WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:04.799 All right, So to get to four o'clock hours started it, 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:07.759 We'll pick up where we left off, just because I'm curious, 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:09.839 And it's not like I'm trying to open up the 4 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:12.320 phone lines and make this a big, long conversation, but 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:14.720 it would be I don't know what I would do 6 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:16.719 if I was in the position that Kentucky fans are 7 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:19.359 in in the NBA in the NBA Western Conference Finals, 8 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:24.760 with Shay Gilders Alexander being, you know, the MVP front runner, 9 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:28.879 really likable guy, but his NBA career, he's one of 10 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.079 the guys. And there's not just one, but there's many. 11 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.479 I feel like that they were good at Kentucky, but 12 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.799 they really kind of became a bigger deal in the 13 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:40.240 NBA than they even were in college. And that's certainly Shay. 14 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:42.359 In fact, Donovan Mitchell's that way. There are people who 15 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.240 think Donovan Mitchell, in my opinion, was actually a better 16 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:47.159 player at lower than he was. And Donovan was great. 17 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:49.679 It was the first team all accuither have not been 18 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:51.799 many of those. It's not like I'm saying he wasn't 19 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:54.560 a good player in college. But Donovan within like the 20 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.799 second or third year of being in the NBA was 21 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:01.119 already a more prominent player in the association than he 22 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:03.719 ever was in college. And that's credit to him. You know, 23 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:05.359 he got a lot better, took a gamble on himself. 24 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:06.840 There was no guarantee that he'd even be taken in 25 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:10.599 the first round, so Shay, he was good. But he 26 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.760 started for Kentucky like midway through the year. I think 27 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.159 Cal he went with the burger boy, Kwad A. Green, 28 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.680 who is a very easy guy to forget for Kentucky. 29 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:21.719 Right when you think of Kentucky basketball players that played 30 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.319 for Cal, nearly all of them seemingly were five star 31 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:27.480 McDonald's all Americans that you know that played there. But like 32 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:29.280 Kwad Green, he's got to be one of the guys 33 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:31.359 that you would just forget exists, right, I mean, where 34 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:32.640 did he I mean, where did he end up like 35 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:37.120 Washington or something. So Shay, I'm sure Kentucky fans love him, 36 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.040 but they didn't even get a hole, Like, they didn't 37 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.480 even really get a full year of him as the guy. 38 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:44.680 He became so good not to play a bunch And 39 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:46.799 then by the end of that season, I kind of 40 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:50.159 feel like he became their their best player, even ahead 41 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.400 of Kevin Knox, who I believe that was the year 42 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.359 he was kind of his team. So anyways, like if 43 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:58.680 you are a Kentucky fan, there's a way that you're like, well, 44 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:00.879 we can't lose, because if it's Shay and the Thunder 45 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.200 and they make the finals, then hell yeah. But if 46 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.239 it's Julius Randall, and even though he's not the franchise 47 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:10.759 player for the te Wolves, that's obviously Anthony Edwards, but 48 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.360 still Julius Randall's a really good player and last night 49 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:15.599 he was their best player. So I don't know, just 50 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.039 Louisville basketball, I don't know if this is something I 51 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:20.879 just have made up in my mind or if it's 52 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:25.039 actually legit, but I think for Louisville to be a 53 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:29.319 program that has always, for the most part been in 54 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.919 the conversation as a top ten program. I mean, obviously 55 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:37.120 Denny really did that starting in the seventies when they 56 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.120 won the championship in eighty with Griff and then went 57 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:40.800 on to become the team of the eighties with such 58 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.560 a great run, and then even in the nineties not 59 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.840 as successful for Denny, but he still had some good 60 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.039 teams that made deep runs. And honestly, when you do 61 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.439 what you did in the late seventies and the eighties, 62 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.919 you're gonna still be benefiting from that well into the 63 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:56.560 next decade. And I think that was the case for 64 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.000 Louisville with Denny. I mean, Louisville was such a big brand, 65 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.919 and then when Rick go hired, obviously you were back 66 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:04.960 in the limelight and clarity. Louisll basketball had some very 67 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.199 successful seasons, multiple Final four as a national championship during 68 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:14.840 Rick's time. But as far as NBA representation is, they. 69 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:16.039 Is. 70 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.840 There many programs that have had such success at the 71 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.000 college level over multiple decades that really just never had 72 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.800 a lot of NBA representation. I mean, Griff obviously went 73 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:31.199 on to have a phenomenal pro career, and you can 74 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:32.919 go back to the late junior Bridgeman, who was a 75 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.360 phenomenal player obviously for the Bucks, who's got his number retired. 76 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:38.759 Some guys in the eighties clearly went on to have 77 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.560 good pro careers and whatnot, but you know guys who 78 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.759 were big time draft picks. I mean, I'm not going 79 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.560 to call him the word, the B word, but some would, 80 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:53.199 and I would understand why always defend Purvis, although I 81 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:54.840 don't feel the need to do it as much anymore 82 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.680 considering how everything played out with Kenny. And really it's 83 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.719 been clear Pervios Elison does not give a rat's ass 84 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.199 about Louisville. I mean he didn't have to say it. 85 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.159 He's shown that and that's been pretty clear, which is 86 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:07.560 really unfortunate. But I think we kind of learned that 87 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.120 over the years, and we certainly learned it the hard 88 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.319 way during the KP here. But nonetheless, like Purvis, he's 89 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.159 not a bust, but he was the number one pick, 90 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.639 and he played ten years and had a good career, 91 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.319 but never reached the level of like was he worthy 92 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.399 of being number one? And that's a tough thing to 93 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.439 live up to. And I always will say, if you 94 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:26.560 played ten years in the league, I don't care where 95 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.759 you're drafted, you're not a busted. But other guys that 96 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:36.879 were drafted either didn't last long at all or they 97 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.439 you know, played for a good chunk but really just 98 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:46.600 never never really were prominent, prominently featured with any team 99 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:50.120 in the NBA, Like, for example, I mean the late 100 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:55.160 Felton Spencer. He was drafted with the six pick overall. Felton. 101 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:57.439 I mean hard for me to say he didn't have 102 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.319 a good run. He played in the NBA for from 103 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.920 nineteen ninety to two thousand and two. If you play 104 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.120 in the NBA that long and your employer is the 105 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.600 National Basketball Association, who am I to say that you 106 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.800 weren't insanely successful? But obviously that's a very forgettable name. 107 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:17.519 To those who follow the NBA that don't keep up 108 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.319 with U of L. Right, Reece gains one of my 109 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.759 favorite players ever. Reese was taken in the top twenty picks. 110 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.360 Maybe what was Ree's taking? Let me look, Reese was 111 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.600 the fifteenth pick. I don't think he was in the 112 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:34.279 league more than four years. Francisco had a really really 113 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.759 good run in the league, and I kind of feel 114 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.000 like he played like Cisco was in the league from 115 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:44.319 two thousand and five to twenty and fifteen. He always 116 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.279 I mean, he played every year he played, he played 117 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:51.399 in more than fifteen minutes per game. His best season 118 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:54.639 came in two thousand and eight and then also in 119 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.079 two thousand and nine, where he averaged over twelve points. 120 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.600 So he had a good run, But you know he's not. 121 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.319 He's a when when you're doing a trivia game with 122 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.399 your boys about random NBA players he would come up 123 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:08.639 because he's you know, he might remember him, but he's 124 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.279 not somebody who had like a like, He's not Shay, 125 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.240 he's not Julius Randall. That just that just never materialized 126 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.439 for those guys. So cliff Rosier another guy, I mean, 127 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.920 he was taken with the sixteenth pick, and obviously it's 128 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.480 really sad. I've mentioned three guys that two specifically in 129 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:28.000 the you know that that have that have passed away 130 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:29.600 at such a young age, Felton Spencer being one, and 131 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.480 they now Clifford Rosier. But other guys taken in the 132 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.800 first round, Greg Minor, I mean, in fact I didn't 133 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.160 realize that, but Greg Miner's name was brought up quite 134 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:40.519 a bit during his early years in the NBA, but 135 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.319 not because of play, because of some other reasons. And 136 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.439 you can go look that up if you'd like. But 137 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:47.439 like Dewan Wheat, he was drafted in the second round, 138 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.560 fifty first pick. So you know, there's not really the 139 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:54.319 expectation that those guys would would have lengthy careers. But 140 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.600 here's here's a prime example. I mean Earl Clark and 141 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.680 Terrence Williams were both a lot of picks in the 142 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.040 same year and t Will. We know how that played out, 143 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:07.000 and I still can never be proven right or wrong, 144 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:11.040 so it's just my opinion. But I don't think talent 145 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.040 was ever the problem for Tea Will Ever. I actually 146 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:15.439 think he'd still be in the NBA if he wasn't 147 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.040 t Will. I mean, there's no nice way to say that. 148 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:26.240 And then Earl, it's always been my unpopular opinion because 149 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:29.920 I love Earl, love Earl everything about him, but like, 150 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:31.600 I never felt like he was going to be great 151 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.680 in the NBA and it turned out that he wasn't. 152 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:37.720 And I didn't plan on having a segment where I 153 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:39.920 basically just remind people that there's so many guys for 154 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.160 Louisville that have been drafted that didn't really pan out 155 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:43.920 in the NBA long term. But that's not my intention. 156 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.800 My intention is that Louisville basketball has had such success, 157 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.279 but yet the NBA representation has been there, but not 158 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:52.480 to the extent that maybe you would expect for other 159 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:57.279 programs that have the success that Louisville has had it. 160 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.399 And you know, in the last I guess the last 161 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:05.240 fifty years or something forty years roughly, so, Donovan being 162 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.240 one of the best players in the NBA certainly helped 163 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.360 that Terry Rozier is still a successful player and has 164 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.920 had a great run. I'm really surprised that Tres that 165 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:17.920 thing would run its course because I still believe Trez 166 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.079 was playing at a pretty high level whenever it kind 167 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:21.439 of came to an end, and he now has just 168 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.480 been I mean, he played in Australia this past year, 169 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.720 so you know, I've never been in that spot that 170 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:30.759 Kentucky fans are in, and I don't really know what 171 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.720 I would do because it would be hard for me. 172 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:36.559 Like when when Donovan was I was, I was not surprised, 173 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:41.519 but somewhat disappointed in Austin. I want to see if 174 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.600 you judge me on this, because I know you love 175 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:45.879 your pro teams. You're a big Vikings fan. That's your 176 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:51.799 squad right like you love So whenever Donovan and the 177 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.919 Cavs were playing the Pacers, I thought I might have like, Okay, 178 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:58.000 who cares what happens If a Pacers win? Great. If 179 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.600 Donovan gets to the Eastern Conference finals, then hell, And 180 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.879 there is an element to where if that happened, I 181 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:04.840 really couldn't lose because I would be all in for Donovan. 182 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.279 But in the moment, I was all pacers. It did 183 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.399 not give a damn if the Cavs scored a point, right, 184 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.799 And I felt kind of like, Nick, that's mean you 185 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.120 love Donovan. You know Donovan. You know, he took a 186 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.159 picture with my kids last time I saw him, and he, 187 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.799 you know, he meant he said my name by name, 188 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.039 which made my kids think my son think that he 189 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:24.639 knows me, which he does. I mean, he knows of me, 190 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.320 I guess, but you know, like literally, Donna is a 191 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.840 great dude. Love Donovan, But when he was playing my pacers, 192 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:31.639 didn't care if he didn't score point, and I felt 193 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.720 wrong for doing that, But you know, it's one of 194 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.360 those positions you don't really know what you'd do until 195 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:37.879 you're in the moment, right right, Like if Lamar is 196 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.879 out there carving up your vikings, I think you're probably 197 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:44.279 not hating Lamar, but like you don't want that to happen, right, Yeah, exactly. 198 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:46.200 I'd say it's not my favorite thing in the world, 199 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.519 and that that would always be my doomsday super Bowl scenario, 200 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.320 as if the vikings somehow matched up with Lamar's or even. 201 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.240 And you could see it as a silver lining because 202 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.240 if you're going to lose to somebody in it. You know, 203 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:57.720 if it's going to be your guy, then you know 204 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.120 that's better than it better than it being some do 205 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:01.360 you hate. But at the end of the day, the 206 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.159 strongest emotion in that entire situation is what you want 207 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.080 for your team, which I think is is natural. Right, 208 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.120 Like you couldn't quit the Vikings he get tried, right. 209 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.120 Yeah, No, And overall I'd want the Vikings to win 210 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.480 at a gd super Bowl sometime before I die. 211 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:16.799 So they're they're in a good spot now. They just 212 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:18.799 need it needs to work out with McCarthy, I think so. 213 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.000 I think it is. They're not gonna get Rodgers, are they. 214 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.720 It depends do you want him to get Rogers? No? 215 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.399 No, okay, Although I think the Vikings would be the 216 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.519 best possible landing spot for someone like Aaron Rodgers. 217 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.279 Oh, of course, he knows what he wants and it's 218 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:34.639 not I mean, I think he also would like to 219 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.480 stick it to Green Bay one thousand percent. But also 220 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.919 he knows what he'd be working with in Minnesota. Uh huh. 221 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.200 He's an egotistical guy. I know he loves the thought 222 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.480 of chasing that. Brett Favre career arc going to the 223 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.360 rival having the best possible season of his life. He'd 224 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.480 be with the quarterback whisper, I still think and he's not. 225 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:54.879 I still think he's holding out. 226 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:56.120 The Vikings such a good roster. 227 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.840 I think they have one of the best young rosters 228 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:00.440 in the league. There's a few old people in. 229 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.879 The they're a well run organization. 230 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.519 Yes, because they've never been like I mean usually in 231 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.759 my time, they're always they usually have one good year, 232 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.000 then they fall off the next year, and then it's 233 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:13.720 never like consecutively. But they're not dumpster fire enough to 234 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:15.559 where like you're like, oh my god, what are they 235 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.759 doing over there? In Minnesota? They stay relevant and good 236 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.720 every few years. Just but at the end of the day, 237 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.519 it's it's Minnesota. There's a curse on that whole state. 238 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.480 And I want to get hyped up for the Timberwolves, 239 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:29.200 even though I really don't care for the t Wolves, 240 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.960 but like it's at the same time there it's. 241 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.440 Part of the culture. It's the Minnesota, Minnesota pro sports culture. 242 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:35.919 I get think. 243 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:40.159 I think they're the longest like big city to not 244 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:44.440 have any championships. And even the Vikings are probably the 245 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:46.240 best team in the NFL to never won a. 246 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.440 Champion, and because of that, I find myself kind of like, hey, 247 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.360 how about it, man, let's like you being a Vikings fan. 248 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.240 I also have another close friend who's a Vikings fans, right, 249 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.759 and that you know, I want to I like to 250 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.679 see it. It's kind of like with the Bengals. I 251 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.120 don't like the Bengals. I don't dislike them, but when 252 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.840 they do have success, it doesn't bother me in any way. 253 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:07.440 And in fact, I'm like, okay, cool, because then I 254 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.240 don't give me hope because I know my boys are happy, 255 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:10.840 you know what I'm saying, because they're big Bengals fans, and. 256 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.159 They because there's a lot of friends yeah that they 257 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.960 know you're they they're ready to clown on you. 258 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.559 And I don't like, I don't love. I've never I've 259 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:18.960 never done that. 260 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:20.960 I know, a resweet or something, but I'm never gonna 261 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.279 like in their face like, yeah no here because your 262 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:24.200 team lost bluddy. 263 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.519 Yeah that's I mean again, But that's that's a big 264 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.840 part of sports, sports culture. I think for dudes, I 265 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.120 just it's not my nature because like, I wouldn't want 266 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:32.600 that done to me, so I wouldn't do that to 267 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:37.480 somebody else, But overall, like the Vikings, I kind of 268 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.679 pull for them more often than not. But I will 269 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.120 tell you this straight up, just so we don't have 270 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:44.200 any weird energy. If Rogers is your quarterback, I'm not 271 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:45.879 wanting them to win because. 272 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:47.559 I wouldn't be able to because I don't like him, 273 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:49.320 and I don't know how I wouldn't feel about it. 274 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:51.279 Oh you you'd have to embrace him. I wouldn't, and 275 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.039 I wouldn't blame you. I was your team, you know. 276 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.440 At least Brett Farv I mean, I know Brett Farve's 277 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.200 had his his. 278 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.159 His him, and Percy Harbin would have run. 279 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:03.480 Affairs him, Percy Arvin, Sidney, Rice Nasante, Shanko, that whole. 280 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:06.200 There's still a bad taste in my mouth for the Saints, 281 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.639 and recently it's translated to the Eagles because we can't 282 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:12.120 beat the Eagles in the playoffs. But there's at least 283 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.960 Brett Favre was kind of liked back then, whereon Rodgers 284 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.360 he seems to have burned his bridges. I do think 285 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.600 one hundred percent they're waiting to see how McCarthy is, 286 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.440 and he's waiting to get the if they're not one 287 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:26.919 hundred percent sure about JJ McCarthy being the starting quarterback, 288 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:29.159 then they're going to bring in Aaron Rodgers and he's 289 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.519 just you think he really needs to go to mandatory 290 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.159 OTAs or he needs to go to training camp. He's 291 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.159 at this point in his life where he he's not 292 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.519 going to commit to a team. Now. 293 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.159 When ever he does, it's going to be two weeks 294 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:44.080 before the Season's best thing for Jay. The most likelihood 295 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.159 of it working out with JJ McCarthy as you just 296 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.399 making him the guy and not I mean, I think 297 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:51.480 who's to say it would for sure stun his growth. 298 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:53.879 But I feel like in this position, you let you 299 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.720 let what's his name go because you felt good about McCarthy, 300 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.000 And then if you decide to bring in Rodgers again 301 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.120 and it's not the optics wouldn't be terrible because again 302 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.480 it's Rogers. But at the same point in time, like 303 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:05.919 if he was your guy, you wouldn't do that, you 304 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.320 know what I mean, Like it's you could maybe, well, 305 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:09.720 we were gonna get him a little more time to 306 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.639 get settled in he's still getting healthy. But like nobody 307 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.240 would believe that it would be it would be very 308 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.720 much a and this may not even be the case, 309 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:19.360 but everybody would see this is that you actually don't 310 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.519 think you have you know, how we thought you had 311 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:24.679 it McCarthy, right, even if that's not legit, even if 312 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.120 that's not fair, they would have to understand that that 313 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:29.399 would be the optics of it. Kind of like when 314 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.919 Pennix was drafted by the Falcons, say what they want. 315 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.200 The Falcons knew they didn't really have what they wanted 316 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.879 in kirk Cousins, right like they you know, he hadn't 317 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.200 played it down yet for him, had he No? Yeah, 318 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.960 so they'd had him, he'd been around, and they still 319 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:47.159 drafted who they drafted, and it played out the way 320 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.840 that they I mean, who knows what Pennix ends up doing, 321 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.960 but I mean like they they kind of showed their 322 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.279 hand and then we saw there and we saw, you know, 323 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:57.240 they teased us a little bit as far as what 324 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:58.799 they were thinking. And then sure enough it played out 325 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:00.480 tho way. And obviously kirk Cousins got her, But even 326 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:03.159 before that, he wasn't he wouldn't do it anything special. 327 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.879 But Rogers is, let me put it this way. With Rogers, 328 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.759 I don't like him at all, really haven't ever but 329 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.440 I also think he's insanely good. Now he hasn't shown 330 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:15.559 that recently. I mean, the end in Green Bay wasn't great, 331 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.600 and honestly, in New York they were better without him. 332 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:21.279 I mean there's a lot of variables in play there 333 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:23.039 as far as what led to them, but they had 334 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:27.360 a less successful football team when he was their starting 335 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:29.639 quarterback compared to whenever he was there and hurt. Like, 336 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.159 that's just that's that's the facts. That doesn't mean that 337 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:33.879 it's all his fault, but that's that's the way it 338 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.279 played out. But Rogers is an unrespectable villain because he 339 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.320 doesn't believe he's like Draymond Green. I hate Draymond Green, 340 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.879 but I respect him because he's a good villain. Yeah, 341 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:51.720 he's fine with you hating him. He you know, for 342 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.440 the most part, doesn't play victim, although he actually did 343 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.080 recently about you know, being angry or whatever. But like 344 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.120 he doesn't. He's not surprised that people hate him. He 345 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:04.720 wears it. He is who he is, and you know, 346 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.440 he's a good villain. Rogers is a fake villain. He 347 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.000 doesn't think he should be. He acts as if he 348 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:13.840 doesn't care what people think. But every single thing he 349 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:17.399 does in his life is for attention. Yeah, everything absolutely 350 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:20.279 the nonchalant I'm just hanging out in the woods. You 351 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:24.440 do that for attention? Self centered? Yeah, like you have 352 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:28.679 alienated yourself or they've alienated themselves from you, meaning his family. 353 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:30.960 I don't really know the specifics of what played out there, 354 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.559 but like, to me, he's a sociopath. Like that's a 355 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:36.679 strong word to say, considering I've never met the man, 356 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.480 but like Rogers plays off like I don't see what 357 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.240 the big deal is. I don't know why people are 358 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:43.639 you know, I don't know what, but like he has 359 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:47.639 such a I'm actually just on a different level intellectually 360 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.759 than anybody else, So you guys just can't relate. I'm 361 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:53.720 just I'm in a different space. And like maybe he 362 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:56.039 really is a hippieess from California, so maybe that does 363 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.559 check out. But to me, he is the most insecure 364 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:02.960 all always knowing what people say about him. He does 365 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.680 things to get them to say things about him, and 366 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:09.799 then he plays like was everybody like I don't get it, Like, no, weird, 367 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.799 do you know what you're doing? You idiot? Like I 368 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:14.880 can't stand him. So again, I'm just letting you know 369 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:17.319 I'm anti Vikings. If he's the quarterbacks, I wouldn't. I 370 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.319 wouldn't factor in. I wouldn't I wouldn't completely factor out him. 371 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.480 Joining if something happens and McCarthy isn't, isn't the guy. 372 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.000 But I am a staunch JJ McCarthy believer. I thought 373 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:28.920 that he was a second best yer have. I will say, 374 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:30.440 if it works out, I will be able to vouch 375 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:32.079 that you were a Day one guy that believed that 376 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:33.799 he was the guy they should have drafted. And you 377 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.440 believe he is the guy that even when, even when 378 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.319 what's his name Darnold was lighting it up and looked 379 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:41.720 like he was an MVP candidate, you still believe that 380 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.240 the next year should be McCarthy was always it was 381 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:45.079 always mcarthy. 382 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.960 It's always JJ. He was always j JJ to JJ 383 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.519 is something I've always imagined. The kids won at every 384 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.880 single level he's been at. I mean, I guess you 385 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.119 could say that handoff merchant, the Jim Harball merchant, but 386 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.319 Jim Harball is first of all, damn good coach. It's 387 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:01.720 one in the NFL, and he's one in college football too. 388 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.480 Whatever whatever the video thing is last year, I don't 389 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.880 really understand with the whole cheating thing, but like JJ 390 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.079 McCarthy was the quarterback of the best Michigan team that 391 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:12.880 they probably ever had, and. 392 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.480 I think it. I think Harball is a phenomenal coach. 393 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:17.839 I think I think the Charters are gonna be good 394 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:19.799 this year. And I don't really love Justin Herbert, but 395 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.079 I think that they're going the way that he runs 396 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.960 a football team. JJ, Jim Harbaugh is is one heck 397 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.279 of a coach. He is and everything just kind of 398 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:30.200 tailed off with him. 399 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:31.799 And and he was always a better fit in the 400 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:33.799 NFL than in college. But he just wanted to go 401 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.359