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<v Speaker 1>sign up today and thank you for the support. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it is that Ham radio operators get

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<v Speaker 1>upset and get mad when you use a Ham radio

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<v Speaker 1>on an FRS and GMRS frequency. I've got an answer

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and it might not be what you expect,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go. Today's video is sponsored by ham dot Live.

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<v Speaker 1>for the interview I did with the creator. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a question I've heard several times in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw this Reddit article, I thought, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to make a video about that, because quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that comes up a lot. It's something that

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<v Speaker 1>comes up a lot, and there's I kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>two minds about it. I have two thoughts about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm torn between which one I actually believe more So,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show you this article right here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is again from Reddit, and this is a new subreddit

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<v Speaker 1>I found called low Sodium ham Radio. There's some good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in there, little bit more salty, little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>wild wild West in that subreddit over the amateur radio subreddit,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but some very good information, good people in

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. So why do so many hams get

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly asmad? That's a new one on me, asmad. Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>when you use a ham radio on FRSGMRS that's been

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<v Speaker 1>programmed properly, okay, and he quotes, but it's illegal. Bro

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<v Speaker 1>Aside from that, if I programmed a handheld radio and

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<v Speaker 1>he says a handheld radio right here, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people will tell you that a Bowfang UV five R

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<v Speaker 1>is a ham radio and while the balfang technically targets Hams,

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<v Speaker 1>they target a lot of other groups as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's been a lot of So some kid buying

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<v Speaker 1>a bowfang off of Amazon and using it on some

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<v Speaker 1>frequency that a bowfang will transmit on. That doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it a Ham radio. It will transmit on Ham radio bands,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of them. Some of the newer ones are

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<v Speaker 1>locked down, but most of the older ones were just

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<v Speaker 1>full of and transmit anywhere. That makes them not really

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<v Speaker 1>not technically a Ham radio. There's a lot of Part

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<v Speaker 1>ninety commercial radios out there that'll transmit one p thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six to one seventy four and from four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>four eighty or maybe upwards of five twenty megahertz. It

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<v Speaker 1>covers all of the bands, GMRSFRS, ham Radio, Marine Band,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things. That doesn't make it a Ham

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<v Speaker 1>radio just because it transmits on Ham radio frequencies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a Part ninety commercial radio that can be used on

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<v Speaker 1>more multiple services. So just because of Bowfang transmits on

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<v Speaker 1>Ham radio frequencies doesn't necessarily make it a Ham radio,

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<v Speaker 1>although a lot of people use it on Ham radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Is completely legal to use on Ham radio, and Bowfang

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<v Speaker 1>themselves target Ham radio operators like my target Ham radio

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<v Speaker 1>operator channels like this one. They've sent me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of emails in the past, and they sent me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of radios as well to do videos about. So

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<v Speaker 1>technically it can be considered a Ham radio, but when

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about Ham radio, I'm an actual handheld Ham radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about because he says handheld radio in

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<v Speaker 1>this article right here right there, highlight it says handheld radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about a bowfang? Are you talking about

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<v Speaker 1>like a yazu icm Kinwood radio that you've mars moded.

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<v Speaker 1>Either one could do what you're talking about. So just

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<v Speaker 1>something to think about is set it to use zero

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<v Speaker 1>point five or two wats depending on the channel, and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve point five killer Hurtz channel with who am I hurting?

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<v Speaker 1>The FCC nor ised has literally never given even the

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<v Speaker 1>most most minuscule of cares about the above situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it saves me from having to carry a second radio. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's let's break this down first. Okay, let me

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<v Speaker 1>say this first off. You're right, I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand why Hams would care that you're using a

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<v Speaker 1>Ham radio, be it a bowfanger, an actual Ham radio

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<v Speaker 1>like an icon kin would yazu. Okay, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why Hams would care if you're using those radios on

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<v Speaker 1>FRS frequencies. I don't get it. I know it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>In thirty years of being a Ham radio operator. I

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<v Speaker 1>have never seen anyone get mad, either on the air

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<v Speaker 1>or in person on the air, on the air, using

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<v Speaker 1>the radio, or in person in Ham Radio club gatherings

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<v Speaker 1>or in Hamfest group gatherings. I've never met anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>was mad at someone else for using their Ham radio

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<v Speaker 1>on FRS frequencies or GMRS frequencies. Same frequencies. But by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, GMRS has eight repeater channels that FS doesn't have,

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<v Speaker 1>and FOS has a lower channel output that they can

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<v Speaker 1>use over GMRS with the frequencies or the first twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two frequencies on both services are all the same. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that. Now I know it exists because

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen hundreds of comments from you guys out there saying,

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<v Speaker 1>why do people get mad about this? People are getting

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<v Speaker 1>I got yelled at this. I got heard someone get

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<v Speaker 1>mad about this. I heard someone get yelled at about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this on an Internet post somewhere, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So why do people get mad about this? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't get it. It's a stupid

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<v Speaker 1>thing to get mad about. I understand if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about unlicensed people transmitting on Ham radio frequencies. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>totally different game, totally different ball of wax. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about today. Today, we're talking about using

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<v Speaker 1>a handheld radio that's not meant for FS to transmit

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<v Speaker 1>on FOS frequencies. Yes, it is illegal, yes, to have

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<v Speaker 1>a FCC certified radio to transmit on FRS and on gmrs.

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<v Speaker 1>This is stupid. This is a stupid rule because those

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<v Speaker 1>radios typically are made in China, and they're typically not

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of radio that say a Motorola or an

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<v Speaker 1>Icon or a Kinwood would be if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>modify those A lot of Motorola radios are Part nine

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<v Speaker 1>EM will transmit on those frequencies. Anyway, It's stupid to

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<v Speaker 1>think that a Part ninety five certified radio from the FCC,

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<v Speaker 1>which comes from China, and maybe the certification maybe was

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<v Speaker 1>fudged on a little bit. I don't know. Would some

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<v Speaker 1>is somehow less disruptive than a really good Motorola or

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<v Speaker 1>Icon radio that's been modified to transmit on FS frequencies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. It's going to be a cleaner signal

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<v Speaker 1>from a Motorola or an Icon than it is from

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<v Speaker 1>some cheap Chinese radio that you buy in a blister

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<v Speaker 1>pack from bast pro shops anyway. So I don't get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. I don't get it. Okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know again, I've never seen it in person. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anyone who's upset about this, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>it exists because people talk about it on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I've never heard anyone talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, but they talk about it on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet all the time. So I don't get this. But

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<v Speaker 1>having said all that, don't come along and say no

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<v Speaker 1>one cares, because if they didn't care, they wouldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>a rule or a law over it. Okay. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is illegal. It is illegal to use non certified radios

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<v Speaker 1>on FRS, on GMRS, okay, on business band. Ham Radio

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a certification process. Part ninety seven is an

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<v Speaker 1>experimenter's license. We can build and use our own radios

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<v Speaker 1>and transmitters. It's basically the only service out there that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that. GMRS you can't do that, CB

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, FS business, most of the business

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<v Speaker 1>bands you can't do that. So Marine band you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So Part ninety seven is a radio experimenter's license,

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't really there's no such things a Part

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven certified radio, but there is Part ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>certified for FURS and GMRS part whatever it is for CB.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget. It is illegal to use use a other

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<v Speaker 1>classification radio on those frequencies because it's not certified. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a dumb rule, it's a dumb law, but it is there.

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<v Speaker 1>So the part that I have seen people get upset

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<v Speaker 1>about is simply that when someone says it's illegal, people

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<v Speaker 1>like to blow up at you and arguable, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>one cares. It's not a little no, it's not yes.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. Go ahead and do it if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you not to do it, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. Don't come by and tell me. Nobody cares

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<v Speaker 1>and it's illegal because you can get busted for that

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<v Speaker 1>if you just get on the air and you're a

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<v Speaker 1>total jackass and someone calls you out and you get

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<v Speaker 1>caught with it somehow. The likelihood that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get caught with that is very, very very minimal, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not zero. It might be like zero

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<v Speaker 1>point five percent chance, but it's not zero. You could

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<v Speaker 1>totally do that, and there's stories, and there's stories I've

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<v Speaker 1>shared on this channel about people getting caught for faulty

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<v Speaker 1>transmitters on GMRS, for transmitting on GMRS with that license

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<v Speaker 1>and this kind of thing. So people do care, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand why Hams get so upset about

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<v Speaker 1>another services frequencies like FRS, FRS or not Ham radio frequencies.

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<v Speaker 1>So why do we care. I don't get that. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't now. If you are a Ham radio operator

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<v Speaker 1>or really a GMRS operator and you want to run

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<v Speaker 1>a net on your local GMRS or Ham radio repeater,

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out link in the description BLOW. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Sean ham dot live creator. I interviewed him on

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<v Speaker 1>this channel a while back. I'll leave the link to

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<v Speaker 1>that interview in the description BLOW. So go check that

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<v Speaker 1>out website and let me know what you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So a few of the comments on this article, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ham's are just role playing as code enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to make something perfectly clear. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>does not This does not include FRS frequencies. Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I said a minute ago, I don't get it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a thing in the ABRL called a volunteer

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<v Speaker 1>monitor program. Volunteer Monitor program is a formal agreement between

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<v Speaker 1>the FCC and the ABRAL. Volunteers trained and vetted by

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<v Speaker 1>a DOBRL, monitor the airwaves and collect evidence that can

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<v Speaker 1>be used to both correct misconduct and recognize exemplary on

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<v Speaker 1>air operations. So, in other words, it's not just policing

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<v Speaker 1>the bands, it's recognizing good operators on the band. Cases

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<v Speaker 1>of flagrant violations are referred to by FCC by a

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<v Speaker 1>DOUBLEL for action and accordance with FCC guidelines. This program

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<v Speaker 1>re energizes enforcement efforts in the amateur radio bands. So

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<v Speaker 1>this does not include frsgmors, make that perfectly clear. To

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge, GMRS does not have a program like this.

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<v Speaker 1>But since basically the dawn of time, HAM radio operators

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<v Speaker 1>have been self plas leasing long before the FCC. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>got involved. A lot of people want to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the FCC. I would vote in favor of getting

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<v Speaker 1>the FCC out of ham radio because ABRL and radio

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<v Speaker 1>transmissions existed before the FCC did. I'm actually looking at

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<v Speaker 1>maybe doing some sort of video about history of the FCC.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see program re energizes enforcement efforts in the

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<v Speaker 1>amateur radio bands. We're not talking about that here. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hams are just role playing against code enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why why are they role playing as code enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>on an FRS frequency. I don't know. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dumb thing to do. Stop doing it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing this, no one cares. I don't care. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about again, if you're talking about unlicensed

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<v Speaker 1>people on HAM radio bands, that's different. That's what this

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<v Speaker 1>is for. But as far as people using radios on FURS,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. So here we go. Right here. Hams

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<v Speaker 1>are still able to build an operator own radios. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I was talking about part ninety seven minute ago.

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<v Speaker 1>On the HAMD bands is covered under our license. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from experimental situations, hams are the only ones they

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<v Speaker 1>able to build and essentially certify our own equipment. FSGMRS

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<v Speaker 1>are type certified for s such as much like ism.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what that is. The device is license,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. I bet this is a major woosh though,

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<v Speaker 1>loll I know you're either quoting from the original commercial

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<v Speaker 1>with the family Guary Pernie. That's funny. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get here's a good comment. I don't get mad about

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<v Speaker 1>it because I do the same thing, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>tell people to shut up about doing it because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be openly obvious. Yeah, when people actually

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<v Speaker 1>get mad is when I don't want to bother getting

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<v Speaker 1>on a license and I'm just going to buy this

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<v Speaker 1>bail fing and use it. However, I want correct the

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<v Speaker 1>first roll of Ham radios on FOSK on FRS club

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<v Speaker 1>as you don't talk about Ham radios on FURS club.

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<v Speaker 1>What is an f S club? Never heard of such

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. Never heard of such a thing as an

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<v Speaker 1>f r S GMRS club. Sure, GMRS club. I never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of him as f S club. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>making a joke. I laughed at it. It's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Some Hams just don't like FRS in general. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard this either, I've never heard this either. My good

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<v Speaker 1>friend told me I'd rather die than I'd rather die

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<v Speaker 1>than call for help on an FRS radio, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure he was serious. Well, then this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>probably probably just an old curmudgeon because I've never I

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<v Speaker 1>used f for us. A few times, some couple of

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<v Speaker 1>my hunting buddies I hunt with don't have a GMRS

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<v Speaker 1>or HAM radio license. We use f FORS radios to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to each other when we're out at the hunting lease.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very possible that I used one of my

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<v Speaker 1>part ninety certified radios to do that. But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, You don't know that, You have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>if that's true or not. So agreed HAM and GMRS user.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here, I'll hand an FRS to a friend and

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<v Speaker 1>GMRS to a family member who has no desire to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>and take a tech test tech test, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a great day skiing safely, keeping in touch, coordinating lift

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<v Speaker 1>up to the end. And because FORS GMRS are interoperable,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, they're all the same frequencies, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>easy for us. GMRS a very useful and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>to have a license in addition to my to radio license.

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<v Speaker 1>One is a support tool in pursue the hobby, the

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<v Speaker 1>other as a hobby that can be applied sometimes to

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<v Speaker 1>other hobbies, but more often as not the hobby itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy says that's where I'm at. My spies

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<v Speaker 1>has no interest in hand However, I got GMR lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>GMRS license and three handhelds because your GMRS covers your

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<v Speaker 1>entire family. So long story short, a bunch of babbling

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<v Speaker 1>from my end on that. So I apologize, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening this far if you've made it to this

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<v Speaker 1>part of the video. I don't get why anyone cares

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<v Speaker 1>what radios you use on FURS And if this is

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<v Speaker 1>something if you're a Ham radio operator and you've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>mad at someone for using their radio on FRS, what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck man? Seriously, if they come over to Ham

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<v Speaker 1>radio and start babbling on six top five to two

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<v Speaker 1>without a license, that is something we should politely address

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<v Speaker 1>them about. We shouldn't get mad and start yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>him over the air, start calling them out on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a break, okay, but using your radio on FRS,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares? I like to know what you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>about this, I would like to an honest discussion in

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<v Speaker 1>the comment section of this video. Put a comment below

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<v Speaker 1>let me know what you think. Thanks for watching today.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, YouTube thinks you want to watch these

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<v Speaker 1>videos next, so go check those out.