Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Costs Radio.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: The second topic I'd like to deal with tonight is
Speaker 3: is pretty straightforward, and that is is the bromance between
Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Over. The reason I say
Speaker 3: that is that Elon Musk, who was feeded at the
Speaker 3: White House the other day, feeded me in F E. T.
Speaker 3: D by the Trump administration. On his final day as
Speaker 3: a temporary employee, he was given a golden key to
Speaker 3: the White House by President Trump, and President Trump spoke
Speaker 3: very very kindly of Elon Musk, but apparently things were
Speaker 3: not going well. So let's first of all go to
Speaker 3: cut number thirty seven. Rob. This is from April when
Speaker 3: Elon was in the Oval Office with Donald Trump and
Speaker 3: everything was going just great. Cut thirty seven.
Speaker 4: I can't speak more highly about any individual. He's an
Speaker 4: incredible guy. He's a brilliant guy. He's a wonderful person.
Speaker 4: I've seen him with his family. I've seen him with
Speaker 4: a lot of his children. He's got a lot of chiff.
Speaker 4: He treats some good. He loves his children. But he's
Speaker 4: a brilliant guy and he was a tremendous help both
Speaker 4: in the campaign and in what he's done with the DOGE.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're.
Speaker 4: Talking about almost two hundred billion dollars and rising fast
Speaker 4: because many of the things that we were looking at
Speaker 4: are now being found out to be fact.
Speaker 3: And as I said, it was late last week, I
Speaker 3: believe when there was this little ceremony in the White House,
Speaker 3: it was kind of a a going away party, if
Speaker 3: you will, for Elon Musk Cut thirty six rob.
Speaker 1: Elon Musson's regular drug use.
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't. I think he's fantastic.
Speaker 5: I think Elon is a fantastic guy.
Speaker 4: And uh, I won't find the support not troubled by
Speaker 4: anything with Elon.
Speaker 3: I think he's fantastic.
Speaker 4: Did a great job, and you know, Doge continues and
Speaker 4: by the time it's finished, we'll have numbers.
Speaker 2: That will knock the stops off.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Uh.
Speaker 1: He did a fantastic job and he didn't need it.
Speaker 3: He didn't need to do it. Yeah, that was not
Speaker 3: in the Oval Office. That was a by by a helicopter.
Speaker 3: So then on CBS this past weekend, on CPS Sunday morning,
Speaker 3: Elon went after the President's big beautiful bill. This is
Speaker 3: the tax bill that that just eked by cong by
Speaker 3: the Republican House by one vote. H It is now
Speaker 3: over in the Senate and there's a lot of senators
Speaker 3: over there who are having some concerns about it. And
Speaker 3: Elon through some gasoline on that fire on CBS this
Speaker 3: morning on Sunday Morning, Cut thirty eight, Rob.
Speaker 6: So you know, I was like disappointed to see the
Speaker 6: massive spending bill. Frankly, which increases the bunch depsit not
Speaker 6: doesn't decrease it, and that reminds the work that the
Speaker 6: Notes team is doing.
Speaker 7: I actually thought that when this big beautiful bill came along.
Speaker 7: I mean, like everything he's done on dose gets wiped
Speaker 7: out in.
Speaker 3: The first year.
Speaker 8: I think, I think a bill can be can be
Speaker 8: can be big or it can be beautiful. I don't
Speaker 8: know if it could be both my postal opinion.
Speaker 3: Now Elon Musk is calling the the big Beautiful Bill
Speaker 3: a disgusting abomination. So at this point, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's going to take too long before Donald Trump shows
Speaker 3: his disgust with what Elon is talking about. Again, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is let me play that. We have a little
Speaker 3: bit of a longer version of that bite, which I
Speaker 3: think is important. Cut number twelve, Rob, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: to cut twelve please.
Speaker 6: You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive
Speaker 6: spending ball frankly, which increases the budge deps that not
Speaker 6: just decrease it, and that reminds the work that the
Speaker 6: Noche team is doing.
Speaker 7: I actually thought that when this big beautiful bill came along,
Speaker 7: I mean, like everything he's done on does gets wiped
Speaker 7: out in the first year.
Speaker 8: I think, I think a bill can be can be
Speaker 8: can be big, or it can be beautiful, but I
Speaker 8: don't know if it could be both my clostal opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good line, good line. But the question is
Speaker 3: with the big beautiful bill kind of on life support
Speaker 3: because at this point it it just barely squeaked by
Speaker 3: in the House and it now faces a problem from
Speaker 3: the Senate. So you have people like Ryan Paul I
Speaker 3: have some sound from him, he's not happy with it.
Speaker 3: There are other Republican senators who are not happy with it.
Speaker 3: So you begin to think that this big beautiful bill
Speaker 3: that the Republicans around the time of the inauguration, back
Speaker 3: in January and early February were saying, this thing will
Speaker 3: be enacted into law by Memorial Day, Well, Memorial Day
Speaker 3: has come and gone. The next big holiday will be Juneteenth,
Speaker 3: and then the fourth of July and then Labor Day.
Speaker 3: With Elon Musk out there now undermining and some are
Speaker 3: suggesting that Musk is doing this because he has an
Speaker 3: interest in this piece of legislation and that he is
Speaker 3: upset that some of the tax benefits for the EV's
Speaker 3: subsidence and tax credit meant to encourage people to buy
Speaker 3: electric vehicles we're taken out in the in the new bill.
Speaker 3: I think that this, above all may indicate some choppy
Speaker 3: waters for President Trump, and I don't understand how this friendship,
Speaker 3: which developed so quickly last summer and now has has
Speaker 3: gone south and what the implications are for the administration.
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you on this. And by the way,
Speaker 3: I think that if Elon Musk is able to in
Speaker 3: effect subvert the Big Beautiful Bill, the Democrats will like
Speaker 3: him again in my opinion. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I think Chuck Schumer has already gone on the record
Speaker 3: as saying that that he is in agreement with Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: So this politics make strange bedfellows. And we are now
Speaker 3: what we've now had four or four full months February, March, April,
Speaker 3: and May of the Trump administration four months plus, well
Speaker 3: maybe now four and a half months, and President Trump
Speaker 3: has had its successes in some areas. Uh. And one
Speaker 3: might argue that the tariffs have settled down a little
Speaker 3: bit the border. He gets pretty high marks on that.
Speaker 3: But this was the next accomplishment. And if that next accomplishment,
Speaker 3: the so called big beautiful Bill goes down in flames
Speaker 3: and is shot down in flames by Elon Musk, wouldn't
Speaker 3: that be ironic? Six one, seven, two, five, four ten
Speaker 3: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty trip
Speaker 3: late nine to nine ten thirty. I know economics are
Speaker 3: tough to talk about at night, but I don't think
Speaker 3: we can ignore what appears to me to be a
Speaker 3: romance between Musk and the President, which has now gone
Speaker 3: in a different direction. And I think that the honeymoon
Speaker 3: is over and maybe the relationship is now irretrievably broken, compromised.
Speaker 3: Back on Nightside, joined the conversation back right after this.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 3: Now the phones are quiet, which always worries me. I
Speaker 3: hope you're out there listening, and I'd love to hear
Speaker 3: from some of you on this. The New York Times
Speaker 3: has an interesting piece says the tech executive criticized the
Speaker 3: president's legislation in a series of posts on Tuesday that
Speaker 3: would be yesterday, signaling a widening rift with Republicans. On Tuesday,
Speaker 3: he basically posted on x which of course he owns,
Speaker 3: that it was a disgusting abomination, and he also told
Speaker 3: House members who voted for it, you know you did wrong.
Speaker 3: Sounds like he was writing an old country song here,
Speaker 3: you know you did wrong. Now, this tech billionaire has
Speaker 3: been in Donald Trump's corner corner for I think over
Speaker 3: a year. They were they were as close as two
Speaker 3: peas in a pot. But I think that relationships has
Speaker 3: fractured at this point and I will be surprised, to
Speaker 3: be honest with you, if the Democrats don't welcome Elon
Speaker 3: Musk back. Now, maybe he may not want to go
Speaker 3: back into the fold. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 3: in his head, but this is not a good development
Speaker 3: for the Trump administration because if the tax bill goes down,
Speaker 3: that's gonna hurt Donald Trump in terms of promises made,
Speaker 3: promises kept, because that was one big campaign promise that
Speaker 3: he made on the campaign trail, so uh, feel free
Speaker 3: join the conversation. My name is Dan Ray. This is
Speaker 3: night Side. We talk a lot of politics here and
Speaker 3: some people like to talk it some some people don't.
Speaker 3: I left my topic last hour. They were people who
Speaker 3: were hanging on uh, and I figured that this would
Speaker 3: be a real good talker. Please, if, if, if you
Speaker 3: have an opinion, join the conversation. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 3: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three ten thirty.
Speaker 3: The question is everything with Donald Trump seems to be
Speaker 3: fairly transactional. Uh, and I cannot think of a more
Speaker 3: import and administration figure for him to lose an Elon Musk. Now,
Speaker 3: I know Musk is not technically a cabinet secretary, not
Speaker 3: technically an employee of the administration, but I think he
Speaker 3: is very important. And if this is it with Elon Musk,
Speaker 3: I think the Trump administration will have suffered a very
Speaker 3: serious body blow. See what you think. Let me go
Speaker 3: to Matt and Franklin. Matt, you were first to saur nights.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you calling in. Matt, go right ahead.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Dan, I've probably several times about this, so I've
Speaker 9: wroted for Trump three times and I'm in disbelief as
Speaker 9: like how bad financially the country's the only of like
Speaker 9: being all over the map on our economic plan over
Speaker 9: the first four months, and this whole thing with Elon.
Speaker 9: I mean, I know Dodge is all about cutting waste,
Speaker 9: but it's seeing to be like cutting stuff that Elon
Speaker 9: could get his hands on with AI and computers, and
Speaker 9: he's probably still going to get that. But then we
Speaker 9: spend four months talking about how we got to cut
Speaker 9: all the waist, cut all the waist, and the first
Speaker 9: thing Donald Trump does is harden someone who who's got
Speaker 9: convicted of steel in thirty million dollars in fraud, and
Speaker 9: then to a bill that's gonna be four trillion dollars
Speaker 9: in the debt. So I just don't understand where we're going.
Speaker 9: And I see where Elon's coming from. And the Republicans
Speaker 9: are now for the bill before they were against it.
Speaker 9: I mean, whether or not Marjorie Taylor Green could even
Speaker 9: read the bill to begin with, it's another question, but
Speaker 9: it is outrageous.
Speaker 3: What was the role? I missed the Marjorie Taylor Green
Speaker 3: role because she is always an interesting character.
Speaker 2: What did she regrets?
Speaker 9: She regrets voting for the bill because she overlooked the
Speaker 9: section that Elon doesn't like because she didn't read it well.
Speaker 3: If she did regret it, that would flip it. I
Speaker 3: think the bill passed the House. I believe it was
Speaker 3: two fifteen to two fourteen.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it passed because they're so afraid it's
Speaker 9: getting primaried. I mean that's the whole thing. It's like
Speaker 9: they're not gonna say a word until this time next
Speaker 9: year where nobody can run against them, and then depending
Speaker 9: on how things are going, they may or may not
Speaker 9: speak up beforehand because they're so afraid of not having
Speaker 9: a job. But there's gonna be a lot of them
Speaker 9: that are could not be having a job because you're
Speaker 9: in swing states. So I mean they won. They keep saying, oh,
Speaker 9: we have a mandate, we have a mandate. It's like
Speaker 9: you won the vote by about a percentage point. And
Speaker 9: not all the states are same. I mean, like the
Speaker 9: Deep South is probably gonna vote for people regardless they're
Speaker 9: not gonna lose their jobs. Laurie Baubart will probably move
Speaker 9: to Oklahoma and Nebraska to one again somewhere because she's
Speaker 9: already moved around Colorado. But most of them they kind
Speaker 9: of have to produce results, and if you're sending them
Speaker 9: to some to be a Republican in Long Island and
Speaker 9: then they turned around and be like, well, I can't
Speaker 9: help you out with your property taxes for all the
Speaker 9: money that we're putting towards the state of Mississippi, Idaho
Speaker 9: and Wyoming. But I am going I am going to
Speaker 9: deliver a bill that's going to be a big, beautiful
Speaker 9: bill that is going to have one hundred and fifty
Speaker 9: billion dollar missile defense fund and everything else, and uh
Speaker 9: oh yeah, it's gonna cost four trillion. Maybe yeah, No,
Speaker 9: I think.
Speaker 3: You know what, you could be the call of the
Speaker 3: week here, man. I think that you have identified the problems.
Speaker 3: And what happens is sometimes when you gain power political power,
Speaker 3: you have to have a plan that you can put
Speaker 3: into effect. And I think the Republicans have a problem
Speaker 3: because they have some really independent thinkers. I think about
Speaker 3: Mike Lee from the Senator from Utah. I think about
Speaker 3: Ran Paul. Those guys are budget hawks, and I think
Speaker 3: that he doesn't have much flexibility on in the Senate.
Speaker 3: And the point that you made was that in the
Speaker 3: Tax Reform Act of twenty seventeen. The Republicans were brilliant
Speaker 3: in this, and you could also, I guess argue pretty devious.
Speaker 3: They figured it out that they would go after the
Speaker 3: high property tax states and put that salt cap. So
Speaker 3: basically the most taxes that somebody can take state taxes
Speaker 3: combined state income taxes.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like impossible item now almost.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it certainly makes it more difficult, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: And its counted ten thousand dollars. And look, if you're
Speaker 3: living in a state like Wyoming, the property tax is
Speaker 3: minute minute compared to what if you're living in Long
Speaker 3: Island or living in Massachusetts.
Speaker 9: I do want to see what happens so Wyoming when
Speaker 9: we get rid of the Forest Service and the Park
Speaker 9: Service and say hey, take care of your own land.
Speaker 9: It's the state's responsibility. Now, I really want to see
Speaker 9: how that's going to work out. For Idaho and Nevada
Speaker 9: and all these other states where there's not that many people,
Speaker 9: there's like no taxes, and they're all deeply except for Nevada,
Speaker 9: they're all deeply red. But it's like, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 9: can pay for your own forest. And then what's going
Speaker 9: to happen this summer when you don't have all these
Speaker 9: extra people cutting down the trees and everything, and as
Speaker 9: a forest fire, it's like the whole thing's good. And
Speaker 9: then we get rid of most of the people at FEBA,
Speaker 9: and it's like, so, what happens if Palm Beach gets
Speaker 9: nailed by a hurricane? It's Donald going to say, hey, Florida,
Speaker 9: you're on your own? Or is that gonna be different?
Speaker 3: Looks, there's no question that there's waste and government, okay,
Speaker 3: and and everybody knows that.
Speaker 9: And we got rid of the park rangers so you
Speaker 9: can afford the birthday party to celebrate the two hundred
Speaker 9: anniversary of the army or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you can pick things, there's no question
Speaker 3: about that. But do you do you not believe there's
Speaker 3: waste in individual government?
Speaker 9: I think there's waste in fraud. How they're going about
Speaker 9: doing it when they're focusing on the budget that they
Speaker 9: passed two years ago and now it's an extension of
Speaker 9: the same budget that they approved themselves, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 9: we're going to resind eight billion dollars to all these
Speaker 9: different groups with three months left on the budget that
Speaker 9: they approved all that time ago. And then be like,
Speaker 9: this is a great victory while we're talking about raising
Speaker 9: the debt by four trillion. It defeats the purpose of
Speaker 9: what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it sounds it sounds to me like you
Speaker 3: have totally lost faith in this candidate.
Speaker 9: Oh no, no, there doesn't seem to be any plan
Speaker 9: whatsoever unless he gets someone that can actually convince them
Speaker 9: to not be his own worth ut ofmy.
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see. Thanks, Matt, appreciate your call. Interesting analysis.
Speaker 3: Have a great night. Good night. We'll take a break.
Speaker 3: We got the news, I got Carolyn Randolph, I got
Speaker 3: Mike and Beverly, and I want to from you six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 3: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 3: The Republicans need to if they if they're serious, The
Speaker 3: Republicans need to learn how to govern, and they I
Speaker 3: think that their speaker, Mike Johnson, has done a pretty
Speaker 3: good job of hurting cats. But at this point, it's
Speaker 3: beginning to look like the Republicans are about to conduct
Speaker 3: a jail break on the floor of the House of
Speaker 3: the Senate and go in different directions and without the
Speaker 3: party discipline that they need. Uh, this could be a
Speaker 3: moment in time when we look back and say Trump
Speaker 3: lost more than his friendship with Elon Musk, he lost
Speaker 3: control of the party that he had assembled. Because if
Speaker 3: you don't have the votes, you don't govern, and if
Speaker 3: you don't govern, the rest of the country is going
Speaker 3: to look elsewhere for leadership. That's that is the history
Speaker 3: of this country, whether you like it or not. Only
Speaker 3: lines are open right now with six one, seven, two, four, ten,
Speaker 3: thirty coming right back on night Side.
Speaker 1: It's night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, here we go, we got full lines. Let
Speaker 3: me go to Carolyn Randolph. Carol in Randolph, you were
Speaker 3: next on Nightside. Thanks for checking in, Carol. What's your
Speaker 3: take on all of this?
Speaker 10: Hi, nice to talk to you, Dan. I listen to
Speaker 10: you every night. First time callin, but listen to you
Speaker 10: every night.
Speaker 3: Come on, we'll get a get a lot of the
Speaker 3: plausures in my digital studio. Audience.
Speaker 2: Welcome, thanks so much, thank you.
Speaker 10: I mean, my take on all of this, the Trump
Speaker 10: and Elon bromance or whatever. I think it's all theater,
Speaker 10: I really do. I mean, so w from theater.
Speaker 3: What do I say? I don't want to make sure
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying was the Bromance theater or
Speaker 3: the breakup of the Bromance theater.
Speaker 10: Broth is the the breakup is theater. I mean, for
Speaker 10: God's sake, we got to get this bill passed. We
Speaker 10: need to get the taxes lowered. Elon is now the
Speaker 10: darling of the Democrats, but he's completely against what they believe.
Speaker 10: It's I mean, are you kidding me? He wants to cut,
Speaker 10: they want to spend. It's like, this is all just drama.
Speaker 10: These guys are tight as is whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still believe that that analogy you were going to.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to put words in your.
Speaker 10: Mouth in Carol, but that is what I believe. I mean,
Speaker 10: Elon is like the little puppy dog. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 10: cut this, cut this, cut this, I want this done.
Speaker 10: But government doesn't run like a corporation. You can't. I mean,
Speaker 10: and I'm in business. You can tie, you can do
Speaker 10: what you want. But the swamp is deep and it's
Speaker 10: gonna take time, and there.
Speaker 3: Are luckness monsters in the swamp.
Speaker 10: Yes, he's got to call his jet. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: No, I know, sometimes a bad word slips out and
Speaker 3: you're not doing intentionally.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, but I mean I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 10: I mean, these two are there are romance that is
Speaker 10: going to continue, not ending. I mean all his cuts,
Speaker 10: he's done his cuts, and I know he's frustrated because look,
Speaker 10: the bill is like, Okay, we're gonna get more money
Speaker 10: than this, and more money is that? But give Trump time.
Speaker 10: He's only been in there six months.
Speaker 11: Four and a half months, four and a half months. Right,
Speaker 11: you're a trumper On, You're a trumper, and you.
Speaker 3: Think that this is this is fake. This is fake drama,
Speaker 3: is what you're telling me.
Speaker 10: This is fake drama. This is just like, let their
Speaker 10: things up, and I mean, what else have the Dems
Speaker 10: got going? They got nothing? Give them a little bone,
Speaker 10: you know, let them think Elon's on their side for
Speaker 10: a while.
Speaker 3: Okay, Carol, you're you're you're very machiavellian. But that's okay.
Speaker 3: Please take that as a compliment. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 10: I mean, I've been in business of forty years. I
Speaker 10: know how things work, and it's like, please, okay, give
Speaker 10: things time to settle down. You know, you know, you know,
Speaker 10: you get the new guy in the office. It's gonna
Speaker 10: change everything, and it's like who your jets?
Speaker 12: Dude?
Speaker 3: That was a very That was a very strong first call.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you you gotta. I'm looking forward to call
Speaker 3: number call number two.
Speaker 10: You think you want me to call you again?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. You know what you know? What I
Speaker 3: like about your call. What I like about your call
Speaker 3: is you weren't You didn't equivocate. You have a point
Speaker 3: of view. You expressed it clearly in about three and
Speaker 3: a half minutes, and everybody could understand what you said.
Speaker 3: Sometimes when people call, they kind of contradict themselves internally.
Speaker 3: This was a great call. A plus, Carol, A plus.
Speaker 10: Ok, thank you, Dan. I really admire you. I listen
Speaker 10: to you every night. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thanks talk.
Speaker 10: So these two bros are getting back together soon.
Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate it. All right, let me go to Mike
Speaker 3: and Brely. Mike, is the romance over? You're a big
Speaker 3: Trump guy.
Speaker 5: Hey, you can hear me, I can hear you.
Speaker 3: Fine, go right ahead, Mike.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, No, I don't think that Roman is over.
Speaker 5: I think it's just a uh elon more counts in
Speaker 5: the budget and Trump didn't want to because most costs
Speaker 5: would have Medicaid SO Security and Trump didn't want that,
Speaker 5: and that was most of it all going on. We
Speaker 5: need that built well for well.
Speaker 3: First of all, First of all, I don't think SO
Speaker 3: Security is going to be cut in any way, shape
Speaker 3: or form. What they might do. What they might do
Speaker 3: is to once again move the retirement date a few
Speaker 3: months forward, so that so that people will have to
Speaker 3: work a little longer. Okay, Uh, you know we're living longer.
Speaker 3: So when when SO Security was passed in the nineteen thirties,
Speaker 3: the life expectancy in this country, probably from mayl was
Speaker 3: like sixty two years old, and a lot of people worked, worked, worked,
Speaker 3: and then died two weeks after they retired. Uh. In
Speaker 3: terms of Medicaid, I don't think they're looking to cut medicaid.
Speaker 3: I think they're looking to cut people who are on
Speaker 3: medicaid who shouldn't be on medicaid.
Speaker 5: Oh exactly. And that's the Democrats want to do. I
Speaker 5: get that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not what the Democrats know. The Democrats
Speaker 3: don't want to do that. They want to say that
Speaker 3: that the people who are going to be cut from
Speaker 3: medicaid are the poor people who need it the most.
Speaker 3: The Republicans might not be really smart, but they're not
Speaker 3: abjectly stupid. They're not going to cut people on Medicaid
Speaker 3: who need it. They're going to try to find people
Speaker 3: on Medicaid who are who are basically playing the system.
Speaker 5: Mike, I get it, but that's not the advertisements that
Speaker 5: the Democrats are pushing. But you know, I just I
Speaker 5: don't when I got the ninth vers is that they're
Speaker 5: you know that the bill wants to cut Medicaid from
Speaker 5: people that are sick and all less.
Speaker 3: That's what the Democrats say, and there's there's no one
Speaker 3: out there in the media that I know of who's
Speaker 3: that would be just that political sit aside. You know,
Speaker 3: if the Republicans sat around and said, there's a great idea,
Speaker 3: let's cut Medicaid for elderly people who really need Medicaid. Uh,
Speaker 3: let's cut Medicaid for people who run disability because you
Speaker 3: know they're not able to work. If if they're on disability,
Speaker 3: they they're gonna do that, they would be that would
Speaker 3: be political suicide. It would be like saying, oh, let's
Speaker 3: let's take money away from people on SOI security. Look,
Speaker 3: I earned my soial security. Everybody who's on so security.
Speaker 3: They earned their social security. They they they view it
Speaker 3: as a contract with the government, and the government better
Speaker 3: be smart enough to continue to view it. Would they
Speaker 3: move the retirement date up to sixty seven and a
Speaker 3: half maybe maybe, I don't know. That's that's how they
Speaker 3: would that they would work around the margins so people
Speaker 3: would have to work a couple of years long.
Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, I get well, we just need that time
Speaker 5: that build on baths, the roof to the highest pack
Speaker 5: rate about you know, so we need that built out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well again, they they need to get there, first
Speaker 3: of all, get their act together and figure out what
Speaker 3: they want in the bill. Uh. And they have to
Speaker 3: come up with some compromises. Uh and and hopefully it's
Speaker 3: a bill that's going to benefit people. It's going to
Speaker 3: cut waste and and maybe generate enough additional revenue so
Speaker 3: that that that the the deaf. Remember the debt is
Speaker 3: still thirty seven trillion dollars. Don't take your eye off
Speaker 3: that ball, because if we don't get that under control,
Speaker 3: we're all going to be in trouble. Simple as that. Hey, Mike,
Speaker 3: I'm up my break, I gotta let you run. As
Speaker 3: always appreciated, Thank you much. Talk to you soon. We'll
Speaker 3: take a quick break here at Nightside. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 3: I got one line at six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 3: four to ten thirty and one at six one seven,
Speaker 3: nine three one ten thirty. We're talking kind of politics,
Speaker 3: brutally tough politics. The Republicans have opportunity. They were given
Speaker 3: the House, they were given the Senate, and they were
Speaker 3: given the White House. It is time now for them
Speaker 3: to present a plan that can be agreed upon and
Speaker 3: get it through and get it done. And if if
Speaker 3: they can't do it, then the Democrats will get a
Speaker 3: chance two year, a year and a half from now,
Speaker 3: because October or November of twenty twenty six is only
Speaker 3: a year and a half away. Trust me on that.
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Speaker 3: Okay, back to the calls we go, Gonna go next
Speaker 3: to Jay in New Hampshire. Jay, get you in here,
Speaker 3: Go right ahead, Jay, Dan, good question.
Speaker 13: You know, fun subject. I understand why you're asking it.
Speaker 13: Of course, you know that the Dems are going to
Speaker 13: be dancing all over the situation.
Speaker 2: But no, I don't.
Speaker 13: I don't think there's any any worry about the bromance
Speaker 13: being Okay. You know, actually, I mean the idea that
Speaker 13: you know, mosc is gonna maybe swing laft de vice versa.
Speaker 13: I mean, he's actually the right on the right of
Speaker 13: Trump on this, you know. I mean he's actually even
Speaker 13: going further right, so that that that gives it even
Speaker 13: less of a chance that he's gonna have and he
Speaker 13: kind of bought brondezvous with them.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so I'm your conclusion.
Speaker 13: Is, oh, the the boom answers is going to remain strong.
Speaker 13: I think you know, it might you know, it might
Speaker 13: go through some healthy turbulence.
Speaker 2: Which which we need.
Speaker 13: You know, I think you know, the bill, the bill
Speaker 13: like like the other call, I think it was Carol
Speaker 13: said she was she was a.
Speaker 2: Hundred st right.
Speaker 13: You know, this stuff takes it takes time healthy, you know,
Speaker 13: it needs to be back and forth.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I just I just thought that
Speaker 3: the language that uh that was used by Musque was
Speaker 3: it was pretty strong and pretty forceful. It wasn't like, gee,
Speaker 3: because of a disgusting abomination. I mean that's you know.
Speaker 13: Then yeah, that's what you know, that's you know, Donald Trump,
Speaker 13: that's what he responds to it. You know, that's how
Speaker 13: he that's that's the playing fields for him, and he
Speaker 13: you know, he he used the same methods of course,
Speaker 13: you know. So it's it's it's it's a little bit
Speaker 13: of a back and forth right now.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Jay, I appreciate you call. Thank
Speaker 3: you much, my friend. Great great park, great observation. Thank you.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go next to Robert in North Carolina. Robert,
Speaker 3: you were in North Carolina and you were on night
Speaker 3: Side with Dan rayg go right ahead.
Speaker 12: Robert Ray, a longtime listener and first time caller.
Speaker 3: Come on, first time call out in North Carolina. Had
Speaker 3: to ride across from our digital studio audience.
Speaker 12: Well, my first is that I was originally a Massachusetts resident. Okay,
Speaker 12: I had to move by to there because I was
Speaker 12: a price out of houses back in the touring the pandemic.
Speaker 12: Moved down here, and uh, things are different, whole different world.
Speaker 3: Is as the living is the living a little easier
Speaker 3: down there. Robert.
Speaker 12: I'm telling you what I used to do. It go
Speaker 12: into just the VA hospital in Boston, and when I
Speaker 12: had then appointment from Worcester, it gave me more stress
Speaker 12: than I originally had going to the doctor.
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully you hopefully you have good v A, you know,
Speaker 3: facilities near you wherever you are in North Carolina. How
Speaker 3: long had when when did you leave Massachusetts?
Speaker 12: Robert left there back just a little over two and
Speaker 12: a half years ago.
Speaker 3: Okay, and and you and you have no regrets.
Speaker 12: Well, I kind of do. I want to tell you
Speaker 12: a quick story. I moved back to Massachusetts to take care.
Speaker 2: Of my mother.
Speaker 12: She was ailing, a ninety eight year old woman, and
Speaker 12: I was ready for the nursing home, but I thought
Speaker 12: i'd come back and spend time with her. And when
Speaker 12: I was there, I had this vision of making a Worcester,
Speaker 12: Massachusetts T shirt and I started making them by the hundreds.
Speaker 12: Now would you believe that they had the gall the
Speaker 12: nerve the city council decided, you know what, we're going
Speaker 12: to make an ordinance where nobody could make these anymore
Speaker 12: because somebody might. You know, I was not doing it
Speaker 12: for profit. I was only doing it for the love
Speaker 12: of the city of the time.
Speaker 3: I got to be honest with you, I don't see
Speaker 3: how the city council had any right to prevent you
Speaker 3: from making T shirts about Worcester. I don't think you
Speaker 3: could make T shirts about let us say, you know,
Speaker 3: the Worcester baseball team or the Worcester hockey team. But
Speaker 3: I wish you had got yourself some legal advice on that,
Speaker 3: because you.
Speaker 12: Know, oh no, no, actually it was Actually if I
Speaker 12: was to put like the American flag, it would be
Speaker 12: the same thing as the with the city sale. It's
Speaker 12: the freedom of the press. It's not copyrighted like you said,
Speaker 12: like the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 9: So that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Okay, talk to me about Let's let I
Speaker 3: don't want to get too far off track, Robert, thanks
Speaker 3: for calling. But what do you think about? Uh? Is
Speaker 3: the relationship between President Trump and Elon Musk uh forever
Speaker 3: shadowed at this point in your opinion.
Speaker 12: No, not at all. Listen, if I invited Joever to
Speaker 12: come and look at my books and all of a sudden,
Speaker 12: you know, you've found some problems, and then you left,
Speaker 12: and then I started messing with the books again, you
Speaker 12: know you're gonna you're gonna call me some names. And listen,
Speaker 12: that guy that took care of the business is the
Speaker 12: smartest man, the richest man. He knows what's going on. Listen.
Speaker 12: Our president is doing and the best that he can.
Speaker 12: And I respect to him, and I gave it and
Speaker 12: I did both for him three times like most people.
Speaker 12: And listen, there's always two sides to ep story. My
Speaker 12: wife told me the three sides actually your side, my side,
Speaker 12: and then there's the truth.
Speaker 3: That's not a bad line, by the way. I might
Speaker 3: steal that the next time I'm having a discussion with
Speaker 3: my wife. All right, Hey, Robert, look, thank you, thank
Speaker 3: you for calling in.
Speaker 12: I hope you come back, man.
Speaker 3: Hope you will. I hope you come back right back
Speaker 3: at you, Robert, and uh, come on back, call again. Okay,
Speaker 3: thanks you, sir.
Speaker 12: Good night.
Speaker 3: Let me get I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 3: get to David san Antonio. Dave, you are next on
Speaker 3: night side, and I can hear you, Dave, go right ahead.
Speaker 2: How are you doing Dan? Well, I'll just say it. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, big plate on his head, and he can't
Speaker 2: be keeping track of everything. And once in a while,
Speaker 2: something you know, goes awry and he'll get it straightened out.
Speaker 2: And he's got good intentions and uh, you know, he
Speaker 2: can't read that entire bill himself. You don't have time
Speaker 2: to has all kinds of other things to do, and
Speaker 2: he's dependent on those congressmen. Those congressmen need to work harder,
Speaker 2: that's one thing for sure. They need to work harder.
Speaker 2: They are, yeah, they got They take more breaks than
Speaker 2: anybody in our Manica takes day.
Speaker 3: Do you ever try to herd cats?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to herd cats?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't think about it, Dave. I think that's what
Speaker 3: when when you're when you're trying to keep you know,
Speaker 3: one side of the aisle together in Congress, it can
Speaker 3: be difficult because you've got four hundred and thirty five
Speaker 3: people there, all of whom thinks someday they'll be a
Speaker 3: United States Senator and after that they'll be the president
Speaker 3: of these United States. There's a lot of strong willed
Speaker 3: individuals of that floor of the House of Representatives and
Speaker 3: on the floor of the US Senate. That's the problem
Speaker 3: that that a lot of these presidents have uh there
Speaker 3: and once they lose their mojo, man, the cats go
Speaker 3: in different directions. It's as simple as that. And when
Speaker 3: you see Musk walk away and to say what he said, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, to to call uh this this bill a
Speaker 3: disgusting abomination, I don't know if there was any stronger
Speaker 3: language he could have used.
Speaker 2: Well, probably he's right, you know, he's probably right. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Elon's Elon's capitalist businessman and uh, Johnson's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: his figure of the House. He's got a he's got
Speaker 2: a majority, have three to work.
Speaker 3: With the majority of one when this when this bill
Speaker 3: was voted on. So he doesn't have much legal room,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And E's got to have a little sympathy for Johnson
Speaker 2: and the predicament that he has.
Speaker 3: Hasn't shown it so far, hasn't shown it so far.
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like as soon as he got
Speaker 3: out of the White House, he just wanted to throw
Speaker 3: a throw some metaphorical bombs back at the people who
Speaker 3: he supported. We're gonna keep talking about this, David into
Speaker 3: the eleven o'clock news, but I'm up on that right now.
Speaker 3: So I gotta let you run. Always good to hear
Speaker 3: your voice. Thanks for calling. We'll be back right after
Speaker 3: the eleven and I want to keep going on this. Okay,
Speaker 3: is the bromiance over between Donald Trump and Elon Musk
Speaker 3: Join us coming back on Night Side