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<v Speaker 1>Not been boring. That's for sure an eventful year, to

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<v Speaker 1>say the least. At least I didn't get shot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the brand side, but we have had people

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<v Speaker 1>shoot up Tells, the stores and burn down till the cars.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't expecting that level of violence, really. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's obviously been attempts to sort of boycott Tells them,

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<v Speaker 1>my other companies and basically put whatever pressure they possibly

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<v Speaker 1>can on me and and Tesla and to some degree

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<v Speaker 1>with my other companies. And I guess that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you go after waste and fraud, because the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are receiving the billions of dollars waste and

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<v Speaker 1>fraud want to keep receiving it. The people doing the

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<v Speaker 1>bad things want to keep getting the money. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily dealing with an unsavory group, that is, since they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing illegal things already and we're stopping them from doing

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<v Speaker 1>legal things, obviously they're they're going to do bad things

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<v Speaker 1>to me and to my companies somewhat inevitable.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, do you regret doing what you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you regret coming out and supporting President No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was essential for the President Trump to

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<v Speaker 1>win to ensure that America remained great and that we

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<v Speaker 1>reached greater heights. Really, some very basic things need to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to have obviously a secure border, We need

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<v Speaker 1>to have safe cities, We need to have sensible spending.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if President Trump had not won, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat campaign to import vast numbers of illegal voters

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<v Speaker 1>would have succeeded, and they would have naturalized vast numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of illegals during the sort of comm regime, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would have turned America into a one party state from

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<v Speaker 1>which we could never escape. Some people out there may

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<v Speaker 1>be somewhat skeptical that may think, well that there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>some Democrat plan to subvert democracy and achieve a permanent

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<v Speaker 1>one party deep blue socialist state. I as show you

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<v Speaker 1>if the more you research it, the more you will

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<v Speaker 1>see it is true. Biden was simply asleep at the switch.

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<v Speaker 1>He was ineffective regarding illegal immigration. No, he was highly

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<v Speaker 1>effective at ushering in millions of illegal immigrants with a

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<v Speaker 1>specific game plan to naturalize them and ensure that there

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<v Speaker 1>were no There would be no swing states in America anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Often the margin of victory there will be twenty or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand votes. So if you bring in two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand illegals which will overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats, then

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<v Speaker 1>that that swing state becomes permanently blue. Then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the House, the Senate, the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>When did Elon Musk finally say, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like something is really grossly wrong with what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I started having concerns about three years ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were sort of I just had like an uneasy

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like something doesn't feel right here. The censorship was

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<v Speaker 1>becoming ridiculous, like I could like I had. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the most interacted with account on Twitter before the acquisition,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was very finally attuned to what the algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>was showing me or not showing me, and who got

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<v Speaker 1>suspended or didn't get suspended. Twitter was being run at

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<v Speaker 1>a very far left basis. When I felt the censorship

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<v Speaker 1>was closing it, I was like, Okay, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. And the thing I could do is acquire

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and make it a bastion of free speech. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're trying to do with with Twitter. Like

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<v Speaker 1>no one on the left has been suspended, but we

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<v Speaker 1>did unsuspend people on the right, and you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let the marketplace of ideas. And then once we unlocked

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter from being censored, then then we start to see

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<v Speaker 1>what was really gone on. And I became increasingly concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait a second, I'm seeing videos of people

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<v Speaker 1>streaming across the border on Twitter now X I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, this is this real? So

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, you know, I'll go to the border myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to Eagle Pass, Texas, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>people streaming across the border. And I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any vetting of these people? Like, no, the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration is letting them all in. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of these people clearly have criminal affiliations, like

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<v Speaker 1>they literally have the criminal affiliation tattooed on their face.

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<v Speaker 1>That the left is kind to the criminals and cruel

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<v Speaker 1>to the victims, which is no form which is not empty.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, if you're high TRUSTe

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<v Speaker 1>and you bring in low trust or untrustworthy individuals, that's

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got a fundamental breakdown in the system. Recipe

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<v Speaker 1>for disaster a rest beefore disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds like for you, you went through these

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<v Speaker 2>moments of actually seeing things firsthand for yourself. So you

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<v Speaker 2>had these moments leading up to really coming out on

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<v Speaker 2>the stage October in Butler, Pennsylvania with President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't have a country like this. I supported Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>gave the maximum donation to Obama, actually had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good relationship. When when Biden was elected out, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>most moderates that I knew, they thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like a milk toast mosion of Obama. And then it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we get the most radical left crazy administration

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<v Speaker 1>ever with and and Biden is actually non confass mantis,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, president outopen. Basically, Biden was president atop who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't controlled that ortoped a teleprompt during the Bided administration

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<v Speaker 1>was the real president. If a reasonable person who's open

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<v Speaker 1>minded was exposed the same information that I was exposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>they would end up at the same place that I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up.

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<v Speaker 2>You grew up in South Africa, you lived during a

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<v Speaker 2>period of apartheid. I'm sure you've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>horrific things. So to be called a Nazi by people,

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<v Speaker 2>to be made out to be this monster, that must

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<v Speaker 2>be really hard for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a relentless propaganda campaign, which obviously your President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has experienced for a very long time twenty years maybe longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And politics is a blood sport, so they're gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>up with whatever attacks they can to destroy the public

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<v Speaker 1>perception of someone. Now, obviously I've not harmed anyone in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. They've also called President Trump a Nazi, but

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<v Speaker 1>he also is not a violent person and in fact

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<v Speaker 1>has done a lot to prevent wars and stop wars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the very opposite of being a Nazi.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually ironic how that works out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but it is disappointing how well propaganda works. If

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<v Speaker 1>you repeat Ali, you know, the sort of he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi light enough times some people actually believe it, especially

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<v Speaker 1>people that still believe the Legacy News. But they really

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<v Speaker 1>are trying every angle to get me. They are doing

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<v Speaker 1>character assassination. That's by a thousand cuts. It shows that

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<v Speaker 1>we if what we were doing at DOGE was not effective,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't care. But it is effective, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying every angle to put pressure on me and

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<v Speaker 1>DOGE to stop fixing the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about your relationship with President Trump. You came to DC,

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<v Speaker 2>people immediately said Elon Musk is in charge of things

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<v Speaker 2>here very clearly. President Trump is.

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<v Speaker 1>I do consider the president of friend. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>considers me a friend, and you know, we get along

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<v Speaker 1>very well. I think probably if you asked us both

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<v Speaker 1>the same set of questions in two different rooms, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time we come up with the same answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we'll just not say that we always agree,

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<v Speaker 1>but we almost always agree. Getting where of waste for

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<v Speaker 1>in the government and ensuring the rule of ploye is followed.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen just crazy things like the twenty million dead

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<v Speaker 1>people and the Social Security database marked is alive, many

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<v Speaker 1>of whom were receiving benefits. One person with three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty years old older than I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a bit of a red flag. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>older than America. And you know, we found we found

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<v Speaker 1>people receiving unemployment insurance with a birth birth date in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. We found at the Small Business Administration that

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving at loans to people as young as nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're stopping things like that. I've actually found there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who are federal government employees. They're

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<v Speaker 1>active employees who nonetheless applied for and have received unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>insurance while they are federal employees. Yes. Wow, and this

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be at least one hundred thousand people. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that you're finding all of this, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>actually also simultaneously running several companies. What else are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing and how are you doing it? And where are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing it? Are you sleeping? Are you traveling all

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<v Speaker 2>the time?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very difficult That's why I made that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I'm wearing many hats joke. The cabinet was

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<v Speaker 1>given the Gulf of America hat, I believe it was,

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<v Speaker 1>so you see all the all the hats there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I happened to have a doge hat like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'll put a hat on a hat and

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<v Speaker 1>proved to people that I am wearing what we really are.

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<v Speaker 1>I am wearing more than one hat. Even my hat

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<v Speaker 1>has a hat. So it requires in ten effort for

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<v Speaker 1>except for about three months, which were kind of out

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<v Speaker 1>the three month point now and then I can taper

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<v Speaker 1>taper my time allocation but still get things done. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I've tooked this over with the president, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is no surprise or.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone knows about multitasking and getting a lot done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's him, absolutely, He's very good at multitasking and getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot done in many different arenas. I also still

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<v Speaker 1>have my little office and my cute little office in

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<v Speaker 1>the West wing by the way. It's like comically small.

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<v Speaker 1>People have taken photos of it and stuff, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be tiny. And even this office I use,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also used for meetings and stuff, so I

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<v Speaker 1>try not to, you know, use of a lot of space.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I usually don't even have an at my companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have an office. I just walk around,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people and have meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's how you know what's going on now.

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<v Speaker 2>Very famously, there was a story about you when you

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<v Speaker 2>first came to DC that you slept on a couch

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<v Speaker 2>in your office. This is where the richest man in

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<v Speaker 2>the world slept. Yeah, wow, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you do that? Well, I didn't really have

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<v Speaker 1>a good place to stay at the time. How long

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<v Speaker 1>did you do that for off and on for a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks? That's incredible. Yeah, I mean it's the worse

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<v Speaker 1>places to sleep