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Speaker 1: Creativity is an addiction. We say yes to creativity because

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we're that unplugged in our lives, totally endcut because we

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make mistakes. So turn it into a tool. This is

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arrow unplugged, hey zero, and this is vocal dfrag asking

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the questions, questioning the answers, defragging.

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Speaker 2: I do it in two different areas.

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Speaker 1: One is in a handwritten journal, which I've been doing

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since November of twenty seventeen, and the other is this.

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Speaker 2: It's a walk.

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Speaker 1: This is what I call a transition walk, where you're

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transitioning throughout your day. We don't study our transitions. We

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just you know, you know, get disgusted with the way

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that we feel, and we do power drinks to kind

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of liven things up a bit, or we drain so

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much coffee into our gut that we get sick to

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our stomachs. But we don't listen or study our transitions.

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And so that's what this walk is about.

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Speaker 2: It. It's a transition walk.

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Speaker 1: And whatever's moving through the universe is moving through me,

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is making its way toward you. Asking the questions, questioning

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the answers. I was watching a program on Apple Plus TV.

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I believe it's called open door. And what this does

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is a machine. You lay your hands on it, and

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then you find out what you're really supposed to be

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doing in your real life. And when you think about it,

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you wonder what am I supposed to be doing? Where

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did things suddenly shift? And how did it shift? I mean,

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I can openly talk thirty five forty fifty minutes here

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about how things shifted in my radio career and suddenly

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I couldn't even get back to the original path. And

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yet that ten year old kid is still alive in

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me wondering what gifts. If you can't achieve what it

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is that I envisioned at this young age of ten,

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then are you cheating on me? Being very truthful to yourself,

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what do you think you were supposed to be doing

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in life that other people's decisions suayed you away from

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or took you away from in the way of bettering

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their business. You needed to be there for them. It's

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their money, you're their employee. Therefore your dreams really aren't

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that important. But what do you think you were supposed

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to be doing? And if you were to lay your

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hands on this one particular machine, what do you think

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your reaction would be? If you suddenly found out how

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far off your dreams you really are. I'm blessed with

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the opportunity to talk with a lot of creative people

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in music, writing, actors. So many of these people will

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share with you that, hey, I was doing this in life,

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and suddenly I found myself doing this, which led to this.

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Comedians who are given an opportunity to be on camera

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because society has loved them, they keep going back, but

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they never envisioned themselves being in that position of being

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on that camera. Is that part of their dream or

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are they far far far away from the galaxies of

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where their dreams were supposed to grow. Asking the questions,

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questioning the answers. That's what d FRAG is all about.

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And you know, it's very tough to say and very

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tough to write out what it is that you think

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you were supposed to be doing because you don't have

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the play by playbook, that book that said Okay, this

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is where I need you, this is the time I

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need you, and please please don't argue with me when

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you get there. The turning points in your life where

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suddenly you were going a different direction. A good example

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would be I had it figured out that I would

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be a master in martial arts a fourth dawn by

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twenty twelve. Yeah, well that didn't happen. The reason why

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is because in two thousand and nine, July eleventh, I

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had a heart attack and that put me back a year,

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year and a half. And then you know I got

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the third dawn. The body was already old at that time.

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Does that mean that, hey, look, you know you're a

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little pansy, you could still be in class. Well, you

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know what martial arts is not about that. You get

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tired of breaking the boards, you get tired of trying

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to do the high flying kicks, and when you're well

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over your mid fifties, it's kind of hard to find

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yourself in a dojong doing a jump turning hook kick.

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Speaker 2: But it's the expectation.

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Speaker 1: And then you start feeling guilty when the sobonym is

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looking at you and you know you're not doing it right,

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but he accepts your body's attempt. But it's not great

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and it's not some of your best. Now, was I

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supposed to be a master? I don't know what the

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story is on that. I just know that I was

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called into a room and I saw these guys doing

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martial arts. This wasn't inspired by a movie. It was

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just these guys doing martial arts. That's how I got

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into it, and then I invested in it and really

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became a hardcore martial artist mind, body and soul.

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Speaker 2: The foot Fist Way.

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Speaker 1: But the way it changed me though, was that it

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removed me from having an on air radio ego. I

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was able to look at my community, to participate with

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my community, to grow with my community. That's how martial

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arts played out. But getting back to you and getting

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back to where you think you should be, what do

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you think that is? And if you asked that question,

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do you find yourself in a position of.

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Speaker 2: What is my purpose?

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Speaker 1: Well, you have to have a plan, you have to

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have process, and through that there will be progress. But

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we stop asking the questions, we stop dreaming at a

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certain age because we think, well it's over. I'm forty

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and by god, I should have had this at twenty five.

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I'm done, when in reality, as long as you've got

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air in your lungs, you continue growing. So you might

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be asking, well, then why don't you go to the

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dojong anymore? The foot fist way, The way is what

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the schools don't teach, They don't teach you the way,

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the journey, the inside thoughts, that the mental ability to

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work your way through so many places of darkness, doubt, guilt, shame,

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learning the power of the way and then sharing your knowledge,

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teaching your knowledge, becoming a part of the community on

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that level. Because hey, in the real world, when we

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see somebody who is frumpy, who really looks like they're

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angry all the time, or their emotions are unlimited when

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it comes to having a keen sense of direction, you

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reach in.

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Speaker 2: You help them.

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Speaker 1: You know, teachers right now are very weak because because

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they don't have support, they're not getting paid enough and

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number three teachers are tired. Therefore, the community has got

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to take care of itself. The foot fist way. What

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is your way? If you were to put your hands

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on that machine and it shows you your true identity

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of who you are really supposed to be, ask the

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question question the answers, who would you be? And would

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you be happy about that? Sure, we have a lot

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of times in our lives that we don't feel comfortable

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talking about, and we had challenges that stopped us along

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the way. But we think the further we get away

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from it, the more we don't have to talk about it,

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when in fact that could be the roadblock, that could

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be the stone in the creek. The flow of life

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has stopped because of something that went wrong, or you

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felt it went wrong, when in fact it could have

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just been a test to find out how strong you

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really are. When it comes to being with future broadcasters,

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I always tell them, find the food that you do

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not like and put it in your pantry or your refrigerator,

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and I want you to be able to look at

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that food every single day, because when you get hungry,

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that food that you don't like could be the only

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protein or carb that you have, and it's going to

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require that for you to get through that storm. If

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you could have been anything else other than what you

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are right now putting your hands on that machine, what

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would you be. I can't answer that question because all

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of my memories and all of my ambitions are attached

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to radio.

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Speaker 2: The good, the bad, and the ugly.

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Speaker 1: In other words, all this had to happen for me

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to be where it is that I am right now.

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But if I put my hands on there and learn

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that I should have been a school teacher, I think

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I would accept that. But if it told me a

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different story, such as, well, you need to be at

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a grocery store and you need to be managing people.

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Not only that, you need to be making connections with

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a community that walks into a grocery store completely blind.

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People are running away from their personal lives to buy

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food because it's an escape and they know that food

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makes them feel good. Where would you be if you

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were to find out the deeper truth of what you

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were supposed to be? Who were the people that changed you?

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Do you forgive them? Do you understand why they made

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the decisions they did? Do you accept it as a

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test and was the test victorious? Or did it put

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you in a place of even deeper challenges and you've

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held onto that grudge all this time? What's stopping you

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from going back? What's stopping you from reaching out there

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and becoming this, this, and this in order to be

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what it is that you want to become. What's keeping

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you from it? The price of an education. I talk

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with a lot of people on NBC's The Voice, thirty

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six year olds and older that say they put family first,

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and then one day their spouse looked at him and said, hey, look,

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you know what do it one more time.

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Speaker 2: Just do it one more time. If it doesn't work out,

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then you know.

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Speaker 1: Being honest and open with yourself creates a connection to

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the inner.

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Speaker 2: Core of yourself.

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Speaker 1: That side of your personality is usually only known by you,

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and it usually tries to talk to you when you're

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in the bathroom mirror, when you're sitting alone in the

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front seat of the car, or when you're at work

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and there's too much work to be done, and then

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when it talks to you, it's often negative. Learning how

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to silence that beast requires even more conversation. Ask the

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question question the answers. If you were to put your

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hands on that machine and it revealed to your soul

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what it is that you were supposed to be doing,

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how would you deal with it?

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Speaker 2: Hi, Marin and that spoke Walde Frank