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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm deeling busy Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, today was Memorial Day. It is a federal holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one that has been on the book since eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight, so it's been around for a while, over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred years. Over one hundred and fifty years, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess pretty close to one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's over one hundred and fifty years, and only

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<v Speaker 2>half of Americans know what Memorial Day represents. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>new research that was done by a group called Talkerresearch

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. It's brought to my attention by one of

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners, Andrea Shocking. Data revealed that in a new

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<v Speaker 2>survey of two thousand Americans, forty eight percent of respondents

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<v Speaker 2>knew that Memorial Day is a holiday honoring military personnel

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<v Speaker 2>who died in service to the country. Thirty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the people correctly thought, excuse me, incorrectly thought Memorial

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<v Speaker 2>Day was a holiday celebrating all military personnel, both living

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<v Speaker 2>and deceased. That, of course, is Veterans Day. Twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent thought it was a holiday commemorating all public servants

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<v Speaker 2>military of law or law or not, who lost their

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<v Speaker 2>lives while working. Kind of a big, big mistake on

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<v Speaker 2>that one. The divide is greater amongst young groups older generations.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to give you the headlines here.

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<v Speaker 2>Older generations by and large more likely to know the

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<v Speaker 2>exact definition.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Memorial Day when compared to younger Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Only twenty seven percent of Gen Z respondents selected the

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<v Speaker 2>correct definition, as well as just thirty eight percent of millennials.

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<v Speaker 2>So the younger you are, the less you would know.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby boomers from most. On top of it, fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>percent knew precisely why Memorial Day was observed. But just

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't know what Memorial Day is doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you have to work on the unofficial start of summer

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<v Speaker 2>of employeed survey responding sixty five percent of the day

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<v Speaker 2>are from the job, while thirty five percent will be

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<v Speaker 2>still heading into work.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing that's interesting about this is that this

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<v Speaker 3>is a this was done.

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<v Speaker 2>This survey was taken between May ninth and May fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>His three percent of the public felt Memorial Day commemorated

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<v Speaker 2>the founding Fathers in their role in American independence, two

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<v Speaker 2>percent to honor past presidents who served in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>two percent. Look, the real purpose of Memorial Day is

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<v Speaker 2>to honor military personnel who died in service to our country.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple as that, Simple as that. What this shows is

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<v Speaker 2>that the younger the group, the less they knew about

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day, which says to me, which proves to me

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<v Speaker 2>that history and the purpose of American history is not

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<v Speaker 2>being taught with the same rigor that it was taught

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<v Speaker 2>to previous generations. I think that's an inescapable conclusion. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to ask you to do is just

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<v Speaker 2>tell me your thoughts on Memorial Day. What did you

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<v Speaker 2>do today? I certainly thought about people who I knew

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<v Speaker 2>who died in service to the country, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>about people who I knew who served in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>although again that is not the specific purpose for Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 2>But on a personal level, I think I think that

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<v Speaker 2>many people might not know anyone who died in service

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<v Speaker 2>to the country. So I'm going to open up the

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<v Speaker 2>phone lines six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>and six one seven nine three one ten thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what what your thoughts are on today. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a really important holiday, I really do. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's it's right there with the fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more important than Labor Day. It's more important than

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<v Speaker 2>I think many of our holidays.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as important as the fourth of July because without

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day and the people who have served in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and died in service of the country, those

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<v Speaker 2>who gave their they're all maybe the fourth of July

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<v Speaker 2>would be a footnote in history, and there'd be some

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<v Speaker 2>other country. We would always speak in German, Japanese or

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<v Speaker 2>something some other language.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the phone. Let me go to Steve

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<v Speaker 3>and Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve, I love it when you start off a topic

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<v Speaker 2>for us because you always have an interesting perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve, go right ahead. Thanks for calling it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>I have some thoughts on Memorial Day, which I think

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<v Speaker 4>when it was first founded was decoration Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you might be right on that, yep, because

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<v Speaker 2>decoration refers to decorating gravestones with American flags and flowers.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Okay, I'm not sure. Well, okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>think one of my biggest thoughts on it, well, I

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<v Speaker 4>have several and is that correct me if I'm wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>But the holiday used to be observed on a particular date,

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<v Speaker 4>not just on a Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it used to be. I think it used

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<v Speaker 2>to be May thirtieth, but I can check that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So you have a problem there because the day

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<v Speaker 4>has become just another Monday off and people get in

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<v Speaker 4>the car and go someplace. Loses the meaning of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>At one time, like if it became in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the week, people stayed in I live in Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 4>They stayed in Cambridge. They didn't go away necessarily, and

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<v Speaker 4>so therefore they attended the parades, they attended the observances

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<v Speaker 4>of the city, and they might even get to know

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<v Speaker 4>their neighbors. But now it's just a three day holiday

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<v Speaker 4>and it begins the summer, and everyone who ken leaves

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<v Speaker 4>Cambridge and the whole I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>meaning of the day is lost.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you make a really great point, it says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just checking out here. It said that in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight Congress changed its observance. It was observed on

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<v Speaker 2>May thirtieth. The first national observice was May thirtieth in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen sixty eight, and it remained on May thirtieth until

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty eight. So it was one hundred years later

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<v Speaker 2>that Congress changed its observance to the last Monday in May,

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<v Speaker 2>and in nineteen seventy one standardized its name as Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 2>It had been called Decoration Day, which did include the

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<v Speaker 2>decoration of military grace with the American flag. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>right the holiday has been sort of watered down a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, for example, Cambridge had a ceremony. The city

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<v Speaker 4>had a ceremony in Cambridge Common for an hour and

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<v Speaker 4>a half, and I thought that the city did very

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<v Speaker 4>well by it. The councilors and the mayor restrained themselves

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<v Speaker 4>from attacking Trump. I'm sure required a certain amount of restraint,

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<v Speaker 4>and they really, you know, just talked about the sacrifice

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<v Speaker 4>of so many Americans and that was good. But the

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<v Speaker 4>problem is there. I mean, we had a reasonable crowd,

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<v Speaker 4>but the whole city was empty. You know, there was

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if there was a parade or not,

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<v Speaker 4>but in before sixty eight, if it had fallen during

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<v Speaker 4>the week, there would be so many more people attending

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<v Speaker 4>and realizing exactly what the day meant.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree with you with your point. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Day has always been a Monday. The fourth of

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<v Speaker 2>July has not been changed. Obviously, this year, the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>of July happens to be on a Friday, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>once every seven years, it's on a Monday. Once every

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<v Speaker 2>seven years on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving has always been pegged, I guess to that last

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday in November. Christmas obviously is always on the twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Martin Luther King's birthday is always a Monday holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>President's Day is a Monday holiday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure if the Fed's still well Columbus Day, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>that's also now been turned into a Monday holiday. It

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<v Speaker 2>used to be, you know, well President's Day used to

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<v Speaker 2>be you had George Washington's birthday on the twenty second

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<v Speaker 2>and Abe Lincoln's on the twelfth, so you learned a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of history. I wonder if they did a

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<v Speaker 2>if they did some sort of a survey now, if

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<v Speaker 2>people could tell you, particularly younger people, Lincoln's birthday and

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<v Speaker 2>Washington's birthday they're not the same day.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, as I say, Cambridge who was dead today,

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<v Speaker 4>So there was I mean, we had a good ceremony

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<v Speaker 4>and I was very happy that I went and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna you know, this is something I should do every year,

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<v Speaker 4>and I admit that I haven't, but that is something

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<v Speaker 4>we've lost by that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great observation, Steve. You always a

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<v Speaker 2>very perceptive but you always bring an a game and

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<v Speaker 2>you bring an obvious point. I think again, what has

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<v Speaker 2>happened is that a lot of you know, commercial interests

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<v Speaker 2>like to see the long three day weekend, and whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not it's the start of summer as it is,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are a lot of people who today

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<v Speaker 2>are coming back from wherever and probably stayed over Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>and Sunday night somewhere. If Memorial Day this week or

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<v Speaker 2>this month, let's see the thirtieth, it would have turned

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<v Speaker 2>out it would have been Friday, so there would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a long holiday weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been next weekend. But you're right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean it was a today in the middle of the week,

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<v Speaker 2>people would take the day off and they probably stay

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<v Speaker 2>closer to home.

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<v Speaker 3>Great observations.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I make one more observation?

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<v Speaker 3>Push again? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you may have a few other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I don't know, I will, but your observations are

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<v Speaker 2>always spot on.

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<v Speaker 4>To go ahead, Well, every time they talk about the wars,

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<v Speaker 4>and they always say the men and women who died

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<v Speaker 4>in the Civil War, the First World War, the Second

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<v Speaker 4>World War, the Korean War, Vietnam. I think younger people

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<v Speaker 4>are going to get the idea that during these wars

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<v Speaker 4>there were a lot of women in the ranks and

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<v Speaker 4>there weren't. These were men who died. And as a

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<v Speaker 4>matter of fact, at Cambridge Cemetery they had a memorial

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<v Speaker 4>or they had a monument for fifty five Cambridge men

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<v Speaker 4>who died in the First World War and are buried abroad.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking, you know, they wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>women all the time. But I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>young people are going to get the idea that women

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<v Speaker 4>were fighting in the Revolutionary War, which is just not

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<v Speaker 4>the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that women were killed certainly during the

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<v Speaker 2>Civil War and during World War One and World War Two,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe less so in Korea, but I think that there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of women who were in the military

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<v Speaker 2>as nurses. I don't think what we see today we

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<v Speaker 2>see women. I was watching the ceremony with President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>both at West Point in Annapolis.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of women who are graduating.

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<v Speaker 5>In these days.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these days. But I mean, for example, on the

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<v Speaker 4>Vietnam Memorial in Washington, d C. There are the names

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<v Speaker 4>of fifty thousand American men.

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<v Speaker 3>Who died fifty eight thousand?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it fifty eight thousand? Do you know how many

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<v Speaker 4>women are on that memorial?

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<v Speaker 3>How going to guess a couple of hundred?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, thank you very much, And that puts it

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<v Speaker 2>in perspective. Steve great points again, times change and circumstances change,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are a lot of women who are in

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<v Speaker 5>So that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was very happy that I did go to

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that. Thanks, thank you, Dandy.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk So I got one line at six one,

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<v Speaker 3>What did you do today?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think about Memorial Day? Did you think about

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<v Speaker 2>Got to try to get everybody in here quickly go

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<v Speaker 2>to Larry, down to the Cape. Larry, you're next on

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<v Speaker 2>NISI go right ahead. You have thought some Memorial day.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, thanks for talking about this, Dan, I didn't get

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<v Speaker 7>So I'd like to honor my father. At the beginning

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<v Speaker 7>got shot down over Germany and his whole unit, the pilots,

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<v Speaker 7>story when they lined up all the prisoners and Nazi

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<v Speaker 7>asked all the Jews to step forward. Well, my father,

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<v Speaker 7>Italian passed over him. Okay, I'm unbelievable. So he was

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<v Speaker 7>He retired yuh young, but he started to get sick,

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<v Speaker 7>went to the VA. Turned out he ended up being

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<v Speaker 7>and their lungs. So he was an amazing guy. Never

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<v Speaker 7>and I knew he was and to die an amazing guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>the the captain of that ship, his plane was thank

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<v Speaker 2>god they were they were all you know, did they

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they were on a bombing mission over Germany and

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and all of them. I'm sure he kept in

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I don't think he did. He didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dad, I've mentioned this before, but uh, my

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. So what I did to honor for a Memorial

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<v Speaker 7>Day today where I live in Dennisport, and I had

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<v Speaker 7>to laugh with the who's the guy that answers the

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<v Speaker 7>phone today, your producer, and I told him I'm from Dennisport.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes, is that in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all of our guys are not geography majors. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure where Noah is from originally, but at least

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I couldn't get up to the Cormon where

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<v Speaker 7>they were having a nice ceremony because there was actually

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<v Speaker 7>a road race that came right through Dennisport, and our

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<v Speaker 7>streets were blocked off to allow the runners to come through.

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<v Speaker 7>So I went down the end of the street and

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<v Speaker 7>I cheered on. I cheered all the runners on for

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that also backing up what Steve said before,

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<v Speaker 2>you having a road raise some Memorial Day distracts from

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<v Speaker 2>what the purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Memorial Day is.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, at least it was. It was it was

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<v Speaker 7>But I agree as soon as they moved the holidays

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<v Speaker 3>You got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, Larry, Congratulations. Hopefully your dad is listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us tonight and he's very proud of your you know,

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<v Speaker 2>recalling for us what he and his crew went through.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, thank you, Thanks Larry.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to you soon. By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just doing some some research here, and there's an

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that in the War on Terror, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think the numbers about one hundred and seventy three Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 3>Back on Nightside after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, It's night Side with Dan Ray. Hey Dan, Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio. You're on night Side with Dan Ray on

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go back to the phones. If we

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<v Speaker 3>go to Linda down and way with Linda. Welcome next

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<v Speaker 7>How are you hi?

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<v Speaker 8>Fine? Thank you? My dad has passed. But when he

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<v Speaker 8>was alive on D Day, indeed on some of the

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<v Speaker 8>different Veterans Days, he would call up fellow veterans, talk

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<v Speaker 8>was going to go to a parade, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 8>have the parade down here in Weymouth. What they had

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<v Speaker 8>as an extended it's called Freedom is not free Memorial

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<v Speaker 8>Day observance and dedication ceremony. They had five bronze probably

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<v Speaker 8>statues of veterans from the town that player important role.

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<v Speaker 8>It lasted about an hour and a half and then

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<v Speaker 8>they had they ended with a concert by the military brass.

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<v Speaker 3>This was in Weymouth. That's right, No good, Weymouth did

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, i'd see incorrected. I thought it was for all veterans.

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<v Speaker 8>I used to work at the VA office.

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<v Speaker 3>No Veterans Day is Veterans Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Veterans Day, Okay, so that's when we honor all veterans.

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day focuses on those who have served. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>based upon what my first caller, Steve said, there were

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<v Speaker 2>eight women who died in Vietnam and they were all nurses.

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<v Speaker 2>There were eleven thousand female nurses who volunteered. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear what you were saying while you were

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<v Speaker 8>Excuse me, I'm sorry I interrupted by My mom was

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<v Speaker 8>First Days for the Veterans of World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>Were she that's called Were those called the wax?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, okay, I don't think she particular was in that

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're talking about eleven thousand women who served. We're

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<v Speaker 2>just we're kind of talking over each other here, Linda.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't work a lot, So let me just finish

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>There were eleven thousand women who served in the American

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<v Speaker 2>military in Vietnam. Many of them obviously were in the

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<v Speaker 2>captain and lieutenants, and they were on the front lines

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<v Speaker 2>because the front lines were not well defined in Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they say, eight of them died of combat

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Linda.

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<v Speaker 8>First off, I stand correct that I apologize, but we

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good, yeah, yeah, we've covered that, Linda. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your call, and thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 2>your parents' service and your dad's service. Thanks talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go quickly here. I'm going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>gym in south Hampton, Massachusetts. Is that Southampton, Massachusetts or

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<v Speaker 6>So for this day, I'm a vocational high school teacher

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<v Speaker 6>and I had a student who was killed in Iraq. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I always make a point to visit his

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, boy, that's Southampton. Are you out in the western

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Stateum, I'm trying to locate that in

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's west of Springfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah sure, okay, so you are still a tea teacher

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<v Speaker 2>and one of your students was killed in Iraq and

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, that's let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you, that's quite an honor for him. And it

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<v Speaker 2>also is I think really remarkable that as a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>teachers like you. Do you use his passing to you

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, I kind of make a point. If I get older,

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<v Speaker 6>as a kid, you didn't really think much about it

431
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<v Speaker 6>at the time though it was important to them. But

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<v Speaker 6>as I get older, I find a need to express

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<v Speaker 6>that to my current students, and they always pause and

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<v Speaker 6>think about it, you know when I talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Whether it sticks with them, I'm not really sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, look, I would suspect that if you

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<v Speaker 2>did a survey of students who took your classes, they

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<v Speaker 2>would do a lot better in terms of their recollection

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding of what Memorial Day is all about because

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<v Speaker 2>you took the time. I mean, again, what type of

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<v Speaker 2>course do you teach? Are you in high school? You

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<v Speaker 2>said you're a high school teacher.

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<v Speaker 6>I teach a landscaping in true care programs of vocational

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<v Speaker 6>high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so therefore it's not part of your curriculum. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that sort of conversation, even if it's for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes someday, is invaluable for young people to realize that, know,

448
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<v Speaker 2>people a little bit older than they went off to

449
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<v Speaker 2>the military and did not come home.

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<v Speaker 6>I would agree. And you know, as a teacher, I

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<v Speaker 6>mean I was in my early thirties when that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't something I expected to have to deal with

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<v Speaker 6>as a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, no, absolutely absolutely. And I assume you

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<v Speaker 2>probably started teaching before nine to eleven, correct, Yeah, so

456
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<v Speaker 2>when you became a teacher, nine to eleven hadn't occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what year your student, you know, graduated,

458
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<v Speaker 2>but I suspect it was after nine to eleven. And

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<v Speaker 2>he responded to the to the needs of the nation

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<v Speaker 2>at that point and put himself in harm's way.

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<v Speaker 3>What Bridge did?

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<v Speaker 2>Did that young man servant if I could ask?

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<v Speaker 6>He was in the army and he was. He was

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<v Speaker 6>a junior the year of nine to eleven, okay, and

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<v Speaker 6>then instead of two years after high school and died

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<v Speaker 6>not long after that. Yeah, so it was it was

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<v Speaker 6>kind of a powerful thing at the time. I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 6>to have been able to support kids through it, but

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<v Speaker 6>it certainly was something you never thought about, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as a young person.

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<v Speaker 2>And people never think about mortality. Would you mind sharing

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<v Speaker 2>as an honor to this student the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>student with us?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure.

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<v Speaker 6>His name was Matthew Bean.

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew Bean, like the E A N. Yes, Matthew Bean.

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<v Speaker 2>And he would have died I'm assuming at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty or twenty one something.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was in two thousand and five, so he

481
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<v Speaker 6>was pretty young. He graduated in two thousand and three, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>so we would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have graduated at probably eighteen and so he probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have been twenty or twenty one at most. Matthew Bean

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<v Speaker 2>of Southampton, Massachusetts, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 6>He actually lived in the town of Pembroke.

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<v Speaker 2>Pembroke, Okay, I'm sorry. In Pembroke on the south Shore.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I used to teach it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, great, Okay, well that's good. I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 2>you said that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's thank you for that clarification. So you taught

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<v Speaker 2>in Pembroke's Matthew Bean, being of Pembroke, Massachusetts. I drove

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<v Speaker 2>through Pembroke today as a matter of fact, so I

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly where Pembroke has. I had a tough locating

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<v Speaker 2>exactly Southampton because there's also Hampton Beach, New Hampshire, and

498
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<v Speaker 2>I was saying, gee, we talk in New Hampshire, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>But thank you for doing that today, and thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for following up with the phone call tonight. It was

501
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<v Speaker 3>really uh it's a memorable phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really do appreciate, Jim, the type of relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that you have had with your students. This speaks volumes

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<v Speaker 2>about your your relationship with your students and your relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with your profession.

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<v Speaker 3>We need more teachers like you, sir. Well, thank you, thanks,

507
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<v Speaker 3>thanks so much for joining us tonight. Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Bean, being of Pembroke Massachusetts pat killed in two

509
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<v Speaker 2>thousand and five.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Boy, it's tough. We'll be back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's News.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you we're gonna get Greg, John and Georgian.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me start it off with Greg. He's been on

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<v Speaker 2>the longest. Greg from Lindfield. Greg, next on Nightside. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you do to this memorial day?

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<v Speaker 3>Greg?

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<v Speaker 5>I went to the cemetery, I turned the prayer this morning.

519
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<v Speaker 5>Oh we'd love to hear the three guns in the taps.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah did, But yeah, did have any one who.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Gave their life in service of the country.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a great uncle.

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<v Speaker 9>That died in World War One.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously I never knew them.

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<v Speaker 9>My father served probably in the Army, and my grandfather

526
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<v Speaker 9>served in World War Two and was a tank driver

527
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<v Speaker 9>under General Patton.

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<v Speaker 5>But before I get into his story, which I want

529
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<v Speaker 5>to tell you, like when you said five hundred two

530
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<v Speaker 5>one thousand women died in World War Two, I think

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<v Speaker 5>they should honor the women that died in industrial accidents

532
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<v Speaker 5>building the war machine for this country, because.

533
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<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of women who worked on the

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<v Speaker 2>home front. Absolutely, Rosie the Riveter was the epitome of that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know my history and you obviously know

536
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<v Speaker 2>yours as well. But yeah, there were you know again

537
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<v Speaker 2>they were not There are more women who have who

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<v Speaker 2>died during the War on Terror. I think the number

539
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<v Speaker 2>was one hundred and seventy three. I have to go

540
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<v Speaker 2>back and look it up again. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>there were about five thousand US service personnel who died,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in World War Two there were rather Vietnam

543
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<v Speaker 2>there were eight women, primarily nurses, who were in helicopter

544
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<v Speaker 2>accidents or were at camp at bases and they were

545
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<v Speaker 2>shelled and they were killed. So each each military conflict,

546
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<v Speaker 2>it's a higher percentage of women. It's the numbers are

547
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<v Speaker 2>not equal to men as yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's more women serving men they were ever before.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Yeah, that's exactly true.

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<v Speaker 5>So I want to get in a story about So

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<v Speaker 5>my grandfather who got drafted in his mid thirties in

552
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<v Speaker 5>World War Two, and he was a barber before that,

553
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<v Speaker 5>and when he was in boot camp, his whole training group, battalion, platoon,

554
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<v Speaker 5>whatever you want to call him, came down to measles

555
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<v Speaker 5>and so for graduation because my grandfather was a barber.

556
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<v Speaker 5>He trimmed everyone proper, shaved them all. And there was

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<v Speaker 5>a they always had a general overseeing the graduation from

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<v Speaker 5>your boot camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, And the general was like, these guys have been

561
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<v Speaker 5>in quarantine for a month. How did they get all

562
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<v Speaker 5>clean shaven? And someone mentioned to him that one of

563
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<v Speaker 5>the guys was a barber. Yeah, and this is why

564
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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk about the greatest generation. That my

565
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<v Speaker 5>grandfather was approached by the general to be his personal barber.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good. How about that I missed it. He must

567
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<v Speaker 3>have liked the way the troops looked. That's a great story, Greg.

568
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<v Speaker 5>And you know what my grandfather said, Like, you know

569
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<v Speaker 5>what my grandfather.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Said, I bet he said, no, I want to stay

571
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<v Speaker 2>with my men.

572
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<v Speaker 5>He did, and he went and saw a hell in

573
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<v Speaker 5>the war. And he always he always said, he was

574
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<v Speaker 5>like I should have been the barber for that year.

575
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<v Speaker 3>But Betty did the right thing. He did the right thing.

576
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<v Speaker 5>He did like he won a bronze star. He wow.

577
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<v Speaker 5>But you know that's all I want to say.

578
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<v Speaker 2>I would say, I would say, you don't win bruns,

579
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<v Speaker 2>you earned them.

580
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And anyone today would just take easy way out and.

581
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<v Speaker 2>Be like some would some would in some would, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of young men and women today who

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<v Speaker 2>do not who do the right thing and dotate these

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<v Speaker 2>ways out, Greg, I love the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to get two more in here. Thank you,

586
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<v Speaker 3>my friend. Great call.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>John and Dorchester. John, want to get you in one

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<v Speaker 2>more in maybe go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>John, Hey, damn hey John, first time call up a

592
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<v Speaker 10>long time listener.

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<v Speaker 2>The round of applause here from our digital studio audience.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think no was able to find the button,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's okay, go right ahead, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 7>You're one of my favorite people aligned with Jack Williams,

598
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<v Speaker 7>Liz walks up.

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<v Speaker 2>And bob Blo belt, bob Blo bell ye bringing me back,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing me back here, buddy, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell you why I know all those people because after

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<v Speaker 7>I get out of Vietnam. Oh, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to disturb your body and stand okay, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to be like the other nice gentleman and all the

605
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<v Speaker 7>people that earlier gentlemen that talked it's emotional.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'm sure it's all about emotion, Yes, sir, So

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<v Speaker 10>I come out of Vietnam after shooting people, and I

608
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<v Speaker 10>worked with some of the nicest guys that you'd ever me.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know what they would do so they would

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<v Speaker 7>feel good. They shoot up heroin and then we'd go

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<v Speaker 7>out on patrol. Yeah everything, you know, so you know,

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<v Speaker 7>boom and then we'd go out. But anyway, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 7>I come back. I'm lucky enough to get the gi bill.

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<v Speaker 7>I go to Harvard undergrad. I go to Harvard Medical School.

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<v Speaker 7>I learned how to be a surgeon. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 7>seventy nine years old. Dam Okay, I've been around. I've

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<v Speaker 7>been around, all right. I know when did you get

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<v Speaker 7>out of college? Did you go to Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>State A long time ago? Yes, sir, you went to

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<v Speaker 3>Boston State, right, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you went to with my brother. Okay you all right,

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<v Speaker 7>long time ago, that was a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you did you practice? Did you practice?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Boston Medical?

626
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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

627
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Doctor Now it's no longer John from Dorchester. It's

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<v Speaker 3>doctor John.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, there you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, all right.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why that's why I know the guy you talked

633
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<v Speaker 7>to first times mountains. The other one was a sleep doctor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and trust trustmen, Dan. When it comes to sleep doctors.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't know how to operate on people. They don't

636
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<v Speaker 7>know how to do any stasiology, and they don't know

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<v Speaker 7>how to put people to sleep to make them feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, well, John, that's quite an experience

639
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<v Speaker 2>from the jungle to to to the operating room.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you that's right. It's really been something else

641
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<v Speaker 7>then you've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen a lot of different parts of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>not only geographically, but also uh in terms of the good,

644
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<v Speaker 2>the bad.

645
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<v Speaker 3>And the ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>John, I'm up against it. I hate to run here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your first time calling. Come on back again

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<v Speaker 2>and we can talk longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, thank you for your service. There's there's the applaud

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<v Speaker 2>for you. We got the button. Thanks John. Okay, bye bye,

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye. Unfortunately, George, if you hold over, I will

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<v Speaker 2>take one more call of George on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ten o'clock news. But I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>cram and George. I'll take you on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>if you'd like, stay with us back on night side.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to continue this conversation for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more than happy to open up some more lines

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<v Speaker 2>on this one. Okay, so we'll make an exception. If

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<v Speaker 2>the audience wants to go longer, we'll go longer. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>back on night Side,