1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:06,599 Speaker 2: This is Larry Fleck from Indianapolis, Indiana, and I play 3 00:00:06,719 --> 00:00:11,839 golf at Winding River Golf Course. This is golf Smarter. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: Golf Smarter number four hundred and sixty seven published on 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,760 December sixteen, twenty fourteen. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,879 Speaker 4: Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,519 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 8 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:32,560 golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets old. Our 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,439 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,719 like this that are no longer available in any podcast 11 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:41,280 app to me. 12 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: If you look on TV or you go to a tournament, 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,960 you watch the pros and tour pros. Probably the biggest 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,520 difference between the professionals and the amateurs is their balance. 15 00:00:51,359 --> 00:00:54,759 And balance is what contains the energy so that you 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,679 can deliver it all into the golf ball so that 17 00:00:56,719 --> 00:01:01,840 the golf ball gets maximum distance and optimal accuracy. Balance 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,000 is critical to that when people are like lifting off 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,439 the ball, you know, swaying off the ball and lifting 20 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:10,760 up through it and falling back after they try to 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,280 muscle it and they recoil and it kicks them back 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,359 and their ball's not going. That's because they don't have 23 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:19,680 that musculature and that awareness and that ability to be 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,560 so balanced. And one of the most beautiful things about 25 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:25,480 the touring pros, male and female, is their balance. 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: Golf is a mental game. The return of our golf 27 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:34,480 sense Ay Jamie Zimron. 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: This is Golf. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golfers and golf professionals. 30 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: To help lower your score. 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,079 Speaker 4: It's worked for your host, Fred Green. 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,519 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast. 33 00:01:47,599 --> 00:01:48,879 Speaker 5: Jamie. 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Fred, it's been too long. I'm so happy 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,359 to be talking with you and your listeners. 36 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:55,799 Speaker 3: Yes, and we are glad to have you back. 37 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: I am shocked. 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,079 Speaker 3: I was looking through the spreadsheet on the show shows 39 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:04,840 and here we are at an episode four hundred and 40 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:08,680 sixty seven and you haven't been on since twenty eleven. 41 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:11,759 I'm shocked that the last episode was to eighty. 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,199 Speaker 5: Nine with you. 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: That is too long, absolutely, But to. 44 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:18,439 Speaker 3: Our members who are going back and listening, if you 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,039 miss Jamie in the past and you need some help 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,560 on your game, go back to episodes one, thirty three, two, 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,360 twenty five, to twenty six and to eighty nine and 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,520 you can hear previous conversations with Jamie. 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,199 Speaker 5: But don't go anywhere yet because now we're going to 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,639 start another one. How are you. What have you been 51 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:38,319 up to in the last three years? 52 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,159 Speaker 1: He's been doing a lot of Kei golf ki golfing, 54 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,919 and I've also been doing a lot of Kei business 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:53,560 trainings and working on peak performance with people in athletes, 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,520 lead athletes, ordinary folks, and business leaders, all kinds of people. 57 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:03,039 So been carrying the teachings far and wide, shall we say, 58 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:04,759 around the world, around the country and world. 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: That's amazing. Now let's go back and talk about kii. 60 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:10,759 Since it's been a long time and we're going to 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,840 be introducing you to a lot of people for the 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,159 first time, let's explain what ki golf is and how 63 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:21,080 it's transformed and evolved into ki business. 64 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: Very good. 65 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:25,599 Speaker 1: Well, Kii is made up of two characters or kanji 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,400 they call them in Japanese and Chinese. 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,039 Speaker 2: One is the first. One is Kei. 68 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's Chi and Chinese, and that simply means life energy. 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,360 It's something that's in every one of us. 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: It's what the world is made of. It's in us, 71 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:38,159 it's around us. 72 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:42,039 Speaker 1: And when we can become more masterful in using our energy. 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 We tend to be able to get it into golf 74 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:47,319 all better or whatever we're doing and make it fly. 75 00:03:47,919 --> 00:03:48,639 Speaker 2: So that's key. 76 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: And then you've got i ai, which actually means love, 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,719 and love is understood as in a practical way, harmony, unity, oneness, 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,319 when things are all synchronized, gelling working together. So KII 79 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:06,919 is this power of unified life energy, the key I way. 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,759 So it's a key way of hitting a golf ball, 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,639 it's the KEYI way of really doing anything well. 82 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: And your background is not just. 83 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's go into what your background is in regards 84 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:25,319 to golf and then we'll let it evolve into the 85 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,639 ikdo and everything else. 86 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: Let's give us more background there. 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, I started playing golf when I was seven years 88 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,199 old in Wisconsin because my parents started playing, and I 89 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,160 was really a natural. I just sort of, you know, 90 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:40,839 would swing the club and chase the ball and it 91 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,240 was all good. Was this is way back when when 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,040 there weren't all the great junior golf programs that exists today. 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,120 So I was kind of a natural, and I was 94 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,800 shooting in the eighties. I think by the time I 95 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,920 was ten, and my very first golf tournament I played. 96 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:56,759 I had just turned thirteen and it was the Wisconsin 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,959 State Junior Championship. It was a Green Bay, Oneida country Club, 98 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,959 and I went and you had to shoot a metal 99 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,639 round and then play match play. So I qualified for 100 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,000 the championship division. I made it to the semi finals, 101 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,279 and I remember I was three down with four to 102 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:14,920 go to the seventeen year old and I just made 103 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,399 three birdies in a bar and beat her. 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: Then we had a. 105 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:21,079 Speaker 1: Thirty six hole final and I beat the seventeen year 106 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,879 old to become the Wisconsin State Junior Champion, which I 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,319 went on to do a number of times. 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,399 Speaker 2: And then I played nationally. 109 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: My cohort is people well known people like Amy Alcott, 110 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,160 Hollis Stacey who are in the Hall of Fame now 111 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:38,800 LPJA Hall of Fame. And I was actually ranked in 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,720 the top ten nationally as a junior with them. 113 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: Wow. 114 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: So I had a stellar junior golf career. And this 115 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,959 was way again, way back when, and it was kind 116 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,160 of a choice. I got accepted to school at Stanford 117 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,319 University from. 118 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:54,959 Speaker 2: Wisconsin, California calling at. 119 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: California called well it was also Stanford or the tour 120 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,639 and at that time. It was just before Title nine 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,839 kicked in, which gave equal funding to girls athletics, and 122 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,040 so I didn't have a golf scholarship and I went 123 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,480 to Stanford hardly played golf. We didn't have a lot 124 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,199 of much of a golf team at the time, if 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,399 you can imagine, and yes, you know, it. 126 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: Was like Stanford Tour. 127 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,319 Speaker 1: I went to Stanford and didn't even have golf scholarship, 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,879 even though I was ranked nationally. 129 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: I'm curious about the conversation that you were having with 130 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:28,839 your folks about I'm thinking about going on the tour 131 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:30,240 but I was accepted to Stanford. 132 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:32,639 Speaker 5: What their response was to that. 133 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:34,879 Speaker 2: It wasn't a big conversation. 134 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: It was a short conversation, right. 135 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: Let me guess it was, no, you're going to Stanford exactly. 136 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, But in lieu of golf, what happened is to go. 137 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,439 Speaker 2: On with my background. 138 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: When I was sophomore junior year, I was just twenty 139 00:06:52,519 --> 00:06:56,079 twenty one years old, I started to practice iikedo, which 140 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:56,879 is a martial art. 141 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:57,759 Speaker 2: At Stanford. 142 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,759 Speaker 1: It was offered for a pe crew and a friend 143 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:01,680 told me about it. 144 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: And aikedo is KEII way. 145 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:08,759 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful martial art, which I really didn't appreciate 146 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,439 what I was really getting into at the time, but 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,560 I went to class and I instantly fell in love 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,639 with it. As it happened, it was quite the heyday 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 of aikdo at Stanford and in the Bay Area. At 150 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,120 that time, aikito was just coming into the States from Japan. 151 00:07:22,199 --> 00:07:25,480 It's a Japanese martial art and it's a transformative martial art. 152 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,079 It's known as the martial art of peace. It differs 153 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,040 from karate and kind of combat of arts in that. 154 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:35,639 Speaker 2: The idea is not I win, you lose. I'm okay, 155 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,000 you're not. 156 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: The idea is here's an attack, and how can we 157 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,160 move with it in such a way that we can 158 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:46,879 blend and harmonize, use that energy, go with the flow 159 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,319 to sort of simplify it, and then make some circular 160 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:55,319 movements that are able to neutralize the problem, take the 161 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,879 attacker down, but without having to hurt them. So I'm 162 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,800 okay and you're okay. It's got a win win kind 163 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,680 of philosophy, this harmonious resolution of conflict. 164 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: And the other part that is very. 165 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,839 Speaker 1: Directly applicable in the key way is to use our 166 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,560 life energy to use this internal breath, natural inborn power 167 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,759 that we have in our body, mind, emotion, spirit, rather 168 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,040 than just trying to use brute muscle force. 169 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: So is it like I'm okay, you're okay, but you'd 170 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,040 know that I just kicked your butt. 171 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true too. 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,399 Speaker 1: Well, and that's because there is a tremendous level of power. 173 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,279 Speaker 5: You're okay, I'm better. 174 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: In a certain way. I guess you could say that. Yeah. 175 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,919 Speaker 3: So then then after Stanford and now you're getting ikeito 176 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 and you're still playing golf after Stanford, did you, like, 177 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,320 was the tour still calling in the back of your 178 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,279 head or how did you get to teaching? 179 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, what happened is that's a good question. What happened is. 180 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: That I just got headlong one hundred thousand percent into 181 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Aikdo and I earned my first degree black belt, and 182 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 some women asked me to teach. I was barely twenty five, 183 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,720 but I opened my own Aikdo dojo or martial arts 184 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:25,120 school in San Francisco when I was just twenty five. 185 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,080 So I started teaching, and it was originally called the 186 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Women's Aikdo School of San Francisco. It evolved into the 187 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:36,679 Ikdo Art Center of San Francisco with programs for you know. 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Mixed men, women, kids. 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, I did my master's work in clinical psychology, 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,879 and I also studied a lot of bodywork, fitness anatomy, 191 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,679 so you know, massage, therapy, all this kind of stuff. 192 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,720 And I've always been involved in the mind body interaction 193 00:09:55,879 --> 00:09:59,240 and the mind body realm so and then I went 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:05,960 on to become fair involved in both creating and instructing 195 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:11,000 at National Women's Martial Arts Federation, Pacific Association of Women 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Martial Artists. I co founded the Association of Women Martial 197 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,559 Arts Instructors many things, and have taught very much in 198 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,440 the aikido world. 199 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,039 Speaker 2: We introduced Aikdo. 200 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: To the Soviet Union in nineteen eighty seven when Garbacheff 201 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,159 came in, and I started teaching. 202 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: In the Middle East in the early nineties, and I've been. 203 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,519 Speaker 1: Using aikto as a vehicle, Ikto training a vehicle to 204 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:37,159 get Palestinians and Israelis, Arabs and Jews together in the 205 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:37,720 Middle East. 206 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: It's really powerful stuff. 207 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: So you know, I've been so kind of like age 208 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:48,440 twenty to forty without telling hold I am. I wasn't 209 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,360 golfing a whole lot except when I would see my 210 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,039 parents and I would always go out and shoo in 211 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:54,440 the seventies, even without playing, and I noticed that I 212 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,639 was actually improving at golf from doing so much aikdo 213 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,799 and body mind psychology, fitness mastery stuff. 214 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,039 Speaker 3: How sure you weren't doing better at golf because you 215 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,440 were away from it and you weren't really invested. I mean, 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,480 I know that if I take a couple of weeks off, 217 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,360 I get nervous, like, oh boy, I better just keep 218 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,600 my expectations low and I'll, you know, and then just 219 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,360 I have a great round, you know. You know, when 220 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,919 I don't have any pressure on myself too, I got 221 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:28,519 to do better because I'm playing so often. And then 222 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,399 then you know, but then when you're away from it, 223 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,879 you come back, it's like, oh, whatever happens is great, and. 224 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,879 Speaker 2: You yeah, well you know it. 225 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:37,159 Speaker 1: With some of sum I would say, and in certain 226 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,720 ways I would say that I was very a stress 227 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:43,200 less golf you know, I wasn't worrying about it and 228 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,320 trying or competing or anything like that. So in that way, 229 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,720 I could just go out and have a good time. 230 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:50,639 On the other hand, I really did notice during that 231 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:57,720 period that the focus the fitness, the centering, the balance 232 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:00,360 and flow that I was getting from iqto it was 233 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:05,879 directly translating into my golf and so even without practicing, 234 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:08,320 I was doing well. But I also noticed that I 235 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,159 was sort of rusty, that it really does take some 236 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,120 more practice and play than I was doing to really. 237 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: Be you know, really be good. 238 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was. 239 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,399 Speaker 1: But I was impressed at how well I was maintained 240 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:21,720 and even improving without hardly playing or practicing right on 241 00:12:21,799 --> 00:12:24,639 the basis of of iketo practice. 242 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,519 Speaker 5: The balance and flow. Now, is this. 243 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,279 Speaker 3: A psychological boost for you in your golf game? 244 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 5: You know, we're going to keep it back to golf. 245 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: But did the psychology the mindset of iketo help your 246 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:42,600 golf game or was there the physical element to you 247 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,159 talked about balance and flow. 248 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,879 Speaker 1: Well, it's both, and that's why I keep saying mind body. 249 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,120 It's funny people say, oh, you know, golf, it's all 250 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:52,840 between your ears, it's all a mental game. 251 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of scenarios, and. 252 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,159 Speaker 1: I'm a psychologist, so I'm all for it. On the 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,440 other hand, you can stand there and stare at the 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,720 golf ball from your head and it's not going anywhere. 255 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,639 Speaker 2: So it's not all a mental game. 256 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: In fact, I have a nice article it's on my 257 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,759 website called golf is a mental game? 258 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: Question mark? Is it really? 259 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? So then it's a physical game. The thing is 260 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:17,799 that golf is mostly taught is a physical game. Here's 261 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,720 the techniques. Here's where your STANCHI R posture, put your 262 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,440 hands here, do this, release them there, da da da, 263 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,840 all these little things that you're supposed to like piece 264 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:29,080 together like beads on a string, and it's all going 265 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,279 to add up to a good swing. And also equipment, 266 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,320 as if if you just drop another four or five 267 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:38,600 hundred dollars on these great clubs or drivers, something you're 268 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,080 going to do better. So golf is so much taught 269 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,440 as a physical game, and the focus on mechanics and technique, 270 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:47,200 well that's not really working that great for everybody either. 271 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,879 So there must be something about this interface, this joined 272 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,720 integrated interaction, holistic right of the mind and body working 273 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,919 together that is important to create more success in golf 274 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:04,279 and golf instruction, golf learning and playing better golf. 275 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: So that's the part that I think. 276 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I've certainly been trying to lead the way, and there 277 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,000 are some others trying to lead the way in that realm. 278 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: So that everybody could play better. 279 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: It's it's like, you know, you can go off to 280 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,360 a therapist or whatever, do some hypnotherapy. You may or 281 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,720 may not play better, right, You may or may not 282 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:27,080 do any better if you've got these new clubs. But 283 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:29,679 when you have a certain amount of self mastery and 284 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,879 you actually understand stability, centeredness, relaxed, flowing power, how to 285 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:37,320 focus your mind, how to have your mind be able 286 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,799 to tell your right elbow to drop into the slot 287 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,039 right now while you're right knees kicking. In most of us, 288 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,840 most players, and most average golfers don't have that kind 289 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:50,799 of mind body connection that they can even utilize even 290 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:53,360 just physical instruction, because they don't really know where their 291 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,840 body parts are that well, wow. 292 00:14:56,919 --> 00:14:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really it's neat. 293 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 294 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: The other part of the physical that's going on these 295 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:05,200 days is golf fitness. I mean, I'm a huge support 296 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,759 of golf fitness. I've designed, as you and those who've 297 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,279 heard some of the previous podcasts know, golf bliss balance 298 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:15,000 length and integrate stretch strength, and so I've designed a 299 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,480 whole golf fitness program. 300 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm all about golf fitness. 301 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: On the other hand, just more physical fitness or going 302 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,559 to the gym or getting a little stronger, that's not 303 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,759 necessarily going to improve your play either. So that you 304 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,679 have the kind of self control of your mind, of 305 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,720 your muscles, of your swing, of being in different situations 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,639 that you need to actually play with confidence and consistency 307 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:44,159 and repeatability, so that you'll actually be a better golfer. 308 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: If I am going to the gym on a semi 309 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,200 regular basis and and I'm going there with the thought 310 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,440 of this is going to not only keep my heart pumping, 311 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,679 but it's also going to improve my golf game. Should 312 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:03,279 focus more on strength or flexibility. 313 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:10,559 Speaker 1: Oh, isn't that a good question? Well, the good news 314 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:13,000 of the bad news. My usual answer is, guess what. 315 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,279 Speaker 5: It's both all of the above. 316 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,759 Speaker 1: And its I mean, there's individuals who they have strength, 317 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:23,399 so they need a little more flexibility. 318 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:24,759 Speaker 2: There's some people who are. 319 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Or maybe a little more on the flexible or even 320 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:28,759 gum beside, and they could do a little more strength. 321 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I think in general we need. 322 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,559 Speaker 1: To have a good balance, a good dose, in a 323 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:42,000 good ratio of both strength and flexibility because they're both important. 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,039 And the strength part has to do I think a 325 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,559 lot with lower body and core strength so that you 326 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,440 have stability. 327 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: You have yeah, so you have the stability and you have. 328 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: The actual shall we say, muscle power to control the 329 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:59,039 club and to really put some power into the shot. 330 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:02,799 On the other hand, the flexibility and the relaxation is 331 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,000 important because you've got to be able to have spinal rotation. 332 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,400 You really need to be able to extend on your 333 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,200 back swing and extend your arms and through on the 334 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:15,880 forward swing so that you have a maximum with arc. 335 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,279 And then the relaxation to develop club head speed and 336 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,839 the flow, the delivery of energy and a flowing way 337 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:28,519 to the golf ball. Even more flexibility in your wrists. 338 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,519 Sam Sneed said, your wrists should be oily. Most people 339 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:34,519 have never even heard of a rist exercise. These are 340 00:17:34,519 --> 00:17:36,559 things we have an ike goo and we actually need 341 00:17:36,599 --> 00:17:40,000 more flexibility in our wrists, while we have more strength 342 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,799 in some of the muscles of our forearms and also 343 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,799 our abdomen and our core. So again, and these aren't 344 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:50,000 things that you have to be a tour player with 345 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,880 an entourage to develop. I've actually, in my golf fitness 346 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,440 program made a very accessible golf program that works on 347 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,079 all those areas balance, length and integrate, stretch strength, and 348 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,640 so we're working on stretching and strengthening, so we have 349 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:10,680 the integration, we have the length, the extension, the turning ability, 350 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,480 that sort of thing, and that way we can and 351 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:17,319 it's all using your golf club, so that your average 352 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,200 player can do a golf warm up routine, can do 353 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,720 a golf fitness and a golf swing development routine, even 354 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:25,680 every day of the week at home, in your office, 355 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,079 in your yard, in the park. 356 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: Not to mention, of course, the driving range and the 357 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:29,720 golf course. 358 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: But these are the things that anybody can do without 359 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,799 having to be an elite or tour player, and without 360 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,599 having to pay a lot of money or have some 361 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:44,119 kind of entourage. Right, this is natural to all of us. 362 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:46,640 We're just all human beings with a body to mind, 363 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,640 and that's how it works. 364 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: We've had a listener on actually recently who's a workout 365 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,880 fanatic and has just become this incredible body and he 366 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,559 says it helps his game, but you know, he's he's 367 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:06,599 spending a lot of time at the gym on a 368 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,000 regular basis. But if we don't have that kind of 369 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:14,400 time if we, you know, don't have that discipline. When 370 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,359 we're talking about strength, there are elements of you know, 371 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,880 the arms, the wrists, the you know, the shoulders, biceps, triceps, 372 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,440 but then you have the core and then you have 373 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:30,799 lower body strength, calves, knees, hips. Is there a place 374 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:33,359 to focus or is this all over the place? Is 375 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,000 this weight bearing training for strength training or is it 376 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,400 machine strength training? 377 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,079 Speaker 2: It would help. 378 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,839 Speaker 3: Mind this one because I'm a swimmer, so yeah, stay 379 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:47,880 away from machines. I just swim, which to me gives 380 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,279 me strength and flexibility. 381 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: So well, I'm glad you asked this question too, Fred, 382 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,119 because it's reminded me of a story when I first 383 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:58,960 was creating my Kia Golf instructional series and we were 384 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,519 filming it out in mesk Nevada, Las Vegas area, and 385 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:07,039 this was some years ago, and the producers of this 386 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,799 had heard about a guy at a Butch Harmon golf gym. 387 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,400 And this is when Butch was still Tiger's coach in 388 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,839 Las Vegas, and there was this guy who was certified 389 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,519 in Butch Harmon and fitness and they wanted me to 390 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,480 meet him because I had this fitness program that we 391 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,920 were filming. So off we went in Las Vegas to 392 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,960 this gym and this big, tall, buff bodybuilder guy with 393 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:33,720 all these like twenty thousand dollars machines was running the 394 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,480 golf fitness program and so I. 395 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,279 Speaker 2: Was he was in charge his place. 396 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:42,079 Speaker 1: So I got on all of his his machines and know, 397 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960 I'm in good shape, and I did all of his 398 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:46,880 stuff on his machines, which was challenging, but you know, 399 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,599 I could do it all. 400 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: And then I was like, okay. 401 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: Well then they all looked at me and went, it's 402 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:53,559 you know, it's the girls turn, right, it's your turn. 403 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:57,400 So I said, I don't know a girl they're dealing with, 404 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:05,640 that's right. And so I gave him a golf club. 405 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,000 And I had a golf club. Each had a six 406 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:10,519 seven iron. And my program is called make your Golf 407 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:13,599 Club your Health Club. All my exercises use a golf club. 408 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:18,359 And we did the first exercise, which actually is a 409 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,079 whole nervous system tune up. 410 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:23,519 Speaker 2: It stretches your. 411 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: Spine, your hamstrings, your lats, It gets your breathing, pumps 412 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:30,319 energy through your body all in one exercise and loosened 413 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:33,359 your neck, loosens your shoulders, it's a great first exercise, 414 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,480 and then you do repetitions of the exercise ten up 415 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,599 to twenty five. To do one hundred of them, I'm 416 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,240 telling you that'll give you a lot of fitness. 417 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: So anyways, I just got. 418 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:45,759 Speaker 1: Him in position and I think we did fifteen or 419 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,640 twenty reps. This big, tall muscle builder was sweating and 420 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,160 grunting and like, oh man, he was struggling. 421 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,279 Speaker 2: Well, that was the first one. 422 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: Then we went through maybe half dozen of my exercises that, 423 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,359 by the way, actually lead into and build your golf swing. 424 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: Hardly hang with my exercises, and. 425 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: This is after being on all of his difficult expenses machines. 426 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:11,640 I've never forgotten that story. And I've worked with a 427 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,240 lot of people. I've worked with some tpis and Titleist 428 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,559 Performance Training and much to my shock, and I mean, 429 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:23,200 it's a great program TPI, but I've had some instructors 430 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,319 and TPI not actually know certain positions of the golf 431 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,200 swing that they need to be into and not be 432 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:32,119 able to have the flexibility to get there. 433 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 434 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,759 Speaker 1: For example, a full follow through and turn your heel 435 00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:37,680 and be up on your toe on your right toe 436 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,880 with your heel fully turned, which has turned your hips 437 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,000 and your spine full rotation through and strong and tall 438 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,720 on your left leg and a good balance finished position. 439 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: They didn't know that position that. 440 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,519 Speaker 1: Well and couldn't even get to it, and these guys 441 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:55,440 were instructors. So once again, this is stuff that everybody 442 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:59,400 can develop. It's really not that hard and there are 443 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,720 pretty easy ways to develop it in terms of strength 444 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:07,839 building strength, imagine doing just a leg lift. For example, 445 00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,200 Let's say in one hand, you've got your your seven 446 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,319 iron and you're leaning on it. You've got your left 447 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,000 hand on top of the seven iron for balance, and 448 00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:18,440 you're standing there and then you lift your right leg. 449 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: Okay, so now you're gonna do leg lifts. You're gonna 450 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,559 keep your. 451 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: Right knee locked, and then you're gonna lift from your 452 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,960 hip and you're using the pelvic support muscles, hip flexers, 453 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:34,279 low back, and so imagine doing ten leg lifts. You're 454 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:38,119 lifting up against psi pounds per square inch of pressure. 455 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,160 So to lift up, you're already like lifting weights, and 456 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,599 it's all internal strengthening of the big and little muscles 457 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,000 in your whole hip, lower back, sacral complex. To do 458 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:53,039 those leg lifts, do ten of them? Do twenty of them. 459 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,519 Try doing one hundred of them. You will feel like 460 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:59,640 you've just been lifting weights. But it's safe and you're 461 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,640 in control role of how many repetitions you do, so 462 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,720 you don't overdo. You're not lifting weights that might tear 463 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:08,039 a muscle, but you're getting weightlifting because you're going up 464 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:08,920 against PSI. 465 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,839 Speaker 5: Wow, awesome, thank you, that's interesting, and yeah, thank you. 466 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,799 Speaker 1: And it's free, you know, well the price of a 467 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,359 lesson or of a DVD. But I mean, seriously, you're 468 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,640 in power. You can do that. You can do that yourself. 469 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,960 And when you strengthen those muscles, all of a sudden 470 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240 you're standing there. You take your stance. You want to 471 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,640 talk about good posture, athletic address of the ball. You've 472 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:37,279 got the muscles, power in your musculature to actually stand 473 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:39,759 in a good athletic stance to be able to swing 474 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,759 a golf club, wind up and deliver seventy eighty one 475 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:46,720 hundred miles an hour of energy flow into a golf 476 00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:49,839 ball and actually have the stability to contain that. 477 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: And hold that and have balance. 478 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: To me, if you look on TV or you go 479 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,680 to a tournament, you watch the pros and tour pros. 480 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:00,880 Probably the biggest difference between the professional and the amateurs 481 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,440 is their balance. And balance is what contains the energy 482 00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:07,799 so that you can deliver it all into the golf ball, 483 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:13,400 so the golf ball gets maximum distance and maximum accuracy, 484 00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:14,799 optimal accuracy. 485 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,559 Speaker 2: Balance is critical to that. 486 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,079 Speaker 1: When people are like lifting off the ball, you know, 487 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,680 swaying off the ball and lifting up through it and 488 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:25,920 falling back after they try to muscle it and they 489 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000 recoil and it kicks them back and their ball's not going. 490 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,640 That's because they don't have those that musculature and that 491 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,839 awareness and that ability to be so balanced. 492 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: And one of the. 493 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,759 Speaker 1: Most beautiful things about the touring pros, male and female 494 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,079 is their balance. 495 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,799 Speaker 3: That's one of the things that I struggle with a lot. 496 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,519 I know that when I step up, especially t shots, 497 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,920 when I need to tell myself keep your balance. You 498 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,319 don't need to swing hard, you know, because I seem 499 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,200 to people like, oh, you really swung out of your 500 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,759 shoes on that one. 501 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: I didn't I swing easy. 502 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: I just fell over because I have no balance. 503 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,039 Speaker 3: By the way, episode number two twenty five of Golf Smarter, 504 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,559 it was make your golf club your health club. 505 00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:14,279 Speaker 5: We use that. 506 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,279 Speaker 3: So, taking your lead on that, I think that this 507 00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:21,799 episode will be called golf is a mental game question 508 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,400 mark based on your blog. 509 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 5: I hope you don't mind doing that. 510 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,319 Speaker 3: Good. So on the balance, I want to focus on 511 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,880 the last five minutes here on the balance element of 512 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,000 that is the balance come from the upper body or 513 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,559 the lower body? 514 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: No, it is founded in the lower body. 515 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: And we could talk for a long time about the 516 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:45,279 importance of the lower body and the golf swing. 517 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:47,759 Speaker 3: Well, then wait before you go on with the answer. 518 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:49,680 Can we do a part two of this conversation. 519 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh, we absolutely can. 520 00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite topics and I will share 521 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,319 the secret of the back knee with everybody. 522 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,279 Speaker 5: Okay, So the prior to. 523 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: This, it's just it's really pretty interesting, and I actually 524 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,519 go through this in my DVD series. We go through 525 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,799 all the sports. I do this in my seminars with people. 526 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,200 If you throw a baseball, if you hit a home run, 527 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,839 if you throw a football, a quarterback throw in a football, 528 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,160 if you do a forehand in tennis, a backhand in tennis. 529 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,599 Those start in the feet. If you watch a basketball player, 530 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,519 they kind of go down first before they come up, 531 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,720 before they do a jump. Shot, they go down into 532 00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,640 their legs and feet, their knees. 533 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: Then all the. 534 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: Energy comes back up through their body and that's what 535 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,400 we call the base and the core, and then their 536 00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:44,279 upper body shoulders, elbows, hands are soft and relaxed and 537 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:50,039 deliver that energy and softly deliver the ball. But golf, 538 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,640 unlike all these other sports, is you know, you stand 539 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,440 there and it's almost like people put their focus on 540 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,680 the golf ball. They can see their arms and they're 541 00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:04,200 tighten their hands on the club, so they're. 542 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: All in their upper body. 543 00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: And then they're even taught unfortunately mostly by male pros 544 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,839 who have strong upper bodies. Take the club away with 545 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,880 your shoulders, with your hands, and they're all worrying about 546 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,079 their shoulder turn rather than thinking about how like every 547 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:23,359 other sport, things originate in the feet, and the feet 548 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,640 go up through the knees to the hips, and then 549 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:29,119 then comes the upper body on top of that. So 550 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,799 we need to follow every other sport and we don't. 551 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,480 And quite honestly, a beautiful quote to what everybody's appetite 552 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,759 for the next episode, and it's from Jack Nicholas, who 553 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,839 is a pretty darn good golfer, and his quote is 554 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,720 golf is played between the arches. 555 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: Of your feet. 556 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 5: Wow. 557 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's straight. 558 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,119 Speaker 1: From Jack Nicholas, and I loved it when I found 559 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,920 that quote. I was reading in some golf magazine from 560 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,519 a decade ago, and I. 561 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:57,799 Speaker 2: Was at a club somewhere. 562 00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:00,839 Speaker 1: I literally ripped that page out of that old golf 563 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:04,119 magazine because it had a picture of Jack rolling his 564 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,319 feet and everything and talking about it. Because I teach 565 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:12,480 working from the end steps up and working from the 566 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:14,759 ground up. Look at the football players, I mean, all 567 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:16,279 their drills their lower body. 568 00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:20,079 Speaker 2: Every sport is lower body. And here when I teach ki. 569 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,079 Speaker 1: Golf, most people, I joke, they practically kiss my feet 570 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,640 because they never heard and they have not been taught 571 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,039 about using their lower body and how to why it's important, 572 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,240 and how to do it. 573 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:36,359 Speaker 2: I called the mechanics for the magic. 574 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,799 Speaker 1: So I would be very happy to talk about use 575 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:43,000 of the lower body and how that's important, and how 576 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:47,279 it relates then to the connected, proper, relaxed, flowing use 577 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,920 of the upper body rather than just you know, my 578 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,279 shoulder turn and not turning my shoulders enough. That's where 579 00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:57,079 so many people are stuck, and they've missed so much, 580 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,119 and they are not following the natural order things which 581 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,200 every other sport does. 582 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: I think we should take a clue. 583 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,839 Speaker 3: Okay, well I think we should do that in the 584 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,720 next episode. 585 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,759 Speaker 2: That sounds like fun. 586 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,759 Speaker 5: That's that's perfect. Thank you. Why don't you give us 587 00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:10,319 a little hint. 588 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: You alluded to a DVD series and other things that 589 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,400 you have available on your website. What do you got 590 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,720 this holiday season for the golf Smarter audience. 591 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: Well, we are having a holiday special on my Evergreen 592 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,400 Kii Golf Instructural series. 593 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,799 Speaker 2: It's got three DVDs. 594 00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,119 Speaker 1: One is called The Universal Principles for Success, the next 595 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:36,039 one is Golf Bliss, the golf fitness program make your 596 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:37,079 golf Club your health club. 597 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: And the other is called the Kii Golf Katas. 598 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Which is patterning your golf swing using kind of martial 599 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,559 arts principles, but patterning your golf swing so you have repeatability, accuracy, 600 00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:51,880 correct movement, and all these principles are incorporated into those exercises. 601 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,759 So there's three DVDs, a companion manual, a pocket guide 602 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:58,359 that's all in that series, and that's going to be 603 00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:01,680 on a major holiday discount. I'll be on It's on 604 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,799 my website, and I have a Bliss Fitness which isn't 605 00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:09,119 necessarily golf related, but all the Bliss Fitness original core 606 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,119 workout exercises DVD and a really cool trainer, this balance 607 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,079 forward that weaves in these principles. 608 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,359 Speaker 2: That people really love. So that's available on my. 609 00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:21,599 Speaker 1: Website, and I'm going to be running a holiday special 610 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,599 of some virtual golf lessons that we can do via 611 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Skype wow, and people can find all that on my website. 612 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160 And if you want to do an in person lesson, 613 00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:32,160 that's great too. 614 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,839 Speaker 2: I'm located in. 615 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: The Bay Area and I also travel a lot, so 616 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,559 I sometimes arrive to many locales and we can get together. 617 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: It is there a way for the golf Smarter community 618 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,559 to let you know that they heard about this on 619 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:50,720 golf Smarter when they make a purchase, And is there 620 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,960 any or is this the holiday special part of what 621 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,839 the discount is for the audience. 622 00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we will do the tech end 623 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,680 of that today or tomorrow weekend, and we will let 624 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,880 people be able to indicate that they've heard through golf Smarter. 625 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,359 And my website is you can get to my website 626 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,640 same website one of two ways Kei goolf dot com 627 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,079 k i AI golf dot com or the kei Way 628 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,680 dot com t h E k I A I w 629 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:24,599 A Y the kiway dot com and the stores on 630 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,240 there and all the information. 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Ten years 642 00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,440 as a great milestone. I've been doing wonderful service for 643 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,119 the golf world.