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Speaker 1: Hi, This is James Buckley. And if, like me, you

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have ever wondered what other movie stars could have appeared

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in the Outsiders, or just what drove Mariah Carey to

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record a perennial Christmas classic, then you need to listen

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to the shirtle you Can't Be Serious podcasts coming at

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you every Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: All right, d before we get this podcast started, you

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gotta do the Trouble Show. Come on, do it? Come on.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, well, go ahead to get this Thanks star,

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thank god, a little stress there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hello everybody.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back to the Shirley you Can't Be Serious podcast.

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We are here today doing video again.

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Speaker 2: It's a little grainy. We're gonna get We're gonna get

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better for you.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna improve the quality because you know we're gonna

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we want to start your expectations low and then just

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build up and show you how awesome we can do.

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Speaker 4: On that note, yes, if you're listening to this podcast, yeah,

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you can go see this podcast on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can see what Jason looks like and what

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I look like at least kind of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, camera adds ten pounds, I know.

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Speaker 3: All right, so that that scene I want to talk

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about that scene, the truffle shovel scene, right, yeah, So

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do you remember how they let him in? Because this

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is a story of organ that they're filming in and

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it was notorious for like you didn't know whether it

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was going to be a beautiful sunny day or it

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was going to be like a downpour, and they were

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in kind of a rainy, crappy situation. And he's all

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the way out at the gate and they're up on

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the porch.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember what they do?

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Speaker 3: They've got like this the wily coyote contraption that does

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the stuff that like, you know, the bowling ball and

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all this other stuff that aultimately opened the gate for him,

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right all right, yeah, okay, So if you look closely

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along the stuff along the the way there there is

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a little insignia that says Rube G on it. Okay,

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Rube G is Rube Goldberg. He was a Pulitzer Prize

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winning cartoonist who would do these drawings of these very

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elaborate mechanical contraptions that really produced a very simple action.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: You know what else you see? If you look really closely,

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you see chicken pox scars on Chunk Jeffery Cohen because

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he had the chicken pox, but he didn't want to

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miss the movie, and so he just dealt with the

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chicken pox.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he showed up with the chickenpox because he was

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afraid to get replaced. That's fantastic. So now there's something else. Okay,

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the clothes that they all wear. Oh yeah, it shows

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up somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought this up.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Jurassic Park, that's it. Oh, okay, tell us more

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about that.

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Speaker 2: So the clothes, so you've you've got the Hawaiian shirt.

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Speaker 3: Members only jacket, right, isn't that what Mouth wears is

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the member's only jacket.

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Speaker 4: Mouth was the member's only jacket.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you'll see all of these things. I think it

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may be just one guy. It may just be the

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what's the Dennis Nedri Yes, the right, yeah, yes, newman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So all of his clothing options in Jurassic Park

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mirror what Chunk wears and the goonies.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, including the raincoat the raincoat. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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there you go. Throw back to by the way, throw

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back to our Jurassic Park versus Jaws episode, which we

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did when those movies were number one and number two

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in the box office because it was the middle of

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COVID and nobody what's going out to the movies unless

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it was a drive in movie, and the drive in

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movies were only showing the old movies like Jaws and

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Jurassic Park. And on that note, the composer for both

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of those movies was John Williams. John Williams and John

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Williams is obviously also the composer for Indiana Jones and

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Jurassic Park episode, because I go into a huge, like

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a ridiculous rabbit hole amount of information about John Williams

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and that one. But unsurprisingly, he came back to do

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Speaker 4: Now I will tell you this, Yeah, we looked at this.

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he not just go right into the Goonies and do

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the music for the Goonies? We really couldn't find anything.

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Speaker 3: Except Yeah, I was gonna say, I just thought he's

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too expensive. You thought he didn't because he didn't do

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Speaker 4: Evini did nothing in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I just thought he was too expensive.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is they didn't know how Goonies was

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ultimately going to turn out, because I mean it's full

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of people that nobody knew, like thee The only actor

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Speaker 4: Corey Feldman and Anne Ramsey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean even in Ramsey at that point,

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she hadn't done Throw Mama from the Train.

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Speaker 2: I mean she that's true.

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Speaker 3: Her most recent work was kind of small part in

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Every Which Way You Can Any which Way again, That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: John Williams's next project after The Goonies is a Kate

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Capshaw movie. Can you name that movie?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Crap, No, I don't know anything else space Camp. Oh

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of course, Oh, I forgot all about that. She wasn't

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even she wasn't blonde in that one?

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Speaker 4: Was she was not blonde in that one?

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Speaker 2: Darkened her hair for that movie.

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Speaker 4: Kate Capshaw, Leah Thompson, Kelly Preston, Yes, and a very

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young Joaquin Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, shout out to a film by podcast.

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I think it was Jeff and Dave that covered this one,

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but they covered space Camp. That was the very first

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episode of THEIRS that I listened to back in like

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twenty twenty one, I think. So go check out the

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film by podcast and go listen.

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Speaker 4: To the Space Camp Friends of Our nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so John Williams did not do the music for Goonies.

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The guy who did do the music for Goonies is

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a guy called Dave Gruesome, yes, who He's done a

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lot of good movies and a lot of bad movies.

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He for the good movies that he's done. He did Tutsie,

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he did on Golden Pond. He did My Bodyguard, which

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is a favorite of mine. He used to watch that

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Speaker 4: Matt Dylan's the bad guy, the bully.

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Speaker 3: I hated Matt Dilon like forever until there's something about Mary.

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I thought Matt Dylan was a dirty, slimmy piece of

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crap dude, because he was such a bad in My Bodyguard.

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We should cover that sometime. That's a great movie, Absence

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of Malice, Three Days of the Condor. He had done

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a lot of Sydney Pollock work and firm.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Murder by Death.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, murder by Death. We've kind of got that one

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Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Murder by Death was nineteen seventy five and it's

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about a group of folks getting together and then there's

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a murder and they have to solve a mystery inside

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of this house, which is almost identical to another nineteen

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eighty five movie that everybody loves called Clue. Sounds a

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lot like Clue to me, and so we are seriously considered.

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I had Peter Sellers in it. I mean, it's it's

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it's just crying out. Those two movies are to be compared,

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and so I think we got we gotta cover it

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maybe around Halloween or.

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Speaker 2: Something like that. Let's do it now.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting about the Dave Gruson soundtrack for the Goonies

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is that they use the for Telly chase that music

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that they do.

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Speaker 2: By the way, do you know what Fortelly means?

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Speaker 3: No, it means brothers, so that they're the brothers brothers. Okay,

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So the chase scene that they have. That music has

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been used in a bunch of previews or trailers as

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people call them these days, including Interspace and Scrooged, which

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we covered versus was it Christmas Vacation?

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Speaker 4: It was Christmas Vacation, another An Ramsey movie that we

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Speaker 2: That's right there.

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Speaker 4: You go, wow, well that's really good. Dave Gruson does

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a great job with the Goonies. Yeah, but when I

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look at his work, nothing else really stands out in

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a movie called Scandalous, which was a

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Speaker 4: Robert Hayes in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Robert Hayes and John Gilgod and yeah, I think

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the poster was like everybody was looking for a boom

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movie went to that one and was disappointed. And then

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people who didn't want to boo a move, who you

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Speaker 4: He had a knack of picking some good, some bad,

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Speaker 3: Which I mean, I've heard teary talk about ish Tar

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in like high praise, like it was it's not worth

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Speaker 4: Why not? I mean, Warren Baby, Dustin Hoffman, what the

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Speaker 3: Notice that I've got this was a present to me

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Speaker 2: Jaws three D.

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Speaker 3: You dude, I get the girls staring at me when

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Speaker 2: It's because everybody secretly loves Jaws three D.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So those are our two composers.

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Speaker 3: But in Goonies we also have a lot of pop

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music that's coming into play. We've got Ario Speedwagon, We've

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got the Bengals and the big song from Cindy Lapper herself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Steven Spielberg put her kind of in charge of

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gathering the talent for the soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now I will say this, I did own this soundtrack.

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I did like that sineut Lapper song. Yeah, re listening though, Man,

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I love. It doesn't matter. I don't care. It's been

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really did an age very well for me.

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Speaker 2: The video.

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Speaker 4: The video stinks. It's got Captain Lou Albano and Roddy

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overacting is atrocious.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of I listened to you listen listen

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watching it just a bit ago, and I was just like,

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oh my gosh, Cindy, just tone it downloadle girl, don't

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chew the scenery so much.

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Speaker 2: But I heard, and I haven't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch it, but I heard that the part

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of Sloth is played by Andre renee Russamov.

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Speaker 4: You know that, and Andrea the Giant.

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Speaker 3: Andre the Giant, you got it. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 4: So there's a song by Philip Bailey, who had a

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Speaker 3: I love that song that was on my list that

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do any of the Phil Collins Snowjacker required or the

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Genesis songs from eighty five, but that was separate.

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Speaker 2: It was technically a Bailey. It was Philip Bailey. It's

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Philip Bailey song with Phil Collins, although I didn't even

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remember that. Somebody else sang the sings.

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Michael Jackson, will you go be a

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part of my paranoid video and song?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, that's the only part people remember. Right.

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Speaker 4: So Philip Bailey performs a song written by.

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Speaker 2: Richard Marx oh nice.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty five, which is pre everything Richard Mars.

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Speaker 3: We know, right, So the there's you mentioned something to

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me and it had to do with one of the

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songs and I there's a deleted scene. Okay, yes, so

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just just talking about the setup of this movie.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: They filmed most of the Goonies in Astoria, Organ Organ

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but they the pirate ship was on like Stage nine

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of the Warner Brothers studios.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's huge. It's a real pirate ship, like they

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built it they built it. They built the whole pirate ship,

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and all of the action takes place on this pirate ship.

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an Aero Flynn movie. I think the same one where

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he slides down the sale with the knife. Okay, but

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they had the kids not look at the ship.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get to see the ship until until they

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slid down the water slide part. You know, another cool

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perfect kid movie special effect, because who didn't love water

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slides back in nineteen eighty five. And so anyway, whenever

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they came down, they filmed them to get their true,

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real first reaction, which was apparently just as impressive as

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they wanted to be, except that Josh Brolin said, and

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they're like caught. Damn it, Josh, Okay, let's do it again.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this too. I watched the commentary. Yeah,

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Corey Feldman admitted, with Donner present. Yeah, I snuck in

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and I saw it. Oh, and you could hear the

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disappointment in Donner's voice. Oh no, because that's the thing

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is that they kept it from the kids because they

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wanted their genuine reaction. And then, of course, you know,

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Feldman had snuck around and took a peek.

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Speaker 2: So anyway back to that scene, there is a deleted.

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Speaker 4: Scene, very famous deleted scene.

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Speaker 3: So now if you've seen, if you remember the end

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of the movie, Data is talking to the reporters and

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he's he's describing what's going on and he's like, oh,

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and the octopus is attack and all this, And as

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is this just supposed to be Like we're confused on

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whether the kids are making this up or is this

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just to be supposed to be some sort of kid

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behavior that you know, they just embellish everything, even the

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most amazing adventure anyone's ever had.

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Speaker 2: But as it turns out, there.

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Speaker 3: Was actually an octopus scene in the movie. As they've

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come down the water slide. They're in the water making

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their way towards the ship and there's a giant monster

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octopus in there. It keeps touching Steph's legs.

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Speaker 4: She thinks it's mouth yeah, and she's lugging her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she quitted it and he's like, I don't

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know what you're talking about, and then it like really

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touches her. She turns around and slaps him. And then

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when she's bawling him out. Then like the head comes

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up and you see these really terrible eyes. It was

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not a good not a good effect. But they go down,

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you know, and they have an underwater fight scene with it.

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tape like in a tape player that they shove in

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the mouth of the octopus.

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Speaker 4: That's how they defeat the octopus.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you have a story on what the song

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Speaker 4: So the song is called eight Arms to Hold You.

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Obviously that has to do with the octopus, right right, Yes,

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play the song eight Arms to Hold You, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And Data it's his walkman, which is you know, obviously

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a blast from the past, right, and he shoves it

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in the beak of the octopus, and that's how they

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defeat the octopus. That song is actually pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The producers got some like studio musicians to just

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kind of make this song.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But here's the here's the trivia question I have.

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decided it didn't look good.

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Speaker 2: It delays it, and it does look terrible.

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Speaker 4: It looks it looks like an amusement park, right like.

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Speaker 3: Through the Not that every special effect in this movie

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was flawless, but that one was really cheesy.

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Speaker 4: I tell you this. I want to talk about the

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warts of both of these movies here in a second.

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The producers of the and the director of the Goonies

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had the good vision to say, it's not working. Let's

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get it out of there, right, okay, even though they

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spend a bunch of money on it. Yeah, So a

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couple of couple of trivia questions for you on this, okay.

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So number one, when the Disney Channel showed The Goonies

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way back when they cut out all the objectionable stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right right, cuss words and cuss words and staring at

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the panties and stuff stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: And so it shranked the movie so much that they

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had to fill that gap, and they filled that gap

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with the octopus scene. So there is a generation who

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when they watched The Goonies, the octopus scene was just

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a part of their movie watching experience.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, no, I that was not me.

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Speaker 4: Right, I didn't see it either I.

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Speaker 3: Saw it in the theater and I probably saw it

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on like cable, like on hptail or something, Showtime or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think I was aware of that octopus scene through

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like Mad magazine or something like. I kind of knew

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about it, right, And of course I like that song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now here's my trivia question for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: The Beatles had a movie that was later called Help.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: The working title of that movie, yes, eight arms to

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hold you?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of the Beatles, yes, what did the boyfriend

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Octopus say to the girlfriend Octopus?

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Speaker 2: But I want to hold your hand? Hand hand hand, hand,

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hand hand.

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Speaker 4: Okay? Awesome.

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Speaker 3: That was from a joke book from when I was

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like seven years old. Again, I believe that came together

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forty two years later.

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Speaker 4: We're not above dad jokes on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about another scene that was deleted

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Speaker 3: Okay, is it the convenience store scene where we see

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brand for the first time.

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Speaker 4: That is not the scene I was going to talk about.

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We can talk about that scene if you want to.

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Speaker 2: No, it's fine. I mean, they're yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a redundant thing where they run into

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troy A in a convenience store and he's he's going

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to beat up the little guys and brand stops him

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and says, nobody hits my brother, but me right, we

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don't really need it, and it just slows everything down, right.

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But there was another scene that was filmed. There are

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pictures of this, like stills, but the film does not exist.

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It's been lost to the hands of time whatever, right,

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but you can kind of maybe there's some reference to

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it anyway. It's when they're underneath and they're they're pushing

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the pipes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, when they see there's ridiculous stuff.

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Speaker 4: Going on like those three stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: The water fountain is going up and down and stuff. Yes, yes,

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is they're screaming let me out, let me out.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: But during that scene that was supposed to cause all

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these gorillas to get loose from the zoo.

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Speaker 2: Oh the gorillas, right, yes, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: And like then they had like gorillas driving cars and

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just totally ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: This was this was Spielberg's motorcycle on the China Wall

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into the Lost World, like he was obsessed about having

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this scene in there, and Dick Donner was like Steve,

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you love this so much, I really think you should

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fill all of those scenes. And they were all filmed right,

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Like there's you know, car crashing into a boat, that

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the gorillas, they steal red stuff, they steal red golf cart,

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they steal Troy's red car. I mean, it's just it's

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a comedy silliness like Abbott and Costello. That fortunately, Yeah,

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that was along with the Octopus a wise cut.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was a wise cut.

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Speaker 3: So on that note, just the direction of the movie.

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his book There and Back Again called it a co

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direction of those two. Like Spielberg was directing at least

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half of the movie and Dick Donner was directing the

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other half.

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Speaker 4: Makes sense. Sure they're two masters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's pretty seamless.

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Speaker 4: Well, and Spielberg has a habit of stepping in on

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his production. I mean Poltergeist, Toby Hooper is listed as

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the director, right at all, Right, I'm pretty sure Spielberg

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directed most of that movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, Okay, so tho. You know, we talked

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about the deleted scenes from Goonyes. Let's talk about the

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deleted scenes from Temple of Doom.

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Speaker 2: I think that somebody believes the good luck Crock from

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this village is one of the last on Carrastones Fortune

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and Glory, Kid, Fortune and Glory.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So I don't know if you know this,

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but like this movie is very much a remake of Gungaden.

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Like that, it's almost it's almost a beat by beat

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recreation of Gungaden. Now, when we listen to Steven Spielberg,

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we're both listening to the commentary or the behind the

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scenes at the same time. Spielberg says it was a

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direct homage, which is what you say, instead of copy

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of Gungaden. But there it's almost a spot on match.

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the they have the big group of turbine wearing people

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who are all seem to be revering this big statue.

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You know, very similar stuff. But you've got this. You

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got this part in the movie where Short Round or

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Short Round, he's like, I love you and he doesn't,

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you know, he doesn't want to do this, but he

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burns Indy and that wakes him up right. Well, there's

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a scene right before that where he's down there with

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the rest of the slave kids, right, and he sees

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a guard catch on fire somehow. I don't know what

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causes the fire, but when the guard catches on fire,

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he snaps out of the spell and he becomes nice again, right, okay,

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that the fire is secured to the problem, right. And

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then of course after that scene, they are able to

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free you know, you have the big fight scene with

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pat Roach again, and then they're able to free all

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, those kids, I mean, they weren't just chained

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like they they're captive inside of that cave. So what

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for them to run across. But then obviously short round,

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Indy and Willy are all left behind. What happens is

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the bridge catches on fire and like the last kid

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makes it across, but then they're stuck there, which is

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why they have to use the.

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Speaker 3: The carts to get out when they could have easily.

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I mean, all the kids get out, right, and they

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don't have to go through those tunnels.

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Speaker 2: They that's makes sense, now, Okay, I'll get out.

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Speaker 4: And that's a question that I've never really even asked myself, like,

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Indie Short, Round and Willy barely escape with their lives,

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but also the children kind of make it.

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the front door, but somehow they have to go out

472
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through the back exit, which is a hole in the

473
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side of a sheer cliff.

474
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Speaker 4: We didn't need all that, you know, we didn't need

475
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,079
all that stuff, So I'm glad that they cut that

476
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,039
and the goonies too.

477
00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: Right.

478
00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: The other cut scene was where Willy, like she almost

479
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,079
makes it out and she comes in contact with the

480
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Prime Minister and she starts explaining how the things, you know,

481
00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:01,240
this is all all going on, and that's when we

482
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,039
realize that the Prime Minister is in on it with

483
00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:05,839
everybody else, and that's how she's back captive again.

484
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: But they just cut all that out.

485
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine, fine, Yeah, just streamline the action for

486
00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:12,240
us and let's have a good time.

487
00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Wise cuts.

488
00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:16,319
Speaker 4: Yes, Now, I will say that there's some ridiculousness that

489
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,240
made it in both movies that I want to talk

490
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,720
about with you, But I just kind of want to

491
00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,680
go down some of these scenes because I really want

492
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,000
your opinion. Let's flip back to Temple of Doom for

493
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,480
just a second.

494
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we're on Temple to Doom.

495
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 4: But okay, let's stay on.

496
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:34,799
Speaker 2: Now.

497
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 4: The opening scene, yes, where Harrison Ford in a tuxedo

498
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,279
looks like Sean Connery and Goldfinger and pose. Yes, it's

499
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:51,400
absolutely on purpose. And he's in Shanghai and he's there

500
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,079
to exchange the remains of Narachi, yes for the diamond.

501
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: Yes. Okay.

502
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 4: Now, then that diamond is called.

503
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,839
Speaker 2: The Peacocks I okay.

504
00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: Which is investigated further in one of the young Indiana

505
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,640
Jones chronicles that I've never seen.

506
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:12,079
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I haven't seen it.

507
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,039
Speaker 4: I can't speak to it, but apparently that does make

508
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,319
its way into other Indiana Jones entertainment.

509
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,319
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting this.

510
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,039
Speaker 3: I knew that Marvel had done some comic books with this.

511
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,200
They had done Raiders, and then they did with this

512
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,920
one as well, and one of the covers. I mean,

513
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,519
it's freaking awesome. I would love to have this comic book.

514
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,039
It looks like it could have been the movie poster,

515
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,000
it's so good.

516
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: But they did.

517
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: They've done some other Indiana Jones adventures that are were

518
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:40,440
never movies.

519
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: If you you know, hey fans, if you have that

520
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,079
comic book.

521
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: We would love to take a look and just know

522
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,119
what the storyline is, because I would, I mean further

523
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,759
Indiana Jones Adventures to count me in, right, yeah, one

524
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:51,359
hundred percent.

525
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: What did you think about the opening scene? The diamond,

526
00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:01,279
the lazy Susan, the crime boss, the ice, all that stuff.

527
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was unnecessary.

528
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,559
Speaker 3: I mean it just really all it is is how

529
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,200
we get in contact with you know, how Willie meets

530
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,160
up and gets tied up with Indy and that's it,

531
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,680
you know. And I don't know why, like George Lucas

532
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,680
wanted this big busby Berkeley style musical to intro the movie.

533
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,519
I don't know why, but I guess, I mean, I

534
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:27,640
guess those were the movies that they grew up with,

535
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:31,240
and I could totally I would pay homage to some other,

536
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,680
you know, director from the eighties if I was making

537
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,039
a movie, I would definitely do that.

538
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the song was fine and it

539
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:39,839
was just yeah.

540
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so let let's talk about that for a second.

541
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:45,920
I told you trivia question the other day. Okay, one

542
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,559
of the dancing girls, right, yeah, one of the dancing girls.

543
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,240
This is for deaf Dave and Jeff Johnson because they're

544
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:53,960
such big fans.

545
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody knows who she is.

546
00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:59,519
Speaker 4: She's number one on everybody's hit list right now. It's

547
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:00,400
Kathleen Kennedy.

548
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was a force to be reckoned with for

549
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,319
many years and did many great things. It's just that

550
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,000
everything seems to have fallen part now that she's head

551
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,519
of Disney.

552
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,079
Speaker 4: That's right. So Kathleen Kennedy is one of the dancing

553
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,319
girls in Anything Goes Opener.

554
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

555
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:20,839
Speaker 3: Side note on that Kate Capshaw had trained, because she's

556
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,920
not a dancer, had trained for weeks and weeks to

557
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,640
get the choreography right on this thing. And when they

558
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,319
gave her the dress, which was made from like real

559
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,119
jewels and gems and other stuff from the nineteen thirties,

560
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,400
it was so tight that she couldn't do any of

561
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,599
the choreography, which is why you don't see her dancing

562
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,920
around with the other girls.

563
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: Now.

564
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,519
Speaker 3: The other little known thing is this was the second

565
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,480
time the dress was used in the movie, even though

566
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,039
it was the first time you see it. It was

567
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:51,759
the second time they used it in filming. The first

568
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:54,680
time they used it in filming, it was hanging when

569
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,200
they were out in the wilderness with the elephant, and

570
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:01,640
you know, ultimately the snake it was hanging up to

571
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,720
be dried. Right Well, they didn't realize it, but the

572
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,759
elephant was eating these jewels and gems from the nineteen

573
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:13,720
thirties eight eight the back of the dress like significantly

574
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,920
to where you.

575
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,319
Speaker 2: Won't see it. You won't see it in the opening scene.

576
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Because they had to quick redo everything because it had

577
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,160
ruined the dress, and they had to do an insurance

578
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,559
claim on this, and some you know, some poor props

579
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,640
guy had to write on the insurance claim form elepant

580
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,640
by an elephant.

581
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,799
Speaker 4: I mean, what else do you say?

582
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

583
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to you about this because I

584
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:44,359
love this opening scene. Okay, I don't love anything goes

585
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,960
and the dancing girls. I could do without that. I

586
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,440
think it's I think that is Steven Spielberg just kind

587
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,799
of flexing his muscles a little bit. Yeah, and pay

588
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:55,440
you homage to some earlier stuff.

589
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: At that point, he had just said I always wanted

590
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,160
to do a musical number and this was a great opportunity.

591
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,119
Obviously he went on more recently direct West Side Story, Right, So.

592
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: But I love Indy and a tuxedo. Yes, I love

593
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,119
the lazy Susan. I think that it's tense right there. Yeah,

594
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,480
and you know, it's the diamond, it's the it's the

595
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:17,960
remains of Narachi, the antidote.

596
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drink, the drink.

597
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,799
Speaker 3: It's all very careful, like you can see the the

598
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:23,920
clockwork happening.

599
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: It's so and it's and then all of a sudden

600
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,000
boom out of out your left hand corner. It's Indy's

601
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,440
Chinese buddy who's got a gun and good service around here,

602
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:34,680
you know.

603
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what was his name, Wuhan, Wuhan, Wuhan, Yes,

604
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,200
wonder where he was from. I don't know that he

605
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,599
expired before the disease happened, I guess, But.

606
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: I do love the scene where India is on the

607
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,440
ground trying to get the antidote. Willie's looking for the diamond.

608
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,640
They spill the ice, and then all the while the

609
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,039
Chinese mob is trying to kill him with machine guns.

610
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,319
You got falling balloon, you got the dancing girls, and

611
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:06,960
then the rolling gong when he is, you know, hiding

612
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,119
behind the rolling gong. I thought all of that was

613
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:16,559
super exciting and very very raiders esque, you know, very

614
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,680
Indie worthy. Now, when they fall out of the window

615
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,400
and they land with short round, Indy is blasting his

616
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,119
gun and then he hands it to Willie who it's hot,

617
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,319
and she drops the gun that pissed me off in

618
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880
nineteen eighty four and it still bothers me. He goes

619
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,400
basically the entire movie without his gun, which was a

620
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,279
problem for me.

621
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so.

622
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: Now we have made mention that he does run into

623
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:49,079
dan Aykroyd, who guides him onto an airplane owned by Laucha.

624
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,960
Right now, we did find out why dan Ackroyd was

625
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,880
in this movie. It's because he was repaying the favor

626
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,240
where Steven Spielberg actually does a cameo in the Blues Brothers.

627
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:00,519
Speaker 2: How about that.

628
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like eating a sandwich, like the place is closed.

629
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: It says something like be back in five minutes.

630
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like trying to not let him in. I

631
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,880
can't remember what the emergency was, but they needed to

632
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,920
be in there, and he was just like a slow

633
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000
clerk at this place.

634
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Right.

635
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:20,799
Speaker 4: So, and he takes the airplane up and they're flying.

636
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,039
You're doing kind of the map thing again. Yes, we

637
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,240
know it's owned by the crime Lord Lauche the pilot's

638
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:31,599
bail out, and now our heroes are in trouble, and

639
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,720
so they inflate a air raft and use it like

640
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:38,920
a parachute and they fall and nobody gets hurt.

641
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm making this up as I go,

642
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,519
so you're not buying that.

643
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: I don't like that at all.

644
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,079
Speaker 3: So here's the thing I would really love to know,

645
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,079
because it's it's a continuous shot, like you see it

646
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:55,160
come out of the plane and you see the continuous

647
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,720
shot and literally, I'm not kidding. As we were watching this,

648
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:02,000
my kids said, can they really do that? And I'm like, well,

649
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,359
they didn't have CGI back then. Now, of course you

650
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,039
get some of those other scenes with like the guy's

651
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,599
heart getting taken out or the guys falling to their death,

652
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,920
you know, with the crocodiles. And then they're like, well

653
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720
was that CGI, dad? And I'm like, well, no, but

654
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,519
that was a green screen, so you know no. But

655
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,680
but I mean, if you watched that scene.

656
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: It really looks like they pulled it off. Like I

657
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,480
don't know how.

658
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how high up or how low more precisely,

659
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,559
the plane would have to be. But if you know

660
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,559
that you're going to land on relatively soft snow and

661
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,759
that the raft has some certain amount of wind resistance.

662
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:38,319
Speaker 2: I really you know you.

663
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: We talked on our last episode about the MIT guys

664
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,279
who had done the bridge cutting physics and how everybody

665
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,319
would have probably died when they hit the wall from

666
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:47,759
the swing.

667
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

668
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: I would approach those guys and go, Okay, guys, what

669
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,839
what about the what about the raft falling from the plane?

670
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: Would that work if you if you wanted to step

671
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,480
out this window right here, uh huh and jump out

672
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,000
with a raft?

673
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: See, it doesn't have enough time to inflate though.

674
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: Anyway.

675
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,039
Speaker 3: Okay, there is snow on the ground right now, so

676
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,160
it might work. But you also got the incline because

677
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,960
it's not like a hit and stop, it's a hit

678
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:11,559
and slide.

679
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,119
Speaker 4: Okay, it might work. I'm not buying it.

680
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was a good effect.

681
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,759
Speaker 4: Okay, So they drift into basically they land in the mountains,

682
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,440
and they land, they slide down a mountain and end

683
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:24,240
up in India.

684
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, there's some.

685
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: Geography questions here. So another scene I want to talk

686
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:35,400
to you about, Okay, the chilled monkey brains snake Surprise yes,

687
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,039
that whole thing. What do you think about that?

688
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,079
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it? Do you? Oh? Yeah, I absolutely

689
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:40,400
love it.

690
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean it was it grossed me out and

691
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,000
it's but I mean it's it's great comedy. It's probably

692
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,319
you know, maybe offensive to people who actually like good

693
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Indian food.

694
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,359
Speaker 2: And I love good Indian food. But I mean, really,

695
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:56,440
I mean, do they eat chilled monkey brains in India?

696
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,960
Do they eat living snakes? I don't think so, right,

697
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:02,079
But it's just kind of fun.

698
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean in some cultures, maybe not the

699
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,319
Indian culture, but they eat you know, I've seen Japanese

700
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,039
people eating octopus that it's still alive and like trying

701
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:15,160
to hold on as it's good getting swallowed. So it's

702
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,880
not that far off of something that could have happened

703
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,480
back in the nineteen thirties India.

704
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bugs, STEVENS.

705
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,519
Speaker 4: Bilberg said, inside those rubber bugs. Yeah, it was custard. Yeah,

706
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:32,319
so no big deal for people to write slurp the custard.

707
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:35,079
That scene was used in place of a like a

708
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,920
tiger hunt thing that they had planned.

709
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: Okay, good call on that one, you think so, yeah,

710
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,319
Because like I think people would have been a I mean,

711
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,119
even in the nineteen eighties there was a big cruelty

712
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,519
to animals thing going on. I don't think anybody would

713
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,599
have been behind a let's have the hero hunt a tiger.

714
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:52,079
Speaker 2: I think.

715
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: The other great part about the dinner scene is the

716
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,799
reaction of Willie and Short Round. I mean, I thought

717
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:05,039
it was comedy. It give me your hat, yeah, right,

718
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,000
and he drops the piece of candy out of his

719
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:09,639
mouth as he's watching what's going on?

720
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was I thought it was funny.

721
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: Actually, there's another scene or another conversation at that dinner

722
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,559
table where there Indy insults the Prime Minister and he's like,

723
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,880
weren't you in trouble for grave robbing doctor Jones? And

724
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,599
he's like, I seem to remember them cutting off your hands,

725
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,280
possibly as a punishment. He's like, no, no, it wasn't

726
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,039
It wasn't my hands.

727
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: Right, it was, and miss it was my misunderstand.

728
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,159
Speaker 4: That was funny as well, Right, So that scene I

729
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,760
think I think had some merit.

730
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

731
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,199
Speaker 4: What about when Willie and Indie and Short Round and

732
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,599
they go back and they find the hidden cavern in

733
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:52,639
her bedroom?

734
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,639
Speaker 2: Yes, which hands on the boots I'm right here.

735
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,079
Speaker 4: Which I wanted to just bring this up real quick

736
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,760
before we move on to that Indy was about to

737
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,559
have Willy Scott Nine Ways to Sunday. Yes, I'm not

738
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:11,440
so sure that Willie Scott is not underappreciated as an

739
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,119
indie girl. Okay, I'm I'm not so sure that Marian.

740
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,199
Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg appreciated her exactly.

741
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,519
Speaker 4: Everybody I talked to always puts Marian in the number

742
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:22,960
one spot.

743
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not so sure.

744
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:30,119
Speaker 3: Willie, Well, Marian was tough and girl next door. Willie

745
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,519
is a high maintenance screamer and you know true damsel

746
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,639
in distress, and Elsa is a Nazi sympathizer. So it's

747
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,559
you know, it sounds like Marian wins.

748
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,079
Speaker 4: Marian also has alcohol problems.

749
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: Well, you called the problems and.

750
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,519
Speaker 4: Domestic violence problems. What do you think about the scene.

751
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:54,960
What do you think about the scene where Indian short

752
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,400
round get trapped into this room where spikes and the

753
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,679
ceilings lowering, their going to get crushed and stabbed. Yes,

754
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360
and Willie's got to make her way through these bugs

755
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:08,599
to release them, and the whole time they're going let

756
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:08,920
us out.

757
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: She's like us fantastic filmmaking. I loved it.

758
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: It's a good scene.

759
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah, the tension that's building, the comedy.

760
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: We are going to die, the spike going through his hat,

761
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,400
and then the beauty is once she gets in, she

762
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:30,079
sets off the trap herself. Now I was watching this

763
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:31,920
is a this is an interesting thing that happened a

764
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,599
month or two ago. I was down visiting my brother

765
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,599
and he's like, you know, best intro scene in a

766
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,760
movie and he gives I don't remember which the movie,

767
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,800
what movie he gives me, but I was like, okay,

768
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,039
probably number one. Number one is Dark Knight, the bank

769
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:54,280
robbery scene. I would say, probably the best opening scene.

770
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,880
And then I said my number two has to be

771
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:01,920
Raiders of Lost Dark fantastic opening scene, right. And as

772
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,199
we're watching it's he's like, I can remember watching this

773
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,320
with mom in the theater and he has to grab

774
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,119
his hat at the last minute, and it's not his.

775
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: Hat, it's his whip. It's his whip. Right.

776
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,159
Speaker 3: Well, then fast forward a few weeks I'm watching Temple

777
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,920
of Doom. That scene happens where she sets off the

778
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,360
trap again. They have to dive under the closing door

779
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:26,079
before they actually do get.

780
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: Spiked, and it's his hat that time. Love it, Yeah,

781
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,760
I love it.

782
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,159
Speaker 4: That seems great. And in fact, the look on his

783
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,840
face when she finally releases the lever, he is so

784
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,960
pissed at her, and then he doesn't even have time

785
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,320
to address it before she sets off the trap again.

786
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Exactly by the way Kate Capshaw had to take valume

787
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,880
when they covered her with all of these bugs.

788
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,599
Speaker 2: That was legit.

789
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,639
Speaker 4: They covered her with tons of bugs.

790
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: Well, she kind of did that scene because she had

791
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,760
refused to do a similar snake type scene where she

792
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,320
was covered with snakes. She was like, I guess I

793
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,559
didn't really read the sides on the script or whatever.

794
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,199
I wasn't looking closely, but she couldn't handle the snakes.

795
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,119
And then I like that scene where the elephant keeps

796
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,360
bothering her as they're kind of camped out and with

797
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,840
the trunk, and then she grabs that.

798
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,159
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a real snake.

799
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,159
Speaker 3: She grabs that thing and flings it, and I was like, dang, girl,

800
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,239
I wouldn't have guessed you scared of snakes.

801
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: But she did a heck of a job with it.

802
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,119
Was good.

803
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: It was good. All right, let's talk about the human

804
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,800
sacrifice Slash Black death thing. Okay, Yes, how's that scene

805
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,559
work for you? As far as the reaching in pulling

806
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,159
out the heart, the heart's on fire and the guy

807
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,440
is still alive.

808
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,679
Speaker 3: All that stuff iconic, very memorable, scary, I mean a

809
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,000
little bit I was. I don't remember being like terrified

810
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:45,440
at that, Okay, I just kind of think it.

811
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: Thought it was cool, I guess. Yeah, when I was

812
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,920
nine ten years old.

813
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 4: I liked the effect of when he pulls the heart

814
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,880
out it catches fire. Yes, I thought that was like,

815
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,800
this guy is next to Dartha. This guy is as

816
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,559
scary as they come.

817
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,519
Speaker 3: Oh dude, great bad was awesome? Okay, So that actually

818
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:08,880
brings me to something. I'm gonna interrupt your scene comparison

819
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,320
and I'm gonna grab my phone because I found something

820
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,519
that that you're gonna love. Ok Okay, okay, So disclaimer,

821
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,079
this is off of a Reddit page, so somebody could

822
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,239
completely be making this up. But what I read it,

823
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,039
it does seems to be accurate.

824
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Okay. In the sacrifice scene, right agar KHOI hi to

825
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,840
mehu bacho if anyone's there, save me? Oh okay, okay.

826
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:41,639
Speaker 3: And he's like kum kumah hey bacho, somebody somebody saved me.

827
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:47,599
And then he starts chanting, I'm na shivah yah, I'm

828
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,360
not sivaya, I'm not siva ya.

829
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:55,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is shiva hin. Do God protect me? Right?

830
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 4: Yes?

831
00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: Then Mola Ram is saying bi out ou gay you

832
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:09,199
will be sacrificed. Then he says Bali mangti kalim that

833
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,920
is mother Kali desire, desires, an offering, and then mukti

834
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:21,840
diggi khalima, mother Kali will bring salvation Kalima, mother Kali.

835
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,480
And then he repeats it, you know, three times. And

836
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,360
when he's holding up this, when he's holding up the heart,

837
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:34,159
he says, Bali chadu traga, I offer this sacrifice before you,

838
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,480
and he says abiski John Mary Muti man hi. Now

839
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:43,760
his life is in my hands. Okay, it's all of

840
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,039
that scene, right, But what I wanted to bring to

841
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,760
you was the question that you posed in our last episode. Yes,

842
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,559
that your Chinese friends did not know what they were speaking, right,

843
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,239
That's what was the reason that they gave.

844
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,199
Speaker 2: They either spoke Mandarin or Cantonese and they suspected that

845
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:06,840
that was in the other language, whatever it was.

846
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,599
Speaker 3: Right, So what's interesting on this note, because we know

847
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:15,039
that what Indy says to short Round is Choo chi

848
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:21,280
la tousn right, Yes, that's right. And in the parentheses

849
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,840
on this translation it goes Mandarin and Cantonese. So maybe

850
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:32,119
it's like this mixture. Uh so Chao they think is

851
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:36,559
Shorty's real name. That's the first word, Choo is Shorty's

852
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:41,920
real name. And then she allows Hoo's son hold on

853
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:43,280
tell her.

854
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go.

855
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Okay, very good. I will tell you I

856
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,159
talked to another Chinese guy at my church because I

857
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:54,079
played it for him as well. Yeah, okay, this is

858
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,360
the past Sunday and he said, you know how when

859
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,400
Chinese people speak English, they can't really I can't really

860
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,199
understand them. Yes, because it works both ways.

861
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense? That makes sense? Yes, okay.

862
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 4: Finally, the last scene I want to bring to your

863
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,360
attention is the mine cart scene. How do you feel

864
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,039
about that scene? The mine cart into the bridge?

865
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

866
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,599
Speaker 2: I love it.

867
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't make any sense, it's ridiculous, that

868
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,960
defies the law of physics. But for a nineteen eighty

869
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,079
five movie when I'm ten years old, it's thrill ride.

870
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,159
Speaker 4: Absolutely love yeah, it's like a roller coaster in the

871
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:25,920
middle of the movie. Yeah.

872
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

873
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, Ben Burt, who did the sound

874
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,840
on this, he got the sound from a roller coaster

875
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,840
at Disneyland.

876
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 4: Oh beautiful.

877
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it.

878
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:39,119
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so that's Teblo doom. Yes, let's flip over

879
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:40,599
to Goonies. I want to talk about some scenes and

880
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:41,880
Goonies with you, okay.

881
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:42,039
Speaker 2: Real quick.

882
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in the middle of this thing. We're in

883
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:45,400
the middle of the episode and we have not yet

884
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,360
mentioned this. I mean Indiana Jones. We've got five movies, right,

885
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:55,639
five and Goonies, which I mean a fantastic treasure Hunt

886
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,599
movie that everybody loved, did really well.

887
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: No sequels.

888
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: Or is that?

889
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 3: Until now, within this last week, they have made an

890
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:11,880
official announcement that there will be a Goonies sequel. Now

891
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,360
I've heard, you know, I've heard Chris Columbus talk about

892
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,119
this many times, like I would want to be a

893
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:21,119
part of it because these are my babies. And obviously

894
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,480
he knows what he's doing, he knows how to write kids.

895
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,280
But how do you how do you make a movie?

896
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,239
I mean, those guys are now in their.

897
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: Fifties, right, right, yeah, for sure.

898
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:34,079
Speaker 3: And so how do you make a movie with those

899
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:37,920
fifty year old guys that also appeals to the kids, Like,

900
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,800
how does how does that all work out? I don't know,

901
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,920
but I'm excited. I'm excited for the possibilities.

902
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 4: I will tell you this. I was super excited when

903
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,320
you sent that to him. I'm like, oh, yes, finally

904
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,840
Goony sequel. That's fantastic.

905
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I see stuff pup on my phone all

906
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,559
the time and I'm like, yeah, okay, We've been hearing

907
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:57,199
that for years, but.

908
00:43:57,159 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: This was like on it, like official. It was like,

909
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:00,519
good morning America.

910
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been just just to temper our expectations. You

911
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:08,199
and I have discussed the possibility of Danny Glover and

912
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:10,840
Mel Gibson making another lethal weapon movie.

913
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and Dick Donner was on board with

914
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,880
that until he just passed away a couple of years ago.

915
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 4: And we just released our Young Guns Versus Tombstone.

916
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: Oh right, and we talked about in there that hey,

917
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,920
there was going to be it was supposed to be

918
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,639
the next year.

919
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: And that was like three years ago, right, so you

920
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:26,880
never know.

921
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, a couple of scenes I want to talk

922
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,599
to you about in The Goonies. Ok yeah, look, how's that?

923
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,159
Speaker 2: How's that?

924
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: Oh?

925
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: You idiot?

926
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,039
Speaker 4: Up down?

927
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,159
Speaker 2: If God meant to do it that way, it'll be

928
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:39,880
pissing in your faces.

929
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: Obviously we talked about the truffle shuffle. I think Jeff

930
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,199
Cohen was embarrassed to do that. They cleared the set

931
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,519
for him, and it is literally the most iconic scene

932
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:52,480
it is.

933
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: It is very iconic, which it's kind of funny to me.

934
00:44:56,119 --> 00:45:01,000
I mean, they clear the set for when frequently when

935
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,039
women or men have to get naked in a movie, right,

936
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,079
but you're capturing that moment on film for thousands and

937
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,679
thousands of people to watch. Does it really matter if

938
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,960
the guy holding the boomstick is still there?

939
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean really not really?

940
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:17,599
Speaker 1: No.

941
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: Okay, By the way, I just had a thought. It

942
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,920
has been said and I've read and I've heard, and

943
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,880
I agree with the fact that The Goonies is essentially

944
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,159
a Raiders type adventure for children.

945
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,639
Speaker 2: Yes, right, Yeah?

946
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,679
Speaker 4: Would it be fair to say that both of these

947
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:41,079
movies the heroes are after Willie's treasure? Oh?

948
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: What very funny.

949
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:50,599
Speaker 4: Anyway, Okay, I did want to mention I came across

950
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:53,000
a cool little trivia nugget on when they find the

951
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:56,920
body of Chester copper Pot. Yeah, okay, they find the

952
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,840
key which allows them to continue on their adventure at

953
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,519
some later point, righty, I.

954
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:06,199
Speaker 3: Mean this is this is so much the first scene

955
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,360
of Raiders of the Lost Dark, where you've got all

956
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,920
of these booby traps, booty traps, booty traps.

957
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,039
Speaker 4: What I said, I said it booby hey booty trap.

958
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chester Copper Pot has been crushed by a rock.

959
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,719
I don't remember who they were, who the first guy

960
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,119
into the cave was, but obviously he had the spikes

961
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000
go through him, right, verifying scene.

962
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: Forestal, Yes, yes, But when Mikey is looking through his wallet, yeah,

963
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,039
he comes across his driver's license, which says Chester Copper Pot.

964
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:36,280
But he also pulls out a baseball card.

965
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:37,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

966
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,079
Speaker 4: That baseball card is a Lugarrett card worth two hundred

967
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:41,800
and seventy five thousand dollars.

968
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: Right now, we're back in eighty five.

969
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: Well, I think right now that card would be worth

970
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,639
two hundred and seventy five.

971
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: Thous Okay, and what happens to the baseball card?

972
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 4: I wonder if that was enough to save the goon

973
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,159
docs right at that moment, you know.

974
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: If a handful of little jewels was enough. Yeah, okay,

975
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:01,920
So for me.

976
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: The Goonies is awesome. I think there's real menace, there's

977
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,280
real danger. The fertilities are silly, but they're capable of

978
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:10,880
killing them.

979
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,199
Speaker 1: Sure.

980
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have an actual dead guy at

981
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,079
the beginning to let you know these guys are not

982
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:18,920
just a bunch of buffoons. They do actually kill people, right.

983
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,159
Speaker 4: One eyed Willie spend a lot of time setting up

984
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,960
bone organs and.

985
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,679
Speaker 2: Booby traps where he has his jewels, and then manages

986
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,280
to go sit down at the table with all of

987
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:30,840
his buddies.

988
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the story is is that he killed

989
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:37,400
all of them except for one of them, who is

990
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,840
skaed away. He's the one that brought the story to

991
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239
everybody else, right right. And then, of course you have

992
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,840
the treasure Map, which just happens to be in the

993
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,519
Goonies attic.

994
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:49,199
Speaker 2: I know, you know, whatever rich stuff, you gotta put

995
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:56,599
it somewhere. Hey, come home, give me a kissed. But

996
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,280
did you know that Sean Aston got to keep the

997
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,800
treasure map?

998
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 4: Did hear this?

999
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,639
Speaker 3: And Patty Duke, his mother, thought it was just a

1000
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,159
random piece of track paper and threw it away. No,

1001
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,440
even if your mom is a famous actress, she's still

1002
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:12,960
a mom.

1003
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,079
Speaker 4: I think everybody's mom has thrown away something valuable to

1004
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:17,280
them at some point in their life.

1005
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: You threw away my Luke Garrett cart.

1006
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,679
Speaker 4: That's a huge valuable movie prop that has gone because

1007
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:25,599
she thought it was nothing.

1008
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: Right, speaking of movie props, the ship they offered it up,

1009
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,400
nobody took it.

1010
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 4: This crushes me to here. Yes, they could not give

1011
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:33,880
it away.

1012
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: To anybody I know.

1013
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: Like, I guess they had some riggings on there, like

1014
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,559
just small parts that they used in the Pirates of

1015
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:43,800
the Caribbean ride at Disneyland. Full circle there, right, But.

1016
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that amazing ship and it's gone crazy.

1017
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I've got some That's all I really wanted to speak.

1018
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,519
Speaker 2: I got some trivia for you now, okay.

1019
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 4: All right, so I got some trivia for you on

1020
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,480
the Goony So let's start there.

1021
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Okay, do you.

1022
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,079
Speaker 4: Know who visited the set of the Goonies?

1023
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh, I knew this, but I can't remember.

1024
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: Tell me, Okay, So number one Harrison Ford visited the set.

1025
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic y. Yeah, And in.

1026
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 4: Fact, he brought an Indiana Jones hat that Robert Dovey

1027
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,760
wears the entire movie o his hat.

1028
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, yeah, no, I could see that rights sense.

1029
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So think about this movie in nineteen eighty four,

1030
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:28,480
who would you most want to see on your set?

1031
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:29,800
I mean, Harrison Ford's.

1032
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: Up that little for sure up there. Yeah, but maybe

1033
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,840
number one Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson came to the Jackson

1034
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,800
visited the Goony set. Wow, Okay, yes, And of course

1035
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,159
he and Corey Feldman developed a relationship, right. They ended

1036
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:51,599
up getting tickets to the Victory Tour, which was a

1037
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,719
hugely hot ticket. Right.

1038
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: Sure, they all went and saw Michael Jackson at Dodger Stadium,

1039
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,920
and I remember at the time they were like they

1040
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,360
looked around and they're like, our seats were better than

1041
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,679
Ricky Schroeder's.

1042
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: Silver Spoon's reference there. That's great.

1043
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 4: Yes, But here's the nugget that really found heartwarming that

1044
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,840
I wanted to talk to you about.

1045
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

1046
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,079
Speaker 4: So, Patty Duke John Aston were going through a divorce

1047
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,400
at the time that the movie was released, and they're

1048
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,320
watching their son on the screen in his big theater debut,

1049
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,639
even though they were getting divorced, they held hands and

1050
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:36,079
cried throughout the entire movie. They knew that he had

1051
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,480
attached himself to an absolute home run.

1052
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does a great job.

1053
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: He does a great job.

1054
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:46,159
Speaker 3: Every I mean every other character in the movie, and

1055
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:51,320
maybe appropriately so is overacting their part a little bit, right. Sure,

1056
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,519
Junk is overacting the fat kid, but it makes it

1057
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:57,639
a little bit funnier. And Data is over acting the

1058
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:01,679
nerdy Chinese inventor, but it makes it funny. Yes, mouth

1059
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:07,320
same thing. But Sean Aston plays it real and straight

1060
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,719
and heartfelt.

1061
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: And it's absolutely.

1062
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:14,119
Speaker 3: What his character as the every man or every kid

1063
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:19,719
character needed, because and I say every kid, what kid?

1064
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,559
I mean since Pirates existed, what kid has not secretly

1065
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:28,599
dreamed of finding a pirate treasure map.

1066
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,679
Speaker 2: Where X marks the spot. That's so great, man X never.

1067
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 4: Marks the spot, as we know from Indiana Jones. Right

1068
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,360
by the way, that's Richard Donner on like the four

1069
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,320
wheeler that pulls up at the very end that like

1070
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,000
finds the kids. Ok there's a little cameo there.

1071
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,599
Speaker 2: Nice.

1072
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I got just a couple of tidbits

1073
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,440
for you on Raiders of lost Ark. Okay, just a

1074
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,639
couple of tidbits for you on Indiana Jones and the

1075
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:55,480
Temple of Dim Okay. Okay, so originally it was called

1076
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:59,039
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Death. For whatever reason,

1077
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,599
they changed it to Indiana a Little Dark in the

1078
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,320
Temple of Doom. Right now, then, do you know who

1079
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,760
made an appearance on set at Indiana Jones and the

1080
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,559
Temple of Doom.

1081
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:11,679
Speaker 2: Corey Felpon.

1082
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,159
Speaker 4: No, that's a good guess though, Okay.

1083
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Carrie Fisher Okay, who is, of course Princess among many

1084
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:22,880
other things.

1085
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,639
Speaker 4: But yes, and of course she and Harrison Ford had

1086
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:30,400
a off screen trist romance. Yes, yes, on screen as well,

1087
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,960
but off screen. Right, But on that day that she

1088
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:36,719
visited the set, it was when he was being punished.

1089
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,760
He was being whipped, right, So he's chained up and

1090
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,239
they lead in Barbara streisand give her a whip, and

1091
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,599
of course Harrison Ford is tied up and she's whipping him, going,

1092
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,840
that's for Star Wars, that's for Hanover Street.

1093
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:53,639
Speaker 3: What.

1094
00:52:53,960 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: Yes, Barbara Streis, Yes, it's random. Yeah, you can see it,

1095
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,920
go look it up on YouTube.

1096
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: Speaking of Carrie Fisher, yeah, she's the end of the

1097
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Blues Brothers. By the way, Yes, you usually I forget

1098
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,880
that part, right, but I did until you just said it.

1099
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,639
I was like, oh, yeah, well there you go. Spielberg,

1100
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:31,159
I don't know if he knew her from, probably from Star.

1101
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,559
Speaker 4: Wars, but Streisand is whipping him and Carrie Fisher like

1102
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,800
stands in the way. He's like, no, please, don't go.

1103
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1104
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 4: So kind of a goofy little thing there. And then

1105
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,480
finally just a little heartwarming tidbit from Indian Jones and

1106
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:48,440
the template doom. Yeah, while they were staying at their

1107
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,199
hotel in Sri Lanka, h Harrison Ford taught Key Hugh

1108
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,119
Quon how to swim.

1109
00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:58,119
Speaker 3: Oh cool, taught him out a swim. You sent me

1110
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:04,880
a video of Key Kikwan. On the other Drew Drew

1111
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Barrymore Drew Barrymore show, and now they I mean she

1112
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:15,280
had she had just finished et when they started doing Goonies, right,

1113
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:19,079
and so there were awards being given out that they

1114
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:22,440
were both part of the ceremonies on okay, and so

1115
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,519
they hung out, like Steven Spielberg introduced them, and not

1116
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:29,840
only did they hang out at the awards show, but

1117
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,679
like they went to the zoo together like little kids do,

1118
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,719
and he on the show, confessed to her that he

1119
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,239
had this huge crush on her or whenever, and then.

1120
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: She was like, I also had a crush on yeah.

1121
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's sweet. That's a lot of fun.

1122
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Okay.

1123
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 3: So one thing I want to mention, yes, okay, uh.

1124
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:58,280
For the Goonies, this was the first appearance of wes

1125
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:03,639
take Hashi as the animation supervisor. He was with ILM,

1126
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:06,679
of course, but he's the animation supervisor for the Goonies,

1127
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,880
so there's a lot of special effects that required animation.

1128
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,599
He goes on to be the head supervisor at ILM

1129
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:17,480
of all Animation later on, but and he's a guy

1130
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,400
who's done a lot of effects. But one of the

1131
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,880
one of the ones that struck me was he was

1132
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,480
the one responsible for the animation effect for the DeLorean

1133
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:29,880
when it would go back in time, which I was like, dude,

1134
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,239
that is a fantastic effect, right yeah, because I mean,

1135
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,320
you get I don't not even ever really thought about it,

1136
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,480
but all that stuff that shoots out and blast in

1137
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:40,000
front of the Dolorean, that's all just animation. Yeah, right,

1138
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,239
nineteen eighty five, We're not doing that with computers, and

1139
00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:47,239
so that brings me to another point back in the future.

1140
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:51,519
Nineteen eighty five poster by Drew Stusan.

1141
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,039
Speaker 4: I love Drew Strusan.

1142
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: Also he did the Goonies, Yes he did. Also he

1143
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,000
did Temple of Doom.

1144
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: Yes he did. You know what else he did in

1145
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:03,800
nineteen eighty five?

1146
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:05,599
Speaker 2: No, what else did he do?

1147
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 4: And Drew Strewsan did the poster for Better Off Dead,

1148
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,239
Oh my gosh, which we'll be talking about here in

1149
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:12,800
just a few weeks.

1150
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,159
Speaker 2: Yes, Better Off Dead versus one crazy Summer.

1151
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun.

1152
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,639
Speaker 3: Steve Savage Holland's John Cusack Savage.

1153
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: Steve Savage. Steve Holland is his first name. Seven.

1154
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: Oh no, now I know the story on this. Yes,

1155
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:27,239
tune in for the episode and I will tell you

1156
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,440
how Steve Holland got the nickname Savage. It is going

1157
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,639
to be something we're tuning in for.

1158
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:33,159
Speaker 2: Our promise.

1159
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 4: Everybody wants some trust me?

1160
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: Great?

1161
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,519
Speaker 4: Okay, So one more yep, one more thing, yes.

1162
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: Since we've we made this the ki Kwan double feature. Yes, right,

1163
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,039
I got one more trivia bit for Kikwan.

1164
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 4: Okay.

1165
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 3: Before filming the movie Goonies, his mother made him promise

1166
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,360
that he would not use any bad language, which is

1167
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,480
why in the cave scene with the falling rocks he

1168
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:03,519
screeneds ho s h, I d.

1169
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: Oh, that's it's so sweet. I mean, it's just such

1170
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,760
a good movie.

1171
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: You know, he as a real human being seems to

1172
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:18,719
just be that lovable kittie character even in his fifties.

1173
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,719
Speaker 2: Now. I love his comeback story. It's amazing, it really is.

1174
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,360
I still haven't seen Love Hurts, which just came out.

1175
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,760
It's not getting Will Rolle really well rated, but I

1176
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don't know.

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Speaker 3: It looked like a good action flick to me. I'd

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love to see him doing you know, his taekwondo work

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on screen and his fight choreography that he was specialized

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in for twenty years. But I'm really excited about the

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movie that's with Chris Pratt and Woody Harrelson and Millie

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Bobby Brown.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see Data and Goonies two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that'd be Yeah, that'll be great. Okay, Okay,

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are we to Final.

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Speaker 4: Judgement to Final Judgment? Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: This is tough. You go first.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So here's the thing. I love both of these movies.

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I grew up with both of these movies. I am

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a staunch defender of both of these movies.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: When I watched Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom again,

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there's a lot of lulls in it. For me, I

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00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:26,559
do think maybe this representation of Indiana Jones is my favorite.

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He's so tough in this. He's bulked up and he's

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I mean, just really tough guy. You know, we don't

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see him cowering from snakes or anything like that. Just

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everything he does is just super on point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, I guess he does cower from a snake

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00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:50,400
that Willy throws at his feet once, but this is not.

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Speaker 4: My favorite adventure of his.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's fair to say both Raiders and

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Last Crusade are better.

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Speaker 4: Than this movie. Okay, Okay, I watch Goonies. I laugh

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and enjoy that movie despite its silliness the entire way through.

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And I showed this.

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Speaker 2: To my daughter and it absolutely killed me. She thought

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00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:19,320
it was amazing. Yeah, and with that said, I have

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to say I think Goonies is the better. Okay, it

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is interesting. It's interesting that you say that.

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Speaker 4: And especially me being a huge Indiana Jones guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the reason that we compared Back to

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00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:34,920
the Future to Raiders of the Lost Ark was because

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Raiders of the Lost Dark is your favorite movie from

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the eighties, and Back to the Future is my favorite

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,199
movie from the eighties, That's right, And so to hear

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,400
have you put it second to Goonies is surprising to me.

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I actually thought we were going to be on the

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00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,199
same page in this one, but obviously we're not. Oh interesting, Okay,

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,960
So I agree. I defend both of these movies wholeheartedly.

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They were both a major part of my growing up experience.

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I got all the nostalgia for both of them, and

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I was excited to rewatch both of them. We have

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01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,920
been talking about doing Indiana Jones and The Temple of

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01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,480
Doom for several years, and I was I had always

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01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,199
pushed the let's compare it to Superman three, as you know,

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,000
the worst of the trilogy, right right, and I had

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,239
always kind of had it in that mind my mind.

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As you know, Raiders and Last Crusade are neck and neck,

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and Temple of Doom is a distant third. When I

1231
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,599
rewatched the Goonies, it still had all the nostalgia, but

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01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:37,800
like I said, the kids were really like over the

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01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,039
top in their acting, and it was kind of like, Okay,

1234
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:43,119
you guys are hamming it up, just maybe a bit

1235
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,639
too much, and some of the absurd.

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01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:50,199
Speaker 2: Scenes that we've already talked about. I was just like, okay,

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01:00:50,239 --> 01:00:51,280
this is it.

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 4: Just to me, the Pirate Waterflat, Yeah.

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: It did not age quite as well.

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01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:59,119
Speaker 3: Okay, But when I went back Temple of Doom, and

1241
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:02,320
maybe it was because I had lower expectations, I was like, oh,

1242
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,519
I forgot that, you know, Fortune and Glory was this movie, right,

1243
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,360
I mean, that's the that's a huge line, and that

1244
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,760
was Temple of Doom. And so I'm looking at that

1245
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,840
intro scene and I'm like, ah, this is a bunch

1246
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,559
of fun with a very James Bond esque style going on.

1247
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:21,480
And then we go into these and again it's got

1248
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:24,400
some it's got some stretches as far as you know

1249
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,599
what can happen. But to me, it was more intense,

1250
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:30,440
it was a little darker. It was kind of the

1251
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,960
Empire strikes back to Raiders of the Lost Art, right,

1252
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:38,280
and the darkness intrigued me.

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01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: More In this one.

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't I didn't feel like people were hamming up

1255
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,320
maybe Cape Capshaw a bit, but but for the most part.

1256
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,880
I felt like there was a genuine delivery and the

1257
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,880
adventure ride was just as good, just as good, if

1258
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,079
not better than the other two in the trilogy. Yeah okay,

1259
01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:58,440
And so for that reason I got to say Temple

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,119
of Doom wins the.

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01:01:59,159 --> 01:01:59,519
Speaker 2: Day for me.

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01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:01,239
Speaker 4: Wo okay, love it.

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: I love it.

1264
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: I don't accept the idea that Temple of Doom is

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,239
this cousin that we need to forget about.

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,199
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean that's that's how Spielberg and Lucas treated,

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01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:10,519
and I think it's unfair.

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01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think it's good.

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01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: And maybe it was because that was a dark period

1272
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,360
of their lives and maybe that the memory is associated

1273
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,119
with it. But to me, I was I was duly impressed.

1274
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,440
Definitely worth coming back to again.

1275
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: That just goes to show that when you do this podcast,

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01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,440
that anything goes.

1277
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,599
Speaker 3: Okay, Guys, tell us what you think right in too.

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01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,480
You can catch us on X at Shirley podcast on

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01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:41,000
Facebook at Shirley Podcasts. You can email us directly. Just

1280
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:42,920
be warned that a lot of times when people email

1281
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,480
us directly, they become co hosts with us, But that

1282
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:47,679
also kind of means they become our best friends, Like

1283
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,920
we've you've had hang out. We we have done big

1284
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:54,760
fun hangouts with guys that we all met through this

1285
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,039
podcast in areas all over the country, and it's just

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,519
crazy because they're like our new best friend that we've

1287
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:01,360
known our whole lives.

1288
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Speaker 2: So you, guys, tell us what you think. Who wins

1289
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,159
for you?

1290
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:08,679
Speaker 3: Goonies or Temple of Doom or is it remainsing the

1291
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:11,119
Stone that we almost compare to these or Jewel of

1292
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:16,480
the Nile not a favorite in Jason's book, But tell

1293
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:19,519
us what you think. And if you feel like helping

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01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,719
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01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,400
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01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,960
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01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:31,000
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Speaker 2: We will love that.

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Speaker 3: If you would comment on the page, that helps us

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Like I think our Patreon members say, I like these

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episodes better than your regular episodes most.

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Speaker 2: Of the time.

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Speaker 3: Come over there, and check it out a lot of fun.

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So go to patreon dot com slash Surely podcast and

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Speaker 4: You know, I know, right, that's cool.

1314
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1315
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,119
Speaker 4: The next week, Yeah, we are covering an album from

1316
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:22,320
nineteen eighty five, Okay that we both I think owned

1317
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:27,880
and enjoyed. Okay, Heart, Oh yeah, the Wilson Sisters. Yeah,

1318
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:31,840
back with a Vengeance after being dropped from their record label.

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01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:36,239
Speaker 3: Right, and we are comparing that to a Dire Straits album,

1320
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:41,159
Brothers in Arms, which I had never listened to all

1321
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:43,719
the way through until we decided to cover this album.

1322
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,119
Speaker 2: And I am excited to.

1323
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 3: Talk about that band and Heart in comparison to each other,

1324
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,960
those two two killer albums from.

1325
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:51,519
Speaker 2: That time period.

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01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:52,559
Speaker 4: Come back next

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Speaker 2: Week, check it out, see us then, thanks guys,