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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>So we wrapped up the three o'clock hour mentioning the

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<v Speaker 2>crazy trade in the NBA on Saturday night that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem real, but in fact, Israel, you've got Luka Doncik

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<v Speaker 2>heading to the Lakers and Anthony Davis going to Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't remember me. Obviously, we're getting close to

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline, and that's usually when trades, of course

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<v Speaker 2>get talked about more than they ever do. But that,

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<v Speaker 2>of course was a huge trade, and the deadline is

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<v Speaker 2>coming up on the six later this week, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It just kind of feels like everybody covering

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA is anticipating, like another big move. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you could put one together that would be bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than what we just had with Davis and Donk Dunchick.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this is from Front Office Sports that multiple

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<v Speaker 2>NBA teams have adjusted flights on their February six games

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid potential awkward situations from being in the air

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<v Speaker 2>when the trade deadline passes. So when they say awkward

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<v Speaker 2>situations from being in the air, you know what they mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not not.

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<v Speaker 3>The high club.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's yeah, that, but it's also not because they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to make sure they can like connect

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<v Speaker 2>and discuss a deal and get a deal finalized. It's

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't want to be on the plane with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who you're essentially firing. I mean, you're I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>trading somebody is is kind of like firing him, isn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a kind of like a we don't want you anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>we see value in something else that we're getting for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, I don't really have any sympathy

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody in the NBA that gets traded when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to just like their overall situation. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you even if it wasn't something about like

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<v Speaker 2>your family, like it had become home, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to stay, and you just have say so

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<v Speaker 2>because they can trade your contract. I mean that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bummer. But like, you know, knowing somebody doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>you and they think they could be better without you

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<v Speaker 2>would be a tough thing to take. And oftentimes as fans,

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<v Speaker 2>we never really wrap. We never really First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't because we can't relate. Most of us that

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<v Speaker 2>consume it and are obsessed with it probably didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>at that high of a level because you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>many people on the planet are able to play pro

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<v Speaker 2>sports in the NBA, the NFL and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But because it's you know how it is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just hard to sometimes remember that you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>are I don't want to say it's hard to remember

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<v Speaker 2>that they're humans, you know that, but I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>never even think about comparisons, understandably so about their job

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<v Speaker 2>and what they do compared to yours because again different planets. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it is still their job, and you know it would

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<v Speaker 2>be tough for anybody to take that. But yeah, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>The sixth is the deadline, so maybe there will be

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<v Speaker 2>another big move made. All right, some breaking news here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that I think came out right as

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<v Speaker 2>the show started and I had not checked on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>But Leonard Hamilton is going to step down at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks as if he's going to finish out

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<v Speaker 2>this season and will resign when the season comes to

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<v Speaker 2>an end. I'm just reading here from the press release.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to mention his record of four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six and two hundred and ninety and obviously had

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<v Speaker 2>some good teams, but that that that thing kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fell pretty quickly. I remember Florida State is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those teams that when the tournament didn't happen right, like

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<v Speaker 2>it just we had a global pandemic that really not

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere, but I mean the amount of changes

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<v Speaker 2>made as far as schedule, sports, live events, people being

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<v Speaker 2>around each other. I mean, you know, I remember going

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<v Speaker 2>taking off for Greensboro for the ACC basketball tournament, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I got to Greensboro, they said no

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<v Speaker 2>fans at the SEC. The ACC hadn't made a decision yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So like it was a really really quick moving thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if, you know, even if it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>way that happened, that's going to be such a forgettable

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<v Speaker 2>season for a lot of people, for you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>obvious reasons. But Florida State's one of those teams that

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think could have had a deep run in

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament for the first time like ever. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Leonard Hamilton never went to a final four,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what his furthest trip to the

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<v Speaker 2>tournament was. I'm seeing he has gone to the Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen a couple of times. He did make the Elite

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<v Speaker 2>eight in twenty eighteen, So look, he had a good

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<v Speaker 2>run there, coached there a long time, and I'd say

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<v Speaker 2>this is probably the right move in Florida State.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good enough job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's elite, but Florida State they're one

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<v Speaker 2>of those programs that with this change, I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>they can only get better. I don't know how good

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be, but there's like five or six teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC that maybe aren't ever going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the real leaders of the conference when it comes to basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they're good and it's rather consistent, then like

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<v Speaker 2>that could make the ACC back to becoming one of

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<v Speaker 2>the better leagues in college basketball. Because you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina's dukes in laws. Louisville's are always going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to be really good in basketball meeting. They're not going

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<v Speaker 2>like Louisville got rid of a coach in two years now.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an insanely bad two years. But there's no

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<v Speaker 2>scenario where Louis Louisville is not committed to making basketball great.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be and you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any worries about that in the future. Duke and Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say the same thing. Virginia, you know who they hire,

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<v Speaker 2>because they can be really good. Tony Bennett proved that

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<v Speaker 2>now kind of weird knowing it was just the way

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<v Speaker 2>he did it, and he was a very unique coach.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a handful of teams that you just know

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<v Speaker 2>are always going to at least try to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be for example, Louisville, ever is as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>they were the last two years. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 2>I highly doubt that ever happens. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the Duke Carolinas. And then you've got teams that you

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<v Speaker 2>know you'll never really expect to make you good, like

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College teams like that probably Smull, not SMU, but

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<v Speaker 2>probably in basketball cal But then you've got others that

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<v Speaker 2>you know can be good in the right situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>now we've got the Miami job open, the Florida state

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<v Speaker 2>jobs going to be open, Virginia's open. Syracuse certainly has

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<v Speaker 2>to consider moving on from red art reht Is it Autrey,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is who took over for Beheim. So

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<v Speaker 2>those are four jobs right there that I mean in

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<v Speaker 2>this new world, let me look at what pack Kelsey did.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying these programs all have the same

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<v Speaker 2>resources that Louisville does, but I mean, you hire a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that can win, and he can bring his formula there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he can utilize resources to bring in some good

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<v Speaker 2>players via the portal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to be too tough to get things

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<v Speaker 2>So I do believe, as much as I've been hard

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<v Speaker 2>on the acc and how, I just think it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody really saw this coming when I've been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's been pretty obvious this league's been slipping

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<v Speaker 2>big time in basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>But with all that bitching that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do about it, I do think that in four

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<v Speaker 2>or five years, it'd be a real shocker to me

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<v Speaker 2>if the league is maybe not the best league in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball, but clearly in a much better situation than

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<v Speaker 2>they are right now. All Right, it's coffee and Company.

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<v Speaker 2>We are feel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you hanging out with us. As you could expect,

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<v Speaker 2>we have talked a lot about the weekend. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 2>is Super Bowl week, but probably not going to touch

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<v Speaker 2>on that a whole lot today.

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<v Speaker 3>We got the rest of the week to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we always react to the weekend, and the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>was not good for both Louisville and Kentucky fans. And

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Louisville, you know, I I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say I told you so, because again I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no reason to believe Louisville would would lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a reason they were favored. And I

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<v Speaker 2>still think that those two teams play each other ten times,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd still think Louisville was gonna win more than they

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<v Speaker 2>were gonna lose. But you know, Georgia Tech made a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of really tough shots. Louisville missed free throws and

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<v Speaker 2>key moments. I thought something that I haven't heard talked

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<v Speaker 2>about a whole lot is that they were called for fouls.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me pull up the numbers here just to see,

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<v Speaker 2>just to see what it ended up being. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to foul trouble, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really remember anybody. Let's see here, let's see, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course I can never find Yeah, here we go. So

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<v Speaker 2>you had Javon Hadley foul out late, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that was something to monitor. James Scott had for Rain

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<v Speaker 2>had four, Chucky had three. So I would say the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen total fouls called. I don't know where that fits

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<v Speaker 2>on their average, but I think one thing that it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got me not worried, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has been pretty good early on at Chucky more

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody, being able to just kind of set the tone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying he gets away with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of fouls, but there are times where I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>if they did call a foul, I couldn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be shocked. So there's no doubt, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>something that kind of annoys me. But when people say,

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<v Speaker 2>look we saw against wake Forest. If you take Chucky,

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<v Speaker 2>hepburn off the floor. I mean, this is a different team,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what, you're right, but you literally could

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<v Speaker 2>say that about every team who has like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that makes them go. I mean, when your best player

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<v Speaker 2>is your point guard and he's also a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>is one of your leading scorers and he's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best distributors in the country, any team in that situation,

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<v Speaker 2>if that guy's not playing, it's going to impact them

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<v Speaker 2>in a major way. So like that's always been the case.

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<v Speaker 2>But with Chucky, I think we've been able to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>him being in foul trouble to where he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>sit a lot of men. It's because, look, Louisville, this

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<v Speaker 2>has always been the case, right before they started the

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<v Speaker 2>win streak in today, Chucky was going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>real big piece and he's going to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a big piece to what Louisville's doing if they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have success. And he finished with seventeen. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to see the breakdown here in halves, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Chucky in the second half just made just one bucket

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of felt like, I mean, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not picking on Chucky at all, you guys know, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody watching knows how good he's been for Louisville, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where the hell they'd be if they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have him. But I did feel like the Chucky

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of And I'll give Austin some credit here

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<v Speaker 2>because he mentioned this to me whenever whenever Louisville lost too,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Ole miss and even the Duke game,

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't bagging on Chucky, But you mentioned sort of

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened against Georgia Tech. I'm not saying like

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<v Speaker 2>he was rattled, but Georgia Tech had some guys just

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<v Speaker 2>making tough shot after tough shot, and Chucky was really

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive in the first half, five of nine, three of

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<v Speaker 2>five from three. And look, sometimes you chalk it up

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<v Speaker 2>and you just give the other team credit because they

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<v Speaker 2>found a way to keep him from killing them. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I see that Chuck, he only took five shots

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<v Speaker 2>and only made one of them, and then he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>actually he had a bucket and he had two free

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<v Speaker 2>throws and of minus nineteen in the plus minus in

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<v Speaker 2>the second half. So that that right there is a

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<v Speaker 2>real situation if Chucky is is and again he's had

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<v Speaker 2>games where he's shot poorly and you don't even remember

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<v Speaker 2>it because you're like, you kid me, that guy was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most impactful players out there. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>we won because of him. Well, sometimes he does that

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<v Speaker 2>and he's three of eleven, and that's okay, because if

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<v Speaker 2>he's aggressive NonStop and he has a bad shooting night.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Louisville more often than not is.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be able to get by because they got other

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<v Speaker 2>guys that can score and he can distribute. But whenever

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<v Speaker 2>he's not aggressive and he's only taken five shots, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't think that's that's ideal. Now again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not being critical. Obviously, it was a hell of a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a game for Javon Hadley, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>even Terrence Edwards. I mean Terrence said Wards overall, he

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<v Speaker 2>had a bigger first half than anything, But I mean, overall,

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<v Speaker 2>Terrence Edwards is going eight of sixteen, three of six

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<v Speaker 2>from three point range. You know that's a good thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chucky doesn't have to do a whole lot, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's just got to stay aggressive. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I didn't go back and watch it because

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<v Speaker 2>why would I want to torture myself to watch a

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<v Speaker 2>loss over again. But it just kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 2>late in the game, he just Chucky wasn't making as

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<v Speaker 2>much of an impact as we typically seed where he

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit passive, and you know what, that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen, because, if anything, he was due for maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a game like this because he has relied upon so

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<v Speaker 2>much so, and it's been clear really since day one

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<v Speaker 2>that Louisville was going to go as far as he

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<v Speaker 2>could take them, right even whenever, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to minimize the absence of Case in prior, but whenever

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<v Speaker 2>he got hurt, I think people were of the belief that,

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<v Speaker 2>like that was the last guy you needed to lose,

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<v Speaker 2>and no offense to Case and but no, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it was always Chucky. So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>bummed about the loss, But I think this group will

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<v Speaker 2>come back ready to play on Wednesday against Boston College

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<v Speaker 2>and I and be surprised at all if they put

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<v Speaker 2>together a good win streak here. But one thing that is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that is just the facts. It's really not

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion. It's just what it is. That loss hurt

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<v Speaker 2>them when it comes to the resume. It's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that puts them on the outside looking in or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But you now have a lower potential ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to your seed line because of this

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<v Speaker 2>loss and no other real opportunities in the regular season

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<v Speaker 2>to get wins that are gonna really do much for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't control that, right, you go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and play who's on the schedule and try to.

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<v Speaker 3>Win every game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this group, as much as it sounds cliche

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<v Speaker 2>and it's what you hear every coach say, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think they've always been pretty good about, Hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna we're gonna stick with we're one game at

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<v Speaker 2>a time. We are quite literally, I mean Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>said it, but I think they really do run with

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<v Speaker 2>it that the next game, whoever it is against, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most important game in the history of the program because

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<v Speaker 2>it's next. And I think, again, the maturity of this

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<v Speaker 2>group that they've shown throughout, I expect them to bounce

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<v Speaker 2>back from this. But again, you really can't afford to

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<v Speaker 2>slip up to a team like Georgia Tech more than once, probably,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't want to do it at all, But

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<v Speaker 2>like I think, if you do it twice, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it really changes how you're viewed in a major way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't expect that they will do that. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>just the visual of seeing this team lose to a

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<v Speaker 2>team like Georgia Tech, you know, it's just a reminder that, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they got to come ready to play. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody on the text line mentioned this earlier that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has become the hunted. I mean, Louisville is always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a program. Well I guess outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years that if you beat them, it's

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<v Speaker 2>better than beating most teams now, but clearly louisll has

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<v Speaker 2>been really bad. I would say, this a ranked team

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<v Speaker 2>in your house and your Georgia Tech, that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, I don't think we're their super Bowl, but

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you're gonna there's gonna be more I guess to

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<v Speaker 2>gain by beating a ranked team because there's clearly just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the perception is that there's more value there.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it's not the Louisville brand or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but knowing, hey, in the longer, you let teams like

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<v Speaker 2>that hang around. That's how this happens. Right, Louisville I

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<v Speaker 2>think withstood a couple of runs from Georgia Tech as

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<v Speaker 2>far as where they just got hot and Pat had

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<v Speaker 2>to call a time out. But then late, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech continued to kind of make tough shots that

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, I mean, maybe it's just the way

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<v Speaker 2>I want to remember it, but I feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the shots they made were just really tough

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<v Speaker 2>shots well defended. Now, again, there were some other buckets

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<v Speaker 2>that they got where you're thinking, how's he get to

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<v Speaker 2>the rim like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Or how did he not? How was how was there

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<v Speaker 3>not a better contest on that shot?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying they were perfect, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech just made some tough shots early, they made

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<v Speaker 2>tough shots late, and then when Louisville's missing shots around

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<v Speaker 2>the rim that you know, you know are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be crucial and then you miss free throws, That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>how these things happen. But again, I still think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a group that has I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 2>no chance of missing the tournament, but put it this way,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is repetitive at this point, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same today as I did a week ago, just

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<v Speaker 2>because we've known this team was vulnerable and they could

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<v Speaker 2>lose these games if you know, if they're not careful,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, sometimes you you know, I I

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<v Speaker 2>know there's some people that and I'll just share with

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<v Speaker 2>you really quickly here. Somebody's like, we would have crushed

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne for this loss. Why are we not crushing

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey? I mean like I is that is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I taking the bait here by like the Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's Yeah, I mean like I'm taking the bait by

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<v Speaker 2>even acknowledging that. But one thing I wanted to run

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<v Speaker 2>with that, other than just the nonsense about any comparison

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<v Speaker 2>between these two coaches, is we have an arrogance about

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves as a program to an extent to where a

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<v Speaker 2>loss to a Georgia Tech team that has nine wins

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, like a lot of people are like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care, they're not good. We should win, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they That's what they say, And I understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like sometimes dudes just get hot and play

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<v Speaker 2>really well, and I think Louisville was a reason for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I'm willing to give Georgia Tech a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of credit here because I thought they showed that.

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<v Speaker 3>They you know, they were in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>They made some big plays that really swung momentum, and

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<v Speaker 2>then from there they were able to you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to uh to hold on and win. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>quick break what I want to get you on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side, more about the Lexington return for John Caliperry.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only the game itself. But man, the former players

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<v Speaker 2>that decided to not necessarily be anti Kentucky but make

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<v Speaker 2>it clear that they are still going to support John

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<v Speaker 2>Caliperry and they're going to support him and you while

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<v Speaker 2>they're why you all are playing each other like that

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<v Speaker 2>clearly has ruffled some feathers. So we'll get to that

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one of the things I talked about at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the show when we were mentioning the

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville loss is, you know, there's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>elements to the revival process, right like Louisville fans remembering

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like to watch a team play hard and

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, hey, we're going to the tournament and just

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<v Speaker 2>feel good right, good energy. I mean, January was a

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal month, and really things have been pretty good, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>really good I think since Pat Kelsey got hired up

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<v Speaker 2>to this point. But he lost a game for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time as our coach that he wasn't supposed to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that was not a good loss by any means.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so I'll bring all that up to said

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<v Speaker 2>that I've kind of been avoiding bracketology because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have to see what these bracketologists are saying

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<v Speaker 2>about Louisville as far as what it did to the resume.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did see too earlier that had Louisville on

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<v Speaker 2>the eight line, which is understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>But then Lonardi, for what it's worth, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Much of anything because he doesn't actually see the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did not hold them as accountable for that

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<v Speaker 2>loss as some others because he still has Louisville as

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<v Speaker 2>a seven seed, and so they are down from a

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<v Speaker 2>five to a seven. They did drop, but again eight

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<v Speaker 2>also wouldn't be crazy. But he has Louisville as the

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<v Speaker 2>number twenty seven overall seed right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, not a good loss.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you just have that one and you still

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<v Speaker 2>can finish strong and look, I feel silly now saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they should win every game that's left, but they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be expected to win every game that's left, and

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<v Speaker 2>it says more about your opponents than it does. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the reminder that they can be beat that they just happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly that's going to I mean, that makes them look

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<v Speaker 2>I guess more. I mean, it proves that they can

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<v Speaker 2>lose to those kind of teams, but I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>always known that, and also even with that loss now there,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not change the script here. I think we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>what this team can do against teams substantially better than

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech. So let's just hold out hope that they

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<v Speaker 2>get back on the winning side and keep it rolling again.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for Kentucky again, they have such a such a

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<v Speaker 2>weird resume. Man, that loss on Saturday is easily they're worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, both teams, Louisville Kentucky, no doubt about it,

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<v Speaker 2>not only took bad losses, but they're easily the worst

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<v Speaker 2>losses of the season for these teams. And it's really

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<v Speaker 2>not even close. I mean Kentucky, I mean, what a resume.

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<v Speaker 2>They have losses to Arkansas, who's forty seventh, Vandy who's fiftieth,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech who's fortieth, Ohio State who's twenty sixth, Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>who's twenty seven. So I'm referencing the kin Palm numbers there.

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<v Speaker 2>But Ohio State. They're probably not a tournament team. Georgia

418
00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:14.960
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like it right now. Vandy they're in Arkansas. No,

419
00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.160
<v Speaker 2>So again, they're not terrible losses, especially when you consider

420
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<v Speaker 2>the metrics. But I mean, you lose to those teams,

421
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<v Speaker 2>but then you turn around and yeah, you got do girly.

422
00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:26.039
<v Speaker 2>But still that's a win that counts. It's got a

423
00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of value. You beat Gonzaga, which that also doesn't

424
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<v Speaker 2>look as impressive now because they Gonzaga, by the way,

425
00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:34.319
<v Speaker 2>this year has taken a bigger slide than I think

426
00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.559
<v Speaker 2>people realize. But you know, they're on the other side

427
00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of the country and we never watch them play. But still,

428
00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a good win. Beat Florida, who's a

429
00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.400
<v Speaker 2>top five team, beat Tennessee at Tennessee, who then bounced

430
00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:47.559
<v Speaker 2>back and beat the hell out of Florida the next

431
00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.960
<v Speaker 2>game after Kentucky got them. I mean, beating A and

432
00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:53.359
<v Speaker 2>M at home, that's a huge win Mississippi State on

433
00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:57.519
<v Speaker 2>the road. So Kentucky, I mean, I feel like if

434
00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:02.960
<v Speaker 2>you remove I mean they've got six losses and such

435
00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.839
<v Speaker 2>valuable wins. I mean, they're a couple of games away,

436
00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Like for example, if they hold on and beat Clemson,

437
00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.839
<v Speaker 2>or let's say they hold on and beat Bama, or

438
00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:15.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe they just don't slip up and lose to Arkansas.

439
00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like they're close to a one seed,

440
00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.799
<v Speaker 2>probably a two at that point, but their wins are

441
00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.559
<v Speaker 2>so valuable and their losses aren't terrible other than Arkansas.

442
00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:29.799
<v Speaker 2>But then again, like there's still you know, teams that

443
00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:33.359
<v Speaker 2>you know they should beat. So right now, again, Lenardi

444
00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.960
<v Speaker 2>has them even after their loss to their worst loss

445
00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.400
<v Speaker 2>of the season, he still has them sitting to a

446
00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:41.880
<v Speaker 2>three seed and the number eleven overall seeds. So currently

447
00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:47.400
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to conferences, you've got three currently in

448
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<v Speaker 2>right I guess four currently in right now in the

449
00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:53.240
<v Speaker 2>AC seed Duke one seed, Louisville seven seed, Clemson eight seed,

450
00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.519
<v Speaker 2>and then Pittsburgh is listed in the last four in

451
00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:58.720
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina is listed in the first four out, Wake

452
00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Forest is in the next four out out and also

453
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.720
<v Speaker 2>SMU is in the next four round. So it'll be

454
00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.319
<v Speaker 2>wild to see and I and this this will be

455
00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:12.400
<v Speaker 2>ACC fans telling on themselves because there's a scenario where

456
00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:16.039
<v Speaker 2>if the bubble just happens to roll a different a

457
00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:20.400
<v Speaker 2>certain way, all those teams could get in smu Way,

458
00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.480
<v Speaker 2>But like, can you really claim the haters were wrong

459
00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:27.319
<v Speaker 2>if you will only have like two teams safely in.

460
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:29.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, all those teams could not make it

461
00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:31.920
<v Speaker 2>too but anyways, that's where you that's where how it

462
00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.519
<v Speaker 2>currently looks in the ACC. And then the Big twelve,

463
00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean quietly having another really good season. It's just

464
00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:41.359
<v Speaker 2>been overshadowed by how good the SEC is. So Iowa

465
00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.839
<v Speaker 2>State is a two seed, number five overall, Houston also

466
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a two seed, Kansas a three seed, Texas Tech a

467
00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.680
<v Speaker 2>four seed, Arizona up to a five seed, and then

468
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.599
<v Speaker 2>you've got Baylor West Virginia getting in still, and then

469
00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.160
<v Speaker 2>bubble teams are BYU and US and UCF. And then

470
00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:59.240
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC, I mean, they've got six teams that

471
00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:01.680
<v Speaker 2>are that they're really even if they tried to miss

472
00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the tournament they couldn't. And that's Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, Texas,

473
00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:08.480
<v Speaker 2>A and M and Kentucky and then Missouri and Ole

474
00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.519
<v Speaker 2>miss safely in as top five seeds. Right now, I

475
00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 2>would say Mississippi State they're in as a sixth seed.

476
00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:16.759
<v Speaker 2>And then after that you I mean, like the fact

477
00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:23.160
<v Speaker 2>that Georgia Vandy and Oklahoma are all listed as nine, ten,

478
00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.799
<v Speaker 2>and eleven seeds, and Texas is a non seed. I mean,

479
00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.720
<v Speaker 2>hard to claim those teams don't belong because of how

480
00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:31.519
<v Speaker 2>good the league was in the non conference. Like Georgia

481
00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>has taken their lumps, they've had a rough go at it,

482
00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.039
<v Speaker 2>but you know they're still in because in the non

483
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:38.519
<v Speaker 2>conference they had some good wins, including like I think

484
00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.640
<v Speaker 2>they're the last team to beat Rick Patino in Saint John's,

485
00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:47.160
<v Speaker 2>which tells you how hot his team has been. So again,

486
00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I think for Louisville right now you're ceiling. I guess

487
00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it could still be four, but I think you'd need

488
00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to like went out and then get to you know,

489
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.200
<v Speaker 2>get to one of the games in the ACC tournament

490
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.799
<v Speaker 2>where you could get some value if you win, and

491
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.400
<v Speaker 2>if you lose, it's not going to be like a

492
00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not going to crush your resume. Maybe

493
00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong though, Like maybe they could get higher than that,

494
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:12.559
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. I mean, I guess if they

495
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.359
<v Speaker 2>went out and they just start stacking up a bunch

496
00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.880
<v Speaker 2>of wins even though they're against bad teams, maybe they

497
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:18.799
<v Speaker 2>could you know, maybe maybe maybe the resume would be

498
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.160
<v Speaker 2>more impressive than that I'm giving it credit for. But

499
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.519
<v Speaker 2>what comes to mind for me is that there was

500
00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:29.039
<v Speaker 2>something that could be said about the resume prior to

501
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Saturday that that was valuable, but now you can't say

502
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>it because it's not true. Louisville does have a bad loss,

503
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.640
<v Speaker 2>whereas before that they didn't. So that's kind of where

504
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they're sealing us lowered a little bit.

505
00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 2>And look, Kentucky caets still get a one seed with

506
00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.240
<v Speaker 2>everything that's left in front of them. But one thing

507
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.279
<v Speaker 2>that they got to figure out is, I mean, how

508
00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 2>healthy can they be because not having Lamont Butler play

509
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>car clearly is just not healthy. They've they've been without

510
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Cresa for quite some time, so I mean I just

511
00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>thought visually they looked like they were like much less

512
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>talented and much less athletic than Arkansas. And look, Arkansas

513
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>despite having a bad record and not being a very

514
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 2>good team as far as results, I mean, they're always

515
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna have talent on athleticism, but they've lost to teams

516
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.640
<v Speaker 2>that clearly are a lot worse than Kentucky. But that

517
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>was the first time I watched Kentucky and felt like, okay,

518
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.279
<v Speaker 2>with how good the SEC is like, they're probably going

519
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 2>to run into some teams that they just can't match

520
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>up with because the SEC's loaded and they're missing some

521
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:26.799
<v Speaker 2>guys that they really need.

522
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Now. Also, anytime it seems.

523
00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Like well they like for example, this has been pretty

524
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 2>consistent for Mark Pope. Anytime they've had a really tough

525
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 2>game coming up that's coming off of a loss, they

526
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:44.319
<v Speaker 2>find a way to win. I mean, Pope has won

527
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 2>games that have a lot of value in one games

528
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.039
<v Speaker 2>that really I don't say nobody gave them a chance.

529
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a Kentucky team. They've been really top

530
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:52.519
<v Speaker 2>ten all year, so they've always got a chance. But

531
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you know when they ended up who was.

532
00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:57.079
<v Speaker 3>It who they lost to? They lost to Georgia.

533
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:58.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're going on the road and playing and

534
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.799
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking, okay, we well, man, if you lose

535
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:03.079
<v Speaker 2>on the road to Georgia, now you've got to go

536
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 2>on the road to play Mississippi State.

537
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Good luck.

538
00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Well they ended up going there and beating them. That's

539
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that that wasn't a win that I

540
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 2>think there was a whole lot of expectation for. I mean, honestly,

541
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess Ohio State, right they beat them by twenty

542
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and then their next challenge was going to be Florida

543
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>in January fourth. They won that game in a close one. Son,

544
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't re act like they were just left for

545
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:28.440
<v Speaker 2>dead in these moments, but they've they've had losses that

546
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>would make you feel like if they could lose to

547
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 2>this team, man, they're going to have a really tough

548
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 2>time beating the likes of Florida, Mississippi State at their place,

549
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, Tennessee on the road, and yet they've they've

550
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>been able to win those games. So they've got Old

551
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Miss tomorrow. So again, what I'm getting at is if

552
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>they win tomorrow at Ole Misigans Chris Beard, I mean,

553
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 2>can we say we're that surprised because that's kind of

554
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.920
<v Speaker 2>what they've done, which, again, more than anything, speaks.

555
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 3>To how good of a coach Mark Pope is.

556
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>He's clearly not perfect, and I'm sure he's doing things

557
00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>strategically that fans don't love, but I mean he's also

558
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 2>getting great results. But one thing he's got to figure

559
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.839
<v Speaker 2>out is is his rotation. And this is something that

560
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 2>both Pat Kelcey and Mark Pope are alike in they

561
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>want to play as many guys as they can because

562
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>they want to play as many possessions as possible. They

563
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>want to be able to go to a fresh guy

564
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 2>or maybe bringing three guys off the bench, and you

565
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 2>still play that same pace like everybody can play that style.

566
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 2>That's what both coaches want to do. Louisville, you know

567
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>they were deep early on, when then you know they

568
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>weren't right they lost. I mean they didn't have Trey

569
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Roy for a long time. Prior only played a few games,

570
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>and obviously Corn Johnson only played one game. So you know,

571
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>you're forced to just kind of figure out your lineup right.

572
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't have any option to really go to the

573
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>bench because you don't have one. Therefore, guys are going to,

574
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.039
<v Speaker 2>i think, have a better ability to kind of define

575
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>their role so with I mean, if they're not getting it,

576
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>sounds like mat La mont Butler maybe out for a while.

577
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>But and that clearly changes things. But one thing that

578
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 2>just seems to be like a head scratcher for me

579
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.200
<v Speaker 2>is when Pope goes to his bench. I mean, I

580
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>just don't understand the combent. Like to me, there shouldn't

581
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 2>be many games where you have Colin Chandler and Travis

582
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Perry and Annsley almanor like all on the floor together.

583
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>That to me just seems like you could be really

584
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable against teams, you know, like Arkansas.

585
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 3>With that with that trio out there, like.

586
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, like for Louisville, even if they had, like

587
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>put it this way, Let's say Chucky was doing what

588
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.319
<v Speaker 2>he's doing and Rain, you know, was having the season

589
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>he's having. I mean, they're in good rhythm. Those guys

590
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:38.920
<v Speaker 2>have had phenomenal seasons. I mean, you can make the

591
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 2>case that Chucky and Rain, that duo all in all,

592
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>as of right now, outside of whatever Duke's working with,

593
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>that's the best backcourt in the AC. Seat's not close

594
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>because those guys have honestly in ACC play, I mean, right,

595
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Smith is not just a guy who gets hot from three.

596
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean that is a big part of what he does.

597
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>But I mean his number is this production. He's been

598
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the better guards in the ACC and obviously

599
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Chucky has been and I don't think that'll change. So

600
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 2>if we had Corn Johnson, like, it wouldn't be an issue.

601
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>It'd be nice to have another guy to put in,

602
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 2>but like he'd be getting legitimate backup minutes, not the

603
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>same minutes that you probably are gonna see from Chucky.

604
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not trying to act like we don't need

605
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>these guys, But I think Louisville was able to round

606
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>into form because they had no other choice.

607
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>With Pope, I think he still wants to.

608
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Play a lot of guys because of the style that

609
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 2>he wants to play, and he wants to keep guys fresh.

610
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>But you're gonna be.

611
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 2>At your best if Jackson Robinson, Amari Williams, I mean

612
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Away and Car Like, if those guys are playing thirty

613
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>five plus minutes, that's a good thing, because you know

614
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>those guys are good. Those guys, clearly, I think, do

615
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot more for you than the others. Like Garrison,

616
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 2>he could still play, you could still throw them out.

617
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>They're the same thing for Chandler and all minors come

618
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>in and hit some shots for him.

619
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 3>But like, it should be spot.

620
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Minutes, and I guess technically that's what he's doing as

621
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>far as minute distribution, But like, I just it just

622
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 2>seemed as if when they went multiple substitutions the other

623
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>night and then you know, they got exposed a little bit,

624
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here thinking, well, you probably should have seen

625
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<v Speaker 2>that coming. And that's where Pope and Kelsey are both

626
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>very much analytically driven, more about the system than about

627
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.799
<v Speaker 2>like personnel. And not to say they don't pay attention

628
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<v Speaker 2>to personnel, but I mean I think you should at times.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, this has not been talked about just yet,

630
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<v Speaker 2>but we'll take our last break here in the four

631
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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour because there's a couple of things I want

632
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<v Speaker 2>to hit on before we finish up the four o'clock hour.

633
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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget that we're taking you up till six o'clock.

634
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<v Speaker 2>But Chuckie Hepburn not listed as one of the top

635
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<v Speaker 2>ten candidates on the Bob Coosey Award, which is given

636
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<v Speaker 2>annually to the nation's best point guard.

637
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's kind of insane.

638
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's disrespectful. I mean it's disrespectful. And I mean

639
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 2>that like not saying that, like Chuckie needs to feel

640
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>emotional about it. But the guys that are ahead of

641
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 2>him on here, like they're playing for teams that some of.

642
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Them aren't as good as Louisville.

643
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, Chucky's been phenomenal this year, So I

644
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 2>think I don't know. I'll share my thoughts on the

645
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>other side. I mean, I don't have a whole lot

646
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>more to add other than that's ridiculous, But.

647
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 3>We'll get to that.

648
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>And as well the Kentucky players that I mean really,

649
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you all, really, as Kentucky fans, care

650
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:15.039
<v Speaker 2>what Ashton Hagen says?

651
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean not to say that you like hate? Yeah,

652
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Like to me, those are guys that you got.

653
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, I'm wrong. I'm not a big big

654
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big Blue Nation guys. Like, maybe you

655
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>will loose sleep at night knowing those guys were pulling

656
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 2>for col But like Reed Shepherd, that was wild. To me,

657
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that was insane. And we'll talk about it next right

658
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

659
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

660
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

661
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<v Speaker 2>You want to hear a hot take, of course, I

662
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>mean I've got a really hot take here that is.

663
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Something that I actually believe is true. But this is

664
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 3>what do I do.

665
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna set it up like I'm one of those

666
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>loud mouse on the round table shows where you're just

667
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>supposed to embrace, debate and yell at each other.

668
00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you ready for it? Yeah?

669
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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey is holding Chucky Hepburn back. Pat Kelsey is

670
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 2>limiting Chucky Chucky Hepburn and what his credentials.

671
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Can be, and he hasn't fully unleashed him yet. Now

672
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 3>what you're saying, well, that's the way people might hear it.

673
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>But what I was actually going to say is that

674
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey has, understandably so and for good reason, been

675
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>such a big story in college basketball and how Louisville

676
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>has turned things around that people don't even realize how

677
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>good Chucky is.

678
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

679
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 2>So again, it's nobody's fault. Yeah, but it's it's I mean,

680
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>it's it's nobody's fault. I'm I'm just stating that that

681
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>has to be the only explanation is that they're just

682
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>assuming that that Pat Kelsey is and look, Pat Kelsey

683
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>is the is the reason is the difference in Louisville previously,

684
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 2>in the last few years and now. But maybe they're

685
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>just so much focused on that that they don't really

686
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>consider to look at Chucky Hepburn and what he's doing statistically,

687
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 2>because for him to not be one of the finalists

688
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 2>on the Wooden Award or not the Wooden Ward, I'm

689
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 2>sorry the Bob Cuzy Award, which goes to the ten

690
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to the ten best point guards in the country, meaning

691
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the final ten. Obviously the oward goes to the winner.

692
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>But you've got Mark Sears at Alabama, Walter Clayton junior

693
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 2>at Florida, Ryan Nemhart at Gonzaga, Keshawn Gilbert Iowa State,

694
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Cam Jones at Marquette, As Baldwin junior at Penn State,

695
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Braden Smith that Purdue, Dylan Harper at Rutgers, Zakai Ziggler

696
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>at Tennessee, and then Javon Small from West Virginia. So

697
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't sit here and tell you that

698
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Chucky's numbers are substantially better than a handful of these guys,

699
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>but they are better to some extent. I mean, Chucky's

700
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>averaging fifteen points, six point four assists and three point

701
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 2>five rebounds, and his steals. I mean, I'm gonna have

702
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 2>to look it up now, because I mean, I don't know.

703
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like the last time I looked

704
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>up Chucky, the last time I looked up chucky Steel stats,

705
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>it actually wasn't as impressive as I thought, because clearly

706
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 2>you can tell his impact defensively when he's just a

707
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>past out there necessarily have to collect a steal for

708
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you to realize this guy's a real problem for opposing

709
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>teams when it comes to his ability to defend you.

710
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 3>But sure enough, he.

711
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Actually leads the ACC and steals by more than a steal.

712
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 2>He's averaging. Okay, let me yeah, no, I'm sorry, never

713
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 2>let me back ups. He's he is leading. I was

714
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 2>looking at the wrong side of it, but he is

715
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 2>leading the ACC in steals total and in steals per

716
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 2>game at two point four. So again, like, I can't

717
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 2>sit here and say that all these guys are a lowsy,

718
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 2>but I think what's happened is that again there's just

719
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>not as much attention on Louisville for any specific player

720
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 2>and everybody else other than I guess, I don't know.

721
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, West Virginia is having a West Virginia lost

722
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>to Louisville. Chucky got the best of Javon Small in

723
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that game. And I know that's not how this works

724
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 2>as far as you know the the Bob Coosey Award,

725
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's nice to be sensitive for a

726
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>basketball player for you feeling, and really, I mean, I

727
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>think it's not to say that that many of these

728
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>guys are not deserving, but like, how's he not deserved?

729
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Again?

730
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You can only put ten but I think you know

731
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>when you look at Keishawn Gilbert, I mean, his numbers

732
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 2>not as good as Chucky's, but you know what he

733
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>happens to play for Iowa State, who's the top ten team.

734
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Ace Baldwin. He's got good numbers, fourteen point seven point

735
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>eight assists, but like his team's lousy. They're not even

736
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna sniff the tournament in the Big ten. I mean

737
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Dylan Harper, I know he's a really good freshman, but

738
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 2>like Rutger sucks, Rutgers is going to be a really

739
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 2>good case study as far as you know. You can

740
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>have the two best players in the country outside of

741
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag, but that doesn't guarantee you anything because yeah,

742
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 2>they're talented, Yeah they're going to be taken early in

743
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the draft, but like you didn't win with them, and

744
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you only are going to have them one year. Braden Smith,

745
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>they got no issues with him there as a kay Ziggler,

746
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I've got no issues there, no issue with Cam Jones.

747
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>But Ryan Nemhard, I mean, good player.

748
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>But like it's wild to think about this but he's

749
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 2>getting the Gonzaga bump, which is crazy that Gonzaga is

750
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>getting a brand bump over Louisville in the grand scheme

751
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>of things. But clearly Gonzaga has been a good program

752
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 2>for a while now, but even they're taking a step back.

753
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Like Ryan Emhard right now, he's averaging eleven points in

754
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>tennis is now tennis is per game. Hard to imagine

755
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>somebody averaging tennisis per game would not be on this list.

756
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 2>So again it's not like I can just tear all

757
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of them down, but when the stats are close, I

758
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like Chucky would have got the edge over some

759
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>of these guys because again, some of their teams aren't

760
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>very good. But you know, it is nice though that

761
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't seem to just be Louisville fans all over this,

762
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of acknowledging that there's clearly somebody that

763
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>is missing, because others that cover the sport are you know,

764
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>noticing it as well. But again, it's only a couple

765
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 2>that I would say I have an issue with them

766
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>being on there. I mean, Mark Sears, I could be

767
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>totally wrong here, but like I think, until just recently

768
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>he was in the headline not headlines, but I mean

769
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>he was he was kind of regressing, But yeah, I

770
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>am wrong. He's actually he's still having a good season.

771
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 2>Alabama's really good. So here I'm just trying to tear

772
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 2>down good players because I'm bothered that Chucky's not getting

773
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the respect that he deserves. But what are you gonna do?

774
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>All Right, the everything that came with Saturday, as far

775
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>as the lead up to Cali Perry returning to Lexington

776
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and all that, and we'll dive back in the five

777
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour as far as just kind of what that was.

778
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>But I really never once gave you. I'm not a

779
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fan, so it's not something I would ever think about.

780
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>But I don't remember I don't remember Kentucky fans as

781
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>they got set for the game, at least, you know,

782
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the friend the ones that I'm friends with, the ones

783
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I know, I don't think they really

784
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>were thinking about.

785
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

786
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I wonder who our former players are going to cheer

787
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 2>for or man, I wonder how our former players feel

788
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>watching their coach go up against you know, big Blue

789
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Nation where they played. And I think for the most part,

790
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>it is understandable for players to still love Cal. I

791
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>mean he changed their lives. Not to say, you know, they

792
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been in the NBA or something without him,

793
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>but I mean he was around him. And look, maybe

794
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to give him credit for them being

795
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>NBA players, and if so, that's fine. There's plenty of

796
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>guys that would have been in the NBIA regardless, but

797
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 2>they still have a strong relationship with him, and and

798
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>that's been evident really from day one, since he got

799
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>to Lexington. These guys aren't just elite players that are

800
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>committing to come to Kentucky. They are very I mean,

801
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>they're coming there for him. And you don't really think

802
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 2>about that a whole lot when things are going great

803
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't matter. But I guess more than anything,

804
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky fans on Saturday, it was a reminder that

805
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>it was really transactional. Like if Cali Perry wasn't the coach,

806
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you may these guys may have never considered Kentucky. And

807
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that's okay, That's really how it is everywhere. I mean,

808
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.119
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna act like players who pick where they

809
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.320
<v Speaker 2>go to school, especially now in this new world, like

810
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not based off of a transaction it's money, and

811
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.719
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, the coach matters too, like they're gonna

812
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 2>clearly know which programs have had success, which ones are

813
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>considered blue bloods. But I think Kentucky, with you know,

814
00:37:57.920 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>it being such a special place, clearly they've got one

815
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 2>the biggest s fan bases on the planet and that

816
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>is a selling point, so it matters. But again, Cal

817
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 2>being there was a big reason why they came. Not

818
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to say that if somebody else instead of Cal was coaching,

819
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>like for example, Mark Pope's already got some big time

820
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>recruits coming his way that you know are there and

821
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Cal Perry's not, so it could still happen. But it

822
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>was I guess, kind of a reminder that maybe you

823
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to see, given the day where Cal comes

824
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 2>back and beat you, and you've got former players that

825
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>were supporting him, not necessarily not supporting you, but some

826
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Ashton Hagens and the who else was it?

827
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>They beyond Men's I believe was one of them.

828
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Hi, yeah, Tyti Washington.

829
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean those guys, I mean, they might have been

830
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a little their comments might have made it seem like

831
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<v Speaker 2>they were kind of, you know, clearly wanting Kyle to

832
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<v Speaker 2>win and.

833
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Didn't care about Kentucky.

834
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But either way, like even if like Greed Shepherd wearing

835
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the Arkansas shirt in the Kentucky shorts is something I

836
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>still can't believe happened, and I don't I'm not saying

837
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>he did something like wrong because again, he committed to

838
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 2>play for Kentucky at cal and yeah, he's from Kentucky.

839
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>His dad won a championship at Kentucky. His dad is close,

840
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 2>was really close with Mark Pope, who's the coach. Now

841
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 2>he's a Kentucky boy. Like all those things are true,

842
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<v Speaker 2>But in his last I don't know, five years of

843
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>his life, he's not really been a fan of anybody.

844
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>He's been you know, clearly his rooting interests and his

845
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>roots are Kentucky. But he's not in the mindset of

846
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 2>like fan because to meet him, it's it's like it's

847
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 2>it's just different any college player, Like, yeah, you may

848
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>grow up rooting on a certain team, but that changes.

849
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<v Speaker 2>Like if Reed Sheppard only thought about who he was

850
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 2>a fan of, like then he would have never considered

851
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>any other school. And look, he might not have, but

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00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>I just think he I don't know, I'm trying I'm

853
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 2>trying to not make it sound as if like I

854
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>think what he did was, you know, the worst thing ever.

855
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>But I just don't think he sees the Kentucky fan

856
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 2>base like the Kentucky fan base thinks he does. And

857
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<v Speaker 2>it's not because he doesn't appreciate it and he doesn't

858
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<v Speaker 2>understand it. To anybody would understand it would be him.

859
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<v Speaker 2>But he also chose to play for Caliparia Kentucky, and

860
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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, Reid was kind of the guy that

861
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<v Speaker 2>Cal has had many years, meaning like the dog, the

862
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.119
<v Speaker 2>guy who just kind of became the man for that team.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Reid benefited playing from Cal not because

864
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 2>of like development as far as what he could do

865
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<v Speaker 2>on the court, but I kind of think Reid, you know,

866
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<v Speaker 2>he was an alpha out there at times. I mean,

867
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<v Speaker 2>he didn't do it against Oakland and people were reminding

868
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<v Speaker 2>him of that on Saturday night, But I mean like

869
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>he had a special connection to Cal and that alone

870
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>makes it to where it would make sense that he

871
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<v Speaker 2>would not be going into that game thinking, you know,

872
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.159
<v Speaker 2>the hell with Arkansas, go big Blue, but to wear

873
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the Arkansas shirt. Like the biggest surprise for me is

874
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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't have the ability to read the room,

875
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<v Speaker 2>or that he didn't care because he's a smart guy

876
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 2>for him to not I think he later came out

877
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>and said he thought it would be funny, like it

878
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 2>was a joke. I mean, I don't know anybody on

879
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>any side of the rivalry, or really anybody that knows

880
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 2>this stuff and is into it like we are. I

881
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know of anybody that would have said, hey, reed,

882
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.519
<v Speaker 2>that would be a good idea, you should do it.

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<v Speaker 2>People will get a kick out of it, like and

884
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.800
<v Speaker 2>it'll blow over. Trust me, it'll be fine. I don't

885
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>think it's something they'll forgive him. They've probably already have

886
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>forgiven him, And I don't think he like betrayed them

887
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 2>by the way, like at the end of the day,

888
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 2>he could know that it makes you feel that way,

889
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>but also as a grown man go to bed at

890
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 2>night knowing that he did nothing wrong. He's supporting both

891
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>because he's a Kentucky guy played there, but also he

892
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:37.639
<v Speaker 2>loves cal Perry and you know that's not a crazy

893
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>thing to wrap your head around. But you know what,

894
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 2>this stuff makes us crazy and people lose sight of

895
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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's reality and what's not. All right, we

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<v Speaker 2>got another hour left, so stick around right here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety