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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two, here is the big phone call.
Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The
Speaker 2: names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a
Speaker 2: detective sergeant. You're assigned to robbery detail. A jewelry salesman
Speaker 2: is slugged and robbed of twenty thousand dollars in precious stones.
Speaker 2: After months of investigation, you'll finally discover the man responsible
Speaker 2: for the hold up. You've got the evidence to prove
Speaker 2: him guilty.
Speaker 3: Your job bring him.
Speaker 4: In Dragnet the document a drama of an actual crime.
Speaker 4: For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los
Speaker 4: Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on
Speaker 4: the side of the law through an actual case transcribed
Speaker 4: from official police violence, from beginning to end, from crime
Speaker 4: to punishment. Dragnet is the story of your police force
Speaker 4: in action.
Speaker 5: Course.
Speaker 6: Thursday, July eighteenth was sultry in Los Angeles. We were
Speaker 6: working the day watch out of Robbery Detail. My partner's
Speaker 6: Ed Jacobs. The boss is Captain Dideon. My name is Friday.
Speaker 6: It was one thirty five pm when we got back
Speaker 6: to the City Hall, the interrogation room, is it not,
Speaker 6: mister Garvey, Yes, sir, you want to call a captain.
Speaker 6: They'd let him know where back.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'd still like to know what this is all about.
Speaker 7: Sorry and dragging me down here in the middle of
Speaker 7: the day. I've got an office system.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got back. Good you had interrogation room, right,
Speaker 3: let us check in you. Yeah, I'm back workd out time.
Speaker 7: Would you please explain what this is about? Why you
Speaker 7: brought me down here? We think you know what I don't.
Speaker 7: I haven't any idea. Take me away from my store
Speaker 7: on a busy day, you put a police guard on it,
Speaker 7: you insist on bringing me down here.
Speaker 6: What's it all about? Tell me you tell us, mister Garvey,
Speaker 6: tell you about what but jewel robbery nine months ago?
Speaker 8: That hold up? What hold up?
Speaker 5: My store hasn't been.
Speaker 6: Talking about your friend Thomas Ashley?
Speaker 5: Ashley, what about him?
Speaker 3: I think you remember it nine months ago, parking lot
Speaker 3: back of the building down on Poyt Street.
Speaker 7: Oh sure, some hold up man slugged him just to
Speaker 7: all his cases samples. I remember it now.
Speaker 3: For a time.
Speaker 5: Thief made a big haul, didn't.
Speaker 3: He unset down? It was twenty thousand dollars worth.
Speaker 5: I remember it now. I don't think Tom's gotten over it. Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was a jewelry salesman for the same company at
Speaker 7: the time, you know, same company Tom was working for him. Yeah,
Speaker 7: some of the big bosses thought Tom had a hand
Speaker 7: in it. I figured it was a put up job.
Speaker 7: Nothing was further from the truth. So sure I know Tom.
Speaker 7: He's a close friend of mine. He wouldn't be mixed
Speaker 7: up in a deal like that. Tom and I worked
Speaker 7: out of the same office for years. We've had him
Speaker 7: over the house for dinner. We've even been on vacations together.
Speaker 7: It's one of the most honest men I know. We're
Speaker 7: sure of all this, of course, I'm sure that isn't
Speaker 7: why you called me down here?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 5: You don't think Tom had anything to do with it robbery?
Speaker 8: Did you?
Speaker 5: You don't think he was in on it?
Speaker 3: You had nothing to do with it. I think you
Speaker 3: know that as well as we do.
Speaker 5: Then why am I here?
Speaker 7: There's nothing I can tell you about the hold up,
Speaker 7: only what I heard from Tom, what I read in
Speaker 7: the note.
Speaker 6: You can tell us a lot more, Garvey. We didn't
Speaker 6: bring here just past time a day.
Speaker 7: Tom was sluck and his sample cases stones were taken.
Speaker 7: That's all I can kill a liar, mister. You engineered
Speaker 7: the whole thing.
Speaker 6: We know it, and so to you.
Speaker 3: Was this some kind of a joke. If it is,
Speaker 3: I think it's in very long away from a joke, Garvey,
Speaker 3: you've planned the job, you got the loop. We can
Speaker 3: give you a chapter in verse. I really think you're serious?
Speaker 3: You think I robbed Tom.
Speaker 7: We're past thinking stage, Garvey. We already told you, we
Speaker 7: know you robbed him. Wait a minute. This thing is ridiculous.
Speaker 7: The whole idea is ridiculous. I don't know who gave
Speaker 7: you the so called information on me, but it's wrong.
Speaker 7: There's nothing further from the truth. Nobody gave us the information.
Speaker 7: We got it ourselves. You're really serious. I robbed Tom
Speaker 7: and you can prove I didn't.
Speaker 3: You're getting the idea.
Speaker 5: I know what's say. It's fantastic.
Speaker 7: I robbed my best friend Tom Ashley nine months ago.
Speaker 7: I have twenty thousand dollars worth of diamonds, and you
Speaker 7: can prove it, every bit of it. What about it?
Speaker 7: I think you're out of your mind. My name is
Speaker 7: George Garvey. You sure I'm the man you want? There
Speaker 7: couldn't be a mistake. No, there's no mistake. This seemed
Speaker 7: to be funny. If I didn't think you were serious,
Speaker 7: let me ask you just one question. Maybe that'll clear
Speaker 7: it up for you. Yeah, if I held up Tom Ashley.
Speaker 7: How is it he didn't recognize it?
Speaker 3: You know better than that, Garvey. You didn't hold up
Speaker 3: Tom Ashley yourself. You had someone to do it for you.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll cloak and dagger. I'm afraid this is getting
Speaker 5: a little too wild for me.
Speaker 8: Sergeant.
Speaker 5: Maybe you can waste time making ridiculous charges.
Speaker 8: I can.
Speaker 5: I'm going back to my store.
Speaker 3: Weak bluff mistress, not gonna do it.
Speaker 5: Excuse me?
Speaker 7: Are you sure you two men haven't been drink? Mister Garvey,
Speaker 7: I told you, and do you make my stool down? Look,
Speaker 7: you have no right to keep me here. These are
Speaker 7: ridiculous charges. You think I'm one of those cheap hoodlings
Speaker 7: you used to dealing.
Speaker 6: I'll come off at mister. You've got a five thousand
Speaker 6: dollars car and a forty thousand dollars home. That doesn't
Speaker 6: reach you a special treatment. You're a thief and you
Speaker 6: know it as well as we do. I don't have
Speaker 6: to take this from you. You haven't got much choice.
Speaker 6: We just finished five months leg work proving it, proving what. Alright,
Speaker 6: I sit down there. You engineered that hold up. We
Speaker 6: know who you got to do it, We know how
Speaker 6: it was carried out. We know how you're planned on
Speaker 6: disposing of the diamonds. We know who your fans was,
Speaker 6: we know what the split was, we know what you
Speaker 6: did with part of the money.
Speaker 7: We know how much you got left. Right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7: What can I say? I don't even know what you're
Speaker 7: talking about. Any way you want it, mister Garvey, maybe
Speaker 7: you'd like to tell me why I did always you
Speaker 7: know what better than we do, you know, I mean,
Speaker 7: and tell me you weren't making enough money at your
Speaker 7: job to suit yourself suit your wife either. It's pretty good,
Speaker 7: Maryland get a big kick out.
Speaker 6: Of that, all right, So we can wait it out
Speaker 6: as long as you want. We spent nine months on
Speaker 6: this already. In another few days, I'm going to make
Speaker 6: that much difference.
Speaker 7: Just as a matter of curiosity. How'd you first start
Speaker 7: off on this tangent? Whatever gave you the idea that
Speaker 7: I had anything.
Speaker 5: To do with the hold up?
Speaker 6: When you started to spend money a new car, new
Speaker 6: office for yourself, for a code for your wife, transferred
Speaker 6: your two children to that private school.
Speaker 7: And that makes a hold up man out of me,
Speaker 7: because I wanted to send my kids to a better school.
Speaker 3: Where the money come from. Can you explain that?
Speaker 5: Don't you think that's my business?
Speaker 3: Sergeant?
Speaker 5: Where I get my money? What'd I do with it?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 3: When you get it? Stealing?
Speaker 7: I'm afraid you're going just a little too far. You
Speaker 7: insist I'm a thief. I'm going to insist you prove it,
Speaker 7: all right.
Speaker 6: I have a look over here, mister Garvey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the reports on.
Speaker 6: The investigation reams of them. They cover everything from the
Speaker 6: time of the jewel robbery of the late yesterday. It's
Speaker 6: all right there, everything from the crime report to science statements.
Speaker 5: How would that concern me?
Speaker 3: Three quarters of the stuff concerned? You have a look
Speaker 3: for yourself.
Speaker 7: I still can't yet it's straightened my mind. What makes
Speaker 7: you think I had anything to do with that robbery?
Speaker 6: You know what this is, mister Garvey? This machine right here.
Speaker 5: No, I'm kind of recording apparatus.
Speaker 6: That's right, it's a tape recorder.
Speaker 7: You've been taking down this conversation, and why no not
Speaker 7: this one. We've been recording every conversation that took place
Speaker 7: in your office.
Speaker 5: For the last four months.
Speaker 8: Every word, what do you mean just.
Speaker 3: That, mister Garvey? Every time you talked on uphone every
Speaker 3: visitor you had. It's all down on tape, twenty five
Speaker 3: years of it.
Speaker 5: Interesting. Is that supposed to frighten you know?
Speaker 6: No, we don't care. If it's frightens you're not something
Speaker 6: else here. Yes, the reports on what you've been doing
Speaker 6: for the last four months, daily reports, every movement you made.
Speaker 6: That's so everywhere you went, everybody you talk to, everything
Speaker 6: you did want to hear sample.
Speaker 5: This must be some kind of a joke. That's the
Speaker 5: only explanation I can think of.
Speaker 6: May twelfth, Thursday. Sergeant's bitter Off and rapperty Those are
Speaker 6: the two officers who were tailing you at the time.
Speaker 6: You checked in at your new office at nine thirty
Speaker 6: eight am. At ten oh three am, you had a
Speaker 6: visitor at Kenneth Tyson. You talked to him in your office,
Speaker 6: conversations recorded. Tyson left at ten eighteen am. At ten
Speaker 6: thirty two am, you left your office.
Speaker 7: If you're trying to impress me, I'm afraid it isn't
Speaker 7: working out very well. You care for a cecarectulary? No thanks,
Speaker 7: I have my own. I've wasted enough time. Exactly what's
Speaker 7: the point of all.
Speaker 3: It pretty simple? You're responsible for a robbery you can prove,
Speaker 3: but we're giving you the chance to make statement.
Speaker 7: It's nonsense, isn't of course, people following me checking everything
Speaker 7: I do, where I spend my money, where I send
Speaker 7: my kids to school.
Speaker 5: What's it all about? It doesn't make any sense, all.
Speaker 7: Right, christer Garvey. We've said it before. We can wait
Speaker 7: it out as long as you want. Look, let's get
Speaker 7: this thing straight. Let's go back to the beginning and
Speaker 7: take it step by step.
Speaker 6: That's fine.
Speaker 5: The whole up was last fall, but sometime in October.
Speaker 3: October seventh, Monday twenty in the afternoon.
Speaker 7: All right, now, just what am I supposed to have done?
Speaker 7: None of your vague references about a new coach for
Speaker 7: my wife or where I send my kids to school.
Speaker 7: Let's have some facts yo.
Speaker 6: All right, mister Garvin. You went to work as a
Speaker 6: jewelry salesman for the company ten years ago. Your friend
Speaker 6: Tom Ashley, the victims, started the same year. The two
Speaker 6: of you have been pretty close friends.
Speaker 8: That's right.
Speaker 6: I told you that I will skip the rest of
Speaker 6: your background for now. Two weeks before the robbery, on
Speaker 6: September twenty fourth, we had a meeting with Kenneth Tyson.
Speaker 6: You met in the cafeteria on South Broadway. Tyson's nineteen
Speaker 6: years old, lives with an older sister. He works in
Speaker 6: the Gas States Olympic Boulevard, has done some work.
Speaker 8: We're careful.
Speaker 7: That's how you have to know him. Yes, I think
Speaker 7: I remember the boy. I don't know him well, though,
Speaker 7: I don't recall the meeting.
Speaker 6: No, you know the boy very well. The time of
Speaker 6: the meeting, you promised him a thousand dollars I could
Speaker 6: hold up your friend Tom actually did. Tyson agreed to it,
Speaker 6: and you briefed him on the plan. The following day,
Speaker 6: you gave him a gun thirty two caliber Smith and Wesson,
Speaker 6: serial number three six two seven four nine.
Speaker 5: Sense where did you get that in from?
Speaker 8: Tyson?
Speaker 5: Well, he's lying.
Speaker 7: Believe me if he told you that he's lying. Is
Speaker 7: he the one who robbed Tom October seventh? At your direction?
Speaker 6: He was in the parking lot behind the Hunter Crosswell Building.
Speaker 6: Tom actually came out to get in his car. He
Speaker 6: had his case of sample diamonds with him. Tyson held
Speaker 6: him up, slugged him, took the stones and got away.
Speaker 7: Of course, it's obvious Tyson's trying to say, I put
Speaker 7: him up to it. He's trying to get out of it.
Speaker 7: That pat not mister Garvey boy couldn't have carried off
Speaker 7: a hold up himself.
Speaker 3: Of course he could. It's obvious he's trying to cover up.
Speaker 3: There were six people in the company you worked for.
Speaker 3: We knew that on Mondays actually always took the case
Speaker 3: of sample diamonds long when he made his calls. Only
Speaker 3: on Monday. You were one of the people who knew that.
Speaker 5: I suppose you've considered the other five people and they were.
Speaker 3: All checked out at the time. They were all cleared
Speaker 3: you along with him.
Speaker 7: But I'm not clear anymore. Is that it this young
Speaker 7: hoodlum tyson? You're willing to take his word over mine.
Speaker 7: After the robbery, took the case of dimes to you.
Speaker 8: That was the next day.
Speaker 3: You paid him five hundred dollars and proms from the
Speaker 3: other five hundred when he got rid of the stones.
Speaker 6: Oh, I suppose I've gotten rid of them, or do
Speaker 6: I still have him?
Speaker 3: Two months after the hold up, you contacted a fence
Speaker 3: something in San Francisco. You drove up there and sold
Speaker 3: him some of the stones, and he broke him up
Speaker 3: and sold him. We know where he saw him to.
Speaker 3: We know what he got for him with this fence.
Speaker 3: He's supposed to be another good friend of mine.
Speaker 7: He's still doing business with him. His name is Fred Lawrence,
Speaker 7: who went on me. I don't know any Fred Lawrence.
Speaker 7: Can't even recall the name.
Speaker 6: Now, maybe this will help you, mister Garvey. Listen to
Speaker 6: him little teeth recorder. It's reel four in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll labeled there right on the.
Speaker 6: Back of the black Yeah, you're with.
Speaker 5: Well, what's all this about?
Speaker 6: Phone conversation, mister Garvey. One of the things were recorded
Speaker 6: from your office. I told you about it before. Let's
Speaker 6: see this one was on March eighteenth.
Speaker 7: I always thought wiretapping was against the law, or do
Speaker 7: you pay any attention to that?
Speaker 3: He didn't have your telephone line. We recorded everything. Come
Speaker 3: to take the grabb installed in your store and back
Speaker 3: in your office. They started recording the day you moved in,
Speaker 3: and that was the first to March, wasn't.
Speaker 5: I don't know why you're telling me. I can sue
Speaker 5: you for that.
Speaker 6: You know, I can sue you for your last dollar
Speaker 6: all working sermons? Right now? Is Fred Lawrence? You say
Speaker 6: you don't know what t Have you listened to this?
Speaker 6: This is recorded March eighteenth in your office? Okay, here
Speaker 6: we go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm right?
Speaker 6: Is the Lawrence?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Sure?
Speaker 3: Put money?
Speaker 6: Hi Fred?
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 8: Good? No? Are they fine?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 8: He at all Ie? No, he's all right.
Speaker 6: I believe he's a good kid. Nice alright? Where Oh,
Speaker 6: I know it might not be so good as you've
Speaker 6: seen down here?
Speaker 3: Only your clock?
Speaker 5: Are you thirty?
Speaker 8: Okay? Fine?
Speaker 6: Close a thirty?
Speaker 3: Is you like?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 6: Like mister Gary?
Speaker 3: You recognize that? How about it?
Speaker 7: Guard? I understand they can do clever things with tape
Speaker 7: recorders nowadays. There's a way of piecing words together.
Speaker 3: Is in there.
Speaker 7: They can record your voice and then fix the tape.
Speaker 7: Take a simple sentence and change the words around me
Speaker 7: in just the opposite cam.
Speaker 3: You examine the tape, if you liked it, didn't make
Speaker 3: a splice in or tell you'll find it the usual
Speaker 3: factory splice it just where it comes from the manufacturer.
Speaker 5: What difference does it make?
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 5: There's nothing criminal about that conversation, nothing at all.
Speaker 3: You told us a few minutes ago you didn't know
Speaker 3: Fred Lawrence. You never heard of him on that recording.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you know him pretty well.
Speaker 7: It's a fairly common name, wouldn't you say, must be
Speaker 7: quite a few Fred Lawrence's.
Speaker 5: I didn't happen to remember the name right off.
Speaker 6: How about Tyson? Tyson? He told us you didn't know
Speaker 6: him well at all. I don't well, I didn't sound
Speaker 6: that way on that tape, did it. If you were
Speaker 6: telling Lawrence that he was all right? You said, believe me,
Speaker 6: he's a good kid. Now what you said to How
Speaker 6: about it?
Speaker 8: Mass?
Speaker 6: How about?
Speaker 5: What is this some kind of a frame? What are
Speaker 5: you trying to make me say?
Speaker 3: We're not going to make you say anything, Garvey. We
Speaker 3: work robbery detail. That's a job robberies. They pay us
Speaker 3: to clean them up. I can pay you well, never mind,
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that. I meant I pay my taxes,
Speaker 3: I pay your salaries. I helped you anyway. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I have to be treated like that.
Speaker 6: No reason to make a big headache out of this
Speaker 6: for anybody, Garvey. Now you engineered a hold up. We
Speaker 6: can prove that. We're giving you a chance to make
Speaker 6: a statement. That's all we want here.
Speaker 7: I have got nothing to say, make a statement about
Speaker 7: what all you're going on is hearsay circumstantial evidence.
Speaker 5: You can't say I planned that, Rob.
Speaker 6: But do you admit you know Tyson?
Speaker 3: You know them? Well?
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 3: I admit nothing. What about the phone conversation?
Speaker 8: It's a fake.
Speaker 6: They're phoning those things up all the time. You know
Speaker 6: it as well as I do.
Speaker 3: You admitted you know Fred Lnes. Prove that from the recording?
Speaker 5: I admit nothing.
Speaker 6: You don't even know Tyson?
Speaker 3: Is that what you want to say?
Speaker 7: I know him, that's all. He worked on my car
Speaker 7: a couple of times. I don't know him well.
Speaker 6: All right, sir, to play another recording?
Speaker 7: So waste of time. I haven't got the whole day
Speaker 7: to spend here. I got to get back to my store.
Speaker 7: I've got a business to.
Speaker 6: Offer here we are April fits a lot of foolishness.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 7: How do I know you made those recordings? You could
Speaker 7: have gotten actors. Maybe you made them up yourselves. There
Speaker 7: weren't any dictographs. How do you make those sayings?
Speaker 3: There? Word dictographs? Mister Garvey? Remember before you moved into
Speaker 3: that new suite of offices, you had them redecorated. Yeah,
Speaker 3: or sound technicaltions from our crime lay about their working
Speaker 3: side by side of the painters and carpenters installed dictographs
Speaker 3: in your store from back in your office. They bug
Speaker 3: the entire.
Speaker 7: Place wire tapping. I'll bring this into court if it's
Speaker 7: the last thing I do.
Speaker 6: Now, we already told you, mister Garvey, it's not wire tapping.
Speaker 6: We didn't touch your phone lines.
Speaker 7: We didn't have to invasion of privacy and then take
Speaker 7: you into courtA.
Speaker 6: Well, let's listen to this recording, right, tariff, A few
Speaker 6: things clear up? What what are you trying to prove?
Speaker 3: Okay, junking?
Speaker 6: It's coming in here then missus apl fifth.
Speaker 8: Yeah? Mary?
Speaker 5: Oh, how well does he know him?
Speaker 8: Inn?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Okay, send him back?
Speaker 6: You got mine? I mister Gary again, how are your
Speaker 6: money sit out?
Speaker 8: Thanks?
Speaker 3: How you got anyway? Pretty good?
Speaker 6: Trying to get hold you last week. It is so
Speaker 6: hard to do, yount very much?
Speaker 3: Pretty good?
Speaker 6: They have again in time of year.
Speaker 5: You know what kids you do?
Speaker 6: You know, I don't wanna waste your time like you
Speaker 6: know how to Deal's working out though back east of
Speaker 6: me next month. I'd like to get the rest of
Speaker 6: my money if I couldn't. It's just like I told
Speaker 6: you the last time. You cannot sending yourself, nor the
Speaker 6: hope to hear it in a couple of days.
Speaker 3: And I's what.
Speaker 6: You told me before was a pretty heavy job. I
Speaker 6: could use the money. I mean, it wasn't jo heavy.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind that I got a com and.
Speaker 5: I think, of course you do. Can't there's no question there.
Speaker 6: It's just that I hadn't got it right now, believing
Speaker 6: you'd have it in a minute to reminded you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that was your agreement.
Speaker 6: Wasn't this five hundred to fourth job? Five hundred after
Speaker 6: and have a last October. That's a pretty good stretch.
Speaker 8: Now I can't.
Speaker 5: I told you the truth. I just haven't got it now.
Speaker 6: Why don't you drop back in a week or so?
Speaker 6: How about it, mister Garvey, what do you say to that?
Speaker 5: It's a ridiculous thats all. It's an obvious fake.
Speaker 3: You can look at the tape if you like inspected,
Speaker 3: if you can check every one of those twenty five reels.
Speaker 3: We'll play every one of them if.
Speaker 7: You want fakes, and they're bad ones and that now, look,
Speaker 7: I'll give you both a chance. Either you book me
Speaker 7: in on a charge or else release me. You try
Speaker 7: booking me in and I'll sue you for false arrest.
Speaker 7: I'll break you. I'll see you blind. I can promise
Speaker 7: you that, uh, release me and I'll get back to work.
Speaker 7: I'll forget all about it.
Speaker 8: Now you name it?
Speaker 6: Which one book me in or release me? Oh that's
Speaker 6: fair enough. You're gonna give us a choice.
Speaker 7: So on, bet it's fair. You could get in a
Speaker 7: lot of hot water. Now it's up to you which
Speaker 7: one You ran a bad bluff? Mister, we're booking you in.
Speaker 4: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police
Speaker 4: force and action.
Speaker 6: Thursday, three point fifty five pm, Ed Jacobs and I
Speaker 6: continued questioning the robbery suspect Ernest Garvey. Despite the evidence
Speaker 6: at hand, he still refused to admit any knowledge of
Speaker 6: the twenty thousand dollars jewel theft nine months before the
Speaker 6: questioning went on. Garvey's answers became more and more confused.
Speaker 6: We kept pressing, laying out the case against him step
Speaker 6: by step. Four pm. Four thirty We stayed.
Speaker 3: At it must have taken quite a bit of money,
Speaker 3: didn't Garvey? My wife knew for a coat newcofe of show.
Speaker 3: Where do you come from? Now?
Speaker 6: Look, there has to be an answer. Where'd that money
Speaker 6: come from?
Speaker 8: Simple?
Speaker 3: I borrowed it?
Speaker 8: Wherede.
Speaker 6: You borrow it, some of it from friends, some from
Speaker 6: the banks.
Speaker 5: I don't see how it concerns you.
Speaker 3: How much money did you borrow?
Speaker 5: Don't you think that's my business?
Speaker 6: Wasn't it about seven thousand dollars? Is that about right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: No, it was more. Well what's the difference, it's my business?
Speaker 7: You want to grab that folto in one of the
Speaker 7: dark brown that's it? Huh, complete financial file on you,
Speaker 7: mister Garvey. Took us quite a few weeks getting this together.
Speaker 5: In a lot of work.
Speaker 7: We must like snooping in other people's affairs, you know
Speaker 7: another especially it's pretty dull.
Speaker 6: There's a copy of your bank statement. It's a photostat.
Speaker 6: Doesn't make much sense.
Speaker 8: What do you mean?
Speaker 6: Well, we checked your income for that month outed to
Speaker 6: six hundred and twenty dollars and eighteen cents. Your bank
Speaker 6: statement here shows you made deposits totaling seven hundred and
Speaker 6: sixty dollars the same month. Now, how is that possible?
Speaker 7: For your information? I made a loan that month. That's
Speaker 7: probably some of the loan money I deposited. I quit
Speaker 7: my old job. That time I was going in business
Speaker 7: for myself. I needed the money to redecorate the new
Speaker 7: store in the office.
Speaker 8: It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the photostats your loan papers right here in loans
Speaker 3: for two thousand dollars for that February for three thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Another one in April too, that was for fifteen hundred
Speaker 3: different back again.
Speaker 8: It's right.
Speaker 5: Do we have to go over this line by line?
Speaker 6: In three months you made bank loans for six thousand,
Speaker 6: five hundred dollars. Besides that, in the same three months
Speaker 6: you earned a total of seventeen hundred and thirteen dollars
Speaker 6: and eighty eight cents. Together, that makes eight thousand, two
Speaker 6: hundred and thirteen dollars and eighty eight cents. What's the point?
Speaker 6: How is your bank statements, Garvey? You have five different
Speaker 6: savings accounts in five different banks. They show from February
Speaker 6: to April, the same three months you made deposits of
Speaker 6: more than eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 8: And how to you explain that?
Speaker 3: Jarby any explanation?
Speaker 7: It's almost five o'clock. Can I use the phone? I
Speaker 7: have to call my wife and let her know.
Speaker 6: All right, we'll have to listen in on the extension.
Speaker 5: Conversation is going to be minehead.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 6: Okay, down nine to get an outside line.
Speaker 3: What your staff did it examine? I'm garny, I see him.
Speaker 6: You want to give us an explanation. You only get
Speaker 6: eighty two hundred dollars? How could you bank eleven thousand?
Speaker 6: It had to come from somewhere, didn't It? Surely a
Speaker 6: personal matter, that's all.
Speaker 7: I borrowed three thousand from a brother of mine lives
Speaker 7: back in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: It already made three loans. What you have to borrow
Speaker 3: from your brother? You mind telling us?
Speaker 5: Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.
Speaker 6: It still doesn't balance the books. Mister Garvey, you earned
Speaker 6: and borrowed eighty two hundred dollars. You got another three
Speaker 6: thousand from your brother. You say that's eleven thousand, two hundred.
Speaker 6: You banked eleven thousand dollars. Yes, that's right. You always
Speaker 6: have to repeat I did leave you with two hundred dollars.
Speaker 6: You and your family lived for three months on two
Speaker 6: hundred dollars? Is not that can easily be a lot
Speaker 6: of people do it, yes, or but not your family.
Speaker 6: I'm getting sick and tired of this. You're trying to
Speaker 6: tell me you know my family better than I do.
Speaker 6: What they eat, what they spend, what it takes to
Speaker 6: support them.
Speaker 3: We've been on this thing for nine months, Garvey. We've
Speaker 3: put in a lot of you know your family pretty well.
Speaker 3: If you like, I'll tell you the last time he
Speaker 3: arda stake from the meat market, when you've paid your
Speaker 3: gas bill, a last time you wife bought a pair
Speaker 3: of shoes.
Speaker 7: I guess this is standard procedure for you. I'm threatening people,
Speaker 7: not threadning you, mister Garvey. We're giving you facts.
Speaker 6: There's another file here. It took us over a month
Speaker 6: to get this one together. Complete record of your expenses
Speaker 6: from February first covers February March, April.
Speaker 3: May June.
Speaker 5: I hope the police department has a good lawyer. Sergeant.
Speaker 5: You've got a.
Speaker 6: Fairwell say you and your I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 7: I hope the police department has a good lawyer. Sergeant.
Speaker 7: You've got fair warning. I'm going to sue you for
Speaker 7: your last dollar.
Speaker 6: And you say you and your family lived three months
Speaker 6: on two hundred dollars, that doesn't jibe with what we've
Speaker 6: got here.
Speaker 7: Take a look if you want to. It's size forgeries.
Speaker 7: It's all lies. I promise you photost out of the.
Speaker 6: Receipt for your wife's coat Garvey sixteen hundred and twelve
Speaker 6: dollars and thirty four cents. That includes the tax paid
Speaker 6: in full. Photo stat of the contract for your new
Speaker 6: car down payment.
Speaker 8: Two thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: Flicker bill for the big part of you throw in
Speaker 6: March March twentieth flicker bill, three hundred and eighty seven dollars.
Speaker 6: Catering bill, one hundred and ninety four full year's check
Speaker 6: for tuition, room and board for your kids at the
Speaker 6: private school you send them to. Eighteen hundred and sixty
Speaker 6: four dollars and seven cents. That's only the beginning. Garby
Speaker 6: comes to a lot more than two hundred dollars. Have
Speaker 6: you heard enough?
Speaker 5: I better try to get my wife again.
Speaker 6: I have to let her know mad new handle extension.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, go ahead downline to get outside. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 6: You know talking. I know I'm trying to get her stupid.
Speaker 6: We'll wait a couple of minutes. You get through.
Speaker 7: Gavin on the phone all day long, gab on the
Speaker 7: phone and play cards. It's else you ever done have.
Speaker 3: Some more figures here fight Garvey would be a good
Speaker 3: idea if you hear them built for two more parties
Speaker 3: that through last month's food builds, Like why do you
Speaker 3: have to keep pushing that stuff at me?
Speaker 7: So you've been sneaking around finding out about my personal affairs.
Speaker 7: That's supposed to be good police workers. This is the
Speaker 7: kind of rid off of robbery, Garvey. We're giving you
Speaker 7: a chance to make a statement. I why should I
Speaker 7: what for give you a statement? Have you twisted around
Speaker 7: incriminate me? I haven't had anything to do with this kid, Tyson.
Speaker 7: I met her trying.
Speaker 3: To call and well down one person.
Speaker 8: I know, I know you ton't. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 8: It's a matter.
Speaker 5: It's a matter with her stupid.
Speaker 8: She ought to know.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get.
Speaker 6: Us do some Garby, don't forget down line.
Speaker 8: M h.
Speaker 3: M hm. One more. I'll just play I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear it. I'll just play piece.
Speaker 6: I think you go to hear it's the same rail
Speaker 6: or just fand it over there to that other.
Speaker 3: Part, right, Tyson, mister Garvey, same place the office.
Speaker 6: M uh but you told me on the phone, you
Speaker 6: said you had the dough for me today.
Speaker 3: You said to Dad shut and.
Speaker 6: I had him annetic, And I didn't say that at all.
Speaker 6: I said maybe I'd have it for you. I didn't
Speaker 6: say definitely.
Speaker 5: Look, I can't give you what I haven't got.
Speaker 3: I want the five minute Darby I needed.
Speaker 6: I stuck my neck out on a Robbie Jell.
Speaker 1: I get five to light.
Speaker 3: All right, what do you say?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: She was never satisfied. She never couldn't be satisfied. Always more.
Speaker 6: She always had something. You mean, your wife, playing cards,
Speaker 6: gabbing on the phone, that's all. She just kept riding
Speaker 6: me day in day out. I wasn't making enough money.
Speaker 6: She didn't have any clothes. Kids ought to go to
Speaker 6: a better school. We ought to have no how so
Speaker 6: on and on.
Speaker 7: I had to go in business for myself, make money,
Speaker 7: lots of money, same thing all the time.
Speaker 5: Talk talk talk, There's only.
Speaker 8: So much you can take.
Speaker 6: You figured the robbery had solved. The problem is I didn't. Yes,
Speaker 6: So I would have tried anything just to shut her up,
Speaker 6: get her off my back for a while. I guess
Speaker 6: you got Tyson hunt the other man.
Speaker 5: Too, Fred Law.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They were picked up this afternoon launch at the Airport,
Speaker 3: Toisman and Show downtown, all three all at the same time.
Speaker 6: What about your wife, Garby? She know you planned this robbery?
Speaker 5: Why didn't tell her? I think she knows though, pretty
Speaker 5: sure she does.
Speaker 6: Maybe she'll be satisfied now allows even the money she
Speaker 6: had to have, it didn't even leave me enough to
Speaker 6: pay off had kid tyson, private school for the children,
Speaker 6: wall the wall, carpets in the house, new dish wash
Speaker 6: or new car.
Speaker 5: Everything she just had to have. M h, you wanna
Speaker 5: take me?
Speaker 3: Book me in.
Speaker 8: I don't care.
Speaker 6: We'll stop off down the hall.
Speaker 8: Take your statement. Sure, I don't care.
Speaker 6: Why let's go.
Speaker 5: I'll say just a minute it yeah, will you take
Speaker 5: a minute?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 8: M Yeah, that's what I'm figured.
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names
Speaker 2: were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 4: On November fourth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
Speaker 4: eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
Speaker 3: In a moment the results of that trial, Ernest W.
Speaker 4: Garvey and Kenneth Tyson were tried and convicted of first
Speaker 4: degree robbery one count and received sentences as prescribed by law.
Speaker 4: Fred Lawrence was tried and convicted of receiving stolen property
Speaker 4: one count first degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment from
Speaker 4: five years to life. Receiving stolen property as punishable by
Speaker 4: a prison term of.
Speaker 3: Not more than five years.
Speaker 4: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases
Speaker 4: from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of
Speaker 4: Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.
Speaker 4: Heard Tonight where Barney Phillips, Vic Perrin, and Eddie Firestone.
Speaker 4: Script by Jim Mosy, music by Walter Schumann, Hell Gibney.
Speaker 7: Speaking February eighteenth, Here the Gala City Service Silver Radio
Speaker 7: Jubilee on NBC.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, I've done the video version of this,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty firmly on the record that I don't
Speaker 1: think much of the TV version that aired in nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty two of this story. I think it was the
Speaker 1: weakest story we have from season one because it's kind
Speaker 1: of visually dull. It's it's a poor choice to adapt
Speaker 1: to television. It works better on the radio, and you
Speaker 1: do have the sort of claustrophobic feel you have of
Speaker 1: what's essentially a three hander. Now you do have a
Speaker 1: little bit of tape from Tyson and from the fence,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually pre recorded.
Speaker 1: You get this really sort of claustrophobic story of these
Speaker 1: characters talking and of our man realizing that the walls
Speaker 1: are closing in. So it's a more interesting story. It's
Speaker 1: not one of my favorites, to be honest, even over radio,
Speaker 1: because essentially it's about a guy who made a lot
Speaker 1: of dumb mistakes and because of these mistakes, he has
Speaker 1: cooked and his only tactic is to try to bluster
Speaker 1: his way through with you know, I'm going to sue you,
Speaker 1: And the tapes are all faked, but there is something
Speaker 1: real about this guy, particularly in the way at the
Speaker 1: end he doesn't really take personal responsibility, putting all the
Speaker 1: blame on his wife, including for him not paying off Tyson.
Speaker 1: It's all the things his wife demanded, so he didn't
Speaker 1: have money to pay off Tyson. Forgetting that he spent
Speaker 1: nearly the amount that he owed to Tyson on booze
Speaker 1: from the liquor store. No, it's his wife's fault that
Speaker 1: he didn't pay Tyson all. And truly, if Tyson had
Speaker 1: been paid off, he probably goes ahead and leaves town.
Speaker 1: And even if he doesn't. If Tyson were out of
Speaker 1: his life before the police got suspicious, this would have
Speaker 1: been a lot harder to prove, although you still do
Speaker 1: have that financial trail. But if I'm on a jury,
Speaker 1: the most damning piece of evidence are those phone calls
Speaker 1: that he had involving Tyson and where he had these
Speaker 1: conversations directly with Tyson. And that's on him, despite what
Speaker 1: he thinks. But now let's go ahead and thank our
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