then they can tolerate you. If your gun owner, no,
Speaker 2: they hate you. If you're a conservative, no, they hate you.
Speaker 2: But I've been here for so long that it was
Speaker 2: my town before it was their town.
Speaker 3: So they can't take that from you.
Speaker 2: Well they can. They have. I'm sure I'm a criminal
Speaker 2: by their gun laws and everything else. But no, And
Speaker 2: if you want to know the truth, back in college,
Speaker 2: I was in my house, I sitting out on the
Speaker 2: stoop one day and a beautiful, gorgeous topless woman walks by,
Speaker 2: cuts across my lawn and to go down the road,
Speaker 2: and I look at her, smile and wave. She looks
Speaker 2: at me and smiles and waves. And for the last
Speaker 2: forty years I have been waiting on my stoop for
Speaker 2: that woman to come back, and until she does, I'm
Speaker 2: staying in Boulder. A guy can dream. That guy can
Speaker 2: dream dream three or three seven, one, three, eight, two
Speaker 2: five five The Land of the Last Hours. Talking to Brad,
Speaker 2: who didn't really have time to fairly answer the question.
Speaker 2: He wants to make the case that the current GOP
Speaker 2: chair is still in power because of all these parliamentary reasons,
Speaker 2: which will let a judge decide, because a judge will
Speaker 2: end up deciding this. But the way he was doing
Speaker 2: it sounded very much like the way election deniers say
Speaker 2: that Trump didn't win the election. I asked him this question,
Speaker 2: did Trump lose the election or win the election? So
Speaker 2: I thought I'd leave him on just for enough to
Speaker 2: answer that question, Brad, did Trump win?
Speaker 4: Did Trump win the election?
Speaker 5: The answer is I don't know.
Speaker 4: The answer is there was four hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 4: new vot placed on our voter roles in Colorado.
Speaker 2: All right, now you're gonna give all the stop stop
Speaker 2: stop stop stop stop stop, no goodbye. Let me put
Speaker 2: you on hold because you don't want to have a conversation.
Speaker 2: You just want to put out your conspiracy theories about
Speaker 2: Dave Williams okay, so you, But I just want to
Speaker 2: make it clear. If I let you ramble, you were
Speaker 2: my turn. If I were to let you ramble, you
Speaker 2: would be rambling on about all the inconsistencies in the election,
Speaker 2: giving giving evidence that Trump could very easily have won.
Speaker 2: Would I be right?
Speaker 4: I don't know, all right, We don't know how those
Speaker 4: votes would have turned.
Speaker 2: We have no idea, but we have questions. My god,
Speaker 2: all right, and so Dave Williams. At the end of
Speaker 2: all this legal maneuvering, and when the courts and the
Speaker 2: National Party have to decide, do you think Dave Williams
Speaker 2: will remain in.
Speaker 5: Power again, that's up to the Central Committee.
Speaker 2: Well, oh my god, have a nice day. When somebody
Speaker 2: has a strength to give me some straight answers, please
Speaker 2: give me a call three h three seven one three
Speaker 2: eight two five five seven to one three talk. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to do any sort of talk show voodoo
Speaker 2: on somebody. I just want some straight answers. That's it.
Speaker 2: The straight answer is that a huge majority of the
Speaker 2: Central Committee have expressed they want Dave Williams out. Dave
Speaker 2: Williams is using every last legal maneuver to stay in power.
Speaker 2: That's the truth. That is the only truth there is.
Speaker 2: Eighty percent of them voted to yank him. Well, a
Speaker 2: lot of those were proxies. The majority of those were proxies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and when you give your a proxy to somebody, it
Speaker 2: has the full force and weight of your vote. Let's
Speaker 2: go to the thrones. Talk to Susie. Hey, Susie, you're
Speaker 2: with John Calderow. Welcome, Susan.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Susan, Susan, Okay, sorry, Yes, I am a Republican,
Speaker 6: but I am not a member of the SEC. And
Speaker 6: we all know that the meeting last Saturday was illegitimate
Speaker 6: and that the rn C has weighed in on this,
Speaker 6: and they did call it illegitimate. So they have not
Speaker 6: been removed.
Speaker 5: And that is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely opposite of what I heard. Because the spokesman of.
Speaker 6: You may afford you the letter from the rn C, please,
Speaker 6: I can avoided you. I'll be the documentation here and
Speaker 6: I can also show you that they were told the
Speaker 6: question tolf of the Cholera Republican Party. So let me
Speaker 6: do that, all right, Well, no, you're es for me.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you the question, do you believe a
Speaker 2: majority of the Central Committee has expressed their viewpoint that
Speaker 2: they want Dave Williams gone.
Speaker 6: No, the SEC meeting is not until the thirty first,
Speaker 6: and we know the bulk of the SEC is with
Speaker 6: Dave Williams.
Speaker 7: How can that be when because meeting with the fringe
Speaker 7: minority of seventy seven people.
Speaker 6: With enough vote so the proxies do not even count.
Speaker 2: What will it take for you to be convinced that
Speaker 2: Dave Williams is ousted?
Speaker 6: Well, I will be there at the SEC on Saturday.
Speaker 6: I invite you to come.
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you that. No, I don't care. I
Speaker 2: don't care about the Republican Party.
Speaker 6: I know you don't.
Speaker 3: You've I've had it.
Speaker 2: I've had it with a dysfunction. I've had it with
Speaker 2: the inefficiencies.
Speaker 6: I've had it since minority that's been doing it.
Speaker 2: Wait, did a fringe minority shop? Did a fringe minority
Speaker 2: call for the burning of gay pride flags? Did a
Speaker 2: fringe minority? Did a fringe minority? Did a fringe minority
Speaker 2: endorse eighteen candidates in the primary for the first time
Speaker 2: in Colorado history, fourteen of which lost. Was that a
Speaker 2: fringe minority.
Speaker 6: Should calling money from our candidates?
Speaker 2: Did a fringe minority call for the banning and burning
Speaker 2: of flags.
Speaker 6: Gays against Groomers did that?
Speaker 2: No? I know Gays against Groomers and they never called
Speaker 2: to burning flags.
Speaker 6: Talk to them again about that.
Speaker 2: I know the head of Gays against Groomers and he did.
Speaker 6: Not call for burn Again about that?
Speaker 2: I asked you, did a fringe minority or did Dave
Speaker 2: Williams call for the burning of gay pride flags?
Speaker 6: Extringe minority does not speak the State Central Committee.
Speaker 2: Did Dave I'm Williams call for the burning of flags?
Speaker 6: It takes three sixths.
Speaker 2: Did Dave Williams call for the burning of flags?
Speaker 6: People?
Speaker 2: It's a simple yes or no question here, it's a
Speaker 2: simple question.
Speaker 6: You're not paying attention to the bit.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna I'm not going to pay attention
Speaker 2: to anything till you answer my little question. You answer
Speaker 2: my question, I'll answer your question. Did Dave Williams call
Speaker 2: for the burning of Gabe? He didn't, And.
Speaker 6: He is against pedophilia and transcendering of our children.
Speaker 2: So when I read his email calling for the burning
Speaker 2: of gay pride flags, that was not him. Did somebody
Speaker 2: did somebody hijack his email?
Speaker 6: He put somebody else's video on there, and you had
Speaker 6: to read the entire thing. You guys do people like
Speaker 6: you don't read the entire thing. You think you see
Speaker 6: part of it, and then you may the judgment call.
Speaker 6: But the bottom line here is you're saying that Dave
Speaker 6: has been replaced and he has not. The State Central
Speaker 6: Committee meeting is this Saturday. Then it will come up
Speaker 6: and we'll discuss it at that time.
Speaker 7: And so the special meeting that was called had any
Speaker 7: authority over the State Central Committee or the State Republican Party.
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, this is enjoyable, this desision.
Speaker 6: For three fifths of the State Central Committee.
Speaker 2: What's so enjoyable about this dysfunction? Again, it is two
Speaker 2: warring poor parties fighting over a postage stamp. This is
Speaker 2: this is how much land you're you're you're doing so
Speaker 2: you're not helping Republicans win, you're bashing other Republicans. You're
Speaker 2: you're not You're not helping people who have lost or
Speaker 2: won their primaries because they didn't like Dave Williams and
Speaker 2: Dave Williams decided to endorse the other candidate. This is
Speaker 2: all just dysfunction, complete dysfunction, And I gotta tell you
Speaker 2: it's comical. It is comical three h three seven one
Speaker 2: three eight two five five seven one three talk the
Speaker 2: procedure said this, and this all right, great, you're gonna
Speaker 2: go to court. Court's gonna figure it out. The National
Speaker 2: Party is going to weigh in, and by the time
Speaker 2: it's solved, the election will be over and Republicans will
Speaker 2: take it on the chin again because Republicans don't like
Speaker 2: dealing with reality, at least in this state. Back after this,
Speaker 2: I'm John Calberian for Capitalis Keep it here six point
Speaker 2: thirty k how.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: I've started to realize just how out of touch many
Speaker 2: hardcore Republicans are in Colorado. In politics, you need to
Speaker 2: accept this reality. In order to win. You need to
Speaker 2: convince people who aren't going to vote for you, your candidate,
Speaker 2: or your cause to vote for you or your candidate
Speaker 2: or your cause, which means when you talk to them,
Speaker 2: you can't think they think the same way you do.
Speaker 2: This is why, over the last decade Colorado has become
Speaker 2: the minority of Republicans have become the minority party in Colorado.
Speaker 2: It used to be the majority. No, Republicans are now
Speaker 2: the minority, and they they have a hard time accepting
Speaker 2: political reality. Reality is that in those swing districts that
Speaker 2: Republicans need to win to get back seats in the
Speaker 2: state legislature, if you have an R behind your name,
Speaker 2: you might as well have a swastika. That's not my opinion.
Speaker 2: That's the opinion of swing voters who are scared of
Speaker 2: Trump and hate him and want to protect abortion rights.
Speaker 2: And those are the people you need to tempt over
Speaker 2: to vote for Republicans. Dave Williams does not do that,
Speaker 2: or put it more simply, politics is the art of addition,
Speaker 2: and Dave Williams and his sycophants believe that politics is
Speaker 2: the art of subtraction. The more you kick people out
Speaker 2: for not being purest enough, the more we're going to
Speaker 2: be able to win in the fall. That's just plain delusional.
Speaker 2: In for in for the big Man, I'm John Kel
Speaker 2: there are three h three seven to one, three eight,
Speaker 2: two five five. Have several callers now talk about how
Speaker 2: how procedurally Dave is still the still the still the guy. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess the RNC and in the courts will decide.
Speaker 2: But to say that that the extremists are not the
Speaker 2: ones in charge of the party that Dave Williams isn't
Speaker 2: the extremist is I think comical? And the guy calls
Speaker 2: for burning gay Pride flags and yes, that's what his
Speaker 2: email said. I read it. When he decides to endorse
Speaker 2: candidates into a primary, that's extreme. You see, the party
Speaker 2: doesn't have many functions anymore now that we have campaign
Speaker 2: finance limits. The party's job is just two things. One
Speaker 2: to run fair primaries to find out who our candidate
Speaker 2: is going to be in the fall, and then two
Speaker 2: to funnel money to them. They cash checks, that's it.
Speaker 2: They cash checks, often from outside groups like the RNC
Speaker 2: or the Republican Governors Association or other groups outside of
Speaker 2: the state to target different races. That's a job. The
Speaker 2: job is to elect Republicans. When you think about it,
Speaker 2: you gotta wonder, is there some George Soros character paying
Speaker 2: off Dave Williams and crew. You've just got a wonder
Speaker 2: And it's it's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: And by the way, even if it was somewhat functional,
Speaker 2: even if Dave was not the chair right now, even
Speaker 2: if he accepted the obvious will of the Central Committee
Speaker 2: and went away, Republicans are still likely to take it
Speaker 2: on the chinn this fall. Trump is on the ballot,
Speaker 2: Abortion will be on the ballot, and that's going to
Speaker 2: bring a lot of folks out.
Speaker 3: One thing that I was thinking too, John, is along
Speaker 3: the exact lines I've been watching this. I talked to
Speaker 3: you during the break. You know, I'm pretty plugged into
Speaker 3: Republican politics like you are. You make appearances, I talk
Speaker 3: to people. If you were trying to lose, like the
Speaker 3: Washington Generals to the Harlem globetrotters, if you were trying
Speaker 3: to sabotage the Colorado Republican Party, what would you be
Speaker 3: doing differently than Dave Williams right now and up till now.
Speaker 2: I would have stopped spending other people's money from the
Speaker 2: party on my personal election, which is a huge violation
Speaker 2: and just completely unethical, And I would I would learn
Speaker 2: to accept the realities that saying things like burning gay
Speaker 2: pride flags is a good thing for for Republicans.
Speaker 3: But see, you're telling me what you would do if
Speaker 3: you want to trying to win. I'm asking you, if
Speaker 3: you're trying to lose, SUBE, if you're going to sabotage
Speaker 3: a sabage, sabotage, burn it down, what would you function?
Speaker 2: Dysfunction in a party guarantees your opponent's win. Matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I remembered eighth grade at Saint Mary's Missus Rinaldo, making
Speaker 2: it clear. When a party splits, the other party wins.
Speaker 2: And it's happened throughout history, and it's happening here. It's
Speaker 2: it's good stuff. Hey, give me a good analogy about
Speaker 2: what's going on in the Colorado Republican Party. I need
Speaker 2: to paint this picture better. Three h three seven to one,
Speaker 2: three eight two five five seven to one three talk
Speaker 2: and for Dan, I'm John Caldrek.
Speaker 3: Keep it here six thirty k How you're listening to
Speaker 3: the Dan Kaplis Show podcast?
Speaker 2: Play man, I can guess the artists on this one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not Donnie and Marie, not quite Tony Orlando. Oh that's
Speaker 2: a good one.
Speaker 3: My dad saw him live twice.
Speaker 2: You're kidding.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2: Oh man. I finally saw Clapton last year for the
Speaker 2: very first time. I'm really glad I did. That was
Speaker 2: kind of a yeah, nostalgic, right. I wish I was
Speaker 2: able to see the Who when Keith Moon was alive,
Speaker 2: but to see Hendrix would have been something to something
Speaker 2: to take for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: And my dad saw Clapton when he was with Cream
Speaker 3: in his prime, late sixties. My dad was everywhere with that.
Speaker 2: Yep, Oh how cool. So my old man, who grew
Speaker 2: up in the Bronx in the time of some big bands,
Speaker 2: get this. You go to radio City or someplace and
Speaker 2: they would have a constant show of a movie and
Speaker 2: then a comedian and then a band. Nice. So think
Speaker 2: of this, he believes. Now he's definitely saw all these people,
Speaker 2: but he thinks it's all on the same show as
Speaker 2: a kid saw whatever movie, followed by Groucho Marx as
Speaker 2: a stand up comedian, followed by Tommy Dorsey Orchestra Wow,
Speaker 2: And Tommy Dorsey Orchestra at the time had the lead
Speaker 2: singer of Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3: That's a list upon a list.
Speaker 2: I mean that's you know for a different generation. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's Hendrix, you know, that's that is as big as
Speaker 2: that is huge totally, So you know, and this I
Speaker 2: can say that when I was a kid, I took
Speaker 2: my little sister to see the Go Gos.
Speaker 3: That's awsome. I always had a big crush on Belinda Carlisle,
Speaker 3: like who didn't.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Nah, are you? Are you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Nat? Remember that there was that that kind of girl
Speaker 2: power pop thing that was going on in a while
Speaker 2: with the Go Gos and No No, who is the
Speaker 2: other one? The other girl band Bengals, Bengals? That was it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bengals, Bananorama, Kelly's rattling all these off. Joan
Speaker 3: Jet was the bad girl that I liked too, Blackheart.
Speaker 2: Yeah she is. I'll put up Chrissy Hine from The Pretenders.
Speaker 2: Love Hill still giving good show.
Speaker 3: Already because she showed a Rush Limba such grace with
Speaker 3: him using her song, which her dad was a big
Speaker 3: fan of his program, even though she.
Speaker 2: Was not a conservative.
Speaker 3: Oh really, and she put out the nicest tweet too
Speaker 3: when Rush passed. Was very graceful and sweet that she
Speaker 3: paid tribute to him, and she took a lot of
Speaker 3: heat for it as well from those those who.
Speaker 2: Probably don't know. The theme song at the beginning of
Speaker 2: every Limbaugh show was was it tearing My City Down?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember my city is gone, My city
Speaker 2: is gone? By the Pretenders, I think she wrote it,
Speaker 2: and so you gotta imagine she hated that rush Limbaugh
Speaker 2: used it.
Speaker 3: At first, she did, my city was gone past tense.
Speaker 3: But then what she the tale she tells is that
Speaker 3: she and her dad, her dad was a conservative, and
Speaker 3: they didn't agree on a lot, so they didn't talk
Speaker 3: a lot, but that that song, when it would come
Speaker 3: on and he knew it was her, kind of made
Speaker 3: his face light up, and it gave them something to
Speaker 3: talk about, and it brought them together. And it's kind
Speaker 3: of a nice story of yesterday.
Speaker 2: Nice story.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw her open for the who the pretenders?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 8: And she said, I want to dedicate this next song
Speaker 8: to the most important organization in America, People for the
Speaker 8: Ethical Treatment of Animals.
Speaker 2: Big into that. Yeah, Yeah, she's big into that and people.
Speaker 2: And her reaction to the booze was that's all right,
Speaker 2: come around sometime, which I thought was, you know, I
Speaker 2: completely disagree with her on it, but it was like,
Speaker 2: what a classy way to handle an audience booing at you. Okay,
Speaker 2: you get there. She's a great lady. I like her
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, yeah, all right, back to what we've
Speaker 2: got here. I'm trying to find the right analogy for
Speaker 2: what's going on with the Colorado Republican Party. I think
Speaker 2: I got one. Here's a writer it says, it feels
Speaker 2: pretty awful knowing that as a Conservative, my home is
Speaker 2: being destroyed by and my party representatives are basically destroying
Speaker 2: each other. It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets
Speaker 2: to save someone that's drowning. I saw them all on
Speaker 2: the streets of Aurora until they put them all in
Speaker 2: the streets at Aurora, till they can learn how to function.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I shall put it this way.
Speaker 2: It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets to save
Speaker 2: someone who's already drowned. I think that will be my
Speaker 2: I think how about this one, John, I'm going to
Speaker 2: wholeheartedly agree with you with a bias and caveat about
Speaker 2: what politics is. The Soviets one political because politically, because
Speaker 2: they were able to screw up two whole generations of
Speaker 2: people in the country to where they would not listen
Speaker 2: to somebody with a different belief Why do you think
Speaker 2: Generation Z is so important? Generation Z still hangs onto
Speaker 2: the BS factor of the environment and doesn't understand cycles
Speaker 2: all right, if Dave is really supporting the Republican Party,
Speaker 2: he would step down because it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: He's just causing disruption. He's not a Republican, He's not
Speaker 2: even a rhino. John. At least the last two callers
Speaker 2: are the reason. The last two callers of the reason
Speaker 2: Republicans have lost the state of Colorado. That's some DK
Speaker 2: and Broomfield. Thanks DK. How about this one to Dan
Speaker 2: Cavilli's you must have some low ratings when John Calferophil
Speaker 2: and he men to that brother strive for right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My goal in life is to ruin his livelihood. If
Speaker 2: I can do that job done, to go to the
Speaker 2: phones and talk to Jan three or three seven, one, three, eight,
Speaker 2: two five five, Jan, welcome here with John.
Speaker 5: Hi, Hi to be here. So so my analogy is
Speaker 5: actually a very short story, so I'll say it quickly.
Speaker 5: I'll try and be succinc So I have a great
Speaker 5: great great uncle that was riding on horse down by
Speaker 5: the Platte River in Littleton. This was in the early
Speaker 5: nineteen hundreds, and the sheriff came along and said to
Speaker 5: him that horse was reported stolen. I'm going to take
Speaker 5: you to jail, and he did, and it was a
Speaker 5: little one room jail, and then the people of the
Speaker 5: town started gossiping, and they said he stole a horse,
Speaker 5: and somebody else said, yeah, he blasted some women too,
Speaker 5: and then pretty soon somebody else said he cheated at cards,
Speaker 5: and somebody else said, hey, he stood up for some
Speaker 5: kids and he had no right to do that. And
Speaker 5: pretty soon they worked themselves into a frenzy and they
Speaker 5: all went down to the jail and said, marshall, you
Speaker 5: need to take care of this. We want to do
Speaker 5: something now. And the marshall said, we need to wait
Speaker 5: for the judge because he will be here in about
Speaker 5: thirty days. Let's hear this out with the judge. And
Speaker 5: the people said, no, we want him now, and so,
Speaker 5: without evidence, without hearing what the truth was, they grabbed
Speaker 5: him out of the jail and went to lynch him.
Speaker 2: And bring that. Bring that to what's going on with
Speaker 2: the GOP here in Colorado today.
Speaker 5: Okay, So there was one hearing where the Executive Committee
Speaker 5: twenty five people met and decided that the petitions were
Speaker 5: erroneous and they said that they don't count. And then
Speaker 5: what has happened is this group of people have said
Speaker 5: we're going to have our meeting regardless, okay.
Speaker 2: Not to get into not to get into the details
Speaker 2: because I get I get the point, I get the
Speaker 2: procedural points. I can see that people say, procedurally, this
Speaker 2: isn't true. So are you Are you comparing Dave Williams
Speaker 2: to the innocent person who was accused of horse thievery
Speaker 2: and then hung.
Speaker 5: Yes, because there hasn't been any hearing for him, and
Speaker 5: this group of people got together to hang him last
Speaker 5: Saturday without the due process that was set up with
Speaker 5: the party, and that due process will happen this Saturday.
Speaker 5: The other point I want to make in it's hand.
Speaker 2: In a second, the other side, and I know many
Speaker 2: people on it give similar procedural reasons why it was
Speaker 2: completely legitimate. And I am satisfied that a majority of
Speaker 2: people on the Central Committee wished to oust him. So
Speaker 2: I'll ask you this. I'll ask you this. Should the
Speaker 2: RNC or a judge come in and say no, that
Speaker 2: vote was legitimate, you are out. Here's the court order
Speaker 2: for you to give the keys to the office to
Speaker 2: this other guy. Will you respect that?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: So, first of all, it's not a simple majority to oust.
Speaker 5: It should be three fifths of the whole body.
Speaker 2: You get my larger point. Let me try this again.
Speaker 2: If a judge agrees with the people who met and
Speaker 2: ousted him, will you.
Speaker 5: Accept that it's there? Yeah. I mean if the RNC
Speaker 5: or a judge says that that's true, and I think
Speaker 5: they will stand with that, I don't believe Dave won't.
Speaker 5: But what I do believe is is this lynching that's
Speaker 5: going on that isn't acceptable. And then do you believe.
Speaker 2: That do you believe that Dave went to extraordinary circumstances
Speaker 2: to make it difficult to have that vote, including having
Speaker 2: a meeting under a bridge?
Speaker 5: He had the meeting under a bridge because the other
Speaker 5: side went in and signed up for the structure that
Speaker 5: was there and put money down so the meeting couldn't
Speaker 5: be heard there.
Speaker 2: So no, My question was do you believe that Dave
Speaker 2: Williams went to a great extent to make it difficult
Speaker 2: to have this vote? No?
Speaker 6: Absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 5: He's been fourth right, the party has been notified of
Speaker 5: what's going on.
Speaker 2: And that's so we have we have to wait until
Speaker 2: the RNC or a judge weighs in and then you
Speaker 2: and Dave Williams.
Speaker 7: Will it'll be Saturday and Saturday and the other group
Speaker 7: has canceled the meeting so by one by one play
Speaker 7: it's been canceled by another.
Speaker 2: That's going on. It's all very entertaining. I got to
Speaker 2: run to a break. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 5: Hold on, let me say one more thing.
Speaker 2: Minute late for break, Go ahead and get it out.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, okay. So Monday night, the Greeley School Board
Speaker 5: voted to allow kids to change their names to wear
Speaker 5: clothes they want. And teachers are in trouble if they
Speaker 5: tell their the parents what's going on. That's what they
Speaker 5: voted on Monday night. And so that is grooming, and
Speaker 5: that is what what does that.
Speaker 2: Have to do with the topic we're talking about, because.
Speaker 5: That is what Dave Williams is speaking up against, is grooming.
Speaker 5: He's not speaking there, and.
Speaker 2: So have I many and I've done so without saying
Speaker 2: we should burn flag about it.
Speaker 5: If we don't speak up about it, people aren't going
Speaker 5: to be aware.
Speaker 2: Got it all right? Thank you for the call. Gotta
Speaker 2: go three oh three uh seven one three eight two
Speaker 2: five five. By the way, I agree completely with our
Speaker 2: last caller. We gotta sat in a light on this
Speaker 2: grooming and it's and it is awful and it's ridiculous
Speaker 2: calling for people to burn gay pride flags is not
Speaker 2: the way to do it. Back after this, keep it
Speaker 2: on six thirty k how.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: You gotta admit this is a good opener. I miss
Speaker 2: I miss Rush. Yeah, it's iconic.
Speaker 3: You hear it. You know what it means.
Speaker 2: You know what it means. He never changed it over
Speaker 2: all of his years. Nope, I never liked it. He's
Speaker 2: showing my age when Johnny Carson would change up his set,
Speaker 2: you know, and the curtain that he you have would change.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, the old colored one. I like the
Speaker 2: one with all the colors. Yeah, yeah, and uh this
Speaker 2: it was just it was just great. And I believe
Speaker 2: the Pretenders continue to play that song in concert without
Speaker 2: any hesitation, even though they hated the man or hated
Speaker 2: what he stood for. Right, Hey, three or three seven, one,
Speaker 2: three eight, two five five In for Capitalists, I'm John
Speaker 2: Caldera to the phones. We go to justin justin good evening.
Speaker 2: You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 4: Hey, John, how you doing here?
Speaker 3: For you?
Speaker 4: Well, I want to go back to the day of
Speaker 4: fans tracks. I'll change topics a little bit. RTD has
Speaker 4: the trains going ten miles an hour because they don't
Speaker 4: do regular maintenance into a Roncos game. To me, an
Speaker 4: hour and a half from Little Tin to Downtownship be
Speaker 4: like a twenty three minute ride. And of change trains.
Speaker 4: I want to give you a little feather in your
Speaker 4: cap about that. What was it back in the mid nineties,
Speaker 4: you and the independence in the institute, we're saying the
Speaker 4: fast tracks to be a told of fastertainin.
Speaker 2: I led the campaign against what was called Guide the
Speaker 2: Ride in nineteen ninety seven. They came back with like
Speaker 2: four times more money in two thousand and four and
Speaker 2: passed fast tracks against our very clear information that it
Speaker 2: was a scam. RTD is not about moving people. RTD
Speaker 2: is about moving money once you understand and accept that
Speaker 2: everything else makes sense, moving.
Speaker 4: Money to the people that are not taxpayers. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so I don't know if you know that the news
Speaker 4: lately left or three months the trains have been going
Speaker 4: ten miles an hour instead of fifty five. Have you
Speaker 4: heard about that story?
Speaker 2: And think about that. These tracks are relatively new, they
Speaker 2: should last thirty years before they need to be replaced.
Speaker 2: And it's still not work. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's and
Speaker 2: remember we were supposed to get some relief from traffic
Speaker 2: is a relief in traffic, and here no, In fact,
Speaker 2: what it's done is guaranteed traffic because it takes the
Speaker 2: space that could be used for carpool lanes or bus
Speaker 2: lanes or even general purpose lanes away. The real cost
Speaker 2: of rail, if you take anything, the real cost of
Speaker 2: rail is the right of way that when you take
Speaker 2: away the right of way that could be used for
Speaker 2: something that relieves traffic and puts on something that keeps
Speaker 2: a government monopoly in place. And that's the only reason
Speaker 2: for rail is to keep other competitors off. You realize
Speaker 2: what a waste it is. Think of the rail going
Speaker 2: down to the tech center on I twenty five. That
Speaker 2: could be a bus lane that could be having transit
Speaker 2: fly at full speed doing express routes. Whenever you see
Speaker 2: a railroad track for RTD, you look at it and
Speaker 2: a car goes by and you go, oh, that's not
Speaker 2: don't look at it when a car goes by, look
Speaker 2: at it when there's no car on it. It's like
Speaker 2: looking at a lane of highway you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: drive on. In fact, no one's driving on it, and
Speaker 2: then fifteen minutes later a car goes by and then
Speaker 2: it's empty. If there was a lane next to you
Speaker 2: that was treated that way, you'd lose your stuff. And
Speaker 2: that's what it is. Hey, I'm John Caldera. Check out
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