Speaker 1: Welcome to Scouter Vision, a dragon ball podcast. I'm your host, Angela.
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Speaker 1: to be talked about all about Bardok, the father of Goku.
Speaker 1: There are two different stories to Bardock's lineage, and we'll
Speaker 1: get into both of them today. So let's hop in
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Speaker 2: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Today's topic Bardock, Father of Goku.
Speaker 2: Now there's two lineages, Like Angela said in the intro,
Speaker 2: you have the story of Bardock that was from the
Speaker 2: Father of Goku special that came out in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: or you have the beginning of the movie that we've
Speaker 2: seen in this Dragon Ball Super Broly movie, which shows.
Speaker 3: Two very different sides of Bardok.
Speaker 1: Yeah. First, like I'm kind of compare the two, Like
Speaker 1: you notice like little things that are different between the
Speaker 1: two of them, Like I guess like his personality kind of.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a bit of an ass.
Speaker 1: And he seems a little more harsh and like the
Speaker 1: Bardock special, But in Super Broly, he seems like he's
Speaker 1: like very caring about his family.
Speaker 3: Well, the early.
Speaker 2: The early depiction of Sayings were just you know, these
Speaker 2: these pirates that basically destroyed planets and then sold them
Speaker 2: off to the highest bidders. So, I mean all Sayings
Speaker 2: were pretty much savages back in the day. But we
Speaker 2: did see that different side in super We're gonna be
Speaker 2: talking about both sides. But let's get into the original
Speaker 2: bro Braley. Let's get into the original bar Dock. I
Speaker 2: should say, yeah, the original bar Dock, father of Goku's
Speaker 2: special that we've seen on dragon Ball Z. Because the
Speaker 2: Dragon Ball Z Bardock and the Dragon Ball Super Bardock,
Speaker 2: like we said, are two very different stories. So let's
Speaker 2: get into the original story.
Speaker 1: So we start out on planet Kanessa, and there we
Speaker 1: see Bardock with his team who consists of sagesh Pasha
Speaker 1: and Tora, and they're in the middle of a fight
Speaker 1: and they're in their great ape forms. However, they wake
Speaker 1: up the next day and Bardok is the only one
Speaker 1: that can remember him in his great ape form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually the sayings once they turn into their great
Speaker 2: ape form there Ozaru, they can't really, they just became
Speaker 2: like savages. They don't remember what happens during their great
Speaker 2: ape form, but.
Speaker 3: Apparently Bardok can mhm.
Speaker 2: And during the fight, well, during this little moment when
Speaker 2: they wake up, it looks like they're eating by a
Speaker 2: campfire and they're talking about destroying the planet Kanessa, and
Speaker 2: it is brought to our attention that they are on
Speaker 2: a mission from Freezer Lord Frisa to destroy this planet
Speaker 2: because there is some psychic abilities that the people of
Speaker 2: Knessa could tap into and I guess Friza saw that
Speaker 2: as a threat. Freeza is a very scared little boy,
Speaker 2: because every time he figured anything was a threat, he just.
Speaker 3: Took him out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he just kind of, yeah.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to fight, so it's like, hey, before
Speaker 2: I have to deal with this myself later on when
Speaker 2: they're too strong, let me just nip it into But
Speaker 2: like you said, so one.
Speaker 3: Of the people, well, I guess one of.
Speaker 2: The inhibitors of Planet Canessa, was still alive, and he
Speaker 2: gave Bardok his psychic ability. Not as a gift, but
Speaker 2: he gave Bardok his psychic ability, so Bardock could be
Speaker 2: haunted with the visions of how he meets his death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was kind of like a lesson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think he said, so you could hear.
Speaker 3: The screams or your death or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like basically like what the sayings are doing to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bardok he doesn't believe it at first. They
Speaker 2: killed this guy, the commander, and they go back to
Speaker 2: Planet Vegeta.
Speaker 3: It is brought to Freeze's attention from Zorba and the
Speaker 3: door always had ugly boys.
Speaker 1: Right, you have to do with each character. Yes, I
Speaker 1: gotta hold you to that, okay, So Friza was like, oh, Friza,
Speaker 1: I was I was about to do the impression.
Speaker 3: See now you got me self conscious.
Speaker 2: Friza was told by Dadoria and Zarbond that the planet
Speaker 2: Canessa was destroyed by some low class Saiyans, and Frisa
Speaker 2: was confused because he thought the planet Canessa was too
Speaker 2: strong to be taken over by low class Saiyans.
Speaker 3: And when it was brought to his attention that Bardok and.
Speaker 2: His team were the ones who destroyed the planet Knessa,
Speaker 2: he figured, I gotta stop Bardok and his team before
Speaker 2: they become too strong and try to overthrow their large Freeza.
Speaker 1: He probably thought they were gonna be defeated on planet Canessa.
Speaker 2: Probably so, which is it means he kind of set
Speaker 2: them up for failure sending them out there.
Speaker 3: Well, he's trying to slowly kill all the same anyway.
Speaker 2: This is where we see a little young prince Vegeta
Speaker 2: training with the Sableman and he wants to, you know,
Speaker 2: have stronger missions. So Zorban sends Vegeta out on a mission.
Speaker 2: So Vegeta is no longer on planet Vegeta. At the
Speaker 2: time along with Napa and Ratis. And on the way
Speaker 2: back to planet of Vegeta, we see Bardak having visions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's in the recovery pod, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the recovery pod. He's having visions of
Speaker 2: his son Goku or Kakarat. He's having visions of Kkara
Speaker 2: fighting Vegeta in the Sand Saga. He's having visions of
Speaker 2: you know, the happenings of dragon Ball, training with Masta Roshi,
Speaker 2: training with Krillin defeating Piccolo at the twenty third Annual.
Speaker 2: We see a lot of things where, you know, Bardak
Speaker 2: is having these visions, but he doesn't chalk it up
Speaker 2: to what the planet Kindessa, I guess the alien or
Speaker 2: the person for Planet Conessa gaves him. He doesn't see
Speaker 2: this as visions. He's just like, oh, this is just
Speaker 2: nightmares and dreams.
Speaker 1: Didn't he say he thinks the Cara could see it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because every time he would have a vision, Cakra
Speaker 2: would be crying, and then.
Speaker 1: That's how it was triggered, because he started crying and
Speaker 1: he heard him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he also saw Planet Vegeta getting destroyed
Speaker 2: numerous times in these visions.
Speaker 1: That was like the consistent vision that he had. So
Speaker 1: Friza wants to eliminate Bardok and his team obviously, so
Speaker 1: he sends them all the planet meat and then there
Speaker 1: it was Di Doria and his team.
Speaker 3: Well da Dooria and the Freezer Force.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were there waiting and then they end up
Speaker 1: massacring his whole team.
Speaker 2: By the way, you know, we know members of the
Speaker 2: Freezer Force like Quei and of course the Doria and Zorbon.
Speaker 2: But we were watching captions on and some of these
Speaker 2: Freezer Force members had the weirdest things. Like one was green,
Speaker 2: they called them Greenhead. The other one had horns. They
Speaker 2: called them horn Horn Guy, Horn Guy. There was one
Speaker 2: other one.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it is, but when you need
Speaker 1: the captions, it's like they don't have actual names. My
Speaker 1: name is.
Speaker 3: Horn Guy anyway.
Speaker 2: So Bardok he goes to the plane and meet and
Speaker 2: sees that his team was already pretty much destroyed. Fasha, Sagesh,
Speaker 2: and Tora being the last one, were destroyed by Dadoria
Speaker 2: and the Freezer Force. Bardok now wants revenge. He sees
Speaker 2: that the Freezer Force looks at Sayings as a threat.
Speaker 2: Now he's starting to realize that these visions are true.
Speaker 2: Frieza is going to eradicate Planet Vegeta because he sees
Speaker 2: them as a threat. He doesn't want them to get
Speaker 2: too strong in an overrun Friza's empire. So Bardok takes
Speaker 2: you know, one of the most iconic moments is Bardok
Speaker 2: takes a rag filled with the blood of his team
Speaker 2: and raps on his head and starts fighting back against
Speaker 2: the Freezer Force and was holding his own until the
Speaker 2: Doria blasted him away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now Bardok.
Speaker 2: Is in rough, rough shape. Da Dooria thinks that he
Speaker 2: killed Bardok. He goes back to He goes back to
Speaker 2: Friza and reports that Bardok's team has been eradicated, But
Speaker 2: Friza tells the Doria that Bardok is still alive.
Speaker 3: Was Yeah, tells Freeza that Bardok is still alive.
Speaker 2: So now Friza said, if he took Dadoria's best shot
Speaker 2: and still is alive, we cannot keep the Sayans around.
Speaker 2: So Friza decides he's going to take his ship and
Speaker 2: head to Planet Vegeta and they're going to destroy Planet
Speaker 2: of Vegeta.
Speaker 3: Yep, the whole division Division's.
Speaker 2: Coming through and it's happening pretty quick. The meantime, we
Speaker 2: have Bardok heading back to Planet Vegeta to warn the
Speaker 2: other Saians and when he gets there, he is told
Speaker 2: that Cakara, his son, was shipped out to a planet.
Speaker 3: What was that planet?
Speaker 1: According to them, it's planning Earth.
Speaker 2: He shipped out to a a weak planet called Earth,
Speaker 2: which is Earth in order to leave Plant Vegeta, because
Speaker 2: that's what they would do. They would ship out their
Speaker 2: uh saying kids to planets to overtake them, and then
Speaker 2: the Sands would come later on to you know, take
Speaker 2: over the planet and sell it to the highest bidders.
Speaker 1: You forgot to mention, though he didn't realize it at
Speaker 1: the time, but they crossed, they crossed paths, and then
Speaker 1: he had more visions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more visions, and it was visions of Goku telling
Speaker 2: his dad, you could stop this. Don't be like Freezer.
Speaker 2: You could stop this, dad, father, don't be like Freezer.
Speaker 2: And that's when we see Bardok basically become a saying
Speaker 2: asshole to here and says if nobody here is going
Speaker 2: to help me stop Freezer while Freeze's on his way
Speaker 2: and all the other Sands don't believe him that Freeze
Speaker 2: is there to destroy them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because once he gets there, he's all like in
Speaker 1: rough shape because like the door hit him with that
Speaker 1: big blast and everything. But he was trying to warn
Speaker 1: everyone and everyone's just laughing at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he says, I'm going to go stop Freezer myself.
Speaker 2: Because we see Freezer ship pull up. Bardak goes right
Speaker 2: into the sky to stop Frieza. A billion freaking and
Speaker 2: Freezer Force members comes out the ship.
Speaker 3: It looks like a seahorse having babies.
Speaker 1: In comparison. So anyway, Bardak is holding his own right
Speaker 1: against the Freezer Force and everyone, and he ends up
Speaker 1: calling out Frieza. Freeza comes out and then he uses
Speaker 1: the death Ball and not only eliminates like all of
Speaker 1: the Freezer Force that's out there, but Bardak and Planet Vegeta.
Speaker 1: And it's like the same move that we saw on
Speaker 1: Planet Namic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Freeze destroys Plant Vegeta, Bardock and half his
Speaker 2: team on one swoop and that's the end of the movie.
Speaker 2: It is then a trans scripture went back to to Vegeta, who.
Speaker 3: Was out in a mission.
Speaker 2: They said, oh, you're your planning was hit by a
Speaker 2: large meteor and it was eliminated. Yeah, and he said,
Speaker 2: I have nothing to say about that anyway. So that's
Speaker 2: one story of Bardok. In the end of that special,
Speaker 2: we see Goku land on Earth and Grandpa Gohan find
Speaker 2: him in the forest and basically, you know, take him
Speaker 2: in as his own right.
Speaker 1: It was key you got to see him find Goku.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we had that story.
Speaker 2: When we come back to this commercial break, we're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about the dragon Ball super story of Bardock
Speaker 2: because it's very different.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone, So let's get into dragon Ball supers
Speaker 1: depiction of Barnock. But it happens to be pretty different
Speaker 1: in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So in the beginning of the dragon Ball Super Broly movie,
Speaker 2: which by the way, we will have an episode dedicated
Speaker 2: to that movie because it is an amazing movie.
Speaker 3: We might even do a watch along special. That'll be
Speaker 3: awesome too, fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So in this beginning of that movie, we see
Speaker 2: King Cold the Cold Force because at the time his
Speaker 2: son Frizo wasn't appointed as Lord. So we've seen King Cold,
Speaker 2: the Guinea Force, the Freezer Force, the Dria Zarbon and
Speaker 2: a young Friezer showed up to planet.
Speaker 3: Vegeta where they were greeted by They were greeted.
Speaker 2: By Prince Prince Vegeta, King Vegeta, and they basically tell
Speaker 2: the Sayings that King Cold is stepping down as the king.
Speaker 1: And they got to listen to Lord Frizo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now his young son, Friza is the new lord
Speaker 2: of the Galaxy of the Cosmos and they have to
Speaker 2: listen to Frieza. Friza then gives them scouters, and you know,
Speaker 2: we got the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing with Broley.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Broley stuff later on, right, But
Speaker 2: we see that Broley is sent to another planet because
Speaker 2: his power level is too high and Prince of King
Speaker 2: Bageta doesn't want a low class saying being stronger than
Speaker 2: his son, so he sends him away and exiles him,
Speaker 2: and then everything with Para gets but we do see Bardok,
Speaker 2: who has a feeling that Friza is going to look
Speaker 2: at the Sayings as a threat, kind of like the
Speaker 2: movie that we just talked about, And when he has
Speaker 2: this feeling that Friza is going to come back to
Speaker 2: kill all the Sayans, he decides that I want to
Speaker 2: send Cakarat away because I don't want Cakarat to be
Speaker 2: killed here in whatever massker he feels is going to
Speaker 2: happen very soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to take a note, he just has a feeling.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have visions like he has in the Dragon Bald.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more of intuition as opposed to being psychic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he seems like more carried in a sense.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, he was more of a family man, right.
Speaker 2: He came back from whatever mission from a different planet.
Speaker 2: He has a wife who looked like.
Speaker 3: Fasha, but her name is Guinea. Yeah, she's the mother
Speaker 3: of Goku. And we see that Bardok wants to.
Speaker 2: Steal the same pod and send Goku h send Cakarot
Speaker 2: to another planet that he discovered called Earth. He said that,
Speaker 2: you know, if the intuition was wrong, if Friza doesn't
Speaker 2: go killing the Saints, then they could rejoin. They'll go
Speaker 2: He'll go save Cakarat from this planet and bring him back.
Speaker 2: If they are able to survive Friza's ambush, then they
Speaker 2: will go off to live on Earth with Cakrot. It's
Speaker 2: funny because he also mentions Ratus, who she says is
Speaker 2: out with the planet. Well, out with Prince Vegeta and Abook.
Speaker 1: But mind you, this is kind of indicating like he
Speaker 1: thinks like he's going to be able to reunite with.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately that never happens, right only in his visions
Speaker 2: in the original. So he sends Goku off to Earth Earth.
Speaker 1: They didn't say Earth this time, no, And then.
Speaker 3: His intuition was right.
Speaker 2: We had Freezer come along with the Freezer Force and
Speaker 2: destroy Planet Vegeta, similar to how he did in the
Speaker 2: original one. And similar to how he did in the
Speaker 2: original one. Bardok does go to fight off, but.
Speaker 1: This time he has a team this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this time it's not Bardok alone, and Bardak has
Speaker 2: a team of Sayings that go to fight the Freeze
Speaker 2: Force with him. But it's no help because the death
Speaker 2: Ball wipes out the Sayings, wipes out the Freeze Force,
Speaker 2: wipes out Bardok, and wipes out Planet Vegeta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Freezer still eliminates the planet of Vegeta and everyone.
Speaker 2: That asks Jamie Freezer anyway, so we have like a
Speaker 2: longer depiction in the Dragon Ball Z version. The Dragon
Speaker 2: Ball super is just like the beginning of the Roly movie,
Speaker 2: so we don't get too much information, but we do
Speaker 2: see similarities. So I want to ask you which Bardoc
Speaker 2: did you like better? The Dragon Ball Super or the
Speaker 2: Dragon Ball Z.
Speaker 1: I like them both, honestly, but I kind of like
Speaker 1: the Dragon Ball Super version better just because, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, the beginning kind of seems better, meaning like
Speaker 1: he's trying to look out for his son and trying
Speaker 1: to he's more of a compassionate father, yeah, whereas in
Speaker 1: the Dragon Ball version, like you said, he's just.
Speaker 3: Like the ass but he does turn later on.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not till the very end though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're here.
Speaker 2: Bardock definitely seemed more of a caring father. I mean,
Speaker 2: it showed the sayings in a different lay too, because
Speaker 2: Paragis even looked like a caring father in the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even though he he you know, was an asshole who
Speaker 2: was controlling his son with a shot collar pretty much,
Speaker 2: but he was more caring and willing to exile himself
Speaker 2: from Planning Vegeta because they exiled his son.
Speaker 1: And he wanted to protect his son.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I mean it did show that saying fathers are
Speaker 2: more caring. I mean, look how great of a saying
Speaker 2: father Goku is and Vegeta Vegeta Vegeta quietly is a
Speaker 2: good father. I mean, well, then again, this could be
Speaker 2: sparking a whole nother debate. But Goku loves his kids,
Speaker 2: he loves his family, and he'll do anything for his family. Well,
Speaker 2: how good of a father is he if he constantly
Speaker 2: leaves his family to go train, So I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's a chick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Even the end of Dragon Ball Z, he was like,
Speaker 2: all right, guys, I know in the next time, I
Speaker 2: want to see you, but I'm gonna train ooh.
Speaker 3: And it's like she was.
Speaker 1: Like, what really he got a family, bro.
Speaker 2: Anyway, there you have it. That is our episode. I'm Bardock,
Speaker 2: the father of Goku. We're going to make an announcement
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: For the rest of April.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, we have something big coming up because the
Speaker 2: next three episodes is going to be part of a
Speaker 2: three episode series that we're doing, and.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be all about the Tournament of Power.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot to talk about the Tournament Power.
Speaker 2: We can't we can't fit it into one episode. We're
Speaker 2: going to be talking about Goku coming up with the
Speaker 2: idea of the Tournament of Power to Zenny. We're going
Speaker 2: to be talking about Goku recruiting his team. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about the body of the Tournament of Power.
Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about the other Universes teams,
Speaker 2: and then of course we're going to be talking about
Speaker 2: the final showdown between me and jer Yes, Jeering, but
Speaker 2: not just Goku but Mastered Autonomous Ultra Instinct GOKU, which
Speaker 2: we've been wanting.
Speaker 3: To talk about for a long time on this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been wanting to see it for a long time.
Speaker 3: It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 2: Started next week is going to be a three episode series.
Speaker 3: All about the Tournament of Power. So we'll catch you
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