1 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,359 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:42,960 going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnet. But 4 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,719 before we get started, I want to encourage you, if 5 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:49,439 you enjoy the podcast, to follow us using your favorite 6 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,880 podcast software. Today's program is brought in part by the 7 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,679 financial support of our listeners. You can support the show 8 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:59,520 on a one time basis by mainly a donation to 9 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Adam Graham Pielbox one five nine one three. 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Dragnet honors the fifty 18 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:49,120 seventh Annual Conference of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. 19 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,000 The story you're about to hear is true, only the 20 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,280 names have been changed to protect the innocent. 21 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,319 Speaker 3: You're a detective sergeant. 22 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: You're assigned to burglary detail. 23 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,719 Speaker 2: A man posing as a doctor is burglarizing homes in 24 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:29,400 your city. You have his description, your job find him. 25 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented story of an actual crime. While the 26 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,719 next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 27 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,159 you will travel step by step on the side of 28 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:41,960 the law through an actual case, from official police files, 29 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:46,319 from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 30 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,240 the story of your police force in action. 31 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,319 Speaker 5: It was Sunday, November twenty second, was Chile in Los Angeles. 32 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:56,719 We were working a day watch out of Burgery Detail. 33 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,960 My partner's Ben Romero, the boss's Slad Brown, Chief Detectives. 34 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,080 My name's Friday. It was nine thirty five am when 35 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,240 we got to five nine one eight Canyon Cove, the 36 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,479 home of Marla Hutchins. 37 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,759 Speaker 6: Yes, Miss Marla Hutchins. 38 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:11,479 Speaker 7: I'm Miss Marla Hutchins. 39 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 6: Uh. 40 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 5: We're police officers, ma'am. This is Sergeant Romero. I'm Sergeant Friday, 41 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,319 Central Birgery. 42 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:16,039 Speaker 7: Come in. 43 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,039 Speaker 6: Thank you. 44 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,479 Speaker 7: Betty told me. 45 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 6: She called you your Maney. 46 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:22,599 Speaker 7: Yes, I'm Betty Greg. 47 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,039 Speaker 6: I called you and if you could tell us what happened. 48 00:03:24,719 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 7: Please, Doctor Arthur Shulte was treating me for headaches. I 49 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,599 have he took my mint coaches and my jewelry. 50 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:33,479 Speaker 6: Do you have a list of what's missing? 51 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 8: Betty will have a list of what's missing here. I've 52 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:39,199 written down everything I think sci thank you. 53 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 9: Well. 54 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 6: Why do you say it was this sh doctor Schulte? 55 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,479 Is that right? Yes? Why do you say it was 56 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,039 him that took things? Miss Suchins? 57 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:48,599 Speaker 7: He did it. I know he did it. The doctor 58 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:50,719 was the only other person in the apartment. Officer. 59 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,639 Speaker 6: When was this last night? What time was the doctor 60 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,360 here last night? 61 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:57,599 Speaker 7: It's about eight I heard him leave later about nine fifteen. 62 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 6: That right, Miss Hutchins, Yes, that's right. What could the 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,159 apartment have been entered without either one of you knowing it? 64 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,599 Speaker 8: No, sir, the back entrance is double latched, and no 65 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:08,400 one could have broken in the front way. My room's 66 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:09,840 right beside the front door, and I would have. 67 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:12,159 Speaker 10: Heard you told us on the phone that this doctor 68 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:16,720 Shulete was uh middle age dark rose to five feet eleven. 69 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 6: Stocky And where's it goatee? 70 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 7: Yes? 71 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 6: No other distinguishing fentures is that correct. Yes? How about 72 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:24,360 his clothes? Where he was dressed? 73 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:27,439 Speaker 7: He was about average. He had on a gray suit 74 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,199 the last time, my sun, I don't care. Do you 75 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,879 know who he is? 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,079 Speaker 6: We'll find out. What kind of treatment were you taking 77 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,879 from doctor Shuletay and such as I call it? 78 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 7: I don't know if therapy for. 79 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:42,079 Speaker 5: My head aches last night the same thing, yes, or 80 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,879 anything different from his previous visits. 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 7: I was very nervous. You made me take three sleeping 82 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:48,680 capsules and I went to sleep, and she was. 83 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 8: Still sleeping this morning when I went in and found 84 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,759 everything in the dressing table all over the floor. 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,759 Speaker 6: You see. Have you known this doctor Shultey Long was. 86 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: Huch As about four months. 87 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 6: Did you meet him at a party? Maybe? No? 88 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,639 Speaker 7: I was a student of his. 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 6: But where was this? 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 7: This small college in Hollywood? He was ahead of the school. 91 00:05:06,759 --> 00:05:07,759 He was a teacher too. 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,639 Speaker 6: Do you have the name and address of the college? Bet? 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,399 Speaker 4: He can give it to you. 94 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 7: It's in my desk. 95 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 6: You're still a student there? 96 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 7: No, I don't take the course. 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,199 Speaker 9: I stopped. 98 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 7: College was closed. That's when he came here to treat 99 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,319 me for my head aches. 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 6: How did he start giving any treatments? Miss Sutchins one. 101 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:28,079 Speaker 7: Day in his lecture. I fainted to his office and 102 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,000 told me that Payne was only a state of mind. 103 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:34,879 State of mind, that's my My headache didn't bother me 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,160 any more. He said that relief would only be temporary 105 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:39,680 if I didn't take regular treatments. 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,879 Speaker 6: What did you see him regularly? 107 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 7: I saw him twice a week, twice a week, always here. 108 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 6: At the college. Then it closed. 109 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,639 Speaker 7: I don't know why. He telephoned, said he would continue here. 110 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 6: Well, what did you get in touch with him when 111 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,519 the college closed? 112 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 7: I never did. He always called here. 113 00:05:55,879 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: Do you have any idea where he is now? No? 114 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 7: I just know that he's a thief man. Why don't 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,759 you lie down, Miss Hutchins, You looked tired, all right? 116 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 6: Thank you, Miss Hutchins, Yes, ma'am, thank you very much. 117 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 7: All right? Would you gentlemen like them coffee? 118 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: Oh? Ben, I could chew you so it would be 119 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:20,759 very nice, miss, Thank you. Officer, yes, ma'am. 120 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,079 Speaker 8: If this man's just a common thief, treatments he's been 121 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:27,560 giving Miss Hutchins couldn't have been very good, could they? 122 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:34,519 Speaker 5: She still got the headaches, hasn't she? Eleven fifty am? 123 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,959 We checked the apartment for physical evidence. There was nothing 124 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:39,439 to indicate that the place had been broken into. We 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,480 put in a call the Latent Fingerprints to send a 126 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:42,040 man out. 127 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,639 Speaker 6: To check the closet and dresser. We completed the crime 128 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,959 report and Betty greg the maid, gave us the name and. 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,399 Speaker 5: Address of doctor Shultey's college, the Los Angeles College of 130 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:53,920 Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry, at a Franklin Street number in Hollywood. 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,800 Ben and I got out of teletype to Sacramento asking 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,199 information on the chattering of the school that doctor Shulte 133 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,120 was supposed to have had. We checked on Betty Greg 134 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,120 the maid, and found that she was a Los Angeles 135 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,839 girl parents still living in the city. 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 6: She had a good reputation. Two thirty five pm we 137 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,000 went to the address where the college has been. It 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,360 was a big brown clambered house with several dormer windows 139 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,920 facing the street. Was vacant. The front door was boarded up. 140 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:20,399 Speaker 5: A rental agency sign was stuck up on one of 141 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:21,639 the pillars on the front porch. 142 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 6: Joe room. There must have been where they had glasses. 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,639 Those are chairs nailed down, you see me? Look, yeah, 144 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,079 I don't see any papers inside. 145 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:35,639 Speaker 11: No mail. 146 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:39,839 Speaker 4: Hi yep, my name's Tom Thompson. Interested in the place. 147 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:40,519 Speaker 6: You're the agent? 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 12: No, No, I just lived next door. I'm a dry 149 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,920 cleaner myself, but I sort of promised a real estate agent. 150 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:46,439 I'd keep an eye peels, see if I could be 151 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,240 of help. Anyone came, run shepherd. 152 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 6: Or police officers were just checking home? 153 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: Was there something wrong? Somebody break in? 154 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 6: Did you live next door when this was a school here? 155 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,839 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's psychology punch there here, but ten months maybe last. 156 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,720 I always thought it was kind of a shoe string operation. 157 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,279 Oh you know how much dough they're just make it 158 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:02,560 in me? 159 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:04,959 Speaker 6: No class, you know, always just adults. 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: Well, classes used to be mostly during the day. I 161 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,720 was at work. The wife used to tell me, they're 162 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,680 no kids that cheap or so. 163 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:11,839 Speaker 6: Did you know the man that ran the school? 164 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: No, already. 165 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 12: He was a middle aged guy with a kind of 166 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:17,399 a pointed beard, had a palow younger guy never stopped 167 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:17,639 to talk. 168 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: They're pretty tight up guys, like I said, Why what 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:20,879 they do? 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,639 Speaker 6: A routine investigation? It's done. Do you have any idea 171 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,959 where they might be contacted now? 172 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 12: The interstate agent said they skipped without paying last month's 173 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:28,639 run for him. 174 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: He's been trying to find him. 175 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 6: Do you remember their names? 176 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:32,279 Speaker 4: Oh well, let's. 177 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 12: See when with the older guy. The guy with a 178 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:36,559 beard was named Shultz or something like that. I can't 179 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,639 remember the young fellow though. But hey, wait a minute, 180 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:39,960 wait a minute, I got the door. 181 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:40,759 Speaker 4: How's that? 182 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:42,639 Speaker 12: I got their door? The agent let me have the 183 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:44,519 front door. I'm building a party or ports in the 184 00:08:44,519 --> 00:08:45,960 back of my house. And the glass that I took 185 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,159 out of the doors got the names. 186 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: Lettered on it. 187 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:47,919 Speaker 6: It's time. 188 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: Come on, I'll see if I still. 189 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,879 Speaker 6: Got in the garage. 190 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: It's letter on a little chilly today. 191 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 6: Huh yeah, I. 192 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:00,639 Speaker 4: Want to stand back then, wh h's a door? 193 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,519 Speaker 5: Here we go. 194 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: I like to keep a nice neat garage. 195 00:09:06,519 --> 00:09:07,399 Speaker 6: Sure looks nice. 196 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: Oh thanks? 197 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: Say that these men live in the house, mister Thompson, 198 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:11,720 and they just use it for the school, you know, 199 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,519 oh best on all, just for classes. 200 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: Like I say, they're pretty tight like guys, not very 201 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,159 part and they're real quiet. 202 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:18,639 Speaker 13: Yeah. 203 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,919 Speaker 6: I got just leave it right there. We'll come over there. 204 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:24,879 You wanted to move it. Let's see. 205 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:32,159 Speaker 5: Los Angeles College of Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry doctor Arthur William Shuelta. 206 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 6: Shoelta d A A pH D, s c D. Of 207 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:42,000 course to short doctor Leo George Donaldson d V, PhD, 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,799 s c D. I gut it you okay, it's fine. 209 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,080 We are much obliged, mister Thompson. 210 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: Uh, here's our card. If you hear anything regarding these men, 211 00:09:51,159 --> 00:09:52,240 we'd appreciate. 212 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:52,399 Speaker 6: You calling us. 213 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: Oh sure, sure, I'll be glad to here. 214 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:55,519 Speaker 6: There's my car. 215 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,399 Speaker 12: Oh uh, ideal cleaners over an ive art you get 216 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,600 around that way? Why drive some stuff off? See it 217 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:01,639 gets special attention. 218 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,919 Speaker 6: Well, thank you very much, Miss Tompson. 219 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,919 Speaker 4: No, it's okay, sugar out. I didn't throw that glass away. 220 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,919 Speaker 12: Brother, Look at all of letters after the name is eh, 221 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:11,080 what don't what it takes to get a lineup of 222 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,879 degrees like that paintbrush. 223 00:10:12,919 --> 00:10:18,879 Speaker 5: In about ten minutes five pm, Ben and I drove 224 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,919 back to the office. There was a report from Layton fingerprints, 225 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,919 nothing but the prints of the two girls had been 226 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,159 found in the Hutchins apartment. 227 00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: We checked what information we had on Shuelte and Donaldson 228 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:29,960 through to the FBI on the teletype. 229 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 6: A check of doctors registered with the. 230 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: Los Angeles County Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association 231 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,919 failed to turn up anybody named doctor Shulte. We had 232 00:10:38,919 --> 00:10:41,120 our I Bureau and Stat's office make runs on Leo 233 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,759 Donaldson and Shuelta and a run down on the reports 234 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:46,480 where the burger had posed as a psychologist. The Stat's 235 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:48,440 office turned up a couple of dozen new suspects. 236 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,879 Speaker 6: We pulled the mug shots and headed for the Hutchins apartment. 237 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,600 It's like something doing at the Hutchings apartment. HUF a 238 00:10:57,639 --> 00:11:00,759 lot of Cruiser cars. Huh. I settled up, all right, 239 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:03,639 can't go in. Sorry for Friday Romero Central Burgery. 240 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,279 Speaker 4: Oh sure, sir, what's the teth girl name of Hutchins 241 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:07,000 shot herself? 242 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,279 Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police 243 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,000 force in action. 244 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 5: Monday, November twenty third, during the morning, the Coroner's office 245 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,639 signed off Marla Hutchin's case. 246 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 6: The verdict was that she had taken her own life. 247 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: The police psychiatrist told us that probably the hypnotic treatments 248 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:44,279 by Shulte had hastened her death. The information we'd received 249 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:46,279 from the Medical Association told us that they had had 250 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,360 complaints against. 251 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: The operation of the Shulte school. 252 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 5: They had pointed out to us that it takes over 253 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,080 twelve years and recognized medical schools to become a member 254 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,120 of the American Psychiatric Association. Shiulte had been mass producing 255 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:02,679 pseudo psychiatrists in eight weeks one we met with Captain Pullland. 256 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,879 Speaker 14: School was a phony degrees and diploma sold anybody who 257 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:06,440 had cash. 258 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not operating anymore and we checked that out. 259 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:10,519 They're gone. 260 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,639 Speaker 4: Oh here's the answer to your telettecht Sacramento. 261 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 14: Thank you gives details on the application for the School 262 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,000 of Shureley. He's listed as founder and Dean. Donaldson has 263 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:24,360 listed his staff. No addresses other than the Franklin Street 264 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,080 number that anything else. A month ago, Leo Donaldson opened 265 00:12:29,159 --> 00:12:31,720 courses of construction in Los Angeles under the title of 266 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,000 California Physicians College as Pschiatry seven eighty one South Hill Street. 267 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,519 Speaker 6: Shulton associated with him. No have any idea where Shureley is. 268 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,759 Speaker 5: No, we don't, but we're looking. We've got the support 269 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:45,759 of the medical people to push a BUNCO charge for 270 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,799 the operation of the old school. Donaldson should be able 271 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,919 to give you a lead on Shulty. 272 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 6: Thinks they might be in contact. Looks like they acted 273 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:55,679 and ran the school together. Even though Shulte was legal 274 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,639 response and Ben and I have an idea on well, 275 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,399 maybe we can find out how's that. 276 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:02,759 Speaker 5: We thought one of us could make a pitch to 277 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,919 Donaldson and see if he'd sell a degree from the 278 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,960 new school, get evidence to support a Bunco warrant, and 279 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,159 check at the same time to see if Donaldson has 280 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:11,279 contact with Shuelte. 281 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,879 Speaker 6: I'll let Bunco detail know. We'd try. You think you 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,279 can do it? 283 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: Might try You know anything else about Donaldson's courses. No, 284 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:26,879 that doesn't bother me. Oh come, neither is Donaldson and 285 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,919 trying to get Shulte through his former associate Leo Donaldson. 286 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,039 We again contacted the Medical Association. They furnished this with 287 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,440 the name of Ralph Morse, a graduate of the Franklin 288 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Street School who had since been killed in an auto accident. 289 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,039 Tuesday eleven thirty am, Ben and I get the seven 290 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,559 eighty one South Hill Street, a seventh story office building 291 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,879 in the heart of the Los Angeles business district. The 292 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 directory in the lobby list of the California Positions College 293 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:51,080 of Psychiatry for romans two fourteen and two sixteen. 294 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,279 Speaker 6: Ben waited outside in the car. I took the elevator up. 295 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: Yes, man, I help you. 296 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,399 Speaker 6: Uh, doctor Donaldson, I'm doctor Leo Donaldson. Have you have assistance? 297 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:16,759 Speaker 11: Oh? 298 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:18,799 Speaker 6: My name is Frank Ditton. I wanted to ask about 299 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,679 the curriculum here. 300 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 15: Well, we've just opened, mister Ditton, we're not quite ready 301 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:25,480 to start classes. You understand this is a very advanced instruction. 302 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Most of our students will have had considerable background in psychiatry. 303 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: Oh well, a friend of mine, doctor Morse, said that 304 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,080 they were sure I'd be a good student. 305 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:36,519 Speaker 6: For you, doctor Morse. I'm not sure when I place him. 306 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:38,320 Oh he was one of your students at the Franklin 307 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Street School. Said that. Uh, doctor Schulte know him quite well. 308 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:44,840 Oh oh, yes, yes, I remember. Brilliant man. How's he 309 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,840 getting along? He was killed in a car collision. Oh 310 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,759 that's too bad. 311 00:14:49,679 --> 00:14:51,919 Speaker 5: Well, Frankly, what I was interested in is being able 312 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:54,320 to take over his practice. Could I get the same 313 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:55,000 deal he got? 314 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: I think so, mister Ditton. What'd you have in mind? 315 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,200 We'll take some. 316 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: Courses and get a degree. I worked with Morse for 317 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,279 a while. I can set up a clinic he did. Okay, 318 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:04,559 I figure maybe I can too. 319 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 6: Well, here's a list of the courses we'll offer. Thank you. 320 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,320 We'll over together and you can indicate what sphere of 321 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,840 study you'd like to undertake. Does doctor Schulte teach any 322 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:15,519 of these courses? No, he doesn't. 323 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 15: Now the first semester will include Painless and Druglist, Childbirth, 324 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:23,279 Practical and Applied Psychology out of suggestion, prenatal suggestion. 325 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, well look, doctor Donaldson, straight Practical and Applied psychology 326 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:29,720 is the specialty that I want. 327 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 6: See. Of what degree do I get? And how much 328 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,320 will it cost? 329 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 15: Well, at least expensive. Is a doctor of Psychotherapy at 330 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,559 four hundred and fifty dollars. A Doctor of Philosophy and 331 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Psychology is five hundred dollars for all purposes if you 332 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,440 can afford it. Mister Ditton is a doctorate of Science. 333 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,159 That's eight hundred. That course was a thousand dollars at 334 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:47,159 the Franklin Street School. 335 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't know. It's a lot of money. Yes, 336 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:52,279 I have to have it, though, and if you'd take 337 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,000 a checking. 338 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:56,559 Speaker 15: Out, certainly you understand what a tremendous advantage these degrees 339 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,879 are to the professional man who, for one reason or 340 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:01,639 another may never had a chance to get a college diploma. 341 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,399 Speaker 6: The course is very hard. You look like an intelligent man, 342 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,360 mister Didton. I'm sure you'd have no difficulty. All right, 343 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,960 I'll say, Look, doctor. 344 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: I live out in Van Eyes now, and I'm working 345 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,639 three days a week the present time, it's going to 346 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,120 be pretty tough to get downtown here. 347 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: Do I have to be here every day? 348 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 15: Since it's the diplomas most of our students are interested in, 349 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,480 we have on occasion made exceptions in cases like yours. 350 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:25,360 I appreciate that we could possibly, in the case of 351 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:27,759 a doctorate of science, present you with your diploma in 352 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:29,799 advance if you're taking the course, and you could launch 353 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 into private practice at once, take the course whenever it 354 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:32,559 suited you. 355 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 6: I couldn't ask for a better deal. 356 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,759 Speaker 15: Everything's mentioned in this catalog, and the forums are in 357 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:38,679 the back. Why don't you sit down, I think, Oh, 358 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,399 thank you very much. 359 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:49,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, rules and regulations. No books are required as students, 360 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:50,919 lots of break huh. 361 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 15: We let you a little differently from some colleges, and 362 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,159 therefore we've dispensed with texts because we feel they tend 363 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:56,919 to confuse the data. 364 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,639 Speaker 5: When I take the course, who will be my instructor? 365 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,799 I will well Morse talked a lot about doctor Shulte. 366 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,279 Does he teach any of the classes? 367 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 7: No. 368 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:08,039 Speaker 15: Doctor Schulte was associated with me in the operation of 369 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,759 the Franklin Street School, but is not the staff member 370 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:13,039 of the California Physicians College or Psychiatry. 371 00:17:13,279 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: Well is wondering if I paid extra, could I get 372 00:17:16,039 --> 00:17:17,759 some classes with him? More said that he picked up 373 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:19,279 a lot of useful information from Shulda. 374 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 6: He's a fellow with a goatee, and he yes. 375 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 15: That's right or truthfully, I have no idea where doctor 376 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,680 Shulte is presently located. 377 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 6: Understand, that's one regulation here. 378 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,039 Speaker 5: No student will be admitted who cannot show documentary proof 379 00:17:36,079 --> 00:17:39,720 of the successful completion of secondary school work high school. 380 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 6: You can understand that, can'tier, mister didn't? I mean? 381 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,799 Speaker 15: Well, there are certain minimum academic standards we must observe. Yeah, 382 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,839 in order to maintain the quality of our degree. 383 00:17:53,599 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 5: Doctor Donaldson accepted my check to the amount of eight 384 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,119 hundred dollars. I asked for a receipt, and he filled 385 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,559 out a blank Doctorate of Science degree with she carefully 386 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,000 lettered with the name Frank Ditton and signed himself as dean. 387 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:06,559 I arrested Donaldson and Ben and I took him in 388 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:10,720 for booking. One PM, we received a long teletype from Washington. 389 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:14,119 Arthur Shulte had a record of arrests and convictions back east, 390 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:17,240 and started with a conviction sixteen years ago for the 391 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:21,559 interstate transportation of pornographic motion pictures. The record gave us 392 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:24,640 no known addresses, but important in the information was the 393 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,400 fact that Schulte had originally been trained and had worked 394 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,400 at being a projectionist in movie theaters. In the mo 395 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:32,559 was the notation that he'd been known to take up 396 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:36,279 his old occupation when sought by authorities. One thirty five 397 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,920 PM we contacted the local office of the Motion Picture 398 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,079 Projectionist Union, where they told us that they had placed 399 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,440 in Arthur Shulte in the booth of one of the 400 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,359 main street newsreel houses. On Sunday, that was the day before. 401 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,680 Two thirty pm. The Crescent Theater was buried between two 402 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:53,640 bars and advertised an hour of newsreels and short subjects 403 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,440 for twenty cents. 404 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,519 Speaker 6: Where's the manager? 405 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,759 Speaker 5: I'm him and we talked to him in at police officers. 406 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,960 What I say, we're police officers. 407 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:02,839 Speaker 6: We'd like to talk to you. 408 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:05,759 Speaker 4: Nobody here to take over. Why don't you come in 409 00:19:05,839 --> 00:19:08,319 and I can open the booth door here and talk. Okay, 410 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:19,759 right around the back, I guess here, Ben. Thanks, Hey, mister, okay, 411 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,920 what's the trouble, officers. You have a Madden of the 412 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,759 name of Schulte working here. That's right, projectionist isn't working right, 413 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,240 there's minute though it comes undue the four an hour. 414 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,039 Speaker 6: Alright, I wonder if you'd to take a look at 415 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:36,039 this description, police. Sure, there you are. 416 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: Five eleven man working here's clean shaven, No go tee 417 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,279 inside of that sounds the same? Any idea where he lives? 418 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:47,559 Speaker 14: No, I don't. 419 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 6: Well, we'll have to wait for him here. 420 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: Alright, Wait a minute, This one where you wanna wait inside? 421 00:19:57,319 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 6: Well, I think we'd rather stay up in the projection booth. 422 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: It's all right up the steel stairs there on the right. 423 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,880 Tell Pete, I agen he's the man up there now. 424 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,359 I said it was okay, all right. 425 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 6: Don't say anything to him when he gets you. What 426 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,759 do you say, I won't be yes. This way. 427 00:20:13,519 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 11: It's a long climb, right, yeah, oh yeah, this must 428 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,079 be it. 429 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 5: Hey, mister mister, yeah, police officers, anything wrong, We're gonna 430 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:36,000 have to wait here. The manager said it was Okay, 431 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,240 wait for what. We want to talk to your relief man, 432 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:40,279 I mean the doc. 433 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,559 Speaker 4: You know him just since yesterday? 434 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 6: Why do you call him the doc? Oh? 435 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:47,599 Speaker 4: You know, speaks kind of pantcy for a projectionist. 436 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,759 Speaker 6: What do you do? Oh, we just like to talk 437 00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:50,079 to him. 438 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,559 Speaker 4: Okay, you know the guy doesn't come on for about 439 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:55,079 an hour. Yeah, they told us, hey, you want to 440 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,680 look at the picture. You can both sit by the 441 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,519 observation port on the film safe there. 442 00:20:58,799 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? 443 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 16: Thanks, sit over here, Ben, just all right here? Yeah, huh, Well, 444 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,759 what's the matter. I've seen this news room. 445 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,559 Speaker 6: My for PM. Shoelte was nearly two hours late. Ben 446 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,680 and I were worrying about whether or somehow he'd been 447 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:18,599 tipping us. 448 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:22,759 Speaker 4: Usual for men to be this late for a shift. 449 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:25,839 Not in a house like this. Bigger house would be different. 450 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Wait it is with the doc being late like this, 451 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,920 just coross the boss a couple of bucks. 452 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 11: What do you mean? 453 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: I got more dough? I'm over my maximum hours. The 454 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:36,200 old guy'd stay away long enough, I'd be on golden 455 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,200 golden what's that? Yeah? Double and a half time boys 456 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:42,960 in a business called a golden time. Oh, most of 457 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:45,880 you can get his double golden. You'll get that working 458 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,720 over maximum number of hours after midnight on a Sunday. 459 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:52,279 Uh huh, that's double golden. Never happened to me, though. 460 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,759 Speaker 6: How do you stand? 461 00:21:54,279 --> 00:21:56,519 Speaker 4: What do you mean the money? It's not a noise. 462 00:21:57,079 --> 00:21:59,359 You can get used to it. Don't pay any attention 463 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,160 after a while. 464 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 6: Don't you get tired of hearing the same soundtrack over 465 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:03,519 and over? 466 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: No, you just know it's there. It never registers what 467 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,039 they're saying. I mean, just if it stops when it 468 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:11,799 shouldn't get used to it. Over the years, I've been 469 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,039 doing this wrong, eleven. It's a long time. Excuse me. 470 00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:20,119 I gotta make it switch over. Would you say I 471 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,599 said I gotta make it switch over. I've been watching 472 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,680 you do that all afternoon. 473 00:22:23,799 --> 00:22:25,759 Speaker 6: How do you know when to turn the other projector on? 474 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: Mark's on the film up in the right corner, and 475 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,519 the screen usually a black dot. Look through the window, 476 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,680 look ben right here. The first tells me to start 477 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,519 the other projector when the second dot hits, I cut 478 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:39,799 this one, turn on the other one. Now watch okay, 479 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:49,599 say the first one, uh huh? Now the second dot see. 480 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 6: Uh huh? 481 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: Smooth? You never know the difference. Simple stuff people have 482 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:00,440 never seen. The notice is, which is. 483 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 7: Just a minute? 484 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,599 Speaker 4: Alright, Doc, late, sorry, I overslipt your name Shuldy. 485 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 6: That's right. Police officers would like to talk to you. 486 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: I have to go to work. 487 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,279 Speaker 6: Then, why do you want to go downstairs? 488 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,319 Speaker 4: All right? 489 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 6: That's right, all right, this will be fine. Right here. 490 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,000 You say your name is Shulte, Arthur William Shulte. 491 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,039 Speaker 4: That's correct. 492 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 6: Have you been known by any other name? Why do 493 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,440 you operate a school called the. 494 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: Los Angeles College of Psychotherapeutics and Psychiatry during the past year. 495 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: I'm not saying anything. Where are you living, mister, I'm 496 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:02,640 not saying anything. Let me see your identification? Hey, my wallet? 497 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,799 All right, now you hold it? See ope, my part there. 498 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,480 I take out the car union card. You'll take it 499 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:20,519 stands So it's a security card. That uh, second thing 500 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:23,680 there behind the cash. Yeah, it's trying to pull a 501 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:31,960 piece of paper there. It's just a bill. What is it, Jim, 502 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,279 It's a bill? Millican Hotel, let's go. 503 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 5: We drove to the Millican Hotel, about six blocks from 504 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,440 the theater in the same skid road district. We got 505 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,839 the key from the room clerk and went up to 506 00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:47,200 Shoelta's room looked like any dingy hotel room. A small 507 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,720 foot locker sat at the end of the bed on 508 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,000 the baggage stand. The two suitcases were over by the 509 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,680 closet and sitting on the floor alongside the bureau or 510 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,200 two waist high stacks of books. 511 00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 10: You've got the key to the small drunk I don't 512 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,319 have to submit to this. Let's open it up, hoping 513 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:09,839 at yourself. She's the key, all right, yeah, two main coats. 514 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,279 I'll check the restroom. 515 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 6: Joe, right, that's your property. Doctor. I'm not saying anything. 516 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,039 Just plo those regular stuff. 517 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 11: And girl, how. 518 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 6: About those suitcase of they you got 'em? What do 519 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,680 you got it? How about this? It's a cigar box, 520 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,839 it's taped shut. What's inside? Doctor? Nothing? You would be 521 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:45,359 interested in him? I love him in Joe Shoel take. 522 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 5: Bracelets, rings, matched ear rings that are stolen property reports. 523 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 6: These were gifts. People say you took 'em. They're sick. 524 00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:56,519 I've done them a lot of good that they know. 525 00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 9: They thank me this way. 526 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:01,279 Speaker 6: Well, people I get these things from they know I've 527 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:02,400 helped them. Will you help? 528 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: Marla Hutchins, The story you have just heard was true. 529 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,319 Only the names were changed to protect the innocent. 530 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: Arthur Shulty, free on bail pending trial, died of natural 531 00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:24,599 causes on June fifteenth in Fresno, California. Leo Donaldson was 532 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,000 tried and convicted of grand theft and served a term 533 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:28,839 prescribed by law in the state penitentiary. 534 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,759 Speaker 9: And now here is our star, Jack Webb. 535 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 6: Thank you. 536 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:35,559 Speaker 5: When the rookie policeman becomes a full fledged member of 537 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:36,559 the department, one of the. 538 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,839 Speaker 6: First things he becomes aware of is the time warn 539 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,799 tradition of the peace officer. He has pride in the 540 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:53,880 many works with pride in his job. Ladies and gentlemen, 541 00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:58,039 The Chief of Police of the City of Los Angeles, W. H. 542 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 13: Parker, the Los Angeles Police Department awards this citation of 543 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,799 merit to Dragnet, or its authentic portrayal of cases from 544 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,119 the files of this department, bringing great credit to the 545 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Los Angeles Police Department and its officers, and enhancing the 546 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,279 prestige of law enforcement generally among its millions of listeners. 547 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: Thank you, Chief Parker, you have. 548 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,759 Speaker 3: Just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases from official files. 549 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,680 Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, 550 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:31,960 wh Parker Los Angeles Police Department. 551 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 4: Next, We the People three Times Mean Good Times on NBC. 552 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a solid episode that deals with 553 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,599 a problem that we still have today with diploma mills 554 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,839 churning out unqualified practitioners and offering fraudulent degree. When people 555 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,319 who use big words but are not actually qualified, ethical, 556 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,880 and don't know what they're doing start messing around with 557 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,000 people's minds and bodies, it can really do great harm, 558 00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:16,160 as this episode brings home, and this is yet another 559 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,880 example of Dragnet educating the public about a real problem 560 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,559 and a lesser known threat to public safety. The whole 561 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,000 bit about the movie projectors provides some interesting insight into 562 00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,119 that profession, which I'm sure has changed in the past 563 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:39,960 seventy five years, as have many others. But it's also 564 00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:43,960 probably an area of Jack Webb's particular interest. In Michael 565 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,799 Hayes's book My Name Is Friday, he mentions that on set, 566 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,799 when Web was just working as an actor, he spent 567 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,559 time in between scenes really questioning the various people who 568 00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,440 are working on the film and getting a handle on 569 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:03,640 every aspect of the movie making business. To understand it. 570 00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:07,640 He certainly would have wanted to understand the projection part 571 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,119 of the movie business, and it wouldn't surprise me if 572 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,160 this came from his own research. The award provided at 573 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,400 the end was definitely well earned, and it illustrates that 574 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,240 a year in to its production, Dragnet already had this 575 00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:29,400 special place in popular culture and certainly in its relationship 576 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920 with the Los Angeles Police Department. Well, now it's time 577 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,039 to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and I 578 00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,400 want to go ahead and thank Ron, Ron'sman, one of 579 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,559 our Patreon supporters since March of twenty twenty two, currently 580 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720 supporting the podcast at the shawmus level of four dollars 581 00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,759 or more per month. Thank you so much for your support, Ron, 582 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,240 and that will actually do it for today. If you're 583 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,240 enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast 584 00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:57,960 software and be sure to rate and review the podcast 585 00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:01,680 wherever you download it from. Back next Saturday with another 586 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:07,039 episode of Dragonnett. Join us on Tuesday for a previously 587 00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,279 uncirculated horsetone of the Desk Squad, and of course tomorrow 588 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,880 is our Sunday replay, but our whole regular lineup gets 589 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,400 properly restarted on Monday, when we will bring you The 590 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:21,200 Adventures of the Falcon. 591 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,799 Speaker 9: Where and uh, you're Vicky Terrence. 592 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 17: I heard you're a good detective, but that's kind of 593 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:27,599 stretching it. 594 00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:29,839 Speaker 9: Why I've just been looking at a picture of you 595 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,319 and O'Hara nightclubbing together. 596 00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:32,799 Speaker 17: I didn't know he'd been published. 597 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 9: Now you don't read the police because that well, no, 598 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,559 why do you want a detective? Well, mister Waring, call 599 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,480 me Mike. I'll call you Vicky. I'm not so Haarah. 600 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,599 Speaker 17: Objects don't worry about Joey. He's a lion in the ring, 601 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,640 but a lamb out of it. 602 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:51,799 Speaker 9: If he was a little bull peep, I can believe it. 603 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:53,640 But back to business. 604 00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 17: Well, Mike, there's a there's a fellow I used to 605 00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,640 go with in Detroit, Ken Floyd. He's come to New 606 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,920 York wants to make trouble between me and Joey. He 607 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,359 has some wacky yawn. He's threatened to tell Joey what 608 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:08,400 John hasn't anything to do with what I want. 609 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 9: You for think. I found out when people who want 610 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:12,960 to hire me start holding out on me. 611 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 17: I'm not holding out, but I'm beginning to wonder if 612 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,400 I didn't make a mistake coming here, and I. 613 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,119 Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, send 614 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,079 your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot net, follow 615 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,680 us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us out 616 00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:38,279 on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 617 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400 This is your host, Adam graham Son and Off.