1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,319 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:07,719 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we have some more news 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,720 on the congressional subpoena front, as we're now adding Leslie Groff, 4 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:19,679 Sarah Kellen, Leon Black, Doug Band, and Ted Waite, the 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,920 former boyfriend of Glenn Maxwell to the list. And of 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,839 course we talked about Katherine Rummler and Howard Lutnik previously, 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,520 so these are added on to that. And again I 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,399 don't expect much from Congress, but it'll be interesting at 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,840 least to see people get put under oath. And as 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,679 far as Sarah Kelln goes or Leslie Groff, I highly 11 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:46,719 doubt that either of them are going to put themselves 12 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:51,359 into legal jeopardy by incriminating themselves in front of Congress. 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,840 So I doubt that Leslie Groff and Sarah Kellen are 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,759 ever going to show up. Now, maybe if you subpoena 15 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:02,079 them and you try and compel them to do so, 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,519 but short of that asking them to come, okay, I guess, 17 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:10,359 but if you know anything about the case, you know 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,560 that both of them have a whole lot to lose, 19 00:01:13,359 --> 00:01:16,120 more to lose than just about anybody else in Jeffrey 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Epstein's whole circle. Considering the scope and the length of 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,599 time that they were both with Epstein, and according to 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,560 all the reports we've heard though, both of them were 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,159 key components in his criminal enterprise. So it's not like 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,000 those two were just you know, hanging around. They weren't 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,359 just invited to a party. And there's a reason that 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,719 the both of them were given protection under the NPA 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,280 because Epstein and his lawyers knew that they were dead 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,519 to rights. If the federal government pursued the case the 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,959 way they should have pursued the case, then everybody would 30 00:01:50,959 --> 00:01:54,280 have been charged. So that's why you see them get 31 00:01:54,319 --> 00:02:00,519 the non prosecution agreement as basically a payoff to remain quiet. Now, 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,840 of course there was a financial component all of that 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,640 as well, and both of them received a ton of 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,919 money from Jeffrey Epstein. So I have some doubts about 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,599 either of them showing up willingly. And if you want 36 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:14,879 to talk to the core of four, my guess is 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,599 you're going to have to compel them to be there 38 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:21,319 under subpoena. All right. So this article was published by 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,159 CBS News and the headline Bill Gates among seven asked 40 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:30,400 to testify before House Committee on possible Epstein ties. This 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,199 article was authored by Faris Tanyos. Microsoft co founder Bill 42 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Gates is among seven people who on Tuesday were asked 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,599 to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,639 regarding its ongoing investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,800 The six others are Leslie Groff, a former longtime executive 46 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,960 assistant to Epstein, Sarah Kellen, another former Epstein employee, Katherine 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Rumler for White House Council to former President Barack Obama, 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,400 Leon Black, co founder of Apollo Global Management, Doug Band, 49 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:12,240 a longtime personal aid and counselor to former President Bill Clinton, who, 50 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,560 along with his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,719 both testified separate lyon Epstein before the House Oversight Committee 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,759 last week. And tech billionaire Ted Waite, a former boyfriend 53 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,840 of Epstein, associate, co conspirator, all around scusbag, fellow child abuser, 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,840 and bipeteral serpent. You mean Glenn Maxwell, who attended Chelsea 55 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Clinton's twenty ten wedding as a guest of Maxwell. And 56 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,680 you notice they say here that Maxwell wasn't the plus one. 57 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Ted Waite was in the seven letters House Oversight Committee 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Chair James Comer writes that the committee believes the recipients 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,080 have information that will assist in its investigation. Comer explains 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,159 that the committee is reviewing the alleged mismanagement of the 61 00:03:57,159 --> 00:04:01,520 federal government's investigation into Epstein and mac ways, in which 62 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Epstein and Maxwell sought to curry favor an exercise influence 63 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,560 to protect their legal activities and potential violations of ethics 64 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,520 rules related to elected officials. Notice it doesn't talk about 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 how the DOJ needs to be overseen or how there 66 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,800 needs to be a look at the FBI. Right, No, no, no, 67 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,839 can't have that. That's what they're trying to protect. They 68 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,439 got to make sure the institutions keep on humming, even 69 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,439 if the institutions are completely broke. The seven were given 70 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:35,439 testimony dates ranging from April sixteenth to June ninth. A 71 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:39,360 spokesperson for Gates indicated that he planned to testify before 72 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,959 the committee. Gates welcomes the opportunity to appear before the committee, 73 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,360 the spokesperson told CBS News in a statement. While he 74 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:50,879 never witnessed or participated in any of Epstein's legal conduct, 75 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,079 he's looking forward to answering all the committee's questions to 76 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,120 support their important work. Oh what a hero, What a 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,120 white knight, what a savior. Give yourself a round of applause, 78 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:05,560 Bill Gates. Meanwhile, this idiot has been lying about his 79 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:08,600 relationship with Jeffrey Epstein for all these years, but all 80 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,079 of a sudden, he's just so sorry and he wants 81 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,319 to come clean. Jennifer Connolly, a spokesperson for Rumler, told 82 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:19,000 CBS News that Rumbler welcomes the opportunity to appear before 83 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,480 the committee. At the time she interacted with Jeffrey Epstein, 84 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,680 she was a practicing criminal defense attorney and shared a 85 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,399 client with him. The spokesperson said she has done nothing 86 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:32,560 wrong and had no knowledge of any ongoing criminal activity 87 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:36,519 on his part. Well, we talked about her earlier, so 88 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,839 we're just gonna keep it moving. It's very obvious that 89 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,319 Rumler was very much closer to Jeffrey Epstein than she 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,240 ever let on, and that she's been lying about her 91 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,720 relationship to him for all these years. An attorney for 92 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,759 Groff said she had no comment on the letter. Oh 93 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:58,279 I bet not. Like I said, I highly doubt that 94 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,920 Leslie Groff wants any to do with being under oath 95 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,199 when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, considering how she benefited 96 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,680 and how she grew her wealth on the back of 97 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,360 pain and suffering. I'd be pretty scaredify with her too, 98 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,480 And I think there are mountains of evidence, circumstantial and 99 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,959 otherwise that would easily lead to a grand jury indicting 100 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,639 Leslie Groff and Sarah Kelln. CBS News also reached out 101 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,720 to black Band and wait for a comment and is 102 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:35,759 attempting to contact Helen. None of the seven have been 103 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:40,560 criminally charged with wrongdoing and connection with Epstein. Nice little qualifier, 104 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,199 but do you really think that's the case. Do you 105 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,759 really think that none of them have been targeted. If 106 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:51,120 that's the case, then why is Leslie Groff and Sarah 107 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:55,920 Kelln Vickers protected under the NPA? And why to Judge 108 00:06:55,959 --> 00:07:00,439 Nathan call Sarah Kelln Vickers a co conspirator an open 109 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,439 court so you can save your qualifiers when you're talking 110 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,160 about Sarah kell and Vickers. The House request comes after 111 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:11,240 the Justice Department in December began the process of releasing 112 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,879 millions of files related to its decades long investigation into Epstein, 113 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,519 a wealthy financier pedophile who was accused of running an 114 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:24,759 extensive sex trafficking operation with Maxwell's aid. The tour believed 115 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:28,959 to have victimized dozens of underage girls and women, dozens 116 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,040 the Justice Department itself set over a thousand. Where do 117 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,720 they get these numbers from? YO? You don't have to 118 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:37,399 be an expert in what's going on in the case, 119 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,279 but you should at least have the very basics down right. 120 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:45,560 The Justice Department only released the files after Congress passed 121 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,680 a bill in November signed into law by President Trump 122 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,319 compelling it to do so. In two thousand and eight, 123 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:56,199 Epstein pleaded guilty in Florida to stay charges of soliciting 124 00:07:56,199 --> 00:07:59,879 prostitution in exchange for having a federal case against him 125 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,439 charges for soliciting prostitution, not soliciting prostitution from a child, right, 126 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,720 not abusing a child, just soliciting prostitution. YO, what's going 127 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:14,759 on with CBS? Is Barry Weiss writing all these articles? 128 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:18,480 Sure seems like it. A New York federal grand jury 129 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:22,000 indicted Epstein on child sex trafficking charges in July of 130 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,480 twenty nineteen, but he was found dead weeks later in 131 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:29,480 August twenty nineteen in a Manhattan jail. His cause of 132 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:33,639 death was ruled to suicide, no questions about it, not alleged, 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,559 not called, but ruled a suicide. So that's the end 134 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,879 of it. Maxwell was convicted in twenty twenty one of 135 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,759 federal sex trafficking charges and later sentenced to twenty years 136 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,000 in prison. The release files, however, have revealed the wealthy 137 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:52,960 financier's deep connection to the rich and powerful that persisted 138 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:58,519 well after his Florida conviction. Last week, Gates apologized to 139 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,440 the staff of his philanthrope Big Gates Foundation for his 140 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,879 ties to Epstein, which he said began in twenty eleven 141 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:10,840 and continued through twenty fourteen. Imagine knowing what Jeffrey Epstein 142 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:14,039 was and showing up to his house asking for money. Hey, 143 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,759 you know, hey, jeff, I was wondering if you wanted 144 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:18,840 to help me save the world. I know you abuse 145 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:21,399 kids and shit, but we're gonna overlook that you got 146 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,559 a couple mill for your boy, Like what, you don't 147 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,200 have anybody else you can go and get money from nobody, 148 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,840 not one single person. I'm pretty sure there's some rich 149 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:34,320 people out there that would love to help you out, 150 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:37,879 even if it's only for tax purposes. But Jeffrey Epstein 151 00:09:38,759 --> 00:09:43,600 Bill Gates, nobody believes you, buddy. According to audio of 152 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,480 the apology obtained by The Wall Street Journal, Gates told 153 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:49,480 staff he and Epstein shared a private jet together once 154 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,399 and spent time in Germany, France, New York, and Washington. Yeah, 155 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,799 you know, hardly knew each other. I fly on jets 156 00:09:57,799 --> 00:10:01,159 with people all the time who I don't know. I mean, 157 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:04,000 I'm flying commercial. But that's not the point, I guess. 158 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,440 Included in the trove of DOJ files where two emails 159 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,159 Epstein sent to himself on July eighteenth, twenty thirteen, containing 160 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:17,519 unverified allegations that Gates had extra marital sex with Russian 161 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:23,399 girls that resulted in sexually transmitted disease requiring antibiotic treatment, 162 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:29,399 and one email Epstein claimed Gates also sought surreptitiously to 163 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,600 give antibiotics to his then wife, Melinda Gates. Well, that's 164 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:40,080 weird because he did admit that he had those affairs, right, 165 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,639 So what do you mean alleged? Pro tip, it's not 166 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,320 alleged when it's proved to be a fact. The emails 167 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,080 appeared to have been written by Epstein on behalf of 168 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,720 an aggrieved employee of Gates who was resigning. Regarding those allegations, 169 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,679 agates spokesman told CBS News in January that the claims 170 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:04,799 are absolutely absurd and completely false. The only thing these 171 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:08,559 documents demonstrate is Epstein's frustration that he did not have 172 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,799 an ongoing relationship with Gates and the lengthy would go 173 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,840 to entrap and to fame them. At last week's town hall, 174 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,720 according to the Journal, Gates admitted that he did have affairs, 175 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,840 one with a Russian bridge player who he met at 176 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:26,080 bridge events and one with a Russian nuclear physicist who 177 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,279 I met through business activities. So he was lying, okay, 178 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,440 just like he's been lying about everything that has to 179 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,559 do with Jeffrey Epstein. And if you want to believe them, cool, 180 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,639 I don't care. Personally, I don't believe the guy at all. 181 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:45,159 Catherine Rumler wrote that she adored Epstein. Rumler served as 182 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,000 the White House counselor under Obama from twenty eleven to 183 00:11:49,159 --> 00:11:53,639 twenty fourteen, before joining the law firm Lathlam and Watkins 184 00:11:53,759 --> 00:11:57,960 in twenty fourteen and then Goleman Sachs in twenty twenty. 185 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:02,200 Rumler appeared several times in the Justice Department's release files, 186 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:08,200 including a December twenty fifteen email exchange in which he 187 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,559 wrote that she adored Epstein. How cute, What a great 188 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:20,399 cute couple helicopters volcanoes. In May of twenty fifteen, Epstein 189 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,200 asked Rumler if she could get filmmaker Woody Allen and 190 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:26,080 his wife sun Yee a tour of the White House, 191 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,320 which took place in December twenty fifteen, according to White 192 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,200 House records. Last month, Rumbler announced she would resign from 193 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,960 her role as top lawyer for Goldman Sachs in the 194 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,039 wake of the release files. Well, the least you could 195 00:12:40,039 --> 00:12:43,320 do imagine being one of her colleagues over at Goldman Sachs. 196 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,200 Pretty awkward conversation at the coffee machine. So, uh, Kathy, 197 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:53,840 get any chicken noodle soup from Uncle Jeffy Lately. The 198 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:57,360 DJ's documents show that Black, co founder of investment from 199 00:12:57,399 --> 00:13:00,840 Apollo Global Management, received advice from Epps on how to 200 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,200 keep a six year affair with a Russian woman from 201 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:09,039 going public. In one September twenty fifteen email, Epstein suggested 202 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:12,240 to Black that he hired former law enforcement officers to 203 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,440 approach the woman about signing a non disclosure agreement. Choose 204 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:19,960 met that a message delivery my choice too. Highly respected 205 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,799 former law enforcement agents fill in the blank, Immigration Scotland 206 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Yard SFO, who may knock on the door and present 207 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,759 the terms, Epstein wrote. In October of twenty fifteen, the 208 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,000 woman signed a non disclosure agreement with Black in which 209 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,000 he agreed to pay her one hundred thousand dollars monthly 210 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,879 for fifteen years, forgive a one million dollar loan, and 211 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,279 provide two million British pounds for her to obtain legal 212 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,480 status in the UK. Senate Finance Committee. Documents also showed 213 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,360 that Black paid Epstein one hundred and fifty eight million 214 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,200 for tax and estate planning services. Black stepped down as 215 00:13:58,279 --> 00:14:02,200 chairman and CEO of Apollo in twenty twenty one. A 216 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,639 law firm retained by Apollo's board to review Black's dealings 217 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:10,240 with Epstein cleared Black of any possible wrongdoing. Well, he's 218 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,080 been cleared Donald Trump's been cleared by Bill Clinton. Bill 219 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,759 Clinton's been cleared by Donald Trump. I guess we could 220 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:20,600 just pack it in. Huh, don need to have any subpoenas, 221 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:23,240 no need for an investigation. I mean, I don't know 222 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,600 why you're laughing. Have you checked the Dow? I mean 223 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,360 it's under fifty thousand, so that means we can talk 224 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,679 about Epstein again. Right, wasn't that the barometer that was 225 00:14:32,679 --> 00:14:37,159 set by Pam Bondy. Now, as far as the subpoenas look, 226 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,519 it's a good step, right, But I have my doubts 227 00:14:40,559 --> 00:14:44,000 about what we're gonna learn. Have you learned anything new 228 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,360 from any of these depositions yet? I know I haven't. 229 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:50,039 But with that said, we'll keep an open mind and 230 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,600 we'll see what happens. And when we have some concrete 231 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:55,600 dates for all these people, we'll get those added to 232 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:59,120 the catalog as well. All Right, everybody that's gonna do 233 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:01,600 it for this one. All the information that goes with 234 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,200 this episode can be found in the description box.