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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right

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<v Speaker 1>back to that Pam Bondi interview with the House Oversight

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<v Speaker 1>Committee question. Before you left your position as Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 1>were there attorneys or other DOJ employees still working torectify

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<v Speaker 1>redaction errors in the files? Answer? I believe so, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone reached out to us saying that there was

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<v Speaker 1>an error, including members of Congress who have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to look at the unredacted versions. I believe they still

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<v Speaker 1>have that ability. Mister Emmer, we're at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the majority's hour, so we're going to go off the

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<v Speaker 1>record redacted. We can go back on record before we

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<v Speaker 1>get started. I understand that the witness has a clarification

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<v Speaker 1>that she'd like to make. Bondie, Yeah, I believe one

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<v Speaker 1>of the questions that was posed to me, pretending to

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Maxwell being transferred from a prison, was phrased. The

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<v Speaker 1>question was phrased that she was transferred from a maximum

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<v Speaker 1>security prison to a low security prison. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that she was ever in a maximum security prison.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was a lower facility prison that she

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<v Speaker 1>was initially in and when she was transferred it was

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<v Speaker 1>to a comparable prison. But as my answer was, that

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be for the Bureau of Prisons to

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<v Speaker 1>answer that. What she doesn't say, though, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General is in charge of all of that. The

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General is in charge of the BP as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And to help her out a little bit, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know, Maxwell was not at the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of facility as Camp Ryan. Maxwell was at a low

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<v Speaker 1>level facility in Tallahassee where she should have stayed, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and then she was moved to a federal camp,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a whole last different story question. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>miss Bondi. I'll be doing most of the questioning for

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<v Speaker 1>the minority today. Before we get started, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that we're aware of your recent health diagnosis. We

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<v Speaker 1>wish you a full and speedy recovery. Bondie, thank you question.

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<v Speaker 1>If you need a break at any point today, please

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. I also want to thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your long career in public service. Bondi, thank you question.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, our conversation today is going to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the DOJ's investigation of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the DOJ's compliance with the Committee subpoena and

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein File Transparency Act. Just a few things before

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<v Speaker 1>we get started. First, I'll note for the record that

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<v Speaker 1>today's interview is not being videotaped. Committee Democrats strongly disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with that decision. We believe that Jeffrey Epstein's survivors and

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<v Speaker 1>the American people deserve to watch today's interview and to

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<v Speaker 1>reach their own conclusions, and the lack of video here

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<v Speaker 1>today is another failure in transparency and accountability for the

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<v Speaker 1>survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Redacted. To that end, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>introduce as minority Exhibit A. This is a letter from

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<v Speaker 1>a group of Jeffrey Epstein's survivors to Chairman Comer, dated

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<v Speaker 1>May twentieth, requesting that this interview be videotaped. Bondi. Minority

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<v Speaker 1>Exhibit A was marked for identification in question. Miss Bondie,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you may have discussed today's questions and other forums.

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<v Speaker 1>Our goal here is to create one single record that

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<v Speaker 1>addresses as many of the issues as possible. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your patients, and we'll try to have you repeat yourself

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<v Speaker 1>as little as possible. To the extent that any of

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<v Speaker 1>my questions or your answers involves survivor names or other

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<v Speaker 1>survivor identifying information, we would ask that the majority redacts

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<v Speaker 1>that information prior to releasing the transcript publicly, and with

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<v Speaker 1>that we can get started. And I just had sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a preliminary global question. We will ask everything today

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<v Speaker 1>to the best of your recollection. But the impression I

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<v Speaker 1>got from the last round was that, in a general sense,

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<v Speaker 1>on a day to day basis, then Deputy Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche now Acting Attorney General Blanche had a more direct

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<v Speaker 1>day to day supervisory role over the Epstein files and

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<v Speaker 1>related matters. Would you tend to agree with that answer? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he supervised the Epstein file release. Question, and with respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Epstein files related matters that link directly to the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>is it correct that Director Patel would have a more intimate,

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<v Speaker 1>detailed understanding of that, then you probably would answer yes question.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if I heard correctly, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to this committee subpoena, a DOJ official named

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Woodward was the person to whom that topic was

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<v Speaker 1>generally delegated. Is that right answer? On a portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the documents being released. Stanley Woodward supervise that release. Question okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can ask later when we get to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>is there a different official who has sort of been

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<v Speaker 1>the person in charge of the committee subpoena since then

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<v Speaker 1>other than mister Woodward. Answer no, Todd Blanche I believe

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<v Speaker 1>question okay, to the extent that this case for other

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<v Speaker 1>topics we discussed today where you yourself are not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's somebody else what that was, either managing it

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<v Speaker 1>or in charge of it. If you could just let

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<v Speaker 1>us know when that's the case, that's very helpful for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd appreciate, Miss Bondie. Have you ever met Jeffrey Epstein? Bondye,

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<v Speaker 1>not to my knowledge. Question is there any uncertainty on

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<v Speaker 1>your part about whether you may have without knowing? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I was Attorney General for the State of Florida for

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<v Speaker 1>eight years and probably met thousands and thousands of individuals

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<v Speaker 1>at events, but to my knowledge, I have never met him.

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<v Speaker 1>Question Have you ever met Glaim Maxwell Bondy to my

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge no, same answer. Question. I'd like to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about some potential investigative leads linked to the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>that the dj released during your tenure at DOJ, were

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<v Speaker 1>you aware of any open investigation into any individual or

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<v Speaker 1>entity related to participation in mister Epstein's crimes. Answer? At

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<v Speaker 1>one point, we asked Jay Clayton in the Southern District

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<v Speaker 1>of New York to open an investigation, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether that's still open or not. Question what was

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<v Speaker 1>the extent of your knowledge of the status of that

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<v Speaker 1>investigation as your last day as Attorney General? Bondie, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall my last day. What was the status of it? Question?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it open as far as you know? Answer? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall. Question who would be most likely to know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Would that be mister Clayton? Answer mister Clayton, and we

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<v Speaker 1>very publicly asked him to look into any other crimes

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<v Speaker 1>committed as a result of the Epstein files. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the status of that. Question during your tenure as

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General, did DOJ ever contact any Epstein's survivors to

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<v Speaker 1>follow up on any investigative leads contained in the Epstein files?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer by Bondie. That would be a question for Director

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<v Speaker 1>of Patel and deputy Director excuse me, Deputy Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>at the time now Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche question,

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<v Speaker 1>to your knowledge, did the Department of Justice ever investigate

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Tish for any potential crimes related to Jeffrey Epstein? BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge, I don't know. Question, to your knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>did the DOJ ever investigate Jess Staley for any alleged

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<v Speaker 1>crime related to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer? I don't know. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>to your knowledge has DOJ question Secretary Howard Lutnik, Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Robert F. Kennedy, former Navy Secretary John Feelin, or any

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<v Speaker 1>other administration official about their ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall. That would be a question for Deputy

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<v Speaker 1>General Todd Blanche. Question, I'm just going to call him

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<v Speaker 1>mister Blanche today. It's no disrespect. I just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get tangled up with all the different titles. To

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<v Speaker 1>your understanding or should I say, do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of DJ's decision to investigate or not investigate Les

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<v Speaker 1>Wexner as a co conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein? Answer not,

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge, that would be a question for the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>Question is Director Patel a reasonable place to start? With

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<v Speaker 1>that type of question, answer yes question. In the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen SDNY case, FBI officials identified ten alleged co conspirators

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<v Speaker 1>to interview in connection with mister Epstein's crimes. There's an

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<v Speaker 1>email reflecting the fact, which I will introduce now as

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<v Speaker 1>minority Exhibit B, and I'll give you a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>look it over. Bondy, what was the date of that question?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a copy, but the date is July seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. Miss Dylan, look at the document. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make an objection redacted to your knowledge. Who are these

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<v Speaker 1>ten individuals? Dylan, I'm going to object to this question.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beyond the scope of the witness voluntary interview here today,

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<v Speaker 1>which is concerning the things that she did or is

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for during her tenure as Attorney General. Redacted. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes directly to the Epstein investigation, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen investigation was also discussed in the previous round.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd be hard pressed to understand the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>that objection. Dylan. I don't know what to do to

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<v Speaker 1>help you understand, but it's my objection. Redacted. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could just use the microphone so the folks can hear,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the button there. Dylan, Yeah, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>your question, and it's beyond the scope question. Would it

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<v Speaker 1>be your view that the twenty nineteen Epstein investigation in

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<v Speaker 1>its totality is beyond the scope of today's conversation? Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>The scope of today's transcribed interview is what the former

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General sitting next to me did regarding the Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>transparency files and related matters during her tenure, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the scope of it. Question, So just sort of yes

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<v Speaker 1>or no. Would it be your understanding that, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen Epstein investigation in its totality would be

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<v Speaker 1>outside the scope of today's conversation? Dylan, Yes, question okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it be your understanding that any Epstein related fact

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<v Speaker 1>or question that does not live inside the witnesses date

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<v Speaker 1>range as Attorney general would be outside the scope of

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<v Speaker 1>today's conversation? Dylan generally yes, unless she has personal knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>confus usion about this, Just articulate for us and for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, the link between the objection and the agency's interest,

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<v Speaker 1>because our understanding is obviously you're not here as a

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<v Speaker 1>personal counsel, so I would expect to hear something like

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<v Speaker 1>that from the witness. But why is it coming from you,

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<v Speaker 1>ding bat Dylan, because we want clear testimony coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice concerning what any witness from the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice, and that's the basis on which this

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<v Speaker 1>witness is here, concerning her tenure as Attorney General, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the scope that we've agreed to redacted. The

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<v Speaker 1>witness is perfectly capable. It sounds like of saying she's

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. If she's not sure, so I'm not following

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<v Speaker 1>why that would be some kind of insurmountable problem. Dylan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help you follow it. But that's our objection

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<v Speaker 1>and limitation today. Redacted. Okay, it's not even necessarily clear

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<v Speaker 1>to me that would be your place to draw the line.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll phrase it this way. I'll re ask the question,

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<v Speaker 1>have the witness say that she doesn't want to answer

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<v Speaker 1>and state the base for that. Dylan, You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to dictate the objections that I make, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>ask your questions and I'll instruct the witness to answer

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<v Speaker 1>or not accordingly because she is here on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>concerning that time redacted. Yeah, it's kind of a non sequitur,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, I agree, but I'm going to set it

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<v Speaker 1>so we get that clarified. So, Miss Bondi, with respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Exhibit B that I provided, and if you don't mind,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like if you could get a little closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the microphone, there's been some problems with respect to

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<v Speaker 1>Exhibit B. Who are the ten individuals co conspirators of

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<v Speaker 1>mister Epstein reflected in this email Dylan, she's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to answer that redacted? Miss Bondie. Are you refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall ever reviewing this document, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>to New York. Question. That's helpful, thank you. Would Director

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<v Speaker 1>Patel be a logical starting point for those of us

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<v Speaker 1>who might be interested in this question, Bondi or someone

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<v Speaker 1>or not interviewed. Is that right? Answer? Correct? All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where

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<v Speaker 1>episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off

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<v Speaker 1>with the Pam Bondi congressional interview. Bondi, And to clarify,

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<v Speaker 1>that was twenty nineteen and I was not the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>just feel free to clarify for me. Thank you. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to ask some questions about President Trump. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>crimes becoming public. Dylan, you can certainly answer if you

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<v Speaker 1>have any knowledge of that. Bondie, can you ask that again? Question?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, what's your understanding of the extent to which

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Question during your tenure? BONDI wait, can you

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<v Speaker 1>repeat that again? Question? Yeah, I can phrase it again, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure it's clear for both

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Answer, because you're talking about Glenn Maxwell too.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer yeah, and I can split them up and do

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<v Speaker 1>the one out of a time if you want. Answer no,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Question what's your understanding of the extent to

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<v Speaker 1>which President Trump was aware of Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell's crimes prior to the crimes becoming public? Answer I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not certain of the extent to his knowledge. Question Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>during your tenure, did President Trump direct you or any

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<v Speaker 1>of your subordinates to take official action related to Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein or Glenn Maxwell. Answer I'm not going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>any conversations that I've had with the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Question it would be helpful for us to

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<v Speaker 1>just understand whether that's just a refusal to discuss full stop,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether that's an invocation of some version of executive privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer privilege question, and can you or your counsel elaborate

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the nature and the privilege of

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<v Speaker 1>the record, Dylan, We're not going to get into any

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that the former Attorney general had with other senior

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<v Speaker 1>members of the executive members of the White House and

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate staff of the President that's covered by privilege,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Ginn. I'll also add, we don't even need to

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<v Speaker 1>formally assert the privilege in this context, given the voluntary

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<v Speaker 1>nature of these proceedings. So we're just going to refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to prove answers about conversations with the president or his advisors.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I bet you are. Are you guys catching on yet? Redacted?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? And as I think you just said, those

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<v Speaker 1>is this just a voluntary refusal to answer or a

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<v Speaker 1>formal assertion of executive privilege? Dylan, This is a voluntary interview.

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<v Speaker 1>An assertion of privilege is not legally required, and so

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<v Speaker 1>just telling you what's out of bounds, you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get answers on those issues. Why is BONDI even

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<v Speaker 1>here enough with a bullshit and all the people out

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<v Speaker 1>here that are still beating the drum for Trump, Wake

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck up, wake up already redacted. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>choice not to answer that question, correct, Dylan. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>testifying here, so I'd say redacted. I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and ask your next question. Question. Well, just

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<v Speaker 1>to clarify with the witness, thank you. That's a great point,

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<v Speaker 1>redacted question. That's just the choice, the witness part, not

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<v Speaker 1>simply to answer the question in the category you described,

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<v Speaker 1>which is conversations with the president or as close advisors.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that correct answer? And as I've said in the

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<v Speaker 1>past on multiple range of topics, question, but is that

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<v Speaker 1>the case here today? Answer? Yes question, Yes, Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>just need that last yes answer, yes question, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>To your knowledge, has the DJ released all Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>related files and documents that relate to President Trump? Answer

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<v Speaker 1>to my knowledge, yes question. It was reported by The

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal that in September of last year, President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump told Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green that if she tried

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<v Speaker 1>to expose the names of Epstein's abusers. That quote my

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<v Speaker 1>friends will get hurt. Were you present for that conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer not to my knowledge? Question were you aware of

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<v Speaker 1>that comment being made? Answer not to my knowledge. Question

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any knowledge of which friends President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was referring to? Answer not to my knowledge. Question did

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump ever tell you that he had friends who

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<v Speaker 1>could be exposed as abusers by the Epstein files? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to discuss any conversation that I've had

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<v Speaker 1>with the President on this matter. Question. There may be

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<v Speaker 1>a time I'll try to minimize it, but there may

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<v Speaker 1>be times where it's appropriate for you to say that. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, and I appreciate your patience, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss some chronological events, starting with President Trump's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four campaign. During that campaign, then candidate Trump promised

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<v Speaker 1>to release the Epstein files. Did you speak with then

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<v Speaker 1>candidate Trump or any of his advisers about Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>or Glenn Maxwell during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer not to my knowledge, but again, he wasn't the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan jumps in, it's beyond the scope of the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>BONDI And yeah, it's beyond the scope questions. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>helpful for us. Does that boundary extend beyond President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>time in office? Answer right question, Yes, Dylan, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand your question, redacted. I already do. My question. Then

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<v Speaker 1>it's whether during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you miss Bondy had any conversations with then candidate Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or as advisors about Jeffrey Epstein, orgle Ann Maxwell, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>And to repeat this, witness is here voluntarily to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about our time as attorney general. And that's an overarching limitation,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we cannot be here all day. And those

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<v Speaker 1>are the ground rules that we agreed on when we

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<v Speaker 1>came here, So that's our limitation. Your question goes beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just noting that for the witness, this is why

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be voluntary. This is all a big ass

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear for the record, we never agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>that or were informed of that. Dylan. Fine, Separately, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be helpful for me to understand with the question

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<v Speaker 1>relating to candidate Trump, is that still part of the

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<v Speaker 1>previously described concern of not discussing conversations with Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or President Trump. In other words, is it no conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with him at any time, whether or not he was

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<v Speaker 1>in office. Dylan. This is a separate limitation regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>temporal limitation redacted, which has previously been articulated to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Her testimony here today is limited to what she said

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<v Speaker 1>or did during her time as the attorney general. Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the basis on which we're here today. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>We blew through that one on the twenty nineteen email,

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like maybe it's a separate limitation on

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with I mean, you tell me. It's just helpful

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<v Speaker 1>for us and for the record to understand where that

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<v Speaker 1>limitation is. Dylan. Yeah, this is a voluntary interview. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she answered a question is not relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>the overall limitation. And we're going to be here all

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<v Speaker 1>day if there are no limits, So that's a limit, redacted. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>this will go so much quicker if there's clarity in

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<v Speaker 1>describing what the limits are. So let me just do

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<v Speaker 1>the question again, Dylan cuts her off. Redacted. You seem

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<v Speaker 1>That's your choice, but she's going to stick to the

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<v Speaker 1>limits that have been articulated. I really dislike to meet Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the lady that wasn't qualified for the office

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<v Speaker 1>that she was given. Yeah, her redacted. That's great, But

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<v Speaker 1>we can't walk out of here confused about what the

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<v Speaker 1>limits are. So let me just repeat this one question.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the limit is no conversation with President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>in or out of office, then that's the limit. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, it's a voluntary conversation. We just need

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<v Speaker 1>it on the record. So, when President Trump was a

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<v Speaker 1>have any discussion with him or as close advisors about

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell. Dylan, it's beyond the scope,

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<v Speaker 1>BONDI jumps in. It's beyond the scope. I was subpoened

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<v Speaker 1>as attorney general or asked to come in as attorney general. Question. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little closer to the microphone answer. Beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>scope question? Okay, in what sense? I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>lose all day on it, But in what sense do

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<v Speaker 1>you view it as a witness as beyond the scope question?

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<v Speaker 1>I was not attorney general at the time. Question, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you were sworn in as Attorney General on February fifth

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<v Speaker 1>of last year. When was your first conversation with President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump about the Epstein investigation. Answer, I don't discuss any

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<v Speaker 1>conversations whether I've had them or not had them with

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<v Speaker 1>the President of the United States. Question with respect to

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<v Speaker 1>the February twenty first comment about the DOJ maybe releasing

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<v Speaker 1>the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Sitting on my desk,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard the discussion in the previous round, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard a discussion of this previously. And just for the

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<v Speaker 1>very last piece of clarity, to your knowledge, is the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice currently withholding a document that lists Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's clients Bondy answer, to my knowledge, No question with

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<v Speaker 1>respect to the February twenty seventh meeting, what was discussed

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous round that grouping of files, to the

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<v Speaker 1>best of our understanding, was most already public at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recall whether at that time you knew whether

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<v Speaker 1>these files were already public or not public? Answer? No question, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't recall. Answer, don't recall. Don't believe I knew

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<v Speaker 1>they were public at the time. Question, Our understanding is

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<v Speaker 1>that none of the files were classified in the legal

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<v Speaker 1>sense of the word. Do you recall why the word

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<v Speaker 1>the classified was stamped on top. I don't recall if

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<v Speaker 1>they were or weren't. Question. You may have said this already,

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<v Speaker 1>But were these materials of the same files that you

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<v Speaker 1>had said that we're sitting on your desk a few

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<v Speaker 1>days earlier. Are those the same packet of files? Answer? Yes. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal has reported that you told President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump last May that he was in the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>and that the Department did not plan to release any

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<v Speaker 1>more Epstein files. Deputy Attorney General Blanche was also reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>in that meeting. What did President Trump say when you

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<v Speaker 1>for the transcript purpose, that I think the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice publicly confirmed the nature and the scope of that meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>So that would seem to us like something that's reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss in this forum. But I understand your position,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll move forward with respect to the July twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five memo that I think the majority handed out

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous round. I think I heard, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to confirm that mister Blanche was managing the

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<v Speaker 1>process for putting together the memo. Is that correct? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Which memo? Question? The July twenty fifth FBI DOJ no

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<v Speaker 1>further disclosures are warranted? Answer? I don't recall who was

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<v Speaker 1>managing that, because I don't think it's signed. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at that. I don't recall who managed that,

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<v Speaker 1>but ag Blanche was managing the entire investigation. Question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the memo stated, quote, we did not uncover evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks, now having seen the files, are

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<v Speaker 1>having trouble accepting that claim. Would you tend to I

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<v Speaker 1>can just read it, it's just the one sentence. I

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<v Speaker 1>can read it back. If that's helpful answer, go ahead. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the quote, we did not uncover evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of folks now haven't seen the

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<v Speaker 1>releases struggle with that logic of that claim. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>tend to agree with that statement? As you sit here today? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the date of the memo? Question? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was July seventh when it was released, although I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it has a date on it. Answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>would refer any of that to ag Blanche. Mister Quinn redacted.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just clarify to your question, are you referring

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<v Speaker 1>to the public's perception of that sentence at that very

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<v Speaker 1>limited number of files the Department was aware of at

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<v Speaker 1>this time this letter was drafted or later after many

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<v Speaker 1>more documents were reviewed. Question the latter, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>and hope it was clear in the question Quinn Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was clear, So in that case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's helpful question I can do a lead in. I

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<v Speaker 1>think folks who have now seen the release of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files struggle with that claim looking back on it

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<v Speaker 1>last July. Do you have a view on that statement

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here today? Answer? As ag Blanche has said multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Director Patel has multiple times, and I would agree,

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<v Speaker 1>if there is any evidence of a crime, they would

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<v Speaker 1>ask now that people contact the FBI so anything can

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<v Speaker 1>be fully investigated. Also, as I've stated earlier, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>US Attorney Jay Clayton had an investigation in the Southern

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<v Speaker 1>District of New York and I don't know the current

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<v Speaker 1>status of that as well. Question. Thank you. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to wrap up right here, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up

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<v Speaker 1>where we left off. All the information that goes with

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<v Speaker 1>this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we're going to get right back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Pam Bondi interview with Congress. Question with respect to that

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<v Speaker 1>memos assertion that no further disclosure of files would be

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate or warranted, do you recall who made that decision

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<v Speaker 1>at the time that no further Epstein file should be released? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you point out where you're reading that question? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Down at the bottom of the first page, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>one sentence and it says the determination of the DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI that no further disclosure would be appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>or warranted. Answer. I can't answer that other than that

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<v Speaker 1>was in July, and we had sought meaning the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice to unseal in July documents from courts in

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<v Speaker 1>the Southern District of Florida and Southern District of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was denied, I believe by both judges the

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<v Speaker 1>release of those documents. Question if you know, would the

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<v Speaker 1>Department have been aware of the content of the three

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<v Speaker 1>million or so pages that we now have seen at

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<v Speaker 1>the time that the memo was written in July. Answer

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe so. Question Okay, so that judgment about

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<v Speaker 1>no further disclosure of files would be warranted was made

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<v Speaker 1>on a lesser understanding of what the files were then

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<v Speaker 1>as we sit here today. Answer, well, clearly they did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that there were three million plus approximately three

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<v Speaker 1>million pages the documents at the time. Question as far

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, was that July memo written informed exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>within DJ and the FBI or did the White House

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<v Speaker 1>have any role in crafting that memo? Answer? I don't recall. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>The month prior, in June, Elon Musk had tweeted that

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<v Speaker 1>time to drop the really big bomb at real Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is in the Epstein files, and that's the real

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<v Speaker 1>reason they have not been made public. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any conversation with any agency or administration staff about the tweet?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer I'm not going to discuss any conversations that I

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<v Speaker 1>did or didn't have with the department or administration question

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<v Speaker 1>I think or conversations inside the department I think have

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<v Speaker 1>been discussed to a pretty good extent here today. So

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<v Speaker 1>is there some more nuance to that idea? Answer? No question? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it that you will not answer that particular question

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<v Speaker 1>for the record? Answer? Will you repeat the question? Answer? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The Elon Musk tweet which was last June, mister Musk

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<v Speaker 1>said quote, it's time to drop the really big bomb

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<v Speaker 1>at real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. The

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<v Speaker 1>question was just whether you had any conversation with subordinates

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues about that tweet? Dylan, that question calls for communication

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<v Speaker 1>that she already said she's not going to testify about,

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<v Speaker 1>and she already answered that, So question, I definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it does. But can you help me understand in

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<v Speaker 1>what sense? In other words, it's not a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>the president, it's during her time as attorney general. Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>she stated that she's not going to testify about executive

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<v Speaker 1>branch communication, and your question elicited that it was broader

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<v Speaker 1>than the president question. Definitely, I'm not asking about presidential communication.

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<v Speaker 1>So is the category not just president or close aids

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<v Speaker 1>to president. But inside of DJ conversation, Dylan that question redacted.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kind of changing the scope of your question. Actually, question,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I am Dylan. I think you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Question I'm definitely not. The question is just whether miss BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll direct it to Miss BONDI had any discussions

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<v Speaker 1>that you can recall with colleagues at DOJ about the

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<v Speaker 1>tweet that I just described, Dylan, So that's a different

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<v Speaker 1>question than the one you had originally asked. You can

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question if you can without revealing privileged communication.

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<v Speaker 1>BONDI sure. I'm sure we did, because that was quite

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<v Speaker 1>a post. Yes, but I can't recall the extent of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation other than did you see this question? To

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<v Speaker 1>your knowledge, did that tweet have any impact on the

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<v Speaker 1>department's decision to release the July memo we previously discussed answer?

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<v Speaker 1>To my knowledge, no question, all right. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to ask a few questions about Glen Maxwell and the

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<v Speaker 1>conditions of her incarceration. This topic was discussed to some extent.

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<v Speaker 1>Bondy jumps in. Can I have a minute to confer question? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, answer there's something I might want. We can

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<v Speaker 1>go off the record for a moment. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a clarification, Bondy, no question. Okay, We're actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a few questions from members that are here, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll turn that over in that direction. Now we have

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<v Speaker 1>mister Garcia asking the questions. Mister Garcia, Miss Bondie, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you again for being here, and again just want to

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<v Speaker 1>reiterate we wish you a full and speedy recovery, so

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for being here, Miss BONDI a couple questions I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start first. There's been a reporting that indicates

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<v Speaker 1>that you had informed President Trump on May twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>that were reviewed by the DOJ. A couple of months later,

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<v Speaker 1>on July seventh of twenty twenty five, which was discussed earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>the DOJ and the FBI released a memo saying that

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<v Speaker 1>no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted. We just

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<v Speaker 1>discussed that. Now, looking at the conversation that was reported

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<v Speaker 1>back in May, why did you tell President Trump he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the files? Bondi. I'm not going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations I did or did not have with the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States, and I've said that multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times on multiple topics throughout my tenure. Garcia, what was

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump's reaction when you had that conversation with him?

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<v Speaker 1>No response. Dylan asked and answered Garcia. Did President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>at any time tell you not to disclose what was

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<v Speaker 1>in the files? Dylan asked and answered, Garcia, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get to Glenn Maxwell. It's clear not answering my questions

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<v Speaker 1>about President Trump about any conversation with President Trump, what

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<v Speaker 1>he may have directed you to do. Is that correct, Bondi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to answer any question any conversations that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had with the President of the United States, whether

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<v Speaker 1>we had them or didn't have them, or the substance, Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's look at the handling of Clen Maxwell. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a convicted sex trafficker. She sentenced to twenty years in

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<v Speaker 1>federal prison. You earlier today called her evil. We can

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<v Speaker 1>agree on that. I wonder, just to re clarify, miss Bondi,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that Maxwell deserves a pardon for her crimes?

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<v Speaker 1>Bondy No, Garcia, Okay, thank you, we agree on that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now I also want to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>about the prison. She was moved to a less secure

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<v Speaker 1>prison you mentioned earlier that it was comparable. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not correct. There are four levels of prison within

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<v Speaker 1>the GOP. She was moved to the minimum level from

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<v Speaker 1>another level, so she was actually moved to a lower

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<v Speaker 1>level less secure facility per BOP. We have an exhibit

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<v Speaker 1>on it. If we need to also share that, our

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<v Speaker 1>council can pass it around. Do you think that she

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<v Speaker 1>should have been moved to a less secure prison, Bondy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think any inmate should be moved somewhere where they

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<v Speaker 1>can be safe, regardless of what crime they committed. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be a question directed at the Bureau of Prisons,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have full faith in Billy Marshall, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the director of the Bureau of Prisons. Garcia, but will

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<v Speaker 1>you acknowledge that she was moved to a less secure facility? Bondy, No,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have no knowledge of that, Garcia. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to make sure that we get that exhibit out,

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the case, she was moved to a

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<v Speaker 1>less secure facility. Do you know if acting ag Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche ordered the move to a less secure facility? Bondy,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no knowledge of that, Garcia. Did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>ask anyone to move Glenn Maxwell to a different prison, Bondy.

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<v Speaker 1>As I stated earlier, I knew she was moved when

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<v Speaker 1>I read it. I guess Onlinor saw it. Garcia, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>did you talk to the acting ag mister Blanche after

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<v Speaker 1>you read it online? Dylan on any topic? Garcia on

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<v Speaker 1>the actual move Glen Maxwell to the less secure facility, BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall. I would direct that though, to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Prisons. I don't recall, Garcia, Okay. I just think, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the move Glenn Maxwell to a less cure facility was everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>was being discussed in the news, a massive, obviously move

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bureau of Prisons ended up making under whose

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<v Speaker 1>direction we still have yet no answer on. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, of course that you don't recall if there

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<v Speaker 1>was ever a conversation. Did you have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bureau of Prisons about the move after what happened, Bondie,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. I ran into them and at an event

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked it was moved to a similar level,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, yes, I believe. But this is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's not unusual. As a career prosecutor, she was on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the news and if she was getting threats,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know even where she was moved where she's

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<v Speaker 1>housed now, but if any defendant at any level is

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<v Speaker 1>getting threats, it's common to move people within the prison system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it wasn't that unusual to me. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute lie, by the way, and also nobody threatening her

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<v Speaker 1>in the honor dorm in Tallahassee. Now you see why

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<v Speaker 1>Pam Bondi didn't want to be under oath. Garcia, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>And would you agree that perhaps the question should have

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<v Speaker 1>been directed at the Bureau of Prisons and to the

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<v Speaker 1>Acting ag Todd Blanche. Bondy, yes, question, okay, And so

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<v Speaker 1>mister Blanche, Bureau of Prisons, that's where the information is at.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing what you Dylan jumps in, I would just know

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<v Speaker 1>a Congressman that mister Blanche actually made those remarks and

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<v Speaker 1>said that during a briefing that you walked out of,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Garcia. So, knowing what you know today, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that miss Maxwell should have been moved to that facility? Bondy? Anytime?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have details, and if she received death threats,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of threats, but anytime an inmate at any

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<v Speaker 1>level is threatened, they will be moved. Well, that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great to hear for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are being threatened in prison right now all over

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Pam Bondy, former AG says, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be moved. Start hitting those petitions up and if you

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<v Speaker 1>have family members in prison, time to start sending letters

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<v Speaker 1>in saying that they're being threatened. So everybody gets moved

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<v Speaker 1>to a camp. That's what Bondi is saying, right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very common among prisons, state and federal to move inmates,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had just recently given a very public interview. Garcia,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Last question. You are aware that, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there was the Epstein File Transparency Act that passed in Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was also an active subpoena that the dj

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<v Speaker 1>did actually not fully respond to. Are you aware of that, Bondy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Could you slow down and repeat that again please, Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're aware that besides the Epstein File Transparency Act

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<v Speaker 1>that passed in Congress signed by the President, prior to that,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an active subpoena passed by an oversight committee

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<v Speaker 1>for the full release of the files, and that those

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<v Speaker 1>two are separate Bondi. Yeah, and that's when we released

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<v Speaker 1>I believe approximately thirty three thousand or over thirty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>She gets cut off by Garcia. Thank you, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue with some additional questions on that. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn this over to Representative Frost. Mister Frost, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. One quick question for clarification for the record.

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<v Speaker 1>The Council kept referring to your participation here as a

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary interview. Are you aware that this committee issued a

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena to you, Bondi, yes. Question. Do you not consider

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<v Speaker 1>this sit down to be complying with that subpoena? Bondi,

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<v Speaker 1>I am no longer attorney general. The subpoena was regarding

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<v Speaker 1>when I was Attorney general. I'm here voluntarily today. She

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<v Speaker 1>gets caught off by Frost. So is it your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>is that you sit she cuts them off to comply

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Frost again, So just to make sure for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, in your opinion, the sit down is not

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<v Speaker 1>to comply with the subpoena, but it's a voluntary interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Have nothing to do with the subpoena issued by the committee, Bondi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to answer any questions that you have that

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<v Speaker 1>I can answer. Regarding Jeffrey Epstein, I also came in

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<v Speaker 1>while I was Attorney General to this committee voluntarily with

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Attorney General at the time, Blanche, who answered many

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<v Speaker 1>of the questions that you're asking now. However, during that hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe many of you, if not all of you left,

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<v Speaker 1>Frost cuts her off. Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And just for a clarification of the record, now she

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<v Speaker 1>cuts him off. So many of those Excuse me, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to interrupt you. Many of those have

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<v Speaker 1>been asked and answered by at the time the Deputy

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Frost. Yeah, thank you, ma'am. And just for

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<v Speaker 1>clarification for the record, you do not see this sit down,

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<v Speaker 1>this voluntary interview, as you call it, as complying with

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<v Speaker 1>the subpoena that the committee issued. You see this as

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<v Speaker 1>a separate thing. Mister Ginn. I'm sure, I'm confident that

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<v Speaker 1>you're aware that the answer to that is actually that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a robust discussion between the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>and this committee about how the Department of Justice would

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill its obligation in responding to the subpoena and this

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<v Speaker 1>sit down interview right now, is the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>compliance with the committee's request to have time to speak

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<v Speaker 1>with the Attorney General? Yeah, because comer hooked her up.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop of the bullshit, mister Frost, so many Just for

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<v Speaker 1>clarification for the record, is the answer, Yes, you do

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<v Speaker 1>see this sit down as complying with the subpoena. Mister Ginn. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the contents of former Attorney General Bondie's testimony do not

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<v Speaker 1>overlap with the content of Counsel's negotiation with you all.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I think the answer to that information

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<v Speaker 1>is really directed to Miss Dillon and myself and the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General. Mister Frost. Okay, So, Miss Bondie, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an answer for that on whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>see this as complying with the subpoena. Miss Dylon, she's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to answer that, mister Frost. Okay, So you

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<v Speaker 1>won't answer the question. Okay, back to the Blain Maxwell transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you aware if President Trump was informed about the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer before it happened? Bondie, I'm not going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>any conversation that I had or did not have with

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<v Speaker 1>the President of the United States on this topic or others.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Frost. Yeah, I understand that, but it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation you might have had with him. My question

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<v Speaker 1>is are you aware if he knew about it before

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, Bondie. I'm not going to discuss any conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that I might have had or not had with the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States, mister Frost. So just for clarification,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you won't answer my question relating to

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<v Speaker 1>conversations you've had with the president, but also any conversations

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<v Speaker 1>you've had about the president. Is that true, Bondy, no question, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So my question has to do with if you're aware

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<v Speaker 1>that he knew about it, not if he told you

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<v Speaker 1>he knew about it. Gin jumps in once again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to object to this entire line of questioning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just argumentative and completely unproductive. Redacted, Council. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a transcribed interview. There are no objections. Frost. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just asking questions and I'm just trying to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of things. Dylan. If members are chewing up their

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<v Speaker 1>time repeating themselves, that is not our problem, Bondi. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not aware of the President having any knowledge of it,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be from reading in the paper or people

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<v Speaker 1>reporting that he did, or talking to anyone about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no knowledge of that, mister. Okay, thank you, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anyone in the administration ever express concern about the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer or urge Bopeter, reverse it, Bondie. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss any conversations that I had or did not

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<v Speaker 1>have with the administration, mister Frost. Okay, thank you, redacted.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a really quick clarification, and it's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>for you all, but more just for the record. The

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<v Speaker 1>reference to the relationship between the subpoena, a deposition, a

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<v Speaker 1>transcribed interview related discussions, we have not been part of

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<v Speaker 1>those discussions and we haven't been read into those discussions,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't actually have any knowledge of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's just for the transcript. Please continue, all right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to wrap up right here, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode we're going to pick up where we left off.

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<v Speaker 1>All the information that goes with this episode can be

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