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Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. Hi, this is Tanya. Hi, this
Speaker 1: is Shannon, and we are Crimes and Consequences, a hardcore
Speaker 1: true crime podcast. Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya, how are you?
Speaker 1: I am doing pretty good? Pretty good my standard response
Speaker 1: every week when the other Tanya voices.
Speaker 2: Are like you, limb, yeah, you know, we're under great
Speaker 2: amount of stress.
Speaker 1: It is mid October, Christmas will be here any day now.
Speaker 1: Because I feel that this year went by so quickly
Speaker 1: and that it's already the middle of October, and yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just you know, this has been the week I have
Speaker 2: I think, enjoyed my back deck the most. You know,
Speaker 2: when Levi was born in May, we were just wanting
Speaker 2: to sleep, me and my daughter, you know, just taking turns.
Speaker 2: Couldn't really enjoy the weather other than keeping the air
Speaker 2: on in the house, and who really likes that all
Speaker 2: the time. But today, you know, because I like to
Speaker 2: enjoy a little herb on the back porch, on the
Speaker 2: back deck, and I have been these past couple of days,
Speaker 2: like the nice cool breeze I got my bell bottom
Speaker 2: sweats on. I'm just I'm feeling bohemian.
Speaker 1: In the suburbs of Michigan. Oh. Yes, so it's.
Speaker 2: Been pretty lovely and you're getting ready to go to
Speaker 2: the big fl Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fel Florida, Florida. In a couple of weeks, I
Speaker 1: leave to go to Florida. I'm excited. I've been checking
Speaker 1: the weather because it's hot as fuck all the time
Speaker 1: in flores And are you going to go to Jupiter again?
Speaker 1: Did you go last time? Did Hollywood? Oh? Okay, that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had in Hollywood. Hollywood would So it's southern Florida,
Speaker 1: so it's I'm imagining it's even hotter than northern Florida. Filtering, yes,
Speaker 1: because when we went to a few years ago, my
Speaker 1: husband and I and around the same time because our
Speaker 1: anniversaries at the beginning of November, so we went around
Speaker 1: the same time, and I just remember it was just
Speaker 1: it's fucking sweltering there. Really. Yeah, I was so nice here.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, right, right, and guess what you
Speaker 1: consider nice? But yeah, so I'm excited. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to go. And I have not taken a vacation with
Speaker 1: him in a few years because I can't get him
Speaker 1: to go on a vacation. You're going to get into
Speaker 1: Italy one day. I bet one day I'm going. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll probably be seventy years old. But it's okay, we're here.
Speaker 2: Well, what you got for us this week?
Speaker 1: Well, I have a really interesting story this week. And
Speaker 1: before I get into it, I just like to remind
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Speaker 1: listening to. Our story takes place on the morning of
Speaker 1: November twelfth, twenty sixteen. On that day, twenty six year
Speaker 1: old Joey Comminale wasn't feeling that well. He was probably
Speaker 1: coming down with a typical seasonal It's November, little cold,
Speaker 1: something's going on. Yeah. Although most Saturdays Joey went to
Speaker 1: New York City for a night of drinking and fun,
Speaker 1: he wasn't sure if he was going to make it
Speaker 1: that night. After a three hour nap and some convincing,
Speaker 1: he changed his mind. I mean new York City for
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old, Hell yeah. I eat One
Speaker 1: of Joey's friends from college, Pretham. He was a part
Speaker 1: time promoter in New York City, so he was able
Speaker 1: to hook up their group of friends with tables and
Speaker 1: bottle service at different clubs. On this night, Pritham was
Speaker 1: getting the squad the VIP treatment at a club called
Speaker 1: the Gilded Lily in the Meatpacking District. Now, at twenty
Speaker 1: six years old, Joey had started creating a solid foundation
Speaker 1: for the life that he was building for himself. While
Speaker 1: he grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, Joey had since moved
Speaker 1: out of his parents' home and into a townhouse of
Speaker 1: his own, about three miles from his childhood home. Joey
Speaker 1: came from the typical Italian family, strong ties, rich culture,
Speaker 1: and a love of being together. Even though Joey now
Speaker 1: lived on his own, he was always at his parents'
Speaker 1: house visiting. And this sounds exactly like my husband, A.
Speaker 2: Good son, a wonderful and it does not like guess
Speaker 2: your husband very much.
Speaker 1: If he didn't have something going on with friends or work,
Speaker 1: he was there, especially for a meal. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: thank you all over it. Growing up, family was everything
Speaker 1: for the common Allis. Patsy and Lisa absolutely adored their
Speaker 1: two children, Alexa and Joey. Although they now lived in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Father Patsy was a bronx boy at heart, Patsy founded
Speaker 1: a security firm that ended up being very successful. He
Speaker 1: actually sold it for four hundred million dollars. WHOA, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Commonali family was well off. Joey loved going to
Speaker 1: the city, not just for the nightlife and food, but
Speaker 1: for the sports too. He would attend Giants, Yankees, and
Speaker 1: Knicks games regularly, often with his father. Joey and Patsy
Speaker 1: had a unique father son bond. They both truly respected
Speaker 1: and admired each other. Both Joey and Alexa attended west
Speaker 1: Hill High School in Stamford. West Hill was one of
Speaker 1: the large high schools in the area and was well
Speaker 1: known for being good at sports and having rivalries with
Speaker 1: other schools. Little fun fact about west Hill the CEO
Speaker 1: of Nike from twenty twelve to twenty twenty, Mark Parker,
Speaker 1: he went to high school there. Also the Governor of
Speaker 1: Connecticut from twenty eleven to twenty nineteen, Dan al Mallory.
Speaker 1: He attended West Hill. So it's churning out some pretty
Speaker 1: successful people. Sounds like it. Joey played varsity baseball on
Speaker 1: his high school team, and they won the state championship
Speaker 1: While he was on the team. He also played hockey
Speaker 1: which was his true passion. After graduation, Joey continued to flourish.
Speaker 1: He went on to attend Hofstra University, where he received
Speaker 1: a degree in legal studies and business. Hofstra is a
Speaker 1: very small private college located on Long Island. They're typically
Speaker 1: only about eleven thousand students. During his time at Hofstra,
Speaker 1: Joey played on both the hockey and baseball teams. He
Speaker 1: was also part of a fraternity, and this is where
Speaker 1: Joey met his lifelong friends. Joey had a high impact
Speaker 1: on the community there. He was very involved on campus
Speaker 1: and according to literally all accounts, the world was a
Speaker 1: better place because he was in it. So Joey was convinced,
Speaker 1: and he and his friend Stephen hopped on the Merritt
Speaker 1: Parkway and headed down to New York City to meet
Speaker 1: up with some friends at the Gilded Lily on the
Speaker 1: night of November twelfth. After a night of partying and
Speaker 1: getting the VIP treatment, the club started to shut down
Speaker 1: around three point thirty in the morning. This particular weekend,
Speaker 1: New York City was especially charged up and feeling hot.
Speaker 1: Just four days prior, Donald Trump was elected into office,
Speaker 1: and people in New York City had been flocking to
Speaker 1: Trump Tower for days to protest. As people are exiting
Speaker 1: Gilded Lily, a fight broke out at the entrance, and
Speaker 1: Joey and his friends all started to move across the street.
Speaker 1: They gathered there for a cigarette and to watch things unfold.
Speaker 1: While standing there, Stephen noticed that Joey was chatting up
Speaker 1: three girls from New Jersey. Stephen recalled that Joey was
Speaker 1: given him that look that told him he was interested
Speaker 1: and wanted to keep hanging out with these girls. The
Speaker 1: five of them were now forming a group and starting
Speaker 1: to chat when two other guys decided to join them.
Speaker 1: No one knew each other. Everyone was strangers except for
Speaker 1: the people they joined the group with. At this point,
Speaker 1: Steven needed to borrow Joey's phone to make a call,
Speaker 1: so he stepped away from the conversation, turning his back
Speaker 1: to them. By this time Stephen turned around, the group
Speaker 1: was gone, so here stood Stephen holding Joey's phone. Now
Speaker 1: alone on the street, Stephen discovered that Joey was on
Speaker 1: his way to an apartment party downtown. Instead of tracking
Speaker 1: him down, Steven decided to call it a night and
Speaker 1: figured he would just give Joey his phone At some
Speaker 1: point tomorrow. Stephen knew that at the mention of girls
Speaker 1: a punthouse and some guy's dad being a jeweler, Joey
Speaker 1: would be all over it, so he wasn't worried. By
Speaker 1: late afternoon on Sunday, Joey's parents were starting to get worried.
Speaker 1: It was very unlike Joey to miss family plans, especially
Speaker 1: on a Sunday when it involved football and a family dinner.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, right right, those are very serious. I
Speaker 1: mean in a funny way, but also yeah, I'd be
Speaker 1: very concerned. Mm hmm, Joey's had. Patsy decided to call
Speaker 1: Joey's cell phone after he missed a dinner time and
Speaker 1: Steven answered. Stephen hadn't heard from Joey at all that
Speaker 1: day and was still holding onto his phone from the
Speaker 1: night before. Patsy knew something bad had happened, and he
Speaker 1: and Stephen got to work tracking down Joey. The first
Speaker 1: thing that Patsy did was go to Joey's apartment, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't there. Stephen reached out to Pritham, who was
Speaker 1: able to get the phone number of one of the
Speaker 1: guys that Joey and Steven met on the street night before.
Speaker 1: This dude was twenty seven year old Larry Deloney. When
Speaker 1: Pretham called him, Larry said he had no idea where
Speaker 1: Joey went. This led Joey's close friends to become internets
Speaker 1: loose themselves. Joey's very best friend, Max Branchanelli, wasted no time.
Speaker 1: Like a good Internet sleuth, he used Larry's phone number
Speaker 1: to find his Instagram account that was linked to that number.
Speaker 1: After finding Larry's ig account, he used location services to
Speaker 1: check other people who took pictures in and around the
Speaker 1: Gilded Lily that night. He came through countless photos until
Speaker 1: he finally found someone he recognized, a mutual friend named Alvin.
Speaker 1: In the photo, Alvin is cozing up to a beautiful
Speaker 1: girl with dark features, just like Joey's type outside the
Speaker 1: Gilded Lily. Max knew the type of girls that Joey chased,
Speaker 1: and he knew Joey met three girls last night, so
Speaker 1: he immediately reached out to Alvin, wondering if he knew anything.
Speaker 1: Stephen hit the jackpot. That girl pictured with Alvin went
Speaker 1: to the same party as Joey, and Alvin had her
Speaker 1: phone number. Immediately, Stephen called the woman, and she remembered
Speaker 1: hanging out with Joey the night before. This girl said
Speaker 1: that after the Gilded Lily, her and a few others
Speaker 1: went to Jimmy's apartment to continue partying. The group of
Speaker 1: people were drinking, snorting cocaine, playing games, and talking politics.
Speaker 1: The girl didn't remember there being any hostility at all,
Speaker 1: especially towards Joey, because he spent most of the night
Speaker 1: chilling on a window sill, enjoying the view and observing
Speaker 1: the group. The woman said that in the early morning hours,
Speaker 1: Joey and another man, Larry, walked the girls out of
Speaker 1: the building into their uber. She recalled that both the
Speaker 1: men waved to them and then turned around to walk
Speaker 1: back inside. When Stephen called Larry, Larry said that Joey
Speaker 1: left in the uber with the girls. Joey was seen
Speaker 1: on surveillance footage entering an apartment building with one the
Speaker 1: men and the three women he left the club with.
Speaker 1: A Short while later, the five of them are seen
Speaker 1: on footage leaving the building. Then, at six point fifty am,
Speaker 1: Joey is seen returning to the building with only the
Speaker 1: unknown man, no girls this time. After this, Joey goes
Speaker 1: dark someone was obviously lying, and the pit in Max's
Speaker 1: stomach was continuing to grow. It really felt like something
Speaker 1: horrible happened that night, he dug deeper. People who knew
Speaker 1: Larry said that he was typically a pretty shy guy
Speaker 1: unless he had a few drinks in him. Stephen knew
Speaker 1: Larry was drinking quite a bit that night, and he
Speaker 1: found out that Larry and basically everyone else had been
Speaker 1: doing cocaine. One of the girls who were in the
Speaker 1: car with the boys going back to Jimmy's apartment for
Speaker 1: the party, actually took a picture of Larry and texted
Speaker 1: it to her friend with his name in the last
Speaker 1: four digits of his social Security number, just in case
Speaker 1: the whom we give each other our locations, right wow? Yeah. Now.
Speaker 1: It was later reported that the girls just did this
Speaker 1: all in good fun, and they actually liked Larry and
Speaker 1: described him as really kind and friendly. So back to
Speaker 1: Max's investigation. From all accounts, when they arrived at Jimmy's,
Speaker 1: he answered the door in jeans and he was shirtless.
Speaker 1: The after attenders noticed that Jimmy took every chance he
Speaker 1: could to mention his wealthy father, who was a jeweler
Speaker 1: for the rich and famous. So I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: a little bit about the other people who were at
Speaker 1: this party. Larry was friends with Jimmy and that's how
Speaker 1: everyone ended up there. Larry brought his childhood best friend
Speaker 1: and current roommate, Max Gemma with him. This is a
Speaker 1: different Max. So Joey had a friend, Max Branchadelli, and
Speaker 1: now Larry has a friend, Max Gemma. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call Max Gemma Gemma. Okay, okay. There are two girls
Speaker 1: that came to the after party were friends with each other,
Speaker 1: but strangers to Jabba and Larry, and Joey was a
Speaker 1: stranger to all of them. Even though Max, Joey's friend,
Speaker 1: had already talked to Larry to try to get more
Speaker 1: details about where Joey went, Patsy, Joey's dad, decided to
Speaker 1: call him himself a second time, and there was something
Speaker 1: Larry said that didn't quite sit right with Patsy. Larry
Speaker 1: said that the last he saw Joey, he was going
Speaker 1: to get cigarettes. Patsy knew that Joey didn't smoke. You
Speaker 1: could ask anyone who knew Joey and they would say
Speaker 1: he's never bought a pack of cigarettes in his life.
Speaker 1: At this point, Patsy decided that it was time to
Speaker 1: go to the Stamford Police Department and report his son missing.
Speaker 1: He gave the on duty officer Larry's phone number, and
Speaker 1: the police called him. Larry told them basically the same
Speaker 1: thing that he didn't know where Joey was, but the
Speaker 1: other two guys at the party were Jimmy Racho and
Speaker 1: Max Gemma. He also gave the police Jimmy's address, and
Speaker 1: the building that Jimmy lived in was called Grand Sutton.
Speaker 1: The Grand Sutton Building was notorious for being a luxurious
Speaker 1: condo complex in the heart of one of the richest
Speaker 1: areas of New York City, the Upper east Side. So
Speaker 1: who the hell is Jimmy Larry and Max Gemma? Grand
Speaker 1: Sutton is not a place where you'd think there would
Speaker 1: be any trouble. Larry was a twenty eight year old
Speaker 1: from Oceanport, New Jersey. Larry grew up in an affluent family.
Speaker 1: His family actually raised and owned Thoroughbred horses. WHOA, that's
Speaker 1: a rich yes, how do you do yeah? In twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Larry was working in real estate and living in Jersey
Speaker 1: City with Max Gemma as his roommate. Larry had a
Speaker 1: record with the police, most of which were disorderly person
Speaker 1: charges for drunken bar fights along the Jersey Shore. Larry
Speaker 1: was drawn to Jimmy because, like Jimmy, Larry had trust
Speaker 1: fund babies, spending money, and he liked shiny things. Max
Speaker 1: Gemma also came from an affluent family in Oceanport, New Jersey.
Speaker 1: Gemma's dad was actually the mayor of Oceanport, and then
Speaker 1: he was a high level businessman doing business with families
Speaker 1: like the Kushner's, who Ivanka Trump was married to Kushner.
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Gemma was living with Larry and Jersey City,
Speaker 1: and he worked as a computer software salesman. Jimmy's pass
Speaker 1: was a bit more jaded than Larry's in Jemma's. Jimmy
Speaker 1: was born in March of ninety one to a single
Speaker 1: mother in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Growing up, Jimmy struggled with
Speaker 1: getting in with the wrong crowd and making stupid decisions,
Speaker 1: sometimes dangerous. Jimmy's mother, Aaron, would talk about how not
Speaker 1: having a stable father figure in his life was something
Speaker 1: that deeply affected Jimmy as he grew up. He held
Speaker 1: a long rap sheet in Florida. Between the years of
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven to twenty eleven, Jimmy was arrested
Speaker 1: more than eight times. He was arrested for trespassing, drug possession,
Speaker 1: armed robbery, burglary, and even cutting off his own ankle
Speaker 1: monitor during house arrest and spending a month on the run.
Speaker 1: At the age of twenty one, Jimmy wanted a fresh start,
Speaker 1: so he decided to pack up, leave his past behind,
Speaker 1: and move to New York City. This move would change
Speaker 1: everything for him now Apparently. A few years before Jimmy
Speaker 1: moved to New York City, he met a man named
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Rackover in Florida. Jeffrey, who was nearly thirty years
Speaker 1: Jimmy's senior, was a very successful jeweler. Some of his
Speaker 1: notable clients included Milania Trump, Jennifer Lopez, and Alton John.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and Jimmy became really close after a meeting and
Speaker 1: eventually formed a more intimate relationship. When in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: Jimmy changed his last name from Bedwin to Rackover, rumors
Speaker 1: swirled in the New York City social circles that Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey had a romantic relationship, but the par insisted
Speaker 1: that it was just like a father's son bond. Yeah, okay, Liberachi,
Speaker 1: that's who I think of when we're just see I'm
Speaker 1: a mentor. Yeah, I'm a mentor. Jimmy would often refer
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey as his long lost father, and being Jeffrey's
Speaker 1: so called son came with it many benefits. First, Jeffrey
Speaker 1: got Jimmy an apartment in the Grand Sutton Building, and
Speaker 1: he paid for it. He also got Jimmy a job
Speaker 1: working as an insurance broker specializing in jewelry and fine art.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ubert around New York City, had an Equinox membership,
Speaker 1: drank and dined at the finest restaurants in bars, and
Speaker 1: wore custom tailored suits from Seville Row. He was truly
Speaker 1: living that New York City socialite lifestyle and Jeffrey was
Speaker 1: bankrolling it. Uh huh. Because I was just thinking how dB.
Speaker 2: In their bedroom Blay would be.
Speaker 1: The role playing. Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: little dubious of this father son shit, but anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: totally dubious.
Speaker 2: I Mean, my mind went everywhere from diaper wearing to
Speaker 2: I don't even know but.
Speaker 1: It is not kink shaming. But we're totally not kink
Speaker 1: shaming police. Yeah, I'm just saying yeah, maybe because I
Speaker 1: can I hear kink. Yeah, something's going on here, speak
Speaker 1: a little kink, but neither here nor there. After filing
Speaker 1: the missing person report with the Sanford Police, Patsy felt
Speaker 1: it was important to file another with the New York
Speaker 1: City Police Department as well. Now, Monday morning, it had
Speaker 1: been over twenty five hours since the last time Joey
Speaker 1: was seen alive. When Patsy arrived at the NYPD seventeenth Precinct,
Speaker 1: he met Detective Castro, and he told him every single
Speaker 1: thing that he knew already about his missing son. Immediately,
Speaker 1: Detective Castro suggested to Patsy that they should drive over
Speaker 1: to Grand Sutton right then and there, and they did.
Speaker 1: When they got to Grand Sutton, Detective Castro spoke with
Speaker 1: the building security and got access to the surveillance footage
Speaker 1: from Saturday night into Sunday morning, and that's when they
Speaker 1: see him, Joey and another man who we now know
Speaker 1: is Larry walking the girls out to an uber before
Speaker 1: turning around and heading back inside together. Patsy was sick
Speaker 1: to his stomach and stepped out of the building to
Speaker 1: make a few calls and get some air. As soon
Speaker 1: as he stepped outside, the garbage truck pulled up, and
Speaker 1: Patsy literally ran back into the building and begged police
Speaker 1: to stop the truck from taking away any garbage from
Speaker 1: Grandsutton that morning. He just had a gut feel that
Speaker 1: something horrible happened to his son under the Grand Sutton roof,
Speaker 1: and sadly he was right. Relatively quickly, police found trash
Speaker 1: bags that contained Joey's bloody pants and shirt, his driver's license,
Speaker 1: and a special chain that his father had gifted him
Speaker 1: that he always wore. Oh my gosh. At that moment,
Speaker 1: Patsy knew that his son did not walk out of
Speaker 1: the Grand Sutton alive on Sunday morning. This case quickly
Speaker 1: turned from missing person to a homicide case. Knowing that Larry,
Speaker 1: Gemma and Jimmy were the last three people to see
Speaker 1: Joey alive, police used their movements after Joey was last
Speaker 1: seen to try and figure out what happened on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Jimmy is seen on Grand Sutton surveillance footage leaving the
Speaker 1: property in his father's Mercedes Benz. Police entered license plate
Speaker 1: number into a search on NYPD's traffic and street cameras,
Speaker 1: and boom, they were able to follow Jimmy's movements from
Speaker 1: Grand Sutton down f D hour Drive, then south around
Speaker 1: southern Manhattan, then jumped into the Holland Tunnel that would
Speaker 1: spit him out somewhere in New Jersey. After the car
Speaker 1: goes into the Holland Tunnel, they lose it, but this
Speaker 1: was still an amazing lead. They just cad, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: They just needed someone to crack, and then someone was Larry.
Speaker 1: It was obvious to investigators that Larry was anxious. He
Speaker 1: agreed to come to them later that week, and the
Speaker 1: police just felt like he wanted to tell them something.
Speaker 1: Police told Larry, hey, we've got a missing kid here
Speaker 1: and his family's really worried. Anything at all that you
Speaker 1: can remember is helpful. That was enough for Larry, and
Speaker 1: he started telling the story of what happened that night.
Speaker 1: From the top. Larry said that once the group got
Speaker 1: back to Jimmy's apartment, everything was fun. At first. Larry
Speaker 1: talked about how he and Jimmy had a competition to
Speaker 1: see who could give the best lap dance everyone was drinking,
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes, and doing various amounts of cocaine. All this
Speaker 1: was corroborated by video evidence that one of the girls
Speaker 1: had taken on her phone from that night. It wasn't
Speaker 1: until after the girl's left at around six forty five
Speaker 1: am on Sunday morning that things went south. According to Larry,
Speaker 1: once he and Joey got back inside Jimmy's apartment, they
Speaker 1: started getting into a disagreement. Larry said that Joey said
Speaker 1: something along the lines of how Jimmy got the coke,
Speaker 1: he brought cigarettes and Larry brought nothing to the party.
Speaker 1: Larry recalled that Joey was actually pissed and that he
Speaker 1: had slammed his hand down on the coffee table when
Speaker 1: he said the comment. Larry snapped and immediately tackled Joey
Speaker 1: to the ground in Jimmy's living room, Larry said that
Speaker 1: he was on top of Joey and he was just swinging.
Speaker 1: Larry said that Jimmy was an avid boxer, the pair
Speaker 1: often boxed together, and that he jumped in with Larry.
Speaker 1: The beating turned fatal as both Larry and Jimmy continued
Speaker 1: to beat Joey even though he was unconscious and gurgling
Speaker 1: on the floor. According to Larry, Gemma was asleep on
Speaker 1: the couch the entire time. Once Gemma woke up and
Speaker 1: saw Larry and Jimmy beating Joey's lifeless body, Larry told
Speaker 1: police that he instructed Gemma to leave immediately and tell
Speaker 1: no one. Apparently, Gemma waking up terrified him, and Larry
Speaker 1: was now scared of the situation they were in. Gemma
Speaker 1: did leave, but things only got worse from there. Larry
Speaker 1: said that Jimmy then started stabbing Joey's lifeless body. After
Speaker 1: stabbing Joey to death, Jimmy apparently dragged Joey's body into
Speaker 1: the bathroom and into the tub. What Jimmy attempted next
Speaker 1: was just absolutely horrible. Larry told police that Jimmy then
Speaker 1: attempted to dismember Joey's body. Now, if you know anything
Speaker 1: about true crime, you may know that dismemberment is not easy.
Speaker 1: Jimmy tried to use a serrated knife for this, which
Speaker 1: is basically a kitchen knife. Realizing that their plan was shit,
Speaker 1: Larry and Jimmy started to frantically clean apartment. They used
Speaker 1: bleach on most of the apartment to mop up Joey's blood.
Speaker 1: When they're cleaning up, some of Joey's family and friends
Speaker 1: had gotten Larry's number and they were calling him to
Speaker 1: ask the last time he saw Joey. He was literally
Speaker 1: lying to them, even to Joey's father, while Joey's dead
Speaker 1: body sat in the room next to him. Naturally, Larry
Speaker 1: and Jimmy got hungry during the clean up period and
Speaker 1: had food delivered to the residents on Monday. I don't
Speaker 1: know what about killing someone and mopping up makes hungry.
Speaker 2: But okay, oh my gosh, let's door dash. Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: just I don't know that thing either.
Speaker 1: I know. Now that Jimmy had failed at dismembering Joey's body,
Speaker 1: the men had to come up with another idea to
Speaker 1: get him out of the building. Grand Sutton security footage
Speaker 1: shows them going into the basement of the building to
Speaker 1: see if there were any exits they could use down there.
Speaker 1: Since there were none, they had to come up with
Speaker 1: another plan. Night was now approaching, so Jimmy and Larry
Speaker 1: had an advantage with the darkness. At this point, the
Speaker 1: men had wrapped Joey's body in a comforter and Larry
Speaker 1: brought it to the ledge of a window in the apartment.
Speaker 1: While Larry moved Joey, Jimmy went down and moved his
Speaker 1: Mercedes buns that Jeffrey gave him into a position under
Speaker 1: the window. Once Jimmy gave Larry the sign, Larry pushed
Speaker 1: Joey's body out of the window and down the four
Speaker 1: floors to the bushes and pavement outside. Hidden in the
Speaker 1: darkness of night, Larry and Jimmy stuffed Joy's body into
Speaker 1: the trunk of the car and took off. They drove
Speaker 1: about sixty miles outside of Manhattan to Oceanport, New Jersey,
Speaker 1: where Larry is from, and found a wooded area near
Speaker 1: a flower shop. There, they dug a hole and dumped
Speaker 1: Joy's body inside it before attempting to cover him up
Speaker 1: with dirt, And actually before covering Joey with dirt, Jimmy
Speaker 1: took a gasoline can and covered Joey's body, attempting to
Speaker 1: light him on fire. So that was Larry's account of
Speaker 1: what happened on Saturday night into Sunday morning. After he
Speaker 1: made this confession, police raced to Oceanport and found Joey's
Speaker 1: body in a wooded area near a local flower shop
Speaker 1: in a shallow hole, just like Larry had said. Detective Castro,
Speaker 1: the officer that Patsy talked to back in New York City,
Speaker 1: went straight to the Kammanali residents to deliver the heartbreaking news.
Speaker 1: When Patsy heard Detective Castro's door shut in their driveway,
Speaker 1: he just knew. The autopsy report revealed that it was
Speaker 1: a brutal attack. Joey suffered over fourteen stab wounds to
Speaker 1: his chest, as well as multiple abrasions on his face.
Speaker 1: Although Larry and Jimmy had beaten Joey to a pulp,
Speaker 1: it was the stab wounds that killed them. Yeah. Terrible.
Speaker 1: Also on his body were wounds that were consistent with
Speaker 1: the attempted dismemberment. One of the wounds on his right
Speaker 1: arm went all the way down to the bone. Joey
Speaker 1: suffered homorrhaging in his face around his nose, eyes, and forehead.
Speaker 1: His nose was broken, and he had several fractures to
Speaker 1: his skull along with broken ribs. Later in court, Jimmy
Speaker 1: would also confess that he slit Joey's throat. As you
Speaker 1: can imagine, James Rackover and Lawrence Deloney were arrested and
Speaker 1: charged with second degree murder. That's Jimmy and Larry. Max
Speaker 1: Gemma was also arrested, but not for murder. Max Gemma
Speaker 1: was arrested for hindering prosecution and tampering with physical evidence.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey rackover Jimmy's quote unquote feather, was also the star
Speaker 1: of a lawsuit filed by Patsy that he actually helped
Speaker 1: in the cover up. Surveillance footage from the Grand Sutton
Speaker 1: shows Jeffrey going down to Jimmy's apartment on Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: and he brought paper, towel rolls and other cleaning supplies
Speaker 1: with him. And for context, Jeffrey lived in one of
Speaker 1: the punhouses at the Grand Sutton and Jimmy lived on
Speaker 1: the fourth floor. Patsy made it clear that this lawsuit
Speaker 1: was not about the money. Patsy had actually just sold
Speaker 1: his security company for two hundred and forty million, so
Speaker 1: he didn't need the money. No, this was about justice
Speaker 1: for his son. It's nearly impossible online to find out
Speaker 1: if Jeffrey was found guilty in that lawsuit, but Jimmy, Larry,
Speaker 1: and Max Gumma were all convicted. Jimmy was convicted of
Speaker 1: murder and sentenced to twenty eight and two thirds years
Speaker 1: in prison. Larry was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to
Speaker 1: twenty three years. Max Gumma was the last to see
Speaker 1: his dan court and he was sentenced to only six
Speaker 1: months in jail for his involvement in the murder. He
Speaker 1: served only four months and was released after that. This
Speaker 1: murder showcased the dark side of social life in New
Speaker 1: York City. What Joey's family will never have is actual answers.
Speaker 1: It seems that their son brother if you and friend,
Speaker 1: was just with the wrong crowd at the wrong time.
Speaker 1: And that's fun story, heartbreaking, it really is.
Speaker 2: It truly is the perfect example of wrong place, wrong time,
Speaker 2: wrong people.
Speaker 1: You just need to buy yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess maybe because I'm not maybe it's different
Speaker 2: for men. I'm not trying to say, like a woman
Speaker 2: can't just go in and seems like it's just not
Speaker 2: a good idea to go alone to someone's apartment without
Speaker 2: a friend somebody.
Speaker 1: Right, I know. And he didn't even have his phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's now he's twenty sixteen, so everyone's using
Speaker 2: their phones.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty important. But I don't even think
Speaker 2: I could leave, I'd be like hold on, hold on
Speaker 2: back half my phone.
Speaker 1: I think I can't be like wait.
Speaker 2: But you know, when a party's happening, you know you're
Speaker 2: not thinking this.
Speaker 1: You're young, and you know when you're young too, you
Speaker 1: think you're invincible. And how exciting New York King.
Speaker 2: We're going to an apartment party now in the Upper
Speaker 2: East Side, and this beautiful place I'm going.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything bad's gonna happen to you where
Speaker 1: all the rich people live, right right. I mean seriously,
Speaker 1: you know, you think only bad things happen, and you know,
Speaker 1: the ghetto or something, but it happens everywhere everywhere. You
Speaker 1: think you're safe, but you're not.
Speaker 2: And oh, that was such a good story. I had
Speaker 2: know how it's very heartbreaking, truly too for his parents.
Speaker 2: And there is like that rich family culture and Italian
Speaker 2: families as you know, so that's just oh.
Speaker 1: I know they were I saw a news story where
Speaker 1: it was after one of the convictions where Patsy and
Speaker 1: Joy's mom are interviewed in the hallway. It's just they're
Speaker 1: and they're just talking about like how close their family
Speaker 1: is and how heartbreaking it is. And I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of obviously murder victims out there who have
Speaker 1: close family, but it's just so painful to actually see
Speaker 1: parents going through it.
Speaker 2: And thank God for his dad Patsy for just on
Speaker 2: it going. We're gonna go to the city and we're
Speaker 2: gonna and then just knowing you find this, I mean,
Speaker 2: talk about synchronicity and timing.
Speaker 1: It's yes, some garbage trucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, that was like absolutely because that
Speaker 2: would be something that would happen. It's going and it's
Speaker 2: New York, so goodbye, you'll never find it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll never find it once it gets to the dump.
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. Oh my goodness, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That was so good, such a good story. You're welcome,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, my heart goes out the toy
Speaker 1: Manali family, so most certainly anyway, Well, thank you all
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