1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, we're on a short break and hope you're 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,719 enjoying the holidays too. But just in case you're missing 3 00:00:04,759 --> 00:00:07,200 your daily dose of the Chicks, we got something special 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:07,480 for you. 5 00:00:07,799 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. We hope you enjoy this replay of one of 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,279 our favorite interviews, and be sure to tune back in 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,560 this year for some exciting new conversations that we have 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,640 coming up. And don't forget to follow and subscribe on YouTube, 9 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:21,839 Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts link 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,399 in bio. 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Look at who we have. 12 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: Gosh, oh my gosh, I love him. He is so great? 13 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,480 He is is he really? Is it really him? Or 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,679 you guys? Just oh my god? How did you get him? 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,880 How did we get here? 16 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: Just a couple of a couple of Glenn Beck? Oh 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,640 my god. 18 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean you barely need introduction, but just to get 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,600 it out a way for the for the losers out 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,280 there who. 21 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:57,479 Speaker 3: Don't know who this is, for the lucky ones, really 22 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,399 for the lucky ones. 23 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: He is a syndicated radio host, CEO and founder of 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Mercury Radio Arts, the parent company The Blaze. He is 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,959 host of the Glenn Beck TV program. He is the 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,480 author of six new York Times best Selling Books, the latest, 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,519 which we now have a copy of. 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,359 Speaker 1: What is it ten? 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got gold. 30 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:27,239 Speaker 2: Wow, we've got Okay, apologize, but this is the latest. 31 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:31,040 This is the latest. It's called Chasing Embers. Tell us 32 00:01:31,079 --> 00:01:32,680 all about it, because we haven't had a chance yet 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:32,959 to read it. 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: We just got them. 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,879 Speaker 3: Oh so I could tell you anything. 36 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:36,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell us anything. 37 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: We believe it. Actually, let me tell you why, how 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,439 the premise came, and then why I wrote it. This 39 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,280 book started. I write stories in my head all the time, 40 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:51,640 and and this one has been in my head since 41 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:55,200 about two thousand, I don't know, six or seven. And 42 00:01:55,239 --> 00:01:58,239 I was reading Karl Marx, and if you've ever read 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,239 Carl Marx, you're like, this time doesn't make any sense. 44 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:06,159 How does anyone believe this? And it's just all against 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,800 human nature and everything else. And I thought, what is 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,319 the draw to him? And in America and the West, 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,719 I think it's because you know, he's the rebel, he's 48 00:02:16,759 --> 00:02:20,319 the radical, he's the one against the system man. And 49 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:24,400 I thought, you read him, and then you read Jefferson 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,120 or Adams or you know, any of them, and there 51 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:32,879 is such a difference, and it's so clear when you're 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,039 reading these guys, And I thought, what is it going 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:40,719 to take before Jefferson is a revolutionary again and not 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,719 the stuff shirt, you know what I mean? And I thought, 55 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:47,479 you know, I think he's I think it's going to 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,280 take the loss of those and making them very unpopular 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,479 to radicalize them again and have you know, kids reading 58 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:02,680 it when it's absolutely not supposed to be read. That's no, 59 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,960 you don't do that. That's when they'll start discovering these 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,599 guys again. And so that led me to a series 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,599 of thoughts of you know, how do we preserve that 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,080 for that generation and what could happen? And so I 63 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:23,039 came up with this dystopian world where a public private 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:29,159 partnership has put together these these cities, and everybody lives 65 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:31,159 in these cities and it's all going to be great. 66 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:34,280 It's all of the WEF stuff, the World Economic Forum stuff, 67 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:40,800 except it failed. And so these are failing cities. But 68 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:45,319 it's very very dystopian. And the parents who would be 69 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:50,719 you know us now or the next generation that lived 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,800 at these times, anyone who just didn't buy into the 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:01,280 whole WEF thing, they're kind of liquidated. And so there's 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,439 a group of people that have tried to preserve what 73 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:08,599 they could remember and write it down because all books 74 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:14,879 have been banned now and history meets kind of games 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,759 meets yeah, yeah, it is kind of and and nineteen 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,160 eighty four as well, and and so these what's left 77 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:30,160 are these kids with memories of their you know, rebellious 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,319 parents who are just trying to keep record in their 79 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 mind and then write it down and smuggle it out 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,399 to the cities, to these rebels that you don't know 81 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:44,120 much about at first, that are the public enemy number one. 82 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,399 And all they you find out, all they're trying to 83 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:52,199 do is reproduce a library. They're trying to collect all 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,120 of the history that's now forbidden and teach it to 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,000 their kids in an oral fashion. And so the book 86 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:07,600 takes place in this place called Topos. It's a it's 87 00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:10,879 a dystopian kind of I don't know. I always think 88 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:15,959 of it as almost like Ebcot, where nothing's real, and 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,120 it's just very dystopian. But these kids, one of them 90 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:25,040 remembers their mom and dad being taken and liquidated, and 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,319 she wants to be part of the crowd. You know, 92 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,879 She's given the opportunity for some reason by the higher 93 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:37,920 ups to become one of the rebel hunters, if you will, 94 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:41,040 to just mix in with your friends and find out 95 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:44,120 who's sharing things that you know they shouldn't be sharing. 96 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,759 And she's given these kind of these tokens that she 97 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,680 can just drop on somebody and it will alert the 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,079 government this is a problem child. And then they're just 99 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,720 taken away and she starts to get wrapped up into 100 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Look at the power I have. You know, I think 101 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,519 everything that I thought I knew was a lie. Meanwhile, 102 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:13,639 another kid, a boy, a teenager, teenage boy, he escapes 103 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:18,759 the city and he doesn't know what he's looking for, 104 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,680 but he goes in and he actually finds these rebels, 105 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,600 and he's torn on whether to report them or not. 106 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 And he's just a really screwed up kid, and you 107 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:33,879 find out why in the book. But he's now learning 108 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,560 that these aren't really rebels, and all the way through, 109 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,079 you know, when MICHAELA and I put this together, we 110 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,399 did a lot of research with teens and we told 111 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,600 them stories, not like a history feature does, just told 112 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:55,839 them stories about things of history, because we wanted to 113 00:06:55,879 --> 00:07:00,240 include those stories, the important ones in the book. So 114 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,759 they're discovering this history not taught like a regular history book, 115 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,560 to try to get the reader to go, oh, wow, 116 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,079 I didn't know that, is that true? And look it 117 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,720 up and follow that trail nice And so we did 118 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:18,399 a deal where we would tell a bunch of you know, 119 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,040 twelve to eighteen year old's stories and then we tell 120 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:27,399 them what do you think of this? What discuss And 121 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,120 we found some fascinating views on things, and so we 122 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:37,519 incorporated that to try to tap into their mindset on 123 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,680 how they connect to different stories of history. 124 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: And so many of the elements that you just described 125 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:47,439 we've seen over the past several years, like the snitching 126 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,040 and the things you know, like looking in at your 127 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 looking at your telling on your neighbors, you know, not 128 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,079 suppressing information, things like that. 129 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, changing information. History is being changed now in real 130 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:06,279 time cheap face, cheap fakes. 131 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Times. Right now. 132 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,759 Speaker 3: We are we are we are. And so it takes 133 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,879 the technology that we're now working, you know on, and 134 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,040 it takes the all the dystopian things they all run 135 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,079 exactly the same and it's running exactly like what we're seeing, 136 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,040 and then take the actual US I mean w e 137 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,360 F World Economic Forum, plans for cities and everything else 138 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,919 and takes and plays it out and you know, obviously 139 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,919 it fails, but it's still in slaves and has turned 140 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:47,679 people really into slaves and morons. They don't know what's 141 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,200 real and what's not anymore. 142 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's do you do the audio for the like? 143 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,799 Speaker 2: Do you do it for kindle or I'm not gonna kindle, 144 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,559 but for audible? 145 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,759 Speaker 3: Do you do the reading of it? We have been 146 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:02,000 going back and forth on this. I haven't had time 147 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:04,600 to record an audiobook yet. We've been going back and 148 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,799 forth whether we should have somebody else read it or me, 149 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,960 And I've got about that. 150 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait to read it, but I'd rather listen 151 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:15,879 to it in the car or whatever. 152 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tell you it is. I think 153 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:26,840 it is the perfect way in for parents that don't 154 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,519 know how to teach history, don't want to lecture their kids, 155 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:32,840 and their kids roll their eyes when they're lecture. This 156 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:37,440 is a book they can discover and it's it's really good, 157 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,360 and it's an adventure, it's got danger and you know, 158 00:09:42,759 --> 00:09:45,879 all kinds of stuff in it that is yeah, that 159 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,840 I think you really like. And it's a it's actually 160 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:52,039 a six book series, but we we got to make 161 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:55,960 sure this one works because the stories that we have, 162 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,519 the way this whole thing comes about is so great, 163 00:09:58,759 --> 00:09:59,240 so great. 164 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: I love it. 165 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,519 Speaker 2: It sounds amazing. 166 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: You know. I was telling Miriam of Selling Mock that 167 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,639 I rewatched your twenty ten speech, your keynote speech at 168 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,519 SEAPAC and how you wrote progressivism on the board and 169 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,679 you talked about how progressivism was a cancer and you 170 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,200 called out some people like Soros and Barack Obama, and 171 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:25,120 I'm just you know, and then listening to this the 172 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,240 synopsis of the book you just wrote and everything that 173 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,679 is wrapped up in it, and just I don't know 174 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,840 the fact that we just talked about living in Orwellian 175 00:10:32,919 --> 00:10:37,120 times and I like, progressive. Do you feel like the 176 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:41,840 cancer has spread? Do you think that do you have 177 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,799 Do you think it's inoperable at this point? Like where 178 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:47,639 do you see us now? Because I mean that was listen, 179 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,360 that's when we first started our site. It was right 180 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,200 after that that you gave that speech, and so I 181 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,840 remember thinking, this is what we're fighting for as chicks 182 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,960 on the right. And I look back on that and 183 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,960 I think, gosh, things have changed, and I don't know 184 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,000 if necessarily it's for the better, but they should have 185 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,080 changed and everything. 186 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know you guys well enough to 187 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,320 know that you know that, you know, God exists and 188 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,039 no matter how bad it gets, it will all be 189 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,399 used for his purposes in the end. So wherever we 190 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:22,440 end up, it's going to be He's not surprised by 191 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,080 any of this. And you know, I hope we're not 192 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,840 living in the times you know, foretold, but we could be. Yeah, 193 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:33,159 and we just have. All we have to do is 194 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,279 let me sit. Put it this way. When you started 195 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:41,240 your site, are you a better person and citizen today 196 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:42,240 than you were back then? 197 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:46,519 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I love that question. Yes, Glenn, I think so, 198 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,559 I really do. I've lost, you know, friends and family 199 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:53,639 along the way, but I know myself better and I 200 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,559 have better and stronger and more robust relationships with people. Yes, 201 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,600 I know who I am. 202 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,039 Speaker 3: And you're living You're actually living life, no matter how 203 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,879 tough it is and how many things. I mean, there's 204 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:10,840 a lot of things I wanted to do other than this. 205 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,720 I didn't. I never got into this business to do 206 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:17,799 a serious talk show, especially where I'm the doom and 207 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,279 gloom guy. That is not what I wanted to do 208 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:29,000 or want to do. But I have lived an amazing life, 209 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:34,759 and I'm better spiritually, and I'm better as a citizen. 210 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:39,240 I'm a better dad. I mean, it's just it all 211 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,360 is used in the end for his purposes. 212 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: I love. You know what else tracks is giving your 213 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,120 dog rough greens. 214 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know why you would not want to do 215 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,960 that when they lap it up like it's freaking candy, 216 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:51,480 and it's good for them. 217 00:12:51,759 --> 00:12:54,879 Speaker 1: My dogs love this stuff, you guys, especially the shepherds. 218 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,480 I mean, Coda really likes it. But the shepherds, they 219 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,960 will not eat their food until I put the stuff on, 220 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,159 until I sprinkle the green stuff on it. They wait, 221 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,320 they look at me, like, where is it? What's going on? 222 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,600 It transforms your dog's daily meals. It has live nutrients. 223 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,240 It gives them energy, shine, vitality, like their coach change. 224 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,039 It's great stuff, you guys. Their breath gets better too, 225 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,679 Yes it does. It sues older joints, it sharpens their vision. 226 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:28,600 It adds happiness because I'm happier, happier dogs, happier healthier dogs. 227 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:31,840 It was developed by naturopathic doctor Dennis Black, and you 228 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:35,080 do really see real results like we've noticed it. Like 229 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,559 Mack said, fresher breath, they become playful, more playful, shine 230 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,799 your coats. You do see a big difference. Give it 231 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,080 a couple months and you'll see. So you just put 232 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,639 a little bit of it on top of their meals. 233 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,480 I do it twice a day. I know some people 234 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:50,200 only do it once, but I do it twice a day, 235 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:52,480 and it's just a really great way to help them 236 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,200 live their best life. Yolo with the dogs. Give them 237 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,799 the gift of health for Christmas. Do it. Get a 238 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,120 free jumpstart try bag just cover shipping rut chicks dot 239 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:04,679 com use coach Chicks. 240 00:14:04,879 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, you know, piggybacking off 241 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,919 of that, I was going to ask you if you 242 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,480 felt more cynical or optimistic about the country's future. But 243 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,039 it sounds like instead of either of those, you're just saying, 244 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,159 let go and let God. Yeah you know what I mean, 245 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,320 And that's actually that it is reassuring. 246 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I immediately feel better. 247 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: Well I should have done that earlier, right the uh 248 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,639 the uh. You know, I've gotten to a point to where, 249 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,039 you know, I've always said on the air that all 250 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,240 I am is a reader of the signposts, and I'm 251 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:44,080 just saying, here's the mile marker, here's the time to 252 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,720 the next exit. But I've said, at some point we're 253 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:50,200 we're out of exits and it's just going to go 254 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:54,720 over the cliff and that'll be an interesting ride, and 255 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:00,879 we're we're there to where there are exits. But only 256 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:07,240 with God, only with really disciplined people, people who have studied, 257 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,200 know what they know, know what's true, will anchor themselves 258 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,960 in the Constitution and the Declaration and the Bill of 259 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:19,600 Rights and then just go through hell, but do what 260 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:23,240 they have to do to make sure those things are 261 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:26,600 preserved in one form or another. And you know, my 262 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,679 I have a I have We've had some bouts with 263 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:35,000 suicide in my family from the beginning, and then I've 264 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:40,240 had three of my four children have serious bouts with them. 265 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:47,639 Uh and uh. I took one of my my children 266 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,840 to a psychiatrist who I thought at first was I 267 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:53,559 heard he was the best, and I thought when I 268 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,679 hear when I heard him, I was like, you're insane. 269 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,200 And he said, your son knows what you're afraid of, 270 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:06,000 and he said you got to get past that. He said, 271 00:16:06,039 --> 00:16:07,759 so what are you afraid of? My wife? And I 272 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:10,759 looked at him went, I don't know that he's dead, 273 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,039 and they said he said, okay, so let's play this out. 274 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,639 They commit suicide, what do you do? And we're just well, 275 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,840 we we mourn and uh huh and then what, well, 276 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,120 we probably blame it on each other for a while, 277 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:29,240 you know, because we don't we don't know how to 278 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:31,879 deal with it. But then we get help and then 279 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,200 we get through it, and then we probably I don't know, 280 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:40,000 write a book about our son and suicide and and 281 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,039 uh and then we probably do a tour and we 282 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,840 try to help other people. And he said, so you 283 00:16:46,919 --> 00:16:50,279 make it. We were like, yeah, we of course we 284 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,440 make it, but we don't want that. And he's like, 285 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,000 you need to tell him now, you're not afraid of it. 286 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:58,759 That's his decision. You're not afraid of it. And we 287 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:03,600 were like, oh, wow, no, I don't think so. Yeah. 288 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:08,880 It was terrifying, and so he brought my son in 289 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,039 and we sat down and he said, let's just play 290 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:17,359 this out. You're dead. What happens to you? Well? Nothing, 291 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,200 I'm dead, okay, And then we talked about religious stuff 292 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,920 and then he said, what do you think happens with 293 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,799 your parents? He said, I don't know, and so we 294 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,759 started talking and went through the whole thing and said, 295 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,319 there's nothing we can do. This is your choice. This 296 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,559 will always be your choice. We can tell you we 297 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,240 love you, we can tell you all these things, we 298 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:47,640 can help you in any way, but unless you're willing 299 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,559 to live, there's nothing we can do. And so we're 300 00:17:53,599 --> 00:17:56,519 just not going to live in that fear anymore. Yeah, 301 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:02,079 and when you have problems, we're not going to take 302 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,839 them on as our problems. We will help you, but 303 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,680 then we will we'll end our little time together with 304 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:10,119 It's going to be interesting to see you work that 305 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,200 all out that way. It's not ownership on us, it's 306 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,440 on you. And it changed him, it really, I mean, 307 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,480 it was remarkable. And I'm not suggesting that anybody else 308 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,440 does that because it was terrifying. Yeah, but it worked 309 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,119 with us, and we've decided that that's the best way 310 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,839 to look at everything in life. You know, the country 311 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,720 might be suicidal, might be I can't stop that. I 312 00:18:39,759 --> 00:18:42,640 can do my part, but unless the country wants to 313 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,039 wake up from this insanity, it will commit suicide. And Andy, 314 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,400 it's going to be interesting to see how Americans work 315 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:50,839 this out. 316 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's This is one of the reasons 317 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,400 that I really that I that I love you is 318 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,680 because you're because you're vulnerable, Like you're not screaming. There 319 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,160 are a lot of screaming people out there and doing 320 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,440 what we do, there are a lot of not I mean, 321 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:08,720 and there's a I guess there's. 322 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: A I feel like I'm a screaming well, I. 323 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: Mean, there's this there's a space. You have more of 324 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,960 a like a gentle like a cerebral gentle way about you. 325 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:19,400 And is that do you find that to be difficult, 326 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:22,039 like to be vulnerable and to share personal stuff because 327 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:24,000 we just kind of started in the past couple of 328 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:26,119 years doing more of that. That's because it's hard to 329 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,720 put yourself out there and to share personal stuff. 330 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:33,559 Speaker 3: Because so I have a I have a really interesting 331 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,599 I can't relate and tell you because I didn't start 332 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,079 doing that. I started in radio when I was thirteen, 333 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,400 so and I worked all the time. So my best 334 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,519 friend was this the microphone. Yeah, and I could say 335 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,200 anything into it and it won't reject me. The audience might, 336 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:04,079 but it won't. And U and so I've I, you know, 337 00:20:04,519 --> 00:20:11,880 always talked about personal things. But what happened in nineteen 338 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,279 ninety five, probably was. I was doing Top forty morning radio, 339 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,200 and I was, I just I couldn't play Britney Spears 340 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,680 one more second, and I just, I mean. 341 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:25,759 Speaker 1: I maybe one more time. 342 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:28,039 Speaker 3: I got to the point to where I would say, yeah, yeah, 343 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,880 just one more time. I got to the point to 344 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,319 where this is, this is how I would DJ. The 345 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,039 records say there's another super super classic from What's Her Face? 346 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,960 And all of the songs were that because I just 347 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,160 didn't care, and I didn't care if anybody fired me 348 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,440 and I couldn't do it anymore. But we were talking 349 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,039 about something and on the air, and it was an 350 00:20:54,079 --> 00:20:58,480 event of something. It might have been the Clinton scandal 351 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:02,400 or something, and a caller said, what do you know 352 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:05,440 you're mister goody two shoes? Because I was known at 353 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,400 the time as clean cut, you know, all American blah 354 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,200 blah blah, that was the image that had been created. 355 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,759 But I was a raging alcoholic for most of it 356 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,079 and just not a good guy, just not a good guy. 357 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:25,240 And I said, they said, what do you know you're 358 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:29,680 mister goody two shoes? And I said, you know, let 359 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,799 me tell you something, and the whole room stopped everybody's like, oh, 360 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:34,839 dear God, what is he going to say? 361 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Here we go? 362 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: And I said, you don't know me, nobody knows me. 363 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,400 Let me tell you about me. And I was actually, 364 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,599 in a way, I think, trying to end my radio career. 365 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,799 But the opposite happened. People started coming up to me 366 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:56,839 and saying, I cannot believe you said what you said 367 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,200 about yourself. And then they look around and go, let 368 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,359 me tell you, brother, I've been there. Yeah, you know 369 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,599 what you're talking about. And we were all hiding from 370 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,039 our darkest selves when we're all struggling with the same 371 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,119 basic things. And so if you're if you're willing to take, 372 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:19,720 if you're willing to be completely honest and say, yep, 373 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,440 this is who I am. Like it or not. There's 374 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,559 parts of me I really don't like, but that's who 375 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:35,480 I am. And your audience understands you. They know, generally speaking, 376 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:40,279 when you're telling the truth, you know, because they'll they'll 377 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:43,160 find all these inconsistencies and be like, wait a minute, 378 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,240 wait a minute, wait a minute. And as long as 379 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,599 you've done your homework on yourself and you know who 380 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,279 you are, you guys know this. You know who you are. 381 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,960 You know what you believe, and you're not so strident 382 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,680 that somebody couldn't come, you know, on and say, you know, 383 00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:04,559 I got to challenge you on that. I think you're wrong. 384 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:10,359 If you're willing to listen and and and if they 385 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:14,440 make a good point that you can't diffuse after thinking 386 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,000 and researching and everything else, then you should come back 387 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,759 on the air and go, you know what, I was 388 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:22,319 wrong about that absolutely, and here's my thing. 389 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,079 Speaker 2: And you've done that. 390 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done that a lot. 391 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you've you've you know, you've talked 392 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,160 very very openly about your struggles with alcoholism, drug use. 393 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: And and just illness in general. So how are you 394 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:39,319 like today? 395 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: How are you? 396 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:43,039 Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm probably better than i've been in well, 397 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,079 better than I was even when I saw you guys. 398 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,640 Really really, I'm probably better than i've been in five years. 399 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: I love that. That's great. 400 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: I had a just a turning point. You know, there 401 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,440 are times when you just get you're just like I 402 00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:02,640 just I just want a bag of Oreole cookies. 403 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: Oh, we understand that with women. That's about one. 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Trek twenty five to 441 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:08,799 eighty four. 442 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: One of the things that we loved so much about 443 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,480 coming to see you at the Blaze Studios is the 444 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:19,799 museum and all the artifact of the historical artifacts that 445 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:20,559 you've collected. 446 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: What how did that start? 447 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: And like, what would you say is your most prized 448 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,200 item in the whole way about the museum? 449 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I. 450 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: Don't think I can answer the most prized because it's 451 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:45,000 so fast now. It started in two thousand. Uh, well, 452 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,960 it actually started with my kids. My kids. I hated 453 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,720 history when I was growing up, hated it. Really. 454 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that, because it's all I can know that. 455 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: Gosh, oh, did you like history a little? 456 00:26:58,279 --> 00:26:59,039 Speaker 1: Yeah? I did. 457 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,079 Speaker 3: Memorized the name and the dates and where the battle was. 458 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,279 Speaker 1: Weirdly, like my fourteen year old, Like my fourteen year 459 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:06,680 old daughter, she loves it. That's like her favorite subject. 460 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,519 It's crazy. But yeah, so I'm surprised that you didn't. 461 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:12,799 Speaker 3: You're so Oldyeah, no, I hate it like kids. Yet 462 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,440 it well because I learned to love it, because I learned. 463 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,839 You know, the word history has the word story in it. Yeah, 464 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:27,680 why aren't we focusing on the story of history? And 465 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,559 if you do that, then you know, forget about the dates. 466 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:36,920 It was seventeen ninety one. No, it was seventeen ninety two. Okay, nerd, 467 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,680 you know, nerd, argument stop, I don't I don't need, 468 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,079 I don't care. What was the argument about? Which side one? 469 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,799 What did they do with it? What did the losers 470 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,720 do walking away? You know what happened? Why were they? 471 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:56,359 Why did this come up? That's all A human story, 472 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,599 and when you focus on the human story, it's so 473 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,640 much better. I could tell you. You know, they tried to 474 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240 teach us George Washington chop down the cherry tree, and 475 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,440 he couldn't tell a lie, and he had wooden teeth. 476 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,279 None of those things are true. Let me tell you 477 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:16,920 two stories. First, he didn't have wooden teeth. By the 478 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,200 time he was president, he lost his last tooth. His 479 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:24,720 teeth were rotting out of his face. He had for 480 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:29,920 a while a metal contraption in his mouth that looks 481 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,839 like something that Steve Martin would have been installing in 482 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,079 Little Shop of Horrors. Okay, it was horrific, Okay. And 483 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,079 the reason why his painting, the paintings of him always 484 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,519 kind of mouth, kind of like this, is because he 485 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,359 was trying to hide. He was so embarrassed by his teeth. 486 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,920 And so when he became president, he just he was 487 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:58,720 so embarrassed by himself that he wanted to he wanted 488 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,440 to do something. So he and for the latest thing, 489 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:08,119 which was drilling holes in your gums and then implanting 490 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,359 teeth in there in hopes that they would grow good 491 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,519 God right, no anesthesia, nothing, nothing, And so it takes 492 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:23,880 this guy who wouldn't teeth? What does that take? Anything 493 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,680 about it? That's not even true? Why? Yeah, this takes 494 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,640 a guy who is a giant among men and humbles him. 495 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,039 He's embarrassed by his own looks, and because he believes 496 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:41,839 the president should look a certain way and be distinguished, 497 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,200 he goes through that. Now, that's a much that's a 498 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:50,720 much better story than Wooden Teeth never tells, Yeah, never 499 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:56,359 tells a lie. Let me just let me tell you 500 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640 the story of Gosh, I'm thinking about so many of them. 501 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,799 I tell you a story. I was with the head 502 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:09,200 of the American Museum of the Smithsonian, and I was 503 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:14,680 looking for specifically things about George Washington that were negative. 504 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Because I can find I can tell you that before 505 00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:20,599 Abraham Lincoln, you know, his mom raised him. He was 506 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720 terrified of his father, but he really because his father 507 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,799 was like you will believe in Jesus as he's beating him. 508 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,839 He falls away from the church and he goes dark. 509 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,240 And there's a period of Abraham Lincoln's life where he's 510 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,400 with prostitutes and everything that you've never heard about Abraham Lincoln. Okay, 511 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:43,920 but then he finds himself and he finds God, Okay, 512 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,720 I can find that stuff on anybody. I cannot find 513 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,079 that stuff on George Washington. So I'm going to the 514 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:54,559 Smithsonian to meet with the American, the head of the 515 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:59,759 curator of the American Museum, And I said, I'm desperately 516 00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:05,359 trying to find something on Washington. That's bad because I 517 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,759 believe that you have to understand the story, understand the 518 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:13,200 story of America. You have to understand the Tuskegee experiments, 519 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,440 and you have to understand the true meaning of the 520 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Declaration of Independence. Okay, all men are created equal. You 521 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:25,359 have to understand both sides. If you're surprised by the 522 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,880 bad things all of a sudden, America has no credibility. Okay, 523 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:31,720 because wait a minute, I didn't know about that. What 524 00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,519 else are they hiding? Yeah, so what are you hiding 525 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,559 about George Washington? He said, Oh, I have something, he said, 526 00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:40,799 but I've only I've We've only found one thing. And 527 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,119 I said, what is it? He said, Commers, I'll show you. 528 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480 And so he took me back into the archives and 529 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,720 he pulls out all these drawers and there's just these 530 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,319 little thin drawers and he pull one out and he'd 531 00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:53,240 be like, oh, there's George Washington's you know, baptismal gown, 532 00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,200 and you know, here's this and here's that, and I'm like, okay, 533 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200 and he pulls out a deal and it's a newspaper 534 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720 and he's says, this is the worst thing I can 535 00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,880 find on George Washington. And it's an editorial right before 536 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:15,480 his second election. Okay, somebody writes in that George Washington 537 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:19,200 is a monster. And this person must know because the 538 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:25,359 editorials written by his mother. Okay, his mother was this. Yeah, 539 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,920 his mother was this giant pain in the ass where 540 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,200 she was just like because she was just she was 541 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,839 a nightmare. And she always like, oh, George, you cannot 542 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,240 leave me, you can't go away out. You know, all 543 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,240 these stories of him just acquiescing yes, mother dear, Yes, 544 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,079 mother dear. Oh, so she wants him back at Mount 545 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,599 Vernon and so she writes this editorial and says, you 546 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,559 have no idea. You cannot elect this man again. He's 547 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,920 the most extravagant man you have ever met. And you'd 548 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,640 be horrified if you knew the details, just the details, 549 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,559 this is it. Just the details on how much this 550 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,519 man spends on ice cream every month alone disqualify him. 551 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,079 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, and now we have Nancy foodstuff. 552 00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 553 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: That brilliant, absolutely brilliant, Oh my gosh. Okay, so I 554 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,480 would have to know your favorite interview of also besides us, 555 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:38,440 besides interviewing with us obviously because I did. We were 556 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,279 I know, we were the pinnacle of your career. 557 00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: Besides, I don't have fun very often. It's good. 558 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,839 Speaker 1: Who would you say would be like the I guess 559 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,839 the highlight when it comes to interviewing somebody or somebody 560 00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:54,319 who was on your bucket list, you were like, I 561 00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,279 can't believe I just interviewed this person, because I mean, 562 00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,759 I know you're you, You're Glenn freaking back, you know, 563 00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:02,880 But but like, who would be like a person that 564 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,799 you interviewed that you were like, I cannot believe I 565 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,519 just did that, or or just maybe not maybe not 566 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:10,960 somebody who's famous that you just really enjoyed interviews. I 567 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,440 don't know, Uh can you don't know? 568 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 3: You know? Nieah, I interviewed a guy who was a 569 00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:26,599 hundred and six maybe Oh my god, he remembers, Yeah, 570 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:32,000 he remembered Woodrow Wilson. Wow, he remembered. Gosh, he remembered 571 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,719 and he had perfect recollection. This guy I thought was 572 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,199 going to live to you know, one hundred and ten. 573 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: How did you meet him? And uh, how did you? 574 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,719 How did that happen? 575 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,079 Speaker 3: He was I think he was a fan of the show. 576 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,239 And he called in one time and They're like, he's 577 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,559 you know, he's and I'm like, he's not that old. 578 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,039 Come on and got him on the phone, and then 579 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,159 we brought him in and he was fascinating because he 580 00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,679 could remember, that's amazing where he was, the stock market crash. 581 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,239 He could remember where he was, you know, World War 582 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,199 two beginning and the end. It was amazing. It is amazing. Wow. 583 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,639 The other guy that I have I never interviewed, but 584 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,519 I became friends with. That was the first name that 585 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,559 came to mind, but not an interview is Billy Graham. 586 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:27,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 587 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 3: Billy Graham was just it was such an honor to 588 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,920 meet him, and I was He invited me to his 589 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,239 house for some reason, and I had been praying on 590 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960 something and I had just said to one of the 591 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,199 guys in my office, I think I'm supposed to I 592 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:52,039 think I'm supposed to talk to Billy Graham, And they said, well, 593 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,199 did you call him? Did you reach out to him? 594 00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,079 And I'm like, yeah, Billy's not taking my phone calls 595 00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:03,679 right now, called me. I just checked it out. Yeah yeah, 596 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,719 and uh. And that later that afternoon he his office 597 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,719 called and asked if I no, I swear to you. 598 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,880 Same day, same day, his office reached out and said 599 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,480 that he would like to meet with me and my 600 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:20,719 family that following Sunday. So we had an hour to 601 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,679 go up and we ended up six hours up with him, 602 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,320 and he was the most remarkable man I've ever met. 603 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,320 I remember, you know, he asked me to share my 604 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:39,639 testimony with him, and we were both crying, and he 605 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,559 was talking about how, you know, we're all going to 606 00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:44,960 make mistakes, We're all going to make mistakes. He's like, 607 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,280 every mistake I made, and I have made so many 608 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,320 were because I wasn't listening. He said, every accomplishment does 609 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,480 not belong to me. And he meant it, He really 610 00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:03,320 meant it, and so humble. And he said, but I 611 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,280 know where I'm going, and he said I know who 612 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,880 I serve. And he said, I am not afraid of death. 613 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,719 The whole dying part has me a little worried, but 614 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,079 I'm not afraid of that. 615 00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: What happens after, right, yeah, so is there someone go ahead. 616 00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I'm saying. I was just going to ask 617 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,400 you if there's someone that you aspire to interview that 618 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,599 you haven't had a chance to talk with yet, or 619 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719 have you just checked off your entire bucket list you 620 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,320 want to talk to. 621 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 3: There's so many. I I'm doud he's doing interviews. But 622 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,800 for the longest time I wanted to interview Clint Eastwood. 623 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920 I still would. I'd love to tell about him. 624 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: Please invite us when that happens. 625 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. I just 626 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,920 I don't know why. We've reached out and reached out 627 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,320 and reached out. And and it's funny because he was 628 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,440 at CNN doing an interview when I was at CNN 629 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,679 and one of them, my producers, was in the hallway 630 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,920 when he was walking with a group of producers and 631 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,440 my picture was up on the wall and he stopped 632 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,719 and he went that guy. I like that guy, and 633 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,719 then just started walking away. 634 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: Talk Can we talk? 635 00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: But and the and the the current one is Elon Musk. 636 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,800 I don't know why I can't get an interview with 637 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480 Elon Musk. But we've been in touch with each other 638 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,920 back and forth, but we just never seem. 639 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: To does he not know? Not know? 640 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: He's aware of who I am? And that may be 641 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,880 the problem. 642 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,039 Speaker 2: That may be the problem, Glenn. 643 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: It's always just such a treat. 644 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we're old friends now because 645 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,039 we've been to visit you in person, and I know 646 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,719 we've only talked twice, but it feels very familial, and 647 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,239 it's just. 648 00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: You are to Troy. 649 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for taking the time. 650 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you got are the best. Thank you, 651 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,239 thank you, thank you for all of all the stuff 652 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,880 that you do and all the joy you spread. 653 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,119 Speaker 1: That's so sweet. That's what we're trying to relate. That 654 00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:12,559 is precisely our goal. And it was just a joy 655 00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:13,639 talking to you. Thank you, Glenn. 656 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for a couple of whores, you're nicely true, 657 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,920 a couple of floods, that's true.