WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.440 And we're back plays with my guest right here from 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:08.919 New York, The bad Lands August wrestles for lp W. 3 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:13.439 Right, what else you wrestled for? That's that's it for now. 4 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.480 It's LBW legacy progress. 5 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.440 You got you listen? How are you feeling good? 6 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.480 That's I'm feeling pretty good. Thank you for having me again. 7 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:23.679 Of course it's a new year. The bad Lands is 8 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:28.000 still right and high his next show on January eighteenth, 9 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:28.559 lp W. 10 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:33.320 It's gonna be an exciting time. But of course we 11 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.759 have there are more shows out there. 12 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:37.399 And m. 13 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:42.399 And and if if luck, if we strike gold, we'll 14 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:43.039 strike luck. 15 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:45.840 And we'll see and we'll see if if the bad 16 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:51.399 Lands makes his h in his debut on other shows, we'll. 17 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.560 Find out cool cool cool cool cool. 18 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:58.039 So like uh so, I'll ask you, like, like how 19 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.759 your thoughts might not roll like the their debut on 20 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:03.640 Netflix about that real quick. 21 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.280 Well in the moment, so as I was watching it, 22 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.079 it was I I I enjoyed. 23 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:11.319 I enjoyed a bit of it. 24 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.519 It was I liked the uh, I liked the opening 25 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:26.760 with Roman and uh uh so uh it really felt 26 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.000 like it felt much more like a main event to me. 27 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:36.359 The the outside interference was it was fun and energetic, 28 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:41.599 the suspense was real, and it also feels like they're 29 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:44.840 putting away this storyline for the year and that they're 30 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.560 gonna move on to other things with with each faction. 31 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.640 So we'll find out we'll find it out more about 32 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:58.799 that in the future. And uh, although honestly the worst 33 00:01:58.799 --> 00:01:59.920 of the worst. 34 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:05.280 Of it was it uh when Hulk Cogan and Jimmy 35 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:06.239 Hart came out, it. 36 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:10.479 Was almost to me, it was almost like John Cena returning. 37 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.520 In the Royal Rumble of two thousand and eight. It 38 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:13.680 was a huge pop. 39 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:18.960 Everyone was uh so surprised that that he made that return. 40 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.080 And then it takes about a minute for everyone to go, 41 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:26.840 wait a second, you don't like this guy, and the 42 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:28.800 crowd instantly turned on Hogan. 43 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:30.000 Did you get that? 44 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:33.000 That's what I felt? 45 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:35.800 Well, I think, well, I think that they were cheering 46 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.319 Jimmy Hart, right, and. 47 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:39.879 Then I mean, I'm sure they would. 48 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:44.199 And then Hogan came out, Hogan, fuck Hogan, gonna boo him, 49 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.599 And so I'm interested, no, because you know, I've had 50 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:52.800 no perspective from you know, like African Americans on this, 51 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.199 like on this on the show today. I had myself, 52 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:02.080 Brandon Cavanaugh, Russ just now from his prior to you 53 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.280 coming on and Chris Fleming right, and we're all you know, 54 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:10.680 we're all black, right, and so even even Russ right, 55 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.039 he said so himself. I'm just now I'm gonna read 56 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:18.840 right here, he said, good show love Hoking, Bood hated 57 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:22.800 the Rocks love best. But before I before I move on, right, 58 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.680 So why so I do em phrase this now? I'm 59 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.280 just I'm just curious because I like, I'm just curious. 60 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:33.400 I'm not pushing an envelope. So what's your reaction to 61 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.400 Hogan and Bood? Like, what's your takeaway from hoging it? 62 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:37.759 Bood? 63 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.240 Honestly, I think it has to do with last year, 64 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:43.680 because you know, Hogan makes up and made a bunch. 65 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:49.560 Of public political appearances. And I feel like if you 66 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:54.159 if you're a pop culture figure and you start getting 67 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.400 into politics, you're gonna get into some hot water. 68 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.000 But then again that politics and pop culture have been 69 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:06.199 and in twining. It's in twining between the two of 70 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:09.759 the in between each other for like, I don't know, 71 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.680 over ten years now, but it's still it's it's still 72 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.480 a a controversial things. 73 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:23.000 Politics, Okay, Yeah, I. 74 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:25.120 Would say, I would say so, and a couple a 75 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:26.199 couple with the fact. 76 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:32.160 That Hogan has done a lot of uh, has said 77 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.839 a lot of well you know. 78 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:42.680 And uh, but when when his music hits, everyone has 79 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.040 that sense of nostalgia and they just got to get 80 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:46.759 up and cheer. 81 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:51.360 But then reality sets in for for about. 82 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:56.240 A minute for everyone to switch emotions. 83 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.519 I mean, I'll say this real quick, not not not 84 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.519 too impossible to deep, but you know, on a take, 85 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.439 it's also like, you know, I'm aga supporter, you didn't get. 86 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:13.560 Well, I'm it's true, but but Undertaker is different. You know, 87 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.680 it's kind of strange you're saying this because we're it's 88 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:22.000 cash stranger talking about this because last night, by coincidence, uh, 89 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.120 one of my peers out of nowhere was talking to 90 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:25.959 me about this. 91 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.000 About about politics. 92 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:33.879 And it just makes me think, uh, it just makes 93 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.800 me realize that out of nowhere you can have you 94 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.439 can you can have these in these conversations. Uh when 95 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:45.879 when you're still in wrestling mode. But about here we 96 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.079 are and it's you know, it's unavoidable. 97 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.199 Okay, okay, yeah, but so yeah, so you talked about 98 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.560 the open air match, about holding coming out play with 99 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.759 the other stuff, se puckets of rollins. 100 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.879 Uh, and so. 101 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.920 I didn't really want them to be the main event. 102 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:11.759 But just like Undertaker, and just like Roman and Solo, 103 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:16.639 it's it's almost like they're putting that storyline to to 104 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:21.759 bed and uh thinking of something else thoughts, as in 105 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:22.879 moving on to something else. 106 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:24.680 So you thought that Roman is to be made event. 107 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.839 I feel I feel like it should have. 108 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.360 Yeah, I mean my argument against that would be fucking 109 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:32.279 superate raw guys. 110 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.759 So they should be made raw. 111 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:40.759 That's true, But I don't know why why would there 112 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.560 if it's if it's main event for raw and they 113 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:49.759 are raw guys, why have a bunch of SmackDown superstars? 114 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:53.639 Uh? If if they can't main events raw? 115 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.279 Well, well, I was wanting to say I was saying 116 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:02.040 this earlier about the broadcast because this wasn't like like 117 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:03.879 this was like you know, like a tip ups. It 118 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.199 was like they're jumped from cable to Netflix. So this 119 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.480 is this is more of a of a special. It's 120 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.800 probably like of like a celebration episode that's supposed like 121 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:15.879 a typ of cops of things. So of course we 122 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:17.839 bring We're gonna bring you up with a smack dot 123 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.480 com to yeah you have like back you Bailey and 124 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.120 the SmackDown guys and like chilling the audience and chilling 125 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:24.439 in the luxury boxes. 126 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:26.040 Because it's a party. 127 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:27.839 Man, It's not like it's like it's like it's like 128 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:29.680 when you're like a little It's like you're when you're 129 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.480 in school, right, like like in kindergarten. 130 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.480 It was. It was very much a party when you're. 131 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:36.920 In kindergarten, right, and all of a sudden, you know, 132 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:39.959 it's some kids birthday part for the classes Catholic and 133 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.920 subating birthday party that that happen in the school day 134 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.160 in saying, it's kind of like that. 135 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.040 That's why. That's why I thought it was how would 136 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:48.720 you feel about how did you feel. 137 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:55.120 About the the lack of wrestling by comparison, it's like 138 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.439 five matches, everything was just like no talking and showing 139 00:07:58.519 --> 00:07:59.319 the audience whatever. 140 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:02.879 The lack of wrestling compared to what. 141 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.759 The lack of respect by comparison, right, because five matches 142 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:12.399 very very like interspersed, so so my comparison like the 143 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.439 typical raw right, it was very like like it felt 144 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.639 like it was like more more like more substance, more 145 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.839 what's the word I felt like it was more it 146 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:26.439 was more shine than substance. 147 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:33.960 People are saying, Uh, I mean I didn't really exactly 148 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:34.480 notice it. 149 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:37.799 What I was. What I was noticing was what felt. 150 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.320 Uh worked for me and what didn't work for me, 151 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:50.399 Like for instance, John Cena, I I expected him to 152 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:55.159 to work for me, and he did him and entering 153 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:59.399 himself into the Royal Rumble and the way he did it, 154 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:03.399 it's it felt like John Cena and it was something 155 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.279 I expected from Sina. Okay, and it's gotten me hyped forwards. 156 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:08.919 Okay, what what didn't work for you? 157 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:14.840 Uh? Well, I was previously mentioned Paul Cogan. It's what 158 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:20.120 else ever since? Uh, I don't know, ever since. 159 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:23.000 Twenty nineteen, it feels like he just comes down to 160 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:27.080 the to the arena, never walks into the stage in 161 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:27.679 the ring. 162 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.000 And just says a few things and then it is 163 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:31.480 out of there. 164 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:33.679 Well, he came here his false beer, you know, he 165 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.720 came left with the fulls beer. So yeah, but yeah. 166 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:38.200 That's true. 167 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:38.639 It's true. 168 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:45.240 Well wealth didn't work for you, as you say. 169 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:56.919 Uh well, the matched placements. Yeah, the the the beginning 170 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.759 and the main events I feel should have been switched. 171 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.799 And what else was there there was James So and 172 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.840 there was there was and there was. 173 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:14.960 Little Morgan versus Dominic, I mean, no real ripley new champions. 174 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.519 It it felt I mean, I am glad that. 175 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.679 I am glad that. Do you think that they're putting 176 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:24.720 that storyline to bed? 177 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:27.960 Yeah? And I hope not. 178 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:30.279 I hope they are mean too. 179 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:35.600 Yeah it's been dragging, yes, and yeah this was a 180 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.039 very yeah yeah I know that, right or the big 181 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.320 bas won the matches a good again, like a good thing, 182 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:44.000 especially especially trying to put on new viewers. This this 183 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:48.799 was a this was a showcase to like millions and 184 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.600 of new viewers, you know. So I think in every 185 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:57.720 way this was like a massive success. But I'm just like, 186 00:10:58.039 --> 00:10:59.679 I'm like curious because I'm seeing a lot of the 187 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:00.639 negat feedback. 188 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:00.919 You know. 189 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:04.879 Yeah, there's a lot of people on social media who 190 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.360 who said the show. 191 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:08.399 Was a flop. Yeah. 192 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:10.320 And it's one thing if you're like, you know, like 193 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:14.159 at a W for Life on Twitter or like I 194 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:18.559 love a W one oh two five nine whatever on Twitter, 195 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.440 or right saying the stuff you though because you know 196 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:25.000 of tribalism fandom. But it's another thing where like you know, 197 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:29.600 like you're somebody like you know, Brandon or Kavanaugh or 198 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:36.759 Russ or whoever, right with with with an unbiased opinion, right. 199 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.759 And I was surprised that of you know, of the 200 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:46.360 candid that reception, you know, like you know, well Brandon 201 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.759 was saying. Brandon was saying, you know, I thought that 202 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.399 they should have no showcased the raw people more this 203 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.799 that third and you know it was pretty much them, 204 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.120 you know, pans us on the back whatever. Right, And 205 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.320 again this is like this is like no, like like 206 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:06.320 honest sincere candidate like beedback. No, no, not just some 207 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.480 people like the other product whatever, right, And I was 208 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:16.120 just I was un expected. My computer is backing up 209 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.759 on make sure it's the lot still recording were good 210 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.240 and I could yeah, but yeah, that's just so I'm 211 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:24.120 just curious. So that's why that's the reason why I 212 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.320 got you buy it here today, just to get their 213 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:26.960 thoughts on the show. 214 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:27.720 I thought it was good. 215 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:32.240 I was surprised to see that not by thoughts so well, 216 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.240 but overall like thumbs up and thumbs down. 217 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.919 Um A considered, I. 218 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:39.840 Guess I'll give it. 219 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:44.200 Yeah, you know, yeah, you know, and uh yeah, and 220 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:46.919 they built up stuff for um next week, right, you know, uh, 221 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.399 you know, uh no, they built up you know, uh, 222 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.519 they built up the next week, they built up the 223 00:12:55.679 --> 00:13:01.480 Women's Championship Finals, they built up other stuff. 224 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:08.919 They gotta say if if I can't say, it's a 225 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.600 surprise that we're still in the copy and paste era 226 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:12.639 of title belts. 227 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.000 M hm. You got you got the one big logo 228 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.960 for for w W E and w W Women's, uh, 229 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.279 the the World. 230 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.200 Heavyweight, the Intercontinental, the United States, the North American. 231 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:33.080 It's still very much a copy and paste era for. 232 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.919 For w W mm hmm. I mean, well, why do 233 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:39.080 the word copy and paste? 234 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:44.759 You can't, you can't you can like you can't make 235 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:49.480 an original design for the or for the for the 236 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:50.399 women's division. 237 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.799 Well you mean design or the titled self, the. 238 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:56.279 Title belt itself. 239 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:01.200 So so the design like the design okay, So, but 240 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:06.039 being called the United States Championship or air College that's fine, right, Okay? 241 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.000 I mean I don't only see a problem with that 242 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:14.799 to me because I studied business in school. That's like, 243 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:15.519 that's like that's like. 244 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.159 Branding and branding identity, you know, saying so I I 245 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.960 didn't I only see a problem with that. That's like 246 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.080 branding and branding identity. So again, I don't really see 247 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.159 a problem with that. Yeah, and I know this is 248 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.320 the w W Women's United States Championship. It's so and 249 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.480 so forth, I would my one thing. And I know 250 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.399 there's probably no like like factors in making factors and 251 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.080 successes involved, but I'm like, they should stop calling the 252 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.240 world and stop calling the WB called the raw. 253 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:47.559 World Championship. 254 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.600 Yeah, and I know I realized it's probably mitigating substances 255 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.759 that that's not allowing that, right, But that's the best 256 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.440 thing you can do, makes the most sense, because that 257 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.679 always bothered me, Like, this is the w W World Championship, Well, 258 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.120 this is the World Championship, like that always they bugged 259 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:03.639 this shet of me. 260 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.120 Oh my god, going, I'm confusing me, so like which 261 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.080 one is more important? Orders the same? 262 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.240 But so I'm a champion of w W, I'm a 263 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:18.279 champion of the world. So that comment confused me. And yeah, 264 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:21.840 I don't like so I again I'm repeating myself. I 265 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:25.120 know there's probably a circumstances that's for bringing that, but 266 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:26.840 the best thing you can do is to say, all right, 267 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:27.519 this is the raw. 268 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:32.440 This is the the SmackDown World Championship. This is the 269 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.440 Raw World Championship. You know what I'm saying. You know 270 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:36.919 they have what no. 271 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.639 No, I would disagree it. 272 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:48.200 That reminds me of the Ron SmackDown Women's Championships, the 273 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:59.279 main Events, the main Events, Big Card World Championships. 274 00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:01.159 I didn't. 275 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:08.279 I didn't like the Raw and SmackDown branded championships even 276 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.919 even at the time, and I still don't now. It's 277 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:17.480 it's it doesn't feel legitimate. It doesn't sound legitimate to me. 278 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:18.159 Why not. 279 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:22.679 Like it's. 280 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:28.559 It just sounded it sounds more brandish to me, brandished 281 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:30.559 for a show, a show. 282 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:36.320 Brand for a title you've got and then but if 283 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:41.440 you have the w W E and the World Heavyweights. 284 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:46.360 It feels like it's two distinct titles with two distinct histories. 285 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.600 That's how I felt when I first discovered the w 286 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:54.039 W A Championship and the World Heavyweight Championship. That's and 287 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.399 that's how I felt when I first discovered it, and 288 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:57.080 that's how. 289 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.759 I feel still feel about it. 290 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.799 Real quick, Right, it's not supposed to be called w 291 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.799 W champions right, that's just the version. It's just supposed 292 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.720 to be called the w W World Championship, right, So 293 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.880 you have to the WOR World Championship, the world ships. 294 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:11.359 Which one is is the real one? 295 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:13.920 This is what I did. 296 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.480 I didn't know that it was supposed to be called 297 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.799 the WWE World Championship. 298 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:20.279 I thought I thought it was just meant to be 299 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.960 called the champion. 300 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.039 Listen when when they announcer announcing the Tomas right, this 301 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.720 mess with one ball is for the w W World 302 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:30.319 the Heavyweight Championship. 303 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:31.240 That's what it is. 304 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:38.319 That's maybe it's just headcannon for me and you. And 305 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.119 it's what w W has to say about their belts. 306 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:42.759 I feel like. 307 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:47.440 I know what, Yeah, but I don't know because again 308 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.079 they treat like this technique and promotions raw as a 309 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:55.160 promotion by itself, smacked up promotion by itself, and XT 310 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.359 promotions by itself. Right, n XT has its has the 311 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.359 NXT Championship, so smacked up, would have to spect that championship. 312 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:03.359 RUS should have the row Chimps. That's why that's why 313 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.559 I see it, you know, and and and and that 314 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:08.640 was fun. I was saying, probably the factors involved in that. 315 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.680 But they're no longer filled with fox, you know what 316 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:13.640 I'm saying. Yeah, they still have a deal. They still 317 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:20.960 know filled with nothing NBC USA, right, But I. 318 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.279 Feel like I feel like they said they should change it. 319 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:25.720 They should like, yo, it is the WRAW Championship because 320 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.160 it's each brand is it's it's all separate promotion, right, 321 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:30.880 and they should just do that. 322 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:36.400 But it's whatever, Okay, cool cool? Cool? Uh yeah real quick? 323 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.519 You were you were telling me that prior to watching 324 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:42.240 We're All on Monday, right, you and your peers talking 325 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.680 about Russell Kingdom and how didn't feel like Russell Kingdom 326 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:46.039 this year. 327 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:49.799 Well, I'm not much of it. 328 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.480 I don't have much knowledge of New Japan for Wrestling 329 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:58.559 or Japanese wrestling, but but I do have some knowledge 330 00:18:58.599 --> 00:18:58.920 of it and. 331 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.039 Its history of tell me about also Kingdom. 332 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.079 I did not see a look of it because I've 333 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:04.920 just been too carprom all this personal stuff. 334 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:09.160 Well, from what I've heard, it's, oh you see it. 335 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.160 I thought I told you before, but but I did not. 336 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.559 But from what I heard, it did not feel like 337 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:22.839 my peers felt like it didn't feel like Wrestle Kingdom 338 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:28.720 and uh, and how New Japan Pro Wrestling is starting 339 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:37.079 to be trying to americanize itself with with American with 340 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.359 a similar style and similar characters to w w EE 341 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:46.160 like like their own their own kind of Triple H 342 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:51.319 or Vince McMahon, and it's losing its feel. 343 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:54.839 I believe. 344 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.839 I believe I'm hearing what you're saying because my my 345 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:05.720 peers and UH and trainers always tell me how Japan Japan. 346 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:11.920 Wrestling pro wrestling always had its distinct feel and it's 347 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:20.079 a lot more tough and and grinding, and they've always 348 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:25.920 stuck with that. So I'm not exactly sure what's happening 349 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:29.400 in New Japan for wrestling, but if they're choosing to 350 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:35.240 do this, UH, I would not. 351 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:40.319 I would not support that. It's I feel like if 352 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:45.480 it's if if you have a feel and you've and you've. 353 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.240 Stuck with it this whole time and it's been totally successful, 354 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.400 there's no need to to create competition with someone else. 355 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:53.160 We need don't need to. 356 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.720 I feel like I feel like that's cos versions right, 357 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:01.319 that's that's not like no down talk a W. But 358 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.079 I feel like because a W is kind of rating 359 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.039 all of the New Japan talent, like all the top 360 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:11.359 guys like Okada and Jay White, and the list goes 361 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.480 on and on, like E C E and all them people. 362 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:14.759 A right. 363 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.200 I feel like they're kind of like the sapping way 364 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.680 the life force of New Japan. Like who's who is 365 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:21.839 all New Japan right now? 366 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:29.200 I'm saying that taking away so many Yeah, taking away? 367 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:35.400 Yeah, m you know, I haven't like yeah, like I 368 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:37.440 used to like enjoy New Japan, but like I feel 369 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:41.039 like it's like the souls now and like I hope 370 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:42.960 to God because this rumor's going around the toy's gonna 371 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.720 buy New Japan, and I pray that he doesn't. 372 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.240 That's who don't. I'm being a call once. 373 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:52.720 It could be. 374 00:21:54.559 --> 00:22:01.960 Hello, Hello, fudge, who is this? 375 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:06.319 God? 376 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:06.680 Damn? 377 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:06.960 Hold on? 378 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:24.799 Hell h hello yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on alright, 379 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:33.400 Heldo said, I say something talk talk there you go? Yeah, 380 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:35.720 sorry about that. Somebody called, they didn't answer. I lost 381 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:36.720 and lost their connections with you. 382 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:37.880 So but we're back. 383 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.039 It's fine, not a big deal. 384 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:41.240 But what's the camera plane? 385 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:43.240 All? Right? 386 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:43.519 There? 387 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:43.720 You go? 388 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:44.599 Uh? 389 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:48.119 Like I was saying, yeah, I feel like because of no, 390 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.599 they don't been taking away all these all the top names, right, 391 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:54.400 I feel like you kind of lost some deliight, like 392 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:58.079 like lost like some soul, this energy like it's it's 393 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:02.160 it's it's five it's feel like whol Like Whol is 394 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.039 on a not either who's on New. 395 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.640 Japan right now that you know or remember or care about. 396 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:09.599 And it's not not to be mean, it's just like the. 397 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:12.599 I feel like it's just it's just lost a lot 398 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:15.559 of its substance because of all the time going to 399 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:17.319 a w something like that. And I just hope that 400 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.440 I hope the rooms aren't true that Toy is gonna 401 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:24.319