WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:05.799 It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Costs Radio. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:07.040 Well. 3 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:09.679 The second topic I'd like to deal with tonight is 4 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:15.839 is pretty straightforward, and that is is the bromance between 5 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:20.719 Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Over. The reason I say 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:26.359 that is that Elon Musk, who was feeded at the 7 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.960 White House the other day, feeded me in F E. T. 8 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:33.640 D by the Trump administration. On his final day as 9 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:42.479 a temporary employee, he was given a golden key to 10 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:47.880 the White House by President Trump, and President Trump spoke 11 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:56.240 very very kindly of Elon Musk, but apparently things were 12 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:00.799 not going well. So let's first of all go to 13 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.000 cut number thirty seven. Rob. This is from April when 14 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.920 Elon was in the Oval Office with Donald Trump and 15 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.519 everything was going just great. Cut thirty seven. 16 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:17.120 I can't speak more highly about any individual. He's an 17 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.640 incredible guy. He's a brilliant guy. He's a wonderful person. 18 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.799 I've seen him with his family. I've seen him with 19 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:25.719 a lot of his children. He's got a lot of chiff. 20 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:31.319 He treats some good. He loves his children. But he's 21 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:35.079 a brilliant guy and he was a tremendous help both 22 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:39.040 in the campaign and in what he's done with the DOGE. 23 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:41.719 And you know, we're. 24 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.359 Talking about almost two hundred billion dollars and rising fast 25 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.599 because many of the things that we were looking at 26 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.000 are now being found out to be fact. 27 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.040 And as I said, it was late last week, I 28 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.640 believe when there was this little ceremony in the White House, 29 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.319 it was kind of a a going away party, if 30 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:04.959 you will, for Elon Musk Cut thirty six rob. 31 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.120 Elon Musson's regular drug use. 32 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:11.840 No, I wasn't. I think he's fantastic. 33 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:14.199 I think Elon is a fantastic guy. 34 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.159 And uh, I won't find the support not troubled by 35 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:19.000 anything with Elon. 36 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:20.199 I think he's fantastic. 37 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.479 Did a great job, and you know, Doge continues and 38 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:26.199 by the time it's finished, we'll have numbers. 39 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.919 That will knock the stops off. 40 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.080 It's gonna be Uh. 41 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.599 He did a fantastic job and he didn't need it. 42 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:34.560 He didn't need to do it. Yeah, that was not 43 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:37.719 in the Oval Office. That was a by by a helicopter. 44 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.360 So then on CBS this past weekend, on CPS Sunday morning, 45 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:50.719 Elon went after the President's big beautiful bill. This is 46 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:55.719 the tax bill that that just eked by cong by 47 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:59.039 the Republican House by one vote. H It is now 48 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.280 over in the Senate and there's a lot of senators 49 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.199 over there who are having some concerns about it. And 50 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:08.719 Elon through some gasoline on that fire on CBS this 51 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.919 morning on Sunday Morning, Cut thirty eight, Rob. 52 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:16.039 So you know, I was like disappointed to see the 53 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:22.039 massive spending bill. Frankly, which increases the bunch depsit not 54 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.719 doesn't decrease it, and that reminds the work that the 55 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:25.599 Notes team is doing. 56 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.599 I actually thought that when this big beautiful bill came along. 57 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.719 I mean, like everything he's done on dose gets wiped 58 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:32.080 out in. 59 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:32.680 The first year. 60 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:35.599 I think, I think a bill can be can be 61 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.879 can be big or it can be beautiful. I don't 62 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.599 know if it could be both my postal opinion. 63 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.919 Now Elon Musk is calling the the big Beautiful Bill 64 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:55.719 a disgusting abomination. So at this point, I don't think 65 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:00.520 it's going to take too long before Donald Trump shows 66 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:06.159 his disgust with what Elon is talking about. Again, Yeah, 67 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:08.520 this is let me play that. We have a little 68 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.360 bit of a longer version of that bite, which I 69 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:14.120 think is important. Cut number twelve, Rob, I'm gonna go 70 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.280 to cut twelve please. 71 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.120 You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive 72 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:25.720 spending ball frankly, which increases the budge deps that not 73 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.319 just decrease it, and that reminds the work that the 74 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.240 Noche team is doing. 75 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.240 I actually thought that when this big beautiful bill came along, 76 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.360 I mean, like everything he's done on does gets wiped 77 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:36.319 out in the first year. 78 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:39.240 I think, I think a bill can be can be 79 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.279 can be big, or it can be beautiful, but I 80 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.240 don't know if it could be both my clostal opinion. 81 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.319 Yeah, so good line, good line. But the question is 82 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:57.360 with the big beautiful bill kind of on life support 83 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:02.639 because at this point it it just barely squeaked by 84 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:08.800 in the House and it now faces a problem from 85 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.160 the Senate. So you have people like Ryan Paul I 86 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.600 have some sound from him, he's not happy with it. 87 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.639 There are other Republican senators who are not happy with it. 88 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.240 So you begin to think that this big beautiful bill 89 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.560 that the Republicans around the time of the inauguration, back 90 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:28.920 in January and early February were saying, this thing will 91 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.319 be enacted into law by Memorial Day, Well, Memorial Day 92 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:36.560 has come and gone. The next big holiday will be Juneteenth, 93 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.160 and then the fourth of July and then Labor Day. 94 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.040 With Elon Musk out there now undermining and some are 95 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.560 suggesting that Musk is doing this because he has an 96 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:52.519 interest in this piece of legislation and that he is 97 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:58.920 upset that some of the tax benefits for the EV's 98 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:03.800 subsidence and tax credit meant to encourage people to buy 99 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:09.519 electric vehicles we're taken out in the in the new bill. 100 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:16.680 I think that this, above all may indicate some choppy 101 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:24.160 waters for President Trump, and I don't understand how this friendship, 102 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:31.439 which developed so quickly last summer and now has has 103 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:36.759 gone south and what the implications are for the administration. 104 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:39.519 Love to hear from you on this. And by the way, 105 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:44.160 I think that if Elon Musk is able to in 106 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:50.360 effect subvert the Big Beautiful Bill, the Democrats will like 107 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.240 him again in my opinion. As a matter of fact, 108 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.839 I think Chuck Schumer has already gone on the record 109 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:04.240 as saying that that he is in agreement with Elon Musk. 110 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:10.160 So this politics make strange bedfellows. And we are now 111 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:16.439 what we've now had four or four full months February, March, April, 112 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.800 and May of the Trump administration four months plus, well 113 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:25.800 maybe now four and a half months, and President Trump 114 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.079 has had its successes in some areas. Uh. And one 115 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.480 might argue that the tariffs have settled down a little 116 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:37.519 bit the border. He gets pretty high marks on that. 117 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:44.319 But this was the next accomplishment. And if that next accomplishment, 118 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:49.360 the so called big beautiful Bill goes down in flames 119 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:53.639 and is shot down in flames by Elon Musk, wouldn't 120 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.600 that be ironic? Six one, seven, two, five, four ten 121 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.959 thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty trip 122 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.199 late nine to nine ten thirty. I know economics are 123 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:06.560 tough to talk about at night, but I don't think 124 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:10.399 we can ignore what appears to me to be a 125 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:16.639 romance between Musk and the President, which has now gone 126 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:21.800 in a different direction. And I think that the honeymoon 127 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:31.639 is over and maybe the relationship is now irretrievably broken, compromised. 128 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:35.080 Back on Nightside, joined the conversation back right after this. 129 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:41.399 It's Nightside with Boston's news Radio. 130 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.559 Now the phones are quiet, which always worries me. I 131 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:46.679 hope you're out there listening, and I'd love to hear 132 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.159 from some of you on this. The New York Times 133 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.919 has an interesting piece says the tech executive criticized the 134 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.360 president's legislation in a series of posts on Tuesday that 135 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.080 would be yesterday, signaling a widening rift with Republicans. On Tuesday, 136 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.200 he basically posted on x which of course he owns, 137 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:10.320 that it was a disgusting abomination, and he also told 138 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:13.759 House members who voted for it, you know you did wrong. 139 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:17.120 Sounds like he was writing an old country song here, 140 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:25.279 you know you did wrong. Now, this tech billionaire has 141 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:30.320 been in Donald Trump's corner corner for I think over 142 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:34.320 a year. They were they were as close as two 143 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:40.080 peas in a pot. But I think that relationships has 144 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:44.759 fractured at this point and I will be surprised, to 145 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:49.200 be honest with you, if the Democrats don't welcome Elon 146 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.200 Musk back. Now, maybe he may not want to go 147 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.480 back into the fold. I don't know what's going on 148 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:00.000 in his head, but this is not a good development 149 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:06.440 for the Trump administration because if the tax bill goes down, 150 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.919 that's gonna hurt Donald Trump in terms of promises made, 151 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:18.480 promises kept, because that was one big campaign promise that 152 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.320 he made on the campaign trail, so uh, feel free 153 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.639 join the conversation. My name is Dan Ray. This is 154 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.000 night Side. We talk a lot of politics here and 155 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.320 some people like to talk it some some people don't. 156 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.159 I left my topic last hour. They were people who 157 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:38.799 were hanging on uh, and I figured that this would 158 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:44.919 be a real good talker. Please, if, if, if you 159 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.080 have an opinion, join the conversation. Six one, seven, two, five, 160 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.440 four ten thirty six one seven, nine three ten thirty. 161 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.200 The question is everything with Donald Trump seems to be 162 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:59.519 fairly transactional. Uh, and I cannot think of a more 163 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:05.919 import and administration figure for him to lose an Elon Musk. Now, 164 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.320 I know Musk is not technically a cabinet secretary, not 165 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.639 technically an employee of the administration, but I think he 166 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.960 is very important. And if this is it with Elon Musk, 167 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:23.080 I think the Trump administration will have suffered a very 168 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.000 serious body blow. See what you think. Let me go 169 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.320 to Matt and Franklin. Matt, you were first to saur nights. 170 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.240 I appreciate you calling in. Matt, go right ahead. 171 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:34.480 Yeah, Dan, I've probably several times about this, so I've 172 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:39.360 wroted for Trump three times and I'm in disbelief as 173 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:44.039 like how bad financially the country's the only of like 174 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:48.440 being all over the map on our economic plan over 175 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:51.519 the first four months, and this whole thing with Elon. 176 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.120 I mean, I know Dodge is all about cutting waste, 177 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.559 but it's seeing to be like cutting stuff that Elon 178 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:01.600 could get his hands on with AI and computers, and 179 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:03.879 he's probably still going to get that. But then we 180 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:06.960 spend four months talking about how we got to cut 181 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.279 all the waist, cut all the waist, and the first 182 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.519 thing Donald Trump does is harden someone who who's got 183 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.080 convicted of steel in thirty million dollars in fraud, and 184 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.919 then to a bill that's gonna be four trillion dollars 185 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.000 in the debt. So I just don't understand where we're going. 186 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.120 And I see where Elon's coming from. And the Republicans 187 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.320 are now for the bill before they were against it. 188 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.799 I mean, whether or not Marjorie Taylor Green could even 189 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.519 read the bill to begin with, it's another question, but 190 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:37.399 it is outrageous. 191 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:41.519 What was the role? I missed the Marjorie Taylor Green 192 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.720 role because she is always an interesting character. 193 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.200 What did she regrets? 194 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.679 She regrets voting for the bill because she overlooked the 195 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:56.159 section that Elon doesn't like because she didn't read it well. 196 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:01.679 If she did regret it, that would flip it. I 197 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:04.480 think the bill passed the House. I believe it was 198 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:06.200 two fifteen to two fourteen. 199 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:10.080 Yeah, I mean it passed because they're so afraid it's 200 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:12.519 getting primaried. I mean that's the whole thing. It's like 201 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.559 they're not gonna say a word until this time next 202 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.559 year where nobody can run against them, and then depending 203 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.600 on how things are going, they may or may not 204 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.399 speak up beforehand because they're so afraid of not having 205 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.480 a job. But there's gonna be a lot of them 206 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.159 that are could not be having a job because you're 207 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:30.759 in swing states. So I mean they won. They keep saying, oh, 208 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.159 we have a mandate, we have a mandate. It's like 209 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.879 you won the vote by about a percentage point. And 210 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.320 not all the states are same. I mean, like the 211 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:42.080 Deep South is probably gonna vote for people regardless they're 212 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.360 not gonna lose their jobs. Laurie Baubart will probably move 213 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:49.240 to Oklahoma and Nebraska to one again somewhere because she's 214 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:53.279 already moved around Colorado. But most of them they kind 215 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:55.600 of have to produce results, and if you're sending them 216 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:58.720 to some to be a Republican in Long Island and 217 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.159 then they turned around and be like, well, I can't 218 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.320 help you out with your property taxes for all the 219 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.320 money that we're putting towards the state of Mississippi, Idaho 220 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.759 and Wyoming. But I am going I am going to 221 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.720 deliver a bill that's going to be a big, beautiful 222 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:14.840 bill that is going to have one hundred and fifty 223 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.720 billion dollar missile defense fund and everything else, and uh 224 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.679 oh yeah, it's gonna cost four trillion. Maybe yeah, No, 225 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:21.600 I think. 226 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.159 You know what, you could be the call of the 227 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:28.159 week here, man. I think that you have identified the problems. 228 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:34.600 And what happens is sometimes when you gain power political power, 229 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.679 you have to have a plan that you can put 230 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.360 into effect. And I think the Republicans have a problem 231 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:44.279 because they have some really independent thinkers. I think about 232 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:49.279 Mike Lee from the Senator from Utah. I think about 233 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:55.279 Ran Paul. Those guys are budget hawks, and I think 234 00:14:55.360 --> 00:15:00.440 that he doesn't have much flexibility on in the Senate. 235 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.519 And the point that you made was that in the 236 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:10.519 Tax Reform Act of twenty seventeen. The Republicans were brilliant 237 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:15.600 in this, and you could also, I guess argue pretty devious. 238 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.240 They figured it out that they would go after the 239 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.759 high property tax states and put that salt cap. So 240 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:29.759 basically the most taxes that somebody can take state taxes 241 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.480 combined state income taxes. 242 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:36.000 Yeah, it's like impossible item now almost. 243 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:40.039 Well, yeah, it certainly makes it more difficult, that's for sure. 244 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:44.639 And its counted ten thousand dollars. And look, if you're 245 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:50.000 living in a state like Wyoming, the property tax is 246 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.279 minute minute compared to what if you're living in Long 247 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:56.960 Island or living in Massachusetts. 248 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.720 I do want to see what happens so Wyoming when 249 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.840 we get rid of the Forest Service and the Park 250 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.320 Service and say hey, take care of your own land. 251 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.679 It's the state's responsibility. Now, I really want to see 252 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.320 how that's going to work out. For Idaho and Nevada 253 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:14.840 and all these other states where there's not that many people, 254 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:18.919 there's like no taxes, and they're all deeply except for Nevada, 255 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.080 they're all deeply red. But it's like, oh, yeah, you 256 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.399 can pay for your own forest. And then what's going 257 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.159 to happen this summer when you don't have all these 258 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.080 extra people cutting down the trees and everything, and as 259 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.360 a forest fire, it's like the whole thing's good. And 260 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:34.159 then we get rid of most of the people at FEBA, 261 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:37.120 and it's like, so, what happens if Palm Beach gets 262 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:39.840 nailed by a hurricane? It's Donald going to say, hey, Florida, 263 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:41.399 you're on your own? Or is that gonna be different? 264 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:48.200 Looks, there's no question that there's waste and government, okay, 265 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.039 and and everybody knows that. 266 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:54.480 And we got rid of the park rangers so you 267 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:57.559 can afford the birthday party to celebrate the two hundred 268 00:16:57.799 --> 00:16:59.279 anniversary of the army or whatever. 269 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.720 Well, I think you can pick things, there's no question 270 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.119 about that. But do you do you not believe there's 271 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:07.640 waste in individual government? 272 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.079 I think there's waste in fraud. How they're going about 273 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.799 doing it when they're focusing on the budget that they 274 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.680 passed two years ago and now it's an extension of 275 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.720 the same budget that they approved themselves, and they're like, oh, 276 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.240 we're going to resind eight billion dollars to all these 277 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:28.480 different groups with three months left on the budget that 278 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.240 they approved all that time ago. And then be like, 279 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.799 this is a great victory while we're talking about raising 280 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.519 the debt by four trillion. It defeats the purpose of 281 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:37.240 what you're trying to do. 282 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:39.400 Yeah, well, it sounds it sounds to me like you 283 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.599 have totally lost faith in this candidate. 284 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.519 Oh no, no, there doesn't seem to be any plan 285 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.480 whatsoever unless he gets someone that can actually convince them 286 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:49.480 to not be his own worth ut ofmy. 287 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.880 We'll see, we'll see. Thanks, Matt, appreciate your call. Interesting analysis. 288 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.279 Have a great night. Good night. We'll take a break. 289 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.640 We got the news, I got Carolyn Randolph, I got 290 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:02.200 Mike and Beverly, and I want to from you six one, seven, two, five, 291 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.720 four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 292 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:12.640 The Republicans need to if they if they're serious, The 293 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:16.119 Republicans need to learn how to govern, and they I 294 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:20.359 think that their speaker, Mike Johnson, has done a pretty 295 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.759 good job of hurting cats. But at this point, it's 296 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.400 beginning to look like the Republicans are about to conduct 297 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.519 a jail break on the floor of the House of 298 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.400 the Senate and go in different directions and without the 299 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:39.400 party discipline that they need. Uh, this could be a 300 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.720 moment in time when we look back and say Trump 301 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.839 lost more than his friendship with Elon Musk, he lost 302 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:53.240 control of the party that he had assembled. Because if 303 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.599 you don't have the votes, you don't govern, and if 304 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:58.720 you don't govern, the rest of the country is going 305 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:02.880 to look elsewhere for leadership. That's that is the history 306 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.160 of this country, whether you like it or not. Only 307 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.720 lines are open right now with six one, seven, two, four, ten, 308 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:10.519 thirty coming right back on night Side. 309 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.640 It's night Side with Boston's news Radio. 310 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:17.279 All right, here we go, we got full lines. Let 311 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:20.440 me go to Carolyn Randolph. Carol in Randolph, you were 312 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:22.920 next on Nightside. Thanks for checking in, Carol. What's your 313 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:23.839 take on all of this? 314 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.640 Hi, nice to talk to you, Dan. I listen to 315 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.680 you every night. First time callin, but listen to you 316 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:31.200 every night. 317 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:33.279 Come on, we'll get a get a lot of the 318 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.640 plausures in my digital studio. Audience. 319 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.599 Welcome, thanks so much, thank you. 320 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:42.200 I mean, my take on all of this, the Trump 321 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:47.279 and Elon bromance or whatever. I think it's all theater, 322 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.839 I really do. I mean, so w from theater. 323 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:53.319 What do I say? I don't want to make sure 324 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:56.720 I understand what you're saying was the Bromance theater or 325 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:58.519 the breakup of the Bromance theater. 326 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:03.119 Broth is the the breakup is theater. I mean, for 327 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.359 God's sake, we got to get this bill passed. We 328 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:10.839 need to get the taxes lowered. Elon is now the 329 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.559 darling of the Democrats, but he's completely against what they believe. 330 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:21.039 It's I mean, are you kidding me? He wants to cut, 331 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:25.880 they want to spend. It's like, this is all just drama. 332 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.759 These guys are tight as is whatever. 333 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:36.240 Yeah, I still believe that that analogy you were going to. 334 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:38.039 I didn't mean to put words in your. 335 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.559 Mouth in Carol, but that is what I believe. I mean, 336 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:46.440 Elon is like the little puppy dog. It's like, yeah, 337 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.519 cut this, cut this, cut this, I want this done. 338 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:56.119 But government doesn't run like a corporation. You can't. I mean, 339 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:58.680 and I'm in business. You can tie, you can do 340 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:02.160 what you want. But the swamp is deep and it's 341 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:11.599 gonna take time, and there. 342 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:11.799 Are luckness monsters in the swamp. 343 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:16.759 Yes, he's got to call his jet. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 344 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.160 No, I know, sometimes a bad word slips out and 345 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:21.400 you're not doing intentionally. 346 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:26.079 I'm sorry, but I mean I'm so excited about this. 347 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.359 I mean, these two are there are romance that is 348 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:35.799 going to continue, not ending. I mean all his cuts, 349 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:41.039 he's done his cuts, and I know he's frustrated because look, 350 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.960 the bill is like, Okay, we're gonna get more money 351 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:49.559 than this, and more money is that? But give Trump time. 352 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.839 He's only been in there six months. 353 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.640 Four and a half months, four and a half months. Right, 354 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.079 you're a trumper On, You're a trumper, and you. 355 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:08.200 Think that this is this is fake. This is fake drama, 356 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:09.200 is what you're telling me. 357 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:13.119 This is fake drama. This is just like, let their 358 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:17.799 things up, and I mean, what else have the Dems 359 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:22.319 got going? They got nothing? Give them a little bone, 360 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.319 you know, let them think Elon's on their side for 361 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:26.839 a while. 362 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.279 Okay, Carol, you're you're you're very machiavellian. But that's okay. 363 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.559 Please take that as a compliment. Okay, that's good. 364 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:35.920 No. 365 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:40.400 I mean, I've been in business of forty years. I 366 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:45.160 know how things work, and it's like, please, okay, give 367 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:50.319 things time to settle down. You know, you know, you know, 368 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.000 you get the new guy in the office. It's gonna 369 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:57.240 change everything, and it's like who your jets? 370 00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:57.720 Dude? 371 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.119 That was a very That was a very strong first call. 372 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.000 I'm telling you you gotta. I'm looking forward to call 373 00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:06.279 number call number two. 374 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.759 You think you want me to call you again? 375 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:10.400 Yes? 376 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.599 Yes, I do. You know what you know? What I 377 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.200 like about your call. What I like about your call 378 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:20.880 is you weren't You didn't equivocate. You have a point 379 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.200 of view. You expressed it clearly in about three and 380 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:27.119 a half minutes, and everybody could understand what you said. 381 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:31.839 Sometimes when people call, they kind of contradict themselves internally. 382 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.880 This was a great call. A plus, Carol, A plus. 383 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.920 Ok, thank you, Dan. I really admire you. I listen 384 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.079 to you every night. Thank you so much. 385 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:43.160 Thanks talk. 386 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.319 So these two bros are getting back together soon. 387 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.720 Thanks appreciate it. All right, let me go to Mike 388 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:54.039 and Brely. Mike, is the romance over? You're a big 389 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:54.680 Trump guy. 390 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.240 Hey, you can hear me, I can hear you. 391 00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.440 Fine, go right ahead, Mike. 392 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:00.559 Yeah. 393 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:02.839 So yeah, No, I don't think that Roman is over. 394 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:09.200 I think it's just a uh elon more counts in 395 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:13.000 the budget and Trump didn't want to because most costs 396 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.559 would have Medicaid SO Security and Trump didn't want that, 397 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.480 and that was most of it all going on. We 398 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:21.359 need that built well for well. 399 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.559 First of all, First of all, I don't think SO 400 00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:27.440 Security is going to be cut in any way, shape 401 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:30.599