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Speaker 1: The bench with Jacob Hester and C Bob Abert. Pitch.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two of OTB

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one O four five ESPN Baton Rouge. Very excited as

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always to welcome all on our next guest, Connor Ogerre

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Saturday down South joins US now, Connor, hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 4: Sir, doing really well. I do love this time of year,

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even as a football guy, Like there's just nothing to

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me that quite compares to the excitement of the NCAA tournament.

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So I'm I'm in a good place despite the fact

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that there's just basically no spring football anymore.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know, I was.

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Speaker 3: Actually that was going to be my first question because like, overall,

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on Saturday down South right now, normally we'd have like

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a ton of football, and football would kind.

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Speaker 5: Of be even leading the way during March madness.

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Speaker 3: But with the way spring football is kind of approach now,

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and also when you have a league that you cover

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that fourteen of the sixteen teams make the postseason, seven

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of the sixteen left or from the conference, I get

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why it is going to be the lead story, but

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there's not a lot of football that's peaking through because

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like spring practice, it's treated differently like kind of everywhere.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've got Peak Golding out there throwing touchdowns

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at practice now for Ole Miss, their defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's about all we can get. And I'll take

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the random videos like that, and I'll take content like

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Kirby Smart like calling out his team and basically saying

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the freshmen aren't you know, living up to the standard.

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And you know that that gives us something to be

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able to talk about. But yeah, I mean, it'd be

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foolish for me to sit here and break down Auburn's

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inside linebackers when the set is making history, you know,

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on the hardwood. And that's something that I think feels

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like a little bit of a shift in mindset. And

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obviously the great question is what does it look like

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when it's not peak basketball time? If we're talking about

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the basketball versus football debate in the SEC and how

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that going to look moving forward? It's all right, well,

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what are we talking about when it's you know, the

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beginning of June, Like, what are the conversations that are

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that we're focusing on, and the vast majority of the

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time is still going to be about football. It's still

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going to be debating things like quarterback rankings. We're going

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to be talking about coaches on the hot seat, who's

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going to have a breakout year. That's just the way

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that the the ebbs and flows of this calendar works

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in the SEC. Still, but it does feel like such

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a different sort of transition, because man, when I started

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doing this like ten years ago, we had no interest

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whatsoever in talking about the NCAA tournament, talking really in

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depth about SEC basketball and the quality of play has

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certainly changed our approach.

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Speaker 3: It has done that, and we'll get to the football

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portion of it. But you're right you mentioned ten years ago,

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that's really when the change happened. I can remember in

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twenty fourteen, SEC basketball was just it was bad.

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Speaker 5: It was bad. I just retired from the NFL, just

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like you.

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Speaker 3: So I got into this business during that year, and

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Peter Burn, and it's like, man, we got we got

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to figure something out, like this is a bad product.

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he goes to the schools like, hey, y'all got to

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do more. You have to put more resources, you have

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to hire better coaches, you have to make this a priority.

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its level every single year. And now we're to this

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point where seven of your teams are you know, like

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we said in the sweet sixteen there, you know, Commissioner

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propped up, listening to some YouTube, big smile on his face,

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just enjoying all of this because he challenged every school

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you know, he has been preaching for forever. That you know,

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six of the top twelve highest paid coaches in college

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basketball in the SEC coaches are what turned this around.

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When SINC football began its run of dominance with two

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six twenty twelve and consecutive national title winners from the conference,

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four different schools, you might have known a thing or

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two about that, there was this feeling of, oh, well,

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rising tide that lifted all boats, pun intended, because the

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coaching got so much better in the SEC at that time,

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to change the way that college basketball was approached in

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the SEC. And now you're seeing coaches that, yeah, are

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a bit older, and it is weird to be talking

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about coaches on the other side of sixty five at

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Rick Barnes, John cal Perry, a Bruce Pearl who are

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having this unbelievable success and doing so in a place that,

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let's be honest, used to be an afterthought. Like I

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grew up in the Big ten part of the country

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and I'm a Big ten graduate SEC basketball. To me,

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the kid meant nothing, absolutely nothing. I was like, that's

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just what they do and to fill time until football starts.

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so many people are rooting against the SEC outside of

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the SEC footprints and wanting the conference to look fraudulent

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in the NCAA tournament, that just shows you how far

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this conference has come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, they were pretty excited whenever Xavier

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beat Texas and then Gonzaga was putting.

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Speaker 5: It on UGA and you log on and you see all.

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Speaker 3: The narratives already starting, and they might have jumped the

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gun a little bit too early on that one.

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Speaker 4: Connor, Yeah, big time. I mean, look, there were going

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to be thirteen an SEC teams that lost in this tournament.

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were going to be at least thirteen. Maybe it does

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Carl Ravage, I don't know, I don't know. Someone might

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need to tell them that five hundred record in conference play,

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that's going to be the expectation when you're only playing

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conference teams. But yeah, like that's still going to be

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what defines the SEC this year. We can talk all

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we want about, oh man, three teams in the Elite

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eight or whatever, and oh maybe they're going to have

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two in the final four. If an SEC team isn't

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cutting down the nets for the first time since twenty twelve,

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it's a problem and it's going to hurt the brand

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of SEC basketball, and it's not necessarily going to live

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up to this unbelievable regular season and so far the

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first part of the postseason that it's had. And so

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you could say, yeah, that's maybe a bit unfair. You know,

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matchups are going to determine this thing. Who knows that

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duke is, you know, the team that is just you know,

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heads and shoulders above the rest of the competition. Maybe

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a team like Michigan State is going to be the

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last one standing that's outside of the SEC. But you know,

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we're going to move past these things, and we're not

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necessarily going to break down the fact that the non

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SEC teams that are left in the sweet sixteam are

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four and ten against the SEC. Nobody's could care about

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that if the SEC doesn't ultimately win a national.

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Speaker 3: Championship this year, kis never the gout connor rogera Saturday

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down South and I know, look, it's what it is.

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there used to be out there. But as we kind

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of know these rosters now, and we have to figure

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out how these transfers are going to implement themselves into

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whichever team that they decided to go into, and right

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now we don't know that information, and so you know,

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bit blind compared to where we used to be where

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we kind of knew what the roster was. But just

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like a general question on the teams that you expect

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that you know, you kind of see maybe even taking

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a step back, like where are you at with some

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna be interested see how many of these

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teams in the SEC go after a big time receiver

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in the post spring transfer port window. I think that's

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gonna be the next big storyline to kind of follow

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because the quarterback market. Look, if you're a quarterback, you're

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going into the end of the pooral post regular season.

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suggests as such. Even you know, I don't have to

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remind l as you fans, even Joe Burrow post spring transfer,

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it is still very limited what he was able to

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the really fascinating discussion is how many of these teams

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go after that top flight receiver. I think there's gonna

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be big time tampering. I think there are gonna be

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teams like Florida, like Texas, A and m maybe even

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a team like Alabama that's going into the portal, going Leuddy,

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we need help, and we need it in a hurry.

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Speaker 4: Not everybody was fortunate enough to do what Ellis you

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likes of Nick Anderson and barry On Brown and having

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the ability to go out and get those guys early.

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to be a really fascinating storyline to watch because I

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Speaker 5: Last one before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: Connor, he's sitting there talking about maybe some needs of

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some different teams, teams that lost a lot. I was

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Jackson Dhart maybe being a first round pick and he

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like he was there for so long and he was

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so steady, got better every single year. Him and Lane

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Kiffin had a great relationship. Is that a team that

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Speaker 4: I'll be stunned a full Miss doesn't take a step back.

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I really will be. And I like Austin Simmons a lot.

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to regress? With all due respect to Pete Golding, sneaky

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athletic Pete Golding. As we found out from the spring practice,

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look at the dudes that they lost up front, man

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like Jared Ivy, Jjpgeez Walter, Nolan prince Lyuman Miellen, Like

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spot this year with avoiding that defensive aggression because at

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Old Miss, the defensive floor can be low when Lane

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the past and they were unbelievably good last year and

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they're losing, Like I mean, we're going to look up

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and be like, oh my gosh, look at South Carolina

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and Old Miss. How many defensive players they're having come

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off the board early in the NFL draft. So I

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do think that they're a team that, even if Boston

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spot where you're winning eight nine games because your defense

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Speaker 5: Damn you, Matt House. I know well.

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Speaker 3: On that note, Connor, that one too soon. It will

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always be too soon. Hey, I appreciate your time, sir.

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Always look forward to our conversations. And you know how

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this works. We'll do it again soon.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 3: All right, Connor Gara Saturday down South, good enough to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to off the bench where the takes are

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hot and the sports talk is questionable.

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Speaker 5: Hi, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: He in OTV one O four five ESPN Ben Rouge.

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Very excited for our next guest. It is our guy,

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Blake Baker, the LSU defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Coach. We appreciate the time. Thanks hopping on with us

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this morning.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you having me, Jacob. How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: We're doing well. Hey, how's that wing doing. I felt

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so bad last time I saw you. I forgot about

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it and I did the classic meathead thing. I hit

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you right on the back, probably where it hurt the worst.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, you're not the only one. That's my own

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fault for I need to put like a big stop

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sign on my shoulder. But it's doing good, man. I

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got probably have more range of motion than I had

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at any point last season, So it's getting there.

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Speaker 3: Oh Man, those shoulders playing linebacker and fullback. I don't

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know that they ever fully get rehealed. But glad you

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finally got that fixed. And you know, still trying to

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continue fixing the LSU defense. Big steps last year, coach,

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But how much how much different is it? I guess

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this year in this spring now that I mean, look,

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you know, everybody everybody knows you, they know the expectation.

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You got a lot of the same staff members. Does

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your number two feel different than your number one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know, like you talked about a

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lot of consistency on the staff, and then you know,

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even though we brought in a few guys in the portal,

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you know, majority of the of the defense has already

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been through it one time, and so they know the expectation.

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You know, just recall from calls how we fit certain things.

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You know, we like to be multiple on defense, So

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sometimes it's hard to get everything taught through a spring

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and through a fall camp as far as what you

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might see on any given Saturday. So it's definitely been

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I would say, much smoother from that standpoint as far

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as getting you know, getting everybody aligned in the same direction.

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And then again with the additions that we made, I

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think we brought in a lot of mature and hungry guys.

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So it's been it's been a fun.

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Speaker 5: Spring so far, coach.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, when you and I were playing college football, there

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wasn't a ton of transfers. I mean my entire career,

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we might have had like two transfers come in come out,

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probably the same situation for you when you were playing.

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But now it is the norm, and now you do

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have roster turnover. So that's just something that everybody's kind

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of used to. But when you bring somebody in, like

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what is that process? Like do you try to get

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you know, maybe a leader to kind of show them

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the ropes? Do you try to put him in certain

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groups like, hey, take care of this guy showing bat

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and rouge showing LSU tell.

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Speaker 5: Him what we're all about.

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Speaker 3: Like what's kind of the steps you take whenever somebody

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knew because it oftentimes is an older player who's already

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you know, known one culture at another place, and now

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he's got to learn this culture.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think some of it happens organically. I think

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some guys, uh, you know, I'll use a Jack Pieburn

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for example. I think it didn't matter what program he

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went to. He's a uh, you know, take the bull

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by the horns kind of guy and he's gonna lead

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straight out of the gate, where some guys you know,

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take a little longer to adjust. But the one thing

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that we talk about is making sure that you know,

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they're comfortable and whatever that means, whether it us as coaches,

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you know, spending extra time with them, making sure that

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we try to pair them up with guys that we think, uh,

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you know that they'll get along with and and the

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quicker they're comfortable, the quicker they're going to you know,

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be the best version of themselves on the football field.

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So I would say it's not just the standard operating

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procedure cookie cutter, like this is what we're gonna do.

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I think each guy you got to treat differently. And

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each guy, you know that transfers in is sometimes in

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different stages of their career. Some guys, you know, I

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call it their contract year. They're coming in for their

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senior year, and and some guys you know, happen to

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be younger. So you know, I think you got to

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handle it a case by case basis.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Jack there, and you know this about me, coach,

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meathead is a term of endearment for me, like I

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am a card carrying member of meathead Nation. Jack as

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as well. Like I saw the interview is with Weeks

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or West. Weeks mad that he might be the most

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meathead on the team.

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Speaker 6: They like to compete for it. Man. So I don't think, honestly,

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those are three guys that hit it off right away,

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because all three of them are are meatheads, and and

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they they're like you and I, they're like accepting that role.

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They don't. They don't take it as a as an

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insult we call the meathead. But you know, I think

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I think there's something to be said for that. I

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think again, when you when you talk about building a

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defense in particular and probably a team in general, you

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don't want one hundred of the same guys, right if

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you want guys with different personalities. But those guys have

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all pushed each other. They're all best friends. Off the field,

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you know, they're they're competing, uh, you know for the

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same goal in mind. So it's been it's been fun

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to watch and.

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Speaker 3: Coach kind of staying with the linebacker position, I mean

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with the Week's brothers. And you also talk about Devine Keys.

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I mean, you've got guys that have kind of played

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multiple positions. I mean Devine Keys is playing Stars sometimes

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a year ago and actually did really well. And we

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think of the star position as maybe it's a safety,

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but he goes in there as a linebacker and does

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really really well. I mean we saw him not only

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in the bowl game where he has the interception for

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a touchdown, but you go back to the Florida game,

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I mean he had key moments in this year and

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so like, is that a player that maybe got accelerated

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a little bit a year ago, but now you're going

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to be counting on him this upcoming season.

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Speaker 6: Oh very much. So you know, we we laugh all

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the time now, you know, he was an early en

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roll leee and we were so deep at the beginning,

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you know, going back to last spring and even at

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the beginning of last year, he really didn't get a

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lot of reps. And a big credit to him as

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far as staying in the playbook and not losing sight

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because you know, as a freshman, especially man, that can

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be hard your first time away from home. You're coming,

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you know, you're you're ambitious, you want to say the

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world on fire. And there was days he maybe got five, three,

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four reps a day in spring, but it never it never,

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it never deterred him as far as staying with it,

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staying in the playbook. And you know, as coaches, you

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you talk all the time about you never know when

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your number is gonna be called. But last year linebacker

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in particular, that definitely held true with with West having

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the red shirt, with Perk going down with you know,

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Wit even going down in the Bowl game. But he's

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a guy, you know. Him and West were rotating them

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positions pretty much every single day in the spring, between

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Mike and will Man, and they have done an outstanding

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job and a lot of that's just to provide position flexibility,

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so we don't, you know, buying like we did last year.

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And both of those guys are are taking heed to

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it and and really been studying the playbook because it's

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not easy to flip positions every single day. And I'm

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really proud of those two guys.

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Speaker 3: Could yea with LSU DVIS coordinator Blake Baker here on

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O t B. You mentioned Perk there as well. We

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know w spin out with injury and we've seen some

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of the video of him working out. And I know

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you and harl Perkins have a great relationship, remember talking

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with you about that last off season, how much film

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y'all watch together, kind of where is he at now

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as far as his mindset and maybe what you see

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his future looking like in the.

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Speaker 6: Fall Man Perk is extremely locked in, you know. And

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I said this and when it happened, and I didn't

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mean it in a negative light, but but in some ways, uh,

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you know, being hurt might have been the best best

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thing that ever happened to him, kind of just sit back,

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you know, let the game unfold from a mental standpoint

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in front of him. But but the the the attention

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to detail, the work that he's putting in with with

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Jack and Marucci downstairs, with the VR obviously not being

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able to get the physical reps on the field, he

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could easily, you know, take take it easy and just

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come to the hour film meeting that we do every

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single day and that be it. But he's going above

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and beyond and answering questions and and he's extremely locked in.

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So I think, uh, he's gon have a He's gonna

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have a big year next year, you know. And I

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don't want to put I think part of the problem,

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in my opinion, has been the expectation that's been put

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on them. And obviously with a player that talent and

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that caliber, uh you know, we still got to remember

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that he's he's, you know, twenty years old or whatever

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he is. So but I do I do think he's

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gonna have an outstanding season. I think he's really focused.

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And I think between him and and and West and

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Devon and with and some of these you know, Ty

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Singleton's coming along, and then we get three more freshmen.

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I think they're all gonna they're all gonna compliment each

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other really really well. So I don't think the onus

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is gonna be on. Oh, here's harl Perkins, He's the

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star of the defense. I think we have a lot

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of really really good players in that room that that

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feed off of each other make each other better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned a little bit earlier coach bringing

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some new faces in to help with that, and I

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mean we could go name for name and Cooley coming

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over and Peyton coming over and all these different names.

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But like all the players that have come over, like

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maybe kind of how they integrated themselves, because we're talking

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about seniors.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about fiftier seniors.

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Speaker 3: Tell my guys that have been dudes in other places

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now trying to help this l s U defense. What

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are some of the things you've seen from that group

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of players, Those veteran players that have come over from

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the portal.

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Speaker 6: Man, they they're they're about their business man. They they

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just they come in, they work. There's not a lot

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of talking, uh as far as in between plays. You know,

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they're they're they're just they put their head down and

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they grind. Man. They're blue collar guys that have really really,

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in my opinion, they've really helped our culture. And you know,

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and we talk about Spring being about independent player development,

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like we're not worried about who goes out there with

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the ones, who goes out there with twos. We switched

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that up daily as far as and within the day

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one period it might be uh, Jamari and Jack out there,

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and then the next day might be Pat and and

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Gabe Brutherford. So, uh, I think they're an unselfish group,

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Like I said, a lot of them it is. They're

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they're you know, I think half of them probably they're

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they're the last year. So they just want to win.

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And to me, sometimes you got to be careful that

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in the recruiting process when you're bringing in transfer some

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guys can be mercenaries where they're all about themselves, and

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this group is not that at all. They're all about

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LSU football. They're all about winning a championship and hard

476
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,119
work and unselfish, blue collar guys. So I think they've

477
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,079
added to our culture.

478
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,839
Speaker 3: To be quite honest with you, Well, I mean you

479
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,160
mentioned all those traits and you also brought a coaching

480
00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:29,480
that has all those traits and cares about LSU, loves LSU,

481
00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:32,119
and unfortunately for me, I've had to deal with this

482
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,119
human being since district play in high school football when

483
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,799
we were in the same district. Luckily we were teammates

484
00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:41,240
at LSU. But I got my welcome to LSU moment

485
00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:44,200
when I was running fullback belly cut it backside, thought

486
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,680
I had an open gap and he closedlined me. It

487
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,359
was number ninety five Kyle Williams. Then he goes and

488
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,599
plays like a thousand years in the NFL. What's it

489
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,039
been like getting Kyle Williams into the fold now, going

490
00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:57,160
to be working with that defensive line. I think we

491
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,400
all know the mentality and I know you know him

492
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,559
as welcoming in.

493
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, Kyle's been He's been awesome. I mean when you

494
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,440
talk about all like we just talked about all the

495
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,000
trades that you look for in a player you look

496
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:12,599
for to coach, you know, extremely humble, you know, and

497
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,440
he played like you said, he played thirteen years or

498
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,400
whatever it was in the NFL and it's been an

499
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,279
all pro. But you never know it when you sit

500
00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:23,759
down and talk with him, you know, He just wants

501
00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:25,559
to bring out the best in our guys, and I

502
00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:28,759
think that, you know, he's bringing out a little more attack,

503
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:32,279
a little more vertical presence on the inside, which is

504
00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:34,400
what we want. And when we sat down and talked

505
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480
for the first time, I mean, shoot, I'm not a

506
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,519
big phone guy. I know he's not a big phone guy.

507
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,160
We sat there and talked for an hour in forty

508
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,720
five minutes, and you know, so we hit it off

509
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,559
right away just from a personality standpoint. Then when we

510
00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:50,480
talk ball, we hit it up from a stylistic standpoint,

511
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:53,279
and I think he gets the most out of our players.

512
00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,839
Even talking to some of the guys at Rusting beforehand,

513
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,119
you know their strength. Coach. At Rustin actually played for

514
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,440
me at Louisiana Tech and he said going things and

515
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,640
Kyle's lived up to it. Man, He's been really really

516
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,279
fun to work with.

517
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really excited about that hire, just you know,

518
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,480
being a teammate, knowing what he's all about. I think

519
00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:13,599
he's doing a fantastic job already. Going to continue to

520
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,559
do that, all right, Coach, Before we get you out

521
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,880
of here, the chat wants to know something you talk

522
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960
about not wanting to have poodles. You said, no poodles.

523
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,400
Don't want any poodles over here. T Bob's out sick today.

524
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,039
Would you consider that a poodle?

525
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Man, there's there's no reason to miss talking on

526
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,640
the radio. They got they got cough drops. T Bob.

527
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,480
I hope you're listening, and I'm thoroughly disappointed. I did

528
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,680
not expect that type of behaviorality you.

529
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 7: But we'll get you.

530
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 6: Over here, get you some plate pushes, man, and get

531
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,720
you fixed right back up.

532
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I needed to hear. Coach, you're the man.

533
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:47,720
I appreciate it.

534
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: I'll actually see you, like in a couple hours over there,

535
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,079
pro day, looking forward to it.

536
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,279
Speaker 6: Awesome, slea, Jacob. I appreciate you having me. Man.

537
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: All right there he is lsudbits coordinator Blake Baker good

538
00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,480
enough to join us there. We had like we had

539
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,039
to do it. We had to do it. Like when

540
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,640
y'all brought that up. I was like, Oh, we have

541
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,000
to do it. We gotta get that SoundBite.

542
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:07,079
Speaker 8: I can't wait to pull that clip and show T Bob.

543
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,279
Speaker 5: He's gonna be disappointed.

544
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 8: He is, because he's he's gonna throw a fit.

545
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 5: No, he is. We love you tea.

546
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm waiting he's gonna be like, guys, did y'all not

547
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:21,839
see me on Tuesday?

548
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 5: I couldn't have made it.

549
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: No, and look like I've taken a sick day. I

550
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,480
took one after the super Bowl?

551
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 5: Maybe Yeah.

552
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: Now Landra, Elandra's the too gritty to be pretty. She

553
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:36,680
was drowning last week. I mean she sounded like she

554
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:38,200
was underwater.

555
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 8: Talking checking on me like every segment. I'm just like,

556
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,839
I don't know, it's getting progressively worse.

557
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,039
Speaker 5: Oh man, oh so yeah, we love you. Ta just

558
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:47,519
don't be a poodle'll be a poodle.

559
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: Uh, we will step away. Want to react to some

560
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,920
of what Blake Baker said. There's certainly a lot of

561
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,880
great stuff there Transfer Portal, Kyle Williams, uh, Harold Perkins,

562
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,960
a lot of stuff to break down, a lot of

563
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,319
stuff to get into. And we'll do that when we

564
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,839
jump back here on OTV. Off the bench, all right,

565
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,839
go to get Gordon dot Com. Get Gordon dot Com, Alandra,

566
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,960
doesn't sound like you're fully healed yet with that cough.

567
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:15,920
Getgordon dot Com is the website and you can really

568
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,359
do it all there. I mean, you can have a

569
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,720
chat with them right there on the homepage, Like as

570
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,759
soon as you log in, it's gonna pop up, Hey,

571
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:24,039
how can we help you today? Remember, you can get

572
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,759
that free consultation set up on the website as well.

573
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,279
You also can go to a full list of cases

574
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,359
they can handle for you. You can go to past

575
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client results as well. All that information is going to

576
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,000
be right there on get gordon dot com.

577
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 5: Now.

578
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 3: Also, remember on social media the handle at good Gordon,

579
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,920
so they've always got something going on in your local

580
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,839
community throughout the state of Louisiana. You can find all

581
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,079
that information again by searching for get Gordon, putting that

582
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,359
handle into whatever social media Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all that. Also,

583
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,839
if you're in Louisiana, don't matter where you're at, you

584
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480
pick up the phone, you put your area code followed

585
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,279
by eight eight eight eighty eight eighty eight, get Gordon

586
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,160
and get it done.

587
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Back to sports talk, maybe off the bench.

588
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,599
Speaker 3: I'm just letting this breathe. There's nothing I'm looking for anything.

589
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,000
I just I really enjoy the song Taylor. Can you

590
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,160
tell me the lead singer of Wallflowers.

591
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: Michael Wall all right, tenor Flowers.

592
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,519
Speaker 5: Alandra Jacob Dylan.

593
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that was my third, guess Jacob with a K.

594
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 5: Jacob with a K. Yes, I should think that was

595
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,519
the no. No.

596
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool when I was growing up.

597
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
I thought that was cool. Uh, can you tell me

598
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:37,039
Jacob's father?

599
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:45,079
Speaker 5: Is it Bob? There you go context clues, Yeah, not

600
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:52,440
to say Dylan, all right, great song, great song.

601
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: This kind of falls back into my like, hey, the

602
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,680
wallflowers are like really big, Like what we're in the world.

603
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:01,640
What are they doing now? Blake Baker just joined us

604
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:05,160
LSU defensive coordinator. Anything stand out to y'all?

605
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,519
Speaker 6: What was?

606
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,279
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a lot of great stuff and there're a

607
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,759
lot of great insight. Anything stand out more than others

608
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:10,240
to y'all.

609
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:10,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

610
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: His complimenting of Harold Perkins. Look, I'm not saying that

611
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,920
we've ever heard anything negative about Harold Perkins's work ethic,

612
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,880
but it's very easy to come in as a five star,

613
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
have a lot of success early on, and when things

614
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,440
don't go your way, you know, you can just kind

615
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,519
of sit around and mope about it. He said, you know,

616
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:32,160
two injuries here in back to back seasons, but he

617
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,880
talks about all the extra work that Harold Perkins has

618
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,880
put in all the side things that he's doing that

619
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,480
he's not required to do. He's doing that just because

620
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,759
he wants to. I mean, think about it. Blake Baker

621
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:43,519
has said, look, we're going to move him to this

622
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,640
star position full time, so he's kind of learning a

623
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,640
new spot at least full time. I mean, he had

624
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,599
played there a little bit. The fact that you know,

625
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,440
kind of unprovoked mentioned Harold Perkins and brought out his

626
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,640
work ethic that was big for me.

627
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought so as well. You know,

628
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,119
it is wild the career that Perk's had. I mean

629
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,880
his freshman year one of the best in the country. Right,

630
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160
It just it fit for that defense. And then you

631
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,519
know you're trying to find where he is.

632
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,079
Speaker 5: Going to live.

633
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:17,319
Speaker 3: And again, I know a lot of people want to

634
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:19,200
see him on the edge. He can be there, some

635
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:21,640
he cannot live there. That is not where he Just

636
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,119
trust me when I say, I've talked to SEC head

637
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:27,799
coaches that went against him when he was playing more

638
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,559
edge than not, and they were running right at him,

639
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,880
and that's okay, Like that's not what he's built to be, right.

640
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,319
I mean even Michael Parsons falls into some of that

641
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,319
in the NFL. Right if you want to try to

642
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,240
have a comp for perk. Star position is going to

643
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,400
be great for him. It's some what he can cover.

644
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,559
His covered grades on Pro Football Focus were incredibly high

645
00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:49,160
when he played the star position. I would assume Blake

646
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,079
Baker is going to bring him off the edge still

647
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,440
because remember how many times we see major burns off

648
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,319
the edge last year. Well, that's going to be harl

649
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,839
Perkins this year. So you'll still get that portion of him.

650
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,039
You got to get him healthy though before anything, and

651
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,759
so Harold Perkins being healthy, with Weeks being healthy, that's

652
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:08,920
something certainly that else you is going to focus on

653
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,599
as they head into summer training.

654
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,519
Speaker 5: Elandra, anything for you stand out.

655
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:16,599
Speaker 8: I just love that he confirmed that t Bob's a poodle.

656
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,039
Speaker 5: I can't get over that.

657
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:24,599
Speaker 8: But no, like I know that Taylor like he really

658
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,000
it's not that there's like questions on his work ethic,

659
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,200
but there have been like a little bit of questions

660
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,279
on Harold Perkins, like in general, So the praise for

661
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,160
him is pretty big coming from someone like Blake Baker.

662
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,200
But like Blake Baker just generally impresses me every single

663
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,359
time he talks, like he's just like a very smart person,

664
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,079
and I don't know, Like, I just love Blake Baker.

665
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,200
I don't think anybody better could be in that role.

666
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited for your number two.

667
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: You're number one. You try to implement. Hey, here's who

668
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,799
we are, but here's who we need to be. Here's

669
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:01,519
who we're going to be. Mentioned pybrin there and coming

670
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,039
in with his attitude, Like his attitude is what I

671
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,160
think of when I think of Blake Baker. Yeah, and

672
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,640
that's why, like, and Blake knows this about me, Like

673
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,799
I am aoka, Like being a meathead is it's not

674
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,119
a joke, it's not a stick like I. That is

675
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,279
a term of endearment for me. You have to have

676
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880
a handful of meatheads on your team, and he's got some. Yeah,

677
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,119
that's like, that's how he played, That's how he coaches.

678
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,440
It is all grit, don't care who gets the glory.

679
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,759
We're gonna go out there. It's gonna be bass to

680
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:31,920
the wall and we're gonna give you everything we have.

681
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,480
It is the old Dan Campbell, right, We're gonna bite

682
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,200
you in the kneecaps. Yeah, and you that I do too.

683
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,279
And some people it's not for them. Some people can't

684
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,640
handle that. I want all of it. Yeah, right, I

685
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,440
want that mixed with you know, the guys that they

686
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,680
brought in to be off the edge, mixed with Cooley

687
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,200
from North Carolina State, mixed with whoever. Right, you have

688
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,519
to have a portion of that on your defense, certainly

689
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,279
when your defensive coordinator has that as like kind of

690
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,599
his mindset. So I look, I'm looking forward to it.

691
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Is there questions. Absolutely, it's not all sunshine and rainbows.

692
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Who's gonna play safety? We got to find out who's

693
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,240
gonna be your best edge rusher. We got to find

694
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:14,759
out who's going to be the tandem in the middle.

695
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,599
As far as defensive tackle, we gotta find out. You

696
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,319
got a lot of candidates at inside linebacker. I feel

697
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,440
really good about that position. But who's going to be

698
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,720
the main two? We got to figure that out, right,

699
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,759
So there's still questions, there's still concerns. But with who

700
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,640
they brought him, you know, pair of that with Blake

701
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,519
Baker with his mindset, what he wants to get done.

702
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,720
You're number two compared to your number one. This defense

703
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:41,960
is going to be better. They are going to be better.

704
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:49,680
Last year's defense, you know, didn't explode, didn't blowing themselves

705
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,839
and you know, have those old miss moments. But Blake

706
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,359
knows that it's going to continue to get better. So

707
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,319
I'm excited about it. Still have things they've got to

708
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,079
figure out, still have to figure out a couple of

709
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,960
different positions. I love adding Kyle Williams, Bo Davis, Bo

710
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,400
Diddley's my guy as well. Bo didn't want to do

711
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,720
college football anymore. Bo wanted to go to the NFL.

712
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,240
So Kyle Williams is somebody I've got the utmost respect for.

713
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,599
I think he's one of the best players I ever

714
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,680
played with right and I know his mindset. I know

715
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,119
what he said in front of the team when he

716
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,480
was a player. He was like a coach on the field.

717
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,039
I love bringing in Kyle Williams. And you heard Blake

718
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:23,440
Baker talk about that as well, So UH enjoyed that.

719
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,039
Always enjoy catching up with Blake, and I definitely did.

720
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:27,960
He had just had I think it was either labram

721
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,079
or rotator surgery, because all linebackers from the early two

722
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:34,240
thousands have had it at some point, and I just man,

723
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:35,640
I gave him one of the good.

724
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,359
Speaker 5: Old like what's up, coach? Oh Man, I felt awful.

725
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680
I felt awful. I was that guy.

726
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was probably like like.

727
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: He was, he was trying to like, yeah, yeah, if

728
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,240
you had to punch me, i'd understood.

729
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,359
Speaker 8: I do love that he said that. Uh and Jack

730
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,759
kind of compete over who's Yeah, yes.

731
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:01,559
Speaker 5: The West too, Yeah, yeah, that that is amazing.

732
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: You can't have a team full of them. You can't

733
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,640
have eleven of them out there, but man, I need

734
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880
three or four, Yeah, I need three or four. Hit

735
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,199
your limits, You've hit your psycho wipe.

736
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,679
Speaker 2: You may have hit your limit with the coaching staff

737
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,519
as well. You're talking about Blake Baker. Like guys, Kyle

738
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,119
Williams is the epitome of that. Like anybody to watch

739
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,760
Kyle in the NFL, Like, that's Kyle to a t.

740
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding in I had to go against Kyle

741
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,559
in high school, like he's been that Yeah as always when.

742
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: He was he was a senior when you got there, ring, No.

743
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: He's a junior.

744
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: You played two years together here, Yeah, because yeah, yeah,

745
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,960
because he was a senior sophomore when he was at

746
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,039
RUST and I was out of Bangel.

747
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:41,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.

748
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: We'll step away. Coach Matt McCall serious XM field of

749
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,199
sixty eight. We'll join us to talk about n CUAA tournament.

750
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,480
We'll have that for you when we come back. It

751
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,440
is OTB one O four five ESPN Batterage.

752
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: Off the bench, back from the break where the sports

753
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,880
talk gets real, kind of off the bench and with

754
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,159
the Hester and t Bob.

755
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to you in OTV one of

756
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,800
four to five ESPN Baton. Rouge's going to catch up

757
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960
with coach Matt McCall talk about NCAA tournament here in

758
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,079
his second It is not his fault. It is Chris Childers,

759
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,599
the Show Pony's fault, because he's on with full ride

760
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,840
on Sirius xm over on our channel eighty four. And

761
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,719
I should have known the Show Pony was going to

762
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,639
go long, maybe even new Heisel did. But we'll get

763
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:29,239
coach Matt McCall on here with us coming up. Until then,

764
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,320
like we can take a look at the brackets over

765
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,239
there on the wall, even though coach is coming in

766
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,320
and I'm sitting here and I'm looking at mine right now, and.

767
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,039
Speaker 5: Gosh, it's doing well.

768
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,639
Speaker 3: But just seeing the Florida Gator logo next to my

769
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,960
name just does not feel right. But our next guest

770
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,760
is going to enjoy that because not only was he

771
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,599
an assistant coach for Florida, he's Florida through and through.

772
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:54,679
He's the head coach U T Chattanooga U Mass as well.

773
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,599
I've got too many Gators in my life, and this

774
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,119
man's one of them. Coach Matt McCall, what's up, brother, tester?

775
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 7: Don't forget son of a Florida Gator linebacker, the greatest,

776
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400
the greatest linebacker in the history of the University of

777
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,639
Florida's program. Not Brandon Spikes, not not any of these guys.

778
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,280
Spikes to me all all right, Number thirty eight, Wayne

779
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,719
McCall after the defense nineteen sixty seven. So, Hester, man,

780
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,639
what's going on? I know we're here to talk some moves.

781
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:25,039
And it seems like the last time I've talked to you,

782
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:29,000
we had like eighteen other coaching changes, eighteen other coaches

783
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,559
get hired. So what's the word, man?

784
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,039
Speaker 5: I mean, how different is that?

785
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you've been through this, You've been a head

786
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,719
coach in multiple places, and you're right, it's like, hey,

787
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,679
this job's open, this job's closed. I mean, Xavier is

788
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239
a job that you and I talked in linked on Monday.

789
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,039
Now Richard Patino takes that job, and we weren't quite

790
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:48,239
sure were actually I think we were talking Villanova when

791
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,800
we brought his name up. But now he goes to

792
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,000
Xavier and he's going to go against Pops twice a year, Like,

793
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,119
how about that move for them?

794
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great move. In fact, I was just

795
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:00,639
on with Childers and New hisl and they were asking

796
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,000
me about it, and you know, isn't an upgrade for

797
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,800
for Richard? And it one hundred percent is an upgrade.

798
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,000
It's funny story. And I'm not trying to bash New

799
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,119
Mexico's program by any means. But I talked to Richard

800
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,840
right after the Mountain West tournament, and two days after

801
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,519
they had lost, he was walking around Las Vegas and

802
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,360
I said, what are you doing? He said, our Southwest

803
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,840
flight was canceled. He's like, we're gonna wait on another

804
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,679
one to come come take us home. Are we flying commercially?

805
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,440
He ain't flying commercial as Xavier. I can promise you

806
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,800
that he's not flying commercial to games, He's not flying

807
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,199
commercial recruiting. Yeah, so really happy for him. You know,

808
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840
when when you lose your job, he gets let go

809
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,559
at Minnesota It puts a lot of things in perspective

810
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,719
for you, and you know, you can become a better coach,

811
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,360
you can become a better leader, and that's he's evident

812
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,199
of that with the job that he did at New Mexico.

813
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,239
So for him to be able to get a Big

814
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,840
East opportunity, happy for him. I think it's a great

815
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,599
hire for Xavier, and I think it's a great move

816
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:53,039
for Richard. And like you said, we're gonna get Patino

817
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,159
on Patino hopefully more than twice next year, maybe even

818
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:57,000
in the Big East Tournament.

819
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point. Possibly could get it three

820
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,800
to now.

821
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: Coach, you were on the bench there for the Florida

822
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,599
Gators winning national championships and so you know SEC basketball

823
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,719
to be played at a high level. But I mean

824
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,880
what's going on right now is just ludicrous. Fourteen teams

825
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,239
make the tournament seven in the suite sixteen, Like, how

826
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,320
do you compare maybe when you were coaching in the SEC,

827
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,079
because it was really good at the time. I mean

828
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,239
LSU made a Final four run in two thousand and six.

829
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,159
I mean it wasn't just Florida, you know that. I

830
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,400
mean it was highly competitive. How do you compare that

831
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,199
to now.

832
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 7: Well, look you just said it. I mean I was

833
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,440
fortunate enough to be a part of three final fours

834
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,599
in two thousand and six. You know, US and LSU

835
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,599
were both there. In twenty fourteen, US and Kentucky were

836
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,039
both there, So you know, getting two teams from the

837
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:47,360
SEC into both of those final fours. But when you

838
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,920
look at the league from top to bottom, I think

839
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,599
back in the two thousand and six, two thousand arrow

840
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:55,440
of the twenty fourteen era. At that time, you know,

841
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,039
you look at the bottom of the league, and the

842
00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:59,679
bottom of the league wasn't great. So where you were saying, okay,

843
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,239
this is almost a guaranteed win, This is almost a

844
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,480
guaranteed win. Like Auburn. Back in the day, it was

845
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:07,199
like the jungle. Wasn't the jungle? I promise you that.

846
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,679
I mean, you go in there. There was nobody in

847
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239
those seats. And now you've got what I think was

848
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440
a good LSU team this year. I had him early

849
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,800
on in the season, Matt McMahon and you know Lamont

850
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,760
Parris is South Carolina. Those are the only two teams

851
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,239
that didn't make the NCAA tournament. Well, had this not

852
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,480
been such a historic year. Maybe those teams would have

853
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,480
had an even better year because both of them had

854
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,840
some talent on those rosters. That's just how good this

855
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,639
this league is. To have sevent teams seven get to

856
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:39,320
the sweet sixteen. I mean, that is that obviously. I mean,

857
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,239
do the map amost have the field right now left?

858
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,800
So it's really remarkable. I think, you know, we were

859
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,880
joking around radio yesterday. If this final four ends up

860
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,360
being at least three SEC teams, someone needs to get

861
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,119
Greg Sank one of those team chairs and just let

862
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,559
him sit there on the court and feed them grapes

863
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,760
and bring them wine and put a crown on his

864
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,000
head and just let him wave to the crowd because

865
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:04,920
this is exactly what he wanted and he got it.

866
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

867
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:09,519
Speaker 3: I think between if that happens, baseball always being where

868
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:13,719
it's at, gymnastics being where it's at, football certainly always

869
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,840
being where it's at. I mean we could go softball

870
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,559
being where it's at. Yeah, I think that would just

871
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,679
be something you just go ahead and do because you're right, like,

872
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,159
if you get three of the four, that is exactly

873
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,119
what he visioned back in twenty fourteen when he said

874
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,360
you have to make changes real quick.

875
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 5: I know you know Matt McMahon a.

876
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: Little bit there, and LSU is a place that wants

877
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,119
to be good at basketball, and the fans want to

878
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,239
be good at basketball, and certainly Kim maulkey and the

879
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,039
women's side of things, they've done exactly that. They've won

880
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,920
national championship. They're in the sweet sixteen again. You had LSU,

881
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,079
as you mentioned earlier in the year. Do you think

882
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,000
it is something that can happen. Can LSU be the

883
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,320
Missouri of this year that you went winless in the

884
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,519
SEC the year before the Mazoo makes a tournament?

885
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's. Look, when the clock hit zero

886
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,960
for Matt McMahon and his staff, it's it's you know,

887
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,719
this is not time to head to the beach and

888
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
drink a corona. This is this is time to get

889
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,440
to work. And with over a thousand kids, think about that,

890
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,159
Hester there's a thousand kids in the transfer portal right now.

891
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,360
They need to attack it, and they need to attack

892
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,119
it the right way, and not just get talented guys

893
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:19,360
in there, but get some guys in there that fit

894
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,719
his personality, get some guys in there that are about

895
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,760
the things that he's about, and guys that he can coach.

896
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:26,760
You know, go back to your days at you know,

897
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Murray State and look at your rosters and look at

898
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880
the years that you had the best. You know, obviously

899
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,960
John Morant was a terrific player. Campaign was a terrific

900
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,719
player for those guys at Murray State. But there's also

901
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
some hot character guys there too, and that that may

902
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719
be something that he and his staff need to look

903
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,199
at of. Hey, look, we're not just going to accumulate

904
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,440
talent here. Who can Matt McMahon coach. Who does he

905
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,800
do a great job coaching? And let's go find those guys.

906
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,039
Let's go find him. Make sure we've got a healthy

907
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,800
nil budget, but let's go find him. It can be

908
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,639
flipped in one year. I mean, Dusty may Is two

909
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,880
games removed or two games from a Final four, and

910
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,119
Michigan program last year was the shambles when he took

911
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:06,039
it over, that's the bottom line. And now all of

912
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:07,880
a sudden he brings in the right guys, he gets

913
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,800
a little bit of retention, he brings this big man

914
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,880
with them, black Golden and they got a chance to

915
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,320
get to a Final four. So it can be done.

916
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,320
I think it's just it's self evaluation. And now that

917
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,320
the portal's open, it's like, who can this guy coach?

918
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,840
That is your job as an assistant coach, not to

919
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,159
just bring him talented players. Who can he coach who

920
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,119
reflects his personality as a coach. Go find out, guys,

921
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,519
and Matt McMahon. Look, he's a good coach. He's proven it.

922
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:35,440
He hasn't forgotten how to coach because he's had a

923
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,599
couple bad years at LSU. He knows how to coach

924
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,079
the game of basketball. It's just about surrounding him with

925
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:41,719
the right players coaching.

926
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 5: Matt McCall rub against the clock.

927
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: I blame the show pony and coach ring new Heizel

928
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,239
for taking too much of his time. But we appreciate

929
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,480
your time, coach. Are we on later today.

930
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 5: On eighty four?

931
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 7: I believe so? Oh we're gonna talk even more.

932
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely looking forward to that, coach. I appreciate your time

933
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,000
as always, and I catch up with you here.

934
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,599
Speaker 5: In a couple hours.

935
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: Alkie bros All, Right, there he is.

936
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: Matt McCall does a great job for NBC Field of

937
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,840
sixty eight. Sirius XM been a head coachy humas UT

938
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,079
Chattanooga and was an assistant there for the back to

939
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:16,480
back national championships at Florida. All right, we will step

940
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,559
away our number three. We're going to kick off a

941
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:22,239
little D one baseball. Kendall Rogers talking LSU off the

942
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,599
bench