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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Caplis is not here. I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>the CU game. That'll be okay. You know, Dan and

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<v Speaker 2>I are alike in a lot of ways, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>really opposite in a lot of ways. We both think

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<v Speaker 2>his wife is spectacular. True, we have the same values

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<v Speaker 2>on a lot of governmental issues. True, we both love

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<v Speaker 2>our kids. True. But I think he actually has pride

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<v Speaker 2>from graduating from CEU.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh big time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's just nutbags. I mean, that's that makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>See you is a factory of socialism. It pumps out

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<v Speaker 2>out people who are socialists. It is tax money going

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<v Speaker 2>to socialism. I understand people have a great time in college,

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<v Speaker 2>and and by the way, people's great time in college

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really happen. I think for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>college is an angst ridden, anxiety filled weird thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the rearview mirror it gets very very rosy. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>no pride, no SeeU pride here. And yet John, you

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<v Speaker 2>still live in Boulder, don't you? Yes? How, yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>How people's Republic of Boulder, how partly because it really

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<v Speaker 2>pisses people off. I mean I Bolder, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>this sincerely. Bolder is the most intolerant, hateful town in

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<v Speaker 2>the state.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's full of elitists who claim they support diversity intolerance.

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<v Speaker 2>But really that's only if you're a liberal or progressive,

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<v Speaker 2>then they can tolerate you. If your gun owner, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they hate you. If you're a conservative, no, they hate you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've been here for so long that it was

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<v Speaker 2>my town before it was their town.

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<v Speaker 3>So they can't take that from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they can. They have. I'm sure I'm a criminal

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<v Speaker 2>by their gun laws and everything else. But no, And

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to know the truth, back in college,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my house, I sitting out on the

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<v Speaker 2>stoop one day and a beautiful, gorgeous topless woman walks by,

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<v Speaker 2>cuts across my lawn and to go down the road,

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<v Speaker 2>and I look at her, smile and wave. She looks

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<v Speaker 2>at me and smiles and waves. And for the last

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<v Speaker 2>forty years I have been waiting on my stoop for

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<v Speaker 2>that woman to come back, and until she does, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>staying in Boulder. A guy can dream. That guy can

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<v Speaker 2>dream dream three or three seven, one, three, eight, two

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<v Speaker 2>five five The Land of the Last Hours. Talking to Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't really have time to fairly answer the question.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to make the case that the current GOP

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<v Speaker 2>chair is still in power because of all these parliamentary reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>which will let a judge decide, because a judge will

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<v Speaker 2>end up deciding this. But the way he was doing

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded very much like the way election deniers say

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump didn't win the election. I asked him this question,

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<v Speaker 2>did Trump lose the election or win the election? So

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I'd leave him on just for enough to

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<v Speaker 2>answer that question, Brad, did Trump win?

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<v Speaker 4>Did Trump win the election?

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<v Speaker 5>The answer is I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>The answer is there was four hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>new vot placed on our voter roles in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, now you're gonna give all the stop stop

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<v Speaker 2>stop stop stop stop stop, no goodbye. Let me put

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<v Speaker 2>you on hold because you don't want to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>You just want to put out your conspiracy theories about

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Williams okay, so you, But I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>make it clear. If I let you ramble, you were

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<v Speaker 2>my turn. If I were to let you ramble, you

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<v Speaker 2>would be rambling on about all the inconsistencies in the election,

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<v Speaker 2>giving giving evidence that Trump could very easily have won.

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<v Speaker 2>Would I be right?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, all right, We don't know how those

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<v Speaker 2>We have no idea, but we have questions. My god,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and so Dave Williams. At the end of

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<v Speaker 2>all this legal maneuvering, and when the courts and the

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<v Speaker 2>National Party have to decide, do you think Dave Williams

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<v Speaker 5>Power again, that's up to the Central Committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, oh my god, have a nice day. When somebody

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<v Speaker 2>has a strength to give me some straight answers, please

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<v Speaker 2>give me a call three h three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>eight two five five seven to one three talk. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to do any sort of talk show voodoo

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<v Speaker 2>on somebody. I just want some straight answers. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>The straight answer is that a huge majority of the

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<v Speaker 2>Central Committee have expressed they want Dave Williams out. Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Williams is using every last legal maneuver to stay in power.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the truth. That is the only truth there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty percent of them voted to yank him. Well, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of those were proxies. The majority of those were proxies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you give your a proxy to somebody, it

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<v Speaker 2>has the full force and weight of your vote. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to the thrones. Talk to Susie. Hey, Susie, you're

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<v Speaker 2>with John Calderow. Welcome, Susan.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, Susan, Susan, Okay, sorry, Yes, I am a Republican,

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<v Speaker 6>but I am not a member of the SEC. And

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<v Speaker 6>we all know that the meeting last Saturday was illegitimate

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<v Speaker 6>and that the rn C has weighed in on this,

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<v Speaker 6>and they did call it illegitimate. So they have not

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<v Speaker 6>been removed.

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<v Speaker 5>And that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely opposite of what I heard. Because the spokesman of.

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<v Speaker 6>You may afford you the letter from the rn C, please,

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<v Speaker 6>I can avoided you. I'll be the documentation here and

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<v Speaker 6>I can also show you that they were told the

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<v Speaker 6>question tolf of the Cholera Republican Party. So let me

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<v Speaker 6>do that, all right, Well, no, you're es for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you the question, do you believe a

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the Central Committee has expressed their viewpoint that

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<v Speaker 2>they want Dave Williams gone.

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<v Speaker 6>No, the SEC meeting is not until the thirty first,

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<v Speaker 6>and we know the bulk of the SEC is with

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<v Speaker 7>How can that be when because meeting with the fringe

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<v Speaker 7>minority of seventy seven people.

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<v Speaker 6>With enough vote so the proxies do not even count.

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<v Speaker 2>What will it take for you to be convinced that

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Williams is ousted?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I will be there at the SEC on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 6>I invite you to come.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask you that. No, I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care about the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>You've I've had it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had it with a dysfunction. I've had it with

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<v Speaker 2>the inefficiencies.

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<v Speaker 6>I've had it since minority that's been doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, did a fringe minority shop? Did a fringe minority

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<v Speaker 2>call for the burning of gay pride flags? Did a

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<v Speaker 2>fringe minority? Did a fringe minority? Did a fringe minority

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<v Speaker 2>endorse eighteen candidates in the primary for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado history, fourteen of which lost. Was that a

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<v Speaker 2>fringe minority.

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<v Speaker 6>Should calling money from our candidates?

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<v Speaker 2>Did a fringe minority call for the banning and burning

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<v Speaker 2>of flags.

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<v Speaker 6>Gays against Groomers did that?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I know Gays against Groomers and they never called

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<v Speaker 2>to burning flags.

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<v Speaker 6>Talk to them again about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the head of Gays against Groomers and he did.

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<v Speaker 6>Not call for burn Again about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I asked you, did a fringe minority or did Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Williams call for the burning of gay pride flags?

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<v Speaker 6>Extringe minority does not speak the State Central Committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Dave I'm Williams call for the burning of flags?

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<v Speaker 6>It takes three sixths.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Dave Williams call for the burning of flags?

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<v Speaker 6>People?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a simple yes or no question here, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>simple question.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not paying attention to the bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not gonna I'm not going to pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to anything till you answer my little question. You answer

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<v Speaker 2>my question, I'll answer your question. Did Dave Williams call

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<v Speaker 2>for the burning of Gabe? He didn't, And.

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<v Speaker 6>He is against pedophilia and transcendering of our children.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I read his email calling for the burning

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<v Speaker 2>of gay pride flags, that was not him. Did somebody

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<v Speaker 2>did somebody hijack his email?

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<v Speaker 6>He put somebody else's video on there, and you had

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<v Speaker 6>to read the entire thing. You guys do people like

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<v Speaker 6>you don't read the entire thing. You think you see

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<v Speaker 6>part of it, and then you may the judgment call.

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<v Speaker 6>But the bottom line here is you're saying that Dave

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<v Speaker 6>has been replaced and he has not. The State Central

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<v Speaker 6>Committee meeting is this Saturday. Then it will come up

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll discuss it at that time.

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<v Speaker 7>And so the special meeting that was called had any

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<v Speaker 7>authority over the State Central Committee or the State Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you, this is enjoyable, this desision.

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<v Speaker 6>For three fifths of the State Central Committee.

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<v Speaker 2>What's so enjoyable about this dysfunction? Again, it is two

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<v Speaker 2>warring poor parties fighting over a postage stamp. This is

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<v Speaker 2>this is how much land you're you're you're doing so

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<v Speaker 2>you're not helping Republicans win, you're bashing other Republicans. You're

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<v Speaker 2>you're not You're not helping people who have lost or

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<v Speaker 2>won their primaries because they didn't like Dave Williams and

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Williams decided to endorse the other candidate. This is

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<v Speaker 2>all just dysfunction, complete dysfunction, And I gotta tell you

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<v Speaker 2>it's comical. It is comical three h three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five seven one three talk the

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<v Speaker 2>procedure said this, and this all right, great, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to court. Court's gonna figure it out. The National

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<v Speaker 2>Party is going to weigh in, and by the time

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<v Speaker 2>it's solved, the election will be over and Republicans will

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<v Speaker 2>take it on the chin again because Republicans don't like

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with reality, at least in this state. Back after this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm John Calberian for Capitalis Keep it here six point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty k how.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I've started to realize just how out of touch many

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore Republicans are in Colorado. In politics, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>accept this reality. In order to win. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>convince people who aren't going to vote for you, your candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>or your cause to vote for you or your candidate

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<v Speaker 2>or your cause, which means when you talk to them,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't think they think the same way you do.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why, over the last decade Colorado has become

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<v Speaker 2>the minority of Republicans have become the minority party in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be the majority. No, Republicans are now

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<v Speaker 2>the minority, and they they have a hard time accepting

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<v Speaker 2>political reality. Reality is that in those swing districts that

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans need to win to get back seats in the

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<v Speaker 2>state legislature, if you have an R behind your name,

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<v Speaker 2>you might as well have a swastika. That's not my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the opinion of swing voters who are scared of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and hate him and want to protect abortion rights.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are the people you need to tempt over

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for Republicans. Dave Williams does not do that,

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<v Speaker 2>or put it more simply, politics is the art of addition,

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<v Speaker 2>the art of subtraction. The more you kick people out

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<v Speaker 2>be able to win in the fall. That's just plain delusional.

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<v Speaker 2>there are three h three seven to one, three eight,

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<v Speaker 2>how procedurally Dave is still the still the still the guy. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the RNC and in the courts will decide.

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<v Speaker 2>But to say that that the extremists are not the

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<v Speaker 2>the extremist is I think comical? And the guy calls

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have many functions anymore now that we have campaign

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<v Speaker 2>finance limits. The party's job is just two things. One

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<v Speaker 2>to run fair primaries to find out who our candidate

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<v Speaker 2>to funnel money to them. They cash checks, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>They cash checks, often from outside groups like the RNC

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<v Speaker 2>or the Republican Governors Association or other groups outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the state to target different races. That's a job. The

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta wonder, is there some George Soros character paying

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's sad. It's sad.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, even if it was somewhat functional,

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<v Speaker 2>if he accepted the obvious will of the Central Committee

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<v Speaker 2>and went away, Republicans are still likely to take it

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<v Speaker 2>on the chinn this fall. Trump is on the ballot,

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<v Speaker 3>One thing that I was thinking too, John, is along

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<v Speaker 3>the exact lines I've been watching this. I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>you during the break. You know, I'm pretty plugged into

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<v Speaker 3>Republican politics like you are. You make appearances, I talk

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<v Speaker 3>Washington Generals to the Harlem globetrotters, if you were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to sabotage the Colorado Republican Party, what would you be

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<v Speaker 3>doing differently than Dave Williams right now and up till now.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have stopped spending other people's money from the

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<v Speaker 2>party on my personal election, which is a huge violation

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<v Speaker 2>and just completely unethical, And I would I would learn

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<v Speaker 2>to accept the realities that saying things like burning gay

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<v Speaker 3>But see, you're telling me what you would do if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to trying to win. I'm asking you, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to lose, SUBE, if you're going to sabotage

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<v Speaker 3>a sabage, sabotage, burn it down, what would you function?

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<v Speaker 2>Dysfunction in a party guarantees your opponent's win. Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I remembered eighth grade at Saint Mary's Missus Rinaldo, making

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<v Speaker 2>And it's happened throughout history, and it's happening here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's good stuff. Hey, give me a good analogy about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in the Colorado Republican Party. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to paint this picture better. Three h three seven to one,

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it here six thirty k How you're listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the Dan Kaplis Show podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Play man, I can guess the artists on this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not Donnie and Marie, not quite Tony Orlando. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad saw him live twice.

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<v Speaker 2>You're kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I'm so jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man. I finally saw Clapton last year for the

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<v Speaker 2>very first time. I'm really glad I did. That was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a yeah, nostalgic, right. I wish I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to see the Who when Keith Moon was alive,

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<v Speaker 2>but to see Hendrix would have been something to something

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<v Speaker 2>to take for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>And my dad saw Clapton when he was with Cream

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<v Speaker 3>in his prime, late sixties. My dad was everywhere with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Oh how cool. So my old man, who grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in the Bronx in the time of some big bands,

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<v Speaker 2>get this. You go to radio City or someplace and

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<v Speaker 2>they would have a constant show of a movie and

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<v Speaker 2>then a comedian and then a band. Nice. So think

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<v Speaker 2>of this, he believes. Now he's definitely saw all these people,

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<v Speaker 2>but he thinks it's all on the same show as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid saw whatever movie, followed by Groucho Marx as

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<v Speaker 2>a stand up comedian, followed by Tommy Dorsey Orchestra Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>That's a list upon a list.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's you know for a different generation. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Hendrix, you know, that's that is as big as

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<v Speaker 2>that is huge totally, So you know, and this I

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<v Speaker 2>can say that when I was a kid, I took

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<v Speaker 2>my little sister to see the Go Gos.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awsome. I always had a big crush on Belinda Carlisle,

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<v Speaker 3>like who didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, Nah, are you? Are you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Nat? Remember that there was that that kind of girl

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<v Speaker 2>with the Go Gos and No No, who is the

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<v Speaker 2>other one? The other girl band Bengals, Bengals? That was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Bengals, Bananorama, Kelly's rattling all these off. Joan

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<v Speaker 3>Jet was the bad girl that I liked too, Blackheart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah she is. I'll put up Chrissy Hine from The Pretenders.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Hill still giving good show.

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<v Speaker 3>Already because she showed a Rush Limba such grace with

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<v Speaker 2>Was not a conservative.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, and she put out the nicest tweet too

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<v Speaker 3>when Rush passed. Was very graceful and sweet that she

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<v Speaker 3>heat for it as well from those those who.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably don't know. The theme song at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>every Limbaugh show was was it tearing My City Down?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember my city is gone, My city

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<v Speaker 2>is gone? By the Pretenders, I think she wrote it,

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<v Speaker 3>At first, she did, my city was gone past tense.

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<v Speaker 3>But then what she the tale she tells is that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, but that that song, when it would come

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<v Speaker 3>of a nice story of yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw her open for the who the pretenders?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 8>And she said, I want to dedicate this next song

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<v Speaker 8>to the most important organization in America, People for the

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<v Speaker 2>Big into that. Yeah, Yeah, she's big into that and people.

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<v Speaker 2>And her reaction to the booze was that's all right,

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<v Speaker 2>what a classy way to handle an audience booing at you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you get there. She's a great lady. I like her

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. Yeah, yeah, all right, back to what we've

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<v Speaker 2>got here. I'm trying to find the right analogy for

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<v Speaker 2>I got one. Here's a writer it says, it feels

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<v Speaker 2>pretty awful knowing that as a Conservative, my home is

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<v Speaker 2>being destroyed by and my party representatives are basically destroying

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<v Speaker 2>each other. It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets

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<v Speaker 2>to save someone that's drowning. I saw them all on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets of Aurora until they put them all in

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<v Speaker 2>the streets at Aurora, till they can learn how to function.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. I shall put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets to save

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's already drowned. I think that will be my

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<v Speaker 2>I think how about this one, John, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>wholeheartedly agree with you with a bias and caveat about

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<v Speaker 2>what politics is. The Soviets one political because politically, because

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to screw up two whole generations of

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<v Speaker 2>people in the country to where they would not listen

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody with a different belief Why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Generation Z is so important? Generation Z still hangs onto

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<v Speaker 2>all right, if Dave is really supporting the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 2>he would step down because it's the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just causing disruption. He's not a Republican, He's not

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<v Speaker 2>even a rhino. John. At least the last two callers

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<v Speaker 2>are the reason. The last two callers of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans have lost the state of Colorado. That's some DK

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<v Speaker 2>and Broomfield. Thanks DK. How about this one to Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Cavilli's you must have some low ratings when John Calferophil

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<v Speaker 2>and he men to that brother strive for right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My goal in life is to ruin his livelihood. If

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that job done, to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>phones and talk to Jan three or three seven, one, three, eight,

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Hi to be here. So so my analogy is

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<v Speaker 5>I'll try and be succinc So I have a great

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<v Speaker 5>him that horse was reported stolen. I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 5>you to jail, and he did, and it was a

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<v Speaker 5>and somebody else said, yeah, he blasted some women too,

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<v Speaker 5>and somebody else said, hey, he stood up for some

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<v Speaker 5>pretty soon they worked themselves into a frenzy and they

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<v Speaker 5>all went down to the jail and said, marshall, you

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<v Speaker 5>need to take care of this. We want to do

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<v Speaker 5>something now. And the marshall said, we need to wait

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<v Speaker 5>the people said, no, we want him now, and so,

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<v Speaker 2>And bring that. Bring that to what's going on with

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So there was one hearing where the Executive Committee

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five people met and decided that the petitions were

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<v Speaker 5>erroneous and they said that they don't count. And then

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<v Speaker 5>what has happened is this group of people have said

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<v Speaker 2>Not to get into not to get into the details

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<v Speaker 2>procedural points. I can see that people say, procedurally, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't true. So are you Are you comparing Dave Williams

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<v Speaker 2>to the innocent person who was accused of horse thievery

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<v Speaker 2>and then hung.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because there hasn't been any hearing for him, and

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<v Speaker 5>this group of people got together to hang him last

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<v Speaker 5>Saturday without the due process that was set up with

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<v Speaker 5>the party, and that due process will happen this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>The other point I want to make in it's hand.

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<v Speaker 2>In a second, the other side, and I know many

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<v Speaker 2>people on it give similar procedural reasons why it was

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<v Speaker 2>completely legitimate. And I am satisfied that a majority of

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<v Speaker 2>people on the Central Committee wished to oust him. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ask you this. I'll ask you this. Should the

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<v Speaker 2>RNC or a judge come in and say no, that

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<v Speaker 2>vote was legitimate, you are out. Here's the court order

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<v Speaker 2>for you to give the keys to the office to

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<v Speaker 2>this other guy. Will you respect that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>So, first of all, it's not a simple majority to oust.

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<v Speaker 5>It should be three fifths of the whole body.

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<v Speaker 2>You get my larger point. Let me try this again.

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<v Speaker 2>If a judge agrees with the people who met and

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<v Speaker 2>ousted him, will you.

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<v Speaker 5>Accept that it's there? Yeah. I mean if the RNC

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<v Speaker 5>or a judge says that that's true, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>they will stand with that, I don't believe Dave won't.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I do believe is is this lynching that's

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<v Speaker 5>going on that isn't acceptable. And then do you believe.

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<v Speaker 2>That do you believe that Dave went to extraordinary circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>to make it difficult to have that vote, including having

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting under a bridge?

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<v Speaker 5>He had the meeting under a bridge because the other

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<v Speaker 5>side went in and signed up for the structure that

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<v Speaker 5>was there and put money down so the meeting couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be heard there.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, My question was do you believe that Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Williams went to a great extent to make it difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to have this vote? No?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely not, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been fourth right, the party has been notified of

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's so we have we have to wait until

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<v Speaker 2>the RNC or a judge weighs in and then you

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<v Speaker 2>and Dave Williams.

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<v Speaker 7>Will it'll be Saturday and Saturday and the other group

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<v Speaker 7>has canceled the meeting so by one by one play

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<v Speaker 7>it's been canceled by another.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going on. It's all very entertaining. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>run to a break. Thanks for the call.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on, let me say one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Minute late for break, Go ahead and get it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, okay. So Monday night, the Greeley School Board

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<v Speaker 5>voted to allow kids to change their names to wear

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<v Speaker 5>clothes they want. And teachers are in trouble if they

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<v Speaker 5>tell their the parents what's going on. That's what they

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<v Speaker 5>voted on Monday night. And so that is grooming, and

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<v Speaker 5>that is what what does that.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to do with the topic we're talking about, because.

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<v Speaker 5>That is what Dave Williams is speaking up against, is grooming.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not speaking there, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So have I many and I've done so without saying

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<v Speaker 2>we should burn flag about it.

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<v Speaker 5>If we don't speak up about it, people aren't going

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<v Speaker 5>to be aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it all right? Thank you for the call. Gotta

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<v Speaker 2>go three oh three uh seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five. By the way, I agree completely with our

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<v Speaker 2>last caller. We gotta sat in a light on this

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<v Speaker 2>grooming and it's and it is awful and it's ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>calling for people to burn gay pride flags is not

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<v Speaker 2>the way to do it. Back after this, keep it

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<v Speaker 2>on six thirty k how.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta admit this is a good opener. I miss

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<v Speaker 2>I miss Rush. Yeah, it's iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear it. You know what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it means. He never changed it over

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<v Speaker 2>all of his years. Nope, I never liked it. He's

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<v Speaker 2>showing my age when Johnny Carson would change up his set,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and the curtain that he you have would change.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, the old colored one. I like the

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<v Speaker 2>one with all the colors. Yeah, yeah, and uh this

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<v Speaker 2>it was just it was just great. And I believe

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<v Speaker 2>the Pretenders continue to play that song in concert without

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<v Speaker 2>any hesitation, even though they hated the man or hated

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<v Speaker 2>what he stood for. Right, Hey, three or three seven, one,

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<v Speaker 2>three eight, two five five In for Capitalists, I'm John

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<v Speaker 2>Caldera to the phones. We go to justin justin good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>You're with John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, John, how you doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>For you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I want to go back to the day of

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<v Speaker 4>fans tracks. I'll change topics a little bit. RTD has

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<v Speaker 4>the trains going ten miles an hour because they don't

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<v Speaker 4>do regular maintenance into a Roncos game. To me, an

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<v Speaker 4>hour and a half from Little Tin to Downtownship be

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<v Speaker 4>like a twenty three minute ride. And of change trains.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to give you a little feather in your

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<v Speaker 4>cap about that. What was it back in the mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 4>you and the independence in the institute, we're saying the

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<v Speaker 4>fast tracks to be a told of fastertainin.

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<v Speaker 2>I led the campaign against what was called Guide the

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<v Speaker 2>Ride in nineteen ninety seven. They came back with like

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<v Speaker 2>four times more money in two thousand and four and

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<v Speaker 2>passed fast tracks against our very clear information that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a scam. RTD is not about moving people. RTD

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<v Speaker 2>is about moving money once you understand and accept that

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<v Speaker 2>everything else makes sense, moving.

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<v Speaker 4>Money to the people that are not taxpayers. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I don't know if you know that the news

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<v Speaker 4>lately left or three months the trains have been going

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<v Speaker 4>ten miles an hour instead of fifty five. Have you

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<v Speaker 4>heard about that story?

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<v Speaker 2>And think about that. These tracks are relatively new, they

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<v Speaker 2>should last thirty years before they need to be replaced.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's still not work. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's and

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<v Speaker 2>remember we were supposed to get some relief from traffic

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<v Speaker 2>is a relief in traffic, and here no, In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>what it's done is guaranteed traffic because it takes the

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<v Speaker 2>space that could be used for carpool lanes or bus

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<v Speaker 2>lanes or even general purpose lanes away. The real cost

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<v Speaker 2>of rail, if you take anything, the real cost of

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<v Speaker 2>rail is the right of way that when you take

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<v Speaker 2>away the right of way that could be used for

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<v Speaker 2>something that relieves traffic and puts on something that keeps

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<v Speaker 2>a government monopoly in place. And that's the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>for rail is to keep other competitors off. You realize

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<v Speaker 2>what a waste it is. Think of the rail going

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<v Speaker 2>down to the tech center on I twenty five. That

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<v Speaker 2>could be a bus lane that could be having transit

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<v Speaker 2>fly at full speed doing express routes. Whenever you see

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<v Speaker 2>a railroad track for RTD, you look at it and

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<v Speaker 2>a car goes by and you go, oh, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>don't look at it when a car goes by, look

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<v Speaker 2>at it when there's no car on it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a lane of highway you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>drive on. In fact, no one's driving on it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then fifteen minutes later a car goes by and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's empty. If there was a lane next to you

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<v Speaker 2>that was treated that way, you'd lose your stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. Hey, I'm John Caldera. Check out

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<v Speaker 2>the Independence Institute. Go to thinkfreedom dot org. That's thinkfreedom

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<v Speaker 2>dot org. Sign up for my newsletter. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>keep in touch with you, and by all means, keep

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<v Speaker 2>it here here on six thirty K how