Speaker 1: Oh that's are.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy, and my name's Jonathan, I'm Jacob, and I'm
Speaker 2: fully ready for the smoke tonight, baby. Anybody that wants
Speaker 2: to bring that, I'm just kidding. I'm here. I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm trying to talk to y'all and just express my
Speaker 2: point of view. Some people don't like that. Some people
Speaker 2: get a little upset about that. And I do want
Speaker 2: to make it abundantly clear that my entire the past
Speaker 2: two episodes, the one the biblical flood story and the
Speaker 2: Nepheluin story, it wasn't to try and say that every
Speaker 2: single one of your beliefs is wrong. These are these
Speaker 2: are old, These are o T stories, dude, oh t shit.
Speaker 2: This is before.
Speaker 3: Jesus by thousands of years.
Speaker 4: But it does need to go and be mentioned that
Speaker 4: most believers of the Bible, the Torah, and the Quran,
Speaker 4: so we are talking about well over half of the
Speaker 4: human population of Earth, believes these stories to be hard
Speaker 4: and factual things. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's that's totally fine. That's okay. I'm
Speaker 2: just I like to because and this is the weird
Speaker 2: part about the Bible and all the different translations and
Speaker 2: the translations of the translations of the translations. It's like
Speaker 2: some people meant something, some people meant another thing. And
Speaker 2: and as a matter of fact, I was just looking
Speaker 2: something up earlier in regards to that whole sons of
Speaker 2: God thing, right, because I was like, surely it didn't
Speaker 2: always mean everybody, no way, it didn't always be understood
Speaker 2: as these were angels.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: No. Language traversus time and does get you know, changed
Speaker 4: depending on context. So depending on which book of the
Speaker 4: Bible you're reading, it could be referring to sons of
Speaker 4: God to mean angels. It could be sons of God
Speaker 4: as in like Jesus was a son of God, the
Speaker 4: son of God, and then later on in the New
Speaker 4: Testament when it calls us to be sons of God.
Speaker 4: Depending on which book and which timeframe that that was
Speaker 4: written in, depends on the context of what they mean.
Speaker 2: That's weird. Why just come up with another term?
Speaker 4: It's because language changes over time. We're talking about something
Speaker 4: that was written in two thousand BC as opposed to
Speaker 4: something that was written in one hundred and eighty. In
Speaker 4: two thousand years, certain words garner different meanings my boy.
Speaker 2: Okay, I do have a point that I want to make,
Speaker 2: but I want to get to the good cult members
Speaker 2: out there first. Nicholas, what's your thoughts, sir?
Speaker 6: Just one thing too.
Speaker 7: I think I may have mentioned in it a while
Speaker 7: back in the past, but the whole son of it's
Speaker 7: pretty interesting to think about whenever, like one of the
Speaker 7: meanings that it could have just means.
Speaker 6: It just means like like like like like if you're
Speaker 6: a son of man, it's like one who is like
Speaker 6: a man, but not like like a man, but slightly different,
Speaker 6: like not fully man or I don't.
Speaker 4: Know I've ever heard it use in this context, but
Speaker 4: I would be like getting interested to hear an example.
Speaker 7: Uh, well, like a son of a bitch, right, yes,
Speaker 7: you're you're like you're you're that you have the quality
Speaker 7: of that, but you're not actually.
Speaker 2: That like a bitch junior.
Speaker 8: Or or or a senior.
Speaker 3: Even Okay, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is that you know, and I've
Speaker 2: mentioned this before, but how we talk today is completely
Speaker 2: different than how people even talked in the eighties, in
Speaker 2: the nineties, in the exactly two thousands, everybody has talked differently,
Speaker 2: and everybody has had different meanings for words, whether it
Speaker 2: be slang or the meaning of the word just changes.
Speaker 2: Gay used to mean happy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and now, oh you gay. You're not assuming that I'm
Speaker 2: saying that you're happy.
Speaker 4: Right, And that's exactly my point, right, So, like think
Speaker 4: of the Christmas hymn.
Speaker 3: Don we now are gay a pair l falla?
Speaker 4: Uh uh okay? That part back then it meant your
Speaker 4: happy and joyous apparel, same word, same language today would
Speaker 4: mean you mean your rainbow flags and your g string.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. Why why did the word.
Speaker 4: Change context in only a course of one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty years, Because that's how language works.
Speaker 2: Bro well, and that is kind of my point is that,
Speaker 2: you know, before we get to that yogi, I'm happy
Speaker 2: you got your hand up, sir, I'm sure we're about
Speaker 2: to hear it from you. I love you though.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, So I'm actually going to try to not
Speaker 8: go off onto a bunch of tangents. However, I just
Speaker 8: wanted to pull up a couple of commentaries from these
Speaker 8: verses that we're speaking about, since, as you know, context
Speaker 8: is everything, and you guys are speaking in my side
Speaker 8: of the book.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so they are speaking from the Torah. So
Speaker 4: if anybody would speak with a little bit more in
Speaker 4: depth original knowledge on this, it would be our resident
Speaker 4: Jewish correspondence. So I'm excited to hear what kind of
Speaker 4: retorts you have, because I'm sure that I got a
Speaker 4: few things wrong in my rebuttals to Jonathan.
Speaker 3: So by all means, brother have had it okay.
Speaker 8: So for now I will just speak about the whole
Speaker 8: the sons of Elohem. So there are two different commentaries
Speaker 8: that I'm going to bring. One of them is from Rashi,
Speaker 8: who was ablie from the twelve century, and then another
Speaker 8: person who is called the Ebinezra. I don't remember what
Speaker 8: time frame he's from anyway. So Rashi's commentary says, thus
Speaker 8: the sons of the princes of rulers. Another explanation of
Speaker 8: the Bene Elohim is that these were princely angels who
Speaker 8: came as messengers from God. They too intermingled with them.
Speaker 9: I e.
Speaker 8: The daughters of Man. And then it says, however, wherever
Speaker 8: the word Elohim occurs in scriptures, it signifies authority, and
Speaker 8: the following pages passages proves this, as says thou shalt
Speaker 8: be his master Elohim, which is an exodus. And I
Speaker 8: see I have made Elohim a master's So it's not
Speaker 8: always referring to an angel. It can be hit or
Speaker 8: misdepends on context. So then with the Ebenezra, what he
Speaker 8: says is that the term of bene Eloheim refers to
Speaker 8: the judges who dispense God's Elohim's justice. Others say that
Speaker 8: he refers to God himself. And these sons of God
Speaker 8: are the holy ones or the saints living on earth.
Speaker 8: That's obviously very probably not. And then further it says
Speaker 8: they are called the sons of God in the sense
Speaker 8: of ye are the children of the Lord or God.
Speaker 8: Others say that the sons of God refer to the
Speaker 8: children of Seth, that the daughters of men refers to
Speaker 8: the women of Kine's family. However, it appears to me
Speaker 8: that these sons of God refers to those who know
Speaker 8: the will of the Most High. These men chose women
Speaker 8: who match them astrologically and physically. Hence they produced mighty men.
Speaker 8: And it is possible that they took women even against
Speaker 8: their will.
Speaker 2: So you're trying to tell me that Nephilim being giants
Speaker 2: could in fact be fake and gay at like at
Speaker 2: least a percentage.
Speaker 8: I'm saying that the Nephilim can be.
Speaker 10: Giants can also not be right, can be So it
Speaker 10: depends on contects they're so as you know, to juds
Speaker 10: your opinions.
Speaker 8: So there are different schools of thoughts. So there's one
Speaker 8: school of thought that says that this has to do
Speaker 8: with giants. There are other ones that have to do
Speaker 8: with with fallen angels. So for example, so going on further,
Speaker 8: it says the Nephelin specifically, so these were called Nefhlin
Speaker 8: because they fell and they caused the downfall of the world.
Speaker 8: It says also in Hebrew the giants are usually called
Speaker 8: the Anachem, and that however in those days when it
Speaker 8: says in the in the forests, these days where the
Speaker 8: generations of Anush and the sons of Cain.
Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting. I was actually I did a little
Speaker 2: research because I was like, surely sons of God has
Speaker 2: to be a pretty open kind of term, because it's
Speaker 2: it's kind of mentioned in different context, right, And and
Speaker 2: I get why some people would be upset that I
Speaker 2: was saying that the idea that Nephalum had to have
Speaker 2: been just man, like, just regular man, because it was
Speaker 2: literally I mean, we all have jacobed. Especially it gets
Speaker 2: bricked up over context, the context of that whole. Even
Speaker 2: nephelum fragment of a sentence is nestled in between two
Speaker 2: sentences where God is condemning man, and so mathematically it
Speaker 2: didn't make any sense. And so I was looking at it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, uh, when we're talking
Speaker 2: about sons of God, like what are we really talking about?
Speaker 2: And I found a little something. So it says in
Speaker 2: the Second Temple period roughly five hundred BC to seven
Speaker 2: hundred CE seventy seventy.
Speaker 4: Sorry, the Second Temple was burned down in seventy C.
Speaker 4: That's why.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Jewish writers almost universally read or read sons of
Speaker 2: God as heavenly beings or angels during that time. That's
Speaker 2: what they understood it as this. And then it mentions
Speaker 2: about how it also is referred to in First Enoch,
Speaker 2: which nobody that's a fictional story. And then you have
Speaker 2: the Septuagint also renders the phrase as angels of God
Speaker 2: in some manuscripts, and and then later on, which is
Speaker 2: pretty interesting you have the especially for you, my dude,
Speaker 2: Fuck Royce. I couldn't think of your name because I
Speaker 2: read rabbi and I was like, it's not a rabbi.
Speaker 2: I'm tripping the jew bru, the bear jew jewel, but
Speaker 2: it and then I found out that there there were
Speaker 2: later Jewish and uh a Rabbidic view referring to the
Speaker 2: sons of God as human nobles or judges. So by
Speaker 2: the Rabbitic era post seventy a d. Many rabbis grew
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with the idea of angels having sex with humans.
Speaker 2: It clashed with later theology about angelic nature. They reinterpreted
Speaker 2: sons of God to mean powerful men, prince's nobles, or
Speaker 2: even of Seth as you kind of had talked about, right.
Speaker 4: And that's what he's saying. The scholar from twelve hundred
Speaker 4: AD was saying these types of things, and that checks out, right.
Speaker 2: But then later on and we're talking about I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that the Tora was around a lot longer
Speaker 2: than this, but when it was written, the Tora was changed.
Speaker 4: Not the interpretation of the usage of the word sons
Speaker 4: of God, but when the tour was written, it was
Speaker 4: clearly understood that that was the definition that they were
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 2: So the idea that the line of Seth, the line
Speaker 2: of like the hereditary line of Seth, intering with the
Speaker 2: line of Cain. So you would have Seth being Adam's
Speaker 2: righteous son intermarrying with the line of Cain, which is
Speaker 2: the daughters of men. This became the dominant view in
Speaker 2: the medieval Jewish commentary. So that's what at least right here,
Speaker 2: that's what they were talking about.
Speaker 3: Medieval, not originally exactly.
Speaker 2: But why would they change the original intent?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 4: Why? Indeed, why do you have some people that believe
Speaker 4: that Jesus would have been a devout democrat and others
Speaker 4: that believe he would have been a devout republican instead
Speaker 4: of just reading the words for what they are.
Speaker 2: Why indeed, so you have Augustine around the fourth and
Speaker 2: fifth century strongly objected it and popularized the Sons of
Speaker 2: God equaling Seth's descendants reading, which the Seth's descendants reading,
Speaker 2: which shaped Catholic and later Protestant thought. So today, it says,
Speaker 2: many mainstream Christian denominations repeat Augustine's view, while more literalist
Speaker 2: or fringe groups returned to the angelic interpretation. So I'm
Speaker 2: not even in the minority in saying this, according to.
Speaker 4: But to say that literalists are on the fringe, I
Speaker 4: think is a bit of a misnomer. I think that
Speaker 4: there's a pretty solid fifty to fifty split between at
Speaker 4: least in the Christian realm. And I'm not speaking on
Speaker 4: all denominations here, but there's a pretty solid split of
Speaker 4: people that believe that it happened literally as it's written,
Speaker 4: and there are those that take it as a metaphorical
Speaker 4: story as it is written. I think that's about a
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty split. Now, Augustine or Augustine have her
Speaker 4: pronunciations of his name. Both ways.
Speaker 8: He was a.
Speaker 4: Bastion of early Christian theology, right, and he didn't start
Speaker 4: off as a Christian. He converted when he was in
Speaker 4: his I want to say, late twenties, early thirties, but
Speaker 4: he started out as a Neoplatonist. Actually, he was very
Speaker 4: very well versed in the art of rhetoric and philosophies
Speaker 4: from even Greeks and Roman sort like the dude was.
Speaker 4: It had been around the block of time or two, right,
Speaker 4: But I'm not saying that he is like the apostle Paul,
Speaker 4: who got the divine word from the source himself. He
Speaker 4: was getting it, and this was his interpretations thereof, and
Speaker 4: he wrote tons of books about what he believed on
Speaker 4: these things. Some things are seen to be good sources
Speaker 4: of him information. Some a lot of people disagree with.
Speaker 4: He wasn't a one accurate all the time kind of guy.
Speaker 4: I think more often than not he was. But there
Speaker 4: are still people that are going to debate and disagree
Speaker 4: with Augustine on all kinds of shit.
Speaker 2: Royce, I do want to get your opinion on, since
Speaker 2: you are the resident Jew, what is your opinion of
Speaker 2: the biblical flood and Noah's ark? Is that? Do you
Speaker 2: interpret that literally?
Speaker 8: I am a horrendous one to ask, because I believe
Speaker 8: the toy is one percent truth from God, and what
Speaker 8: it says is what it says.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's so.
Speaker 4: I I so.
Speaker 8: Even archaeological proof aside, I don't necessarily need that. So
Speaker 8: even with some of the examples you were giving earlier,
Speaker 8: as far as the interbreeding or just the so the whole,
Speaker 8: the whole idea of Noah's ark is that the whole
Speaker 8: thing is a miracle. From the size of the arc
Speaker 8: being able to contain all of the animals, to the
Speaker 8: feeding and cleaning up after them, and the repopulation of
Speaker 8: the world along with the animals, all of that I
Speaker 8: could consider a miracle. So I don't necessarily so, yes,
Speaker 8: with the laws of nature that we have right now,
Speaker 8: the way that God has the world running now, yes, one,
Speaker 8: it would not work quote unquote now like it did
Speaker 8: back then. But if once you add a supernatural being
Speaker 8: who can do absolutely everything, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily need more than that. So I'm a
Speaker 8: bad one to ask.
Speaker 2: Very well, that's fair.
Speaker 4: Wait, you said you also had a couple of notes
Speaker 4: off of that episode. What other sticks did you have
Speaker 4: that you would like to pull out of the mud and.
Speaker 8: Talk about so unlike last time, actually to make a
Speaker 8: list of all of them. Ok, it was just I'm
Speaker 8: just looking through, just go through some of these notes
Speaker 8: that I have. So the Nephilims is the ie the
Speaker 8: fallen ones, so the Anakin who are descendants of Chemazi
Speaker 8: and Aziel who fell from heaven in the generations of
Speaker 8: n Osh And then oh yeah, you were talking about
Speaker 8: all the whole grasshoppers being in their houses. We heard
Speaker 8: them say these are antinavinas look like human beings. And
Speaker 8: then I went to a different candent. So that's about
Speaker 8: all that I have. Next time I will do a
Speaker 8: better job of making notes of exactly what. But I mean,
Speaker 8: that's the main thing is. There are different schools of
Speaker 8: thought on worthy nephilim oh angels, are fallen angels, are
Speaker 8: their descendants of? Or were they people? There seem to
Speaker 8: be groups that can say one or the other. Also
Speaker 8: the name, so you guys are saying, it's like, I mean, right,
Speaker 8: and so was a giant And we have a fun
Speaker 8: tradition from the Metris that he actually survived the flood
Speaker 8: by hanging off of Noah's ark. That's how large Oge was.
Speaker 4: I have never heard that before, but that's from from
Speaker 4: the source and even from the Torah and by when
Speaker 4: I count the Old Testament, it says that he was
Speaker 4: the last of the descendants of the was it the Anachem.
Speaker 8: Or the refine the the probably the.
Speaker 4: The Anakem excuse me, which was a descendant line of
Speaker 4: Nephelim giants.
Speaker 2: So he was considered a good Nephilm or a baddie.
Speaker 8: Bad so he so okay, both originally so he actually
Speaker 8: so there was also another measures that he actually helped
Speaker 8: uh no, or he helped someone before that point, which
Speaker 8: is how he had the merit to be saved by
Speaker 8: hanging off the arc while no one else could. However,
Speaker 8: further on in the Torah, he was a king of Bashan,
Speaker 8: and the way that he also he didn't like the
Speaker 8: children of Israel. So he actually, according to the belief
Speaker 8: the Madras, he actually picked up a mountain to throw
Speaker 8: on the children of Israel, and God caused the ants
Speaker 8: to burrow by his hands. It went down on his neck,
Speaker 8: his tusks grew, and he was killed.
Speaker 4: I've never heard this story before, but okay, interesting, All right,
Speaker 4: well you know what, Royce, We're probably going to.
Speaker 2: Be referring back to you here a couple of times.
Speaker 8: Meurger I will, I will be on FAMBI.
Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you, sir, spirit animal, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 11: I was just gonna mention about, uh so, the Natholemic
Speaker 11: bloodline quote unquote vib talked about even past. Uh well,
Speaker 11: it's still in Genesis and everything, and it's even referenced
Speaker 11: in Exodus. I want to say, when Moses is talk
Speaker 11: taking them to the Promised Land, which Moses never got.
Speaker 11: He got to see it, but he never got a
Speaker 11: step foot into the Palmised land. Also, Uh married into
Speaker 11: uh A, into the Nephilamic blood line. And it's funny,
Speaker 11: uh if you each time that there's a set of
Speaker 11: twins in the that blood line, the older twin or
Speaker 11: the whether it's the older twin, or say the serpent seed,
Speaker 11: or however you want to put which they Sayau might
Speaker 11: have been the separate seed because Isaac were they swapped.
Speaker 12: Isaac clutched his heel and boosed his head.
Speaker 11: About.
Speaker 3: Wrote a whole book about Esau and that blood line.
Speaker 11: Yes, Uh, he goes into the he married, he enters
Speaker 11: marries into the Nephilimic blood line. And it's also uh
Speaker 11: uh they are so say that Ishmael probably did that too.
Speaker 12: It that's a theory, Kane.
Speaker 11: He said when he left uh the when he left
Speaker 11: uh when he went east to Eatam and everything and
Speaker 11: built up the city of Enoch. It said that he married.
Speaker 11: He did not want to go because he said the
Speaker 11: others will kill him. And then God gave him the
Speaker 11: course or whoever shall kill you today shall be a
Speaker 11: sevenfold And when the met killed his grandfather, his grandfather Caine.
Speaker 11: He not only did he kill his grandfather, killed his
Speaker 11: son and he said, whoever, well, what I did? That
Speaker 11: the coach shall be seven times seventy. But it's uh
Speaker 11: that end. Kane was talked about how he had the
Speaker 11: horns and everything, so I could definitely see that he
Speaker 11: did take on the character when he was curse. He
Speaker 11: did take on characteristics of the Nephilim because he also
Speaker 11: married into the Netflim blood line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I haven't worrid about Kane with the horns,
Speaker 4: but I do know that he got the mark to
Speaker 4: signify that that was his thing. Some believe it looked
Speaker 4: like a crazy birthmark on his face. I've heard some
Speaker 4: say it was horns. I've said heard some say it
Speaker 4: there's a kind of a ton of you know.
Speaker 11: The reason why I say that he that it's alluded
Speaker 11: to him having horns or antlers is because a la
Speaker 11: Mac was a hunter but he was getting blind and
Speaker 11: his son.
Speaker 12: Said, there's there's.
Speaker 11: The game, so he lets he notches the arrow, lets loose,
Speaker 11: let's level fly and it pierces Cane and and when
Speaker 11: he see what he has done, because they did mistake him,
Speaker 11: for a wild animal. Also, I don't know if y'all
Speaker 11: know anything about the Sukuloop, which is the Cherokee lord
Speaker 11: of the wild who ended up turning visible. He is
Speaker 11: described as a hairy bean just like he saw but
Speaker 11: he is his name louis uh.
Speaker 12: His name Loui means to he who has them sloping.
Speaker 12: His eyes are slanted.
Speaker 4: I did not know that, shore dude.
Speaker 2: All right, look, we got to get to the chat
Speaker 2: because I don't want to get too far behind. Rose said,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 2: Gary? Wayne said, even all so, Gary, Gary, White Boy
Speaker 2: Wizard said what up? Motherfuckers? Your brother Anthony said what up?
Speaker 2: Fellas and folks?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 2: Anthony Zombie said, heiry everyone at midnight? Cong said hello,
Speaker 2: fam love it yo. Gid said, how did I know
Speaker 2: that this was going to be the topic tonight at
Speaker 2: least the beginning? Anyway, Yo?
Speaker 4: You know it?
Speaker 13: Bro?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The dumb for dumb Furry aka Skunky said, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: he him. Let's just go on to Tony said, I
Speaker 2: love the nefflum fake and gay episode. Jay refers to
Speaker 2: the yah Weist source, and E refers to the Yelloist source.
Speaker 2: In the one section you cited, it is a way
Speaker 2: to spec on the authorship of the ot no man,
Speaker 2: no doubt, Zombie said, look up some good TED talks
Speaker 2: on language and how things change from uh, from each
Speaker 2: person and transverse time. It's a good study languages, dude.
Speaker 2: It's constantly evolving all the time, not always. And I
Speaker 2: don't mean evolving like constantly getting better, because it's definitely not.
Speaker 3: It's never set in stone though, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, White Boy Wizard said, Yay, more Bible talk. Sorry,
Speaker 2: trying not to, but you know, I just got on one,
Speaker 2: Zombie said, seriously my thoughts. I want to talk about
Speaker 2: all the shit that's happening globally or flat earthly got
Speaker 2: a fail earth Renee said, agreed, I was looking forward
Speaker 2: to current events. Also, White what Wizard said, feels like
Speaker 2: every fucking show I listened to has been hard on
Speaker 2: it lately. Fake Rapture didn't help. Oh yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 2: I had to cover that one.
Speaker 4: You know, Fake Rapture absolutely had to be talked about.
Speaker 4: That was ridiculous. But yeah, I agree, And we talked
Speaker 4: about this too. Jonathan and I like certain episodes because
Speaker 4: on a conspiratorial platform, you're gonna end up talking about
Speaker 4: the global Satanic cabal that is running the world and
Speaker 4: trying to enslave the human population like that. That comes
Speaker 4: up in a lot of different topics eventually, Right, And
Speaker 4: if you're gonna talk about a giant Satanic cabal, then
Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking about the side of dark, and
Speaker 4: then we're going to be talking about the side of
Speaker 4: light as the opposition too, Right, And this is just
Speaker 4: kind of how it goes through any chain of events
Speaker 4: you want to. Yeah, you don't have to bring up
Speaker 4: religion like that. We absolutely could do this entire show
Speaker 4: and never bring up religion again. However, it's kind of
Speaker 4: hard to separate the two when it comes to certain topics.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at the amount of guess that we've
Speaker 4: had on that use religion, and not just Christianity, not
Speaker 4: just Judaism, not any of that. Hell, we had we
Speaker 4: recently just had on a dude that sacrifices chickens to demons, like, let's.
Speaker 2: Be very straight up, and angels, by the way.
Speaker 4: I disagree with that, but beside the p okay. So
Speaker 4: my point is we bring on people from all different
Speaker 4: walks of life, with all different kinds of opinions and
Speaker 4: views to have these types of in depth talks right now,
Speaker 4: that being said, we are not a religion program. Religion
Speaker 4: does get talked about from time to time, but I mean,
Speaker 4: it's not something that we need to spend the entirety
Speaker 4: of our careers debunking and confirming in all these things. Right,
Speaker 4: Neither of us are religious scholars by any means. I
Speaker 4: would like to think that I am, but I also
Speaker 4: am nowhere near anything near this level. So I mean,
Speaker 4: it is what it is.
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Speaker 2: going to invite demons into your life, you probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: listen to it, you know, Like it's all dependent on
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Speaker 2: in the first place. Like, literally, we put out five
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Speaker 2: don't like the title of something, what makes you think
Speaker 2: that you're going to light the like the entire episode itself?
Speaker 2: I just feel like you, like, why would you openly
Speaker 2: want to listen to something that's going to piss you
Speaker 2: off and cause you to ruin your own day.
Speaker 4: I'm just happy that you're catching some smoke on this
Speaker 4: one because I caught all the shit for the Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk episode. It's it's kind of cool to see the
Speaker 4: opposite come through to fruition on this one.
Speaker 2: No, but I actually love the smoke, Like it doesn't
Speaker 2: bother me. It's not going to change me. It's not
Speaker 2: going to change how I operate. I mean, I can
Speaker 2: appreciate other people opinions, and by no means, as I said,
Speaker 2: it's not me trying to say that like your religion
Speaker 2: is stupid. I'm saying the way that people commonly understand
Speaker 2: things could be distorted. That's all I was trying to say.
Speaker 4: And I hear that. I'm saying that there's been thousands
Speaker 4: of years worth of scholarship to say that it's one way.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that we are going to be changing
Speaker 4: anybody's minds on this show. Now that being said, I
Speaker 4: caught so much shit for my take on the Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk episode, at least on the first one that we shot,
Speaker 4: where it was what it was right, And now so
Speaker 4: many more things have come out to show that like
Speaker 4: Israel kind of didn't have any kind of a hand
Speaker 4: in it, or if they did, there's no way that
Speaker 4: any of us are going to find out anything about it.
Speaker 4: Like it's just not it's way more likely that this
Speaker 4: was an inside job. And there is more and by
Speaker 4: inside I mean US agencies acting on behalf of the US.
Speaker 4: And there is more evidence now to show that the
Speaker 4: FBI had more involvement and more prior warning that it
Speaker 4: was going to take place, but than anything. So again,
Speaker 4: and I'm still on that point. I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: there was no foreign agent. I'm saying that I can't
Speaker 4: find any evidence of a foreign agent. But more things
Speaker 4: are coming out by the day.
Speaker 2: But it's in like a hitman type of job. May
Speaker 2: I think it was like maybe a foreign agent reached
Speaker 2: out to a not so foreign you know, United States
Speaker 2: agent and decided to say, hey, you know, I donate
Speaker 2: a lot of money to you. I need you to
Speaker 2: take care of this problem. And done internally. There's no
Speaker 2: record of the actual the person that paid off the
Speaker 2: hit man in the first place. You can't throw it out.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm not throwing it out at all.
Speaker 4: But what I am saying is that like, for instance,
Speaker 4: and this kills me, dude, for all the shit for
Speaker 4: the people that are like a pack is running the nation. Okay,
Speaker 4: not saying that they don't have a hand in it.
Speaker 4: Has anybody looked at what the fucking Katari delegation, the
Speaker 4: Katari lobbyists are doing right now in America just throwing
Speaker 4: this out. Has anybody actually looked at the amount of
Speaker 4: money that Katar is throwing at our politicians right now?
Speaker 2: No, it's all the Jews, because that's oil money.
Speaker 3: That's beside the point.
Speaker 4: Katari money is funding DC by leaps and bounds more
Speaker 4: than Israeli money is right now and has been for
Speaker 4: a few years under the Obama administration, you know, a
Speaker 4: pac and Israel war running this shit. But people are
Speaker 4: gonna talk so much about APAC without even bringing up
Speaker 4: nor Pack, nor are they gonna bring up the differences
Speaker 4: between the two. And then they're gonna act like a
Speaker 4: Katari lobby doesn't even exist. And it's like, yes, okay, sure,
Speaker 4: it's always Israel's fault. And for me saying that I'm
Speaker 4: obviously an Israeli cook and I'm bought and all this
Speaker 4: and this, and it's like, no, dude, do a little
Speaker 4: more fucking research. It makes way more sense to me,
Speaker 4: just given the numbers and the stats and the figures,
Speaker 4: that maybe foreign money had something to do with it,
Speaker 4: And you're like talking about it, hit man job for sure,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I don't think your boy was Tyler or whatever.
Speaker 4: The fuck. I don't think he was the trigger poller.
Speaker 4: There's multiple reasons why I believe that. But the one
Speaker 4: who did pull the trigger. Could he have been a
Speaker 4: foreign agent?
Speaker 3: Possibly?
Speaker 4: Sure? But who paid him, followed the money trail, because
Speaker 4: if that's just the fact that he's just a trigger poller,
Speaker 4: he had no dog in this fight, He had no
Speaker 4: beef with Charlie or any political leanings one way or another.
Speaker 4: If he was just the gun, then let's talk about
Speaker 4: who hired the gun.
Speaker 3: So it makes.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get to that then, Like, all right, can
Speaker 2: you make a case for it being in house?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What's like? What would the reason be. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that I disagree with you. I just want to hear
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 3: So how could I put this?
Speaker 4: Would you at least think that Charlie was somebody who
Speaker 4: was a morally upright guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sure, okay? And would you believe it if I told
Speaker 4: you that he was somebody that you couldn't buy out
Speaker 4: because he had made his money from the ground up
Speaker 4: and he was about his morals, like he really talked
Speaker 4: the talk and walked the walk and left money on
Speaker 4: the table multiple times because they were going to try
Speaker 4: to change the way he did things, and he said no.
Speaker 2: Already proven whenever he had turned down money from NETANYAHUU. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: So this being said, is it possible that let's just
Speaker 4: call it the elite. I'm not putting a political party
Speaker 4: on this. I'm not putting a administration on this. I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like the actual ones that run the country, not the
Speaker 4: fucking president that's only in office for four years. I
Speaker 4: mean the actual deep state that's gonna be in office
Speaker 4: long after Trump. You know what I'm saying. Is it
Speaker 4: possible that they saw Charlie as a threat because he
Speaker 4: was somebody that was gaining popularity, was making people question narratives,
Speaker 4: was making young people think for themselves, and that's fucking
Speaker 4: dangerous for them, right, So they realized that they needed
Speaker 4: to do something drastic, and if a civil war kicks
Speaker 4: off out of it, then like, oh, you know, that's
Speaker 4: kind of a part of the plan anyway, so why not.
Speaker 4: And if it doesn't, then it finally silences a political
Speaker 4: talking head that is a problem for them, a real,
Speaker 4: actual thorn in the side of the deep state.
Speaker 2: Not the current administration coming after him. Do you think.
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Yes? Maybe no? I keep in mind Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden.
Speaker 4: These are figureheads, and yes, they can enact change in
Speaker 4: the time that they're in office. I'm not negating that
Speaker 4: executive orders are a thing for sure, but you've got
Speaker 4: to understand that. For instance, just throwing this out as
Speaker 4: an example, the head of the CIA, it's appointed by
Speaker 4: the president, right, cool, The dude that's directly under him.
Speaker 4: The actual person that's running the CIA and has been
Speaker 4: for the past twenty years, doesn't give a fuck who's
Speaker 4: in office because he's gonna be here after That president
Speaker 4: is a foregone conclusion and is out. Now, let's take
Speaker 4: that to all the three letter agencies. Let's take this
Speaker 4: to the military generals. Right, you gotta three star, four
Speaker 4: star general who has been in this position for years.
Speaker 4: They have been in the military for thirty plus years.
Speaker 4: This president is in office for four to eight years.
Speaker 4: When that dude is gone and America is still in
Speaker 4: the middle of a conflict, that general is still in
Speaker 4: his fucking position. You see what I'm saying. There's actual
Speaker 4: power and there's the face of power. I believe that
Speaker 4: the actual power saw Charlie as a threat.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, is there other than is it just
Speaker 2: a theory or are you backing it by like some something.
Speaker 4: As of this moment, it's only a theory. But again,
Speaker 4: more and more things come out every day.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying you kind of started it by saying that,
Speaker 2: like it's becoming more obvious and more evident that it
Speaker 2: could have been in like an inside job more.
Speaker 4: Because there is I've been doing a fair amount of
Speaker 4: digging into it, bro. I can find literally no foreign
Speaker 4: actor fingerprints on this.
Speaker 3: Usually there's a paper trail.
Speaker 4: Usually there's a contact that was made, Usually there's a
Speaker 4: falling out that happened with somebody that there's some kind
Speaker 4: of a red herring or at least some sort of
Speaker 4: a flag on the play.
Speaker 3: I can find none now, flag on the play.
Speaker 4: As far as the killing having some controversy around it,
Speaker 4: like the story doesn't add up, y'all, I'm with you
Speaker 4: one hundred percent on that. The story that they are
Speaker 4: telling us on the mainstream media makes no sense out loud.
Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the reason for his death, the
Speaker 4: story arc of it, right, the why not, the how,
Speaker 4: the why. There is no evidence whatsoever that this was
Speaker 4: foreign which leads me to believe that if it's not one,
Speaker 4: it must be the other.
Speaker 2: You're wrong. It can't be that there's no evidence whatsoever,
Speaker 2: because everything leading up to it would say otherwise. Explain
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk from Israel.
Speaker 4: No, he did not, dude, he said it. Okay, he
Speaker 4: said that he wasn't going to commit suicide, and yeah,
Speaker 4: he didn't like what Israel was doing. But again, how
Speaker 4: many of these text message threads and exchanges in all
Speaker 4: of these things have been doctored and falsified.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, then what can you believe? How
Speaker 2: do you know what you can believe?
Speaker 3: Are believe Charlie's words.
Speaker 4: Believe I can believe Charlie's words on the microphone that
Speaker 4: have not been doctored and have not been edited, and
Speaker 4: they are confirmed by multiple sources.
Speaker 2: His words on the microphone whenever he was talking to
Speaker 2: Megan what the fuck was her name?
Speaker 4: Megan Kelly?
Speaker 2: Megan Kelly, right, and she both her and him agreed
Speaker 2: that they they know that for some reason, they're not
Speaker 2: allowed to talk about Israel, which only makes them want
Speaker 2: to talk about them even more. Sure then and then yeah,
Speaker 2: well and then allegedly, if we are to believe his
Speaker 2: quote unquote good friend, best friend, close friend, whatever, that
Speaker 2: close friend said, Hey, you know he in his final
Speaker 2: days said that he was worried for his life because
Speaker 2: of Israel. Like that's what I'm trying to say, Like,
Speaker 2: how do we distinguish what's real and what's not if
Speaker 2: we can just if we're just only like picking what
Speaker 2: we want to be true.
Speaker 4: So two weeks prior to his death, when he was
Speaker 4: on the mic and said that Israel is not the
Speaker 4: bad guy here and anybody that wants to blame the
Speaker 4: Jews for all their problem, that is a lie straight
Speaker 4: from the pits of hell. That was two weeks prior,
Speaker 4: and that was him on the microphone saying that that
Speaker 4: wasn't a friend, that was recounting a story.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're not talking about Israel though, it's it's more
Speaker 2: of a Zionist situation. It's a net Yahoo situation.
Speaker 4: He's an ultra Zionist dude, who is nen Yahoo?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, yeah, we're gonna look at these things.
Speaker 4: There was other people he pissed off for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I can find no fingerprints anywhere to say that
Speaker 4: this was the case. Candie Owens has been losing her
Speaker 4: goddamn mind for a week and a half, two weeks now,
Speaker 4: trying to prove these points.
Speaker 2: Everybody, every single point.
Speaker 4: Right, no doubt, no doubt. And I at least have
Speaker 4: some respect for that right. Her friend was murdered publicly
Speaker 4: for the world. She feels some type of way about that. Yo,
Speaker 4: I get that you want to find the root cause
Speaker 4: of it. And find the guilty parties. I am with
Speaker 4: you one hundred percent on that. But then every single
Speaker 4: point that she brings up is from an anonymous source.
Speaker 4: I wish I could tell you, guys, but I just can't.
Speaker 4: And then she goes on talking about how she is
Speaker 4: getting looked at in a certain way, but then gives
Speaker 4: no evidence to substantiate any of the claims that she makes.
Speaker 4: Now she's talking about a Polish beehive cult is the
Speaker 4: ones who killed Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that one that came out.
Speaker 3: Two days ago.
Speaker 4: A beehive cult that from Poland that apparently were the
Speaker 4: guilty party in the Charlie Kirk assassination. And this clearly
Speaker 4: is shown because Utah is the beehive state, so obvious connections.
Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, Candace, Oh my sweet Candace, what
Speaker 4: is that?
Speaker 2: What like a literal bee killed him.
Speaker 4: They're saying, no, they're saying that people that worship bee hives.
Speaker 4: There's a cult following. There is a legitimate cult. But
Speaker 4: it's like you're you're you're drawing the You're throwing the
Speaker 4: farthest of hail Mary's out here at a wall to
Speaker 4: see if it sticks. Because nothing else you brought to
Speaker 4: the table has stuck, and it's it's kind of sad
Speaker 4: to watch her fall at this level.
Speaker 2: I'd be interested to hear why she thinks that.
Speaker 3: The episode is out there.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 4: I checked it out, and I hear what she's trying
Speaker 4: to say. Very off base, is all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: She's it's it's kind of sad to watch her crash
Speaker 4: out this hard.
Speaker 2: But you watch how you talk about Bee.
Speaker 4: Okay, she's bay to you, big dog. She is not
Speaker 4: bita me. I respect her and a lot of her
Speaker 4: journalistic instincts and a lot of the things that she
Speaker 4: has uncovered over the years. Like, I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: she is a complete bought and paid for this and
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to throw shit. I'm saying that I
Speaker 4: think this is all a part of her grieving process
Speaker 4: and she's doing everything she can to get the most
Speaker 4: views as possible while the iron is still hot.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, just going back to it
Speaker 2: real quick, who was it that made the explosive pagers.
Speaker 4: Oh, that was massade, no doubt, and that was against
Speaker 4: terrorists that are absolutely their enemies.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, only reason I bring that up. I mentioned
Speaker 2: it earlier. I don't know if y'all. Yeah, it hasn't
Speaker 2: even been edited, the one from earlier yet. But there
Speaker 2: has been some people Stu Peters amongst other people, suggesting
Speaker 2: that how Charlie Kirk died could have been because his
Speaker 2: lapel or lavalet, his little clip on microphone on his shirt,
Speaker 2: which it did look a little sketchy, you know, as
Speaker 2: as we were going through the frames whenever script keeper
Speaker 2: was showing it, it was like, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: that thing on his shirt? On his shirt that keeps
Speaker 2: on moving and moving and moving.
Speaker 4: And then you I remember even saying that that was
Speaker 4: a mic, and he said, no, it's not.
Speaker 3: But then the video we just talked about it was
Speaker 3: a mic, or at least.
Speaker 4: Looks like a mic.
Speaker 2: But it's strange, and I don't know, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: hard to rely on blurry video, especially something so zoomed
Speaker 2: in like that, but it definitely looks like it's I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say definitely, I could understand the argument that
Speaker 2: a bullet or an explosive came from the lavalay itself.
Speaker 4: If that was the case, you would have an equal
Speaker 4: and opposite reaction the microphone or the black spot on
Speaker 4: his shirt. Once the shot happens, goes towards it, goes
Speaker 4: across his chest, and goes up towards his neck. He
Speaker 4: goes towards the shot, not away from it. If that
Speaker 4: was a dirty mic that had a little you know,
Speaker 4: a little round in it, a little projectile in it
Speaker 4: or something like that or whatever, there would be an
Speaker 4: equal and opposite reaction. The mic would go away from
Speaker 4: the wound, not towards it.
Speaker 2: Right, But we're also talking about weaponry and technol of
Speaker 2: which we know nothing about.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't change the laws of physics. There's
Speaker 4: still like even a recoil less rifle, that's that's which
Speaker 4: takes a lot more. If you're telling like this being
Speaker 4: a recoilst round or something that's not, the bullet wouldn't
Speaker 4: have worked at that distance.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought it was interesting. Spirit animal.
Speaker 2: You've been having your hand up there for a minute.
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts, sir?
Speaker 12: On the Charlie Cook.
Speaker 11: I blame Hassan Petty Uh yeah, I blame Hassan bin
Speaker 11: Laden Petty Pike, because fuck that cunt. He's been calling
Speaker 11: the death of senators and governors and everything. But I
Speaker 11: also do you have any of y'all heard of what's
Speaker 11: been going on in deal Horn, Michigan.
Speaker 12: I feel like this is very important.
Speaker 11: It is currently a majority Islamic population, to the point
Speaker 11: that they're trying to name a street after a hesballa terrorist.
Speaker 12: And the one guy that said, yeah, no, fuck that,
Speaker 12: that's not right.
Speaker 11: This is a miracle. We're not naming shit. The fucking
Speaker 11: Islamic mayor kicked him out of the city, and now
Speaker 11: the police department has their shit in Arabic. And I'm
Speaker 11: not the most politically correct person, but I feel like
Speaker 11: we'll where the fucking inter fata has been globalizer and
Speaker 11: the loually trying to take over every fucking thing.
Speaker 12: So, so that.
Speaker 3: That being said, it's very interesting that you would bring
Speaker 3: this up.
Speaker 4: So has anybody paid attention to what happened in the
Speaker 4: past few days with our secretary of War not Secretary
Speaker 4: of Defense. His title is now Secretary of War because
Speaker 4: it's a fucking badass. So he called every general American
Speaker 4: general from around the world.
Speaker 3: To come to Quatico, Virginia.
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know how many of you are paying
Speaker 4: attention to the news, but that doesn't happen. If you
Speaker 4: are looking for a historical precedent, example, for every current
Speaker 4: serving general in the United States military to all come
Speaker 4: together in one room for a for a little pow wow,
Speaker 4: I believe you would have to go back to the
Speaker 4: founding of the Republic for us to have that kind
Speaker 4: of conversation.
Speaker 3: This doesn't fucking happen.
Speaker 4: Now, had a couple of ideas when this took place,
Speaker 4: had a couple of theories bouncing around in my head.
Speaker 4: Either a they couldn't do it via a call or
Speaker 4: a memo or a zoom or whatever. Possibly because the
Speaker 4: communication lines have been tapped and they are not secure
Speaker 4: lines anymore.
Speaker 2: Laure Zoom is actually Chinese.
Speaker 4: I think it might be at this point, why the
Speaker 4: fuck wouldn't But beside the point, so that was a
Speaker 4: theory I had. Maybe maybe the communication network has a
Speaker 4: bug in it. Maybe they know that their spies about
Speaker 4: so they said, no, fuck that it's something serious and
Speaker 4: we all need you to come together face to face
Speaker 4: for this talk. But more research that I did shows
Speaker 4: that that is not the case. So what is the
Speaker 4: case they have recently released today As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: they just talked about what was discussed at the meeting
Speaker 4: at Quatico Ladies and gentlemen, and they haven't announced this.
Speaker 4: This part is Jacob's personal opinion. Jacob is of the
Speaker 4: opinion at this time that America is about to get
Speaker 4: ready to go to war again, which is good because
Speaker 4: America doesn't do good at peace.
Speaker 3: We don't in the entirety of our history.
Speaker 4: We have been at war for the at this point
Speaker 4: like ninety percent of our existence, we've been in conflict
Speaker 4: with somebody. Us doing peacetime shit doesn't do well for
Speaker 4: our culture and society. That's not a fun an. I
Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna be foreign Jonathan. As a matter
Speaker 4: of fact, Trump came out and said that he is
Speaker 4: getting ready to gear up the generals for a domestic war.
Speaker 4: He said that we were talking about foreign invaders into
Speaker 4: this land, and he believes that we have active components
Speaker 4: in this country that we must address.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: Now this being said, there's a couple of telltale signs
Speaker 4: before this.
Speaker 3: Meeting happened at Quadico.
Speaker 4: Right, goth and Emo are back in action, pop punk
Speaker 4: is back on the radio.
Speaker 3: Uh, the economy is not doing so hot.
Speaker 4: That's all the prey cursors we needed to go to
Speaker 4: war the first time. Okay, culturally speaking, it's clear that
Speaker 4: that's the sign. All the military commercials and shit are
Speaker 4: showing white guys. Now, that's another telltale sign. Whether you
Speaker 4: want to acknowledge it or not, try not trying to
Speaker 4: make it racial. I'm saying that that is what they
Speaker 4: be doing. They're they're they're trying to offer up more
Speaker 4: signing bonuses that they're making it real appealing to join
Speaker 4: the military right about.
Speaker 3: Now while we are at peace.
Speaker 4: That's a pretty big sign of things to come, in
Speaker 4: Jacob's humble opinion. Now, Venezuela has been talking some mad
Speaker 4: shit like they want actual smoke with us. They do not,
Speaker 4: and I don't think they will actually go to war Venezuela.
Speaker 4: We might send somebody there that we have the Marines
Speaker 4: floating off the coast right now, just in case shiit
Speaker 4: gets a little too squirrely, But I don't think that's
Speaker 4: gonna be the actual thing that happens. And I don't
Speaker 4: think that we are gonna be actually putting boots on
Speaker 4: the ground in Israel or in Ukraine. Just so we're
Speaker 4: all clear, I do not believe that that's the case.
Speaker 4: But Right before this meeting happened at Guadico a Russian
Speaker 4: bomber invaded US airspace and it was escorted out. But
Speaker 4: there's multiple foreign actors that are recognizing that America is
Speaker 4: currently that sleeping giant that at one point in time
Speaker 4: Japan saw and thought that they wanted to come up
Speaker 4: to the top and try to slap box the champ.
Speaker 4: There's currently foreign actors that are looking at this sleeping
Speaker 4: giant thinking that now might be the time to take
Speaker 4: their shot. And I'm not saying it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: nine to eleven. I'm not saying it's going to be
Speaker 4: a pearl harbor. In my humble opinion, the fact that
Speaker 4: we have had an open border for as long as
Speaker 4: we have had they have moved in I don't even
Speaker 4: want to say millions, but possibly of military aged males
Speaker 4: from all different kinds of background. It's not just Latin Americans.
Speaker 4: There have been terrorists that have come across our border
Speaker 4: that they have let in. We talked about that a
Speaker 4: few months ago, and now Sam, you're talking about dearborn Michigan.
Speaker 3: That's one option.
Speaker 4: I think possibly the Central American gangs that are operating
Speaker 4: here in the cartels. I think there's a reason why
Speaker 4: Trump has acknowledged them to be terrorist organizations that we
Speaker 4: can use military might against them. And now Trump and
Speaker 4: peak heads Pete Hegseth rather just came out and said
Speaker 4: that a boot camp is about to get hard again.
Speaker 4: It's about to get scary. Drill instructors are gonna be
Speaker 4: allowed to put their hands on recruits again.
Speaker 3: This is real life. Go check it out.
Speaker 4: Anybody who's questioning this, any of my veterans out there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the pussification of the military is fucking done, son,
Speaker 4: We're back to being a real men's organization. Also, if
Speaker 4: you're gonna be anywhere near combat roles, you must pass
Speaker 4: the highest physical standards of male qualification.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4: They're gonna take females out of the fucking infantry more
Speaker 4: than likely, which makes me happy.
Speaker 2: But neither here nor there probably also means that there's
Speaker 2: going to be less people that qualify to even join
Speaker 2: the military.
Speaker 4: Well right now, there's already low numbers on that point,
Speaker 4: but they're trying to make it more and more enticing.
Speaker 4: They're not going to lower the standards as far as
Speaker 4: combat roles are concerned. They're going to lower the standards
Speaker 4: as far as just joining in general goes, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But neither here nor there. Now that
Speaker 4: he's talking about this, he is talking about specifically Chicago, Seattle, Portland, La,
Speaker 4: San Francisco. He's naming big cities that he wants to
Speaker 4: use as training grounds for the United States military.
Speaker 3: Now I see this as.
Speaker 2: A Trump thing, though, because he's always and nothing that's
Speaker 2: true run with it at all. But he's always paid
Speaker 2: the most attention and tried to help the military as
Speaker 2: much as it possibly as much as a president could.
Speaker 4: I think that in the short term it will be great. However,
Speaker 4: in the long term it will fuck us. So let
Speaker 4: me break this down, assuming that we will not be
Speaker 4: going into a civil war like an actual civil war. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's just hypothetically say they deployed National Guard troops to
Speaker 4: New York City and saw pretty solid results as a
Speaker 4: result of this. Okay, because the subways are so dangerous,
Speaker 4: people were dying on them all the time, and the
Speaker 4: police could only do so much, so they deployed the
Speaker 4: National Guard, excuse me, and things got a lot better.
Speaker 9: Cool.
Speaker 4: Washington, DC is now under federal jurisdiction. The crime rate
Speaker 4: in DC has fucking plummeted, even though the media would
Speaker 4: tell you crime in DC is at an all time low,
Speaker 4: even though it wasn't, like by a long shot, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Then Trump tried to send troops to Chicago, and the
Speaker 4: politicians in the state of Illinois said they didn't want
Speaker 4: that shit.
Speaker 3: So then he talked about bringing them to New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Louisiana governors like, please bring them down, start at Shreveport
Speaker 4: and work all the way down New Orleans. Let's clean
Speaker 4: the state up. Fuck yeah. And of course you have
Speaker 4: the mayor of New Orleans that just got brought down
Speaker 4: for federal charges. Come to find out she was fucking
Speaker 4: one of her bodyguards and now she's being indicted for
Speaker 4: crazy embezzlement charges. But we'll get to that another time,
Speaker 4: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: But beside the point, Hey, when you're working long hours,
Speaker 2: you know, you get lonely.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck that bitch, Olatoya Jackson, I think her name
Speaker 4: is she. This is the one at Mardi Gras that
Speaker 4: was flipping off everybody, calling the motherfuckers and then wants
Speaker 4: to act like she's some sort of sanctified Christian. Fuck
Speaker 4: that bitch. No, no, no, No, I'm not going on that.
Speaker 4: We're not getting on the tangent. Back to the point. Okay,
Speaker 4: So all this to say, he is talking about using
Speaker 4: troops in these big cities as training grounds, yes, but
Speaker 4: also to clean these big cities up. In the short term,
Speaker 4: that'd be great. I could see a lot of benefits
Speaker 4: from that. But here's the problem. Executive orders don't go
Speaker 4: away when the new administration comes in. And Trump's only
Speaker 4: got a few more years in office, and maybe even
Speaker 4: the next administration will continue that in a positive way
Speaker 4: in two or maybe even three, but eventually the pendulum
Speaker 4: is going to swing the opposite direction. And if the
Speaker 4: president has an executive order on the books to say
Speaker 4: that federal troops can come in with whatever types of
Speaker 4: just cause that they have to do some deeds.
Speaker 2: It's gonna set the president for the next president that
Speaker 2: comes in.
Speaker 4: You see my point. I'm not sure how I feel
Speaker 4: about it as of this moment. In the short term,
Speaker 4: I see it as a net positive. But what does
Speaker 4: that executive order look like twenty years from now if
Speaker 4: it doesn't get repealed.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe that quote unquote mandate starts becoming a law.
Speaker 3: Oh, it'll be more than a law.
Speaker 4: It'll be it'll be a law to the point where
Speaker 4: if you don't follow it, they may kick down your door.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we had already talked about vaccine camps right,
Speaker 2: like COVID camps and shit like that. That was already
Speaker 2: going on over in Australia in parts of China.
Speaker 4: And let's not even talk about the digital printouts or
Speaker 4: digital pronounce the fucking have you heard?
Speaker 3: Well, what's going on in the UK right now?
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot going on over in the UK, dude.
Speaker 4: The British government has now said that basically social credit
Speaker 4: scores are a thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's a thing over here. We just don't
Speaker 2: call it that yet, but now they're being blatant with it.
Speaker 4: Every single thing is going to be all of your banks,
Speaker 4: all of your everything is going to be attached to
Speaker 4: your person, everything online, everything that involves the Internet, including
Speaker 4: your social media posts, including what kind of pages you're
Speaker 4: subscribed to, what kind of podcasts you listen to, what
Speaker 4: kind of YouTube channels do you subscribe to. All of
Speaker 4: these things are going to be linked to your bank accounts,
Speaker 4: which are all going to be linked to your job site,
Speaker 4: which are all going to be linked to your social
Speaker 4: Security number.
Speaker 2: You know, going on though you think about it, all
Speaker 2: of the immigrants that are like flooding all of the
Speaker 2: UK right now, and everybody speaking out about it, especially
Speaker 2: like the citizens of France, they fucking had enough of
Speaker 2: it at this point, Yes, all of them. If you
Speaker 2: implement this social credit system, it's going to pacify everybody.
Speaker 3: But that's It's not though.
Speaker 4: There's a ton of people in Britain that don't want this,
Speaker 4: and the government is saying, just like you're saying right now,
Speaker 4: they're saying that, can't you see what the good it's
Speaker 4: going to do for us? I'm gonna take everybody back
Speaker 4: to two thousand and two. We're trying to pass this
Speaker 4: Patriot Act to find sleeper cells in this country. Can't
Speaker 4: you see the good that it's gonna do for you?
Speaker 2: A Patriot Act for fuck's sake.
Speaker 4: It's this is what they're doing in Britain right now.
Speaker 4: And I would not be shocked if they do not
Speaker 4: try to implement something like this in America, only to
Speaker 4: find the illegals, only to find the terrorist cells, only
Speaker 4: to find the domestic threats that we have right now
Speaker 4: that they're about to They're talking anyway about launching our
Speaker 4: military to find can't you see that we're trying to
Speaker 4: help America and right now in the short term it might.
Speaker 4: Right now, in the short term, that might help England.
Speaker 4: But what does that look like in five years, ten, twenty.
Speaker 4: You see my problem?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna get a little
Speaker 2: saucy and the future is probably not gonna be awesome. Nick,
Speaker 2: you have a and you had your hand raised there,
Speaker 2: sir for a hot minute. Did you want to jump
Speaker 2: in on something, Nicholas, you.
Speaker 4: Said, Nick? Nick? Good? You see the beard on him now, dude,
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, boy, that bit is getting thick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like he's about to go take an axe
Speaker 2: and start chopping down fucking trees in a forest.
Speaker 4: Dude. Oh you.
Speaker 6: Did y'all say something?
Speaker 2: I was I got caught watching your videos.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we were saying you had your hand raised earlier.
Speaker 4: Did you want to jump in?
Speaker 6: Uh no, I'm good?
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, all right, let's get over the chat, Tony said,
Speaker 2: could Michael, Raphael, Uriel, and Gabriel have been considered their
Speaker 2: own gods long ago? Then they got converted to angels
Speaker 2: when the Eelo hissed religion from the North merged with
Speaker 2: the cult of Yahwe in the South l means God.
Speaker 4: Personally, I don't think so, but I could see the
Speaker 4: connection that you're trying to draw on that for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, here's your problem, Tony, is that you're thinking about
Speaker 2: something that is already understood.
Speaker 4: So don't you're feeling the bits you're feeling but hurt
Speaker 4: about this, aren't you.
Speaker 2: I'm just not allowed to talk about things that I
Speaker 2: have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Anyway, you can just don't be insulting when you do.
Speaker 4: That's all that goes both ways.
Speaker 3: I try very hard to not be insulting.
Speaker 4: From time to time, I slip, I do, but typically
Speaker 4: I try to just have an open and honest debate
Speaker 4: about things, but respectfully, sometimes I do lose my cool.
Speaker 3: This has happened to time or two.
Speaker 2: For sure I was respectful, was I not?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I think any kind of speculation should be
Speaker 14: allowed about this. And I think Judaism probably came into
Speaker 14: existence mostly as we know it, sometimes after the Babylonian
Speaker 14: exile and about four hundred or five hundred BC, and
Speaker 14: they probably you know, selectively edited and redacted a bunch
Speaker 14: of stuff around that time, and we just can't easily
Speaker 14: know what was going on before that.
Speaker 3: Roy scared away in on that.
Speaker 15: On that claim, I do agree that the Babylonian Talmud
Speaker 15: was edited, but I believe it was to make it
Speaker 15: more concise and understandable, not to.
Speaker 8: Edit things out. For example, the Gamara tries to be
Speaker 8: very very good about attributing certain opinions to certain scholars
Speaker 8: if they there are times where it'll say it will
Speaker 8: give a number of opinions, and there'll and sometimes you
Speaker 8: might switch those up. However, they also say they don't
Speaker 8: know if when it comes to things. So, originally Judaism
Speaker 8: was not like the Judaism we have today. We had
Speaker 8: our religion that was more based around temple worship and
Speaker 8: sacrifices instead of in the synagogue like we have it now.
Speaker 8: We definitely have progressed and changed over time. One that
Speaker 8: being said, the Torah hasn't changed, has it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 8: So no, so we believe that the or that we
Speaker 8: that we have now is the exact same one that
Speaker 8: was written by Moses thirty three hundred years ago roughly.
Speaker 4: So, when you say that Judaism has changed. You're not
Speaker 4: talking about the texts. You're talking about the rituals and
Speaker 4: the dogma and the the order of precedence of how
Speaker 4: a service goes and things like that.
Speaker 8: Right, so, right, so prayer, right, So, the kind of
Speaker 8: prayer that we have now is not necessarily the kind
Speaker 8: of prayer that we had in the in the Temple area,
Speaker 8: or let's say when it was before, where there are
Speaker 8: people that couldn't necessarily read Hebrew or because so in
Speaker 8: prayer there is the main part is called the shot estray,
Speaker 8: which is basically eighteen benedictions or eighteen prayers, and this
Speaker 8: is said three times a day, basically three sixty five
Speaker 8: given unless there's a holiday or something. There is a
Speaker 8: silent portion and then there that exact same portion are
Speaker 8: is said out loud. And the whole idea that it
Speaker 8: was said out loud is for those that couldn't read
Speaker 8: the language. Even though most of the people can still
Speaker 8: read the U can still read Hebrew. Now that's still
Speaker 8: in place. So the some some of the texts of
Speaker 8: most prayer books were created from the men of the
Speaker 8: Great Assembly, which I believe was shortly after the destruction
Speaker 8: of the Second Temple.
Speaker 3: So is that what replaced the san Hadrian.
Speaker 8: I don't want. I think so like whenever.
Speaker 4: The Assembly of great men, it sounds like it's at
Speaker 4: least like a san Hadrian esque type of gathering. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't so I'm not totally sure if they had
Speaker 8: the same status as the seventy stages from the Sanhedrin,
Speaker 8: but I know that they had enough pull to be
Speaker 8: able to do things Like one of the things that
Speaker 8: I tried to research in uh not too long ago
Speaker 8: was who wrote what book of our Bible? And you know,
Speaker 8: so like who were at the Toro, who wrote Joshua,
Speaker 8: who wrote Judges, et cetera. Yeah, and so they started
Speaker 8: to help codify what we have or what we know
Speaker 8: as the Tanak or the profit or the tour of
Speaker 8: the prophets and the writings. But as far as like
Speaker 8: there's there are certain things that always have been, but
Speaker 8: just how we do it is different. So the ta
Speaker 8: filling that you guys have have mentioned a couple of times,
Speaker 8: the square the black boxes.
Speaker 4: In the hold nine correct.
Speaker 8: So this is a tradition that we've had for the
Speaker 8: last thirty three hundred years, So that hasn't changed. But
Speaker 8: like it used to be to where men would wear
Speaker 8: them all day. Now we don't.
Speaker 4: So these were like the yamica back in the day,
Speaker 4: or they wore those two.
Speaker 8: No, so they still were a covering on your on
Speaker 8: your head because uh so, yamaka if you look how
Speaker 8: it's spelled, it's looks like yarmolka And basically it's year malka,
Speaker 8: which means in reverence or awe of the king. So
Speaker 8: it's to remind us that there is a God above.
Speaker 4: Us, gotcha.
Speaker 8: So regardless of wearing it to fill in all there, now,
Speaker 8: they still had their heads. Okay, well just yeah, just
Speaker 8: some of the rituals had just changed and been modified, gotcha.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Maybe I should preface this by saying how much Catholicism
Speaker 14: has changed, because I'd argue all religions change all the time,
Speaker 14: and yet they always want to present themselves as never changing.
Speaker 14: So Catholicism used to be all against lending money at interest,
Speaker 14: and then that changed. Catholicism used to also be harshly
Speaker 14: against any kind of like Day of the Dead or
Speaker 14: all Souls Day back about a thousand years ago. But
Speaker 14: then and that changed too. Islam has changed a lot too.
Speaker 14: The word Islam or Muslim didn't even exist for the
Speaker 14: first two or three hundred years of the religion. All
Speaker 14: their stuff is actually quite a bit more recent than
Speaker 14: they aim, and they backdated a lot of it. Judaism
Speaker 14: is pretty ancient. It's more ancient than Christianity or Islam.
Speaker 14: But I still would a certain maybe it would take
Speaker 14: me too long to argue this, that it really only
Speaker 14: goes back to probably around five hundred BC, or maybe
Speaker 14: a little before that, with the Babylonian exile. There's even
Speaker 14: a verse in the in Samuel or King's where they
Speaker 14: King Josiah finds the Torah on a scroll in the
Speaker 14: in the temple that had just been abandoned and forgotten
Speaker 14: about it, and everyone had forgotten about the feast to Passover,
Speaker 14: for example, and then they tried to bring it back.
Speaker 14: But my interpretation of it, it is more like now
Speaker 14: they probably just invented it at that time and then
Speaker 14: pretended it was way older by pretending to find a
Speaker 14: really old scroll. Now this may be kind of a
Speaker 14: little blasphemous, but you know, that's just how I look
Speaker 14: at it now.
Speaker 4: I get it. But I could also see possibly that
Speaker 4: that scroll was found and they had pretty much gone
Speaker 4: away from the Passover feast and all of that. Whenever
Speaker 4: they were in exile and whenever they had turned away
Speaker 4: from God and turned away from their traditions and as
Speaker 4: a result of that lost their land, which they have
Speaker 4: done multiple times throughout the course of history. Then whenever
Speaker 4: they get back in line with their true faith, they
Speaker 4: get their land back. And I'm not saying that that's
Speaker 4: what happened in nineteen forty eight, for you might jumps
Speaker 4: on my shit. I'm saying that if we were talking
Speaker 4: about the historic precedents to it, that's kind of been
Speaker 4: their ebbs and flows as far as the Jews slash
Speaker 4: Hebrews and their relationship to their quote unquote promised land.
Speaker 4: So I could see that also being possibly what that
Speaker 4: was about.
Speaker 14: I don't know, Yeah, I think pretty much everything before
Speaker 14: five hundred BC could easily have been kind of retroactively,
Speaker 14: retconned or fabricated, could have been Maybe it all really
Speaker 14: did happen, but it's just as you further back you
Speaker 14: can go exponentially, you get less and less to go on.
Speaker 14: So like from the time of Jesus on, we just
Speaker 14: have so much more documentation of everything, including Judaism and
Speaker 14: the Talmud and everything. Everything's way better documented in the
Speaker 14: more recent times, but trying to reach way back to
Speaker 14: like four thousand years ago over thirty three hundred years ago,
Speaker 14: it's just really difficult, and it really does kind of
Speaker 14: require a leap of faith, and some people make the
Speaker 14: leap of faith and others don't. Same thing for Christianity,
Speaker 14: you know.
Speaker 4: I agree with that. Yeah, I mean, Alexander the Great
Speaker 4: was alive in the four hundreds BC, but nobody wrote
Speaker 4: about him until like well after one hundred years after
Speaker 4: his death, and there's all kinds of evidence that he
Speaker 4: did all the things that he said that he did
Speaker 4: or that they quote unquote say that he did, even
Speaker 4: though nobody wrote about it in that timeframe and only
Speaker 4: talked about it after the fact. So I could absolutely
Speaker 4: see that, like back in those days, keeping a good
Speaker 4: record book was a little bit more of a suggestion.
Speaker 8: You know, I think they're the only thing. My last
Speaker 8: point that I'll make on this as far as the
Speaker 8: or how long the had been around, is that there
Speaker 8: is a tomb called the Cave of the Mapela, of
Speaker 8: which has been around for thousands of years, and interestingly enough,
Speaker 8: has never been opened and we believe that in that Kevin,
Speaker 8: in that cave was buried Abraham and Sarah, Adam and Eve,
Speaker 8: Isaac and Lan. I think there might be one more,
Speaker 8: and that goes back a very, very very long time.
Speaker 4: I wish somebody would open it and see what kind
Speaker 4: of remains are still in there. That'd be fascinating.
Speaker 8: Well, especially because whenever Jacob was buried, he was buried
Speaker 8: with a number of crowns from the kings all around
Speaker 8: him because of the procession that he had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fascinating history, man, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't the flood of like annihilated all of that.
Speaker 8: Ohst flood Jacob's post flood, that's the acts.
Speaker 2: My bad, I thought you were talking about something else,
Speaker 2: My bad.
Speaker 14: Okay, Yeah, but also like when the flood have wiped
Speaker 14: out all of Canes descendants too, except for maybe Ogue.
Speaker 14: But then, yeah, you guys brought that up earlier. I
Speaker 14: guess that answers that.
Speaker 4: Never mind, which, for the record, I had never heard
Speaker 4: of Oge hanging on to the side of the arc.
Speaker 4: That is new information to me. That's not spoken of
Speaker 4: in the Bible. That is a Jewish tradition, and I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to negate it and say that that makes
Speaker 4: it bullshit. I'm saying, this is the first time I've
Speaker 4: ever heard of that, So I find that fascinating.
Speaker 2: Dude hung for three hundred and seventy six days.
Speaker 8: So one of funny interesting point about the Gamara is
Speaker 8: that there's basically two different not parts, but like it's
Speaker 8: kind of broken down into two different aspects. So one
Speaker 8: has to deal with with law and how we come
Speaker 8: up with rules. The other there are stories, and this
Speaker 8: is called a gadadha, and there are some amazing stories
Speaker 8: and like some they seem very very hard to believe,
Speaker 8: and there are people that believe it one hundred percent,
Speaker 8: and there's people that say, nope, this is These are
Speaker 8: just stories and allegories one ndred percent. So there's a
Speaker 8: pretty good mixture. But yeah, this is these are the
Speaker 8: stories that are kind of in the Gamara. Where come
Speaker 8: you know all that? And then you know how you
Speaker 8: in breakfast, which is how the how the Gamar starts.
Speaker 8: It gives detailed instructions on if you want to see demons,
Speaker 8: all right, here's here's your recipe to do it. You know,
Speaker 8: you have to get a black cat. That's the seven
Speaker 8: the seventh son of a black cat and you put
Speaker 8: the blood in your gud like. So it's very very interesting.
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of really really interesting stuff. And
Speaker 8: at that point pretty much and part part part of
Speaker 8: it is and then one of the things that's I
Speaker 8: want to say different in a way with the Torre
Speaker 8: and the Old Testament as opposed to the New is
Speaker 8: even when it comes to our the head honchos So Moses,
Speaker 8: who we believe is the greatest prophet that we have
Speaker 8: had and we will have it, talks about as flaws.
Speaker 8: So sure, so David had flaws, same lad flaws. Aaron
Speaker 8: had flaws, Moses had flaws. It's a lot more talk
Speaker 8: about our humanity and that even though you can be
Speaker 8: so great, you can still make mistakes, as opposed to
Speaker 8: other religions where their head guy has never sinned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I personally like that and Jesus aside, we're
Speaker 4: talking about like from the Old Testament. I like the
Speaker 4: fact that they humanize all of the heroes. Every single
Speaker 4: one of them has their inherent flaws and they talk
Speaker 4: about them, and I feel like that's on purpose right
Speaker 4: to not put them in some sort of a god
Speaker 4: to your status or you know, to compare it to
Speaker 4: another religion or faith, I should say a Herculean style,
Speaker 4: where like this guy who was just put in a
Speaker 4: bad situation just exceeded no matter what. No, no, no.
Speaker 4: They talk about how the heroes within the Bible had
Speaker 4: flaws and fucked up a lot, and they were still
Speaker 4: used to further the message and be used to glorify
Speaker 4: the creator. I think that's excellent personally. Uh, your hand raised.
Speaker 11: It's funny you brought up Hercules and we're talking about
Speaker 11: the judges and prophets. One of the most badass judges
Speaker 11: in my opinion, Samson.
Speaker 12: He was a boy. He was supposed to he was
Speaker 12: raised as a Nazarite.
Speaker 11: Well, he wasn't supposed to cut his hair, he wasn't
Speaker 11: supposed to eat anything dead and everything. But if you
Speaker 11: noticed through his life and everything through his story, he
Speaker 11: broke He broke almost every major.
Speaker 12: Law of being a Nazarite.
Speaker 11: But yeah, at the end, God did not and in
Speaker 11: him when when he begged, when he asked for God
Speaker 11: for one last chance, and when he pushed the pillars down,
Speaker 11: Which is also why in strong in competitions they have you,
Speaker 11: they have the guys hold the two pillars up as
Speaker 11: long as they can, because that's a symbol of a
Speaker 11: Sampson pushing the pillars down. When he and he killed
Speaker 11: over a thousand, I won't say it was a thousand
Speaker 11: of gentiles, uh No, with the jaw of an ass. Also,
Speaker 11: one of the one of my favorite riddles is actually
Speaker 11: formed Sampson. Out of the strong comes something. Yeah, out
Speaker 11: of the strong comes something sweet. Out of I messed
Speaker 11: up the little but anyway, he fed his parents the
Speaker 11: very the lion he killed like a couple of hours later,
Speaker 11: Bee's gotten its mall and started to produce honey. He
Speaker 11: took the honey from the dead animal with us making
Speaker 11: it unclean. Not only did he eat of it, he
Speaker 11: tricked his parents into eating it. So that is like
Speaker 11: a not just one, a two or three slap in
Speaker 11: the face of the lord. But that's also a sap
Speaker 11: to his parents's and everything. That's a sap to the
Speaker 11: culture and law.
Speaker 4: Samson was a very flawed character, but even still was
Speaker 4: used for his purpose until Delilah's bitch ass got him.
Speaker 2: Delilah hells it going and yeah, out of the eater
Speaker 2: came something to eat, and out.
Speaker 11: Of the something, the sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Samson with a Samson. I vow to God that
Speaker 4: was a whole That was a whole thing. Dude, just
Speaker 4: don't cut your hair, and he gave him a list.
Speaker 4: Cutting your hair was one of them. And if you
Speaker 4: don't cut your hair, you'll always have strength and ever
Speaker 4: be defeated in battle. Of course, a woman gets some drunk,
Speaker 4: ties them to the kitchen chair and then cuts off it.
Speaker 11: You know, she gaslighted and manipulate him, because there was
Speaker 11: three times she said, do you know if you loved me,
Speaker 11: you'll tell.
Speaker 12: Me this and he lied and.
Speaker 4: He she didn't put that thing on him.
Speaker 3: Boy, he ain't never had nothing like that. That's what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 11: I've always say, grippy box, grippy say was glippy bonds bubble,
Speaker 11: and that bitch was bat shit in sing.
Speaker 4: This was a biblical version of a honey pot, if
Speaker 4: you will, but we'll get Yeah, he had money, Aston.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts, sir, can y'all hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Yeah, all right, I'm on my phone today. I kind
Speaker 13: of crushed my laptop sche all right. So uh, this
Speaker 13: is more of a question for Royce if he's willing
Speaker 13: to answer it. But it seems whenever you guys reference
Speaker 13: the Jewish text, you're only referring to the Torah, which
Speaker 13: is the first five books. A little while back, I
Speaker 13: was talking to chat Ept and I was just curious
Speaker 13: how the Jewish Hebrew Bible ends. And I didn't know
Speaker 13: it was called the Tanakh. So that's the complete text, uh,
Speaker 13: including the Torah. I was hoping, uh, Royce could speak
Speaker 13: on it as far as chat gpt. It just says
Speaker 13: and Jude isn't it ends with chronicles and in Christianity
Speaker 13: it typically ends with Malachi depending on the version. So yeah,
Speaker 13: that's my question if if he was willing to speak
Speaker 13: on that.
Speaker 8: I mean, sure, I believe it ends, and well, I
Speaker 8: honestly I don't know.
Speaker 4: I felt like kings huh.
Speaker 8: So so since it's it's broken up into Tourah, the prophets,
Speaker 8: and the writings, so the writings of the last team
Speaker 8: Malachy is the is how it ends? Hold on one
Speaker 8: quick second.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'll take your time, because now I've actually never
Speaker 4: thought about how this goes. Which section of the Old
Speaker 4: Testament does the Jewish Bible or the to knock end.
Speaker 3: I'm I yeah, we say Malachi malakey is.
Speaker 8: How you say it, Malachiah, Jesus, you.
Speaker 4: Gotta throw the fleme on it. Bro my bad, But
Speaker 4: I honestly kind of that there's ended with Malaka. I'll
Speaker 4: be damn.
Speaker 8: So it ends in second Chronicles, since that is the
Speaker 8: writings Malachi is in the Prophets.
Speaker 3: Looks like that's in the Book of the Prophets.
Speaker 4: Correct, So the Book of the Prophets is not a
Speaker 4: portion of the Hebrew Bible.
Speaker 8: So it is so it we actually have a rhyme
Speaker 8: and reason for our for how we categorize things. So,
Speaker 8: for example, the the Prophets starts with Joshua and goes
Speaker 8: through Malachi. He's the he is the last of the Prophets.
Speaker 8: And then the writings starts with Psalms and ends in
Speaker 8: second chronicles.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you have the same books in the Old
Speaker 4: Testament that you have in yours, but in different order
Speaker 4: and different sections. Yes, got you?
Speaker 8: So? So like how like Psalms is like right in
Speaker 8: the middle of the Old New Testament. It's obviously it's
Speaker 8: not that way in ours. It's the beginning of our
Speaker 8: books of writings. Like so some of the writings include Psalms, Proverbs,
Speaker 8: job song of songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemia,
Speaker 8: and First and Sectred chronicles.
Speaker 4: Interesting, good question, you've never actually thought about that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that was so chat GPT wasn't too far off.
Speaker 13: I mean that was pretty They give me a decent
Speaker 13: answer for to say the least, it was right.
Speaker 4: It just didn't give you the entire answer because it's.
Speaker 13: A yeah, yeah, all right, thank you Royce, and.
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, all right, let's get to the chat because
Speaker 4: that thing has been growing.
Speaker 2: White Boy Wizard said, we live in a hall of
Speaker 2: graphic matrix, and the Demiurge is the ruler of this realm.
Speaker 4: I dig an opinion.
Speaker 2: It's a Gnostic throwback. Ashton said, bro I had a
Speaker 2: reoccurring dream as a child and innumerable amount of times
Speaker 2: where I was something very similar to the Gnostic depiction
Speaker 2: of the Demiurge rising out of the sea and looking
Speaker 2: down upon an abandoned city that looked like New York.
Speaker 2: Man dreams. God, I just love looking into like dream
Speaker 2: meanings and whatnot. But yeah, that's that's a strange feeling.
Speaker 4: I wish I would have those. They sound fun drinks,
Speaker 4: apple juice. You know what, interestingly enough, I have a
Speaker 4: gallon of apple cider in my fridge right now. I know,
Speaker 4: I know so many people are gonna say for shame
Speaker 4: being Southern and drinking apple cider. This shit's fucking delicious,
Speaker 4: all right. I ain't gonna hear any of it, but yeah,
Speaker 4: so you know I might. I might just give me
Speaker 4: a couple of big old swigs of that before bed
Speaker 4: tonight and see how the cookie crumbles. Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even though it's pumpkin spice season. Hey you,
Speaker 2: Tony said, there is a flotilla of forty two ships
Speaker 2: heading to Gaza. News may drop any minute of an
Speaker 2: attack on them. Looks like the sun is coming up
Speaker 2: over there. No major news. They are still heading for Gaza.
Speaker 4: If they do get attacked, the Italian Navy is gonna
Speaker 4: have something to say about it. We just talked about
Speaker 4: this on the Cage to Night Live, which not a
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Speaker 4: Live every Wednesday night at nine pm Central. But anyway,
Speaker 4: so we just talked about this on the Cajun Night.
Speaker 4: The Italian Navy is now guarding the flotilla that is
Speaker 4: making its way to Gaza. If this flotilla gets attacked,
Speaker 4: the Italian Navy is gonna respond to it, and that
Speaker 4: might kick start a bigger conflict than what I think
Speaker 4: people really want. Now. I'm not saying that the Italian
Speaker 4: military is something that we need to.
Speaker 3: Be afraid of.
Speaker 4: They're they're mid they're they're capable ish, you know, I'll
Speaker 4: give the credit where it's due. But even still, this
Speaker 4: flotilla has not had any defenders the entire time. This
Speaker 4: is in the first flotilla that's tried to make its
Speaker 4: way to Gaza. Now that they do have a little
Speaker 4: bit of a shielding, I'd be very interested to see
Speaker 4: what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds pretty interesting. And by the way, I
Speaker 2: believe that that was just uh, irregular citizens. They kind
Speaker 2: of put that together.
Speaker 4: Uh, there's a couple of civil rights groups that have
Speaker 4: put it together. That's the one that uh, what's her
Speaker 4: nameble down syndrome. Chick hew Dare you well was that Thumburg.
Speaker 2: Greta Thumberg a Thumberg? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she Thornberg. Where the fuck her name is? She
Speaker 4: was on the last flotilla that tried to make its
Speaker 4: way there, and then when they were arrested, she's like.
Speaker 3: Do you know who I am?
Speaker 4: You can't just she fucking kicked out obviously because no
Speaker 4: one gets a fuck about her, like.
Speaker 2: Partly deaf or something. Why don't she talk like that?
Speaker 4: I think she has downs, Like I wasn't joking when
Speaker 4: I said that. I think she's like not just on
Speaker 4: the spectrum, like I think her parents are probably related.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well.
Speaker 3: Or her mom drank heavily while she was in vitro.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Either could be true. At the same time,
Speaker 4: I suppose.
Speaker 2: Well, she could benefit from what Zombie just shared. It
Speaker 2: was a link that connects us to brain computer interfaces,
Speaker 2: otherwise known as BCI's The Future of Human Machine Interaction.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, buddy, telling you like Black Mirror was prophecy,
Speaker 2: Like straight up, anybody that's ever seen Black Mirror. Every
Speaker 2: single episode has been alluding to some kind of brain
Speaker 2: computer interface that's not a good thing. No, No, I
Speaker 2: just think that it's amazing that they kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: got ahead of it.
Speaker 4: No, so what does it say? Do we need to
Speaker 4: pulling up.
Speaker 2: The article or it's not an article, it's a video.
Speaker 4: So how long?
Speaker 2: I didn't even I don't know. I'll check thirty something minutes,
Speaker 2: I think Ooh okay, Tony said, Seth was a was
Speaker 2: also a devil nomad character in Egyptian mythology who killed
Speaker 2: his brother Osyrus. Judaism borrowed his name for the third
Speaker 2: child of Adam and Eve. Egyptians around four hundred to
Speaker 2: zero BC believe the Jews worship Seth.
Speaker 4: Set was the Egyptian god, not Seth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Potato, Patato, you know.
Speaker 11: The way.
Speaker 8: Sorry, one quick thing. There is no taching Hebrew, so
Speaker 8: either you would make a T or an s sound
Speaker 8: depending on who says it. I've heard Schaites or chase.
Speaker 2: Interesting it was the shaite.
Speaker 3: Oh damn it, you beat me to it. I was
Speaker 3: trying to figure out a way that I was going
Speaker 3: to put that in there.
Speaker 4: But fuck, that was good for.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sheton dirty mother Trucker said, has anyone heard
Speaker 2: from Pickle yet? No?
Speaker 4: No, dude, he fell off the fucking map.
Speaker 2: Could be training for a match or something. Who knows.
Speaker 2: I think he's Sam fighting though, Sam.
Speaker 3: You have his number?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I been texting him off a storm.
Speaker 5: Last time I talked to him was.
Speaker 11: That night that we that live that I ended up
Speaker 11: driving to my cousin's house kind of fucked up. Oh,
Speaker 11: that was the last time we talked. We talked to
Speaker 11: like one am. He kind of sound off. Well, now
Speaker 11: that I look back, but it was like.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but he was like you good. I'm yes, sir,
Speaker 5: You okay, Bob, And he's like, yeah, well good night.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, good night, Bob. Talked to you
Speaker 5: next Tuesday he said yeah, and then nothing.
Speaker 4: Pickle, you're listening, We know you are. Come on the
Speaker 4: live or at least drop us a DM on Patreon
Speaker 4: to let us know that you're still kicking. Bro.
Speaker 5: Hey, we love you though.
Speaker 2: Rick so Ashton put the Multiverse of Messiah and it's
Speaker 2: a bunch. What is this?
Speaker 4: Where are you at? Come? Oh?
Speaker 2: It's a Crowley's Alien? Was that Crowley's Alien?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: Jesus whom? I thinking? Yeah, that's interesting. It's just all
Speaker 2: the different depictions.
Speaker 4: Oh, Wow, I'm looking at Muhammad. I'm looking at a
Speaker 4: Sikh dude. I'm looking at South Park Jesus family guy, Jesus,
Speaker 4: looking at uh, your boy Jonathan Rooney. Yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 4: at black Jesus. Hell. Yeah, I'm still fucking pissed that
Speaker 4: those assholes took down my black Nativity set that I
Speaker 4: had in my front yard.
Speaker 3: I thought it was gorgeous.
Speaker 4: I don't fucking know. It was years ago, bro, I
Speaker 4: had You know, some of these people have like the
Speaker 4: really nice, thick wooden, painted, uh Nativity sets that they'll
Speaker 4: put out every Christmas. I had a really solid black one.
Speaker 4: Joseph had corn rows. Mary was wearing a whole head piece.
Speaker 4: Baby Jesus had an afro. I thought it was great,
Speaker 4: and some asshole took it from my yard never to
Speaker 4: be seen again. And I don't know, I didn't have
Speaker 4: cameras at that time. It was years and years ago,
Speaker 4: but like I know, I put it in my fucking yard.
Speaker 4: I know, one morning I wake up and it's not there,
Speaker 4: But like, like that was nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is is that back whenever I
Speaker 2: was living in Louisiana, whenever I first moved from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: We lived right next door to Eric Reed and Justin Reid.
Speaker 2: They went on to play in the NFL, right yeah,
Speaker 2: and Justin Reid, I think is playing for the Saints
Speaker 2: right now, which is pretty cool. But anyway, you know,
Speaker 2: they always had the black Santa Claus outside their house,
Speaker 2: and I always just thought it was funny and cool
Speaker 2: and shit. And I don't know, I mean, they never
Speaker 2: got their black Santa stolen.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying maybe because it was a black family
Speaker 4: and people left it alone. But because a white dude
Speaker 4: puts out a black Nativity set apparently, I'm I don't know,
Speaker 4: how does that make me racist? If anything, I feel
Speaker 4: like that would show that I'm, you know, down with
Speaker 4: the culture.
Speaker 3: But I guess not.
Speaker 4: I guess some people have no fucking holiday spirit.
Speaker 2: But anyway, might be one of those things where you
Speaker 2: damned if you do, and you damned if you don't.
Speaker 4: You know, I fucking guess. Just we'll know, Jesus wasn't white,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't black neither. Like just just we're all clear
Speaker 4: on that. But anyway, anyway.
Speaker 2: Rose said, is that Rose said it? Yeah? Rose said,
Speaker 2: what do we think about all the mass shootings? And
Speaker 2: bomb threats lately. Think it's government orchestrated to create a
Speaker 2: distraction from the Charlie Kirk assassination. I wouldn't say that
Speaker 2: it would be to create a distraction from it. I
Speaker 2: think that, uh, that something is ramping up though, And
Speaker 2: I think that maybe the whole Charlie Kirk thing really
Speaker 2: like set that ball rolling. I know that there was
Speaker 2: like a bunch of stuff that was going on before that,
Speaker 2: but that was like it got more than just national attention.
Speaker 2: It got like global or flat earth attention, And hey, dude,
Speaker 2: you gotta show respect from time to time. But I
Speaker 2: think that there has been really strange things like just
Speaker 2: was it like a week ago or something like that
Speaker 2: there was a Mormon temple or whatever that somebody ran
Speaker 2: their car into. Yeah, got out the car and started
Speaker 2: spraying bullets and everything, and it's like shot up by
Speaker 2: a veteran too. Yeah, And and remember like what was it,
Speaker 2: uh for? Was it New Years that shit that happened down.
Speaker 4: On Bourbon Bourbon Street? You had the isis wannabe?
Speaker 8: Do?
Speaker 3: That just drove down and killed people.
Speaker 4: Then right after that we had the the Tesla Trump
Speaker 4: Tower explosion in Vegas.
Speaker 3: Like but Aside from that, I think.
Speaker 4: All of these things might be what the government uses
Speaker 4: as justification to push a more military heavy footing on
Speaker 4: home soil. It's just my hot take.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely could be. It also could be a
Speaker 2: bigger push for even like stronger surveillance.
Speaker 4: That exactly, And I feel like so many people because
Speaker 4: of who he is currently in charge, and because there
Speaker 4: will be some very short term, very good things that
Speaker 4: come out of it, crime will be all time low.
Speaker 4: These things by ba bop. But I feel like people,
Speaker 4: same way they did with the Patriot Act, they will,
Speaker 4: whether they willingly know what they're doing or are ignorant
Speaker 4: to what they're doing, are going to hand over their
Speaker 4: independence for the They're gonna hand over dangerous freedom for
Speaker 4: the sense of safe slavery.
Speaker 3: I think that that's where it's gonna lead to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Spirit Animals said No, I believe it's
Speaker 2: the devil's hand. White Boy Wizard said one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: orchestrated just like always. Kyl said, definitely, distraction and push
Speaker 2: the agenda. Midnight Kong said distractions for sure. Rose said
Speaker 2: I think so too. They don't want us to ask
Speaker 2: any more questions about Charlie Kirk. Now there is always
Speaker 2: this kind of bullshit going on, but not like this.
Speaker 2: Renee said, I think a few more, a few more
Speaker 2: organized ones. Definitely distraction, but I think that there have
Speaker 2: been a lot of because of the opportunity. Is uh oh,
Speaker 2: the opportunity is there in the media is running with
Speaker 2: it absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They never throw away a good chaotic event.
Speaker 4: Not let catam go to waste. Bro never let a
Speaker 4: cataclysm go to waste.
Speaker 2: Rose said, the media is most certainly being told to
Speaker 2: push it very project mocking Bird of them. Yes, and
Speaker 2: then Renee said, got to get mocking Bird in place
Speaker 2: for Bluebeam to be believable. Oh all right, why not? Possibly?
Speaker 2: Dirty mother truck? What ad done? Done?
Speaker 3: Dun?
Speaker 2: Everybody always has a hard time on muting. I get
Speaker 2: it on the phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it once you like figure out where
Speaker 4: it's at and it's no big deal. But like you know, now,
Speaker 4: could you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 16: B Is there any way that Charlie Kirk could have
Speaker 16: been like upon in this eight D chest that they're playing.
Speaker 3: I believe he was.
Speaker 2: I think there's no way that he wasn't.
Speaker 16: Because the way I said his wife was his handler
Speaker 16: and he was set in motion to make this big scene,
Speaker 16: and either they stopped him because he was going to
Speaker 16: run for president later, or now they're pushing it for
Speaker 16: her to be running for president later.
Speaker 4: I don't he said so many times that he wanted
Speaker 4: nothing to do with the political game in that way.
Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying that that couldn't have changed with time, Like,
Speaker 4: for sure, it's possible, But I'm hearing murmurs more and
Speaker 4: more that people are saying that they wish that she
Speaker 4: would run. I don't know if she has said one
Speaker 4: way or another, if she's even considering that or not.
Speaker 4: I know that she is now running turning point, and
Speaker 4: like that's something to be said. But I'm also wondering
Speaker 4: if this is very similar to how everybody is like
Speaker 4: Michelle Obama's going to run for office, even though she
Speaker 4: has said no the fuck I'm not, but like a
Speaker 4: lot of people want her too, and if enough people
Speaker 4: make that push, we'll see what happens. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I've seen so much controversy when it
Speaker 4: comes to Erica kirk here in the past two weeks.
Speaker 4: My god, apparently she was in this music video and
Speaker 4: people are losing her mind because like there's a part
Speaker 4: where she goes over a zip line where nine to
Speaker 4: eleven is showing on screen, and my only thought is like, Okay,
Speaker 4: so are you saying that Erica Kirk had something to
Speaker 4: do with September eleventh.
Speaker 3: I don't understand the connection there, but all right, and.
Speaker 16: Didn't didn't come out that she it was like sex
Speaker 16: trafficking or something when.
Speaker 4: She was doing evangelical Yeah, she was doing evangelical mission
Speaker 4: work in Romania. And during that time, that wasn't the
Speaker 4: only mission that was operating in Romania. I should mention
Speaker 4: that there was a few, But during that time a
Speaker 4: lot of these evangelical mission groups were accused of child trafficking.
Speaker 4: I have no idea if the one that she was
Speaker 4: affiliated with was being that in that way or not,
Speaker 4: But the timelines and the accusations do not look good.
Speaker 4: I will say that. Plus the whole thing about her,
Speaker 4: the only reason we even know who she is is
Speaker 4: because of Trump and the Miss USA pageant.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and if you look, she's tied with Trump years.
Speaker 3: Back, Yeah, like two thousand and three years back.
Speaker 9: And wasn't that before she met Charlie.
Speaker 4: She was years before they met Charlie something, I think.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and see that's why I think she was put
Speaker 16: in to bring him up to do this, and it
Speaker 16: it may have worked out in their favor. Sorry, it
Speaker 16: may have worked out in their favor. That uh, because
Speaker 16: look what nobody's talking about right now. What was the
Speaker 16: whole world talking about? Just before this? Everybody was asking
Speaker 16: about Epstein? Yeah, and ever since this, nobody has mentioned Epstein.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, because early rate before this, you know, it
Speaker 2: was what a week or two that Trump was like,
Speaker 2: you guys are still talking about Fsen. You know, it
Speaker 2: was just really strange timing. And to be honest, I
Speaker 2: this is my own personal opinion. If it is coming
Speaker 2: from inside the house, if we are to assume that
Speaker 2: it was a United States killing, it is clear and
Speaker 2: obvious to me as to why they would do it.
Speaker 2: And I believe martyrdom. Personally. I believe that it's just
Speaker 2: martyrdom and they want because you think about how many views,
Speaker 2: how many likes, how many conversations have been had. I mean,
Speaker 2: every single one of Charlie Kirk's videos on Turning Point,
Speaker 2: whether it's on Facebook or Instagram or you know, TikTok
Speaker 2: or YouTube or whatever, they're blowing the fuck up. His
Speaker 2: message is being seen and heard more more now than
Speaker 2: it ever has, and a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 2: of people are like, man, you know, it's such a
Speaker 2: shame that such a good person died. And you know,
Speaker 2: even the people that aren't Christian, I mean, the the
Speaker 2: people that you know, will listen to him and be like, wow, yes,
Speaker 2: he actually has some really good talking points. He actually
Speaker 2: knows what he's talking about. It's pretty it's pretty you know,
Speaker 2: awesome that he was able to retain just the crazy
Speaker 2: amount of stats in his own mind, right.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude was an absolute sponge for information. And
Speaker 2: I would say that I think that if it was
Speaker 2: it was the call, if the call was from inside
Speaker 2: the house, that has to be martyred him in some
Speaker 2: way or another.
Speaker 16: Well and could and could uh this be something to
Speaker 16: do with like what uh Jacob was talking about, like
Speaker 16: what they just meant about, because I mean Trun's pushing
Speaker 16: this about going to war inside the United States? Could
Speaker 16: they say couldn't Could they come out and say be like, well,
Speaker 16: this is uh one of them over here that did
Speaker 16: that to him.
Speaker 9: Now let's get them.
Speaker 4: It's very possible and I'm not saying that it absolutely
Speaker 4: will lead to it. I'm saying that the House of
Speaker 4: cards has got its first layer built, the base layer
Speaker 4: is constructed.
Speaker 2: What I will say is that if the revolution or
Speaker 2: a civil war is started by our government, it will
Speaker 2: not There's no way we should accept it as grassroots
Speaker 2: and we shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Speaker 4: That's what What do you mean?
Speaker 2: So, like, if there's going to be some kind of
Speaker 2: civil war, like they're not just going to allow a
Speaker 2: civil war to happen, you know, Like I think that
Speaker 2: if there is going to be a civil war, the
Speaker 2: flames will be fanned and it'll get blown completely out
Speaker 2: of proportion, and it will be to shape the future
Speaker 2: of this country on purpose.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you, this is a hypothetical. I
Speaker 4: know you're not like the biggest history buff on earth,
Speaker 4: but just walk with me here. Okay, Let's take it
Speaker 4: all the way back to the eighteen thirties, eighteen forties,
Speaker 4: the decades leading up to the American Civil War, and
Speaker 4: there was already murmurs in this state wanted to be
Speaker 4: a slave state, this state wanted to be a free state.
Speaker 4: These types of taxes, these types of infringements all these things.
Speaker 4: Right if, hypothetically the Northern States or just the US
Speaker 4: because we were still a US country at that time
Speaker 4: before the separation, Right, if they would have put a
Speaker 4: heavier military presence for security purposes, quote unquote in the
Speaker 4: Southern States, do you think that the South would have
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to secede?
Speaker 2: I don't know it.
Speaker 4: Possibly, I'm not saying this one hundred percent. Possibly that
Speaker 4: would have prevented the separation and prevented the civil war.
Speaker 3: Could this what Trump is doing right now?
Speaker 4: Because he can see the writing on the walls, he
Speaker 4: can see the telltale signs, and he can see that
Speaker 4: a civil war is looming. Could he be sending troops
Speaker 4: into the big cities, which are hubs of a certain
Speaker 4: type of political ideology. Could he be doing this so
Speaker 4: that when and if a civil war pops off, the
Speaker 4: troops are already in place to where they could shut
Speaker 4: that shit down in a matter of a month pretty
Speaker 4: much avoid a civil war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm somebody I don't believe that any of
Speaker 2: this shit is genuine. Like, I think that it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be Trump trying to prevent a civil war out if
Speaker 2: we are to believe that that call came from inside
Speaker 2: the house. Then the idea of turning Charlie into a
Speaker 2: martyr and everybody disagreeing with him, that would be the fracturing,
Speaker 2: the fracturing point of a potential civil war. And if
Speaker 2: that's the case, think about, dude, how many days and
Speaker 2: even still you can still find Charlie Kirk getting shot
Speaker 2: on the fucking jugular And meanwhile, I mean, other things
Speaker 2: are completely censored. This stuff is being blasted on purpose,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and if there is going to be
Speaker 2: some kind of war that stems from it, it's because
Speaker 2: they're fanning the flame.
Speaker 3: They're the one.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, and that's my point. I don't
Speaker 4: think that, let's just call it, they not Trump, because
Speaker 4: again he's a figurehead only for a couple of years.
Speaker 4: I don't think that they want a civil war. I
Speaker 4: think that they want people to think that civil war
Speaker 4: is an impossibility. And I think that when it pops off,
Speaker 4: they want to be ahead of it so far and
Speaker 4: so hard that they shut it down so quick that
Speaker 4: nobody is gonna think that we should try this shit again.
Speaker 4: They might be using Charlie Kirk to be the martyr
Speaker 4: to kick start the chain of events to lead people
Speaker 4: to start a civil war so that they could shut
Speaker 4: it down so quick and so fast that nobody talks
Speaker 4: about a civil war, even possibly.
Speaker 2: I think it would be in their benefit if there
Speaker 2: was ever a civil war, because that attention on each
Speaker 2: other and not on them.
Speaker 4: But the country would and that would not play beneficially
Speaker 4: for us in any way, not economically, not militarily, not
Speaker 4: population density, not agriculturally.
Speaker 11: Not.
Speaker 4: A civil war in America would not play out positively,
Speaker 4: even for the victor, because at that point now we
Speaker 4: would be Yeah, you'd be the winner over the fucking
Speaker 4: ashes of what was once the greatest empire of the
Speaker 4: world had ever seen.
Speaker 9: Could this be another nine to eleven? Though, That's what
Speaker 9: I'm getting at.
Speaker 4: But the nine to eleven sent us to a foreign war.
Speaker 4: If Charlie Kirk is a martyr for a civil war,
Speaker 4: that's the thing. The wars one that took place in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: Most Americans were not actually affected by a mud hut
Speaker 4: getting destroyed in a whole other continent. They would be
Speaker 4: affected by seeing that shit on their home soil. True,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm not saying this is a fact
Speaker 4: I'm saying that I can see the possibility of the
Speaker 4: chain of events.
Speaker 3: I hope to God that I'm wrong. You know, I've
Speaker 3: been wrong before.
Speaker 9: Just in my head.
Speaker 16: I just seed it coming out of saying, what's Massad
Speaker 16: or it's Israel, it's whoever that they've infiltrated the US
Speaker 16: because Biden opened the gates for them, and they said, okay,
Speaker 16: well it wasn't this Charlie guy or whoever, Tyler, whatever
Speaker 16: his name was. It was actually one of them. They're
Speaker 16: on American soul, let's go.
Speaker 4: I mean, as far as the martyr conversation goes, I
Speaker 4: could see it very similar to MLK, who was martyr
Speaker 4: for his cause, done by American agents right publicly, the
Speaker 4: shot and all these things, and it kickstarted some civil unrest,
Speaker 4: Savannah was burned, all these things happened.
Speaker 3: But it was done in house.
Speaker 4: I could see a world where it was done to
Speaker 4: Charlie for the exact same reason. MLK was not a
Speaker 4: politician guy. He had no shot of running for politics.
Speaker 4: He did not want to run for politics, but he
Speaker 4: was political. I could see Charlie Kirk in this whole
Speaker 4: situation being the equal and opposite of something similar to
Speaker 4: that and.
Speaker 9: Look at all the walls that changed after MK.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're on the fucking money, dude. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 4: And again, I could be so wrong and completely in
Speaker 4: left field on this. It's just that's where my brain
Speaker 4: has taking me on this journey.
Speaker 11: I feel you.
Speaker 16: I'm the same way.
Speaker 9: It's something They've got something up their.
Speaker 4: Sleeve, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, always yeah, dude, spirit animal.
Speaker 11: So I'm thinking that with that, what's gonna happen is
Speaker 11: when ship does pop off, it's not a matter of
Speaker 11: if it's at this point, it's a matter of wind.
Speaker 11: I thinking that when she hits the fan, that it's
Speaker 11: gonna be a lot more than what we think. There's
Speaker 11: gonna be a lot of different targeting sales that are
Speaker 11: not really walking together. That they're gonna end up trying
Speaker 11: to eat each other, but they're gonna try to take
Speaker 11: our forces out quick and that's and then it's gonna
Speaker 11: really get down to a lot like tribal uh skirmishes
Speaker 11: here and there back out in the woods, and all
Speaker 11: I personally don't I honestly don't want this to happen.
Speaker 11: I do not wish it for I happen but I
Speaker 11: think we're right on the cusp of it, and there
Speaker 11: at this point we're going full thought on it.
Speaker 2: Sucks. Yeah, I personally I don't see a civil war
Speaker 2: breaking out, dude, person only.
Speaker 4: I mean because it almost happened a few months ago. Dude.
Speaker 4: If Trump would have been assassinated in Butler, we would
Speaker 4: be in a civil.
Speaker 3: War right now.
Speaker 4: There's not even a fraction of a doubt on that.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that either. How awesome, How would you
Speaker 2: believe that?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 2: What would what would lead you to believe that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: I'm what, bro, we're talking before Trump took office, before
Speaker 4: he did these things where he's traps in the fucking
Speaker 4: dance lines of the Epstein Files, Before any of that,
Speaker 4: he was the hero. People had a messiah complex towards
Speaker 4: the motherfucker for the Republican Party.
Speaker 3: If he would have been.
Speaker 4: Killed publicly on national television, yeah, I don't see any
Speaker 4: option that wouldn't lead to extremist right wing conservative minded people,
Speaker 4: far right ultra conservatives taking up arms and fucking going
Speaker 4: ape shit, which would have in turn led to far
Speaker 4: left ultra liberals doing the exact same thing. And that
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been small skirmish here and there that would
Speaker 4: have led into everything. We were legitimately an inch or
Speaker 4: two away from an all out civil war not even.
Speaker 3: A year ago.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 2: People say that, I just I don't buy it because
Speaker 2: because JD. Vance would then be at the helm and JD.
Speaker 4: Vance did not have the amount of pull or love
Speaker 4: that Trump has had, nor would he ever.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, he would be still the most powerful man
Speaker 2: in the World's.
Speaker 9: Happened since Charlie's been shot.
Speaker 16: I mean, we'll do the world now, think about if
Speaker 16: but if Trump had been shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, maybe you'll
Speaker 2: get like a nice funeral service and a bunch of
Speaker 2: memorials and all that, But if fucking civil war breaking out,
Speaker 2: there's yes.
Speaker 4: I think you.
Speaker 3: I think you underplay the amount of extremism that we
Speaker 3: have in this country.
Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, let me ask you this. At both political parties, Uh,
Speaker 2: what percentage of each wing is extreme?
Speaker 3: I have no way of even quantifying that.
Speaker 2: Let's just say it's one percent on each side. So
Speaker 2: what do we have three hundred and sixty something million
Speaker 2: people in this country? One percent on each side? Bringing
Speaker 2: it up to two percent? Two percent of three hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty million, You can't really imagine that all of
Speaker 2: them would want to militarize. A lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of people are all bark and no bite, brother, and
Speaker 2: you know that definitely, way more now than there has
Speaker 2: ever been. All the leftists that are extremely anti gun,
Speaker 2: you think they're gonna want.
Speaker 9: To go to war.
Speaker 4: Most of the leftists that are anti gun wouldn't. But
Speaker 4: the leftists that are armed to the teeth, like not
Speaker 4: just saying Antifa, but multiple gang affiliated groups, multiple cartel
Speaker 4: affiliated groups, are extremely well armed.
Speaker 3: I don't mean they have ars, I mean they have rockets.
Speaker 2: We assume that the extremes make up such a large
Speaker 2: portion of people in this country, and it's just not
Speaker 2: the case.
Speaker 4: You understand that for a revolution to be successful, you
Speaker 4: only need ten percent, right it.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't even be a cunt hair of that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, for a civil war go ahead.
Speaker 12: I pulled out the agent out mass.
Speaker 11: It's all seven hundred It is seven hundred and twenty
Speaker 11: thousand people. If you go up to two percent of
Speaker 11: the three hundred and sixty million.
Speaker 3: Okay, that being said.
Speaker 2: Assuming that every one of the extremists are ready for war,
Speaker 2: rate now.
Speaker 3: I believe that the extremists.
Speaker 2: Are I think that it was still talking heads, Like, dude,
Speaker 2: do you really think that fucking Nick Fouentez would batten
Speaker 2: down that hatchet? No, No, a fucking machine on somewhere.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 4: Nick Fuintes is a talking head. He's he's got soft hands,
Speaker 4: it's got bitch hands, He's bitch made. We're not talking
Speaker 4: about him. I'm talking about the guys that are actually
Speaker 4: working militia groups right now. Do you know how many
Speaker 4: militias we have in this country? There's fifty in the
Speaker 4: state of Louisiana. You want to talk about Texas like
Speaker 4: and I'm not talking about uh, just guys that are
Speaker 4: overweight that used to serve that still want to do
Speaker 4: some training. I mean dudes that are actually doing training
Speaker 4: and maneuver and combined arms fire and things like this
Speaker 4: to prepare for an inevitable civil war. Do you realistically
Speaker 4: have any idea how many of those are operating currently?
Speaker 2: We live in a nation of squibs. It is not
Speaker 2: going to pop off. We are not the same men
Speaker 2: that we were back in the eighteen thirties. We are
Speaker 2: not the same men that we were back in the
Speaker 2: seventeen seventy five, seventeen seventy six, all the way leading
Speaker 2: up over here. We're not the men that came over
Speaker 2: and took the Indian land. We're not those hard motherfuckers anymore. Brother,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to tell you, everybody.
Speaker 3: Some of us still are Broer yars. Some of us
Speaker 3: still are.
Speaker 2: Some of us. Are you trying to say that if
Speaker 2: Trump got shot that you would have been included in
Speaker 2: on that civil war.
Speaker 4: I'm saying we probably would have accidentally been roped into it,
Speaker 4: whether we wanted to or not. I don't think you
Speaker 4: understand how a civil war really plays out in real life, dude.
Speaker 4: It's not something where it's like, oh, this little skirmish
Speaker 4: group is over here and doing these things, and that's
Speaker 4: miles away, that's not here. That's not how a civil
Speaker 4: war goes. And yeah, ten percent is for a revolution.
Speaker 4: You need a lot less to kickstart a civil war.
Speaker 4: Bro Think about this. World War One was started because
Speaker 4: a group of five dudes killed one guy.
Speaker 3: Let that one Marinade.
Speaker 2: When that was like nineteen twelve or some shit around.
Speaker 4: There, a little over one hundred years ago. Sure, but
Speaker 4: I will say that a lot of the people serving
Speaker 4: in the military right now and veterans who have just
Speaker 4: left two decades of actual warfare. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: all of them are just so put together in the head.
Speaker 4: I'm saying some of them are, and there are some
Speaker 4: of them that are very highly trained and very highly
Speaker 4: motivated that would do certain things. Bro Like it's not Yeah,
Speaker 4: a civil war is way more probable and way more likely,
Speaker 4: especially if Trump would have been assassinated. Then I think
Speaker 4: you're underplaying this like a motherfucker day.
Speaker 2: Where's the meetup? Is there a battleground somewhere that everybody's
Speaker 2: gonna meet up or what I mean?
Speaker 4: You know what you're in tech, Well, you're in Arizona.
Speaker 4: Now there are militia groups in Arizona as well, But
Speaker 4: you can just go online and find where these militia
Speaker 4: groups are meeting up at and go to one of
Speaker 4: their training things. They're very open to the public. It's
Speaker 4: not like secret societies. They want more members and.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 4: Vice has done articles on them. There's some the three percenters,
Speaker 4: the oath Keepers, every and those are just the two
Speaker 4: main ones that you hear of, but there are tons
Speaker 4: that would absolutely go Ham.
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine that happening.
Speaker 4: I wish I lived in the world that you live in, dude,
Speaker 4: I really.
Speaker 2: Do, Dude. I hate to say it. America is very
Speaker 2: pussified nowadays. Back in the back in the times World
Speaker 2: War One, world War two, there was no fucking air conditioning.
Speaker 2: There was, you know, ways of getting around really outside
Speaker 2: of you know, Fred Flintstone kind of cars and shit.
Speaker 4: And the best weapon you had in your cabinet was
Speaker 4: Paul Paul's old hunting rifle.
Speaker 11: That.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to say, I just we have way
Speaker 2: better guns now, dude. Live in a different day and age,
Speaker 2: and there might be a few skirmishes, but there's no
Speaker 2: way an entire nation is going to break out into
Speaker 2: a civil war. There's it's not going to happen. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. Because most people, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say all people, I don't even want to say
Speaker 2: most people. There's a lot of people don't give two
Speaker 2: flying fucks about politics, dude.
Speaker 4: They would if it affected their neighborhood and their state
Speaker 4: and their community. Some shit going down in DC, some
Speaker 4: mugging that happens to big balls. Most people don't care
Speaker 4: about that. The city of DC has got federal troops
Speaker 4: on it, they got the National Guard mobile. You know,
Speaker 4: most people, You're right, don't give a fuck about that
Speaker 4: until it reached which is their door, and it becomes
Speaker 4: a them problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even trying to say that if
Speaker 2: somebody came to my door that I would, you know,
Speaker 2: go run and hide like a scared little bitch. Obviously
Speaker 2: you got to hold your grounds and everything. But I
Speaker 2: will be the farthest from the front line on that,
Speaker 2: especially if Trump got shot, like you know, yeah, we
Speaker 2: prefer Trump to be up at the helm rather than
Speaker 2: the other two clowns. But to risk my life for
Speaker 2: somebody like that, no way.
Speaker 4: The front lines are not gonna be some pre designated grounds, dude.
Speaker 4: The front lines will become all over the place and
Speaker 4: nowhere at all.
Speaker 3: You won't know if you can trust your neighbor anymore.
Speaker 4: You won't know if you can trust the people on
Speaker 4: the road anymore, because there'll be so many random terrorist attacks.
Speaker 4: Just hypothetically speaking, dude pulls up on a motorcycle and
Speaker 4: just guns down your whole car because it doesn't like
Speaker 4: the bumper sticker you have that's the reality of this
Speaker 4: type of civil war. It's not gonna be some battleground
Speaker 4: in some distant state like Narnia that nobody ever lives in.
Speaker 4: It will be something that traverses all areas and walks
Speaker 4: of life.
Speaker 2: How many generations are we from or you know, past?
Speaker 2: I guess any kind of war breaking out on American soil.
Speaker 3: I mean, depending on what you call by a war.
Speaker 4: There's currently protests going on all over the country right now.
Speaker 4: Some of them are armed because of ice raids.
Speaker 2: I just think that, you know, back in those times,
Speaker 2: whenever those wars were popping off, it was a lot
Speaker 2: more common. You know, you would have the Civil War
Speaker 2: and an American Revolution and what you know, those people
Speaker 2: were battle hardened. It was common.
Speaker 4: Those are seventy five years apart from each other. What
Speaker 4: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is I'm talking about there has
Speaker 2: been generations since there has since there has been any
Speaker 2: kind of war on American soil.
Speaker 4: Pearl Harbor happened in nineteen forty two. That was an
Speaker 4: attack on our soil. Japanese troops did make landfall in
Speaker 4: Alaska in the forties, So I mean we're talking less
Speaker 4: than one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: So I'm talking about like an all out war everywhere
Speaker 2: on the land, not just some little tiny part.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: And that's that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Americans have become spoiled because we have two massive oceans
Speaker 4: that protect us from anybody that's a real adversee area
Speaker 4: of ours. We could talk about our southern border to Mexico,
Speaker 4: and yes, that's a problem. I get that. But for
Speaker 4: the longest time we have had the privilege of being
Speaker 4: isolated from any real enemy combatants. World War two took
Speaker 4: over and hit Europe hard as fuck, Southeast Asia hard
Speaker 4: as fuck. The American mainland was untouched except for Pearl
Speaker 4: Harbor and Alaska because we are so far away and
Speaker 4: logistically at that time, they didn't have the capabilities to
Speaker 4: come up here and slap box us.
Speaker 2: That's my entire point is that easy times have created
Speaker 2: soft men. All these keyboard warriors would not be there
Speaker 2: for the hard shit.
Speaker 4: It's not the keyboard warriors I'm worried about taking up arms, dude,
Speaker 4: it's the actual men who are about that smoke. And
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot more of them than
Speaker 4: you give a credit for. Look at the gun violence
Speaker 4: in New Orleans right now they are the nation's leader
Speaker 4: in murders, and that's for turf wars and gang violence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is there gonna be money to be
Speaker 2: made off of a civil war? There has to be
Speaker 2: a reason why.
Speaker 4: Ways, I don't know, always money to be made off
Speaker 4: of a cataclysm.
Speaker 2: Into the chat like I mean by individuals, not the government,
Speaker 2: the individuals. Do you think about that gang violence? Most
Speaker 2: of the time, it's over money, it's over drugs. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's something about I have lost this and I'm going
Speaker 2: to go get mines.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about that random ship pops off so hard
Speaker 4: that we have a state of national martial law, and
Speaker 4: you're no longer allowed to go to the store, you're
Speaker 4: no longer allowed to go to work, you're no longer
Speaker 4: allowed to go get gas in your car. How long
Speaker 4: do you think it will take before people start eating
Speaker 4: each other alive? And I don't mean like cannibalism. I
Speaker 4: mean legitimately they're stealing resources from their neighbors. Not some
Speaker 4: post apocalyptic shit, but on some real divisional lines are
Speaker 4: being drawn. It's us for versus them, and this, this
Speaker 4: and this, and it would spread like wildfire. Never mind
Speaker 4: the fact that there's random skirmishes popping off all over
Speaker 4: the place. And if you're not for us, then you're
Speaker 4: against us. How long do you actually think it would
Speaker 4: take before it becomes a U problem.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that it would get to that point.
Speaker 4: I give it two weeks, maybe two weeks before it
Speaker 4: becomes everybody problem.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I think that that's also worst
Speaker 2: case scenario.
Speaker 4: And I mean a civil war is worst case scenario, brother,
Speaker 4: like all one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, and that there won't be one.
Speaker 4: Well, that's kind of why I think Trump is putting
Speaker 4: troops in big cities right now. Maybe he's trying.
Speaker 2: To Ah, that's what he says. Anyway, go ahead, spirit animal.
Speaker 11: Not to disagree with you or to well, I guess
Speaker 11: I am disagreeing with you, but don't say that there
Speaker 11: won't be a civil war. If it does pop off,
Speaker 11: that would technically be our third.
Speaker 5: So at that, which is.
Speaker 11: The American Revolution and the American Civil War or the
Speaker 11: War between the States, for whichever one you prefer. And
Speaker 11: then this would hypothetical one quote unquote, since we're not
Speaker 11: in it yet.
Speaker 5: But I believe it while on the cups. That would
Speaker 5: be our third and.
Speaker 2: There has not been a modern one in over one
Speaker 2: hundred plus years.
Speaker 5: I want to say one hundred and sixty, but I
Speaker 5: could be wrong.
Speaker 11: That's plan one hundred and sixty because it ended in
Speaker 11: nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 5: So yeah, one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 2: You mean eighteen sixty five?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Bad.
Speaker 4: Have you have you ever been in a situation where
Speaker 4: you're living under martial law?
Speaker 11: Me?
Speaker 2: No, No, Jonathan, I don't think any of us have.
Speaker 4: My point, it only takes one call from the president
Speaker 4: to put us under martial law, and now it is
Speaker 4: a U problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean we can place a wager
Speaker 2: on it. How long do you want to put it?
Speaker 2: Do you want to go ten years, five years, three years,
Speaker 2: two years, twenty years? I mean, we can place a
Speaker 2: bed on it, and I will have throw some money
Speaker 2: up on it that it never happens.
Speaker 4: I'm hopeful that it doesn't happen at all. But it
Speaker 4: is on the Bingo card. Okay, so this year it's possible.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's probable. I'm saying that if more
Speaker 4: and more things continue down the path that they're on,
Speaker 4: it might be an inevitability. I am hoping and praying
Speaker 4: that I am wrong, Like I said, on all of
Speaker 4: these things. I'm hoping and praying that Trump doesn't put
Speaker 4: troops in big cities and all these things. I hope
Speaker 4: I'm wrong on that, But the writing is on the wall, man.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that cooler heads will prevail and that people
Speaker 4: will think about it long and hard and say, you
Speaker 4: know what, maybe we don't want that. Maybe as Americans,
Speaker 4: we should unite as a people rather than continue to
Speaker 4: let the media divide us to a point to where
Speaker 4: we hate our neighbors. Maybe we should be adults about it.
Speaker 4: I hope that that's the way that it goes. But
Speaker 4: you know, hopes only go so far, and I can
Speaker 4: only get so high on hopium.
Speaker 2: Dude, Well, I don't know. I mean, to be honest,
Speaker 2: the way I kind of look at the political system
Speaker 2: is that most people see it as their favorite NFL team,
Speaker 2: and that whenever push comes to shove, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot of people that would rather band together with
Speaker 2: their neighbors and not so much worried about fighting for
Speaker 2: good old Red or good old blue.
Speaker 4: You realized we had political riots not too terribly long ago.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm aware that what.
Speaker 4: Like dudes are getting drug out of their trucks and
Speaker 4: beaten in the streets because they had a Trump sticker
Speaker 4: on their trucks.
Speaker 3: She realized that was not long ago.
Speaker 2: Was that one hundred and eighty million people on each
Speaker 2: side that we're doing that or about you know a
Speaker 2: couple thousand?
Speaker 3: No, that was localized. But that's my point.
Speaker 4: What kind of crazy, cataclysmic event would it take to
Speaker 4: make that a national problem?
Speaker 2: So that happened, right, So that did happen. There were
Speaker 2: some kind of riots. Why didn't it break out even farther?
Speaker 2: What stopped it? Like what stopped a civil war from
Speaker 2: breaking out? Rate then?
Speaker 4: And there sir, police, and we weren't under martial law,
Speaker 4: so because people were armed and put a stop to it.
Speaker 2: So the police and the military. Wouldn't you trying to
Speaker 2: say that you believe that there could potentially be such
Speaker 2: a major civil war that it would be too much
Speaker 2: for the for the police, and too much for the
Speaker 2: military to even try and break up.
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that they would be a part of it.
Speaker 2: There's no fucking way.
Speaker 4: Dude, Okay, no way, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Hope I'm I mean, I mean, I yeah, I I
Speaker 2: just I can't see that. I mean, not that I'm
Speaker 2: some kind of psychic by any means, but I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I think they'll be a part of a thread.
Speaker 4: I think they'll be for lack of better words, and
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it'll be left versus right.
Speaker 3: Let's call it team A, Team B, and then Team C.
Speaker 4: I believe that the government or the military would be
Speaker 4: Team A, and they would be trying to calm down
Speaker 4: Team B and Team C. That's what I think would
Speaker 4: be more than probable.
Speaker 2: Maybe, White Boy Wizard, what are you thoughts, sir?
Speaker 17: I think that most of us that you know have
Speaker 17: the capabilities, whether it be you know, the nuts to
Speaker 17: do it or the means, the machinery that you know,
Speaker 17: the things you need for a civil war. I think
Speaker 17: though those of us that do have those things, like
Speaker 17: I don't, I'm with you.
Speaker 8: I don't think it would happen.
Speaker 17: There might be a bunch of leftists and bunch of
Speaker 17: crazy psycho fucks, but like they would all have to
Speaker 17: be armed and ready for fucking war, and they're not
Speaker 17: number one, number two, like a couple of them, see
Speaker 17: a couple of them go down and they're all gonna.
Speaker 8: Scatter like fucking you know whatever.
Speaker 17: None of them are about that shit, So I I
Speaker 17: don't think it'll ever happen either.
Speaker 2: I agree, and purple haired Karen with a fucking nose
Speaker 2: ring and a clip piercing is not going to go
Speaker 2: to fucking war after she was extremely pro abortion rights
Speaker 2: or whatever like that is not going to happen. What
Speaker 2: I'm saying is is that they're there's way too many
Speaker 2: fucking soft people out there that are speaking on behalf
Speaker 2: of the majority of the extreme.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about that person. You realize, like the
Speaker 4: cartel members who have real and I'm not talking about
Speaker 4: some street gang, not some thirteen year old drug pusher
Speaker 4: on the street. I mean the actual cartels that are
Speaker 4: operating in this country right now. You understand they are
Speaker 4: better equipped than your average military member. Now, they don't
Speaker 4: have the satellites and the drones and these types of things,
Speaker 4: but as far as like boots on the ground in
Speaker 4: real combat experience, you realize they would be pushing for
Speaker 4: the care inside of things, and they're not going to
Speaker 4: be some little pushover.
Speaker 2: Oh, they would be stupid if they wanted to team
Speaker 2: up with them.
Speaker 4: That's how it goes. Cotels are not siding with the
Speaker 4: right hot and the progressive, the conservatives.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm okay.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 5: Spirit animal also on it.
Speaker 11: If you listen to like the heads of like the
Speaker 11: politics over for the Arab world and all, they're talking
Speaker 11: about global ans and to fight. We have a we
Speaker 11: have military aged people here, the terrorists that across the border.
Speaker 11: What a year or two or maybe three years ago
Speaker 11: that said, y'all don't know my name, but you will soon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's over here.
Speaker 11: We got military aged Chinese and Russians over here. No
Speaker 11: offense to any of the good Russians and good Asians.
Speaker 5: I love y'all.
Speaker 11: But like the fucked up thing is, I don't just
Speaker 11: see American American. I'm seeing it as other interests going
Speaker 11: in and they're gonna try to carve out them out
Speaker 11: their territory and funck off.
Speaker 4: Oh no, absolutely. If America goes into a civil war,
Speaker 4: foreign actors will see that as a weak spot and
Speaker 4: they'll use that as their time to strike.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 11: And that's why I I really don't I love America.
Speaker 5: I love him the personally.
Speaker 11: I think America's best is the best country for everybody
Speaker 11: else's best.
Speaker 5: We should really just look after own careful.
Speaker 4: Now, Sam, you might get called a patriot, and that's
Speaker 4: a bad word to some people. Easy Now, I.
Speaker 11: Joined a death coat of the fucking military.
Speaker 5: Does that really not surprise you?
Speaker 4: Fucking raw?
Speaker 3: But anyway, I just.
Speaker 5: I love this country.
Speaker 11: I don't hell Even as much as I think they
Speaker 11: fucking retardet on the left, I still love them.
Speaker 5: They're my fellow countryman.
Speaker 11: I I just wish they'd find some damn common sense, agreed.
Speaker 4: I hope that I'm so wrong on every single claim
Speaker 4: that I've made in this whole, this whole tirade. I
Speaker 4: hope that I'm wrong, And I'm hoping that people can
Speaker 4: unify and be adults and come together and see the
Speaker 4: similarities between us rather than the differences. I really hope
Speaker 4: that that is the message in the vibe that prevails.
Speaker 4: And I would be so happy if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, I don't know. I don't like to
Speaker 2: live in worst case scenario. I know that it's good to,
Speaker 2: you know, be prepared for the worst and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but I'm not a big fan of fear.
Speaker 2: For fear's sake, and I think most of the time
Speaker 2: shit doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: I should I don't think we should be afraid of it,
Speaker 3: but also.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be afraid of dying because of a civil war.
Speaker 4: No, you shouldn't be afraid of a civil war, and
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be afraid of dying like, absolutely not. You
Speaker 4: should just be prepared for every you know, possibility, prepared.
Speaker 2: Spirit animals, said bomb Rips.
Speaker 3: For Dale.
Speaker 2: Joel said, these last two Biblical episodes are so fucking dope.
Speaker 2: There's see, I can get a compliment from time to time.
Speaker 2: Keep going, y'all need to do a weekly episode series
Speaker 2: dissecting a new part of the Bible. Problem is is Joel,
Speaker 2: that we are in the minority of that, and I'm
Speaker 2: not allowed to do that anymore because people don't a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't like it. As much as I
Speaker 2: love it, don't get me wrong. I love dissecting it
Speaker 2: and deconstructing it in ways, and but you know it's
Speaker 2: round it.
Speaker 4: Do it on metamistics.
Speaker 3: That's literally what the other show is for.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, dissecting all kinds of spiritual and
Speaker 4: religious books, right, M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, ohing out go for it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I was talking about wanting to do a Paul episode.
Speaker 3: I'm still down for that.
Speaker 4: But let's give it some time, right, Let's let it
Speaker 4: breathe a bit, give it a month or two. I
Speaker 4: would love to talk about the Christian versus Polistian viewpoints
Speaker 4: of it. I have a pastor who is actually in
Speaker 4: school achieving his doctorate in Biblical studies that I would
Speaker 4: love to have come in and break down how there
Speaker 4: isn't a difference between the two and we can. I'm down,
Speaker 4: but let.
Speaker 2: You know, let's there are people that couldn't stand fucking
Speaker 2: giants not being real. You think I'm gonna say and
Speaker 2: that's old Testament. You think I'm going to be the
Speaker 2: guy that says that everything that Paul said was fraudulent
Speaker 2: and forgery and bullshit. That was No, I'm not going there.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing about sure, I'm not even going to
Speaker 2: talk about it. We're going to talk about not religious
Speaker 2: things for quite a while.
Speaker 4: It's not that you said the giants are fake, it's
Speaker 4: that you said the stories from the Bible are myth
Speaker 4: and not reality.
Speaker 3: That is the insulting part to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: That one is myth, and so is the biblical flood
Speaker 2: is a myth. I this entire thing was a myth.
Speaker 4: No. No, I'm saying two stories from the Bible that
Speaker 4: you chose, you said that they were myth and not reality.
Speaker 4: To half of the world's population, that is an insult.
Speaker 2: How many times have you said that Jonah and the
Speaker 2: Well was a myth and not reality? Bring up the Nephilom.
Speaker 2: It's like fucking hailfire.
Speaker 3: I said that that is a theory that some are proposing.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that believe that that is
Speaker 4: a literal story that happened exactly as it is in
Speaker 4: the Bible. There are some people that point out fallacies
Speaker 4: within it. I'm not saying one way or another, honestly.
Speaker 2: Look, my point is is that if you're going to
Speaker 2: have absolute blind faith that there was a massive arc
Speaker 2: from a nine hundred year old man built to house
Speaker 2: at minimum twenty eight hundred animals for what two weeks
Speaker 2: more than a year, and you believe that he was
Speaker 2: inspired by God and all the animals listen to God,
Speaker 2: then what is dissuading you from believing that a man
Speaker 2: lived inside the fucking mouth of a whale.
Speaker 4: And again, twenty eight percent of the world's population is Christian,
Speaker 4: twenty percent of the world is Muslim. Right now, we're
Speaker 4: at forty eight percent. I guarantee at least two percent
Speaker 4: of the world is Jewish, so we are talking about
Speaker 4: half of the actual population of the entire fucking world.
Speaker 4: Believe everything that you just said is true.
Speaker 2: I'm asking you a question, how could you have so
Speaker 2: much faith? It's something so impossible such as I'm not
Speaker 2: even gonna touch on the Nephilim, something so impossible such
Speaker 2: as Noah's arc, But yet a guy living in a
Speaker 2: whale's mouth is a step too far.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it is fake.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that it's very possible that a miraculous thing happened,
Speaker 4: like literally, God put his hand down and made this
Speaker 4: shit take place, and it happened exactly as it is written.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that's very possible in my belief system.
Speaker 2: Spirit animal, go hit, sir.
Speaker 12: I'm to be fair.
Speaker 11: I do take the babble added toward Boston, and there's
Speaker 11: deeper meaning in it. I I think that with the
Speaker 11: that when the Great flood, the the flood of Noah,
Speaker 11: what happened was that God, that God just said, hmm.
Speaker 11: He pretty much reached his hands in down and he
Speaker 11: hailed it, and he took out, he dropped the waters
Speaker 11: from the farntament and every thing, and it flooded up,
Speaker 11: and it flooded the world. I believe, I legitimately believe that, yes,
Speaker 11: he built a boat. Though do I think that the
Speaker 11: nine hundred years as until we are. I believe that
Speaker 11: that's going on the blind faith because boy, it says
Speaker 11: that he shall take that his uh, he shall take
Speaker 11: remove a spirit from within man, and the man shall
Speaker 11: not live more than one hundred twenty years. Scientifically, if
Speaker 11: we have perfect detox and and we were designed to
Speaker 11: live like one hundred and twenty years, what most of
Speaker 11: what kills us is our diet at poisoning farm, our.
Speaker 12: Of because we fucked up our right.
Speaker 11: If we would have drank from the water, ate from
Speaker 11: the land, and I believe the first year didn't fucket
Speaker 11: environment up, yeah, we would have been living a whole
Speaker 11: lot longer. And it's been said that the earth is
Speaker 11: starting to move faster, So that just goes to show, yes,
Speaker 11: that things, if the things tend the line up, and
Speaker 11: the fact that.
Speaker 2: They so so so humans lifespan was shortened because Nepholom
Speaker 2: came down it.
Speaker 11: Well, yes, and I understand what you're saying earlier, because
Speaker 11: it's the daughter's not the actual guys. Well, you gotta
Speaker 11: keep in mind, why do like how do our the
Speaker 11: how are more men are born? We come from the
Speaker 11: mother and not just it's not it has been more
Speaker 11: than once, at least twice, the bloodline of Jesus was
Speaker 11: secured through a woman's womb.
Speaker 4: So don't to your point of Jonathan, I don't think
Speaker 4: that nephialem are the reason why our lifespan was shortened.
Speaker 4: But I think that uh like, I don't think that
Speaker 4: was necessarily a causation for the other. I think that
Speaker 4: human wickedness was the cause for the one twenty and
Speaker 4: Nephalom were a separate thing but also tied into human wickedness,
Speaker 4: so they're connected, but not a causation for one versus
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's your belief. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: try and disuade you from it. Joel, what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts there?
Speaker 18: Oh man, I was just gonna say, like, I think,
Speaker 18: since it's is like the cult of conspiracy and everything,
Speaker 18: I think that a healthy questioning of everything should be
Speaker 18: discussed on the show. You know, it doesn't matter like
Speaker 18: whether it's the Bible of the Koran Mormons. I mean,
Speaker 18: we're pretty quick on this episode on this show to
Speaker 18: talk question and they sect the Mormon Book and everything,
Speaker 18: like in that book is supposed to be like, oh,
Speaker 18: what do you believe in that stuff? That's crazy? But
Speaker 18: I don't know, I don't think those I don't like
Speaker 18: the fact that we're questioning the Bible too in that
Speaker 18: regard to you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times do we have Heidi Love
Speaker 2: on and just completely ripping apart the Mormon Church and
Speaker 2: like we're not worried about the Mormons feelings about it,
Speaker 2: but all of a sudden, somebody starts attacking the Old
Speaker 2: Testament and you know what I mean, like everybody's up
Speaker 2: in arms, like we didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just has the hypocritical half the world doesn't acknowledge
Speaker 4: the Book of Mormon to be factual. Literally one denomination
Speaker 4: of so called Christians does and it was written by
Speaker 4: known con Man. There's a there's a there's a difference there.
Speaker 2: I mean, con Man is no, no like Joseph Smith
Speaker 2: was kicked out of multiple states because he was conning
Speaker 2: people he had an insurance fraud scam.
Speaker 4: Like he was a legitimate fraud in con man. Like
Speaker 4: that's that's not like a turn of phrase for him.
Speaker 3: He was arrested for it.
Speaker 2: White Boy Wizard said, I was just pitching y'all some shit.
Speaker 2: I'll listen to every episode no matter what the two
Speaker 2: of you argue over.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, dog, you a real one.
Speaker 2: Spirit animal decided to chime in with some of the
Speaker 2: greatest philosophy ever written down when he said bahadbah de
Speaker 2: bang to bang Diggy. Diggy Diggy said a boody set
Speaker 2: up chop the boogie. Now, I he didn't write that
Speaker 2: in there, but I knew where he was going.
Speaker 4: Indeed, from the from the Great Warrior poet Kid.
Speaker 2: Rock Yeah good Uh. Ashton puts psyop September aliens Jesus
Speaker 2: some kind of fox.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: What is the pink and blue and white flag stand for?
Speaker 8: Again?
Speaker 4: Is that trans?
Speaker 2: Is that a trans flag?
Speaker 3: I can't see which picture you looking at here?
Speaker 2: It has Jesus an alien looks like maybe God bearded God.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the fox is about I don't.
Speaker 4: See the image on my end? Is this Ashton posted it?
Speaker 2: Yeah at nine twenty nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the picture's not showing up on my end. I
Speaker 4: just see a blank box.
Speaker 2: Okay, spirit animal posted ATF holding a gun up against
Speaker 2: a what seems to be a poodle. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: says your doorstep at three twenty am. Enjoy long barrels
Speaker 2: on your guns and walks on your property, love language,
Speaker 2: no knock raids, cat person. I hate dogs. Like to
Speaker 2: cuddle up next to a warm compound fire full of
Speaker 2: screaming women and children.
Speaker 4: Jesus, Yeah, that's the ATF for you. They historically speaking,
Speaker 4: really do not fuck with dogs.
Speaker 2: But anyway, then you have petocillin with your bullets inside
Speaker 2: of a inside of a.
Speaker 4: Love it model. I think that that is an excellent
Speaker 4: medication for these uh just discussing animals anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, white boy, was it said?
Speaker 11: Oi?
Speaker 2: Fucking Nora? Is here?
Speaker 4: A No?
Speaker 2: I think she dipped out by the way.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, we're a little oh next one, Joel said.
Speaker 4: The fake rapture has been rescheduled for next week. Did
Speaker 4: y'all hearll look up on TikTok. Yeah, So let's talk
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: Uh kick that can down the road.
Speaker 4: They've been doing it for a while, doing me wrong.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, these people think that they've gained
Speaker 4: some insight that no scholar who's been reading the exact
Speaker 4: same book has gained for thousands of years. But all
Speaker 4: of a sudden they figured it out because TikTok and
Speaker 4: Instagram said so it's wild to me, but let's dive
Speaker 4: in that one chick Romans nine through eleven that was
Speaker 4: on there she has. I was hoping, hoping that she
Speaker 4: would maybe put out a retraction apology video, some kind
Speaker 4: of way of being like, you know what, guys, I
Speaker 4: was wrong and I'm sorry about this whatever.
Speaker 3: She's ghosted.
Speaker 4: She has a band in the account. There have been
Speaker 4: hundreds of accounts on Instagram and TikTok that have shut
Speaker 4: down because they were wrong about the rapture. And it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, you could just be an adult and acknowledge, like, hey,
Speaker 4: I was wrong. There's a few, by the way that
Speaker 4: have absolutely come out and said, listen, y'all, I wasn't
Speaker 4: trying to grift. I truly, in my heart of hearts,
Speaker 4: believed that this was going to take place.
Speaker 3: I was wrong and if people.
Speaker 2: Were selling their cars, selling their ass is, giving away
Speaker 2: their money, giving away their children.
Speaker 3: You heard about that.
Speaker 4: This one woman put three of her children in foster
Speaker 4: care because she knew that she was gonna go up
Speaker 4: in the rapture and had no faith that her children
Speaker 4: were going to Now she's fighting the state to get
Speaker 4: them back, and they're like.
Speaker 3: No, bitch, you're not getting these fucking kids back.
Speaker 4: Fuck you, are you?
Speaker 2: Is that a real story?
Speaker 4: I swear on my children's fucking souls, that's a real story.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what make so think if you give
Speaker 2: up your children because you just know you're going to
Speaker 2: be sucked on up by the heavens. Bro Dude, that's
Speaker 2: that's pass backwards.
Speaker 4: Do you understand that your children will be taken up too,
Speaker 4: because they're under the age of ignorance?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're years old.
Speaker 2: If there's ever going to be a rapture, children are
Speaker 2: most likely to go.
Speaker 4: No, I promise you they're going to Like it's not
Speaker 4: even like a hypothetical.
Speaker 3: This is a fact.
Speaker 4: When that takes place anybody under the age of thirteen
Speaker 4: and by some account sixteen, we can get into which
Speaker 4: one is the real whatever. My point is, children are
Speaker 4: going to be taken up. They are still within what's
Speaker 4: called the age of ignorance.
Speaker 3: They are fine.
Speaker 4: And this woman who claims that she's such a Biblical
Speaker 4: follower that she knows she's gonna go up didn't even
Speaker 4: know that fucking point and has the balls to come
Speaker 4: at the state saying I need my kids back. I
Speaker 4: was wrong, and he's trying to take legal action against
Speaker 4: the states.
Speaker 2: Like, no, bitch, you abandon could you I imagine the
Speaker 2: relationship that those kids are going to have with the
Speaker 2: mutter with looking forward?
Speaker 4: They're fucked and she can go fuck herself. No, So yes,
Speaker 4: to your point, there are some people that took it
Speaker 4: really seriously, and there's this is my problem. This is
Speaker 4: my problem with social media, and this is why I
Speaker 4: don't fuck with it, because there's too many fucking retards
Speaker 4: out there, Jonathan, There's too many. It's not even the
Speaker 4: minority anymore. It seems like it used to be. It
Speaker 4: used to be that like five ten percent of people
Speaker 4: on the Internet that were just out of their fucking minds.
Speaker 4: That number has grown to a level that I honestly
Speaker 4: could not even make fuck a rough guestimation of how
Speaker 4: many of these people are out of their fucking minds,
Speaker 4: and it's just it's not good for the mental health
Speaker 4: to be on the social media for very long. I understand.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that all social.
Speaker 4: Media is evil, not taking that stance. I'm saying the
Speaker 4: people that live on it, it's it. I feel like
Speaker 4: it actually kills brain cells, like airs, cognitive dissidence to
Speaker 4: being that attached to the phone.
Speaker 2: Bro Yeah, I could say a lot more about that,
Speaker 2: but anyway, spirit animal, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 11: All I know is that just broke my fucking heart.
Speaker 11: I hope that bitch walk takes a long ass fucking
Speaker 11: walk off a short budge.
Speaker 4: She was hoping she was gonna get taken up in
Speaker 4: the rapture and I bet now she's on the bandwagon
Speaker 4: for next week.
Speaker 11: No ill straight and he'll go past go straight to
Speaker 11: get hell. Don't go past go do not click two
Speaker 11: hundred dollars to get fucked hunt.
Speaker 4: And there were some content careers that came out and said, listen, y'all,
Speaker 4: I was wrong. I wasn't trying to grift you, I
Speaker 4: wasn't trying to fuck with you. I truly believed this,
Speaker 4: and I am sorry, and if I caused any pain
Speaker 4: or any kind of panic that is on me, and
Speaker 4: I'm sorry and mad respect to those ones that can
Speaker 4: at least acknowledge it.
Speaker 13: Dude.
Speaker 2: There are people that were live on zoom like zoom calls,
Speaker 2: waiting for this rapture to happen, so much so that
Speaker 2: they were watching the the seconds tick down. It was
Speaker 2: eleven fifty nine PM on the day of the rapture.
Speaker 2: They just knew that it was happening in the final
Speaker 2: minute and you can see it literally, they're just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know it's coming, I know it. I'm like, you
Speaker 2: are so special and you pointed at and laughed at
Speaker 2: like no offense.
Speaker 12: But they're fucking dumbasses. They ain't no obviously.
Speaker 11: They never read the book, the Good Book, because it
Speaker 11: tells him, no man, not even the angels in Heaven
Speaker 11: knows when that when Jesus will come back.
Speaker 12: When you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They they here's what happened. They watched this is the
Speaker 2: end of time too many and they took it literal.
Speaker 11: Wevoked their passes for the blessed of spirit. Animal does
Speaker 11: not approve. Get fucked, y'all can't smoke no more.
Speaker 4: It's it's so we'll see Hey, Hey, you know what,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe Jonathan, we're wrong. Maybe the rapture is happening
Speaker 4: next week, and we will we will feel so fucking
Speaker 4: dumb in a few days. Who fucking knows. I just,
Speaker 4: you know, even being are the resident Christian of this
Speaker 4: of this fandangled experiment we're calling a podcast here, I
Speaker 4: just I feel in my heart of hearts that that
Speaker 4: is just incorrect.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. If there's a rapture that's gonna happen,
Speaker 2: you ain't got nothing to worry about. I'm the one
Speaker 2: that does so.
Speaker 4: But I'm not. I don't fear any of that shit.
Speaker 4: It's it's an inevitability. If it happens, it happens. If
Speaker 4: you're like not right, then you need to get right.
Speaker 4: That's I'm not saying that at you. I'm saying that
Speaker 4: in general.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, anyway, the believers wouldn't need to get right,
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying, Joel said, Jonathan, you should do
Speaker 2: a deep dive esoteric research episode to see if Kirk
Speaker 2: was a ritualistic sacrifice based on jamat or gum matria
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. No disrespect to Kirk, ri Ip
Speaker 2: Charlie he was.
Speaker 3: The Masonic King Thy three ritual, remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of touched on that in
Speaker 2: a couple of episodes. As a matter of fact, I
Speaker 2: was looking at actually, I think it was the last
Speaker 2: live that we did where I was bringing up the
Speaker 2: strange memorial date and about how it happened on the
Speaker 2: day of an eclipse, and it was also on the
Speaker 2: Autumn equinoc like the day before the autumn equinox, and
Speaker 2: a bunch of and what was it, fucking Saturn was
Speaker 2: in opposition or some shit. It was like pretty crazy. Yeah, So,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't doubt it. They're occultists, like one
Speaker 2: hundred percent they are. Midnight cong said, I think maybe
Speaker 2: they took him out because they couldn't control him.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Spared Animals said, I blame Hassan bin Laden Diddy Piker.
Speaker 4: I like it, and I'm not gonna blame Hassan Piker
Speaker 4: for the death, but I am gonna blame Hassan Piker
Speaker 4: for the radical left going into the direction that they have,
Speaker 4: but not just him, like specifically, yes, but there are
Speaker 4: so many more than just him. He's God, He's annoying
Speaker 4: as fuck.
Speaker 2: Steve said, I haven't heard anybody other than Candace even
Speaker 2: mentioned the hatch in the ground. Did you see that?
Speaker 2: I didn't know. So there was a hatch in the ground.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything about it, honestly.
Speaker 2: Said over eight hundred generals in one room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty wild.
Speaker 2: Spiritaneld said, I got my war acts and war club.
Speaker 2: If people want to get froggy. Unfortunately I can't re enlist,
Speaker 2: but I can take to the woods and and the
Speaker 2: creek and swamp. They won't find me.
Speaker 4: You know. I would have said that's true until they
Speaker 4: came out with these drones. That was my plan if
Speaker 4: push came to shove and a civil war broke out,
Speaker 4: like I was gonna get a boat, which there's tons
Speaker 4: of them in Louisiana, and I was gonna go deep, deep,
Speaker 4: deep deep into the Bayou where nobody could find me,
Speaker 4: and I was just gonna live off the land until
Speaker 4: it all settled out.
Speaker 8: Yo.
Speaker 4: Drones killed that possibility. There's there's nowhere that you can
Speaker 4: go other than underground where they can't find you.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing I plan on trying to get.
Speaker 11: So hypothetically, I may or may not know my Papa
Speaker 11: may or may not booby trap something step outs out
Speaker 11: yonder and I know where things are.
Speaker 5: Also know that there's a that.
Speaker 11: He did dug him a a bunker down under that.
Speaker 5: My papa was cocaine cowboy back then day, So.
Speaker 4: Better stay away from copper Head Road.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm here right now.
Speaker 11: Fuck yeah, yeah he was. You gotta keep in mind
Speaker 11: this man got shot and stabbed one night and went
Speaker 11: to bed, and my grandmother boke his ass up in
Speaker 11: the morning when she woke up and all the blood
Speaker 11: and drove his ass to the hospital.
Speaker 5: My papa did not give a fuck. There's a reason
Speaker 5: why my family can't go back to Texas.
Speaker 4: I feel like the song copper Head Road might have
Speaker 4: been based off of your family line, my boy. I
Speaker 4: don't know that for a fact, but it just sounds
Speaker 4: more and more likely. Jonathan, you know the song correct.
Speaker 2: The boots coutin song, sir, it is it is.
Speaker 3: There's a dance that goes along with it.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, man, I've heard that song way too
Speaker 2: many times over the Texas club.
Speaker 4: You know it, then you know the stump. You know
Speaker 4: how it goes with that song. But do I tell
Speaker 4: you what, that's a whole vibe. Also, especially you ain't
Speaker 4: hurt it in a while. You had a bar, you
Speaker 4: having a couple of beers, and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you hear fucking bagpipes starts screaming over the two over
Speaker 4: the speakers, and you know, damn good and well with
Speaker 4: tom it is. You see every fucking country boy in
Speaker 4: the place, just like they already know.
Speaker 3: It's that coppyhead room boy. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 5: Funny enough. My papa actually did have a big buck Dodge.
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, he also had a Cadillac, and the day
Speaker 11: he died, the cat the Cadillac never uh picked up again.
Speaker 11: It never done nothing. You don't matter if you put
Speaker 11: a new battery and you startling nothing. My papa doesn't
Speaker 11: took that bitch to heaven.
Speaker 2: Damn of a big black Dodge. So tomorrow is because
Speaker 2: I you know, obviously, I just recently moved out to Arizona.
Speaker 2: I don't have a vehicle because I left mine in Texas,
Speaker 2: and so I was looking around to try and find
Speaker 2: a decent vehicle out here to drive. Dude, I found
Speaker 2: a sweet like two thousand and three Ford Ranger, and oh,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about going to go get that bad boy,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna call them Tommy.
Speaker 4: Is that a is a standard automatic? Probably automatic?
Speaker 13: And No.
Speaker 2: Three, I don't know how to drive a standard.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: We gotta fix this.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: One of these days.
Speaker 4: We've talked about it before, we're gonna fix it. But
Speaker 4: but yo, I'm telling you my my Ford Ranger ninety
Speaker 4: four Ford Ranger Standard was my first truck, my first car.
Speaker 4: That thing was a road dog or named a Roshita.
Speaker 4: She was a hood rat and she never did me dirty.
Speaker 4: She never left me on the side of the road
Speaker 4: one time. We've been through some shit. Oh yeah, Well,
Speaker 4: I have a love for Ford Rangers.
Speaker 2: My very first car was a like a Mazda B
Speaker 2: four thousand or whatever it was, can be very similar
Speaker 2: to a Ford Ranger in S ten or something like that.
Speaker 2: I love that thing.
Speaker 4: Great little trucks, man, they do enough truck shit to
Speaker 4: where they're useful, but they're not so truck like to
Speaker 4: where you can really get yourself fucked up. It's it's
Speaker 4: just great, a little fur banger.
Speaker 2: It's got the extended bed on it. Tom I'm excited.
Speaker 4: Whoa, that's what's up?
Speaker 2: But Tony said South African suspicious suicide in Paris today.
Speaker 2: I'll read this real quick. South Africa's ambassador to France
Speaker 2: not the thefth while he died after falling from a
Speaker 2: twenty second floor of a pair from the twenty second
Speaker 2: floor of a Paris hotel today, dude says. Prosecutors say
Speaker 2: his room's sealed window had been forced open. Footage of
Speaker 2: him speaking at a student event in for Palestine, and
Speaker 2: we're not gonna watch it because he's speaking another language, but.
Speaker 4: Speaking for Palestine or on behalf. Yeah, yeah, France has
Speaker 4: a real issue with their Muslim population right now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think that was a suicide, definitely not.
Speaker 2: It just didn't know that it was from the twenty
Speaker 2: second It's always some kind of double digit, you know
Speaker 2: number like that, the twenty second floor, the thirty third floor,
Speaker 2: the one hundred and forty fourth floor. It's always something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: You know, God, that's wild. Okay, that's I'm pulling matter.
Speaker 4: If I don't pull that arcle up so I could
Speaker 4: read more. Oh, it's an X Okay, all right, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna google that shit later.
Speaker 2: Steve said they're also boosting numbers at the southern border thankfully, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they absolutely are. Kyl said digital ID is fucked in
Speaker 2: the UK.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Spirit Animals said, uh, before Britain does a digital ID,
Speaker 2: they need to take their island back.
Speaker 3: You know, they really do.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna try to use the digital ID as
Speaker 4: a way to take their country back. And again I
Speaker 4: see what they're trying to do, but man, that's not
Speaker 4: gonna go well in like two administrations away from where
Speaker 4: they're at right now.
Speaker 19: It's yeah, yeah, Buddy Goods, Sam, how the hell do
Speaker 19: you go from being a fucking well dominating empire to
Speaker 19: act like I wanna be bitch that's getting the ass beat?
Speaker 5: Make it make sense.
Speaker 4: How do you take over the whole world for their
Speaker 4: spice trade and learn how to use none of it
Speaker 4: in your local cuisine? Listen, Britain just be doing British shit.
Speaker 4: I can't make heads or tails of it.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 11: I cannot help the fact that they still eat like
Speaker 11: the fucking blitz cuiak is still going on.
Speaker 2: I can't help that.
Speaker 12: But they can go.
Speaker 11: They can reach down, they can take their hands, reach
Speaker 11: down their pants, grab the nuts to see if they're
Speaker 11: still there, and fight for the fucking country.
Speaker 2: One doesn't mean simply wanna be bitch one simply just
Speaker 2: bees bitch.
Speaker 4: I mean like seriously looking at their that's for everything else,
Speaker 4: Like they their big thing is like a British stew,
Speaker 4: which like there's tons of stews around the world. That's
Speaker 4: not in That's not like a crazy good thing that
Speaker 4: you have that no one else has. Fish and chips,
Speaker 4: bro I would rather fried sacale and fries over British
Speaker 4: fish and chips every day. That's not even that's not
Speaker 4: a fucking contest. It's yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Popping Goes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, Popping Goes doesn't sell fried sacale. They do catfish,
Speaker 4: which is good. But I gotta say I prefer sacale
Speaker 4: over catfish if given the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Dude, just like that they're sacking it.
Speaker 4: That's fine, No, it's it's or also called a white
Speaker 4: perch in other sections of the country. In Louisiana Cajun
Speaker 4: French sacale means technically it's sack of milk or a
Speaker 4: bag of milk or something like that because of their
Speaker 4: their white you know, bodies and everything. But dude, just
Speaker 4: as far as eating fish is concerned, think of a catfish,
Speaker 4: think of the best catfish flea you've ever had in
Speaker 4: your life.
Speaker 3: Now think of it being twice as thick in twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's frozen. He froze on twice.
Speaker 12: It is because he's don't speak French.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not his strong suit anyhow, spirit animal, you said,
Speaker 2: there is a captain who is running for Congress who
Speaker 2: is telling active members to disobey orders and go against
Speaker 2: their oath.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So, oh, I can't remember his name, and I feel
Speaker 11: like a dumb ass. But I was scrolling on a.
Speaker 5: La tikety talk he was starting. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: oh how he worked in like.
Speaker 11: Fuck, I can't remember what he said, but he was
Speaker 11: up like doing a sad command I want to say
Speaker 11: and everything.
Speaker 5: Oh boy, he was talking about you.
Speaker 11: You know that he can't do this, that you have
Speaker 11: to stand up against this tyrannical fascism.
Speaker 5: I just thrown out those birds words.
Speaker 11: And then he said, and I'm learning for I'm running
Speaker 11: for I'm the Democratic candidate for running for Congress for
Speaker 11: his district.
Speaker 5: I can't remember with district, but he was.
Speaker 11: Saying, do not follow your orders and you took an
Speaker 11: oaths and everything and that.
Speaker 5: But I put like when I saw the video.
Speaker 11: I was like, yeah, you're s owes to the Constitution
Speaker 11: and what you're what you're.
Speaker 5: Saying is traitorous.
Speaker 11: And it just that I feel like that people don't
Speaker 11: take the don't take oaths as sacred and solomon as
Speaker 11: they should anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this man is only as good as his word.
Speaker 2: That might have been the adage of old, but I
Speaker 2: think in today's world, you know, I don't know about
Speaker 2: that so much. Jacob said, I just had a power blip.
Speaker 2: I'll be back when my router reboots. Okay, um to
Speaker 2: do uh spirit animals? Said Nick is a Viking Arthur Morgan. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: Nick's beard thick. I was like, I just saw you
Speaker 2: like two weeks ago. You didn't even have any facial hair,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you look like fucking you're
Speaker 2: about to go pillage of village? Um going on?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is Roy still in here? I think dumb fury or
Speaker 2: dumb furry a k A skunky, said Jonathan, brushing his beard.
Speaker 2: You going, really, you're going to really grow it out,
Speaker 2: You've been saying for years. Yeah, I am, I am.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on it. I'm working on it now
Speaker 2: only because Jacob has been calling me out for it
Speaker 2: because I always say that I'm gonna grow it out
Speaker 2: longer than him, and then you know, I don't. I
Speaker 2: want to chop it off, but I don't care how
Speaker 2: itchy it gets. Dude, I'm going full on Gandolf and
Speaker 2: Jacob give it like not even six months, and I
Speaker 2: will be known as the beard of this show, Okay,
Speaker 2: if I have any say so about it. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm going there. I don't know. I might not be
Speaker 2: able to grow a beard as long as I him,
Speaker 2: because he can grow a fucking long beard. Good for him,
Speaker 2: Tony said. Catholicism has the seven Dutero Canonicals, and the
Speaker 2: Greeks and Ethiopians have a few more. These were written
Speaker 2: in Greek and have a lot of Greek influence, most
Speaker 2: notably belief in immortal souls prayers for the dead, which
Speaker 2: were condemned by old Yahwism. Yeah, the Dutero canonical is
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Oh my god, Greta Thunberry. That's awesome. I'm
Speaker 2: Nigel Thornber. That was one of my favorite shows growing up.
Speaker 5: I actually thought she looks more like the little brother.
Speaker 11: Uh, the thing that the brother acts more like the
Speaker 11: ape than the actual ape.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the little crazy the little crazy one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bastard.
Speaker 2: I always say that that's what my son's. My son
Speaker 2: looks and acts like that crazy little bastard from Wild Dornberries.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. Donny is No, Donnie was
Speaker 2: the monkey. No, that was Darwin Darwin. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess it was Donnie.
Speaker 4: Huh dude, but yeah, sorry about that. Joe, I had
Speaker 4: a crazy power blip just now I cut out.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, uh Joe from Australia from down on
Speaker 2: to mate said hello again from down on the late
Speaker 2: Joanna today, bless you. Oh you just had.
Speaker 4: That was a I don't think that was an Australian accent.
Speaker 4: That was a that was something.
Speaker 2: Well tell me if this works for Australian, as he
Speaker 2: posted in the chat, good hey cunts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey you go. You're Australian. You could say that
Speaker 4: word with no issue in America.
Speaker 3: Good God. That can get people canceled.
Speaker 2: I mean they're they're a good cunt, they're a bad Yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody's a cunt.
Speaker 4: You could be a sick cunt, you could be a
Speaker 4: bad cunt. Know, there's there's ways you could say it
Speaker 4: in Britain, Ireland, Australia, in America. Good god, they come
Speaker 4: after your fucking livelihood for that ship.
Speaker 8: Dude.
Speaker 2: It was half the reason why I love that TV
Speaker 2: show called The Boys. Yes, I was just using cunt
Speaker 2: every other word. It was awesome, It's.
Speaker 4: Great, it's it's one of my favorite, if not my
Speaker 4: favorite word in the English language. But again, America, they
Speaker 4: just decided that's a bad one.
Speaker 2: You Joe said. I'm sure you guys haven't heard. But
Speaker 2: in Australia right now, the news is covered with one
Speaker 2: story about a man who was raided by ten police
Speaker 2: officers in his country home. He managed to shoot two
Speaker 2: of them and somehow run into the bushes survived over
Speaker 2: four weeks so far in our sub zero degree bushland.
Speaker 2: Many conspiracies surrounding.
Speaker 3: How did he have a gun.
Speaker 4: Or was he a sovereign citizen type, because Australia's got
Speaker 4: that kind of vibe right now. The sovereign citizen conversation
Speaker 4: came from America, then went to a couple of different
Speaker 4: English speaking countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a potato.
Speaker 4: You shot two cops with a potato gun, and like
Speaker 4: that's impressive that your reload time is that quick. I
Speaker 4: don't know how many potato guns you shot in your life,
Speaker 4: but it takes a little longer than that.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I love those things. Spirit animal. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't even know why. There's no need to even ask
Speaker 2: if you've ever had a potato gun, and it is
Speaker 2: clearly obvious that you have, sir.
Speaker 12: I mean.
Speaker 11: So hypothetically there was one made in B and P.
Speaker 12: While I was there. Hypothetically I could see it.
Speaker 3: The best one we ever made was actually my little
Speaker 3: brother made it.
Speaker 4: He used a barbecue igniter button, oh yeah, to be
Speaker 4: the ignition source. The little You just take the wires
Speaker 4: really close together, you loaded up, and when you slap
Speaker 4: that button.
Speaker 12: It's great. I sorry, hypothetic. It may have been set up.
Speaker 11: Along as a long a Raiders cs NERF gun as
Speaker 11: the the stark and the hand grip, but just gripping
Speaker 11: the full grip was was used, and it may or
Speaker 11: may not have been launched up with empty beer cans.
Speaker 4: Cans too, you see, you know.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Also that night the Spartan helmet on ah in second
Speaker 11: Battalion of Parasolan Ghetto.
Speaker 12: It got moved.
Speaker 4: Damn uh, second Battalion, So that's wild.
Speaker 12: Yeah. Uh, you know the trailers behind Second Battalion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in that trailer, the closest to the
Speaker 3: chow hall.
Speaker 4: That was my trailer.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 11: That's where our BNP goat put and the drawn in
Speaker 11: structure is kind of pissed off them, pissed off, pissed
Speaker 11: us off, so that thing got moved.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you got away with the majority
Speaker 4: of your stories at boot camp. You and I had very, very.
Speaker 12: Just as after I graduated.
Speaker 4: Mmmm, that's true, you said, And yeah.
Speaker 12: And uh what made the funniest?
Speaker 11: I had a tattoo gun in B and P and
Speaker 11: the My, Uh.
Speaker 3: How how the fuck did you get a tattoo gun?
Speaker 11: You can make them the easy, but I just went.
Speaker 11: I went off basin get bought. When it came back
Speaker 11: on base, I.
Speaker 4: Was say, you made a prison tattoo gun, but you
Speaker 4: went and bought it.
Speaker 12: Okay, okay, but I have made a prison tattoo gun in DM.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you did. Sam good Lord.
Speaker 2: Kyle said, uh. Talking about Charlie, Kirk said, for sure,
Speaker 2: he's a martyr now. Spirit animal said, Lie. Charlie's death
Speaker 2: broke my heart. That ship still hurts hand Kyle said
Speaker 2: that security guard is suss as fuck. I agree. Spirit
Speaker 2: Animal said, I'm gonna fly the black flag. I'm fighting
Speaker 2: for Jesus when ship hits the fan. I'm going to
Speaker 2: etch my family name in history. Okay, piracy platypus himself.
Speaker 4: I mean, but to be fair, your last name has
Speaker 4: already been etched into the annals of history because of
Speaker 4: mister John. Uh. You know, we may have seen.
Speaker 12: The porn stash and I looked like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just say, miss John Holmes definitely put his
Speaker 4: mark on the world one dick slap at a time,
Speaker 4: if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I don't want the Holmes name to be
Speaker 11: attributed with ads because that's how it's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: Sherlock still attached to that dude.
Speaker 5: Funny if my.
Speaker 11: Teacher's uh my English teacher called me Sherlock because I
Speaker 11: was waiting more English.
Speaker 12: I taught the class better than he did for a week.
Speaker 13: Hm.
Speaker 12: Wow, he made a bit.
Speaker 2: White Boy Wizard said, ain't never going to war for
Speaker 2: any man, especially Trump.
Speaker 4: I'll go to war if it's needed, but like understand,
Speaker 4: if I have to go to war, I'm committing every
Speaker 4: war crime in the book, so like, just we should
Speaker 4: know that going into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this, Spirit Animal put recent analysis of Cordell,
Speaker 2: Georgia has one of the highest murder rates in the
Speaker 2: nation when compared to this cities, when when compared to
Speaker 2: cities of all sizes. In a recent study from September
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the city ranked as the second most
Speaker 2: dangerous place in Georgia for violent crimes.
Speaker 12: Damn, that's ravage.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 4: Hopefully you're staying strapped.
Speaker 12: Well they don't know, won't hook then there you go?
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah. Um, Spirit Animals said, but I think Islamic
Speaker 2: attacks is what led to it, to be honest, are
Speaker 2: you talking about what led to Charlie Kirk shooting.
Speaker 12: No, I think that's what's gonna lead, I said, lead,
Speaker 12: not led.
Speaker 11: I think that's I think that's what's gonna lead to
Speaker 11: the Civil War because you already got Americans being thrown
Speaker 11: out of out of American cities at by fucking mayors
Speaker 11: here in Dearborn, Michigan.
Speaker 12: Mm hmm, yeah youah. And also in Britain it's illegal
Speaker 12: to fly the Union jack. People are getting arrested for
Speaker 12: that shit.
Speaker 11: How you get arrested for a hate for a hate
Speaker 11: hate crime, raven your nation's flag.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: Five years ago, they were trying to make it a
Speaker 4: hate crime to fly the American flag in this country.
Speaker 12: There was a thirteen year old gold and I want
Speaker 12: to say it.
Speaker 11: I can't remember if it was Afghanistan or Iran, but
Speaker 11: she got she was publicly hanged, you know why.
Speaker 12: You know what her crime was.
Speaker 4: It could be a number of things. She was raped, Yeah,
Speaker 4: she was raped, so clearly it was her fault, so
Speaker 4: she should be hung for it.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's how sharia law works, you know.
Speaker 11: And that is there's a community in Texas that that
Speaker 11: that they're building at Muslimoni that no one can go into.
Speaker 12: And now they're now Michigan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Texas one. They're really attempting it right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know how far they've gotten through the project,
Speaker 4: but it's it is a thing. It's absolutely a thing.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that the Islamic stuff is going
Speaker 4: to be the cause for it. I could see it
Speaker 4: being a part. I could see it being a log
Speaker 4: in the fire, you know what I mean. Definitely, there's
Speaker 4: gonna be multiple logs in that fire for sure, if
Speaker 4: and only if it happens, and I pray to god
Speaker 4: it doesn't. But yeah, but I do, I do.
Speaker 11: I the fact that there was there was already a
Speaker 11: couple of test texts. It was there was already an
Speaker 11: isis a tech on us sol beforehand, and they're going
Speaker 11: in Bolden and everything and the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it goes, well, we will see how it goes.
Speaker 4: Hopefully we can get this ship locked down before it
Speaker 4: actually happens. In my lockdown don't mean the country locked down,
Speaker 4: I mean the situation. But yeah, let's say, Jonathan, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to get the chats because my shit only
Speaker 4: came up at eleven thirty two, so all of the
Speaker 4: chat before that is lost to me.
Speaker 6: Got you?
Speaker 2: Steve said, I gotta go sign my furlough paperwork in
Speaker 2: the morning, so can I. Y'all are you in JACA
Speaker 2: listening to this?
Speaker 4: No, I he might mean out of the military.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I mean I guess it could be both,
Speaker 2: though huh.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard of many prisons granting furloughs. They do,
Speaker 4: there's a way to do it, but that is for
Speaker 4: a very very very crazy set of circumstances. And if
Speaker 4: you are in jail listening to us, we appreciate the commitment.
Speaker 11: Bro.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah yeah, dude, turn the fucking volume up.
Speaker 3: Let all hear it.
Speaker 4: Baby, Let's open up the third eye of every convict
Speaker 4: in the big house. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 4: their brown eye, their third.
Speaker 2: Eye, third eye.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh stee or Yo kid said, good night everyone. I'm
Speaker 2: passing out to you next week maybe later, Eis Joe said,
Speaker 2: agreed on loving your country. I love my country before
Speaker 2: any other and believe that's how everyone should feel respectfully.
Speaker 2: Joe out of Australia.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, but again, nationalism is also seen
Speaker 4: as a bad thing. It's it's wrong for you to
Speaker 4: be proud to be where you're from because it's just
Speaker 4: like this nation that has drawn out with invisible arbitrary
Speaker 4: lines and like it. I think it's ridiculous. Nationalism is
Speaker 4: not a bad thing. Ultra nationalism can be, right, extremism
Speaker 4: can be. But being proud to be where you're from,
Speaker 4: that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe said, spirit animal. Hearing your American accent say,
Speaker 2: cunt made my day your funny cunt hahaha.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, keep in mind Sam's American accent is different than
Speaker 4: a lot of Americans accent. But I mean to be
Speaker 4: clear about that, Like Bostonian from Boston is completely different
Speaker 4: than LA, which is completely different from close to the
Speaker 4: border in Texas, which is completely different from South Louisiana.
Speaker 2: I did, don't forget about Pittsburgh, ease, baby.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that, there is that.
Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, and I'm only speaking
Speaker 4: on this out of ingorantce, I probably couldn't tell the
Speaker 4: difference from someone from Pittsburgh from someone from Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't mean this insulting.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that I haven't heard enough of either accent
Speaker 4: to be able to distinguish between the two. They all
Speaker 4: sound like Northeast Yankee.
Speaker 2: Talk to me, you've heard like Pat mcafe talked before
Speaker 2: out of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: E's I don't know who's that sports ball guy?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess you wouldn't know that you don't
Speaker 2: watch sports. Uh yeah, yeah, So spirit Animal said I
Speaker 2: have an American accent. I thought I spoke banjo.
Speaker 4: That there you go.
Speaker 2: That's what Wizard said, you speak hell of banjo?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 2: Whybo? Wizard said, Tony, what's the word on the flotilla?
Speaker 2: I'm the one that grows potatoes.
Speaker 4: All right, I finally caught up in the chat for
Speaker 4: where my internet went out on me.
Speaker 2: All right, dope, whitebo Wizard said, I need to redeem
Speaker 2: my last name in public view Custer, And funny enough,
Speaker 2: I descend from two lines of natives.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody gives Custer a hard time because of
Speaker 4: Custard's last stand and like, you know, him doing really
Speaker 4: dumb shit. But keep in mind, he came from a
Speaker 4: very illustrious lineage as far as military service is concerned.
Speaker 4: He was trying to live up to his family name
Speaker 4: and failed miserably. But like his brother had a pretty
Speaker 4: solid career of it, his dad's grandfather, like, they all
Speaker 4: did very well with it. So yeah, you have a
Speaker 4: you have a pretty solid name there in the realistic
Speaker 4: annals of history. Is just that one guy kind of
Speaker 4: put a stank on it for everybody.
Speaker 2: Uh, dumb Furry said, is that a hammer wrench?
Speaker 4: Jacob?
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, this hammer wrench was created
Speaker 4: and gifted to me by the spirit animal himself when
Speaker 4: we went to bro Grove in Florida just a few
Speaker 4: months ago. So yeah, this is in fact a thirteen
Speaker 4: sixteenth wrench with a ballpeen hammer.
Speaker 3: Welded to it.
Speaker 4: Because if you notice, there's things that I have that
Speaker 4: require some metal work from time to time, and I
Speaker 4: do have a ballpeen hammer and I do have wrenches,
Speaker 4: but like this was made by a cult member. It's
Speaker 4: a part of the set now. But fuck yeah, man,
Speaker 4: And this is the axe behind me. Also the knee
Speaker 4: gapper I have that axe for that got his acts
Speaker 4: right here. That's the kneecapper.
Speaker 2: You gotta test the.
Speaker 4: Uh you've shown it before. Yeah, I'm fucking solid man.
Speaker 2: Um he said that's gangster. Yeah it is pretty bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would definitely put dent in something. Ain't no doubt
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 9: It does.
Speaker 4: And actually, as a matter of fact, I need to
Speaker 4: fix some rivets. One of my pauldrons broke and it's
Speaker 4: been broken for a little bit. I gotta cut a
Speaker 4: piece of leather. I gotta pop in some rivets there,
Speaker 4: and then I gotta pop in some rivets into the
Speaker 4: metal portion too. And you gotta have a ball pen
Speaker 4: hammer to kind of hammer that down and stuff. Doing
Speaker 4: boo hurt has taught me so much about leather working
Speaker 4: and metallurgy and just general armorsmithing and blacksmithing. I'm not
Speaker 4: an expert at by any fucking means, but yeah, it's
Speaker 4: the little random stuff that you have to do if
Speaker 4: you want to be able to repay your own kit,
Speaker 4: unless you just got you made of money and can
Speaker 4: buy new shit every time it breaks.
Speaker 3: But that's you know that that comes with the nature.
Speaker 4: You're buying this expensive gear with the intention of it
Speaker 4: being destroyed from violence, So I mean, it comes with it.
Speaker 2: But oh shit, Breaking news, what's up? You go ahead
Speaker 2: and shares these screen This is from Fox News. Government
Speaker 2: shuts down after Congress deadlocks on spending deal.
Speaker 4: And here we go. Awesome.
Speaker 2: So it says thousands of federal workers to go without
Speaker 2: paychecks could face firings. It says the federal government is
Speaker 2: officially entering a partial lock or a partial shutdown on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: after the midnight funding deadline passed with Democrats and Republicans
Speaker 2: failing to agree on a funding bill. An earlier attempt
Speaker 2: by Senate Republicans to pass a short term extension of
Speaker 2: fiscal gear twenty twenty five government funding levels called a
Speaker 2: continuing Resolution was sunk by Democrats, who were furious about
Speaker 2: being sidelined and shut down negotiations. The bill, which would
Speaker 2: have given Congress until November twenty first to set fiscal
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty six funding priorities, passed the House largely
Speaker 2: along party lines up to on September nineteenth. The Senate
Speaker 2: is expected to vote on the same bill again on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: with more votes to come through the rest of the
Speaker 2: week and into the weekend until either a deal is
Speaker 2: struck or Democrats relent. House Republicans have been away from
Speaker 2: Washington in order to pressure the Senate to pass their bill.
Speaker 2: House Democrats, however, returned this week in a bit to
Speaker 2: paint a contrast between themselves and the GOP. So, yeah, interesting,
Speaker 2: there's that. I just wanted to throw it out there.
Speaker 2: We got a government, a little government shutdown, which.
Speaker 4: Ain't the first, ain't going to be the last?
Speaker 2: Brother, definitely not. Yeah, I mean, I would personally say
Speaker 2: the longer they're shut down, the fucking better.
Speaker 4: I mean, And that's the issue I have, right, You
Speaker 4: would think that again, perhaps people could be mature adults,
Speaker 4: unify and do what needs to be done for the
Speaker 4: greater good. That's just not in the cards anymore at all.
Speaker 2: No, we need to do away with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, yeah, we know how well people would operate
Speaker 4: without having something to tell them what they can and
Speaker 4: can't do.
Speaker 3: That's worked so well throughout human history.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're living in strange times, sir. It's said something
Speaker 2: on church attack.
Speaker 11: What is this?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: Another church attack? He who could have seen that coming?
Speaker 2: Oh it's the Mormon one.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, it's another revamp on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, this again.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I thought it was South Dakota, but Michigan.
Speaker 3: I think the shooter was from South Dakota. That might
Speaker 3: have been it, possibly, But yeah.
Speaker 4: There's it's wild times, wild times, y'all. I say this
Speaker 4: a lot. I really do mean this, and I'm not
Speaker 4: saying this to incite violence. I'm saying this to incite
Speaker 4: you taking your own personal protection into your own hands.
Speaker 4: If you're not carrying, start, if you're requires you to
Speaker 4: get a permit to carry concealed. It's a week in course, Shaw,
Speaker 4: It's a weekend course in like two hundred dollars. Go
Speaker 4: do it seriously and hypothetically, and hopefully you'll never ever
Speaker 4: have to use your weapon that you carry.
Speaker 3: That's worst case scenario.
Speaker 4: But my god, there seems to be more and more
Speaker 4: worst case scenarios happening for people all over this country.
Speaker 3: Now is the time to realistically start carrying everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, what was another thing? Oh, you'll like this one.
Speaker 2: Russia is helping the Chinese military prepare for a Taiwan invasion.
Speaker 4: H I heard about that. Russia has their own warfront
Speaker 4: that they are like not doing too wellen right now
Speaker 4: at all. America pretty much gave Ukraine the green light
Speaker 4: and said, dude, do whatever the fuck you want to do. Like,
Speaker 4: up until now, we've told you we'll give you these weapons,
Speaker 4: but only to strike these targets and only within this line,
Speaker 4: and only within this Yo, fucking hit Moscow if you want.
Speaker 4: We don't care.
Speaker 3: Just do what you gotta do to end this shit.
Speaker 3: And Zelenski's like, ha bet.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Russia's flying over Lithuania, Estonia, Poland Alaska. They keep
Speaker 4: invading airspaces and that's also about to go really really
Speaker 4: really bad for them if they continue with these kind
Speaker 4: of they're trying to test the waters to see what
Speaker 4: the response would be. They're about to fucking find out.
Speaker 4: And I don't think that that's gonna go the way
Speaker 4: they think it will. Just like this two week special
Speaker 4: military operation that we are about to enter, we're about
Speaker 4: to start year four.
Speaker 3: Of and I don't think that that.
Speaker 4: I don't think any of this is gonna go the
Speaker 4: way that Putin thinks it's gonna He's kind of an
Speaker 4: idiot in that regard, or at least he's overly confident
Speaker 4: of his military without actually understanding what the reality on
Speaker 4: the ground is.
Speaker 2: But hey, oh my god, already over at fucking CNN,
Speaker 2: they got the countdown on right.
Speaker 4: Now for what the government shut down? Yeah? Look, oh shit,
Speaker 4: who could have seen that coming.
Speaker 2: Look, it's been shut down for fifty two minutes and
Speaker 2: four seconds. What Congress fails to agree to a funding
Speaker 2: extension by midnight deadline, shutting the government down for the
Speaker 2: first time in more than six years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember the last time it happened, and
Speaker 4: they blamed Trump for it then too, even though it
Speaker 4: was Congress to shut down, not the president, but clearly
Speaker 4: it's Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was when was that?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That was before COVID, I think, yeah, yeah, six years ago.
Speaker 2: It was before COVID.
Speaker 11: Spirit out thoughts, Oh, last time it happened was only
Speaker 11: it was only twenty nineteen, because I always want to
Speaker 11: know that is because my leg was still in the cast.
Speaker 11: It was the day you went and shut down. Was
Speaker 11: the day I got my cast off. That was awesome,
Speaker 11: My first time.
Speaker 12: Ever being in being away without government. Shut down is
Speaker 12: I think this is them just trying to stall out.
Speaker 11: And because I think that the U both of the
Speaker 11: Democrats and the Republans are trying. They have an ego
Speaker 11: to stroke and they don't really want to be to
Speaker 11: bend to each other's will to try to pull the
Speaker 11: greater good.
Speaker 12: They want to play whose dick is bigger, so they
Speaker 12: shut down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. And I mean I understand that politicians
Speaker 4: really haven't given a fuck about the American public in
Speaker 4: like decades and decades and decades, but I will say
Speaker 4: that at one point in time, yeah, you'd have people
Speaker 4: that had different political ideologies and opinions and views and
Speaker 4: all these things, and they would be voted for by
Speaker 4: their constituents and all this, but they would do what
Speaker 4: needed to be done. You would have Democrats that on
Speaker 4: occasion would vote for Republican legislation and vice versa, because
Speaker 4: it wasn't about what's my party doing about this, it's
Speaker 4: how do my constituents feel about this issue. I'm going
Speaker 4: to vote on behalf of them. We're going to do
Speaker 4: what needs to be done. That really and truly hasn't
Speaker 4: been a thing since I would at best case, I'm
Speaker 4: saying the seventies, and it's just gotten worse and worse
Speaker 4: and worse as the years go by, and as all
Speaker 4: the new administrations have made it more of a polarizing conversation.
Speaker 2: Spirit Animals said, well, this shut down affect the VA.
Speaker 4: Could very well could not for the stipends or the pensions,
Speaker 4: or the disability checks or anything like that, because those
Speaker 4: are pretty much auto drafted and they're already set in stone.
Speaker 4: The medical facilities should still operate. But as far as
Speaker 4: anything new being passed to aid the VA, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: going to stall that. You might have certain high up
Speaker 4: DCVA reps that won't come into work, but Congress shutting
Speaker 4: down does not mean that every single government employee is
Speaker 4: also not going to go to work.
Speaker 3: It varies, you know, job to job and office to office.
Speaker 11: So I guess my my, I'm probably selfish and thing
Speaker 11: I will just won't affect the therapy sessions or the hotline,
Speaker 11: will it?
Speaker 4: Because it shouldn't. It shouldn't. I could be wrong, but
Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, the VA pays their employees off
Speaker 4: of a yearly stipend for the budget that was approved
Speaker 4: last year, So it shouldn't shut anything down right now,
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing, this fiscal budget thing that they're
Speaker 4: talking about, is setting the fiscal budget for next year.
Speaker 12: So can you I'm you get a bugget down and
Speaker 12: keep his south stout? What is a stipend? Because I.
Speaker 4: All right, so your monthly check that you receive for
Speaker 4: any of the veterans out there that are receiving a
Speaker 4: disability check C and P, which is compensation and pension, right,
Speaker 4: that is already designated and pretty much etched in stone.
Speaker 4: So that should come out auto drafted with any delay.
Speaker 4: The programs and all these things. Though, the payments to
Speaker 4: the doctors at the VA and stuff like that are
Speaker 4: paid in a very similar fashion. They get paid on
Speaker 4: the first and fifteenth like the military, or they get
Speaker 4: paid at the first of the month kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But again it varies job to job, office to office,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, kind of job titled job title.
Speaker 4: So I don't think we're gonna see any real hesitancy
Speaker 4: or delays as far as the VA is concerned, at
Speaker 4: least not in the short term. If this continues for
Speaker 4: like six months, maybe we have calls for concern. But
Speaker 4: I have a feeling this is going to be wrapped
Speaker 4: up relatively quickly.
Speaker 2: So anyway, but yeah, most likely let's see, Uh furry
Speaker 2: said Jonathan. Do you have shirts in your store of marv?
Speaker 8: I do?
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I think that link is if you go
Speaker 2: under the uh the Metamistics podcast and then just checking
Speaker 2: the show notes down, there should be in there somewhere.
Speaker 3: Do you have shirts for sale?
Speaker 18: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to get called the conspiracy shirts for sale?
Speaker 11: We do.
Speaker 2: What do you think Sam's wearing?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 3: Is that the newer ones or is that one of
Speaker 3: the older ones?
Speaker 2: That's the old one?
Speaker 12: So this is the original one. I do have the
Speaker 12: new one, and thank you all. By the way, awesome
Speaker 12: birthday is just in the wash. But I need to help.
Speaker 12: I just called a Pikachu. Can you help me? Name
Speaker 12: name it?
Speaker 4: I would think cult member.
Speaker 12: Well, so I already have uh the three leg but
Speaker 12: you're gonna be uh the fire chicken.
Speaker 11: He uh, he's gonna be. You said you want to
Speaker 11: be Uh, you're gonna be. I thought, Wait, zap Dos is.
Speaker 3: The Maultrius is me and Jonathan?
Speaker 4: You want to be artic? Kudo?
Speaker 11: Or is that?
Speaker 2: Does I do do do well? Probably's ads, it's probably
Speaker 2: a little bit cooler.
Speaker 12: Okay, that's cool. So it is a female Pikachu.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, dope.
Speaker 11: So uh if anybody in the cult can toss a
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Speaker 11: I deleted my my last save that I had damn
Speaker 11: near every Pokemon and so I'm doing a cult themed
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Speaker 12: Hell my squirtle name is Charlie. That's funny, that's funny,
Speaker 12: But I don't know Charlie Cook.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's man.
Speaker 2: That was going there, You know what. I think it's
Speaker 2: about that time we wrap her on up so good.
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