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Today on Softcore History, we were talking about one of
the ten most haunted houses in the United States of America,
one that is in my hometown of Saint Louis, Missouri.
We are talking about the Lemp Mansion, owned by the
renowned nineteenth century Brewing family that was one of the
richest and most powerful families in Saint Louis. However, the
family was troubled and now that house bears all their troubles.
Learn about how the Lamp family rose and fell and
what currently occupies the house they used to live in.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Softcore History.
Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to another episode of Softcore History.
I am your host for the week Week two of
Spooky Month, Rob Fox, joined as always by Dan Dan Regester.
I was gonna say Bryce LARPer, I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna give you credit for the nickname you called
me off. Mike, Yeah, I'll tell you Bryce LARPer, Yeah,
it's Red October Bit Metscott home field advantage.
Speaker 1: You guys are fucked. It's over. It's over. And special
guest returning Lastro Lopez, Scott Lopez, how you doing.
Speaker 4: Doing great questing, big quests, big question? Get going on quest?
Speaker 1: Just highly recommend you subscribe to our YouTube, Softcore. Just
search software history on YouTube to see what Scott is
wearing right now. He's dressed as a wizard. Uh. And
he's very He's just a very Mexican guy in general.
I mean, you're just a wizard who is Mexican, Like
you are a Mexican person in a wizard.
Speaker 4: I'm not very Mexican. That's weird. I don't speak Spanish.
You know.
Speaker 3: There's no Hispanic wizards at Hogwarts.
Speaker 1: There aren't Wellwarts.
Speaker 3: There's there's a couple of Asians.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's a black kid. I'm the first Mexican
to ever learn sorcery and ship ship Yeah, their first
one ever to go on quests and cast fireball.
Speaker 1: Get any good quest lately.
Speaker 4: I was in a quest in New York last week, actually.
Speaker 1: Doing what the paintball quest.
Speaker 4: I was a wedding. Okay, I was casting spells on
the wedding to make sure it was like going good
and keeping.
Speaker 1: The protection the spell spell. Yeah that's kind of you. Yeah,
so you're a good wizard.
Speaker 4: I try to be.
Speaker 1: You're lightwi.
Speaker 4: I didn't start that way. Oh you learn spells and
sometimes they go wrong. Well, that's that was me.
Speaker 3: That was fucking Scott.
Speaker 4: I was the dude.
Speaker 3: Now, how many occasions have you won that outfit?
Speaker 4: Probably like twelve times? Not too bad? Yeah, yeah in
a match, had a tournament?
Speaker 3: Did you trip over the cape?
Speaker 4: But I got shot a bunch now yeah, good lord,
everyone saw where I was the whole time.
Speaker 1: How how much of you do they have to hit
like they hit cape? Anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything that breaks the paint, you're just out. So okay,
it would just shoot my cape as I was running
and that was it. Yeah yeah, or that's actually a robe,
it's not a cape. My apologies to the wizarding the
Realm of Wizards.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're you're kind of clashing genres there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit, dude, a little it. I don't
think they they're they're intimidated about the first Mexican Wizard.
Speaker 3: Sure, they're not ready for it.
Speaker 1: It's cats out of the bag, you know what I mean? Like,
what what does that bring? It's sort of a opening
Pandora's box. You don't know what what's gonna come from it.
Speaker 4: Enchilados maybe, well, certainly plenty of.
Speaker 3: Those nicer lawns. I have the.
Speaker 4: Cat the Wizarding Academy, Yeah, is the best.
Speaker 3: You're just the groundskeeper.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's at him I live. Do you I have
to dress like this for the job?
Speaker 1: Just evadic cadavering weeds left and right, still get cancer,
just like round Up though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, missed a couple of times, hit a couple of kids.
You know, you know what happens.
Speaker 1: Round killed him too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get into this week's Spooky Month episode. Today
we're talking about booze fitting Philadelphia. Booze uh the boo
birds no well no, uh, but it is a double entendre.
We're talking about both alcohol and booze, like the boo of.
Speaker 5: Ghost makes like boo but also b oo z. Yeah,
b o z and b oos booze and booze. And
it takes place in my hometown, Saint Louis Shocker, Missouri.
We're going to talk about perhaps the most ghostly family
ever in the history of alcohol production, the Lemp family,
and they're insanely haunted.
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Mansion, which has been named uh one of
the ten most haunted places in the United States. It
is absolutely extremely active and extremely haunted, and we're going
to find out first how it got that way, and
then what what happens if you hang around there?
Speaker 4: Do they I mean I'd assume they have guided booze tours.
Speaker 3: So it's currently uh restaurant and in awesome. So, yeah,
does a ghost just haze you? They just shove kind
of bottles down your throat. I wish that wouldn't even
be You have to do ghost looses?
Speaker 4: Yeah, say yeah, like keg stands with ghosts holding your
feet up, but like you only went twenty seconds, pussy, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta do it, toll you die. That's how they all
got there. Yeah, because there's just they all died of
keg Stands.
Speaker 3: And then there's a couple, even the lonelier ghosts, that
are just playing beer pong away from the rest of
the party. Oh there's but yo, we ran the table
all night, dude. We talked to zero girl.
Speaker 4: We ran the table for the last two hundred years,
been in the same location. Haven't even taken a piss break.
The house rules are insane.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the like.
Speaker 3: Can we just use this table for flip cup? Get
the party involved. No, dude, we're fucking running.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we played defense blow pick whatever.
Speaker 4: Dude, I figured the shoot out of that cup.
Speaker 1: We are going to talk about maybe the loneliest ghosts
you've ever heard of tonight.
Speaker 3: Crank slashes.
Speaker 1: I say what I'm not?
Speaker 3: Or was he such a low t ghosts? He can't
even get it up, you know, get the.
Speaker 1: Jokes out, Get the jokes out on the ghosts.
Speaker 4: We're gonna feel really bad pretty soon.
Speaker 3: No, it's a comedy podcast.
Speaker 4: Fuck you. We can't make me feel.
Speaker 1: Bad, okay, anyway. The Lemp family was one of the
biggest brewing families of the nineteenth century. If you've heard
of the beer fall staff, that was the Lamps. It
was one of the top. At its peak, it was
one of the top twenty brewing companies in the world,
one of the ten biggest in the countries. It was
founded by Adam Lemp Johann Adam lamp Start, going by
Adam after he immigrated the United States from Central Germany.
Speaker 3: I think we should refer to him as Johann.
Speaker 1: Yea, all right, Johann.
Speaker 3: That's a proper respect on his name.
Speaker 1: Well, he's one that changed it.
Speaker 4: So was he or was it was the America. I'm
calling you, Adam, Dallas Island, the whole thing. Yeah, uh,
well he came sick though. It's a great name.
Speaker 1: It is a great I don't disagree, Johanna.
Speaker 3: I might change my name to Johann.
Speaker 1: Do it?
Speaker 4: You look at a really good Johann right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so have a little like spicy accent.
Speaker 1: Do it? Do an accent? Do a Johann accent, So.
Speaker 3: That would be like a jack off, smear naoff.
Speaker 1: Whatever, any European accent you can muster.
Speaker 4: It's a media Johan. It's a Swedish chef.
Speaker 6: It's so.
Speaker 1: Johann comes to Saint the United States from Germany and
in eighteen thirty six, after two years, moves to Saint Louis. Uh.
When he came to Saint Louis, like any immigrant, he
was like, all right, time to start a business. I'm
gonna get rich, build for my family, my descendants whatever.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And he thought being a grocer. A grocer was gonna
be uh, the way to do that. When I start,
I'm going to open a grocery store and you know,
build a business, blah blah blah. But he quickly noticed
that what people at his store were coming there for
almost entirely was the logger beer he was selling that
he brewed himself, so had his.
Speaker 3: Own little side hustle on his business.
Speaker 1: I think it was like, you gotta.
Speaker 3: Diversify the avenues of revenue.
Speaker 1: I think it was like semi common back then for
grocers to do that. Because he also made his own vinegar.
Speaker 3: People don't even know he was also the inventor of
drop shipping.
Speaker 1: I still don't even know what drop shipping is, to
be honest, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think anyone does. Yeah, that's how they make so much.
I went into like money scamming maasbourine.
Speaker 4: Drop ships when he said that, dude, not too.
Speaker 3: I think you don't even have to sit on product, Okay, man,
fucking you just make this website, use AI tools, and
you just print money ten thousand dollars all of a sudden,
Lambeau in your fucking driveway.
Speaker 4: Drop ship, drop shit.
Speaker 3: I mean sounds pretty sweet on my program today?
Speaker 1: Where do I sign up?
Speaker 4: Uh? Softcore history dot com.
Speaker 1: Sweet. So in eighteen forty he closes his grocery store.
He opens a brewery and saloon called Western Brewery. It
was actually at what was then thirty seven South Second Street,
which is today where the south leg of the arch,
the Saint Louis Arch stands, the Gayway Arch, so that
is where his shop is, right on the river. Basically,
Lamp's beer gets crazy popular, especially because the German population
in the area was exploding and they didn't want to
drink fucking English beer.
Speaker 3: Non whites.
Speaker 1: They didn't want Yeah, I know, right his non white Germans.
They didn't want ales and porters. They wanted they wanted,
you know, their German beer. Which is why I'm drinking
a Hofbrow original Lagger tonight in honor of the Lamp family.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, very.
Speaker 3: Nice German sympathizer.
Speaker 1: A German Lagger I non white sympathize. As much as
I like talk about being irish and shit all the time,
I'm I am also like literally more or less half German,
and my drinking tastes are definitely from my German side.
Like I'm a I'm a lot.
Speaker 3: According to Ben Franklin, again, you're not a white.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not white. Well, I don't think he thought
the Irish for white.
Speaker 3: Really, Oh, definitely not the Irish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't. I was never white.
Speaker 4: I dated a German and whenever she would road rage,
she would do it in German. It was the sexiest
thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: Sexy, terrifying.
Speaker 4: It was terrifying, and so I would insist she would
drive all the time because she would just get mad
immediately and then just start cussing, like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm like, this is awesome. Fear boner, Yeah, fear.
Speaker 4: Boner all day.
Speaker 1: It's terrifying language.
Speaker 4: It was great.
Speaker 3: This woman's gonna pulverize my ass.
Speaker 4: He was like five foot one, but just like it
was awesome, dude. It's a goblin language. I mean, it's
it's I thought a lot of them in my question.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking terrible language. There's nothing beautiful about I
can't even imagine. I kind of want to, like look
up what a German love ballad sounds like it's just
gotta be horrible.
Speaker 4: Do you know what they call an ambulance in German.
What it's a kronkin Falgan cronn Foggen.
Speaker 1: Of course it is.
Speaker 4: It's so funny, dude, what a funny Get him in
the Kronkinvalgan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're fucking twelve year old is dying, like
bleeding out, Like call the Kronkinvogan. It's so funny, no
matter how many kids are dying when a kronkinwagen is yeah,
comes up to the scene.
Speaker 4: And they have like the European sirens, which just like dude,
dude's moaning.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good family, yea.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they have such deep roots that even though the
Romans are mostly assholes during their run, it's like, oh,
they're doing against the Germanic tribes.
Speaker 4: I get it, you get up.
Speaker 1: I don't even blame a lot of times, I don't
even blame the English for being so mean to the Iris,
because we just we're such mud people, yeah, which is
such like swamp people.
Speaker 4: God forbid.
Speaker 3: We can't have our side too.
Speaker 1: It's it's he I get it, I get it England.
So his beer becomes popular because of all the German immigrants,
and Adam Lemp dies in eighteen sixty two as a
millionaire in today's money.
Speaker 3: He made it his snags, the richest story.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 3: He did, He did live the American dream.
Speaker 1: By now, the Lamps are one of the richest, most
ritzy families in Saint Louis, which at the time is
like the third or maybe like fourth or fifth biggest
city in the United States. It's like New York, Philly, Boston,
and then I think Saint Louis is fourth.
Speaker 3: It's so are they somehow connected Nanneuser Busch.
Speaker 4: Ummm, not really.
Speaker 1: He was friends with Annheuser Busch. Okay with with with
Anheuser and Buch.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if they acquired as beer.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. He actually was bigger than Anheuser Busch.
We'll get and we'll get to that. So Saint Louis
was actually like one of the reasons Anheuser Busch is
where it is and became so big and is. Saint
Louis was a huge, huge beer brewing area at the
time because there were a bunch of sort of Mississippi
River caves all under the city that were really cool
and temperature controlled, which allowed for better brewing, and so
people would literally do it in caves and store all
their beer in these caves and it was just like
a perfect environment for pre refrigeration brewing. Interestingly enough, why
don't we still have that now? We just used refrigerators.
Speaker 4: That's boring. Yeah, but caves are cooler than fresh You
want to go to a cave and go to the
beer cave. That sounds way cooler than going to like
the beer fridge in the garage.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean a lot of gas stations do call
their little.
Speaker 4: We do have modern beer caves.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 4: They're not cool at all.
Speaker 1: It's just like forty cases of uh medello cans and
like some a like some Budweiser.
Speaker 3: Basically, you get a neon sign becomes the man cave.
Speaker 4: Whoa man cave?
Speaker 1: I can't have a man cave here?
Speaker 3: No basements, No basements in the man cave.
Speaker 1: No, it sucks. I hate. I hate living in an
area without basements. It actually have you did you have
you lived in an area with basements?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Indiana, don't you miss it? No? They were scary,
what they were terrifying.
Speaker 1: Basements are the best.
Speaker 3: My great grandfather died in the basement.
Speaker 4: He died because he was stupid.
Speaker 3: We got electrocuted in a flood. But yeah, trying to
feed his family.
Speaker 4: How did he get Why would you go downstairs in
the flood's.
Speaker 3: Where the meat was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, water up to his water up to his fucking waist,
had a bunch of appliance, is still plugged in. Yeah,
this will be fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just going to the meat cave.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's go to the death cave. Going
to his grave.
Speaker 4: Now, all the basements I've ever been in, like in Indiana,
we're all like unfinished, so just concrete and scary, like gross,
a literal a light with the little toggling. That is true.
I was never you pulled the chain.
Speaker 1: It's terrified.
Speaker 3: I never went into a finished basement. What everyone's basement
was kind of like yeah, we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: So every basement in my childhood.
Speaker 3: Where was it at least exposed wood?
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, exactly half. There would be a finished
part and an unfinished part. Yeah yeah in the basement.
Speaker 3: I'm saying nobody ever completed their basement.
Speaker 1: I don't think part was like storage and where the
furnace was and shit like that. You call it the
dirty side of the basement, dirty sixth. And then there
was the normal finished side of the basement where you know,
you watch TV play in sixty four, watch each other
jerk off of course, all the cool stuff that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys have to take turns playing Madden.
Only two guys can play at the time. Uh, then
you had the crank corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you know there's only four players in GoldenEye
and there's you know, your whole class is there and
you gotta drink something. Yeah, class crank, Class Crank, Class
of two thousand.
Speaker 3: I don't forget that fucking Christmas with the cranks.
Speaker 4: This is our last crank class Crank of the years graduate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we all go off to high school.
Speaker 3: You're just playing that Vitamin C song that came out
that year in.
Speaker 1: Two thousand, came out the year graduate from eighth grade.
This a week. You know, she's married to Jason Johnny.
Speaker 4: John Juice.
Speaker 3: I don't know who better than Yeah, who did better there?
The Vitamin C check or Jason johnby Vitamin C chick.
She definitely like out Kate's her coverage money wise, but
I forget what she looked like. She's cute, she was fine, Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Mean Johnny probably looks like a pile of garbage now.
Speaker 3: But John Johnby should be a Hall of Famer. No, No,
in my mind.
Speaker 4: He's a hall of fame.
Speaker 1: I am sure, do I.
Speaker 3: Know his name? He should be in the Hall of fame.
That's my criteria, not the worst metric.
Speaker 1: So Mp, the lamp found family founder dies in eighteen
sixty two. The family at this point very wealthy, super
ritzy in Saint Louis. His son William Lemp takes over
the brewery and purchases the property that would become the
Lent Brewery Complex in eighteen sixty four. That property, this
is not the mansion. That property still stands today on
thirty five hundred LMP Avenue in Saint Louis. By the
eighteen sixties, there were forty breweries in Saint Louis. Like
I said, all the caves, blah blah blah. It was
a brewing hotbed. Because of that. Under William Lemp, the
Western Brewery became the largest brewery in Saint Louis, even
bigger than Anheuser Bush, and became the largest outside of
New York that had a single owner. So this is like, yeah,
it's a h humongous brewery at this point, and he
was a brilliant, brilliant businessman and brewer. He revolutional revolutionized
refrigerated train cars to ship his beer all over the country.
It became a Falstaff, became like a national brand. In
eighteen seventy six, William Lemp purchased a mansion for his family.
The residence was both a home and in office. It
was a thirty three is I should say it's still there,
a thirty three roomhouse total, like Victorian mansion situation.
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 1: But things stopped going well for the lamps soon after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once the old man kicks the bucket, oh before he.
Speaker 1: Does, No, I mean, things go well even after he
dies for a while. He dies in nineteen sixty two,
they have the brewery keeps growing, keeps getting bigger, The
business keeps doing better and better, but tragedy starts to
strike the family. William Senior's fourth son, Frederick, who he
hoped would take over the company. The other sons were
kind of doing other things, and Frederick was kind of
like the sweet, responsible one. I think he was born
in eighteen seventy three, but in nineteen oh one, at
the age of twenty eight, Frederick, who had been kind
of sick his whole life, but hit it from a
his family died of heart failure that was from other complications.
He was twenty eight years old.
Speaker 3: He's also the four child, and this I don't think
you take it that hard.
Speaker 1: He took it extremely hard. This is probably his favorite son.
Speaker 3: That means the first three are real, real fuck ups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to that.
Speaker 3: Just doing the math there, Yeah, I mean after I mean,
especially back then kid four dies, I mean, you're just
playing the odds there.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least he made it to twenty eight.
It's a good life, better than most.
Speaker 4: It's a good life, you know, mansion life at twenty eight. Yeah,
you're fine.
Speaker 1: So Frederick dies and in nineteen oh one, and William
Senior never the same after that. Really, he starts he's
just sort of forever depressed. After his son dies, he
starts to slowly decline mentally and physically. And on January first,
nineteen oh four, he's dealt another really difficult card when
his best friend whose name you will probably recognize, Frederick
Pabst mm hmm, a past Blue Ribbon, who dies as well.
So he the Lamps were friends with the Paps with
the bushes with several major brewing families in the.
Speaker 4: United States, like the bush Light Bushes. Yeah, whoa, that's all.
Speaker 1: They're in Saint Louis too, The bushes are in Saint Louis.
Speaker 4: I know, idea, that's my favorite beer for like domestic
cheap beer.
Speaker 1: Bush beer. Actually, you want to know a quick side
quest story on that. Since you like quests so much,
loving quests, do you know how bush beer came to be.
Speaker 3: They went on a quest sort of, so they went
to like a state fair, went to the pig troughs.
People were pissing in it and they just kind of
scooped it up and drank it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't give me that ship, you Philly garbage.
Speaker 3: You drink yingling, yingling, rolling rock, rolling.
Speaker 4: Rock, fucking water rolling rocks. Not good it is.
Speaker 1: It is like it's better than Bush. It's like topa
Chico that someone peed in. It is not better than Bush.
It is straight up natty Light rules. And that is
also Anheuser Busch.
Speaker 3: By the way, I know, everything's Anheuser.
Speaker 4: There's like three beer.
Speaker 1: Comes, so everything is technically Anheuser because there's a lot
under its umbrella. But if you want to talk about
like brands that Anheuser Busch actually created, that would be
Natty Light, Bush, Budwise.
Speaker 3: So you're going to really disrespect the oldest brewery in America.
Speaker 1: Yngling is hellamid.
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's great.
Speaker 4: It was exciting when it expanded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good for its price.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in that same kind of Bud Light cors Light.
I'd rather have a Yngling.
Speaker 1: I would not rather have a Yingling than a Budweiser
at this point. Bud heavy, Yeah, Bud Heavy I'll take
and a Bush anyway. So Bush one one of the
Bush's Augie, one of the Augies. They're all named august
Oh that's cool. Yeah, Augie Bush. I like that. So
they own the Saint Louis Cardinals at the time.
Speaker 4: And I don't fuck with this.
Speaker 3: This is kind of like New NBA where everyone's friends,
nobody like has you know, they're your competitor, They're the
people you're trying to fucking kill. Uh, well, this is now.
He was just kind of like dapping up your boys.
Speaker 1: That's not part of this story. But I don't disagree
with you. So Augie Bush owns the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: He's pretty anti AUGI.
Speaker 1: Bush owns the Cardinals, and he wants to name the
stadium that the Cardinals play in Budweiser Stadium, right, because
Budweiser is their main beer. Great name, and at the
time Major League Baseball is like, that's we don't name
the alcohol. You know it's bad Jesus.
Speaker 3: Well, he kind of got what he wanted. It took
a while, but what isn't it Anheuser Busch Stadium.
Speaker 1: It's Bush Stadium. But they were like, you can't name
it after alcohol. You can't name it after a beer, sorry, asshole,
Like it sucks.
Speaker 3: And so do you hate money?
Speaker 1: So I guess. So he's like, okay, fine, so he
names it after himself. He names it Bush Stadium. Then
he immediately he eates Bush Beer.
Speaker 4: WHOA, that's really smart.
Speaker 1: Fuck over major League Baseball to be like, fuck you
now it is named after a beer. But I named
it after me first, and I jumped through that loophole,
and you can suck my dick.
Speaker 4: Right, that's actually really cool, thanks Dry, I'm the deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the only reason Bush Beer was invented was
to fuck over Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4: And now it's like the beer of the Midwest. Yeah,
but I love Bush. Yeah. When I when I moved
to Indiana, that's like all they drank. And so I
just showed up one day, like day two with a
case of Bush light like this Mexican's all right. They
were very concerned when I.
Speaker 1: Freach for the mountains baby, I mean it may be
the best can in beer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they have like their cool like fall
Camo can boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get the gold can or thing that the
bush lattes. Oh yeah, they worked with us at Grandex. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I fucking love Bush. So anyway, Frederick Paps dies and
William Senior, William Lamp Senior, is even more devastated now.
So on the morning of February thirteenth, nineteen oh four,
William lemb Senior blows his brains out kills himself in
the Lempt mansion in his office, just.
Speaker 3: So distraught about his fourth son dying. Still, yes, his child.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do we know like what he used? Like a cannon? Uh?
Speaker 1: Just it was a thirty eight revolver.
Speaker 3: I believe he's in front of a cannon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had a cannon, it just stood in
front of it, like blowing your brains off, like that'd
be really fun.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, you gotta do it in
a cool way.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree.
Speaker 3: Like shot himself out of the cannon like evil Knievel
was off the roof of the brewer the wall.
Speaker 1: But that's not even I feel like if you actually
shot yourself out of a cannon, it would just be
like when you pull back on a waterling launcher, but
the waterloom breaks in the in the launch and you're
just as just a million little piece exploding.
Speaker 4: He turned to a human blunderbust. Yeah, I'm just bones
and body shrapnel pretty much.
Speaker 3: It's an accidental wood chipper.
Speaker 4: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: So on November seventh, nineteen oh four, William J. Billy
Leamp Bill will Junior, Bill Junior takes over the brewing
company as president. Billy married a local rich girl named
Lillian Handlin.
Speaker 4: She's a rich girl.
Speaker 1: Oh she's real rich.
Speaker 7: She was handling his nuts kind of though, and uh
they were married, and she got the nickname Lavender later lady.
Speaker 1: This chick was rich as fuck and spent money like crazy,
and everything she wore and had was purple. Her carriages
were purple.
Speaker 3: So high maintenance, super super high fucking game.
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 4: She sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: I have said nothing about her except that she costs
a lot of money. I'm in Yeah, she wars purple.
I like purple, and she needs all your money.
Speaker 1: But the Lamps were so rich it didn't matter. Billy
Lamp didn't care. They were super wealthy. So she started
filling the mansion up with servants and doing all kinds
of ritzy shit. And at one point William just kinda
got tired of her, and instead of divorcing her or anything,
he was like, all right, just leave me alone. You
can go. Just get out of my get out of
my hair. I'm gonna run this ber go shopping every day.
Speaker 3: Well, because she kept asking them the dress like Grimace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, I'm not wearing another fucking purple
suits like Joker.
Speaker 3: If you want to fuck me, you have to dress
like Grimace.
Speaker 4: I was hoping you say he killed her. He instead
of getting divorced, he murdered her. And she's the first ghost.
Speaker 1: He did not he did not kill her. Well, we
already have the first ghost. Oh, Papa Senior, Yeah, Senior,
kill Senior who blew his brains.
Speaker 3: That's the twenty eight year old. Maybe uh, or he
died peacefully. At twenty eight, he died peacefully.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's there. But they don't have
a full head count. So William's like, you just get
out of my hair. Let me the fuck alone. Here's
one thousand dollars a day in nineteen oh four or whatever,
nineteen oh eight. Uh, he's a thousand dollars a day,
go shopping, spend it or you get less, so use
it or lose it every day. Thousand dollars a day.
So actually, let me I didn't do the inflation calculator.
Let me see what that is in today's money, because
one thousand dollars a day back then is goddamn insane.
Thirty one thousand dollars. So she had to spend thirty
one thousand dollars every day shopping.
Speaker 4: That's almost hard.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be so hard.
Speaker 4: Back then, you have what ten stores, Yeah, you can
possibly spend that much money at once.
Speaker 3: In She's just like, I'll have the entire series kind
of literally every day.
Speaker 1: So but even then it didn't matter. In nineteen oh eighth,
they filed for divorce. She charged Billy with desertion cruel
treatment and other indignities. They're divorce proceedings.
Speaker 3: Wait, you can go a wall on a marriage.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Oh yeah, dude, that happened
all the time, he said.
Speaker 4: Desertion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he did. He didn't actually desert her, desert her,
but that did used to happen all the time. That
pack of cigarettes and never come back.
Speaker 4: That was that.
Speaker 1: I know that's a cliche, but when I was doing
the blogs and like reading newspaper, old newspaper hold every day,
Holy fuck, the amount of times that happened it is.
It would blow your mind the amount of times a
man specifically, but it would happen with women too, like
it would just someone would just leave and never come back.
And I actually read about it a lot with women too,
like it Like straight up, no question.
Speaker 3: That makes sense because we've said if you commit a
crime back then just go a town over. No one
will find.
Speaker 1: You, tell me another name, there's no social security number
or nothing. You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: The life start over. Yeah, you have caves, Just go
into a cave and drink beer vanish in the town over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go go up to Chicago. You're a new fucking
perper go.
Speaker 4: From cave to cave sounds awesome. Yeah, the next cave doesn't.
Speaker 1: Know who you are, none of them. More people know
who you are. Their divorce proceedings were like the talk
of the town. It was like big celebrity gossip.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: They lasted eleven days. Lillian was granted the divorce and
custody of William the third, their only child, and all
all Billy got was visitation rights, not even any custody
or whatever.
Speaker 3: That seems like a win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made out Lilian almost. Lillian almost lost custody
of her child and totally lost the divorce, like would
have gotten nothing because the court was presented with a
photograph of her smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, that hard.
Speaker 1: They were like dirty, dirty whore. Yeah.
Speaker 3: This was before Bernet's Yeah, made it legal for women
to smoke.
Speaker 4: It was like it was a foul thing.
Speaker 1: It was essentially like I would I imagine like showing
her smoking a cigarette, a picture of her smoking sick.
Speaker 3: It was the same as sucking a dick, not a dick,
all the dicks.
Speaker 1: But it's like her in a room with forty dicks,
like out like an egregious amount of cock. The beer
even to the point where like a very sex positive
person would be like, I mean, you have a family.
Speaker 3: Right, you smoke a cigarette? Back down as a woman,
you're a harlot. You're a fucking prostitute. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love women smoking cigarettes now, Oh yeah, that's hot,
it's awesome. But I also really love a woman who
throws a dip in. Oh.
Speaker 3: I respect the hell out of the people that smoke
cigarettes now go analog because everyone's vaping, and also all
the data and information that's out there about how bad
cigarettes are. And she's like, I don't care.
Speaker 4: It looks too cool. Is to have a lady swap
dip with me? Like in her lip takes the don
cut path her tongue. Oh dude, long cut Copenhagen Southern Blend.
She tongues it into my lips. What about a little
Redman Redman's doke? I just like, but no, seriously, this
isn't even a bit that I think that's fum with
a big league two.
Speaker 1: I never yeah, I never didn't think it wasn't a bit.
I never didn't think it was a bit. Yeah, no,
I know it's not.
Speaker 4: I love chicks that dip, and I want them to
dip in my mouth.
Speaker 1: I can't even explain to you how opposite of a
wreck I am right now, like it's it's it's withdrawn.
Speaker 4: It took me one like a track like semi attractive
girl to throw a dip in if she went from
like a six to a ten like and I never
thought I'd like it. I saw it, and I go,
that's the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a market for that. What if I
just spit into a bottle with dip and then sell
it online as like Sydney Sweeney's.
Speaker 4: That would I'd buy it, I'd fall for it. I
could be drunk one day, like probably.
Speaker 3: Five hundred bucks for that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely from some idiot.
Speaker 3: It's also believable that Sidney Sweeney would dip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've all we've all drank our dad's dipspit
at one point.
Speaker 1: No, we fucking haven't. What accidentally, what do you mean
what you never? Like?
Speaker 3: Got the water bottle in the center console and just
like took.
Speaker 4: It's like a doctor Pepper bottle too, and it's oh,
it looks like Doctor.
Speaker 3: Pepper wasn't my dad's, but it was my friends And yeah,
it's gross.
Speaker 4: It happens.
Speaker 1: No, no, all the nose. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: You didn't have a fucking childhood and fucking no nark.
Speaker 1: First off, I've been smoking cigars since I was like
fucking eight years old.
Speaker 4: That's not cool, though.
Speaker 3: It actually is sweets. You're like a seventy year old
man and you're not ripping cigars in high school. No
one's like, oh, this is dope. You fucking yeah, you're
getting the Philly blunts. You're kind of cracking open and
get rid of all the shitty cigar you put weed in.
Speaker 1: It's so poor.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, how else would you do it?
Speaker 1: You go to kick the blunt. If your cigar comes
in plastic wrap like a weird and there's five of
them in one, I mean, good lord, it keeps the
real tobacco. I did also smoke cigarettes in high school
in college, like cigarette I didn't do that. That's fucking
fucking stupid. But my dad would also smoke a pipe
back in the day. Smoke off that pipe sometimes too. Actually,
get cool. Pipe smoke is pretty great. I loved I
loved it when my dad would smoke a pipe.
Speaker 4: I have a buddy who like wears like the ball caps,
that has those little like lanyard like ropes around the
front of it, you know. But he has papers and
like tobacco in his hat, so he like takes it
off his hat and like a box of matches, so
he like rolls his own cigarettes off of his hat,
essentially gets a match from the little hat hat band
nice and lights him like that. I kind of need.
Speaker 1: Tried to smoke a rolled cigarette once after I had
quit smoking SIGs, thinking like, oh, maybe this will be
enjoyable because it's like real to it's not dog shit,
no filter, but it's not like dog shit like cigarette tobacco,
like you know what I mean. Like maybe this is
like good like tobacco you get at a tobacco store,
and I will enjoy it because I like smoking cigars
and I like pipe smoke iving like hookah and stuff
like that, So like, maybe I will enjoy this. I
smoked that. Who is great? Man?
Speaker 4: No it's not.
Speaker 1: I don't do it often, but I enjoy hookah. Dude.
Speaker 3: Hookah bars were a big thing in college.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went once, and I'm like, what is the appeal here?
I didn't serve alcohol. I was just like, oh, you
just smoked the hookah.
Speaker 1: I used to write at a hookah bar a lot
at TFM because Arab Cowboy Total flex on West Campus
ut because it was byob so it was very cheap
to drink. You just brought it. I would just bring
in a six pack. And unlike all these like twenty
four hour coffee houses or whatever or bars where it
would be like, you know, four or five dollars a beer,
I could always get a table twenty bucks for a hookah.
All the hippies were priced out who were just spending
like fifty cents on coffee and would sit at a table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can never get any work done because
the fucking Arab club promoters would just throw a flyer
in your face.
Speaker 1: That not a thing that happened there. I loved the
Arab Cowboy, which I could go back. It's too far
away now, that's what it's called.
Speaker 3: It's called the Arab Cowboy.
Speaker 1: Arab Cowboy, best hookah bar in the world. Love that play.
Speaker 4: I have a new quest destination.
Speaker 1: It's a great dude, it's b yo, b I would
just bringing it. I would bring my own six pack
in and the fucking nicotine keeps you going like a zinner.
Some thing, you know what I mean, Like nicotine keeps
you up. You're not just like fading off the beer
or whatever.
Speaker 3: You're like, I wish this was weed. No in college? Yeah,
I wish I.
Speaker 1: Was yeah, yeah, yeah in college because it was just
like get me as fucked up as fasts possible anyway.
So cigarette almost cost her her child and everything else,
but she wins and all that stuff. So the lamp
brewery of course gets hit hard by prohibition and uh
ultimately shuts down.
Speaker 4: Damn it.
Speaker 3: Not survivalist can adapt?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I guess I couldn't adapt. So Anheuser Bush
was like making bread and stuff like that, like mansion.
All the lamps were so fucking rich that they kind
of just didn't give a fuck. The family had some
nice place to be. The family had so much money
that they were.
Speaker 3: Just like, they're not grinders.
Speaker 1: They were not grinders. So they were hoping maybe that
it would get overturned prohibition, but it didn't. The brewery
complex was sold for a huge loss, uh to a
shoe company and on to seven twenty nine, which.
Speaker 3: Will become Nike.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Onto seven twenty ninth, nineteen twenty two. Billy Lemp walked
into the office that his father killed himself in and
shot himself in the head.
Speaker 4: Was it with a cannon this time?
Speaker 1: It was not? Still?
Speaker 3: No canon man suicide genetic?
Speaker 4: Huh? I think it is. I think it is.
Speaker 1: Killed himself in the same room as dad killed himself in.
Speaker 3: Maybe he was trying to be poetic.
Speaker 4: I don't know who know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who does?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: Was the office, you know, the President's office or whatever
in the let Manchester called.
Speaker 4: The office about this?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: What if somebody like blew their head off with a
potato cannon?
Speaker 1: It would not be that hard. I mean if you
put a soda can in that thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have those, like those can launchers. Now, like those,
you attached it to your rifle and then you just
shoot cans.
Speaker 1: That'd be hilarious.
Speaker 3: I always wonder if any of our potatoes hit like
a car windshield. We would just launch potatoes into the stratosphere. Dude,
we no regard where it went.
Speaker 4: I used to throw rocks at cars on the highway.
Speaker 3: I was like, sick, it's cool, man, We did that
with trains. But that is like they do it and
always sunny. I'm like, oh, I actually did that. In Delco.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did that until one time a car stopped
and we were like, oh shit, like ran by the way.
It was literally outside my house. We would hop the
hop the wall. We had like a wall. It's such
a child thing to buy our highway and once once
that car stopped, we're like.
Speaker 1: Oh, never again. It was such a child thing to
do because you don't understand how much that fucked with people.
So me and my friends, you killed someone. Mopez did
that with water, But dude, that happens in Austin. Multiple
people have died. Yeah, a couple of years ago here
because people were over on I thirty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was and they were throwing huge fuck people
were throwing fucking like boulders off.
Speaker 1: One smashed through the windshield and killed someone. I think
they killed a kid.
Speaker 4: I had my first date side before I knew what
a state side was.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome statute of limitation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were throwing water balloons when I was in
high school with cars and like we did it once
and I was there and we were doing it and wemit.
We never hit one. It was not on a highway.
It was like in our neighborhood. But like on kind
of a main road in the neighborhood, you know what
I mean, That's.
Speaker 4: What I meant. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, yeah, interesting, but so we didn't hit anything.
But and then I like the next weekend, I was
at work and and my three friends who I was
doing it with, they decided to do it again while
I wasn't there, and they hit a car and the
person got out and chased them back to my friend's house,
which was not far away, and they all got in
deep shit and my mom, I was like fifteen at
the time. My mom like picked me up from work
and she was like telling me about it, and I
was like, oh, crazy, and she was like, were you
ever doing that? Like she was like just which she
was right I was, And I was like, no, I
wasn't there even freaking accuse me of that. You don't,
bitch fuck you did there? You're accusing me a shit work.
Speaker 4: Wait.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, but you did it before. I mean,
that wasn't the first She was like, that wasn't the
first time. And I was like, yeah, what, but it wasn't.
Speaker 4: She was right. She was completely fucking right. I imagine
that's what you sound.
Speaker 3: Rob didn't hit puberty until twenty five.
Speaker 4: Still still haven't had a pube.
Speaker 3: I have a spell to take away to look at
that man. He's been growing his facial hair for a year,
has some shaves.
Speaker 1: Whatever my sperm works, I don't mean I don't need
I don't need a beard?
Speaker 4: Is it a flex? Wait? Does your sperm not work?
My works? Okay?
Speaker 1: How do you know? Actually? Fair?
Speaker 4: Well? Also me too. I don't have a child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no receipt.
Speaker 1: You don't have a trophy, fucking low tea empty cum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. I am under seven to fifty T,
so I have lotus astron Oh no, dude, I have
seven hundred T.
Speaker 4: Who can test? I should find out what I'm a bitch?
Don't care enough to.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm alpha. I'm the one fucking making
it rain on eggs.
Speaker 3: I think I'm like dead center where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 4: I guess that's pretty good. Someone was pretty good.
Speaker 1: So father and son, William Senior William Jr. They've killed themselves.
Elsa Lemp Wright, the youngest child of Williams Senior, had
been had gotten married to Thomas Wright, who was another
rich businessman in town Uh. They separated in nineteen eighteen,
and in February nineteen nineteen, Elsa filed for divorce. She
said that he was the marriage was a damn to
her mental and physical health. The divorce was granted after trial,
but Elsa and Thomas, even though they were divorced, soon
reconciled and remarried in March nineteen twenty. Later that month,
March twentieth, Ella shot herself while in bed at their house,
not at the Let Mansions, but killed herself.
Speaker 3: Regretted her decision immediately. She's like, I thought we could
work it out, but nah, I'd rather take my life. Well,
not even going to test the market.
Speaker 1: Some suspected it was a murder disguised as a suicide,
but it was never proven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a man's word against a dead woman who cares.
Speaker 1: Also, at that point, you're like, I mean her dad
and her her fucking brother did it. Like of course
she was gonna kill herself. That runs in them family. Crazy.
Speaker 4: They have a suicide pack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh fucking they're all fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Open and Showcase Johnson.
Speaker 1: Charles Lemp was the third son of William Senior, and
he was the final lamp to live in mp mansion
starting in nineteen twenty nine. He had left the brewery
business in nineteen seventeen to go into banking and finance.
He also dabbled in local politics stuff like that. He
never married. He lived in the mansion with two servants
who were married, so Bang Sash, I assume, and also
his dog. His dog was his only real companion in
life due a beloved Doperman.
Speaker 3: In April smells a little fruity.
Speaker 4: I think he's living the dream.
Speaker 1: In April nineteen forty one, Charles Lemp sent a letter
to a Saint Louis, a funeral home in Saint Louis,
requesting that in the case of his death, whenever it comes,
remains should be taken by ambulance to the Missouri crematory.
His body should not be bathed, clothed, or changed. However
you find him, cremate them. His ashes should then be
put into a wicker box and buried on his farm,
because of course they had more than one property there.
And he said, do not do you not hold a funeral,
and do not even put my death in the papers.
Don't nothing if I die, grab it, burn me, bury me.
Don't fucking tell anyone. And this guy, by the way,
was the last lamp, the last of the super famous
family family. And even though he was never married, he
was a big philanthropist at the time and all this stuff. Anyway,
he sends that letter in April of nineteen forty one,
the US isn't even in World War two yet. In
nineteen forty nine May tenth, nineteen forty nine, eight years later,
he blows his brains out.
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, dude, Canon this time.
Speaker 3: When you get to that point, you're like, I guess
I gotta go with the family tradition, just like Hank
Williams Junior, because you don't want to kind of be
a show boat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't be the one not do that.
Speaker 3: But go you think I'm good enough to just not
kill myself. Or also if you changed up the dynamic
of like maybe you hang yourself, maybe you sleep with
your wrist to show it's a little too yeah, hot doggy,
Yeah yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: Really dragging it out, really kind of making it to
make it about you. You are making it about you
and suicides people. Famously, no one's ever made a suicide
about themselves, So you don't want to be the first.
It's bad, bad, bad luck.
Speaker 3: It is, and especially a guy that said, burn my.
Speaker 1: Body, burying my hand, don't tell anyone.
Speaker 3: Everything about me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Before he killed himself, it should be noted that
he went down to the basement and shot his beloved dog, no,
and then went upstairs and killed himself.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's probably the best thing to do
for your dogs. Who isn't just starve itself to death.
Speaker 1: I mean he had servants there, all right, so he
was just farrowing it. You know, He's like, you're coming
with me to the afterlife?
Speaker 4: Is that cool? No? Okay?
Speaker 1: In nineteen forty three, William Lemp the third died of
a heart attack at the age of forty two. After
Charles's death, the only surviving son of William Senior was
Edwin Lemp. In nineteen seventy Lemp. Edwin Lemp died at
the age of ninety and his final order to his
caretaker was to destroy his art collection and all the
family heirlooms.
Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, dude, which he.
Speaker 1: Did or which they did followed his instructions?
Speaker 3: What kind of pieces did he have in his art gallery?
Speaker 1: A lot of Picasso? Oh, I'm just kidding. I don't
know yet you know some matists, Yeah, all the good stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, Picassa wouldn't really be a name by then, right, Yeah,
he would have been in the seventies. Okay, I was
singing before World War Two.
Speaker 1: He was a name that by then as well. Okay,
if you remember in the film Titanic, Rose talked about
how brilliant Picasso is. That's in nineteen twelve, so it's
kind of like already.
Speaker 3: So he got it. I guess I didn't realize Picasso
got his flowers while he was still alive.
Speaker 1: Oh, all his flowers. Not a Vangos situation at all. Yeah.
Now I mentioned a lonely ghost.
Speaker 3: Was it the the father, the patriarch, No, the thing,
it's Edwin, the ninety year old who, like I guess,
he never got married.
Speaker 1: Right, So Will Junior was got divorced, never had custody
of his kid after that, and the wife said of
the marriage that you know, she accused him of desertion,
cruelty and dignities, all this stuff. Well, Will, and I
told you, Will was like, I'm tired of my wife. Dude,
just take a thousand dollars a day getting out of
my fucking hair. That's because will like to party.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Will was.
Speaker 1: He got after it.
Speaker 4: He was Gatsby.
Speaker 1: He was running the brewery during the day, one of
the biggest, one of the biggest breweries in the country,
rich as fuck, and at night he was getting wild.
You know those those beer caves, Well they got turned
into man.
Speaker 4: Caves, big cave man.
Speaker 1: They would go down to the caves below the mansion
and fucking rage all night. Him and his friends. They
would bring in a bunch of hookers and just go
absolutely bananas down there. There was a swimming pool, a
bowling alley, obviously, all the beer you can fucking.
Speaker 3: Drink, fucking kegs, and fertilized eggs.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Well, that's accurate, because he got one of these women pregnant.
Speaker 4: You always do today.
Speaker 1: Still, there is no official documentation of the boy William
Junior Billy sired with some woman.
Speaker 4: However, they are a woman of the night.
Speaker 1: Yes, there.
Speaker 3: So he had a bastard that he put in a basket.
Speaker 1: A basket. A basket would have been merciful.
Speaker 3: He didn't push him down the river.
Speaker 4: Wait, the lonely ghost is a baby. We're getting there, Okay.
Speaker 3: Did he bash the baby's brains and.
Speaker 4: It's a little baby with a little beer walking around.
This was a bad dude.
Speaker 1: We're getting there.
Speaker 3: Well, you told us that we shouldn't be joking about
the baby.
Speaker 1: We're getting there for the episode.
Speaker 3: Get you jokes out, now, get your jokes ound. Now
about this baby that got bashed against a tree.
Speaker 1: So the rumors were that the boy the bastard, was
hidden in the mansion's attic for his entire life. According
to Saint Louis historian Joe Gibbons, when he interviewed a
former nanny and chauffeur who worked at the mansion, they
verified both that the boy existed and that he was
kept to the attic and the servants rooms his entire life.
Speaker 4: They have their own Boo Radley.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a reason they kept the boy up there.
Speaker 3: He was deformed.
Speaker 1: He had down syndrome.
Speaker 4: Ah oh no, so he's like he's the happiest dude
ever in an attic.
Speaker 1: It was a total He was between being a bastard
and being mentally disabled. He was in complete embarrassment this
well to do family. So the boy was hidden away
up in the attic, not allowed to leave.
Speaker 3: Listen, we all know it's incredibly fucked up to keep
a kid with Down syndrome in the attic. However, if
there's ever a child to keep the attic that's gonna
have a good time, it's somebody with down syndrome.
Speaker 4: Mine, give him some John Cena merch. They're good to go,
Just tits and John Cena man.
Speaker 1: He was known as the monkey faced Boy.
Speaker 4: No, no, oh, my God, just give him a mirror.
Speaker 3: Then I guess.
Speaker 4: It's Oh God, the monkeys health the attic put him back.
Speaker 1: He died in his thirties.
Speaker 4: It's a good life, No thirty years in the attic.
Speaker 1: And is buried in the Limps Cemetery plot with only
a small marker that says lamp on it, nothing else.
Speaker 4: They don't even give him his nickname.
Speaker 1: They don't even write. They don't even chisel monkey Faced
Boy into the fucking tombstone. Listen.
Speaker 4: I bet he still had a better life than a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people in his era.
Speaker 4: To this day, people say.
Speaker 1: That they can see him at night sometimes peering out
the windows of the attic at the world he never
got to experience.
Speaker 3: He didn't have to serve making grilled cheese. Would We
don't know that, Rob, We don't know.
Speaker 1: That after the death of Charles Lemp, the guy who
had all this stuff, burned the last lamp, the mansion
was sold and turned into a boarding house. However, that
didn't work out so well because it was haunted as
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Speaker 3: Imagine the monkey Face kid.
Speaker 4: No, they were cool with every other haunting but the
monkey Face. They were like, we're cool with the other ghosts,
but that one knows.
Speaker 1: So they are multiple ghosts.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine that though you're fucking in your bed,
you wake up late at night and you just see
a kid with down syndrome stairs.
Speaker 4: Head tilted down, staring at you, smiling.
Speaker 1: He is one of the ghosts that haunts the house,
the monkey Faced boy.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even be upset.
Speaker 3: I couldn't be like terrified, Like, oh, what's up, buddy,
how you doing? He's probably the nicest ghost.
Speaker 1: Easily imagine him. Probably both the Williams and IT, and
I believe that maybe the Lavender Lady as well, are
among the ghosts that haunt this place. Residents of the
boarding house complained of hearing not and footsteps for people
that weren't there.
Speaker 3: Listen, He's not the most graceful, Okay, he's making a
lot of noise in the attic.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy five, the mansion was turned into a restaurant,
and in workers in the house and in the restaurant
whatever they've seen, apparitions, they've heard, strange sounds, tools and whatever.
The civil ware will vanish. They have feelings of being watched.
Speaker 4: People.
Speaker 1: A lot of people will just quit and never come back.
After a couple shifts since the restaurant opened. Staff members
report strange experiences all the time, voices and sounds that
come from nowhere. Glasses will often lift off the bar
and fly through the air by themselves, so the ghosts
are throwing glasses. Doors lock and unlocked by themselves, lights
on and off on their own, and uh. Sometimes the
piano in the bar will start playing.
Speaker 3: Who was the musician?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Everyone got piano lessons back then about the guys.
Nothing good at it, but.
Speaker 3: It was their version of playing soccer pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you take piano lesson as a kid, play soccer
as a kid. There are three areas of the old
mansion that have the most activity. The stairway up to
the office, the attic. I think we all know why
and what the staff refers to as quote the gates
of hell in the basement presumably that might be where
the cave entrances.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we mentioned earlier how basements are scary, right,
more points to prove that, especially an unfinished basis. Now,
their basement's probably pretty nice, boy alley and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, that's like even deeper in the cave. So the
basement itself might be kind of whatever.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: The attic is, of course said to be haunted by
the monkey Face Boy. People often witness things on the
third level of the mansion. The face of the boy,
like I said, can be seen from the street, peeking
out the small windows, just trying to see the world.
Speaker 4: Does monkey Face Boy have a name, Not that we
know of, Oh fuck, dude monkey. All we know is
just that yeah, and limp.
Speaker 1: Monkey limp, monkey face boy lamp oh shit. Ghost. Investigators
who have visited have often left toys in the middle
of his room.
Speaker 3: There are people that accomplish much more that have no legacy.
This kid, we're talking about him today, all right.
Speaker 1: That's fair. It's not the worst point. They'll leave toys
in the middle of the room and draw a circle
around it to see if the objects move.
Speaker 3: You die the minute somebody steps talking about you. We
are keeping the monkey Face Kid alive.
Speaker 1: As monkey Face Kid because that's the only fucking name
we know.
Speaker 4: Very progressive.
Speaker 1: Yes, when they come back the next day, the toys
are moved out of the circle. Usually because now this
is my favorite. As we talked about William Junior, Billy,
the one who fathered the monkey Face boy who liked
to fuck. Uh, his ghost likes to watch ladies pee.
That's what it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do the little oaster, no goes.
Speaker 3: That's his kink.
Speaker 4: It's like a fire hose man. He loved that shit.
Speaker 1: I like it more when it sounds like a bucket
just being turned upside. I mean it's quick.
Speaker 3: Now is he in the toilet? Is he getting pissed on?
Speaker 1: One would think if you had these powers, but no,
he piques.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Women have reported a man peeking over the stall in
the downstairs women's bathroom, so they'll be peeing. Look up
and there's a guy just peering over washing them.
Speaker 4: Piss monkey faces below it.
Speaker 1: Monkey face confused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a real woman's son.
Speaker 1: Time of tuck. You you may be did, but you're
still mad. On one occasion of this, apparently a woman
came out of the bathroom and returned to the bar
and told the two men she was there with, hope
you got a good eyephall thinking it with them, just
like peering over, like let's watch her fucking piss. But
the bartender was like, they've been here the whole time.
They didn't. They didn't watch a piss. I know it wasn't.
And then he was like, Oh, that's the ghost that
watched his people pee. It's Bill Junior. In Bill Lemp's
senior's room. Guests have often reported hearing someone running up
the stairs and kicking at the door when Senior killed himself.
William Junior was said to have run up the stairs
to kick in his father's door because he found it locks.
He had to kick in the door to get to him.
People have heard gunshots, ballroom music, ghostly voices during their
stay in the mansion, and like I said, they've seen
apparitions as well. It is again, one one of the
most haunted places in the United States to this day.
I think it should be on the short list of
places we ever do a show from.
Speaker 3: I'm Down and it's what an eight hour drive twelve
twelve yeah, yeah, not bad.
Speaker 1: Three hour flight also fly.
Speaker 4: They have those.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, we're gonna take somebody to do a seance
and call the monkey Face kid.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I can hit up my ex, she's big
into that stuff, and we'll bring John Cena. Dude, he
loved that.
Speaker 3: I mean, he broke the record for most makeup wishes.
Speaker 1: What a dubious distinction.
Speaker 3: We've been talking about this for years. Other people have
talked about it, but I do remember on TV specifically
when I was in Nashville for the Robber O'Neil goof tournament. Yeah,
they just it was like breaking news. John Cena breaks
make a wish record.
Speaker 4: What a guy? What a guy?
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is the story of the Lemp family
and they're super crazy. Haunted mansion that still stands to
this day. You can stay in it to this day.
Why not eating it to this day?
Speaker 4: What are they going to do?
Speaker 3: Kill themselves?
Speaker 1: What again?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe kill you. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't have people hard to kill themselves.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: It does not become a suicide pilgrimage.
Speaker 3: Now, it's not like the suicide fires in Japan.
Speaker 1: It'd be really cool, like let's just haunt the fuck
out of this place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like logan like nineteen hundreds ghosts and then
some like twenty twenty ghosts. That'd be really cool, dynamic.
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with a ghost from like
two thousand and three. That sucks.
Speaker 4: We should have, no, they'd have like really cool advisors
flipped upside down.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: We should have like a destination suicide place in America. Yeah,
Grand Canyon talk yourself yourself off. Yeah, oh yeah, that
would be I mean the Golden gate Bridge too.
Speaker 1: People already do that though, and it's not haunted that
I'm aware of. Yeah, what do you guys learn today?
Speaker 3: It's the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: It it's got.
Speaker 4: To be something there, if anything, just like natives like
native spirits, windagoons and of Cora. Yeah, there's probably some
tupes there. I can see that, would you Shamans?
Speaker 3: I learned that the beer industry was too friendly, not
cut throat enough.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean eventually, you know, the market went out,
and I think the lamps just got complacent. Like you said,
they weren't grinders.
Speaker 3: They weren't.
Speaker 1: The bushes were. Though.
Speaker 3: If you do have that amount of money, you just
don't have the drive to continue the legacy.
Speaker 4: It didn't even try moonshining or nothing like that either.
Speaker 1: That's kind of strange. And by the way, that happened
to the Bushes eventually too.
Speaker 4: Just fucking bending the need of the government.
Speaker 1: Bullshit, but they didn't care.
Speaker 4: They don't tell me the Bushes did that too, all right,
bend the need to the government.
Speaker 1: No, they just got product. They just got so rich
they stopped carrying. I'll take the Yeah. Augie Bush, the
sixth or fifth, whoever's the guy. He's killed like two chicks.
Speaker 3: You can whoa but like in cars he drove or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, chap equittic style.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you said that name. I can't get
it on my mouth, my mushy mouth.
Speaker 1: Uh. What'd you learn today, Scott?
Speaker 4: I learned that Bush was dope, bought a stadium and
then made beer because of it, especially made his own brand.
Speaker 1: I love that Bush.
Speaker 4: That's like my favorite story of all time. That's hilarious.
He made a spike Bush is a spikee beer. Yeah,
that's so much cooler now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fucking sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then I learned that suicide is predatory just
runs in the.
Speaker 1: Family apparently, although that one chick might have been murdered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she probably.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna trust the man in that situation.
Speaker 1: Hard to disagree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never heard her side of the story.
Speaker 1: Never will. Who's today's hitler.
Speaker 4: Probably Billy Junior for having a monkey faced boy up
in the attic.
Speaker 3: It sounds like he really loved him.
Speaker 4: He got him toys. I guess he kept him alive.
Speaker 1: He didn't the ghost investigators after he was.
Speaker 4: Dead, so he did keep him alive for thirty whole years.
He like have a little figurines to play with.
Speaker 1: I'm you know what, I'm sure he had some assortment.
I bet he checked they dumped up there, he had a.
Speaker 4: Keg up there. He got like dead lift and ship.
Speaker 3: He went up and checked on him every quarter.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's plenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once at fortune because he.
Speaker 1: Was your hitler today. It's because it's not the guy
who trapped a retarded kid in his attic.
Speaker 3: Uh No, it's probably the woman of the night that
entrapped that man by having his baby.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Fair enough got so much. That's so much better hitler
than mine. It's her fault, It's not.
Speaker 3: It's always the woman's. Uh, I'm kidding by the way. No,
it was that guy's a monster.
Speaker 1: A monster we can meet.
Speaker 4: We can meet the monster and the monster's child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think that maybe they made up in the afterlife.
Speaker 4: There's holding hands, playing with you.
Speaker 3: I think it's like a Frankenstein situation. Legs, just Doctor
Frankenstein and his creation. Yeah, put bolts on his head.
Speaker 1: Well that is all I got for today. That is
the story of the Lamp family and the Lamp Mansion,
one of the most haunted places in the United States
of America, in a place that I really really think
we should do a show from.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we do have another episode coming on Wednesday
Patreon dot com. So last software history. Scott will also
be joining us for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tune in. We're gonna record it in like thirty seconds.
But yeah, you won't hear it.
Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna go on a quest for
a few days and then come back and record.
Speaker 3: That'll happen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some quest for a bit. Yeah,
we're gonna return in our same outfits.
Speaker 4: And I have to I have to wear my questing outfit. Yeah,
I can't change.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you'll just be back three days later. Because
you've been questing.
Speaker 3: If you ever go homeless, you have to just wear
that all the time.
Speaker 4: It'd probably make some pretty good money probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a streak.
Speaker 4: That guy is weird. Yeah, keep Austin weird.
Speaker 1: Here's a bit. It's like, Oh, he's depressing like the rest,
He's not as depressing as the rest of them. Yeah,
he depresses me, but I'm he's I'm smiling. I wear
roller blades. That'd be fucking cool. Toss some money out there.
Speaker 3: It's also a great way to get away from all
the other homeless that might try to stab you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, quicker spell of protection.
Speaker 3: You have skates, you fucking get out of there.
Speaker 4: Oh that too, skates? Yeah, fast like the Taliban.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my fair video.
Speaker 4: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: Well, that's all I got, boys.
Speaker 3: That's just where we're at with warfare.
Speaker 1: Yeah, drones and blades.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get doned.
Speaker 4: By a guy in roller blades.
Speaker 1: You will you.
Speaker 3: World War three?
Speaker 4: That'd be your luck, dude, I avoid the drunk roller blades.
Speaker 3: Three sixty, I get got by a dude in fruit.
Speaker 4: Boots exactly, dude three sixty throws grenade. Buye.
Speaker 1: Alright, boys, it's all I got. Yeah for damnagestant Scott Lopez,
I'm Rob Fox.
Speaker 3: You just got Saucer.