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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Nicole, as far as I'm concerned, the weekend has

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<v Speaker 2>already started. It's Friday night. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>I happen to be working. You happen to be working.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really not our weekend, but the weekend is underway.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray, host of Nightside. Rob Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>he's working too. He is the producer back in the

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<v Speaker 2>control room at Broadcast Central, the big socket for WBZ Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to WBZ Radio and ten thirty Am in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray, and we have four very

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<v Speaker 2>special guests on this hour. Later on tonight, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the big snowstorm heading this way tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>This one looks like maybe the first real deal we've

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<v Speaker 2>had in several years here in the New England area.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're going to talk about streamflation. Now every price

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<v Speaker 2>of everything's going up, regular TV, cable TV, and now

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<v Speaker 2>they get you with all these the streaming services. And

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have our Super Bowl predictions and there'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>prize involved for the person who comes closest to predicting

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<v Speaker 2>the accurate winners and the closest to the final score.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna begin with four interesting guests, and first

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<v Speaker 2>we're going across the pond to truck with Robbie Dueck.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the CEO of a company called blast b Last

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<v Speaker 2>like blast Off, and he is with an e sports

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<v Speaker 2>program that's competitive video gaming. I'm not sure that I

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<v Speaker 2>know too much about it, but I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>learn about a lot because they're going to be hosting

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<v Speaker 2>a major event at the MGM Music Hall later this month.

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<v Speaker 2>Robbie Dueck, welcome from You're over in England right now? Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, dain nice to be here on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. Where about Are you in London or

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<v Speaker 2>are you out in the countryside?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, London, London, London. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>as cold as it sounds like it's over there. It's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty it sounds pretty bleak.

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<v Speaker 2>Well No, no, we love son here in New England.

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<v Speaker 2>We're hardy New England, so that's no problem. A mere

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<v Speaker 2>five to eight inches they're talking about we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about like people will freak out, will there'll be

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<v Speaker 2>no bread and milk in the stores. Tomorrow. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing. Everybody gets, bread, milk and eggs. You can

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<v Speaker 2>always be making French toast during a snowstorm, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tradition here in New England. So what is

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<v Speaker 2>competitive video gaming and you're hosting this major event at

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<v Speaker 2>the MGM Music Hall in February. I don't know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about competitive gaming. What are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this is like the combination of the best

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<v Speaker 3>teams in the world playing competitive games. So competitive e

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<v Speaker 3>sports is competitive teams who aren't sort of built out

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<v Speaker 3>to play a specific game and compete against each other

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<v Speaker 3>in front of a live audience, streams around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>in front of millions of people. And that's what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be hosted in Boston in the next week at

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<v Speaker 3>the MGM, and it's going to be a spectacle that

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<v Speaker 3>you've never seen before. Probably playing to.

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<v Speaker 2>You that, So let me ask you this. I can

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<v Speaker 2>remember when they had big time chess matches and there

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<v Speaker 2>was an American going against a Russian or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that back in the days, and they would be streamed.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't streamed, it was just on TV and people

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<v Speaker 2>would watch. And that's not the same thing as we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about you're talking about people like consoles, and what

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<v Speaker 2>are the games they compete with. We're not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>basketball or hockey games. We're talking about probably some of

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<v Speaker 2>the war games, I assume, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so these are like what they call first person shooters,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they're like they're like competitive games where they're

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<v Speaker 3>actually strategy games.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a game where you've got a certain

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<v Speaker 3>amount of people playing against each other in what they

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<v Speaker 3>call a map. So that's like an environment where they're

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<v Speaker 3>playing to win a given round against each other to

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<v Speaker 3>then ultimately win the set like in tennis if you want, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And they're competing in a really tactical way with like

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<v Speaker 3>ammunition to try and find out where they are on

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<v Speaker 3>the map and ultimately win the round, right, And it

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<v Speaker 3>takes a lot of practice and skill.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And these competitive gamers are they mostly young people?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they old people like me who have taken up

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<v Speaker 2>the sport in their retirement even though I'm not retired.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. They tend to be they tend to skew a

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<v Speaker 3>lot younger. And actually the average gamement who's a competitive

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<v Speaker 3>gament probably by the age of twenty seven or twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>he's he or she's in their retirement, right, And the

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<v Speaker 3>reason for that is because the hands ye coordination is

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<v Speaker 3>just way better when you're younger, and therefore, by the

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<v Speaker 3>time you're twenty seven twenty eight, you're not quite at

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<v Speaker 3>your peak because as you were when you say eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty one, Now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when everything starts falling apart, is what you're telling me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm way past that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm with you in this, okay. So now in Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a live event with a live audience, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're selling tickets to this event.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, correct, So down down on the MNGN beautiful venue,

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of people have bought to I think we're sold out,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think there might be a few still to get.

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<v Speaker 3>But ultimately the app you know, the noise is large, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because people are very excited about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So who's your audience. Who's your audience?

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<v Speaker 3>These are going to be, you know, demographic of eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty five male female love the game. They're really

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<v Speaker 3>into this particular game. They're following it or they're particularly

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<v Speaker 3>following a team. Right. What we shouldn't forget is there

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<v Speaker 3>is actually a local team from New England. Oxygen Esports

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<v Speaker 3>their calls right. They've made it all the way through

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<v Speaker 3>to the final stages of this event, which is unheard

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<v Speaker 3>of for them. And there are I think four or

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<v Speaker 3>five North American teams that have got this far, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but the locals are clearly going to be cheering on Oxygen.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're there mostly because they love the game, they

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<v Speaker 3>love the spectacle.

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<v Speaker 2>So all in all, how many teams are? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this has got to be a competition that builds from

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Friday, Saturday, Sunday Valentine's Day, the fifteenth, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Saturday in the sixteenth, which is Sunday, how many

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<v Speaker 2>teams start? It's sort of like the NBA Playoffs of

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<v Speaker 2>the NHL playoffs. You start with maybe sixteen teams, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course it takes three months to the playoffs. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA and the NHL, until you get to the

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<v Speaker 2>championship series. You guys are going to do this in

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<v Speaker 2>three days.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, correct? But what we shouldn't forget there are sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>teams that have got this far. But what we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>forget is actually one hundreds and hundreds of teams have

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<v Speaker 3>been through the process of qualifying to get here, right,

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<v Speaker 3>regional corner tournaments from around the world, in all four

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<v Speaker 3>corners of the clos Right, It's actually taken all year

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<v Speaker 3>to reach this pinnacle moment that will come to a

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<v Speaker 3>head in Boston next weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>As you say, what's the grand prize? I know that

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<v Speaker 2>there's some serious prize money.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, there's three million bucks on the line, but the

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<v Speaker 3>winners take a million dollars time with them, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a serious amount of cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a million dollars are split between your team members,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, you know, four or five members of the team.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to take that home and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be had a bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not if you win it. It's certainly not a

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<v Speaker 2>bad weekend's work, that's for sure. There's no question about that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know offhand with this Oxygen team is from

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<v Speaker 2>this New England team? Are they like spread across the

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<v Speaker 2>landscape or are they from one community that we can identify?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so this is a group of people that actually

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<v Speaker 3>are the mix of players from There are actually two

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<v Speaker 3>Brazilian players in this team, and then there are three

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<v Speaker 3>American players in the team. And you know, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's actually a strong cohort of Brazilians who are

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<v Speaker 3>living in Boston and South understand, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>come out and force to support these two Brazilian players

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<v Speaker 3>in the team. This happens to be a game where

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<v Speaker 3>the Brazilian audiences have a very strong propensity to play it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other three players, and one of them

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<v Speaker 3>in particular is a local from the region, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think everyone's going to be cheering for that individual and

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably in a serving crowd for that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, Bobby, I appreciate the information. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to give us a website where people can get

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<v Speaker 2>more information on this event, either to go and attend

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<v Speaker 2>or to follow it and learn more about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they need to just go on to Rainbow six,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the game, and they'll be able to ord

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<v Speaker 3>Uve yourseft and they'll be able to get a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch more informational ticket mister, if they want to get

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<v Speaker 3>a ticket at the last minute, or come down to

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<v Speaker 3>the MGM and they'll just have a great time. So thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for time, Dan, I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, And I know it's quite late, probably you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably after one I am, So it's Saturday, morning over

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<v Speaker 2>there already.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all good. It's the end of the week

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll have the beginning of the weekend now. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've enjoyed speaking to you, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope by time I assume you'll be here

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<v Speaker 2>next weekend, I hopefully the snow will be plowed away

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll have temperatures in the mid sixties or seventies

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be great. It will make the loading of

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<v Speaker 3>the venue easier and the load out easier as well,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm looking forward to that for the operational reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Robbie Duick, CEO of BLAST, appreciate your time tonight. We

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<v Speaker 2>learned a lot from you and we'll follow on. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you much, thank you when we get back. And to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Special Olympics. New Hampshire, they have a big

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<v Speaker 2>event this weekend. It's called the Penguin Plunge. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Penguin Plunge weekend that we're eighth and ninth at Hampton Beach,

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<v Speaker 2>benefits benefiting Special Olympics. I suspect if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>take a little swim, we have an opportunity for you

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<v Speaker 2>if you stick with us. My name's Dan Ray. This

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<v Speaker 2>is night Side on a Friday night, February seventh. We

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<v Speaker 2>will be here all the way, virtually all the way

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<v Speaker 2>till midnight. Hope you'll stick with us. We have some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting conversations you can participate. We have some more interesting

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<v Speaker 2>interviews coming up, not only going to talk about special

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics New Hampshire, but we'll also give you a way

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<v Speaker 2>to fix your marriage without counseling, a practical method we're

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<v Speaker 2>told men will appreciate. We'll see about that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk with the former wife of Apollo

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen astronaut Edgar Mitchell. She has written a book which

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<v Speaker 2>is called You Don't Look Like an Astronaut's Wife. But

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<v Speaker 2>she is remarkable stories in Riveting in her riveting new

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<v Speaker 2>memoir You Don't Look like an Astronaut's Wife. He, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, is the sixth person to walk on the

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<v Speaker 2>face of the moon. He is he passed a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, but his wife will be here with us

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<v Speaker 2>later on during this hour back on Nightside. Right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Put to welcome back Mark Erickson. He's the multi media

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<v Speaker 2>manager for Special Olympics New Hampshire which has a very

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<v Speaker 2>active Special Olympics group, and I guess this weekend the

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<v Speaker 2>Penguin Plunge takes center stage in the Granite State mark

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<v Speaker 2>ericson Welcome back to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you sir, goody evening, Happy Friday night, Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. I think you've been with us a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times before, and so again you do great work up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about the Penguin Plunge. It looks to me

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<v Speaker 2>it's February eighth and ninth, which of course would be

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and Sunday. Don't tell me. People have to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in the water for two days.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no. And it's kind of an interesting

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<v Speaker 5>story on that one. About seventeen years ago we stage

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<v Speaker 5>everything in the Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom, and about seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>years ago the event started to grow large enough that

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<v Speaker 5>we were exceeding the capacity of the ballroom and that's

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<v Speaker 5>when we decided to split Saturday off as a high

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<v Speaker 5>school event. We got the New Hampshire Interscholastic Athletic Association involved,

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<v Speaker 5>so the schools themselves compete against one another and this

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<v Speaker 5>weekend is the largest single fundraising weekend for Special Olympics

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<v Speaker 5>New Hampshire all year long. It's that's the tone for

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<v Speaker 5>the whole rest of the year. So tomorrow a little

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<v Speaker 5>more than four hundred. Right now, the computer says four

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and six high schoolers plan on plunging at Hampton

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<v Speaker 5>Beach from all different schools all across the state. And

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<v Speaker 5>then on Sunday, six hundred and thirty penguin plungers will

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<v Speaker 5>be hitting the water at Hampton Beach. It is the

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<v Speaker 5>seventeenth annual High School Plunge and this year will mark

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<v Speaker 5>the twenty sixth annual Penguin Plunge.

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<v Speaker 2>So in all, one thousand, little over one thousand brave

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<v Speaker 2>souls will dip more than their toes into the Atlantic Ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're telling me.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what is registered and signed up.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>As you know, we've got some weather on the way

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<v Speaker 5>Saturday night and into Sunday, so we have taken to

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<v Speaker 5>social media and to our website to let people know. Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>if you think it's a little too dicey for you

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<v Speaker 5>to be driving to Hampton Beach, because people do come

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<v Speaker 5>from all over the state, then we're saying you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to do it. We've set up a way that

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<v Speaker 5>if you've raised the money and you've done it online,

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<v Speaker 5>we've already got that. And if you still have some

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<v Speaker 5>funds that need to come to us, you can drop

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<v Speaker 5>them off at any TD Bank branch in the state

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<v Speaker 5>of New Hampshire and they will find their way to

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<v Speaker 5>us and whatever premium items you qualified for, we will

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<v Speaker 5>deliver it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's deal with the fund. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll raise with these these two events, one again

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<v Speaker 2>for high school kids and the and the rest for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, older folks. What do you what do you

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<v Speaker 2>hope to raise this weekend?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we would we would like to get somewhere near

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<v Speaker 5>the million dollar mark. Uh. Not sure whether we can

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<v Speaker 5>do that in one weekend or not, we are certainly

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<v Speaker 5>going to give it a try. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 5>that I think Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Would set I assumed that would set a record mark

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<v Speaker 2>for for Special Olympics New Hampshire if you could, uh

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<v Speaker 2>for the for the Penguin Plunge raise a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the Penguin Plunge weekend last year did just about that.

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<v Speaker 5>And and let me explain that to you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got various systems in place where some money trickles

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<v Speaker 5>in after the fact. So it's one of those situations

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<v Speaker 5>that when the weekend itself and we aren't sure exactly

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<v Speaker 5>how much money really the event came got us until

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of weeks later.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's a big The point is it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big fundraising event. How many are yeah, how many Special

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic athletes? How many Special Olympians does New Hampshire Special

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics serve over.

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<v Speaker 5>The post COVID post COVID We're at about twenty seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>They're in all ten counties in the state. They are

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<v Speaker 5>spread across about seventy local programs run by volunteers all

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<v Speaker 5>across the state and ninety school based programs. And the

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<v Speaker 5>great thing about the Penguin Plunge weekend is every single

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<v Speaker 5>penny that is made this weekend stays right here in

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. And if there are people who are listening who

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<v Speaker 2>maybe haven't signed up, but they'd like to support Special

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics on New Hampshire, is there a way in which

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<v Speaker 2>they can contact you easily? Either through the mail. How

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<v Speaker 2>can folks who are listening tonight and admire the work

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing. What can they do to help well?

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<v Speaker 5>I will tell you that so O NH dot org

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<v Speaker 5>is in Special Olympics New Hampshire. So O NH dot

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<v Speaker 5>very top of the homepage, we have the Penguin Plunge

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<v Speaker 5>and if you click on that, you have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>to make a donation. And I will be straight up

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<v Speaker 5>with you on this dan. We are a little light

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<v Speaker 5>on volunteers for the weekend. We've got the opportunity for

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<v Speaker 5>some folks to come out and help us out. And

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<v Speaker 5>not every job is outside. We have a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>tasks that are inside both the Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom

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<v Speaker 5>as well as the Ashworth Hotel, which is where we

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<v Speaker 5>do all of our registration and all of our paperwork.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are plenty of inside jobs that need to

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<v Speaker 5>be young by volunteers and we still have room for

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<v Speaker 5>plenty more volunteers. So you can go to s O

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<v Speaker 5>That's a wonderful thing for the programs and athletes or

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<v Speaker 5>Special Olympics New Hampshire. But if you have some time

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<v Speaker 5>and want to have a little fun between the hours

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<v Speaker 5>of say nine am and two pm, either Saturday or Sunday,

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<v Speaker 5>we are done by two o'clock in the afternoon. So

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<v Speaker 5>no worries about missing any football games on Sunday evening,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll take any volunteers that want to help.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a football game Sunday night?

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<v Speaker 5>I heard something about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, the Patriots are not in that one.

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<v Speaker 5>Though, I don't no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, no problem. I just wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that I was I was aware of what you were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. You only joking, obviously, So even if what

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<v Speaker 2>lives south or northeast of New Hampshire, people who are

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<v Speaker 2>close to Hampton Beach in northeastern Massachusetts or in southeastern Maine,

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<v Speaker 2>they can come across state lines also volunteer and help

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<v Speaker 2>that There's no obligation to be a New Hampshire resident

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<v Speaker 2>to help this weekend the Penguin Plunge. All right, great Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you got some good information out and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be able to wrestle up a few more volunteers

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<v Speaker 2>for you a great cause. Thanks very much, best of

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<v Speaker 2>luck and are you jumping in the ocean yourself or no.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've been associated with this event for twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five of it's twenty six years, and I did that

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<v Speaker 5>about a dozen times over the course of the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five years. I've done it about twelve times, but at

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<v Speaker 5>some point my cardiologist put a stop to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll continue your streak this year of not jumping

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<v Speaker 2>into the Atlantic not jumping in which is commended to

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<v Speaker 2>the streak alive. Okay, good enough, Thanks Mark, you just

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<v Speaker 2>having fun with you. That's all very great one. Congratulations,

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<v Speaker 2>Say hi to all the Olympians for us here on

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<v Speaker 2>night Side. When we get back, right after the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with a very interesting gentlemen who's a licensed licensed clinical

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<v Speaker 2>worker and a marriage counselor. He's written a book, Fix

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<v Speaker 2>Your Marriage Without Counseling, A Practical Method from method men

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<v Speaker 2>will appreciate. It's an intriguing title. We'll be talking with

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<v Speaker 2>Ziba Graham right after the news at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the arm. This is Dan Ray. This is Nightside w BZ, Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston's news radio ten thirty and your AM dial.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's an intriguing guest with an interesting book. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>delighted to welcome, Ziba Graham Zba. Okay, I got it right, easy,

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<v Speaker 2>last name to pronounce. You're a licensed clinical social worker

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<v Speaker 2>and a marriage counselor, as I understand as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay uh. And you have done this for some time,

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently as a result of the positive results that

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that you have achieved, you've written a book

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<v Speaker 2>with an interesting title, Your Marriage without Counseling, a practical

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<v Speaker 2>method men will appreciate. I suspect there's probably some female

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<v Speaker 2>listeners tonight are saying, well, why is it that men

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<v Speaker 2>will appreciate this? Tell us about it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, because men are a lot of times the last

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<v Speaker 6>one to find out something's wrong. That's a simple explanation

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<v Speaker 6>for that. But I tell you what, Dan, this has

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<v Speaker 6>been a very interesting journey for me. I started out,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, marriage counseling, and thought, boy, I want to

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<v Speaker 6>having any Look, I don't know, it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 6>certain long time, and so all I have to do

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<v Speaker 6>is find out what really works. And what I've found

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<v Speaker 6>out is the most important question that I could ever ask,

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<v Speaker 6>and that is, on a scale of one to ten,

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<v Speaker 6>where's your marriage now? With the one being the worst

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<v Speaker 6>ever and ten being the best ever. Well, if they came,

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<v Speaker 6>if they came in to see me, they were probably

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<v Speaker 6>about a four. And then I would ask them more

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<v Speaker 6>maybe a seven or an eight. And then how willing

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<v Speaker 6>are you to do your part? And so right away,

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<v Speaker 6>and I knew exactly where they stood, and they know

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<v Speaker 6>would keep asking them questions, so like, what could you

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<v Speaker 6>So what could he do to help you go up

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<v Speaker 6>maybe help Billy with his homework, or put gas in

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, I realized that they really knew what

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<v Speaker 6>and so what would happen is And then I would

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<v Speaker 6>ask both of them, what could you do to help

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<v Speaker 6>yourself go up? What can your spouse do to help

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<v Speaker 6>help me go up? And it was just amazing because

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<v Speaker 6>already in them, and it was more important for me

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<v Speaker 6>for years and I was having really good results. After

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<v Speaker 6>about two or three sessions, they would start moving up

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, if I could just interject for a second,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's a very interesting approach, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like what I think most of us understand

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<v Speaker 2>to be the Socratic method, where you're asking questions they

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be open ended questions. But you basically with

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<v Speaker 2>your questions are leading them to the solution, which is

427
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<v Speaker 2>pretty brilliant approach. And I mean that's seriously when I

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<v Speaker 2>say that, almost do the same thing with with your children.

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<v Speaker 2>If the children used to behave uh if you say

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<v Speaker 2>to the child, if you just yell at the kid,

431
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<v Speaker 2>they that's not going to help them. But but if

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<v Speaker 2>you say, now, you know, why did you do that?

433
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<v Speaker 2>You know what why? You know? Why did why did

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<v Speaker 2>you drop that glass on the floor, It looked to

435
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<v Speaker 2>me like did you do that intentionally?

436
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<v Speaker 1>You know?

437
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<v Speaker 2>And that people will be honest with you. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty good. How long have you been using this

439
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<v Speaker 2>pretty straightforward method. It's like, we all know what's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>We just have a difficult time communicating. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest problem that most people have. And you help

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<v Speaker 2>them communicate.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh exactly. And and you're right, that is kind of

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<v Speaker 6>the socratic method. But and then, but the thing that

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<v Speaker 6>I've found out, Dan, is that people were used in

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<v Speaker 6>this scientific method and that doesn't work because the scientific method,

447
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<v Speaker 6>first thing they ask is they go to the past

448
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<v Speaker 6>and they look for weaknesses, you know, and you can't

449
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<v Speaker 6>solve people problems by doing that, it just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to go to this other method because the

451
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<v Speaker 6>answers are already in the couple and you're just helping

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<v Speaker 6>them tease out those answers. And so it was just

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<v Speaker 6>so rewarding for me because when they said to me,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I think we're good now. And then when

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<v Speaker 6>I retired, I wrote this book and it's got all

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<v Speaker 6>that information in it, just how to do it and

457
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<v Speaker 6>why the other stuff doesn't work, and this works great.

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<v Speaker 6>So I thought to myself, I thought, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>just asked the questions, the answers are in them. I'll

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<v Speaker 6>just put the quat questions in this book and explains

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<v Speaker 6>how it works. And boy, it's really been amazing, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's helped us. And then really, if you think about

463
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<v Speaker 6>why people split, it's because little stuff just gets bigger

464
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<v Speaker 6>and bigger and bigger, you know, and then things happen

465
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<v Speaker 6>and people get sick and people die or something happens,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's just the marriage is not strong enough to

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<v Speaker 6>get through that. So this way, you know, if if

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<v Speaker 6>the couple would ask themselves once a month, where are

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<v Speaker 6>you on the scale, and if if your spouse says well,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a four. That's a danger signal if you can,

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<v Speaker 6>if you can stay around seven and a half or eight,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to have a fifty five year marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there aren't too many, too many tens out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You get my drift, drift? So how do how do people?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, how is your book doing? Is it?

477
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<v Speaker 2>Is it recently? Outers have been out.

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<v Speaker 6>For a while, well just a few months, so so

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<v Speaker 6>it's just kind of getting started. But I've been doing

480
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<v Speaker 6>a lot of radio shows and some zoom interviews, and

481
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<v Speaker 6>you know, I do a speaker's bureau on it, and

482
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<v Speaker 6>and then I've got a website. And the website is

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<v Speaker 6>fix your Marriage Book dot com. Fix your Marriage Book.

484
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<v Speaker 2>And that's yeah, fix your Marriage Book dot com. That

485
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<v Speaker 2>is a nice, simple direct site that most people can find. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the book has been out a few months, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? A? I got a sense from from just

488
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<v Speaker 2>talking to you that it's probably a pretty easy book

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<v Speaker 2>to absorb.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really easy. It's it's one hundred and fifty pages,

491
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<v Speaker 6>huge type you can read in an hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>And makes it well that's important.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, look, yeah, people.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get you can you can read these books

495
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<v Speaker 2>that are seven hundred pages long and they're philosophical and

496
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<v Speaker 2>their foot noted and and you know, and it's you

497
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<v Speaker 2>just you gloss over. But on something like this, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds to me like you ship it to people that

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<v Speaker 2>get it within two or three days and then they

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<v Speaker 2>go a little bit of work. And look, marriages are tough.

501
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, they're not Yeah, they're not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a guest on last night who was a

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<v Speaker 2>former governor of Wisconsin. His name was Marty Schreiber. He

504
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<v Speaker 2>was the governor of Wisconsin in the late seventies, and

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<v Speaker 2>his wife dealt with Alzheimer's for the last twenty years

506
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<v Speaker 2>of her life. She passed a couple of long years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy came across as the most supportive husband

508
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<v Speaker 2>that you could ever imagine, who has dealt a horrific hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And the name of his book, which you might want

510
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<v Speaker 2>to just check out because I thought he was really interesting,

511
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<v Speaker 2>called My Two Elaens. His wife's name obviously was Elaine,

512
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the Lane that he fell in love

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<v Speaker 2>with and they lived most of his life with, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the Elaine who who disappeared in this you know,

515
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<v Speaker 2>horrific Cloud of dementia. Uh. It's interesting. We had two

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<v Speaker 2>books which I think will help people, uh, in two

517
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<v Speaker 2>different sets of circumstances. And I really like your approach.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. I think that communication and if you

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<v Speaker 2>need a third party to expedite the communication like you

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<v Speaker 2>do and have done, that's great. If not, they get

521
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<v Speaker 2>the book and they can sit with each other and

522
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<v Speaker 2>they can say, Okay, you know, where do you think

523
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<v Speaker 2>we stand? Here's how I feel, Here's how you feel,

524
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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing, and uh, And I love I

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<v Speaker 2>always love the idea of a scale of one to

526
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<v Speaker 2>ten because everybody gets the bell curve. Everybody understands, you know,

527
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<v Speaker 2>five is like the middle and anything better than five

528
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<v Speaker 2>is okay. Going the other way, you're going the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appre she sh had your time tonight, Zaba

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<v Speaker 2>give you long eyes, okay, Graham, Yeah, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your time tonight. Invest of luck with you book. You've

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<v Speaker 2>been a very interesting guest.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Dan, I enjoyed talking with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care of right back at you. Okay, we get back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk to the former wife, the widow,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. Of Apollo fourteen. Astronaut Edgar Mitchell. Edgar

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell was the sixth astronaut to walk on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>She has written a book which essentially is you Don't

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<v Speaker 2>look like an Astronaut's wife. Uh and she I think

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to be an interesting guest as well. That

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<v Speaker 2>she will round out our fourth guest tonight, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to talking with her. Anita Mitchell will join

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<v Speaker 2>us author and owner president of the Mitchell Group back

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<v Speaker 2>on Night Side after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World

546
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<v Speaker 1>Night Signs to on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to welcome my next guest, Anita Mitchell. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>former wife of Apollo fourteen astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who passed

549
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<v Speaker 2>away a few years ago. Edgar Mitchell was the sixth

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<v Speaker 2>astronaut to walk on the Moon. I don't know that

551
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<v Speaker 2>there have been many astronauts who walked on the moon

552
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<v Speaker 2>after astronaut Mitchell. Was he the last to walk on

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<v Speaker 2>the moon? Anita? If I could he.

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<v Speaker 7>No, thank you, No, he was right in the middle.

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<v Speaker 7>There were six flights to the Moon and ed Flu

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<v Speaker 7>with Albert Shepherd, Allen Shepherd, who was already very well known,

557
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<v Speaker 7>and SUSA, and they were numbers number there was a

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<v Speaker 7>third flight. They flew right after Apollo thirteen, which put

559
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<v Speaker 7>me making Apollo fourteen a real finger crosser because that

560
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<v Speaker 7>was going to make or break the rest of the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt. Alan Shepherd was from New Hampshire. We

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<v Speaker 2>all knew of him. Yeah, yeah, the early astronauts.

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<v Speaker 6>So he was in space actually was yes, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, first off, I guess after it was a Eurie gigar,

565
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<v Speaker 2>and if if I recall.

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<v Speaker 7>Correctly, well yeah, first first in American space. He was

567
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<v Speaker 7>on the Redstone rocket. I always think as I was

568
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<v Speaker 7>loaded the cape for a long time and saw that

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<v Speaker 7>little thing sitting out there, you could have taken a

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<v Speaker 7>a can opener and made a hole in it. That

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<v Speaker 7>was that. That rocket went to to the school. My

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<v Speaker 7>kids went to school, to elementary school and the name

573
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<v Speaker 7>of the school of s Freedom seven and they had

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<v Speaker 7>the rocket sitting in front of it in Cocoa Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Not bad. So you have written a book you don't

576
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<v Speaker 2>look like an astronaut's wife, and it recounts remarkable stories

577
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<v Speaker 2>and rivet this riveting new memoir. I I took the

578
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<v Speaker 2>liberty of checking you out a little bit here, and

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<v Speaker 2>you certainly have had had a. You've had a very

580
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<v Speaker 2>interesting life being involved in all sorts of media government.

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<v Speaker 2>I even noticed that that at one point you were

582
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<v Speaker 2>doing a thirty minute talk show at one point early

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<v Speaker 2>in your career.

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<v Speaker 7>So, uh, and I'm doing a podcast, an hour podcast still,

585
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<v Speaker 7>you know.

586
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<v Speaker 2>Anita, I do four hours a night, five nights a week.

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<v Speaker 7>So oh no, I do I do once week for

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<v Speaker 7>an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's okay, that's that's okay. If I get retired,

590
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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll do that. But now I'm on twenty hours

591
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<v Speaker 2>a week. And uh, I take probably forty hours to

592
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<v Speaker 2>prep the show. Uh, you know, every every every week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a lot of work. People don't realize. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know more about your book. Tell us,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us more about the book. And and and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there some stories in here, says, remarkable stories in

597
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<v Speaker 2>a riveting new memoir. So open open up a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of pages for us. Up. We don't expect you to

599
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<v Speaker 2>give away the whole book, but I want to have

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<v Speaker 2>you given up.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually I'm happy too, And a person I want to

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<v Speaker 7>buy it. They can go to my website, which is

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<v Speaker 7>www dot Anita ka Middlely just k Mitchell dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, here's a tip that that that www stuff

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<v Speaker 2>don't even worry about. It's just Anita kmtchell dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and just just as quick that www thing, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even worry about that anymore. So Anita Kmitchell dot com

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about the book.

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<v Speaker 4>You good plub thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>The book started because a reporter at the Palm Beach

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<v Speaker 7>Post by the name of Dan moffatt Uh. He was

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<v Speaker 7>the sports editor, and I was on the sports commission,

615
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<v Speaker 7>and ultimately he became an editor of the major paper.

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<v Speaker 7>But we talked about ten minutes of sports and he

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<v Speaker 7>had followed ed and I because we believed here a

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<v Speaker 7>long time in bumbag, and he would ask a question

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<v Speaker 7>and it seems as though you asked me a question,

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<v Speaker 7>I've got a story. So we did this for about

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<v Speaker 7>a year. I met once a month, and one day

622
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<v Speaker 7>he came and we were meeting and he said, neat

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<v Speaker 7>write a book. And I laughed. I said, I don't

624
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<v Speaker 7>think I've been done it to write a book about.

625
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<v Speaker 7>And he said, no needed is found about you, but

626
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<v Speaker 7>your stories are priceless. And he kept it up and

627
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<v Speaker 7>kept it up and did an overview and sent it

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<v Speaker 7>to a few people, and that was like five years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>And lo and behold, a collaborator called me and we're

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<v Speaker 7>on our way to releasing the book. Munch that I continued,

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<v Speaker 7>And so the book's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the book is not out yet. Okay, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So just give us, give us an overview. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 2>met a lot of people along the pathway of life,

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell from the pictures that are on your website.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us a story or two which will wet people's

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<v Speaker 2>appetite happy too.

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<v Speaker 7>First of all, you have to know that I'm from

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<v Speaker 7>a very small town in Ohio and Dina, Ohio. I've

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<v Speaker 7>town of maybe three four thousand people at the time

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<v Speaker 7>outside of Cleveland. And the chance of me marrying who

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<v Speaker 7>sikes me on the walk on the is an anomaly

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<v Speaker 7>for one thing. And who introduced us was Mickey Mouse.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think that's why Dan thought there was a

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<v Speaker 7>story here. And you know ed Ed was a very

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<v Speaker 7>accomplished Not only was he a test bitlet a fighter pilot,

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<v Speaker 7>but he had two PhDs he helped He's a lunar commander,

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<v Speaker 7>lunar module commander on Apollo fourteen, and then he did

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<v Speaker 7>the ESP experiments on the moon. And so that was

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<v Speaker 7>the journey for a girl from Ohio that was really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 7>I met Ed after the year after he had flown,

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<v Speaker 7>and he spent the rest of his career, as he

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<v Speaker 7>puts it, exploring from the eyeball out. And he brought

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<v Speaker 7>Uri Geller here from Israel and studied his psych capabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Be spoons, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And actually that's when Dan got my attention, because I

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<v Speaker 7>kept saying, Dan, you know I don't can't write about

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<v Speaker 7>He said, Nita, how many people have wonder Von Braun,

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<v Speaker 7>Rob Surling, an arch c Clark, and Uri Geller and

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<v Speaker 7>a dinner at your house while URI's spoons. And I said, well, well,

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<v Speaker 7>I guess that is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you kept them away from the good silverware.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my only concern in.

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<v Speaker 7>But Ed Brown in here and studying in that Standford

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<v Speaker 7>Research Institute, which is one of the world's greatest thing tanks,

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<v Speaker 7>and as.

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<v Speaker 2>The girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>In the lab and want some amazing things. Trying to

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<v Speaker 4>explain it to my poor mother and dad back in

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<v Speaker 4>the Dinah was a chore. It was my mother couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>quite get her head around the psychic part. The journey

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<v Speaker 4>was an interesting one and I learned so much because

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<v Speaker 4>Ed explored everything the fruits, the nuts, the flakes, and

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<v Speaker 4>the great physicists of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>To also as I understood it, I just did a

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<v Speaker 2>quick little research. He believed that about eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the items that they now call they used to call

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<v Speaker 2>them UFOs. They have a different terminology, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>did different, different phrase, no longer unidentified flying objects, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was a sort of a metaphor, sort of another phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't think of it for a moment, but

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<v Speaker 2>he believes that about eighty percent of those sightings were

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<v Speaker 2>actually visitors from out of space.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 7>And one of the interesting stories early in my marriage

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<v Speaker 7>to Ed, he did the Larry King Show in New

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<v Speaker 7>York when he was on radio, and Larry was on

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<v Speaker 7>radio and I was in the green room while he

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<v Speaker 7>was on the air, and another couple came into the

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<v Speaker 7>green room who was going on made the guest next,

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<v Speaker 7>and they came in with an item that had a

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<v Speaker 7>blanket over it and married.

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<v Speaker 4>Very long to edge. So this is all pretty new.

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<v Speaker 7>And they took the blanket off and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>what is that?

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<v Speaker 4>They said, well, this is.

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<v Speaker 7>A model of the alien that abducted us.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, it's right.

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<v Speaker 6>You know I was braved.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the deal in Nita, I'm flat out of time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know from radio. We got to give that now.

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<v Speaker 2>People got to read the book. That's a great story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's Anita Kmitchell dot com. Simple as that. Get

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<v Speaker 2>the book coming out, you said in March. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>best of luck with the book, and we may have

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<v Speaker 2>you back if you if you'd like to come on

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<v Speaker 2>after the book, come on for a few minutes after

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<v Speaker 2>the book is out and available, we'll be happy to

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<v Speaker 2>bring you back.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'd love to.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Anita, you've been a good sport. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. When we get back, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the latest on the snow that's coming in this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's going to be for real, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my sense. But I've sensed that for a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days the weather seems to be ready for a snowdrop.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on night's after the nine o'clock news
