WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.400 Good evening, everyone, and welcome to another edition of The 2 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:11.480 Cajun Night Live. I am your host, Jacob Mook The 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.679 Cajun Night. A lot of things going on around the 4 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:16.839 world right now. Yes, in America where we're from, well 5 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.120 most of the people listening and where are from. But 6 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:21.160 I mean they're all over the world. And I'm not 7 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:24.399 gonna spend a whole lot of time talking about the 8 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.879 Israel Iran conversation. We're gonna bring it up a couple 9 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:30.719 of little things about it, but that seems to be 10 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.359 the big talking point that everybody is on right now. 11 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:36.280 We don't know if we are going to go to 12 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:40.640 war by we, I mean America. Trump just yesterday was 13 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:42.799 saying that he was still trying to keep America out 14 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:46.679 of war. Today he said that he's not sure. I 15 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:49.439 heard a interview with him, and in the same conversation 16 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:51.280 he was saying it's never too late to broke or 17 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.799 a deal, thirty seconds later says it's kind of late. 18 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:56.960 I mean, I don't know. I mean, that's the thing. 19 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:58.840 If Trump doesn't know what he's gonna do, there's no. 20 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:00.880 Way the enemy can know what he's gonna do. So 21 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.599 I get the tactic of it. That being said, just 22 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:08.359 to our south, we had some buffoonery go down in Columbia. 23 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.719 We're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about some 24 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.879 things that the Bricks Nations are doing. We're gonna talk 25 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:15.480 about some things that NATO is doing. We're gonna talk 26 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.959 about some just all encumbassing things. AI is gonna be 27 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:22.640 brought up on this episode. China is Iran is Russia 28 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:24.079 is that, It's all. 29 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:26.519 The things and all the stuff. So right off the rip, 30 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.040 I want to thank everybody for joining us for this conversation. 31 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.799 To anybody listen to this episode on Thursday or whatever 32 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:35.719 day you're listening to is It's released on Thursday on 33 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:37.920 the Cult of Conspiracy. But for anybody that would like 34 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.040 to be a part of the conversation, please come check 35 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:42.280 out the Cage and Night on Patreon. The link is 36 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:44.640 in the description below, one tier for entry. 37 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:45.079 Uh. 38 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:47.079 You know, we're just trying to grow this little community 39 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:50.719 to be something of an educational conversation at least once 40 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.519 a week. We all have are being bombarded by propaganda 41 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.359 and news media and things and stuff. This is the 42 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.239 time and place where we can kind of vent some 43 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:01.200 of the grievances, talk out some of the frustrations and 44 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:03.239 some of the other things going on here. So that's 45 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:05.840 what we do here, all right now, I'm gonna go 46 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:09.199 ahead and share the screen and let's just get started 47 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:15.919 right off the rip. So, Colombian president candidate recovering from 48 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:22.080 surgery after assassination attempt. I understand that Colombia is not 49 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:26.840 exactly new to the whole political assassination conversation, but still 50 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.680 I didn't really hear anything about this until just now, 51 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:33.919 So let's get into it. Colombian Senator Miguel Uribe Turbe. 52 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.039 Sorry if I'm mispronounced it. I speak American English, A 53 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:41.400 possible right wing candidate in the country's presidential election next year, 54 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:45.280 is recovering after successfully undergoing surgery following an assassination attempt 55 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:50.080 during a campaign rally in Bogada, Bogata Sure, thirty nine 56 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.680 year old RIBAe was speaking two supporters in the capital 57 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:55.960 city when a gunman shot him twice in the head 58 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:01.199 and once in the knee. It's very weird marksmanship, gonna 59 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.560 be honest, But however, twice in the head and he 60 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.919 got out of surgery and it was successful. Let's get 61 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:09.159 props for the due either A this guy just got 62 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.439 kind of glanced a couple of times, or B he's 63 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:14.879 he doesn't quit. Gotta get the props with they do. 64 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:18.560 He was airlifted to a hospital in critical condition and 65 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:23.879 underwent a neurosurgical and peripheral vascular procedure in Santa Fe 66 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:29.479 Clinic in Boga, Bogata. Told AFP he overcame the first 67 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:33.719 surgical procedure. The mayor, Carlos Fernando Galon told local media. 68 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:37.159 Eribe's wife, in an audio recording share with the media, 69 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.639 said her husband came out well from the surgery. He 70 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.719 fought the first battle and fought it well. He is 71 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.159 fighting for his life. She is heard saying, So, I guess, yeah, 72 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.240 this is the guy in question. The attack took place 73 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.919 in a park in the Fontain font Tabond neighborhood, when 74 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.879 armed assailant shot him from behind, said the right wing 75 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:01.840 Democratic Leader or Center, which was the party of former 76 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:05.639 president Alvaro Ribe. The men are not related, okay, I 77 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:07.960 guess Aribe is a common name in Columbia, fair enough. 78 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.199 The Attorney General's Office, which is investigating the shooting, said 79 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:13.479 a fifteen year old boy was arrested at the scene 80 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.759 with a firearm. Two others, a man and a woman, 81 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:18.560 were also wounded in the shooting. Our hearts are broken 82 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:22.920 Columbia's hurt, Carolina Gomez, a forty one year old businesswoman 83 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.879 told AFP. After the shooting, a Reba's Conservative Democratic Center 84 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:31.120 party released a statement calling it an unacceptable act of violence. Well, yeah, 85 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:34.439 no doubt. Columbia's government said it was offering a reward 86 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:39.079 for the capture of all those responsible. Respect life. That's 87 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.920 the red line, the president said in a message posted 88 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.600 on his ex account. Shortly after making the post. Petro 89 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.480 canceled a planned trip to France due to the seriousness 90 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.600 of the events, according to a presidential statement. In a 91 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.480 statement Saturday night, the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio 92 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.759 said the US condemned in the strongest possible terms, the 93 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:01.800 attempted assassination of Senator Miguel Ribe. Rubio called the shooting 94 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.800 a direct threat to democracy and the result of violent 95 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:08.240 leftist rhetoric coming from the highest levels of the Colombian government. 96 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.600 Having seen firsthand Columbia's progress over the past few decades 97 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.759 to consolidate security and democracy, it can't afford to go 98 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:18.680 back to dark days. Of political violence. President Petro needs 99 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.560 to dial back the inflammatory rhetoric and protect Columbia's officials 100 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:26.360 or Colombian officials, excuse me. Ribe Turbe is the son 101 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.759 of a journalist who was kidnapped and killed in nineteen 102 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.959 ninety one, during the country's most violent periods. Colombia will 103 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:35.240 hold a presidential election on May thirty first, in twenty 104 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.480 twenty six, marking the end of the current term of Petro, 105 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:41.800 Columbia's first leftist president. The senator announced his presidential bid 106 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.519 in March. So apparently the left, or at least the 107 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:49.240 left centric type of people, do not want a conservative 108 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.360 who is relatively likable from what I could read, to 109 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:56.360 take the presidency. They are liking the first leftist president 110 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.279 in a good long while. They want to see that continue, 111 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:02.839 I suppose. Columbian Police Chief General Carlos Triana said that 112 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.800 at the time of the attack, Rebate Turbe was accompanied 113 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:10.600 by councilman Andreas Barrios A and twenty other people. A 114 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.800 miner who allegedly participated in the attack was apprehended at 115 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.199 the scene and was being treated for a leg injury. 116 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.160 He said, I have ordered the Columbia military and police 117 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.480 forces and intelligence agencies to deploy all their capabilities to 118 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:27.879 urgently clarify the facts, said Defense Minister Pedro Sanchez. Sanchez 119 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.199 Sanchez again, I speak the Americans English. I don't you know, 120 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.319 it is what it is. Reactions poured in from around 121 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.720 Latin America, with Chilean President Gabriel Borick saying there is 122 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:42.199 no room or justification for violence in a democracy. So 123 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.839 long story short, everybody just says this is a horrible act. 124 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.399 But as we're talking about just the global news and 125 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.680 things going on around the world, thought we at least 126 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.839 need to bring up something a little closer to our doorstep. Next, 127 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.519 let's talk about Germany and what they are currently doing. Ryle, 128 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.480 I'm sorry, I'm jumping ahead of myself here. Let's before 129 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.279 we get to Germany and how they have just stacked 130 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:09.720 tanks and the forty fifth tank Brigade or Panzer brigade 131 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.040 or division excuse me, in Lithuania and this is the 132 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:21.079 first foreign permanently stationed German force since the nazis interesting, 133 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.240 not saying I don't support it. I like this a lot, 134 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.560 but also it's worth noting Germany hasn't done anything outside 135 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.120 of their borders. Militarily since then, I think it's dope. 136 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.199 But why why would they be doing this and in 137 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:39.439 this way? Well, NATO is in a transformation period right now, 138 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.560 not just for a good long while. There it was 139 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.480 two percent two percent GDP to be a part of NATO. 140 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:49.279 Then they up to three point five. The Americans are 141 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.439 trying to push it to five percent GDP. Just so 142 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.160 everyone's cleared. That would bankrupt half of Europe to do 143 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.360 it to that level. I think they should step up game. 144 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:02.199 It sounds like a skill issue to me, But hey, 145 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.120 what do I know, I'm just an American. Let's read 146 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:08.480 in here. This is from European Union Institute for Security 147 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.279 Studies Fit for Purpose, Reforming NATO in the Age of 148 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:14.920 Trump two point zero. Yeah, because it's always Trump's fault. 149 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.560 But you know, I guess he's the one that's been 150 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.800 pushing for the increase, and then you could see why 151 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.040 it's needed. So to take that with a grain of salt, 152 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:25.879 NATO is in an inflection point, caused by a growing 153 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:29.959 Russian threat to Europe and shifting American strategic priorities, with 154 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.200 President Trump demanding steep increases in defense spending and threatening 155 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.240 to abandon the alliance, which, speaking on behalf of myself, 156 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.720 Perhaps we should, I don't know. European countries are preparing 157 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:45.799 to shoulder a significantly higher share of the Transatlantic burden. 158 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.399 Beyond the headlines, the real test will lie in how 159 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:53.159 NATO translates political commitments into credible military capabilities, chiefly through 160 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:57.080 the NATO Defense planning process the brief. This brief explores 161 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:59.799 how the alliance can be adapted to strengthen the European 162 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:04.000 pa of NATO, address the uncertainty over US commitments and 163 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:09.960 ensure deterrence. Now spending more is not enough. According to 164 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.840 the article, the NATO summit in the Hague is the 165 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:16.000 first attempt Trump since Trump's return to the White House, 166 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:20.120 will have two main objectives. First, allies aim to agree 167 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:23.519 on a new baseline spending figure. Many argue that two 168 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.919 percent defense investment pledged agreed at the Whales Summit in 169 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:30.840 twenty fourteen is insufficient to meet the needs of European deterrence. 170 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.159 In addition, Trump sees a new spending agreement as a 171 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.360 key component in his transatlantic policy. Hence, the main headline 172 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.720 of the Hague summit will be adoption of a new 173 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.840 spending goal. The target will likely be above three percent 174 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:47.399 of GDP four defense items, with an additional one point 175 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:50.720 five for a broader security related matter such as infrastructure 176 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:53.559 and resilience. The some of these two items will likely 177 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.759 be approximate the five percent figure that Trump has flowed 178 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.840 in the beginning of the second term. So before I 179 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:01.840 can continue reading, just a breakdown of this, and if 180 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.559 anybody would like to interject, please, by all means feel 181 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.919 free to just unmute yourselves and just dive in here. 182 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.399 Two percent is the minimum to be a part of NATO, 183 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:13.360 and there were a few countries that were trying to 184 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.519 be a part of NATO and they had to make 185 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.399 some things happen in order to reach a two percent 186 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:24.000 GDP defense budget. That's not so easily accomplished. That being said, 187 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.559 this new proposition, they're talking about one point five percent 188 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.879 not just going to NATO as a whole, but being 189 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:36.159 designated to increase infrastructure. And that's something that I think 190 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.279 all of Europe could benefit from. There are certain countries 191 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:41.559 that are doing better than others as far as that goes. 192 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.440 I'm not throwing shade at anybody in particular here. However, 193 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.600 I'm pretty sure everybody can agree that the trains need 194 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.639 to be more modified. The electrical grid needs to be updated, 195 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.720 Internet security needs to be updated. Highway systems need to 196 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.960 be updated and modified. Like it's not to say anything. 197 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.600 America has the same issues. Infrastructure needs to be updated 198 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.000 and modify for the vast majority of our country. So again, 199 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.240 there's enough, there's enough fingers being pointed in all directions here. 200 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:13.840 That being said, three point five percent or three even 201 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.600 just around the three number, that's basically a fifty percent, 202 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.159 if not more, increase than what the NATO countries are 203 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.480 already paying. Most of them can't even make that happen 204 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:27.519 right now. So for them to do this and be 205 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:32.480 in what's the word I'm looking for in compliance with 206 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:37.559 the new NATO mandates. If this passes realistically, facts and 207 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.360 figures on paper would bankrupt half the continent. That you know, 208 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.279 it is what it is, right, So let's continue here. 209 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.559 More importantly, need NATO needs to decide what to spend 210 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:53.399 the additional funding on. That is, what forces and what 211 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.559 forces and capabilities to raise. That is the purpose of 212 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.519 the NATO Defense Planning process. This four year cycle is 213 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.159 the central framework to develop the military means that are 214 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.399 needed to defund Europe. In line with the political guidance 215 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.080 issued in twenty twenty three, NATO strategic commands identify the 216 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.559 minimum capability requirements, that is, the pool of forces and 217 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:16.639 capabilities that are necessary to fulfill operations and missions. The 218 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:23.799 capability targets are then appropriate, approportioned, apportioned. I'm sure that's 219 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.559 a word in some other English speaking country. To allies, 220 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:31.519 the allocation of capability targets is the second deliverance are 221 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.080 deliverable of the summit, albeit one that remains largely out 222 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.080 of the public eye due to its classified nature. Allies 223 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.080 are expected to agree on a thirty percent increase in 224 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.080 overall targets necessary to fulfill the requirements of the new 225 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:49.919 regional Plans for euro Atlantic defense. However, this increase is 226 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:53.240 not going to be equally distributed across the Alliance, since 227 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:57.720 the US has signaled its intention to reduce its commitment 228 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:01.440 to the European Conventional Deterrence, European allies in Canada will 229 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:07.279 carry the bulk of this increase. We've kind of footed 230 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:08.840 the bill for a lot of these things for a 231 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:13.840 long time. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but as far as 232 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:17.279 who has been pushing the lion's share of the NATO budget. 233 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.679 I think it's kind of goes without saying that America's 234 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.440 footed the bill for a good long while. I remember 235 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.480 just recently Trump threatened to leave and that made at 236 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:29.519 least one country that I can think of, but I 237 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.559 think also too up there spending to cover the cost. 238 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.320 And then they decided, Okay, we're back in action, we're 239 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.000 back in the conversation. But yeah, I could see it 240 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.519 going a couple of ways here, Raven, please. 241 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.840 So they're actually Poland is spending the most. They're doing 242 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:55.200 four point one two Yeah, four point twelve percent. We're 243 00:13:55.240 --> 00:14:01.120 at three point three eight percent, Estonia that three point 244 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.679 four or five three point four to three percent so 245 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:08.240 far of the GDP. It looks like they're like the 246 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.120 expectancy I dropped one in the chat from last year, 247 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.559 But it looks like it depends on what you're looking at, 248 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:17.480 because overall, the United States has core contributed to paying 249 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:21.399 for a lot of what's happening globally. But actually Poland's 250 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:24.120 been pulling their weight more than US over all. In 251 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:25.080 the last few years. 252 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:31.879 Poland aka Little European Texas, since the Russia Ukraine conflict started, 253 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.399 has been buying every single piece of equipment and tech 254 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:40.360 that people will sell them. If I'm not mistaken, both Lockhey, 255 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:45.039 Martin and Boeing have one hundred back ordered items that 256 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.720 as soon as they're created, are set to ship to Poland. 257 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:51.120 They are they are on a on a whole thing 258 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.759 right now. Poland's on their defense vibes, and I'm here 259 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:56.679 for it. I like Poland. I know that they get 260 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:58.960 shit on a lot by the European countries because they're 261 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:03.120 seen as the dumb ones. You know what. I disagree. 262 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.519 The Polish people I've met are always been pretty cool, 263 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.720 and I am here for having more weapons and defense 264 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.759 in Europe, and not just for the whole Russia thing, 265 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.080 although there's a lot of people that believe that that's 266 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.799 what they're gonna do next in Russia's totally gonna invade 267 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:19.759 Poland as soon as they get done with Ukraine, and 268 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.039 I don't personally believe that. That being said, more European 269 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.919 countries having more defense means that America could use more 270 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.440 of its resources for our problems. I like this a lot, 271 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.679 So yeah, to your point, you said it was Poland's 272 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.039 at four point twelve percent four point one two or 273 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:41.320 something like this. America was the Lion's shareholder up until 274 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.879 recently when Trump started pulling back more support from it. 275 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.120 I like it. I like it a lot, honestly. And 276 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.919 he's been on this whole kick since he got elected 277 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.519 that he will keep America out of new wars again 278 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.480 with the whole Iran conversation. We will see how that 279 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.960 shakes out. As of time of recording, he is still 280 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:03.759 saying these things. I don't know if they're going to 281 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:08.759 try to strong arm him into this conflict. But I 282 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:12.480 just still hold the opinion that Trump doesn't get strong 283 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:16.559 armed into things. I could be so wrong, and he 284 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:20.440 is about to be a puppet for somebody. It's very possible. 285 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.720 I just have a hard time seeing it, you know. 286 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.320 But all things considered, now, let's talk about this here. 287 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:31.759 Standing on weak legs, the function of the Alliance relies 288 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.559 on two key assumptions that may no longer be valid. 289 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.440 Not addressing them will make it harder to maintain a 290 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.159 strong and credible deterrence posture. The first assumption is that 291 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.840 the United States will maintain a key role in the 292 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:47.879 deterrence and defense of Europe. Native's defense mod model relies 293 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.840 on the US to provide large numbers of troops and firepower, 294 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.759 including eighty four thousand US service members who are stationed 295 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.720 across the United States. European Command EUCOM excuse me, responsibility. 296 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.680 NATO's command and control structure two relies on a US backbone. 297 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:11.559 For instance, its highest military authority is also the Yukon Commander. Finally, 298 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:16.359 the US provides some key strategic enablers intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, 299 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:20.680 air to air refueling and strategic airlift, ballistic missile defense, 300 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:26.359 and airborne electromagnetic warfare. So this is all contingent upon 301 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:31.599 America doing more or having the majority of the backbone 302 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.559 to it. Don't know how it's gonna look if America 303 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:36.880 is trying to take a step back from the NATO 304 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.119 in europe conversation. So who's to say what the future 305 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:45.519 will hold? Right here, it says a collective dependency capability 306 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:49.759 areas in which NATO is most dependent on the US 307 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:55.200 for strategic airlift. Yeah, I mean, okay, I'm not going 308 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.200 to give the whole list here. There's an entire diagram 309 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:58.880 for anybody who would like to see this. It will 310 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:02.559 be on the Cajun Night Ptreon. It's a diagram basically 311 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:06.079 showing every asset that America brings to the table that 312 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.920 helps the entirety of the of the NATO conversation. Here, 313 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.799 strategic enablers are akin to collective goods for NATO. While 314 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.279 they are provided by one country, their presence significantly enhances 315 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:23.319 the combat effectiveness of all allied forces or of specific 316 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.920 regional coalitions. European countries have relied on American enablers for decades, 317 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:31.839 even in non NATO operations, As the continued availability of 318 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:35.240 these assets was largely taken for granted, they had little 319 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:39.440 incentive to invest in alternatives. Well, again, that's kind of 320 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.599 what the current administration has been saying. We've been getting 321 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:44.359 taken advantage of for a while. How that was the 322 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:49.039 entire platform of his tariff conversation, saying that American economy 323 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.599 has getten taken advantage of by pretty much everybody. We 324 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.759 want to sell in other countries, we have to pay 325 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.400 tariffs they want to sell here. No tariffs conversation with 326 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.119 the NATO com You know, I see it as well. Well, 327 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:04.079 we've been footing the bill, and they they NATO, the 328 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.400 European countries that are part of it have been benefiting 329 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.799 from US having way more of the military tech. Everybody 330 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:13.400 wants to talk shit on America for being the global police. 331 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:15.279 Why do you spend so much on your military bup 332 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.720 bup bop. Except they're all living very comfortably on the umbrella, 333 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:24.400 under the umbrella of the American defensive posture. It's very 334 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:28.240 crazy to me that they would complain while hiding behind 335 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:33.200 our shield. I know might be an unpopular opinion, but hey, 336 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.279 it is what it is. However, the new Trump administration 337 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:40.559 has signaled its intentions to significantly reduce its contributions, calling 338 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:44.559 this long long standing assumption into question. As Secretary head 339 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.000 Seth said in February of twenty twenty five, strategic realities 340 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.599 prevent the US from taking primary responsibility for European conventional deterrence. 341 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.200 The European Command is expected to suffer cuts as part 342 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.519 of the Department of Defense's budget reallocation process, which may 343 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:02.759 result in the reduction of American forces in Europe. Even 344 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.799 the US provided enablers could be removed from the Euroatlantic theater. 345 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.440 According to the twenty twenty five National Defense Policy Guideline, 346 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.319 the Pentagon will shift resources into the Indo Pacific and 347 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:19.559 assume risk in other theaters, and you know it's as China. 348 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.960 It's a fine name your reason why we would be 349 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.039 putting more of our assets into the Pacific region rather 350 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.240 than the Atlantic region, whatever you want to say. That 351 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:31.880 means that Europe is going to be even more on 352 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.039 high alert. Could this possibly all be a play to 353 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:38.640 incentivize them to pay their fair share as far as 354 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.839 their own defense is concerned. Possibly also, the way the 355 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.880 US coerced Ukraine in early twenty twenty five set's a 356 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:50.039 dangerous precedent. It suggests that Washington could decide to withdraw 357 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:54.039 or withhold certain capabilities from European allies for negotiating purposes. 358 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:57.240 In this context, it is unclear whether the US can 359 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.119 be counted upon to maintain its commitments to Europe, the 360 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.279 Europe's conventional deterrence, or even that any transition can be 361 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:09.000 managed gradually. While the current NDPP that's the group that 362 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.599 we were talking about here earlier, could deal with a 363 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:15.519 gradual reduction in the US presence, it is unequipped to 364 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:20.039 deal with an unexpected withdrawal. Again, this sounds like a 365 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:24.519 scale issue and a skill issue. If you can't stand 366 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:29.440 on your own, Yeah, now I'm gonna go there right now. 367 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.240 The second assumption is that individual countries can make up 368 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.400 for the capability shortfalls. While targets in the NDPP can 369 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:42.039 be appointed individually, multinationally or collectively, in practice the vast 370 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:46.359 majority are allocated to individual countries. This national focus is 371 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:50.680 reflected in the consensus minus one rule. A country cannot 372 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:55.119 veto a capability package assigned to itself. According to this format, 373 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.720 the reduction of the US commitments could be offset by 374 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:01.119 setting higher targets for the other thirty one allies. This 375 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:05.720 solution makes sense for certain forces and capabilities. For example, 376 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.799 European countries will need to individually provide the personnel to 377 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.279 fulfill the new NATO Force model, which now requires up 378 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:16.559 to five hundred thousand forces at different levels of readiness. 379 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:21.039 Single countries can also provide specific assets. For instance, the 380 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.319 UK and Canada possess significant intelligence capabilities as member of 381 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:30.960 the Five Eyes Alliance. However, even the most militarily advanced 382 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:34.640 European countries will struggle to replace most US provided assets. 383 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.559 This is particularly too true for these strategic enablers, which 384 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:43.559 require long term, costly investments for acquisition and procurement. Many 385 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:47.119 go beyond the means of individual countries. For example, most 386 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.119 experts believe that Europe will need five to ten years 387 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:54.000 to have sufficient capacity to stop relying on the US 388 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:59.680 for space based ISR. That also makes sense to me. 389 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.839 I don't know if, as someone knows which country has 390 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.240 the most satellites in space, I would love to know. 391 00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.720 I want to say it's US, but I can't. I 392 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.720 can't confirm that. I know a bunch of other countries 393 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:14.839 have their own space assets out there for their own 394 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:20.319 reconnaissance and things. But yeah, they're talking just to stop 395 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:24.759 relying on the US for our satellite reconnaissance five to 396 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:28.960 ten years. I think that is an underestimation or an 397 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:31.160 over whichever one makes it seem like that's ridiculous. It 398 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:34.000 might take twenty maybe twenty five years for them to 399 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.240 have enough eyes in the sky of their own to 400 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.960 not rely on America. I don't know. Real quick, before 401 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.440 I continue, let me go check out the chat. See 402 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:48.160 what all the people have been saying. I'm going to do. 403 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.920 Let's see. I kind of like Petro, but my Colombian 404 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.480 friend's dad doesn't. Says he tried to take on Petro 405 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.359 once in an airport and the guy was not in 406 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:00.920 the mood to be talked, to take him on like 407 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:05.839 in fisticuffs, or like take him on as in having 408 00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:09.119 an impromptu debate in the middle of an era. 409 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:13.079 Just talk to him. So I've spelled talk wrong somehow, So. 410 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.000 Don't you history called him out in an airport like dude, 411 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.960 I like him. Boy's got some stones on him. But yeah, okay, 412 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:24.680 that makes sense. Uh let's see here here, ravenly ba 413 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:28.839 ba bap. I hope everyone has had and is having 414 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:31.599 a wonderful day. Much love to all of you, y'all. 415 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.079 Be good for those of you working right now. Be 416 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.880 careful getting home. Same to you, brother, Raven. I see 417 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.200 the article that you sent. I'm gonna pull that one 418 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.319 up right after this one. As a matter of fact, 419 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.079 Tony says military spending and they don't even know what 420 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.480 to spend it on yet. NATO sucks and should have 421 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.319 been ended after nineteen ninety one. NATO has been aggressive 422 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.720 to Yugoslavia and Libya. I can't find any fault in 423 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.319 your logic here. NATO's entire purpose of being still up 424 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.559 in the first place was to go against the USSR. 425 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.759 Once the USSR collapsed, NATO should have gone by the 426 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:08.880 wayside or if if that was the case in these 427 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.640 countries that were allied for this long wanted to maintain 428 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.920 those strong alliances. Fine, let it be under a new doctrine, 429 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:20.400 under a new alliance, something that is not completely systemically 430 00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:25.440 anti Russia. And once Russia was, now what they are 431 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.680 and they're not the USSR anymore. They're a new country, 432 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.119 and they tried to get into NATO and could meet 433 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.119 all the requirements. Why wouldn't you let them in as 434 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:35.000 a show of good faith? I me and you have 435 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:36.160 had this conversation before. 436 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:40.200 I agree, Yeah, absolutely. And Eisenhower once said that if 437 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.359 NATO lasts for more than ten years, it will have 438 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:44.759 been a failure. I don't know exactly what he meant 439 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.680 by that, but anyway, it's still here, like seventy years later. 440 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.599 And originally it was just the Atlantic countries. There was 441 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.079 no idea, there was no proposal that it should go 442 00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.359 all the way to eastern Europe like Poland, the Baltic 443 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.079 States and everywhere else like that. But some people are 444 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:05.920 talking about bringing Georgia in and Ukraine. Ukraine is definitely 445 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.119 off the table for now, but Georgia, that's nowhere even 446 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.960 near the Atlantic and Turkey got in somehow, actually pretty early, 447 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.359 because I think they sent some troops to the Korean 448 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.480 War and they were just begging the US to be 449 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.599 let in, and the US said, okay, we'll let you in. Basically, 450 00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:25.799 Turkey has always been hostile to Russia until kind of recently, not. 451 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.839 Always here recently they've been kind of cozy enough. 452 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.400 Yeah, but they fought wars with Russia for hundreds of years. 453 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.160 They used to own Crimea a long time ago, so 454 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:38.240 they were enemies for hundreds of years and it's only 455 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.240 recently kind of mellowed out. And nobody knows who signed 456 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.880 Arawan is ever on anyway, I don't. 457 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.799 Think he knows what side he's on. I mean, it 458 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.720 goes day to day Turkey is and I've heard it 459 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:53.160 be called this by multiple sources, NATO's resident bad boy, 460 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.799 Like we don't like them, but we're glad they're a 461 00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:58.880 part of the click. But we don't like that they're 462 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:02.400 a part of the click. Yeah, I'm I've always wondered 463 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.200 how Turkey was able to sneak their way into NATO 464 00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.279 that early on. Like you said, it's blown my mind 465 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.720 for forever. I don't know if it was traditionally, because 466 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:16.279 that's the Automan Empire, the last remnants thereof, some would suggest, 467 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:18.599 and so maybe they wanted to have that kind of 468 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.079 an ally in that section of the world, being a 469 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.880 corridor to there are Arabic countries, but like, Turkey's not 470 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.200 going to be your homeboy against Arabic countries in the 471 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.400 manner at which NATO thinks it would be maybe out loud, 472 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.160 face to face talking to them. They would say one thing, 473 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.000 but they'll do another. That's Turkey's got their own problems 474 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.680 that they've been dealing with for ever. So yeah, I'm 475 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.319 agree with you on that. Let's see here the Pew 476 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.440 Research Center twenty twenty three, eighty three percent of Poles 477 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:52.400 express confidence in Joe Biden's leadership in world affairs, which 478 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.119 was the highest recorded confidence level for any US president 479 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:01.160 in Poland by Pew Research the Pole of Poles. How 480 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.680 but I don't trust polling with opinions. Yeah, you know, 481 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.559 I was just talking them up. I know that people 482 00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.359 say that there are a bunch of dummies or whatever. 483 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:16.079 I like the Poles, but hmm, eighty three percent of 484 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.799 them were liking what Biden was about. That's kind of 485 00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.240 concerning it's kind of concerning. I do like as I 486 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.279 was saying, I love that they are buying so much 487 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.599 of the American made weapons. Hell, not just American, any 488 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.000 weapons that any country is willing to sell them. Right now, 489 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.279 they are just buying up like it's going out of style. 490 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:37.599 I don't know where exactly they're getting the budget for that, 491 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.359 but that is not my problem. That is their economy's problem. 492 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.519 Hope it doesn't lead to their collapse. That's all I'm saying. 493 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:47.240 Let's get here, Cody Bob, welcome, Cody Bob. Just want 494 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.240 to step in for a sec to say hello and 495 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:53.160 good night. Four OFM comes early, see y'all Tuesday slash Wednesday, Yo. 496 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.039 I feel that my boy had absolutely comes early. Thank 497 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.960 you for stopping in. The US has thirty four hundre 498 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.519 hundred sets, with China having five hundred and thirty five. 499 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.400 And that's what Google says in twenty twenty three, out 500 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.000 of the fifty five hundred satellites, only four hundred and 501 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:14.480 twenty four satellites are used for military. Very interesting, Raven. 502 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.000 I saw your hand was raised earlier. Was that what 503 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:17.839 you were going to say? Or you got something else 504 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:18.240 as well? 505 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:20.160 I was deep dive. 506 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:24.759 Well, I'm currently deep diving into who owns Planet Labs Inc. 507 00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:26.519 Right now because I was looking at the top three 508 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.799 people that have satellites and I was. 509 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.079 Found interesting this woman, Ashley F. 510 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.680 Johnson, and I'm wondering if she's related to the other Johnson's, 511 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:38.039 And so now I'm in a deep dive trying to 512 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.160 pick a part who belongs to who? 513 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.720 So when you say the other Johnson's, do you mean 514 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:46.440 like the Pharma Johnson's or like President Lyndon B. Johnsonson. 515 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.759 Well, that's what I'm trying to figure out, is who 516 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.200 she belongs to because it's she owns a ton of 517 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.880 stock in it, and she's one of the wealthiest people 518 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:01.039 and she's running that specific group and they're number three 519 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:02.720 having the most satellites. 520 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.559 FACEX is number one, and I didn't. I just clicked 521 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.960 off of who owns number two? 522 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.640 Number two is one web satellite out of the UK Okay, Okay. 523 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.759 To be fair, though, Johnson's a pretty common name, so 524 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.279 it may have no connection whatsoever, it may have all 525 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.319 of the connections. Let us know what you find absolutely 526 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.200 continuing here, Tony, no ball Earth propaganda in this chat, please, 527 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.599 I did of course, No, No, I'm pretty sure that 528 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.880 everybody affiliated with the Cajun Night Live is living very 529 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.000 comfortably in the knowledge that we are living on a ball, 530 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.720 not a flat plane. Although if there are any flat 531 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.039 earthers that are part of the Cajun Night community, I 532 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.920 would like to know. We are not going to have 533 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.359 a flat Earth debate on this pod. However, I would 534 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.559 just kind of like to know. Just throw it in 535 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.839 the chat. We'll get back to that in a bit. 536 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.400 Let's see breaking up out. Though self fulfilling prophecy, European 537 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.880 allies in NATO may fear that they could set emotion 538 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.920 the very outcome they seek to avoid. The more they 539 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.680 plan to replace the US presence, the more excuses they 540 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.119 will give to DC policymakers to leave. This fear is 541 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.079 likely holding back the attempts at openly reforming the alliance. 542 00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.960 After all, maintaining a strong bond between Europe and North 543 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:28.599 America is existential of excuse me is of existential importance 544 00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.759 to NATO. Yeah, that would make sense. However, it is 545 00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:36.000 unlikely that the US will make its disengagement decisions based 546 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.960 on which allies are providing specific capabilities. If anything, defense 547 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.599 planners in the Pentagon may view such contributions as a 548 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.039 positive step towards fair or burden sharing. Even those who 549 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.160 advocate a more restrained US role in Europe and favor 550 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.200 a refocus towards the Indo Pacific argue that deterring China 551 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.640 would be easier if Europeans possessed alternatives to US capabilities, 552 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.319 making them more valuable allies. I can't disagree with that. 553 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.920 It is more likely that other policies, such as restrictions 554 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:09.440 on US companies access to the European defense market, will 555 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.400 rattle Trump, but it is unlikely that reforming NATO structures 556 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.279 would make him more eager to leave. You know, who's 557 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.680 to say, Like Trump said, he didn't know what he's 558 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:21.839 going to do yet, it's pretty much his decision on 559 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.599 everything he's ever asked. Overcoming this fear is a necessary 560 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.440 step for reform to the Alliance and make it truly 561 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:33.319 fit for purpose. The alternative is maintaining the current dependency 562 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.079 on American assets without any guarantees that Washington will continue 563 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.839 to provide them. NATO's planners would need to make some 564 00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.599 significant changes to the way the Alliance yep, to the 565 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.279 way the Alliance decides, and allocates targets. First, they need 566 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.039 to analyze which assets the US is most likely to 567 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.799 withdraw from the euro Atlantic theater. US planners should also 568 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.000 be more forthcoming and explain their likely plans for redeployment. 569 00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.119 On that basis, NATO define a prioritiy list of assets 570 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.880 and assess how early or excuse me, how easily individual 571 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:11.160 allies can replace them. Second, in allocating capabilities, NATO's planners 572 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:15.039 should shift the balance away from national target allocations, encouraging 573 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.759 European countries to develop, acquire, or procure common assets. NATO 574 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.680 commands could directly own some assets, like with the a 575 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:26.759 Wax aircraft or the Alliance Ground surveillance fleet of five 576 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.920 RQ four D Phoenix remotely piloted aircraft, but this might 577 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.240 not work for all platforms. Allies could also form groupings 578 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.839 where higher trust facilities and development of common assets, perhaps 579 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.480 following the model and capabilities of the coalitions for Ukraine, 580 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.960 regional groups or other flexible formats. This plan should allow 581 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.720 Europeans to provide at least half of the enablers to 582 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:55.200 accomplish NATO's mission, rebalancing the dependency on America. Broader changes 583 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.960 in NATO's force structures should also take place the priority 584 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.160 to strengthen the European component of the force. One possible 585 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.079 solution could be to group NATO's deployment forces in Europe 586 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.679 into larger sized units, from brigrade brigades to divisions. While 587 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.400 many countries cannot immediately feel larger forces, merging them with 588 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.920 those of other countries will make it easier, will make 589 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:24.400 each command stronger and larger. NATO civilian and military leadership 590 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.480 roles can also be restructured to reflect the greater share 591 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.239 of the burden that Europeans are expected to bear, gradually 592 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.639 moving responsibilities away from the US backbone without completely delinking it. 593 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.039 This could ultimately result in the appointment of a European 594 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.039 figure as a Secretary in charge of the European Forces. 595 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.800 So that being said, America did just do something with 596 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.440 Norway that I just found out about, and it was 597 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.320 it was just for a brief moment, I know, but 598 00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:01.159 the overarching breakdown of it, we have unmanned and aerial craft, 599 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:03.880 and I don't mean just the drones that you're thinking 600 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.239 of with the trench warfare that's going on in Ukraine 601 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:11.719 right now. It was more like a more modern Predator drone, 602 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:18.320 and we were doing some training over Europe over allies, right, 603 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.400 and we all and by we I mean the Royal 604 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:25.159 we I mean the United States Forces allowed Norwegian fighter 605 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.880 pilots or drone operators to actually link in and then 606 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.920 take control of these crafts for a period of time, 607 00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:35.960 and then they delink themselves and we took back control 608 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.119 over it. It's kind of like whenever you're training a 609 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.239 new pilot in the sky and you get them up there, 610 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.199 and then once you take off, you kind of like 611 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.480 let them take over the stick for a little bit 612 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.519 and they do some little moves and they test things 613 00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.000 out and all good things. When it comes time to land, 614 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.440 you take over control again. We just did that. I 615 00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.199 forget what the name of the operation was, Jorgan Johan, 616 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.360 something like this, Norwegian and Viking sounding. I don't speak 617 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.440 the language. But this was done in an attempt to 618 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.480 show how transferable a lot of these assets could be. 619 00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.159 And I'm not saying that Norway is really great militarily 620 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.519 or really weak, but it was the first step of 621 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:23.079 letting another country pilot our materials and craft like that. 622 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:28.239 This kind of was a big deal, honestly. Now for 623 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.280 insurance reasons, And I don't mean insurance like Geico, I 624 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.960 mean like big picture insurance. If that would have crashed 625 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.800 while Norwegians were piloting it, who would have been hailed responsible? 626 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:39.679 Right? 627 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.159 That would have been a huge point of contention. And 628 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.159 I understand this, But as far as the first steps 629 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:50.480 go of having like they're talking about europe Centric assets, 630 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.559 things that could be transferred from one country to another 631 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.920 to another depending on the region at which they're needed, 632 00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.280 that sounds like a good idea to me. Everybody who 633 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.639 has used a certain weapons platform, whether it be a rifle, 634 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:10.639 whether it be a javelin with a clue, or whether 635 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.360 it be a predator drone, whatever the case would be, 636 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.800 if our allies are using the same tech and equipment 637 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.320 that we're using, it would only make sense to me 638 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:25.199 that they be adequately trained on the material those on 639 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:29.159 the equipment. It's just me speaking on behalf of myself here, 640 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.360 so I don't know. I like the way it's sounding 641 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:32.960 though thus far. 642 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:33.440 So. 643 00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.679 While the EU cannot be directly involved in NATO structures, 644 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.440 it has tools at its disposal that can help with 645 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.840 the efforts outlined above. The Europeans Commissions proposal to activate 646 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.239 the National Escape clause of the Stability and Growth Pact 647 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.639 will enable EU member states in NATO to achieve higher 648 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:55.480 defense spending requirements. Safe loans will finance joint procurement projects 649 00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:00.360 they are well suited to acquire. A key capability and 650 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.800 enablers such as those mentioned in the White Paper on 651 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.880 the Future of European Defense. The EU and NATO agencies 652 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.079 can also cooperate to develop joint asset buildings on past 653 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.800 successful examples, such as the multinational Multi Role Tanker Transport 654 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.599 the MRTT aircraft fleet for air to air refueling. I'm 655 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:26.519 not mistaken there's not many countries that can actually field 656 00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:30.320 that kind of capability. But if multiple European nations got 657 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:33.679 together to buy a fleet of these air to air 658 00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:38.280 refuel tankers and they're just used in a NATO centric way, 659 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.519 I see that as a good asset that can go 660 00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:45.199 in so many directions. Makes perfect sense to me. Anyway, 661 00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.400 Let's see we could wrap this one up here. It 662 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.719 says a full reckoning. The two architects of the current 663 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:57.400 INDPP cycle, Ambassador Angus Lapsi and Admiral Pierre Vandal van Dell, 664 00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.079 I don't know, argue that it will make the Alliance 665 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.519 battle ready in a way that has not been the 666 00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.079 case since the end of the Cold War. To be 667 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.239 truly transformational, the Alliance should take into account all aspects 668 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.559 of the new strategic scenario, including the risk of the 669 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:18.079 US disengagement. Only that will ensure that the necessary ambition 670 00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:22.199 changes or ambitious changes take place, such as the development 671 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.920 of a genuine European pillar within NATO. Failure to act 672 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:32.320 risks opening gaps into terns, making future aggression more likely. Okay, 673 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:34.199 so I know that was kind of long winded here, 674 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.679 but all of that to say here we go all 675 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.320 that to say that not just NATO in and of itself, 676 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.320 but even the countries and then within it, some of 677 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.519 them are actually stepping up. Let's talk about Germany deploying 678 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:54.400 these two Leopard tanks to reinforce NATO's eastern flank. On 679 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.280 May twenty second of this year, Germany officially inaugurated its 680 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:03.079 forty fifth armored Brigade to Lithuania, marking the first long 681 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.320 term deployment of German troops on foreign soil since the 682 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.079 end of World War II. As reported by the German 683 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.679 Armed Forces, this historical deployment of a mechanized brigade falls 684 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.800 under NATO's deterrence and for defense posture specifically within the 685 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.880 heavy armor category of land based conventional warfare. The initiative 686 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:25.800 reflects Germany's renewed defense concepts of permanent forward presence in 687 00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:31.280 response to involving evolving threats to NATO's eastern flank. Yes, 688 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.960 I understand that inherently they mean Russia, but I mean again, 689 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.360 Germany has been on one here recently, and not just 690 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.840 in the past couple of weeks. The past few years, 691 00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.599 they've been trying to build back their military to be 692 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:48.079 a real world class fighting force. This will probably be 693 00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.119 the first of what I would propose would be many. 694 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.239 I feel like there's gonna be a lot more permanently 695 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.880 stationed German troops at multiple bases around the world, very 696 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.039 similarly to how America has multiple all over the world. 697 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:03.760 Germany is trying to become a part of that conversation, 698 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.159 and honestly, as of this moment, I support it. So 699 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.280 this is one of those Panzer divisions right here, the 700 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:13.239 forty fifth coming into Lithuania. The presence of German soldiers 701 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:17.440 in Lithuania has long been symbolic since Berlin first reinforced 702 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:21.079 NATO's enhanced forward presence mission in the Baltic States following 703 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:25.119 Russia's annexation of Crimea in twenty fourteen. However, this new 704 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.679 deployment takes a strategic leap. It is not rotational, temporary, 705 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.519 or reactive. It is a permanent, structured brigade designed to 706 00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.880 stay with three maneuver battalions along with comprehensive combat support 707 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.079 and logistics elements. The brigade is set to reach full 708 00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.480 operational capacity by twenty twenty seven, hosting up to five 709 00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.679 thousand German personnel and civilians for Lithuania and its neighbors. 710 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.159 This development provides a tangible layer of protection against the 711 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:58.400 possibility of Russia Russian incursions beyond Ukraine. The German forty 712 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.519 fifth Armored Brigade permanently de Floyd and Lithuania features some 713 00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.400 of Bundenwers Bundeswars. Tony help me out here. 714 00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.400 Yeah, Bundesvere it's uptake to the Wehrmacht. They had to 715 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.400 rename it Vere just means weapons and Bunds has to 716 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.199 do with the Republic. 717 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.280 Got you. I know, I only know of the bundest 718 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.840 part because of like the bundes League, which is the 719 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.119 German soccer league. So Bundesver. 720 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.239 Yeah, it's any kind of any kind of bonded group 721 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.119 of people bonded together. That's what the root is. So 722 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:38.159 you got the bundes Republic and Bunds everything. 723 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.159 Yeah, and you gotta sink your teeth into those wobble 724 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:45.960 ues so bundsviars hell yeah. Uh. Some of the Bundesver's 725 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.880 most modern systems forming a high readiness, full spectrum combat 726 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.679 force on NATO's eastern flank at its core are Lepper 727 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.880 two A six main battle tanks known for their superior firepower, 728 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.559 protection and mobility in armored warf These are supported by 729 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.559 Puma infantry fighting vehicles equipped with advanced sensors and a 730 00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:09.599 thirty millimeters auto cannon, which is pretty sick. I don't 731 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:11.320 know if anybody's ever seen one of those go off, 732 00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.800 but it's a fully automatic cannon that shoots red bull 733 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:18.440 can sized ammunition. It's beautiful in my opinion. Offering protected 734 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.599 mobility and digital battlefield integration. For artillery support, the brigade 735 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.639 relies on PZH two thousand, self propelled howitzers capable of 736 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:33.000 delivering accurate, long range fire, Finnic reconnaissance vehicles enhanced situational awareness, 737 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:37.199 while Boxer armored personnel carriers provide versatile troop transport to 738 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.320 support and support functions. The brigade is further protected by 739 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:46.239 integrated air defense systems, ensuring resilience against aerial threats. Germany's 740 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.760 defense posture has undergone a significant transformation since Russia launched 741 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.039 its full scale invasion of Ukraine in twenty twenty two. 742 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:56.880 The shift is evident in increasing increased defense spending and 743 00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:01.840 Chancellor Friedrich Mayers's re recent state positioning the German Army 744 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.280 to become the quote strongest conventional force in Europe end quote. 745 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.159 I'm liking it. I'm liking the gaul of the Germans 746 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.960 right now. Honestly, against this backdrop, the brigade in Lithuania 747 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.840 is not just a symbol of commitment. It is a 748 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.119 message to Moscow, as highlighted by army recognition. Russia is 749 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:28.480 currently reactivating Soviet era military infrastructure near Finland's border, such 750 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:35.760 as the Alakurti Alacurti Alacrity Sure Airbase, reinforcing concerns that 751 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.159 future aggression could extend beyond Ukraine and into the Baltic region. 752 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.599 This militarization echoes Cold War air attentions and elevates the 753 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:49.440 strategic importance of forward NATO deployments like Germany's forty fifth Brigade. Yeah, 754 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.719 I got a little bit left to read on this. 755 00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:55.039 The German Armed Force of Forces presence in Lithuania underscores 756 00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:00.519 a recalibration of European security dynamics. It reinforces NATO's Eastern 757 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.320 front at a critical time when a military deterrence and 758 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:09.320 infrastructure readiness are being tested by Russian maneuvers and hybrid threats. Lithuania, 759 00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.360 bordering both Kaliningrad and Belarus, represents a frontline state in 760 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:22.039 NATO security architecture. Its Defense Minister Dovile Sakalini sure describe 761 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:26.119 Germany's decision as a historic example of leadership, emphasizing the 762 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.599 deployment significance not just for the national defense, but for 763 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:33.880 the entire alliance. She affirmed her country's commitment to building 764 00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.559 the necessary infrastructure and ensuring German troops feel at home, 765 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:43.000 reflecting a shared strategic vision between Berlin and Villinius. Okay, 766 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:47.199 so again, this is a permanent deployment in Lithuania. I 767 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.360 like it. I like it a lot, and I thought 768 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.079 that while they absolutely there was a talk that they 769 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.360 would eventually be having troops go to Lithuania full time, 770 00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.239 it is now a reality, and they're saying that it's 771 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.440 going to be until twenty twenty six. I think whenever 772 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.159 they're gonna have full capabilities. But I don't know exactly 773 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:08.159 what's classified as full capabilities. But yeah, they've got they've 774 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.679 got a base, a real brick and mortar base going 775 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.280 on here. Let's see. I put up a Yahoo article 776 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.639 that kind of goes back over the things we already 777 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.519 discussed as far as NATO set to agree on a 778 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.880 five percent GDP defense spending. That's what Marco Rubio said. 779 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.480 The Allies are set together for an annual summit at 780 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.039 the Hague June twenty four to twenty fifth, amid growing 781 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:36.280 uncertainties of the US's commitment to NATO under President Donald Trump. 782 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.079 There's a direct quote, we are headed for a summit 783 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.840 in six weeks, as an older quote, in which virtually 784 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.840 every member of NATO will be at or above two percent, 785 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.480 but more importantly, many of them will be over four percent, 786 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.039 and all will have agreed on a goal of reaching 787 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.559 five percent. Over the next decade. It's a bold claim. 788 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:01.079 It's a very very bold claim, and one that I 789 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.360 don't know how many European countries will actually be able 790 00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.280 to field. I hope that that becomes a reality, I 791 00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.239 really do, But boy, oh boy, I just have a 792 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.480 hard time seeing with some of the country sure, right, 793 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.719 with some of the countries in Europe, I have no 794 00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.480 disbelief in my mind that they will absolutely be able 795 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:25.039 to meet a five percent GDP push. With others, I 796 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:27.639 sincerely doubt that they'll even be able to meet the 797 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:31.360 requirements that are set forth for this year, let alone 798 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:35.000 future commitments. If y'all have anything y'all would like to add, 799 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.440 go for it. At this time, I'm gonna check the 800 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:41.239 chat to see if anybody has dropped anything crazy. Oh yeah, 801 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:46.639 ravenly dropped an article. Let's see this. Yeah, speaking of Yes, indeed, 802 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.800 as we're talking about this exact topic, go ahead and 803 00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.559 share the screen again. So let's talk about this. This 804 00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:59.440 is from forcenews dot com Which countries in the NATO 805 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:03.000 Alliance are paying their fair share on defense? Now, this 806 00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.320 is from July of last year, but at the same time, 807 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.679 as we're talking about all of the advancements and the 808 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.840 increases in funding and spending. I don't see going one 809 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.639 year back in time as being really outdated information. A 810 00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.280 record number of NATO nations have met or exceeded the 811 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.960 alliance's spending target, but other members are still falling short. 812 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.719 Out of the thirty one NATO members, twenty three are 813 00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.679 expected to meet NATO's guidelines of spending two percent of 814 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.639 their gross domestic product on defense. So real quick, one 815 00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.800 more time. Thirty one countries are a part of NATO, 816 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.239 and twenty three were expected to meet their requirement of 817 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.360 two percent. So we're already looking at a little more 818 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.400 than two thirds of the countries being able to do 819 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.239 what they said they would do at two percent. Now 820 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.880 we're talking about increasing that to five How many of 821 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.840 these countries barely met too? Right, let's talk about it here. 822 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.920 This is a huge increase from twenty fourteen when only 823 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:09.519 three NATO allies hit the spending target. Wow, ten years ago, 824 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.400 well at fifteen has of time of recording, but ten 825 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.599 years or excuse me eleven? Wow, my math is not mathing. 826 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:22.440 A little over ten years ago, only three NATO allies 827 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.519 could hit a two percent target. Now I'm glad that 828 00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:28.880 everybody is doing better economically or at least, you know, 829 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.719 able to pay their bills, so to speak, or meet 830 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:33.559 their commitments, whatever you want to however you want to 831 00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:37.360 phrase that, but okay, let's talk about it here. The 832 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:41.199 increase in defense spending means European NATO allies as a 833 00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.079 whole are collectively spending two percent of their combined GDP 834 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.960 worth three hundred and eighty billion dollars US on defense 835 00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:51.320 for the first time. This year's estimates are set to 836 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:56.760 exceed NATO Secretary General Jens Strollenberg's projections in twenty twenty three. 837 00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:59.719 He said eighteen nations were expected to spend two percent 838 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:03.920 of the GDP on defense in twenty twenty four eighteen, 839 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.599 So we went from eighteen to twenty three, but again 840 00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.280 that was at a two percent margin. We're talking about 841 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.559 overly doubling that. How many of these countries do you 842 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.119 actually think are going to be able to make that happen. 843 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.239 So we're looking at the cour at the chart now. 844 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.679 In twenty fourteen, only three nations could meet their commitments. 845 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:30.360 Twenty fifteen and sixteen, only five, twenty seventeen, four nations, 846 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:36.079 twenty eighteen, six twenty nineteen seven, twenty twenty the COVID year. 847 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.159 Oh my god, world economies are collapsing, all the craziness. 848 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.840 Nine countries could meet the actual two percent GDP commitments 849 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.199 twenty twenty one. Again, that's like the next year of 850 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.480 the COVID ridiculous shit. Only six countries could meet the 851 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:56.079 requirements twenty twenty two, seven twenty and that twenty twenty 852 00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.159 two kind of a big year when Russia started their 853 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:04.679 quote unquote three week military special operation twenty twenty three, ten, 854 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.880 twenty twenty four, twenty three. Now I have no idea 855 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.199 what the current guestimations are. They're meeting at this summit 856 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.079 and they're talking about increasing it to five percent. I 857 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.280 have a hard time believing that most of these twenty 858 00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:24.119 three countries most will be able to actually do that, 859 00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.400 But I guess we're gonna see how it goes down. 860 00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.719 This is a direct quote from mister Strollenberg. He says 861 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.119 we are making real progress. European allies are spending more. However, 862 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.920 some allies still have a way to go. The latest 863 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:41.000 increases followed the trend of a gradual rise in defense 864 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:44.719 spending across the Alliance over the last decade. NATO allies 865 00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.400 in Europe invest only one point four to seven of 866 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.599 their collective GDP in defense in twenty fourteen, and Germany's 867 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.159 commitment to NATO's target to spend two percent of the 868 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:57.199 GDP on defense marks the first time it has done 869 00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:02.719 so since the early nineties. So as I'm boosting and 870 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.480 stroking Germany here and talking about how great I think 871 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:09.000 it is, they're finally stepping up in this way. This 872 00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.880 is a really new thing for them as far as 873 00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:14.840 that's concerned. I mean, within the last three decades, this 874 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.719 is the first time they've actually taken this type of 875 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:21.159 a stance. So which nations are not spending two percent 876 00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:25.679 on defense? Eight NATO nations are not estimated to reach 877 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.159 the target of twenty twenty four Croatia one point eight one, 878 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.039 Portugal one point five to five, Italy one point four 879 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:39.880 to nine. Canada. Just in another article we just read, 880 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.639 they were talking about how with America stepping away and 881 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.400 not being the backbone of NATO, Canada would have to 882 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.679 step up and be the backbone, and all these things 883 00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.719 that would be a lie. In twenty twenty four, Canada 884 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.840 only spent one point three to seven of their GDP 885 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:56.079 on their military. That's I heard a joke. This is 886 00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.599 a long time ago. I think it was on a 887 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.360 Boy Meets World episode. As a matter of fact, they 888 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:03.559 were installing a new Jacuzie tub in their house and 889 00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.719 he was like, oh wow, Jacuzzi. He's like, yeh, this 890 00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:08.960 baby's got more jets than the Canadian Air Force. That 891 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.079 was a joke, but at the same time, not exactly 892 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.800 as hilarious as what you might think Canada's military. I've 893 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.320 worked with them, as a matter of fact, and a 894 00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:21.880 couple of different joint force training missions and things like that. 895 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.199 The last time I hung with them was in Yuma, Arizona, 896 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:27.239 at the air station there. They crashed a helicopter in 897 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.840 the middle of the desert. Now, thankfully nobody died or 898 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:35.639 got hurt, but also it's a big desert, bro, what 899 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.840 even happened? None of them could give me a straight answer. 900 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.440 We had a drinking contest with them and we won, obviously, 901 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.199 But yeah, that was They seemed like cool dudes and chicks. 902 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:49.639 I should say that too. The females in the Canadian 903 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:54.480 military seemed like solid, you know, solid soldiers. That being said, 904 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:59.639 you know nothing. They I did like their speed reloaders 905 00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.800 to load a mag for an M sixteen or M 906 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.079 four there's feed reloaders were way better than ours, so 907 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.199 they gave us a few because we won the drinking contest. 908 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:09.599 But anyway, neither here nor there. 909 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:10.159 Uh. 910 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.559 Belgium one point three seven percent, Luxembourg one point three. 911 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.840 I didn't know Luxembourg was a part of NATO, the 912 00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:22.800 only Grand Duchy left on Earth, and somehow they for 913 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.079 the record, they don't have a big population or a 914 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.239 big land area or a big industry or it's like 915 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.280 it's one of those tax haven countries. So I I'm 916 00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.679 kind of shocked that Luxembourg is a part of NATO. 917 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:43.400 But okay, one point three. Slovenia, Uh, I'm sorry, Luxembourg 918 00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.760 was one point twenty nine. Excuse me, uh, Slovenia one 919 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.960 point twenty nine and Spain one point two eight. Gotta say, 920 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.159 I would think that Spain and Portugal would be a 921 00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.480 lot heavier with the military spending, but it also makes sense. 922 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.760 I can't the only time I've ever seen Italy in 923 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.559 the same regard. The only time I've ever seen Italian 924 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:11.280 or Spanish military members was when they would send one 925 00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.599 to two of them to a schoolhouse in America to 926 00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:18.199 get some training. But that was like super specialized training, 927 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:20.440 and it was you know, it could have been a pilot, 928 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.519 It could have been one. I'm getting sent to jump 929 00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:26.239 school one. I'm getting sent for a number of reasons. 930 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.440 A lot of NATO countries cross training with each other, 931 00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.400 and I get that, but come to think of it, 932 00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:35.360 they didn't realize they had such a small military arm 933 00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:37.760 I figured they'd be a little more, a little stronger 934 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.639 in that regard. Anyway, However, all the above listed countries, 935 00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:45.199 apart from Croatia, are spending more on defense than last year, 936 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:48.039 bring them closer to the target. There's been a gradual 937 00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:50.599 increase in defense spending from NATO members across the board, 938 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:54.079 and in twenty twenty three, eleven nations reached the NATO guideline, 939 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.679 up from seven in twenty twenty two. Twenty twenty three, 940 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.079 Poland was the alliance's biggest spender as the share of 941 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:06.960 the GDP, contributing three point nine percent spending wow, even 942 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.320 more as a share of GDP than the United States 943 00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.199 at three point four to nine in second, and Greece 944 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:19.159 at three point zero one the next closest. I did 945 00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.800 not know that Greece was upping their military spending in 946 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.960 this way. That also makes me happy. Okay, I wish 947 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.239 they would change their extradition laws, but I do like 948 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:32.199 that they're taking a stronger defensive posture. This year, Poland 949 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:34.960 has retained its place as the biggest spender, contributing four 950 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:40.159 point one two percent. That is impressive. The US, on 951 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.039 the other hand, is spending less this year than the 952 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.519 previous year, contributing three point three to eight percent, which 953 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.000 is putting it behind Estonia, which is estimated to spend 954 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.519 three point four to three. Wow. Estonia is stepping up. 955 00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:57.320 One trend scene is that country bordering Ukraine, Russia or 956 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.960 its neighbor and ally Belarus, are spending increasingly more following 957 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:05.599 Russia's full scale invasion in February twenty twenty two. In 958 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.960 twenty twenty three, Estonia spent two point seven to three, 959 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.119 Lithuania two point five to four, Finland two point four 960 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.719 to five, Romania two point four to four, Hungary two 961 00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.440 point four to three, and Latvia two point two seven 962 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:24.039 all exceeded the Alliance's guidelines for defense expenditure. Okay, look 963 00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:27.440 at that. Now we talk about the UK's contribution. Uh 964 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:31.519 UK did not make the two percent list. The percentage 965 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.360 spent by Britain on defense rose from two point one 966 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.559 four in twenty twenty four to an estimated two point 967 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.800 three three in twenty twenty three. This is an increase 968 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.320 from last year, which saw the UK spin two point 969 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.159 zero seven of its GDP on defense. In twenty twenty two, 970 00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.119 the UK was the fourth highest proportional spender within NATO, 971 00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.519 but it dropped down to tenth in twenty twenty three, 972 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:56.000 just ahead of Slovakia, the nation's falling short of the 973 00:57:56.039 --> 00:58:03.719 alliance's target in twenty thirty three. Where France, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Albania, 974 00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:11.760 the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Czech Republic, Portugal, Canada, Italy, Slovenia, Turkey, Spain, 975 00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:16.440 Belgium and Luxembourg. Iceland, which does not have any armed forces, 976 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:21.079 was not featured on this list. Fair enough, Iceland doesn't 977 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.440 have any armed forces. I think they have a national police, 978 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:30.480 but nobody, nobody really messes with Iceland. Fair enough anyway. 979 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.639 Thank you Raven Lee for sharing this article with everybody, 980 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.239 So get back to the chat here if anybody would 981 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.400 like to chime in on the NATO spending conversation. I 982 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.079 think that was all I had to bring to the 983 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.239 table on that one this episode. All right, here we go, 984 00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:48.280 Tony chimed in here. Based on Google AI Asian country 985 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:51.719 spend one to three percent of GDP on military. Japan 986 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.480 and China are both around one point five. South Korea 987 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.840 at two point eight. In North Korea unknown but probably high. 988 00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.800 Unknown for sure, I would like to think that North 989 00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:05.719 Korea is spending the majority of their money on their military. 990 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.480 I could be so wrong here. We know they ain't 991 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.840 using it to feed their people, that's for sure. But yeah, 992 00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.920 I'm with you on that. Russia is spending seven percent. 993 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:18.599 Ukraine is spending thirty four percent. Given the current climate 994 00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:22.800 that checks out in Israel spends nine percent. In World 995 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.719 War two, I think the US was forty percent. Yeah, 996 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.159 countries that are in active conflict, that would make sense 997 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:32.920 they're spending way more for their military strength. Anthony, good evening. 998 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.119 Everyone sawry. I'm late. Hey brother, I'm just glad you 999 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.519 were able to stop it. My boy. Hell yeah, welcome. 1000 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.119 Let's see. Okay, Tony, stop it, stop it with the 1001 00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:43.920 flat earth conversations. We have a whole cult live for 1002 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:49.360 these things. Let's see, I'm like that on a lot 1003 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.840 of stuff, the moon landing, JFK assassination. I don't want 1004 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:56.400 to spend any time to really understand it. Yeah, fair enough. 1005 00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:00.519 Let's see. I just did my own episode on simulation theory. 1006 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.000 Oh yeah, that's true. Anthony has launched a podcast, Anthony 1007 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:05.840 and matter of fact, if you want to unmute yourself 1008 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.760 and tell everybody listening to this who's going to be 1009 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.159 listening to it in the following days, shameless plug your 1010 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:12.039 pod brother, please. 1011 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.199 Hey man. So, first off, good evening to everybody. I did. Look, 1012 01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.280 I missed a good bit of the chat. I don't 1013 01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.280 know if I send it on the religious spiel, but they. 1014 01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.519 Asked me about flat Earth and it kind of ties 1015 01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:26.920 it in a little bit. But uh no, So yeah, 1016 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.159 I just I kind of started my own thing. It's 1017 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:33.519 I'm calling it Arcane Adversary. It's on YouTube and Spotify 1018 01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.840 essentially because I'm doing it by myself. I'm just trying 1019 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.079 to do like little ten twenty minute one oh one videos. 1020 01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.239 So the first one I did is on sim theory, 1021 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.760 and it's just a basic overview, so it's kind of 1022 01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:49.760 meant for two people. 1023 01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:52.559 One is the people. 1024 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.880 That are just like brand new into it or they 1025 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.320 just need something to listen to while they're driving to work. 1026 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.480 And then two, it's also kind of meant for if 1027 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.599 you've got somebody that just kind of thinks you're batshit crazy, 1028 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.880 just give them the basic overview and they can listen 1029 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:11.199 to it. 1030 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:13.920 Because I listened to. 1031 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.360 A lot of podcasts, not just you guys, you know, 1032 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.360 and sometimes there's just too much depth and too much 1033 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:23.639 information in a two hour episode. Yeah, so I just 1034 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.960 kind of noticed as a short form, a quality short 1035 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.719 form void in my opinion, so I'm just. 1036 01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.079 Giving a shot at trying to fill it. 1037 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.719 Well, thirty minutes is not short form, honestly, anything over 1038 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:41.039 seven minutes is considered long form content. But I see 1039 01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.360 it to me as far as like bite size manageable 1040 01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.199 because in the realm of pods, yeah, thirty minutes is 1041 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.039 like what would be considered a short show. So I 1042 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.519 feel you on that, Yeah, absolutely, man, I gotta tell you, 1043 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:56.280 simulation theory is a fun one. It is one of 1044 01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:00.559 the only ones that really really messed me up. And 1045 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.639 I mean, y'all know my beliefs. I'm a Christian, I 1046 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.239 believe all these things. I'm a man of science, and 1047 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:07.400 I believe in a lot of history all these things 1048 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:11.519 with you know, a bit of skepticism and a healthy 1049 01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:13.679 dose of salt on top of all of it, for sure. 1050 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:18.679 But simulation theory is one of those that when this 1051 01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:22.079 was early, early, early when me and Jonathan just get 1052 01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.920 when we first joined up to do the cult talking 1053 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:29.440 about simulation theory, not just matrix theory, but just overarching 1054 01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:35.079 what all of this could be would be essentially like 1055 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:40.079 some alien kid or some interdimensional being straight up, honey, 1056 01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:43.119 quit playing with your universe and come to dinner, okay, mom, 1057 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.360 And we call that being God right. And it was 1058 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.480 a mind blow because essentially all of us could be 1059 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:53.519 in PCs on the grand scale, that is, like a 1060 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:58.079 grand theft auto whatever infinity that is our reality, and 1061 01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.119 we would not know any different because we weren't programmed 1062 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.719 to know any different. Uh yeah. And the more the 1063 01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:06.719 more you let your brain cook on that one, the 1064 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.679 more it could really really jack you up. So it's 1065 01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.360 a very fun one to dive into. Go ahead, Anthony, Well, no. 1066 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.000 So what I was gonna say is, like me, personally, 1067 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.239 I don't know if I'm buying it, Like the technological 1068 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:26.880 like matrix of the simulation theory, but like a lot 1069 01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:31.360 of mythologies talk about, like in Hinduism they talk about, 1070 01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.840 you know, Maya the illusion and all that. I was 1071 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.519 just talking to my mom because she kind of listened 1072 01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:41.199 to it and she's not too sure about it. And 1073 01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:43.800 again I'm not a Christian, so I'm gonna like speak 1074 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:45.719 from a basic understanding. 1075 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:47.760 Sure, I believe somewhere it. 1076 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:54.239 Said that God, God knew us from before this life 1077 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.400 and then we were sent here like he created this 1078 01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:01.800 for us. So if we existed somewhere else before and 1079 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.519 we're coming here for a period of time and then 1080 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:10.400 when we die we go somewhere else, I mean that 1081 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:17.559 that could be considered an illusion, a simulation. And then 1082 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.199 one one thing that in the in the research I 1083 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.199 did that I thought was super interesting is I believe 1084 01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:31.440 that Nick Bostrom, he's a physicist, and he essentially posited 1085 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:38.760 a trilemma which is either one human civilization or civilization 1086 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:43.360 at all, has either a never reached the point of 1087 01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:48.199 simulation technology, that we destroyed ourselves before we got to 1088 01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:55.679 that point, or B that an advanced civilization like that 1089 01:04:55.719 --> 01:05:01.679 would have no interest in having a virtual simulation of 1090 01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.800 their ancestors, which with the amount of history buffs out there, 1091 01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.199 I find very hard to believe. Like how many guys 1092 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:13.440 right now would want to go back and live a 1093 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.239 simulation of Viking, a Roman gladiator or whatever. 1094 01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:19.360 Oh dude, even if you're not going to live as 1095 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.599 a part of the simulation, let me just watch it 1096 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:24.039 like a fly on the wall for the Battle of Oker, 1097 01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:29.360 or Alexander the greats big cavalry sweeps or Shaka Zulu 1098 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.559 creating the bullhorn pattern that led to him being the 1099 01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:37.039 military dynasty of the Southern African region. Like, dude, I'm 1100 01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:38.599 with you one hundred percent, Like they would have no 1101 01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.679 interest in going back and checking it, No way, no. 1102 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.440 And then so the third position of that is if 1103 01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:50.239 you don't believe, if you don't believe that civilization has 1104 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:55.360 destroyed itself before reaching a point of being able to 1105 01:05:55.400 --> 01:06:00.920 create a simulation, and if you don't believe that an 1106 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:06.480 advanced civilization would not have any interest in recreating the 1107 01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:10.159 lives of their ancestors, then we most definitely live in 1108 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:15.400 a simulation. And what I didn't tie in there because 1109 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:16.800 I would have had to go on a whole Another 1110 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:22.000 bit is if you think about a simulation is then 1111 01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:26.480 that also ties in the whole NPC theory, you know, 1112 01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:32.360 and the fact that more than likely upwards of ninety 1113 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:38.880 percent of the people in this world are copies of 1114 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.039 an original mind and not an original mind themselves. 1115 01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:46.960 I agree, But also I don't like that. I agree 1116 01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.679 with that with the majority of people being like the 1117 01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:54.280 NPC folk that we talk about, because I believe that 1118 01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:59.559 every individual is a very fascinating and intricate person with 1119 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:03.000 detail and levels and layers to what makes them them. 1120 01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:06.119 I want to believe that, But I cannot tell you 1121 01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.679 how many people I've met that I have worked with 1122 01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:13.639 in the years, throughout even the military construction to whatever, 1123 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:20.360 who like there's no dreams, there's no aspirations, there's no 1124 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:26.079 drive to achieve something more, there's no ambition there. It's 1125 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.000 just kind of they're just kind of there, man, and like, yeah, 1126 01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:30.639 it's just there's my life and there's what I do, 1127 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:35.480 and it's like they're satisfied with the mundane and that 1128 01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:39.239 I personally cannot put those pieces together in my head 1129 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:43.159 of like wait, why why is that? Like that's all 1130 01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:45.199 you want out of life is just to be one 1131 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:49.280 of the herd that sounds like a revolving hell to me. 1132 01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.599 But if you get any of those people one on 1133 01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:55.440 one and you ask them about who they are, about 1134 01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:58.000 their life, about how they got to this point and 1135 01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:01.679 all this, you find a real person with character arcs 1136 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:05.079 and flaws and all the stuff. But it's like that, 1137 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.559 it gets to like a stopping point. And I don't 1138 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:11.840 know where that point comes from or what kind of 1139 01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.840 traumas or past makes a person not want to strive 1140 01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:19.279 for more, be better, or make their mark on this world. 1141 01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:21.880 I don't I don't understand it. I would like to 1142 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.720 believe that most of the people that listen to our 1143 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:32.000 show and to this by default are not among that group, 1144 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.520 right at least the people that tune into these types 1145 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.800 of programs are at least thinking a little more critically 1146 01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.359 than those types. So, I mean, I know me saying 1147 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.319 that it's not offending anybody that might be listening to 1148 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:47.680 this days or weeks after the fact, But no, I'm 1149 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:52.000 with you. That kind of bodes well to play into 1150 01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:56.880 the simulation theory for sure. Yeah. Interesting stuff, man. So 1151 01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:58.800 that was the episode you just released on I haven't 1152 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:02.800 listened to it yet, I will, but yeah, so one 1153 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:06.319 more time, shameless plug. Tell everybody where they can find it. 1154 01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:12.119 Okay, so it's arcane adversary adversary as an enemy, and 1155 01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.319 you can find it on YouTube and Spotify. 1156 01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.239 Essentially, I guess you could call it. 1157 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.039 My gimmick is I'm challenging everything, like kind of my 1158 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:22.960 you know, Colt has got open up your third eye. 1159 01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.039 Mine is, don't just question everything, challenge everything. 1160 01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:31.479 I like that. I like that a lot. Dude. Let's 1161 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:35.079 see Tony sent a link. What is this one? Wikipedia? 1162 01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:40.800 Maria or Maria Jesus Christ Maria? I got. That's not 1163 01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.439 Mary Candle, that's a Virgin of Guadalupe Candle. But yeah, 1164 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:44.560 tell me about Maria Monk. 1165 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:50.039 Maria Monk was a famous woman in the early eighteen hundreds. 1166 01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:52.199 And the reason I brought this up is because we 1167 01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:55.800 were talking quite a lot about this recent Irish nun 1168 01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.800 scandal yesterday where allegedly eight hundred bodies of babies were 1169 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:04.239 found in a septic tank. I got a headline here 1170 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:07.920 that says eight hundred infant remains found in septic tank 1171 01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:11.119 at none run Irish unwed mother and baby home from 1172 01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.199 Fox nine and Minnesota. Then if you read the actual article, 1173 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:18.399 it says oh yeah, seven hundred and ninety six died 1174 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.960 between the nineteen twenties and nineteen sixty one, and I 1175 01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:24.600 kind of doubt that all eight hundred of them would 1176 01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:26.960 end up in a septic tank. But I can see 1177 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.399 how they just want the headline to look that way. 1178 01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.399 And who knows what happened to them. It sounds like 1179 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:34.640 records were lost or there was records of them at 1180 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:39.920 some point and the record stopped, so they must have died. 1181 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:46.239 But this Maria character, this is not from recently. If 1182 01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:50.039 I can just read from the Wikipedia article real quick, 1183 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.000 it does a good job summing this up. She lived 1184 01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:55.920 from eighteen sixteen to eighteen forty nine. Maria Monk was 1185 01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.199 a Canadian woman whose book Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk, 1186 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:02.960 or the Hidden Secrets of a Nun's Life and a 1187 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.640 Convent Exposed, published in eighteen thirty six when she was 1188 01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:11.479 twenty years old, claimed to exposed systematic sexual abuse of 1189 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.439 nuns and infanticide of the resulting children by Catholic priests 1190 01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:22.239 in her convent in Montreal. This was a hoax. She 1191 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:27.640 was never in a convent. She was in a mental 1192 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:32.159 institution that was run by nuns and picking and choosing 1193 01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:39.239 from throughout the Wikipedia article. This was a very influential book. 1194 01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:44.880 According to the American Protestant Vindicator. By July eighteen thirty six, 1195 01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.119 the book had sold twenty six thousand copies, and it's 1196 01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:52.359 been described also as probably the mostly widely read contemporary 1197 01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:57.279 book in the United States before Uncle Tom's Cabin. So 1198 01:11:57.640 --> 01:11:59.479 that's a book everyone's heard of, and this one was 1199 01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:05.760 second place. Wow, but everybody believed it. But investigations, not 1200 01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:10.239 only by Catholic sources but also a Protestant minister from 1201 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:14.760 New York visited the convent and concluded, Okay, it doesn't 1202 01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:17.640 match her description. She was saying that there were tunnels 1203 01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:21.239 for people to run through underground. There weren't tunnels. She 1204 01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:25.279 basically never been there. But it struck a nerve and 1205 01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:27.680 it sold tons of copies and a lot of people 1206 01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:31.439 believed it. So this kind of thing happens. It also 1207 01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.359 reminds me of the whole blood libel thing. And you know, 1208 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:37.720 some people, if they hear about Jews murdering kids, they'll 1209 01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:41.319 automatically believe it, and other people should. You know, people 1210 01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:43.880 should be skeptical of that kind of thing. And as 1211 01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:47.000 I was saying, yesterday. There have been people who've murdered babies, 1212 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.000 for example, the Japanese in Nanjing. 1213 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:50.359 Yeah, I mean it. 1214 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.079 Has happened, but I'd say like seventy five percent of 1215 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:56.920 the time. These things are made up for sensationalism. And 1216 01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.720 as you can hear, I gotta go and meet myself 1217 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:00.600 very much. 1218 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.720 Heard that. Heard that. So I've never heard of this 1219 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.680 book or Maria Monk, So thank you for bringing this 1220 01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.600 to our attention. And yeah, as you read into the Wikipedia, 1221 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.359 it shows that it was a hoake. It is known 1222 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:14.800 that Monk lived in an asylum in her early years, 1223 01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:17.000 and that one of the nuns mentioned in her story 1224 01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:20.319 was actually a fellow patient in the asylum. There is 1225 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:23.359 some evidence that Monks had suffered a brain injury as 1226 01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:26.439 a child one. A possible result of the alleged injury 1227 01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:29.439 could be that Monk might have been manipulated and might 1228 01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.960 not be able to distinguish between fact and fantasy. Another 1229 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.840 possible result of the alleged injury could be that Monk 1230 01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:39.159 had little understanding of the devastating results of her claim. 1231 01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.560 It has been suggested, though not proven, that Monk was 1232 01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:45.880 manipulated into playing a role for profit by her publisher 1233 01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:50.439 or her ghostwriters, scholars and consider the book a hoax. 1234 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:55.159 So that being said, I have never heard of this one, 1235 01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:59.199 But yes, there's all kinds of stories that get sensationalized 1236 01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:03.039 to Tony's with things like this, especially with anti Catholic sentiments, 1237 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:05.000 and the same way that he brought up with anti 1238 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:09.840 Jewish sentiments. One story happens where Jewish soldiers are in 1239 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.720 Gaza and they're just ripping babies apart, and it's like that, 1240 01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:15.600 I would like to see the source on that. And 1241 01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.000 you have half of the readers that will believe it 1242 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.039 instantly with no other reasons in or context, and you 1243 01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:22.800 have half of the readers that are gonna say that's 1244 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:28.239 probably farcical. Right, So all that to be said, I 1245 01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:34.079 understand why the Irish Nun situation with the babies in 1246 01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.560 the septic tank seems like it could be a hoax. 1247 01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:39.119 And I'm not saying that it's one hundred percent of fact. 1248 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.079 I did a little more digging into it today. Doesn't 1249 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.600 look fake as of this moment. I I God, for 1250 01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.880 the love of Jesus, I hope it is. I hope 1251 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.359 that it is an attempt to smear the Catholic Church. 1252 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:57.079 And that it is not something that actually took place. 1253 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.720 As of this moment, it really does look like it's 1254 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:04.560 got some some validity to it, but I guess time 1255 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:09.079 will tell. We shall see, all right. Now back to 1256 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.439 the articles that I have prepared. Let's get off the 1257 01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:16.680 Maria Monk one. So this is interesting. Let's talk a 1258 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.199 little bit about bricks and AI. I don't know if 1259 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:22.720 anybody has heard about this, but Bricks, for anybody who 1260 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.439 doesn't know, is a group of countries that are trying 1261 01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:32.439 to break away from using the USD as the international currency. 1262 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.520 Right it's comprised the majority of them anyway. The first 1263 01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:41.279 five were Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Bricks that's 1264 01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:44.199 the acronym. There's more countries that have joined SINS, but 1265 01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:48.560 not many, and not many like that you would necessarily 1266 01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:53.199 worry about. But now Bricks is making the first declaration 1267 01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:58.560 on AI governance to be adopted organically within the organization. 1268 01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:03.920 Long story short, Bricks and specifically Russia and specifically India 1269 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:09.039 are trying to become the dominant superpower in the AI conversation. 1270 01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:12.079 Let's dive into it. This is a quick article and 1271 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.600 then I've got another one about Russia itself. So BRICKS 1272 01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:19.039 countries will adopt the world's first joint declaration on principles 1273 01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:22.560 for the governance of AI during the upcoming summit in 1274 01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.600 Rio de jan Naro in July. The Brick Summit will 1275 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.880 adopt a declaration on AI governance. It must serve all 1276 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:35.239 countries at Brazilian President Louise and Nasio Louise Anasio Lula 1277 01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:38.880 da Silva. Sorry, that's a lot of names. During a 1278 01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:42.439 speech broadcast on the government's YouTube channel, the Brazilian leader 1279 01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.640 added that the lack of uniform rules for regulating AI 1280 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:50.720 only benefits large corporations. Artificial intelligence is revolutionizing the foundation 1281 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:54.720 of production and education. The opportunities that are opening up 1282 01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:58.840 are limitless, but the risks are no less, he emphasized. 1283 01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:03.479 Earlier member of the Federal Senate of Brazil, Omberto Costa 1284 01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.039 A Costa, I'm not sure how they pronounce it with Portuguese, 1285 01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:09.600 spoke in favor of developing common rules for the governance 1286 01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:12.039 of AI. He also pointed to the need to reduce 1287 01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:16.479 the technological dependence of BRICKS members on Western countries. That's 1288 01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.359 their whole stick, that's their whole thing. Is they're trying 1289 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:22.119 to break away from the need of the West and 1290 01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:27.520 just be something completely independent and free. Even though of 1291 01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:29.960 those countries just listed, the big dogs of it would 1292 01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:35.479 be India, China, Russia. Those three couldn't exist without the West. 1293 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:39.359 But that's a talk for another day, I suppose. Now 1294 01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:41.760 that was kind of short sweetened to the point. Now 1295 01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.720 let's talk a little deeper about it. Yeah, So Russia 1296 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:50.119 aims to ride the bricks to AI victory. The United 1297 01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:53.520 States must firm up its own coalition of AI collaborators. 1298 01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:56.720 As the AI competition between the United States and China 1299 01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:59.520 heats up, Vladimir Putin is desperate to have a horse 1300 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.800 in the race. The Russian president views AI as a 1301 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.640 core pillar of Moscow's long term plan to challenge Western dominance. 1302 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:11.000 After three years of Western sanctions devastating Russia's economy, spurring 1303 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:16.079 a massive brain drain and hindering the country's innovative capacity. Again, 1304 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:18.960 there's a reason for that, but neither here nor there. 1305 01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:23.319 Moscow has turned to the bricks Block, whose founding members 1306 01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:26.560 include Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, to build 1307 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.720 a parallel AI ecosystem. Washington must stop viewing bricks as 1308 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.159 a politically benign organization and recognize that it is a 1309 01:18:34.199 --> 01:18:37.880 powerful vehicle for Moscow to expand its international influence and 1310 01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:42.880 strengthen Russia's AI capabilities. Is a direct quote here. Those 1311 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:46.479 who will secure leadership in this domain will become a 1312 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:50.680 global master, Putin proclaimed in twenty seventeen. Since then, he 1313 01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:54.520 has implemented a series of strategic directives intended to catalyze 1314 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:59.199 Russia's AI sector. Putin's twenty twenty one National Security Strategy 1315 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:03.800 stresses the integration of advanced technologies, including AI to bolster 1316 01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:07.479 national defense and economic resilience. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs 1317 01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:11.000 in twenty twenty three's concept of the Foreign Policy emphasizes 1318 01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:15.399 the importance of AI industry growth and strategic cooperation within BRICKS, 1319 01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.199 and last year, Russia updated its National Strategy for the 1320 01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:23.079 Development of Artificial Intelligence through twenty thirty, which outlines the 1321 01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:27.079 formation of research and development programs to prepare quote Russian 1322 01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:31.359 artificial intelligence technologies to occupy a significant share of the 1323 01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:36.520 global market. For Putin. BRICKS constitutes the ideal route for 1324 01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:40.279 international collaboration. Over the past year, the group has doubled 1325 01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:46.199 from five to ten members, adding Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, 1326 01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:49.760 and the UAE. Again, like I said, none of the 1327 01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:53.319 countries that you would necessarily be concerned with Iran only 1328 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.439 as of the past week, But we are about to 1329 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.800 get to Iran in a whole other conversation. Trust Me 1330 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:03.520 now comprises thirty five percent of the global economy, with 1331 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:07.840 an additional dozen nations it has designated as partner countries. 1332 01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:12.600 These would be the middlemen, all right, not trying to 1333 01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:15.760 take this opportunity to shit on bricks. But also why 1334 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:19.680 not so whenever all these sanctions went out against these countries, 1335 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:22.439 and it wasn't specifically bricks countries, but they were the 1336 01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:26.239 countries that suffered some of the heaviest tariffs and things 1337 01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:30.119 in the sanctions, not just from America but from the 1338 01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:34.319 European powers as well. These countries just started using third 1339 01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.319 party countries to move their material. That's all it was. 1340 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:39.479 They just used these other countries as like a fence, 1341 01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:44.960 like out of nowhere. Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan were like their 1342 01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:48.159 economy was booming, and it's like, well, where where did 1343 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.840 all this new things come from? Because Russia was using 1344 01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:53.560 them as a middleman to fence their oil because no 1345 01:20:53.720 --> 01:20:56.359 country could buy Russian oil, but you could take a 1346 01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.800 barrel of Russian oil and slap a Uzbek sticker on 1347 01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.199 it and you could sell Uzbeki oil as much as 1348 01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:05.439 you want. Uzbek. Yeah, yeah, you could do that. And 1349 01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:07.319 there was other countries that did the exact same thing. 1350 01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:12.840 So again with these fifteen countries that they're having as 1351 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:16.560 or sorry a dozen nations that are designated as partner countries, 1352 01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:21.199 it's their fences. That's about it. But moving on Bricks 1353 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:25.000 is involve evolving into a strategic hub for AI development 1354 01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:28.720 and governance. Bricks has placed AI governance at the top 1355 01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:32.319 of its agenda, establishing an AI study group to quote 1356 01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:38.439 develop AI governance frameworks and standards. Yes, that's what they're 1357 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:42.199 wanting to do. It's for industry. It's super not for 1358 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:48.920 espionage and military means whatsoever. They would never use super 1359 01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:53.800 advanced AI for that, of course not. Oh, let's get 1360 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:56.800 back to it. A recent analysis from Moscow based consultants 1361 01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:01.439 Yakov and Partners indicates this prarioritiz of AI innovation is 1362 01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:05.359 yielding results. One hundred of the largest companies in bricks 1363 01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:09.119 nations are shifting away from Western models like open AI 1364 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:14.600 toward emerging Chinese, Russian and Immoradi models. Yakov and partners 1365 01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:19.760 projects AI could generate three hundred and fifty billion to 1366 01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:23.119 six hundred billion dollars of value for bricks economies by 1367 01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:26.920 twenty thirty. Putin is positioning Russia to be the leader 1368 01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:30.279 of the organization's AI push. At a summit in October, 1369 01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:34.520 Bricks Countries discuss implementing Russian and Chinese AI infrastructure in 1370 01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:40.199 quote unquote global South nations to yield a more balanced 1371 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:49.800 multipolar world order. A more balanced multipolar world order. Y'all 1372 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:52.159 let that one marinate as long as you need. Russia 1373 01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.520 has since led the formation of a Bricks AI Alliance Network, 1374 01:22:55.640 --> 01:23:00.279 a strategic initiative promoting collaborative, joint research and regulation. SCO 1375 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:04.199 has also encouraged Bricks to adopt Russia's Code of AI Ethics, 1376 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:09.399 signaling Putin's intent on taking leadership on international AI governance. 1377 01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:12.960 The Code has already attracted interest from a large scale 1378 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:18.119 professional community, with over two hundred signators of from organizations 1379 01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:22.000 and countries around the world. After meeting with Putin at 1380 01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:26.079 the October Bricks summit, Delma Russev, president of Bricks, main 1381 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.680 financial leader New Development Bank, Yes, they even started their 1382 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.960 own bank to do this. Also announced support for bricks, 1383 01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:39.479 new stages of maturation, maturation, maturation, there you go, and 1384 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:43.359 new areas of cooperation. In May, Russeph announced that the 1385 01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:47.439 bank's plans to fully embrace AI and called Chinese AI 1386 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:51.359 company Deep Seek an inspiring case for the global South. 1387 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:55.760 Never mind the fact that deep Seek was literally chat 1388 01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:58.279 GPT that they stole from us, and we know that 1389 01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.960 because we caught them red hand, and they the file 1390 01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:05.319 that they were using had a digital footprint that could 1391 01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:09.239 be traced back to I'm not mistaken was the Pentagon 1392 01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.399 And for like a month when you would talk to 1393 01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:17.199 deep Seek, it would answer you as chat GPT. So again, 1394 01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:20.479 it's not like they're super advanced. They're just stealing and 1395 01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:24.119 jumping ahead of the competition because there's too many people 1396 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:28.199 in this country that are just using AI like it 1397 01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:31.920 is the next greatest things since sliced bread and don't 1398 01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:35.119 really pay attention to if it's a secure network or not. 1399 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:39.039 And they're also using it on phones that have certain 1400 01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:43.439 apps of the shopping and the social variety that are 1401 01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:47.479 all linked to CCP servers. But you know, hey, what 1402 01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:51.479 do I know? Meanwhile, outside of the bricks structure, Russia 1403 01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:55.319 is expanding its partnership with other US adversaries. In December, 1404 01:24:55.359 --> 01:25:02.359 Putin tasked Spurbank spur Bank that is an unfortunate name 1405 01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:08.199 Russia with EXPANDINGAI cooperation with China. The following month, the 1406 01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:12.319 two countries formalize their Joint Declarational Cooperation in AI, which 1407 01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:16.600 identifies avenues for collaboration, including establishing a working group for 1408 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:21.000 AI regulation and application, integrating China's Digital silk Road with 1409 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:27.960 Russia's Eurasian Economic Union digital projects, the developing joint AI models. Likewise, 1410 01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:32.159 after friendly and constructive discussions at the October summit, Moscow 1411 01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:37.119 and Tehran unveiled a comprehensive strategic partnership agreement to developed 1412 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:42.720 direct contacts between interested educational and scientific institutions for technical 1413 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:47.800 and research programs and projects. Iranian President Mussad Possesskin probably 1414 01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:51.399 butchered that don't care, asserted that the agreement will help 1415 01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:56.680 neutralize all the sanctions that the US has imposed against US. Yeah, 1416 01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:59.880 that whole as breaks for you. It's just going against 1417 01:25:59.920 --> 01:26:01.960 the West, and by the West they mean just the US. 1418 01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:06.720 But whatever, bricks is becoming a refuge for all malicious 1419 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:10.640 actors to collaborate and rally against Western sanctions. It is 1420 01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:14.199 no longer a fledgling organization, but rather a growing coalition 1421 01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:18.279 standing against US interests. So far, America has relied on 1422 01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.920 export controls on advanced semiconductors to hinder the ability of 1423 01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:25.239 its main rival China to innovate. Washington must up the 1424 01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:29.279 ante and apply such expert or export controls to all 1425 01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:33.319 countries in the Bricks AI Alliance. This could stifle innovations 1426 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:37.960 among US adversaries, while also incentivizing more neutrally oriented BRICKS 1427 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.960 members to partner and partner countries to distance themselves from 1428 01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:45.800 the organization. Russia is gaining traction in the AI race 1429 01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.880 because of its AI alliance with Bricks. The United States 1430 01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:52.359 needs to own AI alliance or it needs its own 1431 01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:56.640 AI alliance, a global network of like minded democracies if 1432 01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:59.680 Washington hopes to stay in the lead. In addition to 1433 01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.359 both during R and D capacities, such a coalition can 1434 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:06.800 establish comprehensive norms and laws around AI security. Determining a 1435 01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:10.000 framework for international AI governance is the next frontier in 1436 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:14.960 the AI race. Okay, A lot of things to unpack 1437 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.680 on that one. I understand. But yeah, before we get 1438 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:24.199 into the Iran conversation. Although this kind of bled into 1439 01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:26.479 that a little bit here. If anybody has any things 1440 01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:28.920 they would like to join in and add in on 1441 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.239 this one, please, by all means unmute yourself and let 1442 01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:31.760 it be heard. 1443 01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:37.960 Sounds like Briggs needs some democracy America. 1444 01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.720 Hey, I like where your head's at. I do, and I. 1445 01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:45.560 Mean although yeah, but. 1446 01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:49.399 Also on the other side of that, like I kind 1447 01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:52.880 of gotta agree with Jacob at this point with how 1448 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:56.840 dirty our government is. I'm not saying China or Russia 1449 01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:59.800 is any better, but I'm hoping to hear what the 1450 01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:01.479 I don't know how to say. 1451 01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:08.880 Yeah, I hear you. I So when bricks started, it 1452 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:12.119 was strictly an economic thing. They were trying to get 1453 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.920 off the USD for global trade. They were trying to 1454 01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:20.680 lean very heavily into crypto anything, anything and everything they 1455 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:23.359 could do to break off of the West and quote 1456 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:28.399 unquote by West they mean jump off of America's tid. Okay, 1457 01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:31.600 I at least understand on paper what their goal was. 1458 01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:35.520 Easier said than done, because America does kind of run 1459 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.520 shit as far as the world is concerned, and we 1460 01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:39.640 have for quite some time, and as long as we 1461 01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:42.680 continue what we're doing, we may in d continue to 1462 01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:46.319 do so. But with the advancements in AI that's going 1463 01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:51.079 on right now, and knowing that so much of America's 1464 01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:57.399 AI infrastructure has been stolen and you know, back engineered 1465 01:28:57.520 --> 01:28:59.920 by these countries that are doing it for their own purposes, 1466 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:02.800 I know, I know that I have all of the 1467 01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:05.800 distrust when it comes to AI, and I'm very comfortable 1468 01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.239 dying on that hill. I get it. That being said, 1469 01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.439 all of the countries that were listed, with the exception 1470 01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:18.680 of India and the UAE, are not necessarily our allies 1471 01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:23.680 by any stretch of the imagination. So and I mean 1472 01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:27.479 India really depends on depends on the day. Right, half 1473 01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:29.840 the time they hate China, the other half they're getting 1474 01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:32.640 in real tight with China. Half the time they cannot 1475 01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:34.720 stand Russia. The other half the time they're trying to 1476 01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:38.199 make a new trade deal with Russia. So I understand 1477 01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:41.039 right India is doing what they believe is best for India. 1478 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.880 No judgment or shade throne from me on that one. 1479 01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:49.640 This being said, I don't believe that they are going 1480 01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:53.319 to be making these AI advancements to better although on paper, 1481 01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:55.960 like we just read it's for their economy, it's for 1482 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.840 the new AI industries that are going to be opening 1483 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:00.920 up and all these things, and yeah that there will 1484 01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:03.960 be a fair amount of that. I don't see that 1485 01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:09.359 going strictly that way because business and military industrial complex 1486 01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:12.359 go hand in hand, and most of the countries that 1487 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:14.399 were just listed would like to get their slice of 1488 01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:17.159 the pie as far as a global military industrial complex 1489 01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.800 is concerned. That's just what I see from my angle. Anthony, 1490 01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:25.000 go ahead, So I'm just I'm. 1491 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:29.079 Just curious, from your perspective, how would it be any 1492 01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:35.920 different under America, Like if we're being like it's granted 1493 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:42.279 it's not communism, you know, but really the only difference 1494 01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:46.279 is like over there, like over here, the the iron 1495 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:50.199 fist has the velvet glove, you. 1496 01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:50.720 Know what I mean. 1497 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:52.640 So it's it's it's almost. 1498 01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:57.680 To the lay person, right, why does this actually matter? 1499 01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:02.079 So it matters as far as just from my perspective here, 1500 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:04.960 we are not in open conflict with any of the 1501 01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:07.760 countries that were listed, but all the countries that were 1502 01:31:07.760 --> 01:31:10.319 listed are at We're not all most of the countries 1503 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:14.640 listed are adversaries of ours. I don't want our adversaries 1504 01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:17.680 to have any kind of upper hand or leverage over us. 1505 01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:21.960 It's not necessarily saying that it would be better or 1506 01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:24.520 worse in the hands of our government. They're just as 1507 01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:27.560 dirty as any other government across the world. I'm with 1508 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:30.840 you one hundred percent on that. But as far as 1509 01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.039 me laying my head on my pillow at night in 1510 01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:37.720 my country, I want our country to remain at the 1511 01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:40.600 top of the pecking order in any and all things 1512 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:44.000 in this regard, not just defense, not just economy, not 1513 01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:46.520 just all of it, all of it. I know our 1514 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:49.520 government's lying to us, we all do. I'm with you 1515 01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:52.880 one hundred percent, But again, I also know what to 1516 01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:55.359 expect from my government. I don't know what to expect 1517 01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:58.079 from Putin. I don't know what to expect from Mody 1518 01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:01.399 or g or any of these other ones. I do 1519 01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:05.000 know that they don't have good intentions with us, and 1520 01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:07.680 if they are trying to not only break away from 1521 01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:10.279 being under our umbrella, if you want to call it that, 1522 01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:13.680 and they're trying to formulate their own I don't believe 1523 01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:15.680 that it's doing it. I don't believe any of these 1524 01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:18.000 countries are doing it just for their own interests. I 1525 01:32:18.039 --> 01:32:20.640 believe that they are probably doing it with ill intent 1526 01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:25.520 towards us. That's just my own skepticism towards it all. 1527 01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:27.720 If that makes sense. 1528 01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:30.640 I don't disagree with you. I just wanted to ask 1529 01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:31.239 the question. 1530 01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:32.600 No doubt, no doubt. 1531 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:36.800 I feel that I'm Henri as well. But I'm with you. 1532 01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:37.600 I'm just. 1533 01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:42.520 I feel that, No, there's no dumb questions out here. 1534 01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:44.720 Let's get it all out there. And if I am wrong, 1535 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:49.960 I hope i'm wrong. I hope that if Jizjaping creates 1536 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:53.199 a way better ai model than America could ever produce, 1537 01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:56.399 then he would use it strictly to better China. But 1538 01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:59.920 I can't envision a world where doing better for China 1539 01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:05.119 doesn't also unilaterally screw America. If there is a version 1540 01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:08.640 of that that is possible, then I will happily eat 1541 01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:11.920 my words. I just don't envision that as of this moment. 1542 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:14.920 And it's not just because the whole China Taiwan conversation 1543 01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:16.880 and the same thing with Russia. It's not just because 1544 01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:21.199 of the Russia Ukraine situation. It is the overarching theme 1545 01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:26.119 of this is a win loose situation. The entirety of 1546 01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:29.159 history is written by the winners. I for one, would 1547 01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:32.119 like to stay within the lines of the winning side. 1548 01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:35.600 That's just it. Maybe I'm just showing all of my 1549 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:39.279 American biases, but that's kind of the point. All these 1550 01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:42.119 countries are biased in their own regards, and I don't 1551 01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:46.640 see what's good for China isn't neutral to America. I 1552 01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:49.159 see certain things as far as what's good for China 1553 01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:53.079 being mutually beneficial for America. Sure, certain things, But I 1554 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:56.199 also don't want us to have to come to China 1555 01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:58.800 to make any kind of new advancements in AI happen, 1556 01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:01.880 because they're the first wants to start making real big 1557 01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.680 changes in restrictions on AI as a whole. That's I 1558 01:34:05.720 --> 01:34:07.960 would like for us to have our own say in 1559 01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:12.680 that conversation. That's all. But anyway, good question. By the way, 1560 01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:17.319 enough said Steph says she had to bounce early. Good night, Stephanie, 1561 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:20.199 glad you could join us for this evening. All right. 1562 01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:24.079 So while we were talking about Iran, who is by 1563 01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:26.760 and large an enemy of the United States, I did 1564 01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:32.279 want to talk about this, the exiled Crown Prince of Iran, who, yeah, 1565 01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:37.159 he hadn't lived there ever since the revolution, Islamic Republic 1566 01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:40.920 collapsing in Iran. Okay, this was released today. As a 1567 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:45.439 matter of fact, Reza paul LEVI, I'm probably butchering the 1568 01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:49.359 name again. I apologize. I speak the American English. The 1569 01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:53.680 exiled Crown Prince of Iran and Iran and son of 1570 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:57.880 the last Persian sa Shah, Yeah, the last Persian sha 1571 01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:01.479 urged Iranians on Tuesday TI to prepare for the impending 1572 01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:05.760 fall of the Supreme Leader Ayatola Khamani and the Islamic 1573 01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:09.319 Republic as the country struggles to fight off attacks from Israel. 1574 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:13.079 Is a direct quote. The Islamic Republic has reached its 1575 01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:16.840 in and is in the process of collapsing. Kamane, like 1576 01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.760 a frightened rat, has gone into hiding underground and has 1577 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:24.439 lost control of the situation. What has begun is irreversible. 1578 01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:27.079 The future is bright and together we will pass through 1579 01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:32.319 this sharp turn in history. Now pause two seconds, everybody. 1580 01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:36.239 This is an exile crown prince who the people have seen. 1581 01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:42.720 As you know, he's not in the conversation and he 1582 01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:45.640 hasn't been in the conversation for a good long while. 1583 01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:52.960 He's considered irrelevant by most Iranians. Iranians whatever, however, the 1584 01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:56.760 Ayatola has been slowly but surely losing favor with the 1585 01:35:56.840 --> 01:36:00.239 people in the past few years, not just it's the 1586 01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:03.319 Israel Gaza conversation. It's been a slow death by a 1587 01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:06.119 thousand paper cuts. And I'm not saying that what's happening 1588 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:08.319 right now is going to be the final thing that 1589 01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:11.279 ends it all for him. But from all the reports 1590 01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:16.000 that I am reading, the Ayatola is not seen as 1591 01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.560 the answer to all the problems like he once was. 1592 01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:21.760 The Crown Prince, although he has been exiled for quite 1593 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:25.840 some time, he has more of the people's ear now 1594 01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:28.119 than he has in the last few decades. And I'm 1595 01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:31.920 not saying it's a majority, like any means, but it 1596 01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:35.159 only takes eleven percent of a population for a revolution 1597 01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:39.199 to happen. So keeping that in mind, as he is 1598 01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:43.159 making these posts, it's very possible that the Crown Prince 1599 01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:45.880 is making these posts happen and it will just go 1600 01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:48.439 off into the ether and it will fall short and 1601 01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:52.560 he will never return to Iran. It's very possible. But 1602 01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:55.920 if there was ever a time to dethrone the Ayahtola 1603 01:36:56.640 --> 01:37:01.319 and retake control of Iran, I would argue that that 1604 01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:06.479 time is rapidly approaching, so let's continue here. The military 1605 01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:11.039 conflict between Iran and Israel stretched into its fifth day Tuesday, 1606 01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:13.520 so this is written on Tuesday, with little signs of 1607 01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:17.399 slowing as Israel hammers its Middle East rival over Tehran's 1608 01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:21.560 nuclear pursuits. President Trump departed the Group of Seventh summit 1609 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:25.039 of World leaders in Canada last Monday, a day earlier 1610 01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:28.920 than expected, to return to Washington to monitor the ongoing conflict. 1611 01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.600 He met with top security officials in the Situation Room 1612 01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:34.840 on Tuesday to assess the developments. He has not ruled 1613 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:39.800 out the possibility of US military involvement. Paulavi, the Pallavi 1614 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:44.640 dynasty ruled Iran from nineteen twenty five to nineteen seventy nine, 1615 01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:49.479 when it was overthrown in the Islamic Revolution. Polavi, pinning 1616 01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:52.800 his social media posts in English and Farsi, directed the 1617 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:57.279 message to his fellow countrymen and encouraged and uprising. He 1618 01:37:57.319 --> 01:37:59.520 goes on to say, now is the time to rise, 1619 01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:02.279 the time to reclaim Iran, he wrote, let us all 1620 01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:05.119 come forward and bring about the end of this regime. 1621 01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:08.560 He advised that there is a plan to establish a 1622 01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:11.720 democratic government in Iran within one hundred days of the 1623 01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:15.560 collapse of the Islamic Republic. Also hard pause. I find 1624 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:19.399 it interesting that a crown prince says that there is 1625 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:24.479 a plan to establish a democratic government. I don't know. 1626 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.359 Maybe it's going to be something akin to how we 1627 01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:30.079 have like British royalty and then also the parliament or 1628 01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:33.479 something along those lines. I don't know what his goals are, 1629 01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:38.119 but all right. He also urged military, law enforcement, security forces, 1630 01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:40.600 and state employees to join the effort to topple the 1631 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:44.600 government under Kamani. Do not stand against the Iranian people 1632 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:47.199 for the sake of a regime whose fail has begun 1633 01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:50.560 and is inevitable, he wrote. Do not sacrifice yourselves for 1634 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:54.399 a decaying regime. By standing with the people, you can 1635 01:38:54.479 --> 01:38:57.600 save your lives, play a historic role in the transition 1636 01:38:57.680 --> 01:38:59.920 from the Islamic Republic, and take part in building the 1637 01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:03.880 future of Iran. He added, So again, I don't know 1638 01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:06.119 if this is just gonna fall on deaf fears and 1639 01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:08.600 just be one of those Internet posts from a jaded 1640 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:14.920 exiled royal family member, or if this may have some 1641 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:18.039 legs to it and gain some traction. I think it's 1642 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.479 going to be very interesting to see and as of 1643 01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:22.880 this moment, I still don't believe that America is about 1644 01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:27.279 to actually get involved with this conflict. Israel is more 1645 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:31.039 than capable of handling Iran. They're more than capable of 1646 01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:35.199 doing so. I actually recently today I reached out to 1647 01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:36.720 a couple of my buddies that I served with that 1648 01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:39.439 are still in, just like, hey, have you heard anything 1649 01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.920 about a potential movement into Iran or whatever the case is. 1650 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:46.039 None of them have heard anything of the sort. And 1651 01:39:46.079 --> 01:39:50.319 granted it's not like these are high level, upper fed 1652 01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:52.960 type guys there. There are ground pounders like most of 1653 01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:55.079 the guys I served with that are still in. Some 1654 01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:57.880 of them went Mustang and they're like captains now. Most 1655 01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:01.000 of them are in the staff n COO ranked. But 1656 01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:04.399 still they would at least kind of hear some murmurs 1657 01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:09.680 being said about possible things. Nothing, nothing to insinuate that 1658 01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.880 America is about to make a move into Iran. So 1659 01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.640 we shall see how it plays out, Tony, go ahead, brother, 1660 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:16.560 that's all your hand raised. 1661 01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:20.520 Oh yeah, I've heard of this Pilavi family for sure, 1662 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:23.960 and I think they have overall pretty good intentions, but 1663 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:26.840 they don't have any real support with any Ran. Neither 1664 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.359 does the Mujahideena khalk who is another group that's referenced. 1665 01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:34.479 Sometimes there's really nobody waiting in the wings with more 1666 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:38.079 than single digit support. It's a similar thing with Russia. 1667 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:40.880 A lot of people want regime change in Russia, but 1668 01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:43.760 there is nobody else waiting in the wings with enough 1669 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:47.840 support that it could really happen. But this brings up 1670 01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:53.359 another more philosophical point that democracy is just a word 1671 01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:56.760 that's used all the time, but there's no country on 1672 01:40:56.800 --> 01:41:00.199 earth that is perfectly democratic, and there's no country on 1673 01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:03.520 earth that is completely undemocratic. I think all countries are 1674 01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:06.439 somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, and every country 1675 01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:09.039 and every society, whether it's a government or not, has 1676 01:41:09.039 --> 01:41:12.720 a different way of deciding. What kinds of decisions get 1677 01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:16.920 made in a democratic way, and what decisions get made 1678 01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:20.119 by somebody who's appointed or inherited the role or some 1679 01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:23.399 other way. And honestly, whenever I have to vote for 1680 01:41:23.479 --> 01:41:27.680 judges and local elections, I kind of find it annoying. 1681 01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:30.159 I don't know who these people are, and it's the 1682 01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:33.039 democratic process, but I don't really trust myself even to 1683 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.279 make a lot of these decisions. And most people COVID 1684 01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:38.359 should have shown us that most people just want to 1685 01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:41.960 be told what to do. And yeah, democracy, I think 1686 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.800 is an admirable thing in some ways, and that the 1687 01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:48.880 population should have some say over how their countries run. 1688 01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:52.680 But most people don't actually really want that much of 1689 01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:55.880 a say or know what to do with it if 1690 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:59.439 they have it. So that's why you know, countries that 1691 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:03.479 are very democratic tend to swing away from it eventually 1692 01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:05.039 like a pendulum. 1693 01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:07.359 Sadly, I am forced to agree with you. 1694 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:11.640 On yeah, yeah, I think Plai he wants Iran to 1695 01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:15.239 be somewhat democratic. He doesn't want it to be optocracy, 1696 01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.359 but he doesn't want full democracy either. And where every 1697 01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:21.920 individual and every society draws that line at what decisions 1698 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:25.279 get made by referendum and what's not up for a vote, 1699 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:28.600 for example, the first amendments not really up for a vote, 1700 01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:32.000 second amendments not up for a vote, every society's going 1701 01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:34.760 to draw that line a little differently. And another thing, 1702 01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:39.920 dictatorships they aren't really that unaccountable to the people. Would 1703 01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:43.159 if they spend a lot on propaganda. They care a 1704 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:45.479 lot about what the people think if they didn't sure 1705 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:47.279 what the people think if they didn't have to act 1706 01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:49.399 on what the people think at all. They wouldn't spend 1707 01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:53.920 any money on propaganda, but they do because their population 1708 01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:58.000 opinion does matter and everything. You know, the power structure 1709 01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:00.680 is a pyramid. You may have one at the top, 1710 01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:03.199 but he depends on the people right beneath him, and 1711 01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:06.840 they depend on the people right beneath them, and keeping 1712 01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:11.279 everybody happy is part of the game. And even even 1713 01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:14.680 North Korea they stayed democratic, and we we know that. 1714 01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:18.039 Yeah it's not perfect, far for perfect. It's maybe one 1715 01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:20.000 of the most autocratic places in the world, but it 1716 01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:24.760 still has some democracy, and you know, everyone's somewhere in 1717 01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:25.960 the middle of that spectrum. 1718 01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:28.680 I'll give you. For most of what you just said, 1719 01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:31.439 I agree with you. There are a few examples historically 1720 01:43:31.479 --> 01:43:35.000 speaking of, but most of these would be like within 1721 01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:39.199 the realm of monarchy, where the countries that were doing 1722 01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:45.359 the best had a benevolent despot in charge, and yeah, 1723 01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:47.640 he had he had his network of people under him 1724 01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:49.640 that actually did things. It wasn't like he was the 1725 01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:51.760 guy who was out there making all of the changes. 1726 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:54.960 But the problem with that is it only lasts for 1727 01:43:55.279 --> 01:43:58.520 that generation or until that guy dies, and typically the 1728 01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:00.920 person that takes over under him was the spoiled, rotten 1729 01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:04.399 son who undoes everything that his dad did, or something 1730 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:07.520 along these lines. So, yeah, dictators, and ye know, we 1731 01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:10.680 hear the Duram dictator. And because we living in the 1732 01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:14.199 year twenty twenty five in America, we think instant evil. 1733 01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:17.119 That's got to happen because and I'm not disagreeing with 1734 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:20.760 the fact that absolute power corrupts absolutely, I'm with that 1735 01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:24.399 one hundred percent. But there are examples of a benevolent 1736 01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:27.560 dictator who truly was a man of his people and 1737 01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:30.439 did what he needed to do for the betterment of 1738 01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.840 his country and had nobody standing in his way because 1739 01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:37.119 that's what their government basically said was the way. Whatever 1740 01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:39.640 he says is the word, and we go with that. 1741 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:42.520 And he happened to be a guy who truly gave 1742 01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:46.640 a shit about his country. But again, it's usually only 1743 01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:50.439 one maybe two generations deep if you're lucky, you know. 1744 01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:52.800 So I'm with you on that most people. And like 1745 01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:56.359 you said, with the whole voting thing, I wish we 1746 01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.640 had more barriers to entry to vote. I know it's 1747 01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:02.640 a very unpopular opinion on this, but like, for instance, 1748 01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:05.720 I used to be an electrician, albeit not a very 1749 01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:07.760 good one. I electrocue to myself a lot, but neither 1750 01:45:07.800 --> 01:45:12.000 here nor there. Okay, if I wanted to pick up 1751 01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:15.680 some side work and wire up somebody's house, I am 1752 01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:19.840 not a licensed and bonded electrician. Now I could go 1753 01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:23.159 and get those those credentials done and pay the extortion 1754 01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:25.079 fee and take a test and all this stuff. I 1755 01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:27.359 think I'm more than capable of doing so. But my 1756 01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:30.560 point is I believe that that should there's a barrier 1757 01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:34.439 to entry to do even handyman work. So why don't 1758 01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:37.399 we have a barrier to entry to vote on the 1759 01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:40.560 future of the direction our country, or our state, or 1760 01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:43.800 even your local community will be going in When you're 1761 01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:47.039 voting for a judge, perfect example, do you know where 1762 01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:50.680 that judge studied law, how long they were a lawyer, 1763 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:53.640 what's some of the bigger cases they worked, what's their 1764 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:56.520 leanings in certain cases? Are they somebody who goes off 1765 01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:59.520 of jurisprudence or is there somebody who makes it up 1766 01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:01.319 as they go and they're more of a loose cannon. 1767 01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:04.520 We have no clue when we actually vote on one 1768 01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:07.000 of these judges. So I'm with you one hundred percent 1769 01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:09.439 and it's yeah, that's a microcuism, but look at it 1770 01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:13.239 on the big picture political scale. The only reason we 1771 01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:16.479 know anything about the president elect of our next election 1772 01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:18.920 is because all of the news anchors have told us 1773 01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:23.239 their entire life story. But it's a complete farce, right 1774 01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:26.399 The governor who will be in charge of Louisiana in 1775 01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:28.880 twenty thirty is probably a person that I couldn't tell 1776 01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:32.000 you their name right now, and all of a sudden, 1777 01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:36.039 all of the Louisiana population is going to become quote 1778 01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:39.840 unquote experts on this person's life in a matter of 1779 01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:42.199 six months because it's going to be the story that 1780 01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:44.920 gets perpetuated. So I'm with you one hundred percent on that. 1781 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.439 I wish people would do more research before they go vote, 1782 01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:50.119 But I also believe that the right to vote is 1783 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:53.239 something that we really should put more restrictions on in 1784 01:46:53.239 --> 01:46:58.560 this country. Like even baseline, like just answer five questions. 1785 01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:00.880 It didn't even have to be political. I'll even take 1786 01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:06.760 this very bare minimum of baseline restrictions. Answer five random questions. 1787 01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:11.439 It could be very simple second grade math questions before 1788 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:14.159 you go vote. And if you can't do this, you 1789 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:18.000 obviously do not have the cognizant brain power to make 1790 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:20.760 an informed decision on anything else from this point forward, 1791 01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:22.239 and you would have watched. 1792 01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:28.399 The drop because the voting ballot is basically a scantron anyway, 1793 01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:32.119 just put those on there. But that reminds me. We 1794 01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:34.960 all are pretty aware that the voting franchise used to 1795 01:47:35.039 --> 01:47:38.560 be a lot more restricted to male property owners in 1796 01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:42.159 the United States, for example, but that was already extremely 1797 01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:46.600 broad compared to what it was in England. So in 1798 01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:50.199 England they've been voting on stuff, not exactly since the 1799 01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:53.000 Magna Carta, but there was there were a couple of revolutions. 1800 01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:55.680 There was an English Civil War in that sixteen hundreds, 1801 01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:58.399 and some people did get the right to vote. But 1802 01:47:58.399 --> 01:48:02.000 you know, I think population was something like fifty forty 1803 01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:06.399 million at the end of the Napoleonic Wars. But you 1804 01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:09.119 know how many people had the franchise to vote at 1805 01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:12.039 that time in eighteen fifteen. I just learned this recently. 1806 01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:16.920 It was about five hundred thousand, So you know, we're 1807 01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:19.840 talking maybe three, four or five percent of the British 1808 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.279 population had the right to vote. And then they extended 1809 01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:25.159 it to about four million people in about eighteen sixty 1810 01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:28.079 or eighteen seventy. Yeah, so still it was only like 1811 01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:30.159 ten percent of the population. If you were a land 1812 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:32.319 owning mail, there was still no guarantee you had a 1813 01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:33.079 right to vote. 1814 01:48:33.199 --> 01:48:34.960 Yeah, I was gonna say it was more towards like 1815 01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:38.199 the lower levels of nobility, Like I could see them 1816 01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:40.479 having the right to vote, and maybe a few people 1817 01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:45.840 who are of a certain socioeconomic status that could vote. 1818 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:48.000 But like you, just because you owned a parcel of 1819 01:48:48.039 --> 01:48:50.560 land didn't mean that your voice was going to count 1820 01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:52.000 by any means. 1821 01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:52.880 Right. 1822 01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:56.079 But then in late eighteenth hundreds and early twentieth century, 1823 01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:59.680 there came this idea that you may need to democratize everything. 1824 01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.039 That's why we got the seventeenth Amendment nineteenth Amendment. Of course, 1825 01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:06.279 the seventeenth was about direct election of senators for anyone 1826 01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:10.199 who doesn't know, and especially with World War One, there 1827 01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:12.399 was this widespread idea that if we just have more 1828 01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:14.720 democracy in Europe, there won't be another war, and if 1829 01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:16.720 only we give the women the right to vote, there 1830 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:18.800 won't be any more war. Because there were these women's 1831 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.439 committees all over the world in World War One who 1832 01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:25.039 were opposing the war, and for some reason that just 1833 01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:27.840 didn't happen in World War Two. So even though women 1834 01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:29.760 did have the right to vote, we still had a 1835 01:49:29.800 --> 01:49:32.520 World War two. Anyway, you would think, you know, it 1836 01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:35.079 would be nice to go back and repeat the experiment. Yeah, 1837 01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:36.840 we didn't give women the right to vote. What would 1838 01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:38.640 have happened. We just don't know. Maybe it would have 1839 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:41.079 still happened anyway, But given women the right to vote 1840 01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:43.119 didn't seem to actually prevent it. 1841 01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:48.920 Yeah, So the concept of well, what mother would vote 1842 01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:51.720 to send the sons to war and all that, I 1843 01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:56.359 understand where that's coming from. Cut to we have Nancy 1844 01:49:56.399 --> 01:50:00.039 Pelosi ranting and raving that we need to invade I 1845 01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:05.479 Ran or a chillery in the whole Benghazi situations. It's 1846 01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:09.119 laughable that they think that a woman would be so 1847 01:50:09.399 --> 01:50:13.039 opposed to war more so than a man. You know, 1848 01:50:13.119 --> 01:50:17.119 that kind of goes against the entire conversation of equality. 1849 01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:20.560 To say that a woman couldn't see the benefit of 1850 01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:25.880 armed conflict or the inherent doom of armed conflict and 1851 01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:28.640 make a logical, rational decision just as much as a 1852 01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:31.880 man can. That flies in the face of traditional feminism. 1853 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:34.960 But sure that was a thought that was proposed at 1854 01:50:34.960 --> 01:50:39.439 one point. Meanwhile, of the people right now on this podcast. 1855 01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:42.560 One of them is a female veteran. I know it's 1856 01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:46.560 mind blowing here, but yeah, I agree. I don't know. 1857 01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:49.680 I feel like most people have said this before, and 1858 01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:52.199 I am comfortable dying on the hill. Most people in 1859 01:50:52.239 --> 01:50:56.640 America they think they want freedom. In reality, they just 1860 01:50:56.720 --> 01:50:59.119 want the freedom to be comfortable. You know, I don't 1861 01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:01.880 think they necessarily like being told what to do. But 1862 01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:04.600 then you also look at the statistics that eighty percent 1863 01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:07.960 of Americans got vaccinated when there was no evidence that 1864 01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:10.880 that was a good idea. So it kind of as 1865 01:51:10.960 --> 01:51:13.600 much as I think it's just me being a hopeful 1866 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:17.319 person being a bit of an optimist, that no American 1867 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:19.239 people they if you gave them the chance, they would 1868 01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:24.000 exceed or succeed. And it's like, but then all evidence 1869 01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:27.479 to the contrary, because we're no longer in the Greatest 1870 01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:31.159 Generation time frame. They were hungry for it. They wanted 1871 01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:35.079 better for themselves and for their children. The Boomer generation 1872 01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:38.239 screwed us, and now we're to such a point to 1873 01:51:38.239 --> 01:51:41.319 where most Americans, I honestly don't believe even know which 1874 01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:44.039 direction is up anymore. And that's not just to say 1875 01:51:44.319 --> 01:51:47.600 Republican versus democrat. I'm putting both of them equally on 1876 01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:52.600 the platform of being ranting retards. But you know, it 1877 01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:54.239 is what it is for them. I'm talking about for 1878 01:51:54.279 --> 01:51:56.239 the extremes, not the just left of center or just 1879 01:51:56.319 --> 01:51:58.720 right of center. At least more often than not, you 1880 01:51:58.760 --> 01:52:01.279 can have a decent conversation these people, and they are 1881 01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:06.359 typically a little more informed than the extremists. But anyway, 1882 01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:09.880 all right, so we shall see what happens with the 1883 01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:14.640 whole possible collapse of the Ayahtola. I don't know if 1884 01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:17.479 that's actually gonna happen as of this moment. I am 1885 01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:20.960 not keen on believing that that's really within the cards, 1886 01:52:21.439 --> 01:52:24.319 but one can only hope, one can only be optimistic. 1887 01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:27.119 But as we're doing this, and as we're having this conversation, 1888 01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:30.119 I did want to bring this video up for anybody 1889 01:52:30.119 --> 01:52:34.039 who doesn't know. This is Colonel Richard Kemp. Okay, now 1890 01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:38.479 he was giving if anybody doesn't know, Oxford University does 1891 01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:44.239 this debate on name the topic. I absolutely love tuning 1892 01:52:44.279 --> 01:52:47.000 in and watching these debates happen. They're always very respectful. 1893 01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:50.159 It is a black tie affair, and this is true debate. 1894 01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:54.439 There was an Islamic side of the conversation that are 1895 01:52:54.479 --> 01:53:00.520 saying that Palestine is being you know, they need, they need, 1896 01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:03.000 why they need z Israel is so evil and all 1897 01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:07.439 these things. Colonel Richard Kemp steps up and essentially shows 1898 01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:13.039 how the whole Arabian world doesn't actually care about Palestine. 1899 01:53:13.720 --> 01:53:16.119 It has nothing to do with that. As a matter 1900 01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:19.199 of fact, they're using Palestine as cannon fodder and have 1901 01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:24.039 for decades to further the Islamic overall goals. He name 1902 01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:26.800 drops a couple of examples, he cites his sources, and 1903 01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:31.279 I think it is an excellent standpoint. So y'all listening, 1904 01:53:31.399 --> 01:53:32.880 y'all tell me what y'all think about. 1905 01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:43.279 It, Ladies and gentlemen. The motion. 1906 01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:52.560 That the Arab world has betrayed has failed the Palestinian people, 1907 01:53:53.479 --> 01:53:58.119 I fundamentally disagree with. I'm not sure if it's usual 1908 01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:02.039 for a speaker for all the motion to disagree with 1909 01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:05.560 it in this house, but I do. 1910 01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:07.800 And the reason I disagree with. 1911 01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:11.039 It is because it's just to say that the Arab 1912 01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:15.600 world has failed the Palestinian people is like saying the 1913 01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:22.399 Nazis failed the Jews in the Second World War, thank you. 1914 01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:27.159 It's not it's not. It's not a matter of failure. 1915 01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:29.840 What subject do you study law? 1916 01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:30.479 Law? 1917 01:54:31.399 --> 01:54:34.000 To say that the law professor, a law professor at 1918 01:54:34.079 --> 01:54:40.920 Oxford failed KD because maybe he neglected to look after 1919 01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:44.359 his studies, he neglected to identify what kind of topics 1920 01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.359 should be studied and so on to get to get 1921 01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:51.640 his degree, that that's failing somebody. 1922 01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:52.960 But what the Arabs have. 1923 01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:58.640 Done, what at the Arab countries collectively have done, and 1924 01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:03.720 what the Palestinian leadership have done, is far worse than failure. 1925 01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:10.000 It is betrayal. It's betrayal, its abuse. It's using them 1926 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:14.640 as cannon fodder. It's turning them from being decent, ordinary 1927 01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:18.800 human beings, wanting to prosper, wanting to have freedom, wanting 1928 01:55:18.840 --> 01:55:23.319 to live in peace in their territory, into being simply 1929 01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:27.439 weapons of war in a century long a century long 1930 01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:32.439 war between the Arab world and the Jewish national homeland. 1931 01:55:33.199 --> 01:55:37.399 And they have been, these benighted Palestinian people. 1932 01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:38.520 And I know many of them. 1933 01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:40.800 I've seen their suffering, I've spoken to them, I have 1934 01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:45.760 witnessed their suffering firsthand. They have been cast off and abused. 1935 01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:49.439 They are simply bullets to be fired from an Arab gun. 1936 01:55:53.000 --> 01:56:00.319 How have the Arabs abused the Palestinians well since the 1937 01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:03.359 the creation of the State of Israel, and before going 1938 01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:06.680 right the way back to really to the Balfour Declaration, 1939 01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:12.600 the Arabs and then subsequently the Palestinian leadership when Palestine 1940 01:56:12.680 --> 01:56:17.960 was invented as a people, as a potential country, the 1941 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:26.039 Palestinian leaders have rejected every single opportunity to create a 1942 01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:31.159 self governing homeland for the Palestinian people within the former 1943 01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:33.800 Mandate of Palestine. And that goes right back to their 1944 01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:38.119 rejection in nineteen seventeen of the Balfour Declaration, and it 1945 01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:45.159 includes coming right up to date. It includes the not 1946 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:50.119 they didn't even reject President Obama's initiative, they simply walked 1947 01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:52.800 away from it before it got anywhere. And they haven't 1948 01:56:52.840 --> 01:57:00.479 only rejected the current US administration's initiative, they've rejected it 1949 01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:03.520 without even hearing what it is. And this has been 1950 01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:06.359 the pattern all the way through, a pattern of rejection 1951 01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:13.199 and denial of any possibility of rights for the Palestinian 1952 01:57:13.239 --> 01:57:17.239 people beyond what they have now. I want to to 1953 01:57:17.600 --> 01:57:19.920 illustrate that. I want to just make a read from 1954 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:25.840 a couple of quotes really from the Horse's mouth and 1955 01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:30.600 the first one. This is from Emil Gouri, the secretary 1956 01:57:30.640 --> 01:57:34.159 of the Arab Higher Committee, who said, I do not 1957 01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:37.760 want to impugne anyone, but only to help the refugees. 1958 01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:41.880 The fact that there are these refugees is the direct 1959 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:45.479 consequences of the action of the Arab states in opposing 1960 01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:47.600 partition and the Jewish state. 1961 01:57:47.960 --> 01:57:49.800 The Arab states agreed. 1962 01:57:49.840 --> 01:57:53.800 Upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the 1963 01:57:53.800 --> 01:57:58.920 solution of the problem. Ralph Galloway, the former director of ANDRA, said, 1964 01:57:58.960 --> 01:58:02.239 the Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. 1965 01:58:02.640 --> 01:58:05.760 They want to keep it as an open sore, as 1966 01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:08.399 an affront to the United Nations, and as a weapon 1967 01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.039 against Israel. Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the 1968 01:58:12.039 --> 01:58:18.479 refugees live or die. This has been the pattern of rejection, 1969 01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:24.720 and the Arab countries are now The Palestinian authority and 1970 01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:28.560 Hamas do not want a two state solution. They're not 1971 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:31.680 interested in the two state solution. They're interested in one 1972 01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:35.479 thing only, and that is the destruction of the Jewish state, 1973 01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:37.640 the dismantling and the destruction of the Jewish state. 1974 01:58:37.960 --> 01:58:39.119 And again, the. 1975 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:44.520 Lack of support for a Palestinian state well back in 1976 01:58:44.960 --> 01:58:48.880 history and today can be seen from these two quote. 1977 01:58:48.920 --> 01:58:49.560 First of all, the. 1978 01:58:49.520 --> 01:58:53.199 Secretary General of the Arab League, Abdul Rachman Asam said 1979 01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:57.119 Transjordan was to swallow up the central hill regions of 1980 01:58:57.159 --> 01:59:01.439 Palestine with access to the Mediterranean. At going the Egyptians 1981 01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:04.800 would get the Negev, the Galilee would go to Syria, 1982 01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:08.960 except that the coastal part as far as Akka would 1983 01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:11.800 be added to Lebanon. So they were talking about carving 1984 01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:15.479 this precious Palestinian national homeland up. It was never a 1985 01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:21.039 consideration that they would actually establish a Palestinian national homeland. 1986 01:59:21.439 --> 01:59:25.720 And President Nasa of Egypt said, the Palestinians are useful 1987 01:59:25.960 --> 01:59:29.279 to the Arab states as they are, we will always 1988 01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:32.840 see that they do not become too powerful. Can you 1989 01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:37.319 imagine yet another nation on the shores of the eastern Mediterranean. 1990 01:59:37.560 --> 01:59:43.960 It has been the pattern, no two states, no liberational freedom. 1991 01:59:42.479 --> 01:59:47.479 From the current situation that the Palestinians face at any stage, 1992 01:59:49.319 --> 01:59:53.880 they have forced conflicts upon the Palestinians. The Arab nations 1993 01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:58.279 since nineteen forty eight have sent armies into the land 1994 01:59:58.720 --> 02:00:02.840 to attempt to annihilate the Jewish state, and that of 1995 02:00:02.880 --> 02:00:05.840 course has brought death and destruction and suffering upon the 1996 02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:08.720 Palestinians as well. And since then they have imposed and 1997 02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:16.560 inflicted and supported and funded and directed terrorism against the Jews. 1998 02:00:16.439 --> 02:00:17.640 By the Palestinians. 1999 02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:20.800 And that has been going on for a long time 2000 02:00:20.880 --> 02:00:25.520 and continues today. It continues today in Gaza, from the 2001 02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:28.439 Gaza border, and in the West Bank and in other 2002 02:00:28.479 --> 02:00:34.199 parts of Israel. And where is this funded from? From 2003 02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:38.479 the greatest state supporter of terrorism in the world, Iran, 2004 02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:43.720 and from Qatar of course, the Arab country. So this 2005 02:00:43.800 --> 02:00:46.479 has been this is a continuing problem. I have been 2006 02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:51.039 there on the Gaza border. I've watched the suffering and 2007 02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:55.239 the violence which has been attracted to the area by 2008 02:00:55.840 --> 02:01:00.520 the Palestinian people by Hamas. In effect, guest has a 2009 02:01:00.600 --> 02:01:04.000 role in this. The West, with its greed and its 2010 02:01:04.079 --> 02:01:07.840 lust for oil, has appeased the Arab countries and encouraged them. 2011 02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:12.520 And by supporting this motion today, even though I don't 2012 02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:15.399 agree with it, I think we are making a statement, 2013 02:01:15.960 --> 02:01:19.279 and that statement is we will no longer appease and 2014 02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:25.159 support your retribution against the Palestinians. If this situation continues 2015 02:01:25.199 --> 02:01:28.399 any further, then as has happened in the past. The 2016 02:01:28.479 --> 02:01:31.399 only people to suffer Israel is not going to suffer 2017 02:01:31.399 --> 02:01:33.880 as well as this. The only people that will suffer 2018 02:01:34.119 --> 02:01:36.720 are the Palestinians. They will continue to suffer. And I 2019 02:01:36.840 --> 02:01:39.520 urge you, ladies and gentlemen to get behind this motion 2020 02:01:39.920 --> 02:01:43.640 and make your voice heard against the continued suffering of 2021 02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:44.720 the Palestinian people. 2022 02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:45.880 Thank you very much. Indeed. 2023 02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:51.000 Okay, So that was six years ago, for the record, 2024 02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:54.119 That was not in light of the current situation with 2025 02:01:54.239 --> 02:01:59.640 the Palestine and Israel conversation. That was not within the 2026 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:02.560 wing of the attacks that are happening with Iran right now. 2027 02:02:03.079 --> 02:02:05.319 That was six years ago, and he was quoting things 2028 02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:08.439 from nineteen forty eight with other Arab leaders saying that 2029 02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:11.039 if and when the time ever came, they were just 2030 02:02:11.079 --> 02:02:14.880 gonna section off this area and envelop it into their 2031 02:02:14.920 --> 02:02:18.159 own countries. There was never a conversation with any other 2032 02:02:18.199 --> 02:02:22.399 Arab nations of having a free Palestine. Ever, they have 2033 02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:24.760 used these people, like he said, as an open sore 2034 02:02:24.880 --> 02:02:27.960 to continue the conflict. And I also agree with what 2035 02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:31.800 he said about the West perpetuating the cycle and propagating 2036 02:02:31.800 --> 02:02:36.000 it even further through greed and oil and all these things. 2037 02:02:35.760 --> 02:02:38.840 It's a continuous problem. There's a reason why the Middle 2038 02:02:38.880 --> 02:02:41.760 East will never have peace. They haven't had peace since 2039 02:02:41.880 --> 02:02:44.800 long before Israel became a nation, and they're not going 2040 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:47.760 to have peace anytime soon. So as we were talking 2041 02:02:47.800 --> 02:02:51.399 about everything that's going on with the bricks, with the 2042 02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:56.520 Ai conversation, with Iran, with everything, I felt like it 2043 02:02:56.560 --> 02:02:58.079 was kind of cool to have that one brought up. 2044 02:02:58.079 --> 02:03:00.520 I just found that one this afternoon. I was like, ooh, yeah, 2045 02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:02.039 we're gonna have to play that one on here. But 2046 02:03:02.279 --> 02:03:04.119 if anybody has anything to add in, please do. 2047 02:03:05.800 --> 02:03:08.239 Well. I guess the thing I would add is the 2048 02:03:08.279 --> 02:03:12.039 reason a lot of Arabs pro Palestinian Arabs will also 2049 02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:15.840 say that Arabs have failed the Palestinians is from the 2050 02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:18.199 other end of the spectrum. They would say that Arab 2051 02:03:18.239 --> 02:03:22.399 states haven't fought hard enough for Palestine, for example, Egypt 2052 02:03:22.520 --> 02:03:26.279 and Syria and everyone else. I was wondering if that 2053 02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:28.359 was where he was going. I was pretty sure it wasn't, 2054 02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:30.439 But that is true. That was the other way to 2055 02:03:30.520 --> 02:03:30.840 view it. 2056 02:03:31.079 --> 02:03:33.520 That's a very good point. Egypt has not stepped in 2057 02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:37.000 to help their Gossen brothers. Lebanon has not stepped in 2058 02:03:37.039 --> 02:03:39.319 to help their West Bank brothers, like, not even a 2059 02:03:39.359 --> 02:03:42.039 little bit Jordan they have, none of them do because 2060 02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:43.640 none of them care about Palestine. 2061 02:03:44.359 --> 02:03:47.640 Well, I think the argument Israel always makes is that 2062 02:03:47.680 --> 02:03:51.840 one of these Arab countries just absorb the Palestinian populations 2063 02:03:51.840 --> 02:03:59.760 by letting them immigrate, and they don't because they I 2064 02:03:59.800 --> 02:04:01.439 think the guy has a point. They want to keep 2065 02:04:01.479 --> 02:04:07.159 the Palestinians there as the front line against the Jewish state. 2066 02:04:07.720 --> 02:04:10.399 But by the way, Jewish state, you know, what does 2067 02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:14.359 that even refer to the adjective Jewish? Is that religion 2068 02:04:14.439 --> 02:04:17.000 or ethnicity. It's a little bit of both, but either 2069 02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.800 one is problematic because if you're saying it's a Jewish state, 2070 02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:22.680 you're either saying it's an ethno state or a theocracy 2071 02:04:22.840 --> 02:04:23.800 or a little bit of both. 2072 02:04:24.920 --> 02:04:26.840 I see that. But at the same time, nobody else 2073 02:04:26.880 --> 02:04:30.359 could have that. I mean, not necessarily. There are Muslim 2074 02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:32.119 states and that's. 2075 02:04:31.960 --> 02:04:34.640 A really Islamic republic, but I mean I. 2076 02:04:34.600 --> 02:04:37.720 Would say Afghanistan is a Islamic state. I would say 2077 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:41.680 Egypt is an Islamic state, right and Morocco there's tons 2078 02:04:41.680 --> 02:04:45.239 of them. But we only have one Jewish state on Earth. 2079 02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:49.760 I don't think we have any Christian ones. Anymore. And 2080 02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:53.640 in the Democratic West, it would be considered wrong to 2081 02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:56.760 have a white state or a Christian state. And I'm 2082 02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:59.960 not advocating for that anyway, but for some reason, Jewish 2083 02:05:00.039 --> 02:05:04.640 state is. It's not only acceptable, but people get asked 2084 02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:08.000 the questions like the New York mayor's race a couple 2085 02:05:08.039 --> 02:05:10.520 of weeks ago, do you support the the do you 2086 02:05:10.560 --> 02:05:13.359 support Israel and its right to exist? And he said, 2087 02:05:13.359 --> 02:05:15.800 I support its right to exist with equal rights for 2088 02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:19.000 all its citizens, and he got jumped on for not 2089 02:05:19.279 --> 02:05:23.039 specifying it has a right to exist as a Jewish state, 2090 02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:27.199 and RFK Junior has made similar statements. He says, you 2091 02:05:27.279 --> 02:05:28.800 need to just say that it has a right to 2092 02:05:28.880 --> 02:05:32.680 exist as a Jewish state. And what do you mean 2093 02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:35.159 by that, ethno state, theocracy, or a little bit of 2094 02:05:35.199 --> 02:05:39.439 both both. The US doesn't have the right to exist 2095 02:05:39.439 --> 02:05:41.760 that way. Western Europe doesn't apparently. 2096 02:05:41.920 --> 02:05:47.199 But America used to be classified as a Christian nation 2097 02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:50.359 until Obama said that we are not a Christian nation. 2098 02:05:50.760 --> 02:05:53.680 Everybody changed the narrative at that point. We I mean, 2099 02:05:53.680 --> 02:05:56.439 it wasn't even like whether it was on paper or 2100 02:05:56.439 --> 02:05:59.760 whether it was just by population density. No one questioned 2101 02:06:00.119 --> 02:06:04.199 Erica being a Christian nation until they said it wasn't. 2102 02:06:05.760 --> 02:06:09.640 Yeah, that's been a little controversial because well, in eighteen 2103 02:06:09.720 --> 02:06:12.399 ninety two, I think there was a Supreme Court decision 2104 02:06:12.399 --> 02:06:16.600 that said it was a Christian our institutions are emphatically Christian. 2105 02:06:16.640 --> 02:06:19.159 I think that was the exact words. But from the 2106 02:06:19.279 --> 02:06:21.760 very beginning there were a lot of dists and people 2107 02:06:21.800 --> 02:06:24.600 like Thomas Paine who said he didn't believe in the 2108 02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:27.079 Bible at all, and he was very unpopular for that 2109 02:06:27.159 --> 02:06:27.600 at the time. 2110 02:06:27.880 --> 02:06:28.640 Actually, and the. 2111 02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:32.159 US has always North America, British North America was full 2112 02:06:32.199 --> 02:06:36.239 of all the religious misfits who were not welcome in 2113 02:06:36.520 --> 02:06:39.560 England or Europe, and that included people like Thomas Paine, 2114 02:06:41.119 --> 02:06:45.479 you know, dists and people who didn't like didn't like 2115 02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:48.359 the Bible. Jefferson tried to write a Bible that took 2116 02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:50.960 out all the miracles, for example. So there was weird 2117 02:06:51.039 --> 02:06:53.279 religious crap going on back then that we would not 2118 02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:56.720 recognize as Christian. And I know I'm gonna derailing this 2119 02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:57.640 a whole bunch. 2120 02:06:57.439 --> 02:07:00.520 Here, not really, I agree with you, Thomas Jefferson Bible, 2121 02:07:00.680 --> 02:07:03.399 which if anybody is curious, if you've ever heard of 2122 02:07:03.439 --> 02:07:06.680 the Lost Gospel of Q. It's the exact same thing 2123 02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:09.520 as the Thomas Jefferson Bible. It's just direct quotes from Jesus. 2124 02:07:09.840 --> 02:07:12.800 There's it took out the miracles, it took out the context, 2125 02:07:12.840 --> 02:07:15.279 it took out every It's just a entire book of 2126 02:07:15.319 --> 02:07:19.560 only read writing, which is cool. It's cool, but at 2127 02:07:19.560 --> 02:07:22.960 that point it's more like a Confucian say dot dot 2128 02:07:23.000 --> 02:07:24.720 dot kind of thing. It kind of takes away the 2129 02:07:25.239 --> 02:07:27.840 importance of it all. But it's, you know, in its 2130 02:07:27.880 --> 02:07:31.199 own regarded. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Uh huh. 2131 02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:35.600 So with regard to Palestine, he didn't go so far 2132 02:07:35.640 --> 02:07:37.760 as I've seen some people go to say that, oh, 2133 02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:41.560 it never existed or Palestine didn't mean anything. Palestine is 2134 02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:43.560 actually a really old word. It goes back at least 2135 02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:46.680 as far as Herodotus in about four to sixty BC. 2136 02:07:47.399 --> 02:07:49.560 It was also called the land of Canaan. It's had 2137 02:07:49.600 --> 02:07:52.560 a lot of different names in fact, in the Bible. 2138 02:07:52.600 --> 02:07:54.960 I'm pretty sure that if somebody correct me on this, 2139 02:07:55.000 --> 02:07:57.600 I'd love to be corrected. Israel only refers to the people, 2140 02:07:57.720 --> 02:08:01.159 it doesn't refer to the land. And now you know, 2141 02:08:01.199 --> 02:08:03.039 it kind of does refer to the land. What do 2142 02:08:03.079 --> 02:08:03.760 you think Jacob. 2143 02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:08.520 I mean, I yes, so the israel Lights were landing 2144 02:08:08.640 --> 02:08:12.039 in the Land of Judah, which was taken from the Canaanites. 2145 02:08:12.079 --> 02:08:14.520 But it depends on which section of the Bible you're 2146 02:08:14.520 --> 02:08:17.159 talking about, depending on Old Testament for all of our 2147 02:08:17.319 --> 02:08:20.920 Jewish listeners in here as well, because it depends on 2148 02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:24.520 which section they At one point the Jewish kingdom was 2149 02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:28.039 massive and then it got whittled down to what it was. 2150 02:08:28.079 --> 02:08:31.159 But when it got they listed as Palestine from Herodotus, 2151 02:08:31.439 --> 02:08:34.279 correct me if from Rolling Royce. That was whenever the 2152 02:08:34.399 --> 02:08:39.119 Jews got put into slavery in Babylon and they relisted 2153 02:08:39.119 --> 02:08:41.239 the land and said they never wanted to hear the 2154 02:08:41.359 --> 02:08:44.319 term Israel again, and they made it Palestine. That was 2155 02:08:44.319 --> 02:08:45.960 like a word that he made up on the spot 2156 02:08:46.039 --> 02:08:50.760 for that purpose. But yeah, I mean, we're talking about 2157 02:08:50.800 --> 02:08:54.399 one of the most ancient areas on the map. And 2158 02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:56.800 I don't mean just Israel. I mean the entirety of 2159 02:08:57.039 --> 02:09:00.720 the Middle East, very ancient land. So to say that 2160 02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:03.439 this land was one time called this and then it 2161 02:09:03.560 --> 02:09:06.399 was this. Let's not forget that Iran was at one 2162 02:09:06.439 --> 02:09:09.960 time Persia, and everybody there was Zoroastrian. If we're gonna 2163 02:09:09.960 --> 02:09:13.479 get real, real technical. The true religion of the dirt 2164 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:18.840 of Iran is to be following Zoraaster, not the Ayatolahs. 2165 02:09:18.880 --> 02:09:21.319 So like, where are we really drawing that line from 2166 02:09:21.760 --> 02:09:24.159 the land in question is considered the land of milk 2167 02:09:24.159 --> 02:09:26.479 and honey. Right, you'll hear that term get thrown out 2168 02:09:26.479 --> 02:09:29.880 about a bunch. And they do give very clear distinct 2169 02:09:30.119 --> 02:09:33.520 places of where it is supposed to be, even in 2170 02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:36.479 the Quran. And I know this is gonna be unpopular, 2171 02:09:36.560 --> 02:09:41.359 but Muslims listening, you tell me, you explain this to me. 2172 02:09:42.199 --> 02:09:46.359 They literally list by, like from here to here, and 2173 02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:50.479 from here to here is the area reserved for the Israelites, 2174 02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:53.800 for the Jews. Even in the Quran they say that 2175 02:09:53.800 --> 02:09:56.039 that area would be what we would now call Israel. 2176 02:09:57.560 --> 02:10:01.119 That's not Jacob's words, that's the Quran's world words. So 2177 02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:04.920 even within their own religious text, they acknowledge that that 2178 02:10:05.039 --> 02:10:10.560 land is meant for them, not Palestinians, not Arabs, not Armenians, 2179 02:10:10.600 --> 02:10:15.199 not or anything close to these conversations. So, yes, do 2180 02:10:15.279 --> 02:10:18.560 I believe Israel should exist as a state, Yes, as 2181 02:10:18.600 --> 02:10:23.960 a Jewish state, both ethno and religious. Yes, I believe 2182 02:10:23.960 --> 02:10:27.520 they should both. But keep in mind, Jewish by race 2183 02:10:27.600 --> 02:10:30.840 does not necessarily mean everybody that looks like net and Yahoo. 2184 02:10:31.199 --> 02:10:33.439 There was a tribe in Nigeria that was found that 2185 02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:37.880 half of that tribe is from direct Levi descent bloodline. 2186 02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:38.159 Shit. 2187 02:10:38.359 --> 02:10:40.439 So if they want to make their way back to 2188 02:10:40.560 --> 02:10:43.880 Israel and they are dark like sub Saharan dark, if 2189 02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:45.600 they want to make their way back to Israel, because 2190 02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:49.880 it is by birthright, their blood promised land, they should 2191 02:10:49.880 --> 02:10:51.640 be able to do so. And if you're not mistaken, 2192 02:10:51.640 --> 02:10:54.600 the Nation of Israel has extended an olive branch to them. 2193 02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:56.840 If they would like to move to Israel, they're welcomed there. 2194 02:10:57.319 --> 02:11:00.199 But so I don't see the race conversations. It's not 2195 02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:04.439 everybody looks like Ari Shafir or or the Ashkenazis or 2196 02:11:04.479 --> 02:11:07.399 the Spartas. It's the land for all of the Jews. 2197 02:11:08.000 --> 02:11:10.840 Now is it being ran that way? Do I like 2198 02:11:10.960 --> 02:11:11.800 net and Yahoo? 2199 02:11:11.960 --> 02:11:12.000 No? 2200 02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:16.039 I personally don't. I think that he's a strong leader, 2201 02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:19.720 but I think he is also extremely what's the word 2202 02:11:19.720 --> 02:11:24.600 I'm looking for. I don't want to say biased. I'm 2203 02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:26.680 saying he's going out of his way to kick hornets 2204 02:11:26.680 --> 02:11:32.920 nests when there was better solutions available But in that 2205 02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:35.880 same breath, I could also understand how when you get 2206 02:11:35.960 --> 02:11:38.199 backed into a corner and you give and give and give, 2207 02:11:38.359 --> 02:11:40.640 finally you have to do something to get the hornets 2208 02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:43.960 off of you. And I'm not saying that I don't 2209 02:11:43.960 --> 02:11:44.399 think they did. 2210 02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:46.680 Kicker. 2211 02:11:47.199 --> 02:11:50.359 Wasn't it just twenty twelve when they gave back a 2212 02:11:50.399 --> 02:11:52.000 bunch of land to Palestine. 2213 02:11:53.039 --> 02:11:55.840 Now you might be thinking of in two thousand and 2214 02:11:55.920 --> 02:12:00.079 five there were a few Israeli settlements in Gaza and 2215 02:12:00.239 --> 02:12:03.439 they pulled them out. So Gazi used to be under 2216 02:12:03.760 --> 02:12:07.840 a military occupation where soldiers could just go everywhere in it, 2217 02:12:08.479 --> 02:12:12.760 and they basically withdrew the soldiers to the perimeter of Goza, 2218 02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:17.880 which is not that much better. And you mentioned birthright, 2219 02:12:18.600 --> 02:12:20.760 but you know when that would apply to people who 2220 02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:23.520 are actually born in Palestine, if they're Arab, I think 2221 02:12:23.560 --> 02:12:25.800 they have more of a right to live there than 2222 02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:28.920 somebody Jewish who's born in New York City, for example. 2223 02:12:29.239 --> 02:12:31.840 And yet according to the State of Israel, the guy 2224 02:12:31.920 --> 02:12:33.960 born in New York City has more of a right 2225 02:12:34.039 --> 02:12:37.479 to move into somebody's home in Palestine than the guy 2226 02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:41.640 who's descended from you know, great grandparents who lived there. 2227 02:12:42.520 --> 02:12:45.760 Israel needs permanent borders with its neighbors, but it doesn't 2228 02:12:45.760 --> 02:12:49.600 have them, and it doesn't want them. It wants to 2229 02:12:49.680 --> 02:12:53.880 keep the situation fluid. I think it would be best 2230 02:12:53.920 --> 02:12:56.880 for both countries to establish permanent borders, and then Israel 2231 02:12:56.960 --> 02:12:59.479 will exist. It's not going to go out of existence. 2232 02:13:00.159 --> 02:13:03.079 I think something like the nineteen forty seven or sixty 2233 02:13:03.119 --> 02:13:06.319 seven borders would have been good, but the Arabs rejected 2234 02:13:06.319 --> 02:13:08.560 that at the time. In retrospect, it looks like a 2235 02:13:08.600 --> 02:13:10.520 great idea. It would have been a great idea for 2236 02:13:10.560 --> 02:13:13.560 them to accept those boundaries. But the Israel they eight 2237 02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:15.640 perceived Israel it is driving too heard of a bargain 2238 02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:18.680 at that time, and that's what Israel does on purpose 2239 02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:20.960 all the time. They drive a really hard bargain. Nettan 2240 02:13:21.000 --> 02:13:23.960 Yaho was saying in the nineties that we just want 2241 02:13:24.000 --> 02:13:29.520 area Sea of Palestine and Area C was like ninety 2242 02:13:29.560 --> 02:13:31.520 percent of what was left if you take the map 2243 02:13:31.560 --> 02:13:34.159 of Israel plus West Bank plus Gaza all put together. 2244 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:37.079 Israel already has seventy eight percent of that after nineteen 2245 02:13:37.159 --> 02:13:40.279 sixty eight, and they were going to get about ninety 2246 02:13:40.279 --> 02:13:42.920 percent of what was left of the land area after 2247 02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:46.000 that under net and Yaho's proposal, and the way natan 2248 02:13:46.039 --> 02:13:48.439 Yah who spun it was to say, well, we just 2249 02:13:48.520 --> 02:13:51.159 want area sea. It sounds small, but it was actually 2250 02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:54.560 maybe not ninety percent of what was left, but it 2251 02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:57.039 was a huge percent of what was left. So at 2252 02:13:57.079 --> 02:14:00.439 each step the Israelis drive a really hard bargain, the 2253 02:14:00.439 --> 02:14:04.920 Palestinians don't accept it, and then the conflict continues in 2254 02:14:04.960 --> 02:14:07.279 the Palestinians lose more and more and they are just 2255 02:14:07.319 --> 02:14:10.319 gonna get murdered or shoved off the land. And that's 2256 02:14:10.359 --> 02:14:12.680 how it's gonna be. I bet you know in twenty years, 2257 02:14:12.720 --> 02:14:15.840 Israel is going to own Gaza for sure, based on 2258 02:14:15.880 --> 02:14:17.600 the way things are going right now, because Gaza is 2259 02:14:17.600 --> 02:14:19.560 so small and it's the focus of so much attention 2260 02:14:19.640 --> 02:14:21.840 and there are only two million people there instead of 2261 02:14:21.880 --> 02:14:25.800 six But they are going to force those people out somehow. 2262 02:14:25.880 --> 02:14:26.359 They want it. 2263 02:14:26.359 --> 02:14:29.720 Its beachfront property. It doesn't even appear on the maps 2264 02:14:29.720 --> 02:14:32.439 in seven hundred BC if you look that up in Wikipedia, 2265 02:14:32.560 --> 02:14:35.600 Gaza anyway, west bank does. In fact, even part of 2266 02:14:35.640 --> 02:14:37.560 the east bank of the Jordan River does appear as 2267 02:14:37.640 --> 02:14:40.239 Israel or the tribe Isakar or something. I'm probably getting 2268 02:14:40.239 --> 02:14:43.920 that wrong, but Israel and they feel like they want 2269 02:14:43.960 --> 02:14:48.239 this land, they're entitled to it because they think they're great, great, great, 2270 02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:51.840 great great great great you know, grandparents two thousand years 2271 02:14:51.840 --> 02:14:54.039 ago lived there. And maybe that's true, but I don't 2272 02:14:54.039 --> 02:14:57.479 think that's a good territorial claim. They need permanent borders, 2273 02:14:57.600 --> 02:15:00.000 but they're not going to establish them. Maybe I'm top 2274 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:02.239 bucking in circles. They just want to keep this going. 2275 02:15:02.359 --> 02:15:06.199 One last thing, the Qatar supports Hamas, or they supported 2276 02:15:06.199 --> 02:15:09.439 Hamas for years and years because Israel asked them to, 2277 02:15:10.079 --> 02:15:17.119 and Israel actually helped them procure Treasury Department waivers in 2278 02:15:17.239 --> 02:15:19.520 order to give money to Hamas as much as ten 2279 02:15:19.600 --> 02:15:22.359 years ago in twenty fifteen. And the reason for that 2280 02:15:23.960 --> 02:15:27.479 is that they the Israeli government did not want a 2281 02:15:27.520 --> 02:15:33.119 partner for peace in Gaza. They wanted Hamas to have power, 2282 02:15:33.520 --> 02:15:36.279 precisely so that they would have an excuse to keep 2283 02:15:36.279 --> 02:15:38.479 blockading them. And that's what happened. 2284 02:15:39.279 --> 02:15:41.119 I thought that was because they didn't want to fork 2285 02:15:41.159 --> 02:15:43.840 over the money to help the infrastructure of Palestine, so 2286 02:15:43.840 --> 02:15:49.640 they were looking for outside financiers to actually make the 2287 02:15:49.840 --> 02:15:51.520 betterment happen for Palestine. 2288 02:15:53.199 --> 02:15:57.319 The Katari's yeah, the Qataris. They were willing to give 2289 02:15:57.520 --> 02:16:00.640 money to any other political party like Fatah. Fatah is 2290 02:16:00.720 --> 02:16:05.680 the other big Palestinian national party or nationalist party, but 2291 02:16:06.680 --> 02:16:12.199 Fatas is like, you know, yeah, as bad as a 2292 02:16:12.279 --> 02:16:14.680 mus Fata used to be the majority back when we 2293 02:16:14.680 --> 02:16:17.159 were kids in like the nineties or something. And I 2294 02:16:17.159 --> 02:16:19.880 think the alternative to Fatah at that time was the PLO, 2295 02:16:20.319 --> 02:16:23.720 which was the militia led by air Fat. 2296 02:16:24.039 --> 02:16:24.319 Yeah. 2297 02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:30.279 Yeah, the PLO I think doesn't exist anymore. And well, anyway, 2298 02:16:30.720 --> 02:16:33.360 I'm a big piece snick. I think Israel should establish 2299 02:16:33.360 --> 02:16:37.879 permanent borders, but they're not going to cause reasons, too 2300 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:41.200 many reasons, none of them good fair. That's how it is. 2301 02:16:42.040 --> 02:16:43.079 I'm going to shut up. 2302 02:16:43.440 --> 02:16:45.959 No, no, no, man. I appreciate your input. I always do. 2303 02:16:46.719 --> 02:16:49.360 So with that being said, I think we are going 2304 02:16:49.399 --> 02:16:52.360 to wrap this episode up a lot of things going 2305 02:16:52.360 --> 02:16:54.239 on around the world right now, a lot of things, 2306 02:16:54.440 --> 02:16:58.120 not just in the Middle East, not just in uh 2307 02:16:58.159 --> 02:17:01.000 this side of the globe on our hemisphere. But we're 2308 02:17:01.040 --> 02:17:03.920 talking about bricks trying to become a global superpower in 2309 02:17:03.959 --> 02:17:08.079 the AI conversation. That's an interesting thing as well. We'll 2310 02:17:08.120 --> 02:17:11.639 see if Putin actually puts real gas on that fire, 2311 02:17:11.799 --> 02:17:13.200 or if it's gonna be one of those things that 2312 02:17:13.319 --> 02:17:15.120 just kind of gets talked about a good bit and 2313 02:17:15.200 --> 02:17:19.280 echoes off into nothingness. Who knows, but uh, either way, 2314 02:17:19.920 --> 02:17:22.120 I want to thank everybody for coming out and joining 2315 02:17:22.200 --> 02:17:24.600 me on this edition of The Cajun Night Live once 2316 02:17:24.600 --> 02:17:26.639 again for anybody who would like to join in this 2317 02:17:26.680 --> 02:17:30.120 conversation next week. We do this every Wednesday night at 2318 02:17:30.200 --> 02:17:32.959 nine pm Central. Come check it out at the Cajun 2319 02:17:33.040 --> 02:17:35.879 Night on Patreon. The link is in the description below. 2320 02:17:36.360 --> 02:17:38.840 Only one tier for entry. We are just trying to 2321 02:17:38.879 --> 02:17:42.200 get this to grow into its own crazy snowball of 2322 02:17:42.799 --> 02:17:48.079 education and information and exchanging of real ideas. And uh yeah, 2323 02:17:48.159 --> 02:17:51.000 I have thoroughly enjoyed this episode as I do every 2324 02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:54.799 Wednesday Night. Once again, I am the Cajun Night Jacob 2325 02:17:54.879 --> 02:17:57.120 Mook and I thank all of you for joining me 2326 02:17:57.159 --> 02:18:00.959 on this evening To everybody listening. As always, God bless