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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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Welcome to the Paranormal Pendal Podcast, coming to you from

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the heart of Pendle Witch Country in the northwest of England.

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My name is Craig Bryant, author, the investigator and collector

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of stories. Join me as we take a journey into

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the paranormal, UFO sightings, cryptozoology and big cats. This is

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the Paranoral Pendal Podcast. So hello and welcome to episode

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fifty one of Paranormal Pandle, broadcasting to the Paranormal UK

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Radio Network at PAUK radio dot com. So welcome to

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my three guests on this particular podcast. I'm absolutely delighted

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to have the three guys from Northern Frights. We've got Chris,

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We've got Tom, and we've got Rachel. Hello, Hello, brilliant,

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Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, I mean

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it's it's it's great that we've got you on. I've

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been having a look at your Facebook page which has

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got some some really quite interesting investigations that you've you've

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done recently, which i'd love to get get on to

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talking about in a second, but I would like to

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start off with though, is how did you guys meet,

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because you're not all that close geographically, are you.

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Speaker 2: No, So we've all got a mutual interest in the

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Haunted Hotel in Chester, haven't we?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all sort of met through either being on the

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same investigations or on the overnight stays or like the

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recent fan page which has been up and running now,

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and there's a chat in there where we can all

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sort of chat and we sort of all know each other.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, so were you on sort of separate investigations

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and you just sort of met and decided to form

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a group? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I made a group with two of my other mates,

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but they've not sort of been a part of it recently,

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just being busy and everything. And then I put in

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the chat on my Haunted Hotel fan book page and

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Chris message saying he was interested, and then we met

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Rachel at another investigation probably was it check mill?

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Speaker 1: Well? The Haunted Hotel And for those people that don't

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know too much about it, because it's becoming quite a

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sort of famous place for people to go and investigate,

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isn't that whereabouts is it based? And what's the story

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behind it.

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Speaker 2: So it's Yo King's Head in Chester and Harry, the

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owner for many years, had an idea of cameras in

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every room, letting people star in their own paranormal investigations,

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and you know, they'd film it and release highlight reels.

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And I think that's the big attraction, is that it's

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accessible to everybody, and because everyone's so interested in joining in,

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this community kind of built, didn't it. So it's not

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just us three, there's there's many others that we've become

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friendly with. Like you mentioned the girls that to investigate,

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we met them through there as well, and others. So

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it's really nice. Everyone seems to get on and some

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good guys and yeah, we just do. We do enjoy

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investigating there. How many times you record we've done it?

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I must have done it at least ten times something

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like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you, Rachel?

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Speaker 4: Been a few times?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you find it? And I'm picking on

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you now, but how did you find it myself? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Brilliant. I mean I know Danny pretty well anyway, because

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I've been part of his other team, the Haunted Hunts,

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and it's brilliant. It's a brilliant idea, and yeah, it's

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very very popular, and obviously the USA one is getting

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Speaker 1: All right, so there's one over in the States. Then

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is it is it? Do you think it's going to

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to end up pretty much worldwidees.

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Speaker 1: Of translates into a sort of TV type investigation series,

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because obviously that's the that's the big thing, isn't it

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the minute all these different different TV series that are

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going on, you know, with with Goss investigations and such. So,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time that went so obviously not everything

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happens every time you go, just with all the paranormal is.

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other guests he was saying, you know, you can knock,

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you can speak, can make any noise you want, and

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nothing really much happened, even with the knock on the door.

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I was skeptical, you know, like, even if something is happening,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that.

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Speaker 3: The second and third time I went again, not much

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pollution with other guests obviously investigating as well. But the

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Speaker 3: But then we're in this one room, room six, and

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like there was bangs all over the room. I managed

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to record a DVP in the center of the room. Yeah,

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and then it was quiet again for the rest of

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the night. Apart from another room we were getting sort

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of knocks on command, sort of like intelligence, So can

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you knock twice if you know whatever? And then two

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little knocks straight after.

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Speaker 1: That's another weird answering back to what you were Yeah, yeah, sorry,

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can I ask you what DVP is just for those people?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a direct voice phenomena.

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Speaker 3: So you get your you get your EVPs, which your

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electronic voice from KO phenomena which you might not hear

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sort of like you know, your phone video camera or

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something like that. But yeah, DVP is like in the room,

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you actually hear it with your own ears.

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Speaker 1: So what what was that like? Then? What did it?

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of the rear. It was really weird.

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quite quite a sort of strange thing to hear.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, did you.

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Speaker 1: Manage to record it as all.

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subscription service as well, so I think they featured in.

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Speaker 2: One of them episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does anybody know what the history of this place?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Chester is quite a historical city. It's links

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right back to you know, the English Civil War. I

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think that building is from sixteen twenty two, isn't it.

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about moving water and energies and things like that, So

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you know, who knows who knows why? But for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sort of age in history, it's not surprising, really, Rachel.

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Speaker 4: Well, a few times that I've been there in the beginning,

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nothing much happened. It's very quiet. I mean, the odd

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device is going off, things like that. But I recently

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I had like three loud knocks in room six and

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we also heard what sounded like sex noises in the cellar. Yeah,

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and they actually caught that on their camera as well

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as mine. Interesting tell more, Well, to us it sounded

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like a child at first, but reviewing back, it sounded

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a bit naughty, right, And then room seven that's that's

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kicking up now as well. But when I went in there,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously with him in such an old,

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an old building, I mean, I presume it's always been

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an inn of some sort. You could certainly imagine going

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than salubrious activities going on in a in a place

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like that, So, I mean, who knows, you know that

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they could well have been. You know, it's put too

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far points on it. Working ladies, working girls. It's well

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that's quite interesting. Maybe I need to visit myself there

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you go for it, Chris, what about yourself? What I

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Speaker 2: Actually the first time I went there, they do nights

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at the weekend where you don't stay over, and there's

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Speaker 1: That was my first experience.

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Speaker 2: And we were in room five, which is one of

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the more active rooms there, and from out in the corridor,

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we were hearing footsteps, we were seeing shadows move under

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the door, and each time those happened, two of us

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were darting up as quick as we could to get

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in that corridor to see if there's anybody there, not

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a soul, not a single person around. In fact, that

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and see what happens. While we were there, we heard

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a massive scream in room five where we just come from.

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in room five a doll that inexplicably just throws itself

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off the shelf down again.

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Speaker 1: They did it.

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Speaker 2: It did it twice for us that night as well.

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I'm thinking, oh my god, this place is you know,

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a hotspot, and then I think the next three or

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four times I went there and nothing happened.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you actually see the doll sort of

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levitating off the.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's weird. It's caught on camera. It almost

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seems to twist itself on one of the times, rather

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than just going falling forward, it seems to twist before

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it fell. And interestingly, when they moved it, they moved

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it to another room the Haunted Museum, so they've got

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a lot of haunted artifacts in there, and when they

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moved it in there, it's it's never fallen again, has it.

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It's like Room five is known to have two child

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spirits that live in there, is it Billy and Emma.

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The theory goes that maybe one of them is tugging

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on it or something, you know, they recognize it or something,

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and when they moved it to another room, they never moved.

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Speaker 1: So interesting. Does anybody know the story behind those two children?

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Were they murdered there or something like that? Too well known?

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always find gossip children a little bit sad.

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Speaker 4: Mm hm.

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Speaker 1: And I've supposed to people who've had experience selves of

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that they're still there and still around, you know, and

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you think that's sad.

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Speaker 2: Who was it that caught in room five on a

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really sensitive microphone called a zoom H four they caught

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a child said mama, right, Oh yeah, that pulled at

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one of you guys, was it not?

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Speaker 2: No, it was a different different guests, different.

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Speaker 1: Guests, right, Well, it sounds like a really interesting place.

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And yeah, like I say, I've spotted to a few

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other guests on the podcast recently who've who've been there

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and had similar sort of experiences. I think it's interesting

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that it's not the sort of place where I mean,

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it's it's refreshing that that you say that you've been

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a few times and on most of the times you've

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been there, nothing's really happened. And I think that when

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when that's the case, when something does happen, it makes

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it more credible. Absolutely you know, rather than sort of

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going in and everything happening all at once as soon

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as you walk through the door, Because to me, that

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that just makes a little bit less sort of believable.

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I had all cunny Facebook page. You've done quite a

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lot of investigations recently. I'm going to put you on

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the spot and I'm going to mention a few that

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you've done if there's any others that you want to

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throw in while we're at it. That's absolutely great stock

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on Trent Museum. That was the first one that I

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looked at. You put a post on there, Rachel. You're

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smiling and nod in your head, So go on, I'll

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let you start with this one.

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Speaker 4: It's an amazing building. I really really enjoyed my night.

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I thought it was going to be over hyped and things,

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but we got some good confirmation there. I don't want

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to say too much because the full episode hasn't been

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edited yet, so I just kind of done look like

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a little teaser. Yea. So I did the first session

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episode and yeah, we had some very strange voices coming

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through on the spirit Box and it was like the

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same lady twice that came up saying let me go,

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and then she said it won't let me go, so

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like a panicky kind of kind of way. Yeah, we

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caught loads of loads of different things.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, isn't it that that would suggest then that

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she's been held will maybe will yeah, by maybe another spirit. Again.

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I've sports people who've investigated places where there's been very

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distinct spirits, and some of the spirits have been very

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scared of other spirits and they've they've sort of said

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that they were scared of them. So I always find

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that quite interesting. What did you guys think of it? Then? Tom?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't actually at this one. I wasn't able to

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make it, so it was just Chris and Rachel Rice

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go on there.

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Speaker 2: Chris, I was going to say, I don't want to

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say too much. Probably Rachel's probably thinking the same thing

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as me. But after reviewing the foot reach may have

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spotted something pretty big. But we like to make sure

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we do, you know, due diligence and make sure we

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can't debunk it before we actually say it. But potentially

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there's something big there and we're just waiting for confirmation

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from the people who weren't there, who have kindly offered

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to check cameras and things for us.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, watch this space, well I will. I will

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push any more on that. Then when when do you

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expect the footage to be on a YouTube channel? Any idea?

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Do you have a YouTube channel? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: We do, Yeah, we do. So there's a Northern Frights UK.

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We've got a bit of a backlog, haven't we. I

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think Tom's working on one for the hotel. I'm working

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on one at the moment for both Delabare and the

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Speaker 1: That we've been too recently. So soon can you talk

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about that or do you want to tell me about

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some that are already on there.

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Speaker 2: This is Tom's baby, so I'll let Tom take it away.

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Speaker 3: So I've got one that i'm brilly editing, which was

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an after life event at my Haunted hotel.

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Speaker 1: Happened a good while ago.

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Speaker 3: Now I've just not got around to sort of editing,

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been a bit busy and with life and stuff. But yeah,

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I've got hopefully trying and get it finished this weekend

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and then we'll have another one for maybe Sunday or

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the week after.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So can you tell me about any of your

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investigations then that are already sort of of up there

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that you can, yeah, talk about a little.

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Speaker 3: The first one I think we put on was Church Mill.

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Chris sort of organized that one, which was I don't

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know too much of the history about that building, to

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be honest, but it was an interesting building. We had

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a few bits go on and stuff. But it's a

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building in We're Wrexham, is that right, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, de yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's the first one where we all

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sort of met up together, meet Chris and Rachel and

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then form the team sort of from there.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's a mill. What sort of mill is it?

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Speaker 2: Can you remember what mill it was, Chris?

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Speaker 1: I do you know what?

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Speaker 2: I think it was like a cool mill or something

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like that, a flower mill, something along those lines.

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Speaker 1: But it goes back so far.

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Speaker 2: The lady that owns it, Tracy, she's still trying to

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find history on it because it goes back so far.

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She's got photos, she's got local books that talk about

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the place being a mill, a few stories, but there's

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still big holes in the history to that place. So

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she's still you know, digging and finding out what she can.

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The site used to have houses on there as well.

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You know, some of the photos or the drawings that

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got the place showed just how big and how important part.

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Speaker 1: Of the community it was at one time.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's been a working mill for quite

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some time, so it's now a showroom for I think

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they do beds and bedspreads, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: But there's some wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Historical like antiques in there, and she's slowly she's doing

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an interesting project. So basically she's taking old antiques and

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putting electronics in them. So you goo shunting equipment like

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your rempods, your motion centers, that sort of thing. She's

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putting them into actual antiques, so they become part of

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the building. You know, they don't stand out of place,

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so they're fully functional, but.

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Speaker 1: They look great. You know, they look really impressive. So

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what sort of equipment do you use? Then?

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Speaker 2: As a group, I'd say we prefer more scientific approach,

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just so that you can back it up. I am

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fully open minded to things like mediums. However, evenly got

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one person speaking out loud, and you have to trust

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that person to believe what they're saying. Similar with like

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Oiji boards, again I don't not believe in them, but

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again it could easily be manipulated by someone at that

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table at that time. So we prefer things like spirit boxes.

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if something activates a rempod, it's pretty concrete, or you

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can believe it. Your EMF detectors, that sort of thing.

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That those sort of things you can catch on camera.

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You can back it up, you can correlate it and

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say we've had two or three pieces of evidence there,

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and it's more scientific approach and you can back it

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up and show to other people rather than oh, I

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got this feeling, and again I'm fully open minded to it.

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You know, Rachel's quite sensitive.

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Speaker 1: Aren't you.

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Speaker 2: H but we'd still try and back it up with something,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna ask, actually, if any of

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you are more sensitive to things than others, I mean,

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how does that sort of manifest itself to your Rachel

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when you go into a place.

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Speaker 4: The feelings and being sensitive. I don't try to use

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psychic abilities on investigations because it kind of takes away

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that experience. So I don't tend to have that kind

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of feelings as much as I used to, but I

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do tend to hear a lot more than kind of say, oh,

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I'm picking up on a male energy. Things like that,

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like in at the at the Sorry the Museum, I

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thought I heard a whisper, but nobody else heard it

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and it was actually captured, and you know, things like that.

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So I'm quite sensitive to hearing what's around me.

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Speaker 1: And I was right next to Rachel.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Rachel heard it, And when we played the recordings

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back yet there, so it's backed up.

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Speaker 4: That I did hear something but nobody else heard it.

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So yeah, So I tend to not try to go

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to investigations and say, oh, I'm picking up on a

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male energy, because it kind of spoils it for everyone,

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you know what I mean, unless I can back it

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up like someone could say, actually, there is a male

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spirit called Robert here. You know, it's different. But I

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like to keep it low key because some people don't

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believe in it.

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Speaker 1: So, no, that's very true. I mean, do you sort

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of get those feelings?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's natural for everyone. Everyone's

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got that natural ability to sense and feel things within

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the room. I mean, it's energy at the end of

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the day, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just a case of whether you can

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tune into energy, isn't it. It's some people think are

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more more able to do that than others. So do

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you often get sort of audible phenomena? Do you hear

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a lot of stuff that other people don't in the past?

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Speaker 4: I have, Yes, I've heard whispers, growls, Yeah, I've heard

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a groun. Yeah, but I actually had two guests that

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heard it at the same time as well, so very

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very close.

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Speaker 1: Are they sort of animal growls or no?

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Speaker 4: It was like a man grunting, like a I'm not

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going to even try and press it.

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Speaker 1: All right, don't worry. I think we're not what you

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mean going back. We're going back to the Haunted pub again,

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aren't we?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, everyone's got that sensitive abilities.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just been able to tune into stuff, isn't it? Okay?

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So again, any other any other investigations that really made

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an impression on you? Then? Which are the ones that

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that you can talk about and that you really sort

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of remember as being, you know, particularly good ones?

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Speaker 2: I think mean me and Tom went to thirty Strive,

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didn't we us about that?

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Speaker 1: We talked.

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Speaker 2: We talk about like, you know, being sensitive and things

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like that. I'd never classed myself as sensitive. But when

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Tom and I first walked in that building, what did

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it feel like? Tom just felt dead heavy.

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Speaker 3: And then when we went into one of the rooms upstairs,

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so the first bedroom that you might sort of facing

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once she gets on top of the stairs. For some reason,

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every time I went into that room, I just felt

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sort of, I don't know, like really heavy atmosphere and

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I got like sort of tinglings down like my arms

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and my backs, like almost every time that I went

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into that room.

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Speaker 1: It was weird. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a strange building. Because I'm not one to

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get freaked out. I'm not want to panic and things

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like that. But that building that that I came close

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to being actually scared, do you know what I mean?

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There was just a feeling about the place and stairs,

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wasn't it. You know, around those stairs, I was positive

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I was going to catch something on there.

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Speaker 1: It was just But yeah, that place that that really delivered,

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didn't it.

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Speaker 2: And we can talk about that one because the episode

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is out there and we did get things happening. We

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did hear little voices, bangs, that sort of thing a

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lot on the spirit box that night through SSK methods,

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and that but actually the best captures came when we

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were reviewing the footage later, and we got some electronic voice.

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Speaker 1: For number through the video camera.

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Speaker 2: Full on voices and like breaths as well, like a

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breathing on the camera when the camera's on the side

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watching one of us.

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Speaker 1: So we're not anywhere near it, you can just hear a.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'd say, go and check out the video.

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Because there is an area called the smoking room, think

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it's called these days. Tom and I are in there.

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We hear a noise from behind us. We go to

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check it out, and as we kind of almost we

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don't move that far away, but you just hear a

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girl's voice.

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00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: Check it out. It's bizarre. It's bizarre. What did the

474
00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:57,039
voice say.

475
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,799
Speaker 2: I can't really tell, can we I don't know. It

476
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:02,279
sounds like a different language.

477
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:02,799
Speaker 1: It's weird.

478
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: It sounds like savage, didn't it sound like yeah.

479
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,279
Speaker 1: Like that something. Yeah, it was weird. It's weird.

480
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: But it sounds so female that I can't understand who

481
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:19,000
else it would be, because everybody else was upstairs.

482
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,039
Speaker 1: Me and Tom are on our own.

483
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:20,839
Speaker 2: I said.

484
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,279
Speaker 3: It sounds quite electronic as well, which is weird. But

485
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:25,119
there was definitely nothing plaining. At the time.

486
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: It was dead, silent, weird.

487
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing there. So did you did you stay there

488
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:37,640
all night? Yeah? We left Tom on your own, didn't we.

489
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: I was in the living room sleeping on my own

490
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000
and it was so weird. I woke up maybe like

491
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,119
four or five times. There was one point where it

492
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,519
felt like something brought me up by sitting on the sofa,

493
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,519
but I was half asleep. I could have, you know,

494
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,880
But yeah, I just remember waking up scared sort of

495
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,920
like four or five times throughout the night, and the morning.

496
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:04,599
Speaker 1: Offered it pretty well to actually get any sleep at all. Yeah,

497
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:06,839
I think I'll probably be set up all night, to

498
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,480
be honest with I mean, what's what's the what's the

499
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,640
history of that place? I mean there's obviously a lot

500
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,960
of Polticis activity goes on there as well.

501
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean there's actually a film about it.

502
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,599
Have you ever seen When the Lights Went Out? It's

503
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,079
very interesting. I mean, it's been dramatized for Hollywood, hasn't

504
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,319
it really over the top, But some of the fundamental

505
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,759
stories of the place are there.

506
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: So a family I think it was.

507
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: In the sixties or seventies moved in and experienced some

508
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,240
quite violent poltergeist activity I think was the girl dragged

509
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:45,720
up the stairs or something by what is believed to

510
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,000
be do they call it the dark Monk Black Monk?

511
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

512
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's actually photos of this month that have

513
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:58,440
been caught on the stairs and as an area in

514
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,279
that smoking room where some of the folk two is

515
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,319
the guests have caught are on the wall, and honestly

516
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,799
to see them, some of them are mind really really

517
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:08,640
impressive but horrible at the same time.

518
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

519
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: People people say it's it's dormant these days, but what

520
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,880
we experienced there, if that's it when it's dormant, I

521
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,559
would love to see it on an active night.

522
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:24,079
Speaker 1: I really would. Sorry, go on, sorry, Tom.

523
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,599
Speaker 3: Like I said, we were there actually to investigate for

524
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,279
the night, and they've got a clip.

525
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,319
Speaker 2: On the video where they.

526
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:35,519
Speaker 3: Hear something in the kitchen and on that same camera

527
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:39,160
that we mentioned that we were No, No, it was

528
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,839
a different one. It was like a static camera that

529
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,000
was just recording all night or when motion was detected

530
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,400
and they're screaming because they hear something in the in

531
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,720
the kitchen, like get the camera, get the camera and

532
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:55,920
then at the slight straight after, like a voice mimics

533
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,960
and something that give me the camera or something like that.

534
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: It's dead weird. Oh yeah, is that at the same

535
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,759
time as well? Wear another camera that we set up

536
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:04,920
in the living room. Doesn't it catch like a slight

537
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440
shadow moving past the door or something through the glass

538
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:09,599
shadow in the kitchen?

539
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,039
Speaker 4: Yeah?

540
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So it's a it's a great place. I'd

541
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,119
love to go back there sometime.

542
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a privately armed house? I believe

543
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200
it's now what is it? Is it the director of

544
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400
the film that bought it? I think he did, didn't he?

545
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:27,440
And now he kind of gets me.

546
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: He gets the next door neighbor to rent it out for.

547
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Him, doesn't he.

548
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:35,839
Speaker 2: She comes and lets you in. Yeah, so it's just

549
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,000
hired out to teams. But I think it's it's booked

550
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:39,880
up months in advance because it's that popular.

551
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's still sort of furnished, isn't it. In

552
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:49,200
it's sort of like seventies, sixties, seventies sort of furnishing.

553
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,960
So it's obviously as it was when when the family

554
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,880
just just left, I mean, did the family just just

555
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,319
pack up and leave? Was it? Was it that bad? Apparently,

556
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,200
I think so.

557
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: I think I think they got to the point. I

558
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,839
think at first they were adamant that they wanted to

559
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,400
remain there. They weren't going to be shoved out of

560
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,079
their own house.

561
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it got to.

562
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:09,319
Speaker 2: The point where that much was going on for their

563
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:12,279
own safety, they just had to get out. And I

564
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:15,039
think I believe when when the next family moved in,

565
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,759
it was nowhere near as bad was it?

566
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:20,279
Speaker 1: It had share to them field poltergeist to it doesn't

567
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:21,799
that really does? It really does?

568
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:25,519
Speaker 2: And both cases have like a young girl involved.

569
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:28,599
Speaker 1: Don't they ask about that? Yeah, because they're acting that

570
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:31,119
that's a lot of poltic guice activity is attached to

571
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,039
adolescent children, aren't they particularly adolescent females, although there have

572
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:40,319
been occasions where they'd been attached to adolescent boys as well.

573
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,799
I mean, I know that there's there's a very similar

574
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:49,799
one in Acarington. Sign of Acrington, whether it was a

575
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,759
council house, which was in the in the seventies and

576
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,640
the eighties, was was very similar. Family moved in and

577
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,240
there was an awful lot of poltergeist activity. Made the

578
00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:02,079
local news, made the local tea a news, local papers

579
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,440
and everything else. And eventually the family moved out and

580
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,799
I don't think anybody's ever moved in there since, and

581
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:10,599
it is just a lawn by the council and it

582
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,799
is well, it was empty for a long time. I

583
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,680
think something might actually be in there now. But it

584
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,079
was quite quite a sort of similar again, very similar

585
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:25,279
setup to both as Drive and the Mfield Paltergeist. It's

586
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,279
quite quite odd in that respect. It turns to be

587
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:31,039
the same sort of houses, don't they? Yeah?

588
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 2: Absolutely, In fact, we we investigated one recently, didn't we

589
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,640
that Rachu did one on the Murder House or the

590
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,480
Screaming House, didn't you for the Haunted And we went

591
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,279
to investigate there and we've got quite a bit of

592
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,039
activity there, didn't we as well?

593
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:51,599
Speaker 1: Whereabouts? Is that? Then? What? What's what's the story behind

594
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:51,880
that one?

595
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: Halford and Chester? So a young seventeen year old girl

596
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,920
named Brenda Evans, she was walking home, well, she was

597
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,920
walking to see her uncle. I think it was after work.

598
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,559
She worked in the post office. She must have been

599
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,559
kidnapped and murdered because they tried to find her and

600
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:22,119
they found her in a manhole basically strangled with their

601
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:26,680
own with their own tights. So yeah, that's the story

602
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,359
behind it.

603
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 1: And what sort of manifestations happened there then, Well, when

604
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,119
I went there, we didn't get a lot, but it

605
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,559
was a lot of spirit.

606
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: Box kind of activity. So I heard like a lady

607
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,920
or a young girl saying I'm here, which was quite weird.

608
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,359
And I don't know, we heard a couple of ruffles,

609
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,599
but it's a really kind of rough bungalow. It's very derelict,

610
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,880
so lots of animals could be in there, like rats,

611
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,680
mice or anything like that. So it's very very hard

612
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:10,920
to pinpoint little noises. But Chris had quite a lot

613
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,440
going on with his camera.

614
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, there was the night I went with another There

615
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:19,200
was Tom was with us, and there was another couple

616
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440
of people with us as well. We were all in

617
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,200
the living room and calling out spirit boxes on that

618
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:27,400
sort of thing. And I'm in the door door to

619
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,279
the living room back to the bedrooms, and there was

620
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:35,720
an almighty kind of loud scuffle from one of the bedrooms.

621
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:39,799
Had described it as somebody moving in there. Of course

622
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,359
terrified us, but I was straight in there with the

623
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,400
camera trying to, you know, see what it could be.

624
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,079
I didn't find any definite cause What there was though,

625
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,839
is one of the windows is smashed and there are

626
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,279
plastic bags in there, so it potentially could have been

627
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,759
blowing the bags. So I said, we always try and

628
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:02,279
debunk these things for it could have been. It didn't

629
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,279
sound like that. It sounded like somebody moving in there.

630
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:08,599
But you can't They can't say for definite, can you.

631
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,000
So I'd never go out and say yeah, it's It's

632
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,079
not worth saying it unless you can prove it for definite.

633
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,360
But we got some sounds, didn't we as well? Tom

634
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,000
on the on the cameras like on.

635
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: A zoom mic as well, didn't we Yeah, did you

636
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:25,440
say Birmingham or something like that?

637
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: Something like that?

638
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,199
Speaker 3: It was weird, like no one else was talking, or

639
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,639
maybe they were. I can't remember if we've cleaned it up,

640
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,000
but yeah, and there was just like a really sort

641
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,719
of out of place like man to say Birmingham a

642
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719
summer or I don't know, I can't really tell what

643
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,119
it says.

644
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: But that was weird. But we also got it when

645
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,639
when in one of the bedrooms, and it might have

646
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,599
been near where Rachel got I'm here.

647
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: We got it.

648
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,679
Speaker 2: We got it as well when we were just about

649
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,199
to walk into one of the bedrooms. I think you're

650
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,000
filming on your camera. Neither of us heard a thing

651
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,760
at the time, but there's quite clearly a voice there

652
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,719
saying I'm here, and we were calling out yeah.

653
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Things like that. You just can't explain. No, and that

654
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,079
what did you say? That was a girl's voice? That

655
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,840
was a female voice? That one the Birmingham I think

656
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,719
was a male voice, wasn't it. I take it this

657
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:23,599
this place isn't anywhere near Birmingham. Well, it's strange. I mean,

658
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:28,599
why why would why would why would the spirit say Birmingham.

659
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,079
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's audio paradolia. I think

660
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,760
we're hearing that, but it's actually something else we have

661
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,000
been trying to guess. But yeah, because it sounded on

662
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,360
was American as well?

663
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Was sorry, sorry twenty American listeners. I may have got few.

664
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:58,039
My apologies for the for the crappy accent. I thought

665
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:59,119
he's very good Rach.

666
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 4: As well. But it was a very weird e v

667
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,599
P that you caught there. But we will try and

668
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:09,760
set that out. What you're saying.

669
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:13,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I suppose the more you listen to it,

670
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,800
the more you your brain sort of mix things up,

671
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,840
doesn't it when you because you because you're trying to

672
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,800
you're trying to work out what it's saying, and and

673
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,800
and so you're sort of filling bits in, aren't you

674
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:30,239
You subconsciously to make it sound like something that you recognize,

675
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,719
which I suppose is why you think it's same Birmingham,

676
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,920
because it's been some quite quite sort of clause. Yeah, yeah,

677
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:46,119
well else could it be girl in now? Yeah?

678
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: I'm sure I did a good guess of what it said,

679
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:50,559
but I honestly can't remember. Now I'll have to have

680
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:51,119
a luck.

681
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: Look back through the footage. I mean, I mean, which, what,

682
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,360
what's what's the scariest place you've ever been to? What's

683
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,760
what's the one place that really sort of freak you out?

684
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,079
Is or have you not been sort of affected to

685
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,960
that extent? I mean, obviously East Drive sounds like it was.

686
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:15,119
It was pretty pretty close to your scariest experience.

687
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: One of the times where we got the really active

688
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,400
night of my own to hotel. I've been mostly other

689
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:27,159
signs with like a friend or one of my siblings,

690
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,119
but that one time I went on my own and

691
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,679
obviously slept in a room on my own.

692
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: I used to sleep all right, to be fair, but

693
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,320
getting to.

694
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,639
Speaker 3: Sleep was it was. It was a bit, you know,

695
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:38,519
a bit nerve wracking.

696
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: But it sounds like you could sleep through most things, Tom,

697
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,119
to be honest, by the places.

698
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: You've It's weird though, because when I sleep anyway, I

699
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:50,039
always just dream about the place that I'm at. So

700
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,400
at the Honted Hotel, I dream that I'm at the hotel,

701
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,159
or like East Drive, I dreamt that I was at

702
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:54,639
East Drive.

703
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: Again, it's weird. I don't know what that is.

704
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,199
Speaker 1: What about yourself, Chris, what's the what's the scariest pleasure

705
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:01,679
you've been to?

706
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: I would say on the whole thirtiest Drive is the

707
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,239
scariest place. However, one of the I would say scariest

708
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,719
but also most exciting moments have had is Church Mill.

709
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,559
The first time I went there, and I went in

710
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,920
the day before we did our actual proper investigation at

711
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,039
the nighttime. I went there with just a bit of equipment,

712
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,320
talking to Tracy there and she left me on my

713
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,440
own in the actual mill building, and I had a

714
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,840
H four zoom mic that picks up really low sounds,

715
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,519
So any kind of whispers or anything like that you

716
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:38,320
hear and I'm just coming down the stairs and I

717
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,519
thought I heard a voice, so I stopped turned. Then

718
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:44,719
all of a sudden, I heard a woman's voice going,

719
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,679
I'm ready, So I thought, what the heck was that?

720
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,280
So I thought Tracy's come back. Tracy hadn't come back.

721
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Tracy was in another building across the courtyard. She was

722
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,440
nowhere near the building, so I thought, maybe who was

723
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800
meeting me there that night, maybe she'd gone there. Nope,

724
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,599
it wasn't there. I was on my own in that

725
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,719
building and I heard a woman's voice, So that freaked

726
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,679
me out a bit. But also I don't know that.

727
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,840
The spidery senses got tingling. I was excited. I wanted

728
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,159
to hear it again, trying to have a conversation with it.

729
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,039
I was for the rest of that evening. I was

730
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,239
trying to find it again. I was calling out all

731
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,159
sorts of nothing. Where it came from and where it went.

732
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,320
I have no idea, but I heard it as clear

733
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:30,679
as though.

734
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:36,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that that was exciting and disconcerting the same.

735
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,639
It's one of those it's it's what you go there for.

736
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,559
Speaker 2: When it actually happens and you're on your own, it's

737
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,280
a little Yeah, the nerves get running out through the

738
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,320
adrelline gets pumping.

739
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was excited, pissed off that there was

740
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,519
nobody else there to witness it.

741
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: A little, a little, but at the same time it

742
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:01,199
backs up that it couldn't be anybody else talking you

743
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,719
know about yourself, Rachel.

744
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,559
Speaker 4: Well, I've been to so many places that are very,

745
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:16,480
very eerie, but I'm not easily scared. But I'll say

746
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:21,000
two places. Tat an old hall when Race the Doll

747
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:25,079
was there, creep the hell out of me because I've

748
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:28,920
never seen an item that's supposedly haunted before, and I

749
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,079
think that was coming out of that thing. Oh, it

750
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:35,159
was absolutely scary. He was pretty terrifying, to be honest.

751
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,800
Grace the Doll, Race the Dolls. She's actually at the

752
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,400
hotel now, Danny has moved her into room eight.

753
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: Right, this one that comes off the No, this is.

754
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,599
Speaker 4: A different one. She's actually cased in a box with

755
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:51,199
the cross and chains.

756
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,039
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the story. I've not heard about this,

757
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,599
So what's the story behind behind that and what happened.

758
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:01,599
Speaker 4: I think they bought the doll. I think it's just

759
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:04,159
like an ordinary doll that they used as a trigger.

760
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,760
Object in nan Cloyd de Dre and that's where the

761
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,960
attachments started with her, I believe, with a witch named Jeannette.

762
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,639
So they've had like a five or six year project

763
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:25,119
with the doll at Tattenhall Hall, I believe, And yeah,

764
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,679
she's she is something. A lot of voices have come

765
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,760
from that doll. And there's another doll called Willow. We

766
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,400
also heard her singing at tatten Hall and I was

767
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,519
actually in the room when it happened, and we were like,

768
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,960
who's singing? And we thought it was one of the

769
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,400
guests messing about and we were all just like looking

770
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,559
at each other, like what what's happened? And I said

771
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,039
to Danny, I was like, it came from that doll Willow.

772
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,320
And He's like, well, she's been dormant for like ages,

773
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:58,800
like nothing ever happens with her. I said, well, tonight

774
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,760
it has, and I think it happens a couple more

775
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,239
times after also, So she's also at the hotel on

776
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,960
display at the bar area.

777
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,039
Speaker 2: I believe, moving as well, didn't they she moved in moving?

778
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Grace moving as well?

779
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Actually on film or camera? All right? Is that footage

780
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,960
available anywhere? Yes? I believe I've been shown worldwide.

781
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: There's a clip of it being on Spanish news I think,

782
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,519
isn't it right?

783
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got YouTube channel and like Tom said before,

784
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:39,639
they've got a new VHX channel as well. So yeah,

785
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,320
that's one of the most terrifying items and experiences that

786
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,280
I had there.

787
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,039
Speaker 1: Did you think, she said, Obviously you can. You can

788
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,440
sort of feel stuff when when you're when you're in places,

789
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,639
even though you might not necessarily tell people that you're feeling.

790
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:03,239
Did you get any any bad feelings from these these dolls?

791
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,519
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say bad feelings, but kind of like with Jeanette,

792
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,280
I feel like, I don't know, with her, I feel

793
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,199
like she's been betrayed a little bit to be evil

794
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,039
when she may not be that evil, but there's meant

795
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:25,280
to be like three other entities with the doll also,

796
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,239
so I don't know whether it's them three that are

797
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:37,320
being quite dominant towards her. Maybe, but that's just my opinion. Really,

798
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480
that's how I feel, and I have spoke to other

799
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,840
people and they've also thought the same about Jeanette. Also,

800
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,480
you know that she's probably misunderstood. But that's what the

801
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,079
whole project's about. We need to find out more about her.

802
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:57,039
Speaker 1: So, yeah, interesting, So there's sort of multiple spirits attached

803
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:00,679
to her, you think, yeah, it's yeah.

804
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: It's been proven that there's three entities with her with

805
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:07,320
Grace the doll. Yeah.

806
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:11,199
Speaker 1: And do we know why they've attached themselves to that

807
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,480
object in particular?

808
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 4: I don't think so. No. I think this is why

809
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,440
Danny's got this project still ongoing, so we can find out.

810
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,480
But you know, they're not performing monkeys at the end

811
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,159
of the day, are they.

812
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,039
Speaker 1: So No. No, But I think I think any any

813
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:35,320
sort of inanimate object that has the ability to to

814
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:41,320
behave in that way, I find particularly scary, to be honest.

815
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,039
Speaker 4: It's the way that come out of that thing. It's

816
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,119
really horrible.

817
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: Can you I think.

818
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: Danny was threatened to have his eyes burned out at

819
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,400
one point, to be killed, things.

820
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,679
Speaker 1: Like that, this is the witch? Is it that's attached

821
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,960
itself to There is.

822
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: A witch, but there's also three other entities?

823
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, yeah, yeah.

824
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 4: But Jeanette has Jeanette has been quite vocal at times.

825
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,920
She will say things. I mean, I can't remember exactly

826
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,199
what she has said in the past, but.

827
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: She's cool. Said something like a moss I you're moss

828
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,599
or something along those lines.

829
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

830
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,199
Speaker 4: I don't think she gets on with him, but I

831
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:33,679
don't think he gets on with her either.

832
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,039
Speaker 3: It's also made the sound of like a goat bleating

833
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:42,280
as well, hasn't it, and a child screaming and just

834
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,719
making other weird noises they had. It happened on Halloween,

835
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,400
was when no one was in the building five four

836
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,840
o'clock in the morning whenever it was just like a

837
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,880
blook gurdling scream come from that room and then you

838
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,960
could hear it saying I'm sorry or something.

839
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: It was.

840
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's strange. I don't even fully believe in like haunted,

841
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,159
but it's weird.

842
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's quite disturbing, really, isn't it that? Yeah,

843
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,760
it's it's pretty unpleasant. Yeah. No, no dolls. I think

844
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,199
in particularly a lot of people have got four mes

845
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:20,239
anty about about dolls and clans. But won't we won't going,

846
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,519
we won't going to that. When I was having a

847
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,519
quick look on your on your first book page an

848
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:30,320
artist that you'd you'd been to, what was dub UK's

849
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,440
most haunted h castle?

850
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: Oh that was Dudley Castle. So I also volunteer for

851
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:41,760
afterlife and spooky events, and I was invited to go

852
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,119
and host at Dudley Castle. So done myself there early

853
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,440
and just did a little mini episode.

854
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:48,599
Speaker 1: Wandering the grounds.

855
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:51,079
Speaker 2: And what was brilliant was we had one of the guides,

856
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,800
one of the ladies that works there, knows the place well,

857
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:57,000
and she gave us the full history and a full

858
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:58,159
tour of the grounds.

859
00:46:58,599 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: That place is incredible.

860
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:04,559
Speaker 2: I mean I went on a wet and windy February night,

861
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,039
so I didn't get.

862
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,079
Speaker 1: The full effect, do you know what I mean?

863
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,039
Speaker 2: It was horrible whether it was awful, but still the

864
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:15,199
bits I saw left me wanted more. We had little

865
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,119
bits of activity, things like k two meters going off

866
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:22,800
on their own on demand. Actually in the episode as well,

867
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,480
you'll hear we actually caught a whistle, a whistle from

868
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:28,760
nowhere when actually we've been asking for someone to make

869
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,400
a sound or.

870
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: Make a whistle.

871
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: But the whole place kind of gives just a vibe.

872
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,039
There's been a lot of it was around during the

873
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:40,920
English Civil War.

874
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: There was a blaze I think.

875
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,559
Speaker 2: It was in seventeen fifty where there were some people

876
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:48,440
caught up in there. Jacob I think his name is

877
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:50,360
supposedly haunts the place.

878
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,199
Speaker 1: But what was interesting was.

879
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: The lady that showed me around was giving me the

880
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:57,760
tales of a little girl that she'd seen a couple

881
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,960
of times, a little girl just running around that she

882
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:02,079
just catches now and again.

883
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,679
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

884
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: And also there's a there's like a cafe there and

885
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,599
a pub that's named the Gray Lady. That's the most

886
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,519
that's the most famous spirit around the place. And it's

887
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,840
actually been caught not long ago on camera, right. But again,

888
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,039
there's various accounts of this Gray Lady wandering the grounds.

889
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:30,119
The story goes that she wasn't granted what she asked

890
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,360
for on her deathbed, so she asked for a husband

891
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,480
to be there and to be buried with a husband

892
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:36,159
or something, and it didn't happen.

893
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,199
Speaker 1: So she's believed to wonder the ground looking for him.

894
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,119
Speaker 2: So it's a wonderful place and I need to go

895
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,199
back a lot of history. There a lot of stories

896
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,719
about the place. I don't think I've got the full

897
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440
effect that night because of the weather, and I'd love

898
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,119
to do it again.

899
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,079
Speaker 1: But whereabouts is it Dudley Castle?

900
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,159
Speaker 2: So actually it's on the top of a hill near

901
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,960
the zoo. So in the middle of Dudley itself, there's

902
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,559
there's the zoo that's on the side of a hill,

903
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,039
and they'll the castles right at the top and actually

904
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,519
you can still walk up one of the towers you

905
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:09,360
go to the top, and actually the view from the

906
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,239
top over the city is amazing to.

907
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,639
Speaker 1: Sort of Norman then in age or I think, yeah,

908
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:18,800
I think it goes way back.

909
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,159
Speaker 2: I think originally it was a wooden fort, so there's

910
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:22,800
been something there for an awful long time.

911
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Norman times. Yeah, yeah, So it's probably

912
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:28,880
like probably built on the hills, probably a Motta Bayley

913
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,079
or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

914
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: And another thing that's interesting about the site is it's

915
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,800
made of limestone, and there's a belief in the paranormal

916
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,159
community that limestone can hold energies. Whether it's true or not,

917
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,519
it's an interesting theory.

918
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard. I've heard similar I've got certain theories

919
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:50,880
about the area where I live on Pendal Hill and

920
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:56,199
why Pendle Hill is so active, not only in historical

921
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:59,000
terms obviously with the peddal which is but a lot

922
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,840
of UFO activity around here as well. So and that's

923
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,960
actually limestone and sandstone, so that's quite interesting. You mentioned that.

924
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: It's certainly on the book at list. Is somewhere I

925
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,760
want to go to very soon. Yeah, Penal Hill.

926
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: Well, by all means, let me know when you're here

927
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,079
and I'll take you on a guide to fantastic I

928
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:23,960
might take you up on that. No, don't mind at all, No, No,

929
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:27,119
it's it's interesting you mentioned about. I mean, geology is

930
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:29,360
something that we could go off for the tangent and

931
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,079
talk about. I think there's a lot of a lot

932
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:35,119
of links between paranormal activity and the geology of Worry

933
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,159
place is not only the history of what's gone on there,

934
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,880
but also where it is in in you know, terms

935
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,519
of like said, water is a very very important factor

936
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,519
as well. I think a lot of times so I

937
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:48,599
tend to find a lot of places near water, don't you,

938
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:53,559
that are particularly activity. So yeah, yeah, So, well, it's

939
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,400
been amazing talking to you, Talking to you guys. You've

940
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:03,800
obviously had some some really really interesting adventures. Shall we say,

941
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,440
have you got anything in the pipeline that you're particularly

942
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,519
looking forward to? I mean, obviously we'll be so much

943
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,760
about it, but any places you're going to in the

944
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,119
near future, I'll let you pronounce that whole rate go on.

945
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:18,679
Speaker 4: Oh god, I can't even remember it's called.

946
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:27,039
Speaker 1: I don't know it was going to be Welsh I

947
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:28,440
want to say Clannidole.

948
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,119
Speaker 4: That's it.

949
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Welshpool. We'll call it welsh Pool Hole.

950
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,159
So we've got that private hide so that will be nice.

951
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,800
It's just the three of us going there. Got a

952
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,639
new CCTV system already to go that we can take there,

953
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,719
so hopefully we catch some good stuff there.

954
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,679
Speaker 1: Excellent, So what what's your You've got a Facebook page

955
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,199
Japan as well as your YouTube channel.

956
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got Facebook the Northern Frights UK

957
00:51:56,119 --> 00:51:58,400
Frights with a Z. It's the same on YouTube, and

958
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,440
then we also have a TikTok as well, which is

959
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:01,679
t n F dot UK.

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Speaker 2: Find us on there.

961
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: Excellent, good stuff. But it's been brilliant talking to you guys.

962
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,840
Thank you so much for coming on. It's been it's

963
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,320
been really really entertaining, and good luck with your future

964
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,400
investigations and you'll have to come back on again sometime

965
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,199
in the near future with when you can tell me

966
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,280
more about you the stuff that you've get on with

967
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,320
that backlog, Tom, and we need to talk about you

968
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,880
talk about all your investigations that are all are all

969
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,679
backed up. I know what it's like when you when

970
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:38,960
you're doing video editor. It's it's hard work, it really is.

971
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,280
But it's been great talking to all three. Thanks very

972
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,360
much for coming on, no problem at all, care and

973
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,400
good luck with your investigations.

974
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,079
Speaker 2: Thanks Craig Jeers than you can visit my website at

975
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:56,400
www dot Craig Bryant dot co dot uk.

976
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Speaker 1: Paranormal Pendle will return and remember to keep watching the shadows.

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