Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 2: October thirty, twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that thing
Speaker 2: we call a calendar, this is the O'Kelly effect. And
Speaker 2: we are well live on a woll Wednesday, Wednesday, and
Speaker 2: it is the middle of a week, and as per usual,
Speaker 2: scheduling is walking with the network and people, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But I'm really happy to have a guest that I
Speaker 2: just asked, oh, I don't know today to come on
Speaker 2: the show. I had other plans in mind this week,
Speaker 2: and I wasn't even going to do any JFK shows
Speaker 2: because I did that last week. But I think this
Speaker 2: will be an interesting visit with somebody that we have
Speaker 2: had on the show before and was working for TNT
Speaker 2: at one point in the not too distant past. But
Speaker 2: the now defunct TNT radio network, well maybe it's not defunct.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's been rebranded, because I see it rebranded out there,
Speaker 2: and I don't even feel like giving them air. But
Speaker 2: weird thing when you see people transpose their network into
Speaker 2: something else, you know, it reminds me of the early
Speaker 2: two thousands when this happened several times, and places like
Speaker 2: Oracle and Jaez O'Ryan and other online radio networks change hands,
Speaker 2: ownerships split off into little groups. It was a weird
Speaker 2: time back then, and I don't know, are we seeing
Speaker 2: that today? It's a lot easier. And hell, you don't
Speaker 2: need a radio network anymore because you can just what
Speaker 2: broadcast on Twitter ex if you want ex Twitter whatever
Speaker 2: it is Elon Musk's platform is I mean, is he
Speaker 2: too busy in Pennsylvania at the moment trying to give
Speaker 2: away a million dollars? Maybe, But we're going to get
Speaker 2: to a bunch of stuff. And I might even ask
Speaker 2: my guest today what he thinks about the robocall and
Speaker 2: the other weird stuff going on with the presidential selection
Speaker 2: here in the US, because, as I said, being that
Speaker 2: it is hell Night, mischief Knight, the day before Halloween
Speaker 2: in America. Hey, you know what, we're only well less
Speaker 2: than a week now away from that Tuesday that's coming up. Huh,
Speaker 2: November fifth? Is that the date that's supposed I think
Speaker 2: that's when it's supposed to happen, November fifth, So that'll
Speaker 2: be the next coming Tuesday. Strange, But will the story
Speaker 2: end there? I don't think so. Trump v Harris, Harris v. Trump,
Speaker 2: whatever it is you want to call it, and the
Speaker 2: battle for the soul of America continues, although if you're
Speaker 2: watching the ads you might think it's the battle over
Speaker 2: who gets to play in what sports abortion and say
Speaker 2: it to my face. Yes, I know that was in coherent.
Speaker 2: So is the campaign. So are some of the people
Speaker 2: involved in the campaign. And oh, by the way, Joe
Speaker 2: Biden's got a garbage can and Trump has a garbage
Speaker 2: truck today if you didn't see that. But do I
Speaker 2: want to get into specific news. No, I want to
Speaker 2: have a chat with a guy who's got a better
Speaker 2: radio voice than me, but a name that I have
Speaker 2: a hard time pronouncing because it's what croatian I think
Speaker 2: in Oregon. But anyway, hergo yeah, all right, I think
Speaker 2: I did that correct? Anyway? Yeah? Hey, is that correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You got it?
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Oh hey man, how you doing? And also tell people
Speaker 2: you have a podcast now, because that show that was
Speaker 2: named after you on TNT is no longer. I don't
Speaker 2: know if archives are available of it anyway, yea, everything
Speaker 2: is still up.
Speaker 3: I would guess even yours is up.
Speaker 1: All the even the people who departed or were forced
Speaker 1: to depart, The archives will remain up.
Speaker 2: Yes, and oh, yes, yeah, mine disappeared, So mine are gone.
Speaker 2: I know that. But I sort of got blacklisted by
Speaker 2: those guys, which is why I have to laugh. They
Speaker 2: closed up shop, But I asked you before we went
Speaker 2: to air, Hey, were you still on board on staff?
Speaker 2: Were you still part of the station when they allegedly
Speaker 2: closed up shop with Mike Ryan out there saying that,
Speaker 2: I guess people didn't really want free speech. That was
Speaker 2: the thrust of the statements he was making, because he
Speaker 2: was saying that his platform was all about free speech.
Speaker 2: And you know, they lost investors or they lost funding,
Speaker 2: one way or another, he said, and it was time
Speaker 2: to give up the ghost, and so they did on
Speaker 2: a Friday apparently. But you weren't there at the time,
Speaker 2: were you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: By the way, I actually I checked, and a lot
Speaker 1: of the TND presenters get this wrong. Your archive is
Speaker 1: still up, it's just not easy to find. It's on
Speaker 1: the pod. Mean, I'll actually send you the link.
Speaker 2: Snow caring.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I decided to leave after two full years in
Speaker 1: March mid March. I was just simply burned out and
Speaker 1: so I left. You know, I'm still on good terms
Speaker 1: with the TNT folks, and yeah, I left, and then
Speaker 1: six months later, you know, somewhere what like a month ago,
Speaker 1: they shut down. I guess they lost the funding. And
Speaker 1: just today, you know, it's all news to me. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not talking to anyone there, but they've been
Speaker 1: rebranded the Pulse today and I guess they did a
Speaker 1: stream today and yeah, I don't know, maybe they've gotten
Speaker 1: you investors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something something has happened over there. I'm not claiming
Speaker 2: to know what happened either. I just know that damn,
Speaker 2: you made it two years and I couldn't make it
Speaker 2: two weeks over there. So it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Eight days, my brother, that's how long I lasted. And
Speaker 2: I only broadcast well let's see, I think six of them. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a weekend in there as well, but as
Speaker 2: far as I knew, I hadn't been fired until that Monday,
Speaker 2: and after I finished my broadcast, I was told, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't need to show up tomorrow. So it was
Speaker 2: what it was. I had a five day week show
Speaker 2: over there. Anyway. Well, let's put that aside and know
Speaker 2: I'm not bitter at all, but I did find it
Speaker 2: ironic because he was claiming you know, kind of kind
Speaker 2: of sour grapes considering that they you know, people just
Speaker 2: don't want free speech, which I found odd because I
Speaker 2: was shut down for not saying things that they wanted
Speaker 2: said and also not agreeing with the position, which is
Speaker 2: pretty much why my show was taken away. So I
Speaker 2: found that funny. I mean, I don't ask you to
Speaker 2: comment on that. You seem to be thriving over there,
Speaker 2: but now you do just your own podcast and where
Speaker 2: can people find your independent whenever you feel like doing
Speaker 2: when you're posting it podcasts by the way, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't have a schedule. Some weeks I'll record six podcasts
Speaker 1: a week or you know, one to two. And Geopoliticsnempire
Speaker 1: dot com is the website and then the substack Geopolitics
Speaker 1: and Empire dot subsec dot com and primarily support it
Speaker 1: through you know, paid subscriptions membership on the substack where
Speaker 1: I do weekly group zoom calls with members where we
Speaker 1: shoot the breeze, and weekly commentary and analysis where I
Speaker 1: bring together the best headlines of the week and put
Speaker 1: out my thoughts. And I've been I've been doing the podcasts.
Speaker 1: I count from twenty twelve so basically for over a decade.
Speaker 1: Most of the time it was a hobby, moonlighting, you know,
Speaker 1: while I was working full time just for fun. But
Speaker 1: now I'm trying my hand at podcasting full time, so
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2: All right. Well, you know, I've started in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: so just after you. But basically since twenty fourteen, this
Speaker 2: is essentially all I do. I mean, I've done a
Speaker 2: couple of side jobs here and there, but quite honestly,
Speaker 2: podcasting and I independently record, you know, commercials for people,
Speaker 2: and I do voiceovers if people are willing to hire me,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But politics and empty you know what.
Speaker 2: I subscribe to your substack, just so you know, and
Speaker 2: that's how I know you still exist. But you know,
Speaker 2: it was it was strange for me to see that
Speaker 2: you were still and I saw your name earlier this
Speaker 2: week and I said to myself, you know, I'd love
Speaker 2: to talk to this guy again because I really enjoyed
Speaker 2: our conversation. And even though you and I might have
Speaker 2: slightly different opinions about what's happening, you know, you're very rational, sensible,
Speaker 2: and again you've got a great radio voice, so I
Speaker 2: love having discussions with again, rational sensible people who are
Speaker 2: willing to pick some things apart with me and also
Speaker 2: put up with my little rants here and there while
Speaker 2: I'm talking to them. So all those plus is in
Speaker 2: your column there her Vollier. And it's weird because I
Speaker 2: read your name all the time, but mispronounce it in
Speaker 2: my own head. So I again, I did, honestly have
Speaker 2: to ask how to pronounce it right before we went
Speaker 2: to air. And he's been a guest on my show before.
Speaker 2: It's just did you want?
Speaker 3: You can do her her nickname nice.
Speaker 2: That would be a lot easier. I could just call
Speaker 2: you Herb you really want, That's not a problem.
Speaker 1: I was a kid. People will call me when it
Speaker 1: was teenager Herve nice, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, they were not Hervey though, right Nobody ever called.
Speaker 3: You Hervey I think so too.
Speaker 2: So okay cool. I mean, I do not call me Chucky.
Speaker 2: I hate that, but uh, you know, Chuck Charles. If
Speaker 2: you call me Charles, I want to know which bill
Speaker 2: collector or government agency you're with. But you know, so
Speaker 2: everybody calls me Chuck. But anyway, does anybody care about this?
Speaker 2: Probably not. I want to get into some of the
Speaker 2: stuff because I know you talk about politics, and you
Speaker 2: also decidedly like to discuss other things. Maybe you didn't
Speaker 2: get to all of them on TNT, but clearly when
Speaker 2: you got something named politics an empire or excuse me,
Speaker 2: you're you're the name of your substack again, Geopoulo and empire. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I had it in front of me, and then I
Speaker 2: had other things in front of me that I was
Speaker 2: because I was trying to scroll through something and be slick,
Speaker 2: but I messed it up. So yeah, geopolitics and empire.
Speaker 2: Obviously you're concerned about global issues and things that affect
Speaker 2: people on the international stage, so geopolitics and maybe even
Speaker 2: deep politics in general would be interests of yours. So
Speaker 2: tell me what is kind of like in your crosshairs
Speaker 2: at the moment. What is it that is catching your
Speaker 2: attention or are you just as swept up in the
Speaker 2: American selection process as it seems like most of our
Speaker 2: dominant corporate media is, and well, let's be honest, the
Speaker 2: allegedly independent media we have even all swept up in
Speaker 2: Harris v. Trump or Trump v. Harris and other weird
Speaker 2: things going on, which, by the way, I got a
Speaker 2: couple of audio clips I want to play for you
Speaker 2: and ask your opinion about But so outside of the
Speaker 2: election or are you just focused on the selection? Again,
Speaker 2: I should use the proper term selection because nobody is elected,
Speaker 2: believe it or not. Stop the steal. They can't steal
Speaker 2: from you what you don't own anyway, her, What is
Speaker 2: actually on your mind in geopolitics and empire currently?
Speaker 1: Well, regarding the election, I've sort of I'm not really
Speaker 1: paying much attention to it. I've sort of given up
Speaker 1: on voting as a US citizen or any citizen for
Speaker 1: that matter. And I find us between between a rock
Speaker 1: and a hard place basically, And I get my focus
Speaker 1: is in general, are globalism or our trend toward a
Speaker 1: world state or world governments? Because and then everything else
Speaker 1: that's going on, you know, For example, I just interviewed
Speaker 1: Kid Nightly of Off Guardian in UK, which has a
Speaker 1: great it's a great platform. He agreed with me that
Speaker 1: pretty much all the other stuff that's going on, bricks,
Speaker 1: world War three, talk, the elections, all of that has
Speaker 1: to do with trying to bring about this world state.
Speaker 1: And with these elections, for example, I feel they want
Speaker 1: to bring in, you know, the elites want to bring
Speaker 1: in technocracy, scientific dictatorship. And it's almost as if they're
Speaker 1: trying to make America look as ridiculous, you know, as
Speaker 1: clown show as possible, to make us look.
Speaker 3: Shameful to the rest of the world, so.
Speaker 1: That then they can say, look, this doesn't work, we
Speaker 1: need to bring in more of that you know, sort
Speaker 1: of Chinese model or that Singaporean model. And I'm referencing
Speaker 1: recently Graham Allison. He's this American mainstream intellectual who wrote
Speaker 1: a piece for Foreign Policy and he was talking about
Speaker 1: Singapore and he actually said, this was just a few
Speaker 1: months back. He said, look, America is falling apart. The
Speaker 1: infrastructure is falling apart. Yeah, yadah, everything's collapsing. But hey,
Speaker 1: look at Singapore. It's function well, it's a he actually
Speaker 1: said in the article something I'm paraphrasing, like benevolent dictatorship,
Speaker 1: or it's an authoritarian, technocratic sort of benevolent dictatorship. But
Speaker 1: the trains run on time, all the public water works,
Speaker 1: everything's functioning great.
Speaker 3: And so you can kind of see what they're trying
Speaker 3: to do here.
Speaker 1: And then you've got in the background, I think you
Speaker 1: mentioned Musk, you've got a lot of the technocrats standing
Speaker 1: behind Trump in the background, right. JD. Vans is backed
Speaker 1: by Peter Thiel. Elon Musk is there. He wants to
Speaker 1: bring in government efficiency, eliminate a whold swath of government,
Speaker 1: which on its face is a good thing. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be against that. But what's the real goal there. It's
Speaker 1: to bring in technocracy, because the technocracy's goal is to
Speaker 1: have a government run by algacracy. Algocracy means rule government,
Speaker 1: rule by algorithm, basically, and so if they decrease the
Speaker 1: size of the government, they're going to replace said basically
Speaker 1: with this technocratic big attack. And that's sort of the
Speaker 1: just That's why I'm not paying much attention.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned the garbage.
Speaker 1: I saw the images of the Trump and the garbage
Speaker 1: truck might be calling Trump voters garbage, and for me,
Speaker 1: that's all just.
Speaker 3: Background noise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, definitely, it's background noise. But you got to
Speaker 2: admit that the implementation of any technocracy is going to
Speaker 2: require the cooperation of whoever steps in there. But you know,
Speaker 2: to my mind, and I get criticized for this often,
Speaker 2: to my mind, there is little difference one side to
Speaker 2: the other outside of lip service. I mean, the fact
Speaker 2: is that one side of the equation or the other.
Speaker 2: You know, they have their talking points, they have their
Speaker 2: points of attack, which are influenced by sentimentality, and that's
Speaker 2: all true. And indeed they will change some things depending
Speaker 2: on who wins. But overall, the implementation of something like
Speaker 2: what you're talking about is coming no matter who occupies
Speaker 2: the White House, no matter who takes the big payday
Speaker 2: in the Congress or the Senate. You know, we're looking
Speaker 2: at no matter what, we're going in a certain direction.
Speaker 2: And I think the technocracy is one of those things
Speaker 2: that's universal. They may wish to implement it different ways,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, how do you
Speaker 2: feel about letting a computer run your life?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: That was the big question even Okay, what was it
Speaker 2: more than a decade ago, probably around the time you
Speaker 2: and I were kicking around the idea of starting podcasts, right,
Speaker 2: It was very, very popular the Zeitgeist movies, if you remember,
Speaker 2: and one of them, the Moving Forward movie, I think,
Speaker 2: contained an entire section about how you could It was
Speaker 2: a Jacques Frescoes, you know, saying about creating these kind
Speaker 2: of like cities that would be self sufficient, that would
Speaker 2: create a circumstance where indeed nobody needs to worry about food, shelter, etc.
Speaker 2: Because it would all be provided by a cooperative system
Speaker 2: that actually didn't require a bunch of labor, that didn't
Speaker 2: require a bunch of you know, the jobs and the
Speaker 2: trading of paper money and all that stuff. And I
Speaker 2: remember looking at those things and thinking, you know, this
Speaker 2: seems to be a clean and universally sort of benign
Speaker 2: idea which could be quite benevolent. The concept of, you know,
Speaker 2: the star Trek concept almost of going forward and allowing
Speaker 2: people to really devote their energies towards self improvement as
Speaker 2: opposed to survival on a constant basis didn't seem like
Speaker 2: a bad idea. But it removes from the equation personal freedoms,
Speaker 2: the ability to make your own decisions. There's no need
Speaker 2: to own property in that circumstance. So you know, some
Speaker 2: people immediately screamed communism, etc. There is even a movement
Speaker 2: of sorts which I think is still going on, the
Speaker 2: Meanness Project and a few other things. It still exists,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't have the i don't know, the popular
Speaker 2: attention online that it once did, where people are talking
Speaker 2: about maybe building these things in an experimental way. Let's
Speaker 2: see what happens if you create a city that sustains itself,
Speaker 2: where people could live without having to earn anything, but
Speaker 2: were encouraged forwards self improvement and further innovation and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, and they devoted themselves mainly to self improvement.
Speaker 2: You know, even with this idea that, look, you want
Speaker 2: to learn a musical instrument, you go to a main
Speaker 2: hub where either an instrument could be just you know,
Speaker 2: given to you for your use, or it could be
Speaker 2: printed by a three D printer. Right, you add more people,
Speaker 2: you can actually print more housing units with a giant
Speaker 2: three D printer, et cetera, et cetera. Wild ideas. But
Speaker 2: do you remember the Jacques Fresco concept?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember zech Geist and reading a bit about
Speaker 1: the Penis project.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but nowadays you have and that
Speaker 2: is a clearly a form of technocracy where the technology
Speaker 2: is the primary driver and organized organizing principle in a society.
Speaker 2: But we live in a very strange, bastardized thing now, uh.
Speaker 2: I mean I have literally seen a couple of these
Speaker 2: intellectuals even call for a social credit system. You know,
Speaker 2: that might be a good thing, Like they have in
Speaker 2: China because that's working out real well, you know, stuff
Speaker 2: like that. You actually see people out there with money,
Speaker 2: with power, with the ability to reach large amounts of
Speaker 2: audience on platforms of all sorts, uh, and not just
Speaker 2: the usual suspects. Stating that, you know, if we sort
Speaker 2: of turn things over to the AI, if we turn
Speaker 2: things over to what can be automated, if we turn
Speaker 2: things over to the technology, well eventually we'll get to
Speaker 2: the singularity. So you know, we'll just integrate ourselves into
Speaker 2: the machines and then you get into transhumanism and it'll
Speaker 2: all be okay. We just have to keep moving in
Speaker 2: that direction and go to Mars and trust Elon Musk
Speaker 2: And you know, am I rambling and babbling a little
Speaker 2: too much here?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. And I would just say, and this
Speaker 1: is why I tend to obsess over these few themes,
Speaker 1: because I think they are the most importance and they
Speaker 1: are being These projects are being implemented in every single
Speaker 1: country they are. It varies the degree to which they
Speaker 1: are being implemented because you know, it depends on the
Speaker 1: development of the country, but they are all there, and
Speaker 1: I can you know, people will think, as you mentioned China,
Speaker 1: the EU is basically this fascist, sutalitarian dictatorship. If you
Speaker 1: asked me, and I can say that, I'm a US citizen,
Speaker 1: so I supposedly they say, I have the right to
Speaker 1: say that because freedom and democracy and liberty and all that,
Speaker 1: except when you vote the wrong way like in Georgia, right,
Speaker 1: they don't like that, so you didn't vote right. But
Speaker 1: in Mexico here, for example, people will won't. You know,
Speaker 1: Mexico won't be the first country to come to mind
Speaker 1: when they think about tecnocressy and all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: just a month ago in mainstream like, I don't really
Speaker 1: you know, I don't go off of random bit shoot
Speaker 1: videos or forums. We're so far down this path that
Speaker 1: it's it's in the mainstream papers. So a Mexican mainstream
Speaker 1: paper a month ago said, look, Mexico City, which is
Speaker 1: like twenty five million plus people, they're going to divide it.
Speaker 1: It actually said that, it's they're going to make it
Speaker 1: at utopia. They literally said that, and they're going to
Speaker 1: divide it into multiple fifteen minute cities. And now other
Speaker 1: mayors in different parts of Mexico are coming out on
Speaker 1: their twitters make videos saying Hey, we're going to make
Speaker 1: our little talent here in Mexico fifteen minute city. And
Speaker 1: so they're attempting now to begin the deployment of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I guess it's going to be you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how fast they'll be able to implement it,
Speaker 1: because it's always you know, push and pull to to
Speaker 1: two steps for two steps forward, one step back. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. But it's it's in every country.
Speaker 2: Well, and the odd thing is that some things have
Speaker 2: been covertly introduced, right you know, we're we're going to
Speaker 2: need to track everything. Well, it turns out we're already
Speaker 2: tracking it. You know, things like you know, the delivery
Speaker 2: systems for certain things. Right when they needed to figure
Speaker 2: out how to deliver that alleged vaccine a little ways back, gee,
Speaker 2: instantly they figured out how to do that and refrigerate
Speaker 2: it and everything because of all the pre existing systems,
Speaker 2: you know. And that was the other thing. A lot
Speaker 2: of things are based on pre existing systems that you
Speaker 2: thought you knew about. Maybe we're rumored might have been
Speaker 2: part of conspiracy theory at one point, but turn out
Speaker 2: to be real, you know, much like the back door
Speaker 2: access that the government has to every telecommunication and existence
Speaker 2: in the United States. And they've had that since the nineties,
Speaker 2: you know, long before the smartphone was introduced to the public,
Speaker 2: et cetera. It's a very odd landscape, though, and it
Speaker 2: has continued to evolve and morph and change. And I
Speaker 2: dare say that no one who does not work in
Speaker 2: the technic industry directly has a real, complete grasp, a
Speaker 2: complete three hundred and sixty degree view of all the
Speaker 2: technocratic elements that are in play in our society at
Speaker 2: this point. I mean, you know, just the idea that
Speaker 2: surveillance cameras and you know, and the ability to look
Speaker 2: at you know, biological you know, fingerprints basically, and to
Speaker 2: be able to utilize things to mark somebody, you don't
Speaker 2: need a fingerprint anymore. You know, you can literally get
Speaker 2: somebody's gate and get all of their biometric information and boom,
Speaker 2: you have an individual identified from as far away as
Speaker 2: you like, with no problem tracking. You don't need a chip, you.
Speaker 1: Know, that's the next step. You know. I argue with
Speaker 1: some Christians like, you don't even need an implant, because
Speaker 1: you know, is the reference in book or revelations to
Speaker 1: forehead and right hand, and exactly what are they now
Speaker 1: rolling out palm payments or scans. There's your right hand
Speaker 1: or facial recognitions, so there's just eat your face or
Speaker 1: your right hand. And you know, just the latest example,
Speaker 1: there was a former Kuwaiti minister who you know, Kuwait
Speaker 1: is one of the ground Zero's uk Chrya. They're now
Speaker 1: forcing all citizens and foreigners in Kuwait to give up
Speaker 1: their biometrics and if they don't, they've already the deadline
Speaker 1: has passed. So tens of thousands of people now in
Speaker 1: Kuwait have had all of their bank accounts frozen completely,
Speaker 1: like they can't go to the bank to withdraw money,
Speaker 1: they can't take anything from the ATM.
Speaker 3: Completely frozen.
Speaker 1: You know, Visa and MasterCard are working with the Kuwaiti
Speaker 1: government to do this.
Speaker 3: I mean, this just destroys human rights.
Speaker 1: Right And the Kuwaiti minister comes back and I guess
Speaker 1: he'd been in Europe or Italy or whatever, and he
Speaker 1: came back, has a lot changed and he said, I'm
Speaker 1: not giving you my biometrics unless you you know, sign
Speaker 1: a note saying you're not going to use these biometrics
Speaker 1: to force me at some feature point to be injected
Speaker 1: with some mysterious elis or liquid and they said no,
Speaker 1: and they sent him back to Europe, which is unconstitutional
Speaker 1: because most virtually every country, if you're a citizen of
Speaker 1: that country, they cannot you deny you entry into your
Speaker 1: own country. But that's the face of the technocracy. It's
Speaker 1: it's doesn't care about logic or law. It's it's brute
Speaker 1: technological force. And you know this, this minister, he followed
Speaker 1: me back. He's got like hundreds of thousands of followers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he saw me sharing his story. And you know, I
Speaker 1: interviewed Edwin Black in twenty twenty. He's that historian who
Speaker 1: wrote on IBM and the Nazis, and he's he calls
Speaker 1: this system the algorithm ghetto, where you know, we're all
Speaker 1: going to be siloed off and into these they're going
Speaker 1: to be both literal and and you know, algorithm ghetto.
Speaker 3: It's it's little.
Speaker 1: You're literally going to be restrained to a physical location
Speaker 1: because if you go beyond that location, you know, they're
Speaker 1: going to take away our cars. Uh, and then your
Speaker 1: can't your payment system won't work if you go too
Speaker 1: far beyond, you know, using joelocation technologies, you just won't
Speaker 1: be able to use money and so basically that's their goal.
Speaker 3: So the question is to what extent can they really
Speaker 3: roll this out?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, Edwin Black, he's the guy who wrote Nazi Nexus.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that that book, right, Okay, yeah, hey, look
Speaker 2: that's a that's an amazing get And Edwin Black that's
Speaker 2: an interesting name too, because he you know, there's a
Speaker 2: maybe more than one guy named Edwin Black, uh that
Speaker 2: that wrote some interesting historical stuff. But the one you're
Speaker 2: talking about wrote that book I just referenced, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wrote about the eugenics as well, and how
Speaker 1: it was the Anglo American elites who helped you know,
Speaker 1: the eugenics was first in America and Britain before it
Speaker 1: was in Germany. And they, you know they, oh, I know,
Speaker 1: I believe me.
Speaker 2: I've been already, h I. I. I got scolded very
Speaker 2: very badly for stating that. You know, basically, when the
Speaker 2: US did Operation paper Clip and uh and also we
Speaker 2: did m K Naomi and all that, when that stuff
Speaker 2: was being done, it was really just our our getting
Speaker 2: turn on our investment, like it wasn't you know when
Speaker 2: Bush was a charge and I do mean Prescott, when
Speaker 2: he was charged with the Trading with the Enemies Act
Speaker 2: and all that, which, by the way, was only one
Speaker 2: count against him, But many other people at City Bank
Speaker 2: got charges against him too, He's just the most prominent name. Anyway,
Speaker 2: when that happened. This wasn't them seizing upon assets which
Speaker 2: were generated elsewhere. This was a return on an investment.
Speaker 2: Because it is really in the US where the eugenics
Speaker 2: programs and various ideas that people automatically link to the
Speaker 2: dogmatic reality of the Nazi eugenics programs. They believe that
Speaker 2: was all begun over there simply because it was the
Speaker 2: fever dream about all Hitler. But the truth is all
Speaker 2: of those ideas and ideals were transposed from America before
Speaker 2: they were landed over there, before you know, when Hitler
Speaker 2: was still getting you know, poison gas in this space
Speaker 2: in World War One, we were doing this here. And
Speaker 2: I don't mean we asn't anybody that I know had
Speaker 2: anything to do with it. I mean the United States
Speaker 2: was already working on this stuff, was already creating these
Speaker 2: concepts and refining them, and they were sent to Germany
Speaker 2: from here. So anything where we got assets back, intelligence
Speaker 2: people back, et cetera, et cetera. Because some people say, oh,
Speaker 2: then the Nazis infiltrated our government did this and that
Speaker 2: It's like, no, those people just came back after we
Speaker 2: had made an investment, an overseas investment was returned upon.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have gotten angry with me
Speaker 2: for it because like, how dare you say that about America?
Speaker 2: But you know, let's get an honest man. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. And uh, you know, and
Speaker 2: some people go, oh, you're one of those democratic you know,
Speaker 2: socialist liberals because you bring up bush and is trading
Speaker 2: with the enemies actor. But it's part of the historical record, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just is anyway. But I think that
Speaker 2: people fail to understand this, and they also fail to
Speaker 2: understand like they think things are coming. Like I love
Speaker 2: that that you point out that, look, you know, this
Speaker 2: has already happened. Other things have already happened too. Like
Speaker 2: every once in a while there's a big swell about
Speaker 2: we're going to a cashless society. We're already there. You see,
Speaker 2: the majority of what it is we trade as allegedly,
Speaker 2: you know, money is digital representations already. You know, the
Speaker 2: complaints about oh CBDC is coming and everything else. It's
Speaker 2: already basically here. All they need to do is codify
Speaker 2: it a little more and you know, you'll complete the process.
Speaker 2: All they got to do is purge that last little bit.
Speaker 2: The cash that's circulating is insignificant compared to how much
Speaker 2: digital currency has been created, how much imaginary currency has
Speaker 2: been created and is literally propping up the quote economy
Speaker 2: end quote. Okay, so this idea that we're going to
Speaker 2: be in a cashless society, show me where cash is
Speaker 2: king anymore outside of if you've got to make illegal transactions,
Speaker 2: and quite honestly, you can pay power cash app hookers
Speaker 2: and drugs now anyway. So you know, just saying money
Speaker 2: never has to touch your hands, I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: I bring up drugs and prostitution because those are the
Speaker 2: easiest things to point out where generally it used to
Speaker 2: be thought you had to have cash for it. And oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, people said that that was what the
Speaker 2: purpose of bitcoin was. I don't know what to think
Speaker 2: of bitcoin. I got to be honest with you, because
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, you know, I see double edged
Speaker 2: swords everywhere, but I mean, how many edges does the
Speaker 2: sword have when it comes to bitcoin, It's insane what's
Speaker 2: gone on there. And I, you know, I'd love to
Speaker 2: kick myself a few times because I was offered those
Speaker 2: things at eighty dollars a coin at one point. But
Speaker 2: you know, would I have held on to them all
Speaker 2: this time and be rich? I doubt it, you know,
Speaker 2: because I can barely hang onto a silver coin for
Speaker 2: more than a month. But but here we are, Okay.
Speaker 2: The technocracy is already everywhere, and it's just a matter
Speaker 2: of how soon will it be before anything that is
Speaker 2: analog is gone? And once it is all gone, here's
Speaker 2: the problem I have with it. Really, I'm not afraid
Speaker 2: of technology, or I'm not afraid that we're making trades digitally,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, not at all. My problem is
Speaker 2: that easily, not just you know, hackers. Be afraid of
Speaker 2: the hackers. They could take everything away, you know, give
Speaker 2: us the Fight Club ending, you know, for all of
Speaker 2: our bank accounts one day, get rid of all the credit,
Speaker 2: wipe the slate clean. You've seen the movie Fight Club.
Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet so, you know, at the end
Speaker 2: of the movie, not the book. The book's different, but
Speaker 2: at the end of the movie when they blow up
Speaker 2: all the you know, all the credit agencies and they
Speaker 2: wipe the credit cards away and all that. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: that can be done to everything, and selectively. It's just
Speaker 2: like the digital book burning, which is what I call it,
Speaker 2: which is taking place transfer everything away from the physical copies.
Speaker 2: So this way they're all subject to manipulation or deletion.
Speaker 2: And then what can you do if everybody needs to access,
Speaker 2: you know, this great book through their Kindle, Well you
Speaker 2: remove it from Kindle's library and it's gone and that's that.
Speaker 2: Nobody has it anymore.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're doing it to be green, and we're doing
Speaker 2: it to avoid destroying trees, and we're doing and at
Speaker 2: the same time, all they've done is taken it, edited
Speaker 2: it already altered its meaning, buried it somewhere, and then
Speaker 2: if it becomes too much of a nuisance, disappear it.
Speaker 2: And all of that is done without any sort of difficulty.
Speaker 2: You don't have to track down books, you don't have
Speaker 2: to you know, play any of those games, and you
Speaker 2: can do it with the flip of a switch. That's
Speaker 2: the real trouble here is that once these things are
Speaker 2: all so easily subject to control and easily eliminated or manipulated.
Speaker 2: Game over, because you'll never even be able to tell
Speaker 2: what the original was any longer, unless by some miracle
Speaker 2: you retain a couple of those scary things called physical books,
Speaker 2: you know, which I often keep insist on and et cetera, etc.
Speaker 2: But truth is, no matter how many people like me
Speaker 2: that are out there, it doesn't matter because the ebooks
Speaker 2: are prominent. There are people that aren't even bothering to
Speaker 2: publish physical books any longer because nobody buys them, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So you know, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 2: these things that I just spewed out. Does any of
Speaker 2: it make sense? Or do you think I'm like just
Speaker 2: out of my mind and being too worried about the
Speaker 2: coming social credit system from China that people are going
Speaker 2: to one day say is a great idea again? Or
Speaker 2: you think we should look to Black Mirror and really
Speaker 2: get worried about those robodogs and everything else, because that's
Speaker 2: the real scary part, the upcoming robo army and the transhumanism.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think is the key thing
Speaker 2: that's that's most terrifying or most troublesome, I should say,
Speaker 2: because I'm not going to go with fear in any direction.
Speaker 2: What is the most troublesome thing about this? And do
Speaker 2: you think everything that I just babbled about is madness
Speaker 2: or does it make sense to you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense. I could see them doing
Speaker 1: the black mirror metal head you know Skynet stuff if
Speaker 1: you track the advances now drone technology? Was it annual
Speaker 1: one of those like Palantiner like companies, they just deployed
Speaker 1: u it ghosts.
Speaker 3: It's called ghost X, I think.
Speaker 1: And then the other one bolts, which are these long
Speaker 1: range drones with huge payloads.
Speaker 3: They're super quiet.
Speaker 1: It's literally black mirror and so and then they can
Speaker 1: put them together into autonomous drones forms and neutralize anyone
Speaker 1: they like. So I see that coming as well. And
Speaker 1: you know one more story. Here in Mexico, we have
Speaker 1: what's known as the CORUP, which is like your unique
Speaker 1: each each person in Mexico, citizen and even foreigners, you
Speaker 1: need it's a unique public registry number. And to have
Speaker 1: a driver's license, to do banking, to open a business,
Speaker 1: you need to have one foreigner or citizen.
Speaker 3: And they said next they just announced next year.
Speaker 1: In Mexico, they're gonna want it's gonna be obligatory to.
Speaker 3: Give up your biometrics.
Speaker 1: Two get you know, your your to have your unique identifier.
Speaker 2: So they're going to integrate the biometrics into the universal
Speaker 2: ID because we have universal ID in the United States.
Speaker 1: Actually basically yeah, is like your national ID or social
Speaker 1: scurity or whatever. And again this is happening every country.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the other problems beyond what
Speaker 1: you mentioned in your rant was in Mexico, for example,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure other countries that could be similar.
Speaker 3: We've you know, you.
Speaker 1: Can't tell the difference where the government begins and where
Speaker 1: the organized crime or narco cartels end. They're basically one
Speaker 1: and the same. They're symbiotic. I've talked to Mexican policemen
Speaker 1: who say, you know, organized crime is in every level
Speaker 1: of the police, the military, the government, banking, you name it.
Speaker 1: And so if the biometrics are given to the government,
Speaker 1: the narco Mexican government, you can have bad guys now
Speaker 1: that have full access to all of your data and
Speaker 1: they can do what they want with it, full control.
Speaker 1: And as you mentioned earlier, again, I just spotify, I
Speaker 1: just got of notice from Spotify saying my content was
Speaker 1: dangerous one episode. And if anyone doesn't like what you're doing,
Speaker 1: they just press a button and you can't get on
Speaker 1: a plane, you can't drive a car, you can't buy food,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, total sci fi. This hope youah right?
Speaker 2: And that's the amazing thing is that once you integrate everything,
Speaker 2: you have the ability to literally shut down everything. And oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, what if something or someone because you know,
Speaker 2: I just assuming they're humans still in the equation. Well,
Speaker 2: the humans could make mistakes, but how about a machine
Speaker 2: that makes a mistake. You know, those things malfunction from
Speaker 2: time to time too, So how about that, you know,
Speaker 2: the imperfect machine maybe decides to deperson someone who doesn't
Speaker 2: deserve it. Then what do you do? How do you
Speaker 2: fight the machine? You know you can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like those films. One of my favorites
Speaker 1: is the movie Brazil from nineteen eighty five, which you're
Speaker 1: Robert de Niro as a minor role in, and it
Speaker 1: depicts that sort of world where you could be just
Speaker 1: even for those people that we know to say I've
Speaker 1: got nothing to hide, they can surveil me. Well, you
Speaker 1: know how many times will it happen where there's an
Speaker 1: error in the system, And hey, you had nothing to
Speaker 1: look at the old regimes of the twentieth century, you know,
Speaker 1: Soviet Union, whatever, there were plenty of.
Speaker 3: People who had nothing to hide.
Speaker 1: They were they followed the rules, and somehow.
Speaker 3: They ended up in the gulag.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, there's that, and there's also this other thing where,
Speaker 2: quite frankly, something that was acceptable a few years ago
Speaker 2: may no longer be acceptable today. And how about if
Speaker 2: the rules change and you are now stuck in a
Speaker 2: position where you've already crossed the line, but you did
Speaker 2: it before. Now all that's information is stored. Literally, let's
Speaker 2: just say the computer decides we need to play catch
Speaker 2: up here. Even though that wasn't illegal two years ago
Speaker 2: when you did it, it is now we're charging you,
Speaker 2: we're taking away your privileges because of it, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And those things can range anywhere from you know,
Speaker 2: the back and forth regarding cannabis here in this country,
Speaker 2: you know, to various other things where the laws might change,
Speaker 2: the rules might change, your punishment might come in and
Speaker 2: out kind of arbitrarily because you violated a rule and
Speaker 2: you didn't even know you were violating. See, that's what
Speaker 2: kills me, those people with the whole you know, I've
Speaker 2: got nothing to hide that I mean, And that's not new.
Speaker 2: That's something I heard many, many years ago when I
Speaker 2: brought up government surveillance and the Patriot Act and stuff
Speaker 2: like that in regards to, you know, having us all
Speaker 2: be monitored. You know, before Snowden came out, and people said, well,
Speaker 2: what do you care if they monitor you? You're not
Speaker 2: doing anything wrong. It's okay, No, it's really not. You know,
Speaker 2: I guess there are some people that think the only
Speaker 2: people that want privacy have to be criminals. And you know, weirdly,
Speaker 2: I was going to get into this concept of where
Speaker 2: does organized crime end and where does the government begin
Speaker 2: in Mexico, because unfortunately, that is the primary image that
Speaker 2: a lot of Americans have of Mexico, that it is
Speaker 2: nothing but a comple deletely failed narco state that is
Speaker 2: doing what emptying its jails, insane asylums, and other bad
Speaker 2: people into wear are border crossing and just dumping the
Speaker 2: most horrible of people in Mexico onto US in the
Speaker 2: United States. Now, that's more of a sentiment than something
Speaker 2: that can be backed up by you know, statistics or
Speaker 2: reality even here, But nonetheless, that is the impression a
Speaker 2: lot of people have, and thusly they believe that a
Speaker 2: majority of the population in Mexico is either desperately engaged
Speaker 2: in dealing with those people or are guess what, the
Speaker 2: people that are insane, are dangerous, are connected to the cartels,
Speaker 2: and not much else outside of that, and some people
Speaker 2: that want to take their jobs, you know, crossing the
Speaker 2: border in a constant, steady flow invading the United States.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not saying that it's not happening
Speaker 2: at all, but I am saying it's a lot more
Speaker 2: hyperbole than it is reality. But a lot of people
Speaker 2: would say that, and they would say it for a
Speaker 2: different reason that they don't know where organized crime ends
Speaker 2: and the government begins in Mexico. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: just take a look at the amount of politicians that
Speaker 2: have been assassinated in Mexico in the past couple of years,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of brutally obvious that organized crime
Speaker 2: clearly has a heavy, heavy handed influence all across the country. So,
Speaker 2: you know, what are we dealing with at our southern border?
Speaker 2: To begin with? What is your thoughts on that, because
Speaker 2: that is a major issue in this presidential selection, which
Speaker 2: I am going to get to you on in a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Mexican channels are being emptied. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe Venezuelan. It's you know, I call it a paradox
Speaker 1: where if you come to Mexico, by and large, you'll
Speaker 1: be fine. You know, I'm from Chicago, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you don't go to the South
Speaker 1: side of Chicago, writer or certain parts of Chicago. And
Speaker 1: you know, the funniest thing, I grew up on the
Speaker 1: North side of Chicago, and the only time I've ever
Speaker 1: stared down the barrel of a gun was on the
Speaker 1: North side of Chicago.
Speaker 3: I was a manager of the supermarket.
Speaker 1: I got held up with three guys, but a gun
Speaker 1: in my face and all that. But in Mexico, like,
Speaker 1: by and large, if you come and mind your own
Speaker 1: business and don't act like an obnoxious America, obnoxious American,
Speaker 1: you should you should be fine.
Speaker 3: I've been here over a decade.
Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, all around you, the stories
Speaker 1: that I hear, both in the papers and from people
Speaker 1: that I know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, there's people that I know. For example, you
Speaker 3: read the stories.
Speaker 1: A mayor in Mexico a few weeks ago had his
Speaker 1: head chopped off, literally his secretary shot three days before that.
Speaker 1: In the state where I am, a week ago they
Speaker 1: found five more decapitated heads and not capolical. Four taxi
Speaker 1: drivers were just taken out. A priest in Chapas was assassinated.
Speaker 1: Two public officials were just taken out this week. You know,
Speaker 1: you can go on and on, and then you know,
Speaker 1: fifty semi trucks on a daily basis in Mexico, you know,
Speaker 1: semi trucks from America. You know that they bring together
Speaker 1: all the goods fifty a day, fifty are hijacked. There's
Speaker 1: you know, they had to send in six hundred National
Speaker 1: Guard troops to lime growers to protect the lime growers
Speaker 1: because cartels were extorting them. They were demanding, you know,
Speaker 1: pay us whatever, ten twenty thirty, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much percent, or we're going to kill you. And it's
Speaker 1: at some levels, it's just in some ways it becomes
Speaker 1: untenable because how do you have even a functioning economy
Speaker 1: if you're you know, you're paying tax to the government,
Speaker 1: and then the cartel.
Speaker 3: Comes to demand equivalent taxes.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, well, did you got to shut your business
Speaker 1: because it doesn't make sense to work anymore? And so
Speaker 1: but at the same time you can come and live normally.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is the thing I still don't understand.
Speaker 1: You know, It's kind of like the stuff is happening
Speaker 1: around you. But if you come here, if you go
Speaker 1: for vacation, largely you'll be left alone because it you know,
Speaker 1: they do fight amongst themselves or you know, they'll looks
Speaker 1: for certain businesses. And then the border issue, and there's
Speaker 1: also many Mexicans that are coming back from America to Mexico,
Speaker 1: you know, so this whole idea of everyone's flaying to us, No,
Speaker 1: there's actually an increasing number of Mexicans who were born
Speaker 1: in the US returning to Mexico or Mexicans who were
Speaker 1: in the US coming back. But this migration issue, I
Speaker 1: find this more again a globalist project. It's the replacement migration,
Speaker 1: and it's I think more of it is beyond Mexico.
Speaker 1: It's Latin Americans and the rest of the world. Because
Speaker 1: you're hearing stories about people, you know, tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of people from Turkey have come in through the southern border, Chinese, Russians, Africans, Swatha,
Speaker 1: I've met, you know, people from Al Salvador or in
Speaker 1: the US. One of my Uber drivers in the US
Speaker 1: last year was someone from Al Salvador who was illegally
Speaker 1: in the US and the person told me they used
Speaker 1: the coyotes. They're like, yeah, the coyote, I came into
Speaker 1: the US. I'm driving Uber. If they go back to
Speaker 1: visit family, they'll illegally hop back and forth, you know.
Speaker 1: And so it's not just Mexicans. And I think the
Speaker 1: goal again is to bring down America. See.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is that, you know, when you
Speaker 2: hear about people pouring into Germany, it's okay, they're taking
Speaker 2: down Germany by giving them a culture shock from you know, migrants,
Speaker 2: and they're taken down the United States by giving them
Speaker 2: a culture shock from migrants. What's weird though, still, is that,
Speaker 2: to my understanding, the majority of illegals still come in
Speaker 2: through other ports of injury outside of that southern border,
Speaker 2: and nobody talks about it. I mean not at all.
Speaker 2: The over state visas, the student visas, the people who
Speaker 2: come here on alleged vacations and just don't leave. There
Speaker 2: are tens of thousands of them constantly, and nobody discusses it.
Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing. I mean, how many people are
Speaker 2: coming in through Canada? Ask anybody. Nobody knows, all right.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you know, is that border better controlled? If
Speaker 2: it is, why not adapted to the south. No, it
Speaker 2: doesn't work, and it's very very strange. And it's still
Speaker 2: based on quite honestly, uh, the the the fear of
Speaker 2: the other. You know, it's still that in my mind,
Speaker 2: it's still based on you know, sorry to throw this
Speaker 2: term around, because again I'm not a liberal, so I
Speaker 2: don't like to throw this term around, but it is
Speaker 2: based on racism. It is based on a fear, and
Speaker 2: that's what it is. You know, the fear porn is
Speaker 2: the best selling product out there, you know, anyway, But
Speaker 2: it has gotten strange because that is one of.
Speaker 1: The primaries a story where you know, I think mass migration,
Speaker 1: illegal migration is bad for Europe.
Speaker 3: You know, no country should tolerate it.
Speaker 1: I'm as someone who's lived in many countries and been
Speaker 1: a foreign guest, I'm pro legal migration.
Speaker 3: We should make it easier for people to legally come
Speaker 3: out go.
Speaker 1: I just learned of a story of someone I know,
Speaker 1: an older Mexican who you know, many many decades ago.
Speaker 1: They were as a young man, this person was in
Speaker 1: the US. They had the chance to go study, you know,
Speaker 1: in California at university, and they had they had an
Speaker 1: experience that just made them disgusted where someone that they knew,
Speaker 1: another Mexican, the classmates, you know, troublemaker.
Speaker 3: But this person.
Speaker 1: Ended up dead, you know, was involved with some drugs
Speaker 1: and the cops killed them. And and and so this
Speaker 1: person that I know overheard the story that the cop
Speaker 1: when they found the dead Mexican, they're like, oh, unless
Speaker 1: you know Mexican.
Speaker 3: And just hearing that this this.
Speaker 1: Mexican said, I'm done with this country and left. You know,
Speaker 1: imagine how many people would kill to have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to be a young person legally stay in US and
Speaker 1: create a life.
Speaker 3: And he's like, now I'm going back to Mexico.
Speaker 1: This is country not for me, where you know, where
Speaker 1: the police are saying one one less Mexican, you know.
Speaker 1: And so there is this racism. I would say it's
Speaker 1: it's depends on the class of person. Also in the
Speaker 1: in the US, but you know, there's plenty of I
Speaker 1: grew up not really knowing so much or even thinking
Speaker 1: about race, and so I wouldn't want to generalize it
Speaker 1: is there, but I would just hope most Americans aren't
Speaker 1: aren't done with that, you know, well a.
Speaker 2: Lot of them say they're not, But you take note
Speaker 2: of who it is they're worried about and why, and
Speaker 2: the stories they're willing to believe without any sort of proof.
Speaker 2: You know, quite often the repetition sometimes like that whole
Speaker 2: thing with the Haitians, you know, allegedly eating cats and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, in Springfield, that story spread like wildfire with
Speaker 2: no actual proof, and then when people did present what
Speaker 2: they called proof, it was so bad that it was
Speaker 2: instantly easily debunkable. You know, this is a picture from Springfield. Well,
Speaker 2: that's funny because all the license plates in that parking
Speaker 2: lot are from the foreign country. They're not US based part.
Speaker 2: You know, that's not the license plates you would see
Speaker 2: in Ohio. What are you doing? You know, it was
Speaker 2: the weirdest stuff I saw. And so again, the willingness
Speaker 2: to instantly embrace some of these things I think is
Speaker 2: based on it, and it is often a little quieter
Speaker 2: than it used to be when it comes right down
Speaker 2: to it, you know, not every everybody knows. Don't you know,
Speaker 2: call racial names out and don't instantly identify your biggest
Speaker 2: problem being that I think somebody's darker, they're from somewhere else. Uh,
Speaker 2: don't say that instantly. But if you take a look
Speaker 2: at how they're reacting and what it is they're willing
Speaker 2: to believe without any sort of proof, you kind of
Speaker 2: get a hint where their mindset is, you know. So,
Speaker 2: but it is a mixed bag, and I think that
Speaker 2: is something that needs to be recognized as well. You're right,
Speaker 2: so going on with the presidential thing, and I want
Speaker 2: to kind of close on this because I know you're
Speaker 2: not paying that much attention to it, but you do
Speaker 2: realize that all the things you're worried about are going
Speaker 2: to come into play one way or another depending on
Speaker 2: which regime steps forward. Here coming up real soon, and
Speaker 2: it's going to be different. But I don't see a
Speaker 2: good outcome. If you're worried about the technocracy, if you're
Speaker 2: worried about the rise of totalitarian you know, thought processes.
Speaker 2: I think you've got two different brands of totalitarianism running
Speaker 2: against each other. That's the way I feel about it,
Speaker 2: and it's not a very popular view. But what I
Speaker 2: found interesting this week was the interesting packs that are
Speaker 2: out there running commercials. Now, you know about commercials, and
Speaker 2: you know what robo calls.
Speaker 1: Are and all that, Right, I think when one party
Speaker 1: calls you to push to get you to vote no
Speaker 1: for them, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Sort of like, you know, a pre recorded message that
Speaker 2: calls people up and then you listen to their message
Speaker 2: and it's you know, political or social based or go
Speaker 2: out and vote for this proposition whatever. And they have
Speaker 2: machines that do this, or the U STAB machines. Now,
Speaker 2: there's probably some sort of computer program that you know,
Speaker 2: you get a ton of phone numbers, you feed it
Speaker 2: in and a computer will make those calls all day,
Speaker 2: so you don't even have to hire a person, right,
Speaker 2: But what I found interesting is that these robo calls
Speaker 2: and of course campaign commercials and everything rise up and
Speaker 2: you know, they distribute things like Trump and his garbage
Speaker 2: trucks branded garbage truck today, stuff like that, and that's
Speaker 2: all part of the game, I know that. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, there's also these really interesting people that
Speaker 2: get involved with robo calls, and there's always suspect crap
Speaker 2: that goes on regarding this. Right. So what we discovered,
Speaker 2: you know, just in recent days, is that there's a
Speaker 2: GOP based right which means it's you know, Trump's party.
Speaker 2: There's a GOP based you know, group which claims to
Speaker 2: be some other under some other name, and I forget
Speaker 2: the name of it, but we're gonna find it out
Speaker 2: in just second, because I'm gonna play an audio clip
Speaker 2: that's out there, and of course they're bashing Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: and being in support of Trump and also telling you
Speaker 2: that since you know, Bobby Kennedy decided to you know,
Speaker 2: suspend his run for the White House, he's joined the
Speaker 2: Trump team. So if you're a Kennedy guy, you should
Speaker 2: join the Trump team too, if you like Kennedy. Right,
Speaker 2: it's doing all that, But then they have another interesting
Speaker 2: thing out there, and I'm gonna play it and you'll
Speaker 2: be able to hear it too, regarding a third party
Speaker 2: candidate who I'm not sure if she's still running or not,
Speaker 2: but let's take a listen to it. And this is
Speaker 2: again it's the same pack that is pro Trump, anti Harris,
Speaker 2: that is running this as a robo call in battleground
Speaker 2: states right.
Speaker 5: Now, Kamala Harris will never stop the genocide in Gaza.
Speaker 5: Even though Netanyahu said Israel will destroy Gaza and turn
Speaker 5: them into rubble. Kamala Harris said she is unwavering in
Speaker 5: her support of Israel and will never change even campaigning
Speaker 5: with the Chenese. Do not vote for Kamala Harris. You
Speaker 5: have a better choice Jill Stein for president. She will
Speaker 5: stand up to Israel, demand a ceasefire and the military aid,
Speaker 5: and fight for the greater good. If you care about
Speaker 5: Palestinian lives, vote Jill Stein for President on or before
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Speaker 5: any candidate.
Speaker 2: Really interesting here? This is Jennifer with Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to back that up. But what's really interesting here is
Speaker 2: that they're pro Palestine, and you know, hey, look somebody's
Speaker 2: got to push back against Israel. Now, anybody who knows
Speaker 2: the GOP platform and Trump's own statements knows that if
Speaker 2: you're on that side of the equation, you're a supporter
Speaker 2: of the state nation state of Israel. You know, Trump
Speaker 2: moved the embassy, the whole bit, right, You're supposed to
Speaker 2: be in support of them absolutely, And meanwhile, one of
Speaker 2: their pro packs is telling you, hey, look, you want
Speaker 2: to push back against Israel, don't vote for Harris. I
Speaker 2: see that part of it, But they want you to
Speaker 2: actually vote for Jill Stein your values.
Speaker 5: There is only one candidate for president who will fight
Speaker 5: for our planet, support of real Green New Deal, and banfracking.
Speaker 5: And it's not Kamala Harris, it's Jill Stein. Well, Kamala
Speaker 5: has flip flopped on fracking, turned her back on the climate,
Speaker 5: and openly opposes policies that would protect the climate. Wisconsin
Speaker 5: families have suffered, even our drinking water is now contaminated.
Speaker 5: If you agree that we need leadership will fight to
Speaker 5: protect our planet and end pollution in our lakes and rivers,
Speaker 5: please vote for Jill Stein on or before November fifth.
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Speaker 2: Or Okay, so you know in the end of it,
Speaker 2: by the way, I know, I cut it off. But
Speaker 2: he just basically says, hey, look, we're an independent pack.
Speaker 2: But I find it fascinating that they're literally telling you
Speaker 2: that if you support you know, the Green New Deal,
Speaker 2: a real Green New Deal, which nobody on the GOP
Speaker 2: side supports. If you support this kind of stuff and see,
Speaker 2: in other words, philosophically, you're not on our side. But
Speaker 2: also Kamala Harris isn't on your side either. If you
Speaker 2: agree with all this stuff, then you don't agree with Kamala.
Speaker 2: Vote for Jill Stein. They're literally trying to split the vote,
Speaker 2: the liberal vote, which I think is hilarious. And I
Speaker 2: know there's lots of ways that they do this overtly
Speaker 2: in their campaign commercials, in their imaging, and their social
Speaker 2: media campaigns, et cetera. You know, that's why there's a
Speaker 2: guy hired there to seize upon any comment that's made
Speaker 2: by whoever and to convolute things. You know, hey, look,
Speaker 2: these are the policies that you're gonna get with this
Speaker 2: one because XYZ and you end up with you know,
Speaker 2: Trump going to a McDonald's to make French fries. Did
Speaker 2: you see that one, by the way, Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2: was just curious that we happened to catch that. Trump
Speaker 2: with the French fries was pretty damn funny. But you know,
Speaker 2: then you get Trump with the garbage truck, et cetera,
Speaker 2: and Biden drooling on himself, and hey, she forgot to
Speaker 2: tell people he was drooling on himself. I know, I know,
Speaker 2: but you know, all these things happening, it's very, very
Speaker 2: weird to have a group come out and say, you know,
Speaker 2: you know all those things that you want to support
Speaker 2: because you believe in the liberal side, well, don't vote
Speaker 2: for a Kamala because she's not really liberal. They're literally
Speaker 2: giving free help to Jill Stein, which isn't going to
Speaker 2: be much help. But I mean, even if they can
Speaker 2: peel off a couple thousand votes, that could be significant
Speaker 2: in a place like well, one of those answers from
Speaker 2: one of those robo calls was designed for Wisconsin. The
Speaker 2: other one I think might have been Pennsylvania. But either way,
Speaker 2: they're pushing positions that they're pack, which is generally in
Speaker 2: support of Trump and his platform as it appears to be.
Speaker 2: They're opposed, you know. They're saying, if you're opposed to
Speaker 2: all these things that are actually in opposition to Trump,
Speaker 2: even though they support Trump, go vote for Jill Stein
Speaker 2: instead of Kamala Harris. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I've made that clear enough to everybody here. It's kind
Speaker 2: of funny and It's really weird to watch these contortions
Speaker 2: of philosophical and intellectual feats going on here while they're
Speaker 2: pushing this selection process. I mean, do you have any
Speaker 2: thoughts about this kind of thing where we're getting so
Speaker 2: weird it's hard to know really who the hell is saying, what,
Speaker 2: what each super pac actually represents, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you find any of this strange at
Speaker 2: all or unique for this time period, because to me,
Speaker 2: it seems like we've entered a new era. This is
Speaker 2: not all just business as usual, although they've kept business
Speaker 2: as usual. Well, we're going into a new era where literally,
Speaker 2: you know, calling people all kinds of weird names, including
Speaker 2: just calling them weird, literally calling other people garbage, using
Speaker 2: foul language directly to approach people. Indeed, even Trump coming
Speaker 2: out and saying directly that these people are destroying America
Speaker 2: and making children, you know, available to be trafficked, and
Speaker 2: I mean really statements that only maybe a few years
Speaker 2: ago might have been seen as oh my god, this
Speaker 2: is absolutely earth shattering, bizarre, completely outside the bounds of
Speaker 2: normal decency and political discourse. How dare they even say
Speaker 2: these things? It has all now become a massive sow
Speaker 2: ball of static. That's just making lots of noise and
Speaker 2: keeping people amped up, you know, if they're worried about
Speaker 2: boys participating in girls' sports, and if they're worried about
Speaker 2: this and that, and oh, by the way, Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: is being challenged pretty heartily apparently for his position as
Speaker 2: a senator in Texas by a guy who is really
Speaker 2: ringing out that fact that during a storm and everything
Speaker 2: frozen over and the power went out in his area,
Speaker 2: he went on vacation, something that should have been brought
Speaker 2: up many years ago and should be brought up all
Speaker 2: the time regarding how much he represents and suffers along
Speaker 2: with his constituents up in air quotes for those of
Speaker 2: you playing at home. You know, really we have entered
Speaker 2: a new time here regarding this political discourse, I think.
Speaker 2: But then again, maybe I'm just I've lost it. And
Speaker 2: the sad part is and the thing that I lament
Speaker 2: most is that even though I'm wishing and hoping that
Speaker 2: November fifth comes and goes and will be done with
Speaker 2: all of this, I think the handwringing, the complaints and
Speaker 2: the challenges to the selection, and these sore losers and
Speaker 2: sore winners are going to carry on this nonsense for
Speaker 2: many months afterwards, and we're going to get just more
Speaker 2: and more friction out of this. I don't know where
Speaker 2: it all ends. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what you just laid out speaks
Speaker 1: to what I said earlier. They want to make a
Speaker 1: joke of the American system to bring in technocracy. And
Speaker 1: you know when you mentioned like one reason I don't
Speaker 1: want to vote is I feel it's it's meaningless, Like
Speaker 1: I don't believe the you know, I think the alphabet
Speaker 1: agencies are running the show.
Speaker 3: And you know, we just had it was yesterday.
Speaker 1: Boxes of ballots were burning, and it's like someone is
Speaker 1: sabotaging this intentionally. I would always bet first on the
Speaker 1: security States and the alphabet agencies doing that, because you know,
Speaker 1: what would the solution be in the technocratic system. It
Speaker 1: would be blockchain digital vote with your app that can
Speaker 1: be verified. Let's let's not do the mail in ballast,
Speaker 1: but people are burning them, illegals are being counted, and
Speaker 1: so let's do the blockchain model. And then even with
Speaker 1: that system, how can you tell.
Speaker 3: What they're doing?
Speaker 1: You know, some years back, I interviewed doctor Robert Epstein,
Speaker 1: who's who's he does amazing work and he's he's tracking,
Speaker 1: he's got the proof. He shows how big Tech and
Speaker 1: the Pentagon can sway.
Speaker 3: The vote any which way they like.
Speaker 1: And his work was so powerful that he even you know,
Speaker 1: his wife was mysteriously died in the car crash months
Speaker 1: after Attorney generals warned him about him dying in a
Speaker 1: car crash, and he says, hey, it's possible that the
Speaker 1: Google and the government took out my wife. And again,
Speaker 1: if they can basically put whoever they want into power,
Speaker 1: and you know, they if they want Kamala for whatever reasons,
Speaker 1: they can put her in. If they want Trump for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they can put him in. Some people are saying,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they would like Trump and because he
Speaker 1: can be the fault, that's when the economy's gonna collapse
Speaker 1: and then they can pin everything on you know, the
Speaker 1: Conservatives and Trump or you know, or they have six
Speaker 1: you know, was it Chuck the other the other Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer was, uh, got they've got six ways from someday
Speaker 1: to deal with you the other Chuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's really bad because that guy wow, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: years ago, there was a guy who called him Chuck
Speaker 2: E Cheese Schubert on the radio, and I used to
Speaker 2: laugh at that because he does remind me of a rat.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, just his appearance. He kind of has
Speaker 2: a rat face. But anyway, sorry, look, I get it,
Speaker 2: and I get all that. But what's amazing to me
Speaker 2: is I'm probably the only guy. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm not happy about Trump. And I've always said I
Speaker 2: got a unique opinion about this guy. I never liked
Speaker 2: him to begin with, and I always felt that he
Speaker 2: was a disaster and I think he proved himself to
Speaker 2: be a disaster last time he was in But if
Speaker 2: you ask a Trump supporter, you put that past the
Speaker 2: Trump supporter, they will get all over you about how
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, the economy's worse, that's for sure, you
Speaker 2: know without him in office, but he wasn't the one
Speaker 2: making it good. One Two, this guy is not on
Speaker 2: our side. I mean, look, I lived in the New York,
Speaker 2: New Jersey area, so I was familiar with this guy
Speaker 2: Shenanigan's long before he ran for president, and most of
Speaker 2: the country has gotten to know him. But they have
Speaker 2: really cherry picked and decided of which parts they really
Speaker 2: like and which parts they don't, and anything that he
Speaker 2: even rubs them the wrong way, literally goes against their
Speaker 2: own beliefs. They twist back around into something else and
Speaker 2: make it so somehow it's acceptable. It's not really what
Speaker 2: he meant, it's you know, et cetera, et cetera, it's
Speaker 2: one hundred other things except the blatant nonsense that it
Speaker 2: actually is. So no matter what the excuse will be made,
Speaker 2: the twist will be done. And I think this guy's perfect,
Speaker 2: not because he's going to destroy the economy, but because
Speaker 2: they're going to be really really passionate supporters who are
Speaker 2: going to celebrate everything he does, no matter what the
Speaker 2: real result is. And that's the way it's gonna go.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be applause and cheers. No matter how much
Speaker 2: things are destroyed, how many people are hurt, it'll all
Speaker 2: be blamed on somebody else. Anyway. Why is it that
Speaker 2: Trump is failing, Oh, that's because of the people resisting him. Still,
Speaker 2: you know, that's what it'll be, And that's where I
Speaker 2: think we're going. I honestly feel like he's still gonna
Speaker 2: be the projective winner. And you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what happens Kamala. I mean, we just look at her
Speaker 2: on the face of her, and we don't even go
Speaker 2: into hyperbole. What in the hell good is she?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, what has she She's been a prosecutor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not a record that I'm drilled with. And you know,
Speaker 2: somebody who was happily tossing people into prison for you know,
Speaker 2: cannabis crimes and making sure that parents went to jail
Speaker 2: because their kids didn't go to school. I'm really not
Speaker 2: all that enthused. And although you know, some people have
Speaker 2: tried to make the issue out of abortion and this
Speaker 2: and that, that's not a cut and dry issue either,
Speaker 2: you know. So I don't get it. I don't get
Speaker 2: what the reason to support her would be, no matter
Speaker 2: how you anyway you slice it. And honestly, he seems,
Speaker 2: you know, less and less sane as every day goes.
Speaker 2: Why But the people that support him, they hear something
Speaker 2: entirely different from what I hear, and they see something
Speaker 2: entirely different. So I don't know. I feel like he's
Speaker 2: still I still project him to be the winner. I
Speaker 2: will be surprised if he does not win. It'll be
Speaker 2: by a close margin. And whoever loses is going to
Speaker 2: cry foul. So you know, how long is this going
Speaker 2: to drag out? After November fifth? I guess we have
Speaker 2: to stay tuned, But I don't know. I just don't
Speaker 2: see improvements or an ending or a cessation to the problem.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to amp up the problem, and
Speaker 2: we're going to be more and more at each other's
Speaker 2: throats as the years go by. Here, I think this
Speaker 2: is the design. Let us destroy each other with vitriol,
Speaker 2: with you know, the cold Sibyl war, if you will,
Speaker 2: let us continue to do that until the day comes
Speaker 2: when it's time to actually collapse everything, which isn't as
Speaker 2: far off as some people think, but isn't right around
Speaker 2: the corner either. I think we got a whole lot
Speaker 2: more chaos to loose on the people, and a whole
Speaker 2: lot more confusion to sell along with the fear porn
Speaker 2: before it's really time to press the self destruct button.
Speaker 2: But then again, once you have all the technocratic elements
Speaker 2: in place perfectly well, that can be done really easily.
Speaker 2: And somebody like Elon Musk, who makes all of his
Speaker 2: money from the government, really that's really what makes his money, right,
Speaker 2: his government subsidies and such. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: where he's going to land, but he's already got his billions,
Speaker 2: So you know, what are you going to do? And
Speaker 2: do you have any thoughts about that? The million dollar
Speaker 2: gain way elon Musk joining Trump, I mean, what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts about that? When it comes to the context
Speaker 2: of the technocracy, And then I'll just get a word
Speaker 2: from you and we'll conclude this one.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've got a starlink right here behind me,
Speaker 1: so it's useful technology.
Speaker 3: It's a Plan B for me.
Speaker 1: But and I was gonna say that I think Trump,
Speaker 1: at least for me, he's less dislikable than you know
Speaker 1: him and some of those people that than other folks.
Speaker 1: But I would agree with you what you said earlier
Speaker 1: that he's not really on our side. And what else,
Speaker 1: I like the term that used Cold Civil War. I
Speaker 1: think he is projected to be the winner, but then
Speaker 1: they're saying they won't certify him even though if you won,
Speaker 1: and then it just leads us into this entire mess
Speaker 1: and and madness.
Speaker 3: Musk, I think he's just.
Speaker 1: The front man for again, the military industrial complex, you know,
Speaker 1: the SpaceX, the starlinks, Tesla's the humanoid robots. He's the
Speaker 1: Tony Stark and some ways, you know, Marvel iron Man
Speaker 1: was the predictive propaganda for what they were going to do. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you know, he's the darker man and he's just making
Speaker 1: the bitter pill sweet. You know, he's making the great
Speaker 1: Reset cool. He's like they use the good cop, bad cop,
Speaker 1: you know, Cloud Schwab bad Cop, Elon Musk good cop,
Speaker 1: and it's effectively, there's memes that have been made about this,
Speaker 1: and effectively Elon Musk is selling the same thing.
Speaker 3: That Klaud Schwab is.
Speaker 1: But because it's Elon Moss, Hey cool, he's a cool dude,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get that NEURALALNK brain trip, you know.
Speaker 3: And so that's how I see it.
Speaker 1: It's it's the for me, it's the I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remove emotion from all of this. A lot of people
Speaker 1: get caught up with emotion and human nature. You know,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, human nature is sinful. And people want
Speaker 1: somebody to worship. They want to idolize, idolatry, and that's
Speaker 1: why they want putin. They want to try they want
Speaker 1: you want an etal Musk to save us. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm sorry, but yeah, no, that's not They're
Speaker 1: not gonna They're not gonna save us.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: See, there is the problem altogether. Look, people are in
Speaker 2: search of saviors, and for some of them it is
Speaker 2: the government in general, and it may be the computer
Speaker 2: that's attached to it. In other people's minds, it is
Speaker 2: the imperfect instrument of the perfect God, and therefore God's representative,
Speaker 2: no matter how ungodly he is, like Trump, like Musk,
Speaker 2: et cetera. You know a guy who is buying and
Speaker 2: rebranding everything with an X. Think about it, SpaceX, twitters
Speaker 2: now X, and billions of dollars can fly all over
Speaker 2: the place. You can't even literally picture in your own
Speaker 2: mind a billion of almost anything. I mean, you might
Speaker 2: have seen a billion grains of sand at some point
Speaker 2: in your life, but other than that, you've never seen
Speaker 2: a billion of anything, especially not dollars. And most of
Speaker 2: us will never see anything like that in our lifetime.
Speaker 2: But here's the saddest part of it all. All these
Speaker 2: people out there and per saviors, they always forget to
Speaker 2: look in the mirror and to themselves for their own
Speaker 2: direction and their own divinely inspired choices that they can make, because,
Speaker 2: after all, if by virtue of your creation you are
Speaker 2: endowed with freedom in general as one of those you know,
Speaker 2: factory installed elements to your creature design. It's kind of
Speaker 2: interesting that people still look for a savior to lead them. Anyway,
Speaker 2: where can we find your substack and your podcast? Please
Speaker 2: one more time before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Geopoliticsnampar dot com is the HQ webs site and geopolitics
Speaker 1: Nampire dot substack dot com if people want to become
Speaker 1: either free subscribers there or paid subscribers.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 2: You do have a free subscriber thing over there. But
Speaker 2: obviously if you like what he had to say today,
Speaker 2: or you appreciate his programs, or you just think is
Speaker 2: you know a cool guy, go over there and support him.
Speaker 2: I would suggest it, because the only way we're going
Speaker 2: to have any independent media is with independent support, and
Speaker 2: that means guess who you see? Once again, the solution
Speaker 2: is you stop looking for saviors, but you can always
Speaker 2: hear someone else's voice and opinions. So thanks for joining me,
Speaker 2: and thank you guys for listening. After all, I am
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