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Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, welcome to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse along with
Speaker 2: you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland this weekend as
Speaker 2: the Guardians on this holiday weekend are taking on the
Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers. Another game coming up Saturday night at seven fifteen,
Speaker 2: and then the series and short homestand finale is Sunday
Speaker 2: at one forty. Good show lined up for you Today.
Speaker 2: At the tail end, we'll have another edition of at
Speaker 2: the Ballpark with Senior Vice President Bob d. Biascio. We'll
Speaker 2: also have a look at one of the top pitchers
Speaker 2: in the minor league system for the Guardians, Parker Messik.
Speaker 2: He had a chance to visit with Jaylen Norman down
Speaker 2: at Columbus. We'll hear from relief pitcher Eric Sabrowski, former
Speaker 2: Guardians pitcher Matthew Boyd now with the Cubs. And in
Speaker 2: just a little bit we'll hear from two of the
Speaker 2: best hitters for the Guardians this season, Jose Ramirez, an
Speaker 2: All Star, and Carlos Santana, who continues to reach some milestones,
Speaker 2: but looking back at the week gone by, the Guardians
Speaker 2: will head into play on Saturday on an eight game
Speaker 2: losing streak, some tough games at Wrigley Field in Chicago
Speaker 2: against the Cubs, close ball games, a one run loss
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night, and then Thursday night, a one nothing
Speaker 2: defeat in ten innings. That is the way it's going
Speaker 2: right now for the Guardians, as they just can't come
Speaker 2: away with a win lately, and that continued on Friday
Speaker 2: night when they returned home and dropped another one run game,
Speaker 2: this time to the Tigers by a final score of
Speaker 2: two to one. But not for a lack of trying
Speaker 2: from Carlos Santana. Tuesday night in Chicago against the Cubs,
Speaker 2: he hit his four hundredth career double, and he also
Speaker 2: has more than three hundred career home runs thirteen hundred walks,
Speaker 2: only the third switch hitter in Major League history to
Speaker 2: compile those numbers, the other two couple of Hall of
Speaker 2: famers in Eddie Murray and Chipper Jones. We had a
Speaker 2: chance to visit with Carlos and talk about the accomplishments
Speaker 2: that he continues to put up and he is certainly proud.
Speaker 3: Of I think I got blessed. You know, has a
Speaker 3: great career. So I say thank you guys for every day.
Speaker 4: For that talent.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm a little bit surprised. And I
Speaker 3: had the big two name like Moor right and cheaper Jong,
Speaker 3: and I'm making that, So I think I'm happy for that. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I don't okay, the four hundred
Speaker 3: double he's coming, but I don't know that. And I
Speaker 3: have behind too, you know, the two Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 2: And we were talking about switch hitting a little bit
Speaker 2: earlier and your natural right handed hitter, sixteen years of
Speaker 2: age you started hitting left handed. How difficult was that
Speaker 2: transition to start doing that and become a good hitter
Speaker 2: from that side of the plate too.
Speaker 5: He's hard, you know, he's hard.
Speaker 3: Especially yet he's hard because you know, you're never one
Speaker 3: hundred percent to the ball. Said, sometimes you feel good writing,
Speaker 3: sometimes you know, feel good lefty. Sometimes you go efty
Speaker 3: and off.
Speaker 5: You go write it.
Speaker 3: So it's hard, you know, doing the swish it. He's
Speaker 3: like one player for two different hitting so it's hard.
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard. You have to working hard. A lot, So,
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard.
Speaker 2: The fans may be able to hear it right outside
Speaker 2: the indoor cage here, you're going back to working a
Speaker 2: little bit here. And do you work on both every
Speaker 2: day or do you kind of give one a break
Speaker 2: depending on who the picture is.
Speaker 3: No, I have to work every day, you know, especially
Speaker 3: like lefty star but lay in the gang. I had
Speaker 3: to writy, you know, so I had to soon righty,
Speaker 3: especially like today, I prepare more right side, more to
Speaker 3: the left side because the starting but I had to
Speaker 3: work out both sides because something situation lay in the game.
Speaker 3: I had to be ready for that.
Speaker 2: As a veteran player, the team's going through a top
Speaker 2: stretcher offensively trying to score more. What can you do
Speaker 2: as a veteran boys to try and help maybe some
Speaker 2: of your teammates along as you try and take care
Speaker 2: of your own game too.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, you know right now we have a
Speaker 3: little bit difficulty fore hit.
Speaker 4: But you know this is that happened.
Speaker 5: That happened.
Speaker 3: We had the great, great talent, great teammate, so you
Speaker 3: know the mentally he's keeping focused and not big head down.
Speaker 3: It's a long season, but I think you know, can
Speaker 3: we fight him?
Speaker 6: We go.
Speaker 3: I talked to with another player a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: and you know, and everything is good.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I try to tell it like befocus positive energy. I mean,
Speaker 3: keep it fighting, keep it fighting. I tell him, like,
Speaker 3: look in Detroit last year, I mean in August, they lost,
Speaker 3: They think about to the next year and they make
Speaker 3: him playoffs. You know, he's is that happened to the
Speaker 3: baseball you know what? I know one they think he's fluctuated.
Speaker 3: Will little bit mean because we try and right now
Speaker 3: every then negative. You know, we were coming. We have
Speaker 3: Gray Gray, great teamming, great talent, and see what happened
Speaker 3: and the second will happen.
Speaker 4: Carlo is always great to have you on. Thank you,
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's Carlos Santana at the age of thirty nine, still
Speaker 2: putting together quality at bats and producing. It's been a
Speaker 2: good start to the month of July for Santana. Jose
Speaker 2: Ramirez will be heading to the All Star Game this week,
Speaker 2: not this week, but this month. Later on this month.
Speaker 2: He found out this week that he would be the
Speaker 2: American League's starting third baseman, the fourth time that he'll
Speaker 2: be a starter at the All Star Game, the seventh
Speaker 2: time that he is going to the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: That puts him just one shy of Bob Feller's franchise record.
Speaker 2: Along with translator Augi Riverojsey says, it's always special to
Speaker 2: get the news that he's made the All Star team.
Speaker 4: Hey, you one, your mom.
Speaker 9: Thankful to God for this opportunity and also for being
Speaker 9: a healthy way and especially the fans because they voted
Speaker 9: me into the game. So very special to be recognized
Speaker 9: this year again.
Speaker 2: I know you mentioned yesterday that you're not pleased with
Speaker 2: it with how the season is going based on your standards,
Speaker 2: And what do you mean by that? What areas are
Speaker 2: you you're still trying to get to.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just saying because I feel I need
Speaker 9: to keep improving in all the areas of my game
Speaker 9: because I feel that it needs me even more so
Speaker 9: obviously they need to keep improving and keep improving every
Speaker 9: facet of my game.
Speaker 2: The amount of times that you have gone. For some players,
Speaker 2: it gets old and it's not as special, but it
Speaker 2: seems like for you every year it is special.
Speaker 9: How comes always the goal every time you start the season.
Speaker 9: You know, when you start this season, that's like the
Speaker 9: physical that you can achieve and getting to selected to
Speaker 9: lost our game because it's important day to celebrate and
Speaker 9: share with your fans, with your family, especially with very
Speaker 9: talented players as well.
Speaker 2: And historical perspective. One shy about eight appearances. Sandy Alomar
Speaker 2: and also Kenny Lofton started three times. Now you've started
Speaker 2: the most. What does that mean to be mentioned in
Speaker 2: the same breath as those guys who are such a
Speaker 2: big part of this franchise.
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know that fact.
Speaker 9: It's good to know about that I'm among those players,
Speaker 9: but you know it's important. It's important for me every
Speaker 9: time you have those goals to achieve and try to
Speaker 9: make the All Star Game in particularly in my own
Speaker 9: goal is to to go to ten All Star Games.
Speaker 9: Let's see what the health allows and my performance, but
Speaker 9: that's the goal that I have.
Speaker 2: Posey, congratulations, thank you, thank you, Ogi, thanks thank you guys.
Speaker 2: What a career for Jose Ramirez and he doesn't show
Speaker 2: any signs of slowing down.
Speaker 4: Stay with us.
Speaker 2: We'll take a time out and when we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll hear from relief pitcher Eric Sabowski. That's next the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network.
Speaker 4: The pit swung out a slow chapter.
Speaker 7: The third charge by Ramire's clubs Scoops throws in the
Speaker 7: dirt pick by Santana. Heck of a play on both ends.
Speaker 7: Now it's runners on the corners. Is Kuan advanced to third?
Speaker 7: Ramirez is on it first for Carlos Santana. He swings
Speaker 7: loops one.
Speaker 10: To shallow left that gets down for a base head
Speaker 10: Juan will score on his way to third is Ramirez.
Speaker 10: He's in safely and Carlos Santana comes through.
Speaker 7: The kick and delivery and it's head high hit deep
Speaker 7: to right. Heerez track wall leaves gone. That's how you
Speaker 7: break it over for twenty one skin Jose Ramiro's a
Speaker 7: towering home run to right is fourteenth, and he continues
Speaker 7: to absolutely torture the Tigers year in, year out.
Speaker 8: A progressive home an ottowuandle can protect you around the clock,
Speaker 8: but we can't protect you from those painful moments in sports.
Speaker 6: Why would we trade our best player?
Speaker 8: Well, at least you got to watch him in person
Speaker 8: when he was here. I named my only son after him,
Speaker 8: so you'll always remember his name.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but what do I do with this Jersey.
Speaker 8: Luckily the company has a great return policy.
Speaker 6: I warrant for six seasons.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim rosen House back with
Speaker 2: you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Guardians and Tigers
Speaker 2: meeting in this three game weekend series. Back with the
Speaker 2: ball club after starting the season on the injured list
Speaker 2: is left hander Eric Sabrowski, who was a key out
Speaker 2: of the bullpen for the Guardians down the stretch a
Speaker 2: year ago and then on into the postseason. And he's
Speaker 2: looked really sharp in a couple of outings now since returning.
Speaker 2: And he talked recently about dealing with the apprehension that
Speaker 2: comes with returning from an arm injury, and he's had
Speaker 2: a few in his career.
Speaker 11: There's always a little bit of apprehension every time you throw,
Speaker 11: just the nature of being a reliever. But I think
Speaker 11: you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you're thinking about that.
Speaker 11: You know, on the mound warming up the day of
Speaker 11: I think it's once you get to the ballpark, you
Speaker 11: leave all those thoughts out of the lay and you
Speaker 11: just know that you're there to do your job that
Speaker 11: night and trying to do it to the best of
Speaker 11: your abilities.
Speaker 2: And you go from a rehab assignment where I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's about building up and feeling good, but stuff, it
Speaker 2: seemed like it was tremendous and a clean inning and
Speaker 2: then a really good curveball. It was that surprising at
Speaker 2: all to you that you had that kind of command
Speaker 2: and feel.
Speaker 11: Probably the command, Yeah, it certainly wasn't there to that
Speaker 11: extent during my rehab outings. I think my curveball has
Speaker 11: always been a pretty good pitch just happened to be
Speaker 11: my best pitch that night.
Speaker 2: Eric Sabrowski's joining us back in that Guardian's bullpen, and
Speaker 2: Eric had a really good stretch at the end of
Speaker 2: alast year, your first time in the major leagues, And
Speaker 2: what did you take away from that that that might
Speaker 2: be helpful as you get deeper into it here this season, Just.
Speaker 11: That I have the stuff to belong in this league. Yeah,
Speaker 11: it was a phenomenal stretch. It went better than I
Speaker 11: could have ever imagined. But just building off of that
Speaker 11: success and showing myself that, you know, I have what
Speaker 11: it takes to pitch in the big leagues on a
Speaker 11: consistent basis. So now I just need to, you know,
Speaker 11: keep my body in shape, keep my mind right, and
Speaker 11: go out there and perform.
Speaker 2: And you did have the health set back, and you've
Speaker 2: had some injuries to work back. From your story, it
Speaker 2: is certainly inspiring for I'm sure a lot of pictures
Speaker 2: out there mentally, though, what was that like for you
Speaker 2: this spring when when you had to just take some
Speaker 2: time off to get healthy again.
Speaker 11: Well, it sucked, you know, especially coming off last year.
Speaker 11: I thought I had a good shot to make this
Speaker 11: fall club out of spring and that just didn't happen
Speaker 11: to be in the cards for me. It's missing time
Speaker 11: is never fun. But it gave me a chance to
Speaker 11: work on other things that may may not have been lacking.
Speaker 11: And I think I'm in a good spot to help
Speaker 11: this ball club out for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: And you rejoin a really good bullpen numbers. Why some
Speaker 2: ups and downs this year, But what do you see
Speaker 2: coming back to it based on what you knew from
Speaker 2: a year ago.
Speaker 11: I think there's still consistently one of the best bullpens
Speaker 11: in this league. Yeah, we probably no one's had the
Speaker 11: stretch they wanted to have, but the talents there and
Speaker 11: the personnel is there to get back to and if
Speaker 11: not exceed what we had last year.
Speaker 2: First time pitching it Wrigley, hopefully in this series. What
Speaker 2: do you think it'll be fun?
Speaker 11: I mean the history here, right, I think second oldest
Speaker 11: Ballpark's gotten to experience it as a fan a few times,
Speaker 11: but being on the other side is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Eric, great to see again, Thanks, Thank you, Hat's relief
Speaker 2: pitcher Eric Sabrowski. Good to see him back healthy and
Speaker 2: throwing the ball well. By another pitcher who's thrown it well,
Speaker 2: left handed starter Matthew Boyd, who's now with the Chicago
Speaker 2: Cubs after really filling a vital role for the Guardians
Speaker 2: down the stretch a year ago. He was a key
Speaker 2: member of the starting rotation and then pitched extremely well
Speaker 2: in the postseason Tuesday Night against the Guardians. He went
Speaker 2: seven innings and was solid in a five to two
Speaker 2: win for the Cubs, And we caught up with him
Speaker 2: the next day and he says, while it was a
Speaker 2: short stint in Cleveland a year ago, he was only
Speaker 2: with the franchise, well technically in including his rehab, about
Speaker 2: a year's time, but on the field only about three months,
Speaker 2: and he said at the time it was a perfect
Speaker 2: fit for him.
Speaker 12: Man, I'm so so grateful.
Speaker 13: For my time in Cleveland.
Speaker 12: I mean it, you know, I think I got there
Speaker 12: at the end of June, and you know, but that
Speaker 12: it was that three plus, you know, four months felt
Speaker 12: much longer.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 12: I'm so grateful for the Guardians to give me that shot,
Speaker 12: from Chris the voter to.
Speaker 13: You know, Carl, like I have so much gratitude to
Speaker 13: everybody there.
Speaker 12: That was some of the most most fun I've ever
Speaker 12: had playing baseball. And my only regrets that we you know,
Speaker 12: we didn't win more, you know, so, uh it's a.
Speaker 13: I just thought that squad.
Speaker 12: Was amazing, and it's so fun to get to see
Speaker 12: the guys in town.
Speaker 2: Right now, I was gonna say, baseball being what it
Speaker 2: is if you're with a new team now, but earlier
Speaker 2: today you had a chance to visit with some old
Speaker 2: friends and what was that like catching up with them?
Speaker 12: It was a lot of fun. It was a lot
Speaker 12: of fun. I mean, we always we stay in contact
Speaker 12: with the finally they'll you know, see guys, and uh,
Speaker 12: it's awesome. It's like like you said, we we that
Speaker 12: playoff stretch and then in the playoffs was such a
Speaker 12: great time and so time that really brings you together
Speaker 12: as a team.
Speaker 13: That it was just it was really special to.
Speaker 12: Actually, you know, to just to share that with them
Speaker 12: and some of the most fun I've ever had on
Speaker 12: a baseball field. So to get to to get to
Speaker 12: see him today has been cool. And it's just like
Speaker 12: I said, I'm always gonna have a special start in
Speaker 12: a special place in my heart for Cleveland.
Speaker 2: You've had a long career, but that was really that
Speaker 2: first extended playoff run where you've had several starts and
Speaker 2: now what do you learn about yourself in postseason when
Speaker 2: you had great success.
Speaker 12: It's one of those things you always learned about doing.
Speaker 12: So I remember that first one against Detroit. It was
Speaker 12: finally like I've been waiting for this and it's here,
Speaker 12: and I got chills as I'm saying it. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 12: come to do what I've always knew I could do,
Speaker 12: and it's it was so much fun, you know, And
Speaker 12: getting to do it again in Game five against de
Speaker 12: Troy and then getting to do it in the LCS
Speaker 12: against the Yankees. It was like, this is this is
Speaker 12: special And again what made a special is the group
Speaker 12: that you do it with. And it was, like I said,
Speaker 12: amazing group and all around really cool.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you're gonna fit in wherever you go.
Speaker 2: And it seems like you've done that very well.
Speaker 4: Here. This looks like a.
Speaker 2: Good ball club that could get back, get you back
Speaker 2: to postseason. What are you seeing here in Chicago that
Speaker 2: looks really good?
Speaker 12: We got such a great group from you know, the
Speaker 12: front office and and Craig and our pitching staff, you know,
Speaker 12: and and Tommy leading our pitching staff, and then in
Speaker 12: the position players. It's it's a it's a great group
Speaker 12: of guys. And we got guys that just they show
Speaker 12: up right to win. We love being around each other.
Speaker 12: We have a lot of fun together, you know. We
Speaker 12: got we got guys like Justin Turner who've won World
Speaker 12: Series and dance by Swanson, you know, and uh, and
Speaker 12: we've got guys like Matshaw and Pete Crow who are
Speaker 12: still cutting their teeth in the big leagues.
Speaker 13: And and and uh.
Speaker 12: And it's just a great balance of guys, and we
Speaker 12: just we have fun being together. We have fun winning
Speaker 12: together and competing together, and uh, you know, it's it's
Speaker 12: it's it's a it's a special group. And I'm grateful that,
Speaker 12: you know, back to back years and I've been had
Speaker 12: the opportunity to be parts of really special teams.
Speaker 2: It is great to see again. It looked like vintage
Speaker 2: Matt Boyd last night, for sure. And thanks a lot
Speaker 2: for coming by.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it and thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: Brobye. One of the good guys in the game, Matthew Boyd,
Speaker 2: and great to see him having some success with the
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs. There'll be a big key for a team
Speaker 2: that has big time playoff aspirations. Stay with us when
Speaker 2: we come back. We'll take it to the minor league side.
Speaker 2: With our correspondent Jayalen Norman. That's next the Cleveland Clinic
Speaker 2: Guardians Radio Network. Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse
Speaker 2: back with you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Hope
Speaker 2: you're having a great Fourth of July weekend as the
Speaker 2: Guardians are taking on the Tigers here at Progressive Field
Speaker 2: this weekend. Another game Saturday night at seven fifteen, and
Speaker 2: then Sunday afternoon at one to close out the series.
Speaker 2: While down at Columbus, Parker Messik has certainly put together
Speaker 2: some solid numbers on the mound in that starting rotation.
Speaker 2: He's one of the organization's top pitching prospects. Jayalen Norman
Speaker 2: is our correspondent in the minor leagues and she was
Speaker 2: in Columbus and she had a chance to sit down
Speaker 2: with Parker Messick before a recent game.
Speaker 15: Parker, you've started the season off here in Columbus, So
Speaker 15: first off, how do you just kind of describe what
Speaker 15: it's like being here in Columbus, kicking off the season
Speaker 15: here and being a part of this team.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's been really cool. I didn't really know where
Speaker 16: I was going to start leaving spring training. I was
Speaker 16: a minor league camp and he didn't know if I
Speaker 16: was going to be a double or triplay guy. That
Speaker 16: was kind of out in the air based on how
Speaker 16: I performed.
Speaker 4: So he got lucky enough.
Speaker 5: To start here in Columbus. And team's great, coaches.
Speaker 16: Great, all the guys are great. I mean, there's a
Speaker 16: lot of fun and the city's really cool. So it's
Speaker 16: just been just been a blasbeing here.
Speaker 15: What's your favorite Columbus thing so far? Because I've heard
Speaker 15: the restaurants are good, they're good shops.
Speaker 5: What do you so far like the most.
Speaker 15: About won this?
Speaker 5: Honestly the fans, like with every game that.
Speaker 16: We have, even like kind of rainy games like Tuesday
Speaker 16: time and it'll be packed to night. So it's it's
Speaker 16: cool that every time you come to a game there's
Speaker 16: fans in the stand. It makes it worth it makes
Speaker 16: it fun playing at home.
Speaker 8: I think.
Speaker 16: So for other than all the you know, cool restaurants,
Speaker 16: school city, that's probably.
Speaker 15: My favorite part in each level, I know brings a
Speaker 15: different set of challenges. Obviously there's something new that you're
Speaker 15: learning about yourself, something new that.
Speaker 5: You're seeing at each level.
Speaker 15: How do you describe the way Triple A ball is
Speaker 15: different from the.
Speaker 5: Other levels you played. Yeah, a lot of the guys
Speaker 5: in Triple A are are you know, one call away
Speaker 5: from the big league.
Speaker 16: So these are the guys that have big league time
Speaker 16: or a guy like you know, Vincer has spent a
Speaker 16: lot of time in the big leagues.
Speaker 5: Like they're they're just all different.
Speaker 16: Kinds of guys that are messed together and you know,
Speaker 16: I'm twenty four playing with some of the older guys,
Speaker 16: So it's just really cool to see like young guys
Speaker 16: playing against older guys and the different experience levels, and
Speaker 16: you know, I get to learn from a guy like
Speaker 16: Vince and then there's still some things that I have
Speaker 16: to challenge myself with with those kind of guys on the.
Speaker 5: Field, like those sort of veteran hitters. So it's cool
Speaker 5: to see.
Speaker 16: Like how I match up versus order veteran hitters that
Speaker 16: you know, I've had time in the Big League, so.
Speaker 5: It's it's been a challenge, but it's been a lot
Speaker 5: of fun.
Speaker 15: Yeah, watching you play, I can see that you're a
Speaker 15: very energetic player.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where does that come from? I kind of always
Speaker 5: pitch like that. I was like a multi sport.
Speaker 16: Athlete, you know, in high school growing up as a kid,
Speaker 16: I never I wasn't one of those guys that played
Speaker 16: baseball year round, every every season. With baseball, I played.
Speaker 16: I played every sport. I played football, basketball, soccer. So
Speaker 16: I just learned to compete at a young age.
Speaker 5: Even with my.
Speaker 16: Dad fishing, we like keep score on how many fish
Speaker 16: we catch, So I just always compete.
Speaker 5: So when I'm on the mound. It's just like another
Speaker 5: thing that I'm competing against.
Speaker 16: I just want to I want to yell when I
Speaker 16: start someone out, and you know, I'm a little mad
Speaker 16: when I give up a run.
Speaker 5: But it's part of the game and it's what makes
Speaker 5: it fun.
Speaker 15: How have you learned to kind of manage that so
Speaker 15: that you're still being energetic, still showing that emotion, but
Speaker 15: also staying focused and kind of keeping your pool while you're.
Speaker 14: On the mound.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 16: I've always called it a controlled anger since college. I
Speaker 16: think all the broadcasters found that funny when I phrase
Speaker 16: it that way in some of the eight CC Network podcasts.
Speaker 16: But it's just, you know, you can you can ever
Speaker 16: be too happy or too mad. You can't ride the
Speaker 16: lows or ride the highs. Like when I give up
Speaker 16: a home run, you know I can't throw it. You
Speaker 16: can't throw a temper tantrument on the mound. The same
Speaker 16: way when you strike one guy out, you can't you know,
Speaker 16: come in slam your glove all fired up.
Speaker 14: Like.
Speaker 16: You just have to control different levels of the game.
Speaker 16: If you're in a big spot and you get yourself
Speaker 16: out of a jam, that's when you can show a
Speaker 16: little positive emotion, and you know, you try and really
Speaker 16: keep the negative emotion off the field. And that comes
Speaker 16: with just experience and trial and error, and you know
Speaker 16: there's there's people here that you're trying to make an
Speaker 16: impression on and you don't want that impression to be
Speaker 16: negative at any point in time. So you really got
Speaker 16: to control your your emotions, your anger, even when it's positive,
Speaker 16: like you have to harness that so that way.
Speaker 5: You're still ready to go for the next sending, even
Speaker 5: though you got yourself out of a big gym.
Speaker 16: So yeah, I want to pitch with emotion as much
Speaker 16: as I can, but I wanted to be in the
Speaker 16: right spots.
Speaker 15: Earlier, you mentioned fishing with your dad, and it's interesting
Speaker 15: that you bring that up because I was actually an
Speaker 15: accron last week and someone was talking about how they
Speaker 15: met your dad and he was so excited to introduce
Speaker 15: himself as Parker Messe's dad. So can you talk about
Speaker 15: the support that you've gotten from your family, in particular
Speaker 15: your dad and what that's meant to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it beats the world theirs. They come quite often
Speaker 5: to a.
Speaker 16: Lot of names, and you know, I have a support
Speaker 16: system that goes from a small town. It goes all
Speaker 16: the way into the route to that small town. Everyone
Speaker 16: that I played little league baseball with so keeps up
Speaker 16: with me. My dad enjoys it because, you know, he
Speaker 16: gets to communicate, Like he'll have people semester him on
Speaker 16: Facebook that we haven't talked to in twenty years that
Speaker 16: they've been following me in my entire career, and it's like,
Speaker 16: you just don't hear from those people. But it's cool
Speaker 16: to see that just from all those connections and the
Speaker 16: family connections, that it's created those avenues for people to
Speaker 16: you know, watch the game, watch me, and it's just
Speaker 16: really cool for.
Speaker 5: Me that I have a whole town and a whole
Speaker 5: family supporting me, and.
Speaker 16: It just gets bigger and bigger the more that I play.
Speaker 2: That is Parker Messica certainly a name to keep an
Speaker 2: eye on as we get closer to the tail end
Speaker 2: of this season, it gets deeper into the second half,
Speaker 2: and certainly we'll be on the radar next spring to
Speaker 2: be sure, but still on the radar now and a
Speaker 2: name that there's watching. We'll take another time out and
Speaker 2: then come back with another edition of at the Ballpark
Speaker 2: with Bobby d.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, It's Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you
Speaker 2: from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland, where the Guardians are
Speaker 2: playing the Tigers this weekend. We always like to check
Speaker 2: in with Bobby d from time to time, Guardians Senior
Speaker 2: Vice President Bob D Biassio. And here's another edition of
Speaker 2: At the Ballpark with Bobby D.
Speaker 1: The perfectly manicured fields, the unmistakable aroma of a ballpark
Speaker 1: hot dog, and the electricity celebrating another victory. This is
Speaker 1: at the Ballpark with Bobby D.
Speaker 13: Thank you, Hammy.
Speaker 17: Welcome to at the Ballpark, where we hope you enjoy
Speaker 17: our conversations with those involved in the great game of baseball.
Speaker 13: Those who may be behind.
Speaker 17: The scenes are the colorful personalities who have provided so
Speaker 17: many exciting moments and memories. Today we are joined by
Speaker 17: one of the winningest pitchers in franchise history, a first
Speaker 17: round draft pick, a member of Team USA, and the
Speaker 17: Guardians Hall of Fame, mister Charlie Naggy. Thank you Chuck
Speaker 17: for being with us. Catch us up on the family
Speaker 17: these days.
Speaker 18: The family's good kids are out of the house. Oldest
Speaker 18: twenty five living in San Francisco, and our youngest is
Speaker 18: she's a junior at Baylor University.
Speaker 13: Empty nesters, unbelievable.
Speaker 17: Have to believe consistency is what you are most proud
Speaker 17: of in your thirteen year career. Wearing that Cleveland uniform.
Speaker 17: You make your major league debut in nineteen ninety, you
Speaker 17: become a seventeen game winner in ninety two to an
Speaker 17: all start, tossing two hundred and fifty innings.
Speaker 13: That's a pretty cool way to start your career.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 18: It was a rapid minor league career. Got drafted boom
Speaker 18: the Olympics Kinston, North Carolina, and then the following year
Speaker 18: Campton and getting called up to the big leagues.
Speaker 4: And it was just a great moment.
Speaker 17: And it wasn't that easy starting your career in college,
Speaker 17: right You went to Cornell, You went there to play
Speaker 17: football and baseball, and then there was an issue.
Speaker 13: Then you move on to the University of Connecticut.
Speaker 17: Tell us a little bit about that, so kids out
Speaker 17: there understand that everybody has obstacles as they're trying to
Speaker 17: reach their dream.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I mean I was enamored with Cornell. I went there
Speaker 18: and it just didn't work out for me, whether I
Speaker 18: just wasn't ready for it or what not. But still
Speaker 18: went home and still kept in contact with coach Andy
Speaker 18: Bailock at the University of Connecticut.
Speaker 4: He was recruiting me also, and we made it work.
Speaker 18: I had to do some summer schools before I went there,
Speaker 18: and things went well, and I had two great years
Speaker 18: there at the University Connecticut. A lot of friends, played
Speaker 18: with great players, had a really good time. And then
Speaker 18: and everb we got drafted that year in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 17: Other than the nineteen ninety three season in which you
Speaker 17: suffered an injury, you only had nine starts that year.
Speaker 17: You rebound and enjoy a streak where you post double
Speaker 17: digit wins in eight of the next nine street seasons,
Speaker 17: again consistency. You start the last game at Cleveland Stadium. Ever,
Speaker 17: I think Jason Burray became a friend, right, and that's who.
Speaker 13: Was pitching for the White Sox.
Speaker 17: You and Jason's were the starting two for the last
Speaker 17: baseball game ever at Cleveland Stadium. So you pitch that
Speaker 17: game coming off an injury. But then you don't miss
Speaker 17: a start again until sometime after eleven starts in the
Speaker 17: year two thousand.
Speaker 13: That's a remarkable streak.
Speaker 18: You know, I mean, that's what you strive for every year.
Speaker 18: I remember Johnny Ferroll my first spring training sat down
Speaker 18: next to me after a spring training game and we
Speaker 18: were just talking.
Speaker 4: A little bit and he was just you know.
Speaker 18: Hey, this is these are goals you should shoot for,
Speaker 18: you know, make all your starts throw over two hundred
Speaker 18: innings a year, and I mean, those are the benchmarks
Speaker 18: that every pitcher should look for. And you know that's
Speaker 18: after hearing that from him. You know, that's what I
Speaker 18: strive to do, year in year out. And you know
Speaker 18: there were probably some times I probably shouldn't have taken
Speaker 18: the ball, but you know, oh well, you know, but
Speaker 18: I just you know, you work hard and you want
Speaker 18: to get that ball every fifth day and give your
Speaker 18: team a chance to win.
Speaker 17: You were a three time All Star, including nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 13: What was it like pitching on that team? That team
Speaker 13: is the only team.
Speaker 17: In our franchise history to score more than a thousand runs.
Speaker 17: I believe the ninety four team, if the season wasn't
Speaker 17: averted and had stopped in August, that club probably was
Speaker 17: on pace to score one thousand runs. But the ninety
Speaker 17: nine club, where Manly had one hundred and six rebies,
Speaker 17: Robbie was just going crazy doing his thing. And of
Speaker 17: course Jimmy Toldy being Jimmy.
Speaker 13: Of course, what was it like pitching for that ball club?
Speaker 18: It was like every other ball club we had There
Speaker 18: I mean, we were just known for our offense, you know,
Speaker 18: scoring runs. If you go out and you know, you
Speaker 18: give up a few runs in the first standing, as
Speaker 18: long as you hang in the game long enough, you've
Speaker 18: got a chance to win this game.
Speaker 4: Still.
Speaker 18: And you know, you say the ninety four team, and
Speaker 18: you know, you could actually argue the ninety five team too,
Speaker 18: because it was one hundred and forty four games and
Speaker 18: we still had a few obviously twenty some games that
Speaker 18: we didn't play well.
Speaker 17: That team was remarkable to me. You guys clinched a
Speaker 17: division on September eighth, you end up winning the division
Speaker 17: by thirty games.
Speaker 13: I mean, just people don't.
Speaker 17: Understand one hundred and forty four game season. We're one
Speaker 17: hundred and forty four, we win by thirty games, which
Speaker 17: is ridiculous. You guys came to the park and the
Speaker 17: attitude was once we clinched on September eight, was let's
Speaker 17: get to one hundred.
Speaker 18: Yeah, we had to set a goal after that and
Speaker 18: it was just to continue on winning and getting ready
Speaker 18: for the postseason. And yeah, we came to win every game.
Speaker 18: And I know everybody who who came to the other teams,
Speaker 18: who came into Jacob's Field, and those years just didn't
Speaker 18: want to be there. They didn't want to the pitchers
Speaker 18: didn't want to face our lineup.
Speaker 17: Let's focus a little bit on one thing that I
Speaker 17: think is remarkable in your career. There were two occasions
Speaker 17: in our franchise history where we brought back thirty to
Speaker 17: forty of our most illustrious alumni. One was the closing
Speaker 17: of Cleveland Stadium October third of nineteen ninety three, and
Speaker 17: then on July twenty first, two thousand and one, where
Speaker 17: we celebrated our one hundredth anniversary. You were on the
Speaker 17: mound for both of those games, so you had to
Speaker 17: pitch in front of that crew. So let's talk about
Speaker 17: the May third. You're coming off an injury. But for
Speaker 17: people that may not remember, we closed Cleveland Stadium with
Speaker 17: Bob Hope after the game doing a rendition of thanks
Speaker 17: for the memories at Cleveland Stadium and dotted around the
Speaker 17: field the greats at third base is like the Al
Speaker 17: Rosens and out and right field Rocky Colavito, and you
Speaker 17: got all the great pitchers circling pitchers mound, and there's
Speaker 17: players dotted all around the field and they're in the
Speaker 17: loses watching you perform. Did that sink in that all
Speaker 17: those eyes were on you?
Speaker 4: Not so much at that time.
Speaker 18: Initially, I was just concentrating on the game because it
Speaker 18: was my first start coming back, and you know, just
Speaker 18: hoping everything would go well so I could, you know,
Speaker 18: peace of mind for the offseason and going into the
Speaker 18: next season. But then it started to hit me a
Speaker 18: little bit when you know, you see all the great
Speaker 18: players that are here and Bob Hope getting ready to
Speaker 18: sing after the game. I really don't even remember the
Speaker 18: outcome of the game.
Speaker 13: We lost, unfortunately.
Speaker 17: I think Mark Lewis struck out as the final out
Speaker 17: in Cleveland Stadium baseball history for our franchise.
Speaker 13: I think that's stuck in my head.
Speaker 17: But again, you, j and Jason Barray were the two
Speaker 17: starters to become friends, both in Cleveland uniforms. But you
Speaker 17: were coming off an injury, so you but that started
Speaker 17: your streak. As we talked in segment one about your
Speaker 17: incredible consistency. But what do you think about that old
Speaker 17: cavernous place on the lake.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 18: You know, it's my first place being called up to,
Speaker 18: and I love that stadium. It was a great place
Speaker 18: to pitch had a good backdrop. You know, it was
Speaker 18: an older team when I got there, and then it
Speaker 18: kind of changed as people saw trade a lot of
Speaker 18: guys away and then we went young and just everybody
Speaker 18: was gearing up for the next night, you know, for
Speaker 18: the ninety four season and the new stadium that was
Speaker 18: being built.
Speaker 4: But it was sold out that day.
Speaker 18: We had a few sellouts throughout the season. Was opening
Speaker 18: day July fourth, and the final week, final week in
Speaker 18: all three games. And just also you know, to be
Speaker 18: pictured on the tickets with mel Harder, So I get
Speaker 18: that a lot. I get them in the mail, I
Speaker 18: get them when I go back to Cleveland or just
Speaker 18: random people and just want them signed and talking about
Speaker 18: that day when we broke round for Jacobs Field and
Speaker 18: it was just a that was That's a memory in
Speaker 18: my mind that I'll never forget.
Speaker 17: The other one is July twenty first, two thousand and one,
Speaker 17: our one hundredth anniversary. There's forty plus members of the
Speaker 17: top one hundred roster dotted by some of the greatest
Speaker 17: pitchers in the history of our franchise, of course, and
Speaker 17: you're starting that game as well.
Speaker 13: Tell me all about that day.
Speaker 18: It was a fun day. I mean, I've got to
Speaker 18: know a lot of those guys that were there. I mean,
Speaker 18: they've been around before, and I'd been around for a
Speaker 18: while and it was great to see everybody that was there.
Speaker 18: But and you know, I still had to remember that
Speaker 18: I was pitching. And I remember we talked about taking
Speaker 18: that photo when I was walking in after I warmed
Speaker 18: up from the bullpen and getting in the photo. And
Speaker 18: I didn't know how long it was going to take
Speaker 18: or anything like that. I really didn't care at the time,
Speaker 18: but you know, we did that. We took the photo,
Speaker 18: and you know, everybody pat me on the back, you know, hey,
Speaker 18: go get him, go get him, And I'm like, oh god,
Speaker 18: I better pitch.
Speaker 17: Well today, that's not exactly the words you used to be,
Speaker 17: but it was something like that.
Speaker 13: But yeah, I could not let you not be in
Speaker 13: that photo.
Speaker 17: I didn't want it to be like a kindergarten homeroom
Speaker 17: picture with a little thumbnail in the corner that Chuck
Speaker 17: was there, but he was pitching that day. You had
Speaker 17: to be in that photo. So when we took it,
Speaker 17: but guys like Bob Feller and Louis Tiant and Lenny
Speaker 17: Barker Sonny Sebert mel Haarder, and Mud, Gary Bell, Sam McDowell.
Speaker 17: They all came up to Charlie, patted him on the back,
Speaker 17: said hey, we're really looking forward to see in your
Speaker 17: throw today.
Speaker 13: Go get them.
Speaker 17: And you and I just had a nice little conversation
Speaker 17: as we walked to the dugout about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, about hey, don't screw this up.
Speaker 13: But you won that game.
Speaker 17: You pitched great, you got into I believe it was
Speaker 17: through the seventh inning and we ended up winning that one.
Speaker 17: So two of the most remarkable days in our history
Speaker 17: as we celebrated our rich history, and you're on the
Speaker 17: mound for both of them. I just think those are
Speaker 17: the really cool things that fall in line in the
Speaker 17: game of baseball. Chuck, it's been a blast catching up.
Speaker 17: Many thanks, and we hope you enjoyed this trip down
Speaker 17: memory lane. We look forward to another edition of at
Speaker 17: the Ballpark on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network.
Speaker 2: God it's going to do it for this week's edition
Speaker 2: of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks to Brian Botsey for
Speaker 2: putting together our show each and ever. We will join
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Speaker 2: We're going back now to play the White Sox next
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