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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>October thirty, twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that thing

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<v Speaker 2>we call a calendar, this is the O'Kelly effect. And

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<v Speaker 2>we are well live on a woll Wednesday, Wednesday, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is the middle of a week, and as per usual,

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<v Speaker 2>scheduling is walking with the network and people, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm really happy to have a guest that I

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<v Speaker 2>just asked, oh, I don't know today to come on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. I had other plans in mind this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't even going to do any JFK shows

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<v Speaker 2>because I did that last week. But I think this

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<v Speaker 2>will be an interesting visit with somebody that we have

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<v Speaker 2>had on the show before and was working for TNT

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<v Speaker 2>at one point in the not too distant past. But

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<v Speaker 2>the now defunct TNT radio network, well maybe it's not defunct.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's been rebranded, because I see it rebranded out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't even feel like giving them air. But

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<v Speaker 2>weird thing when you see people transpose their network into

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<v Speaker 2>something else, you know, it reminds me of the early

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands when this happened several times, and places like

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<v Speaker 2>Oracle and Jaez O'Ryan and other online radio networks change hands,

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<v Speaker 2>ownerships split off into little groups. It was a weird

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<v Speaker 2>time back then, and I don't know, are we seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that today? It's a lot easier. And hell, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>need a radio network anymore because you can just what

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast on Twitter ex if you want ex Twitter whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is Elon Musk's platform is I mean, is he

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<v Speaker 2>too busy in Pennsylvania at the moment trying to give

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<v Speaker 2>away a million dollars? Maybe, But we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to a bunch of stuff. And I might even ask

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<v Speaker 2>my guest today what he thinks about the robocall and

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<v Speaker 2>the other weird stuff going on with the presidential selection

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<v Speaker 2>here in the US, because, as I said, being that

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<v Speaker 2>it is hell Night, mischief Knight, the day before Halloween

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<v Speaker 2>in America. Hey, you know what, we're only well less

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<v Speaker 2>than a week now away from that Tuesday that's coming up. Huh,

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<v Speaker 2>November fifth? Is that the date that's supposed I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it's supposed to happen, November fifth, So that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the next coming Tuesday. Strange, But will the story

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<v Speaker 2>end there? I don't think so. Trump v Harris, Harris v. Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is you want to call it, and the

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<v Speaker 2>battle for the soul of America continues, although if you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching the ads you might think it's the battle over

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<v Speaker 2>who gets to play in what sports abortion and say

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<v Speaker 2>it to my face. Yes, I know that was in coherent.

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<v Speaker 2>So is the campaign. So are some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the campaign. And oh, by the way, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's got a garbage can and Trump has a garbage

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<v Speaker 2>truck today if you didn't see that. But do I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get into specific news. No, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a chat with a guy who's got a better

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<v Speaker 2>radio voice than me, but a name that I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time pronouncing because it's what croatian I think

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<v Speaker 2>in Oregon. But anyway, hergo yeah, all right, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I did that correct? Anyway? Yeah? Hey, is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You got it?

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey man, how you doing? And also tell people

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<v Speaker 2>you have a podcast now, because that show that was

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<v Speaker 2>named after you on TNT is no longer. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if archives are available of it anyway, yea, everything

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<v Speaker 2>is still up.

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<v Speaker 3>I would guess even yours is up.

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<v Speaker 1>All the even the people who departed or were forced

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<v Speaker 1>to depart, The archives will remain up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and oh, yes, yeah, mine disappeared, So mine are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that. But I sort of got blacklisted by

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<v Speaker 2>those guys, which is why I have to laugh. They

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<v Speaker 2>closed up shop, But I asked you before we went

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<v Speaker 2>to air, Hey, were you still on board on staff?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you still part of the station when they allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>closed up shop with Mike Ryan out there saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess people didn't really want free speech. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the thrust of the statements he was making, because he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying that his platform was all about free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they lost investors or they lost funding,

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<v Speaker 2>one way or another, he said, and it was time

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<v Speaker 2>to give up the ghost, and so they did on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday apparently. But you weren't there at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>were you?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I actually I checked, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the TND presenters get this wrong. Your archive is

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<v Speaker 1>still up, it's just not easy to find. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod. Mean, I'll actually send you the link.

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<v Speaker 2>Snow caring.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I decided to leave after two full years in

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<v Speaker 1>March mid March. I was just simply burned out and

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<v Speaker 1>so I left. You know, I'm still on good terms

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<v Speaker 1>with the TNT folks, and yeah, I left, and then

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<v Speaker 1>six months later, you know, somewhere what like a month ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they shut down. I guess they lost the funding. And

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<v Speaker 1>just today, you know, it's all news to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I'm not talking to anyone there, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>rebranded the Pulse today and I guess they did a

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<v Speaker 1>stream today and yeah, I don't know, maybe they've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>you investors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something something has happened over there. I'm not claiming

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<v Speaker 2>to know what happened either. I just know that damn,

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<v Speaker 2>you made it two years and I couldn't make it

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks over there. So it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight days, my brother, that's how long I lasted. And

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<v Speaker 2>I only broadcast well let's see, I think six of them. Anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a weekend in there as well, but as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I knew, I hadn't been fired until that Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>and after I finished my broadcast, I was told, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to show up tomorrow. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>what it was. I had a five day week show

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<v Speaker 2>over there. Anyway. Well, let's put that aside and know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not bitter at all, but I did find it

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<v Speaker 2>ironic because he was claiming you know, kind of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sour grapes considering that they you know, people just

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<v Speaker 2>don't want free speech, which I found odd because I

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<v Speaker 2>was shut down for not saying things that they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>said and also not agreeing with the position, which is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much why my show was taken away. So I

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<v Speaker 2>found that funny. I mean, I don't ask you to

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<v Speaker 2>comment on that. You seem to be thriving over there,

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<v Speaker 2>but now you do just your own podcast and where

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<v Speaker 2>can people find your independent whenever you feel like doing

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<v Speaker 2>when you're posting it podcasts by the way, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have a schedule. Some weeks I'll record six podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>a week or you know, one to two. And Geopoliticsnempire

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<v Speaker 1>dot com is the website and then the substack Geopolitics

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<v Speaker 1>and Empire dot subsec dot com and primarily support it

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<v Speaker 1>through you know, paid subscriptions membership on the substack where

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<v Speaker 1>I do weekly group zoom calls with members where we

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<v Speaker 1>shoot the breeze, and weekly commentary and analysis where I

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<v Speaker 1>bring together the best headlines of the week and put

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<v Speaker 1>out my thoughts. And I've been I've been doing the podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>I count from twenty twelve so basically for over a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time it was a hobby, moonlighting, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>while I was working full time just for fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm trying my hand at podcasting full time, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, you know, I've started in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>so just after you. But basically since twenty fourteen, this

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<v Speaker 2>is essentially all I do. I mean, I've done a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of side jobs here and there, but quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting and I independently record, you know, commercials for people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do voiceovers if people are willing to hire me,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. But politics and empty you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I subscribe to your substack, just so you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I know you still exist. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was strange for me to see that

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<v Speaker 2>you were still and I saw your name earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>week and I said to myself, you know, I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to this guy again because I really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>our conversation. And even though you and I might have

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<v Speaker 2>slightly different opinions about what's happening, you know, you're very rational, sensible,

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<v Speaker 2>and again you've got a great radio voice, so I

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<v Speaker 2>love having discussions with again, rational sensible people who are

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<v Speaker 2>willing to pick some things apart with me and also

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<v Speaker 2>put up with my little rants here and there while

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to them. So all those plus is in

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<v Speaker 2>your column there her Vollier. And it's weird because I

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<v Speaker 2>read your name all the time, but mispronounce it in

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<v Speaker 2>my own head. So I again, I did, honestly have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask how to pronounce it right before we went

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<v Speaker 2>to air. And he's been a guest on my show before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just did you want?

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<v Speaker 3>You can do her her nickname nice.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a lot easier. I could just call

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<v Speaker 2>you Herb you really want, That's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. People will call me when it

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<v Speaker 1>was teenager Herve nice, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they were not Hervey though, right Nobody ever called.

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<v Speaker 3>You Hervey I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay cool. I mean, I do not call me Chucky.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that, but uh, you know, Chuck Charles. If

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<v Speaker 2>you call me Charles, I want to know which bill

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<v Speaker 2>collector or government agency you're with. But you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>everybody calls me Chuck. But anyway, does anybody care about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. I want to get into some of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because I know you talk about politics, and you

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<v Speaker 2>also decidedly like to discuss other things. Maybe you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to all of them on TNT, but clearly when

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<v Speaker 2>you got something named politics an empire or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're the name of your substack again, Geopoulo and empire. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I had it in front of me, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>had other things in front of me that I was

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<v Speaker 2>because I was trying to scroll through something and be slick,

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<v Speaker 2>but I messed it up. So yeah, geopolitics and empire.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you're concerned about global issues and things that affect

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<v Speaker 2>people on the international stage, so geopolitics and maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>deep politics in general would be interests of yours. So

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what is kind of like in your crosshairs

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment. What is it that is catching your

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<v Speaker 2>attention or are you just as swept up in the

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<v Speaker 2>American selection process as it seems like most of our

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<v Speaker 2>dominant corporate media is, and well, let's be honest, the

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly independent media we have even all swept up in

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<v Speaker 2>Harris v. Trump or Trump v. Harris and other weird

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<v Speaker 2>things going on, which, by the way, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of audio clips I want to play for you

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<v Speaker 2>and ask your opinion about But so outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>election or are you just focused on the selection? Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I should use the proper term selection because nobody is elected,

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not. Stop the steal. They can't steal

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<v Speaker 2>from you what you don't own anyway, her, What is

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<v Speaker 2>actually on your mind in geopolitics and empire currently?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, regarding the election, I've sort of I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>paying much attention to it. I've sort of given up

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<v Speaker 1>on voting as a US citizen or any citizen for

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<v Speaker 1>that matter. And I find us between between a rock

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<v Speaker 1>and a hard place basically, And I get my focus

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<v Speaker 1>is in general, are globalism or our trend toward a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much all the other stuff that's going on, bricks,

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<v Speaker 1>world War three, talk, the elections, all of that has

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<v Speaker 1>And with these elections, for example, I feel they want

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<v Speaker 1>in technocracy, scientific dictatorship. And it's almost as if they're

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<v Speaker 3>Shameful to the rest of the world, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That then they can say, look, this doesn't work, we

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<v Speaker 1>of Chinese model or that Singaporean model. And I'm referencing

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<v Speaker 1>recently Graham Allison. He's this American mainstream intellectual who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure is falling apart. Yeah, yadah, everything's collapsing. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Singapore. It's function well, it's a he actually

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<v Speaker 1>or it's an authoritarian, technocratic sort of benevolent dictatorship. But

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<v Speaker 1>the trains run on time, all the public water works,

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<v Speaker 3>And so you can kind of see what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got in the background, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Musk, you've got a lot of the technocrats standing

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<v Speaker 1>behind Trump in the background, right. JD. Vans is backed

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<v Speaker 1>by Peter Thiel. Elon Musk is there. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in government efficiency, eliminate a whold swath of government,

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<v Speaker 1>which on its face is a good thing. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be against that. But what's the real goal there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in technocracy, because the technocracy's goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>have a government run by algacracy. Algocracy means rule government,

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<v Speaker 1>rule by algorithm, basically, and so if they decrease the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the government, they're going to replace said basically

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<v Speaker 1>with this technocratic big attack. And that's sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>just That's why I'm not paying much attention.

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<v Speaker 3>As you mentioned the garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the images of the Trump and the garbage

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<v Speaker 1>truck might be calling Trump voters garbage, and for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, definitely, it's background noise. But you got to

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<v Speaker 2>admit that the implementation of any technocracy is going to

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<v Speaker 2>require the cooperation of whoever steps in there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to my mind, and I get criticized for this often,

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<v Speaker 2>to my mind, there is little difference one side to

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<v Speaker 2>the other outside of lip service. I mean, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they have their talking points, they have their

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<v Speaker 2>points of attack, which are influenced by sentimentality, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>all true. And indeed they will change some things depending

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<v Speaker 2>on who wins. But overall, the implementation of something like

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about is coming no matter who occupies

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<v Speaker 2>the White House, no matter who takes the big payday

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<v Speaker 2>in the Congress or the Senate. You know, we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at no matter what, we're going in a certain direction.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the technocracy is one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>that's universal. They may wish to implement it different ways,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, how do you

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the big question even Okay, what was it

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<v Speaker 2>more than a decade ago, probably around the time you

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<v Speaker 2>and I were kicking around the idea of starting podcasts, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It was very, very popular the Zeitgeist movies, if you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them, the Moving Forward movie, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>a Jacques Frescoes, you know, saying about creating these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like cities that would be self sufficient, that would

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<v Speaker 2>create a circumstance where indeed nobody needs to worry about food, shelter, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it would all be provided by a cooperative system

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<v Speaker 2>that actually didn't require a bunch of labor, that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>require a bunch of you know, the jobs and the

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<v Speaker 2>trading of paper money and all that stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember looking at those things and thinking, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be a clean and universally sort of benign

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<v Speaker 2>idea which could be quite benevolent. The concept of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the star Trek concept almost of going forward and allowing

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<v Speaker 2>people to really devote their energies towards self improvement as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to survival on a constant basis didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 2>a bad idea. But it removes from the equation personal freedoms,

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to make your own decisions. There's no need

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<v Speaker 2>to own property in that circumstance. So you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>people immediately screamed communism, etc. There is even a movement

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<v Speaker 2>of sorts which I think is still going on, the

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<v Speaker 2>Meanness Project and a few other things. It still exists,

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't have the i don't know, the popular

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<v Speaker 2>attention online that it once did, where people are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about maybe building these things in an experimental way. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens if you create a city that sustains itself,

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<v Speaker 2>where people could live without having to earn anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>were encouraged forwards self improvement and further innovation and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and they devoted themselves mainly to self improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even with this idea that, look, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn a musical instrument, you go to a main

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<v Speaker 2>hub where either an instrument could be just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>given to you for your use, or it could be

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<v Speaker 2>printed by a three D printer. Right, you add more people,

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<v Speaker 2>you can actually print more housing units with a giant

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<v Speaker 2>three D printer, et cetera, et cetera. Wild ideas. But

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember the Jacques Fresco concept?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember zech Geist and reading a bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the Penis project.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, but nowadays you have and that

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<v Speaker 2>is a clearly a form of technocracy where the technology

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<v Speaker 2>is the primary driver and organized organizing principle in a society.

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<v Speaker 2>But we live in a very strange, bastardized thing now, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I have literally seen a couple of these

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<v Speaker 2>intellectuals even call for a social credit system. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that might be a good thing, Like they have in

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<v Speaker 2>China because that's working out real well, you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You actually see people out there with money,

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<v Speaker 2>with power, with the ability to reach large amounts of

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<v Speaker 2>audience on platforms of all sorts, uh, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>the usual suspects. Stating that, you know, if we sort

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<v Speaker 2>of turn things over to the AI, if we turn

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<v Speaker 2>things over to what can be automated, if we turn

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<v Speaker 2>things over to the technology, well eventually we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>the singularity. So you know, we'll just integrate ourselves into

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<v Speaker 2>the machines and then you get into transhumanism and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>all be okay. We just have to keep moving in

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<v Speaker 2>that direction and go to Mars and trust Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, am I rambling and babbling a little

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<v Speaker 2>too much here?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. And I would just say, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I tend to obsess over these few themes,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think they are the most importance and they

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<v Speaker 1>are being These projects are being implemented in every single

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<v Speaker 1>country they are. It varies the degree to which they

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<v Speaker 1>are being implemented because you know, it depends on the

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<v Speaker 1>development of the country, but they are all there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can you know, people will think, as you mentioned China,

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<v Speaker 1>the EU is basically this fascist, sutalitarian dictatorship. If you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, and I can say that, I'm a US citizen,

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<v Speaker 1>so I supposedly they say, I have the right to

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<v Speaker 1>say that because freedom and democracy and liberty and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>except when you vote the wrong way like in Georgia, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like that, so you didn't vote right. But

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico here, for example, people will won't. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico won't be the first country to come to mind

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<v Speaker 1>when they think about tecnocressy and all this stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>just a month ago in mainstream like, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't go off of random bit shoot

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<v Speaker 1>videos or forums. We're so far down this path that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's in the mainstream papers. So a Mexican mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>paper a month ago said, look, Mexico City, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty five million plus people, they're going to divide it.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually said that, it's they're going to make it

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<v Speaker 1>at utopia. They literally said that, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>their twitters make videos saying Hey, we're going to make

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<v Speaker 1>so they're attempting now to begin the deployment of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess it's going to be you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how fast they'll be able to implement it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's always you know, push and pull to to

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<v Speaker 1>two steps for two steps forward, one step back. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how it goes. But it's it's in every country.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the odd thing is that some things have

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<v Speaker 2>been covertly introduced, right you know, we're we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>need to track everything. Well, it turns out we're already

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<v Speaker 2>tracking it. You know, things like you know, the delivery

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<v Speaker 2>systems for certain things. Right when they needed to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to deliver that alleged vaccine a little ways back, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>instantly they figured out how to do that and refrigerate

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<v Speaker 2>it and everything because of all the pre existing systems,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And that was the other thing. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things are based on pre existing systems that you

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<v Speaker 2>thought you knew about. Maybe we're rumored might have been

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<v Speaker 2>part of conspiracy theory at one point, but turn out

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<v Speaker 2>to be real, you know, much like the back door

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<v Speaker 2>access that the government has to every telecommunication and existence

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. And they've had that since the nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, long before the smartphone was introduced to the public,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. It's a very odd landscape, though, and it

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<v Speaker 2>dare say that no one who does not work in

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<v Speaker 2>the technic industry directly has a real, complete grasp, a

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<v Speaker 2>complete three hundred and sixty degree view of all the

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<v Speaker 2>technocratic elements that are in play in our society at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. I mean, you know, just the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance cameras and you know, and the ability to look

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, biological you know, fingerprints basically, and to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to utilize things to mark somebody, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>need a fingerprint anymore. You know, you can literally get

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<v Speaker 2>you like, with no problem tracking. You don't need a chip, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, that's the next step. You know. I argue with

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<v Speaker 1>some Christians like, you don't even need an implant, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is the reference in book or revelations to

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<v Speaker 1>forehead and right hand, and exactly what are they now

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<v Speaker 1>rolling out palm payments or scans. There's your right hand

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<v Speaker 1>or facial recognitions, so there's just eat your face or

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<v Speaker 1>like they can't go to the bank to withdraw money,

418
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<v Speaker 1>they can't take anything from the ATM.

419
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<v Speaker 3>Completely frozen.

420
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Visa and MasterCard are working with the Kuwaiti

421
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 1>government to do this.

422
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this just destroys human rights.

423
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<v Speaker 1>Right And the Kuwaiti minister comes back and I guess

424
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 1>he'd been in Europe or Italy or whatever, and he

425
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 1>came back, has a lot changed and he said, I'm

426
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<v Speaker 1>not giving you my biometrics unless you you know, sign

427
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a note saying you're not going to use these biometrics

428
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 1>to force me at some feature point to be injected

429
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>with some mysterious elis or liquid and they said no,

430
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and they sent him back to Europe, which is unconstitutional

431
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 1>because most virtually every country, if you're a citizen of

432
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that country, they cannot you deny you entry into your

433
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>own country. But that's the face of the technocracy. It's

434
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 1>it's doesn't care about logic or law. It's it's brute

435
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>technological force. And you know this, this minister, he followed

436
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 1>me back. He's got like hundreds of thousands of followers. Yeah,

437
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.519
<v Speaker 1>he saw me sharing his story. And you know, I

438
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>interviewed Edwin Black in twenty twenty. He's that historian who

439
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:27.799
<v Speaker 1>wrote on IBM and the Nazis, and he's he calls

440
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 1>this system the algorithm ghetto, where you know, we're all

441
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be siloed off and into these they're going

442
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:39.319
<v Speaker 1>to be both literal and and you know, algorithm ghetto.

443
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 3>It's it's little.

444
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>You're literally going to be restrained to a physical location

445
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>because if you go beyond that location, you know, they're

446
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>going to take away our cars. Uh, and then your

447
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>can't your payment system won't work if you go too

448
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.200
<v Speaker 1>far beyond, you know, using joelocation technologies, you just won't

449
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to use money and so basically that's their goal.

450
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<v Speaker 3>So the question is to what extent can they really

451
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<v Speaker 3>roll this out?

452
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

453
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, Edwin Black, he's the guy who wrote Nazi Nexus.

454
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, that that book, right, Okay, yeah, hey, look

455
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's an amazing get And Edwin Black that's

456
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>an interesting name too, because he you know, there's a

457
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe more than one guy named Edwin Black, uh that

458
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that wrote some interesting historical stuff. But the one you're

459
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>talking about wrote that book I just referenced, right.

460
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you wrote about the eugenics as well, and how

461
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:35.519
<v Speaker 1>it was the Anglo American elites who helped you know,

462
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the eugenics was first in America and Britain before it

463
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>was in Germany. And they, you know they, oh, I know,

464
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<v Speaker 1>I believe me.

465
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I've been already, h I. I. I got scolded very

466
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.039
<v Speaker 2>very badly for stating that. You know, basically, when the

467
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.599
<v Speaker 2>US did Operation paper Clip and uh and also we

468
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>did m K Naomi and all that, when that stuff

469
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 2>was being done, it was really just our our getting

470
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>turn on our investment, like it wasn't you know when

471
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Bush was a charge and I do mean Prescott, when

472
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>he was charged with the Trading with the Enemies Act

473
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and all that, which, by the way, was only one

474
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>count against him, But many other people at City Bank

475
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>got charges against him too, He's just the most prominent name. Anyway,

476
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>when that happened. This wasn't them seizing upon assets which

477
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:25.559
<v Speaker 2>were generated elsewhere. This was a return on an investment.

478
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Because it is really in the US where the eugenics

479
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 2>programs and various ideas that people automatically link to the

480
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>dogmatic reality of the Nazi eugenics programs. They believe that

481
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.640
<v Speaker 2>was all begun over there simply because it was the

482
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>fever dream about all Hitler. But the truth is all

483
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>of those ideas and ideals were transposed from America before

484
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>they were landed over there, before you know, when Hitler

485
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 2>was still getting you know, poison gas in this space

486
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 2>in World War One, we were doing this here. And

487
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean we asn't anybody that I know had

488
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 2>anything to do with it. I mean the United States

489
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.079
<v Speaker 2>was already working on this stuff, was already creating these

490
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>concepts and refining them, and they were sent to Germany

491
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>from here. So anything where we got assets back, intelligence

492
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>people back, et cetera, et cetera. Because some people say, oh,

493
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>then the Nazis infiltrated our government did this and that

494
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, those people just came back after we

495
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>had made an investment, an overseas investment was returned upon.

496
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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is.

497
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

498
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people have gotten angry with me

499
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>for it because like, how dare you say that about America?

500
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>But you know, let's get an honest man. I mean,

501
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>it is what it is. And uh, you know, and

502
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>some people go, oh, you're one of those democratic you know,

503
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>socialist liberals because you bring up bush and is trading

504
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 2>with the enemies actor. But it's part of the historical record, man.

505
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just is anyway. But I think that

506
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 2>people fail to understand this, and they also fail to

507
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 2>understand like they think things are coming. Like I love

508
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>that that you point out that, look, you know, this

509
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>has already happened. Other things have already happened too. Like

510
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>every once in a while there's a big swell about

511
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 2>we're going to a cashless society. We're already there. You see,

512
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the majority of what it is we trade as allegedly,

513
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, money is digital representations already. You know, the

514
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>complaints about oh CBDC is coming and everything else. It's

515
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 2>already basically here. All they need to do is codify

516
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 2>it a little more and you know, you'll complete the process.

517
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 2>All they got to do is purge that last little bit.

518
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>The cash that's circulating is insignificant compared to how much

519
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>digital currency has been created, how much imaginary currency has

520
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.599
<v Speaker 2>been created and is literally propping up the quote economy

521
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 2>end quote. Okay, so this idea that we're going to

522
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>be in a cashless society, show me where cash is

523
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 2>king anymore outside of if you've got to make illegal transactions,

524
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>and quite honestly, you can pay power cash app hookers

525
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and drugs now anyway. So you know, just saying money

526
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 2>never has to touch your hands, I mean, I know,

527
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I bring up drugs and prostitution because those are the

528
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 2>easiest things to point out where generally it used to

529
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>be thought you had to have cash for it. And oh,

530
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>by the way, people said that that was what the

531
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.119
<v Speaker 2>purpose of bitcoin was. I don't know what to think

532
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>of bitcoin. I got to be honest with you, because

533
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's like, you know, I see double edged

534
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 2>swords everywhere, but I mean, how many edges does the

535
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 2>sword have when it comes to bitcoin, It's insane what's

536
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>gone on there. And I, you know, I'd love to

537
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>kick myself a few times because I was offered those

538
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>things at eighty dollars a coin at one point. But

539
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, would I have held on to them all

540
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 2>this time and be rich? I doubt it, you know,

541
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>because I can barely hang onto a silver coin for

542
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>more than a month. But but here we are, Okay.

543
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 2>The technocracy is already everywhere, and it's just a matter

544
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 2>of how soon will it be before anything that is

545
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 2>analog is gone? And once it is all gone, here's

546
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>the problem I have with it. Really, I'm not afraid

547
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of technology, or I'm not afraid that we're making trades digitally,

548
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera, not at all. My problem is

549
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 2>that easily, not just you know, hackers. Be afraid of

550
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the hackers. They could take everything away, you know, give

551
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>us the Fight Club ending, you know, for all of

552
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>our bank accounts one day, get rid of all the credit,

553
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>wipe the slate clean. You've seen the movie Fight Club.

554
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to bet so, you know, at the end

555
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>of the movie, not the book. The book's different, but

556
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the movie when they blow up

557
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 2>all the you know, all the credit agencies and they

558
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>wipe the credit cards away and all that. Well, you know,

559
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>that can be done to everything, and selectively. It's just

560
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>like the digital book burning, which is what I call it,

561
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>which is taking place transfer everything away from the physical copies.

562
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>So this way they're all subject to manipulation or deletion.

563
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>And then what can you do if everybody needs to access,

564
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, this great book through their Kindle, Well you

565
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>remove it from Kindle's library and it's gone and that's that.

566
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Nobody has it anymore.

567
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Speaker 4>You know.

568
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're doing it to be green, and we're doing

569
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>it to avoid destroying trees, and we're doing and at

570
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.519
<v Speaker 2>the same time, all they've done is taken it, edited

571
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>it already altered its meaning, buried it somewhere, and then

572
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>if it becomes too much of a nuisance, disappear it.

573
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>And all of that is done without any sort of difficulty.

574
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to track down books, you don't have

575
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to you know, play any of those games, and you

576
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>can do it with the flip of a switch. That's

577
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the real trouble here is that once these things are

578
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 2>all so easily subject to control and easily eliminated or manipulated.

579
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Game over, because you'll never even be able to tell

580
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 2>what the original was any longer, unless by some miracle

581
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>you retain a couple of those scary things called physical books,

582
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, which I often keep insist on and et cetera, etc.

583
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>But truth is, no matter how many people like me

584
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>that are out there, it doesn't matter because the ebooks

585
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 2>are prominent. There are people that aren't even bothering to

586
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>publish physical books any longer because nobody buys them, et cetera,

587
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. So you know, what are your thoughts on

588
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 2>these things that I just spewed out. Does any of

589
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.119
<v Speaker 2>it make sense? Or do you think I'm like just

590
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.759
<v Speaker 2>out of my mind and being too worried about the

591
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>coming social credit system from China that people are going

592
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to one day say is a great idea again? Or

593
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you think we should look to Black Mirror and really

594
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>get worried about those robodogs and everything else, because that's

595
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 2>the real scary part, the upcoming robo army and the transhumanism.

596
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you think is the key thing

597
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that's that's most terrifying or most troublesome, I should say,

598
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>because I'm not going to go with fear in any direction.

599
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>What is the most troublesome thing about this? And do

600
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>you think everything that I just babbled about is madness

601
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>or does it make sense to you?

602
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 4>No?

603
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean it makes sense. I could see them doing

604
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 1>the black mirror metal head you know Skynet stuff if

605
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you track the advances now drone technology? Was it annual

606
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>one of those like Palantiner like companies, they just deployed

607
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 1>u it ghosts.

608
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 3>It's called ghost X, I think.

609
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And then the other one bolts, which are these long

610
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>range drones with huge payloads.

611
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 3>They're super quiet.

612
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>It's literally black mirror and so and then they can

613
00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 1>put them together into autonomous drones forms and neutralize anyone

614
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 1>they like. So I see that coming as well. And

615
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 1>you know one more story. Here in Mexico, we have

616
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>what's known as the CORUP, which is like your unique

617
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>each each person in Mexico, citizen and even foreigners, you

618
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>need it's a unique public registry number. And to have

619
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 1>a driver's license, to do banking, to open a business,

620
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to have one foreigner or citizen.

621
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 3>And they said next they just announced next year.

622
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>In Mexico, they're gonna want it's gonna be obligatory to.

623
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 3>Give up your biometrics.

624
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Two get you know, your your to have your unique identifier.

625
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>So they're going to integrate the biometrics into the universal

626
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<v Speaker 2>ID because we have universal ID in the United States.

627
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<v Speaker 1>Actually basically yeah, is like your national ID or social

628
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 1>scurity or whatever. And again this is happening every country.

629
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<v Speaker 1>And you know, one of the other problems beyond what

630
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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned in your rant was in Mexico, for example,

631
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure other countries that could be similar.

632
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 3>We've you know, you.

633
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Can't tell the difference where the government begins and where

634
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the organized crime or narco cartels end. They're basically one

635
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.159
<v Speaker 1>and the same. They're symbiotic. I've talked to Mexican policemen

636
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>who say, you know, organized crime is in every level

637
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>of the police, the military, the government, banking, you name it.

638
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 1>And so if the biometrics are given to the government,

639
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 1>the narco Mexican government, you can have bad guys now

640
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that have full access to all of your data and

641
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>they can do what they want with it, full control.

642
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 1>And as you mentioned earlier, again, I just spotify, I

643
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>just got of notice from Spotify saying my content was

644
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 1>dangerous one episode. And if anyone doesn't like what you're doing,

645
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 1>they just press a button and you can't get on

646
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 1>a plane, you can't drive a car, you can't buy food,

647
00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, total sci fi. This hope youah right?

648
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's the amazing thing is that once you integrate everything,

649
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you have the ability to literally shut down everything. And oh,

650
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 2>by the way, what if something or someone because you know,

651
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I just assuming they're humans still in the equation. Well,

652
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the humans could make mistakes, but how about a machine

653
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that makes a mistake. You know, those things malfunction from

654
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 2>time to time too, So how about that, you know,

655
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the imperfect machine maybe decides to deperson someone who doesn't

656
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>deserve it. Then what do you do? How do you

657
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>fight the machine? You know you can't.

658
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like those films. One of my favorites

659
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is the movie Brazil from nineteen eighty five, which you're

660
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Robert de Niro as a minor role in, and it

661
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>depicts that sort of world where you could be just

662
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>even for those people that we know to say I've

663
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to hide, they can surveil me. Well, you

664
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>know how many times will it happen where there's an

665
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>error in the system, And hey, you had nothing to

666
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 1>look at the old regimes of the twentieth century, you know,

667
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union, whatever, there were plenty of.

668
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 3>People who had nothing to hide.

669
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 1>They were they followed the rules, and somehow.

670
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>They ended up in the gulag.

671
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>You know.

672
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's that, and there's also this other thing where,

673
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, something that was acceptable a few years ago

674
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 2>may no longer be acceptable today. And how about if

675
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the rules change and you are now stuck in a

676
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>position where you've already crossed the line, but you did

677
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 2>it before. Now all that's information is stored. Literally, let's

678
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>just say the computer decides we need to play catch

679
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>up here. Even though that wasn't illegal two years ago

680
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 2>when you did it, it is now we're charging you,

681
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 2>we're taking away your privileges because of it, et cetera,

682
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And those things can range anywhere from you know,

683
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the back and forth regarding cannabis here in this country,

684
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, to various other things where the laws might change,

685
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 2>the rules might change, your punishment might come in and

686
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.519
<v Speaker 2>out kind of arbitrarily because you violated a rule and

687
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 2>you didn't even know you were violating. See, that's what

688
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>kills me, those people with the whole you know, I've

689
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>got nothing to hide that I mean, And that's not new.

690
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 2>That's something I heard many, many years ago when I

691
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>brought up government surveillance and the Patriot Act and stuff

692
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 2>like that in regards to, you know, having us all

693
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>be monitored. You know, before Snowden came out, and people said, well,

694
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 2>what do you care if they monitor you? You're not

695
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>doing anything wrong. It's okay, No, it's really not. You know,

696
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess there are some people that think the only

697
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>people that want privacy have to be criminals. And you know, weirdly,

698
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.119
<v Speaker 2>I was going to get into this concept of where

699
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>does organized crime end and where does the government begin

700
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico, because unfortunately, that is the primary image that

701
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Americans have of Mexico, that it is

702
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 2>nothing but a comple deletely failed narco state that is

703
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>doing what emptying its jails, insane asylums, and other bad

704
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>people into wear are border crossing and just dumping the

705
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 2>most horrible of people in Mexico onto US in the

706
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 2>United States. Now, that's more of a sentiment than something

707
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 2>that can be backed up by you know, statistics or

708
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 2>reality even here, But nonetheless, that is the impression a

709
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people have, and thusly they believe that a

710
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 2>majority of the population in Mexico is either desperately engaged

711
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>in dealing with those people or are guess what, the

712
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>people that are insane, are dangerous, are connected to the cartels,

713
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and not much else outside of that, and some people

714
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>that want to take their jobs, you know, crossing the

715
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 2>border in a constant, steady flow invading the United States.

716
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm not saying that it's not happening

717
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 2>at all, but I am saying it's a lot more

718
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>hyperbole than it is reality. But a lot of people

719
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>would say that, and they would say it for a

720
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 2>different reason that they don't know where organized crime ends

721
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>and the government begins in Mexico. I mean, if you

722
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 2>just take a look at the amount of politicians that

723
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 2>have been assassinated in Mexico in the past couple of years,

724
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's kind of brutally obvious that organized crime

725
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>clearly has a heavy, heavy handed influence all across the country. So,

726
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, what are we dealing with at our southern border?

727
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>To begin with? What is your thoughts on that, because

728
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 2>that is a major issue in this presidential selection, which

729
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I am going to get to you on in a minute.

730
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think Mexican channels are being emptied. You know,

731
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe Venezuelan. It's you know, I call it a paradox

732
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 1>where if you come to Mexico, by and large, you'll

733
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 1>be fine. You know, I'm from Chicago, and it's like,

734
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you don't go to the South

735
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>side of Chicago, writer or certain parts of Chicago. And

736
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, the funniest thing, I grew up on the

737
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 1>North side of Chicago, and the only time I've ever

738
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>stared down the barrel of a gun was on the

739
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 1>North side of Chicago.

740
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I was a manager of the supermarket.

741
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I got held up with three guys, but a gun

742
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 1>in my face and all that. But in Mexico, like,

743
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>by and large, if you come and mind your own

744
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>business and don't act like an obnoxious America, obnoxious American,

745
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you should you should be fine.

746
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I've been here over a decade.

747
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Yet at the same time, all around you, the stories

748
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that I hear, both in the papers and from people

749
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that I know, it's crazy.

750
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's people that I know. For example, you

751
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 3>read the stories.

752
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>A mayor in Mexico a few weeks ago had his

753
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>head chopped off, literally his secretary shot three days before that.

754
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>In the state where I am, a week ago they

755
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>found five more decapitated heads and not capolical. Four taxi

756
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>drivers were just taken out. A priest in Chapas was assassinated.

757
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Two public officials were just taken out this week. You know,

758
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you can go on and on, and then you know,

759
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 1>fifty semi trucks on a daily basis in Mexico, you know,

760
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>semi trucks from America. You know that they bring together

761
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>all the goods fifty a day, fifty are hijacked. There's

762
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, they had to send in six hundred National

763
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Guard troops to lime growers to protect the lime growers

764
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 1>because cartels were extorting them. They were demanding, you know,

765
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>pay us whatever, ten twenty thirty, I don't know how

766
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 1>much percent, or we're going to kill you. And it's

767
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>at some levels, it's just in some ways it becomes

768
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>untenable because how do you have even a functioning economy

769
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're you know, you're paying tax to the government,

770
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and then the cartel.

771
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Comes to demand equivalent taxes.

772
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.039
<v Speaker 1>It's it's like, well, did you got to shut your business

773
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't make sense to work anymore? And so

774
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time you can come and live normally.

775
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is the thing I still don't understand.

776
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's kind of like the stuff is happening

777
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 1>around you. But if you come here, if you go

778
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>for vacation, largely you'll be left alone because it you know,

779
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>they do fight amongst themselves or you know, they'll looks

780
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 1>for certain businesses. And then the border issue, and there's

781
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>also many Mexicans that are coming back from America to Mexico,

782
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, so this whole idea of everyone's flaying to us, No,

783
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>there's actually an increasing number of Mexicans who were born

784
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>in the US returning to Mexico or Mexicans who were

785
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in the US coming back. But this migration issue, I

786
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 1>find this more again a globalist project. It's the replacement migration,

787
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's I think more of it is beyond Mexico.

788
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>It's Latin Americans and the rest of the world. Because

789
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you're hearing stories about people, you know, tens of thousands

790
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>of people from Turkey have come in through the southern border, Chinese, Russians, Africans, Swatha,

791
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I've met, you know, people from Al Salvador or in

792
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the US. One of my Uber drivers in the US

793
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 1>last year was someone from Al Salvador who was illegally

794
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>in the US and the person told me they used

795
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the coyotes. They're like, yeah, the coyote, I came into

796
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the US. I'm driving Uber. If they go back to

797
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 1>visit family, they'll illegally hop back and forth, you know.

798
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>And so it's not just Mexicans. And I think the

799
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.199
<v Speaker 1>goal again is to bring down America. See.

800
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing is that, you know, when you

801
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 2>hear about people pouring into Germany, it's okay, they're taking

802
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:27.159
<v Speaker 2>down Germany by giving them a culture shock from you know, migrants,

803
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 2>and they're taken down the United States by giving them

804
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a culture shock from migrants. What's weird though, still, is that,

805
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 2>to my understanding, the majority of illegals still come in

806
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 2>through other ports of injury outside of that southern border,

807
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and nobody talks about it. I mean not at all.

808
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>The over state visas, the student visas, the people who

809
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 2>come here on alleged vacations and just don't leave. There

810
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 2>are tens of thousands of them constantly, and nobody discusses it.

811
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>It's the weirdest thing. I mean, how many people are

812
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>coming in through Canada? Ask anybody. Nobody knows, all right.

813
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, you know, is that border better controlled? If

814
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>it is, why not adapted to the south. No, it

815
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:11.119
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work, and it's very very strange. And it's still

816
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 2>based on quite honestly, uh, the the the fear of

817
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 2>the other. You know, it's still that in my mind,

818
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 2>it's still based on you know, sorry to throw this

819
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>term around, because again I'm not a liberal, so I

820
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>don't like to throw this term around, but it is

821
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>based on racism. It is based on a fear, and

822
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. You know, the fear porn is

823
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 2>the best selling product out there, you know, anyway, But

824
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it has gotten strange because that is one of.

825
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 1>The primaries a story where you know, I think mass migration,

826
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>illegal migration is bad for Europe.

827
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, no country should tolerate it.

828
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm as someone who's lived in many countries and been

829
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a foreign guest, I'm pro legal migration.

830
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 3>We should make it easier for people to legally come

831
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:00.199
<v Speaker 3>out go.

832
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<v Speaker 1>I just learned of a story of someone I know,

833
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>an older Mexican who you know, many many decades ago.

834
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 1>They were as a young man, this person was in

835
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the US. They had the chance to go study, you know,

836
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in California at university, and they had they had an

837
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>experience that just made them disgusted where someone that they knew,

838
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.519
<v Speaker 1>another Mexican, the classmates, you know, troublemaker.

839
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 3>But this person.

840
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Ended up dead, you know, was involved with some drugs

841
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and the cops killed them. And and and so this

842
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.280
<v Speaker 1>person that I know overheard the story that the cop

843
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 1>when they found the dead Mexican, they're like, oh, unless

844
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you know Mexican.

845
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And just hearing that this this.

846
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Mexican said, I'm done with this country and left. You know,

847
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 1>imagine how many people would kill to have the opportunity

848
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a young person legally stay in US and

849
00:47:58.519 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 1>create a life.

850
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, now I'm going back to Mexico.

851
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>This is country not for me, where you know, where

852
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 1>the police are saying one one less Mexican, you know.

853
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>And so there is this racism. I would say it's

854
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.800
<v Speaker 1>it's depends on the class of person. Also in the

855
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.199
<v Speaker 1>in the US, but you know, there's plenty of I

856
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>grew up not really knowing so much or even thinking

857
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>about race, and so I wouldn't want to generalize it

858
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>is there, but I would just hope most Americans aren't

859
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't done with that, you know, well a.

860
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Lot of them say they're not, But you take note

861
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.199
<v Speaker 2>of who it is they're worried about and why, and

862
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the stories they're willing to believe without any sort of proof.

863
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, quite often the repetition sometimes like that whole

864
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 2>thing with the Haitians, you know, allegedly eating cats and stuff.

865
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, in Springfield, that story spread like wildfire with

866
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.840
<v Speaker 2>no actual proof, and then when people did present what

867
00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 2>they called proof, it was so bad that it was

868
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>instantly easily debunkable. You know, this is a picture from Springfield. Well,

869
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>that's funny because all the license plates in that parking

870
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.639
<v Speaker 2>lot are from the foreign country. They're not US based part.

871
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's not the license plates you would see

872
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>in Ohio. What are you doing? You know, it was

873
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest stuff I saw. And so again, the willingness

874
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to instantly embrace some of these things I think is

875
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 2>based on it, and it is often a little quieter

876
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 2>than it used to be when it comes right down

877
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 2>to it, you know, not every everybody knows. Don't you know,

878
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 2>call racial names out and don't instantly identify your biggest

879
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>problem being that I think somebody's darker, they're from somewhere else. Uh,

880
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.079
<v Speaker 2>don't say that instantly. But if you take a look

881
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.639
<v Speaker 2>at how they're reacting and what it is they're willing

882
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to believe without any sort of proof, you kind of

883
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 2>get a hint where their mindset is, you know. So,

884
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 2>but it is a mixed bag, and I think that

885
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.159
<v Speaker 2>is something that needs to be recognized as well. You're right,

886
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>so going on with the presidential thing, and I want

887
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 2>to kind of close on this because I know you're

888
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>not paying that much attention to it, but you do

889
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 2>realize that all the things you're worried about are going

890
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.960
<v Speaker 2>to come into play one way or another depending on

891
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 2>which regime steps forward. Here coming up real soon, and

892
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be different. But I don't see a

893
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 2>good outcome. If you're worried about the technocracy, if you're

894
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:29.119
<v Speaker 2>worried about the rise of totalitarian you know, thought processes.

895
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I think you've got two different brands of totalitarianism running

896
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 2>against each other. That's the way I feel about it,

897
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's not a very popular view. But what I

898
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 2>found interesting this week was the interesting packs that are

899
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 2>out there running commercials. Now, you know about commercials, and

900
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you know what robo calls.

901
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Are and all that, Right, I think when one party

902
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>calls you to push to get you to vote no

903
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>for them, Yeah, it's.

904
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Sort of like, you know, a pre recorded message that

905
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>calls people up and then you listen to their message

906
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's you know, political or social based or go

907
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:07.360
<v Speaker 2>out and vote for this proposition whatever. And they have

908
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 2>machines that do this, or the U STAB machines. Now,

909
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 2>there's probably some sort of computer program that you know,

910
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you get a ton of phone numbers, you feed it

911
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>in and a computer will make those calls all day,

912
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 2>so you don't even have to hire a person, right,

913
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>But what I found interesting is that these robo calls

914
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and of course campaign commercials and everything rise up and

915
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, they distribute things like Trump and his garbage

916
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>trucks branded garbage truck today, stuff like that, and that's

917
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 2>all part of the game, I know that. But at

918
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the same time, there's also these really interesting people that

919
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 2>get involved with robo calls, and there's always suspect crap

920
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 2>that goes on regarding this. Right. So what we discovered,

921
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, just in recent days, is that there's a

922
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 2>GOP based right which means it's you know, Trump's party.

923
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 2>There's a GOP based you know, group which claims to

924
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 2>be some other under some other name, and I forget

925
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the name of it, but we're gonna find it out

926
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 2>in just second, because I'm gonna play an audio clip

927
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 2>that's out there, and of course they're bashing Kamala Harris

928
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 2>and being in support of Trump and also telling you

929
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 2>that since you know, Bobby Kennedy decided to you know,

930
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 2>suspend his run for the White House, he's joined the

931
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump team. So if you're a Kennedy guy, you should

932
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.239
<v Speaker 2>join the Trump team too, if you like Kennedy. Right,

933
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:33.239
<v Speaker 2>it's doing all that, But then they have another interesting

934
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:35.360
<v Speaker 2>thing out there, and I'm gonna play it and you'll

935
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>be able to hear it too, regarding a third party

936
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.639
<v Speaker 2>candidate who I'm not sure if she's still running or not,

937
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.559
<v Speaker 2>but let's take a listen to it. And this is

938
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 2>again it's the same pack that is pro Trump, anti Harris,

939
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 2>that is running this as a robo call in battleground

940
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:57.719
<v Speaker 2>states right.

941
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:03.599
<v Speaker 5>Now, Kamala Harris will never stop the genocide in Gaza.

942
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 5>Even though Netanyahu said Israel will destroy Gaza and turn

943
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 5>them into rubble. Kamala Harris said she is unwavering in

944
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 5>her support of Israel and will never change even campaigning

945
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.480
<v Speaker 5>with the Chenese. Do not vote for Kamala Harris. You

946
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 5>have a better choice Jill Stein for president. She will

947
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 5>stand up to Israel, demand a ceasefire and the military aid,

948
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 5>and fight for the greater good. If you care about

949
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 5>Palestinian lives, vote Jill Stein for President on or before

950
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 5>November fifth, paid for by Badger Values. Now author with

951
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:36.400
<v Speaker 5>any candidate.

952
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Really interesting here? This is Jennifer with Okay, I'm going

953
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to back that up. But what's really interesting here is

954
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that they're pro Palestine, and you know, hey, look somebody's

955
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 2>got to push back against Israel. Now, anybody who knows

956
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the GOP platform and Trump's own statements knows that if

957
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 2>you're on that side of the equation, you're a supporter

958
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 2>of the state nation state of Israel. You know, Trump

959
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.280
<v Speaker 2>moved the embassy, the whole bit, right, You're supposed to

960
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 2>be in support of them absolutely, And meanwhile, one of

961
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>their pro packs is telling you, hey, look, you want

962
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.079
<v Speaker 2>to push back against Israel, don't vote for Harris. I

963
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 2>see that part of it, But they want you to

964
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 2>actually vote for Jill Stein your values.

965
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 5>There is only one candidate for president who will fight

966
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 5>for our planet, support of real Green New Deal, and banfracking.

967
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 5>And it's not Kamala Harris, it's Jill Stein. Well, Kamala

968
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.840
<v Speaker 5>has flip flopped on fracking, turned her back on the climate,

969
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 5>and openly opposes policies that would protect the climate. Wisconsin

970
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.639
<v Speaker 5>families have suffered, even our drinking water is now contaminated.

971
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.199
<v Speaker 5>If you agree that we need leadership will fight to

972
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.320
<v Speaker 5>protect our planet and end pollution in our lakes and rivers,

973
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.519
<v Speaker 5>please vote for Jill Stein on or before November fifth.

974
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 5>Thank you for your time, paid for by Badger Values,

975
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:53.639
<v Speaker 5>not authorized by any candidate.

976
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Or Okay, so you know in the end of it,

977
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.199
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I know, I cut it off. But

978
00:54:57.239 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 2>he just basically says, hey, look, we're an independent pack.

979
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 2>But I find it fascinating that they're literally telling you

980
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.280
<v Speaker 2>that if you support you know, the Green New Deal,

981
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:11.559
<v Speaker 2>a real Green New Deal, which nobody on the GOP

982
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 2>side supports. If you support this kind of stuff and see,

983
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:21.320
<v Speaker 2>in other words, philosophically, you're not on our side. But

984
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.599
<v Speaker 2>also Kamala Harris isn't on your side either. If you

985
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 2>agree with all this stuff, then you don't agree with Kamala.

986
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Vote for Jill Stein. They're literally trying to split the vote,

987
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 2>the liberal vote, which I think is hilarious. And I

988
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 2>know there's lots of ways that they do this overtly

989
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 2>in their campaign commercials, in their imaging, and their social

990
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 2>media campaigns, et cetera. You know, that's why there's a

991
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 2>guy hired there to seize upon any comment that's made

992
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>by whoever and to convolute things. You know, hey, look,

993
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 2>these are the policies that you're gonna get with this

994
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.280
<v Speaker 2>one because XYZ and you end up with you know,

995
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Trump going to a McDonald's to make French fries. Did

996
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 2>you see that one, by the way, Yeah, okay, I

997
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:08.599
<v Speaker 2>was just curious that we happened to catch that. Trump

998
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 2>with the French fries was pretty damn funny. But you know,

999
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>then you get Trump with the garbage truck, et cetera,

1000
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 2>and Biden drooling on himself, and hey, she forgot to

1001
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.960
<v Speaker 2>tell people he was drooling on himself. I know, I know,

1002
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know, all these things happening, it's very, very

1003
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.719
<v Speaker 2>weird to have a group come out and say, you know,

1004
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.519
<v Speaker 2>you know all those things that you want to support

1005
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.280
<v Speaker 2>because you believe in the liberal side, well, don't vote

1006
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 2>for a Kamala because she's not really liberal. They're literally

1007
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 2>giving free help to Jill Stein, which isn't going to

1008
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:41.599
<v Speaker 2>be much help. But I mean, even if they can

1009
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.440
<v Speaker 2>peel off a couple thousand votes, that could be significant

1010
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 2>in a place like well, one of those answers from

1011
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.519
<v Speaker 2>one of those robo calls was designed for Wisconsin. The

1012
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:54.920
<v Speaker 2>other one I think might have been Pennsylvania. But either way,

1013
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 2>they're pushing positions that they're pack, which is generally in

1014
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 2>support of Trump and his platform as it appears to be.

1015
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 2>They're opposed, you know. They're saying, if you're opposed to

1016
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 2>all these things that are actually in opposition to Trump,

1017
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.920
<v Speaker 2>even though they support Trump, go vote for Jill Stein

1018
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 2>instead of Kamala Harris. I mean, I don't know if

1019
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I've made that clear enough to everybody here. It's kind

1020
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:24.719
<v Speaker 2>of funny and It's really weird to watch these contortions

1021
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:31.000
<v Speaker 2>of philosophical and intellectual feats going on here while they're

1022
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 2>pushing this selection process. I mean, do you have any

1023
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.360
<v Speaker 2>thoughts about this kind of thing where we're getting so

1024
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 2>weird it's hard to know really who the hell is saying, what,

1025
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 2>what each super pac actually represents, et cetera, et cetera.

1026
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you find any of this strange at

1027
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 2>all or unique for this time period, because to me,

1028
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 2>it seems like we've entered a new era. This is

1029
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 2>not all just business as usual, although they've kept business

1030
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 2>as usual. Well, we're going into a new era where literally,

1031
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, calling people all kinds of weird names, including

1032
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 2>just calling them weird, literally calling other people garbage, using

1033
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 2>foul language directly to approach people. Indeed, even Trump coming

1034
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 2>out and saying directly that these people are destroying America

1035
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and making children, you know, available to be trafficked, and

1036
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean really statements that only maybe a few years

1037
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<v Speaker 2>ago might have been seen as oh my god, this

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00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely earth shattering, bizarre, completely outside the bounds of

1039
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:44.599
<v Speaker 2>normal decency and political discourse. How dare they even say

1040
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 2>these things? It has all now become a massive sow

1041
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Speaker 2>ball of static. That's just making lots of noise and

1042
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 2>keeping people amped up, you know, if they're worried about

1043
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 2>boys participating in girls' sports, and if they're worried about

1044
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 2>this and that, and oh, by the way, Ted Cruz

1045
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 2>is being challenged pretty heartily apparently for his position as

1046
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a senator in Texas by a guy who is really

1047
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.960
<v Speaker 2>ringing out that fact that during a storm and everything

1048
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 2>frozen over and the power went out in his area,

1049
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 2>he went on vacation, something that should have been brought

1050
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.239
<v Speaker 2>up many years ago and should be brought up all

1051
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the time regarding how much he represents and suffers along

1052
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 2>with his constituents up in air quotes for those of

1053
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you playing at home. You know, really we have entered

1054
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a new time here regarding this political discourse, I think.

1055
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:43.000
<v Speaker 2>But then again, maybe I'm just I've lost it. And

1056
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the sad part is and the thing that I lament

1057
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:49.639
<v Speaker 2>most is that even though I'm wishing and hoping that

1058
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>November fifth comes and goes and will be done with

1059
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:56.719
<v Speaker 2>all of this, I think the handwringing, the complaints and

1060
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the challenges to the selection, and these sore losers and

1061
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.079
<v Speaker 2>sore winners are going to carry on this nonsense for

1062
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:10.079
<v Speaker 2>many months afterwards, and we're going to get just more

1063
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and more friction out of this. I don't know where

1064
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.239
<v Speaker 2>it all ends. Do you have any thoughts on this?

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01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think what you just laid out speaks

1066
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 1>to what I said earlier. They want to make a

1067
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:26.199
<v Speaker 1>joke of the American system to bring in technocracy. And

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01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:28.639
<v Speaker 1>you know when you mentioned like one reason I don't

1069
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 1>want to vote is I feel it's it's meaningless, Like

1070
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe the you know, I think the alphabet

1071
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 1>agencies are running the show.

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01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:40.639
<v Speaker 3>And you know, we just had it was yesterday.

1073
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Boxes of ballots were burning, and it's like someone is

1074
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>sabotaging this intentionally. I would always bet first on the

1075
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 1>security States and the alphabet agencies doing that, because you know,

1076
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 1>what would the solution be in the technocratic system. It

1077
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 1>would be blockchain digital vote with your app that can

1078
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 1>be verified. Let's let's not do the mail in ballast,

1079
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:09.639
<v Speaker 1>but people are burning them, illegals are being counted, and

1080
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 1>so let's do the blockchain model. And then even with

1081
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 1>that system, how can you tell.

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01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:16.360
<v Speaker 3>What they're doing?

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01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, some years back, I interviewed doctor Robert Epstein,

1084
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 1>who's who's he does amazing work and he's he's tracking,

1085
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 1>he's got the proof. He shows how big Tech and

1086
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon can sway.

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01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:27.960
<v Speaker 3>The vote any which way they like.

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01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And his work was so powerful that he even you know,

1089
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:35.639
<v Speaker 1>his wife was mysteriously died in the car crash months

1090
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.519
<v Speaker 1>after Attorney generals warned him about him dying in a

1091
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:41.880
<v Speaker 1>car crash, and he says, hey, it's possible that the

1092
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Google and the government took out my wife. And again,

1093
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if they can basically put whoever they want into power,

1094
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:56.079
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they if they want Kamala for whatever reasons,

1095
01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they can put her in. If they want Trump for

1096
01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, they can put him in. Some people are saying,

1097
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe they would like Trump and because he

1098
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:04.519
<v Speaker 1>can be the fault, that's when the economy's gonna collapse

1099
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and then they can pin everything on you know, the

1100
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Conservatives and Trump or you know, or they have six

1101
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, was it Chuck the other the other Chuck

1102
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Schumer was, uh, got they've got six ways from someday

1103
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to deal with you the other Chuck.

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01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's really bad because that guy wow, uh, you know,

1105
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 2>years ago, there was a guy who called him Chuck

1106
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:28.280
<v Speaker 2>E Cheese Schubert on the radio, and I used to

1107
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 2>laugh at that because he does remind me of a rat.

1108
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, just his appearance. He kind of has

1109
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:37.519
<v Speaker 2>a rat face. But anyway, sorry, look, I get it,

1110
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:40.199
<v Speaker 2>and I get all that. But what's amazing to me

1111
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 2>is I'm probably the only guy. And by the way,

1112
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm not happy about Trump. And I've always said I

1113
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 2>got a unique opinion about this guy. I never liked

1114
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.400
<v Speaker 2>him to begin with, and I always felt that he

1115
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 2>was a disaster and I think he proved himself to

1116
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.880
<v Speaker 2>be a disaster last time he was in But if

1117
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you ask a Trump supporter, you put that past the

1118
01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Trump supporter, they will get all over you about how

1119
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Yeah, the economy's worse, that's for sure, you

1120
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.400
<v Speaker 2>know without him in office, but he wasn't the one

1121
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:10.360
<v Speaker 2>making it good. One Two, this guy is not on

1122
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 2>our side. I mean, look, I lived in the New York,

1123
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.199
<v Speaker 2>New Jersey area, so I was familiar with this guy

1124
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Shenanigan's long before he ran for president, and most of

1125
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 2>the country has gotten to know him. But they have

1126
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:27.840
<v Speaker 2>really cherry picked and decided of which parts they really

1127
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 2>like and which parts they don't, and anything that he

1128
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:34.239
<v Speaker 2>even rubs them the wrong way, literally goes against their

1129
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.760
<v Speaker 2>own beliefs. They twist back around into something else and

1130
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 2>make it so somehow it's acceptable. It's not really what

1131
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 2>he meant, it's you know, et cetera, et cetera, it's

1132
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.679
<v Speaker 2>one hundred other things except the blatant nonsense that it

1133
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.599
<v Speaker 2>actually is. So no matter what the excuse will be made,

1134
01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the twist will be done. And I think this guy's perfect,

1135
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 2>not because he's going to destroy the economy, but because

1136
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be really really passionate supporters who are

1137
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.039
<v Speaker 2>going to celebrate everything he does, no matter what the

1138
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 2>real result is. And that's the way it's gonna go.

1139
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:12.400
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be applause and cheers. No matter how much

1140
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.840
<v Speaker 2>things are destroyed, how many people are hurt, it'll all

1141
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 2>be blamed on somebody else. Anyway. Why is it that

1142
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Trump is failing, Oh, that's because of the people resisting him. Still,

1143
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's what it'll be, And that's where I

1144
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 2>think we're going. I honestly feel like he's still gonna

1145
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 2>be the projective winner. And you know, I don't know

1146
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:38.360
<v Speaker 2>what happens Kamala. I mean, we just look at her

1147
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 2>on the face of her, and we don't even go

1148
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.880
<v Speaker 2>into hyperbole. What in the hell good is she?

1149
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:44.000
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1150
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, seriously, what has she She's been a prosecutor. Yeah,

1151
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that's not a record that I'm drilled with. And you know,

1152
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.920
<v Speaker 2>somebody who was happily tossing people into prison for you know,

1153
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 2>cannabis crimes and making sure that parents went to jail

1154
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 2>because their kids didn't go to school. I'm really not

1155
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 2>all that enthused. And although you know, some people have

1156
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 2>tried to make the issue out of abortion and this

1157
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and that, that's not a cut and dry issue either,

1158
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:14.719
<v Speaker 2>you know. So I don't get it. I don't get

1159
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.719
<v Speaker 2>what the reason to support her would be, no matter

1160
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:21.880
<v Speaker 2>how you anyway you slice it. And honestly, he seems,

1161
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, less and less sane as every day goes.

1162
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Why But the people that support him, they hear something

1163
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.079
<v Speaker 2>entirely different from what I hear, and they see something

1164
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:34.679
<v Speaker 2>entirely different. So I don't know. I feel like he's

1165
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.079
<v Speaker 2>still I still project him to be the winner. I

1166
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.079
<v Speaker 2>will be surprised if he does not win. It'll be

1167
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 2>by a close margin. And whoever loses is going to

1168
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 2>cry foul. So you know, how long is this going

1169
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to drag out? After November fifth? I guess we have

1170
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to stay tuned, But I don't know. I just don't

1171
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.559
<v Speaker 2>see improvements or an ending or a cessation to the problem.

1172
01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to amp up the problem, and

1173
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.599
<v Speaker 2>we're going to be more and more at each other's

1174
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:03.639
<v Speaker 2>throats as the years go by. Here, I think this

1175
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 2>is the design. Let us destroy each other with vitriol,

1176
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 2>with you know, the cold Sibyl war, if you will,

1177
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 2>let us continue to do that until the day comes

1178
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:19.239
<v Speaker 2>when it's time to actually collapse everything, which isn't as

1179
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 2>far off as some people think, but isn't right around

1180
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:24.280
<v Speaker 2>the corner either. I think we got a whole lot

1181
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.039
<v Speaker 2>more chaos to loose on the people, and a whole

1182
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:30.159
<v Speaker 2>lot more confusion to sell along with the fear porn

1183
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:34.599
<v Speaker 2>before it's really time to press the self destruct button.

1184
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.039
<v Speaker 2>But then again, once you have all the technocratic elements

1185
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.639
<v Speaker 2>in place perfectly well, that can be done really easily.

1186
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 2>And somebody like Elon Musk, who makes all of his

1187
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.239
<v Speaker 2>money from the government, really that's really what makes his money, right,

1188
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:52.119
<v Speaker 2>his government subsidies and such. You know, I don't know

1189
01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:55.519
<v Speaker 2>where he's going to land, but he's already got his billions,

1190
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 2>So you know, what are you going to do? And

1191
01:06:57.960 --> 01:06:59.760
<v Speaker 2>do you have any thoughts about that? The million dollar

1192
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:03.079
<v Speaker 2>gain way elon Musk joining Trump, I mean, what are

1193
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:05.119
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts about that? When it comes to the context

1194
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.519
<v Speaker 2>of the technocracy, And then I'll just get a word

1195
01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 2>from you and we'll conclude this one.

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01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I've got a starlink right here behind me,

1197
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:16.119
<v Speaker 1>so it's useful technology.

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01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:17.199
<v Speaker 3>It's a Plan B for me.

1199
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.440
<v Speaker 1>But and I was gonna say that I think Trump,

1200
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:25.880
<v Speaker 1>at least for me, he's less dislikable than you know

1201
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>him and some of those people that than other folks.

1202
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 1>But I would agree with you what you said earlier

1203
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 1>that he's not really on our side. And what else,

1204
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I like the term that used Cold Civil War. I

1205
01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 1>think he is projected to be the winner, but then

1206
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.519
<v Speaker 1>they're saying they won't certify him even though if you won,

1207
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and then it just leads us into this entire mess

1208
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and and madness.

1209
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Musk, I think he's just.

1210
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:53.440
<v Speaker 1>The front man for again, the military industrial complex, you know,

1211
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the SpaceX, the starlinks, Tesla's the humanoid robots. He's the

1212
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Tony Stark and some ways, you know, Marvel iron Man

1213
01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:08.519
<v Speaker 1>was the predictive propaganda for what they were going to do. Anyways,

1214
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the darker man and he's just making

1215
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the bitter pill sweet. You know, he's making the great

1216
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Reset cool. He's like they use the good cop, bad cop,

1217
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Cloud Schwab bad Cop, Elon Musk good cop,

1218
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's effectively, there's memes that have been made about this,

1219
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and effectively Elon Musk is selling the same thing.

1220
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:31.600
<v Speaker 3>That Klaud Schwab is.

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01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:34.720
<v Speaker 1>But because it's Elon Moss, Hey cool, he's a cool dude,

1222
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me get that NEURALALNK brain trip, you know.

1224
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:40.880
<v Speaker 3>And so that's how I see it.

1225
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the for me, it's the I'm trying to

1226
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 1>remove emotion from all of this. A lot of people

1227
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:50.399
<v Speaker 1>get caught up with emotion and human nature. You know,

1228
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, human nature is sinful. And people want

1229
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:57.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody to worship. They want to idolize, idolatry, and that's

1230
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.560
<v Speaker 1>why they want putin. They want to try they want

1231
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you want an etal Musk to save us. And I'm

1232
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:07.199
<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm sorry, but yeah, no, that's not They're

1233
01:09:07.239 --> 01:09:08.840
<v Speaker 1>not gonna They're not gonna save us.

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01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:09.319
<v Speaker 4>No.

1235
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:13.479
<v Speaker 2>See, there is the problem altogether. Look, people are in

1236
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:15.960
<v Speaker 2>search of saviors, and for some of them it is

1237
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the government in general, and it may be the computer

1238
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:22.039
<v Speaker 2>that's attached to it. In other people's minds, it is

1239
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the imperfect instrument of the perfect God, and therefore God's representative,

1240
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<v Speaker 2>no matter how ungodly he is, like Trump, like Musk,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. You know a guy who is buying and

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<v Speaker 2>rebranding everything with an X. Think about it, SpaceX, twitters

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<v Speaker 2>now X, and billions of dollars can fly all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place. You can't even literally picture in your own

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<v Speaker 2>mind a billion of almost anything. I mean, you might

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<v Speaker 2>have seen a billion grains of sand at some point

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<v Speaker 2>in your life, but other than that, you've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>a billion of anything, especially not dollars. And most of

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<v Speaker 2>us will never see anything like that in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the saddest part of it all. All these

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<v Speaker 2>people out there and per saviors, they always forget to

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<v Speaker 2>look in the mirror and to themselves for their own

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<v Speaker 2>direction and their own divinely inspired choices that they can make, because,

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<v Speaker 2>after all, if by virtue of your creation you are

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<v Speaker 2>endowed with freedom in general as one of those you know,

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<v Speaker 2>factory installed elements to your creature design. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>interesting that people still look for a savior to lead them. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>where can we find your substack and your podcast? Please

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<v Speaker 2>one more time before we get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Geopoliticsnampar dot com is the HQ webs site and geopolitics

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<v Speaker 1>Nampire dot substack dot com if people want to become

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<v Speaker 1>either free subscribers there or paid subscribers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You do have a free subscriber thing over there. But

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<v Speaker 2>obviously if you like what he had to say today,

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<v Speaker 2>or you appreciate his programs, or you just think is

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<v Speaker 2>you know a cool guy, go over there and support him.

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<v Speaker 2>I would suggest it, because the only way we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have any independent media is with independent support, and

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<v Speaker 2>that means guess who you see? Once again, the solution

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<v Speaker 2>is you stop looking for saviors, but you can always

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<v Speaker 2>hear someone else's voice and opinions. So thanks for joining me,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you guys for listening. After all, I am

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<v Speaker 2>mere le o'celly. All of you are indeed the effect.

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<v Speaker 6>Good night.

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<v Speaker 7>Yo, Yolas Doug Campbell, host of the Dallas Action podcast

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<v Speaker 7>presented by Wall Street Window, and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 7>the o'chile effect revelation through conversation.

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<v Speaker 8>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

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<v Speaker 8>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

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<v Speaker 8>the context of the times and reveals never before published

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<v Speaker 8>information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not

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<v Speaker 8>have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred

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<v Speaker 8>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

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<v Speaker 8>the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.

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<v Speaker 8>Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic.

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<v Speaker 8>In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower.

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<v Speaker 8>Generals such as Ertist Lamy not only wanted to invade Cuba,

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<v Speaker 8>but knew that there were short range missiles on the

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<v Speaker 8>island aren't with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy

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<v Speaker 8>because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have

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<v Speaker 8>led to a Third World War, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson

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<v Speaker 8>reveals why, and we'll show you what President Kennedy was

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<v Speaker 8>up against for more information the War State dot com.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, call it the truth about the Day Pay Assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, what do you want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriends he knew Ruby and

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<v Speaker 5>Barry answer weapons?

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<v Speaker 7>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me a wagon.

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<v Speaker 5>But okay, Oswald was on the building and trying to

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<v Speaker 5>prevent the murder of John Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on now, has a real effort on the Day

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<v Speaker 1>Pay Assassination. Book into her flames.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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<v Speaker 2>own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy

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<v Speaker 2>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

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<v Speaker 2>and the known evidence in the case to get at well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith Barry

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<v Speaker 2>Baker in her own words from the author himself signed

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<v Speaker 2>if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at k

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<v Speaker 2>I as jfk at aol dot com. It's a fun

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<v Speaker 2>book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims

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<v Speaker 2>Judith Vary Baker in her own.

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<v Speaker 9>Words Radio in Denial, the Secret Wars with air Strikes

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<v Speaker 9>and tanks by Larry Hancock.

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<v Speaker 10>Secret wars became a staple of US covert operations and

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<v Speaker 10>are still happening today. Larry Hancock's book In Denial rips

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<v Speaker 10>the cover off many of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Using new files.

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<v Speaker 10>It exposes things about the Bay and Pigs that no

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<v Speaker 10>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

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<v Speaker 10>really failed and why the United States did not learn

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<v Speaker 10>from it. It also shows why other countries today are

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<v Speaker 10>doing secret operations with more success. This is the book

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<v Speaker 10>that puts what some want to deny into the light.

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<v Speaker 10>In Denial, Secret wars with air strikes and tanks Larryhancock.

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<v Speaker 10>For more information go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com.

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<v Speaker 10>Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot

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<v Speaker 10>com in digital or physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, could use expressed my caller stools there anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>who happens to get on the air to Jelly dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not necessarily reple views of Jelly dot com or

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<v Speaker 2>junko Jelly, and we are not responsible for any stupidity

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<v Speaker 2>which might ensue. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>Do you like history? Real history that you were never

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<v Speaker 11>events that led up to this Why the Vietnam War,

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