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<v Speaker 1>It's Nights with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Boston Radio with Steve Rowland. Here we are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the only story that really we can talk about tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the horrific DC plane crash that took

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<v Speaker 2>the lives of some sixty seven people. I think everyone

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<v Speaker 2>knows the story at this point. We hear in New

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<v Speaker 2>England field it particularly because at least six of the

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<v Speaker 2>passengers were from New England. They were involved in a

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<v Speaker 2>skating development camp out in Kansas, also some competition out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and two young skaters, sixteen year old Spencer Lane of Barrington,

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<v Speaker 2>Rhode Island and thirteen year old Ginahan of Mansfield, and

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<v Speaker 2>their moms, Christine Lane and Ginhan perished in this senseless tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Also their coaches and Genia and Vadim Nimov Nimov who

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<v Speaker 2>won the world championship in nineteen ninety four, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were on their way back from what's called the national

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<v Speaker 2>development camp in which you could talk Kansas when the

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<v Speaker 2>collision occurred last night. There's a story today that The

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times has sourced which says that there was

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<v Speaker 2>only one controller on duty, handling both the helicopter, the

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<v Speaker 2>military helicopter and the plane that was coming in. Look

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<v Speaker 2>you considered an airport. You watched these planes land every

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds. Maybe it's time to space them out more.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's time to pull some flights down. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to make it less convenient for Americans. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>we could save lives, maybe we need more shorter flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we need more connecting flights. There has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a better way to do it than to have something

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<v Speaker 2>like this happen. I just think that air traffic travel

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<v Speaker 2>air travel has become like bus travel. You see people

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<v Speaker 2>get on planes and they're bringing or they bring in

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<v Speaker 2>Duffel bags. I mean, you know, they maybe, somehow, some way,

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<v Speaker 2>the airlines and the passenger organizations can get together give

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<v Speaker 2>people a little bit more room, maybe not cram people

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<v Speaker 2>in as tightly as they do. Flying coach is miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>miserable for the most part, whether you're in the window

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<v Speaker 2>seat or the or the middle seat. They don't make

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<v Speaker 2>it fun. They've cut back on every creature comfort. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're knock. Can fly across the country and there's no

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<v Speaker 2>meal service. I just I don't know. I'm not an expert,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an economist in air travel, but there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a better way to doing that. The public's

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<v Speaker 2>not happy. You get to airports now, and unless you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to the kiosk, you'll have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>in line. Sometimes you have to wait in line at

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<v Speaker 2>the kiosks. They have cut back, cut back, cut back,

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<v Speaker 2>And if they've cut back on the public facing personnel

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<v Speaker 2>at the counter, then you know that they've also cut

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<v Speaker 2>back in other areas. And again it comes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the being counters. The being counters are the people who

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<v Speaker 2>who will ruin this country, and ruin this economy, and

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<v Speaker 2>ruin great cooperations in this company, in this country. Six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven two four ten thirty. Those lines are full.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one line at six one seven nine three one

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Let me get to Chuck in Georgia, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate your patience. I didn't want to short

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<v Speaker 2>change the last hour. Your next your first is our

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<v Speaker 2>night side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? You know? Pretty good? I mean I I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is an unnecessary tragedy. I I this

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<v Speaker 2>is a big story up here tonight, Chuck. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big story in Georgia. But you lost some

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<v Speaker 2>some amazing young people and athletes on that flight last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're right, and you know it's it's for the

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<v Speaker 3>being counters. It's always volume, you know, the quicker you

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<v Speaker 3>can get them in, quicker you can get them out,

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<v Speaker 3>and so forth. And I'm I'm not so sure that's

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<v Speaker 3>the reason for this problem. But I know that the

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<v Speaker 3>tower actually got a hold of the helicopter and it

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<v Speaker 3>was on a retraining flight. I mean, to bring every

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<v Speaker 3>all the pilots up to snuff, I'm sure, But I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if they were supposed to be wearing night goggles.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's standard operating procedure for the military and helicopters.

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<v Speaker 2>And why wouldn't they We'll never know. Will We're never

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<v Speaker 2>going to know. I don't think so. Well. My question

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<v Speaker 2>is why were they at three hundred and fifty feet?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard today on several news horses that these helicopters

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<v Speaker 2>who are functioning in that area. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>they have to function in that area specifically, but if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were in the standard flight path too, yeah, why, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what they're talking about. It Are they worried

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<v Speaker 2>about people attacking the Pentagon? I but let's assume that

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<v Speaker 2>it's necessary. Well, could they not do it maybe at

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<v Speaker 2>a time in the in the in the early morning

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<v Speaker 2>hours when there were fewer planes landing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just yes. And why are they in

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<v Speaker 3>the standard flight carridor for these planes? You know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a big sky out there. I don't know why they're

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<v Speaker 3>in that carridor, but they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the other thing is they're supposed to win. They're

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<v Speaker 2>in that corridor. The news reports, I saw it that

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<v Speaker 2>they said they have to stay at or below two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred feet and the collision occurreded three hundred and fifty feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, pre training, Dan, I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen a jet in Arizona a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on a training mission, went down in the desert.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen a number of things happen in these retraining things.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that one was out of I think at

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Air Force Base outside of Phoenix. If I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 2>I recall that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be a mechanical failure, that could be all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, it could.

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<v Speaker 3>Have it could have been. But this one here is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be human error. I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Question and question.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And as for the uh, the tower, it's I

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<v Speaker 3>read up and it's okay for one person to be

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<v Speaker 3>handling two uh, helicopters, planes, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that sh Let me say this, Chuck, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that I can handle two callers simultaneously. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just a talk show host. I mean, I'm talking to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a conversation goal with you. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's assume we had Karen from Wisconsin on and sake, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 2>let me talk to Karen. Karen, what do you think? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me see what Chuck asked this. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're doing it in a way when you hang

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<v Speaker 3>up with me, you're going to talk to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So that they separate. If they're up there talking to

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<v Speaker 2>the helicopter and uh and the plane and the pilot

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<v Speaker 2>of the plane. Uh, that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Sound to me like a different frequencies, you know. So,

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<v Speaker 3>but I I hope to get they get to the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom of it very quick. I think they got the

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<v Speaker 3>box off the plane, and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Said they have the box off the off the plane,

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<v Speaker 2>not off the helicopter. Yet. The other thing is that

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<v Speaker 2>those those those military personnel did pretty good. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>flying around up there to to commit suicide. That pilot

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<v Speaker 2>has apparently was doing the right thing trying to come in,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just did. Someone was in the wrong place

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<v Speaker 2>at the wrong time, and well.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a retraining thing, and you never know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, uh, if the helicopter flew into the path of.

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<v Speaker 2>It yet, Yeah, I watched that tonight. It looked to

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<v Speaker 2>me like the jets coming in and the helicopter hit

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<v Speaker 2>it on the right side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 2>How could that be? I mean, how could you be

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<v Speaker 2>flying a helicopter. It looked it didn't look Last night

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<v Speaker 2>they were saying that maybe the plane had dropped dropped

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<v Speaker 2>down and had taken the helicopter out for the video. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like that plane's coming in and on the

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<v Speaker 2>right side of the plane, here comes the helicopter at

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<v Speaker 2>a perpendicular angle, you know, ninety degree angle.

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<v Speaker 3>The Blackhawks can fly, you know too, three hundred miles

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<v Speaker 3>an hour. So if they were going to full blast,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they you know, maybe they just couldn't get

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<v Speaker 3>out of the way in time. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I hope it never happens again. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of questions with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's get some answers.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of lives upset, Let's get some answers.

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<v Speaker 2>It changed, forever, changed, forever, Chuck is always thanks were

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<v Speaker 2>listening down there in the Peach Street State.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, good show, Dan, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Thanks very much, Chuck. That take a very quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>One line at six month seven two, five four or

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<v Speaker 2>one line at six months seven nine, three, one, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>We will talk about this until eleven o'clock. That's my goal.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, I'll be very disappointed if

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<v Speaker 2>if these lines don't remain full, because this is a

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<v Speaker 2>night that on North America's back porch. That's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the functions we have here. And the function that we

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<v Speaker 2>have here is to make you understand that the feelings

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<v Speaker 2>that you're feeling right now, the sadness, there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with that, and if you want to express it, you

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<v Speaker 2>are more than welcome. My name's Dan Ray. This is

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<v Speaker 2>night side. We do call it occasionally North America's back porch,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what it is. So step up on

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<v Speaker 2>the porch, tell us what you think. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be analytical and talk about the accident and the

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<v Speaker 2>logistics of the accident, fine, if you just want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk as a human being and realize that these I

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<v Speaker 2>mean lives have been these lives have been changed in aulterately.

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<v Speaker 2>They're never going back to where they were thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago. What a tragedy. Back on Night's Side after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, gonna move people a little bit more quickly for

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<v Speaker 2>the balance of this hour, So let's go to Stephen Bridgewater. Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a tough, tough twenty four hours here in

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<v Speaker 2>New England, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Yeah, Dan, I gotta tell you I was watching

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<v Speaker 6>the end of the Sean Hennity Show last night, unflocked it.

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<v Speaker 6>All of a sudden, I turn it on. I see

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<v Speaker 6>blinking lights all over the place, and I'm saying, what's

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<v Speaker 6>this to me? It's the plane with the plane crash there.

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<v Speaker 6>So I saw it minutes after it happened. I actually

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<v Speaker 6>saw footage of it happening. I gotta tell you, Dan,

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<v Speaker 6>from watching it. I'm no expert on the subject matter,

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<v Speaker 6>but I see the jet, the commercial jet, coming in

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<v Speaker 6>like it's in its approach area powder where we're supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to be nice to little dot come over from the

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<v Speaker 6>left side of the screen and it like crashes right

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<v Speaker 6>into it. I'm saying, wait, didn't they It was a

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<v Speaker 6>clear night, clear as glass, no flog, no nothing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 6>how could they not have seen the plane? Did they

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<v Speaker 6>see themselves going right into the aircraft? But the part

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<v Speaker 6>of it that doesn't make sense to me, well.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely doesn't make sense at all. And yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know those pilots or those those military personnel, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to kill themselves. They're up there trying to

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<v Speaker 2>complete their mission. But how could they have made that mistake?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everything that we see right now is that

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<v Speaker 2>the plane was on approach, was under control, and the

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<v Speaker 2>the Blackhawk was about one hundred and fifty feet higher

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't make sense. You'd think, I know, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>But I know, I know that's where you were leading.

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<v Speaker 2>But why But that makes no sense. I means there's

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<v Speaker 6>It looks that way. Yeah, looked that way because no.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, I don't think it actually happened, but

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Yeah, damn, Dan, can I can? I? Can I

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I talked about it earlier. I just talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it earlier. The New York Times it released. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>and the Flight Controller Union felt that the Reagan National

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<v Speaker 2>Airport should have thirty qualified full time air traffic controllers.

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<v Speaker 2>They had nineteen to cover all that's way below. That's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percent below. But both management and the union agreed

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<v Speaker 2>upon that's a problem. Go ahead, Jeffrey, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Why don't you add whatever you'd like to add.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So remember way back, I know that it's been

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<v Speaker 6>eighty one when Reagan took Powell took the troll became president.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, he fired the air traffic controllers because they

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the Pastor union, but maybe way back ending with

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<v Speaker 6>this problem has been going on for years. Let's find

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<v Speaker 6>that shortage of yeah, all over the country, not just

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's find out.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Steve, all right, Dan, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You welcome Tina and Moonsacket rhodeinan Tina, you were next

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Hello, Dan, I'm so glad. I Hi, sweetie, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>so glad I turned in today. I'm tuned in after

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<v Speaker 7>that gentleman just mentioned the air traffic controllers, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think they had every right to strike because who their voice,

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<v Speaker 7>they have to be heard. And I think that was

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<v Speaker 7>a terrible thing that Ronald Reagan did. And I feel

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<v Speaker 7>very upset about this, and it makes me stop and

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<v Speaker 7>it's a very sober ring to say something like this. Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I realize my problems aren't as bad as all ZI

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, I just respond, they need they need a voice, Tina, let.

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<v Speaker 2>Me respond to what you said. Okay, there's certain professions

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<v Speaker 2>in this country which are not allowed to strike. Police

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<v Speaker 2>officers cannot strike, firefighters cannot strike, the military cannot strike.

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<v Speaker 2>All those folks become and air traffic controllers cannot strike.

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<v Speaker 2>They accept those jobs with the understanding if your house

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<v Speaker 2>is burning down and you call the fighter problem, they

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<v Speaker 2>say to you would love to come Ova, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>on strike. It kind of worked that way.

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<v Speaker 7>I why I say that they I know, can I

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<v Speaker 7>express myself a little bit better? The reason why I

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<v Speaker 7>think that they had the right to strike and they

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<v Speaker 7>go on strike, then Ronald Reagan should have met their

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<v Speaker 7>demands within five minutes. Five minutes they should have got

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<v Speaker 7>their demands met because we need enough enough of those controllers.

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<v Speaker 7>We need qualified people, we need people who need their

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<v Speaker 7>who know their job. And I'm just standing up for

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<v Speaker 7>the air traffic controllers all over this country in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>They have a right to be heard. They have a

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<v Speaker 7>right to have enough people. That's how I'm responding to

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<v Speaker 7>listening to what you have been talking about since after

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<v Speaker 7>nine o'clock. And I understand that they don't have a right,

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<v Speaker 7>but they need a voice, and so I want to

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<v Speaker 7>be their voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure they would very much appreciate hearing what

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<v Speaker 2>you have to say. I don't know that that's the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, what do you do when the fighter problem

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<v Speaker 2>wants to strike? Tina? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 7>I've never heard of a fire department wanting to strike.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, the reason they strike is different situation, Tina.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason that you will strike is that the law

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<v Speaker 2>says they're not allowed to strike people. They're not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>automakers or or whatever. School teachers in Massachusetts cannot strike.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a traffic control is a different situation. It's a

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<v Speaker 7>very high sense, stressful job in a different category.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, Tina, what but you got to do here.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I make a suggestion, I would suggest that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this seriously, that if you really want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the voice of this, call maybe either of your

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<v Speaker 2>US senators tomorrow, Sheldon Whitehouse or Jack Read and express

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<v Speaker 2>that to them and tell them to file legislation which

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<v Speaker 2>will give the air traffic controllers the right to strike.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the that's I think what you got to do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to, you can wish something is going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, or you can take some action to try

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<v Speaker 2>to make it happen. And I think I know you

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<v Speaker 2>well enough that you're you're on the side of taking

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<v Speaker 2>some action. So call one of your US senators and say,

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<v Speaker 2>please file legislation on my you know, on your behalf,

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<v Speaker 2>to allow the air traffic controllers the right to strike.

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<v Speaker 5>Fair enough, Dan, Yeah, no, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's got to get the ball rolling. Why not beat Tina?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure exactly, Well, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, look, look, all great advances in this

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<v Speaker 2>country often start with the courage of one person. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>Rosa Parks. She refused to sit on the back of

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<v Speaker 7>And and I know this situation from what I could

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<v Speaker 7>see didn't have anything to do with the air trophic controllers.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how much of it was their responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you this if the New York Times helicopter,

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<v Speaker 2>if you read the New York Times tomorrow, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to my show earlier tonight, the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times has a report from the FAA that says that

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<v Speaker 2>particular air traffic control tower was understaffed. They need they

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<v Speaker 2>needed thirty people full time air traffic controllers to make

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<v Speaker 2>that a safe airport, and all they had.

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<v Speaker 7>Was nineteen And that's a bit, right, Dan, I'm agreeing,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm saying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree with you too. Okay, great, thanks, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Tabou was great to your voice.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, thank you, Okay, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk later, bye bye. We'll take a break the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour. We get only one

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>That report of the New York Times is a great

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<v Speaker 2>concern because you cannot have if both the FAA and

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<v Speaker 2>the Controllers Union believe that they need thirty full time

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<v Speaker 2>qualified air traffic controllers at Reagan National Airport, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it with nineteen and this then was this was

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. It was just more of a question

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<v Speaker 2>of when back to the phones were go going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Karen and Wisconsin. Karen next on nightside, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi Dan. Until I'm upset I haven't heard and I'm

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<v Speaker 10>not always last night it wasn't on all the time,

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<v Speaker 10>but doesn't anybody maybe brought up and I didn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 10>But this is so reminiscent to me of the plane

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<v Speaker 10>that went into the Potomac almost forty three years ago,

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<v Speaker 10>right to the two weeks in January.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talked about that last night. We re recorded

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<v Speaker 2>it different different situation. That was a plane that took

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<v Speaker 2>off and it had ice on the wings. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the iced properly and it was leading National Reagan well

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't Reagan National that it was just National Airport

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<v Speaker 2>and it it just it got off the ground, but

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<v Speaker 2>it couldn't gain altitude. And yeah, that was There were

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<v Speaker 2>several people who survived that that flight actually, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were civilians who actually pulled people out of the water.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, yeah, that that's the one I thought about

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. And also, yeah, when we when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you focus on the the the the skaters, the young skaters,

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<v Speaker 2>and their families and their coaches. Big plane crash back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty one where the entire US skating team

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<v Speaker 2>was going to compete in Europe, and the plane crashed

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety, nineteen sixty one, excuse me, nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone on board was killed. The plane crash in Belgium.

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<v Speaker 2>So the little there's there's a couple of corollaries here,

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, you thought, and I thought last night

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<v Speaker 2>about ye January of nineteen eighty was it?

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<v Speaker 10>Let's it was eighty two eighty two January fourteenth, almost

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<v Speaker 10>two weeks. I didn't hear. I wouldn't have called, but

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<v Speaker 10>I took that bridge to work every day, back and

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<v Speaker 10>forth and when that point, and I just it was

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<v Speaker 10>five years that I moved to Boston, and to see

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<v Speaker 10>that happen, you know it, That is what it reminded me.

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<v Speaker 2>In Boston, we have local an airport, which is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>part of the city in East Boston, but National Airport

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<v Speaker 2>is very close. You can leave National Airport and with

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<v Speaker 10>Depend I would sit there, and I would sit there

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<v Speaker 10>and watch go down there and watch the planes come

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<v Speaker 10>in because it was so much fun, you know, to

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<v Speaker 10>watch the planes go right over your head. But this

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<v Speaker 10>is just Dan, I just this isn't one one term

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<v Speaker 10>presidents doing, but the whole country, just the infrastructure and

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<v Speaker 10>things just seem to be kind of falling apart. And

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<v Speaker 10>it can't be blamed on one, you know, one party,

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<v Speaker 10>but like the trains, the train tracks, and there's just

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<v Speaker 10>so much wrong. And why didn't we keep up better

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<v Speaker 10>with things like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I think I think that's an

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<v Speaker 2>important issue not to lose sight of. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>you've identified a really good issue tonight. I just do

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<v Speaker 2>want to focus on the loss of those sixty.

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<v Speaker 10>Sevens olds exactly. I'm not going to take it all

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<v Speaker 10>on it just it just seems we should be keeping

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. Just roads and to that matter, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>I got run. We'll talk to you, appreciate, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year. It's still January, so I can wish.

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<v Speaker 10>You happy to thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go next to We're going to go here

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<v Speaker 2>Pete and Revere. Pete, you were next time nights that

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<v Speaker 2>welcome Hi, Dan, Okay, hear you perfectly, Pete, all right, got.

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<v Speaker 11>Happy to know. I haven't talked to you a long time. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 11>all right, I heard the last half hour every they're

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<v Speaker 11>going to talk about, so I'm not gonna go over it.

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<v Speaker 11>Everything she said is correct. I want to go back

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<v Speaker 11>to Reagan. It's ironic that the President and the the

425
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<v Speaker 11>air part of the same name. But he was like

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<v Speaker 11>a one man dog department himself. One of the first

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<v Speaker 11>things he did, and I know you're younger, younger than me,

428
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<v Speaker 11>but you'll remember, he made up labels of his name

429
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<v Speaker 11>and put on White House stationary to save money. And

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<v Speaker 11>that didn't affect anybody's life. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 11>remember that, all right, Okay, Well that's a frugal thing,

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<v Speaker 11>but like I said, it didn't affect anybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>physically or any other way. But as far as the

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<v Speaker 11>inner traffic controllers, you know in Boston alonely had several

435
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<v Speaker 11>near misses, and even the two wing tips did touch

436
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<v Speaker 11>I think in the last month or so you heard that.

437
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<v Speaker 11>I think was even broadcasted on your station. Yeah, well, Logan,

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<v Speaker 11>let me say something about the control is that okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before you go behold on. I just like to

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<v Speaker 2>comment on what you said. I am concerned obviously when

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of airplanes on the ground they touched their wings. Okay, absolutely,

442
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<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't worry me as much as what happened

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<v Speaker 2>last night because generally when when a couple of the

444
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<v Speaker 2>planes are backing around or something and then and there's

445
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<v Speaker 2>the wings are touched, no one gets hurt. Last night

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<v Speaker 2>sixty full agreement.

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<v Speaker 11>But I want to mention something else. It's another accident

448
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<v Speaker 11>waiting to happen. There to be many, many more than

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<v Speaker 11>what the sixties, so people that we lotted which should

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<v Speaker 11>have never happened. And again that was due of due

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<v Speaker 11>to enough controllers and they're working all the time in

452
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<v Speaker 11>too many hours. That's the fact. My brother was a

453
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<v Speaker 11>federal meat inspector. He passed away last year through age

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<v Speaker 11>and orange to thank to Vietnam. But he told me

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<v Speaker 11>many times that in the same vein when a meat

456
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<v Speaker 11>inspector either retired or died, they the other inspected around.

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<v Speaker 11>They're not to have areas would still in like they

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<v Speaker 11>take on two or three hours in addition to their load.

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<v Speaker 11>Now when the meet is not properly inspected. Number one

460
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<v Speaker 11>aren't supposed to become dog food when you make mistakes

461
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<v Speaker 11>with that? How many is that going to affect? How

462
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<v Speaker 11>many people? Now, I'm just saying this is a reality

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<v Speaker 11>with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I'm just saying, but well, what is being done

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<v Speaker 11>about that? That's my question? What is being done about that?

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<v Speaker 11>I say it's an accident waiting to happen. I don't

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<v Speaker 11>want to see it now. I don't eat it out

469
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<v Speaker 11>of me, but that doesn't matter. I'm not invading. I'm

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<v Speaker 11>just saying that's a very bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, Pete. You raised another good issue, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you for it. We're just gonna I want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the focus tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I got you. I don't want to think how

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<v Speaker 11>much time? Just want man. I have other things I

476
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<v Speaker 11>could say, but I'm not going to say it tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, Just happen to know you again and see

478
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<v Speaker 11>your friend Kenny. Give gives Kenny a handshake from me.

479
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<v Speaker 11>I haven't seen him either. Four while, Okay, you call

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<v Speaker 11>me any other night. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get one. We're in here, Joe and Belmore. Joe

482
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<v Speaker 2>welcome next one night side Dan time.

483
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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 12>If he can't do it, no one can Dan I'm

485
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<v Speaker 12>going to try to stick to a topic or a subject,

486
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<v Speaker 12>because you know how I skip around. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely want you to stick to the topic because

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<v Speaker 2>it's an important night, Jeus.

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<v Speaker 12>What do you think of the Russian couple of the

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<v Speaker 12>World champions skaters who went down they had everything to

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<v Speaker 12>live for?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think everybody has everything to live for. The

493
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<v Speaker 2>two young teenage skaters, their moms. I mean, just it's

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the other you know, sixty one people

495
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<v Speaker 2>that are involved, the military folks, their lives, their families'

496
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 2>lives have been shattered. Everyone on that plane they had

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones and you know, families and whether it was

498
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<v Speaker 2>moms and dads or husbands or wives or children. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just, you know, just so sad, so sad, and

500
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<v Speaker 2>so unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 12>Dan, I have a fear of flying. What about it?

502
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<v Speaker 12>Turbulence and lightning.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you're up in a plane, Joe and you get

504
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<v Speaker 2>a little lightning or turbulence, I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm ready to grab the rosary beads. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 12>I haven't been on a plane since two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you haven't missed anything, because they haven't got any

509
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 2>more comfortable since two thousand and five. The seats haven't

510
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<v Speaker 2>gotten any bigger, the food hasn't gotten any better. Trust

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<v Speaker 2>me on that. Okay, so you're a spot man in

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<v Speaker 2>that regard.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks for taking my calls in God.

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<v Speaker 2>Calling in Joe. We'll talk soon, okay, Thanks, Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank to you, right back at you, all right, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night, take a break. I got one line open.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do my best to get Phil Barry Nonah

518
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<v Speaker 2>Nonah in Hudson, New Hampshire, and Donnie in and if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to take one, the only one line I

520
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<v Speaker 2>got is for you. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

521
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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. We're going to change topics at eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a guest schedule. I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the topic. We're going to talk about people who

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<v Speaker 2>are addicted to social media and the internet what can

525
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<v Speaker 2>be done to allow them to shake that addiction. Back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window

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<v Speaker 1>World Nightside Studios on w b Z News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, let's keep. We're going to get everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in somehow someway. We'll see. Let's go to Nonah. No, Noah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Nonah. I hope with an n in Hudson, New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, the know the reason I can't pl my satellite

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<v Speaker 5>radio game.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much. I'm hoping I'm saving you

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<v Speaker 2>some money.

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<v Speaker 5>Nonah, welcome because I'm addicted to your show. God bless

537
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<v Speaker 5>you for dealing with them a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you very much, And Bob.

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<v Speaker 5>Bless all those families that were affected last night. And yes,

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<v Speaker 5>the FAA is definitely under theft. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to blame like the pilot, like the military guy,

542
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<v Speaker 5>because maybe he freaked out. Should he have been at

543
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<v Speaker 5>the same altitude, but should be fa the air Traffic

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<v Speaker 5>Control has said follow him in. Probably not. Oh, we

545
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<v Speaker 5>don't really know until like we know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's get let's get all the evidence. And I

547
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<v Speaker 2>think the President got a little ahead of himself today

548
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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 13>But let's I think so true. I think so true

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<v Speaker 13>because I went in too work late today because I

551
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<v Speaker 13>was glued to the TV. Because you know, I just

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<v Speaker 13>I just pray for all of.

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<v Speaker 5>Those families that were affected. And once we know them,

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<v Speaker 5>we know, we can't we can't jump to conclusions, right,

555
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<v Speaker 5>we can't. We can't judge anybody. But maybe that pilot

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<v Speaker 5>maybe he freaked out, Like maybe he just at the

557
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<v Speaker 5>last minute freaked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, you know, you can have iviusly people

559
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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a nervous breakdown. But I bet that I

560
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<v Speaker 2>think he was just flying and he was. He was.

561
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<v Speaker 2>He was at three hundred and fifty feet. They're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to have separation. He was supposed to be no higher

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<v Speaker 2>than two hundred feet and yep, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they find out that his altimeter was broken or whatever,

565
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Let's I agree with you. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>find out what the truth is and then we can

567
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<v Speaker 2>we can talk. But tonight, I think it's a night

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00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to remember those were lost and to also pray for

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<v Speaker 2>their family members that they can find peace.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, those families, those kids, those moms, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, is this your first time calling?

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<v Speaker 5>No, this is my third. Well you told me like

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<v Speaker 5>the first time I called it, that I have to

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<v Speaker 5>cancel the light radio because I'm your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you keep canceling and remember, if anybody tries to

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<v Speaker 2>charge you for Nightside, you call me directly.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, God I love your show, and like I said,

578
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<v Speaker 5>God bless you, because I hear some of your calls

579
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<v Speaker 5>and sometimes I'm like, oh my god, I don't know

580
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<v Speaker 5>how we how we I don't know how you get through.

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<v Speaker 2>It, not at all. I love everybody who calls, whether

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<v Speaker 2>they agree to disagree. Without them, I don't have a show.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the way I look at it.

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<v Speaker 5>God bless you, Right back at you, New Year find

585
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<v Speaker 5>out so happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say that once we're over January, so I

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<v Speaker 2>only got one one night I can say that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my rule of thumb. In February, it's no more happy

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's. Thanks knowing to talk to you later. Bye,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you you too. Good night, fill in Boston, fill

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<v Speaker 2>your next one nights. I go right ahead. Good.

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<v Speaker 14>I wasn't gonna call you for just the same reason

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<v Speaker 14>you would. You mentioned earlier the seriousness of the failing

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<v Speaker 14>of any But did you mentioned someone mentioned unions and

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<v Speaker 14>didn't they strike back in the early seventies and expisidentally,

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<v Speaker 14>I thought someone else grabbed my tail here. The Ragan

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<v Speaker 14>Airport was named death the Reagan and he's the one

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<v Speaker 14>that fired.

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<v Speaker 2>All yeah he did, yeah, no, he said this was

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<v Speaker 2>this was nineteen eighty one, I think or eighty two,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, Reagan, Reagan, did you know air traffic controllers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not supposed to strike. There's a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why you have a tremendous impact economy.

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<v Speaker 14>Everybody Philly quickly, and it was Philly kind of good. No,

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<v Speaker 14>I mean luckily, we ran pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would think anyone that that anyone that got hired to

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<v Speaker 2>be an air traffic controller, let us say in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two, they're now working for forty two years there,

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<v Speaker 2>long since retired.

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<v Speaker 14>That's what I'm saying. So what do we have now?

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<v Speaker 14>Now we've got the jew whatever, call a JV team

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<v Speaker 14>whatever it is. I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's let's see what happens. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>prejudge it.

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<v Speaker 14>No, I know, I know. I'm just saying. I know,

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<v Speaker 14>but I you know, but you think one more time,

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<v Speaker 14>for you think, isn't that airport closed us through the

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<v Speaker 14>all the what white house in the pen that you

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<v Speaker 14>mentioned Pentagon isn't really close to what the yes, all

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<v Speaker 14>the big shots goals. We think that airport would have

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<v Speaker 14>been run.

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<v Speaker 3>By the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, I'm guessing I.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree with you. I totally agree with you, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>really do. I Phil, I got three more. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to say none of them. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get much time, but we'll give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you very much, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel appreciate it very much. Okay, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to buzz through you quickly, but we're changing topics.

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<v Speaker 2>At eleven o'clock. Barry and Norwa, Barry, you got you

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<v Speaker 2>got the micro red ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>My Dan, it's books to a Barry. I want to

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<v Speaker 9>bring up there's there's a TV series called The Air

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<v Speaker 9>Crash Investigation or Air Emergency or may Day. It's in

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<v Speaker 9>three different countries. It's been on for twenty four seasons,

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<v Speaker 9>and they each episode they investigate a crash. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 9>I want to say that if to respect the salute

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<v Speaker 9>the people who investigate, the men and women who are

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<v Speaker 9>the professional, it's very professional. They find out the cause

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<v Speaker 9>of each accident and for that, from that they make

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<v Speaker 9>more safety. Safety there's a lesson to be learned. If

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<v Speaker 9>there's a silver lining, there's going to be some safety

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<v Speaker 9>lesson that's learned. And the professional people who conduct these

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<v Speaker 9>investigations are the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the National Transport I assume you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>National Transportation Safety Board.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, person and the other two investigate from Boeing and

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<v Speaker 9>from the their associated agencies, and they they're very, very

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<v Speaker 9>very good at what they do, and they find out

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<v Speaker 9>what's wrong, and they've helped to fix it, and they

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<v Speaker 9>won't happen again. Whatever happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us hope not Berry. Thank you much. I owe

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<v Speaker 2>you a visit at the bookstore on top. We'll meet someday,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, thank you, Dan, I have a good day, and

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<v Speaker 9>thank you for being my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Donnie and Walpole. Donnie got room

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<v Speaker 2>for you and Ed and marshiall go right ahead, Donnie.

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<v Speaker 8>Dan, I just want to comment on the plane that

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<v Speaker 8>back in the afi A flight.

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<v Speaker 12>It was the ice.

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<v Speaker 8>And then it sat on the taxiway.

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<v Speaker 2>In a problem. It had a problem with ice. You correct,

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<v Speaker 2>it sat on the taxi and they learned from that,

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<v Speaker 2>and now when you're when you're on a plane, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>de ice the plane three or four times until you

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<v Speaker 2>get off the gate. They won't let it rebuild. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened exactly. And the plane was too heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>it got off the ground a little bit and then

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<v Speaker 2>it crashed right into that bridge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And I can remember the island's name being Larry and

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<v Speaker 8>they said they weren't going to naked and they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And there was a guy who actually jumped in

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<v Speaker 2>the river. I think his name was Lenny slot Neck.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Reagan recognized him at a State of

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<v Speaker 2>the Union address as being really an unsung American hero.

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<v Speaker 2>He saved people that day that he survived, that memory

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 8>He handed the rope to someone else, and he waited

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<v Speaker 8>insurn yes, in his.

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<v Speaker 2>His civilian clothes, his cold January day. Donnie, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get one more and call more often and call earlier

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to talk with you longer.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, that's good, Dan Grade, evening.

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<v Speaker 2>You too, Donnie Ed. You're the last of the hour

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<v Speaker 2>I got you in Yougrett ahead. Oh then, Happy New Year,

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<v Speaker 2>sad night, sad night.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what to uh at Logan for over thirty years,

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<v Speaker 4>and I see the trouble over the years is just

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<v Speaker 4>a congestion. Logan's gone from you know, being wide open

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<v Speaker 4>space and plenty of room for planes to it's you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to see all these planes getting clipped. That's just

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<v Speaker 4>going to be on the news all the time. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's not a big safety concern. But what I see

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<v Speaker 4>in Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>I got about thirty seconds left here, ED, So you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be quitful.

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<v Speaker 4>It's too congestion, too much congestion, and that's a big problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And why are we doing a training mission in a

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<v Speaker 4>congested air space? You know, you can do a training mission.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be way way in inland.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, up by Dallas Airport. They got plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>room up by Dallas, west of the city.

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<v Speaker 4>ED.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm flat out of time. I can only ask you

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<v Speaker 2>to call again, and to call a little earlier, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can have a longer conversation, particularly knowing your experience. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>oh take care. Yeah, thanks, I appreciate it. When we

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<v Speaker 2>come back on to talk about addicted to the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a good thing as a serious problem. And

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to talking with you