WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:15.560 This episode MA contained content of a graphic nature, including 2 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:20.839 descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals. 3 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:37.039 Listener discretion is advised. Hi, this is Tanya. Hi, this 4 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.880 is Shannon, and we are Crimes and Consequences, a hardcore 5 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:47.479 true crime podcast. Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya, how are you? 6 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:51.920 I am doing pretty good? Pretty good my standard response 7 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:57.320 every week when the other Tanya voices. 8 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:01.079 Are like you, limb, yeah, you know, we're under great 9 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:01.840 amount of stress. 10 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:06.680 It is mid October, Christmas will be here any day now. 11 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.840 Because I feel that this year went by so quickly 12 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:15.000 and that it's already the middle of October, and yeah, I. 13 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.959 Just you know, this has been the week I have 14 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.959 I think, enjoyed my back deck the most. You know, 15 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.799 when Levi was born in May, we were just wanting 16 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.680 to sleep, me and my daughter, you know, just taking turns. 17 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.519 Couldn't really enjoy the weather other than keeping the air 18 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.000 on in the house, and who really likes that all 19 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:39.400 the time. But today, you know, because I like to 20 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.920 enjoy a little herb on the back porch, on the 21 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:46.000 back deck, and I have been these past couple of days, 22 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.920 like the nice cool breeze I got my bell bottom 23 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.159 sweats on. I'm just I'm feeling bohemian. 24 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:59.040 In the suburbs of Michigan. Oh. Yes, so it's. 25 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.280 Been pretty lovely and you're getting ready to go to 26 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.280 the big fl Florida. 27 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.800 Yeah, fel Florida, Florida. In a couple of weeks, I 28 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:15.599 leave to go to Florida. I'm excited. I've been checking 29 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.319 the weather because it's hot as fuck all the time 30 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.960 in flores And are you going to go to Jupiter again? 31 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:26.479 Did you go last time? Did Hollywood? Oh? Okay, that's right, Yeah, 32 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:33.199 I had in Hollywood. Hollywood would So it's southern Florida, 33 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:38.719 so it's I'm imagining it's even hotter than northern Florida. Filtering, yes, 34 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.759 because when we went to a few years ago, my 35 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.599 husband and I and around the same time because our 36 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.520 anniversaries at the beginning of November, so we went around 37 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:49.479 the same time, and I just remember it was just 38 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.719 it's fucking sweltering there. Really. Yeah, I was so nice here. 39 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:56.159 I mean, you know, right, right, and guess what you 40 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.479 consider nice? But yeah, so I'm excited. I can't wait 41 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:02.560 to go. And I have not taken a vacation with 42 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.159 him in a few years because I can't get him 43 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.680 to go on a vacation. You're going to get into 44 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:12.199 Italy one day. I bet one day I'm going. You know, 45 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:18.360 we'll probably be seventy years old. But it's okay, we're here. 46 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:20.120 Well, what you got for us this week? 47 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.280 Well, I have a really interesting story this week. And 48 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.400 before I get into it, I just like to remind 49 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.800 everyone to hit subscribe or follow on whatever app you're 50 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.280 listening to. Our story takes place on the morning of 51 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.479 November twelfth, twenty sixteen. On that day, twenty six year 52 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:41.560 old Joey Comminale wasn't feeling that well. He was probably 53 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:46.319 coming down with a typical seasonal It's November, little cold, 54 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:50.199 something's going on. Yeah. Although most Saturdays Joey went to 55 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.879 New York City for a night of drinking and fun, 56 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:54.800 he wasn't sure if he was going to make it 57 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.479 that night. After a three hour nap and some convincing, 58 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.120 he changed his mind. I mean new York City for 59 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.960 a twenty six year old, Hell yeah. I eat One 60 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.639 of Joey's friends from college, Pretham. He was a part 61 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.039 time promoter in New York City, so he was able 62 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.560 to hook up their group of friends with tables and 63 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:19.839 bottle service at different clubs. On this night, Pritham was 64 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:23.319 getting the squad the VIP treatment at a club called 65 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:28.160 the Gilded Lily in the Meatpacking District. Now, at twenty 66 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.680 six years old, Joey had started creating a solid foundation 67 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.720 for the life that he was building for himself. While 68 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.480 he grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, Joey had since moved 69 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.240 out of his parents' home and into a townhouse of 70 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:45.720 his own, about three miles from his childhood home. Joey 71 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:49.920 came from the typical Italian family, strong ties, rich culture, 72 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.560 and a love of being together. Even though Joey now 73 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:56.120 lived on his own, he was always at his parents' 74 00:04:56.120 --> 00:05:00.160 house visiting. And this sounds exactly like my husband, A. 75 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.399 Good son, a wonderful and it does not like guess 76 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:05.639 your husband very much. 77 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.240 If he didn't have something going on with friends or work, 78 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.120 he was there, especially for a meal. I mean, you know, 79 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.519 thank you all over it. Growing up, family was everything 80 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.319 for the common Allis. Patsy and Lisa absolutely adored their 81 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:25.279 two children, Alexa and Joey. Although they now lived in Connecticut. 82 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.079 Father Patsy was a bronx boy at heart, Patsy founded 83 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.639 a security firm that ended up being very successful. He 84 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:37.279 actually sold it for four hundred million dollars. WHOA, Yeah, 85 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:41.600 the Commonali family was well off. Joey loved going to 86 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.360 the city, not just for the nightlife and food, but 87 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:48.600 for the sports too. He would attend Giants, Yankees, and 88 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.800 Knicks games regularly, often with his father. Joey and Patsy 89 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:57.439 had a unique father son bond. They both truly respected 90 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.839 and admired each other. Both Joey and Alexa attended west 91 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.000 Hill High School in Stamford. West Hill was one of 92 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.800 the large high schools in the area and was well 93 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.000 known for being good at sports and having rivalries with 94 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.120 other schools. Little fun fact about west Hill the CEO 95 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.839 of Nike from twenty twelve to twenty twenty, Mark Parker, 96 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:23.600 he went to high school there. Also the Governor of 97 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:28.439 Connecticut from twenty eleven to twenty nineteen, Dan al Mallory. 98 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.959 He attended West Hill. So it's churning out some pretty 99 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:36.160 successful people. Sounds like it. Joey played varsity baseball on 100 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.240 his high school team, and they won the state championship 101 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.040 While he was on the team. He also played hockey 102 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:47.240 which was his true passion. After graduation, Joey continued to flourish. 103 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.959 He went on to attend Hofstra University, where he received 104 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:55.240 a degree in legal studies and business. Hofstra is a 105 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:59.800 very small private college located on Long Island. They're typically 106 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.959 only about eleven thousand students. During his time at Hofstra, 107 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:07.920 Joey played on both the hockey and baseball teams. He 108 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.600 was also part of a fraternity, and this is where 109 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:14.680 Joey met his lifelong friends. Joey had a high impact 110 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.319 on the community there. He was very involved on campus 111 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:21.680 and according to literally all accounts, the world was a 112 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.639 better place because he was in it. So Joey was convinced, 113 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.879 and he and his friend Stephen hopped on the Merritt 114 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.720 Parkway and headed down to New York City to meet 115 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:34.600 up with some friends at the Gilded Lily on the 116 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.240 night of November twelfth. After a night of partying and 117 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.519 getting the VIP treatment, the club started to shut down 118 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:45.040 around three point thirty in the morning. This particular weekend, 119 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.279 New York City was especially charged up and feeling hot. 120 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.600 Just four days prior, Donald Trump was elected into office, 121 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.000 and people in New York City had been flocking to 122 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:58.480 Trump Tower for days to protest. As people are exiting 123 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.959 Gilded Lily, a fight broke out at the entrance, and 124 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.959 Joey and his friends all started to move across the street. 125 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.519 They gathered there for a cigarette and to watch things unfold. 126 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:11.920 While standing there, Stephen noticed that Joey was chatting up 127 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.399 three girls from New Jersey. Stephen recalled that Joey was 128 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.000 given him that look that told him he was interested 129 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.879 and wanted to keep hanging out with these girls. The 130 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.680 five of them were now forming a group and starting 131 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:27.240 to chat when two other guys decided to join them. 132 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.839 No one knew each other. Everyone was strangers except for 133 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.919 the people they joined the group with. At this point, 134 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:36.960 Steven needed to borrow Joey's phone to make a call, 135 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.360 so he stepped away from the conversation, turning his back 136 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:43.200 to them. By this time Stephen turned around, the group 137 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:47.399 was gone, so here stood Stephen holding Joey's phone. Now 138 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.879 alone on the street, Stephen discovered that Joey was on 139 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.559 his way to an apartment party downtown. Instead of tracking 140 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.120 him down, Steven decided to call it a night and 141 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:59.440 figured he would just give Joey his phone At some 142 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:04.000 point tomorrow. Stephen knew that at the mention of girls 143 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.600 a punthouse and some guy's dad being a jeweler, Joey 144 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.679 would be all over it, so he wasn't worried. By 145 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:14.000 late afternoon on Sunday, Joey's parents were starting to get worried. 146 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:18.080 It was very unlike Joey to miss family plans, especially 147 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.840 on a Sunday when it involved football and a family dinner. 148 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.240 Oh my gosh, right right, those are very serious. I 149 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.000 mean in a funny way, but also yeah, I'd be 150 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:32.960 very concerned. Mm hmm, Joey's had. Patsy decided to call 151 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.919 Joey's cell phone after he missed a dinner time and 152 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:40.039 Steven answered. Stephen hadn't heard from Joey at all that 153 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:42.759 day and was still holding onto his phone from the 154 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:46.440 night before. Patsy knew something bad had happened, and he 155 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.919 and Stephen got to work tracking down Joey. The first 156 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.440 thing that Patsy did was go to Joey's apartment, and 157 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:55.720 he wasn't there. Stephen reached out to Pritham, who was 158 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:57.759 able to get the phone number of one of the 159 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.639 guys that Joey and Steven met on the street night before. 160 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.600 This dude was twenty seven year old Larry Deloney. When 161 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.279 Pretham called him, Larry said he had no idea where 162 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:12.440 Joey went. This led Joey's close friends to become internets 163 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:18.639 loose themselves. Joey's very best friend, Max Branchanelli, wasted no time. 164 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.360 Like a good Internet sleuth, he used Larry's phone number 165 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.159 to find his Instagram account that was linked to that number. 166 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.960 After finding Larry's ig account, he used location services to 167 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.080 check other people who took pictures in and around the 168 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.879 Gilded Lily that night. He came through countless photos until 169 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:42.440 he finally found someone he recognized, a mutual friend named Alvin. 170 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.320 In the photo, Alvin is cozing up to a beautiful 171 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.240 girl with dark features, just like Joey's type outside the 172 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.720 Gilded Lily. Max knew the type of girls that Joey chased, 173 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.399 and he knew Joey met three girls last night, so 174 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.960 he immediately reached out to Alvin, wondering if he knew anything. 175 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:04.320 Stephen hit the jackpot. That girl pictured with Alvin went 176 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.240 to the same party as Joey, and Alvin had her 177 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.000 phone number. Immediately, Stephen called the woman, and she remembered 178 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:14.039 hanging out with Joey the night before. This girl said 179 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:17.320 that after the Gilded Lily, her and a few others 180 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:21.080 went to Jimmy's apartment to continue partying. The group of 181 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:25.519 people were drinking, snorting cocaine, playing games, and talking politics. 182 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.639 The girl didn't remember there being any hostility at all, 183 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.399 especially towards Joey, because he spent most of the night 184 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.080 chilling on a window sill, enjoying the view and observing 185 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.559 the group. The woman said that in the early morning hours, 186 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.039 Joey and another man, Larry, walked the girls out of 187 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:47.000 the building into their uber. She recalled that both the 188 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.559 men waved to them and then turned around to walk 189 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:53.360 back inside. When Stephen called Larry, Larry said that Joey 190 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.679 left in the uber with the girls. Joey was seen 191 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.200 on surveillance footage entering an apartment building with one the 192 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.919 men and the three women he left the club with. 193 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.399 A Short while later, the five of them are seen 194 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.840 on footage leaving the building. Then, at six point fifty am, 195 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.360 Joey is seen returning to the building with only the 196 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:17.519 unknown man, no girls this time. After this, Joey goes 197 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:22.600 dark someone was obviously lying, and the pit in Max's 198 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.159 stomach was continuing to grow. It really felt like something 199 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:30.240 horrible happened that night, he dug deeper. People who knew 200 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.840 Larry said that he was typically a pretty shy guy 201 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.679 unless he had a few drinks in him. Stephen knew 202 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.039 Larry was drinking quite a bit that night, and he 203 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.200 found out that Larry and basically everyone else had been 204 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.440 doing cocaine. One of the girls who were in the 205 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.000 car with the boys going back to Jimmy's apartment for 206 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:50.120 the party, actually took a picture of Larry and texted 207 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.480 it to her friend with his name in the last 208 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.759 four digits of his social Security number, just in case 209 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:03.600 the whom we give each other our locations, right wow? Yeah. Now. 210 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.320 It was later reported that the girls just did this 211 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.879 all in good fun, and they actually liked Larry and 212 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.639 described him as really kind and friendly. So back to 213 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:19.039 Max's investigation. From all accounts, when they arrived at Jimmy's, 214 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.279 he answered the door in jeans and he was shirtless. 215 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:27.399 The after attenders noticed that Jimmy took every chance he 216 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:30.519 could to mention his wealthy father, who was a jeweler 217 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.759 for the rich and famous. So I'm gonna tell you 218 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:34.759 a little bit about the other people who were at 219 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:38.200 this party. Larry was friends with Jimmy and that's how 220 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:42.279 everyone ended up there. Larry brought his childhood best friend 221 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:46.440 and current roommate, Max Gemma with him. This is a 222 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.960 different Max. So Joey had a friend, Max Branchadelli, and 223 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:54.399 now Larry has a friend, Max Gemma. So I'm gonna 224 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.519 call Max Gemma Gemma. Okay, okay. There are two girls 225 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.879 that came to the after party were friends with each other, 226 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:06.159 but strangers to Jabba and Larry, and Joey was a 227 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:10.240 stranger to all of them. Even though Max, Joey's friend, 228 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.159 had already talked to Larry to try to get more 229 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:18.200 details about where Joey went, Patsy, Joey's dad, decided to 230 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.279 call him himself a second time, and there was something 231 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.840 Larry said that didn't quite sit right with Patsy. Larry 232 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:29.639 said that the last he saw Joey, he was going 233 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.759 to get cigarettes. Patsy knew that Joey didn't smoke. You 234 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.039 could ask anyone who knew Joey and they would say 235 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.759 he's never bought a pack of cigarettes in his life. 236 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.320 At this point, Patsy decided that it was time to 237 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.840 go to the Stamford Police Department and report his son missing. 238 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.600 He gave the on duty officer Larry's phone number, and 239 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.080 the police called him. Larry told them basically the same 240 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.279 thing that he didn't know where Joey was, but the 241 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.720 other two guys at the party were Jimmy Racho and 242 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:05.080 Max Gemma. He also gave the police Jimmy's address, and 243 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.039 the building that Jimmy lived in was called Grand Sutton. 244 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.399 The Grand Sutton Building was notorious for being a luxurious 245 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.559 condo complex in the heart of one of the richest 246 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:19.879 areas of New York City, the Upper east Side. So 247 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.600 who the hell is Jimmy Larry and Max Gemma? Grand 248 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.600 Sutton is not a place where you'd think there would 249 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.519 be any trouble. Larry was a twenty eight year old 250 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:34.360 from Oceanport, New Jersey. Larry grew up in an affluent family. 251 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:40.279 His family actually raised and owned Thoroughbred horses. WHOA, that's 252 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:45.159 a rich yes, how do you do yeah? In twenty sixteen, 253 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.279 Larry was working in real estate and living in Jersey 254 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.399 City with Max Gemma as his roommate. Larry had a 255 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.120 record with the police, most of which were disorderly person 256 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.679 charges for drunken bar fights along the Jersey Shore. Larry 257 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:04.559 was drawn to Jimmy because, like Jimmy, Larry had trust 258 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:09.360 fund babies, spending money, and he liked shiny things. Max 259 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:13.200 Gemma also came from an affluent family in Oceanport, New Jersey. 260 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:17.600 Gemma's dad was actually the mayor of Oceanport, and then 261 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.559 he was a high level businessman doing business with families 262 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:27.320 like the Kushner's, who Ivanka Trump was married to Kushner. 263 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.320 In twenty sixteen, Gemma was living with Larry and Jersey City, 264 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:35.799 and he worked as a computer software salesman. Jimmy's pass 265 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:39.279 was a bit more jaded than Larry's in Jemma's. Jimmy 266 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.600 was born in March of ninety one to a single 267 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:46.039 mother in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Growing up, Jimmy struggled with 268 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.720 getting in with the wrong crowd and making stupid decisions, 269 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:53.879 sometimes dangerous. Jimmy's mother, Aaron, would talk about how not 270 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.600 having a stable father figure in his life was something 271 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.360 that deeply affected Jimmy as he grew up. He held 272 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.639 a long rap sheet in Florida. Between the years of 273 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:07.359 two thousand and seven to twenty eleven, Jimmy was arrested 274 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:12.200 more than eight times. He was arrested for trespassing, drug possession, 275 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:17.599 armed robbery, burglary, and even cutting off his own ankle 276 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.160 monitor during house arrest and spending a month on the run. 277 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.400 At the age of twenty one, Jimmy wanted a fresh start, 278 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:27.440 so he decided to pack up, leave his past behind, 279 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.799 and move to New York City. This move would change 280 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:35.799 everything for him now Apparently. A few years before Jimmy 281 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.519 moved to New York City, he met a man named 282 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:44.440 Jeffrey Rackover in Florida. Jeffrey, who was nearly thirty years 283 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.880 Jimmy's senior, was a very successful jeweler. Some of his 284 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:55.039 notable clients included Milania Trump, Jennifer Lopez, and Alton John. 285 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.640 Jeffrey and Jimmy became really close after a meeting and 286 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:03.160 eventually formed a more intimate relationship. When in twenty fifteen, 287 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:09.480 Jimmy changed his last name from Bedwin to Rackover, rumors 288 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.400 swirled in the New York City social circles that Jimmy 289 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:16.279 and Jeffrey had a romantic relationship, but the par insisted 290 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:22.319 that it was just like a father's son bond. Yeah, okay, Liberachi, 291 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.079 that's who I think of when we're just see I'm 292 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.559 a mentor. Yeah, I'm a mentor. Jimmy would often refer 293 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.559 to Jeffrey as his long lost father, and being Jeffrey's 294 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:39.400 so called son came with it many benefits. First, Jeffrey 295 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:42.640 got Jimmy an apartment in the Grand Sutton Building, and 296 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.759 he paid for it. He also got Jimmy a job 297 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:50.440 working as an insurance broker specializing in jewelry and fine art. 298 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:55.759 Jimmy Ubert around New York City, had an Equinox membership, 299 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.599 drank and dined at the finest restaurants in bars, and 300 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:04.119 wore custom tailored suits from Seville Row. He was truly 301 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:08.720 living that New York City socialite lifestyle and Jeffrey was 302 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:12.920 bankrolling it. Uh huh. Because I was just thinking how dB. 303 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.720 In their bedroom Blay would be. 304 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:20.880 The role playing. Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna be a 305 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.759 little dubious of this father son shit, but anyway, I'm 306 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:25.000 totally dubious. 307 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:28.400 I Mean, my mind went everywhere from diaper wearing to 308 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:30.279 I don't even know but. 309 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.079 It is not kink shaming. But we're totally not kink 310 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.799 shaming police. Yeah, I'm just saying yeah, maybe because I 311 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:43.079 can I hear kink. Yeah, something's going on here, speak 312 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:48.079 a little kink, but neither here nor there. After filing 313 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.519 the missing person report with the Sanford Police, Patsy felt 314 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.720 it was important to file another with the New York 315 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:58.839 City Police Department as well. Now, Monday morning, it had 316 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:02.039 been over twenty five hours since the last time Joey 317 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:07.000 was seen alive. When Patsy arrived at the NYPD seventeenth Precinct, 318 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.240 he met Detective Castro, and he told him every single 319 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:15.119 thing that he knew already about his missing son. Immediately, 320 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.680 Detective Castro suggested to Patsy that they should drive over 321 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:21.559 to Grand Sutton right then and there, and they did. 322 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.240 When they got to Grand Sutton, Detective Castro spoke with 323 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.720 the building security and got access to the surveillance footage 324 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:32.160 from Saturday night into Sunday morning, and that's when they 325 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.559 see him, Joey and another man who we now know 326 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:38.680 is Larry walking the girls out to an uber before 327 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.960 turning around and heading back inside together. Patsy was sick 328 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.200 to his stomach and stepped out of the building to 329 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.839 make a few calls and get some air. As soon 330 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:50.240 as he stepped outside, the garbage truck pulled up, and 331 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:54.240 Patsy literally ran back into the building and begged police 332 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.400 to stop the truck from taking away any garbage from 333 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.400 Grandsutton that morning. He just had a gut feel that 334 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:04.279 something horrible happened to his son under the Grand Sutton roof, 335 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:08.720 and sadly he was right. Relatively quickly, police found trash 336 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:13.720 bags that contained Joey's bloody pants and shirt, his driver's license, 337 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.519 and a special chain that his father had gifted him 338 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:20.079 that he always wore. Oh my gosh. At that moment, 339 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.440 Patsy knew that his son did not walk out of 340 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.880 the Grand Sutton alive on Sunday morning. This case quickly 341 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:31.720 turned from missing person to a homicide case. Knowing that Larry, 342 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.920 Gemma and Jimmy were the last three people to see 343 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:38.799 Joey alive, police used their movements after Joey was last 344 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.039 seen to try and figure out what happened on Sunday night. 345 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.759 Jimmy is seen on Grand Sutton surveillance footage leaving the 346 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:50.519 property in his father's Mercedes Benz. Police entered license plate 347 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:54.640 number into a search on NYPD's traffic and street cameras, 348 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:58.079 and boom, they were able to follow Jimmy's movements from 349 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:02.359 Grand Sutton down f D hour Drive, then south around 350 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:06.839 southern Manhattan, then jumped into the Holland Tunnel that would 351 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:09.519 spit him out somewhere in New Jersey. After the car 352 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.200 goes into the Holland Tunnel, they lose it, but this 353 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:16.200 was still an amazing lead. They just cad, yeah, right, 354 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:20.039 They just needed someone to crack, and then someone was Larry. 355 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.519 It was obvious to investigators that Larry was anxious. He 356 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:28.559 agreed to come to them later that week, and the 357 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.200 police just felt like he wanted to tell them something. 358 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.400 Police told Larry, hey, we've got a missing kid here 359 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:37.039 and his family's really worried. Anything at all that you 360 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.240 can remember is helpful. That was enough for Larry, and 361 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:42.759 he started telling the story of what happened that night. 362 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.599 From the top. Larry said that once the group got 363 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.359 back to Jimmy's apartment, everything was fun. At first. Larry 364 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.279 talked about how he and Jimmy had a competition to 365 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.400 see who could give the best lap dance everyone was drinking, 366 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.680 smoking cigarettes, and doing various amounts of cocaine. All this 367 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.599 was corroborated by video evidence that one of the girls 368 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:06.400 had taken on her phone from that night. It wasn't 369 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.240 until after the girl's left at around six forty five 370 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:13.240 am on Sunday morning that things went south. According to Larry, 371 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.440 once he and Joey got back inside Jimmy's apartment, they 372 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:20.519 started getting into a disagreement. Larry said that Joey said 373 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:24.160 something along the lines of how Jimmy got the coke, 374 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:28.359 he brought cigarettes and Larry brought nothing to the party. 375 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.440 Larry recalled that Joey was actually pissed and that he 376 00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.200 had slammed his hand down on the coffee table when 377 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.880 he said the comment. Larry snapped and immediately tackled Joey 378 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.119 to the ground in Jimmy's living room, Larry said that 379 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.400 he was on top of Joey and he was just swinging. 380 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.319 Larry said that Jimmy was an avid boxer, the pair 381 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.480 often boxed together, and that he jumped in with Larry. 382 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:55.359 The beating turned fatal as both Larry and Jimmy continued 383 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:58.960 to beat Joey even though he was unconscious and gurgling 384 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.799 on the floor. According to Larry, Gemma was asleep on 385 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.839 the couch the entire time. Once Gemma woke up and 386 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.960 saw Larry and Jimmy beating Joey's lifeless body, Larry told 387 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.160 police that he instructed Gemma to leave immediately and tell 388 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:18.720 no one. Apparently, Gemma waking up terrified him, and Larry 389 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.599 was now scared of the situation they were in. Gemma 390 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.680 did leave, but things only got worse from there. Larry 391 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.279 said that Jimmy then started stabbing Joey's lifeless body. After 392 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:35.319 stabbing Joey to death, Jimmy apparently dragged Joey's body into 393 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.559 the bathroom and into the tub. What Jimmy attempted next 394 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:42.839 was just absolutely horrible. Larry told police that Jimmy then 395 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:46.519 attempted to dismember Joey's body. Now, if you know anything 396 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:50.720 about true crime, you may know that dismemberment is not easy. 397 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.920 Jimmy tried to use a serrated knife for this, which 398 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.440 is basically a kitchen knife. Realizing that their plan was shit, 399 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:01.640 Larry and Jimmy started to frantically clean apartment. They used 400 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:05.119 bleach on most of the apartment to mop up Joey's blood. 401 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:08.640