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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, everyone, welcome to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse along with

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<v Speaker 2>you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland this weekend as

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardians on this holiday weekend are taking on the

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit Tigers. Another game coming up Saturday night at seven fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the series and short homestand finale is Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>at one forty. Good show lined up for you Today.

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<v Speaker 2>At the tail end, we'll have another edition of at

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<v Speaker 2>the Ballpark with Senior Vice President Bob d. Biascio. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>also have a look at one of the top pitchers

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<v Speaker 2>in the minor league system for the Guardians, Parker Messik.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a chance to visit with Jaylen Norman down

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<v Speaker 2>at Columbus. We'll hear from relief pitcher Eric Sabrowski, former

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians pitcher Matthew Boyd now with the Cubs. And in

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit we'll hear from two of the

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<v Speaker 2>best hitters for the Guardians this season, Jose Ramirez, an

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<v Speaker 2>All Star, and Carlos Santana, who continues to reach some milestones,

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<v Speaker 2>but looking back at the week gone by, the Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>will head into play on Saturday on an eight game

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<v Speaker 2>losing streak, some tough games at Wrigley Field in Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>against the Cubs, close ball games, a one run loss

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday night, and then Thursday night, a one nothing

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<v Speaker 2>defeat in ten innings. That is the way it's going

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<v Speaker 2>right now for the Guardians, as they just can't come

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<v Speaker 2>away with a win lately, and that continued on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night when they returned home and dropped another one run game,

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<v Speaker 2>this time to the Tigers by a final score of

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<v Speaker 2>two to one. But not for a lack of trying

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<v Speaker 2>from Carlos Santana. Tuesday night in Chicago against the Cubs,

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<v Speaker 2>he hit his four hundredth career double, and he also

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<v Speaker 2>has more than three hundred career home runs thirteen hundred walks,

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<v Speaker 2>only the third switch hitter in Major League history to

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<v Speaker 2>compile those numbers, the other two couple of Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>famers in Eddie Murray and Chipper Jones. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to visit with Carlos and talk about the accomplishments

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<v Speaker 2>that he continues to put up and he is certainly proud.

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<v Speaker 3>Of I think I got blessed. You know, has a

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<v Speaker 3>great career. So I say thank you guys for every day.

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<v Speaker 4>For that talent.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I'm a little bit surprised. And I

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<v Speaker 3>had the big two name like Moor right and cheaper Jong,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm making that, So I think I'm happy for that. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that. I don't okay, the four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>double he's coming, but I don't know that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>have behind too, you know, the two Hall of Fame player.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were talking about switch hitting a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>earlier and your natural right handed hitter, sixteen years of

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<v Speaker 2>age you started hitting left handed. How difficult was that

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<v Speaker 2>transition to start doing that and become a good hitter

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<v Speaker 2>from that side of the plate too.

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<v Speaker 5>He's hard, you know, he's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially yet he's hard because you know, you're never one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent to the ball. Said, sometimes you feel good writing,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you know, feel good lefty. Sometimes you go efty

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<v Speaker 5>You go write it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's hard, you know, doing the swish it. He's

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<v Speaker 3>like one player for two different hitting so it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's hard. You have to working hard. A lot, So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>The fans may be able to hear it right outside

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<v Speaker 2>the indoor cage here, you're going back to working a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit here. And do you work on both every

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<v Speaker 2>day or do you kind of give one a break

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<v Speaker 2>depending on who the picture is.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have to work every day, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 3>like lefty star but lay in the gang. I had

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<v Speaker 3>to writy, you know, so I had to soon righty,

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<v Speaker 3>especially like today, I prepare more right side, more to

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<v Speaker 3>the left side because the starting but I had to

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<v Speaker 3>work out both sides because something situation lay in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to be ready for that.

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<v Speaker 2>As a veteran player, the team's going through a top

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<v Speaker 2>stretcher offensively trying to score more. What can you do

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<v Speaker 2>as a veteran boys to try and help maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of your teammates along as you try and take care

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<v Speaker 2>of your own game too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean, you know right now we have a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit difficulty fore hit.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know this is that happened.

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<v Speaker 5>That happened.

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<v Speaker 3>We had the great, great talent, great teammate, so you

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<v Speaker 3>know the mentally he's keeping focused and not big head down.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a long season, but I think you know, can

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<v Speaker 3>we fight him?

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<v Speaker 6>We go.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked to with another player a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and everything is good.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to tell it like befocus positive energy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>keep it fighting, keep it fighting. I tell him, like,

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<v Speaker 3>look in Detroit last year, I mean in August, they lost,

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<v Speaker 3>They think about to the next year and they make

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<v Speaker 3>him playoffs. You know, he's is that happened to the

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<v Speaker 3>baseball you know what? I know one they think he's fluctuated.

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<v Speaker 3>Will little bit mean because we try and right now

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<v Speaker 3>every then negative. You know, we were coming. We have

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<v Speaker 3>Gray Gray, great teamming, great talent, and see what happened

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<v Speaker 3>and the second will happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Carlo is always great to have you on. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Carlos Santana at the age of thirty nine, still

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<v Speaker 2>putting together quality at bats and producing. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>good start to the month of July for Santana. Jose

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<v Speaker 2>Ramirez will be heading to the All Star Game this week,

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<v Speaker 2>not this week, but this month. Later on this month.

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<v Speaker 2>He found out this week that he would be the

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<v Speaker 2>American League's starting third baseman, the fourth time that he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a starter at the All Star Game, the seventh

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<v Speaker 2>time that he is going to the All Star Game.

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<v Speaker 2>That puts him just one shy of Bob Feller's franchise record.

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<v Speaker 2>Along with translator Augi Riverojsey says, it's always special to

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<v Speaker 2>get the news that he's made the All Star team.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you one, your mom.

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<v Speaker 9>Thankful to God for this opportunity and also for being

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<v Speaker 9>a healthy way and especially the fans because they voted

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<v Speaker 9>me into the game. So very special to be recognized

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<v Speaker 9>this year again.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you mentioned yesterday that you're not pleased with

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<v Speaker 2>it with how the season is going based on your standards,

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you mean by that? What areas are

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<v Speaker 2>you you're still trying to get to.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's just saying because I feel I need

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<v Speaker 9>to keep improving in all the areas of my game

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<v Speaker 9>because I feel that it needs me even more so

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<v Speaker 9>obviously they need to keep improving and keep improving every

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<v Speaker 9>facet of my game.

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<v Speaker 2>The amount of times that you have gone. For some players,

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<v Speaker 2>it gets old and it's not as special, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like for you every year it is special.

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<v Speaker 9>How comes always the goal every time you start the season.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, when you start this season, that's like the

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<v Speaker 9>physical that you can achieve and getting to selected to

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<v Speaker 9>lost our game because it's important day to celebrate and

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<v Speaker 9>share with your fans, with your family, especially with very

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<v Speaker 9>talented players as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And historical perspective. One shy about eight appearances. Sandy Alomar

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<v Speaker 2>and also Kenny Lofton started three times. Now you've started

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<v Speaker 2>the most. What does that mean to be mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>the same breath as those guys who are such a

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I didn't know that fact.

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<v Speaker 9>It's good to know about that I'm among those players,

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<v Speaker 9>but you know it's important. It's important for me every

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<v Speaker 9>time you have those goals to achieve and try to

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<v Speaker 9>make the All Star Game in particularly in my own

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<v Speaker 9>goal is to to go to ten All Star Games.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's see what the health allows and my performance, but

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<v Speaker 9>that's the goal that I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Posey, congratulations, thank you, thank you, Ogi, thanks thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>What a career for Jose Ramirez and he doesn't show

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<v Speaker 2>any signs of slowing down.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a time out and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll hear from relief pitcher Eric Sabowski. That's next the

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<v Speaker 4>The pit swung out a slow chapter.

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<v Speaker 7>The third charge by Ramire's clubs Scoops throws in the

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<v Speaker 7>dirt pick by Santana. Heck of a play on both ends.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it's runners on the corners. Is Kuan advanced to third?

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<v Speaker 7>Ramirez is on it first for Carlos Santana. He swings

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<v Speaker 10>To shallow left that gets down for a base head

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<v Speaker 10>Juan will score on his way to third is Ramirez.

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<v Speaker 10>He's in safely and Carlos Santana comes through.

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<v Speaker 7>The kick and delivery and it's head high hit deep

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<v Speaker 7>to right. Heerez track wall leaves gone. That's how you

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<v Speaker 7>break it over for twenty one skin Jose Ramiro's a

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<v Speaker 7>towering home run to right is fourteenth, and he continues

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<v Speaker 7>to absolutely torture the Tigers year in, year out.

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<v Speaker 8>A progressive home an ottowuandle can protect you around the clock,

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<v Speaker 8>but we can't protect you from those painful moments in sports.

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<v Speaker 6>Why would we trade our best player?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, at least you got to watch him in person

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<v Speaker 8>when he was here. I named my only son after him,

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<v Speaker 8>so you'll always remember his name.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but what do I do with this Jersey.

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<v Speaker 8>Luckily the company has a great return policy.

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<v Speaker 6>I warrant for six seasons.

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<v Speaker 8>At least your homenauda or protected with a bundle from

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<v Speaker 8>Progressive Progressive casualt Interns Company. Off you had another Interurvi's

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<v Speaker 8>not available in THO stags a situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim rosen House back with

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<v Speaker 2>you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Guardians and Tigers

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<v Speaker 2>meeting in this three game weekend series. Back with the

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<v Speaker 2>ball club after starting the season on the injured list

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<v Speaker 2>is left hander Eric Sabrowski, who was a key out

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<v Speaker 2>of the bullpen for the Guardians down the stretch a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago and then on into the postseason. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>looked really sharp in a couple of outings now since returning.

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<v Speaker 2>And he talked recently about dealing with the apprehension that

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<v Speaker 2>comes with returning from an arm injury, and he's had

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<v Speaker 2>a few in his career.

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<v Speaker 11>There's always a little bit of apprehension every time you throw,

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<v Speaker 11>just the nature of being a reliever. But I think

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<v Speaker 11>you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you're thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, on the mound warming up the day of

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<v Speaker 11>I think it's once you get to the ballpark, you

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<v Speaker 11>leave all those thoughts out of the lay and you

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<v Speaker 11>just know that you're there to do your job that

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<v Speaker 2>And you go from a rehab assignment where I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's about building up and feeling good, but stuff, it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like it was tremendous and a clean inning and

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<v Speaker 2>then a really good curveball. It was that surprising at

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<v Speaker 2>all to you that you had that kind of command

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<v Speaker 11>Probably the command, Yeah, it certainly wasn't there to that

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<v Speaker 11>extent during my rehab outings. I think my curveball has

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Sabrowski's joining us back in that Guardian's bullpen, and

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<v Speaker 2>Eric had a really good stretch at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>alast year, your first time in the major leagues, And

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<v Speaker 2>what did you take away from that that that might

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<v Speaker 2>be helpful as you get deeper into it here this season, Just.

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<v Speaker 11>That I have the stuff to belong in this league. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>it was a phenomenal stretch. It went better than I

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<v Speaker 11>consistent basis. So now I just need to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And you did have the health set back, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>had some injuries to work back. From your story, it

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<v Speaker 2>out there mentally, though, what was that like for you

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<v Speaker 2>this spring when when you had to just take some

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it sucked, you know, especially coming off last year.

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<v Speaker 11>I thought I had a good shot to make this

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<v Speaker 11>fall club out of spring and that just didn't happen

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<v Speaker 11>to be in the cards for me. It's missing time

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<v Speaker 11>is never fun. But it gave me a chance to

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<v Speaker 11>And I think I'm in a good spot to help

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<v Speaker 11>this ball club out for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And you rejoin a really good bullpen numbers. Why some

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<v Speaker 2>ups and downs this year, But what do you see

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to it based on what you knew from

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<v Speaker 11>I think there's still consistently one of the best bullpens

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<v Speaker 11>in this league. Yeah, we probably no one's had the

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<v Speaker 11>stretch they wanted to have, but the talents there and

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<v Speaker 11>the personnel is there to get back to and if

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<v Speaker 11>not exceed what we had last year.

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<v Speaker 2>First time pitching it Wrigley, hopefully in this series. What

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<v Speaker 11>I mean the history here, right, I think second oldest

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<v Speaker 11>but being on the other side is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric, great to see again, Thanks, Thank you, Hat's relief

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<v Speaker 2>pitcher Eric Sabrowski. Good to see him back healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>throwing the ball well. By another pitcher who's thrown it well,

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<v Speaker 2>left handed starter Matthew Boyd, who's now with the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Cubs after really filling a vital role for the Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>down the stretch a year ago. He was a key

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<v Speaker 2>member of the starting rotation and then pitched extremely well

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<v Speaker 2>in the postseason Tuesday Night against the Guardians. He went

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<v Speaker 2>seven innings and was solid in a five to two

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<v Speaker 2>win for the Cubs, And we caught up with him

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<v Speaker 2>the next day and he says, while it was a

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<v Speaker 2>with the franchise, well technically in including his rehab, about

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<v Speaker 2>a year's time, but on the field only about three months,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said at the time it was a perfect

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<v Speaker 12>Man, I'm so so grateful.

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<v Speaker 13>For my time in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean it, you know, I think I got there

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<v Speaker 12>at the end of June, and you know, but that

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<v Speaker 12>it was that three plus, you know, four months felt

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm so grateful for the Guardians to give me that shot,

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<v Speaker 12>from Chris the voter to.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, Carl, like I have so much gratitude to

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<v Speaker 12>That was some of the most most fun I've ever

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<v Speaker 12>had playing baseball. And my only regrets that we you know,

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<v Speaker 12>we didn't win more, you know, so, uh it's a.

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<v Speaker 13>I just thought that squad.

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<v Speaker 12>Was amazing, and it's so fun to get to see

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I was gonna say, baseball being what it

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<v Speaker 2>is if you're with a new team now, but earlier

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<v Speaker 2>today you had a chance to visit with some old

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<v Speaker 12>It was a lot of fun. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of fun. I mean, we always we stay in contact

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<v Speaker 12>with the finally they'll you know, see guys, and uh,

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<v Speaker 12>it's awesome. It's like like you said, we we that

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<v Speaker 12>playoff stretch and then in the playoffs was such a

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<v Speaker 12>great time and so time that really brings you together

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<v Speaker 12>as a team.

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<v Speaker 13>That it was just it was really special to.

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<v Speaker 12>Actually, you know, to just to share that with them

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<v Speaker 12>and some of the most fun I've ever had on

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<v Speaker 12>a baseball field. So to get to to get to

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<v Speaker 12>see him today has been cool. And it's just like

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<v Speaker 12>I said, I'm always gonna have a special start in

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<v Speaker 12>a special place in my heart for Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had a long career, but that was really that

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<v Speaker 2>first extended playoff run where you've had several starts and

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<v Speaker 2>now what do you learn about yourself in postseason when

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<v Speaker 2>you had great success.

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<v Speaker 12>It's one of those things you always learned about doing.

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<v Speaker 12>So I remember that first one against Detroit. It was

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<v Speaker 12>finally like I've been waiting for this and it's here,

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<v Speaker 12>and I got chills as I'm saying it. It's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>come to do what I've always knew I could do,

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<v Speaker 12>and it's it was so much fun, you know, And

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<v Speaker 12>getting to do it again in Game five against de

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<v Speaker 12>Troy and then getting to do it in the LCS

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<v Speaker 12>against the Yankees. It was like, this is this is

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<v Speaker 12>special And again what made a special is the group

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<v Speaker 12>that you do it with. And it was, like I said,

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<v Speaker 12>amazing group and all around really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like you're gonna fit in wherever you go.

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems like you've done that very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Here. This looks like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good ball club that could get back, get you back

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<v Speaker 2>to postseason. What are you seeing here in Chicago that

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<v Speaker 2>looks really good?

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<v Speaker 12>We got such a great group from you know, the

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<v Speaker 12>front office and and Craig and our pitching staff, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>and and Tommy leading our pitching staff, and then in

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<v Speaker 12>the position players. It's it's a it's a great group

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<v Speaker 12>of guys. And we got guys that just they show

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<v Speaker 12>up right to win. We love being around each other.

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<v Speaker 12>We have a lot of fun together, you know. We

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<v Speaker 12>got we got guys like Justin Turner who've won World

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<v Speaker 12>Series and dance by Swanson, you know, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 12>we've got guys like Matshaw and Pete Crow who are

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<v Speaker 12>still cutting their teeth in the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 13>And and and uh.

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<v Speaker 12>And it's just a great balance of guys, and we

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<v Speaker 12>just we have fun being together. We have fun winning

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<v Speaker 12>together and competing together, and uh, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 12>it's it's a it's a special group. And I'm grateful that,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, back to back years and I've been had

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<v Speaker 12>the opportunity to be parts of really special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>It is great to see again. It looked like vintage

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Boyd last night, for sure. And thanks a lot

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<v Speaker 2>for coming by.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate it and thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Brobye. One of the good guys in the game, Matthew Boyd,

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<v Speaker 2>and great to see him having some success with the

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago Cubs. There'll be a big key for a team

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<v Speaker 2>that has big time playoff aspirations. Stay with us when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back. We'll take it to the minor league side.

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<v Speaker 2>With our correspondent Jayalen Norman. That's next the Cleveland Clinic

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians Radio Network. Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse

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<v Speaker 2>back with you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Hope

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<v Speaker 2>you're having a great Fourth of July weekend as the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians are taking on the Tigers here at Progressive Field

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend. Another game Saturday night at seven fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Sunday afternoon at one to close out the series.

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<v Speaker 2>While down at Columbus, Parker Messik has certainly put together

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<v Speaker 2>some solid numbers on the mound in that starting rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the organization's top pitching prospects. Jayalen Norman

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<v Speaker 2>is our correspondent in the minor leagues and she was

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<v Speaker 2>in Columbus and she had a chance to sit down

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<v Speaker 2>with Parker Messick before a recent game.

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<v Speaker 15>Parker, you've started the season off here in Columbus, So

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<v Speaker 15>first off, how do you just kind of describe what

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<v Speaker 15>it's like being here in Columbus, kicking off the season

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<v Speaker 15>here and being a part of this team.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, it's been really cool. I didn't really know where

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<v Speaker 16>I was going to start leaving spring training. I was

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<v Speaker 16>a minor league camp and he didn't know if I

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<v Speaker 16>was going to be a double or triplay guy. That

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<v Speaker 16>was kind of out in the air based on how

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<v Speaker 4>So he got lucky enough.

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<v Speaker 5>To start here in Columbus. And team's great, coaches.

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<v Speaker 16>Great, all the guys are great. I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 16>just been just been a blasbeing here.

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<v Speaker 15>What's your favorite Columbus thing so far? Because I've heard

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<v Speaker 15>the restaurants are good, they're good shops.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you so far like the most.

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<v Speaker 15>About won this?

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly the fans, like with every game that.

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<v Speaker 16>We have, even like kind of rainy games like Tuesday

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<v Speaker 16>time and it'll be packed to night. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 16>cool that every time you come to a game there's

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<v Speaker 16>fans in the stand. It makes it worth it makes

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<v Speaker 8>I think.

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<v Speaker 16>So for other than all the you know, cool restaurants,

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<v Speaker 15>My favorite part in each level, I know brings a

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<v Speaker 15>different set of challenges. Obviously there's something new that you're

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<v Speaker 15>learning about yourself, something new that.

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<v Speaker 5>You're seeing at each level.

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<v Speaker 15>How do you describe the way Triple A ball is

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<v Speaker 15>different from the.

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<v Speaker 5>Other levels you played. Yeah, a lot of the guys

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<v Speaker 5>in Triple A are are you know, one call away

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<v Speaker 5>from the big league.

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<v Speaker 16>So these are the guys that have big league time

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<v Speaker 16>or a guy like you know, Vincer has spent a

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<v Speaker 5>Like they're they're just all different.

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<v Speaker 16>Kinds of guys that are messed together and you know,

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<v Speaker 16>I'm twenty four playing with some of the older guys,

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<v Speaker 16>So it's just really cool to see like young guys

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<v Speaker 16>playing against older guys and the different experience levels, and

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<v Speaker 16>Vince and then there's still some things that I have

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<v Speaker 5>Field, like those sort of veteran hitters. So it's cool

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<v Speaker 16>Like how I match up versus order veteran hitters that

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's been a challenge, but it's been a lot

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, watching you play, I can see that you're a

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, where does that come from? I kind of always

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<v Speaker 16>Athlete, you know, in high school growing up as a kid,

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<v Speaker 16>I never I wasn't one of those guys that played

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<v Speaker 16>baseball year round, every every season. With baseball, I played.

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<v Speaker 16>I played every sport. I played football, basketball, soccer. So

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<v Speaker 16>I just learned to compete at a young age.

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<v Speaker 5>Even with my.

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<v Speaker 16>Dad fishing, we like keep score on how many fish

435
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<v Speaker 16>we catch, So I just always compete.

436
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<v Speaker 5>So when I'm on the mound. It's just like another

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<v Speaker 5>thing that I'm competing against.

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<v Speaker 16>I just want to I want to yell when I

439
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<v Speaker 16>start someone out, and you know, I'm a little mad

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<v Speaker 16>when I give up a run.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's part of the game and it's what makes

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<v Speaker 5>it fun.

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<v Speaker 15>How have you learned to kind of manage that so

444
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<v Speaker 15>that you're still being energetic, still showing that emotion, but

445
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<v Speaker 15>also staying focused and kind of keeping your pool while you're.

446
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<v Speaker 14>On the mound.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's definitely.

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<v Speaker 16>I've always called it a controlled anger since college. I

449
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<v Speaker 16>think all the broadcasters found that funny when I phrase

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<v Speaker 16>it that way in some of the eight CC Network podcasts.

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<v Speaker 16>But it's just, you know, you can you can ever

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<v Speaker 16>be too happy or too mad. You can't ride the

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<v Speaker 16>lows or ride the highs. Like when I give up

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<v Speaker 16>a home run, you know I can't throw it. You

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<v Speaker 16>can't throw a temper tantrument on the mound. The same

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<v Speaker 16>way when you strike one guy out, you can't you know,

457
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<v Speaker 16>come in slam your glove all fired up.

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<v Speaker 14>Like.

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<v Speaker 16>You just have to control different levels of the game.

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<v Speaker 16>If you're in a big spot and you get yourself

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<v Speaker 16>out of a jam, that's when you can show a

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<v Speaker 16>little positive emotion, and you know, you try and really

463
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<v Speaker 16>keep the negative emotion off the field. And that comes

464
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<v Speaker 16>with just experience and trial and error, and you know

465
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<v Speaker 16>there's there's people here that you're trying to make an

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<v Speaker 16>impression on and you don't want that impression to be

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<v Speaker 16>negative at any point in time. So you really got

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<v Speaker 16>to control your your emotions, your anger, even when it's positive,

469
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<v Speaker 16>like you have to harness that so that way.

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<v Speaker 5>You're still ready to go for the next sending, even

471
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<v Speaker 5>though you got yourself out of a big gym.

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<v Speaker 16>So yeah, I want to pitch with emotion as much

473
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<v Speaker 16>as I can, but I wanted to be in the

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<v Speaker 16>right spots.

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<v Speaker 15>Earlier, you mentioned fishing with your dad, and it's interesting

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<v Speaker 15>that you bring that up because I was actually an

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<v Speaker 15>accron last week and someone was talking about how they

478
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<v Speaker 15>met your dad and he was so excited to introduce

479
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<v Speaker 15>himself as Parker Messe's dad. So can you talk about

480
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<v Speaker 15>the support that you've gotten from your family, in particular

481
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<v Speaker 15>your dad and what that's meant to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it beats the world theirs. They come quite often

483
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<v Speaker 5>to a.

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<v Speaker 16>Lot of names, and you know, I have a support

485
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<v Speaker 16>system that goes from a small town. It goes all

486
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<v Speaker 16>the way into the route to that small town. Everyone

487
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:36.920
<v Speaker 16>that I played little league baseball with so keeps up

488
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<v Speaker 16>with me. My dad enjoys it because, you know, he

489
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<v Speaker 16>gets to communicate, Like he'll have people semester him on

490
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<v Speaker 16>Facebook that we haven't talked to in twenty years that

491
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<v Speaker 16>they've been following me in my entire career, and it's like,

492
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<v Speaker 16>you just don't hear from those people. But it's cool

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<v Speaker 16>to see that just from all those connections and the

494
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<v Speaker 16>family connections, that it's created those avenues for people to

495
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<v Speaker 16>you know, watch the game, watch me, and it's just

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<v Speaker 16>really cool for.

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<v Speaker 5>Me that I have a whole town and a whole

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<v Speaker 5>family supporting me, and.

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<v Speaker 16>It just gets bigger and bigger the more that I play.

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<v Speaker 2>That is Parker Messica certainly a name to keep an

501
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<v Speaker 2>eye on as we get closer to the tail end

502
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<v Speaker 2>of this season, it gets deeper into the second half,

503
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<v Speaker 2>and certainly we'll be on the radar next spring to

504
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<v Speaker 2>be sure, but still on the radar now and a

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<v Speaker 2>name that there's watching. We'll take another time out and

506
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<v Speaker 2>then come back with another edition of at the Ballpark

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<v Speaker 2>with Bobby d.

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<v Speaker 4>That's next.

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<v Speaker 8>A Progressive Home and Auto bundle can protect you around

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<v Speaker 8>the clock, but we can't protect you from those painful

511
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<v Speaker 8>moments in sports.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't believe they're moving the team to another city.

513
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<v Speaker 8>True, but you'll never forget all the joy they brought

514
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<v Speaker 8>into your life. Joy.

515
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<v Speaker 6>They made the playoffs twice in fifty years.

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<v Speaker 8>Gosh, those two times were pretty great.

517
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<v Speaker 4>Weren't they.

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<v Speaker 6>How would I know? I wasn't even born yet.

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<v Speaker 8>Just think of all the free time you'll have on

520
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<v Speaker 8>game days.

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<v Speaker 6>Those games were the highlight of my week.

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<v Speaker 8>At least your homanaud or protected with a bundle from

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<v Speaker 8>Progressive Progressive Casual Tea terms company up, Billy, have another

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<v Speaker 8>intur It's not available in those states? Are situations?

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<v Speaker 14>H Are you ready enough?

526
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 13>Getting up and counted down?

527
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<v Speaker 14>And sometimes and sometime we should make it out whoa

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<v Speaker 14>whoa to? What's his family?

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<v Speaker 15>So we're found to be from the East to the west,

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<v Speaker 15>sid si with me?

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<v Speaker 13>Whoa who?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, It's Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you

533
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<v Speaker 2>from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland, where the Guardians are

534
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<v Speaker 2>playing the Tigers this weekend. We always like to check

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<v Speaker 2>in with Bobby d from time to time, Guardians Senior

536
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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Bob D Biassio. And here's another edition of

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<v Speaker 2>At the Ballpark with Bobby D.

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<v Speaker 1>The perfectly manicured fields, the unmistakable aroma of a ballpark

539
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<v Speaker 1>hot dog, and the electricity celebrating another victory. This is

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<v Speaker 1>at the Ballpark with Bobby D.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you, Hammy.

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<v Speaker 17>Welcome to at the Ballpark, where we hope you enjoy

543
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<v Speaker 17>our conversations with those involved in the great game of baseball.

544
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<v Speaker 13>Those who may be behind.

545
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<v Speaker 17>The scenes are the colorful personalities who have provided so

546
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<v Speaker 17>many exciting moments and memories. Today we are joined by

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<v Speaker 17>one of the winningest pitchers in franchise history, a first

548
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<v Speaker 17>round draft pick, a member of Team USA, and the

549
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<v Speaker 17>Guardians Hall of Fame, mister Charlie Naggy. Thank you Chuck

550
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 17>for being with us. Catch us up on the family

551
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<v Speaker 17>these days.

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<v Speaker 18>The family's good kids are out of the house. Oldest

553
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<v Speaker 18>twenty five living in San Francisco, and our youngest is

554
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<v Speaker 18>she's a junior at Baylor University.

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<v Speaker 13>Empty nesters, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 17>Have to believe consistency is what you are most proud

557
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<v Speaker 17>of in your thirteen year career. Wearing that Cleveland uniform.

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<v Speaker 17>You make your major league debut in nineteen ninety, you

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<v Speaker 17>become a seventeen game winner in ninety two to an

560
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<v Speaker 17>all start, tossing two hundred and fifty innings.

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<v Speaker 13>That's a pretty cool way to start your career.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

563
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<v Speaker 18>It was a rapid minor league career. Got drafted boom

564
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<v Speaker 18>the Olympics Kinston, North Carolina, and then the following year

565
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<v Speaker 18>Campton and getting called up to the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was just a great moment.

567
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<v Speaker 17>And it wasn't that easy starting your career in college,

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<v Speaker 17>right You went to Cornell, You went there to play

569
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<v Speaker 17>football and baseball, and then there was an issue.

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<v Speaker 13>Then you move on to the University of Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 17>Tell us a little bit about that, so kids out

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<v Speaker 17>there understand that everybody has obstacles as they're trying to

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<v Speaker 17>reach their dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean I was enamored with Cornell. I went there

576
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<v Speaker 18>and it just didn't work out for me, whether I

577
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<v Speaker 18>just wasn't ready for it or what not. But still

578
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<v Speaker 18>went home and still kept in contact with coach Andy

579
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<v Speaker 18>Bailock at the University of Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 4>He was recruiting me also, and we made it work.

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<v Speaker 18>I had to do some summer schools before I went there,

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<v Speaker 18>and things went well, and I had two great years

583
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<v Speaker 18>there at the University Connecticut. A lot of friends, played

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<v Speaker 18>with great players, had a really good time. And then

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<v Speaker 18>and everb we got drafted that year in nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 17>Other than the nineteen ninety three season in which you

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<v Speaker 17>suffered an injury, you only had nine starts that year.

588
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<v Speaker 17>You rebound and enjoy a streak where you post double

589
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<v Speaker 17>digit wins in eight of the next nine street seasons,

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<v Speaker 17>again consistency. You start the last game at Cleveland Stadium. Ever,

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<v Speaker 17>I think Jason Burray became a friend, right, and that's who.

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<v Speaker 13>Was pitching for the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 17>You and Jason's were the starting two for the last

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<v Speaker 17>baseball game ever at Cleveland Stadium. So you pitch that

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<v Speaker 17>game coming off an injury. But then you don't miss

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<v Speaker 17>a start again until sometime after eleven starts in the

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<v Speaker 17>year two thousand.

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<v Speaker 13>That's a remarkable streak.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, I mean, that's what you strive for every year.

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<v Speaker 18>I remember Johnny Ferroll my first spring training sat down

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<v Speaker 18>next to me after a spring training game and we

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<v Speaker 18>were just talking.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit and he was just you know.

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<v Speaker 18>Hey, this is these are goals you should shoot for,

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<v Speaker 18>you know, make all your starts throw over two hundred

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<v Speaker 18>innings a year, and I mean, those are the benchmarks

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<v Speaker 18>that every pitcher should look for. And you know that's

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<v Speaker 18>after hearing that from him. You know, that's what I

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<v Speaker 18>strive to do, year in year out. And you know

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<v Speaker 18>there were probably some times I probably shouldn't have taken

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<v Speaker 18>the ball, but you know, oh well, you know, but

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<v Speaker 18>I just you know, you work hard and you want

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<v Speaker 18>to get that ball every fifth day and give your

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<v Speaker 18>team a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 17>You were a three time All Star, including nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 13>What was it like pitching on that team? That team

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<v Speaker 13>is the only team.

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<v Speaker 17>In our franchise history to score more than a thousand runs.

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<v Speaker 17>I believe the ninety four team, if the season wasn't

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<v Speaker 17>averted and had stopped in August, that club probably was

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<v Speaker 17>on pace to score one thousand runs. But the ninety

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<v Speaker 17>nine club, where Manly had one hundred and six rebies,

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<v Speaker 17>Robbie was just going crazy doing his thing. And of

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<v Speaker 17>course Jimmy Toldy being Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 13>Of course, what was it like pitching for that ball club?

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<v Speaker 18>It was like every other ball club we had There

627
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<v Speaker 18>I mean, we were just known for our offense, you know,

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<v Speaker 18>scoring runs. If you go out and you know, you

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<v Speaker 18>give up a few runs in the first standing, as

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<v Speaker 18>long as you hang in the game long enough, you've

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<v Speaker 18>got a chance to win this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Still.

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<v Speaker 18>And you know, you say the ninety four team, and

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<v Speaker 18>you know, you could actually argue the ninety five team too,

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<v Speaker 18>because it was one hundred and forty four games and

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<v Speaker 18>we still had a few obviously twenty some games that

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<v Speaker 18>we didn't play well.

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<v Speaker 17>That team was remarkable to me. You guys clinched a

639
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<v Speaker 17>division on September eighth, you end up winning the division

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<v Speaker 17>by thirty games.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, just people don't.

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<v Speaker 17>Understand one hundred and forty four game season. We're one

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<v Speaker 17>hundred and forty four, we win by thirty games, which

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<v Speaker 17>is ridiculous. You guys came to the park and the

645
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<v Speaker 17>attitude was once we clinched on September eight, was let's

646
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 17>get to one hundred.

647
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, we had to set a goal after that and

648
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 18>it was just to continue on winning and getting ready

649
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 18>for the postseason. And yeah, we came to win every game.

650
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 18>And I know everybody who who came to the other teams,

651
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 18>who came into Jacob's Field, and those years just didn't

652
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 18>want to be there. They didn't want to the pitchers

653
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 18>didn't want to face our lineup.

654
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.279
<v Speaker 17>Let's focus a little bit on one thing that I

655
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 17>think is remarkable in your career. There were two occasions

656
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 17>in our franchise history where we brought back thirty to

657
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 17>forty of our most illustrious alumni. One was the closing

658
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 17>of Cleveland Stadium October third of nineteen ninety three, and

659
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 17>then on July twenty first, two thousand and one, where

660
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.079
<v Speaker 17>we celebrated our one hundredth anniversary. You were on the

661
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 17>mound for both of those games, so you had to

662
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 17>pitch in front of that crew. So let's talk about

663
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 17>the May third. You're coming off an injury. But for

664
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 17>people that may not remember, we closed Cleveland Stadium with

665
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 17>Bob Hope after the game doing a rendition of thanks

666
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 17>for the memories at Cleveland Stadium and dotted around the

667
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 17>field the greats at third base is like the Al

668
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 17>Rosens and out and right field Rocky Colavito, and you

669
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 17>got all the great pitchers circling pitchers mound, and there's

670
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 17>players dotted all around the field and they're in the

671
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 17>loses watching you perform. Did that sink in that all

672
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 17>those eyes were on you?

673
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 4>Not so much at that time.

674
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 18>Initially, I was just concentrating on the game because it

675
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 18>was my first start coming back, and you know, just

676
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.759
<v Speaker 18>hoping everything would go well so I could, you know,

677
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 18>peace of mind for the offseason and going into the

678
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 18>next season. But then it started to hit me a

679
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 18>little bit when you know, you see all the great

680
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 18>players that are here and Bob Hope getting ready to

681
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 18>sing after the game. I really don't even remember the

682
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 18>outcome of the game.

683
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 13>We lost, unfortunately.

684
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 17>I think Mark Lewis struck out as the final out

685
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 17>in Cleveland Stadium baseball history for our franchise.

686
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 13>I think that's stuck in my head.

687
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 17>But again, you, j and Jason Barray were the two

688
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 17>starters to become friends, both in Cleveland uniforms. But you

689
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:33.000
<v Speaker 17>were coming off an injury, so you but that started

690
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 17>your streak. As we talked in segment one about your

691
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 17>incredible consistency. But what do you think about that old

692
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 17>cavernous place on the lake.

693
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I loved it.

694
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 18>You know, it's my first place being called up to,

695
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 18>and I love that stadium. It was a great place

696
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 18>to pitch had a good backdrop. You know, it was

697
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 18>an older team when I got there, and then it

698
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 18>kind of changed as people saw trade a lot of

699
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 18>guys away and then we went young and just everybody

700
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 18>was gearing up for the next night, you know, for

701
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.199
<v Speaker 18>the ninety four season and the new stadium that was

702
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 18>being built.

703
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 4>But it was sold out that day.

704
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.920
<v Speaker 18>We had a few sellouts throughout the season. Was opening

705
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 18>day July fourth, and the final week, final week in

706
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 18>all three games. And just also you know, to be

707
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 18>pictured on the tickets with mel Harder, So I get

708
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 18>that a lot. I get them in the mail, I

709
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 18>get them when I go back to Cleveland or just

710
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.360
<v Speaker 18>random people and just want them signed and talking about

711
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.119
<v Speaker 18>that day when we broke round for Jacobs Field and

712
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 18>it was just a that was That's a memory in

713
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 18>my mind that I'll never forget.

714
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 17>The other one is July twenty first, two thousand and one,

715
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 17>our one hundredth anniversary. There's forty plus members of the

716
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 17>top one hundred roster dotted by some of the greatest

717
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 17>pitchers in the history of our franchise, of course, and

718
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 17>you're starting that game as well.

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00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 13>Tell me all about that day.

720
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 18>It was a fun day. I mean, I've got to

721
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 18>know a lot of those guys that were there. I mean,

722
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.400
<v Speaker 18>they've been around before, and I'd been around for a

723
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.599
<v Speaker 18>while and it was great to see everybody that was there.

724
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 18>But and you know, I still had to remember that

725
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 18>I was pitching. And I remember we talked about taking

726
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 18>that photo when I was walking in after I warmed

727
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 18>up from the bullpen and getting in the photo. And

728
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 18>I didn't know how long it was going to take

729
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 18>or anything like that. I really didn't care at the time,

730
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.639
<v Speaker 18>but you know, we did that. We took the photo,

731
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 18>and you know, everybody pat me on the back, you know, hey,

732
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 18>go get him, go get him, And I'm like, oh god,

733
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 18>I better pitch.

734
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.119
<v Speaker 17>Well today, that's not exactly the words you used to be,

735
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 17>but it was something like that.

736
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 13>But yeah, I could not let you not be in

737
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 13>that photo.

738
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.920
<v Speaker 17>I didn't want it to be like a kindergarten homeroom

739
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 17>picture with a little thumbnail in the corner that Chuck

740
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 17>was there, but he was pitching that day. You had

741
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 17>to be in that photo. So when we took it,

742
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 17>but guys like Bob Feller and Louis Tiant and Lenny

743
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.519
<v Speaker 17>Barker Sonny Sebert mel Haarder, and Mud, Gary Bell, Sam McDowell.

744
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 17>They all came up to Charlie, patted him on the back,

745
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 17>said hey, we're really looking forward to see in your

746
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 17>throw today.

747
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 13>Go get them.

748
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 17>And you and I just had a nice little conversation

749
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 17>as we walked to the dugout about that.

750
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, about hey, don't screw this up.

751
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 13>But you won that game.

752
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 17>You pitched great, you got into I believe it was

753
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 17>through the seventh inning and we ended up winning that one.

754
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 17>So two of the most remarkable days in our history

755
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 17>as we celebrated our rich history, and you're on the

756
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 17>mound for both of them. I just think those are

757
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 17>the really cool things that fall in line in the

758
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 17>game of baseball. Chuck, it's been a blast catching up.

759
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 17>Many thanks, and we hope you enjoyed this trip down

760
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 17>memory lane. We look forward to another edition of at

761
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 17>the Ballpark on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network.

762
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>God it's going to do it for this week's edition

763
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 2>of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks to Brian Botsey for

764
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 2>putting together our show each and ever. We will join

765
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you next week back in Chicago. We were just there.

766
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>We're going back now to play the White Sox next

767
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.079
<v Speaker 2>weekend and that's where our show will originate from next week.

768
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<v Speaker 2>Hope you can join us. Then, this is Jim Rosenhause

769
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 2>reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly, the

770
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.480
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